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$$$qbid$$$
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posted June 11, 2004 17:04     Click Here to See the Profile for $$$qbid$$$     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DOSEN'T LOOK THAT STRONG

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$$$qbid, I am one of those originals at .0001 and I will be out of QBID before this one!!

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posted June 11, 2004 17:20     Click Here to See the Profile for TradingWizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last Monday's news but as the stock is getting on top, so is the CMKX race car team!
Strong synergy between the two!!!

Mon, 7 Jun 2004, 03:53 PM
Jeff Arend Preview
Courtesy of Bill Walters

It was just 10 weeks ago that Arend formed the CMKXtreme Machine Funny Car team with the support of CMKM Diamonds founder and Chairman of the Board, Urban Casavant. From the moment Casavant made the decision to back Arend's racing efforts, the Canadian native has been working overtime to assemble the people and equipment needed to race successively in the most competitive field of fuel floppers the class has ever seen.

With his sponsorship secured, Arend sought out one of the most important pieces of his 300-mph puzzle, a competent crew chief. Arend's first choice was veteran Paul Smith, the same man who wrenched him to his only national event victory when the pair pulled off the upset of the season by winning the Funny Car title at the 1996 Keystone Nationals.

"I earned my fuel Funny Car license through Paul and he was the guy who gave me my first chance," said Arend. "I always said that if I ever hooked up with a major sponsor Paul would be the first person I called, and he was. He did a tremendous job in preparing the car to race in Las Vegas with just two weeks notice. I think we set a record for setting up a racing operation from scratch in just 14 days, but it's all been worth the hard work."

Since his return, Arend has qualified the CMKXtreme Machine Corvette for four races in five starts. He reset his career-best performance numbers with a run of 4.844-seconds at 318.77 mph in Chicago. While the CMKX team continues to jell and Smith gets a handle on the tune up with the new Goodyear tire, Arend is confident that winning rounds is just around the corner.

"Just to reach the point we're at right now, given the amount of time we had to build this team, has been tremendous. The CMKX team is headed in the right direction and soon we'll be giving these other team's nightmares."

And winning a national event will be the final ingredient in Jeff Arend's racing recipe.

Full story: http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=%7BC9234555-047F-454A-87A9-DE2B900C37E2%7D

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'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller

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TradingWizard
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posted June 11, 2004 17:29     Click Here to See the Profile for TradingWizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably know this one already - but for new folks this is good read!

From: streiter
3:53 PM EDT
Msg: #of 386
KPG and UCA are joint venture partners in the Carolyn project. From what I understand they were halted because of an "uneven playing field" until news is disseminated in both Canada and the US. Apparently, the latest press release by CMKX on the project only hit the American wires. It is significant because both stocks were up 100%+ at one point in the minimal trading that was permitted (all trades were subsequently cancelled - I've never seen that before).

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'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller

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bill1352
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posted June 11, 2004 17:58     Click Here to See the Profile for bill1352     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Consol Pine Channel Gold
Last 0.09 Open 0.09
Change +0.02 Previous Close 0.07
% Change +28.57% Bid 0.11
Volume NA Ask 0.13
Avg Daily Volume 41,400 Instit. Ownership NA
Day's High 0.09 52 Week High 0.12
Day's Low 0.09 52 Week Low 0.01


United Carina Res
Last 0.17 Open 0.17
Change +0.03 Previous Close 0.15
% Change +17.24% Bid 0.21
Volume NA Ask 0.28
Avg Daily Volume 13,100 Instit. Ownership NA
Day's High 0.17 52 Week High 0.34
Day's Low 0.17 52 Week Low 0.10

This is off the MSN stock search it doesn't have any news. this might be thursdays results too, not sure

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Bigrod40
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posted June 11, 2004 18:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Bigrod40     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So are we going to see the same kind of movement Monday morning on KPG and UCA???
It seems like a no-brainer to buy into both knowing that they are going to go up 50% to 90% in three or four hours.
Comments please.

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VNGNTN1
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posted June 11, 2004 18:52     Click Here to See the Profile for VNGNTN1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TW
DO NOT UNDERSTAND"uneven playing field"
Three companys with agreements whats uneven ?
VAN

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WWJD-thru-me
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Ali wrote: Breakin news from UCAD
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 29, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTC BB: UCAD - News) today announced that it has signed an Option Agreement with United Carina Resources Corp. (CDNX: UCA - News), Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. (CDNX: KPG - News), and CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX - News).
U.S. Canadian Minerals has the right to acquire an option to purchase a 25% interest in 27 mineral claims, which are comprised of approximately 22,447 acres. These claims are located in the province of Saskatchewan, Canada and were named the Smeaton Property by the optionor. The property is located in central Saskatchewan north of Fort a la Corne and situated within the boundaries of NTS 73-H-07. The grant of option shall be made in consideration of the total payment of $50,000USD. U.S. Canadian must spend or cause to be spent, an aggregate of $200,000 Cdn. on a program of exploration and development work on the property, on or before March 31, 2005 to complete the purchase. United Carina Resources Corp. shall retain 25% interest; Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. will also retain 25%, and CMKM Diamonds will retain the remainder 25% interest.

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Ali-I am trying to figure out the money on this one. Is it $50,000 for the option to purchase a 25% interest plus $200,000 in exploration and development work to complete the purchase for an undiscosed sum of money or does the $200,000 spent complete the purchase? I think it may be the first and we will get news if these purchase agreements will be exercised. This would immediately add to the value of our stock. I do not see how this is priced this low. If the three companies are giving this kind of money for the options to purchase with spending provisions added and with due dates-I wonder what the exercise of the option will cost? I am fairly sure it won't be $200,000. So this could be a billion or better right here. This would also explain the delay in giving the core sample results. I think they really are getting their ducks in a row. For anyone who is selling early do yourself a favor and keep at least 10% on the table. I think you will be very happy if there is a buy out offer or news that sends this to the moon. Make your own decisions of course. Mine is I am keeping all 18M shares I have now long and will buy some on Monday that I may play with. May just keep those too. DD-IMO-Debi
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The 5 C's of Diamonds: color, cut, clarity, carat and Casavant

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posted June 11, 2004 19:13     Click Here to See the Profile for WWJD-thru-me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to reply to my own post. As I am thinking about the money from the options if exercised-I never gave much credence to the dollar a share buyout thoughts but if UC has bought back most of the outstanding shares and has partners who have given him big bucks for the option on a portion of our mineral rights he may have cash, partners and diamonds. He could then off a buyback to take this private at any price he can afford to pay since he will not be doing the buying of many of the shares. Only the shorts will need to buy shares. I am now giving this a little credence. I don't know it as fact in any way. I am thinking out loud but I can see this as a possibility now where I never could before. This sure could make it easy as far as deciding what price to sell at. The buyout offer price. Heres hoping it is that good. IMO-DD-GLTA-Debi

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TradingWizard
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posted June 11, 2004 19:25     Click Here to See the Profile for TradingWizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"...they were halted because of an "uneven playing field" until news is disseminated in both Canada and the US. Apparently, the latest press release by CMKX on the project only hit the American wires."

Van, looks like they think that the news did not reached all the Canadians yet (which I doubt), so
1) Halting usually means news, bad or good, and raises greater awareness, investors start to notice and do their DD and buying etc. etc.
2) May be it is not fair that the news came out, while US cannot trade and Canada can.
Just an observations!

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posted June 11, 2004 19:43     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverSurfer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been watching the board for a while.
I never posted before here.
I own 1mil shares.
I am not too sure about CMKX legitimacy but I do think I will make some mnoey.
I don't think I will get rich on this one.
If anyone can convince me I will get rich I will buy more.
If not I will hold.
I only spent $100.00 I bought at .0001

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quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
"...they were halted because of an "uneven playing field" until news is disseminated in both Canada and the US. Apparently, the latest press release by CMKX on the project only hit the American wires."

Van, looks like they think that the news did not reached all the Canadians yet (which I doubt), so
1) Halting usually means news, bad or good, and raises greater awareness, investors start to notice and do their DD and buying etc. etc.
2) May be it is not fair that the news came out, while US cannot trade and Canada can.
Just an observations!


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You really need to convince yourself. If after reading all the post on this stock you don't convince yourself to stay or buy more, I don't think anything else anyone says is going to convince you.

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Originally posted by SilverSurfer:
I have been watching the board for a while.
I never posted before here.
I own 1mil shares.
I am not too sure about CMKX legitimacy but I do think I will make some mnoey.
I don't think I will get rich on this one.
If anyone can convince me I will get rich I will buy more.
If not I will hold.
I only spent $100.00 I bought at .0001

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originally posted by SilverSurfer:
quote:
I have been watching the board for a while.
I never posted before here.
I own 1mil shares.
I am not too sure about CMKX legitimacy but I do think I will make some mnoey.
I don't think I will get rich on this one.
If anyone can convince me I will get rich I will buy more.
If not I will hold.
I only spent $100.00 I bought at .0001

Virtually everyone here will try to convince you that you will get rich. Take that for what it's worth. My advice would be to hold. See how this all plays out. The trading was halted today on their two Canadian partners pending news and everyone here is jumping for joy when in actuality
it's a 50/50 shot if the news is good or bad. See what Mondays trading brings then decide if you want to buy more or not.

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posted June 11, 2004 21:35     Click Here to See the Profile for thinkmoney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from any board...comments???


Anybody have any input on this post? According to this post/the sec rules the maximum amount of legal shares CMKX could have out right now is 18 billion. What gets me is how could this have just been pointed out now if it were true, this fact would have spread like wildfire by all the experience traders (unless nobody on earth was familiar with sec rules a few months ago?).

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thinkmonkey wrote: from any board...comments???

Anybody have any input on this post? According to this post/the sec rules the maximum amount of legal shares CMKX could have out right now is 18 billion. What gets me is how could this have just been pointed out now if it were true, this fact would have spread like wildfire by all the experience traders (unless nobody on earth was familiar with sec rules a few months ago?).
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what post? I don't see what you are referring to but it sounds interesting. -Debi

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posted June 11, 2004 21:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Wallace#1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
I'm going to reply to my own post. As I am thinking about the money from the options if exercised-I never gave much credence to the dollar a share buyout thoughts but if UC has bought back most of the outstanding shares and has partners who have given him big bucks for the option on a portion of our mineral rights he may have cash, partners and diamonds. He could then off a buyback to take this private at any price he can afford to pay since he will not be doing the buying of many of the shares. Only the shorts will need to buy shares. I am now giving this a little credence. I don't know it as fact in any way. I am thinking out loud but I can see this as a possibility now where I never could before. This sure could make it easy as far as deciding what price to sell at. The buyout offer price. Heres hoping it is that good. IMO-DD-GLTA-Debi

Debi,

Here's how I read that option. $50,000 buys the option to purchase 25% (leaving 25% for each of the other 3 =75%). If UCAD does not spend a total of $200,000 on the site to search for diamonds, etc.), the option is automatically declared null and void. I am guessing that if UACD defaults on the $200,000, the 3 companies each keep a third of the $50K. What they (CMKX) seem to be doing, is letting UCAD spend the money and take the risk on that acreage and still retaining 25%. If 3 companys own the acreage, each will get 1/3 of the $50,000...hardly enough to buy back much stock.

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posted June 11, 2004 22:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
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Ali-I am trying to figure out the money on this one. Is it $50,000 for the option to purchase a 25% interest plus $200,000 in exploration and development work to complete the purchase for an undiscosed sum of money or does the $200,000 spent complete the purchase? I think it may be the first and we will get news if these purchase agreements will be exercised. This would immediately add to the value of our stock. I do not see how this is priced this low. If the three companies are giving this kind of money for the options to purchase with spending provisions added and with due dates-I wonder what the exercise of the option will cost? I am fairly sure it won't be $200,000. So this could be a billion or better right here. This would also explain the delay in giving the core sample results. I think they really are getting their ducks in a row. For anyone who is selling early do yourself a favor and keep at least 10% on the table. I think you will be very happy if there is a buy out offer or news that sends this to the moon. Make your own decisions of course. Mine is I am keeping all 18M shares I have now long and will buy some on Monday that I may play with. May just keep those too. DD-IMO-Debi

I agree with Wallace#1. It appears that they have the option to buy a 25% stake for $50,000.00. They then have to spend a minimum of $200,000.00 Canadian on exploration/development before April of 2005. If they do that, the sale is closed. If they fail to do that, they lose their claim to the 25% stake. I don't know what happens to the original $50,000.00.

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posted June 11, 2004 22:42     Click Here to See the Profile for highwaychild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depends on what kind of partnership you got with somebody,one hand washes another.I mean do these CEO's hang out togather,are they sippin' highballs togather,are they friends,and would a friend cover for another friend.WE don't know these people.

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posted June 11, 2004 23:24     Click Here to See the Profile for DeadSurf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't know if anyone has seen this before, but i copied it from another web site...

WHY DIAMONDS IN SASKATCHEWAN ?

- One of the largest known kimberlite clusters in the
world.
- 130 of the 2000 kimberlite pipes known worldwide are
macro-diamond bearing. 23 of these are located in the Fort
a la Corne district of Saskatchewan.
- 80% of Saskatchewans' kimberlite pipes are
diamondiferous.
- 50% contain diamonds over one millimeter in size.
- A high percentage of diamonds recovered are clear,
inclusion-free and exhibit good crystal form.
- Pipes said to have erupted under inland sea and
therefore have not been exposed to weathering or
glaciation.
- Pipes lie within 300 feet of surface.
- Area accessible by paved all-weather road, with water
and power readily available.
- Studies indicate cash operating costs of $10.50 per
tonne, including overburden removal.
- Saskatchewan government encourages mining in the
province.

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Upside
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posted June 11, 2004 23:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Straight from the CMKX website.

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highwaychild
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no, this is from the CMKX website... http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=1847739

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shadow
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Highway

Best one I've seen for a while.


Shad

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Everyone CHECK THIS OUT !!!!

MUST MUST CHECK THIS OUT!

Copied from a poster on RB. GOOD STUFF
http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/mms/diam/Kimberlite-EN/Kimberlite.swf

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Earth_Shaker
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READ THIS : by Retired Miner

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I'll start with my usual "You all know me"
I have never hyped or pumped this stock.
I have also given you all my opinion on the pps.
On many occasions I have used common sense and common knowledge to prove my points.
We are the epic centre of this explosion.
Yet,I'm reading we will open at 0012 or we will go to 0022 or different sets of numbers on Monday.
I know some of the veterans on this board may have seen a short squeeze.
Compound this with good news and you got yourself MT.ST.Helen's.
This PR in my mind was a tremor not the explosion.
If you think different you are wrong.(IMHO)
The price per share(pps) on Monday as we all know will gap up.
No doubt in anyone's mind about that.
That is an easy one.
When you all speak about the open and settling down of the pps again you are wrong.
Reason being like myself and many others we will not be selling.
WHY?
We still have lots of good Pr's to come and valution on Carolyn.
Aerial survey,audit report,o/s(outstandind shares),what board we are trying for.
Do you think that anyone here will sell shares?
I doubt it. If you say you will you dont have any or enough, so you want more from others.
With all this good news to come do you think that the pps will drop?
NOT
We have seen the last of .0010
As of tomorrow the price will be in the teens if not higher.
Nobody in his right mind will sell at these low levels.
I personally have my shares in limbo and I'm glad.
They are being transfered to another brokage house.
This they told me takes up to 2 weeks.
Which in other words puts my shares in limbo.
I cannot sell them for 2 weeks.

I told you all before that I had short,medium and long term goals set up.
I advice you all to do the same.
Just remember one thing a chance like this doesnt come by but once in a lifetime.
I told you all before that we are a TEAM.
I believe this 100%
Together people can accomplish lots more then apart.
UC and UNCLE MELVIN, like I have all told you before that I have believed in these guys from the start.
The game plan is short of brillant.
I for one would not like to see anymore PR's until Friday after the markets close.
WHY?
We are building a solid foundation on the way up.
This in my eyes will retain your value with a steady movement up.
Since you all compare qbid with this(I personally dont,or dont like too,but will to explain it to you all)lets take qbid then and see were we can go with it.
I've said this before the total networth of qbid will be the ad revunue-cost of running the station=profit
Thats it.
Here the big difference is so many unknowns.
First lets say the find of Carolyn is not huge but reasonable.
The low end of Debeers estimates of 40 billion.
WHY? You ask.
What if UC had said to his wife "Honey,the first hit I get with diamonds will be after you.You always believed in me"
Thus we have the Carolyn pipe.
We are drilling now elsewhere we have established a rough estimate for Carolyn already.
Now we got the aerial survey back and decided to drill in the next spot.
That looked the most promising.
This time we hit a motherlode 4 times the size of Carolyn.
The same sort of hit Debeers had just miles away from us.
Now we take the 40 and the 80 together.
Thats 120 billion dollars worth of assets.Ok Carolyn is split in 4 ways with our jv partners. But the other one is our's alone WOW.Thats 90 billion in assets.
Now,thats only say out of the 1.9 million acres even alarge number which its not.
But lets just use 200,000 acres.
That still leaves us with 1.7 million acres of unknown value.
Now after these finds you have to give the rest of the land some sort of intrinsic value.
IT could be in the trillions matching the shorts.LOL
That is one big difference already.
Take into account if the o/s shares is actually smaller then qbids.
Add that in.
Can you see where I'm going with this its an endless possiblities of pps value.
Where if qbid gets any competition there ad revunue will go down.
Thus causing their share value to go down.
THis is so much much bigger then qbid that I dont like to compare the two at all.
I do so for you all.
That being said.lets move on.
I believe the open on Monday will be 0015 to the 0024 range.
From that point on we will see a steady but sure rise up.
Trust me on this.
WHY?
There has been no mention yet of macro or micro diamonds or anything of this calibre.
Do you think that people will sell at this point I DOUBT IT VERY MUCH.
To many PR's left to keep us totally unbalanced.
If we are all mixed up imagine the hell the MM's are going through.
Specially,the ones that are shorted they in big dodo.
There is going to be such a run for shares in the morning on Monday that it will be funny.
I believe we will break all records for volume.
I believe the demand has already started for this stock.
With orders coming in today for Monday.
Thats why we dont need a PR.
So stop asking for one you wont get it.
Until THursday or Friday.
In my opinion that would be the best time.
The big rush will just be slowing down then bang up she goes again.
With all the newbies going boo hoo I did it again
I sold to soon.
Anyway,to all the newbies watch the bashers dont give into them.
They are here for one thing that is to get your shares cheap.
I know at least 10 people who read this will be part of the crowd that sold on Thursday.
Wait until you see the close on Monday and what you could have had.
I personally will not sell a share until it gets into the pennies if not more when I have them back.
Just too much good news left and possibilities to move this puppy up.
If you guys need some cash just wait a couple of days for next PR then sell only what you need I call this the feel good zone.
You dont want to miss a super PR.
What if you miss one that announces we have found another zone even larger then Carolyn.
What will be the PPS then.
I personally know of some people who are holding 100's of millions of shares which they wont be selling until it hits 50 cents.
Thats how sure some people are of this stock.
Your choice where to sell or buy more.
Listen to yourself only.
Not even this retiredminer if you did your DD on this puppy you, yourself will know when.
Sure reward yourself with a small sale but in my opinion the time is not right to sell yet.
Its a time to hold and wait.
This in itself increases your PPS.
Supply and demand that simple.
I forgot to mention one thing if any bashers answer this.
My wife has 100 million shares available for us to sell.
I locked up mine not her's.
So,just incase your thinking that he locked up his shares
and cant sell.
Yes,I can.
Those are her shares and I have told her she can sell when she wants.
Its her first time in the market.
Do you know that her first sell will be at 10 cents for 100,000 shares only.
If we vets think so highly of this one you know where this puppy is going.
Anyway,do what you want.
This only advice on my part.
IMHO RM
These are my views and should be viewed as such
I BELIEVE IN UC AND UNCLE MELVIN from the start nothing will change my mind!!!!!!!!

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I was excited when I heard about the race car.

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ali
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from Netwrthtx on RB!!!! VERY GOOD

The Definative CMKX:

In the year 2000, CMKI/CMKM came into existance as a software gaming company. The high for the price stock was .10 and there are still people today who have held onto their stock for this opportunity that is before us today. So, if you have bought under .10 consider yourself fortunate! Also, these folks have waited 4 years, so relax you have at most only held it for a few months.

Breakdown: 2000

2000 high .10 low .01
with a spike in the summer to .05/.06

This company at the time was fully reporting. We all know what happened to the stock market in the year 2000. It went Bust and hasn't fully recovered yet. I was a stockbroker at the time and the entire screen was RED not one company on any board was making any gains. Many companies went out of bussiness. CMKX as known today DID NOT! This is a Very Important Fact as to the ability of current Management!!!!!!! And, was one of the main reasons I bought this stock. Where others had failed UC just kept on going.
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Breakdown: 2001

2001 high .02 low .0001/.0002
ALL markets dropped and stayed at their very low volumelowest levels throughout 2001

I don't know much about the company at this time period.
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Breakdown: 2002

2002 high .02/.03 low ,0001/.0002
Flatlined with a hugh spike in the 4th Qtr
still low volume bringing it up to .02/.03

2002 Press Releases:
Nov/02 - Casavant Mining merges with Cyber Mark International

Historical facts: I don't have. Someone who has been in this longer than me will have to fill you in.

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Breakdown: 2003

2003 high .01 low .0001/.0002
Spike gone with 2 little blips that happened
volume gaining momentum in the 3rd and 4th qtrs


2003 Press Releases:
Jan/03 - Casavant Mining obtains trading symbol CMKM on OTCBB
Feb/03 - CMKM files "Definitive Information Statement" Form 14C with SEC
Apr/03 - CMKM Announces Initial Report on Exploration Project at Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan.
Jul/03 - CMKM files "Certification and Notice of Termination of Registration" Form 15-12G with SEC. CMKM becomes a non-reporting company.
Aug/03 - CMKM announces 2 for 1 foward stock split.
Aug/03 - CMKM announces share dividend payout for CMI.
Aug/03 - CMKM announces three million dollar exploration and drilliing program with Durama Enterprises Ltd.
Sept/03 - CMKM launches corporate website http://www.casavantmining.com/
Sept/03 - CMKM announces six billion shares are being retired back to treasury
Nov/03 - CMKM announces 900,000 dollar joint venture funding contracts with 3 public companies. The three companies contracts that were consummated are: Consolidated Pine Channel Gold (CDNX-KPG-V), Shane Resources (CDNX-SEI-V), and United Carina Resources (CDNX-UCA-V). The agreement is that these companies now have the right to acquire an undivided 10% interest each in 82 prospective claims held by CMKM in consideration for 900,000 dollars in funding.
Nov/03 - CMKM announces over twenty billion shares have been retired back to treasury to date.
Dec/03 - CMKM announced the company is evaluating two offers from public companies for a partial buyout of selected mining claims.
Dec/03 - CMKM announced CIM spin-out to go public is being evaluated with MRDR, a public shell company listed on the Pink Sheets. Anticipated completion date is Jan. 15/04.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces that targets have been selected to commence drilling on Green Lake and Forte a la Corne.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces 16.5 billion shares officially retired to treasury.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces that spin-out company, Casavant Mining Int. will go public.

As you can see after almost 3 years of hard work CMKM/CMKX is begining to move with the uprise in the economy and put into action what would have taken place years ago if the market hadn't fallen in 2000. People had recovered the economic blight and were now investing again into the market which provided UC with the required funds to take action! And action he took! For a new company to do the things he has done in this short period is amazing. But then again, he has had almost 3 years to draw out the game plans so he knew exactly what he was going to do.

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Breakdown: 2004

2004 high .01 low .0001
Volume dramaticly increases!

2004 Press Releases:
Jan/04 - CMKM announces purchase of drill rig, accessories, and extra equipment for drilling. Company Signs One Year Contract With Experienced Drill Foreman to Oversee Drill Operation Program - Commits to Drilling Numerous Holes in Search Of Kimberlite Pipes in the Forte a la Corne Area and Green Lake Area
Jan/04 - CMKM announces MRDR share exchange and spin out of CIM subsidiary has been approved. Date of record will be January 30, 2004.
Jan/04 - CMKM announced that the Green Lake drill target is now suitable for drilling.

Feb/04 - U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. & CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces Joint Venture
Feb/04 - CMKM is featured in a newspaper article in the Prince Albert Herald.
Feb/04 - CMKM announces the company has obtained funding for US $1.8 million with a further pledge for US 3.2 million.
Feb/04 - CMKM announces drilling program to commence.

Mar/04 - CMKX Diamonds, Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' at 900+ Feet and Still in Kimberlite
Mar/04 - CMKX Diamonds, Inc. Announces Kimberlite Ore Discovery
Mar/04 - CMKX Diamonds, Inc. Announces Drilling Video Footage Now Available on the Company Web Site
Mar/04 - CMKX Diamonds, Inc. Announces Joint Venture Option Agreement With United Carina Resources Corp. and Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp.
Mar/04 - CMKX Diamonds, Inc. Announces Progress on Drilling and Exploration Program
Mar/04 - CMKX Diamonds, Inc. Announces That Drilling Has Commenced Two Days Ahead of Schedule in the Fort a la Corne Area
Mar/04 - CMKX Diamonds, Inc. Announces Drilling Program to Commence in the Fort a la Corne Area on Wednesday, March 17, 2004
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds Inc., Formerly Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Announces New Symbol: CMKX
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Assignment of New CUSIP Number
3:34pm 03/30/04 - BusinessWire CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' at 900+ Feet and Still in Kimberlite 2:27pm 03/29/04 - BusinessWire CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' Update

Apr 15 2004 - CMKX Diamonds, Inc. Drilling up-date: Carolyn pipe core samples sent away for analysis: ETA on results 3 - 6 weeks
Apr/04 - U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Intersection of Kimberlitic Rock
6:00am 04/06/04 - BusinessWire Intersection of Kimberlitic Rock Announced by U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. 4:30pm 04/05/04 - BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Intersection of Kimberlitic Rock
9:30am 05/27/04 - BusinessWire CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Update on Carolyn Pipe and Targets Selected for Drilling on Green Lake
6:26pm 06/10/04 - BusinessWire CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' Lab Results Confirm Diamondiferous Kimberlite 10:32am 06/07/04 - M2 Financial Relations Inc: Desert Son Media Corp., parent company of Traders Nation completes installation of ISDN and satellite broadcasting equipment 11:31pm 06/04/04 - BusinessWire CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces It Has Retained D. Roger Glenn, Partner at Edwards & Angell, LLP as Securities Counsel 10:24am 06/04/04 - BusinessWire CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces It is Retaining a Large New York Law Firm to Represent Its Interests 9:30am 06/03/04 - BusinessWire CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces the Cancellation of the MRDR Transaction, Internal Audit and Move to New Transfer Agent

As you can see now the company is moving with full force to complete the required tasks to get from the getting started phase to the fully operational stage. If you have EVER had a bussiness you would have to be amazed at the speed at which UC is getting things done! UC has PROVEN his ability to overcome any and all problems! This is why I initially invested in this stock and as the year goes by I am convinced that I made the right choice and like UC I WILL OVERCOME ANY PROBLEMS others post about this stock.
There is alot more to this story as to why there are people holding when they bought at .05 a long time ago but for now I believe that I have without a doubt provided you with ample reason as to why you should HOLD this stock. Thank you for your patience. Don


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First, please explain why..
"I am not too sure about CMKX legitimacy"

quote:
Originally posted by SilverSurfer:
I have been watching the board for a while.
I never posted before here.
I own 1mil shares.
I am not too sure about CMKX legitimacy but I do think I will make some mnoey.
I don't think I will get rich on this one.
If anyone can convince me I will get rich I will buy more.
If not I will hold.
I only spent $100.00 I bought at .0001

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what if while drilling oil is found?

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it's just a thought
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CMKX 61 million soldiers strong

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IN SUB-PENNY WE TRUST

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quote:
Originally posted by fjean:
what if while drilling oil is found?

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it's just a thought
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CMKX 61 million soldiers strong


LOL.. then at least the price per gallon should go down!

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Earth_Shaker:
I BELIEVE THE MINER!
(you are GOOD)

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Then they should give USCI a call...

quote:
Originally posted by fjean:
what if while drilling oil is found?

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Hay what's up here look for another PR next week about start drilling whan ,how much that gonna cost and staff like that I wonder did CMKX have enough casch for drilling?? Or wil have to lift up PPs and sell same schares to create some casch for drilling. Another canadien company who also find the dimond in Vancouver company AAC I thing yestr. was on TV canadien chanel buss.report the CEO guy ses they gonna need ata least 17mil in cash just to start the drilling. Nice news after bell not so juicy but this news created some panic allover the boards CMKX is notice now and monday madnes will be huge c'ant wait all the best.........out

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ALI
Good post I am one of those original CMKI, Though I only bought 100k when CMKI went to CMKM I loaded up with 12m, then sold off to 1.5m free, Just couldn't stop my self and went back for another 4m@.0007.
One thing you may know that I never figured out . Was UC involved with CMKI or did he buy a shell ?
VAN

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45 1/2 hours...

Hey, anybody wish they could travel into the future to see what a stock will do, then return to the present and buy accordingly? Well, isn't that what just happened yesterday? In a matter of minutes, UCA went from .17 to .29, and KPG went from .09 to .15. Now, the TSX erased that whole day like it didn't happen, but it did.

So if everyone is open for trading on Monday, shouldn't we expect the same thing? One problem might be instead of shooting to those highs, they all may just gap up to there, right? Granted, I can't trade on the CSX, but shouldn't we expect a similiar pop from CMKX?

One thing that makes me just a bit nervous, is the fact that after KPG rocketed to .15, it immediately dove to .11. Any theories on that?

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quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
45 1/2 hours...

Hey, anybody wish they could travel into the future to see what a stock will do, then return to the present and buy accordingly? Well, isn't that what just happened yesterday? In a matter of minutes, UCA went from .17 to .29, and KPG went from .09 to .15. Now, the TSX erased that whole day like it didn't happen, but it did.

So if everyone is open for trading on Monday, shouldn't we expect the same thing? One problem might be instead of shooting to those highs, they all may just gap up to there, right? Granted, I can't trade on the CSX, but shouldn't we expect a similiar pop from CMKX?

One thing that makes me just a bit nervous, is the fact that after KPG rocketed to .15, it immediately dove to .11. Any theories on that?


Winsum, my theory on that is profit takers... knowing that it would pop-n-drop... and I'm hoping for the same thing on Monday... although, now that the cat's outta the bag on reactions, it may play out differently...

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ALL
Spent a lot of time reading on this today.
WHAT IF:
Suppose drilling actually occurred 7/2003!
Suppose following split & spin off reflected that value!
Suppose legal firm hired 9/2003!
Sure it was confirmed that attorney was on board, but no one asked for date of retainer.
Likewise with PR it could be released anytime.
ANY THOUGHTS?
VAN

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Awesome DD today, guys!

It's great to be a part of this

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Van,
Thats what I am thinkg also, not exactly the time line but I do think these are preplanned PRs. Why would Melvin say Mt.Helen or whatever weeks ago? and Melvin probably not even knows half of the whole story.

GLTA.

quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
ALL
Spent a lot of time reading on this today.
WHAT IF:
Suppose drilling actually occurred 7/2003!
Suppose following split & spin off reflected that value!
Suppose legal firm hired 9/2003!
Sure it was confirmed that attorney was on board, but no one asked for date of retainer.
Likewise with PR it could be released anytime.
ANY THOUGHTS?
VAN

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I am a new member I got into stock market in March first three stocks bought where bust. I found bulletion bd and had little money left bought 2455000 of Cmkx. Really new to this how long do you think it will take to get to the teens or higher. When do you think I should sell. Reading all the posting makes me very nervous and excited about this stock. THank you all for your post I read them daily. Very helpful info. Will I am trying to learn and figure what to do next. Starting to understand alittle by reading post.

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this link is dead

quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Everyone CHECK THIS OUT !!!!

MUST MUST CHECK THIS OUT!

Copied from a poster on RB. GOOD STUFF
http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/mms/diam/Kimberlite-EN/Kimberlite.swf


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interesting read on player hater's,I'm on the lookout. http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=19501

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Works fine for me. It's incredibly informative! It's a Flash file that takes about a minute, and shows you how diamonds ended up where they are in the earth's crust. Fantastic find, earthshaker! Definitely a must-see.
http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/mms/diam/Kimberlite-EN/Kimberlite.swf

quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:

this link is dead


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They are here for a reason and this week will be the start of the war that the naked shorts can't win. They have had chances to cover but they just screwed around. CMKX huge lease position with product, Spitzer turning up the heat on regulations and practices, DateLine ready to do an expose, Glenn looking to set legal precedent using CMKX as his example via strong Washington DC ties and a little known fact that naked shorting is ILLEGAL, may just bust these folks that have raped the investor.
ROUND ONE THIS WEEK

Found This on another board sounds interesting

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Also found this...little long but even more interesting

WHY I THINK WE'LL MERGE.

More theorizing:

I don't know that we'll merge with all of our partners. That depends on the potential in our fully-owned properties versus the potential in our JV properties. Of course, all that can still be negotiated in terms of what percentage of shares the partners would end up with (i.e., fewer shares for partners the more our fully-owned properties are worth). But I do believe we'll merge with at least one company and that is UCAD. Why? Simple. I believe that merging into UCAD will be the fastest, simplest way to become an otc reporting company again. If they did NOT take this approach, then CMKX would have to file its audits, a 10k, and a warehouse load of attachments probably to apply to become an otc stock. This process is lengthy because the SEC must review all the documents and then comes the "comments" phase. For those unfamiliar, this can be a brutal process where the SEC sends back its thoughts on all the documentation, noting deficiencies and areas that require further or different documentation to satisfy them. And then, you resubmit everything for MORE comments. This process goes back and forth until the SEC is satisfied with all your documentation. The process can take 3-12 months, depending on how good your attorney is and how complicated the company's background is.

So, compare THAT option to the option of UCAD "acquiring" CMKX in a share exchange. I believe that this could be done expeditiously and with a LOT less SEC entanglement. Moreover, depending on certain asset valuations (awaiting PR on that), share structure (awaiting PR on that) and ultimate market price, if the new entity formed can meet the listing requirements of the Nasdaq or AMEX, this could also be the fastest way onto one of the exchanges. Please note the following language from the press releases regarding Edwards Angell:

"to begin the process of bringing the company into full compliance in order to be fully reporting." link: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040604/45246_1.html

"Edwards & Angell has been retained to represent the Company in its desire to become fully reporting once again." link: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040604/45561_1.html


Nowhere in either release does it state that CMKX has hired Roger Glenn or Edwards Angell to "apply for an otc bulletin board listing." They both merely state that the firm was hired to help them become "fully reporting". This can be accomplished through UCAD acquiring them. Ultimately, moving to AMEX or Nasdaq still fit with the objective of becoming "fully reporting". I know these numbers are speculation but IF the share count is 10 billion and the estimated content value of our property(ies) is $40 billion, I don't see why we would not make the move to attain a listing on AMEX or Nasdaq through being acquired by UCAD (a friendly merger) and applying for listing. Oh, and by the way, if all of that was arranged, I can envision a private placement once listed for say, oh, maybe an extra $500million+ in funding to begin drilling/further exploration. Know any highly esteemed attorneys that specialize in large equity transactions with private parties? Roger that? Oh by the way, if the private placement occurred BEFORE applying for a listing, that could knock out the minimum net asset requirements for nasdaq or amex listing quite comfortably.

There's been much speculation on how we fit with UCAD. There are some obvious links between the two companies. From a TIMING perspective, the merger also makes more sense to me as the quickest path to becoming fully reporting and obtaining a listing on a higher exchange as well. As I stated from the outset, I do not believe Roger and Edwards Angell are here to help a company simply file with the SEC and become an otc company. I think there is much, much, much more involved.

BIG note of caution: I am not a securities attorney. The above is all PURE SPECULATION on my part. The fact that I am an attorney does not mean I have ANY idea what Roger actually has planned for CMKX in terms of corporate structuring or financing. These are just personal musings that I am sharing but we must wait for the PRs from the company to see if anything I've guessed at is correct. In other words, this is not a legal opinion and is purely personal speculation. Please do your own due diligence. I could keep going on and on with this disclaimer but you get the drift. IT'S ALL GUESSWORK AT THIS POINT.

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bill when is the dateline nbc showing and is it about naked short selling??

i emailed them awhile back asking for a look into the practice... there was no reply

it could only help to bring light on something they don't want the spotlight on...

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Bill
There has been posts on this on previous pages, I believe it is not illegal yet.
VAN

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This the best I could find on that subject http://www.ioreport.com/archive/listserv/20030518-1.html ...kind of old.And this... http://www.investigatethesec.com/index1.html

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quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:

this link is dead


you need to have shockwave/flash installed to view it... but the link works fine for me

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BRACE YOURSELF.

I am predicting that some very serious bashers with relentless intensity will emerge this weekend. I believe there will be a very coordinated effort to plant maximum doubt in folks' minds this weekend prior to what will inevitably be a news-rich week. Their goal is to make you question all you believe to the point that you begin resetting your price targets to a much safer level or decide to cash out a high percentage at a lower price than you originally thought. These guys are good. Watch. They will be waving Bre-X around like a war cry and they will lie, deceive, make false claims and try to exhaust you to the point of making you say "This isn't worth it. I'm cashing out. Too much uncertainty."

I have no advice other than to trust your instincts. They will scream Bre-X, Enron and Worldcom, but isn't it interesting that they will wave that flag around when all those were NOT pink sheets but major world players? My guiding light through all this is that someone recognized that this process will be so powerful and severe that it needs one of the nation's finest attorneys to manage the process. Unless any basher shows me a smoking gun somewhere I refuse to alter my beliefs that this law firm was brought in to transition CMKX from a junior miner to a very large player (dare I say one of the largest).

Be VERY wary of turncoats. People that have been part of the "long" crowd all this time that suddenly do an about face. Much like splinter cells among terrorists, this is a common basher ploy. Slide in and curry favor as a "long" and when you have peoples' trust, begin swaying them to the opposite side because of some "concerns" they suddenly have. Seen it. Don't buy into it.

Just prepping everyone like a good lawyer should. LOL Bashers will arrive by the truckload. This money won't come easy. Psychological warfare can be very powerful and the market makers/shorters know that the market is ultimately driven by greed and fear! Be ready. Be strong. Everybody that has ever won a war was tested severely and suffered. And most here that haven't played the pennies before will be caught totally offguard. That is why I'm posting this. Not to scare anyone. But to inform them of what I truly believe will emerge. There's a reason it's mostly big boys and not retail investors that make money in the market. But with enough resolve, this is an opportunity to turn the tables.

Naturally all of this hinges on impressive sampling details and an acceptable outstanding share count. But before we ever get that, we may get an all-out assault by bashers to make us question it all. Good luck to everyone. I hope to see everyone at the finish line though I will understand those that do not have the fortitude to gut this out. I have been shaken out before and the victim of my own overwhelming emotions of fear. Not this time. Provided Urban and Roger deliver everything properly and it is impressive, this time I ride into the sunset smiling.

Z

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