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asuming and agreeing ..................... it will never end.
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It's the same Investor Relations guy...

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Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
That sounds familiar... "I will update all shareholders as information becomes available."

"The audit is currently going through its certification process and will be available for viewing within the coming weeks."

blah, blah, blah.

Show me the money! [Big Grin]

GB
It's true we've heard this all before ... but from a different "mouth". So, let's give the new guy a chance to prove himself. [Smile]



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Hello all my QBID friends

I’ve generally been lurking and gathering what information I can. These past two weeks have obviously been exciting and unexpected. At this time I would like to give my 2 shares worth of what I see from my perspective with another 2 shares worth of my logic and reason for what I’ve gleaned.

I would like to start with a heartfelt welcome to Mr. Fan. I know little about the man, but of what I do know I find impressive. A CEO at this level of business cannot micromanage his assets. A successful CEO, at this level, has learned that success is a shared adventure with the best people he can find and positioned in their respective fields of expertise and responsibility. This is the measure of a successful CEO. When many CEO’s are asked what it is that made them a success, the usual reply is having very talented people working for them. A good CEO manages these people while delegating authority to them.

I talked to Richard Brown and he stated that both he and Carol Hinnant were retained and given expanded roles and responsibilities, but to what extent I don’t know. Richard and I have had many conversations over the past year where we occasionally touched upon what was needed to take QTN to the next level. Richard and I agreed on most points. When Mr. Fan came aboard, it was Mr. Fan who elucidated these points to Richard and, apparently, to others during the many recent “round table” discussions. Mr. Fan’s management style is a vast improvement from Frank’s. The open discussion of problems with the various department heads during these round tables allows the free flow of creativity to be expressed. This process yields enhanced decision making and cross-departmental awareness. Although one can be very impressed with this, these thought processes are what I would expect from someone of Mr. Fan’s caliber.

Now a cautious word, when someone enters under similar circumstances that Mr. Fan has, there is generally a lot of initial positive rhetoric. What is very important is the follow through, which I’m looking forward to with great anticipation. Success breeds success because of the person’s fundamentals. I would tend to think that there is a high probability that Mr. Fans’ business successes would continue with QTN. Mr. Fan does not have a media or entertainment background. Additionally, I don’t know what his knowledge is of the LGBT communities.

With the right person, the above “shortcomings” could, in reality, be blessings. This situation would oblige Mr. Fan to hire extremely talented people to run this enterprise. Mr. Fan must have excellent people in position to run his other businesses while he is in the U. S. dealing with all his issues concerning Q. Conversely, He must be in a position to conduct his other business without much thought of Q directly.

Mr. Fan would not have invested this much time, energy and resources into a failing or marginal venture. I find it quite obvious that Mr. Fan considers QTN to have enormous potential. I would think that he would perceive that a properly managed company that is centered in the LGBT media market, with no direct competition (I don’t consider Here! and Logo direct competitors), to be a very lucrative endeavor.

Furthermore, I believe Mr. Fan would have done his homework with respect to TMM, QTN, the LGBT community, the market (some $650 Billion in disposable income) and where he would find the specialized talent to run QTN. Lets not forget that he started the QTNAsia.com web site on the 5th of December in 2005. He must have been associated with Q for a time prior to that. Scott Withers, among others, went to an international exposition in Cannes, France at the end of last October. Upon his return a PR came out stating that many contacts were made and that there was considerable interest from Asia. Mr. Fan, were you there? Fusing this information with his desire to market many self produced and middleman products to the LGBT communities, one can view his picture for success.

QTN’s image has been severally tarnished. The investment and media communities, along with labor, have backed away from QBID/QTN. Tackling these, and other issues, are among the many challenges facing Mr. Fan. A change of guard, paying employees and other obligations, while bringing in a fresh approach, will go a long way toward rapprochement. If people and shareholders are treated right, their memories become short and their vision long. The LGBT communities are known for strong support of their own. I would think that Mr. Fan is aware of this and would utilize this strength to its fullest.

I believe that we will see many new faces and additional directions in the days and weeks ahead. The core business portion of any company should always be protected and enhanced. The unique placement of Q breeds many additional business ventures. The possibilities are profound. The soup for success consists of management, creativity, finances and desire. It seems that Mr. Fan brings all these to Q.

Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

There has been a great discussion on the various QBID boards with regards to a reverse split. The results of any actions we take in life are dependent upon the character and desires of the person making them. One can glean the intent and future results by equating what the person has done and the context for the new decision. To me, it is obvious that Mr. Fan is a successful businessman who knows how to build a company. He is a smart man who knows that by rallying support from a very devoted and dedicated demographic, he would be much further ahead than if he was to scam it. Mr. Fans desire to build brand loyalty would preclude, IMO, the possible misuse of a reverse split. We all have been “burned” by Frank over the past year and if Mr. Fan misuses a reverse split, then all of the pain and ill will that Frank generated would transfer to him. He would brand himself as just another Frank.

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Well thought out and articulate Jenn. Thanks. BTW, warm (85 degrees) and sunny at the pool today.
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Wow! you've got some great points and some positive "blatant speculation".

The only quesiton I have to the above is what kind of expanded role is Richard having? I thought he worked for another company and just handled the investor relations side of things. Just looking for clarification, is he becoming part of TMM/QTN?


Thanks again for the post JenniferCD10

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For you longs, you all know that I have been very patient and stayed positive while many of my friends have sold and either moved on or stayed to bash. As for me, I am very tired of all the broken promises.

Richard says that Mr. Fan has a plan, well "Richard" it's time for Mr. Fan to bring his plan to the shareholders. Each day that Mr, Fan does not reveal his plan is just like another day with Frank at the helm.

Soon the chit will hit the "fan" but the only problem is: "When the chit hits the fan there is nothing to guarantee that it will be distributed evenly" [Big Grin]

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Right on Doc, i'd like to hear from him too.

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
For you longs, you all know that I have been very patient and stayed positive while many of my friends have sold and either moved on or stayed to bash. As for me, I am very tired of all the broken promises.

Richard says that Mr. Fan has a plan, well "Richard" it's time for Mr. Fan to bring his plan to the shareholders. Each day that Mr, Fan does not reveal his plan is just like another day with Frank at the helm.

Soon the chit will hit the "fan" but the only problem is: "When the chit hits the fan there is nothing to guarantee that it will be distributed evenly" [Big Grin]


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Good one Doc!!

I agree!!

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we will hear from him in time.


he is still going through all the unknowns that he has to deal with.

I'm sure he is going through the "oh shiit what have i got my self into" stage. anyone that has bought thier first fixer upper house knows what i mean.

he is going through bills, and wages and all the stuff that was hid from him, and figuring how he is going to go about fixing this all.

its hard for him to come out and tell us everything is going to be OK until he has a full handle on what it is he needs to do to make it OK.

he knows that we have been here a long time, he knows that we have been misled, he knows that we are not going to accepting of everything that he says, so he will want to make sure he know for sure what he has to do and if it is possible to make this thing work, before he starts talking to us.

if he is half the businessman that Jenn described above, he is going to want to make sure that he has something solid that he can lay out for us. He needs to gain the confidence of the investors, the employees, the customers, and the carriers, and i dont expect him to have all the answers available to us hours after taking control.

he needs the time to lay out the plans, find out who is working with him, and who is working against him, what has to tackled first and what can be put on the back burners.


he is restructuring the company from the ground up, and you dont come up with that plan with only one or 2 meetings.

he may need to hire consultants, and analysts and take a month before everything is laid out.

for now i am just happy to know that we are not facing a bankruptcy right away.

i will let them take the time they need to get this strategy in place. Anything is going to be better then the way Frank ran the circus.

i would suspect that we will hear something from Fan this coming week, but it will not be the informative pr that everyone is hoping for.

it will be more of a Hi my name in Lloyd, i have assembled a task force to attack these concerns, our plan is to make this the biggest and the best, we will inform you as thing progress. we are here working for you. thanks for your patience and support

or something to that effect.

we will not see immediate turn around on this. so anyone looking for that should stop expecting that as you will be greatly disappointed.

this is not going to happen over night.

Mr Fan has a huge task ahead of him. Damage control is harder then building from scratch.

Thanks for your informative view on this Jenn, i enjoyed your post.

we will be here for a while guys, so grab a drink and get comfy

Rod

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Mr. Fan should know of all of the pitfalls. I hope he and his people can get this mess straightened out very quickly.

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Awesome post Jenn!!

I'm glad to see you come out from lurking!!

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did anyone that has spoke with Richard ask if Frank has any interest in this still?

is he completely out of the picture?

I would feel better if he is not in the office anymore, i dont care if he still holds shares, i just want him completely out of the picture as far as the operations of the company go.

Rod

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agree

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You should get Richard's job.

quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends

I’ve generally been lurking and gathering what information I can. These past two weeks have obviously been exciting and unexpected. At this time I would like to give my 2 shares worth of what I see from my perspective with another 2 shares worth of my logic and reason for what I’ve gleaned.

I would like to start with a heartfelt welcome to Mr. Fan. I know little about the man, but of what I do know I find impressive. A CEO at this level of business cannot micromanage his assets. A successful CEO, at this level, has learned that success is a shared adventure with the best people he can find and positioned in their respective fields of expertise and responsibility. This is the measure of a successful CEO. When many CEO’s are asked what it is that made them a success, the usual reply is having very talented people working for them. A good CEO manages these people while delegating authority to them.

I talked to Richard Brown and he stated that both he and Carol Hinnant were retained and given expanded roles and responsibilities, but to what extent I don’t know. Richard and I have had many conversations over the past year where we occasionally touched upon what was needed to take QTN to the next level. Richard and I agreed on most points. When Mr. Fan came aboard, it was Mr. Fan who elucidated these points to Richard and, apparently, to others during the many recent “round table” discussions. Mr. Fan’s management style is a vast improvement from Frank’s. The open discussion of problems with the various department heads during these round tables allows the free flow of creativity to be expressed. This process yields enhanced decision making and cross-departmental awareness. Although one can be very impressed with this, these thought processes are what I would expect from someone of Mr. Fan’s caliber.

Now a cautious word, when someone enters under similar circumstances that Mr. Fan has, there is generally a lot of initial positive rhetoric. What is very important is the follow through, which I’m looking forward to with great anticipation. Success breeds success because of the person’s fundamentals. I would tend to think that there is a high probability that Mr. Fans’ business successes would continue with QTN. Mr. Fan does not have a media or entertainment background. Additionally, I don’t know what his knowledge is of the LGBT communities.

With the right person, the above “shortcomings” could, in reality, be blessings. This situation would oblige Mr. Fan to hire extremely talented people to run this enterprise. Mr. Fan must have excellent people in position to run his other businesses while he is in the U. S. dealing with all his issues concerning Q. Conversely, He must be in a position to conduct his other business without much thought of Q directly.

Mr. Fan would not have invested this much time, energy and resources into a failing or marginal venture. I find it quite obvious that Mr. Fan considers QTN to have enormous potential. I would think that he would perceive that a properly managed company that is centered in the LGBT media market, with no direct competition (I don’t consider Here! and Logo direct competitors), to be a very lucrative endeavor.

Furthermore, I believe Mr. Fan would have done his homework with respect to TMM, QTN, the LGBT community, the market (some $650 Billion in disposable income) and where he would find the specialized talent to run QTN. Lets not forget that he started the QTNAsia.com web site on the 5th of December in 2005. He must have been associated with Q for a time prior to that. Scott Withers, among others, went to an international exposition in Cannes, France at the end of last October. Upon his return a PR came out stating that many contacts were made and that there was considerable interest from Asia. Mr. Fan, were you there? Fusing this information with his desire to market many self produced and middleman products to the LGBT communities, one can view his picture for success.

QTN’s image has been severally tarnished. The investment and media communities, along with labor, have backed away from QBID/QTN. Tackling these, and other issues, are among the many challenges facing Mr. Fan. A change of guard, paying employees and other obligations, while bringing in a fresh approach, will go a long way toward rapprochement. If people and shareholders are treated right, their memories become short and their vision long. The LGBT communities are known for strong support of their own. I would think that Mr. Fan is aware of this and would utilize this strength to its fullest.

I believe that we will see many new faces and additional directions in the days and weeks ahead. The core business portion of any company should always be protected and enhanced. The unique placement of Q breeds many additional business ventures. The possibilities are profound. The soup for success consists of management, creativity, finances and desire. It seems that Mr. Fan brings all these to Q.

Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.

There has been a great discussion on the various QBID boards with regards to a reverse split. The results of any actions we take in life are dependent upon the character and desires of the person making them. One can glean the intent and future results by equating what the person has done and the context for the new decision. To me, it is obvious that Mr. Fan is a successful businessman who knows how to build a company. He is a smart man who knows that by rallying support from a very devoted and dedicated demographic, he would be much further ahead than if he was to scam it. Mr. Fans desire to build brand loyalty would preclude, IMO, the possible misuse of a reverse split. We all have been “burned” by Frank over the past year and if Mr. Fan misuses a reverse split, then all of the pain and ill will that Frank generated would transfer to him. He would brand himself as just another Frank.



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Jenn for IR!!!!!
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More of my opinion…

Mr. Fan must get Q together ASAP. The Gay Games are a mere 4 months away. In the media business, this timeframe is getting short. He also probably feels that he has to get Q to a point that he can leave for a couple of weeks and know Q will be moving forward. Therefore, one of his top priorities, if not the top priority, now is acquiring trusted upper management to carry forward Q and his agenda. IMO, Mr. Fan will be in Burbank for the next week or two before the pressures of his other interests require him to return to Taiwan. I believe that before he departs we will have had a few communications containing much needed and cherished information. His need for damage control directed to the investors, cable carriers, advertisers, Gay Games, employees, potentially new cable regions that were ready but are withholding because of Franks mess, Verizon, SelecTv (to start broadcasting late this month) and many more is imperative.

Frank attempted to run a business that grew well beyond his ability to handle it. Mr. Fan currently operates companies that are substantially larger than Q. Mr. Fan has shown his willingness to make Q successful and he has the finances to do it. He has already demonstrated that he can and does have the credentials to resolve Q’s current issues. All we have to do is put our faith into someone that has a proven track record.

I am being careful to not let the pain of Frank discolor my view of Mr. Fan. I feel better now then in many months. Anxiety has yielded to hope and the sweet perfume of optimism has replaced the stench gloom. I do feel excited about Q. It’s been a long time and it feels good. I’m not trying to change anyone’s opinion of Q, but to just voice my thoughts and feelings.

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quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
did anyone that has spoke with Richard ask if Frank has any interest in this still?

is he completely out of the picture?

I would feel better if he is not in the office anymore, i dont care if he still holds shares, i just want him completely out of the picture as far as the operations of the company go.

Rod

Rod I'm sure you'll agree that from our experience, it's not a matter of asking Richard for that kind of information anymore, but rather just keeping an eye open as to what is officially documented with the WA S.O.S. lol
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quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
It's the same Investor Relations guy...

GB
I understand that Q apparently has the same "messenger" (Richard Brown), but most messengers can only deliver the messages given to them. I have worked in the PR field and have had to say "no comment" many times when I knew a straight answer was needed ... for everyone's sake. So I respect Richard's position and have no problem with his past work.

I know some people have been critical of his IHub posts, but I don't see that as a problem related to his job with Q. Just my opinion, of course.

My main concern now is how well Mr. Fan will communicate with his shareholders ... and when. Like most other shareholders, I feel Frank has treated us like mushrooms--kept in the dark and covered with organic equine fertilizer. I expect much better treatment from Mr. Fan, but only time will tell. Until then, I'm back to waiting ... again ... again ... again.

GL to us all. [Smile]

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oh i agree but i always find it humourous to ask questions he is not allowed to answer lol

just to get his reaction.

Rod

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quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends ...

Jennifer
Very well said. Thanks for your thoughts. [Smile]

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Jen....good post. However i have some questions. now, as a former shareholder who got out once the sight of massive dillution, and no audit i even STILL think sometimes of getting back in.

this is the thing though....over 100 BILLION shares...300 or so you say A/S? yeah i know they are not O/S but...

ok so we had PRs stating PRIVATE funding...many people felt some big pockets were investing. was that a lie? if it wasnt then why so much financing? maybe i just cant comprehend how expensive it is to get this going. i can not fathom a buyback of shares when the amount is hundreds of billions. its almost another CMKX story...the little company that could.

however, there IS a market and a heartbeat left. personally i thinkthe former CEO was selfish to not be more open with company workers, and shareholders about what was going on. anyone remember that audit that was supposed to come out in what...october/november? remember how everyone was SO ANXIOUS!?

i just dont see how we can slash and cut down this HUGE share count without a R/S. id say between 60 and 75 to 1 is what would need to be done. even then you are still in the good billions. I would like to see no more than 2 billion O/S

how on earth are the big boys going to want to play with sloppy books and more shares than the world population?


i would like to see Q make it, and in fact i may get back in at .0001 just because it cant go ANY LOWER....sounds pretty bad? im actually thinking about investing in a stock because it cant go any lower.....wow

but...Q DOES have potential...yes sir it does. this new guy....what are his past accomplishments? has he ever taken on a challenge under pressure and milked the utters of success?

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Bottomliner,

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BL,
What are you doing up so late?

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Dear Moo,
As a member of the world population, I want to thank you for that udderly delightful post. Just don't milk it too much!

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wow quiet in here today lol

i mean udderly ridiculous how quiet it is

[Razz]

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Morning everyone,

As I said before, I am presently sitting on the sidelines on a tangled debate with myself on whether to get back in or not. I think JenCD wrote an excellent article along with both Rod and Doc's opinion. Rod and I have seen transformation from a brutal company to a company with profit and respect for its employees. We work that company. We saw the growing pains including taking out the SR VP who was classified as a tyrant.

Changes where not made overnight, but over 3 year’s time. The difference between who we work for and Q is about 10 billion dollars and growing world wide. Seeing is believing. Mr.Fan does have his work cut out for him and once he has released some strategies, the picture hopefully will become much clearer. As the song says “should I stay or should I go now” which was I believe written by Nash the Slash.

Q can have many possibilities but that string is to be yet unraveled. I have to agree with JenCD that if Mr.Fan has a large vested interest in this company then I am sure he has done his homework, leaving no loopholes for Fat Frank to slither through.

Judging from how the take over was done, it looks like it was a hostel one at that as Fat boy did not do his conversion to preferred shares leaving him some safety and got caught with his pants down. (Not a pretty sight I am sure). If Frank got screwed out of this deal then good for Fan, it’s about time someone turned the table the other way.

The only part of Jen's theory I am wrestling with is the 2 to 3 cents. Based on what is presently at hand, Fan will have a challenge just to get back up to .002 to .003. Although a reverse split does look ineveitable at the moment, it would also create certain death. The showing fo enrichment and value to the shareholders will be where certainy can be built on before an RS can be looked at as a plus.

All this being said, this has now become a wait and see game. Good luck to everyone.

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Did the edit to make it easier to read.

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quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
I agree, pappy, a r/s should increase the pps.

However, after the profit taking..........we could begin to look like the same song, second verse stock.


GLTA [Smile]

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Suz, i am going to say this as nice as i can. That line of yours is in the top 3 of worst or most idiotic comments ever from a message board poster.

Im not going to cut you up, because obviously you have NO IDEA. and i do feel sorry for you.

But this needs to be said, because some people that are new, may think you know what your talking about.

1. A RS from a company sitting at .0001 is terrible. End of story. 99.99999999, or heck, maybe all 100% of them turned out for the worst.

2. Profit taking??? You really have to be kidding me. In fact, i was drinking orange juice when i heard this and it came out of my nose i was laughing so hard. I even called up some trading friends of mine and told them of your comment about Profit taking after a RS. ahahahhah, outright hilarious and im laughing my butt off again.

3. PPS is going to go up after a RS. you are out of your mind girl. Yes theroritcally it goes up, but lets say that they RS it up to 5 cents a share. Now, it will mathimatically be the same as a .0001 with a higher OS. But trust me when i say their will not be any profit taking because of a run up. It will open that day at around 5 cents and close at around 2-3 cents.

RS are devasting. Worst thing in penny stocks besides bankruptcy.

RS from a company sitting at .0001 with a OS at 100B+ is worst case scenario.

sorry if this sounded rude, in fact, you made my day start off great. thanks. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
Hello all my QBID friends


Now for some blatant speculation: If all the A/S, 350 Billion, are now outstanding and Mr. Fan brings Q to “the next level”, we could see a healthy return on our investments. I can foresee a well-managed QTN becoming profitable in a few months. I also anticipate much further progress in the dissemination of Q’s availability throughout the country. I tend to believe that our recent lack of new cable regions was a direct result of Q’s recent problems. Until stability is recovered, any increase in signal distribution will be nullified. In the coming days or couple of weeks, Mr. Fan will disseminate his roadmap. Then, and only then, will we see movement forward. One cannot foretell the future, but we can imagine the probabilities. I vision a rapidly moving, well-run company that Mr. Fan plans to have ideally positioned for the Gay Games. If Mr. Fan sells out in a few years, QTN could bring $3.5 to $10 Billion. That would yield 1 to 3 cents a share when valued against the worst case of 350 Billion O/S.


Jenn, great well thought out post. Really says nothing, but you are a good writer IMO.

Just one problem, you say all these things and get people excited but you really have no clue what your talking about. Just like the other day when you were saying that it was great thing that the company fired and didnt pay 75% of their payroll. You always write it very articulatly, but really have ludcaris comments.

Here, all i want it for you to show us or back up your comments regarding Fan turning this into a profitable enterprise in "a couple months"

Remember burn rate was 1M (according to Frank before they really cranked up the production.) Id say its around 3M per month, but the example will work the same with 2M.

So ill let you first post your research, then ill go ahead with mine. thanks jenn, because there is always room for more than 1 opinion. If you dont respond, i understand [Wink]

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Opinions and speculations that is all we have at this point, well here is mine…

Lloyd is a supposedly a “great business person,” yet all we can find out about him is that he has a few websites up and running that sell hooks and straps, etc. Never the less, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and that being the case, we should brace ourselves for some drastic changes. I would venture to say that “change” will benefit Lloyd and his group of investor first and foremost, before we (QBID shareholders) see any benefits. Below are the key areas that Lloyd will need to address:

1)Fire all VP/BOD level staff – this has already happened
2)Review assets/debt/contracts, etc (notice I did not say QBID O/S or similar)
3)Hire new staff and reorganize organization
4)Settle lawsuits that are currently in motion/place
5)Sell off and/or liquidate TMM assets that are considered non-valuable to core business “plan”
6)Nail down any additional required finances/ lines of credit, etc that may be necessary to finance the new business venture/plan
7)QBID shareholders (low priority – if any)

Now, something that has always bugged me with Frankie the Fraudster was that he had different companies operating independently such as QTN, TMM, Satellite by Liquidation, NTI and Franklin productions, etc. And these are the ones that we know of at the time. WE as QBID shareholders have never really known what we own or not other than the lies we got from Frankie. And again, in the past two PRs we have seen that TMM and QTN are mentioned as two separate companies. That being said, I think Lloyd will probably spin off QTN/ and maybe NTI with it. Remember, QTN currently has an A/S of 75K shares. It is primed for spin-off and/or it may be kept private (as Frankie the Fraudster wanted)

The QTN Media studios, which apparently were never owned/bought by QTN/TMM (as we were falsely told in previous PRs by Frankie) will be bought or Lloyd will continue to outsource to them IAW contracts in place or he may choose to go back to Firestone in order to settle existing lawsuits.

OK so that leaves the remainder TMM (QBID) “assets” which are currently worth .0000/.0001 per our PPS. IMO, Lloyd will have to either R/S, continue to liquidate or sell-off and/or bankrupt. None of these options look good for us QBID shareholders…I am not sure how we are too benefit. I want to believe that Lloyd will make a different and he probably will, but to whose benefit? His and his partners of course... It is his money and he does not (unlike Frankie the Fraudster) have any obligation to us. I hope I am wrong, and if so, great, because then we will have witnessed a pinkie miracle - and that is RARE.

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millertime you need a lesson in public relations.

this was the most ignorant post i have ever seen from someone trying to correct someone else's post.

there was no respect for the person you where trying to correct, and no cooth to your message.

you could have been a lot nicer about it.

You may know how a r/s works but you have absolutely no feelings about others feelings.

this was plain ignorant the way you spilled this out.

your message is right but your delivery plain sucked.

your first line stated you are going to say this as nice as you can, but to me it looks like you went way out of your way to be as ignorant as you could.

a little public relations training would do you marvels.

I was not trying to be nice in this post.

Rod


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Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
I agree, pappy, a r/s should increase the pps.

However, after the profit taking..........we could begin to look like the same song, second verse stock.


GLTA [Smile]

OH MY GOD. LMAO. ahahahahah
ahhahahaah
ahahaahahahahaha
ahahaahahhaah
aahahahhahahaahahahah
ahahaahahahaha
aahahahahahahahahahaahahha
ahaahahah

Suz, i am going to say this as nice as i can. That line of yours is in the top 3 of worst or most idiotic comments ever from a message board poster.

Im not going to cut you up, because obviously you have NO IDEA. and i do feel sorry for you.

But this needs to be said, because some people that are new, may think you know what your talking about.

1. A RS from a company sitting at .0001 is terrible. End of story. 99.99999999, or heck, maybe all 100% of them turned out for the worst.

2. Profit taking??? You really have to be kidding me. In fact, i was drinking orange juice when i heard this and it came out of my nose i was laughing so hard. I even called up some trading friends of mine and told them of your comment about Profit taking after a RS. ahahahhah, outright hilarious and im laughing my butt off again.

3. PPS is going to go up after a RS. you are out of your mind girl. Yes theroritcally it goes up, but lets say that they RS it up to 5 cents a share. Now, it will mathimatically be the same as a .0001 with a higher OS. But trust me when i say their will not be any profit taking because of a run up. It will open that day at around 5 cents and close at around 2-3 cents.

RS are devasting. Worst thing in penny stocks besides bankruptcy.

RS from a company sitting at .0001 with a OS at 100B+ is worst case scenario.

sorry if this sounded rude, in fact, you made my day start off great. thanks. [Big Grin]



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Dew-it,

I know it is only an oppinion on your part but why would Loyd buy a company to bankrupt it? Some of the statements you made would be in conflict would they not? Really that makes no sense. In order to solidify any knowledge we have, we will have to wait for a PR from Loyd stating the company assets.

Now I can see settling debt and reorganization to take the company forward. I am sure if Fan took Q from Frank, it would have been for pennies on the dollar as that is all it is worth and not the imaginary numbers Frank thinks of.

I am dam sure Franks reputation as a slime ball is world renoun and trust is something that Fan would not have had for Frank. That is not my opinion but is fact that Frank has made clear to the general public in legal PR's he released. Frank may be cheezy and sleezy but I am sure Fan taught him a lesson in real bussines.

My hat is off for the Fan Man.


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Originally posted by Dew-it:
Opinions and speculations that is all we have at this point, well here is mine…

Lloyd is a supposedly a “great business person,” yet all we can find out about him is that he has a few websites up and running that sell hooks and straps, etc. Never the less, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and that being the case, we should brace ourselves for some drastic changes. I would venture to say that “change” will benefit Lloyd and his group of investor first and foremost, before we (QBID shareholders) see any benefits. Below are the key areas that Lloyd will need to address:

1)Fire all VP/BOD level staff – this has already happened
2)Review assets/debt/contracts, etc (notice I did not say QBID O/S or similar)
3)Hire new staff and reorganize organization
4)Settle lawsuits that are currently in motion/place
5)Sell off and/or liquidate TMM assets that are considered non-valuable to core business “plan”
6)Nail down any additional required finances/ lines of credit, etc that may be necessary to finance the new business venture/plan
7)QBID shareholders (low priority – if any)

Now, something that has always bugged me with Frankie the Fraudster was that he had different companies operating independently such as QTN, TMM, Satellite by Liquidation, NTI and Franklin productions, etc. And these are the ones that we know of at the time. WE as QBID shareholders have never really known what we own or not other than the lies we got from Frankie. And again, in the past two PRs we have seen that TMM and QTN are mentioned as two separate companies. That being said, I think Lloyd will probably spin off QTN/ and maybe NTI with it. Remember, QTN currently has an A/S of 75K shares. It is primed for spin-off and/or it may be kept private (as Frankie the Fraudster wanted)

The QTN Media studios, which apparently were never owned/bought by QTN/TMM (as we were falsely told in previous PRs by Frankie) will be bought or Lloyd will continue to outsource to them IAW contracts in place or he may choose to go back to Firestone in order to settle existing lawsuits.

OK so that leaves the remainder TMM (QBID) “assets” which are currently worth .0000/.0001 per our PPS. IMO, Lloyd will have to either R/S, continue to liquidate or sell-off and/or bankrupt. None of these options look good for us QBID shareholders…I am not sure how we are too benefit. I want to believe that Lloyd will make a different and he probably will, but to whose benefit? His and his partners of course... It is his money and he does not (unlike Frankie the Fraudster) have any obligation to us. I hope I am wrong, and if so, great, because then we will have witnessed a pinkie miracle - and that is RARE.



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Let's all hope for a PR next week. Then I will be doing the FANdango!!!

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