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its not news worthy to make this thing run anymore.
the big dollars are waiting for financial.
with the size of the float it is going to need some big hype to move it right now. that is why the price drops quicker then it rises.
in order for the price to rise, the available shares for sale needs to dry up, thus the price goes up to entice the next proffit takers to sell thier shares. at these levels there is not a lot of proffit takers, but more people getting disgusted with the price. there is no urgency for people to start buying right now.
when a large satellite carrier is announced then you will see people rushing to get in, wanting to get thier fill so they will put in market buys and that is when the price will start to move up, when the demand exceeds the supply.
with 19-23 billion shares out, the supply is large and the demand is weak right now. we are only trading 300 million that is only about 1.5% of the O/S
you need to see 1.5- 2 billion share volume in the day to make a significant move in the price right now, and or a major announcement about being fully reporting.
That is why everyone was upset to find out that Frank diluted to these levels.
i cant see him not doing a R/S to get this back into a decent shape. a minimum of 10/1 would be need to get this back into perspective.
Frank promises he wont, but i really cant see how he can not. unless his plan is to migrate to a new exchange and in that process give us 1 share of the new ticker symbol for 10 shares of QBID. technically that would not be a R/S but more of a merger into the new stock. It is effectively the same thing, but can be a good thing as long as he does not dilute into the new ticker.
That is how i think he will do it. There is no way that they are going to buy back 10-15 billion shares to bring this back to where we will need to be to move to a new exchange.
dont get me wrong on this im not negative on this stock, this to me seems to be the only logical move that Frank has left to bring us out of the pinks, which he is going to have to do to get any institutional holdings to take us serious.
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I agree Penny. Can't seriously get out of the pennies until value is increased and unfortunately, the investors are usually the ones that take the hit to make the jump.
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qtn has CONTENT. producing it all the time. large cable carriers are nice, but not the only distribution method available to broadcast that content. ..video iPod ..cell phones ..im ..the next new technology.
the key is--we GOT the content.
we need the distribution channels.
all kinds of alliances are forming with these media companies. guess what?? they all need content (and up-to-date content at that) to keep up with the competition.
and these video clips (or 'snippets') can be very financially lucrative to the content providers (us), just like vod is.
no reason why google/comcast, or microsoft/yahoo, or ebay/skype shouldn't be in negotiations with qtn to provide our unique brand of content. ...unless they aren't interested in our targeted demographic.
just another distribution channel for us. we're already producing the relevent programming content. and in the format (up-to-date, timely) desired.
CONTENT is KING.
that's the business we're in. c'mon frankie, let's get into some 'talks', and cut some deals with these guys. like, now would be good....
Google, Comcast in AOL talks: reports By MarketWatch Last Update: 7:12 AM ET Oct. 13, 2005
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Google Inc. and Comcast Corp. have emerged as the latest potential suitors regarding the purchase of a stake in America Online, media reports said.
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- There is an upside and downside to the alliances forming in the war of the virtual worlds.
The downside is the partnering could mean the pie is shrinking and we're near a top of the market. The upside is that all the unlikely formations are as riveting to watch as some of the best movies out there.
If you haven't heard, Microsoft's (MSFT) MSN and Yahoo (YHOO), decided, apparently after being in discussions for a "long time," that they should look beyond their differences, accept each other's imperfections, and commit to one another, well, when it comes to instant messaging, anyway.
Upon hearing of the IM combo (as I stared at the five instant messaging clients that clutter my desktop), I pinged MarketWatch's software reporter and asked: "OK. What's going on up in Redmond?"
Coincidentally, I used AIM, which holds the bulk of my contacts, and is the dominant IM client across the desktops in the U.S.
Back to the point: If Microsoft were a person, I'd say it's broken out of its hardcore, perhaps arrogant and prideful shell and risen to another level of consciousness that's allowed it to embrace its rivals and become one with them.
GETTING SOFT
In some ways Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft, dare I say, appears to be getting a bit soft.
Whatever drove it to achieve this new self -- a tinge of paranoia perhaps -- isn't the point. Soft is good. It's good to embrace enemies, forgive, forget, and then forge ahead.
Last month, speculation was rife that MSN wanted to buy Time Warner's (TWX) AOL unit, a relationship that almost certainly would have ended AOL's longstanding partnership with Google (GOOG) and made MSN a far more formidable competitor in the search wars.
Earlier in the week, in a bid to compete in the online music wars against Apple (AAPL), the Washington-based software giant settled its differences with RealNetworks (RNWK) for $761 million, of which $460 million is up-front cash.
Also last month, longtime rivals Microsoft and Palm (PALM) announced that they would birth a smart phone as Web interaction goes wireless.
To be sure, Microsoft isn't alone in forming interesting partnerships.
Google and Comcast may end up with AOL's content, according to a WSJ report Wednesday. Then there's Google's recent alliance with Sun Microsystems (SUNW), as well as eBay's acquisition of Skype Technologies.
Still, the question I have is: Why is Microsoft aligning itself with everyone?
The obvious three reasons are: Google, Skype and Apple.
Google's Google Talk, as nascent as it is, is likely to become popular quickly. It's only been around a couple months and we've seen enough upstarts disrupt the playing field or become the real game changers.
Skype, which was scooped up by eBay (EBAY) for a total of $4 billion, reached 54 million users worldwide in two years, surpassing AOL's IM, which took a decade to top 45 million users. Skype just released its first Skype-Linux phone. Yep. And it won't stop there. There will be new Skype phones that everyone will be carrying around. Well, maybe. Let's see, should I get a Skype phone with really cheap phone service?
INTEROPERATE THIS
I can go on and on. But here's my take on the IM wars. I think consolidating two players - Yahoo and MSN - is better than having them operate separately. Combining six -- Google Talk, Skype, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger, and ICQ - would be even better.
In theory, this Yahoo, MSN united IM will be available in the second quarter of 2006. It'll work only if they execute. It's all in the execution because we all know they have the resources -- the name brands, the intellectual capital, the distribution.
I also believe that interoperability is inevitable. After all, emails were once islands, as I was reminded by a couple of product employees at EarthLink.
To be sure, the instant messaging world may be different. "Seems like AOL and ICQ took forever to be compatible, and I'm not sure they are now," said Mike Cassidy, CEO and founder of Xfire, an IM client for gamers.
Now, the other questions I have are: Who will AOL align with?
And, if AOL aligns with Google, will the alliances be Yahoo and MSN vs. Google/AOL vs. eBay/Skype?
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it takes 8 million dollars to buy back 10 billion shares at this level, all he has to do is get 1 or 2 more privite investors to front the $ for a bigger return on the back end. were talking about some wealthy GLBT people in the entertainment industry that might be willing to give Frank some support in that respect. we will just have to wait until we see audited #'s to find out what's up.
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Although I am looking forward to the CC next week, I really do not think we are going to get the answers we as shareholders want. Frank is good at side-stepping questions and leaving open to interpretation his responses, as was the case during the Nov 04 CC. The same holds true with his "shareholder" communications posted on the website and in PR's. Honesty, I could give a hoot about the CC. All, I want is audited finacials - I want to know net worth, profits, assets, expenses. Period! BTW, hsa anyone recieved the DVD that is suppose to map out QTN plan? I have not even recieved an acknowledgement response from Richard or QTN. The CC in my opinion will only lead to more questions and interpretation. And that is all I have to say about that...
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PT, i understand exactly what you are saying, but i have been trading for a while, and i will say that a common myth is that stocks with huge OS cannot run....
IT IS NOT GOING TO TAKE 1-2 BILLIONS SHARES TO MAKE THIS STOCK RUN...IT IS GOING TO TAKE THE DILUTION TO DRY UP! FRANK DILUTES INTO RUNS AND THATS WHAT SLOWS IT DOWN.
This is not directed to you Rod, because i have seen many many people say this...that "QBID will not run without 1-2 Billion of shares traded."
Completely wrong. What it is, is obvious dilution holding us down..that is why i stress the fact of carriers to bring in revenue to stop the dilution...
OK, put it this way................. Say Q puts out massive news in 1 month stating that they have got DISH network signed on...(and for the hypothetical say QBID has broke even now and is not diluting.) ---ok, so there is no dilution whatsoever going on in this hypothetical...For people to buy the stock they have to be buying shares that somebody is wanting to sell...so, nobody is going to be selling 1 or 2 or 3 ticks up, they will be holding out for bigger numbers...
we always asked outsevles who is selling into these runs, well its frank and co. When companies dilute they dilute mostly into runs! GZFX sold like 750M-1.25 Bil shares into their latest run.
Ok, its hard to explain, but it is not the OS that will stop this...its dilution...if nobody is willing to sell their shares because of monster news than we could run up 100% in an hour....
im sorry i couldnt explain it more, and if anyone understand what im saying, then please try and help out...
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And somebody else was saying that they are going to have to RS to bring the OS down to get to a higher exchange...
I am not 100% correct, but i recall the only difference between the otcbb and the pinks is on the otcbb the companies need to report financials...
so with that understanding, they could get to the otcbb (which is better than the AMEX) with a OS of even 600Billion (just a hypothetical)...
So what i am looking for is, release financials, become fully reporting, and put in application to otcbb...for some reason, im thinking it takes about 2-4 months for the otcbb to make a decision whether to let you on or not
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ETRD is not kidding around on the bid....this has gotta be a promoter or a big money player...thus far he must have at least 60 Million in shaers in the past hour
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2 new QTN newsclips 2 new QTN new orlean dispatch clips
Very good in my opinion and i would hope many of you would take the time out to watch your network in action...
Seeing this good of correspondents and hosts, it makes you wonder how much these people are getting paid...I think they are probably doing this because they believe so strongly in what the network stands for...seems like they love their jobs..
first time ive seen joe beachley in one of the clips--hes top notch for a correspondent,,seems like he could be on a nbc,cbs,abc world news
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quote:Originally posted by MillerTIME: And somebody else was saying that they are going to have to RS to bring the OS down to get to a higher exchange...
I am not 100% correct, but i recall the only difference between the otcbb and the pinks is on the otcbb the companies need to report financials...
so with that understanding, they could get to the otcbb (which is better than the AMEX) with a OS of even 600Billion (just a hypothetical)...
So what i am looking for is, release financials, become fully reporting, and put in application to otcbb...for some reason, im thinking it takes about 2-4 months for the otcbb to make a decision whether to let you on or not
I think doc mentioned that Frank said higher excahange up to 6 months after financials released.
I think the RS concept for higher exchange is because some of the higher (higher than OTCBB) require a minimum price ($1 sticks in my mind). The only way that is going to happen with QBID is to have a RS (beleive me, if it happend at this OS most of us on this board wouldn't care about moving to a higher exchange, we'd all be millionaires!).
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quote:interesting questions there, some are gonna be tough for frank..
LETS GET OUR LIST GOIN!!there killin us, but i see that our list has quite a few questions that theres doesnt..
Add these: 1. When will the transfer agent be "ungagged"? 2. Would you be willing to release the audit by a date, say December 30th, 2005, set by the stockholders?
I'd be very interested in his answer to #2. These audit delays are ridiculous. There's no point in delaying this anymore, and if there is, he needs to state it. You can't just say "oh well, there was a dirty shell" and expect shareholders to suddenly start throwing more money at the company.
Not only that, but I'm beginning to think there's some credence to the whole "intentionally lowering the price" deal. Think of it as a "group play" orchestrated by the CEO of the company. Hope the SEC is watching for that one.
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yeah gator i agree, to get to a nasdaq, amex, or nyse you need to rs to get to a higher price and lower float...
but there is no way we are gonna jump from the pinks to the nasdaq and we DO NOT want to go to the amex....our best choice is the otcbb, and i think all we need is to be fully reporting...
so a RS is NOT needed to get to the otcbb which we should be heading
maybe 2 years down the road we will be big enough to get onto the nasdaq,, then think about a RS
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I know this is contrary to most here, but I want to see a slide down to .0005. Need about 4M more shares! Then it can run all it wants!
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it would be sweet to have a big P/R right now and flood some buys in to catch VERT off the ask. man come on, now is when we need those buys!!
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If I recall correctly, back in Mar 05 timeframe, Frankie mentioned something about a "Telephony" (SP?) interested in Q content and there has been speculation about which phone company that could be. Recently, Verizon has launced their FiOS TV in Keller TX last month. Verizon is also in the process of launching this service in Fairfax VA - cable has been laid and FTC approval has been obtained. This is new TV broadcasting technolgy that cost about 3.95 per month. and I hope this is what Frank was talking about back in Mar timeframe. Any thoughts? I guess we will see.
quote:Originally posted by King Crimson: $1.99 per show...
original digital content, new growth area for hollywood, targeted demographics
quote:That is how i think he will do it. There is no way that they are going to buy back 10-15 billion shares to bring this back to where we will need to be to move to a new exchange.
A R/S is if they are going for NASDAQ. The only requirement of the OTCBB is to be reporting. QBID would be a great OTCBB stock. NASDAQ stocks tend to be overvalued when first listed anyway.
Frank does not have to do a R/S. But he does need to start buying back shares. Once they hit their breakeven, I hope he intends to earmark at least 80% of quarterly profits to doing exactly that for the first year. The difference between .0010 and .1 when there are 20 billion shares outstanding is 200 million - 20 million = 180 million.The difference between .0010 and .1 when there are 10 billion shares outstanding is 100 million - 10 million = 90 million.
quote:CONTENT
We also have DEMAND. CONTENT is basically SUPPLY. The only thing we need is a distribution channel to get the SUPPLY to the DEMAND.
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quote:That is how i think he will do it. There is no way that they are going to buy back 10-15 billion shares to bring this back to where we will need to be to move to a new exchange.
A R/S is if they are going for NASDAQ. The only requirement of the OTCBB is to be reporting. QBID would be a great OTCBB stock. NASDAQ stocks tend to be overvalued when first listed anyway.
Frank does not have to do a R/S. But he does need to start buying back shares. Once they hit their breakeven, I hope he intends to earmark at least 80% of quarterly profits to doing exactly that for the first year. The difference between .0010 and .1 when there are 20 billion shares outstanding is 200 million - 20 million = 180 million.The difference between .0010 and .1 when there are 10 billion shares outstanding is 100 million - 10 million = 90 million.
quote:CONTENT
We also have DEMAND. CONTENT is basically SUPPLY. The only thing we need is a distribution channel to get the SUPPLY to the DEMAND.
yeah G, your right on here...
They will probably go to the OTCBB and do not need a RS to get their, only to report their financials, and Ginvest is right, QBID would be a great otcbb stock...it is not a bad exchange, and there are many good companies on there...
and yes, i dont think a RS is needed, but as G said, they are going to have to earmark a large percentage of profits to buy back stock...and over 1-2 years of continually buying back stock, they will probably have the float down to 1-3 billion shares...
Whats SIRI got now (1-3billion?)
so yes it would be good to get the stock bought back at these levels, but i put my trust in Renee to do the right thing..Everyone seems to say he knows finance so im sure he knows how to do it better than me...
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