quote:Originally posted by stickfigurefred: Doing a little further investigation shows their other domain icmtelecom.com which is set to expire same day has not been moved, its still showing INTERLAND.NET as the DNS, whereas the new one has been moved to WORLDNIC.COM. My guess is something is about to hit the fan.
I hope you're thinking that something GOOD is abot to hit the fan!
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icmnetwork is still a registered domain, i think Stick is correct
go to www.networksolutions.com and search for icmnetwork in the domain searcher, furthermore, i think the underlying site is still there, go to www.icmnetwork.com, go to "View" in your tool bar, then select "Source" and youll see the code page for the underlying page. At the bottome of the source page you will see icmnetwork is still there (appliedsemantics.com, a google company) is also listed: i think they are the new host.
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i cant find the time change webhost server, ive done it before, anybody remember how to do this?
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on another note Vocalscape stock is going nuts up 500% since wed VCSC
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image directory is also down, i really think we might see a website this week
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Jmoove, I would love to see it but I dont want to get my hopes up. We have been waiting on this for a very long time. We really dont know what this means.
I hope it does I just dont want people to be disapointed when it doesnt.
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OK, I bumped it up...worth the uptick I guess...but I will so mad if the ask goes down! Oh well, at least I am not afraid to miss the run anymore:)
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If I remember correctly (too lazy to go back and readprevioius posts)... the switch that is being installed is going to serve a market into India, is that correct?
Well, if so I just heard an interesting statistic from a telecom financial analyst on CNBC... India has a billion people with only 4% having phones, that is expected to go to 25% in a very short time. Not sure how this would affect this stock but can't hurt.
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Posted 10/26/2005 9:54 PM Don't let hurricanes blow your medical records away By Julie Appleby, USA TODAY Companies touting online medical records to consumers are using Hurricane Katrina as a selling point: A disaster, they say, can destroy medical records kept in doctors' offices or make them otherwise unavailable. Eyeing the potential market, several new companies have joined WebMD and RelayHealth in offering online medical record-keeping services to consumers:
• MyMedicalRecords.com launched this month with an Internet-based personal health record that can be updated by fax. Scans and EKGs can be uploaded to the site. Consumers pay $59.95 to $79.95 a year, depending on family size.
• Medem, whose founders include the American Medical Association, launched iHealthRecord earlier this year. Instead of directly targeting consumers, the product is sold to doctors for $25 a month, who can then offer online medical records to their patients.
• Erickson Retirement Communities this month announced that it will roll out electronic medical records to all 13 of its independent-living communities, starting in November. Residents will be able to view their medical records online for any services they receive at an Erickson medical center.
"It's a solution that works today that would have addressed every single issue that came out of (the) recent disasters of Katrina and Rita," says Robert Lorsch, a Los Angeles businessman and founder of MyMedicalRecords.com.
With Internet-based records, Lorsch says, evacuees would have been able to trace their medical histories and pull up their prescriptions as soon as they were able to connect to the Web.
Still, online medical records companies face lackluster consumer response.
One of the first companies to try the concept was run by former surgeon general C. Everett Koop. Four years ago, drkoop.com announced an online personal health record program for consumers, says Mark Bard, president of Manhattan Research. It did not take off.
"Consumers did not show up," Bard says. "They weren't sitting around saying, 'I wish there was a place I could enter all my personal health information.' "
Bard says his firm's research shows that about 30 million Americans are likely users of computerized medical records. But there's a catch.
"Consumers, even those who are interested, don't want to pay for it," Bard says. "If demand was there, the bigger portals would be deeper into it."
The companies that may win the battle for consumer-focused electronic medical records are those that target insurance companies for payment, Bard says.
WebMD offers Health Manager, launched in 2003 to allow patients online storage of medical records. It also markets services directly to insurers and employers. The consumer product is free for six months, then $29.95 a year. WebMD won't disclose how many customers it has.
RelayHealth, of Emeryville, Calif., provides a number of functions to doctor offices, including the ability for them to e-mail patients, bill those insurers that currently pay for online consultations and offer online medical records to patients. Patients can use the service for free. Doctors and health plans pay for it.
But backers of direct-to-consumer online medical records say their services will gain ground, spurred by concern about record losses in disasters, the desire by consumers for more ease in moving medical records from one doctor to another and by the growing push to create a more digitized medical system.
Instead of waiting for the big players — hospitals, labs, medical clinics — to create networking systems, consumers can act now to have copies of their own records, they say.
"While governments and high-tech companies are trying to solve this whole issue of a national health record, which could take five or 10 years, there are people having problems today (in accessing medical records,)" says Ken Toren, co-founder of REDmedic, a Santa Clara, Calif.-based online medical record provider since 2003.
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VCSC did a r/s yesterday, ouch, now they are trading at 12.50 a share
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doesnt make a difference, just spotted it this am, i mentioned the stock the other day
not much in vol today
ask 11x2 14x2 18 20x2
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Dougie borrowed some money against restricted shares, he has until the end of the year to buy back the restricted shares, thus making the loan interest free. However, he only has to buy back the dollar amount of money he was lent. So, if he borrowed $100k then he buys back from the lender $100k worth of shares. Say the original restriced shares were "sold" at .0020 then $100k worth of those shares is 50 million shares. However, if the price goes to .0040 then he still buys back $100k worth 25 million shares, the lender keeps the rest of the shares. This is how the lender makes money. This type of leveraging does a couple things: 1. it is not the usual "share buy-back program" where sometimes companies will withhold news of the buy-back to keep the price low so they can buy back the set quantity of shares for less money. With Dougie's set up, it doesnt matter if the pps is .0020 or 1.00 he still buys back the same dollar amount of shares. 2. Because the lender wants to keep the most amount of shares possible the lender (and ICMH to make the lender happy) will seek to actually increase the pps before the buy back, hence giving the lender more "free shares" and creating more value for the lenders investment. (Again say the lender took 50 mill shares at .0020 ($100k lent), pps goes to .0040 (lender keeps 25 million shares, Dougie buys back the $100k loan which at .0040 equals only 25 million shares). Its really a win win situation all around. Hope this helps
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Almost November 1st. I think we've given Doug enough added time from the October 1 website launch date. How long does it really take to have some sort of site up (anything besides a stupid "under construction" page would do-maybe some information about the company to say the least)? I could program the html for that in a day.
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quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: Dougie borrowed some money against restricted shares, he has until the end of the year to buy back the restricted shares, thus making the loan interest free. However, he only has to buy back the dollar amount of money he was lent. So, if he borrowed $100k then he buys back from the lender $100k worth of shares. Say the original restriced shares were "sold" at .0020 then $100k worth of those shares is 50 million shares. However, if the price goes to .0040 then he still buys back $100k worth 25 million shares, the lender keeps the rest of the shares. This is how the lender makes money. This type of leveraging does a couple things: 1. it is not the usual "share buy-back program" where sometimes companies will withhold news of the buy-back to keep the price low so they can buy back the set quantity of shares for less money. With Dougie's set up, it doesnt matter if the pps is .0020 or 1.00 he still buys back the same dollar amount of shares. 2. Because the lender wants to keep the most amount of shares possible the lender (and ICMH to make the lender happy) will seek to actually increase the pps before the buy back, hence giving the lender more "free shares" and creating more value for the lenders investment. (Again say the lender took 50 mill shares at .0020 ($100k lent), pps goes to .0040 (lender keeps 25 million shares, Dougie buys back the $100k loan which at .0040 equals only 25 million shares). Its really a win win situation all around. Hope this helps
Good informative post. However, one of the caveates that occurs here is that the shares *could* become convertible. I mean, they could go from restricted to common shares if the loan is not paid back. Also, they could convert the rest of the restricted at buyback time.
Meaning in your scenario, if the PPS makes it to .0040 and the lender keeps 25 mil shares, they could convert to common stock at any time. Effectively producing what we like to call "dilution".
So this could be a win/win for the lender/lendee companies, but a bad thing for investors.
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My guess is he's going to do something this weekend with it. All indications from the looks of the hosting move and the weekend, usually the best time to upload, not that he's doing any business online with that domain right now anyway. And of course its just right before Nov 1st.
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Restricted shares can only be converted to common shares upon shareholder (i.e. Doug's) approval. As of right now and when he pays off the loan I believe they remain restricted (hence not part of the public float) thus they dont effect share price (even when Doug "buys" them back). My point of the post is that it actually behooves both parties to increase share price in order to create more transaction value for both parties.
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the telecom site has remained as that screen, its icmnetwork that has changed
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Oh, ok. I thought I looked at it yesterday and it was the new domain reg. It was the other one...thanks for the correction. I guess it's time to start drinking early. : ) Everyone have a great weekend! Hopefully, we have a new site and a big fat PR Monday.
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