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What are you talking about? Never mind, I don't really want to know. [Cool] LOL

quote:
Originally posted by shlik:
And it would be good for the shareholders.


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Shilk - You're about as intelligent as a cold cat turd. Now get lost before I have Rene' kick your a$$.
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Ya, stay in the dark.
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Turn off the light when you leave. [Cool]

quote:
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Ya, stay in the dark.


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Renes sipin pina colodas on your money, and laghing at you. I take their money.
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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:

the full transcript is still here: http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/009828.html

FRANK SAID:

"...Ok, the question was about the number of shares. There’s 9 and a half billion in the book. There’s 6 billion in institutional hands that is for security against agreements. That was money for gay games, that was money that was needed for borrowed programming and that’s what its there. We don’t expect to ______ the market. Now more of the questions we like to answer everything, if you’d like to add to that you can, but in the float there’s 9 in a half billion."...

..."The authorized shares are 50 billion but that’s just there as a number, that doesn’t mean we’re going to go out and _________. That was there for mergers, planned mergers, or acquisitions so the shares can ______. Nobody’s come running in the doors want to merge in."

AND...

"Frank Olsen: The numbers jive, see you have to understand, we consider we’ll be worth 5 billion in 5 years, because that’s based on sales of other channels. You have to take the black entertainment network, you have to take the Bass channel, lets take the golf channel, you take the QVC home shopping network, and you take sales of Bravo, all the niche channels, Sundance, you take all the niche channels and you see what their average length is, the average length is 3 years and then their bought out and made offers to buyout. The funny thing about the BET, they never made a dime, they never posted a profit and they sold for what, 5 billion."...


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Yeah that's my plan [Smile] not because I buy something that I like the product, I believe in what they are doing 'll be good, that's all
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Originally posted by shlik:
Your plan is to buy low from some sucker,,who is an idiot for letting his Q shares go, Right? and sell high to some other sucker, Right?



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And Thank You for posting a new one

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Thanks for the poll idea, Wangdo! [Cool]



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Ok here we go this is not going to be word for word as it will take me 2 days to type it all out and there was a lot of small talk that really isnt necessary to be typed out. but this is a very accurate summary of our call.


i asked Richard about the studio deal. the rumour is that the studio is only leased.

Richard stated that it is 100% owned by Q and the name will be changed soon to Q media city. they would not allow that on a leased building.


i next asked too explain what a national agreement meant.

Richard explained that it was a national licensing agreement where they are capable to carry Q television network if they so desire to.
the regional offices manger can decide not to or to carry the station.

i asked him if this means that Frank would have to negotiate with every location to convince them to carry the channel?


Richard said it not really a negotiations its more of whether they want to carry it or not. The hard part of the negotiation is over in that hey have the national deal signed with Cox in Atlanta. I feel that most will want it, as they spent the legal fees at head office and they did not do it for nothing. Cathy Ratzenberger is working right now on the region and helping to convince them to take the network

I asked if there where specific launch dates for cox regions.

He said that he has heard specific start dates for many areas, but im not going to get into those dates until they are confirmed by Cathy. what i can sat is Cox is very very excited to roll this out and they are not going to waist any time in delaying this.

I asked Richard about this letter that Frank supposedly signed with the answers to a bunch of questions. can you confirm or deny this letter?

Richard said I can not confirm or deny this letter. I have an email into Franks assistant to get verification on this but have not received any confirmation. I do know that Frank has met with people in Dallas when he has been there but not sure who with. I can tell you that someone at Allstocks stated that i set up a meeting with Frank. that is absolutely not true, i have never set up any meetings for anyone with Frank.


I made the comment that the price of this stock was doing some funny things that does not reflect the progress that we have made.

Richard stated that he agrees there is some funny stuff happening and that the company is not to happy about this. Frank calls me in the middle of the night when reviewing the days trades and he is very upset with this. they have signed 2 of the top 10 carriers and the signing of the deal on a revenue producing studio and the price does not make any sense.


i next asked him if the audit was still ongoing

Richard stated that yes it is still ongoing. The audit is beyond the scope of what im responsible, and i have been told by the company that i will see the audit a couple of days before the investors to help with the pr announcing that.


I then asked about the Pride Deal. is this still tied up in the Canadian Courts?

Richard said Yes that is right. i was just talking to Frank on that in fact because we have a deal with Pride to carry Jackie Jetts show on the Canadian channel. Frank stated that he still feels that he will own the Canadian pride vision channel. Frank keeps saying there is one thing i know and that is how to buy bankrupt companies and turn them around. And that is true he has done this in the past and turned bankrupt companies into something somewhat relatively spectacular.


At this point i changed the focus to Franks converting his 53% of the O/S to preferred stock

I asked him if this freed those shares up to trade them in the market.

Richard said absolutely not. these shares are converted to preferred shares and it has to be all done through lawyers and a lot of paperwork. Which means if Frank wants to sell them they have to be converted back and makes it so that he can not just dump them if he needs cash. the shares remain part of the O/S but are removed from the float.

I asked him to verify then that this converted stock does not free up more shares to dilute with.

he stated absolutely not. They are not diluting the stock. and again went into how the stock is removed from the float and is no longer tradable until it is converted back which could not happen over night as he would need to use third party lawyers and a pile of paperwork for this to happen.

I asked if Frank has considered reducing the A/S number to show that he is not using it.

Richard stated that he would not do that because that is his only insurance if something went wrong he would need to fall back to that to get him through a rough time if that where to happen. I dont think that they have issued very much from the A/S as 10 months ago they stated that they where fully funded through 2008 to break even but they feel they will be profitable in 2006. so there is no need to touch the a/s.

I asked about the o/s count.

Richard said he does not know what the o/s and there there are only 3 people in the company that know this number. Frank, Renee, and the lawyer Goldberg. when i asked Frank about this he referred me back to the Conference call for that. so if you go into the archives you can see what he states then as being the o/s and that is what he is sticking to.

I asked him about the NSS situation


he said all i can say is that i see certain mms that i will not name are sitting on the ask and the bid for hours on end absorbing 100s of millions of shares and what Frank is doing is going to these mms and requesting the info on where they are getting these volumes of shares without having to raise the price to encourage more shares to be sold. Frank knows the numbers and feels that he numbers dont jive


I then asked him. in a situation where naked shorting is taking place, will any of us be in risk of loosing our shares.


Richard answered no your shares where bought legally through a broker and are on the books. these are not at risk. What happened is that the market makers tend to borrow shares to sell during the day and the job of the ddtdc (or something like that) is to make sure that at the end of the day the numbers of shares that change hands balance at the end of the day. but they are way too lenient about this and thus the mms short the companies hoping that they go under and never have to come good for the shares. But Frank has no intentions of failing, he is just getting tired of seeing this happening and is trying to get this cleared up now. what will end up happening will be a really bad squeeze on the mms when it is all said and done. What Fran is going to do is go the these mms and check thier inventories and compare it to the transfer agents records and see if they are on record and if they are not he is going to keep pursuing it until they either cover their shorts


i then asked about the 6 billion restricted shares. can you give me any information on the status of these shares.

Richard said I cant tell you on that as i dont know but if you call back in a couple of days i will make a point of asking about these. What i do think i remember about these in the CC was that they are restricted for 5 years. but i will check on this and let you know when you call back.

this pretty much was the extent of it.

Richard said they are not diluting the stock. So correct me if I am wrong, but if they are can't you sue? I think everyone needs to relax and enjoy the ride that is on its way. The reason we are down to these numbers is because of smaller runs and then the sell off of the daytraders. If a daytrader buys into a run then sells on the down the price falls down farther each time. We soon will have a big run that will justify all the great news!
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http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=QBID,uu[w,a]daclyyay[dd][pb25!b75][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G

check the chart. Once we hit RSI 30 we run hard. Next run will be the biggest yet.

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quote:
Originally posted by shlik:
Your plan is to buy low from some sucker,,who is an idiot for letting his Q shares go, Right? and sell high to some other sucker, Right?

shlik
Not sure if you are talking to me, but I would like to address your comments anyway:

My "plan", as you call it, is to buy shares in a company by offering a price I believe is at or below the potential value of the shares within a reasonable amount of time. If I am able to buy shares at my bid price, I assume the seller considers my bid as fair. Otherwise, he would not have accepted my offer. I make no judgement about his mental state and certainly would not call him a "sucker".

Earlier, I asked you several direct questions, but I have not seen a reply. To make it easy for you, I've rephrased my questions in very simple terms:

1) Do you believe Frank cannot get rich unless the shareholders lose everything?
2) If not, please explain what you meant by this statement: "If I was Frank I'd be thinkin how do I take the profits from this without giving them away to the shareholders."
3) Do you believe Frank is currently "cheating" the shareholders or plans to "cheat" them in the future?
4) If so, why do you believe this?

May I have the courtesy of a response from you?

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I agree with that, but you can't see that it'll be at 0.0012 or lower, that'll depend of the next days at what they'll close because the calculate it on 9-15 days, sow it changes every day, and it doen't always mean it 'll run, check the month february,it went under 30 and it didn't run,the " big "run 'll stay out until the audit

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Please tell me if these numbers add up.
Per the conference call in 2004 they say their outstanding shares was 50 Billion shares. They also announced a 2% buy back around 1 billion shares.

50 Billion
1 billion - 2% buy back Oct. 2004
1.5 billion buy back - 3% buy back June 14th 2005
25 billion retired stock - 53% August 2, 2005
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22 billion outstanding shares give or take a billion.

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thanks for the info pennies.
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quote:
Originally posted by 4Art:
What are you talking about? Never mind, I don't really want to know. :cool: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by shlik:
And it would be good for the shareholders.


4Art
I would like to send you a PM. But you have to allow PMs in your profile.

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Run with it barry.cuz i just dont know and i know you dont.
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quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
Run with it barry.cuz i just dont know and i know you dont.

HA! Your funny. I know I don't know - If I did I wouldn't have posted it. I would have just said "There are X number of shares outstanding".
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quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
I Vote for Suzainiee to call Frank and tell him to suspend trading on Monday before bell....

LOL

How about an e-mail to Richard?

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quote:
Originally posted by barry4821:
Please tell me if these numbers add up.
Per the conference call in 2004 they say their outstanding shares was 50 Billion shares. They also announced a 2% buy back around 1 billion shares.

50 Billion
1 billion - 2% buy back Oct. 2004
1.5 billion buy back - 3% buy back June 14th 2005
25 billion retired stock - 53% August 2, 2005
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22 billion outstanding shares give or take a billion.

i can tell you right now that your numbers do not add up. i also request you to read the script of the cc again carefully. the authorized shares was 50 bil, the outstanding shares was not 50 bil. if you cannot tell the difference between authorized and outstanding shares, just ask the question, the guys here will be happy to help.
if you did read the script carefully and still stated the outstanding shares were 50 bil, then allstocks would not be a site for you to post.

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How can a PR announcing a deal with Cox cable produce no trend reversal at all?
Also a side note: How funny is it that the Gay TV chanell goes with cox?

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LOL Deport, your deported! [Wink]

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you mean you're not your

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?????

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it wasnt released on the wire
"Cox doesnt allow pr for there new carriage agreements"

does anyone have a link to the conference call(if there is one)?... I couldnt find one

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quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
How can a PR announcing a deal with Cox cable produce no trend reversal at all?
Also a side note: How funny is it that the Gay TV chanell goes with cox?

enlighten us how you see the funny side of gay tv channel goes with cox !!!

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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngeI:
it wasnt released on the wire
"Cox doesnt allow pr for there new carriage agreements"

does anyone have a link to the conference call(if there is one)?... I couldnt find one

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/009828.html

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thanks tgn
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Watch out for DeportTheWitless ... A major troll.
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quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
I Vote for Suzainiee to call Frank and tell him to suspend trading on Monday before bell....

LOL

How about an e-mail to Richard?
i fowarded this page to richard brown.

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Seriously lets look at the apparent facts for a moment.
Doesn't matter how many shares QBID has... honestly it really doesn't.
Look at MSFT LU SIRI... and thousands of others out there... they have billions of shares.
So share count isn't it.
Probability for astronomical earnings...
QBID has that... overwhelming market share in a burgoning market.
So that isn't the reason.
Positive press releases...
QBID has that.
Everything is in order for a substantial gain... except one thing.
Frank is still selling shares...
Untill the tide is stemmed there will be no gains.

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Interesting conversation and frustration recently.....I see the this thread and the poll, have some ominous outlooks...it'll be VERY interesting, when/if the truth is told.....I'm voting for truth in the near future....but what do I know....GL.....

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Frank is still selling shares???
we have heard many callers here on the board talking to richard that frank is not selling shares. so, between deportthewitless's unproven statement and the ir richard's statement, I believe frank is NOT selling shares.

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....and before the question, truth=audit, (financial disclosure).....done....

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Please note that all on this thread have seen Frank's work.
The moment this stock touched .0014 there was an influx of new pumpers...
Remember that skunk chick who suddenly appeared and posted the minute to minute developments on QTV?
Notice she and her friend disappeared moments after the price spike was over?
It isn't the "bashers" you should worry about... it's the paid pumpers.
I don't want you to sell... don't want you to buy either.. just looking for healthy debate about an unknown.

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quote:
Originally posted by tqn:
enlighten us how you see the funny side of gay tv channel goes with cox !!!

tqn
It's commonly called "potty humor". Very popular with pre-teens and other immature minds with sexual self doubt.

Another sign of immaturity is correcting the spelling or grammar of other posters. Usually indicates low self esteem. And I've only hit the highlights of his psych profile. LOL.

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