quote:Originally posted by Bigrod40: . . . Ask Frank if he has thought of suspending trading for a couple of days before the audit numbers are released? Shoot the MMs in the A S S.
Bigrod Good question for Frank . . . and a good idea. But can such a thing be done without the MMs knowing about it in advance? My concern is that they will know it's coming and take care of themselves before it happens. I "know" they have friends in high places (the SEC maybe?).
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Bottomliner, I was going to enjoy my weekend, now I will be scratching my head wondering about the answers to your questions....LOL Anyways I hope its naked not dilution,and Frankie Boy gets the last laugh. And I get to tell people I have FINANCIAL FREEDOM because of a Gay TV Network.
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quote:Originally posted by Bigrod40: Bottomliner, I was going to enjoy my weekend, now I will be scratching my head wondering about the answers to your questions....LOL Anyways I hope its naked not dilution,and Frankie Boy gets the last laugh. And I get to tell people I have FINANCIAL FREEDOM because of a Gay TV Network.
Bigrod Take the weekend off . . . you deserve it. And I won't be around for a few days to read your answers anyway. Off to Vegas tomorrow for four days of non-stop poker. And I intend to casually mention QBID at every table. Who knows . . . may find a fellow QBIDiot sitting next to me. Wouldn't that be a hoot?
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Vegas!! Lucky guy ....Enjoy If you like Celene Dion, spend some of your winnings and take in the show, you wont regret it..Have a good one.
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"...Ok, the question was about the number of shares. There’s 9 and a half billion in the book. There’s 6 billion in institutional hands that is for security against agreements. That was money for gay games, that was money that was needed for borrowed programming and that’s what its there. We don’t expect to ______ the market. Now more of the questions we like to answer everything, if you’d like to add to that you can, but in the float there’s 9 in a half billion."...
..."The authorized shares are 50 billion but that’s just there as a number, that doesn’t mean we’re going to go out and _________. That was there for mergers, planned mergers, or acquisitions so the shares can ______. Nobody’s come running in the doors want to merge in."
AND...
"Frank Olsen: The numbers jive, see you have to understand, we consider we’ll be worth 5 billion in 5 years, because that’s based on sales of other channels. You have to take the black entertainment network, you have to take the Bass channel, lets take the golf channel, you take the QVC home shopping network, and you take sales of Bravo, all the niche channels, Sundance, you take all the niche channels and you see what their average length is, the average length is 3 years and then their bought out and made offers to buyout. The funny thing about the BET, they never made a dime, they never posted a profit and they sold for what, 5 billion."...
~BB
quote:Originally posted by Ligge: Anyone remember the conference call numbers? I have been dealing with numbers every waking moment this week and have seen so many I am not sure if 2+2=5 is wrong or not! Plus I am just lazy
"...Ok, the question was about the number of shares. There’s 9 and a half billion in the book. There’s 6 billion in institutional hands that is for security against agreements. That was money for gay games, that was money that was needed for borrowed programming and that’s what its there. We don’t expect to ______ the market. Now more of the questions we like to answer everything, if you’d like to add to that you can, but in the float there’s 9 in a half billion."...
..."The authorized shares are 50 billion but that’s just there as a number, that doesn’t mean we’re going to go out and _________. That was there for mergers, planned mergers, or acquisitions so the shares can ______. Nobody’s come running in the doors want to merge in."
AND...
"Frank Olsen: The numbers jive, see you have to understand, we consider we’ll be worth 5 billion in 5 years, because that’s based on sales of other channels. You have to take the black entertainment network, you have to take the Bass channel, lets take the golf channel, you take the QVC home shopping network, and you take sales of Bravo, all the niche channels, Sundance, you take all the niche channels and you see what their average length is, the average length is 3 years and then their bought out and made offers to buyout. The funny thing about the BET, they never made a dime, they never posted a profit and they sold for what, 5 billion."...
~BB
quote:Originally posted by Ligge: Anyone remember the conference call numbers? I have been dealing with numbers every waking moment this week and have seen so many I am not sure if 2+2=5 is wrong or not! Plus I am just lazy
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Betting Babe Simple...Heres an example 1) August 22-- Suspend trading before bell. 2) August 22--Issue PR stating "Trading to resume at 12:00 P.M. August 23. 3) August 23--Put out massive PR, at opening bell about O/S, Audit done, and moving to higher exchange, and fully reporting. 4) August 23--Watch MMs throw up, and prepare for a 12:00 P.M. trade resumption.
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In my opinion, suspending trading would be as bad as announcing a reverse split. What we need is the official audit. Nothing else will do.
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But I don't get your ways of thinking, explain it how you think you'll get them with their pants down (the MMs) ? if the MM's controls it, and the day from that audit 'll be released, it 'll run, and high it 'll be, he still be on short, a little bit, and after the run is on his end he'll get everything back, if he now shorts at 0.0014 and wen the run is out he'll never lose, because the run 'll go fast up, sow imagin the day of the audit it'll open at 0.0040 then his avg cost of his shorts is 0.0027 ( depents how many he'll short at 0.0040) I like to hear other toughts
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Hey all I posted a poll about outstanding shares to be reported. i hope you all will participate.
Thanks
Wang
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quote:Originally posted by Bigrod40: Betting Babe Simple...Heres an example 1) August 22-- Suspend trading before bell. 2) August 22--Issue PR stating "Trading to resume at 12:00 P.M. August 23. 3) August 23--Put out massive PR, at opening bell about O/S, Audit done, and moving to higher exchange, and fully reporting. 4) August 23--Watch MMs throw up, and prepare for a 12:00 P.M. trade resumption.
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trade suspension is not a bad idea. Bigrod, you suggested two days, can i request for two more day, please. we all know that all settlements is trading day+3. that case, we suspend for trading plus three more days; the transfer agent will know exact share counts after all settlements. by the fifth day, qbid would expose all naked short, then annouce all audit, exchange...then the mms would throw up to one another.
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BB, that is an interesting find on the PNN tv stuff. The first I have heard of them. I don't know if they are public or private. Do you?
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quote:Originally posted by 4Art: In my opinion, suspending trading would be as bad as announcing a reverse split. What we need is the official audit. Nothing else will do.
4Art Not if a positive audit was announced during the suspension. The stock would most likely open much higher following the announcement. I say "most likely" only because some shareholders would panic and immediately place standing sell orders at the resumed open . . . and the MMs would take advantiage of that if possible. Suspending trading is not "in place of" an audit announcement, it is "in preparation for" a positive audit announcement.
I have no idea if such a plan is possible or even feasible. I like it because I truly believe it would "punish" the market manipulators who are playing games with Q and preventing us from making some bank. But I could be wrong about that too. Never said I know it all . . . just said many times that I know what I believe and don't mind telling others.
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quote:Originally posted by Bottomliner: I like it because I truly believe it would "punish" the market manipulators who are playing games with Q and preventing us from making some bank.
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Sorry all, I did mean it to be Billions but i can't edit it any longer.
Again Sorry
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4art...if you would like to, that would be fine, i would probably mess it up again
quote:Originally posted by 4Art: You could start a new poll...
quote:Originally posted by Wangdo: Sorry all, I did mean it to be Billions but i can't edit it any longer.
Again Sorry
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quote:Originally posted by 4Art: In my opinion, suspending trading would be as bad as announcing a reverse split. What we need is the official audit. Nothing else will do.
4Art Not if a positive audit was announced during the suspension. The stock would most likely open much higher following the announcement. I say "most likely" only because some shareholders would panic and immediately place standing sell orders at the resumed open . . . and the MMs would take advantiage of that if possible. Suspending trading is not "in place of" an audit announcement, it is "in preparation for" a positive audit announcement.
I have no idea if such a plan is possible or even feasible. I like it because I truly believe it would "punish" the market manipulators who are playing games with Q and preventing us from making some bank. But I could be wrong about that too. Never said I know it all . . . just said many times that I know what I believe and don't mind telling others.
The TSE does it all the time before any major announcement. one of my holding uts.to, did it a few times as well. if q choose to do this, it's likely in favour of q and its shareholders. did Rod bring this subject up? good one.
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The original programing that could be syndicated could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars. My guess is that he will sell this company, then we will see the increased pps
If I was Frank I'd be thinkin how do I take the profits from this without giving them away to the shareholders. Like most of us would. thats why were in the dark on so many issues, he stays in controll.
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quote:Originally posted by shlik: less pps = less shares = sold shares,
The original programing that could be syndicated could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars. My guess is that he will sell this company, then we will see the increased pps
If I was Frank I'd be thinkin how do I take the profits from this without giving them away to the shareholders. Like most of us would. thats why were in the dark on so many issues, he stays in controll.
so what you said were screw the shareholders, take profit and run? your statement was full of stupidity. what do you do for a living?
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I too agree with this idea right at the time the audit is to be released. With trading suspened,the shorts will be stuck and can not do a thing until it resumes.If the interest is generated as most likely it will, There will be a few MM's loosing a fair chunk of change, based on what they have shorted.
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quote:Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:Originally posted by 4Art: In my opinion, suspending trading would be as bad as announcing a reverse split. What we need is the official audit. Nothing else will do.
4Art Not if a positive audit was announced during the suspension. The stock would most likely open much higher following the announcement. I say "most likely" only because some shareholders would panic and immediately place standing sell orders at the resumed open . . . and the MMs would take advantiage of that if possible. Suspending trading is not "in place of" an audit announcement, it is "in preparation for" a positive audit announcement.
I have no idea if such a plan is possible or even feasible. I like it because I truly believe it would "punish" the market manipulators who are playing games with Q and preventing us from making some bank. But I could be wrong about that too. Never said I know it all . . . just said many times that I know what I believe and don't mind telling others.
The TSE does it all the time before any major announcement. one of my holding uts.to, did it a few times as well. if q choose to do this, it's likely in favour of q and its shareholders. did Rod bring this subject up? good one.
quote:Originally posted by shlik: . . . If I was Frank I'd be thinkin how do I take the profits from this without giving them away to the shareholders.
shlik Help me understand this statement. Sounds like you believe Frank cannot get rich unless the shareholders lose everything. Am I misunderstanding you?
quote: . . . Like most of us would.
Maybe you would, but not me. Unless you can explain how Frank can win only if the shareholders lose? If I were Frank and had a chance to make . . . say, a few hundred million . . . I would want others to share the wealth. How much is enough? How much is your integrity worth?
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You're right, Bottomliner. How much would a company be worth after it duped its stockholders out of their money? Not much, IMO.
(Also see: Worldcom) LOL
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quote:Originally posted by shlik: . . . If I was Frank I'd be thinkin how do I take the profits from this without giving them away to the shareholders.
shlik Help me understand this statement. Sounds like you believe Frank cannot get rich unless the shareholders lose everything. Am I misunderstanding you?
quote: . . . Like most of us would.
Maybe you would, but not me. Unless you can explain how Frank can win only if the shareholders lose? If I were Frank and had a chance to make . . . say, a few hundred million . . . I would want others to share the wealth. How much is enough? How much is your integrity worth?
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Your plan is to buy low from some sucker,,who is an idiot for letting his Q shares go, Right? and sell high to some other sucker, Right?
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