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quote:
Originally posted by roadrunnerv8383:
QBID-a pinksheet stock with 50 billion authorized shares and an unknown O/S is why QBID is the worst investment you can make . . . etc, etc.

road
Please help me understand the reason for your post. I am sincerely interested in knowing why you believe QBID is a bad investment. And more importantly, I am interested in knowing why you keep telling us you believe QBID is a bad investment.

As I've said many times, I don't agree with your evaluation of QBID because I have done my own thorough analysis of QBID's vital statistics and keep arriving at the same positive conclusion about its future. You repeatedly point out that QBID is a "risky" investment . . . as though none of us understands risk. I for one understand the risks of investing very well. I consider myself an experienced and savvy investor. I also consider myself an experienced and savvy poker player, and stock investing and poker have a lot in common. Both involve weighing risk against reward, then making an informed decision (fold, check or raise). Sometimes you are right and sometimes wrong . . . and sometimes you are right but lose anyway. That's part of Investing (and Poker) 101.

You may be correct in your evaluation of QBID, but I seldom understand your arguments because they appear to be based on erroneous assumptions or misunderstanding of basic investment principles. An example is the "authorized share" debate. Choose any stocks you want (pink or blue chip) and I believe you will find that most companies have "authorized" many more shares than they intend to issue. There are many reasons for doing this, but you can research that on your own.

I am not here to argue with you. I just want to know why you feel the need to warn me about QBID. If you are trying to protect me . . . please stop. I'm a lot smarter than I look (IMHO, of course).

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This from the Boston Herald boasting an impossible number of people attracted to tis particular event.
BOSTON - A celebration of gay pride in Boston today.

The 35th annual Gay Pride Parade has revelers marching through Boston's South End to the Boston Common. Organizers say it's the largest such event in New England, attracting more than 400,000 people.

The parade caps a weeklong celebration of the gay community's strides in Massachusetts.

Participants this year are paying special attention to same-sex marriage -- which was legalized in Massachusetts more than a year ago.

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that's alot of people for an event. Which is good news for us

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How can there be 150,00 people requesting QTV. There was only 400,000+ people at the Boston event. Us QBID guys are crazy.
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quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
How can there be 150,000 [Roll Eyes] people requesting QTV. There was only 400,000+ people at the Boston event. Us QBID guys are crazy.


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I'm just guessing, but it could be safe to assume that at least a million people have heard of Q this month, if you count all of the events that they have participted in. I don't know that this is pumping. It sounds more like logic.
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See Ya'll
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quote:
Originally posted by Durple:
I think they won't do such a thing. I just don't think people should bash people who bring up this kind of stuff, because it is possible. I think people should be able to view all opinions without someone posting right after saying your a basher and a liar that's not possible. I did about 2 weeks worth of DD before I decided to get in. I took all views into consideration did research on things people considered bashing and looked to see how likely it could be. Most people on forums are not extremly well off and most have been burnt many times in the market. After the internet bubble we have only had less than half of all stocks go up so the %'s are not with us. If there is not an uptrend running by July 10th I'll probably be out and back in at a later date. June is gay pride month they should be able to get things squared away by the end of the month.

Durple
I agree everyone should be able to post a question or opinion without getting hammered unjustly, but I have to defend some "anti-basher" comments because a few negative posters keep coming back with the same comments over and over, even when proven wrong. They are like 3-year-olds who keep asking "why, why, why." After awhile, you just want to scream "because I said so" and hope they shut up. I know this is not the correct reaction, but it makes you feel better for a few minutes.

If we knew absolutely where QBID's PPS will be in the future, we could all relax and enjoy chatting. But uncertainty . . . and risk . . . makes us all a little edgy. When I am prompted to reply to a comment I think is "asinine", I always draft a response first, copy it to a Word file, wait at least 10 minutes, then edit it before posting . . . and sometimes I don't post it at all. Works pretty well to keep me from screaming "because I said so."

If we both own QBID stock, we must share some common goals, even if we don't always agree on how to achieve them. GLTY.

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quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
I'm just guessing, but it could be safe to assume that at least a million people have heard of Q this month, if you count all of the events that they have participted in. I don't know that this is pumping. It sounds more like logic.

DIG
Your logic sounds logical to me.

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lol QBID HAD A 900 % INCREASE FOR A SEC THEN FELL
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.0017 What the HELL

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Yeah, I was watching on Etrade when it jumped to .0190. It fell right back down to .0017. DOn't know what happened there [Confused]

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Time to buy more?
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quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by roadrunnerv8383:
QBID-a pinksheet stock with 50 billion authorized shares and an unknown O/S is why QBID is the worst investment you can make . . . etc, etc.

road
Please help me understand the reason for your post. I am sincerely interested in knowing why you believe QBID is a bad investment. And more importantly, I am interested in knowing why you keep telling us you believe QBID is a bad investment.

As I've said many times, I don't agree with your evaluation of QBID because I have done my own thorough analysis of QBID's vital statistics and keep arriving at the same positive conclusion about its future. You repeatedly point out that QBID is a "risky" investment . . . as though none of us understands risk. I for one understand the risks of investing very well. I consider myself an experienced and savvy investor. I also consider myself an experienced and savvy poker player, and stock investing and poker have a lot in common. Both involve weighing risk against reward, then making an informed decision (fold, check or raise). Sometimes you are right and sometimes wrong . . . and sometimes you are right but lose anyway. That's part of Investing (and Poker) 101.

You may be correct in your evaluation of QBID, but I seldom understand your arguments because they appear to be based on erroneous assumptions or misunderstanding of basic investment principles. An example is the "authorized share" debate. Choose any stocks you want (pink or blue chip) and I believe you will find that most companies have "authorized" many more shares than they intend to issue. There are many reasons for doing this, but you can research that on your own.

I am not here to argue with you. I just want to know why you feel the need to warn me about QBID. If you are trying to protect me . . . please stop. I'm a lot smarter than I look (IMHO, of course).

What makes this stock (or any non-reporting stock)risky is that you do not have access to the balance sheet. That's what makes it high risk IMO
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anyone get filled at .0018? also, anyone else with E-turd still not showing yesterday's PR?

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E*Trade still not showing yesterday's PR

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What do you mean?

Q Television is all over the place.

I have two gay friends that talk non-stop about the new "happenings" in the gay crowd, and chat on chat channels they show me people talking about it on there.

When I tell people how cheap the stock is and give them my estimation of its true value, I have people asking me if they can just "give me money" and I'll invest it for them. I tell them that I can't, and they understand, but they are very surprised at the valuation.

I seriously think that Frank needs to address the dilution issue immediately. There are only two reasons the stock would be going down, folks, and we need to get Frank and Richard to be honest about it. Dilution and/or MM manipulation.

I would like to have Frank confirm that he is not diluting, I'd like to see the Transfer Agent ungagged, and I'd damn well like to know how many OS there are. Yes, there are reasons to be bullish, but Frank needs to immediately address why the PPS has dropped so bad. We are hitting all new lows here, and we know it's not us selling, so who the fSck is it, Frank?

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thought this was a block of strange trades one trade on top of the other....
14:18:46
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weirddddddDD

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Anyone else notice that we have had an awfully low volume for today (usually Fridays are at least a 100 mil) I don't know if we'll break that today, though.

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A CHALLANGE FOR ALL INVESTERS
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About a week ago, I posted what I think are
keys for QTV (and us) to succeed
(http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/8/t/014414/p/7.html? ).
I believe that the "buzz" about QTV is getting
very strong. As some have said, QTV "seems to be everywhere".
While we are waiting for a major PR, I would like to challenge
investors to post in this forum any web sites (URL's) they have
found that has a QTV banner-logo or the Gay Games logo (QTV is
front and center when anyone clicks on the Gay Games logo).
No articles please.

This will give us a pretty good idea on how far the QTV "buzz" has been spread.

Here is a start:

http://www.qtelevision.com/main/

http://www.gaygameschicago.org/

http://www.gaygameschicago.org/partners/home.php

NOTE: the above link has FIFTY+ "partners" URL's listed with most
Having a link back to the games

http://www.eurogames.info/2005/index.html

http://pinkmag.com/

http://www.gaygames.com/en/

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Anyone want a job working for Q Television?

http://www.entertainmentcareers.net/jobid.asp?jcode=37523

http://providence.craigslist.org/tfr/78633847.html

Who the hell is the private investor that is funding all this?

Remember just a scant 6 months ago when we were struggling to find any mention of Q in the news or online?

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/010695-18.html

I do.

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to the shot up in pps to .019 today that's call the fat finger. Someone forgot to put another 0 in there it was for 5k shares.

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quote:
Originally posted by Durple:
to the shot up in pps to .019 today that's call the fat finger. Someone forgot to put another 0 in there it was for 5k shares.

I always feel bad for the poor folks that accidently do that. Unless they are MMs.

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Hi all. Anyone have L2's?

Thanks......

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quote:
Originally posted by g-invest:

Who the hell is the private investor that is funding all this?....My guess, Sumner Redstone!

Remember just a scant 6 months ago when we were struggling to find any mention of Q in the news or online?

I do....I do too



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Nothing like huge exposure to help ignite a fuse!

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Calm before the storm my friends!

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quote:
Originally posted by Bottomliner:
quote:
Originally posted by roadrunnerv8383:
QBID-a pinksheet stock with 50 billion authorized shares and an unknown O/S is why QBID is the worst investment you can make . . . etc, etc.

road
Please help me understand the reason for your post. I am sincerely interested in knowing why you believe QBID is a bad investment. And more importantly, I am interested in knowing why you keep telling us you believe QBID is a bad investment.

As I've said many times, I don't agree with your evaluation of QBID because I have done my own thorough analysis of QBID's vital statistics and keep arriving at the same positive conclusion about its future. You repeatedly point out that QBID is a "risky" investment . . . as though none of us understands risk. I for one understand the risks of investing very well. I consider myself an experienced and savvy investor. I also consider myself an experienced and savvy poker player, and stock investing and poker have a lot in common. Both involve weighing risk against reward, then making an informed decision (fold, check or raise). Sometimes you are right and sometimes wrong . . . and sometimes you are right but lose anyway. That's part of Investing (and Poker) 101.

You may be correct in your evaluation of QBID, but I seldom understand your arguments because they appear to be based on erroneous assumptions or misunderstanding of basic investment principles. An example is the "authorized share" debate. Choose any stocks you want (pink or blue chip) and I believe you will find that most companies have "authorized" many more shares than they intend to issue. There are many reasons for doing this, but you can research that on your own.

I am not here to argue with you. I just want to know why you feel the need to warn me about QBID. If you are trying to protect me . . . please stop. I'm a lot smarter than I look (IMHO, of course).

Don't worry about roadrunner. He is just here to cause trouble. Do you really think he cares that much about other people's money? LOL! Just remember, he was once a long term holder of QBID and was never really any good at predicting anything. He was on here last time the stock was at these prices and said he would buy back in at .0015, but the stock took off to .0057. He pops up every now and then when he needs cheap shares.
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quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
Calm before the storm my friends!

I bought this stock back at .0024, when the only exposure Q had was a top ten list mention on the Dave Letterman show. News of private investors and 30,000 people saying "I want my QTV!" from their first road show drove it to .0055. I sold around .0046 just because I was only in this short term.

In just 4 short months since, QTV is pratically a gay household term, they are at nearly every gay pride event in the nation, and new and LIVE shows run on a daily basis. This is not a sign of a fledgling and floundering network, struggling to get word of itself out anymore. It's a network that is determined to show its professionalism and has a team that is willing to put in the extra effort to do so.

It wouldn't surprise me if there are some "in-the-closet" carriers/networks that are threatened by Viacom's entry into the market on June 30th, and have been doing behind-the-back deals with Q Television. Even more suggesting of this is Frank's reluctance to talk about it, citing that he doesn't want to make the same mistake he once made with DISH about carrying the program.

This stock is definitely not trading above 15 billion shares, they should immediately request that the authorized shares be notched back down to 15 billion so that the bashers don't have such an easy time trying to scare people away.

If there's anything making this stock sink, it's fear.

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quote:
Originally posted by Taterhead:
What makes this stock (or any non-reporting stock)risky is that you do not have access to the balance sheet. That's what makes it high risk IMO

Taterhead
I totally agree with you. And most (all?) pinks are high risk for the same reasons.

My questions for roadrunner are primarily concerned with why he keeps telling us QBID is high risk. I think most (all?) the posters here already know it's high risk and have accepted that risk due to the potential rewards. We "may" end up being wrong, but we've already decided to play our hands to the river (more poker terms), and we don't really need someone screaming every day that the sky is falling. If we are wrong, we lose some money. But what if we're right? The potential is huge.

I knew the risk when I bought my first QBID share, but I made a conscious decision to take a chance because I believed the risk-reward ratio was acceptable. And I still do.

As I said, I agree with you about the risk and appreciate your opinion. By the way, I'm also having fun . . . chasing rainbows is always a blast.

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quote:
I knew the risk when I bought my first QBID share, but I made a conscious decision to take a chance because I believed the risk-reward ratio was acceptable. And I still do.
I take a similar outlook. As a long term investor, I ask myself this: "If I were to leave the forums and market and come back to this stock in one year, assuming that I had to choose one or the other: would the PPS be higher or lower than today's closing price?"

Knowing all that I do about QBID I can pretty assuredly know that in a year they will easily have at least one national carrier and will be the only reasonable alternative to LOGO. they'll be fighting a pretty fierce battle for market share competing with LOGO, hereTV, and several new smaller carriers that are trying to get in on the US GLBT network programming arena. Forum talk will be about finding "the next QBID" among those smaller carriers.

This will almost certainly be trading higher next year. Everyone knows it, but they are only trying to get into QBID for a "quick bounce". Let me tell you right now, when this does its next bounce into the penny range, it's not going to come back down. There will be no more chances to "get back in" after a carrier announcement is made. From that point on, it'll only be a steady PPS increase of a growing stock. Then we'll probably see a reverse split timed with a new listing on the Amex.

NOTE: I know Frank has said there will be no reverse split, but what he's really saying is that there won't be on the Pink Sheets. Everyone knows Pink Sheets that don't reverse split are rare, so QBID is one of those rarities. Once he intends to move to a new exchange he's pretty much going to HAVE to do a R/S though. And that's okay.

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quote:
Originally posted by kencoda:
A CHALLANGE FOR ALL INVESTERS
-----------------------------------------------------
About a week ago, I posted what I think are
keys for QTV (and us) to succeed
(http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/8/t/014414/p/7.html? ).
I believe that the "buzz" about QTV is getting
very strong. As some have said, QTV "seems to be everywhere".
While we are waiting for a major PR, I would like to challenge
investors to post in this forum any web sites (URL's) they have
found that has a QTV banner-logo or the Gay Games logo (QTV is
front and center when anyone clicks on the Gay Games logo).
No articles please.

This will give us a pretty good idea on how far the QTV "buzz" has been spread.

Here is a start:

http://www.qtelevision.com/main/

http://www.gaygameschicago.org/

http://www.gaygameschicago.org/partners/home.php

NOTE: the above link has FIFTY+ "partners" URL's listed with most
Having a link back to the games

http://www.eurogames.info/2005/index.html

http://pinkmag.com/

http://www.gaygames.com/en/

Good post kenkoda. Last year ATL pride was 300k visitors. It was low due to rain. BTW Look for the QTN banner.
http://www.atlantapride.org/about/info/
http://www.atlantapride.org/stages/schedule/2005_QTV.php
http://www.atlantapride.org/stages/schedule/

Look at who is hosting the Coca Cola stage.
Q has their own stage .

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U4DIPUTSOT WHY DO YOU HAVE TO TWIST THE FACTS.

WHERE DOES IT DAY THAT Q STAFF RECIEVED THE CALLS?

LOOK AT THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS. THE CARRIERS HAVE MASSIVE CALL CENTERS AND CAN LOG EVERYTHING FROM HOW LONG THE CALL TAKES TO HOW MANY CALLS PER HOUR THE CLERKS TAKE. THEY COULD VERY WELL TAKE ALL THESE CALLS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.


PALM SPRINGS, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 16, 2005--Q TELEVISION NETWORK (OTCBB Other: QBID), the television network for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered community, announced today that they have received over 150,000 separate requests from potential subscribers during the east coast pride festivals.
"These individual documented requests have come from people attending the gay pride festivals in Boston, Atlanta and Orlando," said Frank Olsen, President and CEO of Q Television Network. "The carriers in these areas have been inundated with requests demanding that Q Television be shown in their area. We are in contact with the carriers and they are very excited about the programming. We know June will be an explosive month for us, and we are confident that Q Television will have similar success as we head to the west coast this week."

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Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.

This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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The truth isnt always kind


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Originally posted by HILANDER:
LMAO, good one Winsum. But that isn't very nice.



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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Jen they come and go. they dont make much progress here so they give up.

thier goal is to stop all discussion on the stock and spread crap. it you cant find the good new for all the crap people loose confidence.

on some boards they do a really good job of spreading the crap. here people stick together and squash it.

Rod

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Originally posted by Jennifercd10:
I left the RB site because of the bashers and now they are here. I will not leave here. I will try to ignor them and continue to contribute what I can. I hope to have Pic's from my brother later today. This is my home and the hateful ones will not drive me out of it!



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Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.

This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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