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Rod I am excited as well. Our Patience soon will pay off! Q is going to be huge. The puzzle is coming together nicely. Frank and team knows exactly what they are doing. Every where I see looks like green to me!!! LOL
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This is not my doing but a cut and paste I saved from another board a while back. The numbers may be changed but the math should make your projection close:
If you hate math...skip this post...
I just got back from dinner with some fellow QBID investors. The topic of QBID's future pps popped up...and from our discussion...this is what we came up with...keep in mind that three of the other investors are very conservative engineers...You should have seen the table clothe when we were done...chicken scratch everywhere...lol
1 Year PPS projection
20-30 Million Gays and Lesbians in the US (that are out of the closet...this is a very conservative stat)
3% ROI (marketing effort)= 900,000 subscribers by year 1
900,000 x $9.95 = $8,955,000 x 50% (industry standard...cable companies cut) = $4,477,500/mo or $53,730,000/year
Advertisment/Founding Sponsor program...20 spots at $250,000 per advertiser or $5,000,000/year
Industry average is $2,500.00 per commercial x 8-10 commercials per hour or $20,000 per hour x 8760 hours per year (24/7 programming) = $175,200,000/year
Total Revenue
$53,730,000 (subscription per year based on 900K subscribers by year 1) $5,000,000 (Founding Sponsor program based on 20 spots) $175,200,000 (Commercials based on Industry standards of $2500 per commercial/8-10 per hour...24/7 programming)
Total Revenue by year 1
$233,930,000/year
Expenses (assuming 40%)
$93,572,000
Net Operating Income
$140,358,000
Per-share earnings
$140,358,000 / 4.5 Billion (assuming 9 Billion OS...after buyback of 50%) = .0311 earnings per share
assuming a very conservative (S&P) PE ratio of 18 and 20...
P/E of 18 = .56 pps P/E of 20 = .62 pps
However...QBID is a very speculative stock...and could possibly have a P/E ratio of 30, 40 or 50...
P/E of 30 = .93 pps (our pick by year 1) P/E of 40 = $1.24 pps P/E of 50 = $1.55 pps
We agreed that a PE ratio of 30 was very conservative for such a speculative stock...if QBID's soft launch goes off without a hitch...and they PR a major advertiser within one week of the soft launch...our views of QBID being a short term hold will change...we would consider holding a position long term (1-3 years)
.93 x 4.5 Billion = $4.185 Billion Market cap...
At this stage of the game the market cap is the value that the world of stock market investors has placed on the company (at least for today) Much of this perceived value is due to the expectations of a company's future prospects. Market cap is not dictated by how "big" a company is.
Here are some related links on advertising and calculating PE ratios...
quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Bill Craig of Pridevision/ OutTV better come crawling to Frank soon as his programming for the new OutTv is very skimpy at best. Looks like he is having trouble filling the time slots.
IMO that is where the "Q" comes in and provides the original programming that will be needed to fill Mr. Craig's schedule Remember the "Q" did sign some sort of intent with Mr. Craig.
Waiting for a good PR on Monday and at the latest Tuesday but most likely Monday
Go QBID!!!!!! Bring On The Green.
Just wanted to move this forward
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Okay so I sent this e-mail to Wendy Donnan at OutTV this morning and here is her reply. I was very surprised to get this reply so fast
Rock on "Q" rock on.
Hello, Wayne.. you may get your wish! We are currently in discussions with QTV to exchange a branded block of programming that will air on each others networks.. They have sent us material to review which I am in the process of doing. Thanks for taking the time to email! Wendy Wendy Donnan Director of Programming and Operations
6166954 Canada Inc. "OUTtv" and "HARD on PrideVision" 491 Church Street Suite 200 Toronto, Ontario M4Y 2C6
call 1-877- PRIDE TV or your local cable or satellite provider and subscribe to PrideVision TV today! ----- Original Message ----- From: Doctoall To: inquiries@pridevisiontv.com Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Q Television
Dear Mr. Craig: I would truly appreciate it if your new television company OutTV would start carrying the original programming of Q Television out of Palm Springs. I am a viewer of Q and I must say that their programming is awesome. I feel that the Canadian viewers would truly appreciate what this company has done to promote the GBLT life style.
Please consider carrying the “Q”. I am confident that your company stands to gain by the broadcasting of Q Television.
Respectfully Submitted
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I hated math but like your calculation very much...holy chit, i can payoff my mortage and have some $$ set aside...i would not mind with the lowest ratio.
quote:Originally posted by buckwheatbob: P/E of 30 = .93 pps (our pick by year 1) P/E of 40 = $1.24 pps P/E of 50 = $1.55 pps
We agreed that a PE ratio of 30 was very conservative for such a speculative stock...if QBID's soft launch goes off without a hitch...and they PR a major advertiser within one week of the soft launch...our views of QBID being a short term hold will change...we would consider holding a position long term (1-3 years)
.93 x 4.5 Billion = $4.185 Billion Market cap...
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What is the most shares a R/S could do? If you had 1,000,000 shares,could it do a R/S of 1,000,000 to 1.........Thanks,casper..[Bob]
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quote:Originally posted by casper: What is the most shares a R/S could do? If you had 1,000,000 shares,could it do a R/S of 1,000,000 to 1.........Thanks,casper..[Bob]
Casper for the last time there is "not" going to be a R/S with QBID. If you think that there is going to be, let me buy your shares now so that you don't loose later. I want more shares
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quote:Originally posted by casper: DOC....No way tou are going to buy my shares...[NOT FOR SALE]...Thanks for the reply...Bob
Now thats more like it. Hang on to your shares and be positive about the "Q". This stock is going to bring you some serious bank. Long and holding here to the very end.
GO QBID!!!!! Lets see the green
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Remember the post from some time ago. In order for Frank to take this company to another exchange there has to be a huge amount of business going on. If I remember right in order for a company to be on the NYSE, the company has to have 500 million in sales. What exchange would he take it to to really add some clout to the company other than an exchange like the NYSE. Q's not even close to 500 million in sales so the NYSE is out...I would think? Anyone hear what exchange he hopes to move to?
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quote:Originally posted by deepockets: Remember the post from some time ago. In order for Frank to take this company to another exchange there has to be a huge amount of business going on. If I remember right in order for a company to be on the NYSE, the company has to have 500 million in sales. What exchange would he take it to to really add some clout to the company other than an exchange like the NYSE. Q's not even close to 500 million in sales so the NYSE is out...I would think? Anyone hear what exchange he hopes to move to?
quote:Originally posted by deepockets: Remember the post from some time ago. In order for Frank to take this company to another exchange there has to be a huge amount of business going on. If I remember right in order for a company to be on the NYSE, the company has to have 500 million in sales. What exchange would he take it to to really add some clout to the company other than an exchange like the NYSE. Q's not even close to 500 million in sales so the NYSE is out...I would think? Anyone hear what exchange he hopes to move to?
Do you know something about the "Q" revenue that we don't know. Do you think that he gave our programming to Pridevision/OutTV, think again!!!
Just have to wait a bit longer, now that he is going to start reporting both the share count and revenue will have to be disclosed. I am willing to bet that we are all going to be very surprised about the revenue "Q" has
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quote:Originally posted by jackpot: Okay - no one has said anything about Oxygen channel advertisment. Was it on? No ? Yes? Probably no , right?
Read the thread not expected before the 21st April
Your post sure don't scare me, but to tell the truth when I think of Jack POT I think of something else that goes in the pot, and that is what you are spreading.
The "Q" will pay big bank, do yourself a favor get some.
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Long time reader, first time poster . . . QBID is my first long term investment, so I only hold a quarter million shares, but the math and PRs have got me too excited to keep quiet anymore. I like where this is going, and I hope I see some of you ahead of me in line at the bank.
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http://www.tangobluesentertainment.com/news.htm Tango Blues Entertainment announces four-year broadcast deal for Coors Cup Hockey Tournament with Q Television Network in negotiations for North American broadcast telvision rights
April 13th, 2005 (Hollywood, CA) – Tango Blues Entertainment (TBE) announced a four-year broadcast licensing deal with the Los Angeles Blades, Inc. and the Colorado Gay Ice Hockey Association (CGIHA) for the annual Coors Cup Hockey Tournament. Under the terms of the agreement, all Coors Cup Hockey Tournament broadcast rights are granted to Tango Blues Entertainment for this annual event through 2008. The deal calls for TBE to produce and distribute events to broadcast television, Internet, radio, home video, DVD and other ancillary content to promote the growth of the sport and visibility of the event in the gay community. The Q Television Network, home of the Gay Games VII broadcast, is currently in negotiations with Tango Blues Entertainment for the North American television broadcast rights to the Coors Cup.
The Coors Cup brings the excitement of hockey to the gay community with a weekend full of competition on the ice. The Coors Cup is in it’s second year, bringing more then a dozen gay hockey teams with over 150 participants from throughout the US, Canada and Europe together to compete in a professional forum. Over 150 league members, both men and women, compete in three divisions for the Coors Cup. Each of the winning divisional teams receives a donation of $1000 to the team’s charity of choice, courtesy of title sponsor Coors Brewing Company.
"This is a unique broadcast deal, and we are very proud to be a part of it," said Andrew Briskin, President and CEO of Tango Blues Entertainment. "The Coors Cup Hockey Tournament is one of the largest gay hockey competitions in North America, with over a dozen teams competing on different levels for a good cause. Our goal in obtaining these rights is to bring exciting and unique gay-oriented sporting events to the forefront of the community, providing packaged television, Internet and radio content for the emerging gay media outlets to take advantage of. "
“The LA Blades are very excited to be in partnership with Tango Blues to film the Coors Cup II Labor Day ice hockey tournament” states Brynne Van Putten, “We feel the event will capture the excitement and camaraderie that occurs on and off the ice. Broadcast exposure will allow others to experience the thrill of victory and an inside look at players and fans. This will truly be an event like no other.”
"This agreement will benefit not just the Coors Cup but I believe it can benefit GLBT sports in general," said Andrew Winsett, president of the CGIHA. "With broadcast quality production values and professionalism, Tango Blues gives the tournament a platform to show the GLBT athletic community that events such as this are even more exciting, rewarding and commercially viable than ever imagined."
“Q Television Network feels this event will be another jewel in our crown, bringing the community to the community.” stated Steven Grunberg, Executive Vice President of Programming for Q Television Network.
North America’s only gay charity hockey championships, the Coors Cup alternates between venues in Denver, Colorado and Los Angeles, California. This year’s Coors Cup II is held in El Segundo, California, from September 2 nd – 5 th. The $24 million dollar HealthSouth Training Center facility, practice center for professional hockey team the L.A. Kings, provides for a spectacular broadcast facility and venue for this exciting gay entertainment and sports event. In 2006 the Coors Cup takes a hiatus during the Gay Games, followed in 2007 with a return to Denver, Colorado and the home of the CGIHA .
For more information, licensing, sponsorship and general information please contact Andrew Briskin at Tango Blues Entertainment at 323-469-8022 x1# or by e-mail coorscup@tangobluesentertainment.com.
Tango Blues Entertainment: Involved in the production industry for over 11 years, Tango Blues Entertainment began as a animal services company for feature films from Ace Ventura: Pet Detective staring Jim Carrey and The Specialist with Sylvester Stallone & Sharon Stone to Miami Rhapsody with Sarah Jessica Parker & Gil Bellows. Tango Blues Entertainment has produced for publications such as L'Uomo Vogue , W and Interview to campaigns for Abercrombie & Fitch, ENYCE, and Perry Ellis with photographers Bruce Weber, Kelly Klein and Karl Simone. Commercial spots include campaigns for Levis (Europe), Ethan Allen, Mitsubishi, Ford and McDonalds (Latin America). Television programming credits include the British television documentary Fabulous (Sky TV) about circuit party culture, and the gay stand-up comedy series Laugh Out Loud . Tango Blues Entertainment recently co-executive produced the maxi-single from Debby Holiday titled Dive . The single hit #5 on the Billboard Dance charts, with Holiday’s follow-up single Half A Mile Away recently hitting Top 10 status on the Billboard dance charts.
LA Blades, Inc.: Founded in 1985, the Los Angeles Blades, a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization, was the first openly gay men's and women's ice hockey club in the United States. The LA Blades hockey teams compete in the Pacific Coast Hockey League (PCHL) and have a strong winning tradition that includes: the 2001-2002 PCHL Level 3 Winter Championship; the gold medal in the 1998 Toronto Friendship tournament; playing for the Bronze in the 1998 Gay Games in Amsterdam; and silver medals in 1998 at Seattle Slide for Pride tournament; the 1994 Gay Games in New York and 1990 Gay Games in Vancouver, B.C., Canada.
Colorado Gay Ice Hockey Association: Founded in 2001, the Denver-based Colorado Gay Ice Hockey Association (CGIHA) is a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization whose mission is to train GLBT hockey players for national and international competition in an environment free from all forms of harassment and discrimination, and which encourages fair play, openness, and friendship; and to provide a compelling and social atmosphere which promotes the growth of leadership, coaching, and playing skills. The CGIHA overseas the Coors Light Colorado Climax hockey teams which participate as openly gay teams in mainstream leagues and in North American tournaments. Colorado Climax hockey teams have won two league divisional championships; four North American tournament medals including three gold medals and one bronze medal; and a silver medal at the 2002 Gay Games VI in Sydney, Australia. Colorado Climax teams have been featured in local and national media including magazines, radio and newspapers. In 2002, the Colorado Climax was named one of the top ten GLBT sports teams in the US by www.outsports.com.
Coors Brewing Company: Coors Brewing company is a subsidiary of Molson Coors Brewing Company. The Golden, Colo.-based Coors is the third-largest brewer in the United States. The company’s portfolio of products includes Coors Light, the third-largest-selling beer in the US. Coors Brewing Company has a long record of support for the GLBT community and actively promotes diversity in the workplace. In 1978 the company adopted a non-discrimination policy based on sexual orientation. Coors was the first major brewery to offer same-sex Domestic Partner benefits. In 1993 the company founded LAGER, a GLBT employee group that received the Colorado Human Rights Campaign Award in 2001. Fortune magazine named Coors among Americas 50 best companies for minorities.
Q Television Network: This television network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Q Television Network is the Network for the Gay Games VII. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.
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QBID Meets with Counsel to Discuss Exchange Thursday February 17, 4:21 pm ET
Triangle Multi-Media Begins Final Steps to Become a Fully Reporting Company Monday April 18, 3:45 pm ET
This has been in the work since feb 05 and now qbid is finalizing the steps...almost two months. just a feeling that the announcement is just around the corner. hey Doc, what is your gutt feeling telling you?
Come on, sell sell sell...
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I hate to spit in your drink, but my cable company is offering a gay and lesbian channel... but it's not QBID. It's LOGO. I think you guys missed the boat.
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quote:Originally posted by Apenorm57: I hate to spit in your drink, but my cable company is offering a gay and lesbian channel... but it's not QBID. It's LOGO. I think you guys missed the boat.
And I hate to spit back in yours, but I don't believe you. LOGO has not even launched yet.
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quote:Originally posted by Apenorm57: I hate to spit in your drink, but my cable company is offering a gay and lesbian channel... but it's not QBID. It's LOGO. I think you guys missed the boat.
Why wait for a boat when you are sailing on a cruise ship
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quote:Originally posted by Apenorm57: I hate to spit in your drink, but my cable company is offering a gay and lesbian channel... but it's not QBID. It's LOGO. I think you guys missed the boat.
There is another gay and lesbian channel out there called LOGO? NO WAY! When did this happen? How come no one here even knows about it or mentions it? How could I invest in a company that has competition? The horror!
(If you are new to the board please ignore the silly people posting bad news and trying to scare you about QBID. I will bet it gets worse for a few days again. Do your own research... ask questions... read this entire thread and more... there are people on here that know so much about Q that you would swear they are sleeping with Frank! Do all this and you will probably come out with the same conclusion many of us have already. This is a stock to buy!)
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