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I'm suggesting that Frank has not delivered on his big project plans. Making a bid on something doesn't mean you own it. I think it was a PR to stop the bleeding. The timing of the PR was strange as well. (Friday afternoon?? why not Monday) A weekend PR that can't be measured by the pps.
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quote:Originally posted by newbie do: I'm suggesting that Frank has not delivered on his big project plans. Making a bid on something doesn't mean you own it. I think it was a PR to stop the bleeding. The timing of the PR was strange as well. (Friday afternoon?? why not Monday) A weekend PR that can't be measured by the pps.
Interesting take on Friday...Of course I disagree...and...I am confused how you come to this conclusion. An attempt to acquire is a huge undertaking.
You don't just see it in the classified section of the newspaper, call the number and make a low ball offer on a property like you would buying a car. You just don't wake up one morning and decide to acquire another company. You certainly don't see a PPS decrease and decide to put out a PR of this magnitude overnight...Not to be insulting but yout post is uninformed and immature in it's assumptions.
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quote:Originally posted by newbie do: I'm suggesting that Frank has not delivered on his big project plans. Making a bid on something doesn't mean you own it. I think it was a PR to stop the bleeding. The timing of the PR was strange as well. (Friday afternoon?? why not Monday) A weekend PR that can't be measured by the pps.
Interesting take on Friday...Of course I disagree...and...I am confused how you come to this conclusion. An attempt to acquire is a huge undertaking.
You don't just see it in the classified section of the newspaper, call the number and make a low ball offer on a property like you would buying a car. You just don't wake up one morning and decide to acquire another company. You certainly don't see a PPS decrease and decide to put out a PR of this magnitude overnight...Not to be insulting but yout post is uninformed and immature in it's assumptions.
I'm not insluted at all. I think Frank is pulling the wool over investors' eye's with another one of his PR's Again, just because you bid doesn't mean you own. I made an "immature" buy when I assumed that there would be additional carriers and now it looks like that's just smoke comming out of Frank's pipe.
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Hey Newbie... If you do own shares if QBID...you may want to consider a more optomistic view from a business perspective. I can hear resentment of Frank in your posts. If you took Frank (the personal issues some folks have) out of the equasion would this attempted aquisition make sense to you? Would it be in line with a corporate expansion plan? Would you see it as manipulation? If you want your investment to give you a reasonable return you may want to consider looking at the glass half full. You may enjoy the financial return more than if you continue looking at it half empty. Your posts would also be considered in a more serious light if you get past the resentment and do some DD on the attempted aquisition, as well as other significant events in the companies expansion plans. You may end up right if this company does not follow through on it's business plan. If you decide to go the sceptical route then please back up your posts with some DD that proves your theories. I'll listen to that but not to unreasonable resentments
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newbie... I don't post much on here or any other board...but I do read this board religously, reading every post since Feb/04. Your un-qualified suggestive rhetoric leads me to believe that you may be a newly elected politician, quite possibly at the bottom of the pecking order.The spin that you want to put on Franks offer and PR are nothing more than an attempt to gain attention thru negativity. You are in-experienced as a politician,in-experienced in life and and have very little experience if any at doing your own DD. You have nothing worth while to contribute to this board. It would be my suggestion to you, that you sit back,read and absorb the information provided on this board and learn something before you are so eager to leap into the forum and allow your alligator mouth to overide your hummingbird a**. Best of luck newbie in your endeavors....John
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quote:Originally posted by 2crazynuts: newbie... I don't post much on here or any other board...but I do read this board religously, reading every post since Feb/04. Your un-qualified suggestive rhetoric leads me to believe that you may be a newly elected politician, quite possibly at the bottom of the pecking order.The spin that you want to put on Franks offer and PR are nothing more than an attempt to gain attention thru negativity. You are in-experienced as a politician,in-experienced in life and and have very little experience if any at doing your own DD. You have nothing worth while to contribute to this board. It would be my suggestion to you, that you sit back,read and absorb the information provided on this board and learn something before you are so eager to leap into the forum and allow your alligator mouth to overide your hummingbird a**. Best of luck newbie in your endeavors....John
Spoken like a true Politician. (I forgot you are not suppose to voice an opinion on this board)
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Thanks for helping me understand your comments. Let me share some of my thoughts. Maybe they will address your doubts about QBID's progress. I am not trying to change your mind, just trying to help us all understand QBID better:
1) If pinksheet stocks are regulated the same as "normal" stocks, SEC rules would prohibit Frank and his staff from buying or selling shares as you have suggested. Insiders (anyone with knowledge of a company's activities that are NOT available to the general public) cannot buy or sell shares without formally announcing their intentions to the SEC about six months in advance. As I say, pinksheets may be exempt from this rule, but I doubt it. 2) You are correct that bidding on something does not constitute a "done deal". And we will have to wait and see where this goes. But if you own any QBID shares, the potential of such a deal is very positive. Buying shares in any company is a gamble because we seldom (I really mean "never") know what the future will bring us. If you really don't want to gamble, you should not buy stock in ANY company. 3) I also agree that some of Frank's plans have not happened as his PRs stated and we all want to know why not. The most negative answer is that Frank "lied", which I don't believe. The next most negative answer is that Frank wasn't able to do what he hoped to do, at least not WHEN he hoped to do it. And again, we have to ask why not? If it was due to his inability to do it right, that is a negative. If it was due to unforeseeable events, that is just a fact of business life, and anyone who says "good companies" don't have these problems obviously never worked in the real world. Since we don't have the answers to "why not?", let's have some faith in Frank and let him prove himself to us before we lynch him. I think he will succeed, but if not, I will bring the rope and choose the tree. 4) Why do you question the timing of this PR? If it had been released at Friday's market open, we might have seen more upside movement yesterday, but why would Monday be a better release day, or Tuesday, or Wednesday. We can all choose the day and time we think would have been the best time to release this PR, but who would be right? Maybe Frank will help us understand next week. Until then, I don't have a problem with the PR or the time it was released. In fact, I rather liked the timing, because I think it generated a reasonable PPS spike without creating huge daytrader selloffs. It also has given investors time to analyze the news before deciding what to do on Monday. Some will rush to buy, some will rush to sell, some will continue to wait. But at least they have time to think about it. 5) Now for your last comment about not being able to trust Frank ("Frank's PR's can be trusted about as far as you could throw him. If you can get him off the ground). Questioning everything you read is very practical and commendable. However, accusing someone of "dishonesty" without proof is irresponsible and libelous. And attacking Frank's personal appearance or personal qualities is simply childish.
I look forward to your reply. I respect everyone's right to express their opinions, and I try to understand their point of view even I disagee. And I also try to do so politely and respectfully. Please do me the courtesy of responding in the same way.
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newbie do I can't wait for your reply to my first message because I have to add something about your response to 2Crazynuts:
You said: "... I forgot you are not suppose to voice an opinion on this board".
And that is totally untrue. Just do so responsibly. We value all opinions, but please 1) explain why you think as you do. 2) be polite. 3) be willing to listen to opposing viewpoints 4) say please and thank you.
Pretty much the same rules we all learned in kindergarten.
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newbie do I have one more comment for you, and it is very POSITIVE:
You said: "I guess time will tell. Let's see what happens on Monday."
You've nailed it. This is exactly what we all have to do. An excellent comment reflecting an intelligent and realistic observation. And NO ONE should disagree with it.
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Well good morning my fellow "Qbiddians", the weather in Palm Springs today is not that great, rain showers are not going to make my week very enjoyable. The weather on Thur/Fri was great as was the PR released on Friday.
It looks like Monday will be a sunny day and should be very very enjoyable. Have to hang out at the hotel this week-end but there's always lots to do.
Very excited about being a "Q" shareholder, long and holding here for the bank.
GO QBID!!!!!! Bring On The Green
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It's no wonder that NEWBES are confused. They haven't had the time to keep up with what's going on.
Some would ask why would Frank wait till now to make an offer? Some might think this is just another PR to stop the bleeding so to speak.
Maybe it is & maybe it worked.
Then again maybe there's alot more to the timing than the some of you realize!
Who knows? Maybe Frank heard the same news that a few others heard!!!!!!!!!
Maybe he paid attention & being as shrewd an oportunstic person that he is,,, maybe he decides to buy something when he is barganing from a position of total strength.
Frank knows that the guy who owns PRIDE is in a bitter divorce in court & that he's likely to lose. And lose PRIDE in the process which just so happens to be his last remaining asset that's worth anything.He also knows PRIDE didn't do so great in the US markets begause they've come to be know for exercise shows & reruns. Frank has the answer to that problem
Looks to me like Frank is in a position to buy a total uncontested lead in this market for a paltry couple million bucks.
Who knows, maybe, after Frank pays a possible settlement of a tiny 1.4 million he throws some more into the pot to sweeten the deal. Maybe Frank will even offer the guy some extra restricted shares & allow him a VP position in "QPRIDE GLOBAL TV NETWORK!"
You know, just maybe this PR isn't so sinister after all. Maybe it's like Suz said,,,"Life sometimes imitates art" Or was it the other way around?
What better way to get huge international exposure & take the uncontested lead in a merket where the target consists of $600,000,000,000.oo of disposable income.
All I know is sometime events collide in such a way as to make one wonder.
So people ask,,,"Whizknock! Where's Frank get thr funds for a buyout?"
I'll get to that sometime a little later in the future!
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I keep telling my self Frank just completed a buyback at a pps of twice today’s value. If anything it would indicate how much they have in the tank. Think about it. If they spent 4 to 5 million, maybe more, on that endevor I don't for a minute think he spent all the money they had. Not even half! Buy backs are done with surplus, not vital operational funds. Just a guess but I'm willing to bet Frank has over $6 million in surplus funds if not a lot more.
I can't see them doing a buyback if they were not set for at least a year or two of operation. I'm not saying I know anything but if they had the money to do that buyback they would not use it all for that purpose. nobody's going to retire a billion shares if they have immediate pressing needs.
They knew they had overhead, needed talent & were going to have production costs. My thinking is that day to day operating expenses are not the chief concern here.
I bought more on Friday, alot more, & ready to double my entire position. People I talk to are excited about this stock and I personally believe this thing is bouncing off a bottom.
Don't buy or sell on anything I write!
However!
If you do buy,,, be smart, like Frank! Decide how much you can safely risk on this & even then don't spend it all at once. Buy increments like Frank did!
Hope this helps. The way I see it is this is simply a matter of time, nothing more, nothing less,,,It's like I said,,,
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Out of curiosity. I wonder who else could have made a bid on PV. IMO they made their own offer. I got 1.4 mil more yesterday at .0019 and I'm glad I did. It sounds like Pride tv knows they have a new owner as of April. Hey I'm pretty smart.
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By: whizknock 27 Jul 2004, 12:10 AM EDT Msg. 463603 of 778000 Jump to msg. # OK! I'll admit it. I forget the precise moment it occurred to me that there was only one element missing from the equation,,,,
(QBID=$1)
I think it was February 2nd. Right after I plunked my money down it dropped 50% & stayed in that range for days. For some reason I didn't even care. Because I knew beyond any shadow of a doubt that given time QBID would be a storybook stock.
See, I already knew before I ever asked people on any number of message boards to help me write a list of Broadcasting National TV Networks that trade for less than $1 a share. I knew they couldn't produce anymore than 1 or 2 lame examples at best. And I also knew why!
Yep. There were a couple of moments when I had my doubts but bottom line I always knew that the only thing absent was,,, **the element of risk!**
Even for those that piled on in the .02 range. There just really isn't any risk. I know we're going through .02 on the way to a buck.
We all knew, well, most of us knew that it would happen even before it did.
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This post has no facts to it, but there are rumors going around IHUB, RB, and emails that we signed Comcast. Has anyone heard this too? Not getting my hopes up since it's only a rumor, but that would be REALLY big news if it's true.
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LOL! I have no problem with you starting the next QBID thread. Let's just wait until we hear more about PrideVision though. Imagine the possibilities for a new title!
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OT - Quick question, does anyone else have any problems with Allstocks? When I come here it will sometimes freeze up my internet explorer and I have to close it completely. Happens quite often and it usually works after I close it down and reboot IE. Anyone else having difficulty? Matt
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quote:Originally posted by permanentjaun: OT - Quick question, does anyone else have any problems with Allstocks? When I come here it will sometimes freeze up my internet explorer and I have to close it completely. Happens quite often and it usually works after I close it down and reboot IE. Anyone else having difficulty? Matt
I get that sometimes when opening threads.
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It would be nice for me if a new thread was not started...There is plenty of DD on this thread and I would like any and all info I can get as this stock changes... If you do start a new thread is it possible to transfer the DD to the new one? If not please keep this one for a while longer...Thanks
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quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: It would be nice for me if a new thread was not started...There is plenty of DD on this thread and I would like any and all info I can get as this stock changes... If you do start a new thread is it possible to transfer the DD to the new one? If not please keep this one for a while longer...Thanks
Us old timers, would like to "not" start a new thread until we get a little more news on carriers or the Pridevision deal. Then come out with a new thread and a catchy heading to capture new investors and spark old investors to come back. We cannot do that now, when we really don't have that catchy phrase. After Monday it maybe a whole new game
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quote:Originally posted by permanentjaun: OT - Quick question, does anyone else have any problems with Allstocks? When I come here it will sometimes freeze up my internet explorer and I have to close it completely. Happens quite often and it usually works after I close it down and reboot IE. Anyone else having difficulty? Matt
Matt, no problem here think you need to run adware or virus protection.
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