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suz,,don't have l2s so I can't answer that. The volume is big today with these low levels. imo there is accumlation going on. I can't understand why investors would dump at this level.
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Jeff, appreciate the heads up...but learn to be a kinder, gentler nation...lol...
...while I've played your picks and made money, I know you realize the Q is a different animal...If the charts show a dip...then a dip is probably forthcoming...but as you know, the bulk of the people on this board are longs...I settled on .0026 to fund my former 401K today...would I have liked more shares...yes...would I have preffered 7 mil to the 5 3/4 I got today...yes...but I and several others on this board truly believe the day will come that we will be laughing whether we bought at 1/4 or 1/3 or 1/2 cent a share...
..I know you only post because you truly care...I mean no disrespect...but us longs...we be hangin'...lol
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I know one thing, for those of us who have been in this stock for over a year, we have came along way but we still got along way to go. Even with the good news, there are so many daytraders involve in this stock now at these prices that for us long-term investors, it is really going to hurt us big for a long time. I have a feeling even with news on carriers we still will be stuck at these prices cause to many daytraders will just buy it and sell it. Man it is gonna be very interesting to see how this plays from here on out.
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I posted this on another board and got no help so figured I would try here. Seems to be a different sort of folks here... the "discourage and destroy" statement was in regards to one of the frequent posters claiming thats what the MMs and bashers are doing.
In full disclosure, this is not my first penny stock, but it is the first I have done much in the way of research and digging. Due to that fact I ended up buying more and intend to stay in it do or die. I do accept that the latter may be the result, but I really do think this is a good deal. This is something different. However, even if internally I feel confident there is a ton of negative attitude that I just need to quit reading. It is unfortunate that I have to weed through bashers to get to confirmed information, but it is the only way to get to the truth. Maybe I should pick my boards better in the future lol
Anyway.. I just dont get it. How can 500mill shares go by and NO CHANGE.
How can MMs keep it at that price?
Sorry if I am long winded I am just trying to understand a little better and get a better feel for all of this. I see this is a winner in everything I have read, so why are so many down on it also?
Is the OS issue that grave?
Is getting off the pinks even a possible reality? I read Renee statement in the conference call transcripts and it doesnt sound positive.
Do we have to get off the pinks to see a real pricing happen?
Frank goes on in the transcript about calls and messages and emails screwed deals in the pastith media / carriers etc? No offense to Frank but ummm those werent very strong deals if that was enough to screw them up were they? That is bothersome. It sounds like excuses to me.
A GLBT network with the contacts, recent activity, and more PR than any of the others... that seems like much more than a sub penny stock to me. It sounds like more than a $1 stock to me, but still it stays dead at the .002x area.
Then again with all these things coming, the knowledge involved and the experiences of the people involved recently this almost seems to good to be true and well.. if that happens they normally are. Right?
Below is the original unanswered post. Thanks for any insights!!
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Ok.. why "discourage and destroy", to what end? Wouldnt it be better for the MMs to have this thing run up a ways and then short it and then discourage and destroy?
Or since the PR we are getting should (with any other stock) make the price run up - if "they" have that much control of manipulation as some imply - wouldnt it be best to buy a ton and let it run. Sell that off. Then short and run it down again?
I just keep seeing a lot of inferences to some deep dark conspiracy that just doesnt make sense if "they" wnat to make the most profit they can.
What am I missing? Where am I being naive on this end?
I believe in the idea, I believe in the people coming on board, and I seriously doubt these names/deals would be in use if they werent on board for real and extremely legit. Rubenstein, Rasenberger, Honey, American West, etc - I have read as much old news as I can going back on boards, news, and anything I can find and the only truly significant advances have been in the last 5-6 month imo. This should be the time it should run, right?? WTF!?
~~~ I apologize for any fomatting snafus, I tried to get them all fixed after the copy/paste
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I agree qnique. unfortunately I think trayders are making a ton of money on this daily. I am looking forward to the day to get off pinks. I am in no hurry due to the huge movement of Q Television Network.
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quote:Originally posted by suzainiee: Didn't the charts show a dip last April?
It is possible that someone had enough time to read the NY Post article (the floor trader getting caugh) by 10:44?
Or, my favorite--the buy back continues...
Hi suzainee, how are you?
Here is my experience with penny stocks so far: The PPS usually doesn't reflect the charts. When my stocks have shownn an uptrend in the charts - I've noticed the PPS went down. When my stocks have shown a dip in the charts - a lot of the times the PPS has gone up. I no longer follow charts as religiously as I used to when playing pennies. Just my two cents.
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Fly,I have not, yet. I usually check my email accounts and check my calendar and catch up on the day with the hubby at the same time while I check the board.
I do want to listen--7 eastern, right?-- ------------------------------------- Slow night.........
Here's a long, long story--life in the 21st century.
About 2 years ago my friend and I were on a cruise through the western Mediterranean aboard a Princess liner. At dinner we noticed an elderly lady sitting alone along the rail of the grand stairway in the main dining room. I also noticed that all the staff, ships officers, waiters, busboys, etc., all seemed very familiar with this lady. I asked our waiter who the lady was, expecting to be told she owned the line, but he said he only knew that she had been on board for the last four cruises, back to back.
As we left the dining room one evening I caught her eye and stopped to say hello. We chatted and I said, "I understand you've been on this ship for the last four cruises". She replied, "Yes, that's true." I stated, "I don't understand" and she replied, without a pause, "It's cheaper than a nursing home".
So, there will be no nursing home in my future. When I get old and feeble, I am going to get on a Princess Cruise Ship. The average cost for a nursing home is $200 per day. I have checked on reservations at Princess and I can get a long term discount and senior discount price of $135 per day. That leaves $65 a day for:
1. Gratuities which will only be $10 per day. And the rest can be put into the slot machines.
2. I will have as many as 10 meals a day if I can waddle to the restaurant, or I can have room service (which means I can have breakfast in bed every day of the week).
3. Princess has as many as three swimming pools, a workout room, free washers and dryers, and shows every night.
4. They have free toothpaste and razors, and free soap and shampoo.
5. They will even treat you like a customer, not a patient. An extra $5 worth of tips and your casino winnings will have the entire staff scrambling to help you.
6. I will get to meet new people every 7or 14 days.
7. T.V. broken? Light bulb need changing? Need to have the mattress replaced? No problem! They will fix everything and apologize for your inconvenience.
8. Clean sheets and towels every day, and you don't even have to ask for them.
9. If you fall in the nursing home and break a hip you are on Medicare; if you fall and break a hip on the Princess ship they will upgrade you to a suite for the rest of your life.
Now hold on for the best! Do you want to see South America, the Panama Canal, Tahiti, Australia, New Zealand, Asia, or name where you want to go? Princess will have a ship ready to go. So don't look for me in a nursing home, just call shore to ship.
PS: And don't forget, when you die, they just dump you over the side at no charge.
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Hi folks... There is munipulation going on here with QBID and also CNES...There's no other explaination that makes sense. It happened all day on both and it was interesting going back and forth watching the L2's...Large buys, multiple buys that should have moved the PPS up did not...but...small sales would move it down...
Maybe the SHO list that came out recently is getting the MM's into a panic and they're getting the PPS down as much as possible to cover...Maybe they're running scared....Maybe the SEC is on to them more than we know...Maybe this is the beginning of the last hurrah of their munipulating practices in the past...damn I'd like to see NITE and a few others get slammed...Sorry...I was out of my head for a few minutes...Dreaming
Just the oddest damn thing today watching both stocks...
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I think the buyback is continuing along with consolidation. WOW great volume today. Full page add in the Advocate also. Q is all over the place. Getting fun gain (manipulated,,you bet) bashers are out in force.
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quote:Originally posted by firefly: I think the buyback is continuing along with consolidation. WOW great volume today. Full page add in the Advocate also. Q is all over the place. Getting fun gain (manipulated,,you bet) bashers are out in force.
Fly!
I agree with consolidation & what signals a possible end is when there's been a down trend & we experience capitulation. Alot of people just give up & that's what it looked like to me today. Could continue tomorrow I've kept the powder dry on some of my warchest. If we slide some more I'm buying another nice size block. I will pace this so that I have reserves to continue buying over a couple months unless it begins going up. Then I rest on this position. But right now this looks like a bargain to me.
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Hi folks... There is munipulation going on here with QBID and also CNES...There's no other explaination that makes sense. It happened all day on both and it was interesting going back and forth watching the L2's...Large buys, multiple buys that should have moved the PPS up did not...but...small sales would move it down...
Maybe the SHO list that came out recently is getting the MM's into a panic and they're getting the PPS down as much as possible to cover...Maybe they're running scared....Maybe the SEC is on to them more than we know...Maybe this is the beginning of the last hurrah of their munipulating practices in the past...damn I'd like to see NITE and a few others get slammed...Sorry...I was out of my head for a few minutes...Dreaming
Just the oddest damn thing today watching both stocks...
Unfortuneately since we are not a reporting company SHO means less than nothing to us.. It is worthless anyway but Frank and Company are doing nothing to help the shareholders equity in that reguard...
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Come on, lets not get like the people on cmkx and prrm believing in something that not known. Buy back is almost impossible. Not to say it can't happen but why would it. Buy backs are done when revenues are good and the company is paying back the shareholders for there patience. But there is no real revenue right now. Not at least to the point they can afford a buyback. Even the last buy back was really not a buy back. It was a buy back of recently diluted shares. Shares sold high and bought back low for a profit. But when all was said we didn't decrease our number of shares. This will do fine without gettting into theories that are not stated and can not be proved. All it does it make shareholder mad and outraged when it becomes proven false. You own a non reporting company. Its non reporting for a reason. Never assume the best when the company doesn't admit to it. Companies love to brag on there good deeds to shareholders. The good thing is the SEC is coming down on companies for not imforming there shareholders of the basic information that stockholders need to make a wise choice. Maybe Frank needs reminded of that.
But saying that. Everything is looking up here. New shows, great programming, and new talent. We will get noticed real soon. Just be patient grasshoper.
Ric
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Casico...lol...couldn't resist...already lost all my stars...so wth...NOT IN THE DICTIONARY=NITD...
Unfortuneately...unfortunately is
Reguard...regard is...
...again... congrats on holding thru all the ups and downs...spell checker is a good thing...my prior post tonight...I noticed after the fact...I typed your instead of you're...we all do it...
...you just don't seem to care...stay strong...IMHO...this will pay off in time.
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I don't see how you folks can make some of the asumptions and claims I've just read in the last page(20).
There were more than twice as many shares sold than bought today. That will usually bring the PPS down.
The spread today was from .0025 to .0028. That isn't the kind of spread anyone in their right mind would try to daytrade.
This thing has been dropping big since the end of Dec.. And it always drops the most, bigger then average volume, when the news would make one expect it to rise.
Who is dumping all those shares?
Who has that many shares to sell?
Why do larger volumes always get dumped after good news?
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