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compound...your philosophy is great...however how about the majority of us who bought around .022-.028 and have lost half our investment?
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I totally understand buying a good product before it gets huge, but it's not that goods of a product IMO. If you have seen the packaging you would know.
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gainster, i agree the packaging look like something out of a harriet carter catalouge, ""things you never know existed" . Believe me i know, i already wrote to them and told them about the impression i got in cvs. I think the gold mine is in the european sales. Here's why- they will have the "real" nicodrops with the missing herb, the one known to cure nicotine addictions. Also. http://english.people.com.cn/200401/05/eng20040105_131828.shtmlPosts: 215 | From: new york | Registered: Dec 2004
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quote:Originally posted by kflk235: compound...your philosophy is great...however how about the majority of us who bought around .022-.028 and have lost half our investment?
your investment isnt lost until you sell.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: a little note on green baron. in the same email as posted above it still calls cmkx the stock play of a lifetime and assures everyone it still believes this.
So...what are you trying to say? (for those like me too slow to catch on).
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quote:Originally posted by ARI: vettemadman did you buy them to help you quit or to check them out?
I bought them purely to check them out before buying the stock. I finally got them in the mail yesterday and I have to agree with everyone else that the packaging is a bit shoddy. The top of the paper bag it comes in wasn't even sealed properly (like someone used a glue stick to try to seal it). I felt the outside of the packaging was decent and might prompt me to pick it up if I was in the store, but it pales next to the other quit-smoking competition. The lozenges themselves are allright though the white wrappers make them look like someone made them in their garage. Anyway, I am not saying that these won't sell, but I hope they listen to the criticism and upgrade the packaging. I am going to give them to my smoker buddy to try out. I will report back.
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I saw this on another board, and is the first positive news i've heard from this stock in a long time. Looks like they might be sitting on a gold mine, but as others have posted, don't know how to make it attractive to those trying to quit.
this is the only one i will make money with. not a doubt in my mind. i am in at .029 per share. i quit smoking new years eve and have been using the drops. i used to smoke 2 packs a day at 5.30 cents a pack. ( must say friday i thought about having one but didn't. lol)the way i look at it ncdp is paying me $10.60 a day. . do they work? i have smoked for the last 35 years (damn i am old) and yes they work better then anything i have tried including zyban, patches, hypnosis, acupuncture. i have tried them all. this is the first time i do not feel suicidel or told my wife to leave lol. serious i ussually get really mean and ugly when i try to quit. others will try this the word will get out and i think it will be a very succesful company
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Well I almost jumped on @ .02 but did not as I had other irons in the fire. Glad I waited as it has dropped quite a bit. Really hoping for the .01 area to buy in. I don`t see a hurry as management is slow with the news and promotion and it just takes time to bring this kind of thing to market. Not to mention this is a very saturated market space. The market overall seems to be in a after New Year slide in any event and its taking everyone down so take heart its not all related to this one stock.
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Yes...i do believe it is true....and if you read some of his other posts, you will see that he is getting the word out to different agencies, and stores telling them of the success he had.
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No update. I sent my loooong e-mail to them. They better take the time to read it and respond intelligently! (Not like Mario from MLON!)
I have always said that this is a long term hold. My only 3 concerns were (feel free to check previous posts to verify).
1. Does the product work? 2. Will we see the advertisement blitz? 3. Are there really no side effects??
I'm beginning to feel more comfortable about questions 1 and 3. I think if the thing did not work at all, we would hear something on the boards, even from bashers. But so far, nothing but good reviews.
Question 2 is now the pressing issue. I hope Mr. Slimfast is coming up with some grand strategy(remember, he came aboard late in the game for this product - he might be totally revamping what the CEO had planned, including distribution plans. THAT would be a good thing - he's the expert, the CEO is just a scientist.).
Again, as I said at .027, who cares if it goes up or down a penny in the short term - I don't need my money right now. Mark this post, and come see me around Thanksgiving.
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I live in Kissimmee, Florida and the CVS store manager at first told me that they will not be receiving Nicodrops. Well I asked her to see if she could get them for me. She said that would be difficult because she did not have a item code.
Well she just called me and told me she was going through the valentine's day inventory and at the bottom of one of the boxes was three boxes of Nicodrops.
I just picked up all three boxes. The box itself is eye catching and right under the Nicodrops logo is says "Anti Nicotine Herbal Lozenge" I do not smoke but tried one anyway. It had a good taste and was wrapped in a silver wrapper. It did seem to have a calming effect. I gave one to my brother (a non-smoker) and he said the same thing. The ultimate test will be to have my wife try them, she is a smoker. She will try them tomorrow.
The effect is relaxing. I wonder if they should try to capture stressed out people's business as well. I think if you put this next to the other stop smoking items it will have a great chance for success.
Nicodrops .... Long and strong
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Listen, this is a no brainer winner! Read my above posts. Somebody complained about the box and packaging of the lozenges. Well think about it. The CEO just basically invented this in his basement. He probably hired some low low budget firm to package the goods to get them to CVS. But now he just hired the Slimfast guy and hired Quigley - don't you think that after Quigley and Slimfast guy gets a hold of this packaging that it will change? I wouldn't be surprised if they purposely sent CVS only a limited quantity until they got their house in order with their new compatriots.
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Your saying that you actually felt a noticeable relaxing effect from one lozenge? If that is true, I would think that they really have something, but I find it hard to believe as your mind can play so many tricks on you. I personally, have tried everything to relax me, Kava Kava, Valerian root, St. John Wort, you name it, and in well of excess of the recommended dosage and never felt any calming effects. Believe me, I need calming effects!! I am a nervous wreck and wish something non-addicting could help me.
quote:Originally posted by JB99: I live in Kissimmee, Florida and the CVS store manager at first told me that they will not be receiving Nicodrops. Well I asked her to see if she could get them for me. She said that would be difficult because she did not have a item code.
Well she just called me and told me she was going through the valentine's day inventory and at the bottom of one of the boxes was three boxes of Nicodrops.
I just picked up all three boxes. The box itself is eye catching and right under the Nicodrops logo is says "Anti Nicotine Herbal Lozenge" I do not smoke but tried one anyway. It had a good taste and was wrapped in a silver wrapper. It did seem to have a calming effect. I gave one to my brother (a non-smoker) and he said the same thing. The ultimate test will be to have my wife try them, she is a smoker. She will try them tomorrow.
The effect is relaxing. I wonder if they should try to capture stressed out people's business as well. I think if you put this next to the other stop smoking items it will have a great chance for success.
Nicodrops .... Long and strong
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I actually felt a calming, relaxed feeling. Maybe it's the combination of the Ginseng, St. John's Wort, and Valerian. Try it for yourself to see what you think. They must have a new package look. I think it looks fine.
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Does any one have the e-mail address for the company?? Maybe everyone here holding shares should send them an e-mail twice a day. Then maybe they will put out some kind of press release.
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quote:Originally posted by tryingtobeadaytrader: Your saying that you actually felt a noticeable relaxing effect from one lozenge? If that is true, I would think that they really have something, but I find it hard to believe as your mind can play so many tricks on you. I personally, have tried everything to relax me, Kava Kava, Valerian root, St. John Wort, you name it, and in well of excess of the recommended dosage and never felt any calming effects. Believe me, I need calming effects!! I am a nervous wreck and wish something non-addicting could help me.
hmm try something more herbal.. such as.. herb.. Posts: 44 | From: Brunswick, GA, USA | Registered: Dec 2004
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i know the CVS in orangeburg NY, is carrying them. I think there are a bunch of others that are carrying them as well, i'll let you know, because I'm getting these things out there
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I saw in CVS, they are selling..but its hard to find, i spent 30 mins to find where it is...
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Just checked the local CVS in town. No Nicodrops. I will check Hazleton PA in the next day or two.
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1. Got a response from my e-mail. The Cervelle Group answered, and gave some pretty solid responses (at least it assures me it is not a scam). Although the answers were not totally forthcoming, the one good part is the listing on the OTC.BB in 6 months. Long and strong at 300K shares! You can't take em unless you pry them from my cold, dead fingers.
Here is my original e-mail:
Dear Nicodrops,
I am writing this e-mail on behalf of myself, a shareholder in your fledgling company, and also on behalf of other shareholders, who together hold approximately 5 million shares of your compnay's stock. We are all supporters of your product, your management team, and your company, and have faith that in the future, Nicodrops will show a great rate of return to its current shareholders. Some of us have tested the product, and do agree that so far, it does actually seem to work as advertised! We have been here since the beginning, and are willing to continue to be shareholders through thick and thin
We would just like some further insight into your marketing / distribution strategy. It appears that Nicodrops has reached a "crossroads" of sort, a defining moment in the company's growth stage. We ask these questions not as those who wish to shout the information from the top of the mountain, but merely to reassure ourselves that Nicodrops is on the path to prosperity. As you already know, this week, in terms of share price, was not reassuring! I realize that you may not be able all of these questions, but any insights you can share would go a long way in keeping your loyal shareholders confident that their investment shows promise.
1. Distribution - In December, 2004, you had mentioned during your webcast that you were attempting to have 2 more distributors market Nicodrops. Can you give any update on this development? If you cannot release the names of the retailers, can you give some clue as to where they are located? Are they regional or national retailers? Will they be receiving Nicodrops on a trial basis only? How many units do you expect to ship initially? When can we expect these announcements?
2. CVS - In December, 2004, we all read the press release concerning Nicodrops using CVS as their first national retailer. However, to date, many of us have had trouble finding Nicodrops in many of the CVS's near our homes. Also, they are not listed on the CVS web site. After contacting CVS, we have been told by CVS representatives that CVS will only be stocking Nicodrops on a trial basis; restocking of Nicodrops will depend upon the demand of the product by CVS customers. They also mentioned that it "should" appear on their website soon, however, no date was given. Can you give any futher details on the CVS deal? Will you be stocking a majority of CVS stores with Nicodrops, or only select markets? Is it true that CVS is only stocking Nicodrops on a trial basis, and if so, can you give any assurances at this time that CVS will continue to stock Nicodrops in the future? Also, have the sugar-free lozenges been shipped to CVS retailers? We have only been able to find the sugar Nicodrops in stores near us.
3. Advertising - First, let me say that it extremely satisfying to see that you have brought Joel Appel on board to lead your Marketing team. Many of us have done our homework on Joel, and believe his past accomplishments speak for great volumes in terms of his marketing skills. In your December, 2004, press release, you had mentioned that you had hoped to capitalize on many consumers New Year's resolutions to quit smoking. Considering that the product is beginning to appear in CVS stores and is available online via your website, are you planning some massive advertising campaign to still capitalize on the New Year's consumer? In what form can we expect this advertising - television, print, radio, etc.? And when can we expect to see some type of aggressive advertising? I believe Nicorette has just invented their own lozenge, and I myself have seen their commercial at least 3 times since the New Year.
4. Financial - I believe during your webcast you stated that your company possessed very little overhead, and that you are expecting a 60% return on revenues. What is the timeframe for this expecation? When will your company share any sales figures for the product? Do you have any expectations in terms of earnings?
5. Stock price - You had also mentioned during your webcast of 12/04, that you had hoped to have your company listed on the OTCBB. What is the progress toward this goal? I know bringing aboard The Chervelle Group was a step in the right direction. However, when can we expect such a listing to occur? Are you planning any splits (reverse or forward)? Are you planning on buying back, or diluting shares in the future?
6. Product - As I stated above, many of us have purchased and used your product. We have an observation that we would like to share about the packaging of the product. On the packaging, in our opinion, there is not a bold enough statement that Nicodrops contains NO nicotine! If you read the directions, it becomes apparent. However, this, besides your cost, is perhaps your biggest selling point. We are suggesting perhaps you can redesign the packaging in the near future to emphasize this trait.
7. International - In past press releases, you mentioned that your company had received EU and Canadian approval to market Nicodrops. Is there any update as to where the company stands in terms of making its product available to other countries? Have foreign retailers been brought on board, or will they be brought on board soon? Also, you had mentioned that you were looking to enter the Asian market in the near future. Any update on entry to this market?
8. Testimonials - As I said, many of us have tested the product, and so far, feel it does work to some extent in limiting the craving for nicotine. However, besides testimonials on your website, there has not been any independent 3rd party confirmation that Nicodrops is effective. I know you did some clinical studies in South Korea, and that documentation from those studies do exist. Do you plan to release any type of information to the public concerning these studies? Also, do you plan on utilizing an independent 3rd party to verify if Nicodrops is effective?
I appreciate your time in possibly answering some of the above inquiries. Again, I am just one of many shareholders who feel you have a tremendous product on your hand, and would just like to feel confident that you and your company are taking the necessary steps in bringing the product to market.
Again, thanks for your time.
NCDP shareholder
Here is their response:
Here is some information for you per your request.
Distribution. The company is still in negotiations with a number of retail chains some similar to CVS. Nothing is imminent as of today though. The product has begun to hit the shelves at CVS and yes it is considered a product on a trial basis there – almost every new product is. When it is available, it can be found at the cash register next to the cigarettes.
CVS. I cannot give you any assurances that the product will be successful or that it will generate enough interest from CVS to continue to carry it. That remains to be seen but please give it time. The purchase orders were for product to be sent out to all of the CVS distribution centers and then the distribution centers would ship it to stores. At this time, I do not know how many stores are carrying the product but Nicodrops anticipates it will generate revenue from this agreement in the first quarter 2005.
Advertising. Nothing has been announced yet on an advertising or marketing campaign on behalf of the company but Joel is developing a marketing strategy and continues to utilize his expertise and extensive contacts to assist the company in gaining more exposure. I have not seen any information yet concerning an ad campaign or marketing program but I assure you as soon as one is finalized we will be sure to insist that the company issues it as an update to shareholders.
Financial. As you know the company is non-reporting at this time. No financials are expected to be released in the near future but I can tell you a few things. The company anticipates it will become fully reporting within the next 6 months and file for OTC BB status. Also, the company is estimating that it will generate approximately $23 million in its first full year of marketing the product to retailers, consumers etc. – that clock has begun ticking with the product entering CVS stores. I cannot comment on earnings at this date.
Stock Price. See above. Also, there are no plans of any splits or buy backs to my knowledge.
Product. Thank you for the suggestion I will be sure to pass it along to Chris Calpito. Keep in mind, the product was recently redesigned. It has been met with enthusiasm from buyers and consumers to date but I’m sure it can always be improved upon.
International. Good question. The company is definitely looking to target Europe and Asia in 2005 to go along with the U.S. Nothing is signed as of yet but distributors have been approached in Asia and negotiations are taking place. Same for Europe. There is a definite need for Nicodrops in these countries. Also, so you know, people can order the product on www.nicodrops.com – that includes people from overseas as well.
Testimonials. The company is gathering a number of testimonials right now which could be potentially used for marketing purposes. Another great question and something the company is very keen to at this time.
Thank you very much for your interest in Nicodrops. I have attached a two page profile for your review on the company. This is something we send to retail brokers and prospective investors alike. I think it may give you more information in your quest to understand the company better. I know since it is non-reporting you have a bit of a challenge on your hands but it certainly looks like you have done a tremendous job so far. I wish more investors were as thorough as you.
If you have any other questions or concerns please let me know.
Sincerely,
Dave Donlin Cervelle Group
2. The investor information packet they sent looks pretty cool. I can't post it because it is in Adobe Acrobat, but I can try and post the text parts:
Business Scope: Nicodrops Inc., headquartered in La Mesa, CA, has developed the world’s first drug-free, non-nicotine product which allows smokers to give up their habit faster and at a lower cost than their major competitors without the adverse side effects of nicotine. Nicodrops is an all-natural herb lozenge which helps to calm the nervous anxiety that is brought on by nicotine addiction. The company’s lozenge products are based on patent protected proprietary technology which offers a safer alternative to all other nicotine based products in the marketplace today. Nicodrops is currently offered in two lozenge products for sale to the retail market, one being its regular lozenge, the other being a sugar free lozenge. Both lozenge products are individually wrapped and sold in packages of 20 lozenges per package. The Company also sells both individually wrapped lozenges in bulk to the international markets. Nicodrops Herbal Formula consists of Ginseng, St. John’s Wort, Valerian, and Lobelia. Canadian research has indicated that ginseng helps ease the withdrawal symptoms of recovering addicts. Wort is often used to improve the irritable disposition of individuals trying to break their addiction from tobacco use. Valerian is beneficial to those experiencing withdrawals from addictive substances. Lobelia is believed to mask (mimic smoking) the withdrawal symptoms of nicotine addiction without itself being addictive.Nicodrops requires a much shorter time to show tangible results (less than 4 weeks compared to thedrug based products that are 12 weeks or longer.) Nicodrops lozenge is a no non-sense straightforward approach to begin a stop smoking program without using nicotine right from the onset.
Key Investor Points:
Nicodrops has EC (European · Community) approval to distribute its products in 15 European countries. · Nicodrops do not require FDA approval since the lozenge product are in the “Dietary Supplements” category for purposes of the U.S. market. · NCDP anticipates a profit in its first full year of operations. · Nicodrops anticipates first year revenues of $23 million with after tax earnings projected to be approximately $8 million in the first year. · Currently, there is only one other drugfree product of its kind in this market which is a complicated program consisting of a multitude of products.
Management Bio's: Dr. Srini Chary – Chairman and Director Dr. Chary is a prominent medical doctor well known throughout Canada. In addition to his medical practice, Dr. Chary has extensive business interests throughout North America as well as other parts of the world. He will be primarily responsible for giving overall direction to the Company. In addition to this responsibility he will also oversee all corporate governance matters and assist the Company in promoting its products in international markets. Dr. Chary’s other activities include overseeing the activities of companies involved in various healthcare and other businesses. He has extensive background in international marketing and finance and has been the President and CEO of a number of NASDAQ listed companies. Christopher L. Calpito – President, CEO and Director Mr. Calpito is involved in the Company’s business on a full time basis. Mr. Calpito has gained extensive background in herbal products and their properties as they relate to smoking cessation products which he gained over a 10 year development period. Mr. Calpito has been actively developing the Nic odrops product since 1993. Prior to becoming involved with Nicodrops on a full time basis, Mr. Calpito was involved in the airline transportation industry. In his capacity with the Company he will be responsible for implementing the Company’s business plan as well as overseeing the quality control of the Company’s manufacturing program and ongoing research and development activities.
Key Industry Points: · The world market for smoking cessation products is $2.5 Billion annually. · The Center for Disease Control estimates 70 million Americans are smokers (24% of the U.S. population). · An estimated 250 million people worldwide are smokers. · More people die from lung cancer than any other type of cancer. This is true for both men and women according to The Center for Disease Control (CDC).
The only other part of the pamphlet that was interesting was this part of the disclaimer:
The Cervelle Group, LLC has been paid for such public relations and promotional services, including this publication, by being paid 4,000,000 shares of NCDP. For further information on this company, please contact a company representative. Additional copies of this report may be obtained by calling investor relations at 407-295-7878.
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quote:Originally posted by tryingtobeadaytrader: Your saying that you actually felt a noticeable relaxing effect from one lozenge? If that is true, I would think that they really have something, but I find it hard to believe as your mind can play so many tricks on you. I personally, have tried everything to relax me, Kava Kava, Valerian root, St. John Wort, you name it, and in well of excess of the recommended dosage and never felt any calming effects. Believe me, I need calming effects!! I am a nervous wreck and wish something non-addicting could help me.
hmm try something more herbal.. such as.. herb..
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Repo... thanks for the information. I just thought of a question. I bought 3 boxes the other day at CVS. The store manager mentioned that she did not know how ring up the purchase and what code to use in the system. I hope they do not get rung up under some other code and it seems as though they are not selling. Just a thought.
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