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[QUOTE]Originally posted by betting babe: [B]well, once they carry them online, theyll have hit all the stores.
try this for incentive (tho it still doesnt get me to quit):
1 pack per day @ 8.25 per pack = $3000 per year.
OMG ! $8.25 a pack !
in Phoenix were still around $5.00. like you said though, still not enough to make me quit. STEP AWAY FROM MY SMOKES ! I started rolling my own, box 'o TOP tobacco and I'm all set. Went from $200 a month to 'bout $30 a month...
theres another nicodrops thread under HOT STOCKS free for all, they mentioned that not all CVS's will rec. the product during the CVS test...
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Try buying them by the carton. It's cheaper. $35.00 carton= 10 packs= $3.50 a pack.
quote:Originally posted by Grynder: [QUOTE]Originally posted by betting babe: [B]well, once they carry them online, theyll have hit all the stores.
try this for incentive (tho it still doesnt get me to quit):
1 pack per day @ 8.25 per pack = $3000 per year.
OMG ! $8.25 a pack !
in Phoenix were still around $5.00. like you said though, still not enough to make me quit. STEP AWAY FROM MY SMOKES ! I started rolling my own, box 'o TOP tobacco and I'm all set. Went from $200 a month to 'bout $30 a month...
theres another nicodrops thread under HOT STOCKS free for all, they mentioned that not all CVS's will rec. the product during the CVS test...
How does nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) work? "NRT works by replacing the nicotine obtained from cigarettes with nicotine delivered by the patch, gum, lozenge or inhaler. Some smokers confuse symptoms of withdrawal from tobacco with the side effects of NRT. They may become tense, agitated, depressed, have disturbed sleep or crave cigarettes when using NRT. These can be symptoms of nicotine withdrawal."
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not holding any personally but boy, gotta be a tough market to be in ? cant hardly watch an hour of tv with out seeing somebody's stop smoking commercial. Unfortunatly havent seen anything fer Nicodrops here in Phoenix.
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This thing smells worse than my dumps at this point.
But I am long and strong with almost 300K shares. Next PR will drive us up to .03 ... we basically have to wait until the 1st sales release. They said that they have practically NO overhead, so any kind of decent sales should push this thing. Plus you have the Canadian, EU, and soon to be Asian Markets. Plus, we haven't see ANY advertising yet - the dude from Slimfast better be brainstorming right now.
It sucks to see your life savings cut in 1/2 (I'm in at .027), but this is the 1 stock I will illustrate patience with. Right now, my main concern is that it works - I would love to see some type of 3rd party review, not just testimonials.
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I guess if we've learned anything about this stock....lets stop hyping it up until it does something. Again, everyone likes to reassure everyone else that everything is peaches and cream, but with what factual evidence? As the last post stated, nicodrops isn't advertising, it isn't proven to work, and it has dropped enormously since we bought into it. In an email posted from the CEO earlier this week, they don't even have a marketing or advertising plan devised yet. This should have been done well in advance for the anticipation of the New Year. I am awfully dissapointed in this company, and will be getting out as soon as I possibly can.
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Normally, I would say this is a good opportunity to load up on more shares. However, this has to be an individual decision, so do the DD and hope you made the right one. IMO, I just bought more. Ed
quote:Originally posted by kflk235: Alright, we've come to the conclusion this is not a scam, but it just keeps declining. Any opinions here???
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Yeah, I may sell my MLON just to drop my cost basis. Bottom line is, people have seen the product in CVS, so it is out there. And we haven't seen any people, even bashers, say it doesn't work yet... I agree they are not on the ball with starting the advertising, but still lots to go on with this stock.
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this is a co. trying to make its way in a huge market. just the very early stages. this takes a long time. very typical of these to have spikes and then settle back down. this is slowly going to make us money if we are patient. stocks go up,then go down. hopefully,in the long run, the ups will outweigh the downs.or buy on the dips and sell at some profit.
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just some info on joel appel. didnt see it posted since this thread started but joel appel jumped on board NCDP Dec. 9 '04
might give you some insight to see how he did with a similar product.
best of luck.....
Advanced Plant Pharmaceuticals, Inc. -OTC BB 'APPI'- Selects New President of Sales & Marketing
April 16, 2003--Advanced Plant Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: APPI - News) is proud to announce that they have selected Joel Appel, best known for his work with Ultra Slim Fast, as new president of sales and marketing for APPI. Mr. Appel brings to APPI many years of experience in sales and marketing of OTC brands. Mr. Appel began his career at Proctor & Gamble serving in the position of Territory Manager, Unit Manager and District Manager. While at Proctor & Gamble, Mr. Appel introduced Pampers Disposable Diapers and won an award for selling the most disposable diapers in the United States. During the 70's, 80's and 90's Mr. Appel was involved in sales and marketing of some very familiar brands, Oxy 5, Tums, Aqua Net and Orajel, just to name a few. During the early 80's he was Senior Executive VP at Jeffrey Martin where he served on the Board of Directors. In the late 80's Mr. Appel held the position of Senior VP of Sales with Thompson Medical where he was part of the team that introduced Ultra Slim Fast. More recently Mr. Appel held the position of Senior VP of Sales with GenDerm Health Care. While at GenDerm he helped reposition ZOSTRIX and ZOSTRIX -HP from ethically promoted and positioned products to consumer (OTC) products. The brand grew from 6 million to over 20 million dollars in sales in less than two years.
Mr. Appel said, "I'm excited about the potential APPI's patented product Lo-Chol has in the 20 billion dollar cholesterol market here in the United States". Mr. Appel further stated, "APPI has unique products which are in demand worldwide, in addition to Lo-Chol, I will be preparing a marketing plan for Sinusol".
About Lo-Chol
Lo-Chol derived from whole plants, is a patented natural formula proven in clinical studies to help tip your lipid balance (good and bad cholesterol) towards a more normal level. Clinical research shows that Lo-Chol helped test subjects lower total cholesterol up to 29%, triglycerides 45%, increased HDL (good cholesterol) 60%, and improved the ratio of HDL to LDL 46%. Lo-Chol doesn't contain extracts, instead, it utilizes the entire part of a specific plant that is processed and standardized to deliver optimum potency and nutritional benefits. Lo-Chol contains a full-spectrum of phyto-chemicals derived from natural plants, ingredients that science and medicine have identified as having excellent health properties. The cholesterol market in the U.S. is estimated to be more than 15 billion dollars annually.
About Sinusol
Sinusol, developed in concert with a leading board certified Allergy and Sinus specialist, is a unique nasal and sinus solution that pleasantly cleanses and moisturizes the nasal and sinus mucosa. Sinusol thins nasal solutions to clear stuffy and blocked allergic nasal passages as well as relieves sneezing and sinus pressure. Sinusol is the safe and natural alternative to over the counter nasal sprays and saline products that contain irritating preservatives and additives. Sinusol is a unique blend of natural essential oils that have been formulated for nasal moisturizing, cleansing and sinus irrigation. Sinusol can be used when health care providers recommend solutions for relief of stuffiness, dryness, congestion and irritated membranes of the nose, sinuses and throat. Sinusol is a physician recommended pure alternative with no preservatives such as iodine, thimersol (merthiolate), disodium edetate, phenylcarbinol, potassium sorbate, sodium silicoaluminate, or benzalkonium chloride that can further irritate mucosal surfaces.
This release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning and pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and involve risks and uncertainties that may individually or mutually impact the matters herein described, including but not limited to product development and acceptance, manufacturing, competition, regulatory and/or other factors, which are outside the control of the Company.
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Ok, enough is enough! I'm hungover, downright broke, mad as Hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!!!
I'm writing Nicodrop management, and CC'ing the Cervelle Group, with some of my (our) concerns. I plan on sending this early next week. All of you NCDP shareholders, read it, and tell me if any inaccuracies exist. Also let me know if there are any other questions you would like answered. Enough is enough!
Dear Nicodrops,
I am writing this e-mail on behalf of myself, a shareholder in your fledgling company, and also on behalf of other shareholders, who together hold approximately 5 million shares of your compnay's stock. We are all supporters of your product, your management team, and your company, and have faith that in the future, Nicodrops will show a great rate of return to its current shareholders. Some of us have tested the product, and do agree that so far, it does actually seem to work as advertised! We have been here since the beginning, and are willing to continue to be shareholders through thick and thin
We would just like some further insight into your marketing / distribution strategy. It appears that Nicodrops has reached a "crossroads" of sort, a defining moment in the company's growth stage. We ask these questions not as those who wish to shout the information from the top of the mountain, but merely to reassure ourselves that Nicodrops is on the path to prosperity. As you already know, this week, in terms of share price, was not reassuring! I realize that you may not be able all of these questions, but any insights you can share would go a long way in keeping your loyal shareholders confident that their investment shows promise.
1. Distribution - In December, 2004, you had mentioned during your webcast that you were attempting to have 2 more distributors market Nicodrops. Can you give any update on this development? If you cannot release the names of the retailers, can you give some clue as to where they are located? Are they regional or national retailers? Will they be receiving Nicodrops on a trial basis only? How many units do you expect to ship initially? When can we expect these announcements?
2. CVS - In December, 2004, we all read the press release concerning Nicodrops using CVS as their first national retailer. However, to date, many of us have had trouble finding Nicodrops in many of the CVS's near our homes. Also, they are not listed on the CVS web site. After contacting CVS, we have been told by CVS representatives that CVS will only be stocking Nicodrops on a trial basis; restocking of Nicodrops will depend upon the demand of the product by CVS customers. They also mentioned that it "should" appear on their website soon, however, no date was given. Can you give any futher details on the CVS deal? Will you be stocking a majority of CVS stores with Nicodrops, or only select markets? Is it true that CVS is only stocking Nicodrops on a trial basis, and if so, can you give any assurances at this time that CVS will continue to stock Nicodrops in the future? Also, have the sugar-free lozenges been shipped to CVS retailers? We have only been able to find the sugar Nicodrops in stores near us.
3. Advertising - First, let me say that it extremely satisfying to see that you have brought Joel Appel on board to lead your Marketing team. Many of us have done our homework on Joel, and believe his past accomplishments speak for great volumes in terms of his marketing skills. In your December, 2004, press release, you had mentioned that you had hoped to capitalize on many consumers New Year's resolutions to quit smoking. Considering that the product is beginning to appear in CVS stores and is available online via your website, are you planning some massive advertising campaign to still capitalize on the New Year's consumer? In what form can we expect this advertising - television, print, radio, etc.? And when can we expect to see some type of aggressive advertising? I believe Nicorette has just invented their own lozenge, and I myself have seen their commercial at least 3 times since the New Year.
4. Financial - I believe during your webcast you stated that your company possessed very little overhead, and that you are expecting a 60% return on revenues. What is the timeframe for this expecation? When will your company share any sales figures for the product? Do you have any expectations in terms of earnings?
5. Stock price - You had also mentioned during your webcast of 12/04, that you had hoped to have your company listed on the OTCBB. What is the progress toward this goal? I know bringing aboard The Chervelle Group was a step in the right direction. However, when can we expect such a listing to occur? Are you planning any splits (reverse or forward)? Are you planning on buying back, or diluting shares in the future?
6. Product - As I stated above, many of us have purchased and used your product. We have an observation that we would like to share about the packaging of the product. On the packaging, in our opinion, there is not a bold enough statement that Nicodrops contains NO nicotine! If you read the directions, it becomes apparent. However, this, besides your cost, is perhaps your biggest selling point. We are suggesting perhaps you can redesign the packaging in the near future to emphasize this trait.
7. International - In past press releases, you mentioned that your company had received EU and Canadian approval to market Nicodrops. Is there any update as to where the company stands in terms of making its product available to other countries? Have foreign retailers been brought on board, or will they be brought on board soon? Also, you had mentioned that you were looking to enter the Asian market in the near future. Any update on entry to this market?
8. Testimonials - As I said, many of us have tested the product, and so far, feel it does work to some extent in limiting the craving for nicotine. However, besides testimonials on your website, there has not been any independent 3rd party confirmation that Nicodrops is effective. I know you did some clinical studies in South Korea, and that documentation from those studies do exist. Do you plan to release any type of information to the public concerning these studies? Also, do you plan on utilizing an independent 3rd party to verify if Nicodrops is effective?
I appreciate your time in possibly answering some of the above inquiries. Again, I am just one of many shareholders who feel you have a tremendous product on your hand, and would just like to feel confident that you and your company are taking the necessary steps in bringing the product to market.
Again, thanks for your time.
NCDP shareholder
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repo, that is great! i thank you for taking the time to write and send that in on our behalf. I dont know what kind of response we (you) will get, but at least they will know we are out here and we are aware. I agree with a super bowl add, but that costs a bundle. I am checking in my cvs stores here in indiana, have not seen any yet. again, great job on the letter.
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Thanks repoman for making it known to Nicodrops that we do indeed hold a lot of shares in their company. Collectively, shareholders can be very powerful, and thus far, Nicodrops has essentially slowed down in what seems every aspect of marketing a product. I think we are all anticipating their response to your email. Thanks again.
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Nice job repo. I can't tell you how much it kills me to know I could have gotten twice the amount of NCDP stock by waiting 2 weeks. Same thing with mlon. If anyone else is feeling this way, just remind yourself what time will do to these 2 stocks.
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Anybody know where I might be able to find Nicodrops in LA? CVS is more of a east coast thing, right? Have not been able to find them anywhere, looked at several places. 7-11, Saveon, Circle K, and many others.
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ARI, I bought some on the Nicodrops website using Paypal...it was relatively painless. I live in LA too and I haven't seen them yet. However, I haven't looked too hard either:)
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Repo - great letter but I am not sure how long it will take them to respond. I sent them a email over a week ago asking them a advertising question and still have not heard from them.
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I emailed them about 3 weeks ago, but I have received no word as well. Good luck you guys. I dumped this off for a huge loss at .02. I'm happy I didn't hold longer. Anyways, good luck guys, if something new comes PR wise I might have to jump right back on. But this time I'll know when to take my profits. Seen it hit .034 and didn't sell, what an idiot I am.
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Green Baron update for those who are interested:
Nicodrops stock broke below our profile price of .017 per share yesterday to close at .013 per share, just above our Stock to Watch price of .012. Concern over the short term trading of this volatile pink sheet stock prompted us to take up a lengthy conversation with Nicodrops CEO Christopher Calpito yesterday afternoon. The Green Baron Report was able to verify once again some key facts that may be reassuring to those that purchased Nicodrops stock, and for those who are contemplating an investment.
The Nicodrops lozenge has received Binding Tariff Information (BTI) from The European Community and a Drug Identification Number (DIN) from Health Canada. The BTI number is 1704905500 and the DIN is 02245097. The BTI which was filed by way of the Netherlands gives approval to Nicodrops from The European Community (EC) to distribute its proprietary products in the following 15 countries; UK, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany, Italy, Green, Belgium, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Switzerland, and the Netherlands.
The Green Baron Report learned that manufacturing agreements with facilities in the UK and the Netherlands are in place as previously announced, and there has been nice progress moving forward. Mr. Calpito also believes that Nicodrops is the only product to be approved by Health Canada that is drug free. He stated that Canada recognizes Nicodrops as a medicinal herbal product to quit smoking.
Although The Green Baron Report remains very positive about the Nicodrops products and potential for strong sales, please understand that national distribution and huge sales do not occur overnight. It takes time to educate people through advertising and place the product where it can be purchased. Negotiations with key retailers and advertisers are ongoing. Although we anticipate more purchase orders with major retailers in the near term, we need to exhibit some patience while terms are negotiated and the Company’s business plans are implemented.
We are also trying to confirm the precise number of shares outstanding and in the float. Based on conversations with executives and consultants with Nicodrops, we agree that this company could fetch a price of $300 to 350 million once the products have been placed in the market and conservative sales projections are met. Even with 600 to 700 million shares outstanding, that would convert to about .50 per share. At the current price of just over .01 per share, we view this as an attractive speculation.
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While that Green Baron report is indeed reassuring, what can be said about the validity of their statements? I mean a green baron report 3 weeks ago suggested NCDP to be trading at .30 cents in 2005, and now despite our massive setback, went so far as to suggest .50 cents in their latest "update". It also seems they are back tracking on what they had written in other reports as to the timeframe of when NCDP was supposedly going to do well. Lastly, how does Green Baron get a lengthy conversation with NCDP, but the common shareholder can't get a response after weeks of trying??? I'm sorry if i sound pessimistic, but this stock got pumped hard, and a lot of what i hear i take with grain of salt.
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bottom line is this, the green baron makes many many good picks. I think that one could make a living off of that website if they wanted too. They are a big name in the otcbb community. And honestly I trust them over any random posters. In with 4 grand at about .024, holding, waiting to buy more while it's cheap. I mean how hard is it to figure out. News is coming, look what happened last time news came. For anyone that doesn't want to hold this for long, buy now and wait for that news to come out, then sell it. Me, I plan to hold and play it for all of 2005
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This may be hard to believe but the Green Baron just creates a buzz. Think about it. If the Green Baron didn't list NCDP as their pick, would most of us have heard of it. Probably not as much as we have. IMO The Green Baron just pumps whatever stock will pay them for their services. The one thing I know is that you can't make money if your product doesn't sell. And so far I haven't seen this stuff selling anywhere, and I have 3 CVS stores within a 6 mile radius of me. Also, the Green Baron said that they should make a big bang due to People's New Years Resolutions, but seeing as they haven't been selling this stuff, in too many stores, I'm pretty sure that the quitters have already found a different product of choice. Besides the packaging on this stuff is horrible. I wouldn't buy it based solely on the way they have chosen to market it. ON top of all of that, I have seen no type of advertisement of any sort. I have how ever been seeing a Nicorette Lozenge commercial quite frequently. Here is the deal. Wal-mart Target andany other big chain can carry this, but as long as people haven't heard of it, they won't go looking for it.
I'm not trying to bash, but I try to be realistic, I bought in at .026 and watched it go to .034, but I finally sold at .02 after realizing that it might never go back up.
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a little note on green baron. in the same email as posted above it still calls cmkx the stock play of a lifetime and assures everyone it still believes this.
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quick question to gainster, when is it better to buy a stock? Before it's products hit the shelf, advertisements start, major merchandisers announced, and before it's products spread throughout europe and canada. OR, after all of this. Remember buy low, sell higher than what you bought it for. Now is the time to buy nicodrops.
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quote:Originally posted by compound cash: quick question to gainster, when is it better to buy a stock? Before it's products hit the shelf, advertisements start, major merchandisers announced, and before it's products spread throughout europe and canada. OR, after all of this. Remember buy low, sell higher than what you bought it for. Now is the time to buy nicodrops.
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i thank you for taking the time to write and send that in on our behalf. I dont know what kind of response we (you) will get, but at least they will know we are out here and we are aware. I agree with a super bowl add, but that costs a bundle. I am checking in my cvs stores here in indiana, have not seen any yet. again, great job on the letter.
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