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Stealx
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expect a PR before christmas
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How do you know there's going to be a report before christmas
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Recently, Nicodrops announced it has formally received approval from the Canadian equivalent of the US FDA(1) the European Community (EC) to allow the company to distribute its proprietary products in the following 16 countries; Canada, UK, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany, Italy, Greece, Belgium, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Switzerland, and the Netherlands.

Note(1)(Correction the Canadian DIN number should have been DIN 02245097)

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Any comments about the steady decline over the past couple days? Im wondering if this is was predicted as normal before the forcasted boom in January.
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Isn't that the same as this statement previously released? I don't understand what that statement regarding the "European Community" fits? Yes, they got the CANADIAN FDA approval (equivalanet to the US FDA) but what doe this have to do with any approval in the EC? It is almost like a section has been cut out.

i.e. "....received approval from the Canadian equivalent of the US FDA(1). (something missing?, possilby, they are filing an application with??) the European Community (EC) to allow the company to distribute its ...."

Here is the previously released statement: "Nicodrops, developer of the world's first drug-free, non-nicotine smoking cessation lozenge, announced recently that it has formally received approval from the Canadian Food and Drug Administration for their smoking cessation lozenge"

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Recently, Nicodrops announced it has formally received approval from the Canadian equivalent of the US FDA(1) the European Community (EC) to allow the company to distribute its proprietary products in the following 16 countries; Canada, UK, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany, Italy, Greece, Belgium, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Switzerland, and the Netherlands.

Note(1)(Correction the Canadian DIN number should have been DIN 02245097)

Dave Donlin

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[This message has been edited by travman (edited December 21, 2004).]


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Well I e-mailed Dave because the DIN number that was released was for like an herbal cream.... I was like ummm something isn't right here so he cleared up the PR and the correct DIN
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This is a great time to load up on this right now, this will explode for sure in the coming weeks.... solid product and how could it not be if the number one drugstore retailer CVS has placed an order for it. With CVS backing NCDP we are bound to see huge numbers
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I hope they can advertise big. I have some shares, and hope it catches on, but who knows. There is so many ads for the competitors.
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Why are people saying that January is the month it will explode? Simply speaking, there will be many with the new years resolution to quit smoking. If you or someone you know is trying to quit, go buy them a pack of NICODROPS. It's 10 bucks, no sweat. If they say it doesn't work, please report it to the message board. I will do this myself. On the other hand if it does work, then they will become both a customer and promoter of the product. Please report anything of this nature back to the message board. Power to the people!! Power to the investors. Customers are the reason businesses can start, lets help out in any way!
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Seems like accumulation going on right now... everytime it dips, someone is scooping.


Honestly, I wouldn't be suprised if hear abou them on Howard Stern advertising


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I picked up 10k more shares today. Too promising, IMO
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ATTENTION ALL NCDP HOLDERS! YOU CAN HELP BRING THIS STOCK UP. IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO QUIT, BUY THEM THIS. GET THEM HOOKED. TELL THEM TO TELL OTHERS. SPREAD THE WORD. TOGETHER WE CAN HELP NICODROPS MAKE CVS LOOK GOOD AND ANYONE NOT CARRYING IT LOOK BAD. PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ANY OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS YOU KNOW. THANK YOU.
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I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THIS STOCK, NOT BECAUSE I THINK LUNG CANCER IS A PREVENTABLE EPIDEMIC, BUT BECAUSE I HAVE MY MONEY IN THIS COMPANY. I WILL TEST IT ON A FRIEND AND COMPARE IT TO OTHER MEANS. I AM ALSO ATTEMPTING TO WORK CLOSELY WITH NICODROPS. THEY HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE I CALLED THEM WITH IDEAS ON PROMOTING NICODROPS HERE IN NYC. THIS IS NO JOKE, I WILL LET THE BOARD KNOW IF I AM ABLE TO MARKET AND PROMOTE NICODROPS. I'M SURE THEY WILL NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A SALARY ONCE THIS ONE SPREADS.
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Try not typing in all caps. Makes it hard to read.
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Can't wait to see this on the shelves in CVS
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quote:
Originally posted by Bob Frey:
Try not typing in all caps. Makes it hard to read.

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*************.com has again renewed faith in NCDP - I am long 300,000 shares at .027... just wish I had more money to buy now!

Nicodrops, Inc. (NCDP)

New Year’s Resolution: Quit Smoking?

CVS Pharmacies to stock Nicodrops, so who is next?

In a webcast interview available exclusively on our website at www.*************.com, the CEO of Nicodrops, Christopher Calpito, noted that there are other retailers of significant size that are expected to carry the Nicodrops products. The Green Baron Report would like to see these names surface during the Christmas season, but it is more likely to assume that the Company will wait till the New Year to reveal any new deals. January is expected to be a huge month for Nicodrops!

In discussions with brokers, consultants, and others that have a large interest in NCDP stock, The Green Baron Report feels confident that most of the selling in the stock should be over. We underestimated how many shares that some individuals and previous shell owners would have for sale on this mini-move higher in the stock. However, it appears that these sellers may be just about done, and any turn higher in the stock with a little good news could take it to prices we earlier projected based on earnings.

The New Year always brings new resolutions. We are confident that Nicodrops is diligently working to place as much product as possible on store shelves by the end of January to take advantage of those looking to quit smoking at the beginning of the year. We believe there are some blockbuster announcements still to come in Nicodrops. Please stay tuned!



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funny one bundo, nice post repo. I'd like to hear more on ncdp from the board. I mean mlon and qbid have a cult following. We should do the same minus the talk about holidays, vacation, and dinner and more about news, dd, analysis, charts, updates, links, reports, things of this manor that make people wanna buy and not throw up instead.
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I agree compound. As I stated before, the damn thing is at .019 and I have absolutely no cash left to buy. I'm almost thinking about liquidating other positions that I'm waiting on to pop just to grab more. Long and strong with 300K.

Here is why I am long on the stock:
1. Simple business model: R&D (done), manufacturing (done - Quigley), distribution (partly done - CVS, maybe Walmart to follow?), and advertising (not done yet, but see #2).
2. Advertising - they just brought in as CMO the guy who marketed Slim Fast to notoriety. Also, like Stacker2 or Coldeez, I can see this product as a spot on Howard Stern - huge potential.
3. No real overhead. They outsource everything. Even if you try to buy the product directly through them, it's through paypal - no customer service, nothing.
4. CEO expected 60% return on revenues.
5. No side effects like Nicoderm or Nicorette, and does not contain Nicotine
6. Has similar name to Nicoderm / Nicorette, and is cheaper. Think about it. Guy wants to quit smoking, walks into CVS, sees 3 products that will help him quit smoking, all with "Nico" in their name - what is the average American consumer going to choose? The cheapest one, and will keep buying if it works.
7. Signed with Chevelle Group to market their stock to the investment community
8. If this stock does well, I can see GlaxoSmithKline buying them and cornering the market on Nicotine withdrawal products.
9. For you technical analysts out there, stock is near 52 week low.

There is real only three X factors at this point, and they are huge, yes:
1. Does the product work?
2. Will we see the advertisement blitz?
3. Are there really no side effects??

My only other concern is about the make up of the product for the U.S. Read below. Lobelia is not allowed in the Nicodrops for U.S. consumption, but allowed for Canadian use. Why? And is this the secret ingredient to the product??? I hope not! I hope it's not like removing ephedra from TrimSpa and marketing TrimSpa light. Without that key ingredient, Trimspa doesn't work.

Nicodrops Herbs

The origin of Ginseng dates back to about 1,500 years ago. To avoid all this confusion about ginseng, the real Ginseng was renamed "koryo Ginseng". Building herb for exhaustion and depletion of vital energy from stress and burn out. Increases capacity from stress and overall energy. Canadian research, both conclusive and preliminary has indicated that ginseng helps to ease the withdrawal symptoms of recovering drug addicts.


The plant was named after a biblical figure, "John the Baptist". It's in peak bloom on June 24th, the birthday of John the Baptist. St. John's Wort predates christianity. Wort, an old English word for plant or root. Soothing and anti-depressant properties. It is also beneficial for the respiratory and immune systems; both of which are damaged by smoking. It is often used to help improve the irritable, stressed disposition of individuals trying to break their addiction from tobacco use.


Valerian comes from the latin word "Valere", which means "to be in good health". Records of valerian's use go back to more than 1,000 years. It is especially beneficial to those experiencing withdrawal from addictive substances and nervous overstrain because it does not possess any of the after-effects produced by narcotics. Valerian is generally recognized as safe and approved for food use by the U.S.F.D.A.


Lobelia has a chemical structure and physiological effects that are similar to nicotine and is believed to mask the withdrawl symptoms of nicotine addiction without itself being addictive. Indicated in the treatment of tobacco (nicotine) addiction. Lessons the desire for nicotine, supports the nervous system and the adrenal glands, and has a cleansing and restorative action on the lungs and bronchi. Calms deeply on all levels. Mimics nicotine and helps quit smoking. (Only in Canadian formulation.)

Ginseng, Valerian and St. John's Wort (US distribution only) is a combination blend that are responsible for handling withdrawl sysmptoms from nicotine addiction. Lobelia added to Ginseng, Valerian and St. John's Wort combination is for Canadian export only. Nicodrops Company working with certified herbalist and a clinical laboratory developed a proprietary formula along with key natural flavors to harness the cause of nicotine addiction.


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repo, on mondayi want all out and bout up a bunch of this, then it dropped 30 percent, i cashed in my mutual fund for this puppy, they are in the mail but in the mean time i'm putting in whatever i can find. This should be back up to 3 cents with the next piece of news, it looks like it will be today judging by the frequency of past releases.
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Bargain basement prices for this future .20 stock.

Accumulating.


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can anybody tell me what the float is?

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Just e-mailed them to ask them for a comparison of their product vs CigArrest, another non-nicotine product that uses Lobelia.

There are 70 other products that offer the same result of quitting smoking... I wonder how NCDP is going to break away from the competition. Will it be advertising? Price? Just not sure about that yet.

Oh, and float is 450 million.


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While I hate to be pessimistic regarding the "great potential" of this stock, there are so many questions that need to be answered before this stock can succeed. First, despite its distribution with CVS, why am I unable to find it for sale with it's other competitors online? Secondly, does it work? There has been no certifiable evidence besides "customer testimonials" to suggest this product can break away from its competitors. Green Baron can report all it wants on the "potential" of a stock, but again, much of what has been written is speculative and the 1Q of 2005 IMO will be make or break.
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I agree with you to some extent.
It is posted online on various Quit Smoking web sites, but inevitably, they all point to nicodrops .com if you wish to actually order them.

True, as I stated before, the 3 big questions are:
1. Does it work?
2. Are there really no side effects?
3. Will the advertising blitz work?

The R&D, Distribution, and Manufacturing is all set.


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play it as a penny.
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What do you guys think of this? Think Nicodrops is purely innocent in this? It's an old article kinda, but just wondering


Zacks and Wall Street Digest Release Findings on Fraudulent Nicodrops Recommendation
Monday December 13, 4:27 pm ET


CHICAGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 13, 2004--Zacks Investment Research, Inc. and one of Zacks' featured advisors, Donald H. Rowe, and Rowe's publication, The Wall Street Digest, have concluded an investigation into the fraudulent use of our respective brands for the illegal promotion of a California company, Nicodrops, Inc. (Pink Sheets:NCDP - News). It should be noted that Nicodrops management and their investment relations firm, The Cervelle Group, fully cooperated in the investigation, and we believe that they are wholly innocent in this matter.
"Essentially, what we were dealing with here is the spoofing of our widely known brand "Zacks.com Profit from the Pros" in an email by some unscrupulous party to promote the Nicodrops stock for their own personal gain." stated Stephen Reitmeister, EVP of Zacks' Internet Group. "Along with the illegal use of our brand they also falsely featured one of our newsletter experts, Donald Rowe of The Wall Street Digest. The obvious intent here was to use 2 respected names in the investment industry to give their promotion the air of respectability. Neither Donald Rowe nor Zacks.com has any form of recommendation on this stock."

The fraudulent e-mail was sent to an unknown database of investors. Zacks' network administrators have determined that the investment research firm's site security was never compromised during the incident, which took place on or about December 1, 2004. Zacks and The Wall Street Digest will pursue all legal recourse in this matter to bring the guilty parties to justice.

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nicodrps obviously would not put their company on the line to take part in any of that. INNOCENT. I cashed in 10 grand of my stock mutual funds for straight up stocks. The money is coming this week and I will put 3 grand in Nicodrops and here's why. According to Bram Solloway,Senior Analyst and Managing Director at Maxwell Capital Inc., what overides competition, market price, etc. is PEOPLE. Choose who you want to believe people, but to me this makes perfect sense. In the case of Nicodrops, the people involved iclude a dedicated CEO an experienced director of sales, an experinced manufacuring company, and others involved in an international effort. I trust my money with this combination.
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im not in this one, but its a slow day, so thought id offer my opinion as to why im not in...

the herbal ingredients contained in nicodrops are available at any pharmacy or vitamin store, and they are cheap.. like $5 for 120 caps.

valerian root is the "calming" herb, st johns wort for "depression", lobelia for "congestion".

so why would people spend $50 for a bunch of candies that you have to eat 6+ of per DAY (ick) when you can just buy the caps for super cheap?

if the merchandising is good, and the drops arent hidden back with the other stop-smoking stuff, perhaps people will pick 'em up and not read whats in them.

but for $50, i read what im buying.

to create revenue they need to find a whole new crop of smokers-who-wanna-quit who haven't tried all the natural rememdies (these herbs have been touted for years to "calm u" when u want to quit) and who arent jaded about quitting in general, who are willing to spend yes another $50 on yet another possible "solution".

read the info on lobelia: perhaps they funded nicer studies in their favor, but in the past the feedback has been negative. http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/learning/healthguide/healthguide_content.jhtml?Category=Herb&title=Lobelia&relativePath=%2Fcontent%2Fhealthnotes%2FHerb%2FLobelia.htm

now price out the herbs that are in the nicodrops candies on that same site.

the younger generation doesnt really smoke (say, the eco-boomers) so the market will dwindle there...

older people i think have given up trying to quit.

all in all, i think the product will be a quick gimmick and make some sales if the merchandising is good at CVS but i foresee a long-term flop.

i do wish it would work tho. itd be nice to quit!
but if i saw this in cvs? id pick it up and say "junk".

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Bettingbabe, here's my argument:

1. Yes, if you price out the 3 herbs independently, I'm sure that they are cheaper. But that's like saying you can buy sugar, caramel, and carbonated water at cheaper prices, so why buy Coke? Don't you think that it's more complicated than that? You are almost comparing the product to when Peanut Butter and Jelly came in the same jar (wait, wasn't that a sucess??)

2. Perhaps you are correct about who wants to quit smoking and who doesn't... but the bottom line is, there will always be smokers, and those that want to quit.

3. Lobelia is not offered in the U.S. version of Nicodrops, perhaps because of the potential side effects. But then again, Nicodrops claims they have no side effects!

Seems to me, that if it does work, with no side effects, and it is cheaper than what is currently offered in CVS or Walgreen's, than smokers who wish to quit will buy it. I don't think you'll have a run of people saying "Wait a minute, if I mix these 3 herbs together, I'll cure myself!"


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betting babe, you are clueless. To say that a product is not worth the price b/c of the sum of the ingredients is dumb. Why do people pay money for chocalate chip cookies when you can buy plain cookies and stick chocalate chips in them? Because it is easier. Nicodrops are easier than buying the ingredients and making your own. Poor arguement "babe."
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i tend to agree. people are always looking for something new and cheaper. this is what nicodrops has to offer. besides-if you play it as a penny,then you should make some money. the price will raise with new contracts and such.
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actually, those that know me on the board know im not "clueless" compound cash..
but you havent been around very long so thats ok. i dont mind if you insult me. i do just fine at this 'lil trading thing without having to impress others.

many before me questioned if the drops (which arent drops at all, but lozenges) worked. i simply offered my opinion, for what it is worth, and posted some DD on the herbs.

I've used the herbs, so i feel entitled to offer my opinion. and if i used them in the past to try to quit, i imagine a lot of people have, and will think the same thing i thought when i read the ingredients.

Repoman75, def an argument for your points. I thought of all of those, I was just exploring the other side of the coin, and there were too many questions in my mind as to what is "new" about this product, my reson for not buying in at this time.

I'm sure it'll all be new to some. I just think there are so many products out there, and so many people who have tried the "natural rememdies" conained in this product for a fraction of the price, that I don't foresee a big WOW factor to create a big boom in the smoking-cessation market.
Lobelia, otherwise known as "indian tobacco", would actually make this product more interesting to me, having not been so familiar with it, but it isnt going to be in the US version.

I'd love to be convinced otherwise. Always looking for a new play, and this could def be a great one to "trade" but noticing that others have posted that they put thousands in for long term.. made me look closer.

So, sheesh, no offense. Food for thought for those of us that like to think through all sides.

glta.
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BB,

I agree with your point that other herbal remedies currently exist that do not contain Nicotine, claim to have no side effects, and are probably cheaper than say Nicorette. I e-mailed them last week asking them to outline their competetive advantages over such products (have not received a response as of yet).

My biggest fear (besides if they work or not) is the advertising aspect. Once the merchandise is on the shelves, they need to BLITZ the market with ads - TV, radio (Howard Stern would be perfect - I can hear Bababooey now doing an ad on this), print. THAT is how you differentiate yourself from similar competition.

The American public is a sucker for something newer, cheaper, simpler. If it is cheap, they'll buy it. If it works, they'll keep buying it.

The potential is just to big on this stock to pass it up.

And as a side note for you daytraders, you damn well know that when they announce Walmart or Walgreen's in the next few weeks as another distributor, it may hit .03 again. So why not load up now when it's cheap?


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agreed repo..
like i said, it's all in the merchandising!

fyi compound cash, at least my argument is better than yours: pump it b/c you have money in it.

Originally posted by compound cash:

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I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THIS STOCK, NOT BECAUSE I THINK LUNG CANCER IS A PREVENTABLE EPIDEMIC, BUT BECAUSE I HAVE MY MONEY IN THIS COMPANY. I WILL TEST IT ON A FRIEND AND COMPARE IT TO OTHER MEANS. I AM ALSO ATTEMPTING TO WORK CLOSELY WITH NICODROPS. THEY HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE I CALLED THEM WITH IDEAS ON PROMOTING NICODROPS HERE IN NYC. THIS IS NO JOKE, I WILL LET THE BOARD KNOW IF I AM ABLE TO MARKET AND PROMOTE NICODROPS. I'M SURE THEY WILL NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A SALARY ONCE THIS ONE SPREADS.

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