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i'm sure they are UP...it says all common shares and we got restricted common. that is one area that unrestricted & restricted are the same thing ============================== tic-toc, from what i remember they have no stake in anything concerning cmkx. a few have said they are the money behind UC in all this ===================================== JEAL...don't ya know it. a stock i've owned and sold awhile ago because it was sliding came out with great news last nite and no way to ride it up today. BTOR. they closed at .0061 and are at .0095 now. i need the IRS off my back...lol
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: cmkx has no stake in ucad anymore unless they increased the o/s into the treasury as they gave all shares to shareholders. and if they did put ucad shares into the treasury they haven't told anyone. the only deal that cmkx has made that could put money into cmkx's pocket is the new one with UCA. sggm gave them shares but they dont do anything to make money as far as anyone can tell.
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Unannounced. You never know with these guys. Could be a year+, or that just might be the money for shareholders to travel to Vegas by end of October. You'll have to wait to see.
quote:Originally posted by wnycowboy: Y'all, How long are the newly distributed UCAD shares restricted?
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That would depend on how many shares you have. I have 14 shares, X $15, $210, just pays for a flight from Chicago to Vegas. No, I'm not going, we discussed that yesterday. LOL
quote:Originally posted by wnycowboy: I don't think it would cover a cheap flight. Maybe a bus ticket if the stock ever goes back up! Thanks
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That is if I was to unload my cmkx shares for the big party in Vegas...It would probably last me about ten minutes at the craps table..
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Does it really make a difference toc? If we haven't learned that this whole deal isn't a complicated snotty mess with people with questionable backgrounds, then we haven't been paying attention.
quote:Originally posted by tic_toc: Also speculation... is John E Dolkart the same as our John E Dhonau?
I have a list of names that all seem to link if anyone wants to go thur them.
quote:Originally posted by will: Unannounced. You never know with these guys. Could be a year+, or that just might be the money for shareholders to travel to Vegas by end of October. You'll have to wait to see.
Will...be careful. Some on this board might call you a pumper for that statment.
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Hey WorkMan, I think you misunderstand me. When my team does bad, I boo, when my team does good, I cheer. Lately there has been a lot more to boo about as opposed to cheering. I'm neither pumper or basher, I'm a realist with a skeptical approach to this bunch.
quote:Originally posted by WorkAHolic: Will...be careful. Some on this board might call you a pumper for that statment.
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Ok, here's one to ponder. Assuming we are a part of this split (still trying to find out for sure) from what I've turned up so far, it appears that our split shares will not be restricted. They only issued x amount of Rule 144 shares which should all be coded "restricted". They will remain restricted while our new split shares might not be. I'm still digging and will post what I find.
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tic-toc...there are about 15 companies with their hands in each others pants involving cmkx. its like in-breading, and the more you look the worse it gets. cmkx is a risk a few hundred bucks & watch the show stock. ========================================
Winsum....thats what i was thinking happened because the a/s was increased 2 days before the own by date and the split went up from 483 billion o/s to 779 billion o/s or 296 billion shares. if they did that they put 2,847,520 ucad shares in the treasury give or take a few. with the split they would have about 10 million shares or just under 30% of ucad. if they did this with gemm too they will have something to report as income. by itself cmkx has no income so why become a reporting company. i'm guessing but i don't think cmkx will say anything till after gemm dividend. might be why ucad put out a pr about the vegas party and no mention of cmkx. try to shut up this cmkx suprise by the end of oct.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: Ok, here's one to ponder. Assuming we are a part of this split (still trying to find out for sure) from what I've turned up so far, it appears that our split shares will not be restricted. They only issued x amount of Rule 144 shares which should all be coded "restricted". They will remain restricted while our new split shares might not be. I'm still digging and will post what I find.
quote:Originally posted by will: Hey WorkMan, I think you misunderstand me. When my team does bad, I boo, when my team does good, I cheer. Lately there has been a lot more to boo about as opposed to cheering. I'm neither pumper or basher, I'm a realist with a skeptical approach to this bunch.
I'm not a big fan of people who boo others. It's one thing to be dissappointed or disheartened (I'm an X Saint's fan), but it's another thing to belittle and make fun of others...especially when they are supposedly on your team.
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Core samples??? They still around? Melvin said they'd be out months ago.
quote:Originally posted by WorkAHolic: I'm not a big fan of people who boo others. It's one thing to be dissappointed or disheartened (I'm an X Saint's fan), but it's another thing to belittle and make fun of others...especially when they are supposedly on your team.
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that makes sence UP. from my digging around over mm's covering a naked short with market bought ucad shares i found that restricted shares only come from ucad through the t/a. they are issued differant from unrestricted common shares. so if we do get the split they would have to issue some new restricted shares to cover our split restricted shares
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if those core samples had any value they would have never moved to a completely new site to drill more core samples. they would have stayed right where they were. truth is that they may have 1.9 million acres but only 200,000 acres might, JUST MIGHT have something worth mining. almost all will be real nice hunting grounds. shore gold has around 60,000 acres and are looking at only 1 mine
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quote:Originally posted by Teufelmann: What's up with all the 9,999,999 blocks going through????
I don't think there is. I assume whatever you are looking at only shows up to 7 digits. All of those buys are actually 10,000,000. I may be wrong, but that is what I am seeing.
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Regarding the post split shares, there is just too much garbage to dig through to determine if we get them and if they'll be free trading so I sent an e-mail to investor relations asking if we will participate and if so, what the status of the shares will be. I'll post any reply I get.
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Me and the old lady sold our double wide to buy this stock. We loaded up our '74 Bronco and we is headed to the big party! We'll keep you posted on our travels.
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quote:Me and the old lady sold our double wide to buy this stock. We loaded up our '74 Bronco and we is headed to the big party! We'll keep you posted on our travels.
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i'd hope so upside......as for the split we will know in 10 days and since cmkx isn't involved we might even get a real answer..lol
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Bill, you think there's any chance they might let us up there with picks and shovels and let us see what we can find?? Might be quicker than waiting for core samples (LOL).
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: if those core samples had any value they would have never moved to a completely new site to drill more core samples. they would have stayed right where they were. truth is that they may have 1.9 million acres but only 200,000 acres might, JUST MIGHT have something worth mining. almost all will be real nice hunting grounds. shore gold has around 60,000 acres and are looking at only 1 mine
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Hey guys, I saw this on another board. I hope it's not a repeat.
Ameritrade e-mail Thank you for contacting us today concerning dividends of UCAD paid to CMKX shareholders.
Companies paying a stock dividend as a spin-off will generally pay fractional shares due in the form of a "cash in lieu" payment, or by rounding up and paying an additional share. Also, this is normally done within about 10 business days from the payable date of the spin-off.
However, it is entirely up to the company paying the spin-off how they handle the fractional share, if at all. They can choose to ignore fractions, they can pool all fractions due, and perform a lottery type giveaway of whole shares to eligible shareholders, they can round up or they can pay cash in lieu.
At this time, we have not received official information indicating how the company intends to address fractional shares due. If they choose to pay cash in lieu, lottery or an additional share, it will automatically be posted to your account. If they choose to ignore it, round down, or do not assign an additional whole share to you in the lottery, then nothing additional will be posted to your account.
You may wish to contact shareholder services at the company, or their transfer agent to inquire how they intend to address the fractional shares due in the spin-off.
The entry for cash in lieu will appear on your transaction history page similar to a dividend payment.
If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message.
Sincerely,
Jason Becker Client Services, Ameritrade Division of Ameritrade, Inc.
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i agree ed...i'm sure we could get a hundred or so up there. we could do a 50 - 50 split. 50% of what we find goes to cmkx & we get 50% to pay for our troubles
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Ed (GREEN BARON) just said in Dr D's PalTalk room that the Urban Casavant interview will take place today at 5PM (Vegas time).
He also stated the interview will be aired Monday morning (Oct. 18), pre-market, on the Green Baron site.
He also expects CMKX will PR this.
Green Barron & Evergreen are the same paid pumpers... Evergreen Marketing, Inc. has received U.S. $2500 from PCS Edventures! (PCSV); we have received 250,000 shares of common stock from Cybertel (CYTP); we have received $2500 from a consultant of LJ International (JADE); in May of 2003 we received 5000 shares of common stock from a consultant of China Wireless Communications (CWLC) in January of 2004 we received $15,000; we have received $5,000 U.S. From a consultant of Office Managers, Inc (OFFM); we have received 200,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of International Sports and Media Group (ISME) Formerly San Diego Soccer Development (SDSD); we expect share compensation from a consultant of Warpradio.com (WRPR); we have received 50,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Pluristem Corp. (PLRS). We have received 4000 additional shares of Pluristem (PLRS) in May 2004 and we expect to receive another 5000 shares of PLRS in June 2004 for continued Green Baron updates and webcasts; we have received 85,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Gluv Corp. (GLVP); we received 2 million shares of V-Net Beverage, Inc. (VNTB) for public relations and promotion on The Green Baron and 2 million shares for designing, hosting, and launching a website in 2003. In 2004, we received an additional 3 million shares for ongoing consulting, website development, and webcast services; we received 2,000,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Tropical Beverage, Inc. (TPBV); we received 5,000 shares, and anticipate receiving an additional 5,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Alpine Air Express, Inc. ( ALPE); we have received 540,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of MISecurity Plus, Inc. (MSCU); we have been compensated 5,000 shares of common stock by Database solutions (DBSL); In April 2004 we received 15,000 shares of Caditec International (CDCI); we received 50,000 shares of common stock from The Dale Jarrett Racing Adventure (DJRT); We have received 17,000 shares of common stock from Nutri Pharmaceuticals Research, Inc. (NRIP); We received 15,000 shares of common stock and $1500 US from Consolidated Resources Group, Inc (CSRZ); We received $10,000 US from SE Global Equities Corp. (SEGB); We have received a total of 375,000 shares of American Scientific Resources (ASRO) from a consultant for webcast, promotion, and consulting services. We received 150,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Portrush Petroleum, Inc. (PRRPF); We have received 25,000 shares of common stock from a Marketing Consultant for BP International, Inc. (BPIL), We received $5,000 US and approximately 57,000 shares of restricted common stock from Power2Ship, Inc (PWRI), We have received an initial payment of $5,000 US from a consultant of BonusAmerica, Inc. (BAWC); We will receive 500,000 shares of common stock during October, 2004 from a consultant of Tropical Beverage, Inc. (TPBV) as compensation for the distribution of this and other material. Since we are receiving compensation and may hold stock in the company there may be an inherent conflict of interest in our statements and opinions and such statements and opinions cannot be considered independent
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the sec and the dtc will use fed calls to buy in illegal shorts for x days in a row, then they will let the stock "rest" for a day or two... (no forced buys at market)
then they do it again... and again etc...
i also believe cmkx is trading here due to roger and the sec and the dtc...
i believe illegal stock (held by hedge funds who shorted gobs of it to themselves in addition to the massive gobs they previously sold to us lowly retailers) is being forced to be returned to the market at their "cost" or less.
i believe uc is advertising cmkx (so blatently) for this reason... and i believe this has been going on for some time...
i also believe that these naked short hedgefunds have sold into the public float hundreds and hundreds of billions of shares that they cannot buy back at these prices... non of us selling... and that these shares will propel a short squeeze like none ever seen before...
but first things first... all illegal shares currently held by any naked short related hedgefund are being legally returned to the market at a minimum price...
some of these are likely being used to 'cover' other naked shorted shares and some are still being scooped up by cmkx'ers..
there is lots of "churning" going on to mask these trades but this is what i see anyway...
so my theory is feds take away all illegal long shares these stockgate scammers are holding (they had hoped to use gains on them to dump on a cmkx pps spike and then actually cover some of their real naked short position as cmkx fell back after such spikes...
i'll call it the "failed double short and now we have to cover on the moon theory"