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no upside, i didn't. i just left it there at .0002. i figured if ucad did get its papers in to remove the halt it might drive the pps up enough to go through. but if your watching its bouncing down to .0001. i figure i've held this thing this long might as well hold a bit longer...lol
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quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
Friday, October 29, 2004
Firms slapped with cease-trade order
Barry Glass/Daily Herald


Saskatchewan’s Financial Services Commission slapped a temporary cease-trade order on two companies and some people involved in diamond exploration in the Fort a la Corne area.
The order covers CMKM Diamonds Inc., its predecessor Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Urban Armand Joseph Casavant, David DeSormeau and Melvin A. O’Neil. The men are officers, directors and promoters of the companies.

Vic Pankratz, deputy director of enforcement for the commission, said the order was issued because the parties were selling securities in Saskatchewan without being registered to do so, trading securities without filing a prospectus and making misrepresentations about securities.

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i'd say selling securities without being registered to do so is selling them under the radar of the gov. bodies appointed to make sure everything is on the up & up. today is also the day ucad had to respond by. i'd also say that a company that had all its ducks in order would be able to produce any info the SEC would want to prove they are legit, or at least enough to prove they are not lying to the public. copies of claim registerations, records of the amount of gold mined in south america. the papers from south american gov. saying they have permission to mine. all things that were stated in pr's. these papers would or should not be hard to produce. as ucad has not , in a pr claimed anything other then they own a % of the rights in sask., info other then the legal agreement between them & cmkx would not be needed.


An accusation is not a conviction.

Yesterday was the date for responding in Saskatchewan, and as stated in my previous post, that was done but the Commission required additional information. That is the only reason for the delay.

The SEC hearing was scheduled for today. All necessary filings were probably made last week. We should be seeing the results of that soon, possibly trading tomorrow.

When a suspension is lifted, a stock will trade on the Pinks until an MM files a Form 2-11 in demonstration of compliance with Rule 15c2-11 of the Securities Act, 1933.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by legaleagle:
[B] An accusation is not a conviction.

Yesterday was the date for responding in Saskatchewan, and as stated in my previous post, that was done but the Commission required additional information. That is the only reason for the delay.

How come the Sask. release says....

AND WHEREAS the Commission has not received a request from the Respondents for a hearing

if in fact they have been contacted? Someone lying here???????


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quote:
Originally posted by Binky:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by legaleagle:
[B] An accusation is not a conviction.

Yesterday was the date for responding in Saskatchewan, and as stated in my previous post, that was done but the Commission required additional information. That is the only reason for the delay.

How come the Sask. release says....

AND WHEREAS the Commission has not received a request from the Respondents for a hearing

if in fact they have been contacted? Someone lying here???????


Feel free to call for yourself, binky: Phone: (306) 787-5645


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I just can't make my self phone. If what you say is true,it would totally destroy my faith in the written word, and especially in Press Releases. LOL

By the time I can check back tonight I'm sure someone will have cleared it up.


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quote:
Originally posted by Binky:
I just can't make my self phone. If what you say is true,it would totally destroy my faith in the written word, and especially in Press Releases. LOL

By the time I can check back tonight I'm sure someone will have cleared it up.


"AND WHEREAS the Commission has not received a request from the Respondents for a hearing"


If additional information is needed, then the Respondents would not request a hearing until they produce whatever information is required.



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originally posted by legaleagle:
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Yesterday was the date for responding in Saskatchewan, and as stated in my previous post, that was done but the Commission required additional information. That is the only reason for the delay.

Legal,
Are you sure they responded at all? Your post reads as though they did in fact respond but didn't have all of the necessary information. Do you actually know this to be the case?


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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by legaleagle:
Legal,
Are you sure they responded at all? Your post reads as though they did in fact respond but didn't have all of the necessary information. Do you actually know this to be the case?



According to the people at the Commission, yes.


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You've been in contact with them?
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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
You've been in contact with them?


Yes.


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Did they give you any other information you can share with us, like if the suspension is now indefinite or did they impose a new deadline to supply the needed information?
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wwjd wrote:

1)"This is what David said 'This day the Lord will hand you over to me, and I'll strike you down and cut off your head."
"David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine's sword and killed him and then cut off his head with the sword."

2)"Whatsoever a man sows, that shall he reap."
"I have done no one on the allstocks board wrong."

RESPONSE:

1) Now I know where those insurgents in Iraq got the idea to do likewise with innocents.

2) Couldn't prove it by me!!! What a bunch of BS. How many did she suck in to buying CMKX? How many slurs and personal bashings did she post? How many accusations did she post? How many of her posts were misleading? And she has the nerve to say, "I have done no one on the Allstocks board wrong."? Talk about la la land!!!!



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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Did they give you any other information you can share with us, like if the suspension is now indefinite or did they impose a new deadline to supply the needed information?

Response, and the supplying of information is the responsiblity of the Respondent. I did not ask for any information that was not public.


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Yes, legal, and I would like to know if you asked them about a "gag order" too. I saw nothing in the Commission's release about that either.

Based upon "circumstancial evidence", I would find them guilty. Look at their track record.

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So the only thing they told you, or were allowed to tell you, was that a response was filed on time and that's it?
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quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Yes, legal, and I would like to know if you asked them about a "gag order" too. I saw nothing in the Commission's release about that either.

Based upon "circumstancial evidence", I would find them guilty. Look at their track record.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited November 10, 2004).]


I have viewed their track record with great interest. I still invested.


This "gag order" that everyone speaks of was not an official government gag order, it was IMO self-imposed by counsel to prevent the compounding of any perceived problems, and to allow counsel to be the sole communicant to the SEC concerning the hearings. Public statements made prior to a hearing can be misconstued by public officials and cause irreparable harm to the presentation of the defense.


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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
So the only thing they told you, or were allowed to tell you, was that a response was filed on time and that's it?


Please be aware, that a response is not always evidentiary. Sometimes a response is a request for a continuance,e.g., for the collection and presentation of evidence.

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The 306 area code number you posted earlier, is that to the Sask. Securities Commission?
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self imposed gag order by cmkx???? not trying to be sarcastic legal but thats like TELLING a bear to poop in the woods, it comes natural for cmkx to keep their mouths shut. since i've bought into this stock the only things they say are fluff & pump statements. they increased the a/s by 300 billion 2 days before the own-by date on the first dividend and low & behold 279 billion of that increase ends up in the split yet no word from cmkx. the next dividend figures out to twice the a/s according to the amount of shares the pr stated & no word from cmkx. if their gag order got any tighter they would choke to death
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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
The 306 area code number you posted earlier, is that to the Sask. Securities Commission?


Yes


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quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
self imposed gag order by cmkx???? not trying to be sarcastic legal but thats like TELLING a bear to poop in the woods, it comes natural for cmkx to keep their mouths shut. since i've bought into this stock the only things they say are fluff & pump statements. they increased the a/s by 300 billion 2 days before the own-by date on the first dividend and low & behold 279 billion of that increase ends up in the split yet no word from cmkx. the next dividend figures out to twice the a/s according to the amount of shares the pr stated & no word from cmkx. if their gag order got any tighter they would choke to death


As I stated earlier, I have been involved in this stock for quite some time. Roger Glenn has announced that he is attempting to get this corporation reporting. The company is a conglomerate of many interactive companies, in the role of J.V.'s to CMKM, and are stockholders in varying quantities and percentages. The job of pulling all of these people and holdings together is a monumental task. As soon as Mr. Glenn began that undertaking, the same rules would apply, as they do to the SEC hearings. "Do not make any statements of substance publicly". Counsel would not want anything, other than "fluff" to be released to the public because it would also be released to those people who might be otherwise considered enemies of the corporation. I'll let you fill in the blanks.


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i bought in before glen came into the picture, nothing has changed. i do own stock & i did not buy hoping to lose money legal. about 2 months after i bought in the 400 billion number came out & the only thing ever said by anyone with cmkx was melvin screaming on pal talk the o/s was not 400 billion. i'm not questioning whats going on i'm just stating that a gag order with cmkx self imposed or otherwise ir redundent.
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quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i bought in before glen came into the picture, nothing has changed. i do own stock & i did not buy hoping to lose money legal. about 2 months after i bought in the 400 billion number came out & the only thing ever said by anyone with cmkx was melvin screaming on pal talk the o/s was not 400 billion. i'm not questioning whats going on i'm just stating that a gag order with cmkx self imposed or otherwise ir redundent.


The only official numbers that I have seen in the last six months are those reported by the Nevada SOS. Those numbers are AS, not OS. You can play with the dividend splits any way you want and come up with different numbers.

Was the distribution rate 8% as some speculated? We won't know until the "play" is over. If Roger Glenn is handling this properly, no one but he and principals will know the answer until it's over and decided.

I can't say definitively that this stock has been "naked shorted", or not. But I think all of the "signs" point to it. Please don't ask me to list all of the "signs", everyone has heard them a dozen times or more. This like the rest of the questions can only be answered by the MM's, the principals, and hopefully now, the SEC.

If it has been naked shorted, then there will be multiple feints, and actions taken to misdirect the MM's, until counsel is ready to "show his hand".

Unfortunately, we shareholders will not know the direction he is going until we are there.

There are many confusing things occuring with this stock, but it is in that confusion that major profits can be made or lost.

The great thing about CMKM is that you don't have to risk much in order to capitalize if they are what they have said they are.

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I dont beleive God was being mocked in here so much as the attitudes of the ones stating that god wanted CMKX to Flourish.

while you are on the bible kick again it also states 1 Timothy 6:9-10 :

9 However, those who are determined to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and many senseless and hurtful desires, which plunge men into destruction and ruin. 10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things, and by reaching out for this love some have been led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with many pains.

quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:

The wealth which the wicked have gained from exploiting the poor will be taken from them and given to those who will pity them.

I believe that to be true. I have continued to accumulate CMKX and have a full boatload now. I was and still am convinced that CMKX is naked shorted to high heavens and that there are powerful people with a vested interest in the failure of CMKX. Claiming victory early (like Goliath) may be your only chance to gloat (like Goliath). The crow was at dinner that day but was the eater instead of the eaten. Goliath was also at dinner that day but didn't get to enjoy it.

God Bless-Debi

The CMKX part is IMO- The Bible part is what it is.


29,000 children die every day of starvation and hunger related diseases....but not on a day of hope....visit http://cmkxdayofhope.********s37.com


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Regardless of ones religious beliefs or lack thereof, this thread was a better place when they were all here. I'm talking about Debi, Van, Noah and any others that fled. We might not have agreed with their positions but at least there was an even exchange of ideas. Now it's pretty much just a handfull of us left shouting at one another. I can remember back when the comment was made almost daily about this thread being so good because both positive and negative views were accepted, discussed, even criticized but at the end of the day, everyone was still friendly and tolerant of one another for the most part. Somewhere along the line it went awfully wrong and now we're left with just us old CMKX curmudgeons.
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UpSide

You write, "it went awfully wrong and now we're left with just us old CMKX curmudgeons."
If the PPS was .0005 those Pumpers would still be here.

MdeC

mdec do you know you can edit your posts when you make a mistake? Just click the edit icon above your posts.

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I don't think they would. I don't know how long you've been following this thread but it really did take a nasty turn for the worse over the summer. It devolved into name calling and personal attacks and discussing the stock became secondary.
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About a year and i read most of it
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Got pretty ugly at times, didn't it?
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Yep

Still does? Havent had the complaints of late.

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Still does Bob but now it's amongst ourselves so no one really cares one way or the other.
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like thinking tends to gravitate to itself. there are so many bad signs with cmkx that those that have serious dreams for their future tied up in this stock will not tolerate anything challenging those dreams. how many other stocks out there are written up in differant places because of the "cult like" following. we have ended up with a handful of the old crew left in this thread but we are the ones that brought some form of reason to cmkx, if thats possible. new investors are rare. i think anyone looking at cmkx even for a quick play like most penny stocks would run very quickly from cmkx after only a quick glance at the little info there is about it.
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Well winter is setting in.I sure would hope that they have a plan.And drills can be set-up soon on an anomaly or two of the hundreds CMKX has claims for.We're going to need rumours for next years races.

Bill,aren't you the one that said you weren't selling till CMKX hit a dollar a while back?And then now it's tomarrow,maybe.You crack me up.

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Up, you wrote:

I'm talking about Debi, Van, Noah and any others that fled. We might not have agreed with their positions but at least there was an even exchange of ideas.
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Up, we may agree as to what CMKX is but there certainly was no "even" exchange of ideas when it came to any opinions differing from theirs...meaning Debi, Van and Noah.

No one drove them away. They chose to go elsewhere so they did not have to think about objective observations and opinions with which they vehemently disagreed. They took the cowards' way out and covered their ears and closed their minds!

Come on, Up, they are still over on ct spouting religion and spinning yarns about NSS, RG, UC, etc and believing everything Dr. D, Green Baron, Sterling tell them. It has become their cult board. You have checked them out over there and you know it is the same old speculation and nonsense.

If they were here, they would be subject to the same scrutiny as before...that is what they cannot handle...and never could.


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I have a couple thoughts regarding the faithful, and their departure. Oh, they had a degree of deniability regarding personal attacks. They would be sarcastic, and dismissive with dissenters, but used byrd for the direct personal attacking, especially of Wallace. They would be civil but dismiss any opposing view with remarks like:
"you don't understand this stock"
"you find negatives where there aren't any"
"you kvetch too much"
Very condescending!
Typical for these type people. When I first went into business, I partnered with a "born again Christian". He had the ten commandments displayed in the entrance of his building, and I'm sure it gave everyone who saw them a feeling of fair play and security. As our business relationship progressed I notice that he and his son were very careful not to lie, but never were fully forthcoming either, they told half thruths, or avoided the truth. They owed everyone with pockets, and are still moving their offices to avoid being on the up and up. If you met them, you'd like them, full of personality, and gifted salesmen, but they would three card monty your pants off. Great guys but always manage that degree of diniability. That's somewhat how I see the people that departed here. Nice people on the surface, but avoid truth, tell no lies, only 1/2 truths. Maybe that isn't totally accurate, but it is a good comparison. They didn't curse, cuss, and bash dissenters, they encouraged someone else to do it, and surely gave him support and amunition to do it, while they stepped back from the action, and remained civilly hateful. Then they conveniently left for greener pastures. I read noahs posts on the other board, and he wished he didn't get kicked from here, so he could have responded to remarks made here last night. Well, we and noah know all he has to do is asked to come back, and Bob would arrange it easily. See, he didn't lie, he did get booted, but forgot to tell everyone he could come back if he asked like a man. This is the kind of things I have learned to expect from people professing to superior, better, chosen, annointed, saved, etc... Be very careful not to lie, but skirt the truth, and only tell 1/2 truths.
It's ok with me. People can do and believe whatever they like, I don't make fun of them for believing what they believe. They need to believe it to live a decent life. For myself I don't care. I see religion and God as something personal for each person to come to peace with themselves. I have had a couple near death experiences, and what I came to believe is personal. I don't care what others think, do or say regarding mine or their faith. Do I think it's a bit over the top to read about David smoting the Philistines with a jawbone of an ass, and referencing CMKX at the same time. Yea I do, but so what. I don't care about David or the dead Philistines they have nothing to do with my Freetrade account, or CMKX. What I do care about is these people acting like they were abused and martyred here while all the while they were being condescending, decietful, and using others to do their dirty work managing that degree of separation and diniability. Good people are good, they can behave poorly, badly, but if they're good people you will come to know it. Bad people are bad, they can behave grandly, well, but if they're bad people you will come to know that too.

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