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Posted by will on :
 
Ok, VI was closed. Let's continue here.
Upside, I thought I was your buddy. My feelings are hurt, I'm crushed.
New Topic, and I had to mispell Surprise !

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
Hope you all saw my last post on VI, here's more interesting tidbits.

Maybe you all know this; after checking corporations with the Casavant name, I checked resident agent "Business Works, Inc." Check these corporations out:


Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: CANADIAN DIAMOND FIELDS INTERNATIONAL, INC.

Type: Corporation File Number: C11974-2003 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: May 19, 2003
Status: Current list of officers on file Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Secretary: JAMES KINNEY
Address: HCR 33 BOX 2594

LAS VEGAS NV 89124-
Treasurer: JAMES KINNEY
Address: HCR 33 BOX 2594

LAS VEGAS NV 89124-
-----
Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: AMDI PETROLEUM INC.

Type: Corporation File Number: C23178-2004 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: August 27, 2004
Status: Initial list of officers filed Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: STEVE RADFORD
Address: 120 BEACHWOOD TRIAL

MICHIGAN CITY IN 46360-
Secretary: JOHN CRANDELL
Address: 1452 BRAMFIELD CT

LAS VEGAS NV 89102-
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
----
Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: DESERT STOCK TRANSFER COMPANY

Type: Corporation File Number: C17484-2004 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: July 01, 2004
Status: Initial list of officers filed Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: URBAN CASAVANT
Address: 4955 S DURANGO #214

LAS VEGAS NV 89113-
Secretary: URBAN CASAVANT
Address: 4955 S DURANGO #214

LAS VEGAS NV 89113-
Treasurer: URBAN CASAVANT
Address: 4955 S DURANGO #214

LAS VEGAS NV 89113-
----
Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: VI-COM HOLDING INC.

Type: Corporation File Number: C4470-2004 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: February 24, 2004
Status: Initial list of officers filed Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: VICTOR CASAVANT
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Secretary: VICTOR CASAVANT
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Treasurer: BEVERLY CASAVANT
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
----
Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: STONEHENGE INC

Type: Corporation File Number: C14427-2001 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: June 01, 2001
Status: Default Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Treasurer: JON THIRIOT
Address: PO BOX 30234

LAS VEGAS NV 89173-
----
Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: SL INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENTS INC.

Type: Corporation File Number: C16464-2003 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: July 10, 2003
Status: Current list of officers on file Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: STEVE RADFORD
Address: 120 BEACHWOOD TRAIL

MICHIBAN CITY ID 46360-
Secretary: JOHN CRANDELL
Address: 1452 BRAMFIELD CT

LAS VEGAS NV 89102-
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
----
Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: SILVER FOX CAPITAL INC.

Type: Corporation File Number: C3830-2004 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: February 17, 2004
Status: Initial list of officers filed Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
----
It would appear that these are very BUSY people.

Copied from http://sos.state.nv.us/begin.asp



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

Man! That closed fast! Is 53 the magic number of pages or did I say something wrong?
Hope not!

I can understand why you might be hurt. Just the other day I noted that Upside referred to you as his friend. LOL
 


Posted by will on :
 
Yea, he's fickled.
Have no idea why the thread closed. I'm sure it wasn't anything you said. If threads were left open after some of the comments I have made then I'm sure that you weren't the cause.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

Man! That closed fast! Is 53 the magic number of pages or did I say something wrong?
Hope not!

I can understand why you might be hurt. Just the other day I noted that Upside referred to you as his friend. LOL



 


Posted by will on :
 
Wallace, do me a favor. Seeing that I mispelled Surprise in the topic would you please open a new thread CMKX VII. I think that would be ironic if the CMKX Thread was authored by you.
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
Heh, heh
What do you suppose this company was all about? LOL

Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: EYECANDY ENTERTAINMENT INC.

Type: Corporation File Number: C19808-1999 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: August 11, 1999
Status: Revoked Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: DAVID DESORMEAU (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89014-
President: JOHN D. GUZMAN
Address: 2519 PUTING GREEN DRIVE

HENDERSON NV 89014-
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 3340 S TOPAZ #100

LAS VEGAS NV 89121-
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 3340 S TOPAZ #100

LAS VEGAS NV 89121-


I wish I had more brains for this right now. Holey moley, the names in my searches keep repeating themselves. BUSY, BUSY folks.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

Don't think that would be a good idea. How about asking Allstocks to correct the spelling. No offense.

PS: Besides, maybe it's not so bad. Makes you look less intelligent. LMAO
Also, maybe you could rename it "CMKX - A Chip Shot!

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Don't be shy, I think it's an excellent idea!
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

Don't think that would be a good idea. How about asking Allstocks to correct the spelling. No offense.



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

Uuh, uuh! You reopen it. I like "CMKX-A Chip Shot"!

Also thinking of benefits to Allstocks.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Nah, will let it be. No one is joining us anyway. LOL
We hijacked this thread. It's done, mispelling and all.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

Uuh, uuh! You reopen it. I like "CMKX-A Chip Shot"!



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
chip shot huh? As in poker chip? Will have something to do with your shirt and chip?
 
Posted by will on :
 
ME? Hey, Joey was the one who took 17 shirts. I had three, one for my brother who owns this crap, one for my brother-in-law, who owns 250K of my 1.5M. and one for Me. I did have two extra poker chips though.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
chip shot huh? As in poker chip? Will have something to do with your shirt and chip?


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Maybe I misspelled the first word. Didn't I say "Cheap Shot"? Damn!!!!

Will, who's Joey? Is that the guy in Stalag 17 who kept in the top bunk and played some tune. Cannot remember what that thing is called.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
chip shot huh? As in poker chip? Will have something to do with your shirt and chip?

Hey Wallace,
Just so you know, I misplaced my chip from the Spring Nationals in Chicago, so I got another one from this recent Chicago race so I could post a pic for you, as requested, but quite frankly, our car has been performing so badly lately, I disposed of that stupid thing. I started getting supersticious. Winged it a half mile. LOL Hope I can find the other one! Dangit.

Glad you finally have your own. But, if bad things start happening to you...


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Wait a minute Will. 3? I seem to remember you taking 4. By the way, the one I took has already been relegated to my wifes closet of rags. Never even got the chance to wear it. I really wanted to walk around the neighborhood with a "Got CMKX?" shirt on and see if anyone knew what it meant.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I'll have to check, but when I finally caught up to them again, about Wednesday this week, I only found three.
I haven't got the guts to wear it yet either. It's a race to see if I get courage before my dog goes in heat. If the latter ocurrs first it will become a doggy diaper.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Wait a minute Will. 3? I seem to remember you taking 4. By the way, the one I took has already been relegated to my wifes closet of rags. Never even got the chance to wear it. I really wanted to walk around the neighborhood with a "Got CMKX?" shirt on and see if anyone knew what it meant.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Lanebro,

Sorry for the bad luck! Maybe I should chuck my cheap chip too?
*******************************************

Upside, you wrote:
"I really wanted to walk around the neighborhood with a "Got CMKX?" shirt on"

Are you crazy? My scarecrow is nothing but sticks and straw now. The neighbors tore the poor guy apart!! Better think twice. LOL


 


Posted by will on :
 
Wallace,
Joey was the guy who atteneded the Chicagoland race with me and my good firend, Upside.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

Oh, yes, now I remember that you previously had mentioned Joey in a post.

Guess I better get off and get some sleep.
Good night.
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
LOL whats going on here?

Call your thread;

CMKX VII - Two Chips Short of a Poker Game

[This message has been edited by tic_toc (edited October 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Wallace#1
Member posted October 09, 2004 23:06
-----------
tradingpennys,
Well, the end of that CMKX T-Shirt story is that I took it up to the farm and tried to get the bull to wear it. No dice, so I threw it on a pile of BS. And, would you believe it, a bear came out of the woods and grabbed it. It's now called the CMKX bear and hides out under an old, broken down oil
drilling rig out in the boonies.


________________________
Your on a roll! Don't stop there... lol.
________________________
Lanebro - good work!! You'll be busy for days digging up all the company's. Your right they are waaaaaaay busy! lol

 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Oh yeah, WwwWWwwallace.. Will had a wonderful idea about you starting a thread. That's a riot!! lol lol
And how ironic!!
Anyone notice how nice it has been on here? No aliens are abounding us on a regular basis. I kinda like it.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
cool a new thread...got tired of scrolling sideways..............

noah.....if i thought UC was going to increase the a/s to 1.6 trillion for the CIM dividend then i'd have to have a way to explain it going back to 779 billion for the gemm dividend as i quit taking drugs 14 yrs ago i'd have trouble doing that. what i said was the CIM dividend looks as if it was cut in half to 20 billion. we know the a/s of CIM is 25 million as of sept 21st so UC has to raise the a/s a bit before the pay date. since he already has 1 company with a stupid o/s ya think maybe he might learn something and issue 40 billion & keep 20 for the company.it would leave a good shell in his control to swing cmkx into at some time in the future with a bit better o/s of 20 billion not 779 billion. and if he really was intesrested in increasing shareholder value he would transfer the uranium claims he just bought to CIM and take it public since the new claims won't do much for any company with a 779 billion o/s
 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

How about asking Allstocks to correct the spelling.


I tried on the thread I started two threads ago to have allstocks correct the heading but they said they are unable to do that.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
I know it's not proper to post rumors, but you guys have to hear this.
A couple of months ago there was banter at the track that there might be an oil mining company sponsoring a drag car, much along same lines as CMK. Interesting to see the AMDI Petroleum incorporation just this past August. And UC incorporates a stock transfer company?
Wonder if there's a connection. August is about the time teams get their next year's sponsors together. And the past few days brings banter to our racing message boards about a new sponsor coming on next year.


 


Posted by will on :
 
Then I guess we live with our blemishes, besides it will give the faithful something to rally around.
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
I tried on the thread I started two threads ago to have allstocks correct the heading but they said they are unable to do that.



 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lanebro:
I know it's not proper to post rumors, but you guys have to hear this.
A couple of months ago there was banter at the track that there might be an oil mining company sponsoring a drag car, much along same lines as CMK. Interesting to see the AMDI Petroleum incorporation just this past August. And UC incorporates a stock transfer company?
Wonder if there's a connection. August is about the time teams get their next year's sponsors together. And the past few days brings banter to our racing message boards about a new sponsor coming on next year.


Actually, there is a story at dragracecentral.com about a 2005 sponsorship announcement coming soon, plus a 2005 new team announcement! Casavant Racing Corporation incorporates this past March? Hmmmmm
I'll keep you informed.

 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
The only connection that AMDI Petroleum has to CMKX that I can see is thru DESORMEAU.

If you check it out a lot of companies registered in Nevada, Desormeau is Resident Agent for quite a few that are entirely unconnected to CMKX.
http://sos.state.nv.us/rasrh3.asp

Type in his name.
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
The only connection that AMDI Petroleum has to CMKX that I can see is thru DESORMEAU.

If you check it out a lot of companies registered in Nevada, Desormeau is Resident Agent for quite a few that are entirely unconnected to CMKX.
http://sos.state.nv.us/rasrh3.asp

Type in his name.


I absolutely agree with you that Desormeau has many unrelated things going on, but he is connected at the hip to Urban. I would imagine they are involved in a lot of things we cannot see on any website. They are brilliant, remember?

Did you see this?
---------------------------
Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: CASAVANT RACING CORPORATION <<<<<<<<<

Type: Corporation File Number: C6068-2004 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: March 10, 2004
Status: Initial list of officers filed Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: DAVID DESORMEAU <<<<<<<<
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU <<<<<<<<<<
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU <<<<<<<<<<
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT


 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
I dunno. I think you are reading into it too much.
http://www.incparadise.com/text/registered-agent.htm

This website offers Nevada Registered Agent services.

Search on the Nevade SOS site for JOHN VANHARA who operates as a Resident Agent and you get 26 pages of companies with his name associated.

You also get 10 pages of companies with him listed as president, secretary and treasurer including his own outfit EASTBIZ.COM, INC. which has Jan Vanhara listed as resident agent.

I guess that Desormeau is no more entagled in Casavants opertations than Vanhara is for the 260 something companies the come up under his name.

[This message has been edited by tic_toc (edited October 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
LOL maybe Desormeau thought hed jump on the Casavant band wagon and incorporated his own Nevada coporation in the Casavant name. Expect to see him peddling merchandise at the races soon.

[This message has been edited by tic_toc (edited October 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tic_toc:
[B]I dunno. I think you are reading into it too much.
http://www.incparadise.com/text/registered-agent.htm

---------
I guess I'm pretty suspicious because of the petro company sponsorship rumors and a new racing team announcement. It'll all come out in a few weeks. Hope I'm wrong for all you long and strongs' sakes.

Good luck. I gotta get back to the hospital now. My sister's having a baby! She's long and strong in labor! LOL

 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lanebro:
I know it's not proper to post rumors, but you guys have to hear this.
A couple of months ago there was banter at the track that there might be an oil mining company sponsoring a drag car, much along same lines as CMK. Interesting to see the AMDI Petroleum incorporation just this past August. And UC incorporates a stock transfer company?
Wonder if there's a connection. August is about the time teams get their next year's sponsors together. And the past few days brings banter to our racing message boards about a new sponsor coming on next year.


I think there is a connection. I saw something to that effect.. I think yesterday. I would have to retrace my steps...
If I recall the info I am talking about is Casavant was into oil around 1996 or 95.

 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
It "seems" to me that Urban Casavant is reselling old idea's. Or should I say old news. As far as the claims are concerned. He has been in this game for sometime now - the "claim game" w/ magnetic surveys. Looking over old information from previous exploration co's he had started in the past and the claims he had and the testing (this info is in old PR's from the mid 90's). If you do a search on the minerals in Saskashwan (spelling...lol) you will find maybe 2 of the claims are not classified. I dunno if thay had slipped through the cracks or what... But all other's had been removed from the public eye.

I had been also thinking about that court info I found accusing
Urban of stock manipulation...
and noah saying there wasn't any more court filings to find out if it were true... well yanno what? That's a bunch of hog wash, Urban could have easily avoided court records of that nature by settling OUT OF COURT! That way it would NOT be recorded that HE WAS! LOL
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
I was trying to find some dirt on John Dhonau as he seems to be a key figure behind a lot of the goings on.

LOL what is a Kentucky Colonel?

It seems to be some esteemed staus not associated with fried chicken!?!

Dhonau came up on a list Kentucky Colonels.
I guess this isnt a bad thing to be on.
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:xZ6CWPqLvt8J:www.kycolonels.org/report_04.pdf+J.E.+DHONAU+nevada&hl=en
 


Posted by will on :
 
There was a professional basketball team in the old ABA known as the Kentucky Colonels.
Isn't he from KY, or was active in businesses there?

quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
I was trying to find some dirt on John Dhonau as he seems to be a key figure behind a lot of the goings on.

LOL what is a Kentucky Colonel?

It seems to be some esteemed staus not associated with fried chicken!?!

Dhonau came up on a list Kentucky Colonels.
I guess this isnt a bad thing to be on.
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:xZ6CWPqLvt8J:www.kycolonels.or g/report_04.pdf+J.E.+DHONAU+nevada&hl=en



 


Posted by will on :
 
Looked at the link you furnished. Couldn't tell quite what it was all about. Looked like some good doers society.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Been busy all day. Taking a bit of a break so decided to check out this thread.

I saw that "colonel" thing too. Dismissed it as meaningless for our purposes. I saw another, where I think Dhonau was referred to as a Pfc.

No one wants to own up to sending me that CMKX T-Shirt and Chip? You folks going to make me check out all the profiles of posters on this thread so maybe I can check it against the post office stamp?

Took my chip to a casino and was told I could not gamble with it, but that they would give me 50,000 shs of CIM for it. LOL
Declined their offer and told them the chip is worth more than that number of CIM shs.
They raised it to 100K shs, so I DUMPED my CMKX chip!!

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Must get back to what I have been working on today. Repairing an old toy train motor.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
It appears that this thread is dying. Perhaps for a reason.

I found the following regarding mining operations by CMKI and UCAD, as well as some others I looked for. There are no current operational mines in Canada, nor anywhere else in the world, under either of these company names, or their alleged affiliates:
http://www.mininglife.com/countries/countryprofile.asp?Country=Canada
http://www.mininglife.com/operations/index.asp

This seems like a pretty significant issue.

Pretty hard to find anything of value with NO MINES.

Tell me you all knew this, and this is old news. Am I missing something here?


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lanebro:
It appears that this thread is dying. Perhaps for a reason.

I found the following regarding mining operations by CMKI and UCAD, as well as some others I looked for. There are no current operational mines in Canada, nor anywhere else in the world, under either of these company names, or their alleged affiliates:
http://www.mininglife.com/countries/countryprofile.asp?Country=Canada
http://www.mininglife.com/operations/index.asp

This seems like a pretty significant issue.

Pretty hard to find anything of value with NO MINES.

Tell me you all knew this, and this is old news. Am I missing something here?



"Pretty hard to find anything of value with NO MINES."

BULLSEYE !


 


Posted by lanebro on :
 

"Pretty hard to find anything of value with NO MINES."
---------------------------

After having done VERY LITTLE DD, I found this very substantial information.
Can it really be true that all these buyers are so naive as to keep waiting for real diamonds, or uranium, or whatever?
Or, perhaps... could they be...paid pumpers?
The reason I post here is because I'm truly sick of the brazen hawking going on at the races. It's bad for business. Really. Nothing worse than having ppl chase you down to forcibly hand you their wares. Free or not.
Personally, I never would have bought into a diamond mine without having investigated at least a bit.
Now, penny stocks / for what they're worth, maybe... but I'm too tight with my money. LOL

No Offense Intended, to Anyone.

[This message has been edited by lanebro (edited October 11, 2004).]
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lanebro:
[b]It appears that this thread is dying. Perhaps for a reason.

I found the following regarding mining operations by CMKI and UCAD, as well as some others I looked for. There are no current operational mines in Canada, nor anywhere else in the world, under either of these company names, or their alleged affiliates:
http://www.mininglife.com/countries/countryprofile.asp?Country=Canada
http://www.mininglife.com/operations/index.asp

This seems like a pretty significant issue.

Pretty hard to find anything of value with NO MINES.

Tell me you all knew this, and this is old news. Am I missing something here?



"Pretty hard to find anything of value with NO MINES."

BULLSEYE !

[/B][/QUOTE]

The only thing on this board that has to do with Bull is Bulls#!t.

This mining site hasn't been updated since the reconstruction. Great find, guys. Typical of all of your trash discoveries.

I think this is 2004. That's a fact!

This board is really dead. But don't let me spoil it for you. I'll leave you all alone to have your fun.

Jeezzzz...........


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
lanebro,

I doubt that the thread is dying. Probably people away for the holiday.

tradingpennys,

Read your profile. I use to collect old pendulum clocks and fix them. Once had about 250...down to about 30 now. Sounds like we have a few similar interests, including collectibles.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 11, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Work,

We all certainly know one thing for certain.
CMKX is no "bull"...IT'S ALL "BEAR". LOL

Think it will close at .0001 next week?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 11, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Wallace,


It can only go down one tick from .0002.


Any real good news it goes up ten clicks.


Also, some new info coming out shows a correction in the OS figures. Stay tuned. Don't count your basher chickens just yet.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I hope USCI hits .001 by wednesday and CMKX hits .0001 by wednesday.

I sell all my USCI and buy millions more of CMKX just in time for the big run.


Would give me close to 100 million shares. Just a little 3 bagger would make me a happy camper.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
lanebro,

I doubt that the thread is dying. Probably people away for the holiday.

tradingpennys,

Read your profile. I use to collect old pendulum clocks and fix them. Once had about 250...down to about 30 now. Sounds like we have a few similar interests, including collectibles.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 11, 2004).]


I had intended to ask you what you collected since I had read on here that you were into trains. I have so much stuff I have aquired, I am sure we have alot in common.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
RJR,

You wrote:
It can only go down one tick from .0002.

Any real good news it goes up ten clicks.

Also, some new info coming out shows a correction in the OS figures. Stay tuned. Don't count your basher chickens just yet.
*************************************

Some time back I told you pumpers there is another step beyond .0001......BK.

Any real good news would be quite welcome. What happened to all the "past" good news put out by CMKX? Not so good, was it?

As to info on the OS, I will believe it when I see it and, then, only when it can be confirmed by a disinterested third party...not anyone with a vested interest in CMKX and grossly biased.

 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
BY now everybody should know there is something wrong with this picture here

I mean the PPS.

uranium and the price goes down ,instead of going up

i guess the problem is called NAKED SHORTING

OR would there be any other explanation?

there was this wild theory a couple of months ago to buy the cmkx related stocks (like ucad),because the MARKET MAKERS
WILL HAVE TO BUY THOSE TO COVER

NOW SINCE THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER
HERE ARE THE RESULTS(LAST WEEK)

GEMM = UP 400%
UCAD = UP 120%
SGGM = UP 90%

CMKX = ???????????

what is going on ?

CMKX should have went up more tan the related companies

who`s shareholders are getting a dividend ucad`s?
no cmkx!

have there been any news on jiuna mining (up 400 %)itself besides the relationship to cmkx.
no!
there only have been positive developments at cmkx
i guess they have to cover at .0002
i`m shure they increased there short position on the day before the dividend ,
WHO POSSIBLY WOULD HAVE SOLD THAT DAY
they must have pulled the shares out of cylinder hat.


no!

 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
I Think this thread is dying where is everybody .
maybe people are tired of nobody pulling up any interesting information on cmkx
uranium claims? anybody?

actually i haven`t read anything interesting here lately
a couple of people attacking each other
irrelevant stuff

 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by XchangeMODE:
BY now everybody should know there is something wrong with this picture here

I mean the PPS.

uranium and the price goes down ,instead of going up

i guess the problem is called NAKED SHORTING

OR would there be any other explanation?

there was this wild theory a couple of months ago to buy the cmkx related stocks (like ucad),because the MARKET MAKERS
WILL HAVE TO BUY THOSE TO COVER

NOW SINCE THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER
HERE ARE THE RESULTS(LAST WEEK)

GEMM = UP 400%
UCAD = UP 120%
SGGM = UP 90%

CMKX = ???????????

what is going on ?

CMKX should have went up more tan the related companies

who`s shareholders are getting a dividend ucad`s?
no cmkx!

have there been any news on jiuna mining (up 400 %)itself besides the relationship to cmkx.
no!
there only have been positive developments at cmkx
i guess they have to cover at .0002
i`m shure they increased there short position on the day before the dividend ,
WHO POSSIBLY WOULD HAVE SOLD THAT DAY
they must have pulled the shares out of cylinder hat.


no!


1. CMKX is diluting. Urban Casavant is a "creature of habit".

 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
The people attacking each other is an out right lie. Since the "other's" left it has been REALLY nice in here
quote:
Originally posted by XchangeMODE:
I Think this thread is dying where is everybody .
maybe people are tired of nobody pulling up any interesting information on cmkx
uranium claims? anybody?

actually i haven`t read anything interesting here lately
a couple of people attacking each other
irrelevant stuff



 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
dilution would have happened on a day the shares came to the market
it didn`t happen that the price went down when people were talking about dilution
the price went down recently dividend,uranium
can you explain that.
the trading before and after the 6th of oct.?
what was that?


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
look at the o/s of gemm & ucad. cmkx has 779 billion o/s say what you want but that is the number of shares that got the dividend and the same holds true for gemm. any person looking at cmkx without winning the lotto dreams clouding their vision has to know that it doesn't matter what they find or how much the pps will never give ppl the return too many have hyped. the dividends could end up costing more to sell then they will ever be worth. anyone not in a drugged like state from all the hype will see these things & sell. i still see a profit sometime in the future maybe even before the r/s from h**l that is coming. the cim dividned says 1.6 trillion but since it can't go from 779 billion to 1.6 trillion and then back to 779 billion something is going on and it hurts cmkx because ppl see a company that is not willing to be open & honest with its shareholders
 
Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
The people attacking each other is an out right lie. Since the "other's" left it has been REALLY nice in here

Very sad...the "other's" you mention were here first and posted without fighting with each other. They just got tired of being continually bashed by "saviors", "newbie protectors", and "people with nothing better to do that pick fights with them".

Sad.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by netsec:
quote:
Very sad...the "other's" you mention were here first and posted without fighting with each other. They just got tired of being continually bashed by "saviors", "newbie protectors", and "people with nothing better to do that pick fights with them".

Sad.


I don't think it matters "who was here first", that makes it sound like little kids in a sandbox, but, if that's the criteria were using, I can say that myself, Will, WWJD, Glassman, and many others I'm forgetting have been here from the very beginning on thread # 1, started by everyones favorite heifer, CashCowMoo.


 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
THE 779 BILLION O/S IS BASED ON SOME BASIC DIVIDEND CALC.
not proven until guilty .
i asked why the price didn`t go down when the o/s dividend calc. of 779.b was figured out a while ago.
WHY did the PPS GO DOWN AROUND THE 6TH,
when nobody who has been holding would have sold????????????
same with the uranium claims???

and the increase in price sggm,ucad,GEMM
Going up as we speak???????????????

that 779.b. o/s talk did start a while ago not last week !!!!!!!!

those were my questions!!!!!

DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF AGAIN.


 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by netsec:
I don't think it matters "who was here first", that makes it sound like little kids in a sandbox, but, if that's the criteria were using, I can say that myself, Will, WWJD, Glassman, and many others I'm forgetting have been here from the very beginning on thread # 1, started by everyones favorite heifer, CashCowMoo.


Actually Upside your little connation of little kinds in a sandbox is a little naive. If you have 4 little kids arrive at a sandbox first and they all play nice together, they are willing to share the sandbox with anyone that comes along...you have a pretty nice sandbox. Lets just say then that those first few kids have to deal with a couple of new kids that bring baseball bats to the sandbox to beat up all the regular kids just so that they can have the sandbox to themselves. Sort of like kings of the sandbox. If you were one of the regular kids you would probably ask a parent to help control the problem of kids with baseball bats. And I do believe they tried, but the parent (Allstocks) in charge of the sandbox told the regular kids that the bullys were allowed to beat anyone up they wanted with their baseball bats. So the regular kids looked around at what they had and decided that their probably was a better sandbox around that allowed the kids to play together without fear of getting beaten with baseball bats by bullys looking to control the sandbox.

Like I said, sad.

 


Posted by thinkmoney on :
 
It is so sad and disheartening for me to see cmkx be at .0001 -.0002 while gemm is 90%+.
Seems like insiders planned a run on gemm, ucad to fatten their wallets even more at expense of cmkx.
 
Posted by will on :
 
The "others" that left were mostly the "faithful". I might add the diehard faithful, who without a dubt are still painting a gingho rosey picture of CMKX elsewhere. They left because they didn't want to hear dissenting points of view. They are so insecure about the future of their investments they cannot stand one iota of reality. Hey, if I was in over my head with $15,000 to $25,000 + wrapped up in this ambiguous company I wouldn't want to hear anything negative, whether it was true or not, fact or fiction. They went with like minded people who want to continue fooling themselves. When their invest is worthless, they still won't give up, they will try to convince themselves that they made a good decision.
If/when this thing ever see .0006 -.0009 they would be foolish to continue thinking it has a future beyond that.
 
Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
90%??????

GEMM is up 500% since last week!!!!

and who owns gemm?

UCAD and CMKX!!!!

and by the way you are getting a dividend of GEMM
as a shareholder of CMKX ,so don`t cry!!


 


Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
First Thank you to all who use www.AllStocks.com .

Second we do not tell folks what they can and can't say with a couple of exceptions. No fowl language... No promoting other websites.


 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
The "others" that left were mostly the "faithful". I might add the diehard faithful, who without a dubt are still painting a gingho rosey picture of CMKX elsewhere. They left because they didn't want to hear dissenting points of view. They are so insecure about the future of their investments they cannot stand one iota of reality. Hey, if I was in over my head with $15,000 to $25,000 + wrapped up in this ambiguous company I wouldn't want to hear anything negative, whether it was true or not, fact or fiction. They went with like minded people who want to continue fooling themselves. When their invest is worthless, they still won't give up, they will try to convince themselves that they made a good decision.
If/when this thing ever see .0006 -.0009 they would be foolish to continue thinking it has a future beyond that.


This is what I mean ....
They went with like minded people who want to continue fooling themselves. When their invest is worthless....

Where is your proof, the hard cold facts, that say this stock is worthless. You dont even back that statment up with an IMO. Ive watch USCI go from .0001 to .0003 by just launching a website. Worth is all relative. Please dont issue your own opinions like theyve come from some sort of proven fact.

Like Ive said twice now, sad.

 


Posted by thinkmoney on :
 
Am I getting .00000000000001 worth? Where to sell is more then to own?
Now, that make s me happy to see someone use my money to fatten themselves.

 
Posted by will on :
 
Is what you quoted really what I said. No, you ignored the punctuation and made it sound like one thought. It said:
"When their invest is worthless, they still won't give up, they will try to convince themselves that they made a good decision.", not, "They went with like minded people who want to continue fooling themselves. When their invest is worthless...."
You twisted my post to make it conveient for you feeble arguement. I suggest you read it again paying close attention to the puncuation. Jesus! you can even distort black and white text. Read it again, pal.

quote:
Originally posted by netsec:

This is what I mean ....
They went with like minded people who want to continue fooling themselves. When their invest is worthless....

Where is your proof, the hard cold facts, that say this stock is worthless. You dont even back that statment up with an IMO. Ive watch USCI go from .0001 to .0003 by just launching a website. Worth is all relative. Please dont issue your own opinions like theyve come from some sort of proven fact.

Like Ive said twice now, sad.



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
WHY did the PPS GO DOWN AROUND THE 6TH,
when nobody who has been holding would have sold????????????
same with the uranium claims???
and the increase in price sggm,ucad,GEMM
Going up as we speak???????????????

that 779.b. o/s talk did start a while ago not last week !!!!!!!!

those were my questions!!!!!

DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF AGAIN.

=====================================
the only part of gemm cmkx owns is the shares 25% worth as they did not excercise the option in the 2 month period that we know of. the 779 billion started when the otcbb report on the split came out. many thought it was false even to the point of trying to prove it was a hacker that posted it. as time went on it became more & more clear that this o/s was true. since cmkx would not confirm or deny this i'm guessing many ppl took the ucad & ran or bought gemm with the cmkx money they had left. they will use ucad to recover some losses when it becomes unrestricted. this is guess work but no matter how many times the zen's & dr. d's of cmkx say its ok or that figure is wrong and it will be proven so realistic ppl know better. 779 billion o/s kills the pps. ucad & gemm are companies with a good share structure and are honest & open with shareholders and in ucad's shares you get the biggest part of the cmkx diamond claims even more then cmkx. cmkx isn't a scam, its just grossly mismanaged.
 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
The "others" that left were mostly the "faithful". I might add the diehard faithful, who without a dubt are still painting a gingho rosey picture of CMKX elsewhere. They left because they didn't want to hear dissenting points of view. They are so insecure about the future of their investments they cannot stand one iota of reality. Hey, if I was in over my head with $15,000 to $25,000 + wrapped up in this ambiguous company I wouldn't want to hear anything negative, whether it was true or not, fact or fiction. They went with like minded people who want to continue fooling themselves. When their invest is worthless, they still won't give up, they will try to convince themselves that they made a good decision.
If/when this thing ever see .0006 -.0009 they would be foolish to continue thinking it has a future beyond that.

YOU COULD PUT YOUR POCKET CHANGE ON THIS ONE

and if they come up with a VALUATION of this company which most likely will be higher than the claim of DeBeers
it`s just a fat chance if you do your DD

AND if they come out with their o/s count
which up to now is pure speculation

AGAIN
That little DeBeers Mine next door
VALUE 80 BILLION

and at worst chances cmkx only finds only as much as DeBeers.
do your DD on that.

CMKX
SO let`s take 800 billion O/S
divided by value / 80 billion
________________

WOW !!!! 0.10 $$$$
CASHINK!!

I WOULD NEED SOME BIG POCKETS THEN


p.s. the o/s count will be most likely lower
and the value most likely higher

in the meantime let`s wait and see
but i have that feeling the day is near

the ucad ,gemm ,sggm increase
seems to be the first signal
so don`t be sad if you missed
the bottom of lightly traded gemm
but i guess that one will still go higher
since we haven`t gotten the dividend yet(look at ucad)
look at ucad intrinsic value i believe is 1$

in the meantime while posting on this relatively irrelevant thread
i missed usxp
gave me nice more than 100% daily profit last year but i guess it`s still one to watch
BUT I RATHER WOULD LIKE WATCHING THIS ONE TAKE OFF !!



 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
thanks BILL for your answer

i didn`t pay much attention in the summer when the talk about the 800billion authorised shares came ,that resulted in a calculation of 779b. according to the dividend.
supposely all this is temporary.
i looked on the otccb and pinks
could find a link about the 779b.

do you have a link
i would appreciate it

thanks



 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Is what you quoted really what I said. No, you ignored the punctuation and made it sound like one thought. It said:
"When their invest is worthless, they still won't give up, they will try to convince themselves that they made a good decision.", not, "They went with like minded people who want to continue fooling themselves. When their invest is worthless...."
You twisted my post to make it conveient for you feeble arguement. I suggest you read it again paying close attention to the puncuation. Jesus! you can even distort black and white text. Read it again, pal.


Actually Will, go read the definition of a quote. What I copied from you was a quote. I did not include the rest of your sentence as the entire sentence followed a single path. To include the entire sentence would of been meaningless. You were trying to get across the point that you feel their investment is worthless. The rest of the sentence just tried to back up that point.

Thank you for trying to educate me on punctuation. Will, next time, please do not refer to me as pal. Thank you again.
 


Posted by sarki316 on :
 
CMKX WILL BE AT .10 A SHARE BY THE END IF OCTOBER!!!!!!!

I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. JUST GET READY TO CASH IN GUYS!!!!!!
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
XchangeMODE,
I see so many people here griping that anyone with a negative opinion bases nothing on facts. That being the case, please lay out the facts that support these statements of yours:

quote:
and if they come up with a VALUATION of this company which most likely will be higher than the claim of DeBeers

and:

quote:
and at worst chances cmkx only finds only as much as DeBeers.
do your DD on that.

and:

quote:
p.s. the o/s count will be most likely lower
and the value most likely higher

I'd be interested to know where I can find this information?



 


Posted by will on :
 
Look, pal, I would try to explain it further to you, but if you didn't pay attention in the thirdgrade, you probably won't now. Any fair right minded person read my post correctly, I'm sure. I am also sure they saw you distortion, and quoting out of context.

quote:
Originally posted by netsec:
Actually Will, go read the definition of a quote. What I copied from you was a quote. I did not include the rest of your sentence as the entire sentence followed a single path. To include the entire sentence would of been meaningless. You were trying to get across the point that you feel their investment is worthless. The rest of the sentence just tried to back up that point.

Thank you for trying to educate me on punctuation. Will, next time, please do not refer to me as pal. Thank you again.



 


Posted by skippy on :
 
Sarki,

Ha Ha Ha, LMAO! How many times have you predicted this price with a deadline or some other higher price with a deadline. It might be fun to go look up all your posts just to find out! It would be better if you would not make such statements since you have not been right one time yet! BS last time and BS this time!
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Sarki,nothing personal but you said cdvj would be at .25 and it's at 0.0007.Where do you get these crazy numbers.Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
CMKX WILL BE AT .10 A SHARE BY THE END IF OCTOBER!!!!!!!

I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. JUST GET READY TO CASH IN GUYS!!!!!!



 


Posted by will on :
 
By the end of October you will be able to flap your arms and fly. Keep practicing, you can do it.

quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
CMKX WILL BE AT .10 A SHARE BY THE END IF OCTOBER!!!!!!!

I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. JUST GET READY TO CASH IN GUYS!!!!!!



 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Look, pal, I would try to explain it further to you, but if you didn't pay attention in the thirdgrade, you probably won't now. Any fair right minded person read my post correctly, I'm sure. I am also sure they saw you distortion, and quoting out of context.



It is funny the type of people you get on sites when they are free. Will, I have never insulted you, but you feel it is necessary to insult me to try and get your point across. Will I asked you very nicely not to call me pal, but you did anyway. Insulting my intelligence does not make you smarter by any stretch of the imagination. Will I consider myself a fair minder person. Please go back and read your own post before you try to lay blame somewhere else. Thank you.
 


Posted by will on :
 
OK, a period ends a sentence, completes a thought. The following sentence began with the word "when". When in the context, if/when, at a future time. It was not a continuation of the previous sentence.
Now you go back and read it properly. I classified most people here as either, skeptics, believers, or faithful. Now there seems to be another classification, the foolish. Skeptics doubt, beleivers have hope, faithful have hope and usually a lot of money at stake, fools see facts in black and white and refuse to aknowledge them. The believers and faithful will accpet fools in their flock, skeptics will show them how foolish they are. It isn't to late for you go find the believers and faithful, they even may let you wear the kings crown for a day or two, the only thing I would put on your head is a dunce cap.
Now get your mouth shut, quiet yourself, and move on, pal. You insult yourself.
I am finished with you, reply if you like.
quote:
Originally posted by netsec:

It is funny the type of people you get on sites when they are free. Will, I have never insulted you, but you feel it is necessary to insult me to try and get your point across. Will I asked you very nicely not to call me pal, but you did anyway. Insulting my intelligence does not make you smarter by any stretch of the imagination. Will I consider myself a fair minder person. Please go back and read your own post before you try to lay blame somewhere else. Thank you.


 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
XchangeMODE,
I see so many people here griping that anyone with a negative opinion bases nothing on facts. That being the case, please lay out the facts that support these statements of yours:

I'd be interested to know where I can find this information?


TRY to find the map with the claims of sask.
look at it.
it`s easy to find.
cmkx has one on their site
that is
cmkm diamond
just in case you don`t
know
you can check
DeBeers canada..


AND for statistics on fort de la corne
check any mining website
northern miner ...

and so on

it`s pretty easy!


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
you forget one thing X a U.S. company can not use the total estimated value of the mine in its company valuation only what they mine on a per yr basis. debeers is private so they can do as they want. if a company could use estimated value that value would change weekly as the price of diamonds can change weekly. second as we do know for fact the a/s is 800 billion and the ucad dividend split came to 779 billion and if you own cmkx call your broker for split numbers, then the o/s is 779 billion. not speculation or guesswork. its a fact plan & simple. it doesn't matter if 700 billion were naked shorted shares they are now part of the o/s. i'm sure someone will say UC gave the naked shares the dividend but they aren't part of the o/s, he raised the a/s so he could do that. everyone with real shares could sue everyone from mm's to UC & roger for that move, didn't happen. i'd love to see .10 but in truth i'm guessing .01 isn't possible with a 779 billion o/s
 
Posted by netsec on :
 
OK, a period ends a sentence, completes a thought.
*********************
Actually, a thought can stretch across a paragraph, a chapter or even an entire novel. Please do your research before you write things that make it seem like you know what you are saying.
*********************

Will, I did read it properly. You implied that their investment, as it stands right now, is worthless. I am sorry if you cannot see this.

I dont know if you are just an angry person by nature Will and I am sorry if that is the case. The whole skeptic, foolish parargraph you put together isnt worth commenting on.

However, the last bit in your reply does merit a comment or two.

************************************
Now get your mouth shut, quiet yourself, and move on, pal. You insult yourself.
I am finished with you, reply if you like.
************************************

Allstocks, this goes out to you. Please go back and read the chain of replies in this thread. In this entire thread I have not once insulted Will. I am asking you to look at this as you are supposed to be the moderator(s) of this site. Freedom of speech allows me to disagree with someone, it does not however allow me to insult and be little someone. I read the post Bob added a few posts back. While it is nice to say you dont tell people what and what they cannot say, as moderators of this site you must step in when people cross the line. Unwarranted attacks by posters could lead to problems if, as a company, you do not step in and enforce some form of code of conduct. Will has provided us with a small example of the problem.

Thank you Will, even though you were unaware of helping me highlight a problem within Allstocks.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by XchangeMODE:
quote:
TRY to find the map with the claims of sask.
look at it.
it`s easy to find.
cmkx has one on their site
that is
cmkm diamond
just in case you don`t
know
you can check
DeBeers canada..


AND for statistics on fort de la corne
check any mining website
northern miner ...

and so on

it`s pretty easy!


That's your answer? I asked you to please lay out the facts to 3 statements you made:

#1, CMKX will have a higher valuation than DeBeers

#2, At worst, CMKX will only find the same amount as DeBeers (I'm assuming you mean diamonds)

#3, CMKX's o/s will most likley be lower than thought and their value will be higher.

I don't see your supporting facts in your response. Please help me out here.


 


Posted by skippy on :
 
Netsec,

Allstocks doesn't care. Read their prior response about people attacking each other.


 


Posted by will on :
 
"OK, a period ends a sentence, completes a thought.
*********************
Actually, a thought can stretch across a paragraph, a chapter or even an entire novel. Please do your research before you write things that make it seem like you know what you are saying.
*********************"

Wrong. The period ended the the thought of the first sentence. You won't admit to quoting me out of context, sobeit, let others make up their minds.
You're dismissed. I won't waste another word on a bating whiner.
 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by skippy:
Netsec,

Allstocks doesn't care. Read their prior response about people attacking each other.


Hello Skippy,

I get the feeling they do not care either. I am telling them they must care, they provide a public forum for comments. They to must follow rules governing what freedom of speech does and does not allow. Newspapers do not publish everything written to them by readers. Why dont they do this...because they could be held liable if the comments written crossed the freedom of speech line. I am just asking Allstocks to keep this in mind when they allow people to pretty much post anything they want...well besides foul language and other websites.
 


Posted by will on :
 
That wasn't an attack, skippy. An attack is urinating on people, like one of your ilk did here.
I just defined foolish.
Oh yea! Wishing death on people is another tactic your ilk have used in the past.
Surely nutsac, netsec, whichever his name is can get comfortable with foolish after those attacks.


quote:
Originally posted by skippy:
Netsec,

Allstocks doesn't care. Read their prior response about people attacking each other.


[This message has been edited by will (edited October 11, 2004).]
 


Posted by skippy on :
 
Will,

You have been here long enough as I have to know my post about Allstocks prior post was in reference to the attacking that went back and forth between several posters and got pretty petty and nasty. I was not talking to you or about you when I submitted my post. Neither do I appreciate you trying to link me to anyone that participated in all that BS. I don't like to see it from either direction and don't claim to have a dog in that fight.
 


Posted by will on :
 
I retract my post to you then, but let it remain generic for the others.
I apologize to you, skippy.


quote:
Originally posted by skippy:
Will,

You have been here long enough as I have to know my post about Allstocks prior post was in reference to the attacking that went back and forth between several posters and got pretty petty and nasty. I was not talking to you or about you when I submitted my post. Neither do I appreciate you trying to link me to anyone that participated in all that BS. I don't like to see it from either direction and don't claim to have a dog in that fight.



 


Posted by skippy on :
 
Will,

Thank you.
 


Posted by netsec on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by will:
[B]That wasn't an attack, skippy. An attack is urinating on people, like one of your ilk did here.
I just defined foolish.
Oh yea! Wishing death on people is another tactic your ilk have used in the past.
Surely nutsac, netsec, whichever his name is can get comfortable with foolish after those attacks.

Hello again Will, I am so glad you arent done with me yet. Will an attack can be verbal it does not have to involve a physical action. I can get a restraining order based on a verbal attack if the attack met the criteria necessary to get the order.

Will have I insulted your username sometime in the past that I am not aware of doing. If not please stop insulting mine. I am not comfortable with any attack made here on Allstocks.

I am just trying to clarify something now Will so help me out. When you say ilk, and you said it twice, what exactly are you implying. From the tone of your replies you seem to think I am some sort of pumper or something. If that is not the case I truly apologize. I am just trying make sure when people decide to post something like, worthless, they add an IMO or something to their post so that other readers will not assume the poster new something they didnt. Thats all.

I find it sad that youve had to insult me to try and get your point across. I am assuming we are both adults, it would be nice if you could treat me in the manner I am treating you at the moment. With respect and courtesy.

Thank you.



 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
netsec... your a TROUBLE MAKER! Like a pesty gnat...buzz off!!
quote:
Originally posted by netsec:

It is funny the type of people you get on sites when they are free. Will, I have never insulted you, but you feel it is necessary to insult me to try and get your point across. Will I asked you very nicely not to call me pal, but you did anyway. Insulting my intelligence does not make you smarter by any stretch of the imagination. Will I consider myself a fair minder person. Please go back and read your own post before you try to lay blame somewhere else. Thank you.


 


Posted by sarki316 on :
 
PENCIL OCT 21ST ON YOUR CALANDER. THAT IS WHEN CMKX WILL BE FULLY REPORTING FROM MY SOURCES.

THAT IS WHEN IT WILL MAKE IT'S MOVE.

 


Posted by will on :
 
sarki316, take what's his name by the hand and go find the faithful that will entertain your nonsense.
TRIPE!
Oh! unless you can tell use your "credible" source. Little green men?

quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
PENCIL OCT 21ST ON YOUR CALANDER. THAT IS WHEN CMKX WILL BE FULLY REPORTING FROM MY SOURCES.

THAT IS WHEN IT WILL MAKE IT'S MOVE.



 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by XchangeMODE:
That's your answer? I asked you to please lay out the facts to 3 statements you made:

#1, CMKX will have a higher valuation than DeBeers

#2, At worst, CMKX will only find the same amount as DeBeers (I'm assuming you mean diamonds)

#3, CMKX's o/s will most likley be lower than thought and their value will be higher.

I don't see your supporting facts in your response. Please help me out here.


I DON`T GET PAID TO DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I`m pisssed i looked at USXP last night for no apparent reason .
i made money on it a year ago 100 or 200 %
in a day or two missed the p.r. today
200% on heavy volume.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......

so don`t ask me any more questions
#1 i did not say cmkx will have a higher valuation than DEbeers.

DEBEERS DOESN`T TRADE ON ANY EXCHANGE

it was specific to the Fort de la Corne area

everybody here knows that cmkx has a multiple of the claims THAN DEBEERS in that area supposdly according to the areal survey
with lots of kimberlites
and according to canadian mining sites
80% contain diamonds
do i have to repeat what everybody here allready knows?
#2 these facts above would make it more likely
that cmkx finds more diamonds in sask.
than debeers
sask. is the biggest diamondfind in recent history in the world!

i said go to cmkm diamonds
www.casavantmining.com
------------------------
click on properties.
how hard could that be
look at the map!
go to debeers canada website you can google
it
great site
------------

i did my DD A LONG TIME AGO
I CAN`T REMEMBER ALL THE WeBSITES
BUT IT IS REALLY EASY
TO USE GOOGLE
TRY
FORT DE LA CORNE
DIAMOND MINING CANADA
AND SO ON ...
northern miner
you might come across a lot of information


but anybody with information about the drillsite
of debeers kimberlite body adjacent to cmkx
valued at 80 BILLION $
that information is easy to find too!

p.s.
I saw a MAP recently ,i don`t know where
that had a cmkx drilling next to DEBEERS
IT LOOKED LIKE THE SAME KIMBERLITE BODY
any clues anybody


 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
sarki,if you keep throwing things against the wall eventually one might stick.Get your crystal ball checked it might have a crack.It's one thing to be positive but throwing out huge numbers with no facts.Sorry you brought it on yourself.Good Luck

sarki316
Member posted August 17, 2004 15:26
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just when I posted yesterday CDVJ comes out with a PR.

.25 BY THE END OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!

 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
BILL are you still here?
do you have the otcbb link where it states
about the O/S beeing
779 b.
OR anybody on this thread
knows where to find that info.?

since it seems to be everybodys main concern.

 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
It's not posted those are the exact numbers from the dividend that prove the 779 billion.Good Luck
 
Posted by will on :
 
Ok netsec, this is the last time I will try to explain my post, and your wrong interpretation.

Read the two sentences separately, like this:

"They went with like minded people who want to continue fooling themselves."

"When their invest is worthless, they still won't give up, they will try to convince themselves that they made a good decision."

Note: "fooling themselves" ends the first sentence.

Note: "When their invest is worthless" begins the next.

Now pay attention, the period ended the first sentence. When began a new sentence, thought. When, refered to if/when as in a future time. It was not intended to say or mean that it is presently worthless like you made it look.

Anyone reading the sentences properly can and will see the real intent.

If you cannot, or do not see the difference now I don't know whatelse to tell you.

You took me out of context, plain and simple.

Now if you're compelled, go get a restraining order.

quote:
Originally posted by netsec:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by will:
[B]That wasn't an attack, skippy. An attack is urinating on people, like one of your ilk did here.
I just defined foolish.
Oh yea! Wishing death on people is another tactic your ilk have used in the past.
Surely nutsac, netsec, whichever his name is can get comfortable with foolish after those attacks.

Hello again Will, I am so glad you arent done with me yet. Will an attack can be verbal it does not have to involve a physical action. I can get a restraining order based on a verbal attack if the attack met the criteria necessary to get the order.

Will have I insulted your username sometime in the past that I am not aware of doing. If not please stop insulting mine. I am not comfortable with any attack made here on Allstocks.

I am just trying to clarify something now Will so help me out. When you say ilk, and you said it twice, what exactly are you implying. From the tone of your replies you seem to think I am some sort of pumper or something. If that is not the case I truly apologize. I am just trying make sure when people decide to post something like, worthless, they add an IMO or something to their post so that other readers will not assume the poster new something they didnt. Thats all.

I find it sad that youve had to insult me to try and get your point across. I am assuming we are both adults, it would be nice if you could treat me in the manner I am treating you at the moment. With respect and courtesy.

Thank you.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Better to just leave it alone Will. The guy's an obvious pansy looking to impress people. Like running to his mommy because someone insulted him. "Allstocks, Will insulted me! Make him stop!" Your time is better spent on things other than the likes of him.
 
Posted by netsec on :
 
Hi Will, sorry, you are mistaken. As I said earlier, one sentence, does not make for the end of a thought. Your entire paragraph was trying to enforce the opinion of yours that the stock is worthless. I am sorry if you cannot see that.

*********************
Now pay attention, the period ended the first sentence. When began a new sentence, thought. When, refered to if/when as in a future time. It was not intended to say or mean that it is presently worthless like you made it look.
***************************
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I heard there is wmc divy in the works for cmkx is this untrue can anyone verify this please
 
Posted by netsec on :
 
Hello Upside,

I am glad you joined a conversation that you were not part of but felt you needed to add your own comments. I found it interesting that not only did you have to post but you had to post with an insult. Have I insulted you.

Running to mommy as you put it has somewhat of a negative conatation associated to it. I must again stress that Allstocks is providing a service. As a service provider they must police this service. If making sure they do police this service fairly to the benefit of all is considered running to mommy then Ill happily run to mommy.

Thank you Upside for again highlighting the issues with Allstocks.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Better to just leave it alone Will. The guy's an obvious pansy looking to impress people. Like running to his mommy because someone insulted him. "Allstocks, Will insulted me! Make him stop!" Your time is better spent on things other than the likes of him.


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
the divies we are recieving from cmkx are doing great so far I think the money that we will make is going to come from the dividend companies. I dont know if it is very common for a pink sheet stock company to give so many different divies. lets just wait and see. I dont think cmkx will be at .10 at the end of october. I do think at the end of this the divies should end up making most a nice little profit. I still dont know what to take of cmkx pps and why they stand still without any gains, maybe they are just way over diluted. I hope that roger glenn knows what hes doing. I have a feeling something big is happening behind the scenes that is causing all the other jvs to run. I think cmkx might just be a distraction.
 
Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
SO I GUESS THERE IS NO LINK
on the otcbb that the O/S is 779 b.
like bill was saying
it`s like i thought,
a pure dividend calculation.
apparently the o/s was raised ,for the purpose of paying out the dividend.
there must have been more shares in peoples
account than outstanding shares.

oops.

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by netsec:
quote:
Hello Upside,
I am glad you joined a conversation that you were not part of but felt you needed to add your own comments. I found it interesting that not only did you have to post but you had to post with an insult. Have I insulted you.

Running to mommy as you put it has somewhat of a negative conatation associated to it. I must again stress that Allstocks is providing a service. As a service provider they must police this service. If making sure they do police this service fairly to the benefit of all is considered running to mommy then Ill happily run to mommy.

Thank you Upside for again highlighting the issues with Allstocks.


Have you insulted me? Most definitely! Just reading your mindless drivel is insulting enough but then to watch you plead for help from Allstocks and accuse them of being unfair moderators is more than insulting, it's outrageous. They ARE allowing the banter to be fair by ignoring these foolish exchanges such as the one we're engaged in now. Someone ruffles your feathers a little, respond to them or ignore them, it's your choice but to go running to the mod's every time you feel insulted is ridiculous and yes, childish.


 


Posted by will on :
 
"I still dont know what to take of cmkx pps and why they stand still without any gains, maybe they are just way over diluted."

Why don't we look at it this way. The NYSE on a good day trades, 2B shares, the NAS maybe 1.5B, AMEX ?, say .5B. So, the major exchanges trade, on a good day, 3B shares. Ok, there are 780B O/S of CMKX. Say 49% of that is float, or 382.2B. Now lets say CMKX does 3, 4 times the volume of the major exchanges on a good day, 3.5 X 3B = 10.5B volume. Divide that by 382.2B, that means 2.74% of the float was traded. Do you believe that is enough to move the PPS of CMKX?
There have been days when it has traded more then 10B and I think the PPS closed even or down on those days. So, your statement, "maybe they are just way over diluted", might be accurate.

quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
the divies we are recieving from cmkx are doing great so far I think the money that we will make is going to come from the dividend companies. I dont know if it is very common for a pink sheet stock company to give so many different divies. lets just wait and see. I dont think cmkx will be at .10 at the end of october. I do think at the end of this the divies should end up making most a nice little profit. I still dont know what to take of cmkx pps and why they stand still without any gains, maybe they are just way over diluted. I hope that roger glenn knows what hes doing. I have a feeling something big is happening behind the scenes that is causing all the other jvs to run. I think cmkx might just be a distraction.


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Where's the ignore button when you need it? ugggh!
quote:
Originally posted by netsec:
Hi Will, sorry, you are mistaken. As I said earlier, one sentence, does not make for the end of a thought. Your entire paragraph was trying to enforce the opinion of yours that the stock is worthless. I am sorry if you cannot see that.

*********************
Now pay attention, the period ended the first sentence. When began a new sentence, thought. When, refered to if/when as in a future time. It was not intended to say or mean that it is presently worthless like you made it look.
***************************



 


Posted by will on :
 
I pressed the ignore button already.
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
Where's the ignore button when you need it? ugggh!


 


Posted by cndboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
PENCIL OCT 21ST ON YOUR CALANDER. THAT IS WHEN CMKX WILL BE FULLY REPORTING FROM MY SOURCES.

THAT IS WHEN IT WILL MAKE IT'S MOVE.



For some reason I believe in you my padawan.... Use the force. You will be a Jedi soon.

 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
and actually ucad made a run and still running

when everybody was holding on strong to cmkx for their ucad dividends.

so people didn`t transfer their money to ucad


it could have not been the reason for UCAD `s run and JIUNA mining anD ST.GEORGE

SORRY IT WAS AN ANSWER TO BILL EARLIER
there is no link for the OTCBB
or PINKS that states the o/s


THERE IS NO PROOF OF 779 billion O/S

even on the pinks they need to
AUTHORIZE the SHARES they can ISSUE!

CORRECT ?

SO AGAIN IS THERE A LINK THAT STATES THEY
AUTHORIZED THAT CMKX CAN
ISSUE 800 BILLION SHARES????


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
XchangeMODE,
If you're looking for the current a/s, call this number: 775-684-5708. That is to the Nevada Secretary of States office. Whoever answers the phone will tell you their authorized, last I called about a month ago it was 800 billion. The outstanding is a product of the known amount of shares being distributed and the known distribution rate. It's that simple. It has to be the 779 billion, there's no two ways around it. The only reason it's being called into question is because the CIM distribution percentage now reflects an outstanding of 1.6 trillion. If that's the case, they will have to raise their authorized to at least that amount and the Secretary of State will give you that information when they receive it.
 
Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by netsec:
Have you insulted me? Most definitely! Just reading your mindless drivel is insulting enough but then to watch you plead for help from Allstocks and accuse them of being unfair moderators is more than insulting, it's outrageous. They ARE allowing the banter to be fair by ignoring these foolish exchanges such as the one we're engaged in now. Someone ruffles your feathers a little, respond to them or ignore them, it's your choice but to go running to the mod's every time you feel insulted is ridiculous and yes, childish.


I am sorry Upside but banter does not include insulting other posters.

Foolish has nothing to do with asking Allstocks to better police their boards for posters who continually insult or degrade other posters.

I wonder if there are actually any adults that post on this site.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
upside...sorry to disagree but i dont think they will raise the a/s, i think they have cut the dividend amount to 20 billion. 2 ways to go issue it at 40 billion & do a 2 for 1 r/s or just cut it. since CIM's a/s is 25 million (again from call to state of nevada) it will have to be raised. i'm hoping i guess but maybe UC has learned a think or 2 about the stock market, you can't keep issuing shares and expect the pps to go up (unless your part of paltalk) thus by raising the a/s to 40, pass out 20 he keeps control. i'm saying this because gemm is back down to 779 billion. but then who knows, them there naked short shares are a tricky lot
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Aw, come on guys, can we knock off the insults and stick to the subject? This thread is getting filled up with garbage that has nothing to do with CMKX or any other stock. Please, all of you grow up and post something useful.
Ed

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Good point Bill, that could be the case. If they elect to just cut it in half, I'd assume they'll issue a p/r stating that rather than just let it happen. Can't wait to see the reaction to that move.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
ed19363,
You're 100% right and I apologize for wasting space here today. Wish I could promise it won't happen again in the future but I'll give it a shot!

 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Okay, you guys are much more knowledgeable than I am, so I am asking for your honest opinion. Not to bash or anything, just a simple question. Knowing what you do about CMKX, what do you think is the possibility that they may do a reverse split? I ask because I am 27M strong and a R/S would about kill me, as it has on two other stocks I have owned.
Ed
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
ed19363,
You're 100% right and I apologize for wasting space here today. Wish I could promise it won't happen again in the future but I'll give it a shot!


 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Okay, you guys are much more knowledgeable than I am, so I am asking for your honest opinion. Not to bash or anything, just a simple question. Knowing what you do about CMKX, what do you think is the possibility that they may do a reverse split? I ask because I am 27M strong and a R/S would about kill me, as it has on two other stocks I have owned.
Ed


Hi Ed,

If youve noticed over the last little while they, as in CMKX, have been going through what i guess you could call a fire sale. I dont think they will do a reverse split. I believe they are going to transfer all their claims, assets to other companies. IMO

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
X...i was not there and i deleted the link in my home computer but i see your one that thinks the ucad split has nothing to do with the o/s so it doesn't matter. i hope your right.
========================================
why is gemm's pps going up? can't be that they are mining gold as we speak or that they have increased not only output but the amount they are retrieving from that output nor could it be that everything is in place to mine diamonds in south america from land that diamonds have been rudely mined for years. it can't be that their o/s in in the millions not billions, nope has to be something to do with naked shorted cmkx shares and the fact that cmkx is honoring it by giving it as a dividend.
============================================
why's ucad increasing? couldn't be that they own most of gemm or a few other working mining interests or the fact that they bought property that is in the works to refine not only their ore but other mining companies ore or that they own about 30% of the claims in canada or that their o/s is under 290 millions. nope has to be naked shorted stuff with cmkx.
======================================
sggm,....god only knows. the only info on them looks like cmkx's little brother without a funny car or 2
==========================================why is cmkx heading down? well we know its not that they have sold off 20% of the 25% of claims in canada. can't be that in 2 yrs they have drilled 6 2 1/2 inch holes. it can't be that if nothing else on paper they have a 779 billion o/s. nor can it be that they have more money in race cars then drilling rigs. they have 20% of 1.9 million acres of diamond claims with 100 anamolies, 50% of some new uranium claims, just because nothing is close to mining it shouldn't hurt the pps. it has to be naked shorting and those evil mm's
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Ed,
Any stock floating at these levels and with a huge o/s is likely to have a reverse. I've posted on this subject before but if they do it, they might be the 1 out of 100 companies where it's not viewed negatively. Let's face it, if the float is anywhere near the outstanding, something has to be done to get it under control. In CMKX's case it just might legitimize them in the eyes of many. They need to do it right though, if they do a reverse, they HAVE to reverse the authorized also, perhaps at a lesser level in order to allow for some new shares to be issued as the company deems necessary. Couple some well timed good news along with a large reverse and they just might pull it off. The key is the authorized though, if they elect to leave it at 800 billion, watch out. That means nothing but rapid fire dilution is ahead and more lining of Urbans pocket.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
1 more idea, this is for those that believe the o/s is not 779 billion....lets say UC increased the a/s and issued those plus had more in the company treasury and then gave the dividend to all issued shares. honoring the 21 billion he said was retired. lets say 4 million ucad shares are now in the company treasury. this gives real value not estimated value of some claims to cmkx which might be needed to become reporting. since they are at least 1 yr from being able to estimate any claim value as they will need to bulk sample for this it does give cmkx part control of ucad. giving ucad shares to naked shorted shares would be criminal as it would legalize them in a way and also ok mm's activity.
 
Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
THANKS
UP AND BILL
to keep me up to date
good work
i should keep some links handy
but i switched from aol to bellsouth(so i lost my links)
i called the number it was 800 b. authorized
so we have to keep on guessing the issued
i read on a messageboard that the amount of the ucad shares could still change until the restriction is lifted
not shure if that`s possible.
i don`t know if everybody got their dividend?
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
oh I have etrade got my dividend they made a mistake and rounded it down to 9 for each million but are going to correct the mistake within two days so they say I think it is going to be changed to 9.62 per million. they were very appoligetic.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Thank you for the nice replies, gentlemen. Wish us all luck.
Ed
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
must be something going on this thread is quiet as can be whats going on. maybe the pumpers and bashers that keep us so intrigued are done their work and now something huge realy is about to happen.
interesting theory
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
this is a question. Ok I know that if you call the state of nevada they can tell you how many shares have been AUTHORIZED. Question is do they say when shares are retired? or how many are outstanding. I can understand that they can tell you how many our authorized since they are the ones that authorized. but do they have any say as to when shares are retired. or how many shares are on the float. now for a crazy statement just to simplify it for my head I know this did not happen its just a question. If Urban retired 800 billion shares today and did not put out a pr how would anyone be able to know. is it possible they are trying to get mms to believe that the o/s is a certain amount by issuing a ratio the way they did so that they can spring a trap. what if urban says make the mms believe their is an o/s of 1.6 trillion, when they short it like never before thinking that the o/s is that high. boink the trap clamps. lol we only got 20 billion outstanding thanks for taking the bait.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
To answer the first part of your question, the State only knows the authorized. All other parts of the share structure, issued, retired, etc. are internal to the company.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
if this was the truth then they just riped the shareholders off of their dividend shares. this would create a whole different set of problems for them.

stop dreaming and hoping!!!! this thing is super saturated with dilution. you might as well get used to seeing .0001 because this thing is not going anywhere without one mother of a large reverse split.


quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
this is a question. Ok I know that if you call the state of nevada they can tell you how many shares have been AUTHORIZED. Question is do they say when shares are retired? or how many are outstanding. I can understand that they can tell you how many our authorized since they are the ones that authorized. but do they have any say as to when shares are retired. or how many shares are on the float. now for a crazy statement just to simplify it for my head I know this did not happen its just a question. If Urban retired 800 billion shares today and did not put out a pr how would anyone be able to know. is it possible they are trying to get mms to believe that the o/s is a certain amount by issuing a ratio the way they did so that they can spring a trap. what if urban says make the mms believe their is an o/s of 1.6 trillion, when they short it like never before thinking that the o/s is that high. boink the trap clamps. lol we only got 20 billion outstanding thanks for taking the bait.

[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 11, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
if this was the truth then they just riped the shareholders off of their dividend shares. this would create a whole different set of problems for them.

stop dreaming and hoping!!!! this thing is super saturated with dilution. you might as well get used to seeing .0001 because this thing is not going anywhere without one mother of a large reverse split.


Whewww!
Did you see what UCAD and GEMM did,AGAIN, today?
I think if this woulda,coulda,shoulda been played right it might already HAD been a play of a lifetime.I mean hindsight is 20/20.
But I'll be looking forward to my GEMM.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 11, 2004).]
 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 

we only know the authorised shares

issued and value of the company is still unknown
in the meantime the price is still beeing manipulated by the marketmakers

why would you increase the authorised shares
before you pay a dividend?
if they issued more shares they would have to pay more dividends

right?

forgot to ask about the date they authorised more shares
well tomorrow is another day.

 


Posted by will on :
 
"if they issued more shares they would have to pay more dividends"

No, I don't think that is accurate. The result would be a smaller portion of the dividend per parent stock O/S. The amount of the dividend would not change, the number of shares it is divided amoung would. So your dividend would be diluted.
In the case of UCAD that was 279B shares of dillution, divide by 500B the old A/S, gives dillution of 55.8%.


 


Posted by CHIMAN34 on :
 
Can someone please tell me why then is there going to be this Vegas party when there is nothing good about what is going on so far? I mean why would these guys even show up knowing that people are pissed with what's going on, this I do not understand. I would think that someone would want to kick my a??, and I wouldn't want to show my face.
If someone can come up wih something that sounds logical, please do.
Thanks, Dave
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Dave,
My hunch is they're going to focus on how well UCAD and GEMM are doing and downplay CMKX. There is a chance that there might be some "major" announcment there also. Take it for what it's worth but at the Chicago races I had numerous representatives of the Company tell me that Roger Glenn was preparing a speech.
 
Posted by CHIMAN34 on :
 
Thanks Upside. I am long on this even with people bashing it all the time, also waiting to see what comes out of this party before I do anything. I still think there will be some positive things, time will tell.
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
One theory posted is the divvys are given out partially. 20 billion on one day and 20 billion a few weeks later.

There was someone also saying this about the UCAD, the divvy ratio was based upon half of it being issued at this time.


In such a case it would mean os is half what people think.


I can't verify this theory.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Just off hand, sounds like another "theory" without basis. Probably cooked up by one of the master minds. I doubt it very much, but can't disprove it, but it would be highly unusual, and not customary. It's amazing the fantasy they come up with to try and explain reality away.
Do you subscribe to this theory, or do you find it unlikely too?

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
One theory posted is the divvys are given out partially. 20 billion on one day and 20 billion a few weeks later.

There was someone also saying this about the UCAD, the divvy ratio was based upon half of it being issued at this time.


In such a case it would mean os is half what people think.


I can't verify this theory.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
They're all true Will! The Perfect Storm, The Master Plan, The Springing Trap, The Racing For Diamonds, The Double Naked Shorts, and on and on and on.
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
So then i should by 10,000 worth.Thanks upside i will place my order.LOL
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
They're all true Will! The Perfect Storm, The Master Plan, The Springing Trap, The Racing For Diamonds, The Double Naked Shorts, and on and on and on.


 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, I'm personally very disappointed that the squeeze of the century didn't ocurr, or if it did I missed it. However isn't the evidence of a squeeze a rise in the PPS? Seems we went down after the accounting of the O/S logically demanded by the UCAD dividend. Now I know CMKX is different, but can it, does it, will it, defy customary logic and rules of stock trading forever? Isn't there a point in this story where truth through emperical evidence debunks all the theories? There has to be some point that happens, I'll be darned if I know where that is. No, excuse me, I do know, it will only end at BK, or all us skeptics will be wrong and have to apologize as we we cash in.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
They're all true Will! The Perfect Storm, The Master Plan, The Springing Trap, The Racing For Diamonds, The Double Naked Shorts, and on and on and on.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Seriously, what bothers me about all these theories and all these spinmasters is that they ignore the basic truth about this company. This company took the liberal laws of Nevada and abused those laws like no one has ever seen before, all at shareholders expense. They raked in untold millions of our dollars over the last two years and yet they do not have one single thing to show for it. Some will yell "look at their claims"! The sad fact is that no claims are registered to them on the Saskatchewan Mineral Disposition website. The only place you see any claims labled CMKX or Casavant is on CMKX promotional brochures. They might not even exist for all we know. Meanwhile, people are excusing every twisted and deceitful action this company has heaped on us in the last few years by coming up with wild, impossible theories to explain it all away. And now, in my opinion, Roger Glen is acting counsel to them to insure that Urban walks away from this sorid mess untouched. Guilty as hell, free as a bird. Isn't America great?
 
Posted by will on :
 
I hear ya, UpMan, but I am not ready to go that far yet. Do I think these folks have our best interest at heart? NO! Do I think it is an out and out scam? No. Do I think there is any crdibility to these wild theories, and fantastic dreams and claims by the faithful? NO! Do I think we might get one more jiggle out this lying pack of management? I sure hope so!
The question of an October surprise is still hanging out there. If things don't happen by the end of October, then I will completely agree with you.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Seriously, what bothers me about all these theories and all these spinmasters is that they ignore the basic truth about this company. This company took the liberal laws of Nevada and abused those laws like no one has ever seen before, all at shareholders expense. They raked in untold millions of our dollars over the last two years and yet they do not have one single thing to show for it. Some will yell "look at their claims"! The sad fact is that no claims are registered to them on the Saskatchewan Mineral Disposition website. The only place you see any claims labled CMKX or Casavant is on CMKX promotional brochures. They might not even exist for all we know. Meanwhile, people are excusing every twisted and deceitful action this company has heaped on us in the last few years by coming up with wild, impossible theories to explain it all away. And now, in my opinion, Roger Glen is acting counsel to them to insure that Urban walks away from this sorid mess untouched. Guilty as hell, free as a bird. Isn't America great?


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Seriously, what bothers me about all these theories and all these spinmasters is that they ignore the basic truth about this company. This company took the liberal laws of Nevada and abused those laws like no one has ever seen before, all at shareholders expense. They raked in untold millions of our dollars over the last two years and yet they do not have one single thing to show for it. Some will yell "look at their claims"! The sad fact is that no claims are registered to them on the Saskatchewan Mineral Disposition website. The only place you see any claims labled CMKX or Casavant is on CMKX promotional brochures. They might not even exist for all we know. Meanwhile, people are excusing every twisted and deceitful action this company has heaped on us in the last few years by coming up with wild, impossible theories to explain it all away. And now, in my opinion, Roger Glen is acting counsel to them to insure that Urban walks away from this sorid mess untouched. Guilty as hell, free as a bird. Isn't America great?

That is EXACTLY how I have felt & thought for the past few months! I could not have said it better.
 


Posted by BCmouser on :
 
Tahera recently announced a deal with Tiffanys to market their diamonds. TAH has a market cap of about 65 million. CMKX has no diamonds as of yet and has a market cap at least double that of Tahera. What is wrong with this picture?
 
Posted by user095263 on :
 
ditto.
~BB

Originally posted by Upside:
Seriously, what bothers me about all these theories and all these spinmasters is that they ignore the basic truth about this company. This company took the liberal laws of Nevada and abused those laws like no one has ever seen before, all at shareholders expense. They raked in untold millions of our dollars over the last two years and yet they do not have one single thing to show for it. Some will yell "look at their claims"! The sad fact is that no claims are registered to them on the Saskatchewan Mineral Disposition website. The only place you see any claims labled CMKX or Casavant is on CMKX promotional brochures. They might not even exist for all we know. Meanwhile, people are excusing every twisted and deceitful action this company has heaped on us in the last few years by coming up with wild, impossible theories to explain it all away. And now, in my opinion, Roger Glen is acting counsel to them to insure that Urban walks away from this sorid mess untouched. Guilty as hell, free as a bird. Isn't America great?

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
XchangeMODE
Member posted October 11, 2004 23:03
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we only know the authorised shares
issued and value of the company is still unknown
in the meantime the price is still beeing manipulated by the marketmakers

why would you increase the authorised shares
before you pay a dividend?
if they issued more shares they would have to pay more dividends

right?

forgot to ask about the date they authorised more shares
well tomorrow is another day.
====================================

the a/s was increased Aug 18th 2 days before the own by date for the ucad dividend thus 279 billion more shares got the dividend. as for the vegas party, that was announced by ucad not cmkx and if i'm a long time ucad shareholder i'm partying right now.
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Press Release Source: U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc.


U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. Announces Initiation of COD Operations
Tuesday October 12, 5:30 am ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 12, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTCBB:UCAD - News) announced today that it initiated the commencement of operations at the COD mine in Arizona. The company has contracted for the first stage of bulk sampling on the property and the improvements of the access and facilities at the site.
Rendal Williams, CEO of U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. stated, "We are pleased to have commenced operations which will lead to full scale production from this property in the near future and are excited by the future returns we believe this property will generate."

Further details relative to this transaction can be found at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

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Contact:
U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc.
Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476

 


Posted by sarki316 on :
 
Tiger tony and will I never meet people like you guys that i know for a fact that invested in CMKX and talk so bad about it. People like you guys should not be in this business. And will I have no clue why people listen to you. you know nothing about stocks.


Everything that I invest in I make money. I had alot of money on Sirius stock got in at .60 a share for 100,000 shares. CMKX will make money WILL!!!!!!!! And tiger tony CDVJ will make it's move. Like I told everybody in the CDVJ board people are waiting for the Airport hub to go and this stock will start to move. I don't do DD to people in message boards. The DD too you guys are the PR. read them and do your reasearch.

CMKX WILL NOT GO UNDER!!!! AND IS NOT A SCAM WILL ALL THOSE PR COMMING OUT. @0.0002 HOW THE HECK CAN YOU LOSE WE GOT FREE SHARES AND MORE TOO COME. WILL YOUR FULL OF CRAP BRO.

quote:
Originally posted by tigertony:
sarki,if you keep throwing things against the wall eventually one might stick.Get your crystal ball checked it might have a crack.It's one thing to be positive but throwing out huge numbers with no facts.Sorry you brought it on yourself.Good Luck

sarki316
Member posted August 17, 2004 15:26



 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
0.0001 - ouch
 
Posted by will on :
 
Don't worry, sarki has it at .10 in a few weeks, just hang in there, you'll be rich soon.
Oh yea, grab some CDVJ @ .0012 he predicted that will be .25 by the end of year.
He's a sharp businessman, he knows his stocks. It's all good, you can follow his picks.
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
0.0001 - ouch

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Really kicking myself in the butt - Holding 5 mil and didnt sell any at the run in June. As a newbie, i have just learned a valuable lesson.
We can all wish for the big one, but lets be realistic, even a run back up to 0.0008 to 0.001 would be welcomed.

GLTA
 


Posted by will on :
 
Welcome, but a remote posibility at this point. We'll see what the end of October brings.
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Really kicking myself in the butt - Holding 5 mil and didnt sell any at the run in June. As a newbie, i have just learned a valuable lesson.
We can all wish for the big one, but lets be realistic, even a run back up to 0.0008 to 0.001 would be welcomed.

GLTA



 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Will -

October lets hope its full of treats not tricks. Worst part is I found UCAD when it was around $2-3. Now that would have been a worth while investment -
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
and ppl question why ucad's pps is going up they are doing something with the investments coming in and it has nothing to do with cmkx. if UC did as he said he took all the shares and gave them to us in the dividend thus cmkx the company owns nothing of ucad cmkx shareholders do the same holds true with gemm
===============Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM) announced today that it has received financing in the amount of $500,000 USD through the sale of common stock to CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX). This sale gives CMKX ownership of approximately 25% of GEMM. ===========CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) announced today that it has elected to distribute the 95,502,027 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM) which were recently purchased by the company as a dividend to its shareholders.

============================
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to have reached a purchase agreement with U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTC BB:UCAD) to which U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. will be purchasing 5% of all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in exchange for 7.5 million shares of UCAD. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will later issue these shares to all shareholders of record on August 20, 2004.

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unless UC increased the a/s and issued the shares into the company treasury as restricted then nothing ucad or gemm does helps cmkx's bottom line

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
We can only hope, thats all we can do at this moment..
Whats really sad is the koolaid gang (Dr.D, Sterling etc.) still pumping the heck out of CMKX.

GL to you JEAL

quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Will -

October lets hope its full of treats not tricks. Worst part is I found UCAD when it was around $2-3. Now that would have been a worth while investment -



 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
TT -

Pumping is ok, bashing is ok - in moderation.
I have no issue in either as long as theories can be supported with some kind of documentation. Even if the source is vague - this is ok, this is what makes the world go 'round even if it does involve identifed bashers and pumpers. I am here just the same as everyone else. TO make a little money. Not here for personal attacks or to make people happy. Just hoping to find that bit of info that keeps the light at the end of the tunnel burining bright.

Have fun and GLTA
 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
first of all ucad was supposed to run
in a naked short scenario
and has been running since the 6th
i guess the MM`s have to buy us our dividend
same for gemm

so naked shorts is a true story?

i allways assumed cmkx has been cellar boxed
strange trading patterns and so on...
the idea behind this is for the market-makers to make money!!!
at the cost of companies and investors!

so what`s going on at the moment?

so they are buying us dividends and are trying to keep the price of cmkx down,
so they can cover their positions

o.k.they are buying the dividend at a higher price so they drop the price of cmkx

if you look at your accounts you would have the same value in your accounts than a month ago

lower price for cmkx plus ucad divi.= approx. the same value

naked shorts are getting dressed ?



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
x...the problem with that idea is that the shares are in our accounts. do you really think that all the brokers just put the numbers there and told the mm's to fill as you can? ucad is over and done with as far as cmkx is concerned other then releasing the restriction 1 yr from now. no cover, no squeeze. its this kind of theories that helps drive the pps down. ppl running their mouths saying "squeeze of all time" "shorted billions of shares" and then when nothing happens ppl get out. UCAD"S pps is going up because of UCAD not cmkx. i had a typo yesterday meant to say ucad's o/s is less then 29 million not 290 million. less then 29 million shares has gold coming in from at least 2 mines and 1 more about to get up & running, has diamonds close to coming in from south america, things getting set to do their own final refining of ore. yet ppl want to say its going up because of cmkx??? please
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
XchangeMODE,
I'll agree that the UCAD run up has been amazing and the timing does make one wonder about the naked short theory. However, if we accept that premise then Bills question needs to be answered, how did the mm's buy and have placed in our accounts, restricted shares of UCAD? According to his research which was pretty in depth, there is simply no way for that to happen.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
POLL -

If you had to pick one of the other stocks to invest in to make a quick turn around and on the other hand long term, which one would it be and why?

GEMM
SGGM
UCAD
UCA
KPG
SGF
ECPN

Just for fun

JEAL
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Can anyone post L2 for CMKX?
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
IMO, UCAD rise is kinda related to CMKX. CMKX people who believed NSS might've bought UCAD and we know there are sevral thousands of people that believe CMKX NSS theory. JMO

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
x...the problem with that idea is that the shares are in our accounts. do you really think that all the brokers just put the numbers there and told the mm's to fill as you can? ucad is over and done with as far as cmkx is concerned other then releasing the restriction 1 yr from now. no cover, no squeeze. its this kind of theories that helps drive the pps down. ppl running their mouths saying "squeeze of all time" "shorted billions of shares" and then when nothing happens ppl get out. UCAD"S pps is going up because of UCAD not cmkx. i had a typo yesterday meant to say ucad's o/s is less then 29 million not 290 million. less then 29 million shares has gold coming in from at least 2 mines and 1 more about to get up & running, has diamonds close to coming in from south america, things getting set to do their own final refining of ore. yet ppl want to say its going up because of cmkx??? please

[This message has been edited by TruthTeller (edited October 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Jeal........

the L2 for CMKX = DEAD
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Is anyone here seriously planning on going to the Vegas party? Just wondering if we'll have an "Allstocks reporter" there. If not I'll have to talk Will into flying out there with me. What you think Will?
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
if something big happens many will go if nothing happens I dont see any reason for anyone to want to go. A kia???!!! nah
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, they will try to explain away their misjudgements and mistatements with any convenient arguement. The squeeze of the century was explained many times on these CMKX threads as CMKX short covering. There wasn't any mention of the stock that was to be the dividend rising, it always referenced the parent stock CMKX. The explanation was that there was so many naked shares out there that when the true O/S was forced to be accounted for by the UCAD dividend that they would have to buy real shares of CMKX from us at a higher price to cover their shorts. It never happened, so now the focus changes to UCAD. They will use this arguement to justify their misjudgement. No thank you, they can't have it anyway that is convenient to support their arguement, not alone both ways.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Up -

I would love to be a fly on the wall - however, due to the fact the our PPS is still - well - it isnt anything and I have lost on TSBI and NT, I will be grounded, but would love to hear from a respeceted "Allstocks reporter".

Anyone got a tip where I could make 1-2 K in the next three weeks with a 500.00 investment, then maybe I can go.....
 


Posted by will on :
 
Soory, buddy, I have to pass on going with you. I saw plenty enough of that carnival sideshow at the races a week or so ago. Could you imagine that times 500? Gungho, freaked out, three card monty playing, shell game playing, rabid CMKX'ers, no thanks. They'll be foaming at the mouth waititng for the holy and respected Mr. Glenn to speak. They will go into trances dancing with snakes and shaking themselves into shock. They will make a Shaker's prayer meeting look like they're sitting still.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Is anyone here seriously planning on going to the Vegas party? Just wondering if we'll have an "Allstocks reporter" there. If not I'll have to talk Will into flying out there with me. What you think Will?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
Soory, buddy, I have to pass on going with you. I saw plenty enough of that carnival sideshow at the races a week or so ago. Could you imagine that times 500? Gungho, freaked out, three card monty playing, shell game playing, rabid CMKX'ers, no thanks. They'll be foaming at the mouth waititng for the holy and respected Mr. Glenn to speak. They will go into trances dancing with snakes and shaking themselves into shock. They will make a Shaker's prayer meeting look like they're sitting still.

LOL!!!!! Come on though! We'll catch a red eye out, spend at most one night there and be back before the weekends out!
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
LMAO
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Soory, buddy, I have to pass on going with you. I saw plenty enough of that carnival sideshow at the races a week or so ago. Could you imagine that times 500? Gungho, freaked out, three card monty playing, shell game playing, rabid CMKX'ers, no thanks. They'll be foaming at the mouth waititng for the holy and respected Mr. Glenn to speak. They will go into trances dancing with snakes and shaking themselves into shock. They will make a Shaker's prayer meeting look like they're sitting still.



 


Posted by will on :
 
I can't! I don't think my heart could take it. Come on, UpMan, you saw that topogigo guy, anthony, the first guy we met. Now imagine that times a couple of thousand. If you had one skeptical thought they will read it on your face, and you very well may be in harms way. You definately be shunned, and probably dismissed from any activities.
After that race experience, believe me, I had more than enough. I like the idea that there might be one more little run for us before the end of October, but hate the idea of sharing space with people not grounded in reality. Besides, if you're not totally with them you may become the next episode of CSI.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Will:
LOL!!!!! Come on though! We'll catch a red eye out, spend at most one night there and be back before the weekends out!

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
sorry guys this is a UCAD party not a cmkx party...lol dont see any mention of cmkx and roger is a lawyer for ucad in some way. i'm guessing but i don't think you'll find anyone from cmkx management there. i mean would you want to show your face if you were UC?? or Melvin??. until cmkx gets real proof as in a testing labs report not we saw shiny things in the ground and reduces the o/s & a/s to 40 billion or less nothing is going to happen. and the only reason that might work is the hype from the zen's of cmkx. i can hear it now " reducing our o/s to 30 billion means a $100 pps in 3 weeks" ====================

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Shareholder Appreciation Party
September 21, 2004 4:26:00 PM ET


U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. UCAD announced today that it has arranged for a shareholder appreciation party to be held in Las Vegas from Oct. 29-31, 2004. The events for the weekend are centered around the Texas Station Hotel and Casino.

This event promises to be very exciting and one to remember for a long time. Bring your family and friends for a weekend with the management, staff and fellow shareholders of the company.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
anyone know what it takes to buy canadian stocks or which broker in the U.S. deals in them??
 
Posted by will on :
 
"Bring your family and friends for a weekend with the management, staff and fellow shareholders of the company. "

Don't forget to bring your barfbag from the airplane too!
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Bouncing at .0001-.0002....guys, I think its time to put our head between our legs and kiss our butts goodbye. Meanwhile, UCAD tops $18......we may be on the wrong horse....
Ed
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Will, you make it sound like a remake of the "Night of the Living Dead" movie or something. How bad can it be? Banished from all the fun filled CMKX activities? Oh no, well have to hit a casino. Come on, I'll book the flight online today! Just say the word.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Missing a lot of answers, noah.
Why don't you explain that "the squeeze of the century" one more time to me. Seems I have it ALL wrong.
Tell me where the 2nd set of samples are? Are they not important now?
Tell where CMKX is at in the process to becoming a reporting company?
Wait! I can guess the answer. You can't tell me, it isn't time yet. If CMKX answered those questions they would tip their hand, and expose the "master plan".
Yea, sorry I'm missing the real stuff.


quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Sorry you are all missing the fun on the real boards.

Will, thuoght you just came here to ask some questions. Seems you have all the answers now.

Sorry, can't stay there's real people with real DD elsewhere.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Here's one example of the "real dd" being done on Noah's other board from Dr. D.:

quote:
Hi all just a short word
« Thread started on: Today at 10:58am »

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Hi all just a short word.

The pressure is on the MM's and CMKX's manipulators and they are responding accordingly. These levels are to be expected for the time being. Roger is in control and CMKX is in no danger whatsoever in my opinion. All indicators point to the fact that the SEC is informed, the NSS is exposed, the NASD, NSCC, and the DTCC are responding internally with very possible political pressure being applied as well.

We have finally got the exposure we needed to our situation and the evidence is in hand with action being taken. I believe that CMKX’s manipulators are beginning to cover as the NSS are being funneled through at .0001-.0002. Some of us are still able to buy as these are moving from one MM account to another so if you so desire you may be able to take advantage of these lower numbers. This will not hold out very long in my opinion. The MM’s are still shorting into the movement from any buying pressure so the PPS is staying down. The clearing volume far exceeds the buying pressure at .0001 and .0002 right now so the PPS will stay down temporarily.

EFGI and CRWN are on the cliff on the ask and are doing the shorting into the movement and buying pressure in my opinion and other MM’s are buying in and shuffling.

UCAD will probably continue to rise throughout the week into a possible position for a 3 to 1 forward split if they can lock in above $20 by weeks end. GEMM is continuing to rise and SGGM is strong as ever showing that CMKX affiliates are a truer indicator of what CMKX is about to do than the manipulation we are seeing right now in our market.

We are all UCAD shareholders now and soon to be CIM and GEMM as well showing us that the plan of Urban is real and we are included in it. $100 investment in CMKX at .0001 gave you 1000000 shares. Now with the UCAD dividend and it’s increase in the PPS we currently would have received 9.62 shares per million or $158.73 at 16.50 showing that if you bought in at .0001 you are 58% profit in current value in your investment over your initial investment meaning your CMKX would be more than free or you have been paid to take them. Add into that the current value of your CMKX shares and you probably are way ahead of the game. Most of my shares were bought at .0001, .0002 and some up towards .0004 as probably the same with many of you. You can do the calculations from there to show your position if your medium is at .0002, .0003, or so on.

CIM is projected to come within a week and GEMM one month later. I agree some of these are restricted, but the value is there now and the restrictions can be removed.

We are staring at being fully reporting, having significant valuation, financial disclosure, etc… and some of us have a free ride plus already. Our related companies are smoking and we will too very soon in my opinion. PR’s should be in the frame work and we should move to .0003 and over very soon as well.

CMKX’s day is coming and it will make the movements by UCAD, GEMM, SGGM, etc… look like nothing in my opinion. Good things are coming and change is in the air.

We are in a great position. Keep in touch with things pretty closely over the next week to 10 trading days. These will be very significant in myopinion to determining the direction that the NSS position is going to take, how it will go, and when.

Just my opinion’s and I ask that you treat them as such.

Success is at hand!

Dr.D


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Keep the faith. If you don't have it, get it, if you lost it, find it, If you don't know what it is, ask someone, but whatever you do keep the faith.
CMKX is the means!


I especially like the end tag line. "CMKX is the means!"

 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
UCAD up 32% - I think I am going to cry
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
POLL -

If you had to pick one of the other stocks to invest in to make a quick turn around and on the other hand long term, which one would it be and why?

GEMM
SGGM
UCAD
UCA
KPG
SGF
ECPN

Just for fun

JEAL


Well?


 


Posted by will on :
 
CMKX -0.0001.......-.0001.
Better yet noah, tell me how those real people with 40, 50, 60, 100 million shares that paid $15,000, $20,000, and $25,000 + for feel, seeing that .0001. Makes 50 million worth $5,000. Suppose their real DD made them that nice loss. Suppose they're happy they're in over their heads.
.0001 / .0002 is a fact, explain how they will make good on their wise investment of $25,000+.
Maybe you'll just tell me I don't understand what is going on with this stock. Maybe you'll tell me I see negatives where there isn't any. Well, I sure can see .0001 / .0002, you may deny it's trading there, but that is reality, my friend.
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Hopefully we all see this day before we die..


quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Here's one example of the "real dd" being done on Noah's other board from Dr. D.:
_______________________________________

CMKX’s day is coming and it will make the movements by UCAD, GEMM, SGGM, etc… look like nothing in my opinion

_______________________________________



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
We are staring at being fully reporting, having significant valuation, financial disclosure, etc… and some of us have a free ride plus already. Our related companies are smoking and we will too very soon in my opinion. PR’s should be in the frame work and we should move to .0003 and over very soon as well.

============================================

ok dr. d went from .50 a week ago to .0003???? great dd took a lot of looking around to come up with that theory. seriously, way too much prozac being passed out these days
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 

Member posted October 12, 2004 14:47
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quote:
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Originally posted by JEAL:
POLL -
If you had to pick one of the other stocks to invest in to make a quick turn around and on the other hand long term, which one would it be and why?

GEMM
SGGM
UCAD
UCA
KPG
SGF
ECPN

Just for fun

==================================

UCA....they bought they uranium claims before selling 50% to cmkx and they have 25% of the diamond claims plus other claims in canada and a low a/s & o/s. thats why i askerd about buying canadian stocks in the US
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Sorry you are all missing the fun on the real boards.

Will, thuoght you just came here to ask some questions. Seems you have all the answers now.

Sorry, can't stay there's real people with real DD elsewhere.


Noad, Is there another board for CMKX that others can attend?

Apologies Noah not Noad....

[This message has been edited by JEAL (edited October 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Soory, buddy, I have to pass on going with you. I saw plenty enough of that carnival sideshow at the races a week or so ago. Could you imagine that times 500? Gungho, freaked out, three card monty playing, shell game playing, rabid CMKX'ers, no thanks. They'll be foaming at the mouth waititng for the holy and respected Mr. Glenn to speak. They will go into trances dancing with snakes and shaking themselves into shock. They will make a Shaker's prayer meeting look like they're sitting still.



Wow, I'll bet you are a lot of fun. Let's see, you don't like fat people, ugly people, dumb people, rabid foaming at the mouth gungho carnival people, I'm sure I've forgotten some. Your problem, Will, is that you don't like people at all. You hide yourself behind the screen, criticze others, and judge. I'll bet you're just a blast to party with. Hey Upside, I'd be careful going to Las Vegas with this guy, he could get you killed. I think a hooker would castrate him when he tried to short her/him.

lmao...

By the way, how about that GEMM? The smart money bought and sold. I guess you guys got into that one, right? I did't think so.

Vegas just might be fun. Sorry you can't be there.

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i agree work...smart money bought everyone cmkx was involved with as soon as it became know...ucad was $3, gemm .03, sggm .02...today ucad's high $18.75, gemm .192, sggm .47. and i'd watch UCA for the next 6 months as they get closer to going after the uranium they are at .42 today with under 17 million o/s any good news about uranium will send it
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
By the way, how about that GEMM? The smart money bought and sold. I guess you guys got into that one, right? I did't think so.

Nope, I didn't. The only one I know of who actually did was Van. He talked about them a month or so ago and I didn't agree with him. He was right, I was wrong. I'm sure now that it's had a meteoric rise many here will claim to have bought in but I for one didn't.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm in your boat up....i had it in my head to buy gemm and didn't because i'm broke...lol but i scraped up money to triple my qbid...bad move...could have got the same q and had cash left to play with
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by will:
Soory, buddy, I have to pass on going with you. I saw plenty enough of that carnival sideshow at the races a week or so ago. Could you imagine that times 500? Gungho, freaked out, three card monty playing, shell game playing, rabid CMKX'ers, no thanks. They'll be foaming at the mouth waititng for the holy and respected Mr. Glenn to speak. They will go into trances dancing with snakes and shaking themselves into shock. They will make a Shaker's prayer meeting look like they're sitting still.

[/QUO

LOL Will... This has to be the post of the day.
 


Posted by cndboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
Tiger tony and will I never meet people like you guys that i know for a fact that invested in CMKX and talk so bad about it. People like you guys should not be in this business. And will I have no clue why people listen to you. you know nothing about stocks.


U tell them sarki for some ^$##@#'UP Reason I believe your right....


Everything that I invest in I make money. I had alot of money on Sirius stock got in at .60 a share for 100,000 shares. CMKX will make money WILL!!!!!!!! And tiger tony CDVJ will make it's move. Like I told everybody in the CDVJ board people are waiting for the Airport hub to go and this stock will start to move. I don't do DD to people in message boards. The DD too you guys are the PR. read them and do your reasearch.

CMKX WILL NOT GO UNDER!!!! AND IS NOT A SCAM WILL ALL THOSE PR COMMING OUT. @0.0002 HOW THE HECK CAN YOU LOSE WE GOT FREE SHARES AND MORE TOO COME. WILL YOUR FULL OF CRAP BRO.



 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i agree work...smart money bought everyone cmkx was involved with as soon as it became know...ucad was $3, gemm .03, sggm .02...today ucad's high $18.75, gemm .192, sggm .47. and i'd watch UCA for the next 6 months as they get closer to going after the uranium they are at .42 today with under 17 million o/s any good news about uranium will send it

It's easy to second guess. If you'd sold all your CMKX at the .0005 level, used 3/5 of it to buy UCAD at about $4 foregoing the dividend, then bought CMKX back with the remaining 2/5 at .0002 you'd not only have your original CMKX but the UCAD "dividend" for you would have been .000075. That's about 8 times the amount of the real dividend, and the shares would have been un restricted!

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
You're right Gator, it is easy to second guess but in this case Van kind of spelled it out and it didn't have anything to do with wild theories or anything like that. He simply stated that it looked like the value was going to be flowing into the partners and away from CMKX. I agreed with him on the CMKX side of it but couldn't see any big increase in value in UCAD or GEMM. Sometimes it pays to listen and not be so quick to dismiss as I was in this case.
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
Well hate to inform you but i did'nt buy cmkx.And if you call DD posting comments like cdvj will be at .25 buy the first of the year and you believe it i got a new machine that will turn cowpies into diamonds I am sure you're interested be at a buck by next year.Going all over the place touting prices that cdvj will be.25 buy year end and cmkx will be .10 I go on facts not dreams. If you are positive fine but don't make outrageous claims just because you want it to be at that price.Now go finish reading the enquirer.Good luck and i hope those prices come true.But you have no evidence to support those claims.
quote:
Originally posted by cndboy:


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by tigertony:
quote:
i got a new machine that will turn cowpies into diamonds

Hate to break the news to you tony but that's not a new machine. CashCowMoo claims to be able to do that already. Wait a minute... on second thought I think he said his udders give diamonds so maybe your machine will be an enhancement. Do I smell a merger in the making?
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Hey if you keep throwing crap against the wall eventually something will stick.Another example of crystal ball usage.Sources what sources a bunch of theory's from alot of people losing there ass right now that bought all your BS in the first place. I hope you're happy costing all those people there money.Anybody that bought into your hype just on those two stocks are standing on a bridge getting ready to jump.

Originally posted by sarki316:
PENCIL OCT 21ST ON YOUR CALANDER. THAT IS WHEN CMKX WILL BE FULLY REPORTING FROM MY SOURCES.
THAT IS WHEN IT WILL MAKE IT'S MOVE

 


Posted by skippy on :
 
I agreed with Van when he made his prediction. I had the opportunity to buy UCAD at $5.00 but didn't. I got into something else at the time. As soon as I saw UCAD start to move I did jump into GEMM at .033. I jumped out at .066. Should have got back in at .045 but for some reason didn't. I jumped back in today at .19 (lucky me) and I still believe it will run further. I got into SGGM at .44 today as well. I'm just looking to play the perception run and will hold them until there is some PR and make a decision as to what to do at that point. I'm still kicking myself for not picking up UCAD at $5.
 
Posted by sarki316 on :
 
Tonytiger If you dont own any CMKX stock then I have no more to say to you. LOSER!!!!!

I NEVER MET A PERSON WHO POSTS ON A MESSAGE BOARD ABOUT A STOCK HE DOSENT OWN.

TONYTIGER GET LOST!!!!!


quote:
Originally posted by tigertony:
Hey if you keep throwing crap against the wall eventually something will stick.Another example of crystal ball usage.Sources what sources a bunch of theory's from alot of people losing there ass right now that bought all your BS in the first place. I hope you're happy costing all those people there money.Anybody that bought into your hype just on those two stocks are standing on a bridge getting ready to jump.

Originally posted by sarki316:
PENCIL OCT 21ST ON YOUR CALANDER. THAT IS WHEN CMKX WILL BE FULLY REPORTING FROM MY SOURCES.
THAT IS WHEN IT WILL MAKE IT'S MOVE



 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
bill i disagree with you
ucad started going up in a serious way
on the 6th oct
the pay-day of the dividend
so did the other dividend stocks

p.s. did everybody get their ucad dividends

and another P.S.
Why is EVERYBODY so whinie on this BOARD

I HAVE ALLREADY MORE IN UCAD VALUE IN MY ACCOUNT THAN I PUT INTO CMKX

let`s wait for the other dividends

PATIENCE IS THE ESSENCE!
anybody smart would load up now
where could it possibly go from here?

UP!
EXACTLY!
buy low sell hi
right

and anybody who mentions B.K. is a total fool!

split?
very unlikely!
it hasn`t helped any cellar-boxed company before.

I WOULD SAY ANOTHER BUYING OPPORTUNITY!


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by sarki316:
quote:
Tonytiger If you dont own any CMKX stock then I have no more to say to you. LOSER!!!!!
I NEVER MET A PERSON WHO POSTS ON A MESSAGE BOARD ABOUT A STOCK HE DOSENT OWN.

TONYTIGER GET LOST!!!!!


Sarki,
You are aware of the fact that you are viewed as nothing but a joke on this and many other threads, right? You have made so many date specific predictions based on your "sources" and not one, not a single one of them has ever come true. I remember the CMKX and QBID prediction you made on the same day based on your "contacts" on the floor of the NYSE. Keep posting though, at least one person (me) is amused by you. You're not credible enough to do any real harm.


 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Where's Wallace LOL.Sarki i hope you make money.you throw out outlandish price predictions.LOSER hmm cdvj cmkx hmm don,t look in the mirror.I will post any where i want with facts.
quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
Tonytiger If you dont own any CMKX stock then I have no more to say to you. LOSER!!!!!

I NEVER MET A PERSON WHO POSTS ON A MESSAGE BOARD ABOUT A STOCK HE DOSENT OWN.

TONYTIGER GET LOST!!!!!




 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Well .... CMKX closed at .000175 - just that .000025 lost me another 2k dollars. this is fudged up I tell ya!! ggggrrrr
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
I am a very neutral party here and post very seldom and when I do, its all neutral and very meaningless - board please feel free to verify as I am sure you will....

Although I dont agree with Sarki, I do have to ask what TonyTiger's interest in CMKX is - weather postive or negative if you own no shares or have interest in such an acqusition....
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Hey Upside,hope you're making money.I just get tired of ridiculous visions of granger being posted as fact.If they have an opinion or are positive great,but throwing out price predictions come on.Sources, now he's friggen Deep throat under cover.Good Luck,you to sarki
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Tiger Tony

I apologize, in my previous post, I have your name as Tony Tiger.
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Like everyone been following the whole saga.And sarki has a habit of posting outlandish price quotes and theory's.I also know people that do own it upside,will.Any way tired of that crap not just on cmkx.Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
I am a very neutral party here and post very seldom and when I do, its all neutral and very meaningless - board please feel free to verify as I am sure you will....

Although I dont agree with Sarki, I do have to ask what TonyTiger's interest in CMKX is - weather postive or negative if you own no shares or have interest in such an acqusition....



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
JEAL,
Not knocking you at all but haven't you ever posted on a thread where you don't hold a position? Someone asks "Does anyone know anything about xyz stock?" so you do a little research for someone and post what you find or just offer a suggestion. That's kind of the nature of these things at least in my opinion.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I bought GEMM at .0605 but only bought 900 shares. I am thinking of buying more tomorrow. I want to get in on UCA but I am unable to purchase that stock through myTrack. I guess they don't deal internationally.
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Nope, I didn't. The only one I know of who actually did was Van. He talked about them a month or so ago and I didn't agree with him. He was right, I was wrong. I'm sure now that it's had a meteoric rise many here will claim to have bought in but I for one didn't.



 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
JEAL, no big deal.Hope it works out and you make money.Facts are Facts,Theory's are Theory's,Truth's are Truth's.Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Tiger Tony

I apologize, in my previous post, I have your name as Tony Tiger.



 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Upside - no knock taken

Just curious thats all. I agree with you 100%. Its just that if I do ask for opinions and tips ( as I did earlier today so that I can make a couple of G so I can go to Vegas as the "allstocks"reporter ) I dont hash out at the other members. Please remember, that although I would love to see Sarki prove us all worng, realism is that he may be a little off.

I am fortunate enough to be in at 0.0001 so I am only out my trade fee. However, frustration does set in by many, and dreams of the BIG one get smaller, but.......
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
TigerTony,

You are exactly right. Opinions are such, Theories are such, as well as facts.

However, Sarki included - does this mean that ones whos are different require the actions of 12 year old children in a school yard. This is not a childs gaming board, but an investors board, where people use there hard earned money - reagrdless of the amount - in the effort of "getting ahead". I would like to believe that we are all a little above this thats all....maybe my expecations here are too high.

Tigertony - regardless of your investments, I do hope that you profit from those. GL
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by tigertony:
quote:
Hey Upside,hope you're making money

Making more on our football thread that I am anywhere else and even that's only around break even. Better days ahead methinks though.
 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
I understand the frustration
we all thought we would be rich by now or a month or two ago
i missed selling at 1000% profit,it was my intention that morning but something computer related didn`t work and two hours later i decided to hold.
i did my DD

and decided maybe it`s the only stock worth holding!
YOU CAN`T LOOSE!
we all wan`t to become rich.
there is allways frustration in the market
yesterday i decided to post here again ,
because this board was getting weak
and i missed out on a 220% daytrade run
that i was looking at before i posted.

my take on CMKX
buy
hold
and see what happens
like i said if you in at 0.0001 or 0.0002
you can`t loose
the volume is not going to die on you on this one
all we need is one little diamond-mine
and how big are the chances of not finding one in fort de la corne, it looks to me it`s like not finding a hay stack in the mid -west
0.0002=it`s time to load up more


 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
I hear you, my own cmkx is mlon so i know the feeling.But like you and will i deal in reality and fact.Onward and upward.Good Luck JEAL go read the last 4 or 5 pages of mlon thread and you will know how i handle a similar situation.
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by tigertony:
Making more on our football thread that I am anywhere else and even that's only around break even. Better days ahead methinks though.


 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
A PROFESSIONAL TRADER WOULD ONLY POST on A BOARD WHERE HE OWNS A POSSITION !

a basher get`s paid to do that

i would only post negatively the i day get out
and then forget about it

who has the time!



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
x...not trying to argue but on the 4th ucad was just under $5 on the 6th it went down to $8 from $10 and yes it has been going up since and yes i rounded the numbers but here are the prs headlines since.......

05:30 AM BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. Announces Initiation of COD Operations

10/08/04 BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Financier Langley Park Actively Trading

10/07/04 BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Langley Park Investment Trust Plc Now Trading on London Stock Exchange

10/06/04 BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Financier Cleared for Trading on London Stock Exchange

10/05/04 BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals to Release Schedule for Funding


now if you go back to aug you see that evrything is falling into place as respect to their mining interests. the same holds true for gemm thats also why if i could get a few grand together i'd take a feiry ride across the river and set an account up in canada & buy UCA
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
I do have the time i am disabled and in bed 95 percent of the time.Secondly if you look i hardly ever post on this thread.I posted in response to someones outlandish remarks that are on other stocks as well.Third i am definetly not a professional.LOL professionals would'nt hold this stock anyway.They mainly daytrade.Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by XchangeMODE:
A PROFESSIONAL TRADER WOULD ONLY POST on A BOARD WHERE HE OWNS A POSSITION !

a basher get`s paid to do that

i would only post negatively the i day get out
and then forget about it

who has the time!



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
x...thats one thing we agree on with all the hype i do believe cmkx will make me a profit, i'd even like an r/s if it wasn't more then 40/1 i'd trade my 2 million shares for 50,000 in a reporting cmkx with a 18 billion o/s and a 20 billion a/s. with all the hype & the pumpers the float would be gone in no time & the pps would hit .50 easy
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
I will leave you guy's to there theory's and price predictions.I will go bash another stock thats my job and i get paid well.oh brother you guy's will probably believe that theory too.Later and Good Luck

 
Posted by Trade Dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
x...not trying to argue but on the 4th ucad was just under $5 on the 6th it went down to $8 from $10 and yes it has been going up since and yes i rounded the numbers but here are the prs headlines since.......

05:30 AM BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. Announces Initiation of COD Operations

10/08/04 BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Financier Langley Park Actively Trading

10/07/04 BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Langley Park Investment Trust Plc Now Trading on London Stock Exchange

10/06/04 BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Financier Cleared for Trading on London Stock Exchange

10/05/04 BusinessWire U.S. Canadian Minerals to Release Schedule for Funding


now if you go back to aug you see that evrything is falling into place as respect to their mining interests. the same holds true for gemm thats also why if i could get a few grand together i'd take a feiry ride across the river and set an account up in canada & buy UCA


UCRUF.PK == UCA

 


Posted by AoneFischer on :
 
will
Member posted October 12, 2004 14:49
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CMKX -0.0001.......-.0001.
Better yet noah, tell me how those real people with 40, 50, 60, 100 million shares that paid $15,000, $20,000, and $25,000 + for feel, seeing that .0001. Makes 50 million worth $5,000. Suppose their real DD made them that nice loss. Suppose they're happy they're in over their heads.
.0001 / .0002 is a fact, explain how they will make good on their wise investment of $25,000+.
Maybe you'll just tell me I don't understand what is going on with this stock. Maybe you'll tell me I see negatives where there isn't any. Well, I sure can see .0001 / .0002, you may deny it's trading there, but that is reality, my friend.


I have an easy reply to this will. SomeOne that invested that kinda of money has already put there faith in cmkx before this company was even reporting . do you think that these people just poped that kind of money because of noah or dr.d. They obviously researched into this company and came to the conclusion that something good is going to happen to this stock. It doesnt take a genius to relize the potential there is in this stock figuring in all the factors. Maybe people are getting all worked up because they were expecting to make a million dollars and it hasnt happened yet. Be patient and relize that this stock is still a decent play especially if you buy in low. hang tight!
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Noah got bounced and he asked me to say good bye from him. He has no hard feelings and wanted to include everyone and especially Wallace and Company. I know Noah enjoyed posting here and spent a lot of time with you all. He is appreciated and welcomed at other boards. Good luck to everyone with (or without)CMKX. God Bless-Debi
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Why did Noah get bounced?
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AoneFischer:
will
Member posted October 12, 2004 14:49

I agree Aone, The .0001 doesn't bother me at all. It is no more the value of this stock than .0005 or .0011. I have continued to buy this stock and now have 72+ million shares. My only regret is I didn't swing trade and get more or free shares when the opportunity for them was there. Hindsight is so clear.

I did buy some of the dividends. I thought Van was wrong when he was talking about that here a while ago. I now think Van is a genius and listen with both ears. I finally bought some UCAD at $10.95 last week and felt a little foolish for buying high. I sold today at $17.50 on the second trip down. I also bought a little GEMM at the open today at .155 and sold at .178. Since I am getting these as dividends I can trade them and not worry about the price fluctuations.

I think the dividend stocks are going up because the dividends need to be paid on the short CMKX shares. I think CMKX will have it's meteoric rise in price sometime soon. When it is too painful to not cover. That is when change occurs. When the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of changing. IMO-Debi
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Upside-Bob bounced him after his last post. It wasn't anything bounce worthy IMO. Bob deleted the post.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Sad. I'll miss him.
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Thanks Upside, I'll let him know. He really likes it here. I'll be back in a week or so when I have either 77 million CMKX shares or the price finally explodes. God Bless-Debi

I will stop at 77 Million I am pretty sure.
 


Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
"Originally posted by noahltl:
Sorry you are all missing the fun on the real boards. Will, thuoght you just came here to ask some questions. Seems you have all the answers now. Sorry, can't stay there's real people with real DD elsewhere. "

We wish him all the best...
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Debi:
quote:
I will stop at 77 Million I am pretty sure.

Think so? Can you?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Bob,
I know from experience that your policy is no advertising of or promoting other sites but he didn't really make specific mention of any other site and his "dd" comment was directed at our pack of clowns here on this thread, not your site in particular. You let me back on once after I mentioned a competing site, how about giving Noah a second chance too? I'll respect your decision either way.
 
Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
We have let a lot worse back in.

All they did was ask.

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Bob Frey:
quote:
We have let a lot worse back in.

Again, I know that from first hand experience. Thanks Bob!
 


Posted by will on :
 
Bob, don't be so harsh. He was more jagging me than allstocks. Give him a break, he's good people, no matter how much we argue and fight. I like the guy.
Surely others have sinned much worse than he, and you were generous and forgiving.

quote:
Originally posted by Bob Frey:
"Originally posted by noahltl:
Sorry you are all missing the fun on the real boards. Will, thuoght you just came here to ask some questions. Seems you have all the answers now. Sorry, can't stay there's real people with real DD elsewhere. "

We wish him all the best...



 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i second this idea

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Bob,
I know from experience that your policy is no advertising of or promoting other sites but he didn't really make specific mention of any other site and his "dd" comment was directed at our pack of clowns here on this thread, not your site in particular. You let me back on once after I mentioned a competing site, how about giving Noah a second chance too? I'll respect your decision either way.


 


Posted by will on :
 
Debi, Debi, Debi, can't wait until you hit your lucky number 77M, or this meteoric PPS happens. I'd like to see you back too. I miss you and the word kvetching. Make your .0001 buy, and hurry back.
No fun arguing with sarki and Upside.
 
Posted by shadow on :
 
Bob,

You ought to let Noah back-in...

Going to get pretty boring without his
posts. A good part of Allstocks are the humerous posts and assessing the thought
behind the replies. I think Noah was a contributor.
(don't agree with all of his views but
definitely worth a read every now and then.)

This board has been losing many of the old
timers and the quailty has been diminishing
since the Uncle left...

Think you might want to reconsider your
decision regarding Noah.


Shad.



 


Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
By the way...

I have only one hope for this stock and all stocks that folks post about or invest in.

I wish every AllStocks.com visiter's investments make them a profit.

I also wish that some threads didn't turn into a bunch of "clowns" messing the dialog up for others.

I guess the biggest problem is we can't delete every personal comment so we have to let most go. I have ignored many pointed our way.

Good luck to all and thank you to all who use AllStocks.com.

We have some very good things comming in the near future. Of course they will as ever be FREE to use.

Bob
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
No fun arguing with sarki and Upside.

WHADDYA MEAN NO FUN? Wanna kvetch, say the word big boy, I'll kvetch with ya!

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Bob Frey:
quote:
By the way...
I have only one hope for this stock and all stocks that folks post about or invest in.

I wish every AllStocks.com visiter's investments make them a profit.

I also wish that some threads didn't turn into a bunch of "clowns" messing the dialog up for others.

I guess the biggest problem is we can't delete every personal comment so we have to let most go. I have ignored many pointed our way.

Good luck to all and thank you to all who use AllStocks.com.

We have some very good things comming in the near future. Of course they will as ever be FREE to use.

Bob


Applause from the crowd!


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
so are you going to bring back Noah?

quote:
Originally posted by Bob Frey:
By the way...

I have only one hope for this stock and all stocks that folks post about or invest in.

I wish every AllStocks.com visiter's investments make them a profit.

I also wish that some threads didn't turn into a bunch of "clowns" messing the dialog up for others.

I guess the biggest problem is we can't delete every personal comment so we have to let most go. I have ignored many pointed our way.

Good luck to all and thank you to all who use AllStocks.com.

We have some very good things comming in the near future. Of course they will as ever be FREE to use.

Bob



 


Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
so are you going to bring back Noah?


We have let a lot worse back in.
All they did was ask.


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
thanks

WWJD-thru-me did you see this. pass the message on to Noah please .

thanks


Rod

quote:
Originally posted by Bob Frey:
We have let a lot worse back in.
All they did was ask.



 


Posted by will on :
 
Someone that is in contact with noah please let him know. You will have to convince him to swallow his pride, and ask though.
C'mon noah, you know I love ya man. Get your reposting butt back in here. You can even bring that nasty byrd with ya.
 
Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
Will,

some things will just not happen...



 


Posted by will on :
 
Do you mean to say, my buddy byrd is on the byrd sh|tlist?

quote:
Originally posted by Bob Frey:
Will,

some things will just not happen...



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
No byrd? Oh well, we better not push it!
 
Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
I said all I am saying on that...
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I think cmkx might do ok sometime in the long run but honestly anyone that invests 50 thousand dollars in ANY stock ANY STOCK that is worth .0002 must be insane. thats just insane wow or maybe just million aires with money to throw away.
 
Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
Anyway now that ya got me typing you folks notice that we have only had people problems on two threads?

I guess two is not to bad considering the hundreds of threads out here.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Which two? This one and the prior CMKX one that's now closed?
 
Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
No we had problems on the QBID thread as well. All has been fine there for a bit now... ( knock on wood )
 
Posted by will on :
 
Hey, just thought I'd ask for everything. He's a vile creature, but he did make me laugh.
I hope you haven't eliminated Wallace too. It's been a couple days since I've seen him. Hope he is well.
It gets crazy here. It's one of those love/hate things. Kinda/sorta like family. I just bought a little CMKX, I couldn't pick whoelse should be allowed to buy it. Now that they have, and they became the faithful, I have no choice, there not like brothers and sisters, but they are CMKX'ers. no matter what there crazy beliefs.
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
No byrd? Oh well, we better not push it!


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
my guess is the other being QBID

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Which two? This one and the prior CMKX one that's now closed?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Bob Frey:
quote:
( knock on wood )

That's not an attempt at a subtle QBID/gay innuendo is it?
 


Posted by will on :
 
Ban him Bob! LOL
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Bob Frey:
That's not an attempt at a subtle QBID/gay innuendo is it?


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
for some reason my posts arent showing up

Working now?

[This message has been edited by Allstocks (edited October 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by lostone on :
 
i don't know if anyone else has asked this, but i don't have the time to read everything through..
I have a question regarding tax filing. So would I include my UCAD dividends in my report, even if i haven't and can't sell them this year? TIA
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
ya i cant see them either lol


sorry couldnt resist that one


quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
for some reason my posts arent showing up


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Hey Will,That was one hell of a 'gap-up'LOL UCAD had today wasn't it?
Maybe you won't be in hell before I can say I you I told ya so after all.(keep your chin up)
If UCAD keeps on going how there going,do you see a fs in store?
Barchart likes 'em pretty good as well in the short,mid,and long term.


 


Posted by will on :
 
You know when I saw that thing bouncing around the $18, $19, mark, I thought of you, and the devil snapping at my ass. I was thinking, "past the 1/2 way mark, freking child wants to see me buring in hell!" LOL
Glad something is going right for this play. Now all you have to do is hope they don't restrict them forever, or destroy the company before they become unrestricted. Don't be surprised to see some retracing there either, remember nothing goes straight up. Regarding a forward split, I have no idea, the CEO did say he'd like to split at $30, if it keeps chugging you will see if he means what he says.
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Hey Will,That was one hell of a 'gap-up'LOL UCAD had today wasn't it?
Maybe you won't be in hell before I can say I you I told ya so after all.(keep your chin up)
If UCAD keeps on going how there going,do you see a fs in store?
Barchart likes 'em pretty good as well in the short,mid,and long term.



 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Wrong Co. it is UCA-V.
quote:
Originally posted by Trade Dog:
UCRUF.PK == UCA


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Now that I have the correct symbol UCA-V my online trading program will let me buy those shares! WOOO HOOO !!
Bill don't you use myTrade also?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
tradeing...no i was going to switch to them so i talked a few times on the phone. i'm still with ameritrade..........thanks for the US version of UCA. if they do find uranium and since they are the lead company, the one looking for uranium it might be found in our lifetimes at .42 and judging from the rest of the cmkx partners it just might have a big run in its future..........as for noah, i agree no reason to ban him. he has his opinion and since i own cmkx i hope he's right. i'd rather get the returns he thinks are in cmkx then what i think it there...lol. there's just too many realistic cmkx shareholders in here now, no pie-in-the-sky-guys & gals. truth is i don't think WWJD will get hurt buying 77 million shares in fact if her risk threashold is that big i'd go for 80 million as i have a feeling cmkx is going to be rolled into CIM with an o/s of 20 billion which is a 40/1 rs 80 million would be 2 million after. and a good real report would send the pps way up. the "faithful" would buy up 20 billion in a week thus sending the pps up

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Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
check this out - http://www.diamondplay.com/s/Region-Saskatchewan.asp
CMKM is NOT listed.
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
I've seen the name BBX Equity group on a thread before. What does anyone know about them?
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. Announces Forward Split
Wednesday October 13, 5:30 am ET

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 13, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTCBB:UCAD - News) announced today that a 3 for 1 forward split of its Common and Preferred A shares has been approved. The Company is today notifying Nasdaq of such approval and the Company will be filing the appropriate paperwork with the goal of having the forward split reflected at the earliest possible time. The Company anticipates that said change will be reflected by Nasdaq within 10 business days.

Rendal Williams, CEO of U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. stated "We expect that this restructuring will allow the shareholder value to continue its current increase and allow for additional future financing avenues."

Further details relative to this transaction can be found at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

Contact:

U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc.
Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Hey Will,I think R. W. means what he says.
I told ya so.LOL


 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Looks like Dr. D nailed one:

"UCAD will probably continue to rise throughout the week into a possible position for a 3 to 1 forward split"

Upside
Member posted October 12, 2004 14:45            

 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
My UCAD divvy and split has more than paid for my CMKX investment.


 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
My UCAD divvy and split has more than paid for my CMKX investment.


I should say WILL HAVE more than paid...
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Bill - along with UCA.v - I would look seriously at this one too..... ECPN.OB


El Capitan Joint Venture Partner U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Initiation of COD Operations
Wednesday October 13, 7:05 am ET


PHOENIX--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 13, 2004--El Capitan Precious Metals, Inc. (OTCBB:ECPN - News) announced today that its joint venture partner, U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTCBB:UCAD - News), announced in a press release dated October 12, 2004, the initiation of operations at the COD mine located near Kingman, Arizona. The press release is as follows:
U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. Announces Initiation of COD

Operations

October 12, 2004--Las Vegas, Nevada--U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (UCAD) announced today that it initiated the commencement of operations at the COD mine in Arizona. The company has contracted for the first stage of bulk sampling on the property and the improvements of the access and facilities at the site.

Rendal Williams, CEO of U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. stated, "We are pleased to have commenced operations which will lead to full scale production from this property in the near future and are excited by the future returns we believe this property will generate."

Further details relative to this transaction can be found at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

El Capitan and UCAD executed a joint venture agreement in May 2004 through which UCAD acquired an 80% interest in the COD mine in exchange for 720,000 shares of UCAD common stock. Net profits from the operations will be split equally among El Capitan and UCAD.

El Capitan Precious Metals, Inc. is a nominally capitalized development stage company that owns a 40% interest in the El Capitan mine located near Capitan, New Mexico, as well as a joint venture and 20% ownership of 13 mining claims and other assets known as the COD Property located near Kingman, Arizona.

The statements included in this press release concerning predictions of economic performance and management's plans and objectives constitute forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, and Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors which could cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, factors detailed in El Capitan Precious Metals Securities and Exchange Commission filings; economic downturns affecting the operations of El Capitan Precious Metals; the inability to initiate or complete a possible sale of the El Capitan or COD properties or any other restructuring, offering, acquisition, disposition, joint venture or similar transaction; adverse financial performance by El Capitan Precious Metals; failure to obtain or maintain regulatory approval for products and services offered by El Capitan Precious Metals; the accuracy of geological and geophysical results including drilling and assay reports; the inability of the Company to develop and/or mine the El Capitan or COD properties; and the unavailability of financing to complete management's plans and objectives. The forward-looking statements contained in this press release speak only as of the date hereof and El Capitan Precious Metals disclaims any intent or obligation to update these forward-looking statements.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact:
El Capitan Precious Metals, Inc.
Chuck Mottley, 480-948-0724
or
U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc.
Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476

 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Before we get all excited, remember we hold restricted shares of UCAD. Does anyone know for sure if those shares will be subject to the forward split??
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Before we get all excited, remember we hold restricted shares of UCAD. Does anyone know for sure if those shares will be subject to the forward split??

They'd better be. Shares is shares. The restriction should only affect if we can sell them or not.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Yes, he did. It was a race rumour as well.

I hope he nails at least a few more

Good luck to all!!

quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Looks like Dr. D nailed one:

"UCAD will probably continue to rise throughout the week into a possible position for a 3 to 1 forward split"

Upside
Member posted October 12, 2004 14:45            



 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Well are we going to .0003 today on the UCAD news??
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
More likely to .0001......
quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Well are we going to .0003 today on the UCAD news??


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
JEAL
Member posted October 13, 2004 07:54
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill - along with UCA.v - I would look seriously at this one too..... ECPN.OB


I've been watching it JEAL it has been rising slowly for a month. my whole problem is NO CASH DA****..lol
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Bill - have to hate those minor details eh?

LOL

Maybe a lemonade stand would help.

I am seriously thinking of throwing a very small amount at ECPN -
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
I have to admit I'm impressed with the UCAD news. Seems a little premature though. I just hope ours are included in the split as well, as they aren't free trading shares that are actually part of the public float.
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Can anyone help?

quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
I've seen the name BBX Equity group on a thread before. What does anyone know about them?


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
cmkx has no stake in ucad anymore unless they increased the o/s into the treasury as they gave all shares to shareholders. and if they did put ucad shares into the treasury they haven't told anyone. the only deal that cmkx has made that could put money into cmkx's pocket is the new one with UCA. sggm gave them shares but they dont do anything to make money as far as anyone can tell.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm sure they are UP...it says all common shares and we got restricted common. that is one area that unrestricted & restricted are the same thing
==============================
tic-toc, from what i remember they have no stake in anything concerning cmkx. a few have said they are the money behind UC in all this
=====================================
JEAL...don't ya know it. a stock i've owned and sold awhile ago because it was sliding came out with great news last nite and no way to ride it up today. BTOR. they closed at .0061 and are at .0095 now. i need the IRS off my back...lol
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
cmkx has no stake in ucad anymore unless they increased the o/s into the treasury as they gave all shares to shareholders. and if they did put ucad shares into the treasury they haven't told anyone. the only deal that cmkx has made that could put money into cmkx's pocket is the new one with UCA. sggm gave them shares but they dont do anything to make money as far as anyone can tell.

But what if...

What's 300 Billion shares X .00000962 ?

2,886,000 shares of UCAD?

X 3 split ?


 


Posted by Stogie on :
 
Y'all,
How long are the newly distributed UCAD shares restricted?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Unannounced. You never know with these guys. Could be a year+, or that just might be the money for shareholders to travel to Vegas by end of October. You'll have to wait to see.

quote:
Originally posted by wnycowboy:
Y'all,
How long are the newly distributed UCAD shares restricted?


 


Posted by Stogie on :
 
I don't think it would cover a cheap flight. Maybe a bus ticket if the stock ever goes back up! Thanks

 
Posted by will on :
 
That would depend on how many shares you have. I have 14 shares, X $15, $210, just pays for a flight from Chicago to Vegas. No, I'm not going, we discussed that yesterday. LOL

quote:
Originally posted by wnycowboy:
I don't think it would cover a cheap flight. Maybe a bus ticket if the stock ever goes back up! Thanks


 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wnycowboy:
Y'all,
How long are the newly distributed UCAD shares restricted?

Looks like at least a year:
http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/rule144.htm

I suppose it is possible for the company itself to raise the restriction any time, but baring that rule 144 should apply.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
The reason I ask is this....

Before UCAD was US Canadian Minerals it was Barrington Foods.

BBX Equity funded Barrington Foods.

BBX Equity has a Michael King listed as a director.

Michael King runs Princeton Research website a stock touting operation.

He was also appointed to CMKM board in Nov 2002 along with Richard
Taulli

Richard Taulli is also listed as treasurer of UCAD.

John S Woodward is president of UCAD.

John S Woodward is also listed as president of Crystalix, though
'resigned'

Remember the Crystalix filing a few weeks back. They recieved $2
million funding from CMKXTREME

A recent press release from Crystalix has Mike King of Princeton
Research as a contact. The same J Michael King as before.

He also has Crystalix profiled on his website.

It gets more complicated the deeper I dig and I'm not liking some of
the things I'm finding.

Mike King is also listed as a director of CCO inc along with John E
Dolkart

Dolkart was lawyer that had a disbarment for misconduct September 1997

King and CCO was also charged with violation of National Futures
Association regulations in 1996.
Dolkart was his attorney then.

Dolkart also appears a spokesman for CMKX in this article
http://www.diamonds.net/news/newsitem.asp?num=7372&list=2

not good if BBX Equity's Micheal King is J Micheal King/Mike King (probably)

 


Posted by Stogie on :
 
That is if I was to unload my cmkx shares for the big party in Vegas...It would probably last me about ten minutes at the craps table..
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Also speculation... is John E Dolkart the same as our John E Dhonau?

I have a list of names that all seem to link if anyone wants to go thur them.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Does it really make a difference toc? If we haven't learned that this whole deal isn't a complicated snotty mess with people with questionable backgrounds, then we haven't been paying attention.
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
Also speculation... is John E Dolkart the same as our John E Dhonau?

I have a list of names that all seem to link if anyone wants to go thur them.



 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Unannounced. You never know with these guys. Could be a year+, or that just might be the money for shareholders to travel to Vegas by end of October. You'll have to wait to see.


Will...be careful. Some on this board might call you a pumper for that statment.


 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
maybe not. I'll let you know when I find the next company this lot are going to be shuffling money thru.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Hey WorkMan, I think you misunderstand me. When my team does bad, I boo, when my team does good, I cheer. Lately there has been a lot more to boo about as opposed to cheering.
I'm neither pumper or basher, I'm a realist with a skeptical approach to this bunch.

quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:
Will...be careful. Some on this board might call you a pumper for that statment.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Ok, here's one to ponder. Assuming we are a part of this split (still trying to find out for sure) from what I've turned up so far, it appears that our split shares will not be restricted. They only issued x amount of Rule 144 shares which should all be coded "restricted". They will remain restricted while our new split shares might not be. I'm still digging and will post what I find.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
tic-toc...there are about 15 companies with their hands in each others pants involving cmkx. its like in-breading, and the more you look the worse it gets. cmkx is a risk a few hundred bucks & watch the show stock.
========================================

Winsum....thats what i was thinking happened because the a/s was increased 2 days before the own by date and the split went up from 483 billion o/s to 779 billion o/s or 296 billion shares. if they did that they put 2,847,520 ucad shares in the treasury give or take a few. with the split they would have about 10 million shares or just under 30% of ucad. if they did this with gemm too they will have something to report as income. by itself cmkx has no income so why become a reporting company. i'm guessing but i don't think cmkx will say anything till after gemm dividend. might be why ucad put out a pr about the vegas party and no mention of cmkx. try to shut up this cmkx suprise by the end of oct.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, hurry up, I have to leave soon.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Ok, here's one to ponder. Assuming we are a part of this split (still trying to find out for sure) from what I've turned up so far, it appears that our split shares will not be restricted. They only issued x amount of Rule 144 shares which should all be coded "restricted". They will remain restricted while our new split shares might not be. I'm still digging and will post what I find.


 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Hey WorkMan, I think you misunderstand me. When my team does bad, I boo, when my team does good, I cheer. Lately there has been a lot more to boo about as opposed to cheering.
I'm neither pumper or basher, I'm a realist with a skeptical approach to this bunch.



I'm not a big fan of people who boo others. It's one thing to be dissappointed or disheartened (I'm an X Saint's fan), but it's another thing to belittle and make fun of others...especially when they are supposedly on your team.

I guess I'm just a bit old fashioned.

PS..Look for those core sample reports real soon.

 


Posted by will on :
 
Core samples??? They still around? Melvin said they'd be out months ago.

quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:

I'm not a big fan of people who boo others. It's one thing to be dissappointed or disheartened (I'm an X Saint's fan), but it's another thing to belittle and make fun of others...especially when they are supposedly on your team.

I guess I'm just a bit old fashioned.

PS..Look for those core sample reports real soon.



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
that makes sence UP. from my digging around over mm's covering a naked short with market bought ucad shares i found that restricted shares only come from ucad through the t/a. they are issued differant from unrestricted common shares. so if we do get the split they would have to issue some new restricted shares to cover our split restricted shares
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
Well, hurry up, I have to leave soon.

Patience son, patience. I am at work you know.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if those core samples had any value they would have never moved to a completely new site to drill more core samples. they would have stayed right where they were. truth is that they may have 1.9 million acres but only 200,000 acres might, JUST MIGHT have something worth mining. almost all will be real nice hunting grounds. shore gold has around 60,000 acres and are looking at only 1 mine
 
Posted by Teufelmann on :
 
What's up with all the 9,999,999 blocks going through????
 
Posted by glfpimp on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Teufelmann:
What's up with all the 9,999,999 blocks going through????


I don't think there is. I assume whatever you are looking at only shows up to 7 digits. All of those buys are actually 10,000,000. I may be wrong, but that is what I am seeing.

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Regarding the post split shares, there is just too much garbage to dig through to determine if we get them and if they'll be free trading so I sent an e-mail to investor relations asking if we will participate and if so, what the status of the shares will be. I'll post any reply I get.
 
Posted by JeffB1 on :
 
Me and the old lady sold our double wide to buy this stock. We loaded up our '74 Bronco and we is headed to the big party! We'll keep you posted on our travels.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JeffB1:
quote:
Me and the old lady sold our double wide to buy this stock. We loaded up our '74 Bronco and we is headed to the big party! We'll keep you posted on our travels.

That's a joke.....right?
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'd hope so upside......as for the split we will know in 10 days and since cmkx isn't involved we might even get a real answer..lol
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Bill, you think there's any chance they might let us up there with picks and shovels and let us see what we can find?? Might be quicker than waiting for core samples (LOL).
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
if those core samples had any value they would have never moved to a completely new site to drill more core samples. they would have stayed right where they were. truth is that they may have 1.9 million acres but only 200,000 acres might, JUST MIGHT have something worth mining. almost all will be real nice hunting grounds. shore gold has around 60,000 acres and are looking at only 1 mine


 


Posted by legal1082 on :
 
Hey guys, I saw this on another board. I hope it's not a repeat.

Ameritrade e-mail
Thank you for contacting us today concerning dividends of UCAD paid to CMKX shareholders.

Companies paying a stock dividend as a spin-off will generally pay fractional shares due in the form of a "cash in lieu" payment, or by rounding up and paying an additional share. Also, this is normally done within about 10 business days from the payable date of the spin-off.

However, it is entirely up to the company paying the spin-off how they handle the fractional share, if at all. They can choose to ignore fractions, they can pool all fractions due, and perform a lottery type giveaway of whole shares to eligible shareholders, they can round up or they can pay cash in lieu.

At this time, we have not received official information indicating how the company intends to address fractional shares due. If they choose to pay cash in lieu, lottery or an additional share, it will automatically be posted to your account. If they choose to ignore it, round down, or do not assign an additional whole share to you in the lottery, then nothing additional will be posted to your account.

You may wish to contact shareholder services at the company, or their transfer agent to inquire how they intend to address the fractional shares due in the spin-off.

The entry for cash in lieu will appear on your transaction history page similar to a dividend payment.

If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message.

Sincerely,

Jason Becker
Client Services, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i agree ed...i'm sure we could get a hundred or so up there. we could do a 50 - 50 split. 50% of what we find goes to cmkx & we get 50% to pay for our troubles
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
From another board..

Ed (GREEN BARON) just said in Dr D's PalTalk room that the Urban Casavant interview will take place today at 5PM (Vegas time).

He also stated the interview will be aired Monday morning (Oct. 18), pre-market, on the Green Baron site.

He also expects CMKX will PR this.

Green Barron & Evergreen are the same paid pumpers...
Evergreen Marketing, Inc. has received U.S. $2500 from PCS Edventures! (PCSV); we have received 250,000 shares of common stock from Cybertel (CYTP); we have received $2500 from a consultant of LJ International (JADE); in May of 2003 we received 5000 shares of common stock from a consultant of China Wireless Communications (CWLC) in January of 2004 we received $15,000; we have received $5,000 U.S. From a consultant of Office Managers, Inc (OFFM); we have received 200,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of International Sports and Media Group (ISME) Formerly San Diego Soccer Development (SDSD); we expect share compensation from a consultant of Warpradio.com (WRPR); we have received 50,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Pluristem Corp. (PLRS). We have received 4000 additional shares of Pluristem (PLRS) in May 2004 and we expect to receive another 5000 shares of PLRS in June 2004 for continued Green Baron updates and webcasts; we have received 85,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Gluv Corp. (GLVP); we received 2 million shares of V-Net Beverage, Inc. (VNTB) for public relations and promotion on The Green Baron and 2 million shares for designing, hosting, and launching a website in 2003. In 2004, we received an additional 3 million shares for ongoing consulting, website development, and webcast services; we received 2,000,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Tropical Beverage, Inc. (TPBV); we received 5,000 shares, and anticipate receiving an additional 5,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Alpine Air Express, Inc. ( ALPE); we have received 540,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of MISecurity Plus, Inc. (MSCU); we have been compensated 5,000 shares of common stock by Database solutions (DBSL); In April 2004 we received 15,000 shares of Caditec International (CDCI); we received 50,000 shares of common stock from The Dale Jarrett Racing Adventure (DJRT); We have received 17,000 shares of common stock from Nutri Pharmaceuticals Research, Inc. (NRIP); We received 15,000 shares of common stock and $1500 US from Consolidated Resources Group, Inc (CSRZ); We received $10,000 US from SE Global Equities Corp. (SEGB); We have received a total of 375,000 shares of American Scientific Resources (ASRO) from a consultant for webcast, promotion, and consulting services. We received 150,000 shares of common stock from a consultant of Portrush Petroleum, Inc. (PRRPF); We have received 25,000 shares of common stock from a Marketing Consultant for BP International, Inc. (BPIL), We received $5,000 US and approximately 57,000 shares of restricted common stock from Power2Ship, Inc (PWRI), We have received an initial payment of $5,000 US from a consultant of BonusAmerica, Inc. (BAWC); We will receive 500,000 shares of common stock during October, 2004 from a consultant of Tropical Beverage, Inc. (TPBV) as compensation for the distribution of this and other material. Since we are receiving compensation and may hold stock in the company there may be an inherent conflict of interest in our statements and opinions and such statements and opinions cannot be considered independent

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Posted by will on :
 
Why would CMKX PR Evergreen's compensation from other companies? Am I missing something?

Green Barron & Evergreen are the same paid pumpers...

Ok, but why a CMKX PR?

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[This message has been edited by will (edited October 13, 2004).]

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Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
" For the record, employees of our parent company Evergreen Marketing, Inc. have increased positions in CMKX stock once again over the past week. "
http://www.allstocks.com/html/front_running_stocks.html

[This message has been edited by Bob Frey (edited October 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
This is from another bb

the sec and the dtc will use fed calls to buy in illegal shorts for x days in a row, then they will let the stock "rest" for a day or two... (no forced buys at market)

then they do it again... and again etc...


i also believe cmkx is trading here due to roger and the sec and the dtc...

i believe illegal stock (held by hedge funds who shorted gobs of it to themselves in addition to the massive gobs they previously sold to us lowly retailers) is being forced to be returned to the market at their "cost" or less.

i believe uc is advertising cmkx (so blatently) for this reason... and i believe this has been going on for some time...

i also believe that these naked short hedgefunds have sold into the public float hundreds and hundreds of billions of shares that they cannot buy back at these prices... non of us selling... and that these shares will propel a short squeeze like none ever seen before...

but first things first... all illegal shares currently held by any naked short related hedgefund are being legally returned to the market at a minimum price...

some of these are likely being used to 'cover' other naked shorted shares and some are still being scooped up by cmkx'ers..

there is lots of "churning" going on to mask these trades but this is what i see anyway...

so my theory is feds take away all illegal long shares these stockgate scammers are holding (they had hoped to use gains on them to dump on a cmkx pps spike and then actually cover some of their real naked short position as cmkx fell back after such spikes...

i'll call it the "failed double short and now we have to cover on the moon theory"

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Sorry... here is the link to above post. http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1097690193

 
Posted by sarki316 on :
 
October 21st pencil it on your calander!!!!!!!


 


Posted by will on :
 
I'll bite. Just what is going to happen October 21st?

quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
October 21st pencil it on your calander!!!!!!!



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by sarki316:
quote:
October 21st pencil it on your calander!!!!!!!

It's already penciled in as "make fun of sarki day". Keep it up, we love it!
 


Posted by will on :
 
C'mon, man, I want to know what to expect that day, don't rile him. Now he's gonna waste a couple of posts calling us pigs and telling us we don't know crap. I want to know his crap.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by sarki316:
It's already penciled in as "make fun of sarki day". Keep it up, we love it!


 


Posted by sarki316 on :
 
Upside make fun of me all you want. I'll be in VEGAS smoking a cigar and having a good time with all the UCAD/CMKX shareholders. Whil you and WILL will be posting on the allstock message board. and I will be laughing at you. I know things my friend!!!!!!

I have nothing more to say to you. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
 


Posted by will on :
 
Thanks UpMan, now you made him upset. This guy is connected, I want to be his friend.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Sorry will, guess I kind of blew that one for you huh? Anyway that's the day that one of sarki's sources (he knows things) told him that CMKX will become a fully reporting company. Pencil it in.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Is that what he said? Did he really say they would be reporting by then? C'mon don't jag me, man. I really think this guy is connected.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Sorry will, guess I kind of blew that one for you huh? Anyway that's the day that one of sarki's sources (he knows things) told him that CMKX will become a fully reporting company. Pencil it in.

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Not jagging you. Fully reporting by next Thursday. Remember, he knows things!
 
Posted by atexan on :
 
How does becoming fully reporting help CMKX?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Don't bullcrap me, man. Show me where sarki said that. You can make fun of him all you want, but I got thinking about it. He made a ton of $ on SIRI, someone had to tip him that Howard Stern was moving there. I'm beginning to think he has sources, good sources, important people. Show me where he said that, and I'll buy a ton of this stuff.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Not jagging you. Fully reporting by next Thursday. Remember, he knows things!


 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Sorry will, guess I kind of blew that one for you huh? Anyway that's the day that one of sarki's sources (he knows things) told him that CMKX will become a fully reporting company. Pencil it in.

Up, Will...keep an open mind, remember Mel and the volcano.
 


Posted by will on :
 
I don't think Melvin was talking about a literal eruption of Mt. St Helen. LOL
If only 10% of all these rumors were true, and only 1% of the theories, I'd be happy. Correction, I'd be rich and happy.

quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
Up, Will...keep an open mind, remember Mel and the volcano.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
I'm beginning to think he has sources, good sources, important people. Show me where he said that, and I'll buy a ton of this stuff.

How much you gonna buy first? Gonna send me a copy of your filled buy order? Remember, he knows things!
 


Posted by kjs69 on :
 
On page 2 of this thread.

Sarki316 said:

Oct 11, 2004
CMKX WILL BE AT .10 A SHARE BY THE END IF OCTOBER!!!!!!!!

I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. JUCT GET READY TO CASH IN GUYS!!!!!!

Oct 11, 2004
PENCIL OCT 21ST ON YOUR CALANDER. THAT IS WHEN CMKX WILL BE FULLY REPORTING FROM MY SOURCES.

THAT IS WHEN IT WILL MAKE IT’S MOVE


quote:
Originally posted by will:
Don't bullcrap me, man. Show me where sarki said that. You can make fun of him all you want, but I got thinking about it. He made a ton of $ on SIRI, someone had to tip him that Howard Stern was moving there. I'm beginning to think he has sources, good sources, important people. Show me where he said that, and I'll buy a ton of this stuff.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Justthis1ce:
quote:
Up, Will...keep an open mind, remember Mel and the volcano.

Justthis1ce,
There's really only one small problem with sarki's statement and that's that it is impossible. They cannot be a reporting company by the 21st, not possible.


 


Posted by kjs69 on :
 
If this stock hits 0.10 I'll be extremely happy. I'll have everything paid off. I can't wait to see if it happens or not.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Don't quit your job while your waiting.

quote:
Originally posted by kjs69:
If this stock hits 0.10 I'll be extremely happy. I'll have everything paid off. I can't wait to see if it happens or not.


 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
I will be verry happy with 0.01
I will be happy with 0.001

quote:
Originally posted by kjs69:
If this stock hits 0.10 I'll be extremely happy. I'll have everything paid off. I can't wait to see if it happens or not.


 


Posted by will on :
 
LOL! Thanks ksj, but I wasn't serious. This guy is bonfide nut. He keeps predicting outragious prices and happeneings for compnaies that couldn't possible achieve them.
I'm just kinda jealous I'm not connected like him. Maybe if I'm a good boy he'll pay for my ticket to Vegas, so I can hold his ashtray for that big stogie he'll be smoking.

quote:
Originally posted by kjs69:
On page 2 of this thread.

Sarki316 said:

Oct 11, 2004
CMKX WILL BE AT .10 A SHARE BY THE END IF OCTOBER!!!!!!!!

I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. JUCT GET READY TO CASH IN GUYS!!!!!!

Oct 11, 2004
PENCIL OCT 21ST ON YOUR CALANDER. THAT IS WHEN CMKX WILL BE FULLY REPORTING FROM MY SOURCES.

THAT IS WHEN IT WILL MAKE IT’S MOVE




 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Got my reply from UCAD! Below is the e-mail I sent to Christina, the I.R. contact:

Dear Christina,
I noticed that US Canadian will be forward splitting their common stock
on a 3 for 1 basis in the near future. I am a shareholder of Rule 144
restricted shares from the CMKX dividend and was wondering if these
shares would participate in the split as well? If so, will the new
shares also be restricted or will they be free trading after the split?
Thank you for your time.

Below is her reply:

Yes and they will be restricted.


I guess that's the old good news and bad news answer.

 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, half a loaf is better than none, even if it will have a little mold on it.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Got my reply from UCAD! Below is the e-mail I sent to Christina, the I.R. contact:

Dear Christina,
I noticed that US Canadian will be forward splitting their common stock
on a 3 for 1 basis in the near future. I am a shareholder of Rule 144
restricted shares from the CMKX dividend and was wondering if these
shares would participate in the split as well? If so, will the new
shares also be restricted or will they be free trading after the split?
Thank you for your time.

Below is her reply:

Yes and they will be restricted.


I guess that's the old good news and bad news answer.



 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
what do you reckon? lesson to be learnt?
 
Posted by will on :
 
I don't understand what you're asking, toc ???
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
what do you reckon? lesson to be learnt?


 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
lol sorry i'm getting cryptic. wait til morrow
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
this is scam on such a level that if you play it right we can all benefit. just play it right.
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
lol sorry football pubs and message boards dont mix. retired.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
how come i always miss sarki and his crystal ball or crystal something. i'm guessing the 21st is the day they let him out and good for him. we do need more of sarki in here. no wild theories just extreme profit forecasts...lol
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ya gotta love these naked short theories. now instead of the squeeze causing a price spike it's caused a pps drop, cool. the fact that we haven't heard of anyone not getting ucad shares doesn't cause them to bat an eye. the sky is blue, grass is green & cmkx theories come out once a day...lol
 
Posted by will on :
 
This thead sure does get its share of "way out theres". At least he doesn't put together long complicated, convoluted, confusing theories.

That begin like this:

"i also believe cmkx is trading here due to roger and the sec and the dtc..."

and end like this:

"i'll call it the "failed double short and now we have to cover on the moon theory"

He takes a shortcut to nosenseville. This other guy has a cover up CMKX, Roger, DTC, SEC, conspiracy going on, and the cherry on the top is double short cover. I understand sarki, (don't agree), just understand his prediction, this other guy, what did he say? LOL
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I have not recieved all of my shares yet etrade sent me an email stating they made an error with the calculation
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
my account as of today shows my restriced shares of US Canadian

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
ya gotta love these naked short theories. now instead of the squeeze causing a price spike it's caused a pps drop, cool. the fact that we haven't heard of anyone not getting ucad shares doesn't cause them to bat an eye. the sky is blue, grass is green & cmkx theories come out once a day...lol


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I have not recieved all of my shares ucad yet short about 20 etrade sent me an email stating they made an error with the calculation oh yeah and for a scam company to issue 16 dollars a share stock sounds kind of strange unless they did the scam on ucad and we just happened to bennefit. if that is the case let the scam continue
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
wait and see what it is worth once the restriction is lifted if it is lifted

quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
I have not recieved all of my shares ucad yet short about 20 etrade sent me an email stating they made an error with the calculation oh yeah and for a scam company to issue 16 dollars a share stock sounds kind of strange unless they did the scam on ucad and we just happened to bennefit. if that is the case let the scam continue


 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Help, I need delayed level IIs - anybody got good links, the one I have firewall is blocking.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Well I dont mean to offend but I thought sarki was a hot asian lady. sorry they need to have a profile thing in here. I will say one thing. He might just be right oct 19 - 21 might need to mark it on my calander after all. Just a feeling of course. lets see what transpires. Its either going to be something that is going to royaly piz everyone off or its something that is going to make us smile. I feel news comming. just my opinion only.
 
Posted by will on :
 
...........and you base this opinion on your feelings?

quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
Well I dont mean to offend but I thought sarki was a hot asian lady. sorry they need to have a profile thing in here. I will say one thing. He might just be right oct 19 - 21 might need to mark it on my calander after all. Just a feeling of course. lets see what transpires. Its either going to be something that is going to royaly piz everyone off or its something that is going to make us smile. I feel news comming. just my opinion only.


 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
to whoever asked
you see these 9.999.999 trades because the system doesn`t go up to 10.mill
i`m sill wondering why they are not 9.mill
and who is trading them.there has always been huge lot`s of them onetime time like 40 in in like 20 min. or so if i remember correctly.

and if sarki is a hot asian lady and this thing goes to 0.10 on the 21st i would like
to meet her in vegas ,even if she smokes cigars.

o.k. jokes asides
are we getting a forward split on ucad

or to i add to the rumours .it has allready been previously considered
and the outstanding shares in cmkx would actually be 1/3 of the previous calculation

on the other hand there was that rumour,
from one of the big guys last week saying that the amount of our ucad dividends could still change.

was the ucad split that obvious to predict?


 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
Where are all the doubters that insisted that the UCAD dividend would never be seen?

I seem to remember that there were quite a few people that made jokes about getting the dividend at all. Oh sure, now they say they are restricted, so what did we actually get? But that was not the comments stated here. There were some that laughed at the dividend even being paid at all. Where are you guys?

EVERYTHING stated by this company has come to pass. Time frames change, but that's how things work. NOW, we get a forward split on the UCAD dividend. Seems to me that a forward split is a good thing for a stock...right? Why is UCAD rising? Why? There's something out of the ordinary happening here. It's all good. It's not on your timeframe, but it's good.

It's getting real hard to doubt this stock as the days go on. Yeah, maybe it's taking a little longer than short sellers would like, but the confidence level is rising.

I look at both sides of the story. I think there has been some quality questions concerning this stock. There's been some quality positive estimates, also.

This board has developed into a "Let's find out who's a joke" board. Most make fun of guestimates, make fun of theroies and make fun of physical appearances of others. Some make fun of anything concerning CMKX and spend countless hours trying to discredit this company. I'm finding that even here, there is a sense of belief that yes, maybe this might be something. Oh, I know, some of you won't admit it, but most of you deep down think that maybe it could be something exciting.

I visit this board to bring me back down to earth since I tend to dream a little much. The problem is, there's been nothing stated here that makes me doubt this stock. Kind of dissappointing. Come on guys, you can do better than this. I think you are mostly being converted.

It's a sad day for allstocks....
 


Posted by will on :
 
Workaholic wrote:

"EVERYTHING stated by this company has come to pass."

Which company are you refering to, CMKX or UCAD. Seems you're mixing apples and oranges.

When it was rumored a forward split, yes I doubted it. When they PR'd, and gave it more credence I was happy to see it.

UCAD seems to be much more forthright and forthcoming in their reporting. Unfortuantely, I purchased CMKX who stand to learn a few things from UCAD's forthrightness and keeping its word to shareholders.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
CMKX kinda reminds me of that movie Gremlins and somebody just spilled the water on Gizzmo.HA HA HA
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Okay..Where is Glassman and Wallace? Did they leave CMKX thread? If they left,

Is it because they think CMKX is dead and its not going back up to 0003+? or

Is it because they think CMKX already did better than what they've preaching? Because CMKXers got UCAD divys and UCAD is doing better..

 


Posted by will on :
 
What the hell does that mean? You're speaking Bulgarian again, child.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
CMKX kinda reminds me of that movie Gremlins and somebody just spilled the water on Gizzmo.HA HA HA


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I think Gizzmo was from Chinatown.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Answer question to me. Yes just on a feeling. as for the gremlins I understand that funny statement. Member what happened when you poored water on a gremlin they multipied. There are so many CMKX shares that someone must have doused water. or with water you get diluted. Funny water dilutes --- Gremlins multiply with water---
authorizing lots and lots of shares makes it diluted!!! both can be dangerous and wreck havoc on your investment/ house money ect ect.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Go to bed, child. You need rest, my friend.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
I think Gizzmo was from Chinatown.


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Yep, the bashers were wrong about the divvy.


As far as CMKX not keeping their word, there are some theories and some things Uncle Melvie said that did not come to pass.

I think the theories were non company people and Melvin was just trying too hard.

All the pr's seem to have come true pretty close to what was said.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Ok, can we consider this situation.

Rememeber Melvin and his Mt. St, Helens prediction. "this is big folks, I mean real big", going on and on. Then CMKX Pr'd that the samples had diamondferus present, independent lab and all, blah blah blah... Then UCAD and other jv partners were halted on the Canadian exchanges until there was a fair playing field. Did we find out about the REAL diamond content in those samples form CMKX or was it forced through the Canadian exchange in an effort to make the jv's be forthright about exacly what was found? What was found? Two micro diamonds.

How about the increase in A/S? How did we come to know about that? Through forthright reporting from CMKX? No it was through the efforts of someone calling the Nevada Secretary of State.

I just don't see them being forthright and out in front with their reporting.

You say all the PR's have pretty much come through. Well, if you consider how ambiguous and incomplete they are I guess you could be right. The one saying diamondferus was present, I guess is/was true, but it was so open ended that sure it could be true, and it also gives them a high degree of deniability. It's like telling someone you are having an exceptional day, but you forget to mention it is exceptionally crappy.

Look, I'm not bashing this thing. I'm just asking that they be more forthright, forthcoming, complete with their PR's. Yes, I liked getting the UCAD dividend, I like the F/S. I sure would like to see the goods and know the truth regarding CMKX.

Where are the results of the second set of core samples?
O/S had to be calculated from the UCAD dividend. (and are still not believed to be 780B by some}
Where are they in the process of becoming a reporting company.

I understand you can't answer those questions, but would you not think CMKX could and should?

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Yep, the bashers were wrong about the divvy.


As far as CMKX not keeping their word, there are some theories and some things Uncle Melvie said that did not come to pass.

I think the theories were non company people and Melvin was just trying too hard.

All the pr's seem to have come true pretty close to what was said.



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
They should give info as best for the company. Being dishonest usually hurts companies in the long run.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Have they been forthright and honest in your estimation?
The theories you mentioned that might not have happened I won't even ask which ones have, because the best I can see very few if any have.

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
They should give info as best for the company. Being dishonest usually hurts companies in the long run.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
All the pr's seem to have come true pretty close to what was said.

Well, starting with their diamondiferous p/r of the Carolyn pipe, I guess you could say that was "accurate" but everyone here knows it was at minimum a bending of the truth.

Next was a transfer agent switch and a full accounting and disclosure of the companys share count. They were with Global then and are with Global now and we don't know the structure so I'd have to question that one.

Then they announced that they and their partners had a airborne survey done with startling results. The results of that survey are shown on CMKX handouts but none of the partners have mentioned or are publishing those results.

Then there was a whole bunch of claims purchases by outsiders with us receiving the dividends. So far they have paid one late with more pending. I'll concede that point to you.

My point is, this company has nothing more than a deceitful at best history behind it. Maybe a leopard can change his spots but I don't think this one has. CMKX has not filed to become a reporting company yet. Those documents are public record and there are none to be found on the SEC website. Registration is a lengthy process, with no filings to date I'd speculate they are at best a full year or more away from achieving it. Then there's Roger Glenn. People say that there is no way he'd get involved with CMKX if it wasn't on the up and up. He absolutely would, in fact he'd jump at the chance. He and his firm don't solicit individuals cases, they are after corporate accounts. If he can clean up a mess like this imagine what it could do for their corporate resume. Any firm in trouble would know where to look. Sorry for the ramble here but so many people are postulating so many different things here when the truth, in my opinion, is so obvious.


 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
let`s not forget the market is a battleground.
don`t expect every p.r. to be staightforward
when even positive p.r.s sometimes don`t
do anything for the pps
and the best plays are the most unpredictable ones!
but they have to have some fundamentals that you believe in.
let`s put it this way
we have dividends ,of course restricted
1.we have huge amounts of mining rights
with huge prospects of finding something.
2.we have a huge amount of outstanding shares.

these two are the current value of the pps
actually that would be 16 mill.
if i`m not mistaken
and how much are they paying out in dividends
something is wrong with this picture
could somebody help me!!!!


what would happen if one of the two basic
valuations would change or both as a matter of fact both
o/s and value!
and what about the companies they are involved with.
it`s not like a single company that could be scam.
there is ucad and there are other companies.
and again roger glenn is not specialized in bankruptcies.


and cmkx is not trading at lofty levels and on no volume!
right!

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well we do know that the ucad dividend was split up into 779 billion shares thus the o/s is the same as the split would be differant if it was for the 800 billion a/s but i will give those that think the o/s or float is less. the more i think about it why wouldn't UC want to keep part of ucad in cmkx, why give the whole thing to us shareholders. ucad is becoming at strong company and cmkx could use something positive on it's books. as the a/s was increased so fast before the own by date and once the dividend was paid to those shares they could be retired and thus the true float not be 779 billion but back to the 483 billion before the a/s increase. as for cmkx's prs...i dont think the word forthright & the phrase completely honest should be used in the same post as cmkx. plus nif they were "completely honest" we wouldn't have as much to guess about and all the entertainment value of cmkx would be gone & of course we know thats why we bought cmkx shares in the first place
 
Posted by Altiman on :
 
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CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKX)

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So is this property worth anything? If you don’t accept the opinion, stock and cash of companies like U.S. Canadian Minerals and St. George Minerals, perhaps a neighbor holding claims on property in the Fort a la Corne area might help with that question. An article that appeared in the Melfort Journal on Monday, October 12, written by Colin McGarrigle, reports that project executives for the Kensington/De Beers Diamond Project in the Fort a la Corne area recently stated nothing but optimism for further exploration of diamonds in the region. In the article, president of Kensington Resources Robert McCallum stated, “If everything goes as well as we hope, this could be the largest, low-cost, long-life diamond site in the world.” We urge our members to read the entire article by clicking http://www.melfortjournal.com/story.php?id=121486.

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At lease two partners of Evergreen Marketing, parent company of The Green Baron Report, will be attending the Las Vegas shareholder appreciation event being held October 29-31. We look forward to meeting many of our members, and we are predicting the event will be very festive. In case you have not figured it out by now, we still believe CMKX is The Stock Play of a Lifetime.

Final note: Our policy is to not acknowledge specific individuals that post on the message boards. We have never specifically supported any post by the multitude of members on these chat forums. However, we will do this once. An extremely respected, well-liked Green Baron and Raging Bull member who regularly posted positive remarks about CMKX under the alias cash_flow4me named Ty Merrick was tragically killed in an auto accident earlier this week. In fact, our CEO Ed Miller, had the pleasure of meeting him at the recently held NHRA Dallas event. Our prayers and best wishes go to his wife and 2 year-old son.

In honor of Ty, we are providing a link that will take you to cash_flow’s last post. It strangely sums up how we believe shareholders should view CMKX, and we could not agree more with what we believe are prophetic words. Please click this link to read: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=95060. Finally, for those who would like to send his family good wishes and support, please go to http://www.memorialsonline.com.


 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
I did find something to clarify the CMKX's claims.
http://www.ir.gov.sk.ca/Default.aspx?DN=3572,3385,2936,Documents

if you download the excell document it has a list of all the mineral claims and who they are held by.

Note 101012190 SASK. LTD.
http://tinyurl.com/4get3

CMKM aquired mineral claims from 101012190 SASK. LTD. in Jan 2003

Cant find any of the other listed tho.

Nevada minerals is listed.

quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
check this out - http://www.diamondplay.com/s/Region-Saskatchewan.asp
CMKM is NOT listed.


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
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Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
I did find something to clarify the CMKX's claims.
http://www.ir.gov.sk.ca/Default.aspx?DN=3572,3385,2936,Documents

if you download the excell document it has a list of all the mineral claims and who they are held by.

Note 101012190 SASK. LTD.
http://tinyurl.com/4get3

CMKM aquired mineral claims from 101012190 SASK. LTD. in Jan 2003

Cant find any of the other listed tho.

Nevada minerals is listed.


Nice find tic_toc. Wish we were called "Buckshot" instead of CMKX.


 


Posted by safeguard on :
 
Here is an interesting link...
http://www.thediamondhunter.com/front
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
net-sec,
Don't give up on "Buckshot" just yet. Take a look at this:

On November 25, 2002 the Company agreed to acquire the Casavant Family Mineral Claims in certain kimberlite deposits located in the Province of Saskatchewan, Canada. The Mineral Claims were held in the name of five companies owned directly and/or beneficially by the Casavant Family and Morgain Minerals, Inc. (a company held by third parties with the claims under option). These companies include Commando Holdings, Ltd., Buckshot Holdings, Ltd., 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd., 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd., and 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. In addition, Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. acted as the claims and exploration manager for the five companies above, as well as, the claims held by Morgain Minerals, Inc. Each of these companies have agreed to transfer 100% of the Mineral Claims to the Company in accordance with the Mineral Disposition Regulations of Saskatchewan, 1986.

This is copied from CMKX's registration statement back when Urban first took over. Where it says "the Company agreed to acquire the Casavant Family Mineral Claims" they are referring to CMKX buying these claims from Urban. Supposedly any claims that Urban held under the name Buckshot were transferred to CMKX. Don't know why they still list them under the Buckshot name unless it's a different company or different claims held by Urban separate from CMKX.


 


Posted by netsec on :
 
********************
Don't know why they still list them under the Buckshot name unless it's a different company or different claims held by Urban separate from CMKX.
********************

Yea Upside I read through it and your last statement is what has me a little worried. What if it is different claims help by Urban not included in CMKX...and those are the damn claims that actually produce diamonds. Wouldn't that be a kick in the ass.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
That's what's always bothered me about our supposed claims. We don't appear on this listing at all. At least two of Urbans former companies do but no CMKX anywhere. Makes you wonder if his claims were ever transferred to the company or not.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
*zzzzzzzzz - stretch - its quiet in here
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
all the cmkx buddies are seeing red today except for shane & kpg
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Sorry bill - dont get it...
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
From another board
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040728/law106_1.html

 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
gemm, ucad, sggm & uca are all down today. gemm was .19 two days ago at .09 now
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Ahhh - gotcha. I have almost made the decision to throw some money at UCA.v and Sggm - just a little trigger shy. Being new to all of this, still learning and so far have not had a whole lot of luck - NT, TSBI to name a few.....looking at USCI though for kicks -

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
gemm, ucad, sggm & uca are all down today. gemm was .19 two days ago at .09 now


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i dont have any cash to play with but i'd hold up on anything with cmkx buddies for a day or so. gemm, ecpn are part of ucad and will be hurt by the forward split for a few days. ameritrade isn't adding uca-v to my streamer so i'm wondering if they will allow me to buy if i could
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if i was you and i'm not saying its a lock but i'd watch in the morning for any posts by dardadog. i've been watching him for a few months and if you act quick he does hit a good percent of the time. i owe the IRS $38,000 and if i dont make enough to pay it off before ameritrade sends out 1099's in Jan. they will close my account. so i'm just holding everything hoping 1 will hit it big by the first of the year
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Thanks for the tip - has he been watching the the CMKX family?

* I presume that you are not on the IRS's Christmas Card's list then are you *

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
if i was you and i'm not saying its a lock but i'd watch in the morning for any posts by dardadog. i've been watching him for a few months and if you act quick he does hit a good percent of the time. i owe the IRS $38,000 and if i dont make enough to pay it off before ameritrade sends out 1099's in Jan. they will close my account. so i'm just holding everything hoping 1 will hit it big by the first of the year

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Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
Ask your accountant but the best part of paying more taxes than the year before is no penalty if you pay by 4/15.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
no, dog daytrades only from what i can tell. if he owned cmkx it would be a few million only for a just it case it hit thing...lol. which i might add is why most in here own it...lol. it sure isn't because the company is doing things the right way.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Dog post ona particular board? or secruity board?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
thanks bob...my trouble is i'm contract labor so to speak. i work on a 1099 only and 4 yrs ago lost most of my deductions, had to sell rental property that was in detroit because of the renters, couldn't get ones that paid...lol, son turned 18, left too much to cover at the end of the yr and once it heads the wrong way its hard to stop. this yr i should stop the bleeding and can then start mopping up the mess
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
right here at allstocks
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'd just watch for a while. not make any buys till you can get a feel for him. he posts a lot of differant things on days he is trading and not all are good but once you see how he does things it can help. he uses a certain program which i can't remember the name of. it has real time L2's and more costs $99 per month is all i remember. i know he watchs the prs closely and then the trading trend of each company with good news at least thats my take on him. he will take 10% a trade any time i think
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Thanks for the heads up -
 
Posted by Binky on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Upside:
[B]net-sec,
Don't give up on "Buckshot" just yet. Take a look at this:

On November 25, 2002 the Company agreed to acquire the Casavant Family Mineral Claims in certain kimberlite deposits located in the Province of Saskatchewan, Canada. The Mineral Claims were held in the name of five companies owned directly and/or beneficially by the Casavant Family and Morgain Minerals, Inc. (a company held by third parties with the claims under option). These companies include Commando Holdings, Ltd., Buckshot Holdings, Ltd., 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd., 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd., and 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. In addition, Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. acted as the claims and exploration manager for the five companies above, as well as, the claims held by Morgain Minerals, Inc. Each of these companies have agreed to transfer 100% of the Mineral Claims to the Company in accordance with the Mineral Disposition Regulations of Saskatchewan, 1986.
============================================

Here is some emails that were sent earlier this year on another board to try and clear up questions about Morgain Minerals.

From: Rod Doran
To: Ron Patzer
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: info inquiry (edited)

I am the President and CEO of Morgain Minerals Inc. - we hold the referred to claims in Saskatchewan.
Rod Doran

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Patzer
To: Rod Doran
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: info inquiry

OK- now what is your connection to CMKM and Urban Casavant. Do you have an agreement to turn over 100% your interest in your claims to CMKM? You will notice at the end of paragraph 1 that he states 100% of the claims will be turned over to CMKM. Have you turned over any of your claims to CMKM? Do you know Mr. Casavant? TIA

Answer:

I have contacted our Chairman Ray Mongeau who is familiar with the Saskatchewan claims. He will contact you to discuss your questions.
Rod Doran

By: arete
06 Feb 2004, 12:35 PM EST
Msg. 62937 of 518692
Jump to msg. #
I just spoke with Ray Mongeau of Morgain Minerals and he said that MM and UC, he knows him and has seen him, had a discussion 2 years ago but has never heard back from him to finalize any deal. He said they definitely didn't have any deal including any option arrangement for MM claims. The original talks called for UC to buy MM claims for $120,000. So those claims from MM are not apart of UCs collection.

Info as of Feb.04
GLTA
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Well, that's mighty encouraging.

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Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Ahhh - gotcha. I have almost made the decision to throw some money at UCA.v and Sggm - just a little trigger shy. Being new to all of this, still learning and so far have not had a whole lot of luck - NT, TSBI to name a few.....looking at USCI though for kicks -


You bought Nortel?? I saw those *******s when they were .75$, we both should of bought then...would have but I didn't have a trading account open at the time.
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Ameritrade has it under UCRUF.Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i dont have any cash to play with but i'd hold up on anything with cmkx buddies for a day or so. gemm, ecpn are part of ucad and will be hurt by the forward split for a few days. ameritrade isn't adding uca-v to my streamer so i'm wondering if they will allow me to buy if i could


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
In at $4.17

quote:
Originally posted by netsec:
You bought Nortel?? I saw those *******s when they were .75$, we both should of bought then...would have but I didn't have a trading account open at the time.


 


Posted by will on :
 
If you are going to follow dog you should cummincate with him via email. Dog is a daytrader. I strongly advise you to understand what and how he does things. He might be in and out of stock in an hour or less. He does a great job, but you better understand his stradegy and style before you jump on with him. Just ask him he will be glad to help you out, his nick here is: dardadog.
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Thanks for the heads up -


 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
This company set to bash UCAD:
http://www.yp.com/stocklemonade.html
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by rde3:
quote:
This company set to bash UCAD: http://www.yp.com/stocklemonade.html[/quote]

I don't see anything on their site to indicate that, what do you know?

 


Posted by Prdponce on :
 
Some one else is busy finding diamonds. All CMKX has to do is drill and test.

No bashing here. I am holding a few shares.


2004-10-14 16:10:15


New Diamond-Bearing Dyke


***

> VANCOUVER, British Columbia, Oct. 14, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- Management is pleased to announce the results of caustic fusion analyses from 19 surface samples of various kimberlite and lamprophyre dykes on the Diamond Discoveries (OTCBB MDD) Torngat Mountains project in north eastern Quebec. The caustic fusion analyses were done by Saskatchewan Research Council in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Sample sizes ranged from 5.1 kg (11.4 lbs) to 72.95 kg (163.4 lbs). One sample, No. 90943 from the K-25 dyke in the southwest corner of the property produced one microdiamond weighing 0.026 milligrams. The diamond size was 0.38 mm long by 0.30 mm wide by 0.1 mm high. The diamond was clear and colourless. The sample size was 21.50 kg (48.16 lbs). This is the fourth dyke that has been found to contain macro diamonds or microdiamonds. The K-25 dyke which is three to five metres wide has been traced on surface for over five kilometers. The K-25 dyke is 10 kilometers south-west and on strike with the K-9 dyke which crosses the Round Lake Pipe. This is the fourth separate dyke in which macrodiamonds or microdiamonds have been found. The other dykes which contain diamonds are the A-dyke, B-dyke and F-dyke. The 2004 fall drilling season has been completed and the core samples have been sent to Saskatchewan Research Council for caustic fusion analysis. The drill has been left on site so that the company can get an early spring start to drilling the more than 35 targets defined by surface exploration. ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD "John Kowalchuk"_____________ John Kowalchuk P.Geo., President & CEO About Diamond Discoveries International Corp. Diamond Discoveries International Corp (OTCBB MDD) is an US exploration company with executive offices in Vancouver, B.C. DMDD's wholly owned subsidiary Diamond Discoveries (Canada) Inc. controls certain mineral permits in the Torngat Mountains Peninsula, north-eastern Quebec. The Company is focused on exploring for diamonds. The Company has located more than 50 kimberlite dykes and several kimberlite pipes. Next spring, they plan on actively sampling the targeted areas for diamonds both by bulk sampling and core drilling. www.diamonddiscoveries.com Forward-Looking Statement This news release contains discussion of items that may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of securities laws that involve risks and uncertainties. Although the company believes the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, the Company can give no assurances that their expectations will be achieved. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations include the effects of general economic conditions, actions by government authorities, uncertainties associated with contract negotiations, additional financing requirements, market acceptance of the Company's products and competitive pressures. These factors and others are more fully discussed in Company filings with U.S. securities regulatory authorities. CONTACT: Diamond Discoveries John Kowalchuk B.Sc. P.Geo., CEO jkowalchuk@diamonddiscoveries.com (604) 683-1368 (866) 400-1368, T.F. (604) 685-6905, Fax
 


Posted by Prdponce on :
 
Double posting

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Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Guess UC has the wrong land.....now wouldnt it be nice to get a report like this from CMKX, even if they didnt find anything????

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Posted by Upside on :
 
Sure would, don't hold your breath though.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
"New Diamond-Bearing Dyke"?

Didn't you mean to post that over on the QBID thread?

(Plus, it's great how "OTCBB (colon) DMDD" ends up with a grin)
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
quote:
"New Diamond-Bearing Dyke"?
Didn't you mean to post that over on the QBID thread?

Now that's funny!!!


 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
October 15, 2004 05:30 AM US Central Timezone

U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. Announces Ecuadorian Concession, Green Baron Webcast and Further Information on Forward Split

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 15, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTCBB:UCAD) announced today that it has acquired a concession for the mining of gold in Ecuador. Said concession has been granted to the Company's subsidiary, Yellow River Mining, S.A.

U.S. Canadian Minerals' CEO Rendal Williams was interviewed for a CEO Webcast addressing shareholders and the investment community on the current and future prospects of the Company. The webcast will be conducted by Evergreen Marketing, Inc. and made available to the general public on The Green Baron Investors Society's website at www.*************.com beginning Monday, October 18, 2004.

The Company's earlier announced 3 for 1 forward split is expected to be effective October 25, 2004. All shareholders of record as of that date will participate in the split.

Further details relative to this transaction can be found at http://www.uscanadian.net/.
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
St. George Metals, Inc. Information for Shareholders
Business Wire - October 15, 2004 09:30

VEGREVILLE, Alberta, Oct 15, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Mark Giebelhaus, President of St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) is pleased to announce the company has a web page under construction at www.stgeorgemetalsinc.com.

The Company has retained the services of Barry D. Rayment, Ph.D. who has many years global mining experience and has worked for BP Exploration and other major mining companies. No work has been given to Mr. Rayment yet but his services have been retained to examine any claims the Company considers. There is no guarantee that any fruitful claims will be forthcoming.

The Company is considering exploration in Northern Arizona this month. No contracts have been entered into at this time.

The Company has ongoing negations with CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) as previously reported.

The Company is currently selecting a new Board of Directors, and a Board of Advisors from senior qualified individuals with academic, professional and practical qualifications. No appointments have been made as of today's date.

More information will be released on all these areas this month.

There is no guarantee that the location and securing of mineral claims and or exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Any ideas about what might be going on today. Very heavy volumn and I made numerous attempts to buy at .0002. All were rejected. Had my broker place the order for me and still has not filled. He said MMs are rejecting 1 to 3 million dollar orders. I was trying for 2 million.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
sggm...cmkx's little brother?? no info, no work or income but we are looking...lol and the pps is at .40 & climbing with very little volume. sounds like a shell in the making
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
might not be enough gap to make money on it DW. last night on the q thread a good artical about mm manipulation pg 15 i think
 
Posted by Pappy on :
 
hey all. any one have Level 2 im wondering if i can get a by at .0001?
 
Posted by Pappy on :
 
has anyone made buys at .0001 today?

 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
This is part of latest Dr.D's post..

----------------------------------------
A phone call to your brokerage firms and inquiring about the UCAD shares being truly delivered into your account could yield some interesting information. They will say they have been posted to your account, but as I have found out if you try to withdraw them in certificate form it is denied because the true certificates have not been delivered by the DTC to the brokerage firms Street Name. Meaning, they have no restricted UCAD shares to send us at this time. Speak to the reorganization Department at your broker and ask them specifically about the time frame for the UCAD delivery so you can withdraw your UCAD certificates, whether you intend to or not.
------------------------------------------

Bill,
Whats your take on this? I am asking you because I read you posting 'they can't cover with the shares bought in open market'. What if the MMs work with the broker to show phantom shares in our account? Thx.
 


Posted by valves on :
 
CMKM Diamonds Inc. CEO Interview with Green Barron for Webcast
10/15/2004 1:19:00 PM








LAS VEGAS, Oct 15, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) CEO Urban Casavant was interviewed for a CEO Webcast addressing shareholders and the investment community on the current and future prospects of the company. The webcast will be conducted by Evergreen Marketing Inc. and made available to the general public on The Green Baron Investors Society's Web site at www.*************.com beginning Monday, Oct. 18, 2004.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds Inc.

CMKM Diamonds Inc.
Diamonds Hotline:
Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755
Fax: 306-752-3754


Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved.


 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
I am thinking out loud here.....
All this heavy volume the last couple of days, I wonder how much Evergreen Marketing Inc. is buying (UC Interviewers)???
Why put out a PR stating "Interview to be heard on this date?? Is there some real juice in this interview no one should miss??
Last but not least, Is this the last day to buy at .0002??
Why would anyone sell at .0002 this close to the end of October??

Interesting days to come...........

 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
A brokerage is now reporting an adjusted UCAD Divvy reflecting an OS of 390 billion.


How bout that.
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Do you happen to have any further details or source? Please provide if possible

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
A brokerage is now reporting an adjusted UCAD Divvy reflecting an OS of 390 billion.


How bout that.



 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
390B means UCAD divy should be doubled. Any furher info on this?

P.S: Just read on other board that the broker is Trading Direct. Several people stated their UCAD divy shares doubled. ? ! ?


quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
A brokerage is now reporting an adjusted UCAD Divvy reflecting an OS of 390 billion.


How bout that.


[This message has been edited by TruthTeller (edited October 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Raider:
I got this from first alert but can't get to the detail. Sure the correction is regarding the UCAD dividend?

10/15/04 2:10:00 PM
CORRECTING and REPLACING St. George Metals, Inc. Information for Shareholders


quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
A brokerage is now reporting an adjusted UCAD Divvy reflecting an OS of 390 billion.


How bout that.



 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Raider:
I got this from first alert but can't get to the detail. Sure the correction is regarding the UCAD dividend?

10/15/04 2:10:00 PM
CORRECTING and REPLACING St. George Metals, Inc. Information for Shareholders



It's nothing, really. I didn''t even post it when it came across my streamer. Actually, I can't even see what they replaced.

Cmkm Diamond Inc     (OTHER OTC: CMKX)
Last Update: 2:10:00 PM ET Oct 15, 2004  

 

CORRECTING and REPLACING St. George Metals, Inc. Information for Shareholders


VEGREVILLE, Alberta, Oct 15, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- In BW5155 issued Oct. 15, 2004: Fourth graph, first sentence of release should read: The Company has ongoing negotiations with CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) as previously reported. (sted The Company has ongoing negations with CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) as previously reported.)

The corrected release reads: ST. GEORGE METALS, INC. INFORMATION FOR SHAREHOLDERS

Mark Giebelhaus, President of St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) is pleased to announce the company has a web page under construction at www.stgeorgemetalsinc.com.

The Company has retained the services of Barry D. Rayment, Ph.D. who has many years global mining experience and has worked for BP Exploration and other major mining companies. No work has been given to Mr. Rayment yet but his services have been retained to examine any claims the Company considers. There is no guarantee that any fruitful claims will be forthcoming.

The Company is considering exploration in Northern Arizona this month. No contracts have been entered into at this time.

The Company has ongoing negotiations with CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) as previously reported.

The Company is currently selecting a new Board of Directors, and a Board of Advisors from senior qualified individuals with academic, professional and practical qualifications. No appointments have been made as of today's date.

More information will be released on all these areas this month.

There is no guarantee that the location and securing of mineral claims and or exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

[This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited October 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
People are reporting that they have received another batch of UCAD shares in their accounts equal in amount to the first dividend. This is supposedly due to a new distribution rate based on 390B OS. I called my broker (Lowtrades) and they have no info on further shares coming my way.
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
negotiations and negations

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
[B] It's nothing, really. I didn''t even post it when it came across my streamer. Actually, I can't even see what they replaced.

 


Posted by will on :
 
Haven't seen it my account. Let you know if I do. I use freetrade.

quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
People are reporting that they have received another batch of UCAD shares in their accounts equal in amount to the first dividend. This is supposedly due to a new distribution rate based on 390B OS. I called my broker (Lowtrades) and they have no info on further shares coming my way.


 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
negotiations and negations

Dang. I read that like 10 times, and didn't see it. Thanks, TT.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
TruthTeller
Member posted October 15, 2004 13:08
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is part of latest Dr.D's post..
----------------------------------------
A phone call to your brokerage firms and inquiring about the UCAD shares being truly delivered into your account could yield some interesting information. They will say they have been posted to your account, but as I have found out if you try to withdraw them in certificate form it is denied because the true certificates have not been delivered by the DTC to the brokerage firms Street Name. Meaning, they have no restricted UCAD shares to send us at this time. Speak to the reorganization Department at your broker and ask them specifically about the time frame for the UCAD delivery so you can withdraw your UCAD certificates, whether you intend to or not.
------------------------------------------

Bill,
Whats your take on this? I am asking you because I read you posting 'they can't cover with the shares bought in open market'. What if the MMs work with the broker to show phantom shares in our account? Thx.

=======================================

thats what ameritrade told me over a month ago. i also talked to mytrack & they said about the same thing. restricted & unrestricted shares are 2 differant things on paper. dr. d says call for the certs, well it is true that they can't send you unrestricted shares. the paper cert. will say restricted in plain english. as for the idea that the 0/s is 1/2 the dividend split as i posted yesterday it could be that UC did not want to give away all of ucad. if he gave all shares to shareholders then cmkx would have no stake in ucad at all us shareholders would. so it just might be possible. of course cmkx wouldn't think of saying anything to us shareholders about it...lol. if cmkx was naked shorted & the DTC sent fake shares to broker accounts, street name accounts, they just opened the door to a world of hurt. i would think that instead of putting their necks in the chopping block they would hang the guilty mm's out to dry because i'm sure not all mm's are guilty. better to hang a few mm's then trash the whole system

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Posted by case on :
 
Will:
I just wanted to let you know that
I also recieved more UCAD in my account
today.


_______________________________
"will
Member posted October 15, 2004 15:48 Haven't seen it my account. Let you know if I do. I use freetrade."
________________________________________
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
case
Member posted October 15, 2004 16:43
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Will:
I just wanted to let you know that
I also recieved more UCAD in my account
today.


===================================

Who is your account with & did you recieve the correct amount the first time?? I know 1 broker used the wrong split numbers & had to re-adjust everyone's account
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Does anyone know if Kennsington Resources released a PR today related to FALC 150 Core diamond findings. PLease post if you have any information.


------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"

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Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Yes they did for area 150 I believe. It said it was not economically feasable and they would concentrate on other targets.


It seems the samples had been held since 2003.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i think it was yesterday doc. its on this page or page 8 come to think about it, it was an article in the local paper there. the link is on page 8

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Posted by Doctoall on :
 

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October 15, 2004 01:27 PM US Pacific Timezone

Kensington Resources Ltd.: Microdiamond Results for FALC 150 Core

VICTORIA, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 15, 2004--Kensington Resources Ltd. (TSX VENTURE:KRT) (the "Company") announces that it has received from the operator, De Beers Canada Exploration Inc., microdiamond results from the Kimberley Microdiamond Lab (KMDL) for Kimberlite Body 150 of the Fort a la Corne Diamond Project in east-central Saskatchewan.


Kimberlite 150 was selected for delineation drilling and microdiamond sampling in Fall 2003 due to favourable historical diamond recoveries and its size. The new results were combined with historical data from the 150 body in order to make grade forecasts based on stone size distributions. Both the new data and the grade forecasts by Mineral Resource Management (MRM) of De Beers do not support further drilling and sampling work on this kimberlite but efforts on the other prospective bodies will continue under the current, accelerated program. The 2004 - 2005 evaluation and exploration program, budgeted at $7.62 million, represents the largest and most aggressive program to date at Fort a la Corne.

"While the diamond recoveries from Kimberlite 150 were lower than expected, the Joint Venture partners remain committed in their current strategy of focusing on enriched zones in a number of other proximally-located priority kimberlites bodies including 140/141, 148 and 122," stated Robert McCallum, President and CEO of Kensington. "Past results from these bodies have been very encouraging and in the upcoming meetings of the Joint Venture Management Committee, we will be examining ways to accelerate a development decision on the Fort a la Corne Project."

Representative slabbed core samples were collected from 12 HQ coreholes widely spaced across the 150 body. A total of 392 microdiamonds were recovered from 51 samples utilizing caustic dissolution methods on 422 kilograms of core submitted to the Saskatchewan Research Council (SRC). The SRC recovered and reported diamonds down to a lower cutoff of 0.075 millimetres in size; diamonds passing through a 0.075 mm screen were not included in the stone tallies. The SRC reported 98.6% recovery of internal tracers during diamond recovery and stone picking was routinely audited by a supervisor.

Recovered diamonds and selected caustic residues were sent to the De Beers' Kimberley Microdiamond Laboratory (KMDL) for further auditing and verification of individual stone size, shape, and sieve category using proprietary techniques. KMDL reported 238 stones with dimensions equivalent to a +74 micron sieve cut-off and having a combined weight of 0.248 carats including one macrodiamond weighing 0.226 carats recovered in the 2 mm sieve category. The average diamond grade for all samples was 5.7 stones per 10 kg utilizing only stones greater than 74 microns.

Due to geological complexity in the 150 kimberlite body, the results from the 2003 drillholes were divided into three groups corresponding to the three areal lobes of the kimberlite outline (Table One). Diamond results by kimberlite type and sieve category are shown in Table Two.


Table One: 150 Microdiamond Results by Kimberlite Type

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Micro-
diamond
Abundance
greater
Total Stones than 74 Stones
150 Sample Carat greater microns larger
Kimberlite Mass Total Weight than 74 (stones/ than
Area (kg) Stones (octacarats) microns 10 kg) 0.5 mm
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North Lobe 82.7 80 394,500 47 5.7
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West Lobe 239.5 258 24,332,850 161 6.7 1;
0.226 cts.
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South Lobe 99.5 54 183,400 31 3.1
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Total 421.7 392 24,910,750 239 Average
of 5.7
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One octacarat is equivalent to 1x10(-8) carats


Table Two: KMDL 150 Microdiamond Results (greater than 74 microns)
by Sieve Category and Kimberlite Type

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Kimberlite +0.074mm +0.106mm +0.150mm +0.212mm
Type Sieve Sieve Sieve Sieve
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North Lobe 22 18 3 4
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West Lobe 78 49 25 6
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South Lobe 18 9 3 1
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Total 118 76 31 11
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+0.600 to
Kimberlite +0.300mm +0.425mm +0.850 mm +2 mm
Type Sieve Sieve Sieves Sieve
---------------------------------------------------------------------
North Lobe 0 0 0 0
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West Lobe 2 0 0 1
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South Lobe 0 0 0 0
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Total 2 0 0 1
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In terms of stone size fractions, approximately 49.4% of the stones were recovered on the 0.074 mm sieve and 94.1% of the stones were retained in sieves less than 0.212 mm (Table 2). However, 91% of the total carat weight of diamond from these samples was recovered in a single stone from the west lobe. Viewed in isolation, microdiamond stone counts can be misleading and the estimation of macrodiamond grade from microdiamond results will require an interpretation of the diamond grade-size plots.

The 2003 microdiamond dataset was made available for modeling grade estimates by MRM. From the combined dataset of historical and new results, 352 microdiamonds from the west lobe were available for modeling, of which 46 were re-categorized as less than 74 microns in size, and therefore not used. Due to the prevalence of stones in only four size classes, historical macrodiamond data for 56 stones was utilized to stabilize the grade-size curve. The grade forecast for this lobe is 3 cpht and encompasses an estimated mass of 68 million tonnes of kimberlite based on integration of drillhole information and geophysical data. Currently, confidence limits for the modeled data are not available.

Modeling of the south lobe of the body utilized 129 microdiamonds (23 unused stones were categorized as less than 74 microns in size) grouped into four size categories. Only 15 macrodiamonds were recovered from this lobe in the past and this number of stones was insufficient to include in the modeling. The south lobe was assigned a forecast grade of 3 cpht encompassing a mass of 50.5 million tonnes based on integration of drillhole information and geophysical data. The north lobe was not modeled due to the availability of only 67 microdiamonds and no historical macrodiamonds. The estimated mass for this lobe is 32.1 tonnes.

The reader is cautioned that the grade estimates are conceptual in nature. The grade of kimberlite above a 1.5 mm bottom cutoff is estimated from a combination of micro- and macrodiamond data. Confidence levels for these figures are low and additional testing of macrodiamond content may be required to increase confidence levels in the grade forecasts. The reader also should be aware that insufficient geological control and quantity of sampling has been obtained to permit rigorous application of economic considerations and that there is no certainty that these preliminary assessments will be realized. In short, the figures presented herein are utilized as an exploration tool and their primary value is for comparison of diamondiferous kimberlite targets within the focus of the ongoing evaluation program.

The large gravity anomaly located east of the known 150 body was targeted with an HQ corehole during the last week of September, 2004. No substantial kimberlite interval was intersected, although a three metre thick kimberlitic ash bed was encountered within mudstone of the Lower Colorado Group at a depth of 142.6 metres. The corehole was terminated at a depth of 195 metres. The source of the gravity anomaly remains unknown.

Brent C. Jellicoe, P.Geo. is the Qualified Person for the Company and has reviewed the technical information herein. All aspects of quality assurance, quality control, and sample chain of custody for the Fort a la Corne Joint Venture are managed by De Beers Canada Exploration Inc., the project operator.

Using the expertise of proven management and world-class, experienced technical advisors, Kensington Resources Ltd. is actively involved in confirming the economic potential of this deposit and moving the project forward to a development decision as rapidly as possible. The Fort a la Corne Diamond Project is a joint venture among Kensington Resources Ltd. (42.25%), De Beers Canada Exploration Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of De Beers (42.25%), Cameco Corporation (5.5%) and UEM Inc. (carried 10%). The 71+ kimberlite bodies of the Fort a la Corne Field form one of the largest diamondiferous clusters in the world.

Robert A. McCallum, President & CEO

TRADING SYMBOL: KRT-TSX.V

FORM 20-F FILE #0-24980

LISTED IN STANDARD & POOR'S

The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this news release.

Contacts


Kensington Resources Ltd.
Robert A. McCallum
President & CEO
1-800-514-7859 or (250) 361-1578
Fax: (250) 361-3410
Email: mel-gardner@kensington-resources.com
Email: rob-mccallum@kensington-resources.com
or
Kensington Resources Ltd.
Mel Gardner
Manager Investor Relations
1-800-710-6083
Email: mel-gardner@kensington-resources.com
Website: www.kensington-resources.com




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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hi folks. Been out of town for most of the week and it took me over an hour to read all the posts I missed.

Will, thanks for your concern! Really enjoyed some of your and Upside's posts.

No, I was not banned. Just away and having a bit of fun in a toy train meet.

Bill1352, want you to know I am very impressed with the talent you demonstrate with your posts. Always in-depth thinking and excellent logic!

Upside, had I been here, with my exceptional expertise and WS experience (LOL), I could have told you that you were entitled to the split shares on UCAD. As long as shares are issued and outstanding (restricted or not), that will always be true. I have no idea why people cannot get certs on the restricted shares, but it may be that they would cause too much confusion down the road without broker control.

Sure hope "noahltl" decides to ask to get back on Allstocks. I am sure you will see this, noahltl, so please do return. We miss your spunk and theories.

tigertony, don't let anyone chase you away when you might have something to contribute. It does not matter whether you own shares of CMKX or not. You could own shares in HELL and still be welcome as far as I am concerned.

Didn't check, so can anyone tell me if CMKX closed at .0001 during the week?


 


Posted by case on :
 
Will:
Trading direct said they received a letter from US Clearing Corp and the new rate is .0000192. My account also reflects this.

[This message has been edited by case (edited October 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Re the above post on Kensington and compare it to CMKX with all the monies wasted or put into other interests or operations:
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The 2004 - 2005 evaluation and exploration program, budgeted at $7.62 million, represents the largest and most aggressive program to date at Fort a la Corne.
******************************************

How about that?

 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
case
Member posted October 15, 2004 16:43

That would be ETRADE. They gave us the remaing shares due but I've not seen any since then. It would sure be nice if we get our shares doubled before the 3:1 split!

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~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
If the correct OS is 390 Billion then the OS before Nevada got theirs would have been 315 billion or there abouts.


Maybe Uncle Melvie wasn't lying.
 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
No, I was not banned. Just away and having a bit of fun in a toy train meet.

What scale trains you deal with? I'm not into it but I have a friend that's starting up a business to sell Lynol scale collectable trains. I can give you his web site if you are interested.

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~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
ETRADE BETTER GET ON THE BALL!!!!!!!!!
I AM GOING TO GET THE PRESIDENTS FAX NUMBER AND FIND THE NUMBER TO GET A NASD COMPLAINT SHEET EVERYONE ELSE THAT HAS ETRADE SHOULD DO THE SAME IF I GET THE NUMBERS I WILL POST THEM IN HERE.
so wouldnt this help you guys believe there truly is a short. come on think about it
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Ameritrade, no additional UCAD shares as of the time of this posting.
Ed
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Ameritrade knows nothing about a change in UCAD dividend disbursement. Just got this reply:

Thank you for contacting us today regarding the spinoff of US Canadian Minerals (UCAD) restricted shares.

CMKM Diamonds shareholders were entitled to a spin-off of US Canadian Minerals (UCAD) shares. The shares distributed were restricted according to the company, meaning that the shares are non-marketable until the restriction is lifted. Ameritrade does not know the terms of the restriction. No symbol or value will show on the client?s position in their account.

The shares were distributed at a rate of 0.00000962:1, or approximately 9.62 shares of UCAD for each 1 million shares of CMKX held on the record date. The record date for the distribution was 8/20/04. Because this is a record date, not an ex-dividend date, the client must have had a settled position by 8/20/04 to be entitled to the spin-off shares. Any shares purchased on or after 8/18/04 did not entitle the purchaser to the spin-off shares.

At this time, our clearing department has received information from the Depository Trust Company (DTC) indicating that fractional shares will be dropped, and will not be rounded up.

If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message.

Sincerely,

Jon Mercer
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.

 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Anyone else heard this new ratio??
I hope no one is posting false info only to dash our hopes yet again!
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
what is the number to trading direct. I will call them Ill check google and find them
 
Posted by case on :
 
So, who is right?
At this rate stated is the rate I had before today!(0.00000962) Now my account is at this rate of .0000192

"The shares were distributed at a rate of 0.00000962:1, or approximately 9.62 shares of UCAD for each 1 million shares of CMKX held on the record date. The record date for the distribution was 8/20/04. Because this is a record date, not an"
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Look if they did change it,which i hope they did for all of you.All of the company's wiil get to it and change it.It won't be a problem.Good Luck

Thanks Wallace

 


Posted by case on :
 
You can contact us via...
Email info@tradingdirect.com
Phone 1-800-925-8566 Toll Free
212-766-0241 Telephone
Fax 212-766-0914 Fax
Mail Trading Direct
160 Broadway, East Building, 7th Floor
New York, NY 10038
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by case:
So, who is right?
At this rate stated is the rate I had before today!(0.00000962) Now my account is at this rate of .0000192

"The shares were distributed at a rate of 0.00000962:1, or approximately 9.62 shares of UCAD for each 1 million shares of CMKX held on the record date. The record date for the distribution was 8/20/04. Because this is a record date, not an"


I wonder if they double posted your account.

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~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by case on :
 
Gatorman:
I doubt it, because this person on another board with Trading Direct got the same response as my self.


"I wonder if they double posted your account.

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~,-,-< GatorMan"
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Why would they claim to have a letter from the clearing house if it was a double posting?
 
Posted by case on :
 
Here is the post from another board.
jjdiamond
Diamond Hunter


member is offline


Gender:
Posts: 3

New distribution rate for UCAD dividend
« Thread started on: Today at 1:03pm »
Has anyone else heard there is a new distrubution rate for our UCAD dividend? Trading direct said they received a letter from US Clearing and the new rate is .0000192. My accout also reflects this.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Someone got mail back from their broker who said the clearing house made the mistake and the shares will be adjusted back to the original amount.
 
Posted by case on :
 
sdrobert
Did you call them yet?
I'll have to get off the computer if I call.
And I kind of like the way it looks!!


Email info@tradingdirect.com
Phone 1-800-925-8566 Toll Free
212-766-0241 Telephone
Fax 212-766-0914 Fax
Mail Trading Direct
160 Broadway, East Building, 7th Floor
New York, NY 10038


"sdrobert
Member posted October 15, 2004 17:52 what is the number to trading direct. I will call them Ill check google and find them"


 


Posted by case on :
 
FIGURES, Recked my day!!!!

RaiderJR
Member posted October 15, 2004 18:12 Someone got mail back from their broker who said the clearing house made the mistake and the shares will be adjusted back to the original amount.
 


Posted by case on :
 
And I just redid my book work
May be they will forget to change mine back!!!
 
Posted by case on :
 
Or hope fully their broker is wrong
and not clearing corp. Why would clearing house do that if they didn't get that info?
I mean they already gave me the other rate that wasn't as many!!!

"RaiderJR
Member posted October 15, 2004 18:12 Someone got mail back from their broker who said the clearing house made the mistake and the shares will be adjusted back to the original amount."
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I think the clearing house over corrected something.

Don't let it ruin your weekend. We still have Monday and the next Monday and the next.

Maybe that is why UCAD slipped after hours, they thought the news meant dilution or something.
 


Posted by case on :
 
Where did you guys go!!!
Are youu all calling THEM???
 
Posted by case on :
 
RaiderJR:
That could be the reason!
I just hope Clearing corp is
right, but it won't reck my week end.
But if clearing corp is wrong. Then I'm sorry for getting you guys excited!!!!

[This message has been edited by case (edited October 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by case on :
 
I had to join another board to find this post!
Sorry for getting you guys excited. I'm going to go hide in shame!!!

"From : trading direct <info@tradingdirect.com>
Sent : Friday, October 15, 2004 2:43 PM
To :
Subject : Re: Account Issues

In this case, US Clearing over corrected, and will adjust the entries over the weekend.

Thank you,
Trading Direct
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P.S. Incidentally, for Etrade users, those who reported receiving double shares as well were apparently misreading their figures, as Etrade's means of displaying the dividend shares was confusing to some. FWIW, I use Etrade, and my number of shares is the same, at the original ratio of .00000962."

_________________
David
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
GatorMan

What scale trains you deal with? I'm not into it but I have a friend that's starting up a business to sell Lynol scale collectable trains. I can give you his web site if you are interested.

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Hope your friend checked out the market very, very carefully. Word is the market is down and expected to go down much more. This is world's largest convention and still going on as of now.

I collect Lionel, Ives, American Flyer and Marx + others - standard, "0" gauge and "S" gauge, pre-war and post war. Don't care if they work, since use parts and good at repairing engines.

Thanks for the info and please do send me your friend's address. Maybe the various reports I got at the convention will be of help to him.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
many saying a pr tonight. Rumors include

1. 20 bill os

2. Debeers buying some claims for 2 billion

3. fully reporting

4. drill results


Why would they announce tonight when they are airing the uc interview monday?
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Damn.. these crazie rumours are back..

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
many saying a pr tonight. Rumors include

1. 20 bill os

2. Debeers buying some claims for 2 billion

3. fully reporting

4. drill results


Why would they announce tonight when they are airing the uc interview monday?



 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
The reason why they would post a pr before the interview whether it be tonight saturday or sunday is because I dont think they are aloud to anounce certain information before the info is made public to all. I think it would fall under some sort of illegal insider information. martha stewart kind of thing. I might be wrong who knows. Honestly my guess is there wont be anything to groundbreaking. Probably just a interview talking about what the company is currently up to and what endevours they are setting out to do. At least I think thats what a normal company would do. I doubt the interview will say we have 700 billion shares shorted so you will recieve a cash divy 2 dollars a share. Expect something a bit more on the normal side usefull company information not crazy crap.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
debeers paying 2 billion hmmmm if all that money went to shares that would make pps. possible .0025?? hmm that does not sound like a dime to me grrrr
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Now we have Martha Stewart as a CMKX'r. She's probably gettin her fellow inmates to sell some cigarettes and buy CMKX.


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
.0025 with a 20 bill os and a ten mile wide pipe with diamonds might make it hit a dime.


I must be tired.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
With Debeers negative results today, maybe they are in the mood to buy and explore some new pipes?
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Wouldn't pay any attention to the recent rumors, etc. None make sense at all.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, I was gone most of the late afternoon and early evening, thankfully. I missed seeing my UCAD double, I missed seeing O/S slashed in half. Kind of disappointing. However, it will be more fodder for the geniuses to post new and exciting theories. By the way, the same one's who admitted to a 390B O/S, will now again deny the 780B O/S. LOL..they would have been pleased with an astronomical 390B, but will steadfastly deny 780B now.
As far as the rest of rumors are concerned, I ain't biting. I'll believe it when I see it in my account, or I can sell for .0006+. Until then, just BS.
 
Posted by will on :
 
.and you, my friend, next time you decide to wander the country for "most of the week", be nice if you let someone know.
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Wouldn't pay any attention to the recent rumors, etc. None make sense at all.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Sorry, Will. Didn't want to give all the pumpers an opportunity to think it was time to raid my thread again. LOL Just noticed 1 of the fanatical ct crowd.

CORRECTION: "your thread" LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
The thread belongs to everyone. I don't mind telling you, as much as it makes me cringe to read some of their over-the-top, rediculous stuff, I miss the "faithful." It's difficult arguing with like minded people.
They'll be back, especially if they have platters of hot crow to serve. Bet you they were on their way here when that 390B O/S was floating around.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Sorry, Will. Didn't want to give all the pumpers an opportunity to think it was time to raid my thread again. LOL Just noticed 1 of the fanatical ct crowd.

CORRECTION: "your thread" LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 15, 2004).]



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I cannot see any way they could have "hot crow" to serve. The closest is the companies CMKX has been involved with, and none of that adds up as to why they may have had pps increases...especially in view of their eps.

Cannot figure out what UCAD is doing. Split doesn't make sense except that it reduces the pps to entice more buyers of it's stock for some reason. Maybe they are planning a major increase in authorized as did CMKX and dumping...just don't know. The one thing I do know is that Dhonau is involved and his past record does not appear to be 100% untainted.
 


Posted by GHOST on :
 
Wallace:
Why don't you go do some DD on these rumors.
I'd like to read some real DD on
YOUR THREAD!!!!!


"Sorry, Will. Didn't want to give all the pumpers an opportunity to think it was time to raid my thread again. LOL Just noticed 1 of the fanatical ct crowd."

CORRECTION: "your thread" LOL
 


Posted by BB on :
 
My CMKX shares are in certificates - so I called Ameritrade at the end of last week to find out how I'd get my UCAD dividend shares. They said to call CMKX and find out how they would get them to me. I called and Vicky from St. George Metals was on the recording. So I left a message and we played phone tag until Tuesday. She said Ameritrade gave me the wrong number. She was the IR person for the SGGM. She gave me CMKX's # and said to talk with Melvin (I wonder how many calls he gets a day). We were talking about CMKX and I asked her if she had any shares. She said she has for about 3 years. I asked her how many shares she had by throwing out a few figures and she said it was a lot more than 50 million. Tuesday I left a message on Melvin's answering machine. Still haven't heard from him. I was just wondering if I'll ever see my dividend shares. Should I be holding my breath??? Vicky told me if I don't hear from Melvin to call her back. I'll give her a call at the beginning of next week and see what she can do. She was very nice talking to. I was wondering if anyone has this problem or knows anything about this type of situation. Thanks.

BB
 


Posted by will on :
 
"untainted past"
That isn't news in this company. I would hope that most that bought, even under the theory of a lottery ticket, knew going in that folks involved in the managemnet of CMKX had questionable pasts. Dhonau could be tainted or sqeeky clean, the questions were there long before we saw or knew his name.
One of the MAIN reasons the faithful say they believe, and are still accumulating is that the holy, ethical, and highly regarded, R Glenn threw in with these folks. Their arguement is that his presence their proves this is an honest and forthright company. Mine is he's there to clean up a mess, and keep them btween the white lines. In other words, to give them respectability, and keep them from getting in trouble. Damage control as opposed to adding integrity. I guess one could argue that is integrity, at least a second hand type of it.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
I cannot see any way they could have "hot crow" to serve. The closest is the companies CMKX has been involved with, and none of that adds up as to why they may have had pps increases...especially in view of their eps.

Cannot figure out what UCAD is doing. Split doesn't make sense except that it reduces the pps to entice more buyers of it's stock for some reason. Maybe they are planning a major increase in authorized as did CMKX and dumping...just don't know. The one thing I do know is that Dhonau is involved and his past record does not appear to be 100% untainted.



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
BB,

You might contact CMKX's transfer agent re your shs. if you don't hear from Melvin. Maybe they have an answer since you are a holder of record on their books.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
there are no pumpers, noah has departed.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=UCAD&duration=2-6-8-0-0-59
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=GEMM&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

This chit is crackin' me up.
Both hadn't had volume anyhing like this before.
Right around the divvy day.What a coincidence
I think a blind man could see why the pps is going up Wally.
Barchart.com likes 'em both too.
I'm gone,got friends over to shoot some pool.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will wrote:

In other words, to give them respectability, and keep them from getting in trouble. Damage control as opposed to adding integrity.
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Will, would not surprise me if maybe they were already in trouble and they brought Glenn in to cover in some way...such as increasing the authorized.
---------------------------------------

RJR,

No pumpers, huh? LOL
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Ghost wrote:

Wallace:
Why don't you go do some DD on these rumors.
------------------------------------------

Please tell me how you would go about doing DD on a rumor? Specify the various sources to access to prove or disprove a rumor.

Sounds like the same DD CMKX people did on CMKX.

Must go now. Tired from recent trip. GLTA
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Wallace,
Good to see you back, was wondering what the heck happened to you.
Tina
 
Posted by Trader O on :
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/041016/165007_1.html

Press Release
Source: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Purchase/Dividend of Juina Mining Shares
Saturday October 16, 3:19 am ET

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 16, 2004--CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX - News), announced today that it has exercised its option to purchase an additional 127,336,036 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets:GEMM - News) for $500,000 USD. The Company has elected to purchase these shares to issue as a dividend to all CMKX shareholders as of the October 29,2004 record date .The distribution date for this latest dividend is set for November 30, 2004.

Further updates will be made in press releases and on both companies' websites.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements, other than the statements of historical facts, may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involves risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, demand and competition for the Company's products and services, the availability to the Company of adequate financing to support its anticipated activities, the ability of the Company to generate cash flow from operations and the ability of the Company to manage its operations.

Further developments and other information on the company may be viewed at our website, http://www.casavantmining.com.

Contact:
CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755
ipr@sasktel.net
 


Posted by GHOST on :
 
Wallace:
You tell me.
Its
YOUR THREAD!!
I figured you would of been the
one to post the newest news!
Just post your email on the board
and when some one is interested
in some thing about the CMKX
we can email ya and
you can go do all the research.
and post it.
I'll tell you what I want to
see right now for Monday, so on
Monday you can have at the research
done and post it on
YOUR THREAD!
I want to see on your thread for Monday
is the complete interview typed out and
on your board. Alot of people might not
have a new enough system to get to listen to
it. I know some one already posted this on
your thread and I hope you will forgive me for posting it again!!

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Purchase/Dividend of Juina Mining Shares
via COMTEX

October 16, 2004

LAS VEGAS, Oct 16, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX), announced today that it has exercised its option to purchase an additional 127,336,036 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets:GEMM) for $500,000 USD. The Company has elected to purchase these shares to issue as a dividend to all CMKX shareholders as of the October 29,2004 record date .The distribution date for this latest dividend is set for November 30, 2004.

Further updates will be made in press releases and on both companies' websites.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements, other than the statements of historical facts, may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involves risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, demand and competition for the Company's products and services, the availability to the Company of adequate financing to support its anticipated activities, the ability of the Company to generate cash flow from operations and the ability of the Company to manage its operations.

Further developments and other information on the company may be viewed at our website, http://www.casavantmining.com.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755 ipr@sasktel.net
Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved.


[This message has been edited by GHOST (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Somebody tell me why they arent using this money to drill for diamonds...this is starting to smell bad....
Ed
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
They don't need the money?:"


They used our .0001 pps to purchase Junia gold mine, now they are rewarding us. They will get much more back in future mining there.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I also think this 15 million dollar divvy shows that this is pocket change to the deep pockets behind us.

It should give us confidence.

1. They have some money now.

2. They want to reward us.
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Somebody tell me why they arent using this money to drill for diamonds...this is starting to smell bad....
Ed

Happy Saturday, everyone. More free stock? Sure, I'll take it.

I'd like to throw out a completely obvious statement. This thread consists of some who believe there is a UC "master plan", and some who do not. Deep, huh? My point is, IF there WAS a master plan, I would think the plan would have to be executed in full BEFORE any serious drilling was done. It doesn't matter how long it takes, but you wouldn't start a race before your car is completely ready.

You've all heard the one about a young bull and an old bull, standing on a hill, looking down into a field of young heifers. The young bull says, "Let's run down there and make love to one of them." The old bull calmly counters with, "Let's WALK down, and make love to them ALL." Patience is key.

I wouldn't expect them to be drilling if they had yet to complete any "master plan."

More food for thought:

I own a small amount of PRRM. It was in the mortgage business. Then one day they sold the biz to NHGP, and gave me shares of NHGP. Now PRRM is in the T.V. station biz. One day I owned a mortgage biz, the next, I owned a T.V. station AND a mortgage biz.

I wonder if one day we will own stock in UCAD, GEMM, CIM, etc., AND own stock in CMKX, which has become strictly a RACING business.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
How many shares of Gemm total do we get now?

Some on the 15th and some on the 30th.

Do we have to hold til divvy date to receive them?
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
The announcement yesturday that the ecuadoran govt had allowed Junia to mine is what cleared the way. Remember UC in a past PR said the Junia divvy was put off til this relationship was made clearer.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well more gemm, good that one might be ok when they get to the diamonds down in south america. as for any master plan, it would seem that without finding a place to move from drilling holes to bunk sampling it would be a junior plan not master. a master plan would include making some money i'd bet 5 buffalo nickels the o/s will not change or be explained till after the second gemm dividend not even why the CIM works out to 1.6 trillion and then goes back too 779 billion for gemm
 
Posted by will on :
 
Don't know if I figured it correctly, because my calculator can't eat that 780B number. Dropping the last four digits in both numbers, (127336036, and 780,000,000,000, working with 12,733 divided by 7,800,000), I figure the dividend to be .0001632 GEMM forever 1 share of CMKX, or 163.2 shares per million, or @ the current price of .122, $19.91 per million CMKX.
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Will the divvy create a short squeeze or a dilution effect.
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Will, that is the second divvy right? How much when you add both?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I concur...my calculations come out the same plus or minus a share or two.
Ed
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Don't know if I figured it correctly, because my calculator can't eat that 780B number. Dropping the last four digits in both numbers, (127336036, and 780,000,000,000, working with 12,733 divided by 7,800,000), I figure the dividend to be .0001632 GEMM forever 1 share of CMKX, or 163.2 shares per million, or @ the current price of .122, $19.91 per million CMKX.


 


Posted by will on :
 
Heres the amount of shares for the first dividend: 95,502,027. Lets do the same thing we did for the last calculation, drop the last four digits of each number. 9,550 divide by 78,000,000, or .00012 per share of CMKX, or 122.4 per million CMKX, @ current price .122 = $14.93 per million shares of CMKX.

$19.91 + $14.93 =$34.84 per million shares of CMKX for both GEMM dividends.

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Will, that is the second divvy right? How much when you add both?

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i figure that what is happening here with CMKX and the dividends is that they are buying inflated priced shares, and giving them to share holders as restricted shares. in doing so they are liquidating the cash that we gave them. convincing us to hold the shares by giving us the shares. that once they are unrestricted they wont be worth anything.

legal form of taking our money and giving us something for our money. the problem is that they will devaluate quicker then a used car in a bowl of salt. thus the perfect scam. somehow behind the scenes Casavant will pull a generous salery form these companies and we are left with nothing to show but a bunch of useless stocks.

if they where to throw the same amount of money at drilling and exploration on the land that we already have the rights to, then they might actually make money. Somethign is wrong with the whole idea of this company. why spend money when we are not making money?

think about it.

if my theory is right this is one brilliant scam. way to go Casavant.
 


Posted by will on :
 
I don't think the GEMM dividend is restricted. The others are, true. Better that they were bought outright as opposed to exchanging claims for them.
It appears they bought these shares at about .04 ea.

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
whats the point in the buy. they buy all these shares and give them to us. what value does this give the company?

they are not gaining any more of the company that way they just bought them and gave them away basically. Ill take them but i dont see any economical advantage to this move other then to convince share holders to hold thier shares.

please someone explain to me how this is a good move and economically responsible of the company to do this.

as well not how many dividends are we suppose to be seeing? this seems like the 4th one i have heard of but i have only seen one show up in my account.

Please enlighten me on this.


quote:
Originally posted by will:
I don't think the GEMM dividend is restricted. The others are, true. Better that they were bought outright as opposed to exchanging claims for them.
It appears they bought these shares at about .04 ea.


[This message has been edited by will (edited October 16, 2004).]



 


Posted by will on :
 
What I find funny is the time of the PR, Saturday October 16, 3:19 am ET. I know it isn't any big deal, but I just wonder if these guys finish a bottle of cognac. and say, "Hey let's put out a PR" Just a weird time to release a PR.



 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
300 Am is about the time they left the High Roller Black Jack Table in LV. Maybe he won the shares at the table. In any case I am still in and holding. As it has been said "never invest more than you can afford to loose". And hell you never know what will happen with the Casavant Gang!!!

------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
whats the point in the buy. they buy all these shares and give them to us. what value does this give the company?

That brings us back to bill's post that questions whether the 300B increase was just so CMKX could get divies on all that, and then retire them later:

bill1352
Member posted October 14, 2004 05:37            
------------------------------------------------------------------------
well we do know that the ucad dividend was split up into 779 billion shares thus the o/s is the same as the split would be differant if it was for the 800 billion a/s but i will give those that think the o/s or float is less. the more i think about it why wouldn't UC want to keep part of ucad in cmkx, why give the whole thing to us shareholders. ucad is becoming at strong company and cmkx could use something positive on it's books. as the a/s was increased so fast before the own by date and once the dividend was paid to those shares they could be retired and thus the true float not be 779 billion but back to the 483 billion before the a/s increase.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
PR - Gemm jv has diamonds.

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Press Release Source: Diagem International Resource Corp.


Diagem Recovers 0.50 Carat Diamond From Testing Of SL-01 Kimberlite Pipe
Friday October 15, 10:32 am ET


VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA--(CCNMatthews - Oct. 15, 2004) - Diagem INTERNATIONAL RESOURCE CORP.(TSXV GM) ("Diagem") announces that it has completed its preliminary testing of the SL-01 kimberlite pipe, located on Property 370/96, in the Juina Diamondiferous Kimberlite and Gravel Province, Mato Grosso State, Brazil. Little was previously known about this pipe, which sits on a small creek adjoining the Juinninha River, an area with extensive historical garimpeiro activities.
This preliminary test achieved its objective, determining that this kimberlite pipe is: 1) diamondiferous, and 2) contains diamonds of a commercial size. The results are as follows:

---------------------------------------------------------------------
SAMPLE VOLUME PROCESSED STONES CARATS GRADE
(M3) RECOVERED RECOVERED (CT/M3)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
PBT 01/370
(Eluvial) 31.5 4 0.78 0.025
---------------------------------------------------------------------
PBT 02/370
(Kimberlite) 29.3 1 0.50 0.017
---------------------------------------------------------------------


The two test samples were extracted using a hydraulic excavator and processed in the Company's jig bulk testing equipment; final diamond sorting was conducted in the field using closely supervised panning techniques. The "Eluvial" sample, taken from atop of the kimberlite consisted of soil, rich in ilmenite and garnets containing four diamonds weighing 0.27, 0.22, 0.15 and 0.14 carats. Further delineation and testing of the SL-01 kimberlite pipe is planned.

Diagem signs joint venture agreement with major landowner/diamond miner.

Diagem is pleased to announce that it has entered into an agreement to explore and exploit diamondiferous deposits in joint venture with Mr. Hermes Bergamin, one of the largest landowners in the Juina Diamondiferous Kimberlite and Gravel Province, Mato Grosso State, Brazil.

Mr. Bergamin is well known in the region as a most effective operator who has exploited the diamondiferous gravels of this region in the past. Mr. Bergamin's farmlands mostly cover part of the Company's mineral right, Property 108, which lies at the centre of the Company's property holdings.

The joint venture will share costs and revenues equally; with diamonds produced being jointly controlled by the use of the Company's diamond recovery plant, which incorporates an X-ray Sortex machine. This project will initially commence on a 30-hectare parcel of land with provisions for expansion.

This agreement is yet another example of the accelerated growth in production opportunities now available to the Company in the wake of the Kimberley Process (see Press release March 31, 2004). With the collaboration of Diagem, landowners can now regularize previously illegal operations. Similar agreements are being discussed with other landowners, providing substantial opportunities for increased diamond production. These agreements also grant increased access to the landowner's farms for the Company to explore for further Gravel resources and to test and explore for the primary kimberlite source(s) within the vast Juina diamond field.

The technical content of this news release has been approved by Dr. Mousseau Tremblay, of Williamstown, Ontario, a Qualified Person, President, CEO and Director of Diagem International Resource Corp.

For and on behalf of

Diagem International Resource Corp.

"Mousseau Tremblay"

President & CEO



 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Methinks if CMKX ever becomes a reporting company and all these questions are answered, this thread will explode. There wont be anything to talk about (LOL).
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
PS

The Gemm divvy is not restricted. All this negative stuff is bogus.
 


Posted by will on :
 
That begs the question, what negative stuff?
The only thing I saw was penny trader, questioning the stragedy of buying shares, and giving them as dividends as opposed to spending money on exploration. That isn't negative, it is a legimate question for him.

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
PS

The Gemm divvy is not restricted. All this negative stuff is bogus.



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Negative if it assumes the company is scamming shareholders which it did.

Also the 3am casino bit, the 3am is midnight in UC's timezone. What you do is file it with business wire or whatever service and tell them to post it at this time if possible.


I just have to laugh, everytime good news comes someone has to spin it negative, which might keep the price down so I can buy some more.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Here is one persons take, 15.5 million in stock for 500K.


CMKX/GEMM: 127 M shares of GEMM purchased at .0039/share. GEMM currently trades at .122/share.

I ask all of my fellow longs: where else could we get a better deal on a company that already has gold and has an established source of those sparkling things?


 


Posted by will on :
 
The 3 AM was not negative. It was a humorous observation. I haven't seen any other company PR at these seeemingly strange hours, 10PM on a Saturday I recall one being, now 3 AM on a Friday.
Jesus Christ, if you can't take a little humor, I don't know what to tell you.
You see negatives in everything that doesn't agree totally with your thoughts. Lighten up.
quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Negative if it assumes the company is scamming shareholders which it did.

Also the 3am casino bit, the 3am is midnight in UC's timezone. What you do is file it with business wire or whatever service and tell them to post it at this time if possible.


I just have to laugh, everytime good news comes someone has to spin it negative, which might keep the price down so I can buy some more.



 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
this still doesn't answer my question.

if they wanted a piece of the action why not just buy the shares they want instead of going to all the trouble of raising the shares by 300 billion, causing a pile of animosity in the investors about the increase, distribute the dividend and then retiring the 300 billion. i don't buy that reasoning. my feeling is they are not going to retire anything but out money.

i feel that the 60 million dollars raised buy selling the 300 billion shares at an average price of .0002 is being funneled out of the company by buying all these shares and that Casavant is getting a kickback in the form of a salary from these other companies. selling us out by giving us dividends is his way of keeping you buying shares sending him more money.

the shares that we have will eventually be unrestricted and i will bet my left nut that they will be valueless.
I don't care at this point as i only have 2 million shares of which i have free. i have made my profit on this stock and only hold on to these shares in the very very very slim chance that this is not a scam.


ya i can afford to loose my money on this one. but i know for a fact that those that have thousands and thousands of dollars invested in this will be sitting on the edge of their seats for years to coming hoping for a train to come in holding their money. the problem is that that train doesn't exist.

I hope to god i am dead wrong for those in that situation, but i don't see where this thing is going to fly. I will probably win the lottery before this thing makes us any money.

IMHO


quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
That brings us back to bill's post that questions whether the 300B increase was just so CMKX could get divies on all that, and then retire them later:

bill1352
Member posted October 14, 2004 05:37            



 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
its not negativity that im trying to bring im interested in see how this is good news.

Dividends are paid on a normal stock when a company is proffitable. CMKX deos not have any form of income outside of dilution.

i fail to see the viability in this theroy of paying dividends with no income.

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
PS

The Gemm divvy is not restricted. All this negative stuff is bogus.


[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
I agreed with that. Currently trading at .122, and I said they paid about .04 per share. It's a good deal, but don't get carried away, it's $19.91 per million shares you own. If you bought 10M shares at .0001, thats $1,000, the dividend equals $199.91 for every 10M. You made 19.91% of your investment back, and still hold your CMKX at .0002. How can anyone say that is bad for the shareholder? penny just question the wisdom of giving it away as opposed to keeping it on the company books strengthing the company assets.

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Here is one persons take, 15.5 million in stock for 500K.


CMKX/GEMM: 127 M shares of GEMM purchased at .0039/share. GEMM currently trades at .122/share.

I ask all of my fellow longs: where else could we get a better deal on a company that already has gold and has an established source of those sparkling things?


[This message has been edited by will (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
further on this show me another company that pays dividends with no revenue. where is the money coming from? its through dilution. it is the only way.

[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
exactly will

now if someone can give me a good answer to support this i would be very greatful.

giving away money that they get from dilutioin is not making sence to me


quote:
Originally posted by will:
I agreed with that. Currently trading at .122, and I said they paid about .04 per share. It's a good deal, but don't get carried away, it's $19.91 per million shares you own. If you bought 10M shares at .0001, thats $1,000, the dividend equals $199.91 for every 10M. You made 19.91% of your investment back, and still hold your CMKX at .0002. How can anyone say that is bad for the shareholder? penny just question the wisdom of giving it away as opposed to keeping it on the company books strenthing the company assets.


[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Dilution is not a good way to make your income. I have no problem with dilution once they have found diamonds and now need to build the mine. but to throw away money like this makes no sense. when and if they ever find diamonds we are not going to be able to build the mine. how much more are they going to be able to raise the A/S count and still be a viable stock. they are over extended in my mind. you don't build a mine with out money. The only way they will be able to do it in my eyes is to do one mother of a large Reverse split, and re dilute the stock

I see us in a no win situation on this stock. why cant anyone answer my previous question?

I'm not sure there is a good answer to it.

IMHO

quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
further on this show me another company that pays dividends with no revenue. where is the money coming from? its through dilution. it is the only way.

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Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Hope your friend checked out the market very, very carefully. Word is the market is down and expected to go down much more. This is world's largest convention and still going on as of now.

I collect Lionel, Ives, American Flyer and Marx + others - standard, "0" gauge and "S" gauge, pre-war and post war. Don't care if they work, since use parts and good at repairing engines.

Thanks for the info and please do send me your friend's address. Maybe the various reports I got at the convention will be of help to him.


My friend is pretty thorough and very conservative so I'm sure he checked things out and beleives there is a market. Here is his web site: www. smrtrains. com. The www. trains. com forum also has a thread regarding his product.

Sorry for the off topic. I now return you to the normal CMKX postings.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan

[This message has been edited by GatorMan (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
GatorMan, thank you. Your off topic was a nice little respite from the polarization here.
One labeling a scam, another looking to buy more. I don't think it's a scam, I don't totally agree with the wisdom of giving the dividend when you look at it from penny's logic, but I sure wouldn't buy more or advise anyone else to either.
I was once was accused of finding negatives here that weren't here, but when someone capitalizing on a humurous remark regarding the time of a PR to point to a negative remark, now that's really stretching accusations of negativetism.
 
Posted by glfpimp on :
 
Why is UCAD down so much after hours?????
 
Posted by will on :
 
What goes up must come down. It had a huge run a couple days ago, almost hit $19, maybe a little gap filling, retracement, not unusual.

quote:
Originally posted by glfpimp:
Why is UCAD down so much after hours?????


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Common guys someone in here must be able to answer my question. everyone is quick to shoot me down as bringing negative to the board but no one will answer a question that would bring clearity to many im sure.

can anyone answer my question?

Dividends are paid on a normal stock when a company is proffitable. CMKX does not have any form of income outside of dilution.

i fail to see the viability in this theroy of paying dividends with no income.

[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I cannot believe this, you guys been waiting for PR and you missed. lol ok may be this is not the one

Sat 16/10/2004 3:25 AM
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Purchase/Dividend of Juina Mining Shares
via COMTEX

October 16, 2004

LAS VEGAS, Oct 16, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX), announced today that it has exercised its option to purchase an additional 127,336,036 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets:GEMM) for $500,000 USD. The Company has elected to purchase these shares to issue as a dividend to all CMKX shareholders as of the October 29,2004 record date .The distribution date for this latest dividend is set for November 30, 2004.

Further updates will be made in press releases and on both companies' websites.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements, other than the statements of historical facts, may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involves risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, demand and competition for the Company's products and services, the availability to the Company of adequate financing to support its anticipated activities, the ability of the Company to generate cash flow from operations and the ability of the Company to manage its operations.

Further developments and other information on the company may be viewed at our website, http://www.casavantmining.com.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755 ipr@sasktel.net

Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved.

[This message has been edited by TradingWizard (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
we seen this already there has been discussion already on why it came out at 3 am. and mention that they won the shares at a poker game.

it was not stated as fact but as humor.

quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
I cannot believe this, you guys been waiting for PR and you missed. lol

Sat 16/10/2004 3:25 AM
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Purchase/Dividend of Juina Mining Shares
via COMTEX

October 16, 2004

LAS VEGAS, Oct 16, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX), announced today that it has exercised its option to purchase an additional 127,336,036 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets:GEMM) for $500,000 USD. The Company has elected to purchase these shares to issue as a dividend to all CMKX shareholders as of the October 29,2004 record date .The distribution date for this latest dividend is set for November 30, 2004.

Further updates will be made in press releases and on both companies' websites.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements, other than the statements of historical facts, may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involves risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, demand and competition for the Company's products and services, the availability to the Company of adequate financing to support its anticipated activities, the ability of the Company to generate cash flow from operations and the ability of the Company to manage its operations.

Further developments and other information on the company may be viewed at our website, http://www.casavantmining.com.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755 ipr@sasktel.net

Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved.



 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
we seen this already there has been discussion already on why it came out at 3 am. and mention that they won the shares at a poker game.

it was not stated as fact but as humor.


And for second I thought I am going to have some fun, I guess not. Good day.


 


Posted by GHOST on :
 
Penny Stock:
I can't stay on very long, but how
do you know whether or not you
know whats going on behind the seens
that they just didn't let out yet?

"legal form of taking our money and giving us something for our money. the problem is that they will devaluate quicker then a used car in a bowl of salt. thus the perfect scam. somehow behind the scenes Casavant will pull a generous salery form these companies and we are left with nothing to show but a bunch of useless stocks."
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
im not trying to keep you from having fun

lol sorry if i ruined it for you though.

lol

I am trying to find out how this is a good ting for us and have posed the qustion several times in here today with no answer.

please feel free to aproach this if you can explain this to me. my questions started on the bottom of the previous page.

quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
And for second I thought I am going to have some fun, I guess not. Good day.



 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
please note that i said that it was my opinion not fact.

can you prove otherwise?

or is it just your opinion? if so i can question you as well on it right?

quote:
Originally posted by GHOST:
Penny Stock:
I can't stay on very long, but how
do you know whether or not you
know whats going on behind the seens
that they just didn't let out yet?

"legal form of taking our money and giving us something for our money. the problem is that they will devaluate quicker then a used car in a bowl of salt. thus the perfect scam. somehow behind the scenes Casavant will pull a generous salery form these companies and we are left with nothing to show but a bunch of useless stocks."


[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by GHOST on :
 
Penny Trader
Heck No:
I sure wish
I did!
But just because they
didn't give us their master
plan doesn't mean there isn't
one!
Don't get me wrong, I'm up in the
air on this my self, but you never know!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Hey, TradingWizard, you missed us not missing it.
More free shares of GEMM, I'll take it.
However, penny's question is legitimate. There isn't any answer to it, penny. This whole play defies logic. Record date is Oct 31, so does it really hurt to hold another few weeks?
God knows why these people do what they do. I still don't believe there is a "master plan", no one could have planned this mess.

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by GHOST on :
 
Will:
How do you know what
is going on behind what
they let out and didn't let
out?
Any body running a business
has a plan.

"God knows why these people do what they do. I still don't believe there is a "master plan", no one could have planned this mess."

[This message has been edited by GHOST (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Penny trader thanks for your reply looks like someone was working either late night or early morning.

Oh boy, you maybe asking wrong person today since I been kind of watching CMKX on and off and probably there are many things I am not aware of. Here, see if my answer will make any sense. CMKX has no revenue, however, don't they have money from investors, not just shareholders, I am talking about other companies.

On the other hand, I am sure someone may have better answer than me.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i agree that there is a master plan and it involves a shiit load of money. i just cant see where we are in on the reaping of the rewards.

Dividends and dilution of shares are at opposite ends of the gamut. Dividends are at the good end and dilution at the bad end.

Dividends are paid when a company is making money. the first thing that stops with a company as soon as they stop making money is the dividend.

Dilution happens at the opposite end of the scale. when a company has no income and needs to generate money it dilutes the stock. this is bad for the stock because it deflates the share price, as the company's worth has to be spread mungs that many more shares.

CMKX just paid a dividend and diluted the stock in the same week.


so my question is: why the hell are we getting the dividend if we have no income and have to dilute to get it, and how does this benefit the company if they are hurting the pps?

And what are these dividends really going to cost us in the end?


quote:
Originally posted by GHOST:
Penny Trader
Heck No:
I sure wish
I did!
But just because they
didn't give us their master
plan doesn't mean there isn't
one!
Don't get me wrong, I'm up in the
air on this my self, but you never know!

[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by GHOST on :
 
Penny Trader:
May be they are backward aces.
I'm not even going to pretend
like I know their thoughts!
Tell you the truth. I've never
played one like this in my life!
I just can't imagine how
its going to play out!
I still think there will be great
news by the time of their party.
No one in their right mind would show
up at a party if they just screwed
some one over.
Well you guys take care and don't
bash to much and I will try not to
pump too much. I've get back to
the books.
(In the end we will be either or
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Hey, TradingWizard, you missed us not missing it.
More free shares of GEMM, I'll take it.
However, penny's question is legitimate. There isn't any answer to it, penny. This whole play defies logic. Record date is Oct 31, so does it really hurt to hold another few weeks?
God knows why these people do what they do. I still don't believe there is a "master plan", no one could have planned this mess.

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 16, 2004).]


Yeah you are correct Will, oh well I cannot be right all the time. I don't mind free shares either, just everytime I go to my account and see my 33 shares makes me laugh, what a ratio.

On the other hand, it reminds me quantum physics vs Newtonian physics --- in this case CMKX is like quantum physics, which in theory still works. So I am in this game for a long haul.

By the way, nice talking to you again. Its been a while. I downgraded myself to lurker position, since got other things to do.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
P-T
My guess is that is why it's not in cash divvys.
I believe the divvys are happening for a reason.
I think nobody here has ever seen anything like this.
It's hard to know what to expect when you're talking about the unexpected.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:

Dividends are paid on a normal stock when a company is proffitable. CMKX does not have any form of income outside of dilution.

i fail to see the viability in this theroy of paying dividends with no income.
]


CASH dividends "are paid on a normal stock when a company is proffitable." [sic]

STOCK dividends are paid by a company that may be divesting into other companies to correct an incredibly complex and adverse market situation.

IMO

 


Posted by will on :
 
You're right, I don't know. No one else does either. You know why? Because, CMKX is not forthcoming with any news that points to any logical end. Unless, of course, you buy into that DrD/Sterling nonsense.
The fact that you tell me I can't prove there isn't a master plan does not make it certain that there is one. As much as I can't disprove it, you can't prove it either.
Look back a few pages on this thread for Diamond Discoveries International Corp's sample report, or just look at the Diagem's report on their sampling. Recall CMKX's report back in June. You see a difference? The others were much more detailed and complete. The lack of being forthcoming and detailed doesn't make you curious as to why? Now, if they had a monster find, I might agree, but when it turned out to be two micro diamonds, well I see why they weren't forthcoming.

quote:
Originally posted by GHOST:
Will:
How do you know what
is going on behind what
they let out and didn't let
out?
Any body running a business
has a plan.

"God knows why these people do what they do. I still don't believe there is a "master plan", no one could have planned this mess."

[This message has been edited by GHOST (edited October 16, 2004).]



 


Posted by GHOST on :
 
Will:
I actually agree with you!
Now I have to leave you with
the same thing as above.
Take care and smile money
don't matter after we are gone!!

May be they are backward aces.
I'm not even going to pretend
like I know their thoughts!
Tell you the truth. I've never
played one like this in my life!
I just can't imagine how
its going to play out!
I still think there will be great
news by the time of their party.
No one in their right mind would show
up at a party if they just screwed
some one over.
Well you guys take care and don't
bash to much and I will try not to
pump too much. I've get back to
the books.
(In the end we will be either or
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
your assuming they will show at the party or even have the party i can see it being canceled unless somethign ral drastic happens between now and then.

if they do have the party all they are going to do is blow smoke up your azz and tell you nothing just more carrots hanging all over the place. lets face it if they had anythgin good to tell us it would be out ands on our laps right now.

there is no reason for a party other then to spend more money that the company doesnt have, so they will hav eto dilute again. Dilution is only income for Casavant and company not for us nothing to party about there.

have fun if you go.


quote:
Originally posted by GHOST:
Will:
I actually agree with you!
Now I have to leave you with
the same thing as above.
Take care and smile money
don't matter after we are gone!!

May be they are backward aces.
I'm not even going to pretend
like I know their thoughts!
Tell you the truth. I've never
played one like this in my life!
I just can't imagine how
its going to play out!
I still think there will be great
news by the time of their party.
No one in their right mind would show
up at a party if they just screwed
some one over.
Well you guys take care and don't
bash to much and I will try not to
pump too much. I've get back to
the books.
(In the end we will be either or



 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
whats the point in the buy. they buy all these shares and give them to us. what value does this give the company?

they are not gaining any more of the company that way they just bought them and gave them away basically. Ill take them but i dont see any economical advantage to this move other then to convince share holders to hold thier shares.

please someone explain to me how this is a good move and economically responsible of the company to do this.

as well not how many dividends are we suppose to be seeing? this seems like the 4th one i have heard of but i have only seen one show up in my account.

Please enlighten me on this.



If you subscribe to the naked short theory then this is another play to force the MMs to cover or come up with dividend shares.

Another possibility is that there may be other elements to the deal that have not been made public that does benifit the company.

It's also possible that CMKX is hoping this will bring the pps up and they can dump more stock on the market, enough to cover the $500k paid for the GEMM shares.

I doubt any of us know what's really going on, but these are just a few possibilities.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
You guys must enjoy beating dead horses. None of your questions are going to get answered by speculation on a chat board. Everyone should relax and wait for PRs. Guessing just doesnt get it...
Ed

 
Posted by will on :
 
"If you subscribe to the naked short theory then this is another play to force the MMs to cover or come up with dividend shares."

I don't understand how the UCAD dividend didn't force the accounting of NSS. It was a divivdend paid to O/S with restricted shares. How could it not have forced the covering on 10/6/04?
I need the "squeeze of the century", that didn't happen with UCAD dividend explained to me in forthright plain language. Without any conspiracy theories that include the SEC, DTC, MM's, UCAD and CMKX. There is no way in hell there was a deal struck to cover an astronomical amount of naked shorts between the SEC, DTC, ...and the rest.
After the UCAD dividend the NSS was completely discredited when the PPS of CMKX went down. The evidence of a squeeze is upward pressure on the PPS, the UCAD dividened and accounting of CMKX shares caused the opposite effect on CMKX'x PPS.
Please, let's not stick to something that has been debunked, and proven to be nonexistent.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
CMKM Diamonds Inc, CMKX.pk http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=CMKX&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc, UCAD.ob http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=UCAD&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

Junia Minind Corp, GEMM.pk http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=GEMM&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

El Capitan Precious Metals, ECPN.ob http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=ECPN&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

United Carina Resources, UCA.V http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=UCRUF&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

Saint George Metals, Inc, SGGM.pk http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=SGGM&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56
_________________________________________________________________________
EXCEPT CMKX, all the other co. charts sure look like there was a run for cover to me.

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by penny-trader:
quote:
Common guys someone in here must be able to answer my question. everyone is quick to shoot me down as bringing negative to the board but no one will answer a question that would bring clearity to many im sure.
can anyone answer my question?

Dividends are paid on a normal stock when a company is proffitable. CMKX does not have any form of income outside of dilution.

i fail to see the viability in this theroy of paying dividends with no income.


Ammunition against the massive class action lawsuit that occurs when the real CMKX is exposed? It's another way for them to say "we had the shareholders interests at heart" when the exact opposite is the truth.


 


Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
The scam is almost complete. UC is days away from making his getaway in the CMKXtreme motorcycle, he's going to hide at the party in vegas, under the punchbowl table, where nobody would expect him to hide.

Vicki (SGGM IR/Casasvant familiy member) went to ty's funeral (ty, rb poster, mentioned in green barron release) to fool us all into thinking that they care.

They also got debeers and kensington to release this to make us believe that there are actually diamonds in the area:

"Kensington/De Beers optimistic

At a tour of the Kensington/De Beers Diamond Project in the Fort a la Corne area recently, project executives stated nothing but optimism for further exploration of diamonds in the region.

By Colin McGarrigle of the Journal

Melfort Journal — October 12, 2004 At a tour of the Kensington/De Beers Diamond Project in the Fort a la Corne area recently, project executives stated nothing but optimism for further exploration of diamonds in the region.
The 2004-05 evaluation and exploration program has been given a $7.62 million budget, representing the largest and most aggressive exploration program to date for the project.
"We have found diamonds and we know that there's many more," stated Richard Moleneux, president and CEO of De Beers Canada.
Current exploration has shown a significant deposit of kimberlite in the region, and tests have indicated that the grade of diamonds found range from seven to 16 carets per hundred tonnes.
"This is a new era for Kensington. If everything goes as well as we hope, this could be the largest, low-cost, long-life diamond site in the world," explained Robert McCallum, president of Kensington Resources.
"Kensington shares will definitely be a lot higher than they are today," McCallum stated with optimism.
With the large exploration budget, the goal now is to establish a Task Force to identify new goals and review the strategy for advancement at the diamond project.
Moleneux added that the demand for diamonds had slipped in previous years, but that there seems to be a resurgance in the markets recently.
"It is a hugely complicated process to sell diamonds, but the demand for diamonds is now growing ahead of supply," stated Moleneux.
"And a project like this takes on a new importance for diamonds," he added.
While the group is still in the exploration stage, McCallum stated that they are looking at ways to accelerate the project as quickly as possible.
A feasibility study will be carried out within three to four years, according to McCallum, and if the study gives the go-ahead, he stated that the project could have three to four large open-pit mines within a few years.
Even though it could be several years before any actual mining takes place, McCallum and Moleneux were stating that they would be seeking ways to maximize the local work force in any way possible."

lol
 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Enough about Divys....Time for a Rumour.....
Rumour going around Prince Albert is all people connected with the drilling of the Carolyn Pipe, to the Lab Techs that examined the samples have been sworn to silence. There gift for this is coming in the form of a huge bonus.

Sounds like a reality TV show.
PRRM should produce a show like this...LOL
 


Posted by will on :
 
child, isn't the share price of the parent company not the dividened company suppose to rise in a sqeeze? Are you saying this is some type of double naked short squeeze with a duble reverse?
Just give it to me in plain forthright language. The fact that the dividened stock's price rose is NOT evidence of the "squeeze of the century". The UCAD dividened was restricted so it wasn't bought to put in our accounts.
Facts are facts, and NO ONE has explained the absence of this squeeze phenomena. the major proponents used the excuse of excessive bashing here to escape accountability of the failed squeeze. the best they could do is try to convince you that UCAD was bought to cover the dividend, false, they were restricted shares. They offered a deal between regulatory agencies, SEC, DTC, and CMKX, UCAD, and MM's, nonsense, didn't/couldn't happen. Lastly that it is still to come, impossible the UCAD dividend answered the NSS theory. It didn't ocurr.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
CMKM Diamonds Inc, CMKX.pk http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=CMKX&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc, UCAD.ob http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=UCAD&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

Junia Minind Corp, GEMM.pk http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=GEMM&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

El Capitan Precious Metals, ECPN.ob http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=ECPN&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

United Carina Resources, UCA.V http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=UCRUF&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56

Saint George Metals, Inc, SGGM.pk http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=SGGM&duration=2-6-8-0-0-56
_________________________________________________________________________
EXCEPT CMKX, all the other co. charts sure look like there was a run for cover to me.



 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, you see the problem with that is:
All the windbag geniuses, DrD/Sterling types will force bullsh|t in your head, and make you believe the best is yet to come. The reality of the situation makes you right, there's nothing to be said or done. We are at the mercy of ambiguity and specualtion. You don't have to contribute, ever consider we just might like specualting, and arguing our points. It's called entertainment. I'm sure there are other places where only good pie-in-the-sky crap is discussed.

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
You guys must enjoy beating dead horses. None of your questions are going to get answered by speculation on a chat board. Everyone should relax and wait for PRs. Guessing just doesnt get it...
Ed


 


Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
..isn't the share price of the parent company not the dividened company suppose to rise in a sqeeze? Are you saying this is some type of double naked short squeeze with a duble reverse?
Just give it to me in plain forthright language. The fact that the dividened stock's price rose is NOT evidence of the "squeeze of the century". The UCAD dividened was restricted so it wasn't bought to put in our accounts.
Facts are facts, and NO ONE has explained the absence of this squeeze phenomena.

CMKX's T/a is 1st global.
Jeff is the guys name who handles cmkx.
I'd like to see you give him a call and ask him all these questions, see if you can get anything out of him. Plenty of pro-cmkx'ers have talked to him but I haven't heard of any anti-cmkx'ites who've talked to him.

I dont know what will come of your conversation but it should at least be interesting.

1ST GLOBAL STOCK TRANSFER, LLC 2431 Tech Center Court Suite 106 Las Vegas, NV 89128
Phone: (702) 656-4919 Facsimile: (702) 304-0634

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
child, isn't the share price of the parent company not the dividened company suppose to rise in a sqeeze? Are you saying this is some type of double naked short squeeze with a duble reverse?
Just give it to me in plain forthright language. The fact that the dividened stock's price rose is NOT evidence of the "squeeze of the century". The UCAD dividened was restricted so it wasn't bought to put in our accounts.
Facts are facts, and NO ONE has explained the absence of this squeeze phenomena. the major proponents used the excuse of excessive bashing here to escape accountability of the failed squeeze. the best they could do is try to convince you that UCAD was bought to cover the dividend, false, they were restricted shares. They offered a deal between regulatory agencies, SEC, DTC, and CMKX, UCAD, and MM's, nonsense, didn't/couldn't happen. Lastly that it is still to come, impossible the UCAD dividend answered the NSS theory. It didn't ocurr.


I don't know,that's why I said 'to me'.
Just sure is something how simular to UCAD those charts looked.
Some October surprises I couldn't pull up the charts on was for Kensington Resources, KRT.V
and Shore Gold, SGF.V on Pinksheets.
But somewhere else I saw them they looked the same as well.
So,it's all just a coincidence then?

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
First of all, I am not an antiCMKX'er. I own the stock, and have hopes of it doing well. I am an anti-pie-in-the-sky, bullsh|t theory person. You may believe these wild theories and explanations and touts to purchase more, but I don't. These people are stuck in this for $25,000+, and have seen their investment errode to less than 50% of that $25,000. It is in their best interest to spin this positve. Positive is one thing, but fantastic claims is another. I'm sure you have read all of their theories, including their .51+ buy out offer yet to come. They get lucky and hit one thing that comes to pass, and everyone applauds them as being geniuses, they forget the other 99 predictions that never happened. Those predictions are just lost to time and the archived threads.
Me calling jesus isn't going to change the O/S, or the fact that a squeeze didn't ocurr.

quote:
Originally posted by Ruh420:
CMKX's T/a is 1st global.
Jeff is the guys name who handles cmkx.
I'd like to see you give him a call and ask him all these questions, see if you can get anything out of him. Plenty of pro-cmkx'ers have talked to him but I haven't heard of any anti-cmkx'ites who've talked to him.

I dont know what will come of your conversation but it should at least be interesting.

1ST GLOBAL STOCK TRANSFER, LLC 2431 Tech Center Court Suite 106 Las Vegas, NV 89128
Phone: (702) 656-4919 Facsimile: (702) 304-0634



 


Posted by will on :
 
child, there is no denying the jv companies are doing well, and there is no question that CMKX isn't, (PPS-wise).
By definition the "squeeze of the century" was to send CMKX flying, not the others, so we could sell to the MM's to cover their naked shorts. It isn't/wasn't defined by us buying the dividend companies to realize our gain.
The proof is that it didn't happen, plain and simple. It can not be justified or said to have happened because affiliate company's price has risen. Again, by definition the price of CMKX should have risen, and it declined, just the opposite. That says to me, NO NSS. Now if you believe that it is still possible please expalin it to me. I shouldn't have to speak to a T/A or jesus to know how it did happen or will still happen. People that are proponents of a this theory should be able to explain it, clearly, plainly, and completely. The price of CMKX did not go up astronomically, so logic forces me to conclude it didn't happen, and the fact that there was an accounting and dividend paid to all O/S CMKX stock, forces me to conclude it doesn't exist.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Good afternoon folks!

How many of you remember what UCAD said about GEMM in their 10K or 10Q (don't remember which) re Juina? Seems to me they said it was not productive, minor mining by locals, etc. Not a good picture. If I can find it, I will post it.
********************************************
someone wrote:

those that have thousands and thousands of dollars invested in this will be sitting on the edge of their seats for years to coming hoping for a train to come in holding their money. the problem is that that train doesn't exist.
-----------------------

LOL I have a train that will hold every bit of that money!

*******************************************

penny-trader questioned the dividend from a company without money. Is it possible they are just going to use it as another diversion so as to not release the issued and outstanding? That way, for those that do not buy it, I/O is still an unknown rather than about 780 billion shs.

Ghost, re your question about DDing the rumors, it is an impossible quest with CMKX.
One just has to assume that everything, including their releases, is the equivalent of a rumor or speculation.

 


Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
First of all, I am not an antiCMKX'er. I own the stock, and have hopes of it doing well. I am an anti-pie-in-the-sky, bullsh|t theory person. You may believe these wild theories and explanations and touts to purchase more, but I don't. These people are stuck in this for $25,000+, and have seen their investment errode to less than 50% of that $25,000. It is in their best interest to spin this positve. Positive is one thing, but fantastic claims is another. I'm sure you have read all of their theories, including their .51+ buy out offer yet to come. They get lucky and hit one thing that comes to pass, and everyone applauds them as being geniuses, they forget the other 99 predictions that never happened. Those predictions are just lost to time and the archived threads.
Me calling jesus isn't going to change the O/S, or the fact that a squeeze didn't ocurr.


Maybe anti-cmkx'ite was a bad choice, didn't mean to get you on the defense. But I'm not calling anybody a realist cuz it's a frickin pinksheet, it can be a scam just as easily as a legit co, easier even. You know this.

I dont care about these people with $25k in cmkx, they dont confont me, if they spent more then they could afford, that's a real good learning experience lol. I've seen these people on other boards asking if they should take loans, thankfully for them most of the replies are level headed.

I do believe that with your frame of mind, that a conversation with the TA might shed some light.

I'm on the fence about all the theories, we'll know soon enough who was wrong and who was right.

The otc is a billion $ +++ market and where there is money involed there are a lot of shady characters. You can't refute that. So the pinksheets are pretty(very?) shady, seems the mm's have a lot of power and can be just as shady.

Maybe wallace will give him a call if you dont want to... I just want to see what comes of the conversation. I dont even understand it all, dont think anyone can, and I rarely follow the stock messiah posts anymore, but I'm keeping my shares.
 


Posted by wadeinni on :
 
With all do respect, to all hardcore CMKX fans and stockholders. Wake up and smell the coffee, ed19363 is right every single on of you must really love to beat dead horses. stop wasting valuable time and space on this board. Stop the speculation and rumors it AIN'T helping the rest of us who are making money here on real profitable pennies. When there's a good pr about CMKX it will come and the stock will move.

I'm no hater but this is ridiculous, the other day I banked lovely on KWNS JRVR and EWMD and I mean lovely. There are a few sensable people on this board but they ain't on this thread. We want to make money I cringe everytime I see an addition to this post.

Please make sensable posts like the good Dardadog and some others here. Good bye
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Ruh420,

I don't much care what JEFF or any MM might say about CMKX. My opinion of any MM is neutral. As far as I am concerned, each is no different from any other businessman in that they are trying to earn money and make a living. Both good and bad probably exist.

Will get back to you folks later.


 


Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
the horse has long been turned to dog food and eventually left in a pile on somebody's lawn. lol

I think with these story stocks (pinksheet co's, where the outcome is seen as either: HUGE or HUGE FRICKIN SCAM)... they can turn into the 3rd great internet debate IMO.

The other two being religion and politics, where everyone has their point of view and will argue it til death.

imo of course

and I think we all made $ this week, I know will had a double this week, wish I was in on that. I played lenf and nsol a couple times for some $, but missed the doubles on both of em.
 


Posted by will on :
 
I have a cure for your cringing. Don't read it. I had EWMD too, so you see it's possible to entertain oneself here, and make some money too.

quote:
Originally posted by wadeinni:
With all do respect, to all hardcore CMKX fans and stockholders. Wake up and smell the coffee, ed19363 is right every single on of you must really love to beat dead horses. stop wasting valuable time and space on this board. Stop the speculation and rumors it AIN'T helping the rest of us who are making money here on real profitable pennies. When there's a good pr about CMKX it will come and the stock will move.

I'm no hater but this is ridiculous, the other day I banked lovely on KWNS JRVR and EWMD and I mean lovely. There are a few sensable people on this board but they ain't on this thread. We want to make money I cringe everytime I see an addition to this post.

Please make sensable posts like the good Dardadog and some others here. Good bye


Oh yea! With all due respect.

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Will, I didn't buy stock in this for a "squeeze".But I didn't buy it to get "cellar boxed" in either.And in the boat I float, divvys and fs'(come on keep 'em commin'),I wouldn't care if this ended up in court.With people like this guy http://www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s72303/rshapiro122403.htm

Alot of info comes up when serch the SEC website with "naked short shares".See... http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/txt-srch-sec?text=naked+short+shares

 


Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Ruh420,

I don't much care what JEFF or any MM might say about CMKX. My opinion of any MM is neutral. As far as I am concerned, each is no different from any other businessman in that they are trying to earn money and make a living. Both good and bad probably exist.

Will get back to you folks later.


Hey Wallace,
Actually talking about a guy by the name of Jeff, he works for 1st global as cmkx's t/a.

I've seen posts on boards where he's mentioned ucad divy's and cmxk shares and talked with people about naked shares etc, and I figured a conversation between him and one of you guys might be beneficial to our view of the situation.



 


Posted by will on :
 
No one denies naked shorting goes on with stocks. That isn't the question. Don't take the general arguement that shorting exists and apply it to a particular. It happens, and I believe it happens in general on a large scale.
CMKX paid a restricted dividend 10/06/04 of UCAD stock. They were restricted and could not be purchased by MM's and placed in everyone's account. There was no or very little shorting on CMKX because every O/S had to be accounted for and paid. There was no rush to cover because the PPS went from .0002 to .0003, and back to, and holding at .0002, flirting with .0001. By virtue of the proponents definition of a NSS, of a squeeze, keep in mind, their definition, not mine, the price of CMKX should have soared astronomically. I am sure if you reviewed past threads you will find exactly how they explained this meteoric rise in price was to ocurr. Now, by their own definition, an accounting of O/S has come to past without the expected result. What does logic tell them? That UCAD's rise in price was the evidence? That the SEC, DTC, CMKX, UCAD, and MM's made a deal? That the fact that it didn't should be ignored, and it will happen. If it existed should not the UCAD dividend exposed it? Can anyone answer that question?

 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
so after a whole day no one can tell me how issuing dividends from a company not making money is a good thing.

all i got was naked short theories.

so i still have to continue with my feeling that this is not a viable thing for a company to do. it makes no sense other then to trick people into buying more shares. and that is the only thing that makes sense they have 300 billion more shares to sell. so you have to make it look attractive somehow.

lets face it how do you convince people to lock into a stock that you cant buy unless you pay .0003 and will not sell unless you list it for .0001?
you give them shares that are worth 10% of their shares and they can only recoup 50% less their trading cost if they want out.

that is a hell of a deal for Casavant. lol

this isn't investing this is entrapment. kinda like sticking you male member in a pickle slicer and hoping for the best!! either way you are guaranteed one thing. your going to come up short. lol


 


Posted by will on :
 
Wow penny! Kind of drastic there, man.
I think the naked short theory has been thoroughly proven to be a myth.
Keep in mind there is more than the GEMM dividend attached to CMKX, you have to adjust your 10% upwards. How much, I don't know, and I refuse to calcualte it. LOL!
I said from the end of last month I will give it until the end of October, because some folks that are heavily invested in CMKX really are convinced by then we will be happily surprised and rewarded.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
so after a whole day no one can tell me how issuing dividends from a company not making money is a good thing.
all i got was naked short theories.

Did you miss these?

highwaychild
Member posted October 16, 2004 12:59            
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P-T
My guess is that is why it's not in cash divvys.
I believe the divvys are happening for a reason.
I think nobody here has ever seen anything like this.
It's hard to know what to expect when you're talking about the unexpected.

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
Dividends are paid on a normal stock when a company is proffitable. CMKX does not have any form of income outside of dilution.

i fail to see the viability in this theroy of paying dividends with no income.
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CASH dividends "are paid on a normal stock when a company is proffitable." [sic]

STOCK dividends are paid by a company that may be divesting into other companies to correct an incredibly complex and adverse market situation.

IMO
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
I'm not overly concerned as i have no money invested the way i see it. I had 5 million shares from .0001 and sold off 3 million at .0008
so i turned 300 dollars into 2400 dollars and kept 2 million shares.

i don't mind the free dividends either but i just don't understand why I am getting these from a company that is not making any money. I can see them buying into other companies for the rights to other claims, but i don't understand them giving them away again.

so my 2 million shares will sit in my account and either make me some money years down the road maybe or i will die with them in my account as they will not be worth the commission to sell them.

ill treat them as a lottery ticket. as that is about the chances i see in them making me anymore cash.

thanks for the past gains CMKX you have been my biggest percentage gainer ever.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by will:
Wow penny! Kind of drastic there, man.
I think the naked short theory has been thoroughly proven to be a myth.
Keep in mind there is more than the GEMM dividend attached to CMKX, you have to adjust your 10% upwards. How much, I don't know, and I refuse to calcualte it. LOL!
I said from the end of last month I will give it until the end of October, because some folks that are heavily invested in CMKX really are convinced by then we will be happily surprised and rewarded.


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
yes I seen them but they did not answer my question. they just posed a couple more theories

quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Did you miss these?

highwaychild
Member posted October 16, 2004 12:59            



 


Posted by will on :
 
"STOCK dividends are paid by a company that may be divesting into other companies to correct an incredibly complex and adverse market situation."

What would that market situation be? We know it isn't a NSS. Proven not to exist by virtue of the UCAD restricted dividend.
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
yes I seen them but they did not answer my question. they just posed a couple more theories


What did you expect? All we HAVE are theories right now. And theories ARE possible answers, aren't they?
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:

What would that market situation be? We know it isn't a NSS. Proven not to exist by virtue of the UCAD restricted dividend.


Is it possible UC said that he would accept UN-restricted shares from the MMs for HIS new 300 billion shares? And THAT's the UCAD that they were buying this past week?
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
hey show me an example of another company that places dividends in the hands of the investors when they have no income.

then i will consider the theory.

I figure this big lawyer Glen is only there to advise UC on how to get out of his mess with out going to jail.

>THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION<

quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
What did you expect? All we HAVE are theories right now. And theories ARE possible answers, aren't they?


 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
yes I seen them but they did not answer my question. they just posed a couple more theories


Are you really expecting one of us to give you a definitive answer? Only Urban and his confidants can give you that. All anyone here can do is offer theories.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Will, you are right about one thing...this board can be more entertaining than some three-ring circuses I've been to....just so we dont get stepped on by the elephant !!!
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Well, you see the problem with that is:
All the windbag geniuses, DrD/Sterling types will force bullsh|t in your head, and make you believe the best is yet to come. The reality of the situation makes you right, there's nothing to be said or done. We are at the mercy of ambiguity and specualtion. You don't have to contribute, ever consider we just might like specualting, and arguing our points. It's called entertainment. I'm sure there are other places where only good pie-in-the-sky crap is discussed.



 


Posted by will on :
 
I doubt it very much. See that's the type answer you get when one of these fantastic theories fail. Some type of situation that is remotely possible and not customary. Do you really think companies negotiate with regulatory agencies, and market makers routiniely. This is the only stock in the history of mankind that do all these fantastic negotiations. Things like that happen all the time, right! I'm sorry, it is just too much to ask me to believe.

quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Is it possible UC said that he would accept UN-restricted shares from the MMs for HIS new 300 billion shares? And THAT's the UCAD that they were buying this past week?


 


Posted by will on :
 
What does "get stepped on by the elephant" mean? There is some type of consequence, penalty for expressing an opinion? ed, seriously if it disturbs you to read this thread, then why do it?
What are you telling us? We shouldn't question fantastic claims regarding the future of CMKX? We shouldn't look at this thing from a realist point of view?
I for one believe folks have a responsiblity here, when someone reads one of these fantastic theories, they just might buy into that nonsense, and throw money or more money away. The faithful usually say things like, "and I'm still buying as long as this is on sale". I've seen it said at .0005, .0004, .0003, and .0002. I think to offer a sober real side of this is healthy. I also think asking question, whether they are rhetorical or can be answered, allows peoeple to examine the situation a little more closely before getting in deeper based on hopes pumped by someone covering their collective investment asses.

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Will, you are right about one thing...this board can be more entertaining than some three-ring circuses I've been to....just so we dont get stepped on by the elephant !!!


 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Never mind, will....no need to get testy...I just hope CMKX pans out.
 
Posted by will on :
 
No one is getting testy.
Seems to me we were told :
"You guys must enjoy beating dead horses. None of your questions are going to get answered by speculation on a chat board. Everyone should relax and wait for PRs. Guessing just doesnt get it..."
"Will, you are right about one thing...this board can be more entertaining than some three-ring circuses I've been to....just so we dont get stepped on by the elephant !!!"
After the first quip I offered an explanation that it just might be entertainment for some of us, then you three ring circused me. Think you were being the wiseguy. Why not let people have fun. I didn't appreciate subtly being to told to shut up.

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Never mind, will....no need to get testy...I just hope CMKX pans out.


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
we havent gotten testy yet. you where the one that refered to us as a 3 ring circus.
funny how you can make statements like that and then you make a statement like this when asked to explain yourself.

I hope to win the lottery to one day but i know that that is not likely to happen.

i also hope that CMKX is going to pan out but i do look at this like a lottery as well and realise that it is quite likely not going to give us a payday.

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Never mind, will....no need to get testy...I just hope CMKX pans out.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
'A diamond in the rough'.The Science Channel has a show on diamonds on right now.Pretty good stuff.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will wrote:

I will give it until the end of October
-------------------------------------------

Will - Don't you think that new div date gives the pumpers another way to speculate about all the events and facts? I do!!

Cannot imagine what it must be like being stepped on by an elephant. LOL I was charged by an elephant in Africa and almost shiit my pants when it got about 10 feet from our vehicle. Feels like Jurasic Park with Rex chasing you. Couldn't even get my camera in focus to take a picture of that "bull" elephant. Do have one of him before he charged.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Wallace, I don't think the new dividend pay date of Nov 30, gives them and extension on their outlandish claims. The reason I site end of October as the deadline, drop dead date, is because of the Vegas blowout. That topogigo guy at the races told me, "you wait, buddy, wait till the end of October, you'll see", and that self proclaimed minister, elcamino, told me, "I can't tell you what they got, but they got"! He was also alluding to the end of October for shareholders to be rewarded. I will say this for him, he indicated that the real value here was in future royalties, generation money, he said. I don't know if that meant enough money for generations to live off of, or it will take genrations to get to my grandson. Also posters that used to post here referenced the rekoning to be by the end of October.
However, you're right the dividend pay date being out another six weeks will allow them to move that holy target again.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will wrote:

I will give it until the end of October



 


Posted by will on :
 
I missed most of it, child, but thanks. The last part I saw was the guy regretting he didn't buy more shares. LOL! I ain't gonna do it. That was real past tense, this is fictional future tense. Show me the diamonds, and I will apologize for ever doubting these people, till then it is a fiction story.
The science channel will repeat the show probably, I'll look for it again.
I just checked it's on again at 10 PM my time, CDST.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
'A diamond in the rough'.The Science Channel has a show on diamonds on right now.Pretty good stuff.

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 16, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
This is the basis of the documentary "Diamonds in the Rough,"
http://members.fcc.net/krajick/

And yea Will,it is on again here in about 15 mins.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Gonna watch it child, thanks for highlighting it for us. I bookmarked that page too, I'll read it later.
Maybe I'll get diamond fever if I watch this show.
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
This is the basis of the documentary "Diamonds in the Rough,"
http://members.fcc.net/krajick/

And yea Will,it is on again here in about 15 mins.



 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Now that was good info.Thanks interesting and good show.I will send a copy to CMKX might help.LOL Good Luck
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
i figure that what is happening here with CMKX and the dividends is that they are buying inflated priced shares, and giving them to share holders as restricted shares. in doing so they are liquidating the cash that we gave them. convincing us to hold the shares by giving us the shares. that once they are unrestricted they wont be worth anything.

legal form of taking our money and giving us something for our money. the problem is that they will devaluate quicker then a used car in a bowl of salt. thus the perfect scam. somehow behind the scenes Casavant will pull a generous salery form these companies and we are left with nothing to show but a bunch of useless stocks.

if they where to throw the same amount of money at drilling and exploration on the land that we already have the rights to, then they might actually make money. Somethign is wrong with the whole idea of this company. why spend money when we are not making money?

think about it.

if my theory is right this is one brilliant scam. way to go Casavant.


That would be!! Holy Socks!
 


Posted by glfpimp on :
 
Just found out some information, thought I would share it with you guys. Every year, there are about 8-9 billion dollars worth of diamonds recovered....TOTAL-between all companies. So, just think about what these means for CMKX stock-what they would need to do to make this thing extremely valuable.
 
Posted by shadow on :
 
Watched a story last night on the Science Channel
regarding Diamond Mining in Canada.

It was a very interesting story about a guy name ?fifke? who was racing Debeers to find
a diamondiferous Kimberlite deposit in the
North West Territories in Canada.

It showed how he did his research and came to the conclusions he did... and most importantly how he conducted tests...

Eventually he found the mother-load... It
took 15 years to find and get the mine into
production... It is now producing $1M+ a day
in diamonds... and is run by ETAKI, fifke and
his partner are each 10% owners in the mine.

The differences I saw in what Fifke was doing and CMKX
is that he was constantly testing samples.
He did not have a lot of money so he created
new methods to sample.

This is a guy we should try to contact to
get his thoughts about our area and the 1.4Million acres of claims.

He is now worth $100M+ and spending more time
with his family. (according to the documentary.)

He did all of his analysis without drilling
a single hole but by surface samples.

The other interesting item was in the
early 90's before the big production plant was built they had some magnetic imaging done. There were only 2 anomolies on the
results... A large pipe (which is where they
mined) and a smaller pipe to the south east.

If Urban's imaging is correct and there are
300 anomolies in the small area that was surveyed this could be significant.

The Etaki mine was estimated at 60 Billion,
producing almost 1/2 Billion a year.


 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Everyone, This is from another board. It is Golden's post to the MM's. -Debi

This post is for the Market Maker . . . I come to you as a friend, because hey, lets face it . . . right now you could use one. A friend is a person who helps you see the wise choice in a situation, rather than the hustle that may help you just "get over".

Your in a bit of a situation right now, probably bigger than you thought. Unfortunately . . . up until just recently, you did not understand that something like this could ever happen to you. You have seen this situation a thousand times before and know the ins and out. Youve got backing . . . Major backing, and the big money isnt gonna let anything happen to you. Besides what "pink sheet" company is going to have the time or the resources to even begin to play by the rules of your game . . . Well, you see the answer to that one so we will move on.

Up until now you have been the King of the Hill, Top Dog . . . The Big kid on the Block . . . that is, Up Until Now. ALL PENNIES HAD TO BOW TO YOUR GREATNESS . . . that is UP UNTIL NOW.

CMKX threw you a curve ball and you werent ready for it. You want to swing now, but its a little too late. Its actually been a little too late, its just now you are starting to see that your about to be taken out of the game, so you are worried, maybe even a little desperate.

Your first intincts might be to ralley your cohorts . . . You might think "hey, we can figure this out, weve had tough times before". Well . . . probably not this time.

Believe me when I say that there are A LOT of people that would LOVE to see you be destroyed by your actions, and in all fairness, you would deserve what you recieved. Well, not me. You have one resource left . . . and its a major one. Im trying to help you play your last card accordingly so that your arrogance and ignorance do not bury you completely. I fear self destruction may be the path you would take as destruction is all you know. You treat others based on how you feel about yourself, so you must not know your value enough to save it, so let me help.

The only way to really be free from a wrong is to make it right. Call it karma, God . . .whatever you like. As you give, so shall you recieve . . . you can never escape that rule of the Universe. Believe me, I have tried.

As you face this situation, you may think you will be able to find a way out. However, we can see that your past judgement has not been so good as you are in the situation that you are in now. If your vision was so keen then you would have made better choices sooner. . . you have not.

So . . . here is my suggestion, you can take it or leave it. I have no real preference what you do, I feel in the end you will end up paying anyhow. I am only sharing what I see to be the wisest option. I said you had one resource and believe that to be true . . . your resource is money.

Cover . . . and Cover NOW, do not let it get any worse on yourselves. You have not called the game right up until this point and there is no reason to believe you will be able to start now. Yes it will cost you a lot of money. . . Yes you will be accountable for your actions. . . but you will survive it to play the game another day.(not by the same rules and hopefully learning from your mistakes) Making the choices you have made up until now, I cannot say with confidence that you will survive.

Now you may be afraid of the reprocussions of your actions and I feel for you. You see I had to learn, much like you, that people arent something you harm to make a profit. People are not dissposable. Peoples hopes and dreams are deep inner parts of them, that when damaged by what you have done, can be hurt for a very long time . . . perhaps even ruined. Unfortunatly you are about to feel that pain multiplied many times over because now the burden is yours to carry.

As you sit at your desk, look around you. You may have your coffee cup at hands length, perhaps your telephone, pictures of your kids or girlfriend. Look at the computer you take for granted and the long walk to the water cooler that you are able to take . . . and appreciate them because they are about to go away.

Do you think the bigshots that you work for give a damn about you? Im sorry, you have been mislead. Your freedom is about to be taken away from you if you play this game any further and I am begging you to understand this for your own good.

There is too much momentum behind this group. There is too much Love, Unity, Intelligence, Drive, Determination and LIGHT to stop this wave. The walls WILL come crashing down and there is only one way to lessen the blow. . . Use your only weapon, your only resource that you still have that will work in your favor . . . COVER NOW.

If you are a master at what you do then you will know when you have lost . . . KNOW.

The time is now to cover because it only gets worse from here. The people have spoken and you have had your day . . . your time is up, you had a good run but its now time to pay the piper. Im sorry it has come to this, but it was of your own doing. Save yourself and the dignity that you still have and do the right thing . . . you will be glad you did.

TEAM CMKX . . . YOU ROCK!!!!
golden

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29,000 Children die of starvation every day...but not on a day of hope....Visit the CMKX Day of Hope website to learn more and to make the CMKX day of hope a reality.
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Bob, The website I am talking about here is for the purpose of CMKX shareholders sponsoring children through World Vision and isn't a stock board. -Debi


Hi CMKX friends and family, I hope you will stop by the CMKX Day of Hope Board.

The CMKX Day of Hope is my dream to get 29,000 'Hope Child' kids from World Vision sponsored by CMKX shareholders. It has not yet been approved or disapproved by CMKX in any official way. I am hoping that Urban will respond officially and get behind this dream.

World Vision was one of the leading voices crying out for justice for those who were harmed by 'conflict diamonds'. When CMKX announced they were going to laser inscribe their Canadian diamonds, I already owned the stock. But I bought more. My thought at the time was God was going to bless this effort. I thought it would be poetic justice if the beneficiary of most of my gain from CMKX, went to World Vision who raised the world's awareness of those most hurt by the 'blood diamond' trade.

The number 29,000 is symbolic. I picked it because that is the number of children who die every day from starvation or hunger related diseases. It doesn't seem possible in our world of plenty that a child could die from not having enough nutritious food. But it happens all the time. Children die from diseases caused by drinking water with parasites and bacteria. For lack of simple vitamins, children go blind shortly after birth. More lose their lives for want of a vaccination. For $30 a month we can sponsor a child and help both them and their community get out of poverty forever.

Please use the special link for CMKX shareholders on the site to sponsor a World Vision Child. The transaction will be handled by World Vision and will be secure. World Vision has the highest standards of Financial Accountability and there is a seperate thread on the Day of Hope board for you to learn about it.

Personal Disclosure - I get a small honorarium from World Vision in my work with them. It has always been less than the cost of the children I have sponsored through them. I think I am running about a 90% loss ratio in what I receive versus what I give. The ratio may change but I hope to always be giving more to World Vision financially than I receive.

Sponsoring children is my life long passion and my motivation is love not money. Sincerest Thanks to all my fellow CMKX shareholders who can get behind this dream and I wish for you the best in your dreams too. -Debi Here is the link:
http://CMKXDayofHope.********s37.com


The Day of Hope board will help you learn about how AIDS is wiping out many communities accross the world and leaving millions of children orphaned with no one to care for them. I will attempt to communicate to you there how World Vision works to help these children and their communities through Child Sponsorship during your visit.


**IMPORTANT**

**If you should decide to sponsor a 'Hope Child' through World Vision please use the special link that is on the CMKXdayofhope home page that says in white Sponsor a child through World Vision by clicking here. Or the Sponsor a child through World Vision that is in white at the bottom of many pages. Or use this link:
http://tinyurl.com/656cl

That way we will have an accurate count of how many children CMKX shareholders have sponsored as a group since that board started.**

There is a thread there with excellent information on how World Vision handles money. They put out an annual report with audited financials. I have to love that! Thanks again.


 


Posted by netsec on :
 
"...I didn't appreciate subtly being to told to shut up."

What hypocrisy...a quote from Will the other day.

"Now get your mouth shut, quiet yourself, and move on, pal."

Sad.
 


Posted by will on :
 
That wasn't subtle. You deserved it.

quote:
Originally posted by netsec:
"...I didn't appreciate subtly being to told to shut up."

What hypocrisy...a quote from Will the other day.

"Now get your mouth shut, quiet yourself, and move on, pal."

Sad.



 


Posted by Binky on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shadow:
[B]Watched a story last night on the Science Channel
regarding Diamond Mining in Canada.

It was a very interesting story about a guy name ?fifke? who was racing Debeers to find
a diamondiferous Kimberlite deposit in the
North West Territories in Canada.
==========================================

You can check out current projects by Mr. Fipke here
http://www.cdnx.com/LCDB/LCDBSearch.asp?sPersonName=fipke&sType4=S&sMode=S&sBasketId=&Go%21.x=20&Go%21.y=11.

GLTA Binky
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
no offence but if i want to sponcer a child i will do it under my own name not under a company's name and let them get a big tax credit. Besides that if this company turns out to be a scam (not saying that it will or wont) the money donates to this cause will do nothing for your investment.

lets worry about getting the company to concentrate on getting their core sampling going. they already are throwing enough money into the wind now.

JMHO

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 

That was a good show last night.I liked the race for the staking of the mineral rights by helicopter.And the science behind the final sifting process.And the one ingredient of the final process Mr. Fipke wouldn't show the camera was interesting to me as well.Here was the prologue to the book 'Barron Lands' by Kevin Krajick about Mr. Fipke... http://members.fcc.net/krajick/prologue.htm

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Pretty good show. The guy was really determined. Took him 20 years running around nowhere Canada hammering rocks and sifting sand.
He should have realized there was an easier way. Buy a shell, stake some claims, and have a printing press.


Regarding the child sponsorship. I'm not going to go there. I know you were just kidding. Everyone has their way of doing good. No harm in anyone asking people to help. If you're inclined to donate, fine. If not, no harm, no foul. No need for me to be negative with someone trying to good, and help the unfortunate. Contrary to popular belief I do have compassion. I just don't have patience for fanatical people with outlandish claims and theories.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Hey Will,I'm a highwaychild.Would you sponsor me?

That was a good show last night.I liked the race for the staking of the mineral rights by helicopter.And the science behind the final sifting process.And the one ingredient of the final process Mr. Fipke wouldn't show the camera was interesting to me as well.Here was the prologue to the book 'Barron Lands' by Kevin Krajick about Mr. Fipke... http://members.fcc.net/krajick/prologue.htm



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I was just kiddin'.Wasn't too funny anyway.I wouldn't have wrote it if I wasn't a "child" myself.I took it off.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
My problems with that sponsor a child suggestion are twofold:

1) There are needy children here in our own country that need and should get the help FIRST.

2) If UC or any of his CMKX, UCAD, SGGM, GEMM or other comrades do get involved, I most certainly would not touch it with a ten foot pole...somehow, monies just might end up in undeserved pockets. IN MY CONSIDERED OPINION!!!

Sorry to disagree, but let's keep it here. I prefer causes at home first...including AIDS and HUNGER. Also, there are plenty of people living on the street or in vehicles that need help just as much.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Looks like WWJD is still on that NSS kick, no matter what the facts suggest otherwise. Probably because she cannot admit the mistakes of buying, buying and buying CMKX. Guessing she is well above $25,000 by now and way behind the 8-ball considering the current/last .0002 close. Good lesson, but should have known better.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Yea Wally,she's going to have a boat load of
UCAD and GEMM divvys someday.Too bad.LOL!
I wouldn't mind trading dividends with her.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, I noticed Golden's post too, but I beat the "squeeze of the century" to death for the last week or so. Didn't see any facts in his post to support his arguement of how a huge naked short exists. All he did was lecture the MM's about being evil people. They laughed on their way to the watercooler, and roared on their way to the urinal thinking, right, Golden shower boy.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Looks like WWJD is still on that NSS kick, no matter what the facts suggest otherwise. Probably because she cannot admit the mistakes of buying, buying and buying CMKX. Guessing she is well above $25,000 by now and way behind the 8-ball considering the current/last .0002 close. Good lesson, but should have known better.


 


Posted by will on :
 
child, add up all those dividends a person who bought 72M at an avg buy of .00035 has, ($25,200). Tell me what portin of the $25K that offsets. I would be surprised if it 20%. Say it is, that's $5000, (mostly restricted with an unknown unrestricted value), plus .0002 X 72M = $14,400 = $19,400. $25,000 - $19,400 = -$5,600.
Now would you like to be in that position, or are you better off where you are?

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Yea Wally,she's going to have a boat load of
UCAD and GEMM divvys someday.Too bad.LOL!
I wouldn't mind trading dividends with her.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
GatorMan,

Looked up your friend's site. Very interesting product line. Do you live near him?
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Will,I like where I'm at but I like these dividends.That too many digits for my calculator.
UCAD looks like a good company.R.W. seems to do what he says he's going to do.They're in good with GEMM, CMKX is in good with GEMM.

72,000,000 CMKX x0.0000096=691.2 x3(to 1 split OCT 25 maybe) gives her 2073.6 at say $21 a share that's $43,545.6 And still have CMKX, and GEMM divvys.
But my calculator dosn't do the whole .00000962.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I think investors believe there is a short because of

1. The company has publicly said they believe there is.

2. The trading of the stock can be explained as a short by behavior.


WWJD has good reason to believe in the theory. My own DD suggests there is a short.


I have come to the conclusion that it is worth a shot and should pay out. I have already made a profit before the divvy's.


There are four ways to win with this stock.

1. Sell on hype, there is enough to move the stock a couple of ticks. Most day traders who use technical analysis do this all the time.

Including old salts like wallace. You dont look at the future, you just realize there is volume and support and it moves.

2.You can wait for news of diamonds or uranium. Then you make good money long term.


3. You can sell on a short squeeze, which is actually caused by the market. Instead of letting the price run through natural volume it is suppressed through fake shares.

All a squeeze is is a natural correction that takes the stock to a level it should have achieved over time.


4. You hold for dividends, which so far has done very well for me. I can still sell after the divvy's and get my original investment back. Plus hold the divvy's. They may or may not pan out.

As a stock this could be a good pump job and still be a playable investment. It could be a real stock and a real company and go down the toilet.


Remember, all stocks are pumped, 100% of them, there is not a company in the world that says please dont buy my stock.
 


Posted by will on :
 
$21 a share????????
First it is restricted. Second after the split it will be lucky to be $5 a share. You don't need a better caculator, you need to calculate better.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Will,I like where I'm at but I like these dividends.That too many digits for my calculator.
UCAD looks like a good company.R.W. seems to do what he says he's going to do.They're in good with GEMM, CMKX is in good with GEMM.

72,000,000 CMKX x0.0000096=691.2 x3(to 1 split OCT 25 maybe) gives her 2073.6 at say $21 a share that's $43,545.6 And still have CMKX, and GEMM divvys.
But my calculator dosn't do the whole .00000962.



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I came up with $21 because that was the dollar amount R. W. said he would fs at.
So if UCAD saw $21 again her 2073.6 xanother 3:1 fs=6220.8 gremlins(UCAD shares)
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi, I thought I would check back. The children sponsored on the CMKX Day of Hope would be sponsored by an individual shareholder who would sponsor a child of their choosing and get their own tax deduction in their own name.

The monies would be 100% handled by World Vision who have the highest standards of financial integrity and transparency. They put out audited financial statements and submit to a board of their peers for the purpose of accountabilty.

Hi Wallace, I am glad to see you are back and were just on vacation. You are right about the poor here in our own country. Helping children here at home doesn't mean we cannot help children elsewhere. It isn't an either or proposition. It is a both and for many people.

For those who are feeling a little tight click this link:http://videodetective.com/home.asp?x=y&SpeedTestResults=1548.39&PublishedID=2822&AltID=&CustomerID=97135&WM=True&Ads=True&Play=TRUE

For those who are feeling all warm and fuzzy click this link:

This trailer starts with a 34 second ad for VOOM.
http://videodetective.com/home.asp?PublishedID=2822

I do think that there is a naked short in CMKX and we will see how it plays out. I am not concerned that the stock's price hasn't run yet. I am convinced that the research I did is sound and I expect to do exceptionally well with stock. I not only do not regret buying it, I have continued to accumulate shares. I also bought shares in the partner stocks, UCAD, GEMM, and CYXG.

I am looking forward to hearing Urban on the webcast tonight and hope to interview him for some radio broadcasts I will be doing in the near future. I will let you know if that is set to happen. Good luck to all and the opinions expressed by me about CMKX are mine and though you are welcome to share them do your own DD. IMO-Debi


 


Posted by will on :
 
OK, there's no arguing with fantasy. Can't disprove it, only logic tells us your estimates are fantastic, and unrealistic.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
I came up with $21 because that was the dollar amount R. W. said he would fs at.
So if UCAD saw $21 again her 2073.6 xanother 3:1 fs=6220.8 gremlins(UCAD shares)


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
RJR wrote:

Including old salts like wallace.
---------------------------------------
LOL You know that if you put salt on a bird's tail it cannot fly? Try it, you'll see it works on the wild ones only. LOL


WWJD

Good luck with CYXG. If it goes as did UCAD and GEMM, and as VAN suggested, it will be a money maker. Was tempted myself on that one.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
"I think investors believe there is a short because of

1. The company has publicly said they believe there is.

2. The trading of the stock can be explained as a short by behavior."

Raider I take you also believe this along with the "investors"?

"I do think that there is a naked short in CMKX and we will see how it plays out."

Debi also believes it is shorted.

Are these just beliefs, or is there a good sound reason for it. The UCAD forced an accounting of all CMKX shares without evidence of the "squeeze of the century". That says it wasn't shorted to the extreeme you believe. What do you base your opinion on that makes you to continue to say that? Of course, you can believe what you like, but I think an explanation of why you believe this would be nice. Convince me the UCAD dividend didn't account for the lack of the "squeeze of the century".
Can you offer any evidence besides, the company saying and the depressed PPS that a shorting of larger than usual proportions exists here?

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
The short can be covered by buying CMKX or UCAD.

The price of UCAD went up did it not? Was this due to the short?

People have wondered why some got unrestricted UCAD in place of restricted. The answer is pretty simple.

In a law suit plaintiff must show damages. If the MM's give the same value in something else then there are no monetary damages to suit over.


It is still a matter of criminal behavior, but as far as a liability suit unrestricted shares cover their rears.


The only question, when does it become more economically viable to buy CMKX? As the divvy's are given there will come a point where they have to cover us. We can keep divvying til they run out of money.
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
does anyone remember what the CIM divvy price ratio is by any chance?
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
try the calculator on your computer. go to start button then programs then accesories and you will find a calculator there that is capable of these calculations. i use mine all the time. i have set it up with a short cut key ctrl, alt, c very handy.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Will,I like where I'm at but I like these dividends.That too many digits for my calculator.
UCAD looks like a good company.R.W. seems to do what he says he's going to do.They're in good with GEMM, CMKX is in good with GEMM.

72,000,000 CMKX x0.0000096=691.2 x3(to 1 split OCT 25 maybe) gives her 2073.6 at say $21 a share that's $43,545.6 And still have CMKX, and GEMM divvys.
But my calculator dosn't do the whole .00000962.



 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i have not spoke with anyone that got unrestricted shares.

has anyone here recieved (as a dividend) unrestricted shares?

i know i recieved restricted shares.

lets have a hand count of those that received unrestricted shares

anyone?

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
The short can be covered by buying CMKX or UCAD.

The price of UCAD went up did it not? Was this due to the short?

People have wondered why some got unrestricted UCAD in place of restricted. The answer is pretty simple.

In a law suit plaintiff must show damages. If the MM's give the same value in something else then there are no monetary damages to suit over.


It is still a matter of criminal behavior, but as far as a liability suit unrestricted shares cover their rears.


The only question, when does it become more economically viable to buy CMKX? As the divvy's are given there will come a point where they have to cover us. We can keep divvying til they run out of money.


[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, I can't prove that anyone wound up with unrestricted shares, but since 10/06/04 I have heard no one say they did.
I have find that explanation highly unlikely, and not an acceptable explantion. There isn't any evidence that CMKX was shorted to the extent the proponents of the "squeeze of the century" believed.

 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Hey yea,Thanks Penny-Trader,didn't even know that was there.
 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
does anyone remember what the CIM divvy price ratio is by any chance?

check here for all offical dividend/distributuion dates/amounts...
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=cmkx

[This message has been edited by safeguard (edited October 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I know of several who said they received unrestricted.

Why?


I'm just showing one point that can point to a short. There are others.

I did not say how big it was. If you said there was no short then you would be denying the mm's a legal right to an orderly market.


There is always some short. The question is, at what pct of OS. A short of 20% of the OS could drive the price of a stock with a much smaller OS considerably.


Keep in mind, I don't care if there is a short or not. I'm just showing activity that would correspond to one.

I'm just showing how reasonable thinkers could arrive at that conclusion.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i have no idea how many outstanding ucad shares there are. but the theory is that NSS theory is that they are shorted to the tune of a trillion shares. i dotn believe there is enough ucad shares out there to cover with unrestricted shares. which means that someone somewhere is not getting their shares. since im not hearing anyone complaining that they have not recieved thier shares i have i hard time buying into this NSS theory.

to cover this short over 9500000 shares would need to be bought to cover the short. so to cover

the 20 day average on ucad is 279755 so to cover the short that would take 33.95 days of trading if the entire volume of the trading was to buy to cover these shorts.


i very highly doubt there is enough investors to buy that many shorted shares as well. I could be wrong on this thought.

look at the numbers and tell me if this is possible. really think about it


quote:
Originally posted by will:
Well, I can't prove that anyone wound up with unrestricted shares, but since 10/06/04 I have heard no one say they did.
I have find that explanation highly unlikely, and not an acceptable explantion. There isn't any evidence that CMKX was shorted to the extent the proponents of the "squeeze of the century" believed.


 


Posted by will on :
 
I accept that CMKX is/was shorted, but on no larger scale than any other stock. I am referring to the "squeeze of the century" theorist.
At this point I would have to say they are kidding themselves, and misleading others.
Anyone that did not receive shares, or received unrestricted shares, please speak up. I doubt very much there will be anyone, and if there is it would be a test of faith to believe them.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will, you have mail.

RJR,

1) Penny-trader picked up on exactly the same thing I have been thinking, that Will has been saying and that Bill1352 has been saying as well. If anyone got unrestricted shares, you sure as hell would have heard about it. Further, had there been any large quantity of NSS, considering the large number of CMKX shareholders, there is NO QUESTION that a considerable number of CMKX shareholders would have received unrestricted UCAD shares. No getting around that.

2) OK, then you might say that UCAD sold the MMs restricted or unrestricted shares. NO WAY!! They are too tight with CMKX and CMKX swears there are/were loads of NSS out there. First, it would be to UCAD's advantage not to make such a deal. Second, in view of the dealings back and forth, as well as Glenn representing both co's, it would not float. If unrestricted, the same logic above applies.

3) Remotely possible, but unlikely is that the MMs borrowed restricted shares from brokers' client's accounts. Unlikely because too many CMKX shareholders got their UCAD dividend shares all about the same time. Further, the brokers probably know about CMKX and all the questions regarding NSS. It would be rather stupid of them to loan them out and contribute to the illegalities surrounding NSS and get caught with their pants down later on down the road. Remember, these things can be tracked backward.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Here's something else (edited) I have taken from a post on another board which should provoke some thought (and my sentiments as well):

"first, you travel a lot with shortsharks, and they are the ultimate CMKX booster board on *******, rivaling any other board in sheer output pertaining to the glory of that stock ---- like drugs, alcohol abuse or some fundamentalist cults, one needs to get away from the substance before the mind can see clearly !

i am not driven (your words) to the point that i "hope" that CMKX is a scam, but i have never seen evidence that they are not, (and so much points to it) and theyve been around for a long time now --- logical people look at things logically ---- a rainbow does not appear to be a logical end to this tunnel !

as far as chips on the shoulder ---- i must state to the contrary, as i carry advice, some experience and hopefully a little wisdom on my shoulders (plural). i do not carry chips ---- that is for younger and more foolish men !

MY COMMENTS - Wallace

I doubt there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow portrayed by the CMKX management or by the avid promoters.

"Chips" are also used for gambling. Is that what UC is trying to tell all of you by handing out chips at the races? At the casinos, you will lose a hell of a lot more of them than you win. Guaranteed!! It has been set up against you that way.

 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Was anyone able to listen to the Webcast of Urban Casavant on Green Baron today. My link did not work and I was wondering if anyone else had the same problem. The webcast was suppose to be avilable to Green Baron members today.

------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
adidas24p
Diamond Hunter


member is online

Posts: 8

FULL INTERVIEW (text)
« Thread started on: Today at 18:19:34 »
Please only post discussion of the interview itself on the board tonight (Sunday).

Please do NOT post the audio link...

... in deference to Green Baron's choice of dissemination policy. This may simply allow Green Baron subscribers a better shot at getting to hear it, considering how overloaded the servers are already...
-BD
-----------------------------------------------------------

Interview Summary:

UCAD

- Things are really good, excited about 3rd quarter.
- Getting ready for shareholder appreciation party
- Says numbers in next quarter will be good
- Langley now trading on the london stock exchange / they will sell shares when they find the price good.
- They are bringing back more gold from yellow river and looking to aquiring more additional properties.
- Rachel neveda - neveda payed off what they owe in full. - Exploring pros and cons of excersing UCAD's options on property
- Shareholder party 29-31 in Vegas. Lots of fun. Get out there and meet all patient shareholders. They want to meet each one and tell them thanks for everything they helped urban and rendall move forward by investing in companies.
- Tremedous amount of intrest in the party. If someone wants to come you need to get registered.
- Four other events in vegas. Book rooms as early as possible. Oct. 20th deadline.
- Relationship between UCAD and CMKX. They are combining their resources to tie into each other and increase shareholder value and each of there companies.
-Shareholders WILL participate in the Forward Split 3-1. ALL the shares will still be restricted.


CMKX

- Working to bring the company reporting.
- A little ahead of schedule than what it normally takes
- Twoards the end of the month they can be more accurate as to when they will become fully reporting
- Projects in Canada on schedule, drilling ongoing. Some delays in getting permits
- They are drilling 24/7. There increasing size of workforce. A lot to come.
- Looking for new projects to increase shareholder value on a continuous basis.
- Urban and Rendall send there condolences to Ty.
- They want to make the working relationship between UCAD strong, to benifit the shareholder.
- Urban says that they are working on fully reporting, says they aware of low share price, they will sort it out shortly
- Saying be patient...lol. They are working with Roger Glenn to address the situation.
- Having Roger Glenn on board, insures everything is done properly with the company, he will fix all the problems with the company.
- Drilling activity - got a good drill team and proper equipment. Ahead of schedule. Getting down to 100-1500 foot range.
- A lot of targets they can't get on til they're frozen. Multiple targets.
- Final thoughts: Urban thanks every shareholder, he really believes at these prices it's a good opportunity. They are doing a lot of transactions in the future that will enhance shareholder value. Thanks everyone for coming out to the races.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
RE: Green Baron's Interview Summary

ALL BS!!!


 


Posted by will on :
 
"- Urban says that they are working on fully reporting, says they aware of low share price, they will sort it out shortly
- Saying be patient...lol. They are working with Roger Glenn to address the situation.
- Having Roger Glenn on board, insures everything is done properly with the company, he will fix all the problems with the company."

Any detail to this? "the situation", did he say what the situation is? "fix all the probelms with the company" did he identify what these problems are?

Patience was the message?
 


Posted by will on :
 
By the way, Ruh420, thanks for posting information, I appreciate it.

 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i suspect the problems are keeping Urba from going to jail

it would b enice if he mentioned what the problems are but he doesnt want mayhem when he tells the truth.

JMHO


quote:
Originally posted by will:
"- Urban says that they are working on fully reporting, says they aware of low share price, they will sort it out shortly
- Saying be patient...lol. They are working with Roger Glenn to address the situation.
- Having Roger Glenn on board, insures everything is done properly with the company, he will fix all the problems with the company."

Any detail to this? "the situation", did he say what the situation is? "fix all the probelms with the company" did he identify what these problems are?

Patience was the message?



 


Posted by will on :
 
To be fair at this time, penny, that was just a summary. Maybe he did go into detail as to what he felt the problems/situation are, and what will be done to fix them.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
true enough.

well see soon enough.

quote:
Originally posted by will:
To be fair at this time, penny, that was just a summary. Maybe he did go into detail as to what he felt the problems/situation are, and what will be done to fix them.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Maybe he doesn't like people peeking at his cards.
At least he's talking to the share holders.
 
Posted by will on :
 
As a shareholder you are satisfied if those general remarks were all he said?

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Maybe he doesn't like people peeking at his cards.
At least he's talking to the share holders.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I havn't heard the interview.
But I don't think we'll hear much of substance untill CMKX is a reporting company.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
There you have it. No question about a short.


You will know about the fully reporting issue in about two weeks.


I think this just builds to an announcement soon. I think the party is in this time frame.


Also, Roger will fix the problems. This isn't just saying we have problems, but they are fixable.

If CMKX comes out of this a going concern with proper structure and revenue then it should do well.


Wallace, do you believe our problems are fixable?
 


Posted by will on :
 
Oh! Your first reply : "Maybe he doesn't like people peeking at his cards.
At least he's talking to the share holders.", led me to believe that you might be satisfied with at least him talking to shareholders. I said to be fair we haven't seen or heard the whole interview or learned if there was detail to those general remarks. If there isn't more than that I would be disappointed. The summerized interview had very little substance, except to be patient. I would like substance over "at least", wouldn't you? If there isn't more then I would assume they are continuing to follow their policy of not being forthcoming and remaining ambiguous. Ambiguity only leads to these wild theories and specualtions to keep people buying. He even made a reference that at this price it would be prudent to purchase more, a buy opportunity.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
I havn't heard the interview.
But I don't think we'll hear much of substance untill CMKX is a reporting company.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 17, 2004).]



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Here is the one I like,

quote:

Urban says that they are working on fully reporting, says they aware of low share price, they will sort it out shortly


What is there to sort out, why are they not concerned right now? Is there too much going on to deal with it?
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
I havn't heard the interview.
But I don't think we'll hear much of substance untill CMKX is a reporting company.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 17, 2004).]


Why not, highwaychild? You ARE entitled to substance as a CMKX shareholder! That is a major part of "professional, fair and honest business practices". Don't you agree?


 


Posted by will on :
 
Raider any idea why --- "There you have it. No question about a short."
Do you think that was purposely avoided? Usually when things are avoided that denotes resignation that it didn't exist. It's dismissed without acknowledging they were inaccurate and miscalculated the short issue. The faithful might say it was avoided as part of plan or trap, I don't buy that. I go with, sweep it under the rug, don't talk about it, they'll forget.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I liked that one too, Raider, but chose the other two I posted. Sorted out was just too vague to me, I thought that would be obvious even to a casual observer. Good catch though, nothing like being ambiguous.

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Here is the one I like,


What is there to sort out, why are they not concerned right now? Is there too much going on to deal with it?



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
When I say at least he is talking to shareholders I mean,How many sub-penny stock market C.E.O.s do that?
U. C. is not melvin you're dealing with.I think you're not going to get any answers until he is ready to give 'em.
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
It may be over zealous skepticism that infers he is hiding info, it is possible he really doesn't know.


He sees all the pumping and the restlessness and gives us something to bring people down to earth.

All to be sorted out, when it is he will tell us. That is what I get out of this.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Here is a post from RB

quote:

abadgoodgirl, Did you think they gave us "the silent treatment"? But the 1500 ft. level is pretty darn deep to still be finding Kimberlite. Am I right?
tia



Is it possible UC is giving us kimberlite depth of the famous oreo pipe? That is the last place they were drilling per my recollection.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
oh shiit now theres a good atribute maybe he just doesnt know!!!!!

and you are ok with that thinking!!!


holly crap

That scares the hell out of me.


quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
It may be over zealous skepticism that infers he is hiding info, it is possible he really doesn't know.


He sees all the pumping and the restlessness and gives us something to bring people down to earth.

All to be sorted out, when it is he will tell us. That is what I get out of this.



 


Posted by will on :
 
I have a link here where they CEO's of a lot of pennies are interviewd:
http://www.ceocast.com/index.cfm

There are probably a couple others that do like interviewing.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
When I say at least he is talking to shareholders I mean,How many sub-penny stock market C.E.O.s do that?
U. C. is not melvin you're dealing with.I think you're not going to get any answers until he is ready to give 'em.


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
according to melvins comment on Thursday they where not sure how far down they where but they had not found anything yet but that we would be the first to know
mms://media.bchost.com/audio/melvin_101304.wma

if they are down 1500 ft and still have not found anything that is not good. and according to what melvin said this is the second drilling in this swampy area.


quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Here is a post from RB


Is it possible UC is giving us kimberlite depth of the famous oreo pipe? That is the last place they were drilling per my recollection.



[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Are you saying he may not know about a huge shorting problem. I thought that was what CMKX was claiming was killing the PPS, and to correct that was a major part of their plan.
Am I misunderstanding, does, "it is possible he doesn't reallty know", refer to something other than the shorting issue?

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
It may be over zealous skepticism that infers he is hiding info, it is possible he really doesn't know.


He sees all the pumping and the restlessness and gives us something to bring people down to earth.

All to be sorted out, when it is he will tell us. That is what I get out of this.



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
RJR wrote:
"He sees all the pumping and the restlessness and gives us something to bring people down to earth."


To exactly what are you referring?

 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Two things,

1. the question was about pps not shorting. There are many things that apply to pps. If there were a shorting issue the divvy's distribution could help clear this up, I agree with you UC couldn't make this statement and know the shorting problem exacly.

Perhaps as others have said, he uses the divvy's to help extract the total number of shorts. Then UC would be telling the truth.

2. 1500 ft drill depth could apply in a general sense to any of the holes drilled in the past month. I am sure there have been multiple holes.

You are stretching things to connect UC's statement and Uncle Melvie's.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i find it ridiculous that ppl still think there is a huge naked short. you can't use restricted shares in the loan program. these are special shares that cant be moved. the loan program that allows naked shorting is based on selling a stock with the idea of replacing that share within 3 days with stocks you bought when you could only the replace part never happens. where do you buy restricted shares? if any naked short belivers can explain that to me i might change my mind. ucad would be braindead to sell restricted shares to mm's to cover naked shares of a partner company not to mention secretly dilute their own shares. no wait that company in london was set up to cover naked shares of cmkx. they invested heavily in ucad only to get restricted shares of ucad so they could cover and so that nobody would catch on they invested in a bunch of other companies. devious bast***s those mm's are.

as for reporting qbid said it would be 6 months to a yr to get everything ready to be reporting and i dont think what mess they have is even close to cmkx's mess. qbid figures spring maybe early summer. i'm 46 yrs old i figure any time before i see 50 might be fast with the cmkx share structure mess

as for ppl like wwjd investing $25,000 in cmkx, i dont think they will get hurt. the dividends will cover a lot of that even with ucad's pps a yr from now and i'm sure a run will happen that if smart the differance can be made up in cmkx sells. i'd look for ucad to be at least $5 in a yr. if you notice they do seem to do the right things. even after this 3-1 forward split they will only have about a 70 million o/s with a few paying gold mines and a diamond mine in south america getting close to coming on line. the div's could easily be worth close to $20,000 and .0005 X 10 million cmkx shares covers $25,000 with 60 million cmkx shares in the bank. i'd like to be that person but i sure wouldn't be putting that kind of money into cmkx today even if i had it, not without the ucad shares

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Posted by will on :
 
Raider, I am not sure who you are replying to, it might help to either use the reply feature, or quote the person you're speaking to, or address them directly.
It's getting difficult for me to follow.
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Wallace,

The boards have been full of what is supposed to be revealed monday and later in the week.

UC's statement tend to discredit all these rumors, and focuses us a couple of weeks out.


There may be a lot of pumpers, but UC clearly isn't one of them according to the preliminary info.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Would they drill to 1500ft and beyond without hitting kimberlite?

Or would they stop much sooner?
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
paet 2 of his message was directed to me.

Im not sure about part one lol


quote:
Originally posted by will:
Raider, I am not sure who you are replying to, it might help to either use the reply feature, or quote the person you're speaking to, or address them directly.
It's getting difficult for me to follow.


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Sorry Penny,

Anyone can answer my responses if they feel the need.


Would they drill to 1500 ft in a dry hole?
 


Posted by will on :
 
I'm pretty much finished for the day anyway. Not much more to say.
No "squeeze of the century"
Need detail of the interview, if there are any.

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
http://www.ceocast.com/index.cfm ... Cool tool Will,thanks.
But how many of those company C.E.O. have a diamond cartel watching their every move.LOL
I'm gone.Hope there will be another pr in my E-mail when I get up.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
I dont believe i am stretching it. they are drilling in one area right now as they still only have the one drilling unit. they are planning on increasing the effort but from what i can gather is that they only still have the one.

Melvin made comment that Ron had just talked to him and that they where going back up there the next day.

Urban made the comment today about being down to 1500 ft.

so no i dont believe it is a stretch to combine the 2 comments to come up with this.


at least there is some fact behind it to support the comment unlike the NSS theory that everyone is willing to accept dispite the fact that it has been shot down as not existing.

I know you would rather believe the stuff that imagination is made of. I like the facts myself.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Two things,

2. 1500 ft drill depth could apply in a general sense to any of the holes drilled in the past month. I am sure there have been multiple holes.

You are stretching things to connect UC's statement and Uncle Melvie's.



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I asked the question at rb and people with drilling knowledge said the overburden stops between 400 and 500 ft, and they would not drill much past this in a dry hole.

It gets more expensive the deeper you go.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
apparently they do since we have drilled that deep and still have no word on any type of finds.

do you honestly think that they wouldnt be braging up any finds at all?

look at how loud they where about 2 tiny little diamond fragments that where not worth mentioning.

just imagine what they will be like if they find anythign that resembles a diamond big enough to see.

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Sorry Penny,

Anyone can answer my responses if they feel the need.


Would they drill to 1500 ft in a dry hole?



 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
in the Caroline pipe they didnt hit kimberlite till they hit 400 ft if i remember right.

Urban has state we have drilled to 1500 ft.

so with your theory then they have a pipe that has estended down 1500 feet from around the 400 ft level. that would be huge news and again if that was the case there woudl be a lot of hype about it. Caroline pipe was estimated at about 200 ft of kimberlite and they where very excited about that.

i cant see them keeping quite under your theory.

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
I asked the question at rb and people with drilling knowledge said the overburden stops between 400 and 500 ft, and they would not drill much past this in a dry hole.

It gets more expensive the deeper you go.



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
quote:

Urban made the comment today about being down to 1500 ft.



He did not say at 1500 ft today. He said they had drilled from 100ft to 1500ft, that could be anytime over the past weeks.


Penny,

They would keep it quiet because they learned a lesson with Carolin. They got avg reults back fro a known pipe and it hurt them.

I think they are using results to make deals first, and will announce results to the public when it is time in their opinion.


This is one explanation.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Good luck, Raider, I am gone until tomorrow...maybe.
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
possibly.

I hope you are right, but untill this happens i will remain skeptical and refrain form strapping on the rose colored glasses.

less pain this way if it all goes down the tube.

Im not in love with this stock and will not fall into the trap of convincing myself that this is the one that will make me rich.

GLTA

close tomorrow .0002

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:

He did not say at 1500 ft today. He said they had drilled from 100ft to 1500ft, that could be anytime over the past weeks.


Penny,

They would keep it quiet because they learned a lesson with Carolin. They got avg reults back fro a known pipe and it hurt them.

I think they are using results to make deals first, and will announce results to the public when it is time in their opinion.


This is one explanation.



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I will hang on til the divvy's are divied. End of November. All I can lose is 50% of CMKX from this point.


I realize it ties my money up, I play a few others and hopefully they will pay off soon too.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 

CMKM Diamonds Inc
Symbol CMKX


CMKM fans in dividend tizzy, await CEO interview

2004-10-15 20:30 ET - Street Wire

Also Street Wire (U-UCAD) US Canadian Minerals Inc

by Lee M. Webb

CMKM Diamonds Inc., a subpenny pink sheet promotion headed by Urban Casavant, has a cult-like following that was recently thrown into yet another tizzy, this time over a purported dividend-in-specie distribution of shares of Australia-based WMC Resources Ltd. CMKM fans are also excitedly awaiting the release of a so-called interview with Mr. Casavant conducted by Internet tout Ed Miller of the Green Baron.

While the CMKM faithful will indeed soon get to listen to Mr. Casavant field some vetted questions gently lobbed by Mr. Miller, they will not be receiving any WMC shares as a dividend distribution.

The WMC imbroglio

WMC bears little resemblance to the gaggle of companies associated with CMKM, some of which already figure in dividend-in-specie schemes. For example, a distribution of shares of recently made over and virtually penniless U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc., which is trading on the OTC Bulletin Board, was paid on Oct. 6.

A dividend-in-specie distribution of privately owned and inscrutable Casavant International Mining, formerly headed by Urban Casavant and now led by Ron Casavant, is slated for Oct. 18. A distribution of shares of pink-sheet traded Juina Mining Corp., a non-reporting company, will follow on Nov. 15.

WMC is a horse of a markedly different colour; it is a major diversified resources company that produces nickel, copper, uranium oxide, phosphate fertilizer and other products. The company reported an after-tax profit of $515-million (Australian) for the six months ending June 30, 2004.

The hullabaloo over WMC erupted after a British CMKM shareholder reported that he had received a TD Waterhouse corporate action notice advising that Mr. Casavant's pink sheet promotion had announced a distribution of WMC shares.

According to the Oct. 7 notice from TD Waterhouse, which was scanned and posted to the Internet, on Nov. 15 shareholders would receive 0.00012267 of a share of WMC for each share of CMKM. That is exactly the same payment date and ratio that has been officially published for the dividend-in-specie distribution of Juina Mining shares.

The possibility of a hoax or simply a clerical error by TD Waterhouse was largely dismissed by many of the cult-like CMKM followers. Indeed, according to one of the most widely followed CMKM Internet gurus, identified as U.S. Air Force officer Major Sterling Collins, the notice of a distribution of WMC shares was not likely a mistake at all.

"I believe it is very likely to be true and I think I see why besides the minerals and resources involved," Mr. Collins told a large group of his Internet followers on Oct. 11. "I think I can make some sense of this."

Apparently the sense that Mr. Collins could make of the WMC imbroglio turned on some convoluted gobbledegook involving a circular cash flow economic model, whatever that might be.

WMC, however, made more succinct sense of the matter.

"WMC Resources has no relationship with CMKM Diamonds," WMC spokesman John Higginbotham advised Stockwatch.

According to Mr. Higginbotham, WMC was trying to contact TD Waterhouse in both the U.S. and Britain "to alert them to this misinformation."

There will not be a dividend-in-specie distribution of WMC shares to CMKM shareholders.

Meanwhile, many of the excitable CMKM faithful have moved on to other wild speculation, making much ado about the upcoming release of Mr. Casavant's interview with the Green Baron.

Urban talks to tout

Mr. Casavant, known more familiarly among CMKM fans as "Urban" or "Urbie" or "UC," has reportedly already been interviewed by Mr. Miller, head of the Internet tout service the Green Baron.

U.S. Canadian Minerals chief executive officer Rendal Williams, in a reprise with Mr. Miller, took part in the same interview that will be made available to Green Baron members on Oct. 17 and released to the general public on Oct. 18.

Mr. Miller has been fishing for an interview with the elusive Mr. Casavant for quite some time, even attending some of the funny car races that CMKM's leader used to frequent in an attempt to chat him up. Evidently that did not pan out because Mr. Casavant did not show up at those particular races.

In any event, Mr. Miller reported in one of his earlier touts that Mr. Casavant had been advised by legal counsel that it would be best to postpone any interview until after CMKM became fully reporting.

The fact that Mr. Casavant has participated in the Green Baron interview to be generally released on Monday has, of course, sparked another frenzy of speculation among the company's faithful followers. Indeed, among other things, speculation is rampant that CMKM will have reporting status before the interview is released.

Many believe that just such an announcement will be made before the markets open on Oct. 18, possibly even some time this weekend. Some more skeptical observers, widely known as "bashers," express doubts about whether CMKM, a company with more than 779 billion shares outstanding, will ever become a reporting issuer.

To this point, CMKM has not made any filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission signalling a return to reporting issuer status, something that would undoubtedly be of interest to both the company's faithful followers and skeptics alike, if it ever happens.

Given that the interview questions were previously vetted by Mr. Casavant and Mr. Williams, the eagerly awaited interview of Mr. Casavant is not likely to involve much, if anything, in the way of questions that would require specific answers about such things as the share structure, the company's financial status or other hard facts that are generally available to investors in reporting companies.

Among many of CMKM's faithful followers, however, fantasies trump facts, so an abundance of puffery and a dearth of solid information emanating from the so-called interview may not cause much of a stir.

Indeed, it is quite likely that any puffery will be far easier to fit into the fantasies of the starry-eyed naifs who seem to believe that CMKM has an "intrinsic value" of a trillion or even several trillion dollars, huge deposits of valuable minerals that pretty much span the spectrum of the periodic table and a massive short position that could top a trillion shares, among other unlikely things.

Quite apart from the fact that Mr. Casavant and Mr. Williams previously approved the interview questions, it is not likely that Mr. Miller would press his guests on any issues that might trouble CMKM's faithful followers or dampen their enthusiasm for the pink sheet promotion or hinder the U.S. Canadian Minerals promotion, for that matter.

After all, the Green Baron is a tout service, though the CMKM and U.S. Canadian Minerals touting is reportedly being provided free of charge. Moreover, Mr. Miller, who touts CMKM as "the stock play of a lifetime," holds shares of the company, as does his father at his suggestion. They probably hold shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals, too, given the dividend-in-specie distribution of restricted shares of that company on Oct. 6.

U.S. Canadian Minerals, which reported no revenue and a picayune $1,321 (U.S.) in cash for the quarter ending June 30, 2004, has been on something of a tear lately. (All future amounts are in U.S. dollars.)

The stock price flared to a rather astonishing $18.50 per share on Oct. 12 before giving up some of the gains. The following day, the company announced a three-for-one forward stock split, now set for Oct. 25.

Sour note

Evidently the recent trading activity and price spike in U.S. Canadian Minerals caught the attention of Stocklemon.com, an Internet publication that bills itself as "exposing lemons on the OTC market." It is widely accepted that Stocklemon and some of its followers engage in shorting OTC companies identified as lemons by the publication.

On Oct. 15, Stocklemon.com published its unflattering assessment of U.S. Canadian Minerals in what may be the first of several articles, if the publication follows its usual pattern.

"The business of UCAD (U.S. Canadian Minerals) has been a slew of convoluted deals and swaps with virtually worthless pink sheet companies," the Stocklemon report states. Mines and money have been swapped between them all, but it still leaves shareholders with no real value. The mines have no proven success; you can shuffle worthless entities around all day long, but at the end of the day you still end up with nothing, regardless of share price."

After examining several other matters and offering opinions, Stocklemon provided its conclusion, among other things mentioning CMKM.

"We are aware the CMKX has a large shareholder base and we respect people who invest their hard earned money in the markets," Stocklemon says, in part. "Yet, the stock market is not a get rich quick scheme and investors should do substantial due diligence before ever buying a penny stock.

"Remember, if you can't bet on the horse, bet on the jockey. In this case the jockeys do not have an investment grade track record.

"Please take this report as a respectful warning to all of you who might spend your hard earned money buying this stock."

Evidently the Stocklemon report drew considerable response, including reactions from CMKM shareholders. Indeed, the extent of the response and some of the reactions apparently even surprised Stocklemon's editor, who is no stranger to receiving rather harsh comments about his publication.

Meanwhile, the Stocklemon report did not have an adverse impact on the share price. In fact, with 192,150 shares changing hands U.S. Canadian Minerals gained $1.45 to close at $14.45 on Oct. 15.

CMKM rang up a volume of approximately 16 billion shares and closed unchanged at two-100ths of a cent on Friday.

The saga will continue.

Comments regarding this article may be sent to lwebb@stockwatch.com.

(More information regarding CMKM Diamonds and associated companies can be found in Stockwatch articles dated Oct. 21, 2003; June 22; Sept. 16 and 24; and Oct. 1, 2004.)


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
here is what stood out ot me in this article

Quite apart from the fact that Mr. Casavant and Mr. Williams previously approved the interview questions, it is not likely that Mr. Miller would press his guests on any issues that might trouble CMKM's faithful followers or dampen their enthusiasm for the pink sheet promotion or hinder the U.S. Canadian Minerals promotion, for that matter.

so dont expect any new info from this interview.

hardly an interview at all under these conditions.

also this passage spoke volumes as well.

The business of UCAD (U.S. Canadian Minerals) has been a slew of convoluted deals and swaps with virtually worthless pink sheet companies," the Stocklemon report states. Mines and money have been swapped between them all, but it still leaves shareholders with no real value. The mines have no proven success; you can shuffle worthless entities around all day long, but at the end of the day you still end up with nothing, regardless of share price."


but you can close your eyes to these facts as well.

we will not be reporting by the interview.

i would be surprised if they ever go reporting. they have to much that they dont want to go public with. especially the outstanding share count.

JMHO

Rod
 


Posted by Dave on :
 
THE CMKX stock/chess game continues..
25mill and holding.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Dave - Lets hope that it is us - the shareholders - that get to say the ever famous, Checkmate.

JEAL
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Woohoo - touched 0.0003 at early trading
 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
Question? If this has been covered before please forgive me.

The original purchase of Juina Mining Corp. was 95,502,027 share representing 25% of Juina's O/S. So, the O/S was 382,008,108 (95,502,027/.25). Now the new O/S would be 477,510,135 (382,008,108 + 95,502,027).

However, the recent additional purchase of 127,336,036 was stated as being 24% (in the old pr) which is an O/S 530,566,816 (127,336,036/.24).

The difference between 530,566,817 and 477,510,135 is 53,056,682 or exactly 10% of 530,566,817 round up.

Any thoughts on where this other 10% can from?

(hope my math is correct)

From old prs...
7/29/2004 2:26:00 PM
LAS VEGAS, Jul 29, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) announced today that it has purchased common stock equating to 25% of the outstanding shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM) for $500,000.

In addition, GEMM has issued an option to CMKX to purchase shares equivalent to an additional 24% of the outstanding shares in GEMM for an additional $500,000.

8/2/2004 1:05:00 PM
LAS VEGAS, Aug 2, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) announced today that it has elected to distribute the 95,502,027 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM) which were recently purchased by the company as a dividend to its shareholders.

In addition, GEMM has issued a 60-day option to CMKX to purchase shares equivalent to an additional 24% of the outstanding shares in GEMM for an additional $500,000 USD. When exercised, the company has elected to distribute this additional 127,336,036 as a dividend on the same record and distribution date.

0.00012267 announced factor for 95,502,027 shares.
0.00016356 expected factor for 127,336,036 shares


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Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Upside (or anyone)
How do you find out the A/S? Somebody called state of NV before. Can you post the number or call them up again? Thanks
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
775-684-5708. Whoever answers the phone will tell you. Just tell them you want the authorized share count of a Nevada corporation. They'll ask the name, just remember to tell them CMKM Diamonds, not CMKX. They might laugh a little (they did with me) because apparently they get quite a few calls about them. Let us know what they say!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
we keep hearing about getting results from carolyn or the one we got, 2 flakes of diamond but the truth is we can't expect much from these drilling tests. think about it...from shore gold i think it said they had great results finding 17 to 20 carats per tonne of bulk sampling. lets use 20 carats and for 1 tonne lets say the bed of a pick up truck full & level with the bed top now take 20 - 1 carat diamonds (about the size of a lima bean) and mix that into the pick up bed. now look out your window and picture 400 ft down stacking 20 of these pick up beds on top of each other, ten stacks across & 10 stacks each way now take something the size of your wrist & drill it down into these stacks of pick up beds remembering you have 300 ft deep of dirt before you hit those pick up beds. how many of those diamonds do you think you might hit? i think if you hit any of the diamonds it would be lucky. even if you broke those 1 carat pieces into 10 pieces each. what i'm saying is expecting any real results giving these claims any kind of valuation with 2 1/2 inch drill samples is foolish. not till they find a likely spot & do bulk sampling will any kind of valuation be done & thats at least a yr away if not 2 or 3 yrs.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
The state of Nevada can tell you how many shares have been authorized. probably 800 billion or near. however they will not tell you how many that are outstanding, in the float, or retired. could be 800 billion o/s could be 400 billion no way to know for sure since this is a pink sheet.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Thanks for the visual Bill! I can "see" now.
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
we keep hearing about getting results from carolyn or the one we got, 2 flakes of diamond but the truth is we can't expect much from these drilling tests. think about it...from shore gold i think it said they had great results finding 17 to 20 carats per tonne of bulk sampling. lets use 20 carats and for 1 tonne lets say the bed of a pick up truck full & level with the bed top now take 20 - 1 carat diamonds (about the size of a lima bean) and mix that into the pick up bed. now look out your window and picture 400 ft down stacking 20 of these pick up beds on top of each other, ten stacks across & 10 stacks each way now take something the size of your wrist & drill it down into these stacks of pick up beds remembering you have 300 ft deep of dirt before you hit those pick up beds. how many of those diamonds do you think you might hit? i think if you hit any of the diamonds it would be lucky. even if you broke those 1 carat pieces into 10 pieces each. what i'm saying is expecting any real results giving these claims any kind of valuation with 2 1/2 inch drill samples is foolish. not till they find a likely spot & do bulk sampling will any kind of valuation be done & thats at least a yr away if not 2 or 3 yrs.


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
2 and 1/2 inch are you being sarcastic. You would be lucky to find anything in a 2 1/2 hole. maybe a worm or two if your lucky. why such a small sample?? why not get a bigger sample?
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
why not break out a shovel and get a pound or two. shovels are cheap
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Bill,
I agree that the chances seem pretty remote but apparently that's the way it's done. I believe that's how the other companies started out also. It appears that's the first step in identifying a target for bulk sampling.
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Thanks Upside.
I just called them, the lady answered like she already knew the question
Its 800B as of 8/18.

Anybody got CIM divy?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
775-684-5708. Whoever answers the phone will tell you. Just tell them you want the authorized share count of a Nevada corporation. They'll ask the name, just remember to tell them CMKM Diamonds, not CMKX. They might laugh a little (they did with me) because apparently they get quite a few calls about them. Let us know what they say!


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
TruthTeller,
That's the same information I got a few weeks ago. I asked her if there could possibly be an increase pending that she wasn't aware of and she did say that they are about a month behind in loading all of the information into the computer so it could have been increased and she wouldn't know about it yet.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i too wonder about the thinking in drilling 2 1/2 inch holes. its not like your looking for a huge chunk of diamond to hit. but if they drill 15 to 20 holes in a 50 sq/yd by 50 sq/yd area they could find enough to pick a place to bulk sample. i'm sure they aren't looking to find the hope diamond in these samples or even a nice tennis braclet.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
why not break out a shovel and get a pound or two. shovels are cheap

Would you really want to dig down 400 feet through who knows what just to get a sample ... with shovels?

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Pumpers Vs Bashers


--About JEFF and EFGI always top on ASK (alone most of the time),it looks like
They are NSSing CMKX (for pumpers)
UC is dumping billions via JEFF/EFGI (for bashers)


--About the dividends

Of the 3 dividends announced so far, only UCAD has some value (even after the restriction).. Why dividends??

Pumpers think the dividends will force MMs cover CMKX, pumpers are so optimistic that MMs will cover the dividends and CMKX..

Bashers think the whole thing is a scam, not a scam that takes UC to jail thoough but a legal scam (oxymoron?). I put myself in bashers' shoes and thought about the dividends and here is my theory, I hope I am wrong in the end because I have 10M of CMKX.

1. First CMKX announced/distributed UCAD divy which is a OTCBB stock. We know if insiders buy/sell their stock. The stock price went up (pumpers and bashers have their own reasons for this, I haven't heard any basher reasoning tho)

2. Then We have CIM which is really useless now. Pumpers say this will force cover. I don't think so as the ratio for this gives a O/S of 1.5T (not 779B).

3. Then we have GEMM (2 times0. I think this is where UC (and co.) getting lots of money (on top of what they already got). CMKX shareholders are going to buy GEMM on the anticipation of a move (like UCAD). What if GEMM dumps shares on to market as there is demand, we don't know since this is a pink sheet company. What UC can do is dump billions of CMKX and drive these other stocks (UCAD, GEMM, SGGM etc.) up at the same time. who owns those other stocks??


--About RG
Pumpers say RG is for the shareholders
Bashers say RG is for UC (only)

Just speculation from both sides..
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
the october surprise is that there isnt one
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
LOL LOL
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
the october surprise is that there isnt one


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
GatorMan,

Don't know if you saw my previous question.
Repeat. Do you live anywhere near your friend.

Upside,

Are you thinking the same thing I am? That they just might increase the authorized without announcing it again? I put my money on an even trillion.
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Believe it or not ...... from other board...
www.savefile.com/users/uploads/spiderman_call_to_sos_nev_101804.mp3

Sounds unreal

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Where did all these UCAD shares come from again?
Just 5% of CMKXs' mineral rights?
Do you think that was just for UCADs' health?
I don't, and I think there's probably something behind that divvy.Just don't know what.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
TruthTeller
Member posted October 18, 2004 22:38
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Believe it or not ...... from other board... www.savefile.com/users/uploads/spiderman_call_to_sos_nev_101804.mp3
Sounds unreal

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===========================================

from 800 billion to 80 million!!!!!??????? that means only wwjd has real shares all the rest of us have naked shorted shares...lol. for that to happen it would be a 10,000/1 rs or in simple math 1 million shares become 100 shares. i think there would be a few ppl looking to bring stoning back into the law books & i dont mean smoking too many buds.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the voice sounds like sterling by the way and that could be from a few yrs ago.
 
Posted by Forrestgump on :
 
I just receive this info in my bank account:
128,000 - CMKM DIAMONDS INC TENDER OFFER SPINOFF ON 5000000 SHS FROM CMKM DIAMONDS INC payable october 20th but no symbol. I was out of the country. For what stock exactly do I receive shares?
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Another speculation is ...

800Billion X 0.0001 = $80 Miliion
800B - A/S
0.0001 - Par value (?!?)

somebody from NV state office got confused and said 80M shares instead of $80M

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
the voice sounds like sterling by the way and that could be from a few yrs ago.


 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
TENDER OFFER ??

I love those words .. nothin in Ameritrade yet

quote:
Originally posted by Forrestgump:
I just receive this info in my bank account:
128,000 - CMKM DIAMONDS INC TENDER OFFER SPINOFF ON 5000000 SHS FROM CMKM DIAMONDS INC payable october 20th but no symbol. I was out of the country. For what stock exactly do I receive shares?

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Posted by valves on :
 
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces the Success of Its Integrated Business Plan Goes Into Effect in Ecuador
10/19/2004 9:30:00 AM








PORTOVELO, Ecuador, Oct 19, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) headed by its CEO Urban Casavant and his advisory team accompanied by the company's SEC attorney Roger Glen successfully concluded the major ownership acquisition of the established American Mine here in Portovelo today. CMKM Diamonds and its operating partner Minera Nevada SA a subsidiary of Nevada Minerals, Inc. of Las Vegas, Nevada will manage a major corridor of gold production inside this region. The current yield coming through the American Mine is 40 tons of gold ore on a daily average. Alejandro Diaz, president of Minera Nevada SA exclaims, "Within the next 6 working weeks the production will raise to a steady 80 tons of gold ore per work day as we start our second shift of underground mining team." Diaz continues, "All will be done to ramp the mining production to complete our obligations to Yellow river and US Canadian Minerals, Inc. for their addition of two additional mills to Yellow River and the new production facility of the Buza coming on line over the next 90 days to build up to 300 tons of gold ore processing per day to satisfy the volume increase of the American Mine build up of production."

The advisory team had members from legal, accounting, operations and feasibility to assess all probabilities on expansion and further development of other opportunities from CMKX, UCAD, and Nevada Minerals. The team was introduced to the on ground executive team that will lead the way through the start up phase one process. US Canadian Minerals CEO Rendal Williams explains, "UCAD has considerable time and dollars invested here in South America, especially Ecuador. We believe there is a major shift of technologies that this region has been starving for and we as UCAD plan to lead the way and share this knowledge with those who wish to expand their current ore production."

The American Mine sits inside the Zaruma-Portovelo Mining District. This district has a recorded historic production of more than 4.5 million ounces of gold and 19 million ounces of silver, as well as significant tonnages of copper, zinc and lead concentrates.

The American Mine located in Portovelo, Ecuador consists of a 100 ton hoist system that will from up to the depth of one of its 13 levels, deliver gold ore to the surface to a 35 ton drop shoot that will be supported by a jaw crusher and a cone crusher to minimize processing time for expedited production flow at the Yellow River Processing Plant. Urban Casavant CEO of CMKX said, "Through the combined efforts of all the parties in this venture we have gathered a new frontier for the well being of our shareholders and company alike. The company will be moving rapidly into a revenue model here in the fourth quarter."

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds Inc.
Diamonds Hotline:
Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755
Fax: 306-752-3754


Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved.



 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Look at the pps.. I don't know what to believe..
"The company will be moving rapidly into a revenue model here in the fourth quarter"

GLTA!!

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Posted by sarki316 on :
 
Will
That PR's if you read carefully is the Key to everything. CMKX WILL DO A RUN JUST LIKE UCAD. LOL!!!!!!



 


Posted by will on :
 
I'm waiting! 2B traded .0001 / .0002. Let me know when it happens, I'll be away most of the day.

quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
Will
That PR's if you read carefully is the Key to everything. CMKX WILL DO A RUN JUST LIKE UCAD. LOL!!!!!!



 


Posted by glfpimp on :
 
So what is this new dividend I have. What company?
 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Forrestgump:
I just receive this info in my bank account:
128,000 - CMKM DIAMONDS INC TENDER OFFER SPINOFF ON 5000000 SHS FROM CMKM DIAMONDS INC payable october 20th but no symbol. I was out of the country. For what stock exactly do I receive shares?

That is your Casavant International Mining shares. 128,000/5,000,000 = 0.0256.

From http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=cmkx ...(payment date 10/18)
Refer to the D/L of 8/30/2004, P/D revised by Co. .0256 of a restricted share of Casavant International Mining for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.

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Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Today's PR is very interesting indeed.

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-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.

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Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Gold is sitting at $418.00 US ,
They should be able to produce it at $165- $180 0z.,
depending on grade.
The MMs cannot hold this down much longer...
 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Forrestgump:
I just receive this info in my bank account:
128,000 - CMKM DIAMONDS INC TENDER OFFER SPINOFF ON 5000000 SHS FROM CMKM DIAMONDS INC payable october 20th but no symbol. I was out of the country. For what stock exactly do I receive shares?

That is your Casavant International Mining shares. 128,000/5,000,000 = 0.0256.

From http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=cmkx ...(payment date 10/18)
Refer to the D/L of 8/30/2004, P/D revised by Co. .0256
of a restricted share of Casavant International Mining
for each share held.
Will not be quoted Ex.

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Posted by safeguard on :
 
With the latest pr about buying a producing GOLD mined, why isn't the pps skyrocketing this morning??
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Ok - what gives - this is kinda silly - no pps movement up or down
 
Posted by Esteban on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Ok - what gives - this is kinda silly - no pps movement up or down

I am watching MyTrack, they show NO volume, however they show 970 trades.......
It will be really interesting how this turns out in the future. Perhaps this is another IBZTE!
Steve


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
I am at work and have limited access to anything -

Do I underestand that there is no volume?
Do you have Level II?
WHo is where

If you could relay any of that, it woudl make my day a little brighter
 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
I am at work and have limited access to anything -

Do I underestand that there is no volume?
Do you have Level II?
WHo is where

If you could relay any of that, it woudl make my day a little brighter


I don't have L2, but I do see the total volume for the day is 4,888,610,455 at 11:14:19 and last trade at .0002.

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~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by Esteban on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
I am at work and have limited access to anything -

Do I underestand that there is no volume?
Do you have Level II?
WHo is where

If you could relay any of that, it woudl make my day a little brighter


Jeal,
Since my last post I checked with Medved and they show volume over 365,000,000.
Sorry, I can't help on Level II's.
Who is where? I don't understand your question.
Steve


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Steve -
Who is where -
Sorry, shoudl have been a little bit more detailed. I was just asking where all the MM's were sitting on the bid and ask. History bing that NITE and JEFF were the big ones to hold it down, and typically when they moved, the rest of the world generally followed.
Thanx


quote:
Originally posted by Esteban:
Jeal,
Since my last post I checked with Medved and they show volume over 365,000,000.
Sorry, I can't help on Level II's.
Who is where? I don't understand your question.
Steve



 


Posted by safeguard on :
 
Interesting...
Pink sheets show a Volume: 582,892,960
Ameritrade has: 5,518,315,523

A very big difference!
 


Posted by Esteban on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Steve -
Who is where -
Sorry, shoudl have been a little bit more detailed. I was just asking where all the MM's were sitting on the bid and ask. History bing that NITE and JEFF were the big ones to hold it down, and typically when they moved, the rest of the world generally followed.
Thanx




It really baffles my feeble mind that a stock can trade 1100 times with a volume of 400,000,000 shares and the damn price stays the same!!
Steve


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by safeguard:
Interesting...
Pink sheets show a Volume: 582,892,960
Ameritrade has: 5,518,315,523

A very big difference!


Pink sheets show a Volume: 582,892,960 <- this is the amount that has been bought.
Ameritrade has: 5,518,315,523 <- this amount is the TOTAL amount of shares traded. (bought or sold).

 


Posted by Pappy on :
 
ETRADE shows 5,637,540,000
 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
Pink sheets show a Volume: 582,892,960 <- this is the amount that has been bought.
Ameritrade has: 5,518,315,523 <- this amount is the TOTAL amount of shares traded. (bought or sold).

For every buy there is a sell and visa versa so the difference still
doen't make sense
- over 4.9 billion difference...
the 1st # is only 10% of the 2nd #.

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ameritrade has a volume of 5.7 billion (just under) and yes mm's do like to hold down a pps but when the o/s is 779 billion volume would need to be close to 50 billion to get any movement and 45 billion of that would need to be buys. buying the gold mine is a very good thing as it will be yrs before any mining starts in canada but unless cmkx can come out and prove that the o/s is not 779 billion without a huge r/s it doesn't matter.......... by the way only 2 more shopping days till sarki's .10 pps
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Bill - be nice


quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
ameritrade has a volume of 5.7 billion (just under) and yes mm's do like to hold down a pps but when the o/s is 779 billion volume would need to be close to 50 billion to get any movement and 45 billion of that would need to be buys. buying the gold mine is a very good thing as it will be yrs before any mining starts in canada but unless cmkx can come out and prove that the o/s is not 779 billion without a huge r/s it doesn't matter.......... by the way only 2 more shopping days till sarki's .10 pps


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by bill1352:
quote:
by the way only 2 more shopping days till sarki's .10 pps

And CMKX becoming a fully reporting company.

 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Thank you for contacting us today regarding CMKX.

The company will be spinning off shares of Casavant Int'l Mining on at a rate of .0256, fractions being dropped. The record date was 8-31-04. This means your CMKX buy trades needed to settle on or before 8-31-04 in order to receive the spin off shares. The payable date was moved from 10-1 to 10-18. Ameritrade has not received any official information as to if the shares will be restricted. Casavant Int'l Mining is not a tradable security at this time.

At this time, the shares have not been delivered to Ameritrade. Once received, we will update your account.

If you have any questions and wish to contact us via e-mail, please log into your account and send your inquiry using the "E-mail Us" link which can be found in the navigation bar at the left side of any page within your account. Select the Reorganization & Dividend Inquiry Form.

Joy Busse
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ya know i forgot all about that CIM pay date yesterday...hmmmm no naked short squeeze again??? and no word from cmkx on why the huge differance in the split figures compared to the o/s??? i'm shocked. at least they bought a gold mine and even then it didn't say what they used to buy it. lets hope is was that $10 mil. from sggm and not more shares of cmkx
 
Posted by will on :
 
Baffled? What's baffling about it? 400,000,000 shares, divide that 780B, that's why. Divide the 5B traded all day by 780B, use 10B because the days only 1/2 over. The 10B volume would only be 1.2% of the O/S, if only half the 780B was float, it still would only be 2.4%, not hardly enough to move the PPS. Don't be baffled, this isn't a low float stock, to say the
least.

quote:
Originally posted by Esteban:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JEAL:
[b]Steve -
Who is where -
Sorry, shoudl have been a little bit more detailed. I was just asking where all the MM's were sitting on the bid and ask. History bing that NITE and JEFF were the big ones to hold it down, and typically when they moved, the rest of the world generally followed.
Thanx




It really baffles my feeble mind that a stock can trade 1100 times with a volume of 400,000,000 shares and the damn price stays the same!!
Steve

[/B][/QUOTE]


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
I do have to ask -

We ( including myself ) say that the pps cant move because of o/s and a/s and all the uncertainy that goes with it. Yes, we do know that the total o/s or / as was increased, but how did we make such a run in June then - even with such a bizarre share structure.

Any ideas?


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
its a shame too. if you look at what cmkx & ucad have done in the way of putting together a prescious metal or mineral mining group its a very nice job. in just a few yrs they have working gold mines, equipment & places to do their own separating of ore (mostly ucad), diamonds, uranium claims. a very good piece of work but cmkx shareholders lose out because of the o/s. and it doesn't matter what they mine in a few yrs in canada, diamonds or uranium or both, the o/s kills the shareholder value.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
The CIM shares are in my E-trade account as of today and they are restricted as expected.

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
JEAL
Member posted October 19, 2004 12:49
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I do have to ask -
We ( including myself ) say that the pps cant move because of o/s and a/s and all the uncertainy that goes with it. Yes, we do know that the total o/s or / as was increased, but how did we make such a run in June then - even with such a bizarre share structure.

Any ideas?


===================================

my opinion is that was the naked short cover. the mm's forced it up to get ppl to sell. it was also before the 400 billion o/s news came out.
 


Posted by safeguard on :
 
Yes, the company has to have a net worth of $80 billion just to make the pps 10 cents.

The only thing they can do now to increase shareholder value is buy back and retire shares.

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
in the U.S. a company can not use the estimated value of minerals in the ground in its net worth, only what someone might pay for those claims. which makes getting to $80 billion almost impossible
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
UC would need to buy back 770 billion shares at a cost of $154 million with a .0002 pps.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Shore Gold Inc. - Star diamond project: 1,812 carats to date; 8.1, 6.3 and 3.1 carat diamonds in 222 carat parcel
Tuesday October 19, 12:48 pm ET


Stock Symbol: SGF: TSX-VEN
SASKATOON, SK, Oct. 19 /CNW/ - George H. Read, P. Geo., Senior Vice President Exploration, is pleased to announce the eighth set of diamond recoveries from the Star Kimberlite. The diamond recoveries to date total 1,811.73 carats from 14,575.94 dry tonnes processed. These results are for six kimberlite batches of a total of some 80 to 100 kimberlite batches that will be processed as part of the bulk sampling program on the Star Diamond Project, the aim of which is to recover a parcel of some 3,000 carats for valuation purposes. A total of 1,815 commercial sized diamonds (greater than 1.18 millimetre square mesh screen), collectively weighing 219.02 carats, has been recovered from the treatment of 1,446.61 dry tonnes of kimberlite. Twenty-nine diamonds greater than one carat have been recovered and the four largest stones are: 8.08, 6.28, 3.12 and 3.07 carats, respectively. In addition, 188 diamonds (3.05 carats) were recovered down to 0.85 millimetre square mesh. The colour of 76 percent of these diamonds has been classified as white, with a further 10 percent classified as off-white.
These six kimberlite batches (of a total of 43 processed) have been mined from the Southeast drive (Batches 12A, 32 and 33) and the North drive (Batches 30, 31 and 34) developed from the 235 metre shaft station. All of these kimberlite batches have been recovered from within the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. Results to date have shown that higher diamond grades are associated with the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite than with the Late Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. The relationships between these two kimberlites types are illustrated in cross sections available on the Shore Gold website: www.shoregold.com.

Batches 35A, 35B, 36, 37, 38A, 38B, 39 and 40 (all from 235 metre level) have been processed on-site and the concentrates dispatched to the sorting laboratory for final diamond recovery. Results from these batches are pending. A total of 16,492 dry tonnes has been processed through the on-site DMS plant. All batches processed to date are classified as crater facies volcaniclastic kimberlites.

Kimberlite processed and diamond results for four sample batches are listed in the table below. Grades are expressed in carats per hundred tonnes (cpht).


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Diamonds Largest
Batch Location Dry Number of Total Grade Stone
No. (metres below surface) Tonnes Stones (carats) (cpht) (carats)
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12A 235 m Level: SE drive 142.94 225 26.48 18.52 3.12
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30 235 m Level: N drive 196.56 258 34.24 17.42 1.77
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31 235 m Level: N drive 240.16 333 39.69 16.53 6.28
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32 235 m Level: SE drive 282.21 385 34.10 12.08 2.30
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
33 235 m Level: SE drive 291.58 402 50.85 17.44 8.08
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34 235 m Level: N drive 293.13 400 36.71 12.52 1.12
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Total 1,446.61 2,003 222.07 15.35
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

The four largest stones are: 8.08 (Batch 33, Off White), 6.28 (Batch 31,
Off White), 3.12 (Batch 12A, White) and 3.07 (Batch 3 1, White) carats,
respectively. Ten diamonds exceed two carats and 29 diamonds exceed one carat,
of which 22 are white, 4 are off-white, 2 are grey and 1 is brown. A total of
75 diamonds exceed 0.5 carat. Seventy-six percent of the total diamond parcel
is classified white in colour, with a further 10 percent classified as
off-white. The diamond parcel includes 2 pink, 4 yellow and 11 amber stones.
Ninety-nine percent of the carat weight of this parcel occurs in diamonds
greater than 1.18 millimetre square mesh.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, states: "We now have
diamond results for over 10,000 tonnes of Early Joli Fou kimberlite and the
average grade for this kimberlite type remains just over 16 cpht (1,617 carats
from 10,022 dry tonnes). To date, this bulk sampling program has consistently
produced an abundance of large stones and a high proportion of white goods.
The frequency of large stones and the proportion of white goods are very
significant characteristics of the Star diamond population, both of which will
significantly increase the average diamond value".
The diamond recovery procedure includes on site processing of kimberlite
through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates
are batch fed through an X-ray Flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of
low luminosity diamonds, the Flow-sort tailings are processed over a grease
table. Flow-sort and grease table concentrates are transported by a secure
carrier to SGS Lakefield Research for final diamond recovery. The SGS
Lakefield Research process includes drying, screening, magnetic separation,
manual sorting and diamond weighing and description. SGS Lakefield Research is
accredited to the ISO/IEC 17025 standard by the Standards Council of Canada as
a testing laboratory for specific tests.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, Professional Geoscientist
in the Provinces of Saskatchewan and British Columbia, is the Qualified Person
responsible for the verification and quality assurance of analytical results.
The Star Diamond Project is designed to recover a parcel of at least
3,000 carats of diamonds to enable an accurate valuation of the stones. Up to
25,000 tonnes of kimberlite will be recovered from the shaft and drifts and
processed on site to produce this diamond parcel. Shore is a Canadian based
corporation engaged in the acquisition, exploration and development of mineral
properties. Shares of the Company trade on the TSX Venture Exchange under the
trading symbol "SGF".

The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept
responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/orgDisplay.cgi?okey=14555

For further information

please contact Kenneth E. MacNeill, President & C.E.O.
George Sanders, Vice President Corporate Development
or George H. Read, P. Geo., Vice President Exploration at (306) 664-2202
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JEAL:
quote:
I do have to ask -
We ( including myself ) say that the pps cant move because of o/s and a/s and all the uncertainy that goes with it. Yes, we do know that the total o/s or / as was increased, but how did we make such a run in June then - even with such a bizarre share structure.

Any ideas?


There was an interesting theory on that proposed by DiQuiRiesco a few weeks ago that makes sense. That run corresponded exactly to the time when they were involved in their transfer agent fiasco, switching from one to another then back again. It took about a month during which time the CMKX "printing press" was shut down and were unable to flood the market with shares as they seemed to be doing at the time. The pps rose because the stock was then actually free trading without CMKX dumping shares daily. Unfortunately the same thing probably wouldn't happen now because of how much the o/s has grown since then.


 


Posted by will on :
 
"Shore Gold Inc. - Star diamond project: 1,812 carats to date; 8.1, 6.3 and 3.1 carat diamonds in 222 carat parcel
Tuesday October 19, 12:48 pm ET "

Look at the detail on that report. Wonderful. What do we get, diamondferus. Big difference, and they say these people are frothcoming.


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
in etrade if you go to your accounts and balances and then hit the positions tab it says cmkx tender offer next to the cusip number is that because cim is still private?
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Woo hoo - touched 0.0003
 
Posted by sharkus on :
 
CORRECTING and REPLACING CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces the Success of Its Integrated Business Plan Goes Into Effect in Ecuador
Business Wire - October 19, 2004 15:31

PORTOVELO, Ecuador, Oct 19, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- In BW5446 issued Oct. 19, 2004: Please replace the release with the following corrected version due to multiple revisions.

The corrected release reads:

CMKM DIAMONDS, INC. ANNOUNCES THE SUCCESS OF ITS INTEGRATED BUSINESS PLAN GOES INTO EFFECT IN ECUADOR

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) headed by its CEO Urban Casavant and his advisory team accompanied by the company's SEC attorney Roger Glenn successfully concluded the major ownership acquisition of the established American Mine here in Portovelo today. CMKM Diamonds and its operating partner Minera Nevada SA a subsidiary of Nevada Minerals, Inc. of Las Vegas, Nevada will manage a major corridor of gold production inside this region. The current yield coming through the American Mine is 40 tons of gold ore on a daily average. Alejandro Diaz, President of Minera Nevada SA exclaims, "Within the next 6 working weeks the production will raise to a steady 80 tons of gold ore per work day as we start our second shift of underground mining team." Diaz continues, "All will be done to ramp the mining production to complete our obligations to Yellow River and US Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD) for their addition of two additional mills to Yellow River and the new production facility of the Buza coming on line over the next 90 days to build up to 300 tons of gold ore processing per day to satisfy the volume increase of the American Mine build up of production."

The advisory team had members from legal, accounting, operations and feasibility to assess all probabilities on expansion and further development of other opportunities from CMKX, UCAD, and Nevada Minerals. The team was introduced to the on ground executive team that will lead the way through the start up phase one process. US Canadian Minerals CEO Rendal Williams explains, "UCAD has considerable time and dollars invested here in South America, especially Ecuador. We believe there is a major shift of technologies that this region has been starving for and we as UCAD plan to lead the way and share this knowledge with those who wish to expand their current ore production."

The American Mine sits inside the Zaruma-Portovelo Mining District. This district has a recorded historic production of more than 4.5 million ounces of gold and 19 million ounces of silver, as well as significant tonnages of copper, zinc and lead concentrates.

The American Mine located in Portovelo, Ecuador consists of a 100 ton hoist system that will from up to the depth of one of its 13 levels, deliver gold ore to the surface to a 35 ton drop shoot that will be supported by a jaw crusher and a cone crusher to minimize processing time for expedited production flow at the Yellow River Processing Plant. Urban Casavant CEO of CMKX said, "Through the combined efforts of all the parties in this venture we have gathered a new frontier for the well being of our shareholders and company alike. The company will be moving rapidly into a revenue model here in the fourth quarter."

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds Inc.
Diamonds Hotline:
Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755
Fax: 306-752-3754

Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved.


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78.23% of all statistics are made up on the spot...The other 35% are made up later on.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
it would be nice for cmkx to say how they paid for that mine. by not saying how we might know where that 300 billion shares went. though that might be a bit much to pay at .0003 it works out to $90 million and further destroys our pps.
 
Posted by glfpimp on :
 
Look on the bright side, at the rate we are going, we will soon own a portion of every mining company out there!
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
CMKM DIAMONDS INC TENDER OFFER SPINOFF ON ******** SHS FROM SEC# C013905 CMKM DIAMONDS INC

This is what RBC in Canada is saying about Dividends today on thier website. Tender offer?? interesting!!
 


Posted by glfpimp on :
 
I am a little confused about these shares. So the first dividend was restricted UCAD shares correct? And this means that I must hold them for at least a year, then I can sell them. Or, if I hold them for two years I can trade them for unrestricted shares, is this correct?

As for the most current. This is a spinoff, so does that mean that these shares really have no value? Or what? Please help, thanks.
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Oooh, look what just showed up in my Ameritrade account:

"CMKM DIAMONDS INC CASAVANT RESTRICTED"
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
IN AMERITRADE, divy shares described as "CMKM DIAMONDS INC" NOT "CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING"

Wussup with dat ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

P.S: (from RB)
bill19336: when I spoke to ETRADE about this very thing this morning, they stated that since CIM is not a publicly traded company , and another company actually had those initials ( CIM) they could not be used, so they issued a registation number, under the temporary heading CMKM Diamonds Inc. tender offer. Hope this helps. p2dny"

http:// ragingbull. lycos.com/ mboard/boards.cgi? board=CLB01219&read=102254

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Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Yeah, Winsum.
Etrade and ssome other brokers show them as "CMKM DIAMONDS INC TENDER OFFER"

quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Oooh, look what just showed up in my Ameritrade account:

"CMKM DIAMONDS INC CASAVANT RESTRICTED"



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
glfpimp,
I'm not 100% sure here but the UCAD shares will be restricted for a minimum of one year and can be restricted for longer at the companys discretion. They can also elect to lift the restriction earlier than the one year period, I think. The CIM shares you have or will be receiving shortly are worthless as of right now. CIM is not a publicly held company and until they become one, you can't do anything with those shares.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:

P.S: (from RB)
bill19336: when I spoke to ETRADE about this very thing this morning, they stated that since CIM is not a publicly traded company , and another company actually had those initials ( CIM) they could not be used, so they issued a registation number, under the temporary heading CMKM Diamonds Inc. tender offer. Hope this helps. p2dny"
.]

Truth be told, that was a very helpful explanation. Thanks.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
One person asked earlier how the bid could be .0001 and the ask at .0003, and transactions taking place at .0002.


This is a delimma. Some think it is because they, the mm's use an extra decimal we do not see, The thing about this is that would restrict all buying to mm's, a brokerage or CMKX.

It seems to me MM's are loading up at .0002 and all sales will be .0003 and above. I believe they will soon walk this up to take their profits. Don't have a clue how high they will go with it. I guess until they run out of .0002 shares.

My opinion only.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
They asked this post to be circulated. I don't know how they know so take it for what it is worth.


quote:

OT: THIS IS A MUST READ EVERYONE..BRILLIANT STUFF>

By: rbitulsa
19 Oct 2004, 02:07 PM EDT
Msg. 102275 of 102352
Jump to msg. #
The SEC is forcing a non-retail covering.

This is the last few paragraphs of my previous message, if you want to cut to the chase (the short story, so to speak)

The covering we are seeing right now is essentially a change in accounting for CMKX shares by anyone who is/was a lending member to the DTC for CMKX, who is/was reporting to have a long position of unpledged CMKX shares in their DTC trust account, and further was a lending member who was at the same time selling or brokering the sale of short shares of CMKX, and not settling those sales at the required T+3 (or ever).

The “covering” is taking place on all shares loaned out to the NSCC, by the DTC Member described above; specifically, those shares loaned out in order to cover a retail settlement failure within the DTC system, and retained on the DTC Member’s books as still being owned by the DTC Member. The SEC is requiring that these shares be re-accounted for as sales, rather than loans, and be removed from both the books of the DTC Member Lenders.

Because the share loans (which were done blind to the market) are now sales, these transactions must be accounted for in the market and through the tickers.

Simply put, say JEFF for example was responsible for both facilitating sales of CMKX which never settled, and was receiving back buy-in shares from their own purchases which went unsettled, all while reporting a long position of unpledged CMKX shares into the DTC trust – showing them as available to be borrowed.

The main effects of this covering:

1) It drastically reduces the number of naked short shares in CMKX. In the example (see 58 – 59 above), the short-seller sold 1,000 naked shares into the market (and failed on it’s settlement) but 2,000 shares ended up being legally owned (1,000 by the buyer and 1,000 by the DTC lender). With the accounting change, in this example, there is now only the short-sellers initial settlement failure which remains open, and the buyer becomes the sole owner of the 1,000 shares.

2) As DTC Member Lenders re-account their “loans to the DTC” as sales, it reduces, and likely completely eliminates, their “long positions” in CMKX, which would also significantly reduce, if not completely eliminate, the DTC’s “borrowing pool” for CMKX

When this “phase” of covering is complete, there should be one settlement failure for every fake share held in the retail market.

IMO

----------------------------------------------------

WHAT A GREAT POST...PLEASE CIRCULATE THIS EVERYONE!!!

Oaks (aimho)



 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
RJR wrote re a repost:
"They asked this post to be circulated. I don't know how they know so take it for what it is worth."
----------------------------------------

RJR - Who is the "they" to whom you refer?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Morning everyone! Anyone else excited today? Perhaps feeling like a little kid on Christmas Eve? Or did all of you forget what tomorrow is? Tomorrow's Sarki Day when CMKX hits .10 and becomes a fully reporting company! Make those financial plans now as the big windfall hits tomorrow! Remember, he knows things!
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Upside - you dont seem to be on your best beahviour this morning - be nice now and play well with others.....
 
Posted by will on :
 
I think you're playing just fine, UpMan. Outragious claims and people need to be held accountable, less everyone forgets sarki's outlandish claims. It's irresponsible to make such predictions, and it's silly to think you won't be called on them when they fail to materilize.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Morning everyone! Anyone else excited today? Perhaps feeling like a little kid on Christmas Eve? Or did all of you forget what tomorrow is? Tomorrow's Sarki Day when CMKX hits .10 and becomes a fully reporting company! Make those financial plans now as the big windfall hits tomorrow! Remember, he knows things!


 


Posted by stockguy123 on :
 
see below, this is posted in my ameritrade acct today. Can someone tell me what the shares are for ?

CMKM DIAMONDS INC CASAVANT RESTRICTED
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Will -

Dont disagree - just trying to add some humor to this whole adventure.....

Cheers
 


Posted by will on :
 
LOL! I was thinking "it" is humorous enough. They could buy Fort Knox for $10, and the PPS would still be laying there at .0001 - .0003, because of the hillarious amount of O/S.

quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Will -

Dont disagree - just trying to add some humor to this whole adventure.....

Cheers



 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
We all ( myself included _ keep talking about the o/s and the naked shorting. After this latest PR which I have to admit is one of their more detailed and professional ones, I have to really question what is going on. I dont think that this ( no pps movement ) can solely be accountable by
1. Just the o/s
2. Naked Shorting
3. Naught MM's
4. Poor PR's
5. Shareholders in the dark etc...
There really has to be somthing going on, and personally IMO, dont beleive that it is just the o/s - although the math does show that it is possible this is the reason. Anyway, I am holding 5 mil at 0.0001 and am still hoping for the best - not millions, but a nice new small boat would be nice

JEAL

quote:
Originally posted by will:
LOL! I was thinking "it" is humorous enough. They could buy Fort Knox for $10, and the PPS would still be laying there at .0001 - .0003, because of the hillarious amount of O/S.


[This message has been edited by JEAL (edited October 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JEAL:
quote:
Anyway, I am holding 5 mil at 0.0001 and am still hoping for the best - not millions, but a nice new small boat would be nice.

Well, if it doesn't work out how about a 12 year old bass boat with a 30 horse merc? I'll sell you that pretty cheap!
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Does it come with daimonds, gold or uranium in it?


quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by JEAL:
Well, if it doesn't work out how about a 12 year old bass boat with a 30 horse merc? I'll sell you that pretty cheap!


 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I have a sell order in at .10 for 2M shares. When it sells tomorrow morning, I'm gonna have a party (you are all invited).
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Morning everyone! Anyone else excited today? Perhaps feeling like a little kid on Christmas Eve? Or did all of you forget what tomorrow is? Tomorrow's Sarki Day when CMKX hits .10 and becomes a fully reporting company! Make those financial plans now as the big windfall hits tomorrow! Remember, he knows things!


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JEAL:
quote:
Does it come with daimonds, gold or uranium in it?

Nope, just some old dried fish blood.
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Is that extra?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:

Nope, just some old dried fish blood. [/B]



 


Posted by will on :
 
I wouldn't be taking my party clothes to the cleaners, there won't be a party if you have to sell at .10 to have it.

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
I have a sell order in at .10 for 2M shares. When it sells tomorrow morning, I'm gonna have a party (you are all invited).


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JEAL:
quote:
Is that extra?

No, but my cleaning of it certainly would be!
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
UCAD and CMKX are going to merge soon. Info found online. That's the reason, everything has not been on the up and up.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Please feel free to support it with link....

quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
UCAD and CMKX are going to merge soon. Info found online. That's the reason, everything has not been on the up and up.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
UCAD and CMKX are going to merge soon. Info found online. That's the reason, everything has not been on the up and up.

Oh? Please post the source.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
lets see a company with a 30 million o/s merging with a company with a 779 billion o/s...a company with 3 producing gold mines, equipment to process the ore to at least the first separation, a mine in south america thats close to digging diamonds, about 30% of the fabled sask. diamond claims, property with equipment & buildings to do final refining of ore merging with a company with 1 producing gold mine, 20% of the same diamond claims & 1 shell company & 200 billion shares of a second shell company & 50% of a uranium claim not even tested yet...yep i can see ucad shareholders voting that merger in. it would be a no-brainer, just pass a lot of that aged opium out they found in canadain woods & it would fly
 
Posted by will on :
 
Why is that acceptable to not be on the up and up? LOL! Another. "we can't expose the master plan", scenario. C'mon people, there is no justification for the lack of honesty and forthrightness.

quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
UCAD and CMKX are going to merge soon. Info found online. That's the reason, everything has not been on the up and up.


 


Posted by will on :
 
"Info found online"
Well, I see how quick that "info" was posted.
Only had 30 minutes to support that claim now.

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
All in anticpation of the 0.10 and fully reporting....this is the start - its all coming to light now...!!!!
 
Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
UPSIDE:
How much do you want for the bass boat?
Aluminum or fiberglass?
Does it float??
Does the motor run?

"Well, if it doesn't work out how about a 12 year old bass boat with a 30 horse merc? I'll sell you that pretty cheap!"

[This message has been edited by SmokingUSA (edited October 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by pikespeakorbust on :
 
http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/newsit/newsit_newsit.aspx?bid=B-388003-U:UCAD&symbol=UCAD&news_region=U

I found this article interesting on the stockwatch website
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
bet it was zen or sterling or dr. d that said it. one day and not in the near term cmkx will pay off but it wont be by merging with ucad. i wouldn't be suprised if that 200 billion sggm becomes cmkx one day or even CIM with a 200 billion o/s but to go from 779 billion to 30 million??
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
SmokingUSA wrote:
Does it float??
--------------------

Not if it has anything to do with CMKX! LOL

That IS a major unknown! LOL

 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
What is this link - cant get to it as I am at work, firewall blocked it - and only see the first few lines when you type UCAD nad CMKX merger in to Yahoo....
www.i n v e s t o r s h u b .com/boards/ read_msg.asp?message_id=3126083


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Member posted October 20, 2004 16:01
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/newsit/newsit_newsit.aspx?bid=B-388003-U:UCAD&symbol=UCAD&news_region=U
I found this article interesting on the stockwatch website

========================================

did you read any of the comments on the bottom of that article??? the first one almost has me ready to sell my cmkx just on principle. to try and quote scripture in defending cmkx???!!!! seriously, anyone thinking thats ok...PLEASE do not drink any kool-aid at the races!!!!!
 


Posted by pikespeakorbust on :
 
http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/newsit/newsit_newsit.aspx?bid=B-387111-U:CMKX&symbol=CMKX&news_region=U

another interesting article
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I can see their point of views the thing I dont understand why waste so much time telling people to be carefull of a stock that aint worth a hill of beans. come on .0002 thats really worth spending that much time money and energy telling people to be carefull of it. what about cdvj/pavp and csjj those were horrible. I would not spend that much time putting out article after article on them with so much emotion behind it. honestly I think most have an average position of 20 million shares. at .0002 thats only about 5 grand. for most people thats not our life savings. come on!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
By Rebecca Bream and Nicol Degli Innocenti, Financial Times


JOHANNESBURG, South Africa — For years, De Beers of South Africa dominated the world diamond market and production was concentrated in southern Africa. But now a number of companies — some big and established, others small upstarts — are seeking to produce the sparklers from other parts of the globe.

De Beers says it now controls less than half of rough diamond production, down from a market share of more than 70% 10 years ago. Although about 40% of diamonds still come from Botswana or South Africa, rising prices have stimulated gem exploration and mining in a wider range of countries from Brazil to India.

Diversified mining groups Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton broke into the market in the late 1990s with big projects in Canada, and state-owned production has been increasing in Russia and Angola.

Demand for diamond jewelry is strong in the United States, the main market, but is growing even faster among newly wealthy consumers in China and India.

But existing mine production has peaked, and producers have sold their stockpiles of gems. It has been 10 years since the last significant diamond discoveries — BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto's mines in Canada — and questions over future supply have pushed up prices.

These conditions have enticed more mining companies into the diamond market. Many are pursuing exploration projects discarded by other prospectors when the market was less attractive.

Diamond mining is relatively simple, but it is hard to find a suitable deposit. Kimberlites, deposits of volcanic rock associated with diamonds, occur all over the world, but only 1% contain diamonds and only 1% of those yield enough to be worth mining.

"There are fewer than 20 kimberlites in the world that matter," said Keith Johnson, chief executive of Rio Tinto's diamond division.

Diamond mines are expensive and time-consuming to develop, making it hard for smaller mining companies to succeed without help from a major firm, he said.

Central and West Africa hold great promise for diamond discoveries, analysts say, but past efforts to look for kimberlites have been interrupted by war and civil unrest.

Mano River has formed a joint venture with BHP Billiton to look for diamonds in Sierra Leone, whose civil war was declared over in 2002, and the group also is exploring in neighboring Liberia.

BHP Billiton, with De Beers, is also in talks with the state-owned diamond company in Congo about acquiring projects in that country.

Tony Williams, executive chairman of European Diamonds, said, "New sources of diamonds are very valuable, that is why people are prepared to take political risk in Sierra Leone" or Congo.

His company is hoping to develop a diamond mine in eastern Finland, in an area that shares the same geology as northwestern Russia, home to two large gem deposits.

"Russia is the wild card in the diamond business," said James Picton, a diamond mining analyst at brokerage firm W.H. Ireland Group, who thinks the country could have more diamond-producing potential than Canada.

Many Russian diamond deposits, such as the Grib kimberlite near Arkhangelsk in northwest Russia, have not been fully developed because of legal or financial problems.

Canada, Russia and West and Central Africa are regarded by analysts as the areas where big new diamond discoveries are most likely to be made, but geologists are also active in India and Brazil, encouraged by the two countries' past production of diamonds.

"Historically, India has been the home of some of the largest diamonds ever found," said Melissa Sturgess, chief executive of Dwyka Diamonds, which is exploring in Andra Pradesh with BHP Billiton.

India was the main source of diamonds in the world until 1725, when gems were discovered in Brazil. The South American country then became the leading diamond producer in the 19th century, but supply dwindled in the 20th century and southern Africa came to prominence.

River Diamonds and Brazilian Diamonds are two companies that hope they can revive the industry by using modern exploration technology to locate new deposits.

Despite all the exploration activity taking place elsewhere, Gary Ralfe, De Beers' chief executive, thinks that Botswana and South Africa will remain the main producers.

"The mines in Canada are rich but small and do not have a long life," he said. "Russia has the mine resources to continue to produce its current share of 20% of world production but not to increase it significantly. Looking ahead, there is nothing to disturb southern Africa's position as the greatest source of production."


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
no good news?? what about their last 7 prs they certainly were not that bad.
 
Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
sdrobert:
You forgot to add MASG and the old Kmart stock to your list!!!!!!
Along with a lot of others if I would go
back in history!!!!

QUOTE:
_________________________________________
"sdrobert
Member posted October 20, 2004 16:29 I can see their point of views the thing I dont understand why waste so much time telling people to be carefull of a stock that aint worth a hill of beans. come on .0002 thats really worth spending that much time money and energy telling people to be carefull of it. what about cdvj/pavp and csjj those were horrible. I would not spend that much time putting out article after article on them with so much emotion behind it. honestly I think most have an average position of 20 million shares. at .0002 thats only about 5 grand. for most people thats not our life savings. come on!"
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
All the partners hit hard today

SGGM
GEMM
ECPN
SGF
etc...
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by SmokingUSA:
quote:
UPSIDE:
How much do you want for the bass boat?
Aluminum or fiberglass?
Does it float??
Does the motor run?

Smoking,
Thanks for the inquiry but I was just joking around with JEAL. I've got a 1993 or 1994 16' Lund Rebel. I keep it under cover in the winter and I have the motor rebuilt every 2 or 3 years so yeah, it's in pretty good shape. I'm really not selling her though even though I don't have the time to get out much any more. At least not until CMKX hits, then I'll be on the water every day, probably with a new and bigger boat though.
 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Upside:
When it hits, come on up and we could spend the day watersking. Big party up here next
fourth of July!!
May be add a cmkx party along with it!!

Quote;
"Thanks for the inquiry but I was just joking around with JEAL. I've got a 1993 or 1994 16' Lund Rebel. I keep it under cover in the winter and I have the motor rebuilt every 2 or 3 years so yeah, it's in pretty good shape. I'm really not selling her though even though I don't have the time to get out much any more. At least not until CMKX hits, then I'll be on the water every day, probably with a new and bigger boat though. "
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by SmokingUSA:
quote:
Upside:
When it hits, come on up and we could spend the day watersking. Big party up here next
fourth of July!!
May be add a cmkx party along with it!!

Where are you? I'm in Southeast Wisconsin. Anywhere near there? Hate to ask but can I bring my wife too? LOL
 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Upside:
Heck yeah, bring the wife the more the better!
Approx an hour south of Duluth Mn and approx an hour north of Eau Claire WI...
(Especially if she likes to ski)

"Where are you? I'm in Southeast Wisconsin. Anywhere near there? Hate to ask but can I bring my wife too? LOL"
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Piece of cake. 6 hours tops from my place. See ya next 4th. Maybe I'll grab Will and bring his rotten azz along. He's not too far from me either.
 
Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Upside
You my as well grab Will too!
May be then he won't be so skeptical
about cmkx. Either that or he'll say
I told ya so!!
We'll have to add a cmkx party to this if
all goes well! My wife would really love me for that. I have to run some one just entered my computer!!

If you are any where near Kenosha stop and pick up my old buddy!

If you are any where near Kenosha stop and pick up my old buddy!
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if cmkx hits I'll join ya if we make it in lake michigan. i'll head out from my backyard into st. clair river, up through lake huron & down lake michigan...lol as i'll be retired & looking for some summer fun. anyways always wanted to go from my house to chicago by water..lol
 
Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
bill1352:
Just sail up to Lake Superior some how
and I'll pick ya up in Superior!!
Heck we my as well make it a CMKX party.


 


Posted by will on :
 
OK, you can all wake up now. Plan on being at home next 4th of July. Unless, of course the theme of your party is "I TOLD YA SO"

LOL !!!!
 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Will:
You can come even if it turns out to be
an I TOLD YA SO PARTY!!!
You can tell me all day long how much
more gas for the boat I could of had all day LONG!!! LOL!! Well better drop the subject and you guys can start analyzing again and
doing DD and I'll go back to just stopping by to read!!
HAPPY TRADING

"OK, you can all wake up now. Plan on being at home next 4th of July. Unless, of course the theme of your party is "I TOLD YA SO"

LOL !!!!"
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
first where is that info (link) second both bashers and pumpers dont think they will merge.
also what has not been on the up and up. the prs dont seem to be that bad

quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
UCAD and CMKX are going to merge soon. Info found online. That's the reason, everything has not been on the up and up.


 


Posted by will on :
 
I pointed out a big difference in the PR's regarding the core samples. Seems eveyone just ignored it, or didn't care.
I've been saying for months most sample reports note the number of hairs on the drill operator's head, ours says, diamnondferus present. Big big, difference regarding detailed reporting.
Those type of incomplete, ambiguous PR's "dont seem to be that bad". The last ten PR's have dividends, share swaps, $, and blah blah blah as subject matter. Some by nature have to be accurate when shares and $ are involved. Past that they're as clear as mud, and as detailed as the universe.
What I'm trying to say is, is it ok, is it good, to use secrecy to not be "on the up and up", or is it good enough to not "seem to be that bad". When you look at well managed companies, do they justify not being forthright with the above excuses?

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Bill - I am just up the road here - close to London, ON Canada, can I catch a ride - I hate to invist my self, but well - heck........I'll beg.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Happy Sarki day to one and all. Today is the day that Sarki Claus delivers as promised. Let's hope we all get what we wished for and were promised!
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Is my program wigging out or what...? It says that CMKX closed at .47064 and the AnnHI .33560 with AnnLOW .61392 and now it is back (of course) to 0.0002 WTF is up with that?
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
LOL sarki claus

...t'was the night before filing...
 


Posted by Bryan_J on :
 
Sorry for the dumb question here... I am newbie.

What does it mean when the volume keeps growing exponentially but the price doesnt budge?
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Its called Manupilation

------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Or dilution
 
Posted by will on :
 
It's called CMKX, of course.
 
Posted by Bryan_J on :
 
any chance that it could drop back to .0001? I'm holding a limit there.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
El Capitan Precious Metals Signs Loi With AuRIC Metallurgical Laboratories to Process Precious Metals From Its El Capitan Mine and Completes $1,000,000 Private Placement
Thursday October 21, 9:59 am ET


PHOENIX, AZ--(MARKET WIRE)--Oct 21, 2004 -- El Capitan Precious Metals, Inc. (OTC BB:ECPN.OB - News) announced today the signing of a Letter of Intent with AuRIC Metallurgical Laboratories, LLC whereby AuRIC will be installing processes to recover the precious metals separated from the iron ore mined at the Company's El Capitan Mine in New Mexico. AuRIC has already begun work at the mine that will continue as the parties work to execute a definitive agreement, which is anticipated to occur in the next thirty days.

The Company intends to produce a pelletized magnetic fraction mined from El Capitan for the sale and shipment to various US steel companies. Meanwhile, for the next six months AuRIC will be continuing its ongoing research and development efforts and start the construction of a 10 tons per day Pilot Scale Precious Metals Recovery facility to process the non-magnetic fraction of the ore.

"The potential of producing precious metals while making a high-grade, pelletized iron ore product from the El Capitan site is very exciting and we are pleased to participate in this leading edge opportunity," AuRIC Managing Partner, Ahmet Altinay said.

The Company also announced it has completed a $1,000,000 private placement of common stock and warrants. This placement was led by Perkins Capital Management of Minneapolis, Minnesota.

El Capitan President/CEO, Chuck Mottley stated, "AuRIC is known in the mining industry as a leader in the recovery of platinum and palladium. The $1,000,000 in new capital will allow us to accelerate our mining plans to help meet our current demand for iron-ore and potentially prove up the levels of platinum and other precious metals at El Capitan.

"This is a very exciting time for the El Capitan shareholders. We believe we are well positioned to benefit from both the world-wide shortage of iron ore and possibly a platinum discovery much larger than we originally believed," Mr. Mottley continued.

El Capitan Precious Metals, Inc. is a development stage company that owns a 40% interest in the El Capitan mine located near Capitan, New Mexico as well as a joint venture and 20% ownership of 13 mining claims and other assets known as the C.O.D. Property located near Kingman, Arizona.

 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
It has touched there in the last few days - really hard to tell.

quote:
Originally posted by By-Hi/Sell-Lo:
any chance that it could drop back to .0001? I'm holding a limit there.


 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
Can anybody tell me why the volume is high on this stock and she is not moving?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Same answer as always ludinlo. The volume as a percent of the o/s is miniscule. It's nowhere near the volume needed to create pressure either up or down.
 
Posted by Waveslider on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pikespeakorbust:
http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/newsit/newsit_newsit.aspx?bid=B-388003- U:UCAD&symbol=UCAD&news_region=U

I found this article interesting on the stockwatch website


-------------------------------------^^^

Supreme Court of British Columbia Slams Stockwatch
« Thread started on: Today at 11:30am »
Posted by: zeninvestor32 Date:10/21/2004 11:37:29 AM
Post # 18983 http://tinyurl.com/6c5ah

READ THIS

Great find by Nuffy on the CMKX thread. Read this and you will never believe another word from Stockwatch "journalists" again. Note the initial comment from the Supreme Court of British Columbia "the conduct of the defendants in the conduct of this action and in the manner on which it reported on the proceedings was sufficiently reprehensible as to merit an award of special costs." Also, this was great: "the Mudry [stockwatch "reporter"] articles were one-sided, harsh and contained extravagant epithets such as the characterization of Dr. Ager as "a peddler of worthless salted property"". LOL Oh just read it. It's a hoot. And pretty good insight into whether or not you should read one word of Lee Webb.
http://www.lawsonlundell.com/resources/DefamationBriefingNote_June2003.pdf
http://tinyurl.com/3ey4y

Also for another hoot, check out this link, wherein poor little Canjex Publishing, owner of Stockwatch cries and cries about how poor they are and how this suit will possibly bankrupt them because they have nooooo money. I leave it up to you, the reader, to decide if you think Stockwatch is really a penniless, no-asset company or simply a shell for the much larger short hedge funds to continue to publish hatchet jobs with impunity on stocks they could be shorting. You know MY opinion.
http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/Jdb-txt/CA/03/06/2003BCCA0612.htm http://tinyurl.com/6fqmd

Z
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Come on, Doji, no one has to sell a hatchet job on CMKX. They do it to themselves time after time.

Is it still Sarki day? LOL
 


Posted by will on :
 
Wonder if I can get sarki to buy just 1/2M of my shares of this crap at .10. Shucks, for that matter I'd take .01, sarki man.
Two more hours and I think your credibility is completely gone. Your predicting days should end now, sarki. Keep your inside, my sources told me information, to yourself.


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Good find - worth a read if nothing else

quote:
Originally posted by Waveslider:


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Well there you go Hi / Low - 0.0001

quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
It has touched there in the last few days - really hard to tell.



 


Posted by will on :
 
It's been trading between .0001 & .0003 for weeks. Try to buy at .0001, then try to sell at .0003, .0002 might even be difficult to sell at.

quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Well there you go Hi / Low - 0.0001



 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Will -

Havent added anything since my original purchase earlier this year at 0.0001. Are you finding it difficult to change it up between 0.0001 and 0.0003?


quote:
Originally posted by will:
It's been trading between .0001 & .0003 for weeks. Try to buy at .0001, then try to sell at .0003, .0002 might even be difficult to sell at.



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
so where's our boy sarki??? lol. he's ok just a bit excitable at least he has a positive attitude without the wild theories, just wild pps increases...lol. one day he may be right, just not today.
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
You can't buy at 0001 (been trying). just another gamble.
I am not trying to sell at 0002, I dont know if you can sell for 0002.
By the way..forget about Melvin's and Sarki's dates. UC specified a concrete date (month end) in his webcast. We will know something abt reporting by then.. 6 more trading days..
Will see.

quote:
Originally posted by will:
It's been trading between .0001 & .0003 for weeks. Try to buy at .0001, then try to sell at .0003, .0002 might even be difficult to sell at.


[This message has been edited by TruthTeller (edited October 21, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
NOPE. Bought back in March and April, ain't tried to buy or sell since. I'm just betting there isn't anyone buying at .0001 and selling at .0003. If there is, I'd like to hear from them.
My point is/was, been hitting .0001, .0003 regularly for weeks now, it isn't anything new, but those buys and sells seem to be between MM's not the public.
I could be wrong, but I doubt it. Anyone having success at those buy and sell levels, let us know.

quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Will -

Havent added anything since my original purchase earlier this year at 0.0001. Are you finding it difficult to change it up between 0.0001 and 0.0003?




 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
Is it still Sarki day? LOL

Yes it is and I for one am disapointed. Hung my stocking by the chimney with care last night and old Sarki Claus only filled it with kimberlite that was completely devoid of diamonds. Must have come from the Carolyn pipe.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
will...wwjd said the other day she was buying at .0002 but i don't think she tried selling.
 
Posted by will on :
 
She bought, or intended to buy at .0002?

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
will...wwjd said the other day she was buying at .0002 but i don't think she tried selling.


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I picked up a million yesterday and another million today at .0002. I didn't think an order would fill at .0001. I may try that tomorrow.
 
Posted by will on :
 
OK sarki, looks like a .0002 close, you just missed by .0998 cents. not bad.
Time to pack your prediction bag and quiet yourself. You may try again when it hits .001.
CDVJ at .25 by years end, and CMKX .10 by October 21. Strike one, and Roger Clemens is winding up to serve you that CDVJ strike two.

 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
I picked up a million yesterday and another million today at .0002. I didn't think an order would fill at .0001. I may try that tomorrow.

I've had an open buy order for 2M @ .0001 since 10/6.
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Does this mean that sarki's deep throat undercover source was just a blowup doll full of air.Actually he was close they are fully distorting.LOL Good Luck and who knows maybe by christmas with alot of luck there will be diamonds,you just have to squeeze that lump of coal real real hard.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Yahoo shows that the last trade on CMKX was at 3:32 as of 4:19

Does anyone see that or find it odd?
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I sold a million at .0002 last week and then today I sold another million at .0002. Today's sell took 4 1/2 hrs. to finally go through.
quote:
Originally posted by will:
NOPE. Bought back in March and April, ain't tried to buy or sell since. I'm just betting there isn't anyone buying at .0001 and selling at .0003. If there is, I'd like to hear from them.
My point is/was, been hitting .0001, .0003 regularly for weeks now, it isn't anything new, but those buys and sells seem to be between MM's not the public.
I could be wrong, but I doubt it. Anyone having success at those buy and sell levels, let us know.



 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
I've had an open buy order for 2M @ .0001 since 10/6.

lol
I guess I won't bother then. Ain't gonna happen.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tigertony:
Does this mean that sarki's deep throat undercover source was just a blowup doll full of air.Actually he was close they are fully distorting.LOL Good Luck and who knows maybe by christmas with alot of luck there will be diamonds,you just have to squeeze that lump of coal real real hard.

If we find tons and tons of diamonds, lumps of coal is not what we will squeeze out of the MMs. lol


 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
I hear you we would all like to get a hold of these mm guys.They are like gods and control the market fate to a good degree.Good Luck
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Does this mean we are being taken to the cleaners.... http://www.laundrytoday.com/archives/vol_7_2/mission_industries.htm

It seems D W Doc Wiener is involved in the laundry business as well as in D W Ventures which shows up on the following claim map.
http://www.explorationgis.com/falc_detail.html
 


Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
Here are the cmkx pics from Ecuador, Roger Glenn is in there too.
http://www.cmkxpics.com/ecuador/
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Does this mean we are being taken to the cleaners.... http://www.laundrytoday.com/archives/vol_7_2/mission_industries.htm

It seems D W Doc Wiener is involved in the laundry business as well as in D W Ventures which shows up on the following claim map.
http://www.explorationgis.com/falc_detail.html


After further checks, it seems that there is a Canadian company called D W Ventures and it does not seem to be related to the Nevada company. Sorry.


 


Posted by will on :
 
So, no buys at .0001, and no sells at .0003?

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Hey Will,
Did you see the link to the Ecuador pics that Ruh420 posted? There's also pictures there of the Chicago races. See anyone you recognize?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
For anyone interested, heres a link to a picture of Will & me at the Chicago races:
http://www.cmkxpics.com/chicago/pages/way-2-cute_jpg.htm

I'm the one in the shorts.

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited October 21, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
From what I heard on here, probably the who's hungry pic.That's Will making his plate...with the Jeff Arend shirt and Got CMKX hat.Am I right?HA HA HA!
http://www.cmkxpics.com/chicago3/pages/who's-hungry_jpg.htm

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 21, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
You're close Highway. Will's the one on the right holding the tray.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
HE HE HE,funny stuff.
 
Posted by bigeezee on :
 
New Theory:
This stock is like a baby pigeon.

Anybody ever see a baby pigeon? I know I never have, but there has to be baby pigeons, right!

Don't worry, this will one day be a pigeon if your patient.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
New Theory:
This stock is like a baby pigeon.
Anybody ever see a baby pigeon? I know I never have, but there has to be baby pigeons, right!

Don't worry, this will one day be a pigeon if your patient.


Yeah, and there's also baby lions and grizzly bears that everyone seems to love when they're young and then one day when you least expect it, they kill you.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Ever visited that square in Venice that is really loaded with pigeons? There's also a lot of sh:t to duck and step around. LOL
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Ok I finaly lost my patients Ive put an sell order in for 10,500,000 for .10 I am going to leave it there even if it doesnt sell to Im 65 I think that would make a nice retirement.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea by then the price of a bullet might be 10,500,000 times .0002, and you can retire yourself with one in the temple.

quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
Ok I finaly lost my patients Ive put an sell order in for 10,500,000 for .10 I am going to leave it there even if it doesnt sell to Im 65 I think that would make a nice retirement.


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
how did the party go i missed it lol

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
I have a sell order in at .10 for 2M shares. When it sells tomorrow morning, I'm gonna have a party (you are all invited).


 


Posted by Bialystock on :
 
Well I admit I haven't been following this one as closely as I used to, since it's been stuck for a while now, but I just checked my Ameritrade account and see that in addition to my UCAD shares I now have:

CMKM DIAMONDS INC CASAVANT RESTRICTED

I thought I would see CIM shares...is that what these are? Thanks for any help.
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
LMAO
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Yea by then the price of a bullet might be 10,500,000 times .0002, and you can retire yourself with one in the temple.



 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
I sold a million at .0002 last week and then today I sold another million at .0002. Today's sell took 4 1/2 hrs. to finally go through.


Why in the world would you be selling at these prices anyway. Have you gone LOCO. They are getting ready to go fully reporting and your selling. Big mistake!

 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bialystock:
Well I admit I haven't been following this one as closely as I used to, since it's been stuck for a while now, but I just checked my Ameritrade account and see that in addition to my UCAD shares I now have:

CMKM DIAMONDS INC CASAVANT RESTRICTED

I thought I would see CIM shares...is that what these are? Thanks for any help.


Yes those are CIM shares. They will play a big part in Roger's plan IMHO
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
Ok I finaly lost my patients Ive put an sell order in for 10,500,000 for .10 I am going to leave it there even if it doesnt sell to Im 65 I think that would make a nice retirement.

If you can hold to your word, That would be better than any 401k plan 100fold. It will be tough to hold through the ups and downs, but those who do hold will be very very wealthy in 20 yrs. I put 2 mill. shares in my IRA account for retirement. Smartest thing I have ever done IMO.
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Unfortunately Sarki never called me, so I had to cancel the party. Maybe next decade.
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
how did the party go i missed it lol



 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Yea by then the price of a bullet might be 10,500,000 times .0002, and you can retire yourself with one in the temple.


Will, I've always valued much of what you post. However, I'm a bit surprised at the above post. That's not funny. Obviously you are not nearing retirement and I KNOW you don't have much hope for this stock. Please don't dampen the hope that others have. Thanks.

 


Posted by will on :
 
C'mon dw, don't be such a stick in the mud. It was humor, my friend, lighten up. Things aren't bullet gloomy yet. Was a joke, dw, if it offended you, I'm sorry. Next time I'll include the (LOL!), ok.

quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Will, I've always valued much of what you post. However, I'm a bit surprised at the above post. That's not funny. Obviously you are not nearing retirement and I KNOW you don't have much hope for this stock. Please don't dampen the hope that others have. Thanks.


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
C'mon dw, don't be such a stick in the mud. It was humor, my friend, lighten up. Things aren't bullet gloomy yet. Was a joke, dw, if it offended you, I'm sorry. Next time I'll include the (LOL!), ok.


Will, because you have always been such a realist about this stock, sometimes it seems you have completely given up on it. I thought that was out of character for you. I hope you have tons of this stock and will be pleasantly surprised soon. You're a good guy. Thanks for the clarification.

 


Posted by Bialystock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
Yes those are CIM shares. They will play a big part in Roger's plan IMHO

Thanks AZ.
 


Posted by glfpimp on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Yeah, and there's also baby lions and grizzly bears that everyone seems to love when they're young and then one day when you least expect it, they kill you.


Thats funny.


 


Posted by sarki316 on :
 
Guys I am back. Before you say anything I found out that CMKX has filed there papars to the SEC to become fully reporting and the 21 of October was the date it supposed to get approved from the SEC However CMKX is still waiting for the SEC to approve it.

IT WILL GET APPROVED. Bash me all you want but I get my info from my friend who works for BEAR STERNS. He is the one who told me about SIRI AND I BUY 300,000 SHARES AT 0.80 A SHARE. MY FRIEND KNOWS PEOPLE WHO WORK AT THE LAW FIRM WHERE DR. ROGER GLENN WORKS. HE ALSO SAID ROGER GLENN IS A VERY POWERFUL MAN.

FOR NOW ON I WONT POST MY DATES ANYMORE. I WAS JUST SHARE MY INFO. CMKX WILL NOT BE AT 0.0002 FOR A LONG TIME. OCT 31 IS NEXT SUNDAY AND WE WILL FIND OUT ALOT OF INFO BY THEN.
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Thanks Sarki: For having the balls to come back to the CMKX thread. All information is welcomed and I know that this stock has potential. Sorry that we did not have a party on the 21st, but party time IMO will come with this stock. Welcome Back

------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Sarki wrote:
FOR NOW ON I WONT POST MY DATES ANYMORE. I WAS JUST SHARE MY INFO. CMKX WILL NOT BE AT 0.0002 FOR A LONG TIME. OCT 31 IS NEXT SUNDAY AND WE WILL FIND OUT ALOT OF INFO BY THEN.
--------------------------------

Since when has "OCT 31" not been a date? LOL
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by sarki316:
quote:
Guys I am back.

Allright!!! Happy days are here again!
 


Posted by sarki316 on :
 
wallace the shareholders party is from the 29-31 of Octber. I have been reading from other boards that ROGER GLENN will make a speech regarding CMKX. If that is true we will have to wait and see.

WALLACE HOW MANY SHARES OF CMKX DO YOU OWN.
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Wonder if Roger will mention the reverse split, or just let us be surprised by it.....ROFL
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Oh, my....I just got an email from my brother's aunt's boyfriend's ex-wife's new husband that CMKM will hit $1 a share within the next year....trying to confirm that now.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Team -

We all talk about the negative impacts of all the developments and the "let downs" that we have had, and how the pps doesnt move and the shareholders are lef tin the dark and are taken an advantage of.....

However, we know that a r/s is not 100% out of the question, we also know that one way to get the pps to move would be to reduce the o/s by having UC retire them.

Can we brainstorm anything that this organization could do that could change this around....? Even if they found dimaonds of significant value, from what I understand from more experinced people is that the o/s is so high, that it wouldnt move....

What else could they do that is "outside the box" that would help move the pps?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Ed, come on now, this is sarki we're talking about here. He's our current day Nostradamus with his uncanny ability to see the future. It's actually a little scary how clearly he sees what to the rest of us is just a clouded picture of days yet to unfold. That is the one known as sarki. Please sarki, take us by the hand and guide us to the CMKX promised land!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JEAL:
quote:
What else could they do that is "outside the box" that would help move the pps?

Shoot Melvin.


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Upside -

Anything constructive?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by JEAL:
Shoot Melvin.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Upside -
Anything constructive?

Unfortunately, no.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
come on guys...sarki is ok. he gives us positive pps dates without long winded fantasy stories. i'll take sarki any day over zen, dr. d or sterling. keep the guessing coming sarki dont let a bit of ribbing get ya down. one of these time ya might be right and the last laugh will be on us not to mention a very nice profit margin
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Upside
Member posted October 22, 2004 13:22
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
originally posted by JEAL:

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What else could they do that is "outside the box" that would help move the pps?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

bill gates could become one of the cmkx faithfull or maybe if we are real lucky oprah



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by bill1352:
quote:
bill gates could become one of the cmkx faithfull or maybe if we are real lucky oprah

LOL bill but thats about as constructive as my suggestion!


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Rather disappointing -

Tried for some constructive discussions, input and the opportunity for points of view and end up with sarcasm.....
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
IMO, the only way to fix CMKX is a reverse split, on the order of 1 to 100,000. Even if we discover diamonds, and all kinds of precious metals, only a R/S will bring about a PPS rise....and again, THIS IS AN OPINION!!!!
Originally posted by JEAL:
Rather disappointing -

Tried for some constructive discussions, input and the opportunity for points of view and end up with sarcasm.....[/QUOTE]


 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Rather disappointing -

Tried for some constructive discussions, input and the opportunity for points of view and end up with sarcasm.....


I second that JEAL.

My interpretation of their comments.
Upside: 'Shoot Melvin.' - PERSONAL VENDETTA
bill1352: 'bill gates could become one of the cmkx faithfull or maybe if we are real lucky oprah' - PRIVATE PLACEMENT


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
JEAL
Member posted October 22, 2004 13:59
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rather disappointing -
Tried for some constructive discussions, input and the opportunity for points of view and end up with sarcasm.....

===========================
not really trying to be sarcastic JEAL sorry you took it that way just aiming for humor in a bad situation. truth is with the o/s were it is no news can move it much. something has to be done about the o/s first
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Thats all I am after is opinion - no one knows for sure - its all speculation. - thanks for the input

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
....and again, THIS IS AN OPINION!!!!
Originally posted by JEAL:
[/B]


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
with 45,000 faithful i'd say a 40/1 r/s would do the trick. if the o/s was taken down to 20 to 40 billion and there was no naked shorting and the a/s was reduced to the o/s level there wouldn't be an unheld share on the market and most of that would be held by the cmkx cult, (for lack of better term)most of those would never see the market. any buys would drive up the pps because of supply & demand
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Bill - thats what I am getting at....its been mentioned here a 1000 times. The o/s is out to lunch, a definite hurdle to overcome - now how? Retire? More business acquisitions? These are common answers. Is there any "out of the box" ideas.


quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
JEAL
Member posted October 22, 2004 13:59


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if this new gold mine can bring in steady income meaning UC doesn't need to sell shares to keep going with the search for diamonds & can fund cmkx's part of the uranium claims search then an r/s down to 40 billion and proof the a/s was reduced to the same number could alone drive the pps up with the following cmkx has. then any good news on the uranium front, probably the first to be found, could really send it flying as there wouldn't be any shares left on the sell side only ppl taking profits
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Bill - thanks for the "constructive" input.

The one thing that I think you really struck a note on is the fact of steady income. I think this is definelty s astep in order to be 100% reporting with proper intentions.

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
if this new gold mine can bring in steady income meaning UC doesn't need to sell shares to keep going with the search for diamonds & can fund cmkx's part of the uranium claims search then an r/s down to 40 billion and proof the a/s was reduced to the same number could alone drive the pps up with the following cmkx has. then any good news on the uranium front, probably the first to be found, could really send it flying as there wouldn't be any shares left on the sell side only ppl taking profits


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
truth is JEAL i dont think a 40 billion o/s would work for any company on the market except cmkx because of its following and that is out of the box. i'd love to have 100 million shares of cmkx and then an 40/1 r/s but before all the dividends were paid with the split numbers on the dividends sometime in the next yr .you could be sitting mighty pretty

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
I think I have to agree with you - 40 billion is still borderline ridiculous. However the steady income I think is the key....and the precieved potential with the uranium claims also puts a pretty wicked twist to all of this....

Question? If / when CMKX does become reporting, so they have the opportunity again to change their legal entity nanme and/or ticker symbol w/o effect to anything?


quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
truth is JEAL i dont think a 40 billion o/s would work for any company on the market except cmkx because of its following and that is out of the box. i'd love to have 100 million shares of cmkx and then an 40/1 r/s but before all the dividends were paid with the split numbers on the dividends sometime in the next yr .you could be sitting mighty pretty

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 22, 2004).]



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Hey JEAL, I apologize too if I offfended you or anyone else for that matter, that wasn't the intent, just lightening things up on a rather boring day. Anyway, you want "outside the box" things they can do? Ok. First get rid of Melvin (no, I don't mean shoot him) and replace him with someone who is not an embarrasment. Second, announce a reverse split of both the o/s and a/s and couple it with a p/r detailing their business plan for the next 5 years with year by year projections. Third, eliminate all ties to funny cars, motorcycles, racing trucks, etc.

To most companies this is not "outside the box" thinking, it's called honoring your corporate responsibility to the shareholders. CMKX apparently does not believe it has any responsibility to anyone other than its own group of self-serving insiders nor do they have or follow any code of ethics whatsoever. In short, "outside the box" to CMKX would be to do what most companies do as a normal course of business.
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
The company needs to announce a major and i do mean major buyback and retirement of shares.If not,with the numbers,i would say about a 1 for 5,000 r/s.Being fully reporting won't help much.This is one you will have to sit on a long time.Need alot of changes and alot of things to fall just right for this situation to work out at all. IMHO.Good Luck
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
say you had 100 million shares getting all the dividends...the pps was around .0004... thus costing $40,000 you would have 2,850 ucad shares after their split say at $5 pps a yr from now or $14,250.00 plus another $5,000 in gemm half your cost of cmkx and after a 40/1 r/s you'd have 2.5 million shares at about .008 with todays pps or $20,000 in cmkx. a yr from now a good diamond report & a good uranium report is possible and with the cmkx cult holding a .10 pps is possible thus also driving the ucad up. i'd say a very good profit could be made
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Upside - no offense taken - I do have some frsutrations with this board sometimes though.

I agree with you in the business plan, and maybe with any luck, and this "fully reporting" scenario, maybe Mr. Glenn is helping is this as well - who knows.
Regarding the motorsports adventures, I dont really see this as a problem - corportate sponsorship - is a multi billion dollar campaign for everyone. HOWEVER !! I do agree, that before they issue PR's on such, the true priority should be on things such as business plans and updates on exisiting programs / projects...


quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Hey JEAL, I apologize too if I offfended you or anyone else for that matter, that wasn't the intent, just lightening things up on a rather boring day. Anyway, you want "outside the box" things they can do? Ok. First get rid of Melvin (no, I don't mean shoot him) and replace him with someone who is not an embarrasment. Second, announce a reverse split of both the o/s and a/s and couple it with a p/r detailing their business plan for the next 5 years with year by year projections. Third, eliminate all ties to funny cars, motorcycles, racing trucks, etc.

To most companies this is not "outside the box" thinking, it's called honoring your corporate responsibility to the shareholders. CMKX apparently does not believe it has any responsibility to anyone other than its own group of self-serving insiders nor do they have or follow any code of ethics whatsoever. In short, "outside the box" to CMKX would be to do what most companies do as a normal course of business.



 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
They need to come up with something real soon.I don't see ucad being able to hold value,with no cash on hand and no revenues,pretty soon people will see between the smoke and mirrors.can someone tell me what ucad has done,other than invest money that they did'nt have (who knows where it came from) and invest in cmkx who has nothing either yet.I truly don't know how anyone that DD ucad could buy it.Someone tell me what i am missing seriously.Thanks
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ucad will have cash & revenues on the next report they have had at least 2 gold shipments & more coming plus investment cash the next report will not be like the last report
 
Posted by CJEWingnut on :
 
FYI...I've had sells in for .0002 and .0003 in the last week...nothing going through.
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
Thanks for info,if thats the case and they continue it will help.But pps for them compared to where they are as a company is way off.I expect price to still drop a ways.IMHO Good Luck
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JEAL:
quote:
Regarding the motorsports adventures, I dont really see this as a problem - corportate sponsorship - is a multi billion dollar campaign for everyone.

With all due respect, I see it as one huge migraine headache of a problem, here's why. Prior to CMKX/CMKM/CMKI Mr. Casavant, while maybe comfortable, was by no means an extremely wealthy individual. I bought into his diamond exploration business before there was even a thought of funny cars. I now see very little of my investment money going towards what I chose to invest in. What I do see is a lot, and I do mean a lot, of OUR money going towards a funny car and other racing ventures. I witnessed this first hand at the Chicago races and believe me, there is serious, serious money being spent by the company to support this racing effort. Urban could not have afforded this on his own so guess what, you, me, and 40 some thousand other investors are paying for it. This racing circuit they're on has to be costing them millions of dollars per season and they've already said they plan on having a bigger presence next season. I've stood next to the car and believe me, they are not getting much if anything in advertising revenue through the selling of ad space on the car. The biggest one on it was for a mortgage company in Las Vegas and that was maybe 6" x 8". Now, imagine if all of those dollars had instead been poured into what all of us invested in. Assuming everything the company says is true and we actually hold all of those land claims, do you know what could have been accomplished in that same time frame? Instead we know of one set of samples from a known empty pipe. Everything else is rumor. Yet here everyone sits and instead of literally striking up a posse and demanding answers, we spin wild, outlandish fantasies to reassure ourselves that everything will be fine. How this company earned this kind of faith from its shareholders is beyond me. What they have in fact earned is what should be the loudest outcry ever heard from a group of investors. Something akin to "Horton Hears a Who" only this one would be "Urban Hears a Lawsuit". Sadly though, it will never happen. The racing side of CMKX will continue to flourish while the diamond/mineral side will take the back seat.
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Upside - the respect comment was appreciated - but not absolutely neccessay.
You do make some very valid comments. The only thing I can say in return, is that my investments with CMKX has been 7 months. It appears yours, is much longer. My true hopes are that, although we are sponsoring tuck eries, motorcycles and drag cars etc..it show that there is money ( besides ours ). I truly hope that this unfolds to prove such.
I do honestly beleive that something will take place in the next 1 -2 weeks and yes, it may be assocaited with this joint UCAD/CMKX party.
If not, then UC,RG,RW are truly brave in such an invitation of a large mast of people.
For the most part, I respect your insights and thoughts, as you have made some truly valuable comments. But with CMKX in the spotlight by many - manily due to share volume - not PR and business plans, do you honestly beleive that this is as corrupt as many try to point too?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by JEAL:
With all due respect, I see it as one huge migraine headache of a problem, here's why. Prior to CMKX/CMKM/CMKI Mr. Casavant, while maybe comfortable, was by no means an extremely wealthy individual. I bought into his diamond exploration business before there was even a thought of funny cars. I now see very little of my investment money going towards what I chose to invest in. What I do see is a lot, and I do mean a lot, of OUR money going towards a funny car and other racing ventures. I witnessed this first hand at the Chicago races and believe me, there is serious, serious money being spent by the company to support this racing effort. Urban could not have afforded this on his own so guess what, you, me, and 40 some thousand other investors are paying for it. This racing circuit they're on has to be costing them millions of dollars per season and they've already said they plan on having a bigger presence next season. I've stood next to the car and believe me, they are not getting much if anything in advertising revenue through the selling of ad space on the car. The biggest one on it was for a mortgage company in Las Vegas and that was maybe 6" x 8". Now, imagine if all of those dollars had instead been poured into what all of us invested in. Assuming everything the company says is true and we actually hold all of those land claims, do you know what could have been accomplished in that same time frame? Instead we know of one set of samples from a known empty pipe. Everything else is rumor. Yet here everyone sits and instead of literally striking up a posse and demanding answers, we spin wild, outlandish fantasies to reassure ourselves that everything will be fine. How this company earned this kind of faith from its shareholders is beyond me. What they have in fact earned is what should be the loudest outcry ever heard from a group of investors. Something akin to "Horton Hears a Who" only this one would be "Urban Hears a Lawsuit". Sadly though, it will never happen. The racing side of CMKX will continue to flourish while the diamond/mineral side will take the back seat.

[This message has been edited by JEAL (edited October 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Upside,its basic economics.The company has no income and they need funding for racing.Company sponsors it Upside pays for it.You should be proud everytime that car makes it down the track,you helped make it possible.Company's sponsor race cars all the time,of course them and there shareholders are profitable,broke and pps at0.00002,you would think pissed off shareholders,But not the mesmorized cmkx followers,its all good.Remember its part of a never seen before in the history of stocks,0.0002 short of the century.Congratulations (company,diamonds income) we don't need no stinkin diamonds.We got the cmkx funnycar yeah baby.LMAO And for those that this upsets just have a laugh or sell you stock this is all true and if it upsets you thats why because you are actually pissed off at this company too.

[This message has been edited by tigertony (edited October 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
If we are still at 0002 and no possitive (concrete) information comes out, I doubt they will have a party. If they do have a party, I doubt they will show up. If they do show up, yes they are brave

quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
UC,RG,RW are truly brave in such an invitation of a large mast of people.

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Posted by JEAL on :
 
Tony -

Again - strictly opinion on your behalf.

Upside - this is a prime example of the reference I made regarding frustration on this board.


quote:
Originally posted by tigertony:
Upside,its basic economics.The company has no income and they need funding for racing.Company sponsors it Upside pays for it.You should be proud everytime that car makes it down the track,you helped make it possible.Company's sponsor race cars all the time,of course them and there shareholders are profitable,broke and pps at0.00002,you would think pissed off shareholders,But not the mesmorized cmkx followers,its all good.Remember its part of a never seen before in the history of stocks,0.0002 short of the century.Congratulations (company,diamonds income) we don't need no stinkin diamonds.We got the cmkx funnycar yeah baby.LMAO And for those that this upsets just have a laugh or sell you stock this is all true and if it upsets you thats why because you are actually pissed off at this company too.

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Posted by JEAL on :
 
TruthTeller -

This is what led me to the other statement - I honestly believe that there will be "something" within the next week or two. Or some announcement made during this time. - as every shareholder needs to have the same opportunity for hearing news at prime time.
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Jeal show me another company with 0.00002 pps that sponsors race cars and have no income.It is a fact that every one said short of century,wait until dividend.Proven wrong.It is a fact that shareholders would be pissed at other companys that did this.And by non mesmorized shareholders of cmkx that are pissed off about this.I don't see to much of that just being my opinion.You canwant this stock to do good and i hope it does.But the company has done or shown any info, facts, data,for now I am going on facts, not you.Like i told you before i own mlon and am in this type situation,but i make the same comments and jokes on that also on the facts that are out not what i want them to be Good Luck.

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Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Couple short comments: I agree with Upside, that I did not invest in a company with a funnycar. I have been long on CMKX for several years, having bought my first few shares at about .13 a share. Over the years I have averaged down to just over .0001 for 27 million shares. Show me some diamonds, become fully reporting, and I will be happy.

re:UCAD, when CMKX announced the UCAD divvy, I had enough cash lying around to buy 200 little shares of UCAD (at the time about $4.50 a share), and cashed them in at $10.50 when UCAD made its run. IMO you dont need income for a penny stock to make a run, the penny market doesnt operate like the NYSE. I also agree that UCAD will have income from the incoming gold, and may even wind up being a better buy than CMKX.

Meanwhile, we are left with a rats-nest of companies, most of which have nothing. I just hope we all have enough luck to get out of this with our skins. Only time will tell.
Ed

 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
My frustrations on this board dont stem only from this stock, but also from some of the posts that take place here.

NOTE: Understanding that your typo is 0.0002 not 0.00002.

If you would, please refer to my last several posts on this page, and see exactly what my thoughts are before you try to explain how and I other on this board view this stock, as I am quite sure that not "everyone" beleived in this short of the century theory - however, I do beleive it is happeneing, to what degree, I can comment nor can anyone else. Educated guess's and assumptions is all anyone has to go on.

All the best in your investments

Cheers


quote:
Originally posted by tigertony:
Jeal show me another company with 0.00002 pps that sponsors race cars and have no income.It is a fact that every one said short of century,wait until dividend.Proven wrong.It is a fact that shareholders would be pissed at other companys that did this.And by non mesmorized shareholders of cmkx that are pissed off about this.I don't see to much of that just being my opinion.You canwant this stock to do good and i hope it does.But the company has done or shown any info, facts, data,for now I am going on facts, not you.Like i told you before i own mlon and am in this type situation,but i make the same comments and jokes on that also on the facts that are out not what i want them to be Good Luck.

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Posted by Upside on :
 
JEAL,
You posed the question do I honestly believe the company is corrupt. My answer is yes and no. I firmly believe it started out that way, nothing more than a vehicle to support Urban and his family, nice quiet little stock scam like any of the other hundreds there are on the pink sheets. Somewhere along the line though greed set in and things went haywire. This went from being an anonymous little scam to one of epic proportions that there was no getting out of without someone going down hard. Enter Roger Glenn. In my opinion he is here to clean this mess up, maybe even turn it into a legitimate company or at least give it that appearance. I know people will say that he would never risk his reputation that way but that is hogwash. Thanks to us, Urban is a wealthy man and is probably making Roger Glenn wealthy as well. If he can pull Urban and his cronies out of this unscathed, guess who his reputation goes up with and who it goes down with? Goes up in the eye of the corporate world, actually skyrockets, and goes down in the eye of the little guys, the you and me of the world. How is that damaging to Mr. Glenn and his firm?

Anyway, to answer your question, yes I believe it was a scam at first but now I feel that through greed and blatant stupidity they have been forced to turn this into somewhat of a legitimate company.
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
I also agree that UCAD will have income from the incoming gold, and may even wind up being a better buy than CMKX.


Ed


Very true. Remember UCAD has a 15% claim on all CMKX's mineral rights. This includes the Gold and Uranium. Same applies to SGGM with 5%.


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Again Upside - good comments.

After reading that I can almost share that same view. I do beleive that you may be right. This may have started off as a little support for the little ones at home.
But just to spin your scenario a little -
WHAT IF?
Instead of getting in over his head, they actually did trip over something of market proportions that would substantiate the working of a legitimate business.....?

That may be wishful thinking - or the truth - however, yours does seem to be the easist and more obvious to see...


quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
JEAL,
You posed the question do I honestly believe the company is corrupt. My answer is yes and no. I firmly believe it started out that way, nothing more than a vehicle to support Urban and his family, nice quiet little stock scam like any of the other hundreds there are on the pink sheets. Somewhere along the line though greed set in and things went haywire. This went from being an anonymous little scam to one of epic proportions that there was no getting out of without someone going down hard. Enter Roger Glenn. In my opinion he is here to clean this mess up, maybe even turn it into a legitimate company or at least give it that appearance. I know people will say that he would never risk his reputation that way but that is hogwash. Thanks to us, Urban is a wealthy man and is probably making Roger Glenn wealthy as well. If he can pull Urban and his cronies out of this unscathed, guess who his reputation goes up with and who it goes down with? Goes up in the eye of the corporate world, actually skyrockets, and goes down in the eye of the little guys, the you and me of the world. How is that damaging to Mr. Glenn and his firm?

Anyway, to answer your question, yes I believe it was a scam at first but now I feel that through greed and blatant stupidity they have been forced to turn this into somewhat of a legitimate company.



 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I think Urban was HOPING the recent PR's might've pushed the pps a lil' before the party. Sadly they are still flooding the market with shares. imo
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
TruthTeller -

This is what led me to the other statement - I honestly believe that there will be "something" within the next week or two. Or some announcement made during this time. - as every shareholder needs to have the same opportunity for hearing news at prime time.



 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
What is your frustration,you don't want anyone to joke,or point out somethings there doing wrong.I don't see the problem.So go ahead tell me.
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Tony -

Again - strictly opinion on your behalf.

Upside - this is a prime example of the reference I made regarding frustration on this board.




 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JEAL:
quote:
Upside - this is a prime example of the reference I made regarding frustration on this board.


quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by tigertony:
Upside,its basic economics.The company has no income and they need funding for racing.Company sponsors it Upside pays for it.You should be proud everytime that car makes it down the track,you helped make it possible.Company's sponsor race cars all the time,of course them and there shareholders are profitable,broke and pps at0.00002,you would think pissed off shareholders,But not the mesmorized cmkx followers,its all good.Remember its part of a never seen before in the history of stocks,0.0002 short of the century.Congratulations (company,diamonds income) we don't need no stinkin diamonds.We got the cmkx funnycar yeah baby.LMAO And for those that this upsets just have a laugh or sell you stock this is all true and if it upsets you thats why because you are actually pissed off at this company too.


But that was a great post. Just because it's interspersed with humor doesn't make it bad, in fact it adds to it. He's making valid points in a humorous way. If you want to see real b/s posts, look some of mine up. I can go days on end making multiple posts that contribute absolutely nothing.
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Its these statements that frustrate me thats all....nothing more, nothing less.

Talk to you all later, gone for the W/E

Cheers

"LMAO And for those that this upsets just have a laugh or sell you stock this is all true and if it upsets you thats why because you are actually pissed off at this company too."

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Posted by will on :
 
Someone trying to police the thread again. It's not all about the believers, hopeful, and faithful here. Humor, sick humor, dissenting views, and negative, work sometime too.
noah and his deputies left for greener pastures, they claimed to be the policemen here, and it led to some unsvory posting for weeks and weeks.
It's an open board, please don't try to control it your liking Jeal.
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
Upside you look at these things like me.I do the same on the stocks i own ,i make jokes and remark when i see the ugly facts.Yes we all want to make money.But lifes to short to be all pissed off over an 0.0002 stock.If you're frustrated jeal call cmkx and be pissed, not at me for joking and posting what i see.I call it how i see it,my stocks your stocks any stocks, call it straight.Sorry if i offend you,but thats how i am.Good Luck By the way upside name your boat the cmkx it could never sink,she would surely float.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by tigertony:
quote:
By the way upside name your boat the cmkx it could never sink,she would surely float.

Yeah but I'd have to find the maritme version of a Roger Glenn to keep her afloat.
Oh hell, that's another one of my "contribute nothing" posts.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
If you want my opinion.


I believe we are currently acquiring mines and properties that can be made profitable in a short period of time with small upgrades.


These acquisitions will be placed under our CIM spin off shares giving it an instant value and IPO'd.


As far as Cmkx, how you do it is you reverse split say 1000:1, then over a year you let it fall back to .0001. Then you can buy it back at the same pps but with 1/1000th the shares.


Your fiduciary responsibility to shareholders is covered in the dividends themselves.
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Upside 99% of these posts don't contribute anything.thats my point were just along for the ride,good or bad might as well have some fun.Even if i feel i have a great stock and someone says it's a piece of sh#t,i will look at what he says and see if they have some points or facts that may change my mind.If i disagree no big deal jeal.So jeal cmon back and enjoy life,i have nothing against you,and can understand your frustration with the stock.I will trade you half my mlon for the same amount of cmkx just to be sporting.LOL see i can't help it.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
quote:
Your fiduciary responsibility to shareholders is covered in the dividends themselves.

Is that a fact? Here's a boiler plate definition of fiduciary responsibility:

"The fiduciary owes an obligation to carry out the responsibilities with the utmost degree of "good faith, honesty, integrity, loyalty and undivided service of the beneficiaries interest."

Please tell me how CMKX has met this responsibility.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
The dividends are of equal or greater value than the original investment.

That is how.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by RaiderJR:
quote:
The dividends are of equal or greater value than the original investment.
That is how.

Are you getting the same dividends I'm getting? Please break it down for me, I must be missing something.


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Add up all the value of the dividends and they will be equal to or greater than your purchase.

UCAD
CIM
GEMM

and whatever else. UCAD is worth 4100 dollars to me and is more than I paid for the shares.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Here is a post from another, again, I can't verify it.

quote:

Ok...I think you guys have all seen Etrade's "CMKM DIAMONDS INC TENDER OFFER AMEX" ? Right? Right.

Okay, many people called etrade (over 3 credible people) and etrade stated that cusip#125809996 has no current name or ticker but has registered to be on the AMEX already. It is just waiting on the parent company, CMKM, to accept the tender offer. Etrade said that cusip#125809996 will recieve its identity by midnight tonite and will be posted to Etrade accounts tomorrow morining.

Now, on monday cmkx will tender offer our cusip #125809996 shares to the big boy investors that have been waiting on the sidelines for the last few months. Once these big boys buy ours #125xxx (no name yet) shares, then they will IPO it. We will recieve the cash tender offer into our accounts and the company will release news to give valuation to #125xxx. Then it will take off and we will have cash into our accounts.

This is awesome because the new public company #125xxx will have no nss problems since it emerged from a private company.

Later, CMKX will issue another #125xxx dividend to us. Perhaps, it will be the remainder of our current #125xxx dividend. It is speculated that we have only been paid 1/2 of our dividend.

By that time, we should have plenty of cash and stocks that are actually worth something.

Cmkx will then continue with operation dividends and attack the shorts. I believe that the cmkx pps will never really rise as we will now focus on #125xxx and our several dividend companies.



 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
I truly hope ucad is worth 4100 to you when you can sell them.Who knows where they will be,for everyone with dividends,i hope its more.But right now they are worthless.GoodLuck
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
PS

I disagree with his last statement. CMKX will retain mineral claims in Canada and work them. Since this will take a year plus it will give time to correct share problems.

It will eventually be a good company. A long term play.


I do believe those who received the IPO shares will do well short term.

If you received 1 million shares you will likely be a hundred thousand aire or more.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by RaiderJR:
quote:
Add up all the value of the dividends and they will be equal to or greater than your purchase.
UCAD
CIM
GEMM

and whatever else. UCAD is worth 4100 dollars to me and is more than I paid for the shares.


Now that truly is an example of seeing the world through rose colored glasses. Here's how I see it:

UCAD: worthless (as of now)
CIM: worthless

That's all we've received so far, total value? $0.00


 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
RaiderJR i hope you are right,and you guy's hit it big.Good Luck
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Tiger,

I agree with you, but it is possible UCAD will go up in price and be worth much more than current.

In my opinion, when you have a spinoff it is never easy to satisfy everyone, but I believe it would meet legal obligations to all except those who bought after the dividends.


I could be all wrong, this is just my thinking on the whole situation.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Upside,

My theory is dangerous because it could create an impression that CMKX is worthless now and no one would buy.

If my thinking is wrong and they are going to play CMKX then I hurt my own chances.


It is true the divvy's are worthless now, but I doubt Roger Glenn would neglect his responsibilities so openly if he was simply scamming shareholders. There will always be unhappy people, but the idea he could do it so openly is absurd to me.

He has to protect shareholders to some degree or go to jail.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
reguarding the few CIM posts...i too have had in the back of my mind that something was going on with this company as in UC transfering assets into it. the dividend had to be split in half as the a/s of cmkx is 800 billion and the split worked out to twice that. i wouldn't be too suprised if when & if CIM hits the market its pps has real value but remember this dividend is restricted too so even if it goes public it can't be sold. i also agree this is the cover UC's azz play. i think roger took a good look at everything & told UC either come up with something good or learn how to shower without ever dropping the soap
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
Yeah upside you dreamcrusher.Trying to let some facts get in the way.Sheesh can't you be positive.LMAO RaiderJR i Hope one of there theorys is true and monday you are right and all cmkx holders get some cash.Just to many theorys that have'nt panned out Good Luck
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Tony,
From the other thread we both frequent I know you're a bit of a gambling man so help me out with something would you? What kind of odds should I lay down that the convoluted theory in Raiders copied post never comes to pass? I'm thinking of going pretty high if someone wagers on it happening by Monday then lowering the odds, allowing people to pick week long blocks over the course of the next 5 years or so. What do you think? One way or the other, this stock WILL make me rich!
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Upside you are truly an entrepreneure(SP)
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
Bill1352 you have some good thoughts and ways for them to make this work i hope they are thinking that way.If it was'nt for all the share holders i would like to see him have to pick up the soap.But i hope they find a way to save the shareholders as$ which means his also.Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
reguarding the few CIM posts...i too have had in the back of my mind that something was going on with this company as in UC transfering assets into it. the dividend had to be split in half as the a/s of cmkx is 800 billion and the split worked out to twice that. i wouldn't be too suprised if when & if CIM hits the market its pps has real value but remember this dividend is restricted too so even if it goes public it can't be sold. i also agree this is the cover UC's azz play. i think roger took a good look at everything & told UC either come up with something good or learn how to shower without ever dropping the soap


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by bill1352:
quote:
i think roger took a good look at everything & told UC either come up with something good or learn how to shower without ever dropping the soap

Now that's pretty darn funny!
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Just let me know I will help fund it and split with you.Problem is to high of odds only get a few small time 1.00 dollar bets.I would say odds on monday about 790 billion to 1 against it.
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Tony,
From the other thread we both frequent I know you're a bit of a gambling man so help me out with something would you? What kind of odds should I lay down that the convoluted theory in Raiders copied post never comes to pass? I'm thinking of going pretty high if someone wagers on it happening by Monday then lowering the odds, allowing people to pick week long blocks over the course of the next 5 years or so. What do you think? One way or the other, this stock WILL make me rich!


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
The big theory now is a PIPE transaction.


Just looking at the logistics of it, then I think it is possible. One of the uses is restricted 144 stock and using it to IPO.

It comes with a contractual promise to make them tradeable as soon as possible.


quote:

PIPE transactions are privately issued equity or equity-linked securities that are sold to accredited investors under Regulation D by public companies. PIPE issuers range in size from small OTC Bulletin Board companies to large-cap NYSE-traded companies. Transaction sizes have ranged from under $1 million to over $200 million. In 2003, approximately 1,400 PIPE transactions were completed for total proceeds of approximately $18 billion. This activity is up from approximately 800 transactions for proceeds of approximately $14 billion in 2002.

PIPE investors have shown interest across a broad range of industries. In 2003, healthcare and technology/ communications issuers accounted for approximately 42% of proceeds raised, down from approximately 65% in 1998. Companies in many other industries accessed the PIPE market in 2003, including issuers in the mining, chemicals, energy, utilities, consumer, financial, REIT and industrial sectors.

Within the spectrum of equity alternatives for a publicly traded company, a PIPE transaction generally best fits companies with a market capitalization under $400 million that seek an equity infusion of less than $75 million. Traditional public equity alternatives include add-on equity offerings (“secondary” or follow-on offerings) and 144A convertible securities. These transactions are typically underwritten and require extensive institutional and/or retail distribution networks. Due to the need for liquidity in the secondary trading market for these types of securities, as well as the overhead requirement on the part of the underwriter, the minimum transaction size is typically $65 million to $100 million to achieve optimal execution for traditional public offerings.

While a PIPE transaction is marketed to a limited number of investors over a short period of time, a traditional public transaction may require a broader marketing process and, in the case of an add-on offering, the filing of a registration statement with the SEC prior to pricing. This filing process tends to create an overhang in the market, resulting in an “announcement effect” on the issuer’s stock. This announcement effect has been studied, and most practitioners use a proxy of a 15% decline in the stock price prior to pricing. For companies that are able to access traditional public alternatives for larger amounts (typically above $75 million), pricing at the close of the transaction may be more issuer-friendly than a PIPE transaction due to broader marketing and the lack of any liquidity discount associated with receiving unregistered securities. However, careful review of the entire process must be conducted to determine the full array of strengths and weaknesses associated with each alternative.

ISSUER CONSIDERATIONS

Following are the benefits a potential issuer may consider when evaluating a PIPE transaction:

Does not require SEC registration prior to offering
Allows for a more flexible transaction size than traditional public alternatives
Improves balance sheet strength and financial flexibility
Offers greater confidentiality and eliminates typical price declines on filing of traditional public offering (“announcement effect”)
Requires minimal preparation before launch
Increases issuer’s trading liquidity levels and diversifies shareholder base
Allows for a targeted marketing process, reducing management’s time contribution
PIPE TRANSACTION TYPES

PIPE transactions may be issued in a variety of forms, including registered common stock (“registered directs”), unregistered common stock, convertible preferred stock, convertible debt and equity credit lines (“ECLs”).

Registered Direct Common Stock Common stock issued under an existing and effective registration statement. Essentially a traditional add-on offering marketed to, and negotiated with, a select investor universe vs. broad marketing from an institutional and retail sales force. This security offers the investor the benefits of receiving registered shares. Issuers have the benefit of mitigating a liquidity discount and broadening the investor base.
Common Stock Common stock issued as a private placement under Regulation D with an agreement to register the shares as soon as possible after the transaction closes. Provides investors with the ability to build a position in a security and enables the issuer to quickly and quietly access the equity market. A liquidity discount is typically incorporated into the pricing due to the fact that the investor is unable to trade the shares until they are registered.
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Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
The big theory now is a PIPE transaction.

Have to give much lower odds on that one. I've done a little reading up on the subject and that one could have some merit. Plus Mr. Glenn has been involved in a few of them. Also it just sounds right, we'd call it a kimberlite pipe transaction.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Create a football type square thing and the people buy squares. Could use transaction type or date or UC goes to jail.

Something for everybody.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
quote:
In short, "outside the box" to CMKX would be to do what most companies do as a normal course of business. [/B]

very good point and probably the best post of the day.

i agree 100% with you in this one.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by RaiderJR:
quote:
Could use transaction type or date or UC goes to jail.

I've got a hunch though that UC has a "get out of jail free" card.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
ya his name is Roger Glenn. and a pile of cmkx share money

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by RaiderJR:
I've got a hunch though that UC has a "get out of jail free" card.


 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Upside go look at the nvcm thread. I posted last night.I had it typed in this morning and passed.Another great move.Sometimes you just gotta laugh or in this case cry.LOL ouch
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by tigertony:
quote:
Upside go look at the nvcm thread. I posted last night.I had it typed in this morning and passed.Another great move.Sometimes you just gotta laugh or in this case cry.LOL ouch

Yep, we all missed that one. You know sitting at work and typing garbage all day on a CMKX thread doesn't bode well for my finding other stocks. Not the smartest career move on my part either.
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
This week was full of rumours..
First we had 80M A/S of CMKX - What a BS
ETrade calling CIM dividends CMKX tender offer AMEX - This is the topic for the coolAid gang whole week.. Some people said it will debut on AMEX at $20 with 25M A/S. What a crap. Then they talked about PIPE transactions, tender offer blah blah. Seems like they love talking about pipes and joints


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I was crunching numbers on a tender offer. Here are some thoughts.

1. If OS = 40 billion = our dividend


2. Offer increases as value increases.

zinc claim
uranium claim
diamond claims
gold mine or mines
diamond mine in south america


3.

300 million/40 bill = .0075

1 bill/40 billion = .025

3 bill/40 billion = .075

10 bill/40 billion = .25


Depends upon true O/S and the value given. Who really knows.

Could be from 100.00 to 150,000.00


Since our dividend could be 1.6 trillion based, or half of 779 billion which would be

20 billion to start the ipo, then all figures could be divided by 20 billion.

300 mil/20 bil = .015

1 bill/20 bil = .05

3 bil/20 bil = .15

10 bil/20 bil = .5

[This message has been edited by RaiderJR (edited October 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Like most of the poeple on this thread I really hope you are right, we all want to make some money.

quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
TruthTeller -

This is what led me to the other statement - I honestly believe that there will be "something" within the next week or two. Or some announcement made during this time. - as every shareholder needs to have the same opportunity for hearing news at prime time.



 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
We must all be on the same stocks. I got on NCVM last year, and altho the R/S hurt, if it takes off, I could still make a little. Great minds think alike....LOL
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by tigertony:
Yep, we all missed that one. You know sitting at work and typing garbage all day on a CMKX thread doesn't bode well for my finding other stocks. Not the smartest career move on my part either.


 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Well its on its way,went to 2.20 today.hope it keeps flying for you.Good Luck
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I found some other stocks with better odds that I wanted to invest in. Besides, I have plenty more of this stock. (too much more actually!). And yes, people have said I was crazy at times... lol.
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tradingpennys:
[b]I sold a million at .0002 last week and then today I sold another million at .0002. Today's sell took 4 1/2 hrs. to finally go through.


Why in the world would you be selling at these prices anyway. Have you gone LOCO. They are getting ready to go fully reporting and your selling. Big mistake![/B][/QUOTE]


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
from the state of nevada we know CIM had a 25 million a/s before the dividend payment CMKX said in the pr that 40 billion shares were to go to shareholders. the final payment split works out to cmkx having twice the number of shares as it's a/s. again calls to nevada after payment say cmkx's a/s is still 800 billion thus 40 billion CIM shares were not given out in the dividend and no word yet on CIM's a/s but my guess is it was raised to 40 billion with 20 billion to us & 20 billion in the treasury or possibly to be given out at a later date. This has to be UC's butt cover move because we also know UC has screwed up cmkx's share structure and a huge amount of money has come in from selling cmkx shares. the dividends say that there are 779 billion cmkx shares out there if sold at an average of .0002 thats $155,800,000 which should fund any explorations for a number of yrs. debeers/kensington is putting $7.5 million into their mine this yr and has at least that much in already. just the cash that ucad & sggm paid cmkx should cover full exploration of the canadian claims. odds are a huge part of the 779 billion shares are not paid for but given to insiders as bonuses so we probably need to cut the share sell number to about $70 million but still more then enough to fund any project cmkx does. to become reporting cmkx will have to explain where this money went not only to us & the SEC but also the IRS because it is income. so before they do report all of this money will need to have a receit or be in a bank or UC's azz will be in a sling

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 23, 2004).]
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I found this article & thought it was quite interesting. Urban if you are reading this board I suggest you might use this technology!! Beats the arial surveys by 1,000 fold IMO.

UNDERGROUND STOREHOUSES ARE LOCATED FROM SPACE

8/7/02

Industry - Engineering Newspaper (Moscow)

Scientists at the Moscow-based Earth Geoinformation Analysis Research Center have developed a unique technology for detecting mineral resource reserves based on remote terrestrial surface sensing from space.

The essence of this new technique, which has already made it possible to find water in the Sahara desert, consists of the fact that specialists receive highly accurate multidimensional photographs of the Earth from space, then process them using computer programs they have developed, and - without performing geological work in an area that is being studied - provide a precise prediction of the resources occurring under the earth.

The structurometric analysis technique is based on the fact that all underground resources manifest themselves on the surface in one way or another: the Earth's core emits energy that, in proceeding to the surface, is refracted as a function of the rocks through which it passes. This creates a unique trace on the surface, the nature of which is dependent upon what is located under the earth. Russian specialists have learned to "read" this trace. Or, in other words, to identify regularities and to present the traces detected in the form of accurate three-dimensional images of the resources occurring under the earth.

Producing firms have been trying for some time to use space land surveys to generate predictions of raw materials occurring under the earth. However, all the technologies employed to date have produced a low level of accuracy.

The uniqueness of the technology created by the coworkers of the Earth Geoinformation Analysis Research Center consists of the fact that it is made up of dozens of unrelated computer algorithms. In studying space survey data, these algorithms apparently crosscheck one another, ultimately producing an extremely precise prediction.

The structurometric analysis technique, on which a group of Russian scientists headed by academician Vladimir Zhukov worked for more than 20 years, makes it possible to identify and quite accurately describe mineral resource deposits within areas where it was previously thought they did not exist. Here, the cost of the prediction work is an order lower than that of the traditional geological exploration techniques currently in use.

This Russian technology also takes on greater urgency in light of the global problem of hydrocarbon raw material reserves on the planet. The center's director, Valeriy Tutykhin believes that, "Our technology makes it possible to quite accurately estimate oil-and-gas reserves over extremely large areas in any country". He says, "The structurometric analysis technique is already being used by specialists when performing prediction work for a number or Russian companies, as well as oil-, diamond-, and gold-producing firms abroad".

In particular, at the request of the Mauritanian government, specialists from the center where this technology was developed, in March of this year, performed remote terrestrial surface sensing from space within this North African republic in order to look for underground fresh water. They provided a prediction of its presence in the Varan region not far from the city of Atar.

In July, while drilling at the site pinpointed by the center specialists, flowing water was found at a depth of approximately 30 meters. "The result fully satisfied the client. However, we suggested to our Mauritanian colleagues that they continue their drilling work, since our predictions indicated a considerably large water flow under a hard volcanic rock "cap" at a depth on the order of 250 meters," V. Tutykhin said.

The Russian specialists were successful in convincing the project managers not to halt the work and to continue drilling to the 250-meter mark, despite the fact that penetrating the hard rock broke three diamond drill bits.

The practical drilling results stunned the Mauritanians. An underground flow of colossal proportions was discovered beneath a volcanic rock stratum. The initial well flow rate was 32,000 liters an hour. The water reserves found are not only capable of meeting the needs of Atar's population, but are also of vital strategic importance to the country as a whole, the bulk of which is covered by the sandy and rocky deserts of the Western Sahara. As one of the project participants noted, "this fountain in the Sahara is a present-day wonder of the world".

In the opinion of the Russian scientists, the discovery of this water under hard volcanic rock can tentatively be explained by the fact that magmatic lava collapsed the bed of a large river in prehistoric times, the course of which subsequently went underground.

Using this same new technology, gold ore reserves were detected in South Korea in April.

UNDERGROUND STOREHOUSES ARE LOCATED FROM SPACE. Industry - Engineering Newspaper (Moscow), 7/8/02, 024, p. 2.
http://www.research-centre.org/news4.php

[This message has been edited by tradingpennys (edited October 23, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Here is a company meeting from 2000 that included a discussion on Naked Shorting. It showed a 90% buy to sell ratio.

Does this fit CMKX?


quote:

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SAN FRANCISCO, June 8, 2000 BACK TO NEWSLETTERS LIST

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SHAREHOLDER UPDATE / AGM 2000
The following is a report on the activities at the Annual Meeting of Shareholders held May 31, 2000 in Sausalito, California.

Opening Comments

Medizone's Chief Operating Officer, Dr. Jill Marshall, opened the presentation with a discussion on shareholder relation topics and commonly asked questions. Jill stated that when shareholders want to make changes, i.e. address changes and stock transferring, they need to notify American Stock Transfer and Trust in writing. The address is: 40 Wall Street. New York, NY 10005, phone number: 212-936-5100. For legend removal, shareholders need to call Jill directly for instructions. Jill also talked about Medizone's web site and how anyone interested could view any of the SEC filings, Management Profiles, Updates, Press Release Archives and outstanding science articles by Dr. Sunnen, by clicking on the applicable buttons located on the homepage.

Official Business of the Meeting

The official meeting was then opened by Chairman and CEO, Edwin Marshall. The official business consisted of electing 3 directors; Edwin Marshall, Dr. Gerard Sunnen and Richard Solomon and approval of H&J Associates (formerly Jones, Jensen & Company) as the auditors for the next year. The final results of the proxy vote are now reported as follows: FOR ALL DIRECTORS AND APPOINTMENT OF JONES JENSEN, 92,520,651. AGAINST, 150,150. ABSTAIN 850,692. The official business of the meeting was then closed.

Discussion Period

Following the close of the Annual Meeting, the shareholders and others in attendance were invited to remain for discussion of current developments at the Company. The first item of discussion was the May 23 press release , which can be viewed in the Press Release Archives section of this web site. That press release on a Funding Program, Scientific Progress and Future Intentions was released to 50 countries via PR Newswire in San Francisco. The Company anticipated a favorable market reaction following this release. The initial market response indicated this would be the case as the price increased 70% over the previous day's close on heavy volume during the first few hours of trading the morning of the release. Then, as has happened in the past with our stock, the Market Makers appeared to "cap" the stock. In other words, the price of the stock appeared to be held at a limited level that does not allow the stock to move to a natural level based on the free market rule of supply and demand. In the days following the shareholders meeting, the stock was brought down again, in the opinion of the Company, artificially.

A discussion then ensued as to the perceived lack of enforcement of existing rules by the SEC and NASD Regulation in regards to Market Makers on the OTC:BB and the requirement for them to make a "fair market". Unlike the National NASDAQ markets or the New York Stock Exchange, market makers on the OTC:BB are not required to report a short position in securities traded over the counter. The Company believes this creates an environment that invites the violation of fair market standards that market makers are legally required to provide.

The Company has come to the conclusion, based on comparing the daily report it receives from American Stock Transfer and Trust Co., Medizone's transfer agent, and viewing the Share Volume Report, as well as other information that is available, that the buy/sell ratio in Medizone stock is consistently tilted in the buy direction. In other words, over time there has not been a balanced buy/sell ratio in Medizone stock. Predominantly, Medizone shareholders tend to be long term, patient shareholders interested in the advancement of the science as much as turning a profit. Thus, based on the information available to it, the Company has come to the conclusion that there is a long term accumulated short position in the market maker community. This creates a pressure that is not only detrimental to the short term appreciation of stock value, but encouraging of illegal activities such as collusion and manipulation for those, who on the one hand have a legal obligation to provide a fair market for the Company's stock, and on the other hand are so short the stock that it would be financially detrimental to allow the stock to rise to a fair market value based on the law of supply and demand. This last assumption is based on the belief that some of these short sellers who may nominally hold themselves out as market makers of our stock, could only cover their naked short positions by spending significant sums of money buying stock on the open market in order to cover their short interests. The financial incentive for those short sellers is to protect their position. In other words, do every thing possible to keep a lid on the price.

The Company believes the best way to address this issue is to view it as a short term problem that will be overcome by further development of our science, including; the filing of additional new patents, the publishing of successful double blind studies in major countries by internationally renowned virologists, hepatologists and infectious disease experts. Continuing and additional funding and the construction of a production facility intended to be on line by the end of the 3rd quarter of 2001 with the start of revenue production currently estimated for the 4th quarter of 2001. These activities, along with a staff increase of very highly qualified individuals, some of international renown joining the Medizone team, will present a force that will be impossible to hold down, regardless of possible collusion, market manipulation and foul intent for reasons of self preservation and financial greed by a few who operate in a secretive environment that the Company views as being in need of rule changes as well as sticker enforcement of existing regulations.

In this regard, the Company's law firm, Durham, Jones & Pinegar has prepared a letter to be presented to the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, with copies to NASD Regulation and certain elected representatives in Washington who chair oversight committees of those agencies. That letter as well as a letter from the Company on the same subject was filed on June 8, 2000. Both letters may be viewed on the Company's web site under Shareholder Communication. Please do not think we are so naive to think we might actually bring about regulatory change. We view that as a long shot at best. However, we are genuinely concerned for the liquidity of some of our shareholders should certain market makers be forced into a situation in which they find it difficult to cover their short positions. In other words, if it became difficult to provide stock to shareholders with street accounts. As a Company, we are simply going to put the appropriate authorities on notice of what our concerns are, the SEC is reviewing this issue and we hope to have our voice heard. It is up to those authorities to take action to correct the situation, or to ignore it. To protect your position as a shareholder we strongly urge all of you to write to your broker and insist that the broker holding your stock do two things. First, register the share certificate in your name. Second, the broker should agree in writing not to use the certificate as collateral for short selling. To authorize your broker to act as your agent you must give him a power of attorney for buy and sell orders. If you do these things the broker/client relationship will not be broken, but you will prevent your stock from being used against your best interests.

Please note that this Company is not the only Bulletin Board listed company that believes it has this problem. Since posting the letter of May 26 relative to this issue on our web site, I have been contacted by the executives of a number of companies who have had similar problems. It is pretty obvious when you are on the "inside" what is going on when you release very positive news, the shareholder¹s response to the news is positive and then the market goes down. There is no explanation except intentional manipulation. When a Company¹s buy/sell ratio on a given day is weighted 90% toward the buy side, at least in the retail market, how would you otherwise explain a decline in price on that same day?

Let me close this subject by saying the Company's intention is to enter into the public record its view of this on-going problem in the market place and offer some possible solutions. We believe it is imperative for the shareholders of all publicly traded companies to be equally protected under the law. That is clearly not the case today. Beyond that, it is not our job to change the market place. It is our job to build this company, prove its science and bring about a revolutionarily change in the world of medicine relative to viral illness and other issues the company believes it has answers for in a world of great need. That is our job, and that is what we intend to focus on.

The presentation then moved into the field of research. The work of recently retired board member Dr. William Hitt was discussed. As reported in the May 23rd press release, Dr. Hitt is being very successful with his work in hepatitis C. He has additionally worked with a few HIV and herpes patients with encouraging results, but the number of patients treated is very low and the Company has chosen not to report these results for lack of depth of information. The hepatitis C results of 5 log viral load reductions and other significant signs of patient well being reported in the press release of May 23rd are based on 6 month post treatment follow up results as well as immediate patient improvement. In all, Dr. Hitt has treated over 30 patients with hepatitis C as of this date. The information the Company has obtained from this work, while done without a blind control in "anecdotal circumstances", is nonetheless less very useful. We know our process works! The next step, as previously reported on May 23rd, will be to prove this in independent studies done in other countries.

Dr. Sunnen discussed the viral program at length and also the future intentions of the Company to pursue an agenda for the external applications of ozone to treat pathogenic conditions such as burns, slowly healing wounds, ulcerations, etc. To understand the viral inactivation program better, shareholders are encouraged to refer to the "Virology Primer with special reference to ozone" in the science section of this web site. The external program will not be started until the viral inactivation program is very well established, nearing the end of the research stage and production is ready to start. This current Company position is based on limited human resources and subject to change.

The Company then did a presentation on its patent development program. Morgan & Finnegan, our New York patent firm, along with a high volume of quality work by Dr. Sunnen, has resulted in a serious strengthening of the Company¹s patent situation internationally. Along with the granting of a patent for the Company¹s previous application on externals, a new application was filed on May 24th titled, METHOD AND APPLICATION FOR OZONE DECONTAMINATION OF BIOLOGICAL LIQUID, Our ref. No.; 1299-4015.

Assuming this patent is granted, as anticipated, the Company will then have 4 existing patents, all of which interlock and relate to each other. The near term filing of an additional patent application relative to the Company¹s blood / serum interface is anticipated Though narrow in scope, that patent application will deal with the cartridge that is the Company¹s "disposable", a major revenue producing tool. That filing will give the Company 5 patents (counting the two in the application stage).

The scope of the Company's international patent coverage was then emphasized by providing a global list of regions covered.



 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
As per article above ...
"The initial market response indicated this would be the case as the price increased 70% over the previous day's close on heavy volume during the first few hours of trading the morning of the release. Then, as has happened in the past with our stock, the Market Makers appeared to "cap" the stock. In other words, the price of the stock appeared to be held at a limited level that does not allow the stock to move to a natural level based on the free market rule of supply and demand."

The supply of CMKX is more than abundant. So the supply is there. They need more demand. Which is hard to generate with so many #!(#(*@ shares! There are more shares than there are stars!!!
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Pennies for Dollars
However, there is a big difference when dollar volumes of the various exchanges are compared. In 2003, volume for the OTCBB was an average of 1,060,949,618 shares per day, and average daily dollar volume was $159,551,840. That's an average price of $0.15 per share. The average 2003 share price on the Pink Sheets was $0.14. By contrast, in the same year, the average daily share price on the Nasdaq was $16.61 and the average daily share price on the NYSE was $27.50.

Consider this: in 2003 and 2004, shares in CMKM traded between 0.002 and 0.0001 cents. At 0.0001 cents per share, a million shares cost you $100. If you were lucky enough to catch a ride when the stock moved to 0.005 cents, which it did on occasion, and if there were enough buyers to get you out of your position, you would make a cool $4,900 profit.

However, if you were on the wrong side of the trade and bought at 0.005 cents, you would see your $100 dwindle to just $2 when the stock dropped back down to 0.0001 cents. And if you had a $20,000 position at 0.0001 cents you would have to sell 200 million shares to get out. In the sub-penny abyss, a few thousand dollars of buying or selling can significantly sway share values.

A company like CMKM is simply not the place to entrust any money you can't afford to lose. It hasn't filed any reports with the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) since March 2003, and obtaining reliable corporate information is a challenge at best.
-----------------------------------
That's where I'm at the 0.0005 price. Selling at 0.0002 I am losing 300.00 + a share! (+ is broker comissions). This stock isn't naked shorted. Nor is it shorted period. MM's have to keep a list of shares they short. Where is CMKX listed ANYWHERE?
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if a company is naked shorted it would take time but it could be found out. the dtc has a record of every trade both buys & sells by taking this number & matching it to what cmkx has recieved in payment for buys & the issued amount they would know just how many it was shorted. if mm's just sold shares without reporting each sell they make to the dtc they would never show up in our accounts. roger could get all the info needed to prove either way & being a lawyer the lawsuit would follow close behind. if they wanted to force a cover the lawsuit would be the first move followed by the dividends. no back street moves, just file the suit and force the cover with the dividends. as nothing happened it isnt shorted.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
You're right Bill, the stock isn't naked shorted, it's not double naked shorted (whatever that means), it doesn't have an "intrinsic" value of 3 trillion dollars, and there is no Master Plan. The sad reality is that it's a tiny pink sheet semi-scam company that's in deep trouble and they now have a high powered attorney to insure that the perpetrators walk away free and clear while the honest people (us) lose everything we invested.
 
Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
Aside from all the theories on the stock, take a closer look at the racing. This company that has no revenue has already announced the sponsorship of a second funny car($$$). They are supposed to "up" the program on the existing funny car($$$) and the motorcycle as well. Is investor money lining pockets and buying powerful advertising tools to lure new investors into the circle? Every race has had a "tent" offgrounds for shareholders and potential shareholders to hang out and become "part of the excitement!!" It will be interesting to see just what happens in Vegas.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by ahcncinc:
quote:
Is investor money lining pockets and buying powerful advertising tools to lure new investors into the circle?

Gee, I don't know, what do you think?
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if roger is going to save UC's azz it just might be that they transfer all mining into CIM and make cmkx racing only & then if & when they find diamonds sell them to cmkx to be marketed. maybe thats why the increase in a/s just before the dividends, give cmkx some money to work with. the problem is that the only thing they have with any proven value is the new gold mine and even there we have no idea how it was paid for or how much which in itself is very wrong, any company that buys any kind of company also tells shareholders what it paid for it. time will tell and as i have no money i have lots of time...lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
tradingpennys,

You wrote: Where is CMKX listed ANYWHERE?
Don't you know that they are going to list on the OTC-BB, the NASDAQ, the AMEX and the NYSE? Thought I heard all of that somewhere!
LOL

$300/share loss really stinks!!!

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hey Up,

As I seem to recall you work with IP. Remember I could not download pdf files? New neighbor just moved in who's email address includes MCP. He found the problem.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
Hey Up,
As I seem to recall you work with IP. Remember I could not download pdf files? New neighbor just moved in who's email address includes MCP. He found the problem.

Got me a little confused here Wallace. I remember you having difficulty downloading pdf files but I don't know what you mean about IP and MCP. Help me out a little here.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Someone previously asked me how a certain company got listed on the AMEX...I do not remember the name of the subject company.
Requirements are as follows:

American Stock Exchange

Regular Financial Guidelines : The American Stock Exchange requires pre-tax income of $750,000 for most recent fiscal year or two out of the most three recent fiscal years, a market value of public float of $3 million, an initial minimum bid price of $3 and stockholder's equity of $4 million.

Alternate Financial Guidelines : A company has a market value of public float of $15 million, an initial minimum bid price of $3 and stockholder's equity of $4 million. The company must have a three-year operating history.

W's Note: Remember that "stockholder's equity of $4 million" must be a positive figure.

None of the companies involved with CMKX appear to meet any of the above standards.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Wallace #1:
Got me a little confused here Wallace. I remember you having difficulty downloading pdf files but I don't know what you mean about IP and MCP. Help me out a little here.


IP = Information Processing
MCP = Microsoft Professional

Maybe I am the one confused. Thought your background was IP.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Nope, not me Wallace. I'm as low tech as they come. Part owner of a steel distribution business. We sell raw material to machine shops, tool & die companies, etc. Pretty much on the bottom of the technology food chain.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hope you are beyond the foundry point. Saw a guy get cooked when he dumped red hot steel from the bucket of an overhead crane into a mold below...had water in it. Shot right back up at him...THE END.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Yeah, well beyond that. The "catch phrase" for our business is steel service center. We inventory the steel in all of its various grades and shapes and sell them in either standard lengths or cut them to customer specifications. Not a glamorous business but a satisfying one.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
How are tool and die companies doing? That should be a good indicator as to where the economy is going. Yes?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Tool & die companies here (Racine, WI) are on an almighty roll right now but it has more to do with the economy of Racine as opposed to the nation. Racine was hit real hard over the last few years, losing quite a few major manufacturers and a ton of the small tool & die businesses that supported them. Now with a bit of a manufacturing resurgance, the ones that did survive have more work than they can handle. It's the same old cycle that happens here every 5 years or so. New ones will crop up, thrive for a while, then the next recession will take out the weak ones and the strong survive. I can tell you this though, my business is on the smaller side but we do mirror the national economy pretty closely. We are having the best year we've had in a long, long time. Steel was not the business you wanted to be in over the last few years. This year however, there has been a dramatic turnaround. As much as I hate to say this, it's almost like it was in the Clinton years.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
That sure sounds encouraging. Tells me we have to wait for the election to be decided and then the market goes up...probably, no matter who wins.

Wonder what CMKX will do. Frankly, I don't see much of a future for that company - but it sure is fascinating!
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Wonder what CMKX will do.

You're not serious are you? I could make a pretty good guess!
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Yea,I wonder too.from this PR I think I'll hang around a while...CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Joint Venture on Uranium Claims
Friday October 8, 9:30 am ET

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 8, 2004--CMKM Diamonds, Inc., (Pink Sheets:CMKX - News) is pleased to announce it has reached an agreement with United Carina Resources Corp.
-
Uranium prices are booming, surging 80 per cent to more than $US18 a pound in the past 12 months in response to fears by nuclear power utilities about long-term supplies.

-
Yellowcake prices were $7.10 US a pound in December 2000 but have risen steadily and recently surpassed $20 for the first time since 1984
-
It got me wondering if Melvin really knew something when he said what CMKX was tring to do,he compared it to way back then,"kind of like making a bomb".
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
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[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by highwaychild:
quote:
I've been doing a little urainium research but still can't quite figure out this doggone calculator http://www.antenna.nl/wise/uranium/nfcc.html .LOL

Wow. I looked at the first formula after the first fill in box and knew it was way beyond me. Get past + or - and things start to get a little foggy with me!

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
WAY over my head.LOL
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
tradingpennys,

You wrote: Where is CMKX listed ANYWHERE?
Don't you know that they are going to list on the OTC-BB, the NASDAQ, the AMEX and the NYSE? Thought I heard all of that somewhere!
LOL

$300/share loss really stinks!!!


LOL Brat! I meant that the MM's have to list what stocks they short.

 


Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Moo thinks you doubters are full of cow pie. moo remembers how quickly he was bashed by so many waaaaaaay back when he brought up CMKX to allstocks message board. the tides have turned you BIT###S! MOOOO MOOO MOOO MOOO
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
CashCowMoo
Member posted October 24, 2004 06:40
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Moo thinks you doubters are full of cow pie. moo remembers how quickly he was bashed by so many waaaaaaay back when he brought up CMKX to allstocks message board. the tides have turned you BIT###S! MOOOO MOOO MOOO MOOO
======================================

some of us just dont see the stock play of a lifetime or cmkx making us rich. some see a nice profit at some point. some of us see a company that had great potential but mismanagement killed most of that. some of us see a company more interested in race cars then mining diamonds. some of us see a company building a nice group of jv mining companies but know that a 779 billion o/s will kill most of the pps possibilities. some of us wish we had found allstocks & cmkx a month earlier so that the last pps run left us sitting on free shares with zero risk on the dang stock...lol
 


Posted by Forrestgump on :
 
http://cmkx.yazzi.com/cbc_national_102204.htm
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
thanks for the link Forrest.

CBC the national is a good reliable source for new stories. im downloading the clip now and will watch it

good find!

quote:
Originally posted by Forrestgump:
http://cmkx.yazzi.com/cbc_national_102204.htm


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I got tired of hype so I crunched some numbers for CMKX as a revenue generating company from our gold mine. Here is the work posted from another board.

quote:

Look at these CMKX numbers

I was tired of the hype so I crunched some numbers together based on our gold mine output. Keep in mind I have no idea what it will produce from 80 tons of ore/day. I have read some scenarios.

Here are my numbers

[quote]

We could have 1000 shares instead of billions and still be at .0002 with no revenue. I don't see a need to be reporting until revenue exists.


Now with revenue coming then reporting could make a difference.


I dont really buy into all the numbers because revenue doesn't equal profit. If after all is said and done, we end up with 30 million profit, it will be a success. Plus you must remember it is divided by more than one company.

30 million profit should carry our exploration costs. I see the gold mine as a spring board to other things.

If they announce the OS at say 100 billion then 30 million in profits would move us to a legit .0003. That is with no pe multiple.

Look at a scenario that could be true

800 billion OS with 80 million profit = real value of .0001. That is EPS. With a multiple of 20 on the PE then a legit .002.


Since our admin costs are no where near that then most of the 80 million could be used for acquisitions, development, exploration, etc.


80 million could,

1. Get a zinc mine going. = more revenue.

2. Get the processing plant in Rachel going = more revenue.

3. Get uranium project going = more revenue.

4. Get diamond operation in South America stable = more revenue

5. Get a diamond mine in Canada up if we have diamonds.


Basically, the Gold revenue if it produces 80 million profit for our company should take us to .002 with max OS.

Let's say it is 40 million, then .001 , 10 million = .00025


I believe we are now ready for a rise. Thing is, revenue may not be reported for a quarter so it could be 3 months down the road.

I think we are home free if no unforseen circumstances. With real numbers and no hype.


_________________
God has a plan. He just hasn't issued a PR lately.



 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
nice news stroy. too bad that it wasnt Urban and CMKX instead of shoregold.

it could have been if he woudl have spent the money and did the same thing they have done.

there could have been a pile more money for him in the diamond mine as opposed to the stock scam that he choose to pursue.

looke like there is some real potential out there in Fort a la Corne

oh well.

sometimes you win sometimes you loose.

quote:
Originally posted by Forrestgump:
http://cmkx.yazzi.com/cbc_national_102204.htm


 


Posted by Just Looking on :
 
Speaking of mining stocks, have you seen this?! LOL http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum2/HTML/005184.html
 
Posted by valves on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Nope, not me Wallace. I'm as low tech as they come. Part owner of a steel distribution business. We sell raw material to machine shops, tool & die companies, etc. Pretty much on the bottom of the technology food chain.


Upside, we should talk steel! We just left Carpentar Steel and are looking for another vendor.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hey valves and Up,

Do I get a commission? LOL
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Sure valves, we can talk about it. Many years ago we were an authorized Carpenter distributor until they pulled the plug on their whole distribution network. They are more into the specialty metals but depending on what you use, maybe we can do something. Wallace, we have independent reps. where we pay a 5% to 7% commission, depending on the margin. Good enough?
 
Posted by will on :
 
UPMan, if I had Wallace's money, I'd burn mine. Give him 0% commission.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
0? Nada? Nothing? None?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Zip, Zilch, Zero!

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
0? Nada? Nothing? None?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Got a better idea. I'll pay him in CMKX shares. That's pretty much the equivalent of nothing, right
 
Posted by will on :
 
He wouldn't have them. He give 'em to that bull that wrapped its ass in the CMKX shirt, and urinated on the poker chip.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Got a better idea. I'll pay him in CMKX shares. That's pretty much the equivalent of nothing, right


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Thanks for reminding me, I've got a load of chips from the races, maybe he'd accept those. Or some of Joes shirts.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
you guys are too funny!
 
Posted by will on :
 
No we're not, we're bored to death, and need to get a proper life.

quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
you guys are too funny!


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
I have a life and I call it CMKX.
 
Posted by will on :
 
euthanasia:
painless killing to relieve suffering: the act or practice of killing somebody who has an incurable illness or injury, or allowing or assisting that person to die.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
I have a life and I call it CMKX.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Thanks buddy, I appreciate that. Really makes me want to give myself the thumbs up. Oh well, cashing it in for the night now. A long day of watching the Bears lose and the Packers win. Looking forward to another bright, shiny CMKX day tomorrow! Goodnight all.
 
Posted by valves on :
 
Upside, go to our website and send an email to one of our customer service reps. Have them forward your email to Ken. That is if you don't want to put it here on the BBS.

Ken
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
isnt the party this weekend??? the gold mine deal was good news but i'm wondering if cmkx will attempt to put out something in an effort to increase the pps. unfortunately with the o/s as it is anything short of large diamonds and a radiation alert from all the uranium found won't move it much (i know uranium isn't radioactive, its a joke, so no complaints please...lol)
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Damn bunch of jokers!! If you're giving it away, I'll take CMKX.

By the way Upside, did you hear about about that major steel consolidation deal? Looks like others might be doing the same thing.

Good luck with valves, you cheapskate. LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 25, 2004).]
 


Posted by valves on :
 
lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
All you diamond lovers on this thread might want to check out MDEX. Have done no DD on it, so do your own.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
WOW! over a bil vol already!
 
Posted by will on :
 
1/780 of O/S.
It should be flying. LOL!

quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
WOW! over a bil vol already!


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well it did hit .0003...must mean instead of bouncing between .00015 & .00025 its between .0002 & .0003 which is improvement
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, the squeeze of the century, no doubt.

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
well it did hit .0003...must mean instead of bouncing between .00015 & .00025 its between .0002 & .0003 which is improvement


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
1/780 of O/S.
It should be flying. LOL!


It was just a comment will.


 


Posted by safeguard on :
 
Does anybody know if the new stuff on the web site ever get finished (CMKX website)?

Can somebody post a link if it did? Thx
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/041025/255921_1.html

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Initiation of Sarbanes-Oxley Compliance Preparations
Monday October 25, 12:52 pm ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 25, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD - News) announced today that it has initiated preparations for compliance with the upcoming additional requirements under the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002. The initial step in this process for the company will be the formation of a corporate advisory board which shall report directly to the board of directors.
The company is currently performing due diligence on several potential candidates for the board. The company expects to have an announcement in regards to the selection of the initial members to the corporate advisory board within the next several days.

Further details relative to this matter can be found at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

---------------------------------------------Contact:
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.
Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Safeguard,
Their site is here:
http://www.casavantmining.com

It appears it's mostly done although some of the links still return a "coming soon" page.
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Considering that I built my website in less than a day, the company they hired must suck pretty bad....LOL
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Considering that I built my website in less than a day, the company they hired must suck pretty bad....LOL

Or they lack content.... lol
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Valves,
Any particular rep you want me to send it to? Or, just give me an address and I'll mail you out a stock book.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by ed19363:
quote:
Considering that I built my website in less than a day, the company they hired must suck pretty bad....LOL

Melvin O'Neil Web Design, Inc.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Considering that I built my website in less than a day, the company they hired must suck pretty bad....LOL

Sounds like par for the course to me! LOL


 


Posted by valves on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Valves,
Any particular rep you want me to send it to? Or, just give me an address and I'll mail you out a stock book.

Upside, if you would, go to the website listed on my profile and send any info to the nc address- attn: Ken

I don't want to put that info on here. It wouldn't be appropriate.

I'll be out of town next week so I'll give you a call the following week.

Thanks!

Ken

You may have to type the website in. I tried the link and it didn't work from there.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Gotcha valves, I'll email you something today.
 
Posted by valves on :
 
Sounds Good!
 
Posted by CouchP on :
 
So the shares that show up on myEtrade account turned out to be CMKX dividend shares, what are they worth, and which one is which? I have one symbol at 2 and the other at 7291.

Thanks
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Valves, you have mail.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CouchP:
So the shares that show up on myEtrade account turned out to be CMKX dividend shares, what are they worth, and which one is which? I have one symbol at 2 and the other at 7291.

Thanks



For ETRADE:

903328995 is UCAD
125809996 is CIM


all shares are restricted. CIM is not a ticker symbol, it's short for "CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING" which is not publically traded and thus worthless for all practicle purposes.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan

[This message has been edited by GatorMan (edited October 25, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well according to my ameritrade streamer another 8.3 billion served today. its a good thing this stuff is done electronicly or a lot of tree's would die everyday. somebody somewhere besides the DTC & mm's has to be making some kind of money on this. the trick is finding out who & where & how. cmkx gets paid for each share only once and they can't be adding more to the market since they've dumped all they can already unless they increased the a/s again or are naked shorting themselves.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Didn't UC just give some money to Crystalix??? i know he gave money to a company with this type of name but i can't find the pr. anyway news from the same company i think. believe it or not it sounds like a real company if its the same one. based in nevada
http://www.otcbbtrader.com/portal/goto.dll;jsessionid=365F0F9307FC8B2DD72ABE0A8A58C0D5?cat=400&id=A%257D%255BE%2503%250E%2500%2501130083%2500417D5B45130083%2500%251C%2500
 
Posted by valves on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Valves, you have mail.

Upside, just checked my emails. I got it. I'll give you a ring tomorrow.

Thanks!


 


Posted by GHOST on :
 
bill1352

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Form 8-K for CRYSTALIX GROUP INTERNATIONAL INC

29-Sep-2004

Entry Material Agreement, Financial Statements and Exhibits


ITEM 1.01 ENTRY INTO A MATERIAL DEFINITIVE AGREEMENT

On September 23, 2004, Crystalix Group International, Inc. ("Crystalix") executed and delivered to CMKXTREME.COM a convertible promissory note in the principal amount of $2,000,000 and a seven-year warrant to purchase 2,500,000 shares of common stock at $0.08 per share. The note is unsecured, accrues interest at 10% per annum, is due October 1, 2007, and requires monthly principal payments of $83,333 and accrued interest beginning November 1, 2004. The note is convertible as to any payment when due, as to all or any portion of the note upon the sale of 51% or more of Crystalix's outstanding common stock or sale of all of Crystalix's assets, or as to a portion of the note not to exceed $1,000,000 upon an event of default. The conversion price is the lesser of the average closing price of the common stock for the five business days immediately preceding the notice of conversion or $0.08. There is no relationship between Crystalix and CMKXTREME.COM, other than in respect of the transaction described above.

Crystalix will use the proceeds from the financing for working capital.

Crystalix has agreed to file a registration statement with the Securities and Exchange Commission in order to register the resale of the shares issuable upon conversion of the note and the shares issuable upon exercise of the warrant.

This summary description of the financing described by the documents does not purport to be complete and is qualified in its entirety by reference to the documents that are filed as Exhibits hereto.

ITEM 9.01 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND EXHIBITS

Exhibits:

REGULATION
S-B NUMBER DOCUMENT

10.1 Convertible Promissory Note to CMKXTREME.COM dated September 23,
2004

10.2 Warrant to Purchase Common Stock issued to CMKXTREME.COM

10.3 Registration Rights Agreement with CMKXTREME.COM


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I just want to start some craziness
ok I looked at my casavant intl. mining dividend. it used to say tender offer. now the name has been changed to casavant intl. mining equity. all of my dividends from other companies have nasdaq sc on them which is normal for most dividends but for some reason this thing with the equity name attached to it says amex. I am confused
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
when do restricted dividends have amex name associated I thought they always say nasdaq sc.
 
Posted by zippycal on :
 
They may be preparing for a cusip number change, to get rid of the short situation. Maybe AMEX is the target exchange once reporting.

chris
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
neither cmkx or CIM would come close to qualifing for AMEX they need a $3 pps & a 3 yr history of making money & neither come close.
 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
Aren't shareholders of UCAD supposed to get a F/S today?

From UCAD pr Oct 15th...
The Company's earlier announced 3 for 1 forward split is expected to be effective October 25, 2004.
All shareholders of record as of that date will participate in the split.

[This message has been edited by safeguard (edited October 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by safeguard on :
 
Interesting...

Wall Street News Alert: Aggressive Traders Alert! October 26, 2004, Part 3
10/26/2004 7:29:56 AM

Weston, FLA., Oct 26, 2004 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Wall Street News Alert`s "stocks to watch" this morning are:
ART International Corp. ( ARIOF ),
Broadcom Corporation ( BRCM ),
Dell Inc. ( DELL ),
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. ( WMT ) and
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. ( CMKX ).

[This message has been edited by safeguard (edited October 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Here's the key to anything you read from "Wall Street News Alert":

This profile is not without bias, and is a paid release. WSCF has been compensated for dissemination of company information on behalf of one or more of the companies mentioned in this release.

They are about as reputable as the Green Baron. It's another paid pumping firm.
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. 3-for-1 Forward Split and Symbol Change Effective
Tuesday October 26, 1:43 pm ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 26, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD - News) announced today that the company's 3-for-1 forward split has been declared effective as of the open of the market tomorrow, Oct. 27, 2004. The company's new trading symbol is USCA. This restructuring of the company will allow for the pursuit of additional avenues of financing and future acquisitions.
John Woodward, president of UCAD, exclaimed, "We are appreciative of everyone's efforts in making this forward split effective. The forward split of the company's securities should open exciting pathways for future growth and additional shareholder value."

Further details relative to this matter can be found at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact:
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.
Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source: U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
and they are up .60 today on volume of 43,000. wont see movement like that anymore at least not on the volume
 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
Maybe a silly question but are the UCAD FS shares restricted since the distribution shares are, the ones that came via CMKX?
 
Posted by will on :
 
It was discussed days ago. The answer is yes, they are restricted. Confirmed through the PR person at UCAD.

quote:
Originally posted by safeguard:
Maybe a silly question but are the UCAD FS shares restricted since the distribution shares are, the ones that came via CMKX?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Yep, they're restricted. I e-mailed UCAD asking them that very question when they announced the split.
 
Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Here's the key to anything you read from "Wall Street News Alert":

This profile is not without bias, and is a paid release. WSCF has been compensated for dissemination of company information on behalf of one or more of the companies mentioned in this release.

They are about as reputable as the Green Baron. It's another paid pumping firm.


Interesting Upside, do you have anything solid that would substantiate that on these particular companies? Shouldn't these companies be required to disclose this type of "advertising".

Do you think CMKX paid for that statement?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Workaholic,
The middle part of my post that you copied is pulled from the "alert" that they put out. I should have enclosed it in quotes or something. Also, the Green Baron, on their site, comes rite out and states that their parent company, Evergreen Marketing, is a holder of CMKX and they state they have been adding to their position since they began covering them. To me, that is paid pumping or pumping for your own self interest. At the very least, it's not impartial journalism.
 
Posted by glfpimp on :
 
Do our restricted shares get affected by the 3 for 1 split?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
glfpimp,
We participate in the split but our new shares are restricted just like the originals.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
125809996 AMEX CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING EQUITY

this is what it says for my CIM dividend through etrade
that really didn't answer my question bill.
Most dividends from alot of companies have either unknown or nasdaq sc
Ive never seen it with amex thats what I am asking why does it have amex I am not saying that I think it is a stock exchanged on the amex or that it qualifies I am asking for the reason they had to use the amex instead of nasdaq sc. I just dont understand. this is what I know being a newbee

otc is pink sheet stocks
otcbb is over the counter bulletin board stocks

nasdaq sc is dividends
nasdaq nm is stocks that are trading on the nasdaq stock exchange
nyse are trading on that exchange
and I thought amex only refered to stock that was contained on the AMEX exchange I know the number is a cusip but like I said before usualy I see dividends having a cusip and "nasdaq sc" and the company name. could it be that etrade just puts random things when they dont know? maybe thats why it said tender offer in front of it before and now it says equity with the amex. maybe they are just pulling random names out of their butts. I dont know thats why I am asking. obvious cmkx would not qualify again that wasnt the stock in question. if anyone actually knows please respond there has to be a logical answer not it does not qualify so there is no reason.


quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
neither cmkx or CIM would come close to qualifing for AMEX they need a $3 pps & a 3 yr history of making money & neither come close.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Gold hit a 7 year high today.
I just saw the Ecuador mine video
on cmxkpics com.
Worth a look.Looked good to me.

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Wallace or anyone please answer a question if you can. What is the reasoning in issuing restricted shares as a dividend? Correct me if I'm wrong but all of the costs involved in the issuance have already been borne by the companies correct? It will not have any affect on them if these shares eventually trade at .10 or $100.00 per share correct? If thats the case, why keep them restricted?
 
Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Workaholic,
The middle part of my post that you copied is pulled from the "alert" that they put out. I should have enclosed it in quotes or something. Also, the Green Baron, on their site, comes rite out and states that their parent company, Evergreen Marketing, is a holder of CMKX and they state they have been adding to their position since they began covering them. To me, that is paid pumping or pumping for your own self interest. At the very least, it's not impartial journalism.

Thanks Up, I did know that but for some reason I thought that this particular news "wire" company was someone else. There's way too many hidden agendas in all of this. Hard to keep track. Thanks for the reality check.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Wallace or anyone please answer a question if you can. What is the reasoning in issuing restricted shares as a dividend? Correct me if I'm wrong but all of the costs involved in the issuance have already been borne by the companies correct? It will not have any affect on them if these shares eventually trade at .10 or $100.00 per share correct? If thats the case, why keep them restricted?

UP,

I am unsure as to the correct answer to your question. Maybe it has something to do with voting control, but I don't know if those restricted shares would have voting privileges. Second, as I recall, UCAD has a preferred stock that controls or could control anyway, so it should not make any difference.

As to how restricted shares are accounted for on the balance sheet and income statement, I do not know. Never had occasion to run across that problem.

Interesting subject....the rights, privileges, positives and negatives of restricted shares. Will have to look into it.

Sorry, I am not of much help. Is that why I don't get a commission? LOL

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
my guess is that it would equate to dilution. by keeping them restricted the shares are not counted in the outstanding share count. these shares would have come out of the a/s that have not been issued. so if they where unrestricted that would increase the o/s which equates in dilution and lower pps

JMHO

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
UP,

I am unsure as to the correct answer to your question. Maybe it has something to do with voting control, but I don't know if those restricted shares would have voting privileges. Second, as I recall, UCAD has a preferred stock that controls or could control anyway, so it should not make any difference.

As to how restricted shares are accounted for on the balance sheet and income statement, I do not know. Never had occasion to run across that problem.

Interesting subject....the rights, privileges, positives and negatives of restricted shares. Will have to look into it.

Sorry, I am not of much help. Is that why I don't get a commission? LOL

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Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
Sorry, I am not of much help. Is that why I don't get a commission? LOL

No commission until a sale goes through. Look at it this way though, a sale of 200.00 would equate to 1 million CMKX shares gross. Your cut if paid in shares would be 7% or 70,000 shares. 15 sales that size would put you over a million shares, well on your way to being a millionaire when this stock erupts!


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
penny-trader,
Assuming that's the reason, dilution, thereby lowering the pps, does that tell you anthing about the recent run-up in UCAD's pps?
 
Posted by will on :
 
I told you, he gets nothing!

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Wallace #1:
No commission until a sale goes through. Look at it this way though, a sale of 200.00 would equate to 1 million CMKX shares gross. Your cut if paid in shares would be 7% or 70,000 shares. 15 sales that size would put you over a million shares, well on your way to being a millionaire when this stock erupts!



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
I told you, he gets nothing!

But if I pay him in CMKX shares, in effect that's what he's getting.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Up,

This is getting interesting. Just a cursory check suggests that a company might be able to dictate the value of a restricted share of stock at the end of the restriction period. If that is the case, and I am checking further, it seems that UCAD could say each restricted share is worth .0001 as opposed to what the going market is per share. For example, I ran across this:

"The maximum amount payable (determined at the end of the applicable
restriction period) in any one fiscal year to any one participant for
Restricted Stock Units is the higher of $10,000,000 or 1,000,000 shares
of Common Stock."

That was for a public utility named Southern Company.

I do not know if the UCAD restricted shares are or will be treated identically to so-called restricted shares of insiders.

Fascinating!!!!

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Upside and Will,

You're both a pair of creeps!!! LMAO Guess you both caught some kind of disease when you went to the CMKXtreme race. LOL

I'm going back to studying restricted shares.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Since there's only us "bashers" here tonight, let me bounce something off you guys. Could it be that there is a very good reason that those shares were restricted? To be more specific, restricted so that we could not dilute the pps thereby putting a damper on the run up so that certain people wouldn't benefit greatly from an artificially inflated pps and a 3 for 1 forward split? Anyone see where I'm going with this?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
You're both a pair of creeps!!! LMAO Guess you both caught some kind of disease when you went to the CMKXtreme race. LOL

If I caught anything I probably caught it from Will. Ever get a look at him?


 


Posted by will on :
 
Next time we go somewhere, UpMan, I want to take Wallace's old ass with us.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Wallace #1:
If I caught anything I probably caught it from Will. Ever get a look at him?



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Don't know where he lives but maybe there's a race taking place near him? Get him a load of CMKX shirts, poker chips, and other handouts.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
No comments huh?

 
Posted by will on :
 
He's busy studying, you put him on a mission now. We'll see him next week sometime.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
No comments huh?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Ok will, a question for you. Remember when we met Anthony AKA Topogigio at the races and I asked him to "throw us a bone"? Remember he told us about the CMKX Oliver Stone directed movie but in addition he kind of whispered "buy UCAD"?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, he mentioned it traded 900K shares or something?
soooooooooooo?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Ok will, a question for you. Remember when we met Anthony AKA Topogigio at the races and I asked him to "throw us a bone"? Remember he told us about the CMKX Oliver Stone directed movie but in addition he kind of whispered "buy UCAD"?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Who is going to benefit from that big runup? Certainly not us with our restricted shares. As penny-trader said earlier, if we could sell them we would have diluted the pps and hampered this big run up. I think topo knew that a massive run up was coming. Prior to that UCAD traded a few thousand shares a day and all of a sudden it was doing a million +? You really think it's because they bought 5% of CMKX's mineral claims? That was old news by then. More and more this is looking like a calculated run up to benefit guess who? Run it up to 15 or so then have a 3 for 1 split. We can't affect it at all because our shares are locked up. Who was doing all that buying?

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Since there's only us "bashers" here tonight, let me bounce something off you guys. Could it be that there is a very good reason that those shares were restricted? To be more specific, restricted so that we could not dilute the pps thereby putting a damper on the run up so that certain people wouldn't benefit greatly from an artificially inflated pps and a 3 for 1 forward split? Anyone see where I'm going with this?

Think I know where you might be headed above, but could you be a bit more specific?
********************************************
Here's a definition I found, but it is for Canadian Exchanges (our's may have different standards):

Restricted Shares Shares that have limited voting rights or in some cases, no voting rights. These shares participate in a company's earnings and assets in liquidation as common shares do and are sometimes referred to as restricted common shares. Restricted shares may not command the same market price as voting common shares of the same company since they do not have voting rights.

W's Note: The above suggests that said restricted shares could be traded...at least in Canada...since the definition refers to market price. Bear in mind I am not specifically referring to UCAD's restricted shares. Maybe UCAD's SEC filings refer to the rights of such shares...anyone checked that out?
*******************************************
As far as getting my butt out to one of those races, which one of you clowns found out where I lived and sent me all that crap...T-Shirt, chip and literature? You, Upsides? And if you say "No", I'm going to think you are a lying sack of dog bones!!! LOL

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Wallace, read my post above your last one for specifics. I don't know where you live and I only took one shirt (which I cherish) so it wasn't me. I do however have about 20 poker chips but those are going up for auction on E-Bay when CMKX makes history!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I think I get your drift. Where in hell is all the money coming from when no one company has any? Certainly, not from mining results. Where else? There's just too much of it passing around from one to the other. Just how big is that bed?

Speaking of bed, I have a few things to do and then hit the sack. Good night. Good luck.

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Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
Where in hell is all the money coming from when no one company has any? Certainly, not from mining results. Where else?

Individuals known to Urban and his ilk. Start buying like mad around 3.00 per share, run it up to 15.00 or so, probably averaging in the 7.00 range. Reap the 3 for 1 split, then sell over the course of ayear or so. Eventually the pps is back where it should be and our shares become unrestricted in a fully diluted, no revenue company.

I better go to bed too, I'm starting to sound like the Dr. D of the dark side.
 


Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
man you guys are always trying to find SOME WAY to make this company not real. if CMKX does not have enough things going on to prove to you its worth then i dont see any other pink sheet worth your time and you might as well trade your blue chips and make 5 dollars over six months.

you guys are reminding me of janice shell

------------------
CashCow
 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
CashCowMoo:
Total agreement with you!

________________________________________
QUOTE:
"Member posted October 27, 2004 05:13 man you guys are always trying to find SOME WAY to make this company not real. if CMKX does not have enough things going on to prove to you its worth then i dont see any other pink sheet worth your time and you might as well trade your blue chips and make 5 dollars over six months.

you guys are reminding me of janice shell"
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Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Here you go.....UCAD is now USCA.
Forward Split effective today.
I wonder what the exciting news in the next few days will be????
Here come the RUMOURS..........lol
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=107468

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
After today, two more trading days for that October Surprise.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
NOTE - ...."We expect to have some exciting announcements in the next few days."

Who knows what this means - wait and see I guess, but I bet this is part of the set-up for the joint shareholders meeting this weekend


U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. 3-for-1 Forward Split and Symbol Change Effective Today
Wednesday October 27, 5:30 am ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 27, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: USCA - News) announced today that the company's 3-for-1 forward split has been declared effective. The former symbol for the company was UCAD. This restructuring of the company will allow for the pursuit of additional avenues of financing and future acquisitions.
Rendal Williams, CEO of USCA, stated: "With the split and new symbol now effective, the company will continue pursuit of its goals as stated by the board of directors. We expect to have some exciting announcements in the next few days."

Further details relative to this matter can be found at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact:
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.
Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476


 


Posted by thinkmoney on :
 
when does the split show up for the restricted shareS? My ameritrade ucad is still the same.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Then it turns into the November surprise??
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
After today, two more trading days for that October Surprise.


 


Posted by KellieAnn on :
 
Does anyone else besides me not have their cim dividend in their accout yet?
 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
Nov 15th for 1st payment
Nov 30th for 2nd payment


Oops, soory that's the GEMM divvy payment dates

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Got my Casavant International Mining stocks on the 19th I think.

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Posted by JEAL on :
 
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Brings New Processing Online
Wednesday October 27, 12:42 pm ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 27, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: USCA - News) announced today that it has completed the acquisition of a controlling interest in a new processing plant in Buza, Ecuador. The first stage of the facility is 95% complete. The first stage of the plant will have capacity to process approximately 70 tons of gold ore per day. When completed, the second stage of the plant will have processing capacity of approximately 400 to 500 tons of gold ore per day.
Rendal Williams, CEO of USCA, stated: "I am excited that this new acquisition will bring our total processing capacity in Ecuador to over 130 tons per day." Williams continued, "Through our commitment to CMKM Diamonds and Nevada Minerals, USCA is working diligently to expand its production facilities to stay ahead of the processing requirements of the American Shaft gold ore production."

Further details relative to this matter can be found at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact:
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.
Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the oct. suprise is ,0001...anyway if i remember correctly this so called suprise started with zen, dr. d or sterling, it didn't come from cmkx. they had the idea that because of the party cmkx must have something up their sleeve to make us shareholders very happy. ucad did say their shareholders would be happy & about an $8 pps increase would make me happy. even today 3 for 1 split at $14 & its at $5.55

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Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Ameritrade has not credited the split yet, but I wouldnt get too nervous. They frequently dont credit until the end of the business day. Besides, they are restricted shares anyway, so there is no diff if you get them today, tomorrow or next week....you're stuck with them anyway....LOL
Ed
 
Posted by valves on :
 
CMKM Diamonds Inc. and Minera Nevada S.A. Announce First Ore Production and Shipment
10/27/2004 2:32:00 PM




LAS VEGAS, Oct 27, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Minera Nevada S.A. and CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) proudly announced today that the first week of gold ore has been mined at the American Mine in Ecuador and has been shipped to U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.'s (USCA) Yellow River processing facility for immediate ore extraction.

Urban Casavant, president of CMKM Diamonds Inc., exclaimed, "It's an exciting day for the CMKX shareholders. Our diversification plan is well underway and moving toward revenue and income."

Further details relative to this matter can be found at http://www.uscanadian.net/.
www.casavantmining.com

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds Inc.

CMKM Diamonds Inc.
Diamonds Hotline:
Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755
Fax: 306-752-3754


Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved


 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Now we have a producing gold mine, with gold around the $423.00 U.S. mark, we should see a move up from .0002 (you would think)
Companies over in Russia that produce little gold sell for .06 Can. on the TSX.
 
Posted by valves on :
 
Upside, good talking to you! This pr came out shortly after we got off the phone. We might want to make that phone call a little more often!

-Ken
 


Posted by safeguard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Now we have a producing gold mine, with gold around the $423.00 U.S. mark, we should see a move up from .0002 (you would think)
Companies over in Russia that produce little gold sell for .06 Can. on the TSX.


What's their O/S though?
 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
EGX...118 million
I hear yeah
Wishful thinking, I guess
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Hummmm, let's see...$423 an ounce, 12 ounces in a troy pound, 2000 pounds in a ton.
800 million shares.
423X12X2000/800,000,000=.01269
So, for every ton of gold, the pps should move .01269.....Now how long does it take to mine and process a ton of gold?
Keep dreaming, folks, we got a LONG way to go.

 
Posted by skippy on :
 
And that assumes there is no costs related to mining, processing, and selling that gold.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Oh, darn, I knew I forgot something....LOL
quote:
Originally posted by skippy:
And that assumes there is no costs related to mining, processing, and selling that gold.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
There's Gold in them thar Ecuadorian hills Urban! Now go on out and get you some! Make us all rich! LOL!
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Portovelo,Ecuadors' Oct. 19, 2004 PR anticipated 80 tons of gold ore(thanks RJR)a work week in less than 5 weeks now(via pr).
Looks like they are on schedule or better with todays news.
80 tons a week enough for ya Upman.Or at least get you started?

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Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
They are actually shooting at processing 300-500 tons in 90 days.

Of every ton you get like .3 oz of gold. Remember it is ore not gold.

.3 X 500 = 150 oz per day.

The avg price for processing = 160/ton

Remember though UCAD owns the plant so a large part of that will be theirs.

423-160=263/oz profit X 150 = 39450 X 365 =

14,399,250 per year


That is pretty much maxed out. I would expect half that.

7 mill/800 billion X30 pe = .000261 pps


I don't see this moving pps til it helps us mine zinc, uranium, or diamonds.

Or other acquisitions. It is a good start.


Add 14 million to the Junia diamonds and you might reach 20 million in income.


20/800 bill x 30 = .00075/sh


Might move it a three bagger.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Highwaychild:
quote:
Looks like they are on schedule or better with todays news.
80 tons a week enough for ya Upman.Or at least get you started?

Highway,
Call me cynical, jaded, or just plain stupid but I won't believe it until I see concrete proof of it. If it's real, I applaud them and think it's a great thing for all of us but I've seen too many broken promises to not take everthing they say with a grain of salt.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
no one said it is not showing its worth. we know they have proved thier worth and the proof showed the worth to be .0002

quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
man you guys are always trying to find SOME WAY to make this company not real. if CMKX does not have enough things going on to prove to you its worth then i dont see any other pink sheet worth your time and you might as well trade your blue chips and make 5 dollars over six months.

you guys are reminding me of janice shell



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I hear ya Upman.
Seems to be a step in the right direction, to me.I mean at least this puts the mine in mining company.
The video of the mine on cmkxpics com at least adds tangibility to it in my book.
But you're right I'm just sitting back watching this unfold as well.

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Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
yes but they are not diluted with 770 billion shares

quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Now we have a producing gold mine, with gold around the $423.00 U.S. mark, we should see a move up from .0002 (you would think)
Companies over in Russia that produce little gold sell for .06 Can. on the TSX.


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
and also that we own the mine 100% which we dont
quote:
Originally posted by skippy:
And that assumes there is no costs related to mining, processing, and selling that gold.


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
your still probably very high on the price.

you are assuming that you are going to get the going price of the gold. you have to take into consideration that the gold gets brokered and there are fees for that and you are pulling the gold from another country and i would expect that they are getting a royalty off the gold. and there are all kinds of hidden costs that we have no idea exist.

so ya you are really high on the final out come.

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
They are actually shooting at processing 300-500 tons in 90 days.

Of every ton you get like .3 oz of gold. Remember it is ore not gold.

.3 X 500 = 150 oz per day.

The avg price for processing = 160/ton

Remember though UCAD owns the plant so a large part of that will be theirs.

423-160=263/oz profit X 150 = 39450 X 365 =

14,399,250 per year


That is pretty much maxed out. I would expect half that.

7 mill/800 billion X30 pe = .000261 pps


I don't see this moving pps til it helps us mine zinc, uranium, or diamonds.

Or other acquisitions. It is a good start.


Add 14 million to the Junia diamonds and you might reach 20 million in income.


20/800 bill x 30 = .00075/sh


Might move it a three bagger.



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I agree, I said it was maxed out.


It just shows how it can be figured.

The current pps is probably about right for what they have shown so far.

At least we are a legit .0002 and should move higher with our next project.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
PS the tour guide in the video said there are 3 oz of silver for every ounce of Gold.


Since the pr says income we should expect the revenue to exceed our current exploration expenses right. It is a platform for better things.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Where are you guys getting all those numbers as to ore shipments? Maybe they shipped a few tons, OR, maybe the shipped a wheelbarrow full! You don't know and, as usual, the CMKX release does not give you all the proper information with which to draw any conclusions at all.

Was that the mine where there were only a few locals with picks and shovels according to UCAD?
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
RJR,

You wrote:

Since the pr says income we should expect the revenue to exceed our current exploration expenses right. It is a platform for better things.
******************************

I am willing to bet they would use those words (income vs revenue) interchangeably.
I wouldn't get too excited if I were you.

*****************

"Our diversification plan is well underway and moving toward revenue and income."

Guess they did use both words, so, maybe they know the difference. Still wouldn't get too excited. Income is probably a hell of a long way off...if ever!

What happened to diamond mining instead of diversification?

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
This is where I got my less than 5 weeks.


===========================================
PORTOVELO, Ecuador--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 19, 2004--In BW5446 issued Oct. 19, 2004: Please replace the release with the following corrected version due to multiple revisions.
The corrected release reads:

CMKM DIAMONDS, INC. ANNOUNCES THE SUCCESS OF ITS INTEGRATED BUSINESS PLAN GOES INTO EFFECT IN ECUADOR

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX - News) headed by its CEO Urban Casavant and his advisory team accompanied by the company's SEC attorney Roger Glenn successfully concluded the major ownership acquisition of the established American Mine here in Portovelo today. CMKM Diamonds and its operating partner Minera Nevada SA a subsidiary of Nevada Minerals, Inc. of Las Vegas, Nevada will manage a major corridor of gold production inside this region. The current yield coming through the American Mine is 40 tons of gold ore on a daily average. Alejandro Diaz, President of Minera Nevada SA exclaims,
=========================================================================
"Within the next 6 working weeks the production will raise to a steady 80 tons of gold ore per work day as we start our second shift of underground mining team.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
" Diaz continues, "All will be done to ramp the mining production to complete our obligations to Yellow River and US Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD - News) for their addition of two additional mills to Yellow River and the new production facility of the Buza coming on line over the next 90 days to build up to 300 tons of gold ore processing per day to satisfy the volume increase of the American Mine build up of production."

The advisory team had members from legal, accounting, operations and feasibility to assess all probabilities on expansion and further development of other opportunities from CMKX, UCAD, and Nevada Minerals. The team was introduced to the on ground executive team that will lead the way through the start up phase one process. US Canadian Minerals CEO Rendal Williams explains, "UCAD has considerable time and dollars invested here in South America, especially Ecuador. We believe there is a major shift of technologies that this region has been starving for and we as UCAD plan to lead the way and share this knowledge with those who wish to expand their current ore production."

The American Mine sits inside the Zaruma-Portovelo Mining District. This district has a recorded historic production of more than 4.5 million ounces of gold and 19 million ounces of silver, as well as significant tonnages of copper, zinc and lead concentrates.

The American Mine located in Portovelo, Ecuador consists of a 100 ton hoist system that will from up to the depth of one of its 13 levels, deliver gold ore to the surface to a 35 ton drop shoot that will be supported by a jaw crusher and a cone crusher to minimize processing time for expedited production flow at the Yellow River Processing Plant. Urban Casavant CEO of CMKX said, "Through the combined efforts of all the parties in this venture we have gathered a new frontier for the well being of our shareholders and company alike. The company will be moving rapidly into a revenue model here in the fourth quarter."

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Highwaychild,

Don't you find the following a bit contradictory:

Urban Casavant CEO of CMKX said, "Through the combined efforts of all the parties in this venture we have gathered a new frontier for the well being of our shareholders and company alike. The company will be moving rapidly into a revenue model here in the fourth quarter."

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.


 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
its called CYA Cover you azz


quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Highwaychild,

Don't you find the following a bit contradictory:

Urban Casavant CEO of CMKX said, "Through the combined efforts of all the parties in this venture we have gathered a new frontier for the well being of our shareholders and company alike. The company will be moving rapidly into a revenue model here in the fourth quarter."

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Watching the video now. I liked the part where the camera zooms in on about a thousand sand bags and they claim "those bags are all filled with gold". Looks like Urban's eating pretty well too.
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
USCA halted with the following code..


H.10 Trading Halt - SEC Trading Suspension .
The Securities and Exchange Commission has suspended trading in the security until further notice .
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
That could be good or bad. An H10 halt is the most ambiguous code of them all. It doesn't tell you anything. If it were halted pending news, it would be halted under I believe a T1 code. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
OK - Any ideas why?

It hasnt showed up on Yahoo as a PR or anything yet


 


Posted by justplayin on :
 
My Schwab screening shows it's still trading.

What gives??
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 

--------------------------------------- http://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/34-50599.htm

U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
WASHINGTON, D.C.
SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
RELEASE NO. 50599 / October 28, 2004
The Securities and Exchange Commission announced the temporary suspension, pursuant to Section 12(k) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 ("Exchange Act"), of over-the-counter trading of the securities of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board symbol “USCA”), of Las Vegas, Nevada. The suspension will commence at 9:30 a.m. EDT, October 28, 2004, through 11:59 p.m. EST, on November 10, 2004.

The Commission temporarily suspended trading in the securities of U.S. Canadian Minerals because of questions that have been raised about the accuracy of publicly disseminated information concerning, among other things, U.S. Canadian Minerals’ financing and mining activities and the value of U.S. Canadian Minerals’ purported assets.

The Commission cautions broker-dealers, shareholders, and prospective purchasers that they should carefully consider the foregoing information along with all other currently available information and any information subsequently issued by U.S. Canadian Minerals.

Further, brokers and dealers should be alert to the fact that, pursuant to Rule 15c2-11 under the Exchange Act, at the termination of the trading suspension, no quotation may be entered unless and until they have strictly complied with all of the provisions of the rule. If any broker or dealer has any questions as to whether or not he has complied with the rule, he should not enter any quotation but immediately contact the staff of the Securities and Exchange Commission in Washington, D.C. If any broker or dealer is uncertain as to what is required by Rule 15c2-11, he should refrain from entering quotations relating to the securities of U.S. Canadian Minerals until such time as he has familiarized himself with the rule and is certain that all of its provisions have been met. If any broker or dealer enters any quotation for the stock of U.S. Canadian Minerals that is in violation of the rule, the Commission will consider the need for prompt enforcement action.

The Commission acknowledges the assistance of the National Association of Securities Dealers, the Saskatchewan Financial Services Commission, and the United Kingdom Financial Services Authority in this matter.

If any broker-dealer or other person has any information that may relate to this matter, call Michele Wein Layne of the Pacific Regional Office of the Securities and Exchange Commission at (323) 965-3850.

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Doing a little more digging here, an H10 halt is an SEC halt, not a trading market halt. Again, can't say if that's good or bad but if the SEC is halting them, I'd guess something serious is in the works.
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Copy paste
http://www.sfsc.gov.sk.ca/ssc/files/enforcementorders%202004/casavantminingkimberlite(temporder)oct26-04.pdf
 
Posted by Bob Frey on