Good to see you are still here, and a Long at that !!

It is all quiet on the Q-bid Front...

I am just Qbid's Guard Byrd... lol... Ready to swoop down on the likes of U4 and his croonies...

-John-

You've got a good memory !!!

May I ask your name?

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Originally posted by blueeyedtraderboy:
Lol
You've got a good memory !!!
May I ask your name?
-John-

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WHoa!!!

I go to John Jay on 59th Street and 10th Ave...

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Originally posted by blueeyedtraderboy:I actually did go to the website after I posted that question... I am sorry for asking this, but is that really you?

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Originally posted by blueeyedtraderboy:
You've got mail

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Lol, flirting...

Don't worry I can keep Wally in check...

Never forget these words...

All is fair in love and war...

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Originally posted by blueeyedtraderboy:
Wallace, the sore on the a s s of humanity....

Lol, flirting...

Don't worry I can keep Wally in check...

-John-

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BUT

I am just trying to keep everyone laughing, and if it is at the expense of 'Wally' then so be it...

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Originally posted by blueeyedtraderboy:
Lol, Wallace bugs me to no end. Yes I have somewhat twisted humor (did you see the 'DD' I left for him, hahah)

BUT

I am just trying to keep everyone laughing, and if it is at the expense of 'Wally' then so be it...

-John-

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He just gives off a real shady vibe... Why discuss a stock you don't like, EVERYDAY?!?!?

Did my second email come through??? Hopefully your server picked it up!

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Originally posted by blueeyedtraderboy:
I take it you accept at face value his 'buys' at .0001 a few Friday's ago?

He just gives off a real shady vibe... Why discuss a stock you don't like, EVERYDAY?!?!?

Lol...

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Okay guys I am out... smoke brake with the boys on the block... or is that byrds...lol...

Either way see you all in a bit... err byt...

Oh, I checked out your website as well. WOW! You are beautiful.
Great shots.

good luck with it lil'! email me if you have any more questions. i build computers from scratch as well (it's just a hobby), so i can answer some Q's if you need.

So my question for conversation is, who do you choose to listen to, take advice from, or 'believe'.. and why? What makes a person worthy of being taken seriously? Someone who makes wild-ass predictions while losing large amounts of money, or someone who says stuff you don't like to hear, even though he's making money?

The reason I ask is because one thing that fascinates me about this whole pennystock thing is seeing who 'follows' who. Some members here have become their own cult of personality, with everyone rallying around them and their great predictions. Well, I got bored earlier today waiting for the bug-guy to come by for my quarterly bug killing extravaganza (we'll be there between 10-11.. right!) so I did some looking around on past predictions to see how well these superpickers have fared.

I decided to pick on one particular not-to-be-named user who consistently makes bold claims that everyone loves to hear. I won't KNOCK on him since he's apparently a stock picking WIZard, but here's a few gems I liked:
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WNMI (down over 90% to .003):

I'm definately holding til mid week & will maintain a position after that as well. I think we could see .20+ easy!

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IBZT (currently under SEC investigation, down over 90% to .0044):

Ken Schilling will make us all very happy in the not to distant future!

The mere fact that none have been shipped yet is the only reason we can buy this stock under a dime. Right now I'm buying soon enough I won't even consider buying more. Thank you Ken!

All I know is we will one day hear people, new posters, braging about how they caught this stock under $5 a share & we will be wondering how much higher than $5 we're headed!

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WGFL (down 70% to .012):

Yes! $1. is possible. Not sure when but we may see some drama when the commercials hit the airwaves. Let a PR come out that says they ignited huge interest & people signing on at a healthy clip. Who knows we may see a buck much sooner than anyone imagines. At .04 a share,,,,,,

Entry at .04 looks good to me because I already bought higher. Somewhere between now & Midsummer I'm looking for .30 to .35. Could fly through that if they get a real good response to commercials.

Yep! Just let the WGFL make a big splash & this stock will go through the roof!

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GZFX (down 77% to .0275):

I'm ready to add to my position here. These low teens will not be here forever. (ok so he was right about one thing...

I think people finally woke up on this. That's why I bought more during the .10 range.

I can honestly see us trading at $5 sometime in the future.

I'm so convinced of GZFX I'm buying more eventhough I do not believe in averaging up. This stock will trade in multiples of dollars!

It could hit a dollar before the year's out

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I'd hate to know how much this guy has lost, and how much money people have lost by listening to him. Makes it sound like becoming a multimillionaire is as easy as dropping a few thousand bucks into his favorite penny stocks. woohoo! everything is going to a dollar! YES we're rich!!

Anyway.

-R

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Originally posted by RobinO:
I figure the weekend is a perfect time to dig up some dirt to keep the conversation flowing on a slightly more interesting level.

I decided to pick on one particular not-to-be-named user who consistently makes bold claims that everyone loves to hear. I won't KNOCK on him since he's apparently a stock picking WIZard, but here's a few gems I liked:

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OK! I'll bite.

Yep. I lost on WNMI & WGFL. Took the remainder of those funds & bought more ONEV. I'm still on GZFX & will buy more. They are not doing so hot now but when they say they're doing something they do it. Evidence; Ben Curtis commercials as well as others.

The one that really hurt me was IBZT. Ken Schilling out right lied to us & I went for the hype. I didn't get too crazy with WNMI & WGFL but I loaded up on IBZT & got burnt good.

That's what happens with pennys & I went into those companies knowing the risks. You didn't even mention MLON. Within a month of buying into that stock the CEO surprised us with a serious new wrinkle in his business plan & I'm down 35% with no intention of buying more however I'll hold what I have for reasons I'll not go into.

Please take note of the fact that I did not sit around & bash a stock.

I won't bore you with bragging about the ones that made me a mint because anyone could write a bunch of BS about past perfomance.

I will say this. Sometimes I buy a stock like QBID (Feb 2nd at .0004) just to watch it immediately retrace to .0002 & stay there for a couple weeks. I hold it & wait through several runs. When I take huge profits I hold a core position & wait for the possible windfall that most don't have the stomach nor dicipline to even consider. That's why when a stock skyrockets it doesn't produce that many millionaires because most people are afraid to even dream about best possible outcome.

I still think GZFX will pay me huge returns & believe it can do a dollar for all the same reasons SIRI did. Eventhough MLON's CEO is a piece of work I believe there just might be a suprise in store for it as well. ONEV,,,Bill Gates likes it, so do I & looking for $2 a share.

But that's the way it is with penny stocks.

QBID? Aside from the fact that I can not lose I keep in mind some simple facts, Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share. With a Half Trillion Dollar Target who needs a bullseye. I will not sell my core position for less than $1 pps. After all,,,

"All we ever had to do is launch!"

Posted by: end2war
Date:9/12/2004 11:09:16 AM
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I own quite a lot of stock of QBID... and I certainly hope it succeeds... but the clock is ticking and it is using its resources... for me, the immediate issue is advertising for subscribers, network line ups and confirmations that RCN is carrying the programming... also in the immediate category is how many other carriers are signed up at this time... and will there ever be some sort of coordinated advertising in the regional markets... I still believe RCN and TW are going to carry QTV in some markets... and the broadcasting [when programs finally are really on the air to subscribers and potential subscribers] will also logically answer the question of what advertising QBID has signed on for initial launch... and give proof positive if there is any advertising revenue lined up... [by the way, the delay in launch could be over getting certain advertisers on board so they will have the money needed to advertise to subscribers... there is sort of a chicken and egg problem here that subscribers may be reluctant to pay at the start up when, by defination, not many will be watching...]

The relative silence from QTV is refreshing in comparison to the many announcements that, one by one, failed to materialize... the hot line of forcasts is stopped... but Frank still is saying things to people that are not happening on the schedule he announces [I know this from a two personal conversations]... and we have the recent news on the web about the delay that was widely expected to be a 9/4 launch...

There is a problem for the shareholder of figuring out what Frank is doing now... and for a change he is not telling us... Why did he say those things that have not proven out... why is he less vocal now... does he intentionally tell shareholders things that he knows are not true to "manage" the price of the stock or to "manage" the shareholders... or is he working in a rapidly changing environment that he does not really understand... or that is changing on him and he understands what is happening but it is not adviseable to keep posting to the shareholders on every little twist and turn of positive or negative developments [This is it, IMO]... and has Frank realized that there is nothing to say now except to get things going...

Does the quite mean that we are on the verge of some demonstration of a real launch and that will speak for itself... or is Frank starting to lose it... and this station will never launch anywhere... I highly doubt negative scenario because the concept is good and the effort is there... and all the talk seems to show that Frank has it within reach... and probably has a firm grip on something which is going to "rollout" like the latest announcement says... rollout over the next 40 days or so...

WHERE ELSE DID YOU POST THAT?

"now, what is a byrd? :-/
have i been lurking too long and not keeping up?
~BB"

Byrd is a little inside joke, from this thread and some of my 'buddies' on the CMKX thread... Byrd is a little word some of us say (or am I the only one (Where is Stoned Pigeon for this,lol I blame him) if I want to go smoke something that isn't a cigerette, that is byrd... A little stupid hidden meaning that's all...

(My other screen name before was byrdturd. I got banned after I verbally gave someone a 'bloody' nose in cyber space, lol.. I still say it was worth being banned for the two days!)

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Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
I can't imagine how long that must have taken you.
Guess you've never picked a stock that tanked huh?

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Actually about 30-40 minutes. The bug-guy had my address wrong and ended up getting to me last. ah well. But no, I have picked stocks that have tanked. The difference is I saw that they were about to tank and sold out in time. I only lost about 10% on IBZT since I sold at the first sign of trouble, and I sold about 80% out of my QBID shares at the first delay in May, so I ended up +1200%, played a few dips and made some more, and now my remaining shares are still up 70%. The point is that we all pick stinkers, the trick is to know when to drop them.

I get the impression that a majority of the people here like to hold these things all the way to the dirt because they 'believe' in them. They believe every bs lie from the CEO in every fluff PR and love to rally around a few pumpers who make generic cheerleader one-liners that everyone just looooves to hear. It's a common trait in humans to tune out the stuff we DON'T want to hear, while fully buying into the things we DO want to hear, regardless of how improbable it may seem (religious organizations, faith healers, astrologers, state lotteries, con-men, etc would be out of business if this wasn't true).

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It is all a matter of how you play the game in Penny land. I for one have made a good amount of money on some of the stocks you have listed picked by our Whiz.

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Good deal. I think you're exactly right though.. it's possible to make money on these things, but I see way too many newbies who have never invested who blindly follow these penny stock champions who boldly tell them that everything they own is "going to a dollar!" or going to "shoot to the moon!" regardless of the 100 warning signs that their stock is NOT going to do either. They get wrapped up in the belief that they will be a millionaire in 2 months and retire on their yacht in the caribbean, so they continue holding because everyone here tells them there's nothing to worry about.. afterall.. "we're going to the moon!"

I can show you dozens of threads on Allstocks alone where pumpers and cheerleaders get everyone worked up thinking that their subpenny stock is going to a dollar and going to make everone rich. But can anyone show me a recent thread here where the stock actually DID do that? I think the QBID Feb-Apr timeframe is the only one that even comes close.

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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
RobinO --- ONE SIMPLE QUESTION.

WHERE ELSE DID YOU POST THAT?

Be smart guys! Why would they waste that time for QBID?

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Huh? Allstocks is the only stock-related message forum I read. Not sure what your point is. I had some spare time yesterday and decided to do some DD. I already know as much as I need to about the company, so instead I decided to take a peek at the history of some of the pumpers here. You may think that's mean or irrelevant, but I'd disagree. In any field, it's best to shop around for a professional or someone to get advice from. Whether it's a doctor, stock broker, accountant, home builder, or wedding photographer, you want to know that the person you're hiring has a good track record of positive results and satisfied customers. If you're shopping for a stock broker and find out that Broker A has a track record of -80%, would you feel comfortable letting him handle your money? Or would you feel more comfortable going with Broker B, who has turned consistent results of +15% over the last 10 years?

The point is that there are many people here who do nothing but pump pump pump.. If you see their posts in other threads, they do the same thing and make the same claims.. pump pump pump.. going to a dollar! going to the moon! Yet none of these things has materialized. In fact, the exact opposite has happened. Yet no one ever tells them to stfu. But when someone posts some accurate, yet negative information, the board comes down on them for being a basher and tells that person to go away. This intrigues me.

My goal is to gain some insight as to why people choose to ignore the bearers of bad news who have generally been correct, while showering praise and admiration on those who make positive and uplifting, yet false and unwarranted claims.

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Robin O.... can>t quite figure out who's horn your blowing...but your definately blowing.... Smoke maybe ?.....well..Awww... use your own imagination.

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Thank you for your intelligent response. Your depth of knowledge and illuminating insight has added greatly to the topic at hand.

In the end, it is your choice to make whether you buy a stock or not. That's what it means to invest. You must be willing to accept the risk and know it is your sole responsibility whether the outcome be good or bad. Research the stock. Research the company. Look at the charts. Weigh the positive against the negative and come to your own conclusions.

The potential of QBID alone was enough for me to make up my mind about this....but I still did my homework before I put my "buy" order in. My decision, my responsibility, my money, and my risk based on MY research.

GLTA

Janie

I think that sums up how I feel... listen we all take risks... add up how much food we have eaten up McCrapola's and at Burger Slop in our life times and that is what probably most of us have put into Qbid, 1-3k dollars... We have blown that on crappy fast food that goes no where but down the toilet

I've spent 1500 to go to Mexico for 6 days... And it was 'alright'... I invested my money into Q back in Feb... So far I have gotten more than its value in entertainment alone!!!

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OK! I'll bite.

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Thanks for doing so. In a respectable manner even! I'm impressed. As you can see by the responses of others, the degree of maturity and intelligence obviously ranges greatly among the users here.

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I'm still on GZFX & will buy more. They are not doing so hot now but when they say they're doing something they do it. Evidence; Ben Curtis commercials as well as others.

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Can't say I blame you there. They seem to be one of the few pinkies who actually follows through on their claims (oh and they have a nice website, which I think is a first! ). It's still way down though, and I'm not sure they'll ever be able to compete with others in the market, but I don't think now is necessarily a bad time to buy. Holding through the downturn obviously wouldn't have been a good idea however.

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The one that really hurt me was IBZT. Ken Schilling out right lied to us & I went for the hype. I didn't get too crazy with WNMI & WGFL but I loaded up on IBZT & got burnt good.

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I too bought a bunch of IBZT, figuring that all of the national exposure they were getting would surely prevent them from doing anything that could get them in trouble. The difference is that the first time they bumped back delivery, I hit the sell button. If a company says they're going to do something by a certain date, and they don't meet that expectation, most people will sell and the pps will tank. If they do eventually get their act together, you buy up more. I don't think riding it out is a good idea. However, I would not and will not make excuses for a CEO or company the way many did with IBZT and are currently doing with QBID. Delays are never a good thing. QBID has now delayed from May 15 all the way back to Oct 1 with many excuses being made by Frank and the cast here at Allstocks. I have no confidence that people will be able to see the channel on Oct 1. If it *is* on the air then, I'll eat my words and probably buy more.

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That's what happens with pennys & I went into those companies knowing the risks.

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True, pink sheets are extremely risky. My personal belief is that probably around 95% of them have no intention of actually doing anything other than taking your money. You can still make money on them though if you don't get attached and buy into the CEO's nonsense. Ride the pumpers, then take your profits. Assume that the company is a fraud and that you're being lied to, and buy/sell accordingly. Is it really just another minor delay, or is the CEO trying to squeeze you out of your last few dollars? If you assume you're being liked to 100% of the time, you'll probably be right 95% of the time.

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Please take note of the fact that I did not sit around & bash a stock.

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Yes, you've done the opposite I'm not sure what the problem is with 'bashing' as everyone likes to call it. Everyone needs a reality check. I've never said anything ridiculous like "SELL NOW I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY BUT THIS COMPANY SUCKS SEEEEEELLL!!!" All I've ever done is dug up information that everyone else either ignored or didn't find for themselves, and made some recommendations based on my own experience gained from the line of work I'm in.

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I won't bore you with bragging about the ones that made me a mint because anyone could write a bunch of BS about past perfomance.

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Wouldn't mind hearing about some actually. By reading a bunch of other threads, it would seem as though most people are holding long and suffering greatly for it.

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When I take huge profits I hold a core position & wait for the possible windfall that most don't have the stomach nor dicipline to even consider.

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That always seems like the best thing to do. In fact that's the only reason I'm still holding a handful of QBID. Like I've said, I sold a vast majority for big profits, but even the cynical ******* in me would like to think that Frank will pull a miracle out of his butt and get this thing on the air. I find it doubtful, but the amount I have left is irrelevant to me if I lose it, but enough to do some good stuff with if it does do well.

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Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share.

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Yes but that would first require QTV to actually become a Genuine Broadcasting National TV Network

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With a Half Trillion Dollar Target who needs a bullseye.

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I've never been a fan of this 'stat'.. it's completely unsubstantiated and doesn't really mean anything anyway. RCN reaches something like 400,000 households I think. Let's be generous and say 12% of those people are gay. That gives them a target audience of about 48,000 people. Assume they pull some huge media blitz and attract 20% of that group.. They're at about 9600 subscribers. The gay community as a whole may command some huge amount of money, but 10,000 subscribers won't keep QTV afloat very long.

Anyway thanks for being a sport. Realize that I'm not trying to be mean, just tossing a dose of reality in the mix. A lot of people bought in at the .01 to .02 range because they believed a lot of the same stuff that has been pumped here. Many of them are probably down 50-70% and wondering what's going on. I think it's important for them to view this in comparison with other stocks that were sure to make us all millionaires as well........