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Now that is some good DD UPSIDE!!

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***How does a roll-up fit into the picture?
First, let's establish what a roll-up is. The definition from Investopedia states the following: In the context of venture capital, when a VC forces small companies to merge in order to reduce costs. If you see Urban as a venture capitalist, it's easy to see that he's been telegraphing every move he's made. That's why he said the plan is in the PR's.

Second, let's establish the basic goal of a roll-up. The easiest way to understand it, at least for me, is to envision a series of small, scattered and inefficient Mom and Pop grocery stores. Apply economies of scale to the equation and you can see the advantages of transforming those scattered stores into a chain of supertstores (this is the basic business model Walmart applies to retail and Home Depot applies to hardware). Just transfer the example to mining and you've got Urban's master plan. He saves money by centralizing and efficientizing every step of the process, that is, taking minerals from the ground to the store shelf and squeezing costs every step of the way.

So how do roll-ups fit into CMKX's future? First, they lie well within the boundaries of the business model I have speculated that Urban is following. Thus far Urban has steadfastly adhered to the model and I expect him to continue. Additionally, roll ups were specifically mentioned in the Dec. 4, 2002 PR (see A. below). Finally, Edwards and Angell have sponsored seminars regarding roll ups and Roger Glenn and staff are quite familiar with the process (see B. below).

So what's it mean? In my opinion, ("CMKX") is destined to become an exploration company with a financial arm and a "turn-key" project management arm. UCAD will provide the operating management, and Urban will provide the other necessary services (i.e., legal, marketing, cutting/polishing, etc.) that will complete a fully integrated marketing system. In other words, Urban will take diamonds and other minerals from the ground directly to the consumer.

At this point, I'm not sure which company will take the lead (i.e., CIM, UCAD, CMKX, etc.) but the economies of scale and synergy inherent in this combination make it a foregone conclusion. While the exact structure remains a bit nebulous, the inevitable march toward that goal is undeniably relentless. The future will be very bright for those with the foresight to see beyond the tip of their nose.

Good Luck

Notes:
A. Quote from the Dec. 4, 2002 PR http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=75107

This is the first in many targeted acquisitions and ""roll-ups"" of existing diamond and other mineral resources companies. With a seasoned management team, high technology exploration methods that can better profile diamondiferous kimberlite pipes (both magnetic and non-magnetic), and on-line audit oversight of mining operations, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International is poised to take advantage of a consolidation of junior mining companies without losing focus on its core claims in Saskatchewan.

B. Information regarding a seminar sponsored by Edwards & Angell http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=75111

Edwards & Angell were sponsors at the seminar, and the panel discussion covered the details of the best way to consolidate. The article is from 2/26/99

C. To learn more about roll ups and CMKX follow the links below: http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=518274

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
LANEBRO
A person(by own admission) of two weeks does not hold a position to make some strong statements you have. You are talking to people here with far more knowledge. I suggest continuing your education for another year or so. At that time maybe a question or two would be in order. We have lost some great posters from this site
because of this type of confrontation.
Should you decide not to take this as a helpful offer I will add you to my little green book of bashers.
VAN

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
SECMAN
You are already in the little green book.
VAN
PS Here is a question for you & Lanebro ( you can work together ) for the answer.
HOW MANY MINERAL CLAIMS ARE FILED IN CMKX NAME? A correct answer will be documented!

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Hey, VAN buddy! Ever consider it's all marketing? And from WHOM I wonder. Claim to what, a plot'o'land. I hit oil in my kid's sandbox. Buy MY stock,will ya. I race too.

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Originally posted by Upside:
Shadow,
It's not much but this is pulled from an old
CMKI filing:

On November 25, 2002 the Company agreed to acquire the Casavant Family Mineral Claims in certain kimberlite deposits located in the Province of Saskatchewan, Canada. The Mineral Claims were held in the name of five companies owned directly and/or beneficially by the Casavant Family and Morgain Minerals, Inc. (a company held by third parties with the claims under option). These companies include Commando Holdings, Ltd., Buckshot Holdings, Ltd., 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd., 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd., and 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. In addition, Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. acted as the claims and exploration manager for the five companies above, as well as, the claims held by Morgain Minerals, Inc. Each of these companies have agreed to transfer 100% of the Mineral Claims to the Company in accordance with the Mineral Disposition Regulations of Saskatchewan, 1986.

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Here is a reply to an inquiry to Morgain minerals about their claims being optioned to CMKM.

By: arete
06 Feb 2004, 12:35 PM EST
Msg. 62937 of 518692
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I just spoke with Ray Mongeau of Morgain Minerals and he said that MM and UC, he knows him and has seen him, had a discussion 2 years ago but has never heard back from him to finalize any deal. He said they definitely didn't have any deal including any option arrangement for MM claims. The original talks called for UC to buy MM claims for $120,000. So those claims from MM are not apart of UCs collection.

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
WILL
I am one of those who believes if the facts are in, the business run with attention to detail, good management, etc. It won"t make any difference what is said. We really need to lock down some of these things like SHADOW is doing, claims,track intercompany ownership,etc.We need to use public document as much as possible. PR'S though better than rumor can be only part truthful. It is very apparent on this board how a PR can be interpreted many ways. I don't agree with Wallace about the ancillary companys, I have already almost gone to free shares on 25m CMKX by trading them. Thta is my hedge,but we still need the poop on CMKX.
UPSIDE-Your research neglected to mention wether there were any diamonds.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 01, 2004).]

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***How does a roll-up fit into the picture?
First, let's establish what a roll-up is. The definition from Investopedia states the following: In the context of venture capital, when a VC forces small companies to merge in order to reduce costs. If you see Urban as a venture capitalist, it's easy to see that he's been telegraphing every move he's made. That's why he said the plan is in the PR's.

reduce WHAT COSTS?--
and i agree about the plan it IS the PR's


Second, let's establish the basic goal of a roll-up. The easiest way to understand it, at least for me, is to envision a series of small, scattered and inefficient Mom and Pop grocery stores. Apply economies of scale to the equation and you can see the advantages of transforming those scattered stores into a chain of supertstores (this is the basic business model Walmart applies to retail and Home Depot applies to hardware). Just transfer the example to mining and you've got Urban's master plan. He saves money by centralizing and efficientizing every step of the process, that is, taking minerals from the ground to the store shelf and squeezing costs every step of the way.

what proces is he "efficientizing" LOL selling more shares?

So how do roll-ups fit into CMKX's future? First, they lie well within the boundaries of the business model I have speculated that Urban is following. Thus far Urban has steadfastly adhered to the model and I expect him to continue. Additionally, roll ups were specifically mentioned in the Dec. 4, 2002 PR (see A. below). Finally, Edwards and Angell have sponsored seminars regarding roll ups and Roger Glenn and staff are quite familiar with the process (see B. below).

they've stuck to the dilution plan that's for SURE

So what's it mean? In my opinion, ("CMKX") is destined to become an exploration company with a financial arm and a "turn-key" project management arm. UCAD will provide the operating management, and Urban will provide the other necessary services (i.e., legal, marketing, cutting/polishing, etc.) that will complete a fully integrated marketing system. In other words, Urban will take diamonds and other minerals from the ground directly to the consumer.

they need more than 2 micro-diamonds

At this point, I'm not sure which company will take the lead (i.e., CIM, UCAD, CMKX, etc.) but the economies of scale and synergy inherent in this combination make it a foregone conclusion. While the exact structure remains a bit nebulous, the inevitable march toward that goal is undeniably relentless. The future will be very bright for those with the foresight to see beyond the tip of their nose.

economies of scaleand synergy will make it obvious...LOL
whichever one has the smallest OS will lead the way

Good Luck you're gonna need it

I have been reading many posts. Some folks are hanging on to this incredible future prospect. Others are trying to prove UC is a joke.

It's all so very simple really.

Urban likes racing. (can't blame the man)
Urban found a cash cow.

You'll probably do okay if you quit waiting for instant gratification.

Go live your life.
Check back every now and then. Move accordingly.

It's all a game.
A game of patience.

No diamonds.
No financials.
Lottsa worms... okay, bad joke.

Have fun, or get out/ life is too short. Trust me here.

It's really NOT much money out of pocket.

Quit trying to figure out what you absolutely don't have an inkling of.

Planned that way? Hmmmm?

Bottom line:
Urban IS brilliant. I have to admire his marketing strategy. In your face!

In terms of the mineral rights, it is disturbing that our mineral rights are
not registered with the government as
CMKX or CMK. anything. If you look at
the listing you will see new additions
and at time different percentages owned
by each group. I would feel much more
comfortable if the claims were in the
companies name and not Urban's... The
point is that we do not know anything
that is going on... Investors have put
many, many, millions of dollars into this
company. The company has a responsibility
to shareholders.

All we know is that CMKX has rights to
1.4M acres... We do not know what percentage
we have of those rights. We do not know if
Urban has control of other rights uniquely...

We may find out in the future that Urban has
struck gold and diamonds... on his claims and
not CMKX... but seeing how he is such a great
guy he might actually give the 40,000 shareholders of CMKX a small percentage.

As for Glenn... he has one job for which
he is paid for and that is to keep Urban
between the guardrails and from behind
the bars. His interests do not lie with
the shareholder but the company. (In most
cases the interests of the company are in
the interests of the shareholder. Not sure
with this company - any real move will require
a reverse split or merger and both will
have the same effect on the current shareholders
In my humble opinion.

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Originally posted by bill1352:
about sask ltd. i think that came up awhile ago..as 4 differant companies own differant %'s of the same claim it is held under one name. common sence says for there to be no real claims then 5 companies including shane resourses are in on the scam and since only cmkx is not reporting it would be highly unlikely for that to be true. remember all these companies have had prs about the same claims and canada is much stricter about pr's then the U.S.

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Now that DD puts a whole new meaning to the phrase, "CMKX to da MOON!"

And, "double secret quiet time theory" ?

Priceless!

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Originally posted by Upside:
Now here's some real dd! Using a micrometer, I just measured the thickness of an old stock certificate we have. It was about .008" thick. If you took all 800 billion CMKX certificates (assuming the same .008" thickness) and piled them on top of one another, it would be a pile 101,010 MILES high, or, almost halfway to the moon. I think I should get the research of the night award for that one!

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Guys I received this in an e-mail tonight. I thought it was a good read and something to share.

God Bless

Darin

Subject: Thoughts on the next 45 days re CMKX

The following e-mail by el camino echoes many of my own feelings. I believe sept 5 through October 15 will reveal many positive events for which we have all beenwaiting.
Distribution of the UCAD , Gemm and CIM (I think) dividends, Carolyne results, Ucad possibly moving to the AMEX, Langley group going public, results of the meeting in Canada are just some of the many things that will unfold.

If the distribution of UCAD an GEMM sares does not produce a short squeeze, then most certainly, distribution of the privately held CIM shares must produce a short squeeze because the MM's can not create shares for a privately held company--they must come to Casavant or to us (IMHO).

This will be the most difficult time for all of us. The MM'swill attempt to produce maximum pain,and discourage us in an attempt to make us sell. We have come too far to fall prey to such tricks now. Now more than ever we must pull together and be strong.
Warm regards and good luck to us all

Larry

Below is an encouraging email from el camino

What is goingon with CMKX?.....Well,

That seems to be the question of the week! Let me give you all my opinion of the events unfolding. Now mind you this is just my opinion based on well informed conversations that I have had with credible people associated with CMKM Diamonds.

First of all as I stated upon returning from Canada I feel more confident than I have at any other point in the last two years I have been holding shares of CMKX. The reason is not only because I saw the core drilling first-hand, but also because of the technology that brought us to that specific site to drill. The confidence exhibited by CMKM and UCAD management over the drilling is inexpressible. It is utter exuberance that I saw on the faces of management as they talked about the potential at this site.

Second, today's Green Baron Report coupled with personal insights confirmed to me that significant events will occur in September beginning as early as next Tuesday, September 7th. Exactly what those events are I do not know. However, I will share with you my excitement over the fact that CMKM is working fervently to re-establish itself as a reporting company. To do this they need to establish the fundamental elements required to be a reporting company. Completed audits that reflect the share structure, the companies financial posture, holdings, (valuation of all assets minus liabilities). This coupled with the strength of Mr. D. Roger Glenn's name attached to any formal reporting will certainly put a scare in the market makers and force an increase in the pps.

Thirdly, adding fuel to the fire we have the UCAD, CIM and GEMM dividends that are imminent and open up a whole new world of possibilities for the CMKX shareholders fortunate enough to have bought in before the date of record. I believe that a plan is unfolding that is going to reveal the short position by the market makers and resolve the issue once and for all. What that plan is I will leave for others with far more creative abilities than I to relate to everyone. I generally like to stick to the facts as I know them and gird them with my "gut" instinct.

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Originally posted by dwman:
This is from another board.

Guys I received this in an e-mail tonight. I thought it was a good read and something to share.

God Bless

Darin

Subject: Thoughts on the next 45 days re CMKX

The following e-mail by el camino echoes many of my own feelings. I believe sept 5 through October 15 will reveal many positive events for which we have all beenwaiting.
Distribution of the UCAD , Gemm and CIM (I think) dividends, Carolyne results, Ucad possibly moving to the AMEX, Langley group going public, results of the meeting in Canada are just some of the many things that will unfold.

If the distribution of UCAD an GEMM sares does not produce a short squeeze, then most certainly, distribution of the privately held CIM shares must produce a short squeeze because the MM's can not create shares for a privately held company--they must come to Casavant or to us (IMHO).

This will be the most difficult time for all of us. The MM'swill attempt to produce maximum pain,and discourage us in an attempt to make us sell. We have come too far to fall prey to such tricks now. Now more than ever we must pull together and be strong.
Warm regards and good luck to us all

Larry

Below is an encouraging email from el camino

What is goingon with CMKX?.....Well,

That seems to be the question of the week! Let me give you all my opinion of the events unfolding. Now mind you this is just my opinion based on well informed conversations that I have had with credible people associated with CMKM Diamonds.

First of all as I stated upon returning from Canada I feel more confident than I have at any other point in the last two years I have been holding shares of CMKX. The reason is not only because I saw the core drilling first-hand, but also because of the technology that brought us to that specific site to drill. The confidence exhibited by CMKM and UCAD management over the drilling is inexpressible. It is utter exuberance that I saw on the faces of management as they talked about the potential at this site.

Second, today's Green Baron Report coupled with personal insights confirmed to me that significant events will occur in September beginning as early as next Tuesday, September 7th. Exactly what those events are I do not know. However, I will share with you my excitement over the fact that CMKM is working fervently to re-establish itself as a reporting company. To do this they need to establish the fundamental elements required to be a reporting company. Completed audits that reflect the share structure, the companies financial posture, holdings, (valuation of all assets minus liabilities). This coupled with the strength of Mr. D. Roger Glenn's name attached to any formal reporting will certainly put a scare in the market makers and force an increase in the pps.

Thirdly, adding fuel to the fire we have the UCAD, CIM and GEMM dividends that are imminent and open up a whole new world of possibilities for the CMKX shareholders fortunate enough to have bought in before the date of record. I believe that a plan is unfolding that is going to reveal the short position by the market makers and resolve the issue once and for all. What that plan is I will leave for others with far more creative abilities than I to relate to everyone. I generally like to stick to the facts as I know them and gird them with my "gut" instinct.

We are ready to make the move. If for any reason other than September signals the end of a quarter and most public companies report within 30 days. It is the perfect opportunity for everything to come together. The successful trip to Ecuador by UCAD Senior management, the dividends, the trip to Sask, even yesterday's press release of Gary Walters suing major Wall Street traders for abusing the "stock borrowing program" and flooding the market with fraudulent shares will all play a significant part in the success of this company. While in Canada Urban told me one very important fact. "All of these people have a very important role to play, even you the shareholders have a role to play." Be encouraged by Mr. Casavant's words. They are not trite nor are they without substance. Anyone looking into his eyes can see the depth to which his wisdom extends. Never have I known a man more confident of his path and his destiny. Looking forward to a wonderful month ahead.

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LAS VEGAS, Sep 2, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to announce that the Company has finalized a joint venture agreement where St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM. The Company has received a $2,500,000 payment with three additional payments of $2,500,000 anticipated within the next 30 days.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

HE HE HE

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Originally posted by Upside:
Now here's some real dd! Using a micrometer, I just measured the thickness of an old stock certificate we have. It was about .008" thick. If you took all 800 billion CMKX certificates (assuming the same .008" thickness) and piled them on top of one another, it would be a pile 101,010 MILES high, or, almost halfway to the moon. I think I should get the research of the night award for that one!

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September 2, 2004

CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to announce that the Company has finalized a joint venture agreement where St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM. The Company has received a $2,500,000 payment with three additional payments of $2,500,000 anticipated within the next 30 days.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

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