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kevy0899
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Hi all. I don't post much but was hoping this email from ETRADE would help. The part I was most curious about was the reference to the 1 for 1 shares. Is that 1 GEMM for 1 CMKX? I apologize if these numbers are old news... Just a beginner here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you for your inquiry regarding the pending CMKX spin-offs. There are currently three spin offs taking place. The ex-date for the first transaction is 8/20/04. This is the date on which the seller, and not the buyer, of a stock will be entitled to a recently announced dividend/spin-off. It is indicated in newspaper listings with an "x". The shares from the spin-off are due to payout on 9/24/04. The terms of the spin off are 1 share for each 103950 shares held of CMKX. If you are due to receive the shares, you should see them appear in the first week of October.

The second spin off's ex-date is 8/31/04, with a pay date of 10/1/04. The terms of the spin off are .0256 shares for each 1 share held of CMKX. The third spin off's ex-date is 9/17/04, with a pay date of 10/3/04. The terms of the spin off is 1 share for each 1 share held of CMKX.

For additional information, you may contact CMKX's Investor Relations Department at 306-752-3755. Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Dawn ******
Monday-Friday 11a-8p PDT
916-858-5000 x5179
E*TRADE Securities Customer Service http://www.etrade.com


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that would be a bad thing for GEMM holders if correct....
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well unless something happened i didn't hear about the gemm dividend is 95,502,027 with a possible 127,336,036 if they use the option thats 200 million possible total...so lets get this straight when ucad is paid the o/s is 800 billion by the time cim is paid it will be 1.6 trillion and then 2 days later the o/s is 200 million all over the course of what 10 days???... seriously folks i think more attention needs to be paid to my theory about aged opium found in the woods...lol

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WOW!!!! The best PR of the day is comprised of secman, wallace, justthisice. Something big must be very close around the corner. The "Top gun basher" are pulling out all stops. Correction...the MMs have run out of bashers and had to resort to the dregs.
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originally posted by glassman:
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that would be a bad thing for GEMM holders if correct....

Come on, how bad could it be? Minor dilution of 800 billion shares or so, no one would even notice.


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Lol, Dman...

I thought the same thing too...

Wallace, SEC, glass, lol... This is bigger than the Jackson Five comming to town !

I am expecting a full assault by bashers this weekend... Considering what we have now

-John-


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quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
WOW!!!! The best PR of the day is comprised of secman, wallace, justthisice. Something big must be very close around the corner. The "Top gun basher" are pulling out all stops. Correction...the MMs have run out of bashers and had to resort to the dregs.

Wow it's only the first of sept. you trying to fill your pumper quota already? Geeze Urban must have you on a REAL short leash
lol
Genius post of the day goes to Tamie


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Don't worry SEC, soon enough your MM bosses will be filling your "quota" with something...

All Bash and no play makes Secman a dull girl...


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and gemm was up a penny almost today
i'm not knocking kevys post but somebody at scottrade had a bad fat thumb moment i think either that or they were in the woods too

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 01, 2004).]


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by secman:
[B]Geeze Urban must have you on a REAL short leash lol.
QUOTE]

Yeah, sec. He does. But it is a diamond studded leash. By the way, "REAL" is the magic word. We're real. You're not.

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quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by secman:
[B]Geeze Urban must have you on a REAL short leash lol.
QUOTE]

Yeah, sec. He does. But it is a diamond studded leash. By the way, "REAL" is the magic word. We're real. You're not.

[This message has been edited by dwman (edited September 01, 2004).]


wow never knew you were into stuff like that.. you might want to check out qbid


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LOL. oooooh. I like you sec.
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Hi All (just so old timers don't forget me and new comers know I exist).
---- been lurking in and out ---- holding tight to my 3.5 million shares (avg. 0.0001).
Hey byrd I am here now.....

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Just got this from Ameritrade:

Thank you for contacting us today concerning CMKX.

For CMKX, the spin off rate will be .0000155:1 for restricted shares of US Canadian Minerals Inc. The record date is 8-20-04, payable 9-24-04. This means your CMKX buy trades needed to settle on or before 8-20 in order to receive the spin off shares.

The company will be spinning off shares of Casavant Int'l Mining on 10/1/04 at a rate of .0256, fractions being dropped. The record date is 8/31/04. This means your CMKX buy trades needed to settle on or before 8/31/04 in order to receive the spin off shares.

Ameritrade has not received any official information regarding the GEMM shares.


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SECMAN & WALLACE
I don't believe I"m defensive. I would prefer to call it realistic.
1-I have $10k invested in pennys
2-That represents 3% of my equity portfolio
3-Because of CMKX I am aware of ECPN which I have made $10k in the last month
4-I have positions in all the Jv Partners
4a-NOTICE I have not metioned the paper dividends!!!
5-Last but not least CMKX with all it's problems provides me with these future possibilties:
1-Surrounding claims have produce large diamonds produced by the same volcanic activity of our claims.
2-We have hired legal counsel familiar with all aspects of the problems CMKX faces & has represented a number of jewlery enterprises.
3-Although I may be more closely related to the "Christian" posters in my approach, I am very much oriented to a strict discipline on my investments. Doesn't matter to me if CMKX bombs or not I still average about $7-900 a week trading within a very conservative profile.
You guys come in here and blast ALL approaches to EVERYTHING, which does a diserve to those trying to learn.
I suggest posting your opinion with much thought in a cyclical period most conducive to Newbie learning and cut the flame throwing.
Everyone must be comfortable in thier own investing.
All you lurkers and newbie jump right in here and express your opinion.
VAN

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Van,

Can I answer that one?

The answer is 0, nil, nada, zero, flatline,
not, none, ziltch...

There is not a single mineral claim registered under CMKX, CMKM, CMKI, or
any other company that we know to be CMKX.
At least according to the Government Web
page which is public and shows all claims
in the area.

Another item that was brought up on the board
is that the claims have to be worked within
a period of time or the rights are lost.
(I believe I have that one right).


quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
SECMAN
You are already in the little green book.
VAN
PS Here is a question for you & Lanebro ( you can work together ) for the answer.
HOW MANY MINERAL CLAIMS ARE FILED IN CMKX NAME? A correct answer will be documented!


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SHADOW
Yes my research also, Makes to wonder how they can pull off this deal.
I sure was not referring to you on the last few posts and doubt "they" have done enoygh research to answer.
Another thought regarding your efforts, doubt that being 100% right can overcome legal fees and trouble ??
VAN

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Noah,

I talked to Thomas Cook - He does not
represent CMKX...

He gave me a number to a Brian Devorak
(not sure if I have the spelling correct)
I have the number if anyone needs it.

Finally got ahold of Brian...


Bottom-line is that he has never had anyone
make this type of request. I can say that
he was not overly helpful either.

I asked for the information I am after...

He told me that the company was closed
for a scheduled Holiday and no one from
the company would be back for two weeks.
I would have to call during company business
hours when they were not on Holiday.

I then said, that I was sorry that I thought
that the company did not have an office in
Nevada. I thought the company office was
in Canada. He said it is... I said then
I have to go to Canada to get the information?

He said no that the books were with him...

I expressed that according to NRS-78
I only had to provide 5 days notice
from my understanding.

I asked to see the information as
outlined in NRS-78.

We did go through the Nevada State Regs... He was not
overly familiar with the regulation.

So we went through the regulation on-line...
He pointed out what I had originally posted...
before I saw the other area.

Bottom-line is that we went through the
area that I outlined. He asked if I owned
5%. We read the regulations together.
I pointed out the "or" and stated that
I read it as being a shareholder of record
for more than six months I am entitled
to see certain information.

I outlined that I didn't think he
was being very helpful to a sharholder
of the company.

Can't say it was the most pleasant conversation
I have ever had with someone.

We left our conversation with him asking
me if I would send an affidavid saying that
once I viewed whatever material that I would
not use that information in any way outside
of company (it wasn't policy, wishes, interests...
but something along those lines... basically
use this information in a way outside of the
what was in the best interests of the company.)

I said I would contact the Nevada State
SEC to determine what I did and did not
have to agree to...

He told me to send him the letter and
we would go from there.

I thanked him for his time.


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Originally posted by noahltl:

Shadow, every corportation in the State of Nevada, has to have at least a resident agent. CMKM's resident agent is:

Thomas C. Cook
Firm: Law Offices of Thomas C. Cook

Address: 4955 S. Durango Dr., Suite 214
Las Vegas, NV 89113-4436


Phone: (702) 952-8519

Fax: (702) 952-8521

E-mail: Contact Us


I'm sure he will be able to help you if you want to pursue the information.



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way to go shadow....you remind of another very astute investor i once knew
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Bashers vs pumpers


What I see are bashers using unsubstantiated rumors.

1. Prove to us UC is using our OS to fund his hobbies. I want you to prove that statement.

Everything the bashers are saying is totally 100% unsubstantiated. UC could be a sincere businessman trying to hit it big.


Prove what you are saying if you can.


I think WWJD hit the nail on the head. Our lawyer thinks his legit. Should I trust Wallace whom I dont know or any other basher here or someone with an official stake.

1. The Canadian government recognizes us as legit, they have issued the permits for the surveys and for the drilling.
2. The SEC thinks we are legit. A letter written by the SEC addressing the concerns of investors said we were checked out in March 2004, and nothing illegal was discovered.
3. Our lawyer thinks we are legit.
4. Our partners, including a major player in UCAD , Cameco, thinks we are legit.


Who should I trust, these parties or the bashers on this board who claim inside info but wont even use their real name.


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Shadow,
Can you provide a link to that claim map page?

quote:
Van,
Can I answer that one?

The answer is 0, nil, nada, zero, flatline,
not, none, ziltch...

There is not a single mineral claim registered under CMKX, CMKM, CMKI, or
any other company that we know to be CMKX.
At least according to the Government Web
page which is public and shows all claims
in the area.

Another item that was brought up on the board
is that the claims have to be worked within
a period of time or the rights are lost.
(I believe I have that one right).




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quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Bashers vs pumpers


What I see are bashers using unsubstantiated rumors.

1. Prove to us UC is using our OS to fund his hobbies. I want you to prove that statement.

Everything the bashers are saying is totally 100% unsubstantiated. UC could be a sincere businessman trying to hit it big.


Prove what you are saying if you can.


I think WWJD hit the nail on the head. Our lawyer thinks his legit. Should I trust Wallace whom I dont know or any other basher here or someone with an official stake.

1. The Canadian government recognizes us as legit, they have issued the permits for the surveys and for the drilling.
2. The SEC thinks we are legit. A letter written by the SEC addressing the concerns of investors said we were checked out in March 2004, and nothing illegal was discovered.
3. Our lawyer thinks we are legit.
4. Our partners, including a major player in UCAD , Cameco, thinks we are legit.


Who should I trust, these parties or the bashers on this board who claim inside info but wont even use their real name.


Raider? CMKX on the side of the machine and yet you refuse to accept the fact that he is using company money to fund it?????
give me a break.....

there is a big difference between LEGAL and LEGIT raider and if this is your first penny stock then you are going to learn the difference.

that is why i came to this board and parked here. cuz there are a lot of rumors being passed off as DD....

this letter from the SEC...first i've heard of it. can you share that with us? PLEASE? i would like to see it....

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RJR
Yes that covers it. While we wait some are digging,verifying,etc. All for the greater good.((hopefully)not the same as "Faith").
VAN

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Shadow

You are the man. Keep up the good work and let me know if there is anything you need from the rest of us to help out.


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http://www .ir .gov .sk .ca/Default.aspx?DN=3572,3385,2936,Documents

They have downloadable files that
have all of the claims... and dates.

Also shows percentage...

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Shadow,
Can you provide a link to that claim map page?

[QUOTE]Van,
Can I answer that one?

The answer is 0, nil, nada, zero, flatline,
not, none, ziltch...

There is not a single mineral claim registered under CMKX, CMKM, CMKI, or
any other company that we know to be CMKX.
At least according to the Government Web
page which is public and shows all claims
in the area.

Another item that was brought up on the board
is that the claims have to be worked within
a period of time or the rights are lost.
(I believe I have that one right).


[/QUOTE]

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VAN,

I wasn't aware that CMKX was going through any "cyclical period". To me, it has been the same old thing and accomplishes nothing but diverting attention to their stated business which is mining for diamonds.

As far as lurkers and newbies are concerned, I believe by reading ALL the posts, those that disagree with you are providing far more valuable information when it comes to securities trading and CMKX as opposed to "flame throwing". You see, whether you like it or not, some of us do see some possibilities in your favor but very few (for me only one). On the other hand, the are probabilities are greater that anyone currently owning CMKX shares will lose everything or almost everything they have put in as a so-called investment. That is what newbies, lurkers and anyone thinking of committing money to CMKX should be made aware of.

What you have done with other investments or penny stocks has nothing at all to do with CMKX. All the facts and opinions of experienced investors should be considered, not just those with vested interests and minimal experience.

It's somewhat like a hot stove. Some will listen to the caution and others will not. Still the proof is only there when you touch it...and that hurts. Therefore, the caution.


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Thanks shadow.
I downloaded this file in excel format and found some interesting things. Urban also owns a company called Saskatchewan Ltd. They have a load of claims on this list. Those could be ours but I can't imagine it's a good thing that they're not in CMKX's name. Also noticed that UCAD had no claims but Nevada Minerals had quite a few. Not drawing any conclusions here, just posting information.

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Upside,

I have never been able to find any information
that shows that Urban owns Saskatchewan Ltd.
Of course, if you look at the earlier maps
and references - it shows sask ltd. I
just do not have anything tangible to link
him... beyond the company saying that they
have the rights.

If you have anything I would be interested.

I am trying to determine what we really do
own or have rights to...


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Mr Devorak's number is 702-768-2960 if anyone wants to call him...
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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Thanks shadow.
I downloaded this file in excel format and found some interesting things. Urban also owns a company called Saskatchewan Ltd. They have a load of claims on this list. Those could be ours but I can't imagine it's a good thing that they're not in CMKX's name. Also noticed that UCAD had no claims but Nevada Minerals had quite a few. Not drawing any conclusions here, just posting information.


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quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
2. The SEC thinks we are legit. A letter written by the SEC addressing the concerns of investors said we were checked out in March 2004, and nothing illegal was discovered.

Who should I trust, these parties or the bashers on this board who claim inside info but wont even use their real name.


does anybody have a copy of this letter??????


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First, you show me proof UC is using OS to fund his hobbies while leaving shareholders high and dry.

You go first.


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Raider, i don't know what you want....
the case has been laid out in front of you....
Debi has spent a lot of energy arguing that this was a naked short, and even she admits she did NOT expect the 483 billion number much less the 800 Billion number.

the reason i would like to see the letter is to authenticate it.....


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RJR wrote (edited):

What I see are bashers using unsubstantiated rumors.

Everything the bashers are saying is totally 100% unsubstantiated.

I think WWJD hit the nail on the head. Our lawyer thinks his legit. Should I trust Wallace whom I dont know or any other basher here or someone with an official stake.
---------------------------------------------
Is it bashing to outline the truth and the facts? Based upon what I am seeing above, we cannot even say they own claims, right?

Is it a rumor or unsubstantiated that CMKX:

Has not provided financial information;
Withdrew from SEC filing;
Has found only 2 micro diamonds;
Has not released issued, outstanding and/or
holdings;
Did not inform anyone of the authorized
increase - even to this day.
That they did increase the authorized by
800 billion which further dilutes holdings;
That they have said sample results would be
forthcoming and have not;
That there are conflicts of interest involved
with various companies;
That there appear to be non-arm's length
transactions between companies;
That stupid statements have been made about
Mt.St.Helen's eruptions and other
outlandish and incorrect things;
That UC and/or CMKX is sponsoring things that
have nothing to do with the business of
mining for diamonds;
That - on and on and on and on?

Those things are not rumors. They are fact!

As for Glenn, what has he done for the shareholders to date? Oh yeah, it's top secret so it cannot be mentioned. Sure!!
Have another lollipop! That's BS. The least he could have done was caution UC about not releasing the 300 billion increase in authorized, instead of letting it come out in a negative manner. This is a guy who is supposed to know what it means to provide timely, accurate and proper information to shareholders. How many times do you have to be reminded that his responsibility is to whomever pays the bill? Whether you like it or not, that is UC and not you as a shareholder. That is where his loyalty resides.

Speaking of not releasing the information in a timely fashion and it being found out as it was, how many unsuspecting people were buying while other people who knew about the increase might have been selling...until it became common knowledge? How many of those buyers are right here following this thread?

The more I think about this the more I think it is outrageous that Glenn did not insist that the increase in authorized be immediately released upon filing in Nevada. He had to have known it was then available to a limited number of people until the word seeped out. That, in my opinion, is not Wall Street savvy or indicative of any securities expert and not the least bit knowledgeable. Trust that!!!

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Shadow,
It's not much but this is pulled from an old
CMKI filing:


On November 25, 2002 the Company agreed to acquire the Casavant Family Mineral Claims in certain kimberlite deposits located in the Province of Saskatchewan, Canada. The Mineral Claims were held in the name of five companies owned directly and/or beneficially by the Casavant Family and Morgain Minerals, Inc. (a company held by third parties with the claims under option). These companies include Commando Holdings, Ltd., Buckshot Holdings, Ltd., 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd., 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd., and 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. In addition, Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. acted as the claims and exploration manager for the five companies above, as well as, the claims held by Morgain Minerals, Inc. Each of these companies have agreed to transfer 100% of the Mineral Claims to the Company in accordance with the Mineral Disposition Regulations of Saskatchewan, 1986.


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WOW!
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The question is if all of these claims were transferred to cMKI/M/X, why aren't they now showing up under their name?
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