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Funny you should mention having control of another company.... perfect senario.
quote:Originally posted by will: It's not difficult to believe at all. You could expand it further and make it just as juicy as the Sterlings, Dr D's do with the positive spin. (Notice I took Zen off the list). Now what if, a guy had a company, issued a trillion shares, used the cash from the shares sold for his own personal gain. Had control of another company, through sweetheart deals to the other company he controlled, he sihpons off the assets, (valuable claims), to that company leaving the original trillion share company worthless. One day he says, well folks, we tried hard, it didn't work, BK, padlocks. game, set, match, check, checkmate, FINISHED, thank you for your support.
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Noahltl-----I think you are right on the money my old son. You're DD and your most impressive and informative posts have always been a pleasure to read since they have always been extremely informative. I admire your dogged sleuthing and deductions. Your detractors laugh and ridicule but cannot disprove or discedit any of your HO's which makes them, in my HO, utterly and completely FOS. Up, down or steady, your posts are straight up and a truly good read. Cheers mate.
4,000,000 long and strong will soon be singing a joyful song.
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Sorry, Justthis1nce, I can't get you a clean URL to the First Alert News, or the referenced URL. For some reason it's not letting me get to it. Was sent to me in an email from First Alert News, but isn't listed in First Alert News, under CMKX. Can't help ya, man. I have no idea what it means either.
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quote:Originally posted by will: Sorry, Justthis1nce, I can't get you a clean URL to the First Alert News, or the referenced URL. For some reason it's not letting me get to it. Was sent to me in an email from First Alert News, but isn't listed in First Alert News, under CMKX. Can't help ya, man. I have no idea what it means either
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SEEN A LOT OF COMMENT ON THIS POST = = = = = = = = = =
quote:Originally posted by noahltl: For the past several weeks, hundreds of people on the several different boards that I visit were reporting having received their UCAD dividends. Even a few here have reported such. How could that be when the TA announces they haven't even sent them out yet. The really amazing thing was that some people reported actually having sold their UCAD dividend shares. Now that can't be can it? Some might answer that a few brokerages were just jumping the gun on their accounting, and the sales were accidental. But to let shares be sold when they were restricted????? That is not going to happen that many times.
A couple of days ago, someone here asked how the MM's could short restricted shares. They can't. So the theory is that they substituted naked short shares of UCAD for the restricted ones. The brokerages put them in various investors accounts and they showed up when many went looking. They could be sold, because they were only naked shares, not restricted shares.
The MM's were shoving in naked shorts all day today in many people's accounts so that they would be diluted in the mix with all of the real dividend shares.
Buy guess what, no legit shares showed up today. Instead Roger announces that they will be put in our accounts on Oct 6. THE GOTCHA MOMENT Now it is easy to catch the naked shorters. They have placed all of these additionally shorted UCAD shares into accounts to cover, and now each placement can be traced directly to the Naked Shorter.
Coincidence that this occurs on the effective date of the SEC regs on naked shorting? Coincidence that CMKX will place the divies on the 12th day from now, the day before the 13th day for settlement?
I think this was a brilliant head fake by Roger to get the naked shorts to tip their own hands and show us what they got.
= = = = = = = = = = What was said here in a round-A-bout way stem from a fact that everyone seems to have overlooked. Dividends are paid ONLY on O/S,this does not include retired,restricted(why would a company write a check to everyone in the world?;(This would be like the government collecting taxes and giving it to everyone who doesn't pay taxes! WHOOPS I guess they do that). IF there are naked shorts any difference in share value (to include dividends or difference in share price at sale) come from the MM. There goal is to make the difference a negative. The game being played here is to expose the opposition R.Glenn vs MM's MO VAN PS The report of people having received & sold UCAD dividend might be a planted rumor ?
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BYRD, I'm not even going to ask if you're going to behave this time around. I already know the answer. Good luck, see if you can last a week this time.
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WILL Had some trouble following your question, but guess you think the math indicates higher shares of O/S This means that the company will need to explain the dilution. VAN
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No, Van, I'm saying the .00009.. dividend will be paid 10/6, and the round up, or additional dividend will be paid 10/18. They adjusted the UCAD dividend, but the record date of that was 8/20. Maybe today's news has to do with the CIM dividend??? Most confusing crap these people put out. Maybe it will help if you explain what today's news means:
CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004 via CDS September 25, 2004
Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004
quote:Originally posted by VNGNTN1: WILL Had some trouble following your question, but guess you think the math indicates higher shares of O/S This means that the company will need to explain the dilution. VAN
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WILL Hate to be so simplistic, but I think it is a stall. Don't know why. There are lots of possibilities Pos/Neg. Plus the SEC rules change may complicate. VAN
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I don't even know what dividend it is referring to now. Says the one with the record date of 8/31, thought that was the CIM dividend.
quote:Originally posted by VNGNTN1: WILL Hate to be so simplistic, but I think it is a stall. Don't know why. There are lots of possibilities Pos/Neg. Plus the SEC rules change may complicate. VAN
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Can you guys explain to me why the title of the PR says paid via CDS? I'm not sure I understand that.
Do you guys not believe it possible that the A/S was raised in order to sell shares back to MM's that were naked shorting so that those MM's could cover the nakeds, and then Urban uses the proceeds from selling the "cover" shares to buy back and retire shares to eventually bring the O/S back down?
"Allstocks must really be forgiving. Do you think you can be civil, polite and behave yourself now?"
I can try... If that doesn't work, I had a teacher in second grade put duck tape over my friends mouth, while I got duct taped to a chair... (Catholic school for ya)... lol...
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CMKX has me racing against the clock... I need more shares! Hmmmmm... I can sell a liver, I can get by on one (Homer Simpson)...lol...
Anyone have any dividends magically show up in your accounts?
I have Choicetrade and they haven't posted anything to my account as of today... I was just curious, thats all
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Good afternoon, all.
Tina, Easily forgiven! No big deal. LMAO
JBCak, ????????? Allstocks must really be forgiving. Do you think you can be civil, polite and behave yourself now?
noahltl, How in hell can you even suggest there are no outstanding shares of CMKX? Did I misunderstand your post?
In hell, I won't suggest it. What I was saying is that it is as easy for me to say there is zero OS, as it is to say there is 800 billion or 1.2 trillion, because the OTC BB, that created those numbers, didn't even have the right date, so how can we assume anything else is fact.
CMKX has REPEATEDLY said that shareholders and investors need to listen to OFFICIAL COMPANY Press Releases...
Any OTHER information (that INCLUDES otcbb DOT COM YES DOT COM.... AGAIN DOT COM, COMMERCIAL SITE... Are they biased? Who reaps the profits of this website?...) is not official information and should not be listened to. Again I trust CMKX and will listen to ONLY THEM... Not OTCBB. com
And what Noah is trying to say is that, in theory, since NO ONE EXCEPT CMKX Diamonds knows the true O/S count, it is possible for Roger Glenn to have backed financing to buyback a LARGE amount of the O/S... If there was a true NSS problem, buyback a large percentage of the shares would help to 'prove' Rogers case that infact a NSS problem is prevelant.
What Noah is trying to say, I think anyways, is that no one knows how many shares, and I for one DO NOT BELEIVE IT TO BE 800 BILLION O/S , MAYBE A/S but that doesn't mean squat...
The possibility of Noah being right is no more or LESS than Wallace being correct or wrong.
Since we DO NOT KNOW THE SHARE COUNT, ANY ONE OF US CAN BE RIGHT, OR WE ALL CAN BE WRONG...
Untilt here is proof of the share count, no one is less or more right... NO ONE HERE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COMPANY... And that is the way it should be
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"Untilt here is proof of the share count, no one is less or more right... NO ONE HERE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COMPANY... And that is the way it should be"
That begs the question: Why should it be that way? Wouldn't you feel much better knowing the share structure. The company has had months to publish it. An audit was completed before the T/A fiasco. Why do you feel comfortable not knowing, and don't say because you trust these people to have your best interest at heart, because let me tell you, they DON'T !
quote:Originally posted by will: "Untilt here is proof of the share count, no one is less or more right... NO ONE HERE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COMPANY... And that is the way it should be"
That begs the question: Why should it be that way? Wouldn't you feel much better knowing the share structure. The company has had months to publish it. An audit was completed before the T/A fiasco. Why do you feel comfortable not knowing, and don't say because you trust these people to have your best interest at heart, because let me tell you, they DON'T !
Will let me repost the answer to that from last night.
There is a difference in being uninformed and confused. I own some stock in Northfield Laboratories who is finishing up on testing of a blood substitute. I don't see their tests results yet. I don't know what their attorney is doing with the FDA. When they dumped a bunch of shares in the market, I didn't moan and groan, because I knew it would be ok. Turns out they bought a bunch of manufacturing equipment so they could be ready on approval. I didn't run around questioning them with other shareholders. I didn't scream for a PR. I just waited to see why they did it. And when they sold a bunch more shares, the PPS dropped 8.00. But I didn't sell. And I won't because I trust the company, after doing my DD. And I have owned that stock longer than CMKX.
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So, it comes down to trust? Looks like your Northern Labs is a bit more stable, and better managed than CMKX. You may have reason to hang in there with them, but CMKX has shown that they haven't earned that type of blind faith.
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quote:Originally posted by will: So, it comes down to trust? Looks like your Northern Labs is a bit more stable, and better managed than CMKX. You may have reason to hang in there with them, but CMKX has shown that they haven't earned that type of blind faith.
They haven't earned mistrust either. Regardless of Wallace's rantings.
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noahltl wrote: They haven't earned mistrust either. -------------------------------------------- noahltl, are you reading the same posts the rest of us are reading? Even the normal pumpers are asking a few basic questions that convey a certain level of mistrust...
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noahltl wrote: Regardless of Wallace's rantings. -------------------------------- Got to go for now but will get back to you later about "rantings"...maybe even a few laughable quotes of yours.
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Well I trust CMKX is wanting to become a fully reporting Co again. And if that were to happen, probably about 14 of your 17 questions are soon answered...
Wally wrote...
Ask yourself simplier questions. What have they accomplished? Diamonds? Earnings? Informed Shareholders? SEC Filing? Objective Valuations of Claims? Issued/Outstanding? Full Disclosure? Non-Arm's Length Transactions? Shareholder Voting? Conflicts of Interest? Ambiguity? Convoluted Deals? 800 Billion Authorized? Reverse Splits? Worthless Dividends? Nepotism? ------------------------------------ Deuces and one-eyed-jacks are wild. Could all be one he$$ of a poker face U. C. has. Could be a bluff, could be a royal flush.But I'm all in, and I call.
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: noahltl wrote: They haven't earned mistrust either.
---------------------------------------- Wallace1 wrote: "noahltl, are you reading the same posts the rest of us are reading? Even the normal pumpers are asking a few basic questions that convey a certain level of mistrust..." ----------------------------------------
Wallace1...
Lack of patience doesn't mean lack of trust. The only posters I have seen imply lack of trust are you and a few of your buds. Everyone else seems just anxious for some good news. How can you say it conveys mistrust? Your statements convey mistrust. Please don't speak for me or others.
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