sarki316 Member posted August 25, 2004 11:48 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pencil down Sept 7th on your calander. That is when CMKX will make there huge announcment. REGARDING EVERYTHING. AND IT WILL BE VERY VERY GOOD.
(Come on, sarki... you have 8 more hours to be right!)
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i dont know about you folks but i think sggm has been the best stock buy i've seen in a while .02 a week ago to .32...that a passable % increase for 1 week. the a/s might be 950 billion but the float cant be over 10 million maybe 20 million. it has to be more then ucad they are up 1.05 on 55 thousand
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The comment was made by someone that 3 or 4 questions were asked about the mystery metal and none of the guesses were right. Surely uranium should have been one they asked about and got a "no" answer. Does anyone know if uranium was one that was mentioned. I still think it was uranium.
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kevy0899 Member posted September 07, 2004 15:08 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Bill... I emailed ETRADE a similar question. Find below a part of their response.. I emailed them a second time asking them if the 1/1 spinoff was with GEMM and they replied yes. Hope this is useful. Thank you for your inquiry regarding the pending CMKX spin-offs. There are currently three spin offs taking place. The ex-date for the first transaction is 8/20/04. This is the date on which the seller, and not the buyer, of a stock will be entitled to a recently announced dividend/spin-off. It is indicated in newspaper listings with an "x". The shares from the spin-off are due to payout on 9/24/04. The terms of the spin off are 1 share for each 103950 shares held of CMKX. If you are due to receive the shares, you should see them appear in the first week of October. The second spin off's ex-date is 8/31/04, with a pay date of 10/1/04. The terms of the spin off are .0256 shares for each 1 share held of CMKX. The third spin off's ex-date is 9/17/04, with a pay date of 10/3/04. The terms of the spin off is 1 share for each 1 share held of CMKX.
1 for 1 on the gemm split???? that has to be wrong. the gemm dividend is 95,502,027 shares which would make our o/s the same number. even if they add the option its only 222,000,000 plus change in shares. our o/s is not 222 million. even sterling, zen & dr.d smoking dope for a week straight couldn't come up with that number...lol. i think someone at etrade has a fat finger moment kevy. sure would be nice though
quote:Originally posted by dwman: The comment was made by someone that 3 or 4 questions were asked about the mystery metal and none of the guesses were right. Surely uranium should have been one they asked about and got a "no" answer. Does anyone know if uranium was one that was mentioned. I still think it was uranium.
But if the "ium" was still such a secret, what do you think would have been the answer even if the guy got it RIGHT?
I can't imagine a company deciding to keep something confidential... UNLESS some GUESSES it !
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Good point win, but I would hope they would not invite guesses and then lie about the answers. I really have no basis for thinking they would lie though. Also, that it is uranium is just my opinion but it sure would help the government's energy shortage.
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By: tonicma 07 Sep 2004, 04:04 PM EDT Msg. 78287 of 78289 Jump to msg. # CMKX not going up due to MM applying "reverse psychology" on us. Have you read oh it. Bascially the idea is to make the person think another way by "allowing" them to do what they intended to do in the first place due to their desire to defy the another person. So how does the MM apply this. Very simple. 1) MM want you to sell CMKX 2) shareholders go "NO MM I am buying more and holding no matter what happens" 3) MM go ok, well since we can't "make" them to sell than we will let them just hold and buy. 4) MM go "ok fine buy it and hold it" 5) We hold and is happy 6) MM make other company "close" to us to ballistic 7) shareholder go "what the f**k" 8) shareholder get pissed off at "THEIR INVESTMENT", note they are not pissed off at the MM but their investment. ie. "why is everybody going up and we are not damn it?" " I wish I bought GEMM, SGGM, UCAD instead of CMKX" 9) Shareholder began to "question" their CMKX holding. 10) shareholder go "well maybe I'll sell some of mine say > 50% gains and buy ucad and sggm 11) MM get your shares 12) we buy sggm, gemm, ucad 13) MM bring these baby down hard (as we have seen from gemm and ucad) 14) shareholder panic, gets pissed off sells ucad gemm sggm. After this the shareholder does NOT buy anymore CMKX immediately because of their previous action of selling CMKX and due to the fact that they still have "some" cmkx BUT the gains they made from CMKX is lost due to the declining of ucad gemm sggm they bought MM at the end benefits BIG time why 1) due to shareholder selling of cmkx, they cover and keep price down 2) They make profit from "shorting" UCAD SGGM GEMM by selling high than buying back low. So people, don't worry about the sggm going up etc. it will come down hard real hard due to people buying it. just watch and see. We saw it happen to ucad AND GEMM. Just hold your cmkx shares.
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I just sent ETRADE a mail asking them to confirm or deny the 1/1 GEMM statement they made.. I will let you know the response.
quote:Originally posted by kevy0899: I have to admit... I was shocked too. But I am also new to this and didnt really know what to think. Thanks for the response.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bill1352: [b]kevy0899 Member posted September 07, 2004 15:08
Posted by: zeninvestor32 In reply to: None Date:9/7/2004 4:19:42 PM Post #of 11641
COMPOUNDED MATH
Assumptions:
1. 800B share naked short. 2. 200B share OS on SGGM. 3. 40B share float in CMKX (float which does not include up to 760B restricted) 4. Urban distributes unrestricted SGGM 5:1 to only unrestricted CMKX (choosing to forego insider profit)
5:1 ratio on 800B naked short shares equals a 4 Trillion share short position hitting the books on SGGM for those short. Multiply that by .35 = $1.35T share short position. LOL
Do I believe the above will happen? No. Do I think it's possible? Sure, anything's possible at this stage. LOL I challenge someone to give me an argument as to why the above could NOT happen outside of my variables being off. Fun food for thought and proof positive that we know NOTHING since there are so many variables at the company's disposal. This has got to be the finest mystery ever crafted in the history of the financial markets. I can't wait for the resolution. Hopefully it will be a Sixth Sense-like spinaround that leaves you breathless. Excuse me, I have to go back to the counter for my free popcorn bucket refills.
Z
As always, these are my personal opinions.
Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.
It would take about $144,871 to buy up all of the outstanding shares of SGGM at the price of .01 cents per share. (SGGM is already shelling out 10 million dollars to CMKX, so 144 thousand wouldn't be hard for them to come up with.)
If the law of supply and demand holds true, they could conceivably bring the pps up to any price they want. (SGGM could even be buying up all of the available shares themselves, to do this.)
Now for specolation: When they bring the pps up to the price that SGGM is happy with, let's say .50 cents per share,
What would happen if CMKX lets loose a pr stating that the entire 200 billion SGGM shares controlled by CMKX would be offered as a dividend to its shareholders, in restricted form, on a 1 for 1 basis.
What would happen to the pps of CMKX?
Just pure specolation. What does anyone think of this?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've no concerns with the lack of PR's, nor do I care when they release one. I see the activity that is happening in the partnerships we're forming, I see Roger Glenn playing his cards, I see action occuring both in the stock market and in the drilling and am happy with the direction. To me, the fact that our partners value is increasing while ours stays flat is an indicator to me that they are trying to run up the other stocks because it's easier to control and they can use the increases as a way to shake investor confidence in CMKX. Doing that kind of thing just makes me hold onto my shares that much tighter.
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In response to SGGM manipulation...yeah it probably is happening. But if CMKX distributes the only free trading shares in the market to its shareholders (200billion), and the price is manipulated up to .50, the price of cmkx will increase, and then plummet back to where it was before. Once people receive the shares of SGGM, they will sell because they know it's not worth 50 cents. Obviously it's not, since it was manipulated to get there. In the example above the price is achieved through taking away the float. But when 200 billion shares are released eventually into float, that price per share is gonna be history. It'll drop, depending on how many shares are outstanding assuming they don't have any good news of their own that is independent of CMKX's business. Just my thought.
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i'm still guessing no news till after the gemm shares are paid except maybe a pr stating they took the option on the rest of the gemm shares. i'm wondering and i have looked but no legal answer found yet...can cmkx change the shares given on CIM without a pr stating so. i don't think a pr is legally binding. as there is no otc bb post on gemm as yet and if things follow suit it will work out to a third o/s. and since the pay date is 3 weeks give or take an explaination of the differance might be nice. since cmkx doesn't seem to have any plans of telling us it might help if we knew if they can change the amount without telling anyone. 20 billion shares fits all the info we do know for sure. the a/s of 800 billion and a few shares differance for 11 trading days. that is if each shares owned has been counted for each x-date. any facts found either way would be welcome.
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