DIVIDE AND CONQUER « Thread started on: Aug 9th, 2004, 11:45pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just figured I should elaborate just a little. Most of you got my point I hope.
To beat your opponent, one of the best ways is to divide and conquer.
Let's try to get along in the next weeks and months and get through this in one piece!
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Well, Wallace has all the pumpers shaking in their boots now. He's threatening to get 'really rough'. LOL He's also driving off all of the investors who come here for stock information. Hmmmmm. Maybe that's his intent. Hope we have a PR soon that brings an end to this nonsense, and allows us to move into some sensible discussion on this thread.
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Got this Green Baron update in an email a few minutes ago:
"August 2004 Focus Stock
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX)
Closing PriceAugust 9, 2004 - .0004
Website address: www.casavantmining.com
“The Stock Play of a Lifetime”
TonightThe Green Baron Reportis upgrading the status of our recentStock to WatchCMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKX) to a fully profiled pick for our members. The stock will now be added to the storied list of previously profiled stocks on our homepage at www.thegreenbaron.com, and percentage returns will be based on today’s closing price of .0004 per share. Please note that although our parent company has not been compensated in any way for the release of this information and does not expect to be compensated by CMKX in the future, our parent company Evergreen Marketing, Inc. and its employees currently own a substantial long position in shares of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKX).
CMKM Diamonds is involved in the exploration for diamonds in the Canadianprovince ofSaskatchewan. Exploration is being aggressively pursued in the Forte a la Corne area in centralSaskatchewan, where the company holds mineral claims to more than 1.4 million acres. Geologists believe the diamond-bearing kimberlite pipes inSaskatchewanwere formed some 100 million years ago. Compared to the diamond-bearing pipes inSouth Africaor theNorthwest Territories, Forte a la Corne pipes are huge. This information is located at the CMKX website at www.casavantmining.com, which is currently being updated partly because of the tremendous number of recent press releases and corporate developments that have occurred over the past 60 days.
About one month ago onJuly 13, 2004 ,The Green Baron Reportalerted our members that we would begin following CMKX as aStock to Watch. In that report, we stated that further due diligence would be required for us to feel comfortable enough to urge our members to own this highly speculative pink sheet listed stock. The Green Baron Reporthas grown extremely skeptical of Pink Sheet listed companies in general since these companies are not required to be fully reporting. We had shown reservations about CMKX because the only information we had concerning share structure was that the company had set the total authorized number of shares the company could potentially issue at 500 billion.
In subsequent updates,The Green Baron Reportalerted our members of additional press releases that reported CMKX shareholders would be rewarded with stock dividends of three different companies; a bulletin board stock called US Canadian Minerals (UCAD), a pink sheet listed stock named Juina Mining (GEMM), and shares of a company not yet listed called Casavant International Mining. The share dividends will begin to be awarded to shareholders of recordAugust 20, 2004 . Although we were excited by each new dividend announcement,The Green Baron Reportwas still apprehensive since it was not clear how many shares would be rewarded per share owned in CMKX.
Our upgrade of CMKX, is based among other reasons, on the fact that the respected and renowned legal council for CMKX, Mr. D. Roger Glenn at Edward & Angell, LLP, is still actively working with CMKM Diamonds. In a recent press release, it was noted that Mr. Glenn was planning on traveling with the company’s management toSaskatchewan…to facilitate the company’s becoming fully reporting. Our sources indicate that this meeting will take place this week. Please understand that in all our experience, we have never seen an attorney of Mr. Glenn’s reputation associate himself in the public eye with a pink sheet listed company. We have concluded that his ongoing relationship to CMKM Diamonds indicates that there may be much more positive developments yet to be announced.
The Green Baron Reporthas calculated the potential returns from previously announced stock dividends, and views the strong possibility of additional stock or cash dividends. Our calculations indicate that at the current price of .0004 per share, even if the company has reached its total authorized stock issuance that an owner of CMKX stock at these levels could still stand to see a very nice return of its investment over time. The recent press release stating the receipt of $3,000,000 cash, and the inclusion of multiple partners in its mining projects lends further credibility to the company.
In conclusion,The Green Baron Reportnow suggests our members with speculative investment accounts to consider our new position on this potentially explosive stock opportunity. Although past performance is no guarantee of future results, priorGreen Baron Focus Stockpicks profiled on our home page tend to rise dramatically in the days, weeks, and months following our initial profile. Please consider yourself alerted as we strongly believe we will able to say we gave our members The Stock Play of a Lifetime!"
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Bialy, thanks for the post. It has been believed that this company was compensated for its support of CMKX, and it appaears they shot that rumor down quickly. I was glad to see that.
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quote:Originally posted by noahltl: Well, Wallace has all the pumpers shaking in their boots now. He's threatening to get 'really rough'. LOL He's also driving off all of the investors who come here for stock information. Hmmmmm. Maybe that's his intent. Hope we have a PR soon that brings an end to this nonsense, and allows us to move into some sensible discussion on this thread.
I think I'll go to bed. If Wallace is going to really get naughty, I'll pass. Hey Walla$$, chill out, man. Get that chip off of your shoulder. 1000 pumpers can't all be wrong...
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Read this part before you put too much faith in the Green Baron:
Please note that although our parent company has not been compensated in any way for the release of this information and does not expect to be compensated by CMKX in the future, our parent company Evergreen Marketing, Inc. and its employees currently own a substantial long position in shares of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKX).
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I have just recieved a letter from TD Waterhouse UK dated 6th August notifying me about the dividend payment....
"CMKM Diamonds has announced a stock dividend payment, whereby holders will recieve 0.0000155 new shares in US Canadian Minerals for each share held in CMKM Diamonds.
The payment of the new stock is due to be made on or around 24 September 2004, with the record date being proposed as 20 August 2004.
The stock will not be quoted ex for the dividend payment."
It goes onto say any more info they will contact me etc..
Then at the bottom there is a disclaimer in bold...
"Please note that the information contained in this notice is compiled from sources believed to be reliable but not guaranteed. If you are unsure what action to take, please contact your Financial Advisor."
Probably standard stuff.
I rang them asking if they could tell me where they got this information from, and the girl seemed confused why I would be questioning it. She told me that the company sent the information to them and they inturn forwarded it to the nominee holders. I'm not sure she knew this for fact, and besides this is the UK, and we are dealing with US stocks, which they do not specialise in. I left it at what she told me.
I am drawing my own conclusions that anyone expecting a PR stating the OS is lower than calcualted is deluding themselves.
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What's that about 155 shares per million or is it to earley in the morning for me to be doing math?
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quote:Originally posted by tic_toc: I have just recieved a letter from TD Waterhouse UK dated 6th August notifying me about the dividend payment....
"CMKM Diamonds has announced a stock dividend payment, whereby holders will recieve 0.0000155 new shares in US Canadian Minerals for each share held in CMKM Diamonds.
The payment of the new stock is due to be made on or around 24 September 2004, with the record date being proposed as 20 August 2004.
The stock will not be quoted ex for the dividend payment."
It goes onto say any more info they will contact me etc..
Then at the bottom there is a disclaimer in bold...
"Please note that the information contained in this notice is compiled from sources believed to be reliable but not guaranteed. If you are unsure what action to take, please contact your Financial Advisor."
Probably standard stuff.
I rang them asking if they could tell me where they got this information from, and the girl seemed confused why I would be questioning it. She told me that the company sent the information to them and they inturn forwarded it to the nominee holders. I'm not sure she knew this for fact, and besides this is the UK, and we are dealing with US stocks, which they do not specialise in. I left it at what she told me.
I am drawing my own conclusions that anyone expecting a PR stating the OS is lower than calcualted is deluding themselves.
GOOD analysis......don't forget to subtract the value of the dividend from the value of CMKX.........
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[QUOTE) _____________________________________________ Hi Glassman, Did you answer my questions to you from page 1? One was Did you think we didn't read the SEC filing on UCAD? Another was- Do you think it is unusual for a company to move into a shell in the pink sheet market?
As far as this post of yours. UCAD does have some sweetheart deals for cash in exchange for mineral rights. We (the sahreholders) will be getting shares in UCAD and other mining companies. The dividends almost equal the present cost of the stock. We have a great lawyer who is looking out for the shareholders interests. One way or another we will get the value that is in CMKX to the shareholders.
Do you understand this next paragraph? UCAD is coming TO THE SHAREHOLDERS-not to CMKX. So if CMKX gets some cash that is great and not at all unusual. Why wouldn't the company get cash when that is why companies sell stock in the first place. They certainly haven't been getting cash for the naked shorted shares the MM's have been spinning.
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Debi--I didn't add this to the previous posts cuz i thought it obvious, but i guess it wasn't to everybody.....UCAD is already more than half-owned by persons unknown (controlling interest etc.).....i would never guess at who owns it....but it has no track record...the PPS is being maintained at the 6$ because almost all of the shares are restricted and can't be traded. The real worrisome part in all this should be which 5% to possibly 15% of the mineral holdings are going to which companies...as for the naked shares short, i'll believe that when i see it.....you guys are still waiting on the totals..... the MM's are not EVIL... they are business people with a hell of alot more brains than i have seen in most of the posts on this board..i trust them a lot more than i do UC or his Lawyer....as far as doing ten hours of DD Debi.... i've been doing DD on this company for over a year.... you see i was here before when they "found diamonds" yep this isn't the first time that "they found diamonds".
As far as your cash question...HMMM it looks like they got a lotta cash floating around here..they can sponsor a racecar and they don't even have any mining revenues...wonder where that cash came from????????oh yeah maybe 300+ billion shares sold??????...one of these days McDonalds might just catch up with them...LOL
and i still would like to see where this lawyer is working for you, i mean he works for UC right? UC runs CMKX, i haven't seen one single case where he asked the stockholders for their opinion or a proxy.....
if you have any more questions for me i'll be happy to answer them. if i missed any let me know and i'll answer them to, you see glass is impervious to caustic substances......
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more on the EVIL -LOL- MM isssue..i watched a billion shares and more/day get posted in this stock at .0001----if I were an MM i would have bought ALL of those shares to sell you guys at .0004+ when the "BIG NEWS" came out??? why, cuz that's what MM's do (they probably got 'em for less too.....)
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Good job You have it right now! We are all accountable, and need to be an example! Thanks for all of your hard work! Posts: 622 | From: USA | Registered: Aug 2004
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Whatever the arguments are.. bottom line is.. UC is genius. He is either going to make many people rich (I wouldn't use the phrase million millionaires) or he is going to fool many people. We will know soon. GLTA
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They certainly haven't been getting cash for the naked shorted shares the MM's have been spinning.
Glassman -I am not seeing much value in the 'DD' you think you are bringing. Your amen corner consists of new posters who are suspect and a few that are not held in high esteem. If your goal is to chase away the stockholders who like this stock and have posted here for the last year -why bother? You may not succeed unless you plan on living your life on the CMKX board. And if you want it that bad we know other boards where we are more than welcome and this kind of baloney isn't.
Good Luck to all the longs in this stock. Trust the DD you have done and try to ignore the bashers. They are actually a good sign. Why all the energy to bash a .0004 stock? IMO-DD-Debi[/B]
Debi, if i have an AMEN corner here, you do too, and some of the posts here from YOUR CORNER are PORN....you guys should be happy i'm not a MOD cuz if i was, a lot of you would be banned from the board.
you have been here long enough to know how the game works Debi, i give most of these posters here the benefit of the doubt. but this has been a pump-fest if there ever was one. newbies come here and see that there's more posts here than anywhere else, then they read the posts you guys are copying from sterling and other total nuts. interesting technique... you didn't write them...somebody else did, but you post them when you should know that are total BS..... then you have a clean conscience..LOL cuz you didn't write them --you are just sharing this from another board ----i guess that leaves you enough wriggle room to sleep at night-- but i have to shave, and that means looking myself in the eye at the mirror...
quote:Originally posted by thinkmoney: wow glassman. you really dont like this stock. Are you our saviour?
Whats up with your bashing this board and stock. I have seen alot of posts from you and this bashing is uncharacteristic of you.
What are you so angry at?
angry,i'm not angry, i'm DISGUSTED because there's a MILLION$+ a day DISAPPEARING from the market---- i've seen this same stock show up and perform the same way over and over again.
and it's always the same-- people try to point out the LIES and get called basher's when in fact they are providing a community service. somebody even said, we'll get to the newbies before you do......i think if you look thru the list of so-called basher's you will find they are the same people willing to give solid advice to beginners....they are the one that constantly LOOK for the next POP and post it quick....then there are the ones that are CONSPICUOUSLY ABSENT----some REAL GOOD stock pickers avoid this like the plague don't they?????? i happen to believe in TRUTH...... it will set you free, and all i see here is a lot of junky behaviour..... just a couple days ago some of you were saying that there was no way that the share count was 400 billion, today the same people are like well, it don't really matter..... LIARS.... i don't post anywhere else, why, cuz i usually spend all my time DD'ing and ALLSTOCKS is the best, but the kind of behaviour exhibited in these threads is UNCONSCIONABLE..... i have the right to express my opinions so I DO..... and if i am wrong i ADMIT it...unlike this group of self groomers...
quote:Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me: Hi Glassman, I do have a question that keeps getting lost in your answers.
The shareholder of CMKX are getting 50% of UCAD directly. Plus the company is getting some cash. Why is this a bad thing?
Debi
Debi, it's not lost--it's there, you just refuse to see it...
and where did you get 50%---i don't think you'll find 50% of UCAD in your pockets... UCAD, by your own admission is a shell. that means it isn't worth ANYTHING.. except what it trades for-- sure it trades at 6$ TODAY, but you are getting restricted shares..you can't trade then till when??? till they issue another XXX billion shares like they did last time???? oh yeah that is yet to be confirmed.... HMMMMMM i guess TD Waterhouse is wrong too...LOL
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Glassman, I for one don't think the CMKX story is half finished yet. There are many here including me who will admit to being wrong on this one if we are. I won't know if I am until I see how this plays out over the next 14-60 days and possibly longer. So I think it is a little early to either apologize or gloat.
I am glad you are so confident in your decision. If the stock goes to .01 you can shave knowing you delivered some people from making a very good return in a tough market. If it goes to .10 be careful with the razor. If it tanks then that is great. But either way people need to take responsbility for their own investment decisions.
I don't know what the stock will do. I do know that the area that CMKX has the mineral rights in is hot. It is the place to be in Canada and Canada is the place to be for diamond and mineral exploration. Roger Glenn is a very good attorney. I have a lot of confidence that he is working to help CMKX which does help the stockholders.
As far as anyone elses behavior in my Amen corner goes. I won't be responsible for their behavior. I will be responsible with and for mine. I do think it is ironic a poster illegally assumed another allstocks member's identity and with that alias posted 'truths'. I couldn't pretend to not notice that and I won't. --------------------------------------------- Glassman wrote:
more on the EVIL -LOL- MM isssue..i watched a billion shares and more/day get posted in this stock at .0001----if I were an MM i would have bought ALL of those shares to sell you guys at .0004+ when the "BIG NEWS" came out??? why, cuz that's what MM's do (they probably got 'em for less too.....)
Some of these businessmen MM's are snakes in suits and are robbing the daylights out of investors in pennystocks. You can disagree with that if you like. I think it is patently obvious. This market is corrupt as the day is long. I would love to see it trade on supply and demand. I don't think it is. I do think some of what gets blamed on Naked shorting are the various companies diluting their own stock and flooding the market with it. I don't think that is the case with CMKX. If the company is selling I think they would be selling back the Naked short shares they purchased. Hopefully we will soon know.
I have other stocks to attend to. Have a good day. -IMO-DD-IMO-Debi
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Well, I guess no one wants to see this bit of news. @ .0000155, that would make the O/S right around that 500B mark. I didn't do the math, but I have once before , and the 400B was .000018 something. Why is this being ignored? It appears to be pretty important news. Is it that it is not an official PR, another MM deception? Come on folks this is terrible. Don't believe that goofy Dr D trying to convince you through Urban's generosity there are more shres and shareholders that can benefit now that we know there is 500B shres O/S.
quote:Originally posted by tic_toc: I have just recieved a letter from TD Waterhouse UK dated 6th August notifying me about the dividend payment....
"CMKM Diamonds has announced a stock dividend payment, whereby holders will recieve 0.0000155 new shares in US Canadian Minerals for each share held in CMKM Diamonds.
The payment of the new stock is due to be made on or around 24 September 2004, with the record date being proposed as 20 August 2004.
The stock will not be quoted ex for the dividend payment."
It goes onto say any more info they will contact me etc..
Then at the bottom there is a disclaimer in bold...
"Please note that the information contained in this notice is compiled from sources believed to be reliable but not guaranteed. If you are unsure what action to take, please contact your Financial Advisor."
Probably standard stuff.
I rang them asking if they could tell me where they got this information from, and the girl seemed confused why I would be questioning it. She told me that the company sent the information to them and they inturn forwarded it to the nominee holders. I'm not sure she knew this for fact, and besides this is the UK, and we are dealing with US stocks, which they do not specialise in. I left it at what she told me.
I am drawing my own conclusions that anyone expecting a PR stating the OS is lower than calcualted is deluding themselves.
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quote:Originally posted by noahltl: UC: Don't believe anything until you see the PR.
why believe the PR?---the MM's ARE the market...that's why we call them MARKET MAKERS---without them you don't have a market....LOL the numbers don't lie, and if you think you are going to somehow beat the MM's you are crazy....
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Guess it's not just our thread, the pettiness and fighting is going on everywhere:
neba Newbie « Thread started on: Today at 08:13am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please let me begin with the fact that I am in many ways still a newbie. Not necessarily to CMKX but to investing as a whole.
I know that the appeal of this company has created many new investors by the number of people I introduced to it alone and they introduced to it, And so on. (I am sure I am not the only one)
They do come to us with a clearly more fragile approach. Not only are they concerned for their money but they had little to no exposure to the BASHER/PUMPER mentality.
When they come here to find support and find us (or the others) talking trash and being verbally abusive to them and others they generally don’t understand it. I remember believing that these boards were set up for those who were in support of the investment. Good idea but.
These boards are often the fist exposure people have even prior to actually investing . So when newbies or visitors come here and find us abusing Melvin , each other or what ever they either leave with confidence by what we showed them or they just leave.
A newbie presents many possibilities for both CMKX and this board that I hope we give them the support they require.
(as with everything) JMO
Thank you
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quote:Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me: Glassman, I for one don't think the CMKX story is half finished yet. There are many here including me who will admit to being wrong on this one if we are. I won't know if I am until I see how this plays out over the next 14-60 days and possibly longer. So I think it is a little early to either apologize or gloat.
I am glad you are so confident in your decision. If the stock goes to .01 you can shave knowing you delivered some people from making a very good return in a tough market. If it goes to .10 be careful with the razor. If it tanks then that is great. But either way people need to take responsbility for their own investment decisions.
I don't know what the stock will do. I do know that the area that CMKX has the mineral rights in is hot. It is the place to be in Canada and Canada is the place to be for diamond and mineral exploration. Roger Glenn is a very good attorney. I have a lot of confidence that he is working to help CMKX which does help the stockholders.
As far as anyone elses behavior in my Amen corner goes. I won't be responsible for their behavior. I will be responsible with and for mine. I do think it is ironic a poster illegally assumed another allstocks member's identity and with that alias posted 'truths'. I couldn't pretend to not notice that and I won't.
then why did you feel the need to put them in my corner Debbi?????? just cuz somebody said they took his identity doesn't mean it's true.... as far as being careful with my razor Debbi...i appreciate your concern, but EVEN if it did go to .10, i would have NO PROBLEM with what i've said......i've also helped quite a few people find good picks and i've offered bad picks before, but i have never ever lied......people who sell pipe dreams are either pushers or liars....
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Glass Why don't you just confront with the person who you think lied? Tell him/her 'this is waht you posted on this date, you are saying the opposite today'.
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Yeah right, there's nothing anyone can do to the sacrosanct MM's:
lowescarpets Re: CMKX Pink quotes and volume « Reply #2 on: Today at 09:01am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Recently, leading market makers and brokers named in various lawsuits and other actions, including FleetBoston (NYSE: FBF), Goldman, Sachs & Co. (GS), H. Myerson & Co., Inc. (NASDAQ: MHMY), Olde / H&R Block (HRB), Charles Schwab (SCH), Toronto-Dominion's (TD), TD Waterhouse Group, Bank of America's (BAC) Banc of America Securities LLC, Societe Generale's (SCGLF) SG Cowen Securities Corp. vFinance, Inc. (VFIN), Knight Trading Group, Inc. (NITE), A.G. Edwards, Inc. (AGE), Ameritrade Holding Corp. (AMTD), Deutsche Bank AG (DB), and ETrade Group, Inc. (ET), were forced to comply with new short-selling market regulations imposed by the NASD after the SEC had "sat on" the NASD request to plug material loopholes for almost 2-1/2 years.
"The new rules expand the scope of the affirmative determination requirements to include orders received from broker/dealers that are not members of NASD ("non-member broker/dealers").
The rule itself, while welcomed by small companies and their shareholders in the U.S., nevertheless raised an outcry because the NASD's request to put it into effect had set on a shelf at the SEC since 2001.
The scandal has embroiled hundreds of companies and dozens of brokers and marketmakers, in a web of internaitional intrigue, manipulative short-selling and cross-border acctions and denials.
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Earlier in 2003, the SEC fined Rhino Advisors, Inc., $1 million for its representation of Amro International in the financing and manipulation of Sedona Corp. Amro, also known as AMRO, was registered in Panama, a secretive offshore haven, but was not named in the SEC settlement. Another 60 public companies may have been manipulated by the fined Rhino Advisors and its indicted principals, or its funding apparatus, Amro.
These include:
All American Food Group Inc (AAFGQ), Amanda Co Inc (AMNA), Antra Holdings (RECD), Aquis Communications Group Inc (OTCBB: AQUIS), Avanir Pharmaceuticals (AVN), Bionutrics Inc (BNRX), Brilliant Digital Entertainment Inc (AMEX: BDE), Bravo! Foods International Corp. (OTCBB: BRVOE), Butler National Corp (BUTL),Calypte Biomedical Corp (CYPT), Chemtrak Inc/DE (CMTR), Clicknsettle Com Inc (CLIK), Corporate Vision Inc (OTC: CVIA), Crown Laboratories Inc/DE (CLWB), Dental Medical Diagnostic Systems Inc (DMDS), Detour Media Group Inc (DTRM),
Also, Digital Privacy Inc/DE (OTC: DGPV), Senior Services Inc (DISS), International Inc (DYNX), Endovasc Ltd Inc (EVSC), Esynch Corp/CA (OTCBB: ESYN), Focus Enhancements Inc (NASDAQ: FSCE), Frederick Brewing Co (FRBW), Greystone Digital Technology Inc (GSTN), Havana Republic Inc/FL (HVNR), Henley Healthcare Inc (HENL), Hollywood Media Corp (HOLL), Ibiz Technology Corp (IBZT), Diagnostic Systems Inc/FL (IMDS), Imaging Technologies (OTCBB: IMTO), Integrated Surgical Systems Inc (RDOC),
Also, Interferon Sciences Inc (IFSC), Interiors Inc (OTC: ITRNA), Laminaire Corp (THMZ), Medisys Technologies Inc (SCEP), Milestone Scientific Inc/NJ (MS), Nevada Manhattan Group Inc (NVMH), Innovations Inc (OTCBB: NTGE),Systems Group (OSYM), Pacific Systems Control Technology Inc (PFSY), Professional Transportation Group Ltd Inc (TRUC), Rnethealth Inc (RNTT),
Also, Sand Technology Inc (SNDT), Sedona Corp (SDNA), Silverado Foods Inc (SVFO), Stockgroup Information Systems (SWEB) Surgilight Inc (SRGL), Tasty Fries Inc (TFRY), Tech Laboratories Inc (TCHL), Teltran International Group Ltd (TLTG), Titan Motorcycle Co of America Inc (TMOTQ), Trans Energy Inc (TSRG), Motorcycle Co (UMCC), Universal Communication Systems Inc (UCSY), Medical Systems Inc (UMSI), Vianet Technologies Inc (VNTK),Viragen Inc (VRA), Webcatalyst Inc (WBCL), Worldwide Wireless Networks Inc (WWWNQ), and ZAP (ZAPZ).
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Anybody know what the deal is with the CIM shares? Still 10/05 restriction? Do these spinoff shares get the dividend? Curious minds want to know Posts: 829 | From: people's republic of cambridge | Registered: Jun 2004
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quote:Originally posted by cool1sh: Glass Why don't you just confront with the person who you think lied? Tell him/her 'this is waht you posted on this date, you are saying the opposite today'.
why??? this thread is more of that than anything else.....Debi asked me specific questions, i answered them....i don't know why this phenomena exists exactly, somebody said it's like crack-----i agree, there's people who are trying to take the slipperiest most underhanded moves in the stock game and making them sound like SMART plays.... they are just what they smell like......only inexperienced players would think that setting up shells is a good thing... the SEC has been throwing around a lot of big fines lately. to people with BIG EXPENSIVE LAWYERS..LOL do those lawyers give the advice on how to pay LESS of a fine ????sure they do. anybody who thinks a lawyer that isn't on their retainer is working for them ......LOL
quote:Originally posted by will: Well, I guess no one wants to see this bit of news. @ .0000155, that would make the O/S right around that 500B mark.
Will, I don't think it was ignored. There was quite a debate when it first came out. It showed up on the OCT website as information required to be provided by UCAD prior to the dividend. It was picked up by the Pinksheets website. The debate centers around whether the information is accurate or somehow provided to OCT by some malicious third party. This is further aggrevated by CMKX niether confirming nor denying the information. This leads me to beleive that it is indeed accurate and CMKX just doesn't want to call attention to the issue that the O/S is much larger than everyone hoped. And there are still a number of people on this board in denial that the O/S is that big and want to cling to the 10 billion share range and trillions in naked shorts. It think they are afraid that the large O/S share position will ruin the credibility and potential of CMKX. Goodbye to dreams fo $1 per share anytime soon and hello to .03 per share, which becomes a more likely high end in the near term.
My thoughts are that the 483 billion or so O/S is most likely and that the OTC information is accurate. Billions of shares being traded daily, naked shorts aside, would represent a very high percentage of the stock trading hands each day. Not likely IMO. Also, CMKX always seems to have cash - for investment in other companies and for supporting racing teams. That money has to come from somewhere and I think it's from dumping stock over the last few months.
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.03 could possibly happen, heck, i hope it does, i am a capitalist, but i have CLOSELY watched a big float go up recently, QBID with an unknown quantity of shares went up close to that, it took a long, long time.....and they probabnly had about a tenth of of this float... i'm not a basher, i just like the truth. and i'm spending valuble time here, but it's not wasted, cuz there are stocks doubling every day, even in this slow market. and this one is taking away from them...... i don't understand why anybody would play a pink sheet on the honor system...pinks are chart plays, unless they have a reliable, proven track record OVER THE YEARS>>> not a few PR's from the last 6 months.....
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