Nobody wants to look for your posts - that's like looking for turds floating in a swimming pool!
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: JBCak,
Count up the posts by noahltl, WWJD, JBCak and Money_Penny over the last five days. Now count up mine. You will also find, much to your surprise, that I do not post every day.
Noahltl,
Thanks, but no thanks. You and others on this CMKX CULT thread need the prayers more than I...and THAT IS A FACT!
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Debi Posted: Glassman wrote : CMKX sold 5% of YOUR (the shareholders) mineral rights to them for SHARES--and they sold an option to buy an extra 10% of CMKX's mineral rights for cash.... if the real value of CMKX is the mineral rights, i am pointing out to you that they are being sold out of the company to another company that you may or may not get(dividend) shares in.... that's not important??????????? this is a lot more vauable than copying some of the outrageous statements that i've been reading.... i didn't see anybody else posting this information anywhere..... _____________________________________________ Hi Glassman, Did you answer my questions to you from page 1? One was Did you think we didn't read the SEC filing on UCAD? Another was- Do you think it is unusual for a company to move into a shell in the pink sheet market?
As far as this post of yours. UCAD does have some sweetheart deals for cash in exchange for mineral rights. We (the sahreholders) will be getting shares in UCAD and other mining companies. The dividends almost equal the present cost of the stock. We have a great lawyer who is looking out for the shareholders interests. One way or another we will get the value that is in CMKX to the shareholders.
Do you understand this next paragraph? UCAD is coming TO THE SHAREHOLDERS-not to CMKX. So if CMKX gets some cash that is great and not at all unusual. Why wouldn't the company get cash when that is why companies sell stock in the first place. They certainly haven't been getting cash for the naked shorted shares the MM's have been spinning.
--------------------------------------------- I just wanted to add that your amen corner included a criminal. Stealing anothers identity. I hope he gets prosecuted and not just by Noah. I hope Roger Glenn takes on some of the bashers who cross the line from opinion to fraud.
I am trying to be on my best behavior but when the person trying to protect us from being naive and scammed gets scammed and duped in front of our eyes it is hard to pretend not to notice. I am going to really turn in now.
I wish you the best but can't figure out what your problem is with this stock. The pumpers that are alluded to by you I haven't seen on this board. I see a lot of regular Allstocks posters who are enthusiastic about this stock. There is a difference. Most of us did our DD. We had our questions about the company and its integrity. We answered those to our satisfaction on about 200 pages on the various CMKX threads. Who are the pumpers? I think we can name the bashers. I still don't consider you a basher, I guess that is why I am curious about your sudden zeal for trying to shoot down this stock. Do you think you are so brilliant that with 10 hours or less of DD you will knock down any research we spent hundreds of hours considering? Some may be just buying an expensive lottery ticket but I have really done as much research as possible and some of it very creative. I am 100% satisfied with what I have discovered. I am confident enough that I recommended this to friends and family and together we own over 100 Million shares. So best to you and yours. I am really not trying to be rude. I know you said the other day you had been treated rudely on this thread. I saw some rudeness tonight and not by you. But the company you keep is a poor reflection on you. IMO-Debi
Wallace is a fruad and will be expoased in a matter of days...
His noose is getting tighter
Wallace MP is right, no one wants to look up any of your dumb , b i t c h a s s posts...
Go away you fool...
Are we not allowed to talk to one another? Many of us have been logging on here for many, many months, religously.... Sorry people around here don't care for you however I am sure you have been exposed to that all your life.
In fact I bet one share of Qbid and one of CMKX on it!!!!
Just remember an amateur should not be posting that ex-dividend dates and record dates are the same. Or, that pro-rata means 1 for 1. As I said, try to learn something first before pretending to be knowledgeable.
Tell me more about your quality/smart lawyer who apparently has so much integrity he wrote about, among other things, "Disclosing Non-Public Information". Tell me why UC and Melvin seem to have been doing just that to a limited few and why a quality, smart lawyer with integrity has not put a stop to it. Tell me why his law firm settled in a suit for not performing their fiduciary responsibilities. Tell me how many law firms you know that would not take the money and represent any firm if the amount of money is attractive enough.
Sleep well.
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quote:Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me: Glassman wrote : CMKX sold 5% of YOUR (the shareholders) mineral rights to them for SHARES--and they sold an option to buy an extra 10% of CMKX's mineral rights for cash.... if the real value of CMKX is the mineral rights, i am pointing out to you that they are being sold out of the company to another company that you may or may not get(dividend) shares in.... that's not important???????????
this is a lot more vauable than copying some of the outrageous statements that i've been reading.... i didn't see anybody else posting this information anywhere..... _____________________________________________ Hi Glassman, Did you answer my questions to you from page 1? One was Did you think we didn't read the SEC filing on UCAD? Another was- Do you think it is unusual for a company to move into a shell in the pink sheet market?
As far as this post of yours. UCAD does have some sweetheart deals for cash in exchange for mineral rights. We (the sahreholders) will be getting shares in UCAD and other mining companies. The dividends almost equal the present cost of the stock. We have a great lawyer who is looking out for the shareholders interests. One way or another we will get the value that is in CMKX to the shareholders.
Do you understand this next paragraph? UCAD is coming TO THE SHAREHOLDERS-not to CMKX. So if CMKX gets some cash that is great and not at all unusual. Why wouldn't the company get cash when that is why companies sell stock in the first place. They certainly haven't been getting cash for the naked shorted shares the MM's have been spinning.
Glassman -I am not seeing much value in the 'DD' you think you are bringing. Your amen corner consists of new posters who are suspect and a few that are not held in high esteem. If your goal is to chase away the stockholders who like this stock and have posted here for the last year -why bother? You may not succeed unless you plan on living your life on the CMKX board. And if you want it that bad we know other boards where we are more than welcome and this kind of baloney isn't.
Good Luck to all the longs in this stock. Trust the DD you have done and try to ignore the bashers. They are actually a good sign. Why all the energy to bash a .0004 stock? IMO-DD-Debi
gee Debbi--you think thats bashing???? that's a bad sign..... yes i have seeen this type of thing before, and it never came out good for the shareholders, i DID assume that you hadn't seen it, cuz you are still promoting this thing..... the logic here is that UC and the Lawyer wear white hats right?????????
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wallace#1: [B]JBCak,
Count up the posts by noahltl, WWJD, JBCak and Money_Penny over the last five days. Now count up mine. You will also find, much to your surprise, that I do not post every day.
You really don't have to count. There is a link on each person's post to check profile, the numbers are there.
Wallace1 - 551 posts
Noahltl - 562 posts
Guess I really am a pumper, and Wallace is an infrequent poster. Owe you 11 posts buddy.
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I must get some sleep but the film keeps rolling.
Gee, Glass, you must really be a bad sort with the company you keep. LMAO! Wonder if I missed out on an "honorable mention".
Others on this board would rather keep company with the likes of noahltl (aka James), JBCak (funny,vulgar guy with the "women,sex,stocks,drugs" thread), Money_Penny (JBCak's shadow), Truth Teller, WorkAHolic, Trading Wizard (who also thinks JBCak is funny) and all the other CMKX CULT members. Then, they all try to tell others they are not PUMPERS? Just look at the name on this thread again...just like the last two, and by an amateur PUMPER. ------------------------------ Oh gosh, so close in posts to noahltl! Difference is that most, if not all, his posts are on the CMKX CULT threads. What does that tell you about a PUMPER? The same thing with certain other people on the CMKX CULT thread.
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I have been reading this board since april. I don't post just read. Thhis is my first stock buy ever. From the info posted here I feel I've made a sound choice and after reading all these months I have noticed a cycle of bashers and wanted to say I think you guys noah, wwjd thur me, and others are doing a fine job.
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quote:Originally posted by sherry: I have been reading this board since april. I don't post just read. Thhis is my first stock buy ever. From the info posted here I feel I've made a sound choice and after reading all these months I have noticed a cycle of bashers and wanted to say I think you guys noah, wwjd thur me, and others are doing a fine job.
Thanks Sherry, it's been a rough day here, and I appreciate that. Thanks again.
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: I must get some sleep but the film keeps rolling.
Gee, Glass, you must really be a bad sort with the company you keep. LMAO! Wonder if I missed out on an "honorable mention".
Others on this board would rather keep company with the likes of noahltl (aka James), JBCak (funny,vulgar guy with the "women,sex,stocks,drugs" thread), Money_Penny (JBCak's shadow), Truth Teller, WorkAHolic, Trading Wizard (who also thinks JBCak is funny) and all the other CMKX CULT members. Then, they all try to tell others they are not PUMPERS? Just look at the name on this thread again...just like the last two, and by an amateur PUMPER.
Do I need to do anymore searching. This guy/girl just keeps getting deeper and deeper into him/herself. I'll bet he's sleeping alone tonight.
I'm going to bed, sweet dreams all. See you in Las Vegas.
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diamondogg11 *THE NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT CMKX* « Thread started on: Today at 12:05am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: If you are a hedge fund illegaly manipulating CMKX, or an otherwise illegal naked shorter, or a market maker who aids in any illegal market behaviors relating to CMKX then what you are about to read will NOT make you happy.
There is a new way to look at our CMKX investment. The company is giving it's shareholders a strong hint(s) that our success will NOT be completely tied to the pps.
We have all heard the recent theories about the dividends being a long term strategy for investors of CMKX to hold their shares..and this is NOT just for a short term gain by forcing the shorts to cover..
This may or may not be a bi product of the strategy..but in life there are things we can control and things we cannot control..whether or not the "shorts" decide to cover in a certain time period is THEIR choice..
The tide has shifted IMO..because a growing number of shareholders are understanding that this investment in CMKX is not only about the short covering..the investment can now be seen in TWO parts..
1. The liability of the shorts to buy back their shares.
2. The value of CMKX through it's potential land claims, partnerships, dividends etc.
This is how I CLEARLY see my investment at this point:
I have value in my cmkx shares measured by BOTH pps and dividends..the value IMO is unfolding before our eyes and with the information I have gathered through personal dd I feel very strongly that this value will increase in the months and years ahead of us..
I separate the pps part of the equation from my short term expectations of the stock..because Roger Glenn is handling that part..
The pps might take TIME because whoever has been manipulating the pps has different options.
a) There could be a full cover
b) There could be litigation
c) There could be an out of court settlement
d) An outside government entity could get involved
e) A combination of any of these (or other possiblities)
The point is..I FOR ONE DON'T CARE WHEN THE THIEVES DECIDE TO STOP MANIPULATING THE PPS ANY LONGER!!!!!!!...(and no, Diamondogg has not finally gone insane by staring 24/7 at the computer LOL)
IMO, we as shareholders will be getting value for our investment BESIDES the increase in the pps.
I will let the pps play itself out in it's own good time..and if it takes 6 months or a year for me to get a check in the mail (after some deal is struck or settlement is made)..then so be it..
BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THE PPS WILL BE THE MAIN DRIVER OF MY WEALTH ANY LONGER..
It may still play a significant role..but there is enough going on WITHOUT THE PPS..to keep me invested at this point.
What this means for the people who are "stuck" shorting this stock..time is definitely on our side..the heels of the longs will just get deeper and deeper into their respective positions..and in a way, I believe shareholders will be happier in the long run because more shareholders will realize the true gains a huge diamond mine can bring.
I still believe we have some incredible things ready to be announced very shortly..
but as I said at the end of my other post..longs would be wise to see the great news in light of the long term success of the company..
If the pps does not respond in the short term...I for one will still be smiling..because I know what I own..and it won't just be reflected in the pps of cmkx..
There will be justice IMO when it comes to the pps..
But the ones who have done illegal activity will need to worry about WHEN the hammer will fall..NOT me.
So relax, and know that you have ownership in company(ies) that will be part of perhaps the most exciting mineral exploration in our lifetimes..no matter what the pps does..
And believe me..SOME PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THIS BELIEF TO SINK IN..THEY WANT INVESTORS TO THINK SHORT TERM..THEY WANT INVESTORS TO STARE AT THE PPS EVERY DAY..THEY WANT INVESTORS TO WONDER WHY THE STOCK PRICE IS NOT MOVING..THEY WANT INVESTORS TO GET THEIR HOPES A MILE HIGH AND THEN BE DISSAPOINTED..
but if we realize that our investment is no longer tied to the short term pps..THESE PEOPLE LOSE. Period.
Gee, you and JBCak are neck and neck to reaching the lofty pinnacle of your ambitions. Remember, I mentioned it before...knowledge of a pissoir.
And that from a guy that provided the clues for someone to find out his name. And that from a guy that says the ex-date is the record date. And that from a guy who says pro-rata means 1 to 1. And that from an admitted amateur who gives newbies investment advice. WOW!!! Now that IS impressive. So much credibility.
And that from an amateur that is so original all he can do is post others' posts -- and may even be inserting bits of his own opinions in those posts without others knowing he had done that.
Good Night.
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Thanks for answering Debi. It seemed reasonable enough that UCAD may use a shell company.
quote:Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me: [BI think you hit the nail on the head and it is a fairly common way to do things. The post that listed all the shells that CMKX has available to use probably terrifies the MM's. Dividend after Dividend will make this a real terror to stay short on. This is going to leave them gobsmacked. Or maybe we'll be gobsmacked by the amount of money in our accounts. GLTY and GLTA-DD-IMO-Debi[/B]
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What an insane thread. I guess something is boiling up. Had a strange dream about a stock last night. It went up 15000%, thing is I don't think it was cmkx and I cant remember the name of it. If it comes to me I'll let you all know
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It seem Wallace is picking up where "JamesDBrewer" left off. It would't surprise me if both were one and the same. Hey, you could always send an email to the mods and have them check out his IP address?!
quote:Originally posted by will: glassman email me at .com, please.
I won't leave my email up long, and please don't copy it in a reply, thanks.
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will--sorry i missed your post last night...went to bed... look-- i'm not a basher and i'm not "jumping into the fray" down here... i did my DD on CMKX and i really don't need to do any more......i was off-line for quite awhile and just got back on-line recently... i am interested to see how this plays out , so i'll just watch quietly...
Good Morning Everyone-This is 94 pages of Press Releases. It has much of the answers to some of the questions many people have. This is where you can get the information for yourself without interpretation. GLTA-DD-IMO-Debi
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Glassman wrote: gee Debbi--you think thats bashing???? --------------------------------------------- Debi had written at 23:55 in a paragraph addressing Glassman: I still don't consider you a basher, I guess that is why I am curious about your sudden zeal for trying to shoot down this stock. --------------------------------------------- Glassman you mentioned that there are lots of ways to strip value from a company. You are right. Any of the stripping of value that CMKX is doing is being given to the shareholders. We are getting the UCAD shares as dividends directly. How this is supposed to be a bad thing is beyond me. The company will get cash to fund their business plan which benefits the shareholders too since that is why companies sell stock in the first place. Most of the longer term investors here understand what is going on and rather than being alarmed they are buying more stock since the company is demonstrating that it is doing what it has said it will do.
The 94 pages of press releases that tic toc has posted has some very good information for anyone looking to see what kind of plan appears to be coming together. GLTA-DD-IMO-Debi
Citigroup to Acquire Derivative Markets Business of Knight Trading Group
NEW YORK & JERSEY CITY, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 9, 2004--Citigroup (NYSE: C):
-- Leading Provider of Options Execution to Become Part of Equities Division Of Citigroup's Global Corporate and Investment Banking Group
-- Citigroup Executes on Plans to Grow its Derivatives Business
Citigroup (NYSE: C) and Knight Trading Group (NASDAQ: NITE) today announced that they have entered into a definitive agreement under which Citigroup, Inc. will acquire the assets and operations that comprise the Derivatives Markets business of Knight Trading Group. The purchase price was $225 million in cash. The transaction is expected to close in the fourth quarter of 2004 and is subject to customary closing conditions, including antitrust and regulatory approvals.
Acquiring Knight's Derivatives Markets business provides Citigroup with electronic and floor-based market making capabilities in listed equity and fixed income options. Knight is a leading provider of options execution in the industry and is a specialist in approximately 500 options classes, covering nearly three-fourths of all equity option order flow on most U.S. options exchanges.
"The acquisition of Knight's options business is consistent with our efforts to expand our derivatives market making capabilities, as evidenced by our recent appointment as an electronic specialist (E-DPM) on the Chicago Board of Options Exchange," said James Forese, Managing Director and head of Global Equities at Citigroup. "This transaction will add significant scale to our U.S. equities business and provide Citigroup with top-tier order-routing and market making capabilities in our growing derivatives business."
Thomas M. Joyce, Chief Executive Officer and President of Knight Trading Group, said, "Knight made significant improvements to its options business since it was acquired in 2000, adapting to the dynamic options market by increasing efficiencies and introducing new products." Mr. Joyce continued, "Knight is now a significant market maker in the U.S. with profitable operations, a strong brand and industry-leading technology and trading expertise. Ultimately, the hard work of Knight's employees transformed our options business into the attractive asset for Citigroup that it is today."
About Knight Trading Group
Knight is focused on meeting the needs of institutional and broker-dealer clients by providing comprehensive trade execution services in equities and derivatives. A leading execution specialist, Knight offers capital commitment and access to a deep pool of liquidity across the depth and breadth of the equity market. Knight also operates an asset management business for institutions and high net worth individuals. To be a valued partner, Knight strives to provide superior client service and will continue to tailor its offering to meet the needs of its clients. More information about Knight can be obtained at http://www.Knighttradinggroup.com.
About Citigroup
Our Global Corporate & Investment Banking Group is a leading force in the world's capital markets and consists of three business lines: Global Banking, Capital Markets, and Transaction Services. We provide more industry-leading solutions to more clients in more countries than any of our competitors. No other company serving the capital markets offers Citigroup's geographic reach, local presence, product scope, expertise, and high standards.
Citigroup (NYSE: C), the preeminent global financial services company has some 200 million customer accounts and does business in more than 100 countries, providing consumers, corporations, governments and institutions with a broad range of financial products and services, including consumer banking and credit, corporate and investment banking, insurance, securities brokerage, and asset management. Major brand names under Citigroup's trademark red umbrella include CitiFinancial, Primerica, Smith Barney, Banamex and Travelers Life and Annuity. Additional information may be found at www.citigroup.com
Certain statements in this document are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. Actual results may differ materially from those included in these statements due to a variety of factors. More information about these factors is contained in Citigroup's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Contacts
Citigroup Press: Duncan King, 212-816-4723 or Investors: Sheri Ptashek, 212-559-2718 or Fixed Income Investors John Randel, 212-559-2447 or Knight Trading Group Press & Investors: Margaret Wyrwas, 201-557-6954
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Good morning all. This should be a good week. Meetings, hopefully PR with OS and core results. I hope everyone is prepared for a large OS number. I have always thought that it is very large. The estimates of 400 - 500 billion are probably true, although I would love to see a number somewhat less. The results of the samples are critical. Without diamonds we have very little.
"Diamonds in glacial drift are the most direct indicators of a bedrock source of diamond. However, diamonds are rare even in the highest-grade diamond-bearing rocks, and one carat (0.2 g) of diamond per tonne of ore is considered a very high-grade diamond deposit. Certain other mantle-derived minerals with a specific range of chemical compositions, including garnet, diopside, and chromite are found in diamond-bearing rock, but are typically thousands of times more abundant than the diamonds themselves. These indicator minerals are then an indirect, but more efficient tool for locating bedrock sources of diamond"
It's all very interesting read. Keep the faith. Las Vegas sounds so nice.
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Interesting post Noah. Makes me wonder why they would be selling after the cover dates of CMKX. This will be fun to watch unfold over the next few weeks and months. -IMO-Debi
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however I am sure you have been exposed to that all your life.
