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Yeah, sort of like that.
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
DW, i know what is coming next week, and next month, MORE DILUTION....

all the PR in the world, can't change that...
you guys got fed a big line of paid pumpers crap saying that the OS don't count and dilution don't count,

only inexperienced investors believe this...


so NOAH say that i am lying...you know i'm not...


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Whats wrong noah? That the best you can do, some canned crap you found somewhere. More original thinking from you.
Do you really believe your ilk will believe I am a paid basher? I think will see me as a guy you pissed off, and is demanding you apologize or leave.
I freely admit I am being obnoxious, but you deserve every word of it.

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glassman, who says dilution is always bad? Don't you think it might depend on how the added funds are used? If issuing more shares enables the purchace of more claims...who knows. Perhaps it will work.
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I see that noahltl is doing more original reposting...all of which is dumb as hell.


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dwman,

You are out of your league. Go back to your sandbox.
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Glass,

About the UCAD deal with that investment firm. Did I read that wrong? The way I read that is that they got UCAD shs at $1.80 per sh when the mkt price was $5.05. Yes? No?


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Not my intent, dw. I hope for the same thing you're hoping for "next" week. Which, by the way, most people here have been hoping for the last two weeks.
My problem is noah right now. I want to drum him out of here. I want him to aopologize or leave. He has had no qualms about telling people to leave. He has had no problem with being personal. So, why should it be that someone that bashes him should be a paid basher, and be resorting to the tricks of the trades he posts from a canned source?

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Could it be that all of the frantic bashing going on on the weekend, is an attempt to shake our faith in cmkx and get us to sell because they know what is coming next week?


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methinks wallace and glassman are one and the same. Not enough bashers to shake us so the bashers use two names. kinda like dilution.
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notice that glass signed wallace's last post. lol
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could it be we have him rattled, noah?
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dw, "methinks" would imply that you are well-read......
if you really were you would know better..

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quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
could it be we have him rattled, noah?

They started that way DW


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well, glass, I don't like bragging but I am well read. I have read at least 25 comic books. By the way, some of these posts are rather comical.
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You know pal, I gave you a way out. I softened my position, and look how you replied.

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Look, I only ask you to consider these missing parts. I only ask you to give a fair and balanced presentation of this company in your posting. I say, to set glassman and Wallace up as targets of negativity so that you can reply with only positve or those windbag over the top theories is wrong. Present both sides. Post the freaking positives, I know there are some, but don't disregard and completely discount the negatives by attacking people that try to include them in anyone decsison making. Jesus, you fault glassman and Wallace for polorizing this thread, I suggest you look at yourselves.
Tell people , yes, the fact that O/S is unknown and maybe astronomical is concern, tell them the samples not be reported on for months is concern. Damn, man, admit to these things. You can tell them you have faith these things will be overcome, that you have Roger Glenn, you have acres and acres of claims. But for god's sake dont attack people that are trying to present what most reasonable people would see as concerns and issues to be addressed.
Do you think I don't want this POC stock to fly? I just don't like the way these clowns that are running it go about their business, and I surely don't like posters being onesdied and discounting anything that someone with a different point view by making the issue personal as opposed to fact based.
Insulting people because they have an opposing point of view. That's real debate, isn't it. That's really getting to the truth here. Ya'll act so rightious. If you were truly rightious you'd at least let have others have their opinions, without being insulting.

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Originally posted by noahltl:

Will do you have any answers to the waiting other that BUY SELL HOLD. What? Storm the offices of E&A in force. Grab a pick and shovel and go dig for ourselves in Sask? Kidnap UC and hold him for PR ransom?
Give me the answer please?

You Could have stopped it all right there. Now I have no choice but to get your mind right, boy.


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glass, I think you are a pretty good guy. I like you better as glassman instead of wallace.
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noahltl likes to repost everywhere so I might as well do the same:

noahltl is also the one who started the "basher handbook" crap. I found that site. It said nothing about a "handbook". He made that up out of thin air! Also, he conveniently left out a whole section referring to dissent which was specified as not being bashing. He lacks credibility! Now he's posting more reposts. You have lost it noahltl...right from the beginning.
And you have the b*lls to say you were attacked first? Outright lie!! He is good at whining when confronted. Will said he will let up on you when and if you apologize. I will not!


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Once again, thanks for the opportunity to repost;


http://messageboardfools.com/bashers.htm


A BASHER HANDBOOK:
Do not underestimate a Bashers influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their "hand-book". Learn from it or you will be donating your hard earned money to them!

Rules for Successful Bashing:

1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a
support base before initiating your Bashing routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock. Build softly.
8. Identify your foes (Longs) and the boards "guru" Use them to
your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only Bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the
rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "Basher". Newbies won't
know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run. Not to tank the
company or create a plunge in the stock; be subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company or the stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to
reinforce facts.
19. DO NOT LIE, NAME CALL or USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that is inaccurate in how they report their findings.
21. Discourage people from believing Press Releases.
Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.
23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or the PR, temporary
mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your concerns, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs.
27. Bait the Longs into personal debates putting their
focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts.
28. Promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to
instead of the one your Bashing.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules.


Grade 'A' Basher:
If you post lots of old news, respond to all positive posts with a negative side. Never respond to being called a Basher, never post on another board with same alias. Can spend up to 80 hours a week Bashing a stock.
Grade 'B' Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about 60 hours a week.

Grade 'C' Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when Bashers rules say not to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.

Grade 'D' Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negative statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a week.

Grade 'F' Basher:
A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.

LEARN ABOUT HOW BASHERS WORK: For instance: did you know that some Bashers are paid?
Golden Rule:
IGNORE THEM ...learn how professional Bashers are paid: When you REPLY to Bashers you give them an opportunity to earn appox. 5-7 dollars. The service agreement they enter into with their employer states their messages will be monitored for content, profanity, lies, etc. but Overseers and the like don't have the time to check all their Bashers messages. Only occasional spot checks are done. Those who manage the Basher will generally read the headlines to see if a Basher is replying to other posters by name. That tells them the Basher isn't just "posting blindly" or repeating the same message over and over since they won't pay for those.(True to form a Basher will put the bite on anyone, even their unscrupulous employer). A Basher will attempt to milk three to five replies per post at one to two dollars each. This way the Basher spreads negative influence to as many stockholders as possible. A Basher will create this discussion thread because it takes less time reading more messages than is necessary. This ultimately allows the Basher more time to post and make money. In general, NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER. Make them read all the posts and think up ways to enter the discussion. NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE BASHER,S AID! If you feel compelled to challenge a Basher do so without mentioning his/her true alias in your response. This will make it hard for the Basher to use your post as a revenue stream. Read the news, do your own homework and make your own decisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a couple of weeks. Due Diligence is key here. Know that there will be a time when the stock runs up which will be followed followed by the Bashers and those that missed the boat. The Bashers will trash the stock by saying such things as "it's a Pump and Dump" and "the company is lying" and deceiving. There goal is to scare off newbies and potential new investors by "shaking" you out of your shares. Take the time to confirm your DD ,trust your own judgement and believe in yourself, pick your point of return or loss and live with it. Don't listen to hype or Bashers trust your own judgement. Live by the rules you have created .

HOW TO IDENTIFY A BASHER
1. Check the "Born on Date" Bashers create identities on a regular basis. Rarely do you find a Basher with older "Created On" date. So click on the Identity icon for more details.
2. Take the time to look at the Basher's history of Posts. Go to other boards and see if their is a pattern to the theme of the posts. Bashers rarely waste time trying to blend in with "positive" posts, unless they are cultivating a new uninformed assistant.
3. When did the Basher show up. Bashers rarely show up when activity is in at a Lull. They show up when activity up/down..
4. Bashers never answer direct questions except with another question.
5. Bashers do work in teams (sometimes themselves as a team). So be suspicious of someone showing up and automatically having a Shadow to converse with who supports their argument.
6. Bashers always select "an argument" that can never be resolved by research.

The Basher 'Pack' Mentality
Bashers love to work in packs. It provides the quintessential cover to achieve supposedly "independent" validation of an argument. It is neither independent nor validating.

Pack Structure: Basher Packs can be comprised of any number of Bashers. They can be purposely formed within an organization or they can be "ad hoc" formed during a conclave on a particular board. In fact a pack mentality can be achieved by an ambitious "party of one" with a few select aliases.

Once a pack is formed, a leader emerges. This leader is usually acknowledged by other Bashers because of 1. Knowledge of the stock. or 2. Recognition by current board Longs (high visibility). Once established the Leader will usually work the Pack members up in to a posting frenzy. Constantly changing themes and even occasionally biting the ear of another pack member (this earns instant credibility), and it doesn't offend the bitten Basher because he/she knows it is all part of the effect. Quite sophisticated.
Packs will disband and slink away without notice. Usually this is the call of the Pack Leader who is adept at recognizing overplay. More often than not, Pack members must move on because they have other Bashing commitments to fulfill. They will return to the site of a good hunt over and over again, until hamstringing is achieved.

What calls a pack together. The Cry of the Leader. Certain Bashers love to work together. They know each others bite, how to feign in and out, it is a well choreographed Bash when pack members have worked together before. They constantly check their "Sites Du Jour" for signs of Pack activity. Occasionally they will throw out a "Nibbler" Bash to see if the pack responds or if not they can work the site themselves. It's all about effectiveness, time and earning money.
< BEWARE OF THE PACK >


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What a pathetic defense, noah. You don't have the sense to know when you're on the ropes getting pummeled. throw in the towel, pal, your whipped.
You're punchdrunk and repeating the same things over and over, not naking sense.
Give it up. Maybe someone will act as your manager, Dr D, Zen, Sterling, and throw the towel in for you.

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New Sheriff in town. Barney Fife.
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Here is a link
http://tinypic.com/1zrtj

to a pic that I took in 2002 in the Ft.a La Corne area. I couldn't get the resident squirrel to stick around long enough to pose for a pic tho...lol...One less anomaly for those hard working drill crews to have to test I suppose.
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"These hundreds of anomalies have been filtered for elimination of farm equipment and steel buildings as a probable cause for such an impressive count of anomalies."
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After following the twists and turns of this stock for the last few years, I have to give up and reclaim my life away from the chat boards.lol. One thing I've found interesting about following the stock on this and other boards, is the low number of posters from the area around FALC.... A past PR stated that drilling through the ice at Green Lake was halted due to the swift underwater currents that would damage the drill stem,etc. Anyone ever phone up there and check the validity of that statement?

Godd luck to all


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Not quite, pal. Matter of fact, I'm here to take your one bullet away from you before you shoot yourself in the foot again, barney boy.

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New Sheriff in town. Barney Fife.


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LOL.. Will, that could be Saturday's post of the day. I like that. I just wish it had not been directed at noah.
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NOAH that basher's handbook guide comes straight out of week 2 in the PAID PUMPERS guide...LOL
you are piece of work....

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
NOAH that basher's handbook guide comes straight out of week 2 in the PAID PUMPERS guide...LOL
you are piece of work....


Thanks glass, I'll take that as a compliment.


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glass, that was funny. Your wit is starting to make you downright human.
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Roayls wrote: This is for Debi(wwjdthrume).I know this is none of my business but it would help put some validity in your posts for ME. You say you purchase stock in cmkx almost every day. Correct? Do you not have to pay fees then each time to your broker? I would think that would eat up alot of money or is it really cheap. Do you also get paid from your job every day? Why not by in one lump sum. Thank you in advance.
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Hi Royals, When I am buying more that 1 or 2 million shares I use Etrade and that is 9.95. When I pick up anything lees I usually use Freetrade which costs me under a dollar per buy. You get 20 Free trades a month with them and the others are priced $1-3. With the amount of trading I do I pay $1.00 for my other trades. I try to make money trading every day. Some days I succeed and some days I don't. I did good this week and bought some CMKX to hold onto until it eventually runs. I have a short, medium and long term position in CMKX. I am accumulating shares to sell to cover the cost of my medium and long term position. As long as the price is down I will be buying.

I understand some of the concerns people have but I also believe we are sitting on a huge field of diamondiferous kimberlite. I am basing that on the finds of our immediate neighbors claims and finds.

The concerns I have are totally unrelated to UCAD or any of the dividend companies and various shells. I will leave that up to Roger to negotiate. To me it comes down to how much would a large diamond find in Fort ala Corne be worth? The neighboring pipes have diamonds and Shore Gold picked up a 19 carat diamond recently and plenty of large carat macro diamonds. I think if we have a large diamondiferous kimberlite with gem quality macro diamonds then $40 Billion dollars is reasonable. That doesn't take into consideration any percentage deals we owe or any other minerals or partnerships that may add to our bottom line. IF 500 Billion AS are out the value of the diamond price would be .08. Granted this number has many things it doesn't include both good and bad, but $40 Billion is a lowball estimate for one good diamond find (especially if it is the new larger 'Oreo'-named because looking at a map DeBeers is the size of a dime and this pipe is the size of an Oreo). We have 1.4 million acres of mineral rights in this incredible area.

OK-it is presently valued at $200 Million Dollars. Put your thinking cap on and pretend you are UC. You can buy back shares that you think (or know) are worth .08- ? for .0004. Would you put out PR's and announce a lower number of shares than people think? Would you announce your best news? Try to get the price up and get the price running? Or would you not announce the share count, let the critics critique and retire shares while still trying to move the company forward and finance everything?

I don't know what is going on and I don't think anyone who does is saying anything publicly. When the company announces the share count and any news and returns to filing then we will know what is up. I consider this a pretty good bargain at .0004. That is my opinion and this is some of the thinking that helped form it.

GLTA-IMO-Debi


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From binkys last post,
"A past PR stated that drilling through the ice at Green Lake was halted due to the swift underwater currents that would damage the drill stem,etc."
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I looked at the geography of green lake.To me it looks like it should be called Green river.It's long and narrow,A river runs into and out of it.
I have read lake bottoms are most of the best places to start your mine.
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Also would like to pass on the UCAD website.I like it,very user friendly. http://www.uscanadianminerals.com/photo.asp?G=31#31

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By the way, noah, where is the results of important work "we" had to do? I'm still waiting. All I saw was some bullcrap smiley face cartoon.
Eat this rude post, apologize , and I will let you have your little badge and cap pistols back.

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Will, we've tolerated your sarcasm all day, but right now we have important things to do.



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good post Debi....
i agree with you there is a LOT of potential here...
i have expressed my concerns about management, and i have said, if i see some signs of improvement in management, i will i will consider investing a FILING comapny here....
please help me to get the BS off the ALLSTOCKS site so we can have a decent forum for everybody.....
i don't think Wallace should be so upset, but i also see why he is.....
i will try with wallace....
if you will try with Noah.....

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These are valid questions for all shareholders!

How is CMKX going to fund all of the drilling?

WHERE WILL THEY GET THE HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY NEEDED?

HOW MUCH DEBT DO THEY HAVE?

ONE drill team is not suffient to make enough money and drill enough holes! Then when and IF they find diamonds it will be a HUGE expense to bring them to market.

IF THE Authorized shares are 500 billion and over 400 billion are out they cannot fund a huge operation by dumping shares can they!!

The only other choice would be a REVERSE SPLIT and then dump shares!!

IF THEIR DEBT IS SO HIGH THEY MAY CONSIDER BANKRUPTCY!

[This message has been edited by osubucks30 (edited August 21, 2004).]


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Binky,
I remember that p/r. That one was issued in late May if I remember right, I checked the temperature in that area and it was around 70, then I found a fishing lodge located on Green Lake and called them to inquire about a possible fishing trip and when they expected their season to open. They said that they had been open and renting boats out for at least two weeks. I'm going from memory here but I did post my findings if you really wanted to dig it up.

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On a serious note.. this stock will never hit a penny with the O/S being estimated where it is, there would have to be an R/S or an outrageous amount of diamonds found.

If there were an outrageous amount of diamonds found the price would not be this low.. this is still a lottery ticket, and an expensive one at that. Think I will stick with the Texas Lotto!!

Good luck.


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Hey, noahltl, where are your three deputy dogs?
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quote:
Originally posted by osubucks30:
These are valid questiona for all shareholders!

How is CMKX going to fund all of the drilling?

WHERE WILL THEY GET THE HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY NEEDED?

HOW MUCH DEBT DO THEY HAVE?

ONE drill team is not suffient to make enough money and drill enough holes! Then when and IF they find diamonds it will be a HUGE expense to bring them to market.

IF THE Authorized shares are 500 billion and over 400 billion are out they cannot fund a huge operation by dumping shares can they!!

The only other choice would be a REVERSE SPLIT and then dump shares!!

IF THEIR DEBT IS SO HIGH THEY MAY CONSIDER BANKRUPTCY!



Well UCAD looks to me as a help to your questions http://www.uscanadianminerals.com/projects.asp


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quote:
Originally posted by will:
By the way, noah, where is the results of important work "we" had to do? I'm still waiting. All I saw was some bullcrap smiley face cartoon.
Eat this rude post, apologize , and I will let you have your little badge and cap pistols back.


OK will, I owe you one more response.
You came on the board yesterday with a question. You repeated it over and over, and it was only answerable by the coming PR's. Debi answered it along those lines and I concurred. But you kept on asking the same question over and over. When the closing gyrations were going on, you were still asking it. Those who have serious money invested in this stock, would definitely be interested in what those gyrations meant, and would look for answers.
When I found what I thought was the answer to what was going on, I posted it. MM manipulation called "painting the tape". I dind't need you "screaming" in my ear about how nobody was answering your "unanswerable" questions. You were a constant disruption yesterday, and you continue to disrupt both threads with your childish vidictiveness, just like you disrupted the threads yesterday. I could care less what you think of me or other posters here, we are supposed to be here discussing the stock. It's a stock board, not your personal playground. Grow up and get a life.


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UCAD is a new mining company plus they burn cash quick. Look at their last 10Q! h ttp://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename%3D0001019687%252D04%252D001152%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2004%255C05%255C21%255C&symbol=UCAD

OVER a $3 MILLION LOSS IN THREE MONTHS!!

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