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So, Debi, are you saying you wouldn't join any club that would have you as a member? Somebody famous said that, I just don't remember who it was.
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Canuck Diamon Wiz Acronyms « Thread started on: Today at 11:01am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the advice of diamondogg11 I am going to start an Acronym thread to build a list of commonly used acronyms for the newbies and post in the "Hall Of Fame". If you reply here I will add it to my post and delete your post so don't panic if you notice it is gone.
I will alphabetize them later. Please post (or PM) them in the format below.
Here is what we have so far,
IR - Investor Relations Melvin - CMKX IR person. Sterling - Beloved Story Teller T/A - Transfer Agent TA - Transfer Agent UC - Urban Casavant IMO - In My Opinion IMHO - In My Humble Opinion JMO - Just My Opinion AFAIAC - As far as I am concerned WTF - What the (heck) RG - Roger Glenn NS - Naked Short NSS - Naked Short Share ROTFLMAO - Rolling on the floor laughing my (buttox) off LOL - Laughing out Loud LMAO - Laughing my (butt) off BS - Bull(crap) UM - Uncle Melvin TIA - Thanks in Advance KTF - Keep the faith A/S - Authorized Shares O/S - Outstanding Shares GLTA - Good Luck To All MM - Market Maker CIM - Casavant International Mining EOM - End of message JTF - Just the facts
Sorta puts my measily 3.5 million, well 3.75 million into context. ============================================= WWJD,
About the church being perfect,lol, very well said!hahah...lol...
How does this guy go about getting one billion shares?!?!?!? I remember willy use to bash Qbid,I don't know if he still does. But wow, 1 billion shares!!!Insane!
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quote:Originally posted by byrdturd: Wow, Willy and his one billion shares...
Sorta puts my measily 3.5 million, well 3.75 million into context. ============================================= WWJD,
About the church being perfect,lol, very well said!hahah...lol...
How does this guy go about getting one billion shares?!?!?!? I remember willy use to bash Qbid,I don't know if he still does. But wow, 1 billion shares!!!Insane!
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quote:Originally posted by noahltl: Investwdd Is all the volume real or massive MM Manipulation « Thread started on: Today at 10:42am »
NOAH, i don't know how you came by that dataset... i have datasets that show the values just where they should be MILION$+, and they come from a VERY reliable source..... the current tally is 1,043,975,532 shares and $410,956 $ this is a typical day... so once again i say that the truth is hard to find on this board.... by the way, VERY few of those trades are on the bid, so the MM's are still selling alot more than they are buying, but that doesn;t mean they are naked shorting..... and no i can't post a link, cuz it comes thru on an APPLET(one of two that i am running simultaneously)--it's a very expensive subscription site-- microcaptrade
quote:Originally posted by byrdturd: Trading Wizardress
Depends upon what you are thinking, hun
-The Byrd Man of Alcatraz-
I am thinking about the only person that calls me Trading Wizardress lol and someone who at some point had 3.5 millions shares as me. Welcome back, I worried about your last post, was going to give you a light poke in a butt, but I guess was too late. Well I am glad you are back.
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Glassman, I didn't do the numbers, but yours were done at 1 billion plus. The posted numbers were done at 2 bil plus and it is currently over 3 billion.
If you have a problem with it, you can go argue over at the CMKX unofficial board, they're claiming to be using the same source as you.
quote:Originally posted by noahltl: Glassman, I didn't do the numbers, but yours were done at 1 billion plus. The posted numbers were done at 2 bil plus and it is currently over 3 billion.
If you have a problem with it, you can go argue over at the CMKX unofficial board, they're claiming to be using the same source as you.
i don't have a problem with it, somebody asked me to point out the lies. re-posting others posts allows you to have some of that wriggle room don't it...... the point is that i have just learned what i came here to learn.... thank you---
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I post from other sources and allow investors here to make up their own minds on the validity of the post. I don't need any "wriggle room". I respect them enough to believe they are totally capable of deciding for themselves if it is valid or not.
As I stated, at the site I picked it up on, another poster used the same sources as you to verify the numbers.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I apologise to those that have read this information before BUT it is the first time someone has actually posted the evidence for fake volumes as opposed to simply stating that high volumes occur! It is plane and simple that these volumes are evidently fake from the figures below.
Can someone tell me have you seen such a large discrepence in any other stock because to me it looks stupidly obvious....how can they get away with this? Surely it can't be normal for other stocks can it. I can't beleive that they would fake such a large volume infront of everyone so blatently....i mean literally have the highes traded volume in the market and it only takes a little snooping to find this inconsistency....take a look!!
THANKS Investwdd FOR FINDING THIS BRILLIANT WORK!:
It appears a large percentage of the shares are NOT being bought or sold, just transferred back and forth between the MM's.
I posted this observation last week, but very few people seemed to have comments. Given the huge disparity below, I think this is an important area of investigation so I will try it again in the hope someone with more knowledge of MM behavior can fill us in.
What I am documenting below is based upon this mornings time and sales info from L2 (approx 7:40 AM PST). I have tracked this pattern for over a week, and if anything it is more out of synch now then ever. Here is what I am observing on L2 Current share volume 2,134,127,387 Current $ volume = $69,541 Current # of transactions = 59
If you do the math, you can see the problem First, share volume divided by $ volume = .000033 per share (One too many zero’s here) Second, the $ volume does not match up. If you multiply the volume X bid price (low average) you get a $ volume of $640,238. As you can see above, the reported dollar volume is only 69,541.
My only conclusion is that the volume is not real. For some reason the MM’s are just transferring among themselves at no spread and with no exchange of monies. If true, why would they do it, and is it legal…..all comments welcome
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where's the dollar volume coming from? Anyone know where this kind of info is published. Logged
Re: CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF FAKE VOLUME!!!! « Reply #2 on: Today at 12:15pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spaz, I obtained the $ volume from my subscription to MicrocapTrade which is at OTCCHARTS.COM. It is a service dedicated to trading penny's. I also have it from my Schwab CyberTrader, so it is verified in two places.
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quote:Originally posted by noahltl: I post from other sources and allow investors here to make up their own minds on the validity of the post. I don't need any "wriggle room". I respect them enough to believe they are totally capable of deciding for themselves if it is valid or not.
As I stated, at the site I picked it up on, another poster used the same sources as you to verify the numbers.
well, i usually use the source of my dataset as part of my reliabiltiy quotient. you are posting quotes, and i was curious where they came from that's all....this "unofficaial site"-- is it posssible to post a link?????
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Noah -the numbers on microcaptrades seem to be off today for at least CMKX and they have seemed strange the last few days. Anyone else use them? The Top 400 is showing a negative number for CMKX and that never used to happen. --------------------------------------------- Gator Man- I like that quote about not wanting to join any club that would have me. I actually do belong to the church. Contrary to popular opinion it isn't a museum for saints. It's a hospital for sinners. I feel right at home there. --------------------------------------------- GLTA-IMO-DD-Debi
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Here is the pink sheet data from the last 15 minutes but dollar volumne isn't given...also the trading volume is much lower than what Ameritrade Steamer shows...
GXXL -- Global Explorations Inc. Com ($0.0001) Primary Venue: Pink Sheets
Best Bid: 0.0036 (5000 shares) Best Ask: 0.0039 (5000 shares) *
Date/Time of Last Inside Change: 14:44 * Quoted on the Pink Sheets
Want real-time level two quotes in this security? TRADE DATA Last Sale: 0.0039 Change: -0.0002
Ameritrade Real time quote... Extended Quote (Real-Time)
Global Explor New (GXXL)
Bid Ask Last 0.0039 Open 0.0041 Close 0.0041 Change -0.0002 High 0.0041 Low 0.0036 % Change -4.88 Volume 3550768 Last Size 105000 B/A Size Last Trade Tue Aug 10 2004 15:12:36 Asset Type Equity P/E 52 Wk. High 52 Wk. Low Quote Type Real-Time Exchange OTC
Those investment companies are very small by normal standards. In addition, 2 mil + 1 mil-, + 40K or even a full million is very insignificant. I think you might be saying the same thing as well as indicating that one of those firms dumped CMKX shares. Correct me if I am wrong.
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yahoo has reset its volume. if there is a shuffling of shares between the MM's then it will not be noticed on the scale that is happening simply because the system is incapable of logging that amount of volume in one day. I reckon we are pushing 4.5 billion a day. before the last run it was h£ll of a lot busier. non stop in fact. easily could pushed 10 billion. but the system would show what? 2-3 billion. nothing ever adds up with this stock does it.
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