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What will be the point of having PAVP stocks after they change name and have a new company?

Will they even be doing anything?


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Nighttrader. Your PAVP shares will just change symbols in your account. This is when the new ticker symbol is announced. You wont have a different number of shares. You will just have 10,000 ABCD shares instead of 10,000 PAVP shares. Then on april 9th you will receive shares of the spin off company.
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I never got mine either Hippo.

quote:
Originally posted by The Hippo:
pics of st hubert? Remember that press release that told us to email them for info about the project? Well, I DID email them and never received any info... How about you guys?!


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Judibabes: It was really a sofware company back then and didn't have present ownership/mngt. Doubt we'd ever get NEAR 5% of that gorgeous figure!

Good Luck

quote:
Originally posted by judibabes:
5 years ago, PAVP reached $3.50, WOW.


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Hey guys I hate to bring this up but,the dividend shares will be distributed to shareholders of record as of April 9th. They have NOT stated the date that they will actually distribute the shares.That could be months away. Someone that has time might want to call and find out what the time frame is for distribution of the dividend.

This company has consistantly been vague and/or mistated in many of their PRs. Makes me wonder if it's accidental. Also wonder who it is that keeps selling on the news. Are they themselves flooding the market with shares at the time there will be buyers? MMs can't be blamed for everything when there are other things that smell funny.
I still own 279,000 shares and have not sold any ...yet.

dz


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Nighttrader. Your PAVP shares will just change symbols in your account. This is when the new ticker symbol is announced. You wont have a different number of shares. You will just have 10,000 ABCD shares instead of 10,000 PAVP shares. Then on april 9th you will receive shares of the spin off company.


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quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Hey guys I hate to bring this up but,the dividend shares will be distributed to shareholders of record as of April 9th. They have NOT stated the date that they will actually distribute the shares.That could be months away. Someone that has time might want to call and find out what the time frame is for distribution of the dividend.

This company has consistantly been vague and/or mistated in many of their PRs. Makes me wonder if it's accidental. Also wonder who it is that keeps selling on the news. Are they themselves flooding the market with shares at the time there will be buyers? MMs can't be blamed for everything when there are other things that smell funny.
I still own 279,000 shares and have not sold any ...yet.

dz



good point dz... at first I was pretty happy with PAVP... Now I'm a bit curious. DD time!


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PEOPLE!!
CSJJ is now at 75 cents!!!!
salemm.

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I show only 100 shares traded, is that accurate?

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Is it common for the expected date of a symbol change to come and go with no word from the company about why it didn't occur? Newbie question, sorry.
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Yeah... not sure what 100 shares means... the float is EXTRMELY small?? or... someone insisted on buying way above the ask? Or absolutely nobody wanted to sell under .75??
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Hopefully CSJJ stays that high until we get our share dividend.....our shares are only worth what CSJJ is worth. If it falls back down, so does our dividend value. I'm anxious to hear more about the name/symbol change so the MM's have to stop shorting. I'd like to see this stock in the .02 range with a week or two.
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guys, I hate to be a party pooper, but I DOUBT we will get shares at that price. I THINK (strictly opinion) that with such a low float and a rising price, CSJJ may see a forward split before we get our shares. Realistically, at 0.75, 1 share of csjj is worth MORE THAN 100 shares of PAVP. I doubt the company is going to essentially double our holdings!
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NEWS NEWS NEWS!

News for 'PAVP' - (ProActive Computer Services, Inc. Names Taylor Capitol,
Inc. as their Primary Investor Relations Group)


HOUSTON, Mar 24, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ProActive Computer Services Inc.
(PAVP:Pink Sheets) is pleased to announce Taylor Capitol, Inc. as their
primary
investor relations group. Taylor Capitol, Inc. has a wide network of
connections
in the investment community. This network ranges from Retail Brokers, Fund
Managers, Market Makers, Market Awareness companies, Investment Banks and
Senior
Level Management Consultants. Stephen Taylor, President of Taylor Capitol,
Inc.
has a background of working for UBS PaineWebber where he provided Equity
Research and experience as an Investment Banker in which capacity he
handled
numerous Mergers and Acquisitions.

Taylor Capitol, Inc. President, Stephen Taylor states: "Based on initial
discussions with ProActive Computer Services CEO, Andrea Cortellazzi, PAVP
appears to be a true, emerging growth company. I have spoken with a
majority of
the senior management and have become very interested in all aspects of
the
company, especially the fingerprint technology. We have several
initiatives
planned for PAVP in the near future and look forward to working with Mr.
Cortellazzi and his management in taking his Company to the next level."

For further information please contact Investor Relations at 973-351-3868.

Forward-Looking Statements

Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data,
constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties
that
could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or
implied by
such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties
include,
among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased
competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by
the
company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and
fluctuations in
its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors
that
could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained
by
contacting the company by phone at 973-351-3868. Please also be advised
that the
company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and
Exchange
Commission.

SOURCE: ProActive Computer Services Inc.

CONTACT: Taylor Capitol, Inc.

Stephen Taylor, 973-351-3868

STEPHTAYL9@AOL.COM

www.IPOmovers.com


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Just called the new IR... Spoke to Stephen.
He was speaking with another investor... will call me back soon.
I want to ask him if management intends to dillute, forward split or whatever, the new shell CSJJ.
If you have questions you want me to ask... post them here... SOON... before he calls me back, ok?
Hurry! I'll ask him every question you have.
salemm.

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I want to know about the new symbol, etc...
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When is the dad blame name change? lol.
And when he knows this stock will hit $1.00. hehe just kidding.
B

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Another carrot, at the end of yet another stick. All I want to hear from these clowns is news on the their symbol change that didn't happen as expected. That's the only thing that matters today, and they're releasing more fluff instead. This is starting to feel like a shell game. The MM's make it hard enough on us, but we shouldn't feel like we're playing a shell game with the company management too. Just my opinion, I'm still holding strong and waiting for news about the shares we actually own. Not shares we hope will be gifts to us, or more PR fluff. Hope I'm not overreacting. Lotsa coffee this morning.
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Hey... seriously... I expected more questions... Nobody's got anything to ask??
Still waiting for call.
salemm.

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Ask when the airport news will be released as well as the name change info
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When will the shares be distributed by PAVP?


dz

quote:
Originally posted by salemm:
Just called the new IR... Spoke to Stephen.
He was speaking with another investor... will call me back soon.
I want to ask him if management intends to dillute, forward split or whatever, the new shell CSJJ.
If you have questions you want me to ask... post them here... SOON... before he calls me back, ok?
Hurry! I'll ask him every question you have.
salemm.


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whats their openion on why pavp is still down and the shell pulling the price up with it?
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So far I've got:

- Is PAVP seeking name change and listing on OTCBB exchange? When will the change occur exactly? Will trading be halted temporarily?

- Is CSJJ seeking listing on OTCBB also? When is it anticipated?

- Is the buyback program still on? Has it started yet? When will it start?

- Seeing that CSJJ is at 750% of yesterday's price and worth 100 times more than PAVP, does management plan to dillute, forward split or any other maneuver that would lower the value of the current pps of CSJJ?

- When will CSJJ shares be distributed in PAVP shareholders' hands, EXACTLY? (meaning when can we trade them?)

- Is there something current PAVP shareholders must do or say to their brokerage firms to alert them that they are entitled to CSJJ shares?

- When will there be news on the St-Hubert Airport development?


Anything else??
salemm.


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Ok, added.
salemm.
quote:
Originally posted by onthemark:
whats their openion on why pavp is still down and the shell pulling the price up with it?


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Thanks for doing this Salemm. That's really cool of you. You da man.
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Yep thanks , Salemm.


dz

quote:
Originally posted by Bialystock:
Thanks for doing this Salemm. That's really cool of you. You da man.


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Another meaningless PR, DOWN almost another 10% - like clockwork. Guess we need to sell as soon as a PR comes out and buy back 1/2 hour later!

By the way - I don't think those spin off shares of CSJJ will be issued for ages - as in: months and months.

I believe Ibiz did the same thing last Nov -and no one had received their shares yet...

I believe all April 9th means is you have to be a shareholder ON THAT DATE to be eligible to receive the free shares at a LATER date. I doubt I'll be here.

[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited March 24, 2004).]


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quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Another meaningless PR, DOWN almost another 10% - like clockwork. Guess we need to sell as soon as a PR comes out and buy back 1/2 hour later!

By the way - I don't think those spin off shares of CSJJ will be issued for ages - as in: months and months.

I believe Ibiz did the same thing last Nov -and no one had received their shares yet...

I believe all April 9th means is you have to be a shareholder ON THAT DATE to be eligible to receive the free shares at a LATER date. I doubt I'll be here.

[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited March 24, 2004).]


The price didn't drop after the PR...I agree that it's frustrating, but I'm still in long term...I don't see any reason to sell right now. The MMs are plaiyng with us


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Ok... just spoke with Stephen Taylor.
I asked him the following questions:

- Is PAVP seeking name change and listing on OTCBB exchange? When will the change occur exactly? Will trading be halted temporarily?

- Is CSJJ seeking listing on OTCBB also? When is it anticipated?

- Is the buyback program still on? Has it started yet? When will it start?

- Seeing that CSJJ is at 750% of yesterday's price and worth 100 times more than PAVP, does management plan to dillute, forward split or any other maneuver that would lower the value of the current pps of CSJJ?

- When will CSJJ shares be distributed in PAVP shareholders' hands, EXACTLY? (meaning when can we trade them?)

- Is there something current PAVP shareholders must do or say to their brokerage firms to alert them that they are entitled to CSJJ shares?

- When will there be news on the St-Hubert Airport development?

- In your opinion, why is PAVP still experiencing a declining pps despite positive news and a surging shell company pps?

Unfortunately... as could be expected, he did not have the answers (well, he just started, right?).
But, I dictated them word for word to him and he wrote them down.
He will get answers straight from the horse's mouth, and call or email me back.
When I mentioned the amount of money ($100,000) waiting to be invested in PAVP depending on answers to these questions (and especially because price of PAVP is great now!), he assured me he'd get answers VERY soon... and of course, offered to send me many other 'winning' companies he's dealing with right now, that I might want to consider investing in.
In any case, when I receive email or phone conversation, I will post everything IN IT'S ENTIRETY on this page.
Until then, stay tuned... and let's hope all answers are what we WANTED to hear!
salemm.


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ask if the company is a scam! come STRAIGHT OUT and ask that. Wait for his reaction. Then, after he makes his excuse, ask, "Why does PPS keep dropping with each POSTIVE PR?" Dont lead him on about MM games or anything. I am curious to see how he reacts. Inform him that we expected a PR about a name change and didn't get it. Ask WHY?, not "When will the name change occur?" PAVP is a corporation, and we are a part of it. We must hold them accountable to a certain extent. Dont be mean, but be forward! I would CERTAINLY do it, but I am at work and dont have the liberty =(
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.006 isn't "dropped"? I'm afraid to look at L2 today.

Wish we all sold yesterday and bought Paris Hilton!!! - WNMI Was up 300% yesterday from .003 to .012 and today has hit .0165 so far!

Why can't this pig do that? At the rate this thing is going we'll see .003 before .012 again....... Where's the Airport info they've been promising?


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Shooooooot!!
I spoke with him already Hippo! But I should have thought of that 'way' of asking him.
I did ask him the last question 'in your opinion why is pps declining on repeated good news and surging shell company pps'
He stated there most certainly was naked shorting because of high volume. But he will ask that question to management also.
Sorry I missed 'ya.
salemm.
By the way... he's very personable... told me his experience in bringing in IPOs and in fact, will forward some of them to me that he thinks are very promising.
In any case... I'll post everything here.

Hey... do you think I should post answers at RB too... just to quiet down the ZOO over there?? I've been mulling that over. Tell me what you think, all.
salemm.

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ask if the company is a scam! come STRAIGHT OUT and ask that. Wait for his reaction. Then, after he makes his excuse, ask, "Why does PPS keep dropping with each POSTIVE PR?" Dont lead him on about MM games or anything. I am curious to see how he reacts. Inform him that we expected a PR about a name change and didn't get it. Ask WHY?, not "When will the name change occur?" PAVP is a corporation, and we are a part of it. We must hold them accountable to a certain extent. Dont be mean, but be forward! I would CERTAINLY do it, but I am at work and dont have the liberty =(


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Unbelievable! fell throught the .006 support on good news. I have NO idea what to expect from PAVP anymore.
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I may call this guy myself. This is in the f'n .005's now. What a POS paper mill.

IF it went up 100% -it would even get MANY of us near even........ I just can't wait to get out....WOuld be nice to get out even or better - and I'm NOT gonna sell before symbol change and hopefully Airport news.

Good luck to us all.......


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Fortunately, I did not risk much, and I got in at .0075 . I said I would buy more at .005, and average down, but man, this thing is looking like a rat hole. Someone talk me into or out of it . LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
I may call this guy myself. This is in the f'n .005's now. What a POS paper mill.

IF it went up 100% -it would even get MANY of us near even........ I just can't wait to get out....WOuld be nice to get out even or better - and I'm NOT gonna sell before symbol change and hopefully Airport news.

Good luck to us all.......



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I hope we havent been crutching on Naked shorting this whole time while there is a real problem with the company!salemm.... post the contact info of the guy you spoke to, Id like to get at him for a few mins if i can make time today! i want you guys to realize, Im only in a few hundred dollars, so its not big deal to me. Im just sick of the games being played here, and honestly, Im upset for you guys. A lot of you have serious money invested, and you deserve answers!
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