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Let's start slowly....

I haven't posted much here....so, easy to search my past posts....remember my "theory" post? humor me for a second....what if it were true? hmmmmm.....

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what if "which" part were true?

sorry, so far...that's not very interesting.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
Let's start slowly....

I haven't posted much here....so, easy to search my past posts....remember my "theory" post? humor me for a second....what if it were true? hmmmmm.....

Now that's funny, you ask for hard proof and then come up with a theory and instead of backing it with any facts you ask Tex and the rest of us to suppose that it's true.

As far as facts on this play, OK. SEC took the powers that be to court, still pending the judges final decree but so far I haven't seen any answer from the company, since they don't have a lawyer and the answers that Rufus has written for himself have not gotten very far with the judge.

Stock is still trading on the GREY SHEETS, company has done nothing to improve that.

Last I looked, the company was broke and no longer was carrying through with the business plan that they PR'd.

Rufus was on the run, had lost his lease on the ranch along with his horses and was posting on various sites that he controlled but kept moving. Have no idea if he's still doing that.

Had talked of Proxy that never came to be, had talked of a new company where shareholders would be able to exchange their shares, that never happened.

Had a good friend, Paul Potter, disavow him, when he attempt to tell people that a public company Potter had bought was the exit for shareholders.

In other words, not one think he has stated has come to pass. So why in the world would anyone here play along with the whole what if it's true game? As far as humor, I guess you won't find much here when it comes to this subject. Most have moved on. Me, I check in now and again just for the heck of it.

I'm being civil, just want to know what your angle is?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
Let's start slowly....

I haven't posted much here....so, easy to search my past posts....remember my "theory" post? humor me for a second....what if it were true? hmmmmm.....

Rufus, is that you? Theories and humor me, sure has a familiar ring to it.
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ya, we're moving too fast, IM64...


Tell me some background, fill me in--what's your nick at da hub?

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quote:
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Originally posted by Ironman64:
Let's start slowly....

I haven't posted much here....so, easy to search my past posts....remember my "theory" post? humor me for a second....what if it were true? hmmmmm.....

Rufus, is that you? Theories and humor me, sure has a familiar ring to it.
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I think your on to something Wally...

Kill shorty......Ahem.

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"head honcho"

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Why would Rufus show up here? Hes got his own boards, and if that doesn't work I'm sure he'd try to go on HSM.
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The whole blueprint has been laid out for everyone, yet few have paid enough attention to put all the pieces together.

I am not here to attack, rather to incite logical thinking.

Why, may I ask, would Harris return to a seemingly worthless company in late 2006 if there weren't more to it than meets the eye?

I am merely saying, think outside the damn box. Now, here is the post I was referring to that no one cared to re-read -- "Would it excite anyone here if, hypothetically, a member of the FBI/CIA/SS, etc....made a comment to a shareholder that we should just be patient and let this play out with CSHD?"

The ones here and other message boards that proclaim they have this figured out by merely saying this was a P&D scam are gonna run for the hills when this is over with. For those that ask for proof, give me a break, there is none at this point in black and white. It is there if you are a critical thinker, but few exist. Those that aren't will dismiss all of this and rather choose to attack the message. Fine with me, but stand up and take YOUR LUMPS when you are found the fools.

Think outside the box my friends, entertain the possibilities, and don't dismiss cuz you just can't fathom it. Happy Memorials Day all.

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lol...

first, this:

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But, honestly, would like to see what proof you and the the others on IHUB have...I mean hard proof.
...implying you seek a rational, critical dialogue.


Now, you so soon devolve to this?

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For those that ask for proof, give me a break, there is none at this point in black and white.
As far as thinking outside the box, we watched a bunch of folks do that by believing in the $15 pps reset and the 6-for-1 divvy-not divvy.

The "blueprint," indeed is there: run it, then let it implode...then persuade shareholders not to sue.

I asked you about your background and other nicks, yet you ignore that and continue in the same mysterious vein that everyone involved is sick of...

Your hypothetical question *has* been answered; the answer is no, it's not exciting: sounds just exactly like more of the same ol' same ol' ...

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I do not care to give out personal information on my identity. That is not required in this discussion. So, move on and get over it.

I don't believe you buy into your own answers. The blueprint is there, you just don't understand it. As for the theory, oh, I just can stop laughing at your response. Wonder how you would feel if you received such a response from a member of one of those agencies.

You sir, are not a critical thinker.

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By the way, have you ever wondered why not ONE single shareholder has sued this company at any point?

Lawsuits, whether frivilous or not, occur every day in this country. It has been said that Waatle shareholders approved the merger with Fronthaul. Wouldn't you think that just one of these individuals would initiate a lawsuit, with the loss of wealth after this merger....unless they know and trust what is currently happening?

C'mon...critical thinking my friends.

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quote:
I do not care to give out personal information on my identity. That is not required in this discussion.
lol, who asked about personal information?

Remember when you wanted to start a "civil discussion"?

Your tone here is not too civil:

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So, move on and get over it.
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You sir, are not a critical thinker.
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Now, here I have no idea what you mean:

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Wonder how you would feel if you received such a response from a member of one of those agencies.
As far as this goes ...

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By the way, have you ever wondered why not ONE single shareholder has sued this company at any point?
well, my response ties into what you mention...But, sure, I believe a lawsuit is the shareholders' only real chance to get a look at the full story and maybe the only way to achieve disgorgement. However, 1) lawsuits are expensive, so any one or two individuals are not likely to mount a lawsuit on their own, and 2)Harris has succeeded in keeping a segment of shareholders at least somewhat mollified--and of those, I'm not aware of many who display critical thinking skills.

To get any traction, you simply must argue better--so far, all you're doing is rehash of Pope's and changing the markets and crushing evil shorty, etc...

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Hehehehe...

Exactly what I expected from you.

Far from a rehash. Remember this, and remember it well...when this is completed....the court case was but a minor speedbump in the overall successful completion of this journey. You think you have it all figured out, but the one thing you may try to explain, but can't, is why in the hell is the court case still lingering, uncompleted. There is a reason, sir....and therein will lie all the answers everyone needs to know to put this to rest. Once it is completed, everyone will say....WOW!!!

Lastly, read slowly this time...how would you feel if it were YOU that had the connections to communicate with a colleague within the CIA/FBI/SS and you were told to be patient and let this thing run its course. Further, what if you were told that "all is fine" from someone in one of these agencies that would know? Understand now? Resist the temptation to muddy the water and simply answer the question tex.

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. . .but the one thing you may try to explain, but can't, is why in the hell is the court case still lingering, uncompleted.
all I know is the SEC and feds are notoriously slow, unless something requires prompt attention. Put it this way: what do Cassavant, Pino, and Olsen have in common? Did you notice *yet another delay* in the OSC hearing re: SLUJ?

Or are you saying all these players are together in this momentous "WOW!!!" ?

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Further, what if you were told that "all is fine" from someone in one of these agencies that would know? Understand now?
No, I don't... I mean, I do have some of those connections, but nobody's told me anything.

So in your hypothetical situation, what role would I be in to get this "all is fine" answer?

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Critical thinking consists of mental processes of discernment, analysis and evaluation. It includes possible processes of reflecting upon a tangible or intangible item in order to form a solid judgment that reconciles scientific evidence with common sense. In contemporary usage "critical" has a certain negative connotation that does not apply in the present case. Though the term "analytical thinking" may seem to convey the idea more accurately, critical thinking clearly involves synthesis, evaluation, and reconstruction of thinking, in addition to analysis.

Critical thinkers gather information from all senses, verbal and/or written expressions, reflection, observation, experience and reasoning. Critical thinking has its basis in intellectual criteria that go beyond subject-matter divisions and which include: clarity, credibility, accuracy, precision, relevance, depth, breadth, logic, significance and fairness.

Those that disagree with your theories because they are absent of facts are indeed applying Critical thinking. In fact what you are asking is that people here use a different type of thinking generally used in movie making, the Suspension of Disbelief.

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Tex -- Your last question in your previous post....(So in your hypothetical situation, what role would I be in to get this "all is fine" answer?) -- What do you think? Who do you think? Someone connected / involved? At liberty only to say this....good question and very warm.... [Smile]

Wally -- LMAOROFL -- you are exactly what that post refers to.... I honestly can't wait to see the reactions of ones like you as you fall on the floor twitching....unable to process. Hehehehe.

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Go Spurs.....stop the bleeding tonight.

Final score -- Spurs 91, Lakers 88 (prediction only)

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Tex -- Your last question in your previous post....(So in your hypothetical situation, what role would I be in to get this "all is fine" answer?) -- What do you think? Who do you think? Someone connected / involved? At liberty only to say this....good question and very warm....
you're playing games, dude...

look, you initiated the "discussion," and I'm discussing--but I can't "enter" your hypothetical world with all these guessing games. To answer the question, I have to know from what perspective...

gotta tell you, though, this is getting boring...

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quote:
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Tex -- Your last question in your previous post....(So in your hypothetical situation, what role would I be in to get this "all is fine" answer?) -- What do you think? Who do you think? Someone connected / involved? At liberty only to say this....good question and very warm.... [Smile]

Wally -- LMAOROFL -- you are exactly what that post refers to.... I honestly can't wait to see the reactions of ones like you as you fall on the floor twitching....unable to process. Hehehehe.

Rufus, you have been saying that since before the SEC shut you down. Nothing has changed.

Instead of playing these games that you love so much, how about answering some questions like:

What happened to the proxy and everything else you promised? Not one came to fruition. What effect does that have on critical thinking?
[BadOne] [Wall Bang] [More Crap]

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Wally -- I enjoy your comedy, really, but you and I both know this is not Harris. Regarding proxy and other strategic pieces of information, have you ever once thought that those statements were intended for other eyes and ears?

Tex -- I will put you out of your own misery, since you are bored. And just as things were getting interesting. Just earmark our recent conversations until a later date, when you will marvel at the content here.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
Wally -- I enjoy your comedy, really, but you and I both know this is not Harris. Regarding proxy and other strategic pieces of information, have you ever once thought that those statements were intended for other eyes and ears?

Tex -- I will put you out of your own misery, since you are bored. And just as things were getting interesting. Just earmark our recent conversations until a later date, when you will marvel at the content here.

So what if we earmark it and nothing happens to marvel over?

BTW, it can't be Harris. This guy has a semblance of grammar, spelling, and punctuation in his posts.

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Igor -- there is zero doubt in my mind....zero.
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Maybe he finally learned how to use spell check.
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Tex -- being located in Ft. Worth, have you ever spoken with any of the major Texas players involved with CSHD?
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So, is there anything you can shed light on that lets you have this zero doubt?
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buzz off...you want everything your way, whoever you are.

If you want to engage me again...bring an A-game instead of kids' games.

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I'll take that as a yes. Figured as much.
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Interesting city you come from Ironman, because that's exactly where your unclear line of reasoning originated from.

I read through all your cryptic nonsense and couldn't come up with 1 concrete fact or speculative statement. If you just came out and said, "Pigs canfly." I could at least respect you for the clarity of your conviction. but as it stand you have said nothing over dozens of posts and insulted 2 of the most respected posters here. nice job.

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quote:
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Wally -- I enjoy your comedy, really, but you and I both know this is not Harris. Regarding proxy and other strategic pieces of information, have you ever once thought that those statements were intended for other eyes and ears?

Tex -- I will put you out of your own misery, since you are bored. And just as things were getting interesting. Just earmark our recent conversations until a later date, when you will marvel at the content here.

Interesting that you post, "This is not Harris", instead of the more appropriate, I'm not Harris.

Also interesting that you intimate that claims were made as a smoke screen when they also used similar wording of mark this post. So is this just another in a long line of smoke screens?

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ackchully, you guys, that lil episode was kinda...

creepy

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Very Creepy.
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Disturbia......


Great movie.

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Ironman64... I have written off the $107,000 lost by my family.....

Still hold the shares of course as a reminder....

Show me the money.....then come here and talk.

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I don't even want to waste money on the commission to even try to sell the shares lol. Going to wait until the next E-Trade commission free day to hopefully get rid of that crap from my account.
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