quote:Originally posted by milliam: Frank, I saw that info on the LLC, but I assumed CSHD was not a LLC. I'd like to find something like that where it spells it out point blank for other types of companies.
I'd also like to find something that concretely says if JA can come to the US or not. IMO, if he can't, he shouldn't be/act as our CEO.
If you look at the details it says LLC or Corporation (Long as its not S Corp)
I actually called the CSHD registrant- verified the above.
JA Should have no issues running a public company in the US from Canada....the question is do they have the registrants in place in the state of operation?
Thats not even getting into the entire voting structure of the shares on the 11/27 date. I have compiled some extensive information on the topic and am looking to find WHO provided the vote to equal 51% of the shares.
It was not MA- he only had 11.9 mil shares at the time (11/27/06).
Not that any of this matters- we all sit on the shares we have and watch to see if our numbers are drawn in the lottery daily.
It is interesting the holes in this........like swiss cheese
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Frank, I guess I didn't look at that stuff enough. Thanks for the clarification. I had my doubts that there was a rule about the non-citizen deal, just because no real DD came up about it after Rufus threw it out.
I would still like to know about John's US travel status though.
The 51% vote info would be huge IMO. Everyone assumes it was mainly Mike and it almost seems like it has to be. I remember some rumors floating around about the TA signing a document saying Mike has the 50 million to vote, but those are just rumors without real documentation. Then again, those rumors might have been that the TA signed a document saying they (the voters) had 51%. Too much stuff going on with this stock to remember!
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quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Well its almost thursday, and still no early in the week PR from JA, shocking as that may seem lol.
Yeah, and no proxy from Rufus either. Lots of hot air from both sides it seems. At least that will get us a nice warm day here in Atlanta .
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quote:Originally posted by milliam: Frank, I guess I didn't look at that stuff enough. Thanks for the clarification. I had my doubts that there was a rule about the non-citizen deal, just because no real DD came up about it after Rufus threw it out.
I would still like to know about John's US travel status though.
The 51% vote info would be huge IMO. Everyone assumes it was mainly Mike and it almost seems like it has to be. I remember some rumors floating around about the TA signing a document saying Mike has the 50 million to vote, but those are just rumors without real documentation. Then again, those rumors might have been that the TA signed a document saying they (the voters) had 51%. Too much stuff going on with this stock to remember!
I did a decent summary on the Form4 that outlines the share quantity at specific dates. One of which included the # of shares held at the time of the 51% majority vote.
If you dig up my posts on HSM you can see my post of the TA letter- and bolded the part that as of 11/30 (the date of the letter) MA's pref shares were still pref shares...with no voting rights.
His form 4 files also shows the # of shares held at the time of the vote to be 11.9mil- 110mil OS (without the pref shares converted) means a 56.1mil share count to= 51%...assuming that the 51% majority rule applies to the overall OS.
Just more info that makes this stink
I however for my own reasons have not sold- I have actually bought more and averaged down to .23
I am confident that I will make some good money on this play.....its just the time table thats been skewed.
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Good work Frank. I just wonder about Mike's form 4's. Seems like such an after thought. Like, he I voted all of those shares, maybe I should file them or something.
I'll have to look for the TA letter...sounds like a good piece of info.
One of Rufus's points on SPR is that even if they voted 51%, how many were air shares? If there's 600 million shares in the market, it wouldn't be hard to get 56 million shares up I would think.
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Hell I've been trying to buy this crapola at .05 for about a week . I wanted to flip it and let some of the brain washed fools buy it around .15 a share .
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quote:Originally posted by ruthie: Why is there oo's on bid and on ask??
Because it is current trading on the Gray Sheets. It is supposed be matched trading only. Meaning that buyers and sellers are being matched up. Somedays it looks like that is happening and then other days it seems impossible for that to be happening. I guess that's why they call them Gray Sheets because everything is a shade of gray and nothing is black white or even pink.
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Wally, greys are definitely NOT matched trades. I've bought and sold HVLN numerous times on the greys at prices different from my bid or ask, and I actually bought some CSHD on the greys a few weeks ago out of boredom. I put in a bid of .20 and it executed at .17.
The only supposition that I can make about the way that it works is that MMs don't make markets between each other. In other words, if I put in an order to buy 1000 shares of CSHD at .20 and someone else with a different broker puts in an order to sell at .20, it'll never get executed, but if someone puts in a sell at .14 with my broker, it would execute at .17 for both of us.
That's purely speculation on my part, but seems to be the only thing that makes sense given my experience.
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quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Wally, greys are definitely NOT matched trades. I've bought and sold HVLN numerous times on the greys at prices different from my bid or ask, and I actually bought some CSHD on the greys a few weeks ago out of boredom. I put in a bid of .20 and it executed at .17.
The only supposition that I can make about the way that it works is that MMs don't make markets between each other. In other words, if I put in an order to buy 1000 shares of CSHD at .20 and someone else with a different broker puts in an order to sell at .20, it'll never get executed, but if someone puts in a sell at .14 with my broker, it would execute at .17 for both of us.
That's purely speculation on my part, but seems to be the only thing that makes sense given my experience.
Thanks. I guess that's why it's the Gray's. One never knows.
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Should be called the browns, cause it's all bullsh*t.
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quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Wally, greys are definitely NOT matched trades. I've bought and sold HVLN numerous times on the greys at prices different from my bid or ask, and I actually bought some CSHD on the greys a few weeks ago out of boredom. I put in a bid of .20 and it executed at .17.
The only supposition that I can make about the way that it works is that MMs don't make markets between each other. In other words, if I put in an order to buy 1000 shares of CSHD at .20 and someone else with a different broker puts in an order to sell at .20, it'll never get executed, but if someone puts in a sell at .14 with my broker, it would execute at .17 for both of us.
That's purely speculation on my part, but seems to be the only thing that makes sense given my experience.
Thanks. I guess that's why it's the Gray's. One never knows.
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Should be called the browns, cause it's all bullsh*t.
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Wally, greys are definitely NOT matched trades. I've bought and sold HVLN numerous times on the greys at prices different from my bid or ask, and I actually bought some CSHD on the greys a few weeks ago out of boredom. I put in a bid of .20 and it executed at .17.
The only supposition that I can make about the way that it works is that MMs don't make markets between each other. In other words, if I put in an order to buy 1000 shares of CSHD at .20 and someone else with a different broker puts in an order to sell at .20, it'll never get executed, but if someone puts in a sell at .14 with my broker, it would execute at .17 for both of us.
That's purely speculation on my part, but seems to be the only thing that makes sense given my experience.
Thanks. I guess that's why it's the Gray's. One never knows.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Hey wasn't their someone that wanted to make a movie about CSHD ???? I wonder when they are going to release it ?
When they get funded by the bond John Arlitt recieved in Germany......
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quote:Originally posted by milliam: Frank, I saw that info on the LLC, but I assumed CSHD was not a LLC. I'd like to find something like that where it spells it out point blank for other types of companies.
I'd also like to find something that concretely says if JA can come to the US or not. IMO, if he can't, he shouldn't be/act as our CEO.
If you look at the details it says LLC or Corporation (Long as its not S Corp)
I actually called the CSHD registrant- verified the above.
JA Should have no issues running a public company in the US from Canada....the question is do they have the registrants in place in the state of operation?
Thats not even getting into the entire voting structure of the shares on the 11/27 date. I have compiled some extensive information on the topic and am looking to find WHO provided the vote to equal 51% of the shares.
It was not MA- he only had 11.9 mil shares at the time (11/27/06).
Not that any of this matters- we all sit on the shares we have and watch to see if our numbers are drawn in the lottery daily.
It is interesting the holes in this........like swiss cheese
Frank, I just read somewhere the other day that the vote was made up of 25 people....who they all are I have no idea....
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Hey wasn't their someone that wanted to make a movie about CSHD ???? I wonder when they are going to release it ?
When they get funded by the bond John Arlitt recieved in Germany......
I thought I told you guys...the PR about the new funding & the 140 page Proxy is in the hands of Elvis, he is burying them next to Jimmy Hoffa ...
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Big Foot & the Tooth Fairy are taking bets on if the Proxy is a myth or not....
Big Foot says it doesn't exist, he spoted it in the land of Make-Believe, next to the bonds....
...but the Tooth Fairy said, no way, she knows the Proxy is real ,she saw it tucked under Rufus' pillow right next to the Vodka bottle & car keys...
Now I know that's a lie. You ask How? Because I believe Rufus is a whiskey man, Jack Daniels if memory serves me right. Otherwise it sounds about right.
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Back to the 51% vote deal. At the BBQ, they talked about the 51% they used the first time to vote in Mike. They said they had about 13 people to make up the 51%.
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Interesting...Was the barbecue the "shareholders meeting"? I never received any information about the vote and thought I would. Maybe they new the verdict of the vote since the 13 people may have been officers of the company or bigger investors.
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The BBQ was right after Mike took back over. The only 2 people I know that used their shares to vote on that one was Mike and James Gee. This info about the 13 or so people came from James and later, Mike also said the same.
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Well, it's the 23rd.....Rufus, the CSHD Messaih, said we would have our 140 page Proxy.....I checked my mail....NO PROXY....Jees, anyone surprised????
I heard the PROXY is hanging out with $15/share & the 6:1.....
HSM....was saying something about a rumor of an indictment coming.....anybody hear anything?
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