quote:Meanwhile, some of Conversion's starry-eyed Internet followers claim that they are continuing to add to their positions at recent "bargain basement" prices while they wait for their latest champion, Mr. Arlitt, to confirm the company's purported bond holdings and put the assets to work.
And one other quote that should be noted, as it relates to the supposed "bonds."
quote:While the research continues, **********, like the SEC, is already satisfied that Conversion's claims to owning billions of dollars worth of bonds are rubbish.
Moreover, **********'s investigation indicates that the company's murky "global funding" partners, including the Caracas Group led by Mr. Paez and Mr. Sakli's HSWF, never had the billions of dollars worth of bonds touted by Conversion.
Thanks for posting the link, Tex. Very enlightening.
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quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Here's a ********** article on Mr. Arlitt that's even more interesting, as it pertains to the future of this "company."
Edit: This is a s t o ck w a tch article. For some reason, AS won't let these things be posted. How f'in lame is that?
Just read the article, this is a joke. If I had to guess, I bet Arlitt was all part of the plan, and was involved in the pump and selling on the way up as he told everyone to hold. Perfectly orchestrated in my opinion.
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I believe that quoting the people in that article leaves Lee Webb wide open to a law suite if he is quoting false statements regarding what they have said. If Rufus is a "fraud", I will take and support any action necessary to put him in jail. I would also support going after his and Ben Stanley's properties etc.
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Well finally finished reading that waste of space article. Boy Webb can spin a load.
I will give him a few pats on the back. He has been able to get people who have never spoken to speak, read court documents and followed bankruptcy documents that have never been read or followed, and can name drop and twist better than the best habitual liar. (Well lookie there I can do it too. Didn't actually call him a habitual liar but by mentioning it in the same sentence I made all think I did.)
It is said that the best way to make a ficional story most believable is to give it real life characters.
I noticed almost half a page of one character "denying to comment" delaying answer and using legal shield to combat leading questions. Really? Is is really so unbeliveable that someone does not want to answer inquiries from the journalistic credibility of M.r Webb? Additionally, I read another 5 minutes worth of content speaking directly towards a seperate and as of yet unrelated fraud case in an unrelated South Pacific country with no mention of it's relation to CSHD other than it fit in to his opinion of what is true investigative journalism.
Like I said... I am not impressed. May it be true? Time will tell. If proven so. I will appologise to Mr. Webb right here but personally I think it is a large load of opinion from someone that really likes to hear themselves talk.
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: I believe that quoting the people in that article leaves Lee Webb wide open to a law suite if he is quoting false statements regarding what they have said. If Rufus is a "fraud", I will take and support any action necessary to put him in jail.
I'm sure Mr. Webb knows well what liability he might be exposed to. It's amazing to me that there are still those out there wanting to "shoot the messenger" with this stock. The SEC, Webb, the evil shorters, and Sto ckw a tch are not in collusion against CSHD. The company is, was, and always will be a scam. Nothing more, nothing less. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the only thing left to do at this point is to protect whatever capital an investor might left, attempting to unwind the position as best as possible.
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quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Well finally finished reading that waste of space article. Boy Webb can spin a load.
I will give him a few pats on the back. He has been able to get people who have never spoken to speak, read court documents and followed bankruptcy documents that have never been read or followed, and can name drop and twist better than the best habitual liar. (Well lookie there I can do it too. Didn't actually call him a habitual liar but by mentioning it in the same sentence I made all think I did.)
It is said that the best way to make a ficional story most believable is to give it real life characters.
I noticed almost half a page of one character "denying to comment" delaying answer and using legal shield to combat leading questions. Really? Is is really so unbeliveable that someone does not want to answer inquiries from the journalistic credibility of M.r Webb? Additionally, I read another 5 minutes worth of content speaking directly towards a seperate and as of yet unrelated fraud case in an unrelated South Pacific country with no mention of it's relation to CSHD other than it fit in to his opinion of what is true investigative journalism.
Like I said... I am not impressed. May it be true? Time will tell. If proven so. I will appologise to Mr. Webb right here but personally I think it is a large load of opinion from someone that really likes to hear themselves talk.
Right. Webb's out to get CSHD. The SEC's out to get CSHD. St o ckw a tch is out to get CSHD. The evil shorters are out to get CSHD. The bonds are real. Arlitt will turn things around.
(Have I missed any?)
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Tax ..... It would be nice to see Romeo Venditti deny these statements if they are untrue. He has seemed to disappear from site. I'd like to see any of the people in the article say the statements are false. I know that if I was in an article like that (and was misquoted)...... I would be making a lot of noise denying the quotes. Wouldn't you?
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thedoctor ~ I don't know if Romeo would deny the quotes. Reading them they sound real enough, and no one that I know has been able to even talk to Romeo so who would know if they actually sound like him. If he has CSHD shares and was supposed to be paid in said shares, I would think the lack of an S-4 would literally "screw" him. He may be unhappy with the current actions of the company. Rufus may have placed him "back" on the BOD just for that purpose. Only to be removed by John Arlitt days later.
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My bad. I forgot that I have also been accused of being part of an orchestrated bashing of the stock. I'm honored to be included on such a list. Given the choice between being on a list with the SEC, Lee Webb, and evil shorters, or being on the side of some barely literate used car salesman, a failed stock promoter, and some Italian guy named "Romeo", give me the SEC, Webb, and the shorters any day!
[edit: I use "used car salesmen" not in a literal sense, but in the sense that RPH is little more than that in the penny stock game.]
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BTW, assuming a vast conspiracy involving the SEC, an investigative journalist, various and sundry supposed naked shorters, as well as some random guy who happened to stumble upon this PoS on a message board violates the principle of Occam's Razor FAR more blatantly than assuming that CSHD is nothing more than a poorly-orchestrated sham.
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I think it is strange how many good honest people are out there selflessly and tirelessly worrying about my money.
It is just a shame they all get such bad raps.
I believe it is the one's who claim the most intelligence who like to repeat the saying, "If it is too good to be true, then it most likely is."
Everyone admits and always has that CSHD fits this model, but no one has ever commented that the "yang" is also a just fit.
Isn't it just too good to be true that someone is so dedicated to helping me make the right investment that they are willing to do so no matter what the financial impact is on them?
I mean relocating to another country could not have been easy on Tim Miles. Spending 24/7 bashing on a stock board could not have been cheap to the hundreds of dedicated bashers on this stock, wasting hundreds of man hours trying to get their baseless points across to potential investors.
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Also BTW (and OT), Fox's medical drama House might just be the best show on T.V. What made me think of that, you ask? Well, their third episode of their first season was entitled "Occam's Razor", in which the good doctor discovers that in fact it WAS the simplest cause that caused the college boy to pass out while having sex: he was doing X. With that said, as I mentioned, Webb's investigative discoveries far better fit the facts at hand (and are much simpler, when boiled down to the basics) than assuming all of the postulates that have to be true for CSHD to actually have what they claimed they have.
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You're a hoot, TB! Keep it up! I've rarely been so entertained by someone so completely out of touch with reality. This stock has no "financial impact" on me. I discuss it because it's there to be discussed.
You're violating the Razor with every post you make, further extrapolating the vast conspiracy that has brought down CSHD.
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Lee Webb never replied to my email once I asked him how much money hes lost in CSHD and why he resorted to personal attacks vs. logical though to evaluate the stock.
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There you go again Kevin .... You're repeating yourself. You don't own any stock. Let people that own the stock discuss it. Stop interfering with us. This is where you start becoming a pest. Show your great IQ (that you claim) and show a little class. Go away. You said what you said... we read it .... now GO like a big boy.
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I'll go--or stay--at my own leisure, thanks. There's no requirement--nor should there be--at AS that someone be invested in a stock to discuss it.
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Then your only purpose here to what? We don't want your advice. In fact, you are starting to look more and more like a fool. Grow up and realize that you are a very annoying person. There is no way that a person with the IQ you claim to have, would continue to be and act the way you do. Take the suggestion .... Stop making yourself look bad. Good night.
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quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Yeah, Tim. It's all Webb's fault. It's all those "personal attacks" he's making, based completely on the facts at hand. Yeah. It's "funny."
Personal attacks does not need to be in quotes when you read his words. He makes his intentions quite clear.
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Then your only purpose here to what? We don't want your advice. In fact, you are starting to look more and more like a fool. Grow up and realize that you are a very annoying person. There is no way that a person with the IQ you claim to have, would continue to be and act the way you do. Take the suggestion .... Stop making yourself look bad. Good night.
My only purpose here is to discuss this stock. Can't get more Occam's Razor than that.
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quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Yeah, Tim. It's all Webb's fault. It's all those "personal attacks" he's making, based completely on the facts at hand. Yeah. It's "funny."
Personal attacks does not need to be in quotes when you read his words. He makes his intentions quite clear.
It's not a "personal attack" if it's true. For instance, if John Doe robbed the local Wachovia, is it a "personal attack" to point that out when he subsequently turns up with an unexplained $150K? Hardly. In the same way, Webb pointing out the true nature of the characters involved in the sordid soap opera that is CSHD is not a "personal attack", but a litany of their bad behavior, and general lack of intelligence (in the case of RPH).
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You are discussing it because it is there to be discussed? And you say that Ockham's Razor has no justification? You are the one making me laugh.
I read and contribute on this thread because I invested in CSHD and am interested in news good or bad, verifyable, or speculation about that investment. That is a simple and reasonable reason for someone to be on this thread.
but you on the other hand expect all to believe that you are here because you have stumbled over this thread and found the conversation so cerebral, friendly and inviting. That you will post negatively for hours into the night and pretty much all day about a company that is not benefiting you at all?
It is no wonder so many people flock to the other simple explainations as to your interest in this thread. 1. You are paid to be here. 2. You just like to fight. or 3. A little bit of both 1 and 2 and just refuse other forms of therapy.
I any one of those cases it is not worth my time to debate with you which is why I normally just ignore your baseless comments.
GLTA enjoy the rest of your evening Kevin, I know I will.
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You're quite humorous, TB. You evidently have no understanding of the nature of Occam's Razor. It points to the fact that the simplest explanations are most often true. It holds in this case. I like to discuss stocks. This stock is widely discussed and debated. Therefore, I discuss this stock. Your wild ass theories aside, it's as simple as that. I suggest you google Occam's Razor, and make sure you fully understand what it entails before using it in further discussion.
For the record, my comments here have not been "baseless" in any way. They've been rooted in the reality of the sham cast of characters that have brought CSHD to the point at which it is today.
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If you cant see the personal attacks by mr webb then i cant help you kevin.
CSHD never disclosed the education level of rufus. Alexander never said he "washed his hands clean". CSHD never said what experience was required for CEO position. CSHD never released a PR titled "comedy skit 101" CSHD never PRd mentioned its starry-eyed followers.
Therefore, his articles are not remotely true.
Speaking of lee webb, i need to shave my pubes tonight.
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You are quite a guy, Tim. I think it's safe to assume whatever CSHD "disclosed" or "said" or "released" or "PRd" is probably a lie. I just find it incredible that you can't see the irony in your contention that Lee Webb referring to "starry-eyed followers" is a lie. TIM! YOU are a "starry-eyed follower"!!!
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He is not only your messenger, but your lord and god as well and you should worship him as such. Webb the almighty messenger reminds me of Tim Miles who brags about all the DD he did after admitting that he did'nt do any at all.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: I believe that quoting the people in that article leaves Lee Webb wide open to a law suite if he is quoting false statements regarding what they have said. If Rufus is a "fraud", I will take and support any action necessary to put him in jail.
I'm sure Mr. Webb knows well what liability he might be exposed to. It's amazing to me that there are still those out there wanting to "shoot the messenger" with this stock. The SEC, Webb, the evil shorters, and Sto ckw a tch are not in collusion against CSHD. The company is, was, and always will be a scam. Nothing more, nothing less. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the only thing left to do at this point is to protect whatever capital an investor might left, attempting to unwind the position as best as possible.
Then deconstruct the article. Show where he's mistaken, point-by-point. Prove what he writes is not true. He has backed up his research with phone calls, interview, e-mails, etc. So prove him wrong.
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quote:Originally posted by Bo Gusman: Good morning board
Don't Kevin Bailey remind you of the guy who hogs the mic at karaoke?
Ha ~ I'm waiting for the foundation to be laid, John's the man, if things really are as I have heard, CSHD will be the BIGGEST % gain I make in 2007, hands down....
-and I've made quite a bit on flip-flops here, in some 100%'ers again, PBLS finally took off, that was the last one on my old pic list!
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