quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Greenday ~ Knowing exactly how you feel here. Something is or was definitely brewing. I will be able to wait.
We really don't have much choice but to wait at this stage of the game. Beside the difficulty of selling on the Grey Sheets there are so many other scenario's here that could play out, one would kick themselves if it happened after they held for so long and then sold.
I don't have a big stake here so will patiently await any news that is forth comming. People always make predicitions concerning news on just about every stock. I always take them with a HUGE grain of salt and don't put much importance in them. Easy way to set people up for failure. Dashed hopes usually equal higher ratios of selling.
You have to wonder who benefits more from these types of posts. Very little to gain if they are correct and a lot to lose if they are wrong. I usually look at them as forms of sublte bashing since most people then begin to believe that it's the company who didn't keep their promise and forget that it was an individual that started the rumor.
Oh well. Here I sit waiting to hear what ever crumbs they throw our way.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Tex ~ last week he was saying that the 18th was going to be a big day. Many thought Friday afterhours going into the weekend would be something that would make Monday huge. When nothing happened Friday afterhours... we listened over the weekend... When nothing happened over the weekend... we listened for something today... blagh blahg blagh get the pattern.
I said missed prediction, but there is still hours left, and he did alter the time of fruition a few times.
I just think his posts are "interesting". He is getting info from somewhere, and timelines are prooving to be very tricky in this play.
so which poster is "he"?
Not following you on "tricky" & "timelines" ...
You mean, he's been accurate on some important events?
They are talking about LP640. A new postered on HSM that has been pumping the stock and predicting major news will be out. First it was Friday, Then today. Similar to what Rufus's Mom(A Lady in The House) has posted. Last I had heard LP640 had back tracked a bit to state by Wens. Same ole Same ol. I have inside info type BS.
I think I posted, when we first were suspended that the process was long and that many who believed resolution would happen in weeks were being too optomistic. From my research into other companies that have been suspended and delisted, I found that it takes anywhere from 6 months to a year to resume normal trading. If anyone can point out a company that has gone through this and resumed normal trading(not Grey sheets) please post about it.
I believe we will start to see some sort of movement in January, whether it's what we are looking for or not, I have no idea. I doubt there will be trading on anything other than the Greys until mid Jan or beyond. Of course this is ONLY MY OPINION.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Tex ~ last week he was saying that the 18th was going to be a big day. Many thought Friday afterhours going into the weekend would be something that would make Monday huge. When nothing happened Friday afterhours... we listened over the weekend... When nothing happened over the weekend... we listened for something today... blagh blahg blagh get the pattern.
I said missed prediction, but there is still hours left, and he did alter the time of fruition a few times.
I just think his posts are "interesting". He is getting info from somewhere, and timelines are prooving to be very tricky in this play.
so which poster is "he"?
Not following you on "tricky" & "timelines" ...
You mean, he's been accurate on some important events?
They are talking about LP640. A new postered on HSM that has been pumping the stock and predicting major news will be out. First it was Friday, Then today. Similar to what Rufus's Mom(A Lady in The House) has posted. Last I had heard LP640 had back tracked a bit to state by Wens. Same ole Same ol. I have inside info type BS.
I think I posted, when we first were suspended that the process was long and that many who believed resolution would happen in weeks were being too optomistic. From my research into other companies that have been suspended and delisted, I found that it takes anywhere from 6 months to a year to resume normal trading. If anyone can point out a company that has gone through this and resumed normal trading(not Grey sheets) please post about it.
I believe we will start to see some sort of movement in January, whether it's what we are looking for or not, I have no idea. I doubt there will be trading on anything other than the Greys until mid Jan or beyond. Of course this is ONLY MY OPINION.
GLTA Wally
understood about the long process, Wally... non-grey trading would be preceded by, I believe, a series of filings. I suspect the bare-bones' facts of said filings (IF they come) will be severe, despite any legally allowable optimism...
Certainly, *whoever* owns the shell would be foolish to let that value slip away; obviously, a "clean" shell is more valuable...
However, that's not what I'm asking--am asking whether this "predictor" has *hit* on any event(s) of significance... ???
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tex asks: "However, that's not what I'm asking--am asking whether this "predictor" has *hit* on any event(s) of significance... ???"
Tex this poster is fairly new...I think in December...so the answer is No he has not "hit any predictions" that I can recall...
OK, thanks...as I re-read, that's what Wally is saying, too, eh?
'ppreciate it, y'all...
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I don't think so Tex- its been 100% speculation just like everyone else. So the significance comes into play if any of the projected news comes out as predicted.
Either way- we are still sitting in the same boat for news/Filings etc...
The chatter however is more exciting than the alternative Zzzzzz
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tex asks: "However, that's not what I'm asking--am asking whether this "predictor" has *hit* on any event(s) of significance... ???"
Tex this poster is fairly new...I think in December...so the answer is No he has not "hit any predictions" that I can recall...
To my knowledge, which I admit is very limited when it comes to HSM posting, You are right 10 of everything. He has yet to hit a single nail on the head.
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: HEWWWWWOOO!!!!!! TEXXY TEXXXXXX
CSHD THREAD=POOP
NO FACTS EVERYONE LOSES MONEY RUFUS AND CO SCAMMED ALL..
OOPSIES
what are WE ALL STILL TALKING about?
INVEST IN NEOL
Be Happy in 07
Why come here and spam with NEOL. Not enough people looking at it through normal channels, IE your posts on the NEOL board.
I love when people come in here to simply bash the stock. If it's poop and dead then move on and allow those who still have a stake here, whether it be financial or educational continue.
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For what it's worth, I finally received a response from client services at Euroclear regarding the press release issued by CSHD claiming the bond under ISIN DE0006106875. In October, I had forwarded the press release and asked them if they would verify the claims made by CSHD. Here's their response (you'll notice that they claim to have responded to me on 11/1 and 11/8 but I never received anything from them):
From:Client_Service*euroclear.com [Add to Address Book]
To:xxxxxxxxx*comcast.net Subject:CASE 1280927931 ISIN DE0006106875 Date:Friday, December 08, 2006 6:04:45 AM
Dear Mr xxxxxxxxx,
Re: your e-mail conc. ISIN DE0006106875 you asked about a press release
As replied to you on 01/11/06 and on 08/11/06 quote/ After further investigations with our Securities Information Team and our Corporate Action Team, we can only confirm that the above ISIN is eligible in Euroclear and pays annually an interest at a rate of 11 pct. We have not been advised by our depositary on some press release.
We suggest you to arrange this matter with your agent/ issuer directly.
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Best regards Giuseppina Duminuco Euroclear Bank SA/NV Commercial division - Client Services Tel : +32 (0)2 224 2810 Fax : +32 (0)2 224 1287
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: HEWWWWWOOO!!!!!! TEXXY TEXXXXXX
CSHD THREAD=POOP
NO FACTS EVERYONE LOSES MONEY RUFUS AND CO SCAMMED ALL..
OOPSIES
what are WE ALL STILL TALKING about?
INVEST IN NEOL
Be Happy in 07
Why come here and spam with NEOL. Not enough people looking at it through normal channels, IE your posts on the NEOL board.
I love when people come in here to simply bash the stock. If it's poop and dead then move on and allow those who still have a stake here, whether it be financial or educational continue.
A little common courtesy never hurt anyone.
Happy Holidays to you.
GLTA Wally
Wow...I'm just having a little fun with everyone. No one on this board plays nasdaq, NEOL will be a winner, but you think I really need to post it on here to recruit people? Come on now! I was just playing around with everyone having a little fun. We all lost a lot of money on this one if we didn't sell, we all know the chances of re-cooperating that money is very slim. Please don't always be so serious. Couldn't you tell by how I posted it was a joke.
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Not sure if this is new or not but found this on the Point Click and Dream Site.
Investor Relations Our Principles - National and Global Client centered, working in partnership, accountable for quality results, dedicated to financial integrity and cost-effectiveness, inspired and innovative.
Our Values - Personal honesty, integrity, commitment; working together in teams with openness and trust; empowering others and respecting differences; encouraging risk-taking and responsibility; enjoying our work and our families.
Some of the information on this website may contain projections and forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainty. Actual results may differ materially from those set forth in such statements.
For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, review Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation online SEC filings, including the most recent annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly report on Form 10-Q visit their website at cvsu.us.
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: For what it's worth, I finally received a response from client services at Euroclear regarding the press release issued by CSHD claiming the bond under ISIN DE0006106875. In October, I had forwarded the press release and asked them if they would verify the claims made by CSHD. Here's their response (you'll notice that they claim to have responded to me on 11/1 and 11/8 but I never received anything from them):
From:Client_Service*euroclear.com [Add to Address Book]
To:xxxxxxxxx*comcast.net Subject:CASE 1280927931 ISIN DE0006106875 Date:Friday, December 08, 2006 6:04:45 AM
Dear Mr xxxxxxxxx,
Re: your e-mail conc. ISIN DE0006106875 you asked about a press release
As replied to you on 01/11/06 and on 08/11/06 quote/ After further investigations with our Securities Information Team and our Corporate Action Team, we can only confirm that the above ISIN is eligible in Euroclear and pays annually an interest at a rate of 11 pct. We have not been advised by our depositary on some press release.
We suggest you to arrange this matter with your agent/ issuer directly.
unquote/
Best regards Giuseppina Duminuco Euroclear Bank SA/NV Commercial division - Client Services Tel : +32 (0)2 224 2810 Fax : +32 (0)2 224 1287
Email :client_service*euroclear.com
Thanks MT..
Good work too.
So in essence they are claiming the ISIN to be real.
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quote:Originally posted by wallymac: Not sure if this is new or not but found this on the Point Click and Dream Site.
Investor Relations Our Principles - National and Global Client centered, working in partnership, accountable for quality results, dedicated to financial integrity and cost-effectiveness, inspired and innovative.
Our Values - Personal honesty, integrity, commitment; working together in teams with openness and trust; empowering others and respecting differences; encouraging risk-taking and responsibility; enjoying our work and our families.
Some of the information on this website may contain projections and forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainty. Actual results may differ materially from those set forth in such statements.
For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, review Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation online SEC filings, including the most recent annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly report on Form 10-Q visit their website at cvsu.us.
This agreement is made this 20th day of November, 1999, by and between Enviro-Recovery, Inc. ("Enviro"), having corporate offices at 2200 East Lake Shore Drive, Ashland, WI 54806, USA, and the companies, FundAmazon, with its corporate offices at Conj.Eoclides Figoeido, Rua "J" no 15- Belem, Para, Brazil, tax registration # 83.340.992/001-23 and Eco-Wood, Ltd. ("Eco- Wood") with its corporate offices at Rua Tancredo Neves 500-Breves Para, Brazil, tax registration # 02.432.567/001-62.
FundAmazon and Eco-Wood represent the following:
1. FundAmazon, a non-profit Brazilian company, has the sole license granted by the State of Para and IBAMA ("Para licenses") in existence for recovering wood in the State of Para from the Amazon River and all bodies of fresh water connected to or part of the Amazon River ("Amazon River System"). No companies or organizations other than FundAmazon have been granted a license or awarded a contract to extract wood from the Amazon River System by any Brazilian government agency except for Lake Tucurui.
2. FundAmazon has granted rights to recover wood from the Amazon River System in the state of Para to Eco-Wood, Ltd., a commercial Brazilian company by contract ("sublicense") and has not granted recovery rights to any other party. Therefore, Eco-Wood is the only company that can legal recover wood from the Amazon River in the state of Para.
3. FundAmazon and Eco-Wood have the authority to grant sublicenses to recover wood from the Amazon River in the State of Para and the licenses are assignable to third parties.
4. The licenses held by FundAmazon effectively preclude any company from obtaining a license to extract wood from the Amazon River System and further that these licenses give FundAmazon the first rights to salvage wood from the Amazon River.
5. Eco-Wood is currently recovering wood from the activated areas of the Para licenses. The area of the Amazon River System covered by the activated area of the licenses include all rivers in the State of Para.
6. The mill operated by Eco-Wood can receive an international certification equivalent to FSC or Smartwood certification after correcting minor discrepancies.
7. Based on the density of logs in the Amazon River estimated from salvage operations, Eco-Wood and FundAmazon project that the areas in the Amazon River covered by the activated part of their licenses contain from 10 to 60 million cubic meters of logs.
WHEREAS, Enviro has developed a business in processing and selling salvaged underwater wood.
AND WHEREAS, Enviro has developed techniques to locate submersed logs and tree with the help of sidescan sonar.
NOW, the parties hereby agree as follows:
1. The parties shall prepare and execute an acquisition agreement containing the following terms:
(a) Upon execution of the acquisition agreement, a Brazilian subsidiary of Enviro ("the Subsidiary") will acquire the assets of Eco-Wood (including FundAmazon/Eco-Wood contracts, licenses, license rights, and other intangible assets) and Eco-Wood will grant the sole sublicense to Enviro-Recovery, Inc. for recovering wood from the Amazon River, Inc.
(b) Enviro will transfer 3,000,000 shares of common stock to Eco-Wood using the following schedule
(i) 1,000,000 shares upon execution of acquisition agreement;
(ii) 1,000,000 shares one year from the date of the acquisition agreement;
(iii) 1,000,000 shares two years from the date of the acquisition agreement;
(iv) the stock will be restricted for not less than one year depending on U.S. securities laws and its issuance contingent upon Enviro being the only company that can salvage wood from the Amazon River System in the state of Para from the date of this agreement until the stock is issued.
(c) As long as Enviro is the only company that can legally recover wood from the Amazon River System with the exception of Lake Tucurui, Enviro shall pay Eco-Wood a royalty of 2% of net payments received for wood retrieved under this license and sold by the Subsidiary. Royalties shall be paid quarterly and shall be subject to adjustment based on receipt of payment and deductions, bad debt, etc. __________________
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d) Options to Eco-Wood for 1,200,000 shares to be granted at $.20 when a sole license is granted to Enviro for recovery of logs from the Amazon River System, state of Para and that FundAmazon provides Enviro with license documentation to support that Enviro is the only company that can recover wood from the Amazon River System in the State of Para. FundAmazon will meet the documentation requirement upon Enviro confirming that the federal and state licenses or appropriate legislation, regulations, etc. represent that any competitor that wants to recover wood from the Amazon River must obtain the permission of FundAmazon or show that FundAmazon can stop the competitor by starting a salvage option in the part of theriver that the competitor applied for recovery rights ("documentation requirements"). The documentation, validity and support must be acceptable, in terms of content and length of time, in the judgment of Enviro ("agreeable license terms") for the Options to be granted. The Options shall not be granted if the documentation requirements or agreeable license terms are not met within 18 months of this agreement. After the options are granted, options for purchasing 200,000 shares shall vest every 12 months after the options are granted. The options shall be exercisable for 2 years after the options vest. If another company legally recovers wood from the Amazon River in the State of Para all unexercised options expire.
(e) Options to Eco-Wood for 1,200,000 shares to be granted at $.20 when a sole license is granted to Enviro for removal of logs from the Amazon River System, state of Amazonia and that FundAmazon provides Enviro with license documentation to support that Enviro is the only company that can recover wood from the Amazon River System in the State of Para. FundAmazon will meet the documentation requirement upon Enviro confirming that the federal and state licenses or appropriate legislation, regulations, etc. represent that any competitor that wants to recover wood from the Amazon River must obtain the permission of FundAmazon or shows that FundAmazon can stop the competitor by starting a salvage operation in the part of the river that the competitor applied for recovery rights ("documentation requirements"). The documentation, validity and support must be acceptable, in terms of content of length of time, in the judgment of Enviro ("agreeable license terms") for the Options to be granted. The Options shall not be granted if the documentation requirements or agreeable license terms are not met within 18 months of this agreement. After the options are granted, options for purchasing 200,000 shares shall vest every 12 months after the options are granted. The options shall be exercisable for 2 years after the options vest. If another company legally recovers wood from the Amazon River in the State of Amazonia all unexercised options expire.
(f) Eco-Wood has the right to retain its name and legal identity.
(g) Eco-Wood shall have the right of first refusal to reacquire license rights at fair market value if Enviro or, its assignee, ceased at it's volition for reasons other than economic, legal or political to recover logs under this license for a continuous period of six months. This first right of refusal extends until two years from the date that the acquisition agreement is executed.
(h) Enviro cannot reassign the license to a non-affiliated 3rd party during the period when shares in item (b) above are not issued without the written consent of Eco-Wood which shall not be withheld unreasonably.
(i) Enviro agrees to meet all requirements as specified in the licenses for recovering wood from the Amazon River. __________________ More from WW2player on HSM
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A surfer, in regards to your post from HSM.
It brings back memories, im quite sure that Enviro-recovery is the company that Mike Alexander named in an early FHAL interview as the company that "failed" to go through with the log recovery. I would have thought that Eco-wood was a logistical means to make it happen this time but its interesting to see that Enviro is meant to pay Eco-wood royalties. Or maybe that does make sense, maybe Enviro is the actual retreiver and eco just handles the behind the scenes work. Possible IMO
In any regard, i hope they are still "attached" to CSHD. They actually seem to have roots!
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: For what it's worth, I finally received a response from client services at Euroclear regarding the press release issued by CSHD claiming the bond under ISIN DE0006106875. In October, I had forwarded the press release and asked them if they would verify the claims made by CSHD. Here's their response (you'll notice that they claim to have responded to me on 11/1 and 11/8 but I never received anything from them):
From:Client_Service*euroclear.com [Add to Address Book]
To:xxxxxxxxx*comcast.net Subject:CASE 1280927931 ISIN DE0006106875 Date:Friday, December 08, 2006 6:04:45 AM
Dear Mr xxxxxxxxx,
Re: your e-mail conc. ISIN DE0006106875 you asked about a press release
As replied to you on 01/11/06 and on 08/11/06 quote/ After further investigations with our Securities Information Team and our Corporate Action Team, we can only confirm that the above ISIN is eligible in Euroclear and pays annually an interest at a rate of 11 pct. We have not been advised by our depositary on some press release.
We suggest you to arrange this matter with your agent/ issuer directly.
unquote/
Best regards Giuseppina Duminuco Euroclear Bank SA/NV Commercial division - Client Services Tel : +32 (0)2 224 2810 Fax : +32 (0)2 224 1287
Email :client_service*euroclear.com
Thanks MT..
Good work too.
So in essence they are claiming the ISIN to be real.
we knew that, as i recall...
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