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Can I report you for reporting this? HAHAHA j/k
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quote:Originally posted by ClayN: What are you going to report???????
Strange comments like these should looked into. I'm not one that goes around reporting everything, but this is just too strange. Never hurts to give a heads up.
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Easy Vin...the Allah part was from someone's translation. Allah doesn't necessary mean terrorist. I would think that the only work for God in whatever language that was, is Allah.
I don't see any reason to report this, but you can if you like.
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I see nothing that should be reported. If it is from TUT he may have chosen a different language. The contents are in question due to the translation. What part makes you want to report it?
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Easy Vin...the Allah part was from someone's translation. Allah doesn't necessary mean terrorist. I would think that the only work for God in whatever language that was, is Allah.
I don't see any reason to report this, but you can if you like.
LOL, don't worry, I'm not flying off the handle or anything like that! Just don't like to see posts like that. Wondering what everyone thinks before I send.
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Is this poster threatening anyone directly or indirectly? While I find it a little odd tut is posting in Arabic now...the fact that it is in Arabic does not make it any more suspicious than English or Egyptian. Also...Allah is not a bad word.
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و س ت ب ر م ر ه و ض ع ن د م ا و ه ل س ي ت م ت د م ي ر ا ل ع د و. ا ل ن ص ر ل ن ي ك و ن ل ك. ا ل ذ ي ن ي ق ف و ن ق ب ل ا ن ي ع ي ش. ا ل ذ ي ن ي ق ف و ن م ع ظ ه و ر ه م ل ي ل ن ي م و ت. و س م ف و ف ا ن ت ق ا ر و ا ه. س ي ك و ن ل م ن ك ث ر و ا ت ا ل م م ل ك ه ع ن د م ا ف ي ن ي ك س ا ل ا ر ا ض ي و ح ر ا س ب و ا ب ه ا ل ن ص ر. ا ل ل ه ي ك و ن م ع ك ف ي ل م ا ك ت ف ع ل ه.
don't forget to read right to left and bottom up....
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Chart...I think that it was you...concerned if your cert gets lost or on fire what ever? the Certs that you get are registered in your SS# and the TA would be able to replace it if you lost it...
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Ok, one last stupid question of the day...I PROMISE. Can someone explain to me exactly what the TA does? I assume its a transfer agent????
Thanks again.
10, that was me. I thought I remembered from past securities training that a cert was like cash - I must be getting my thoughts mixed up with something else.
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Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.
We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.
As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.
One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.
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Sorry folks..had to step away or a moment.....I copied the five posts from directly from the HSM website . . . from the thread named: "CSHD - 10/2 Amazon Log Deal, Incredible interview with Rufus and Ben." . . the link... . http://www.hot stock market .com/forums/showthread.php?t=43023
...The time stamps locate the posts in the run of the thread... hope that helps you
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The first half of the Islamic creed makes a sharp distinction between the Oneness of God and the claims of religions and magical cults which teach that other gods exist besides Allah. Millions of Muslims daily confess, "There is no God but Allah!"
Allah IS NOT a universal word for God, and it IS NOT a "nice" word PERIOD. It IS the god of the terrorist. "FACT"
No,... let's not fly off the handle here, but those of you who have seen that video "The BIG PICTURE" understand HOW a whole trading system ""could"" collapse from the inside with naked shorting.
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Awesome read... I was DDing the "perfect storm" senario Rufas was discussing and ran accross this Hawk Assoc. Guide to prevent Naked Shorting for CEO's. It has a lot to do with what we are seeing. Here is an exerpt and link.
quote: HOW DOES NAKED SHORTING ACTUALLY WORK? Based on the accounts of CEOs who believe they have been the target of naked shorts, here is how the worst-case scenario might play out using an ill-intentioned hedge fund (“Fund Malicious”) as an example. Fund Malicious first identifies a target in the microcap world for naked shorting, most likely an obscure company in the development stage or having otherwise questionable fundamentals. The hedge fund gets that firm listed on a foreign exchange in, say, Berlin, via a request funneled through a complicit broker or official in that country. Malicious then sells short shares it doesn’t have (naked shorts them), waits three days for the DTCC to call and ask for the shares, and then replies either, “I borrowed them on the Berlin exchange, and they’ll take some time to get here,” or “I’m a market-maker for that company’s shares in Berlin and naked shorting rules don’t apply there.” The DTCC then loans the fund shares from its inventory and charges the broker a fee until the stock loan is repaid. Malicious, in the meantime, continues to drive the price of the target’s shares down as long and as aggressively as possible. In the event the fund does cover to pay off the stock loan, it doesn’t take much effort to begin the naked shorting cycle again.
Other theories exist as to how the hedge fund might skirt additional rules. To prevent “piling on,” exchange rules mandate that a stock cannot be shorted on a downtick or decrease in stock price. In other words, Malicious must wait for the stock price to increase briefly before shorting the company. Rather than wait passively for an uptick, though, Fund Malicious can create an uptick in the stock itself by purchasing a few shares through a small offshore account. The hedge fund is then free to short (or naked short) the company with both barrels at home. Malicious may get additional leverage out of the original naked short by choosing to target an ugly, obscure microcap company. By driving the price down, the fund hopes to scare existing shareholders into selling their shares, too, out of fear that something is going on that they don’t know about (i.e. the fund can “paint the tape”). This, of course, drives the price even lower while further obscuring the role of Fund Malicious. There is plenty of room for additional mischief in the above scenario. According to the most vocal critics of naked shorting, funds like Malicious have relationships with reporters and/or message board regulars who are compensated to distribute negative news about the company in order to exaggerate the selling. There is also plenty of irony possible, in that a CEO can be her shareholders’ worst enemy by merely uttering the words “naked shorting.” Investors may panic, the stock might dive further and legitimate short-sellers could begin to circle.
quote:Originally posted by dog: Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.
We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.
As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.
One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.
Guys...the Allah was what the translation gave me when I cut and pasted it into the Translation site (I do wonder why it did not say God instead of allah once translated).
I do find it very strange that TUT is posting in arabic...what significance does this have in this situation? He is starting to sound angry with emphasis on the "Those who stand before me will live and those who don't will die" stuff. Nobody's gonna die...they are just going to be very broke.
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Not overreacting Dog. Just don't like how it reads...it's a personal thing I won't get into here. Wouldn't do anything without everyone wanting me to do it. I agree...don't need negative attention that isn't warranted. It's not the Allah thing that I dislike, but some of the other references. Oh well, no need to make any more of this I guess.
Glad to see we were up today, although only a bit. I think last nights news kept this in the green.
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quote:Originally posted by dog: Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.
We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.
As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.
One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.
dog I like you man, but you have NO IDEA what you are talking about here...
Their religion states that the world ISN'T big enough for "us" -or "our kind"
That's why they kill us, that's why OUR BOYS are dying our there right now.
I have to chill, this pisses me off something fierce!!
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i got half my shares in cert today from TDA. it was free due to my apex account. I think most or all longs need to get some in cert. Seems to me like Rufus is giving a warning. He has been telling shareholders to do it for 4-6weeks or more.
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"......I do find it very strange that TUT is posting in arabic...what significance does this have in this situation?...... " by St.Matthew
I agree and I do not know quite what to think.....tut has always posted in english or standar english sandsript........I think a healthy skeptical view is appropriate to take about tut's posts today......perhaps he might post a follow-up and explain......LOL
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OK guys...we have a new one and this time, TUT translates. I know I feel better.
Today, 03:55 PM #1663 tutankhamen HSM Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 187 و ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيمن ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله. كس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله. سيكون لك
The cobra will strike again and when it does the enemy will be destroyed. Victory will be yours. Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will perish. The Pharoah will be avenged. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do.
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quote:Originally posted by dog: Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.
We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.
As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.
One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.
dog I like you man, but you have NO IDEA what you are talking about here...
Their religion states that the world ISN'T big enough for "us" -or "our kind"
That's why they kill us, that's why OUR BOYS are dying our there right now.
I have to chill, this pisses me off something fierce!!
quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: OK guys...we have a new one and this time, TUT translates. I know I feel better.
Today, 03:55 PM #1663 tutankhamen HSM Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 187 و ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيمن ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله. كس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله. سيكون لك
The cobra will strike again and when it does the enemy will be destroyed. Victory will be yours. Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will perish. The Pharoah will be avenged. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do.
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Chart...Vin and all, if you take any of Tut's post and translate it to a different language and take that same statement from that language and try to translate it back to English it does not end up in the same wording as what the original statement was made...that is why "things get lost in translation"...
My guess is this "Tut" took his statement, wrote it out in english and then put it into a program and it "spit out" what he posted...then the people that read the statement, copy and pasted it and it came back in different wording than what he said...just a guess...
but Allah and God were meant as "God" in my opinion...
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I wonder sometimes that in the spirit of sounding "TUT-like" (not that I have any clue what exactly that would be), that he just made a bad choice of words like Chart alluded to. That's what I'm going to go with so we can move on.
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quote:Originally posted by dog: Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.
We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.
As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.
One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.
dog I like you man, but you have NO IDEA what you are talking about here...
Their religion states that the world ISN'T big enough for "us" -or "our kind"
That's why they kill us, that's why OUR BOYS are dying our there right now.
I have to chill, this pisses me off something fierce!!
"STAND DOWN" Chart!!
Well at least you know I'll give you an honest opinion on things! ha ha ~
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I think the translation may have been screwed up...take a look at the translation that tut did following the latest arabic text...
The word Pharoah is used several times...using a translation generator rather than a literal translation I bet that the term King and not Pharoah is found(does arabic have a seperate word for Pharoah?)...just something to take a look at...pretty sure it was just a simple miscommunication...
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The cobra will strike again and when it does the enemy will be destroyed. Victory will be yours. Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will perish. The Pharoah will be avenged. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do.
My translation of the english version:
There will be another Corporate Event that will eliminate naked shorts. You will win. Those who are shareholders will make money. Those who are not won't make any money. Rufas will make up for BBAN and other previous bad decisions. You are going to make some money off of all of this when the big money starts to roll in and protect the share price. God is on your side for investing in CSHD. You are going to make some money off of all of this when the big money starts to roll in and protect the share price. God is on your side for investing in CSHD.
OMG Tut is a PUMPER! Can't believe I didn't see it before.
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OK now that all that is done... go back to the top of page 48 and have a look at the link that I posted. It isn't as good as the Darkside of the Looking Glass link of Charts. But someone needs to tell me if the last paragraph does sound like a short shaker to you. And on that is being employed by Rufas.