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Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Bob asked that we start a new thread. So I did.

[Big Grin]

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[ October 01, 2006, 22:39: Message edited by: Bob Frey ]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Form 8-K/A for FURIA ORGANIZATION INC /DE/


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29-Sep-2006

Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement, Completion of Acquisiti


Item 1.01 Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement.
On July 8, 2006, The FrontHaul Group, Inc., a Delaware corporation ("FHAL"), entered into an Agreement and Plan of Merger (the "Merger Agreement") with Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware corporation ("CVSU"). The Merger Agreement contemplates that, subject to the terms and conditions of the Merger Agreement, Conversion Solutions, Inc. will be merged with and into FHAL, with FHAL continuing after the merger as the surviving corporation (the "Merger").

Pursuant to the Merger Agreement, at the effective time of the Merger, each issued and outstanding share of common stock of Conversion Solutions, Inc. will be converted into the right to receive 1 shares of FHAL common stock, par value $0.001 per share (the "Exchange Ratio"), and each issued, outstanding, unexpired and unexercised CVSU stock option will be converted into FHAL stock options using the Exchange Ratio.

The Board of Directors (the "Board") and Majority shareholders of FHAL has unanimously approved the Merger Agreement. FHAL and CVSU have made customary representations, warranties and covenants in the Merger Agreement. FHAL's covenants include, among others, that (i) CVSU will conduct its business in the ordinary course consistent with past practice during the interim period between the execution of the Merger Agreement and the effective time of the Merger, (ii) FHAL will not engage in any types of transactions during such interim period,
(iii) FHAL and CVSU will not solicit proposals relating to alternative business combination transactions, and (iv) subject to certain exceptions, FHAL and CVSU will not enter into discussions concerning or provide confidential information in connection with any proposals for alternative business combination transactions.

FHAL and CVSU intend to file an S-4 registration statement / prospectus in connection with the proposed Merger for the registration of the CVSU share pursuant to the Merger agreement. Completion of the Merger is subject to customary closing conditions, including, among other things, (i) absence of any order or injunction prohibiting the consummation of the Merger; (ii) the accuracy of the representations and warranties of the each party; and (iii) compliance of each party with its covenants.

The Merger Agreement contains certain termination rights for both CVSU and FHAL, and further provides that, upon termination of the Merger Agreement under specified circumstances.

This description of the Merger Agreement is qualified in its entirety by the terms and conditions of the Merger Agreement, which is filed as Exhibit 2.1 hereto, and is incorporated herein by reference.

The Voting Agreements

In connection with the execution of the Merger Agreement, FHAL's executive officers and each member of the Board, in their capacities as stockholders, entered into a Voting Agreement with CVSU (each, a "Voting Agreement"), pursuant to which, among other things, each executive officer of FHAL and member of the . . .


Item 2.01 Completion of Acquisition or Disposition of Assets.
The Financial Accounting Standards Board's Interpretation No. 46, "Consolidation of Variable Interest Entities - an interpretation of ARB No. 51," (revised) ("FIN 46(R)") provides guidance on the identification of and reporting for variable interest entities. FIN 46(R) requires that a company consolidate a variable interest entity when the company is the primary beneficiary of the variable interest entity. The primary beneficiary of a variable interest entity is the party that absorbs a majority of the entity's expected losses, receives a majority of its expected residual returns, or both, as a result of holding a variable interest.

As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, the Company has concluded that it is the primary beneficiary of Conversion Solutions, Inc. as defined by FIN 46(R) and, therefore, will consolidate The FrontHaul Group, Inc and Conversion Solutions, Inc. financial results at the filing of the Company's Fourth quarter June 30, 2006 10KSB of fiscal 2005.


Item 2.02 Results of Operations and Financial Condition.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the Financial Statement of CVSU for the period of July 1, 2005 thru June 30, 2006, is attached hereto as Exhibit 9.1 and will be the starting point for the consolidated financial information that will be filed in the company's 10-K.


Item 3.01 Transfer of Listing.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving name of the corporation and trading symbol will be Conversion Solutions, Inc (OCT BB: CVSU).


Item 3.02 Unregistered Sales of Equity Securities.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the following securities are issued to the exiting officer per employment contracts;

(a) David Perley Operations Manager 2,000,000 Common Shares
(b) Randy Moseley Chief Financial Officer 1,000,000 Common Shares
(c) Jacquie O'Neill Account Manager 30,000 Common Shares
(d) Jerry Willeford Fleet Manager 20,000 Common Shares


Item 5.02 Departure of Directors or Principal Officers; Election of Directors; Appointment of Principal Officers.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving Directors and Officer of the Reorganized corporations are listed as follows:


Exiting Board of Directors
(a) Michael Alexander Chairman


Exiting Officers
(a) Michael Alexander Chief Executive Officer
(b) Randy Moseley Chief Financial Officer
(c) Jacquie O'Neill Account Manager
(d) Jerry Willeford Fleet Manager
(e) David Perley Operations Manager


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Surviving Board of Directors
(a) Rufus Paul Harris Chairman
(b) Ben Stanley Director
(c) Jerry Bivens Director
(d) John Walsh Director


Surviving Officers
(a) Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer
(b) Ben Stanley Chief Operating Officer
(c) Darryl Horton Chief Financial Officer
(d) Jerry Bivens Corporate Secretary
(e) Romeo Venditti Executive Vice President of Global Investements
(f) Sabra Dabbs Executive Vice President Investments
(g) John Walsh Executive Vice President Administrations

Rufus Harris - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer & President Mr. Harris is the Founder and originator of Waatle Holdings Corp, Arizona Corporation and Conversion Solutions, Inc a Delaware Corporation. The co-founder of Songwi Trust. His experiences range from high-end corporate financing to bond origination. Mr. Harris has facilitated and originated projects, corporate and bond financing for more than 10 years.

Ben Stanley - Director & Chief Operating Officer Mr. Stanley is the Founder and co-originator of Waatle Holdings Corp and CVSU and the co-founder of Songwi Trust. His experiences range from high-end corporate financing to bond origination. Mr. Stanley has facilitated and originated projects, corporate and bond financing for more than 15 years.

John Walsh - Director & Executive Vice President Administrations Mr. Walsh formerly served as Controller, Birmingham Southeast, LLC a subsidiary of Birmingham Steel Corporation. Prior to that, Mr. Walsh has more than 25 years of experience as a Controller and Administrator in several industries,
i.e., molded rubber, chemicals, fibers, PVC film, and consulting. His experience includes more than 18 years with Hoechst Corporation, a Fortune 100 Company, with ever-increasing responsibilities. He last served as Director of Financial Administration at the Hoechst PVC Film Division.

Darryl Horton, CPA - Chief Financial Officer Mr. Horton is a graduate of Accounting (cum laude) from Michigan State University and has an array of experiences that include fifteen years working as an executive with the State of Michigan. Mr. Horton has served State Government as Director of Internal Audits and he is currently the Director of the Division of Licensing & Certification, which is responsible for the monitoring and regulation of all of the state's hospitals and health facilities.

Darryl Horton has earned invaluable experience as a Certified Public Accountant for over fourteen years and as Founder and CEO of Horton & Associates, a public accounting firm specializing in corporate tax planning. As an Associate Member of the Certified Fraud Examiners and as a Certified Internal Auditor, Mr. Horton has developed and monitored budgets in excess of 250 million USD, focusing on analysis of internal controls and utilizing risk assessment tools for various organizations in both the private and public industry sectors.

Mr. Horton is a highly respected member of his community who serves as Audit Chair for the local chapter of the American Red Cross; he is a member of the National Association of Accountants and the Institute of Internal Auditors, in addition to participating on the boards of several other organizations and charities.

As Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Horton will provide corporate leadership by directing treasury activities and with coordination of budget programs. He will assess the financial impact of functional initiatives and generate creative solutions. Mr. Horton will formulate and optimize the capital and tax strategy of the company and will be responsible for financial reporting by developing objectives for establishing a reporting system with controls and safeguards to protect company assets.

Jerry Bivens -- Corporate Secretary
Mr. Bivens has a Masters of Education from University of Tennessee, and a Bachelor of Science from Tennessee Wesleyan College. His experience ranges from Director of Financial to Marketing Director for two publicly held companies. Mr. Bivens has taught at the United States Military Academy, WestPoint, University of Tennessee, Hiwassee College, and Tennessee Wesleyan College.


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Item 5.03 Amendments to Articles of Incorporation or Bylaws; Change in Fiscal Year.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving Articles of Incorporation is attached hereto as Exhibit 3.1.

As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving By-Laws is attached hereto as Exhibit 3.2.


Item 5.05 Amendments to the Registrant's Code of Ethics, or Waiver of a Provision of the Code of Ethics.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the company engages new Corporate Charters attached hereto as Exhibit 3.3.


Item 7. Financial Statements, Pro Forma Financial Statements and Exhibits.
(a) Financial Statements of Business Acquired.

A Un-Audited financial information required by this Item 7(a) has been included with this filing .

(b) Pro Forma Financial Information.

The pro forma financial information required by this Item 7(b) has not been included with this filing and will be filed by amendment to this Form 8-K not later than 60 days after the date this initial report on Form 8-K must be filed.


(b) Exhibits

The Following Exhibits are filed herewith:

Exhibit No. Description

2.1 Agreement and Plan of Merger, by and among FHAL and CVSU dated as of July 8, 2006
2.2 Form of Voting Agreement, by and among FHAL and CVSU dated as of July 8, 2006
2.3 Form of Affiliate Agreement
3.1 Articles of Incorporation
3.2 By-Laws
3.3 Corporate Charters
9.1 CVSU Un-audited financials for July1, 2005 thru June 30, 2006
99.1 Press Release dated June 11, 2005 by FHAL and CVSU announcing the Agreement and Plan of Merger.
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
I be the thied post on the new thread
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
shoulda mentioned the 10k in the thread title...

seeing as it's what we're awaiting with bated breath [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
10 hours, 20 minutes.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Yeah, but things get dated quickly BB. When the 10K comes out and we're waiting foe NASDAQ it will seem petty..LOL

Here's hoping anyway [Smile]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
everyone get rested we have a big day ahead...glta [Wink]
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
originally posted by chartwalker ::::


quote:
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Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Lets break this down for all those strugging to grasp the basic concepts:

The bonds are not real/owned by CSHD?

On March 15, 2006, the Company acquired full ownership of Global Bonds issued through the Republic of Venezuela with an issuance date of July 31, 1998 and a maturity date of August 15, 2018. The principal amount of the bonds is $500,000,000 USD with a fixed interest rate of 13.625%, computed on a semi-annual basis. The applicable identification codes are as follows: Common Code - 008975540; CUSIP - 922646AT1; & ISIN Code - US922646AT10. The first interest payment is due on August 8, 2006, in which interest receivable and revenue have been properly accrued, to the holders of the bonds (the Company).


The financials are not audited?

REPORT OF INDEPENDENT REGISTERED PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM

The Board of Directors and Stockholders of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.

We have audited the accompanying balance sheet of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. as of June 30, 2006 and the related statements of operations, and stockholders' equity (deficit) and cash flows, for the year ended June 30, 2006. These financial statements are the responsibility of the Company's management. Our responsibility is to express an opinion on these financial statements based on our audits. We conducted our audit in accordance with the auditing standards of the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (United States). Those standards require that we plan and perform the audit to obtain reasonable assurance about whether the financial statements are free of material misstatement. We were not engaged to perform an audit of internal control over financial reporting. Our audits include consideration of internal control over financial reporting as a basis for designing audit procedures that are appropriate in the circumstances, but not for the purpose of expressing an opinion on the effectiveness of the Company's internal control over financial reporting. Accordingly, we express no such opinion. An audit includes examining, on a test basis, evidence supporting the amounts and disclosure in the financial statements, assessing the accounting principles used and significant estimates made by management, and evaluating the overall financial statement presentation. We believe that our audit provides a reasonable basis for our opinion. In our opinion, the financial statements referred to above present fairly, in all material respects, the financial position of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. as of June 30, 2006 and the results of its operations and its cash flows for the year ended June 30, 2006 in conformity with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America. -S- Thomas Benson

CSHD has not got any cashflow?

The Company is the holder of a UCC Security Note (valued in excess of three hundred million USD), which was obtained as part of the merger with Waatle Holdings Corp. on June 17, 2005. The UCC Security Note was properly assigned to Waatle Holdings Corp. (assignee) on April 15, 2004 to be effective on May 27, 2004 from another company (assignor) in exchange for agreed upon consideration. The UCC Security Note is free and clear of all liens and encumbrances and the company has clear and marketable title to the assets securing the note. The assignor is a corporation organized and existing under the laws of the State of Washington and in good standing under the laws of such State. The value of the UCC Security Note is double collateralized, first by a federal judgment issued and second, by real property holdings appraised in excess of sixty million USD. The real property has been properly recorded as required by UCC Security statutes perfecting the interest of the assets, in accordance with the laws of the appropriate jurisdiction. The value components of the notes are as follows: $172,299,000 in principal and $137,839,000 in interest computed at 10%. The security note has a Certificate of Standing properly filed and recorded providing verification that there are no liens or other encumbrances against the note, and it is fully owned by the Company.

Total audited assets up to 30th June 06
$811,478,487

Lets keep bumping this page up for the benefit of newbies and skeptics alike!
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
This is going to be a week to remember...one way or the other! I'm ready for the GOOD TIMES !
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
holding tight, money is going to roll... [Smile]
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I'm sure I'll sound like a pumper, but really just want to throw a heads up to you CHSD guys that a similar situation is going on with AWYB.

Quick story: AWBV did a 5000:1 R/S and the flaot is now 2.8 million shares, but 32 million shares traded on 9/12 and many multiples of the float sinc then. Pre split price converted to .50, but it's still only trading at .40 (though already up a ton from when peope started to realize it)

Supposedly the CEO has ordered a NOBO report and is supposed ot get it tomorrow and PR the results on Tuesday.

If the numbers are anywhere near what people seem to think, this should be like CSHD but bigger. The float is only 2.8 mil vs 30 mil for CSHD andth CSHD short position was (I think) 1.5 times float, which people are estimating 8-10 times the float.

There's tons of info on the under .10 board, or PM me if you'd like more detail.

Good luck, regardless.

-PCola77
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
I'm sure I'll sound like a pumper, but really just want to throw a heads up to you CHSD guys that a similar situation is going on with AWYB.

Quick story: AWBV did a 5000:1 R/S and the flaot is now 2.8 million shares, but 32 million shares traded on 9/12 and many multiples of the float sinc then. Pre split price converted to .50, but it's still only trading at .40 (though already up a ton from when peope started to realize it)

Supposedly the CEO has ordered a NOBO report and is supposed ot get it tomorrow and PR the results on Tuesday.

If the numbers are anywhere near what people seem to think, this should be like CSHD but bigger. The float is only 2.8 mil vs 30 mil for CSHD andth CSHD short position was (I think) 1.5 times float, which people are estimating 8-10 times the float.

There's tons of info on the under .10 board, or PM me if you'd like more detail.

Good luck, regardless.

-PCola77

That isn't anything remotely like the situation here, except it is two companies who are checking their NOBO. Thanks for the info, no matter how unrelated.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ummm, no thx on the sex game investment there cola LOL

unless rufus decides he wants to add to his holdings [Wink]

g'nite all. wake me up if we get a late-nite PR!

~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
oh hey - does anyone notice the 10k extension doesnt show up under SEC filings for the company anymore and the 8k shows up "amended"? [Confused]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
oh hey - does anyone notice the 10k extension doesnt show up under SEC filings for the company anymore and the 8k shows up "amended"? [Confused]

really? Looking...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
at least in yahoo and in TDam
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
BB you had me there... Yahoo does not show more than one filing per day I think. (just guessing)

NT 10-K is on Edgar and SEC site.

http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?FilingID=4678248&Ty pe=HTML

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000067/cshdext-10k.htm
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
What's with all the RUDENESS lately?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
blah. friggin TDAm.

one person's rudeness is another's cordiality. [Wink]

gooooooodnite.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
"PAY IT FORWARD"!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
So what's up ya'll? Are we all rich yet, lol? I've been thinking about this the whole weekend...ya know spending the money before I have it...just like I know I'm not supposed to be doing. I'm 23 and it's still not quite registering...how great...and unbelievable this really is. I'm completely sold here...after reading the amended 8k, although I'd be lying if I said I wasn't before then anyway...

Someone mentioned something earlier about the 8k being a way to justify that it should have been trading at a higher price...I think there is something to that...with regards to moving to the NASDAQ...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
So Crab,
it looks like it's just you & me & I think I'm going to bed.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Good Night! GLTA!!! Go CSHD!!!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Good night. Dream of big $$$'s! [Smile]

[ October 02, 2006, 00:36: Message edited by: Vin ]
 
Posted by mo-rydr on :
 
Link to FORM 8-K/A:

http://xml.10kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=4408254">http://xml.1 0kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=4408254</a>
 
Posted by mo-rydr on :
 
Good morning all. As a recent new investor of CSHD (6K shares at blended $2.50) I have a sizeable investment (for me) without the luxury of 'free shares'. But I feel good about this stock and mostly have been trying to catch up with everyone else on the DD.

There is one little tidbit that I would like to share about TUT's latest post that I hope will add to the understanding of what he said. I am referring to this sentence, "The Phoenix will have revealed for all to see and there will be no doubt."

Now I do not claim to be an expert on this but I have done some study in the past on ancient forms of Figures of Speech. There is something conspicuously missing in that statement. Let me rephrase the statement so you will understand what I am talking about:

"The Phoenix will have revealed (what?) for all to see and there will be no doubt."

What is missing is the SUBJECT of the sentence. Now in ancient forms of Figures of Speech, when something is omitted on purpose that is supposed to be readily understood, it is done to EMPHISIZE the importance of it's meaning.

I think that most of you here have a better understanding than I of what the subject of this sentence is, so maybe someone can enlighten us noob's to it's conjectured meaning.


Quote:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen

With the "dawning of the new week" your eyes will be opened to many wonders. The Phoenix will have revealed for all to see and there will be no doubt. You will be through the gates of victory and there will be no turning back for there is so much more before you than you dreamed of.

You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish.

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Good Morning Board!
Got a pretty good feeling here... waiting for the revealing from the Phoenix's wings! Open up and lemme see please.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
good morning everyone. I hope we see something today. I hate this waiting game.
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
G'd Day Board,
Long Days and Pleasant Nights to the folks who have profited on this play by holding fast and strong in their belief and judgments on CSHD.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Good luck to all in the coming day.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Chart is IN THE HOUSE!!

Morning Board!!!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
good morning... Mo-ryder I beleive the subject matter in this case is the entire entity.

The whole of rufas' 2 years work will be revealed.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
If someone has a good "PRE-market" link please post it ~ [Smile]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Good morning all...

About to get the kids ready for school, but wanted to check in and say I have a good feeling about today...not sure when it will happen, but I believe something will happen today. GLTA. Will be back about the same time the market opens. Hopefully, there will be a nice PR waiting for me when I get to work. [Eek!]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hopefully we see the pr early this morning. I imagine it'll only be a pr about the 8-k. So hopefully that'll spark a little more buying this morning.
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hopefully we see the pr early this morning. I imagine it'll only be a pr about the 8-k. So hopefully that'll spark a little more buying this morning.

agreed. lets hope so. pr, then a 10K at 9:40 would be even nicer [Wink]
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Ok, lets do this. I have a business trip very soon. tick tock
 
Posted by mo-rydr on :
 
If King Tut has been as successful at "foretelling" the moves of the company (Rufus et. al.) as many here have attested to, just 4 fun, I'd like to do a run-down analysis on his latest offering.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen

With the "dawning of the new week" -> Loosly ~ early in this week. Specifically ~ early Monday morning

your eyes will be opened to "many wonders." -> We will see PR's & Filings

The Phoenix will have revealed (many wonders) -> The releasing of the PR's & Filings will have raised the Phoenix to soar.

for all to see and there will be no doubt. -> We will be in awe and full faith will be restored.

You will be through the gates of victory -> The battle will already be behind us in full victory.

and there will be no turning back -> It's a done deal and the door will be closed.

for there is so much more before you than you dreamed of. -> Any idea of walking away from this will become an absurdity for the greatness that lies ahead.

You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of. -> There will be no bagholders here, for those who had the faith and courage to hold will be rewarded.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish. -> Those who held are "in" and those who sold off are "out".

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash
__________________________________________________

And now for some FUN.... Here's King Tut


 -  -

Click on the link below to see SNL skit with Steve Martin

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x65ic_steve-martin-king-tut


 -
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Liv it mo-rydr!

My 2 cents on Tut's "Through the gates" is a listing on the NAZ.

As a penny player that is always the DREAM of your stock isn't it?.... [Big Grin]

-and we did have that NAZ PR too!!

I'm on the edge of my seat today folks!!!
GLTA!!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
no over nite news huh?

id like a PR for breakfast please [Smile]

45 minute countdown til i gotta leave. cmooooooon rufus!

g'morning y'allz!

here's one that'll have to hold yas for the day:

 -

YAY RAH RAH GO RUFUS!!!

~BB
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hey Gang!!!

Whats happenin?????


Walker!!!!

Whats goin on.... ?
I have been unable to take even a glantz at this, for the last few days....

Anything I should be aware of????

I will be unable to observe today as well....I'll be poppin in an out today....

Hey Mo!!!!(rydr) Welcome to the "Land of the lost"!!!!

Good post ( above ). I , Me, Myself, think that this Tut guy, is a complete lunitic... He is at the least, very entertaining.....

I am kinda thinkin that he left the subject outta the sentence because, he was "Huffin'", or maybe he ate all the "fourway" at one time,or maybe even the pure lack of oxygen (in the Tomb) has screwed up his brain..


Anyways,

Welcome!!!!

Walker!!!

Kick me back your thoughts!!!!

Oh ya!!!!

my "puter" Is TOAST!!!!!

I fried it ....BAD!!!!....

so I am on a little "Apple" lap top for a few days...

I won't be able to navigate a quick as before, and I do not have access to many tech tools.....

(hell of a time for that to happen, huh !)

Good luck all!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good morning Folks. No news yet? Well it's going to be interesting, thats for sure.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Good morning... raining here in Michigan. I home with the flu. Sitting in bed with the laptop and a glass of Alka Seltzer.

I'll try to stay conscious for the show.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mo-rydr:
If King Tut has been as successful at "foretelling" the moves of the company (Rufus et. al.) as many here have attested to, just 4 fun, I'd like to do a run-down analysis on his latest offering.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen

With the "dawning of the new week" -> Loosly ~ early in this week. Specifically ~ early Monday morning

your eyes will be opened to "many wonders." -> We will see PR's & Filings

The Phoenix will have revealed (many wonders) -> The releasing of the PR's & Filings will have raised the Phoenix to soar.

for all to see and there will be no doubt. -> We will be in awe and full faith will be restored.

You will be through the gates of victory -> The battle will already be behind us in full victory.

and there will be no turning back -> It's a done deal and the door will be closed.

for there is so much more before you than you dreamed of. -> Any idea of walking away from this will become an absurdity for the greatness that lies ahead.

You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of. -> There will be no bagholders here, for those who had the faith and courage to hold will be rewarded.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish. -> Those who held are "in" and those who sold off are "out".

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash
__________________________________________________

And now for some FUN.... Here's King Tut


 -  -

Click on the link below to see SNL skit with Steve Martin

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x65ic_steve-martin-king-tut


 -

Mo your into this now aren't you!!! you got cshd on the brain... WELCOME MY FRIEND!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rat man!! [Smile]

hey anything goes today, have to see...

We have Ben and Rufus that have said that the 10k WILL be filed on time.. (TODAY!!) -even your buddy Tut said that an extention is NOT needed ~

We had that NAZ PR, and remember all the talk about how everything is suppose to happen in one "swoop" ~

Well "IF"......
Rufus files the 10k with all our other bonds he will show that our stock price is worth WAY over $5 NAZ listing price, we COULD even reset today, if that happens alot of hedgefunds are going to get a MARGIN call and will HAVE TO cover driving our price up to insane levels...

-That's the upside...

Just waiting to see how Rufie plays this out...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Good morning... raining here in Michigan. I home with the flu. Sitting in bed with the laptop and a glass of Alka Seltzer.

I'll try to stay conscious for the show.

might work for your employer but come on you can't fool us! LOL
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Good morning all.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Premarket 2.45 x 2.45 and not moving. I agree chart we may have a reset if 10K is filed. The NAZ news was huge.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Good morning... raining here in Michigan. I home with the flu. Sitting in bed with the laptop and a glass of Alka Seltzer.

I'll try to stay conscious for the show.

might work for your employer but come on you can't fool us! LOL
No... seriously feel like I was beat down with a baseball bat.
I'm my own boss for the most part. When I'm not working... I'm not getting paid. No paid sick days here... unless CSHD does something magnificent.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I think it's still a little early to see any pre market moving. I was reading something over on ihub saying that all those 144's that were filed have disappeared? and somebody posted this response about it.

Posted by: gryfus
In reply to: liable who wrote msg# 89655 Date: 10/2/2006 8:46:17 AM
Post #

If you look at it, you'll see that yahoo data is referred to the last FHAL quarter (the one ended on march 2006).

As regards the 144, they disappeared since the completion of the merger, because after a material event like that all the owners of restricted shares have to file a 144 again to sell them. (but they cannot now because the restricted shares have been locked by the company).
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
We are going to see how the 8K was perceived right off the bat. If it upticks, I believe that we will have a slow day (believe it or not)If it starts downticking at all, I believe that we will see a morning drop, BUT we should see it level off somewhere and then climb back up. People know that the 10K filing will have people scattering to jump on board.

Those are my thoughts anyway.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus might allow some to "jump back in" today, gave us a pretty good scare Friday!

never know with this Rufus... One thing is for sure, those of us who have been in since the .10 days can see that he had a plan all along.

So I'm just watching the "SHO" [Big Grin] [Big Grin] LOL ~
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Good morning all just sitting and waiting just about another half hour good luck and lets see the miracle.......:0
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Good morning... raining here in Michigan. I home with the flu. Sitting in bed with the laptop and a glass of Alka Seltzer.

I'll try to stay conscious for the show.

might work for your employer but come on you can't fool us! LOL
LOL!!!

I was thinkin'he same thing!!!

Sounds like he's playen hookie to me...

Common dog!!!

Get yo' azz to work!!!

Nothin' to see here!!
hehehe!!!

Bye the way,, nice and dry down here in Toledo....
 
Posted by dog on :
 
tough crowd....
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
TaxBack, can you explain the difference to me? Assuming the AWYB CEO releases the NOBO that shows multiples of the float being owned, what's the difference? (Unless you are saying it's not the same since the NOBO list hasn't been published yet, then I understand where you're coming from, or if there is more to CSHD than the NOBO list. I was under the impression that the NOBO list was the big driver of the CSHD move, and apologize if that was incorrect.)

Either way, good luck to you all.

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
That isn't anything remotely like the situation here, except it is two companies who are checking their NOBO. Thanks for the info, no matter how unrelated.


 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Use to wear a Tshirt that said Cleveland you have to be tough.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
cola cshd just released audited financials saying the co. had $800million+ in assests.
 
Posted by mo-rydr on :
 
Quote:
a surfer

Mo your into this now aren't you!!! you got cshd on the brain... WELCOME MY FRIEND!!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

You got it bro, just thought I'd have some fun with it to start the day. GLTY
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Just got over a cold dog... it was hell!!

With this stock we've seen HUGE MM BS going on, and now I'm sure we'll see some more too, but the whole market now knows that we have our 8k!

-and more to come!!! The BIG ones..

So let's see what Rufus does.

Looking like he'll let some jump back in [Smile]

Wild ride ahead ~

But we know what we have!

GOLDEN SHARES!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Institutional investors free to invest now with audited financials for support... something wonderful may happen today.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
OKay, thanks for the info, I was under the impression that this was exclusively a short squeeze play. Sorry about that.

quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
cola cshd just released audited financials saying the co. had $800million+ in assests.


 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Was there any news of any kind this weekend????
If not, I think this will shake down some more ....

Maybe.... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
BxA $2.45 x $2.46

LOL, the tension mounts..... But the ask is upticking at least. Hopefully that is a clue.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Don't apologize!!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
just mentioned on stock alert... Man I thought it was the big one..........
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
rat they released an 8-k with audited financials. I would hope that'll help.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ok im off for the day.

can somebody email my phone when there's earthshattering news? like at 9:32am? [Big Grin]

have a good one everybody!
~BB
 
Posted by AC on :
 
mourinin all
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
It's almost time GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!!


How 'bout them Buffalo Bills!!!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
gapping up
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
slowly going up....come on news ooooo more now
 
Posted by AC on :
 
Whats everyone's prediction on the start of today?
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
The frenzy is on, moving it up some. [Smile]

2.49 x 2.55
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
boom!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
What's up everyone, I didn't sleep worth crap, so let's hope it was worth it. I do believe it will be. GBYA
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
How bout the cowboys ?? Wow what a hurt wonder what will happen with that it was uncalled for.... [Wink]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
oh sh*t there she goes
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
gapping hard and fast!!

Get'em while you can!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
we'll take care of you babe. gapping up a little
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
AC - Will go up & up , then if there's no news or 10K, it will slowly come down some Just my opinion!
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
ASK 2.60
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
5 MMs on 2.60.
 
Posted by AC on :
 
I agree Jenna, its is going to be anothor crazy day,

We need news is this will be a wild ride like thur or fri
 
Posted by joan32 on :
 
Goodmorning everybody!! Sitting tight today, hoping it goes as we hope. Good Luck to all!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
rat they released an 8-k with audited financials. I would hope that'll help.

When did that come out Ryan??

Sorry to be asken for this stuff Gang...

As I said earlier, I am on a loaner computer and have ZERO access to any of my programs...

I can't even get into my account for another hour or so....(long story)

Thanks....
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it came out friday night. They didn't pr it just filed it. So hopefully they'll pr it very soon.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 

 
Posted by AC on :
 
3 mins
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
MURF on Ask at $7
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Little gap here....looking good.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Good Morning Joan, Good Luck to you too!!!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Morning all! I have a meeting in a few but I'm otherwise here hopin' and prayin' for a good day and lots of paperwork...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Hey Sherri!!!! GLTY!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
30 seconds!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well here we go guys glta
no pre market pr hopefully it comes very soon.
 
Posted by mo-rydr on :
 
Here is the link rat...


http://xml.10kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=4408254">http://xml.1 0kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=4408254</a>
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I have an order in at 2.75 to buy, still hasn't filled yet
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
First battle is at $2.59.
 
Posted by beatheodds on :
 
AMTD have the close at 3.02, Thats BS it looks like it went down
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
What did this open at ???
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
who is QUIN?? Always on the bid... Anyone know
 
Posted by dog on :
 
.... and begin
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
L2s very thin!!!!
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
2.70
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Any chart readers wanna tell us what they see.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Still NO fill!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Hey Sherri!!!! GLTY!!

Ditto! I think I am sharing dog's pain this morning, except I am at work today [Frown]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
beat that is a bs move by the mm's I believe we are up almost .30 from the actual friday close.
 
Posted by joan32 on :
 
I beleive it opened at 2.59
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
2.75 Was that your fill Cassity
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
close was 2.45 as per scotty [Wink]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
OOOh Sherri!! Well, hopefully a nice cup of warm CSHD will make you feel better!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
we are up .32 right now.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
uhhh... damn
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Another reason it is bad to post your audited fins on Friday after hours. Even if you walk a check to your broker on Saturday, it doesn't post on your account Monday for the opening bell.

Oh well let's see what this will do today... my funds won't be available until tomorrow it appears. Good 10% gain on open...
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
2.83 x 2.65!!!!!!
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Should c $3 dollars VS
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
climbing fast!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Anyone seeing resistance on L*'s? Or is it to spastic to read?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
2.75 Was that your fill Cassity

Yep
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
$3
 
Posted by dog on :
 
3.00 rez
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
almost all buys today have been 2-4 cents above ask!!!!
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
3.00 to spastic for me
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Doncha just HATE typos? Somebody sold at 2.59 when the bid was 2.95 [Wink]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
uhh... nope
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Anyone seeing resistance on L*'s? Or is it to spastic to read?

Looks solid to me but im now at the L2s. Stumble at 3.50 maybe
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
That $3 didn't look like too much resistance to me [Big Grin]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok im off for the day.

can somebody email my phone when there's earthshattering news? like at 9:32am? [Big Grin]

have a good one everybody!
~BB

Have a super great day Babe! We will miss you.
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
This is crazy just move it to $45 a share
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
WOW... $3.10
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
holy chit!

I was chasing this at .10 HIGHer then bid and finally got filled at $3!!

Good luck buying in today ~ lol ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
l2's moving really fast hard to get feel.
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Anyone think we hit book value today? We should but i think MMs will keep screwing us!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
L2's are worthless on this stock IMO!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Battle at $3.15
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Anyone think we hit book value today? We should but i think MMs will keep screwing us!

BOTH
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
MY opinion....they are covering because of 8k and want to in case it is true but what do i know~LOL~ [Wink]
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
some really big buys going through
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Bounced off 3.13 wall.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
tears are rolling slowly out of my eyes... damn my central time bank... the funds didn't clear in my account:( EVERYONE SELL!!! I NEED A DIP TO ADD TO MY POSITION CHEAP! lol... j/k. guess i'll hafta pay for em:D
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Shake here.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
here's your dip... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
how low will they bring it???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Flipper mania going on right now. It bounced off $3.13-$3.15 twice and then people started the flip move.

If they would just let it run we would be sky high...
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
that's one hell of a shake...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Good mornin board ... this is it ... feelin' good! GLTA
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks like bottom!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha, gonna hafta wait a little longer... knowing scott, they won't get my funds in till after the bell like they usually do... ah well... not complaining on this end
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
that's one hell of a shake...

Well that was one hell of a run.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
you guys seeing the game playing in L2's?... (!!!)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wait for next run...

bringing it down some.

how is beyond me.... !~
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Not cool poolboy.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
support (intraday 1 min) at 2.65
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Unfortunately I got some more at 2.90
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
POOLBOY!! DUDE! SOME OF US ARE IN A OFFICE ENVIROMENT! Warn us before pulling stunts like that. NOT COOL!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
bids way above ask and they leave it sit there... more bs today..... [Frown]

Stochastic now in oversold [Smile]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
that's one hell of a shake...

Well that was one hell of a run.
True, but whoever is selling must not know how to read very well:) ie. 8K!!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
next run [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2.80 ress level
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Danny_K:
POOLBOY!! DUDE! SOME OF US ARE IN A OFFICE ENVIROMENT! Warn us before pulling stunts like that. NOT COOL!

Totally agree....not cool poolboy!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
looks like they're pulling out all the stops...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I can't believe they are walking this thing down....

2.65 support....
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
looks like they're pulling out all the stops...


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wtf... did they (are they) trying to fill the gap?

On that SUPER 8k we just had?!!

Come on.......
ress 2.80
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Hey all I'm not around my normal computer what's the reason for the flucuation?
Do you know if *** is up to their dirty quasai ilegal tricks?
Ima
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
this thing is jumping all over the place...2.83 just printed, looks to be going back up!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
mm's are cushoning the ride for the shorts ... soften the hit ... the best they can ... but, that doesn't change anything! Let's roll!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Broke resistance ChartW
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I can't even keep track it's jumping all over the place.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
that's one hell of a shake...

Well that was one hell of a run.
True, but whoever is selling must not know how to read very well:) ie. 8K!!!!!
Those that are selling do not read at all. Infact they think we are stupid for doing so.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
yep Don ~

should be going up...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Audited financials in the 8K on Friday caused the run. Flippers and MM's caused the retrace.

quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Hey all I'm not around my normal computer what's the reason for the flucuation?
Do you know if *** is up to their dirty quasai ilegal tricks?
Ima


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm surprised they haven't pr'd the 8k. They always put out a pr with the filing
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
someone at hsm is saying cshd is showing on pinks and nasdaq???!!!!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Maybe they want to wait until the price fluctuations slow down a litte Ryan. Or else they are so busy that they aren't even watching
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
per his conversation with etrade?!!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
dip again....... ~~~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I was thinking that also.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I'm surprised they haven't pr'd the 8k. They always put out a pr with the filing

my feeling is they have given people a fair chance, now they only want the faithful with them for the rest of the journery, JMO
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
If you're gonna flip, at least flip on the ask....
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?mode=stock&page=quick&symbol=cshd&symbol=&sym bol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&selected=cshd

not yet they're not...
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I'm surprised they haven't pr'd the 8k. They always put out a pr with the filing

Yo Ryan!
Accually they did PR the 8K (for some reason it doesn't pop up on all news alerts... but it's on Yahoo Finace under CSHD...
Let's roll
Come on with the big Daddy K
Ima
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
The folks that are naked short have such a high level of loss facing them....I sure will expect them to do all they can to limit their loss until the last minute......they just do not know when the last minute is........wish I had a crystal ball that would show us that minute....

...anyone getting any sniffs about a PR, or any one trying to talk with management at CSHD?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
actually college that's not a pr. It's the filing from edgars not from the pr newswire.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
remember support at 2.65
ress at 2.80
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Danny_K:
POOLBOY!! DUDE! SOME OF US ARE IN A OFFICE ENVIROMENT! Warn us before pulling stunts like that. NOT COOL!

Totally agree....not cool poolboy!
I have nevr been one to promote the Mods towards any One person..... I could change my mind on this one...

Poolboy you Dumb Azz!!!

Did you stop to think that a little kid may have been looking over Mom or Dads shoulder when that link connected???

PUTZ!!!!!!

Getum glassman!!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
someone at hsm is saying cshd is showing on pinks and nasdaq???!!!!!! [Wink]

Someone must be full of ****.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Or the boss at work! I think if ever a ban was needed that's one.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Luv I don't know how that would be for now until they can provide you solid info I'm throwing the bs flag on that one
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Although the name should have given it away.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
actually college that's not a pr. It's the filing from edgars not from the pr newswire.

Right you are! [Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I keep trying to call Ben S. & John W. & am getting Voice mail, want to ask about a PR!!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OK...If Maumee is commenting on the link...I guess it was pretty bad...glad I didn't click on it...I would be one of those with a little one looking over the shoulder...
Sounds like a bad call Poolboy...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i think everyone kinda glanced over this...no NASDAQ yet...

oh...and that link was a bit much...much too much...

quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?mode=stock&page=quick&symbol=cshd&symbol=&sym bol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&selected=cshd

not yet they're not...


 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Afraid to click on links now.
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
Good point. I know some people that trade with thier kids, because the kids are interested what thier parents do. Hopefully POOLBOY will just learn and move on.

Anyways, back to the main topic. CHART, has support moved up any? im assuming 2.80 is still res.?


quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Danny_K:
POOLBOY!! DUDE! SOME OF US ARE IN A OFFICE ENVIROMENT! Warn us before pulling stunts like that. NOT COOL!

Totally agree....not cool poolboy!
I have nevr been one to promote the Mods towards any One person..... I could change my mind on this one...

Poolboy you Dumb Azz!!!

Did you stop to think that a little kid may have been looking over Mom or Dads shoulder when that link connected???

PUTZ!!!!!!

Getum glassman!!!!


 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
I know I agree theres no solid proof just talk from one poster just thought id throw it out anyone with etrade might hear just in the wind! [Wink]
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Danny_K:
POOLBOY!! DUDE! SOME OF US ARE IN A OFFICE ENVIROMENT! Warn us before pulling stunts like that. NOT COOL!

Totally agree....not cool poolboy!
I have nevr been one to promote the Mods towards any One person..... I could change my mind on this one...

Poolboy you Dumb Azz!!!

Did you stop to think that a little kid may have been looking over Mom or Dads shoulder when that link connected???

PUTZ!!!!!!

Getum glassman!!!!

POOL BOY YOU ARE A SICK SICK FREAK....

That really was pretty bad, I am reporting you to the site owner and requesting you be banned.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
crazy up and down
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
don...
all intraday remember...

bottomed at about 9:55 at 2.65,
next bottom was 2.67

hoping this bottom will be higher yet!
looking like it will.

Need to put 2.80 behind us!
 
Posted by beatheodds on :
 
I guess the 8k was too long, and only ppl like us will actually read it to find out how good the company is. Without an PR stating was in the 8k ppl will not know. I guess we have to wait on the 10k for the BOOM!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The Gurl who's name we shall not speak here is actually trying to convince IHUB that "pumpers" are manipulating by buying above the ask.....
Wow, so now buying stocks is considered manipulation?????
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
2.90 looks nice...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
crazy up and down ...

what's it looking like Chart?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
chart~ your mailbox is full
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good Call ChartW. If the "bottom" rises all day then the war is being won. Just keep throwing out those 15 minutes techs whenever you feel like it. I like it.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think this is just BIG MONEY doing all that it can personally....

They are going to lose millions and millions when the margin call goes out.

Don't feel too bad for them, to join one of those hedges funds you must have 1 million $$$
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
chart~ your mailbox is full

k ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm mobile today...

dang charts went down again! fyi ~ pos!!!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Those buys above the ask? Some are sells above the ask - first hand knowledge. [Wink]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
chart the 50 and 200 ready to cross what can we expect??
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well I am at work but I am experienced enough to look at the link before clicking. I didn't remember what he said, but I do remember that any site called ************.com would probably not have a whole lot to do with trading.

POOLBOY really uncalled for IMO. Go post that crap on ISHLUB. it is not welcome here. Better yet don't post it at all.

[ October 02, 2006, 10:40: Message edited by: TaxBack04 ]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I'm mobile today...

dang charts went down again! fyi ~ pos!!!

Damn Dude!!! That puts both of us outta commision today....

Guess its up to someone else to do the chart chit today...

Common 10!!!

Lets see how much youve learned!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Eek!]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Well in my honest opinion. $2.87 is resistance right now...LOL.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
2.90 again
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Chart you need some more RAM if Prophet.net is crashing your system. I have been running it on several different systems with no issues... yet.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I think the Mods cleared that poolboy post out already Tax....

Thanks for the quick work mods!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ok... got charts back up... sigh ~~~
Looks great!
next big ress at $3!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Why up now... is there news?
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Now how do I clear it out of the server at work? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
where is the next res. level chart?? woohhooooo
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rat, that pool boy thing must have been bad.

I know we like to "joke" but there must be lines...

hey, $3 is coming and hopefully going!! ha ha ~~
 
Posted by AC on :
 
TO all my people in or watching cshd,

I have had a change of heart,

I don't think we are going to the Naddaq, if you follow my post you know ive been a supporter all the way. But as I take a look back, If this thing was going todo it, it would be today. ARE finacials are out and we are still at public value of 2.50-3.00

With the financials I expected to be at 3.5-4

We are no where ready for Nasdaq you need to be valued at $5 and have alot of things we don't have.

I AM NOT AN EXPERT, This is just my prediction. I think we are seeing are last big highs today.

So to all my CSHD friends, i finally out of this play.

I hope it gets listed for everyone who still has there stake.

I wish you all the best

Andy
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
FWIW... I'm seeing (from Scottrade's alerts postings that three (3)"newletters" are mentioning CSHD today, however each citation makes no mention of the 8-K, not the extension request that were filed Friday evening. They are from 1)redho tpenny stock.com, 2) The Street Review: OTC Monday stock alert, and 3)www.inv es torstockalert.com. Mainly the articles just reiterated the boilerplate text of who CSHD is and that the stock closed down to 2.45 on Friday's close.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
two 20,000 buys 3.00 and 3.01
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
2 25k (transactions) looked like buys to me imho
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ress 2.92
and 2.85
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
broke through the 2.92 pretty quick...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
What the Charts look like?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
some 50k trans just through at 3.00 and 3.01
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
2 50k transactions
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
steady uptrend from 10:07..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
rat, that pool boy thing must have been bad.

I know we like to "joke" but there must be lines...

hey, $3 is coming and hopefully going!! ha ha ~~

Ya !!! It was not in good taste walker...

It could have been kinda funny if it was put out under different circumstances... Or maybe in a lockerroom.... Not where kids could see it..

I am the master of sick humor, and it bothered me..

'nuff said....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
stochastic is overbought, the rest are positive,

going up I'd say dog..
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Back from the meeting - see you guys kept everything stable and ran off the perv...nice work on all accounts!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Nite not letting go at 3.00 what a richard cranium.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
rat, that pool boy thing must have been bad.

I know we like to "joke" but there must be lines...

hey, $3 is coming and hopefully going!! ha ha ~~

Ya !!! It was not in good taste walker...

It could have been kinda funny if it was put out under different circumstances... Or maybe in a lockerroom.... Not where kids could see it..

I am the master of sick humor, and it bothered me..

'nuff said....

that is enough said...

wow are they playing with this!
support 2.92 intraday...
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AC:
TO all my people in or watching cshd,

I have had a change of heart,

I don't think we are going to the Naddaq, if you follow my post you know ive been a supporter all the way. But as I take a look back, If this thing was going todo it, it would be today. ARE finacials are out and we are still at public value of 2.50-3.00

With the financials I expected to be at 3.5-4

We are no where ready for Nasdaq you need to be valued at $5 and have alot of things we don't have.

I AM NOT AN EXPERT, This is just my prediction. I think we are seeing are last big highs today.

So to all my CSHD friends, i finally out of this play.

I hope it gets listed for everyone who still has there stake.

I wish you all the best

Andy

-----------------------------

So how many of "your people" have you accumulated in your 35 posts over the last week? Am I missing something?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks like a dip now
2.86 supp
and 2.80
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
no one cared the first time it was posted...no need to repeat it...
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Bewary of sutble bashers today!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by AC:
TO all my people in or watching cshd,

I have had a change of heart,

I don't think we are going to the Naddaq, if you follow my post you know ive been a supporter all the way. But as I take a look back, If this thing was going todo it, it would be today. ARE finacials are out and we are still at public value of 2.50-3.00

With the financials I expected to be at 3.5-4

We are no where ready for Nasdaq you need to be valued at $5 and have alot of things we don't have.

I AM NOT AN EXPERT, This is just my prediction. I think we are seeing are last big highs today.

So to all my CSHD friends, i finally out of this play.

I hope it gets listed for everyone who still has there stake.

I wish you all the best

Andy

-----------------------------

So how many of "your people" have you accumulated in your 35 posts over the last week? Am I missing something?

Our financials are not out.... 5 billion left unaccounted...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
after this dip we'll have to put our sights on that $3 mark!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by AC:
TO all my people in or watching cshd,

I have had a change of heart,

I don't think we are going to the Naddaq, if you follow my post you know ive been a supporter all the way. But as I take a look back, If this thing was going todo it, it would be today. ARE finacials are out and we are still at public value of 2.50-3.00

With the financials I expected to be at 3.5-4

We are no where ready for Nasdaq you need to be valued at $5 and have alot of things we don't have.

I AM NOT AN EXPERT, This is just my prediction. I think we are seeing are last big highs today.

So to all my CSHD friends, i finally out of this play.

I hope it gets listed for everyone who still has there stake.

I wish you all the best

Andy

-----------------------------

So how many of "your people" have you accumulated in your 35 posts over the last week? Am I missing something?

Stop being a jerk. The guy didn't slam a thing. He simply indicated that he wasn't comfortable with the stock anymore. He did the right thing then and got out. He wished us luck. This thread is really starting to wear on me. I respect so many of you for your knowlege of stocks, etc., but jeez, stop slamming people.
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
true, but this is a professional board. I worried about the link a little, but i dont expect that stuff from a professional board. If this would have been a car forum, or somthing of that nature, i would have thought about it harder befor clicking. Either way, that doesnt matter. And tax, im sorry your experienced; i have been here about a year and never had that problem. I hope your not implying that we are inexperienced?

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well I am at work but I am experienced enough to look at the link before clicking. I didn't remember what he said, but I do remember that any site called ************.com would probably not have a whole lot to do with trading.


 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I was thinkin the same thing dog!!!

by the way....That rain made it to Toledo...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by AC:
TO all my people in or watching cshd,

I have had a change of heart,

I don't think we are going to the Naddaq, if you follow my post you know ive been a supporter all the way. But as I take a look back, If this thing was going todo it, it would be today. ARE finacials are out and we are still at public value of 2.50-3.00

With the financials I expected to be at 3.5-4

We are no where ready for Nasdaq you need to be valued at $5 and have alot of things we don't have.

I AM NOT AN EXPERT, This is just my prediction. I think we are seeing are last big highs today.

So to all my CSHD friends, i finally out of this play.

I hope it gets listed for everyone who still has there stake.

I wish you all the best

Andy

-----------------------------

So how many of "your people" have you accumulated in your 35 posts over the last week? Am I missing something?

Our financials are not out.... 5 billion left unaccounted...
Actually MORE then 5 Billion ~~~
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
This is going to be a long day.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2.66 support,...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus did say the 10k would be out on time so let's just keep watching the wires ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
This is going to be a long day.

No it's not!!!

I'm outta here for a bit....

Not gunna watch paint dry..

Later Gang!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
No problem here... guy was more than courteous.

Just that the true financials are not done... IMO
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
YOU GO VIN!!! This rudeness is getting out of hand!!! He was wishing us well. People can get in or out as they wish!!! He wasn't bashing!!! For God's sake this is America!! So everyone sip there coffee & take your Prozac, RELAX!
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Im no genius but he was bashing.. The same way he bashed it in every post he made in the other thread. In a subtle way, hopeing that people would take sympathy and follow his "worried" leads.

Many ways to bash.

.

Looks like were sticking around the 2.75 mark now :-/
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Sometimes a well wisher is a subtle basher. But lets not argue amongst ourselves. People are very sensitive here due the immense amount of bashing going on. and the big sums of money involved.

Peace be with you [Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Guess what? I didn't sell & I don't think Vin or anyone else sold because of what he said. It's all good.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looking like that was our bottom ~

remember head fakes!!
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Im no genius but he was bashing.. The same way he bashed it in every post he made in the other thread. In a subtle way, hopeing that people would take sympathy and follow his "worried" leads.

Many ways to bash.

lets DD this stock, not the members, I think it's why the other thread was closed, tooo rude.... [Smile]

.

Looks like were sticking around the 2.75 mark now :-/


 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
YOU GO VIN!!! This rudeness is getting out of hand!!! He was wishing us well. People can get in or out as they wish!!! He wasn't bashing!!! For God's sake this is America!! So everyone sip there coffee & take your Prozac, RELAX!

Thanks Jenna. I'm so glad that I'm not the only person feeling that way! We've got some extemely smart people posting here. Can we please just stick to the facts and not question every single person that questions anything about this stock. From what I've seen in the past, it's the "in your face" bashers that are the real bashers. The so called subtle bashers probably aren't bashers, but just someone who's questioning something. C'mon, you know a basher when you see one.

For the record, I'm still long on this stock in case you're wondering.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Agreed. Lets not pick apart those that dont want to make money [Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Gothcha Driver- back to the stock!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
 -

even the bears are getting a bounce
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Vin I question your questioning.....

Just kidding.......

$2.80 [Smile]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Vin I question your questioning.....

Just kidding.......

$2.80 [Smile]

LOL! Thank God you're kidding, I'm fighting the flu as it is and I wasn't up for more crap. [Smile]
 
Posted by AC on :
 
Thanks Vin,

I just can't risk the money I have in.

Other people may be in a diffrent financial situation.

I will still be watching and hoping for the best.

Good luck everyone
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Thanks AC! Good Luck to you too!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
3 of 4 poss now!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Good luck AC...Hope you made a little on this!
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Ok, so heres the scoop folks. Im leaving in a moment to head into the office. I will only be there a couple of hours so im not sure if ill be able to post there.

Im headed to the airport 2ish and depart for Germany at 5:21. Here is the real kicker, i wont be back until the 26th!! I will have a blackberry capable of trading and email but im not looking forward to it under these circumstances. [Smile]

Hang in there everyone. I might learn how to post via the blackberry, otherwise see ya'all in 3 and a half weeks!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
AC and his 35 posts... all but 5 being on this board will be missed.

What is up with people telling the board they are "out". UncleSmelly you like to do it. Why? The difference is Uncle Smelly has contributed alot more, and his jumping ship is kind of a good indicator of the street value of CSHD. AC has none of that.

I guess it is because people on the board press people so hard to know if they have a stake in this that when people no longer do they feel the need to tell us. Personally, I think you all could be liars, heck I could be lieing to myself. I mean I got Chart over there that is having "problems with his charts" LOL (sorry). 10of13 who acts all sweet and motherly and kind making us fried chiken, until she pulls out the strap-on and polishes it up. BB who claims to be a cool model but is really a DD artist with a 2 1/2" roommate. Rat who only posts when out on bail, or when given library privs. Wally who sits in the background soooo long his informative comments seem as anticipated as Tut... OHHHhhh! don't let me get started on Tut!!! The guy tells me that a mystical fire bird is going to fly out of his arse and "reveal all"!

Nope... I don't think any of us know how to tell the truth anymore. Sooo from now on I am going to listen to what you say do the exact opposite, and then tell you all that I am following the herd. Cause i know this is the only way we will all be doing the same thing. [Big Grin]

By the way if you ever sell your position. Unless your username is UncleSmelly don't bother telling the board. It will just us think you are trying to subtle bash this stock so you can get back in at a lower position or create some sort of tension on a security that really would be otherwise stress free. Heck we have audited fins. Baby! {que the Buffet music}

You got...
fins to the left.
fins to the right.
and your the only bait in town...

by the way everyone I am selling my entire position and buying back in after the reset. NOT!

GLTA!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
stay safe Catia!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Enjoy the trip!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Taxback is a subtle bashing pumper who has not got no stake in nothing thats not related to CSHD.

Is that clear to everyone????

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
See ya Cat! We'll hold down the fort.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Yes sir, more clear than my crystal ball [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
taxback.... -you dis'n me?......
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Taxback is a subtle bashing pumper who has not got no stake in nothing thats not related to CSHD.

Is that clear to everyone????

[Big Grin]

"No I am not!" which in real speak means... "Yes I most certainly am!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
taxback.... -you dis'n me?......

Common how could I not Skywalker... um I mean Chartwalker. You got no CHARTS! LOL you have to admit it is a bit funny. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
I do what I want...LOL... No one pays my bills, but I enjoy the company and info. If I can't find it I may ask for help and if I can help I will. But no matter what anyone says..I am a big girl and all my decisions are made on my dd, just cause someone has an opinion thats ok but don't freak out if it's not yours also. If you are scared it's okay, if you are certain it's okay too.. What happened to friendliness ignore them if they bother you ...sticks and stones.... love ya folks smile [Wink]
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
enguish plezzzee

quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Taxback is a subtle bashing pumper who has not got no stake in nothing thats not related to CSHD.

Is that clear to everyone????

[Big Grin]


 
Posted by AC on :
 
I think if you deliver good news to the board, especially about buying this or any stock, you can deliver the opposing side.

An negitave view isn't a bash,

its a point of view.

People do diffrent things for diffrent reasons.

THIS IS A MESSAGE BOARD.... not everyone is an expert... People make the worng choice all the time.

But Taxback you are rude.

I have always given my honest post on all 35 post (im sorry i dont have a 100 or a thousand) i guess in your eyes thats less valuable.

YOU PICK THE STOCKS YOU TAKE THE RISK.... IN THE END IT DOSENT MATTER WHAT I DO!

I'll be watching and if there is anything I can add to help this post I will, (although it seems everyone finds out info pbefore me anyway)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Wow Tax...A sweet and motherly fried chicken maker would not do the polishing...that was Maumee! [Wink]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i'd send you all to your corners, but the internet is round...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
lol glass too much!!!!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It is?

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i'd send you all to your corners, but the internet is round...


 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
AC and his 35 posts... all but 5 being on this board will be missed.

What is up with people telling the board they are "out". UncleSmelly you like to do it. Why? The difference is Uncle Smelly has contributed alot more, and his jumping ship is kind of a good indicator of the street value of CSHD. AC has none of that.

I guess it is because people on the board press people so hard to know if they have a stake in this that when people no longer do they feel the need to tell us. Personally, I think you all could be liars, heck I could be lieing to myself. I mean I got Chart over there that is having "problems with his charts" LOL (sorry). 10of13 who acts all sweet and motherly and kind making us fried chiken, until she pulls out the strap-on and polishes it up. BB who claims to be a cool model but is really a DD artist with a 2 1/2" roommate. Rat who only posts when out on bail, or when given library privs. Wally who sits in the background soooo long his informative comments seem as anticipated as Tut... OHHHhhh! don't let me get started on Tut!!! The guy tells me that a mystical fire bird is going to fly out of his arse and "reveal all"!

Nope... I don't think any of us know how to tell the truth anymore. Sooo from now on I am going to listen to what you say do the exact opposite, and then tell you all that I am following the herd. Cause i know this is the only way we will all be doing the same thing. [Big Grin]

By the way if you ever sell your position. Unless your username is UncleSmelly don't bother telling the board. It will just us think you are trying to subtle bash this stock so you can get back in at a lower position or create some sort of tension on a security that really would be otherwise stress free. Heck we have audited fins. Baby! {que the Buffet music}

You got...
fins to the left.
fins to the right.
and your the only bait in town...

by the way everyone I am selling my entire position and buying back in after the reset. NOT!

GLTA!

---------------

Exactly. Well put Taxback. I'm not trying to be a jerk or bring neagativity to the board, but it looked like polite bashing to me. I wouldn't have said that to the likes of Smelly. Back to lurking and GLTA.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I posted this on Ihub but figured I'd share..

Seriously folks, I am working on the screenplay for this one. All I need now is an ending.

Will it be a happy Jim Carey movie that ends with rich investors sipping drinks on a beach like in "Trading Places" with Eddie Murphy?

Or will it be a sour ending with everyone getting screwed but learning a lesson like in "Wall Street" with Charlie Sheen?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Back to the stock.........
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Hmmm, There is a new (old) PR which just showed up an Yahoo. It's dated today but actually from July talking about FHAL and the CVSU merger. Very strange...WTF. Anybody?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
WE just got a dog and she is enough to strain my strength already over the boards and shes only 1 year old....sitting in my corner~LOL~ lab collie mix
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
BBBIIIGGGG difference from my long haired chiuhauha the mighty man!!!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Stockstar...not sure what you are talking about..
can you post a link?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
10K would be nice for lunch......
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
Hmmm, There is a new (old) PR which just showed up an Yahoo. It's dated today but actually from July talking about FHAL and the CVSU merger. Very strange...WTF. Anybody?

I don't see it...???
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
can someone turn the volume back on?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
taxback.... -you dis'n me?......

Common how could I not Skywalker... um I mean Chartwalker. You got no CHARTS! LOL you have to admit it is a bit funny. [Big Grin]
???
When I'm away from my house and have to use this low memory POS it isn't funny to me when it freezes up...

I suppose if I closed the Allstocks window that it would help "me" with the memeory problem.

-don't know what's going on, but I don't like what I'm hearing.... wtf?...
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
What I find so interesting in all of this is we KNOW there are lots more shorts that have to cover, and these prices are a lot better than what they will likely see, so WHY AREN'T THEY COVERING? The 10K hasn't been filed, but they have seen the fins in an 8K - that is about as official as you can get without the 10K...it's almost like he gave them one last warning...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Sherri, I'm not sure they aren't covering...the MM's have been letting it run...daytraders grabbin' and then they walk it down...and grab shares...they may just be doing it little by little and day by day...but I would think that half of the days volume ends up in the hands of the MM's...IMO...and I could be way off...
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
What I find so interesting in all of this is we KNOW there are lots more shorts that have to cover, and these prices are a lot better than what they will likely see, so WHY AREN'T THEY COVERING? The 10K hasn't been filed, but they have seen the fins in an 8K - that is about as official as you can get without the 10K...it's almost like he gave them one last warning...

some of us (not me) have made 6 and 7 figures profit. Now imagine shorty, he is 6 and 7 fingures in debt, his life is almost ruined, maybe some of them have a "nothing to lose" attitude?? I dont know. Or maybe some of them think its going to tank still. I dont know. It is a puzzeling question.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i'd send you all to your corners, but the internet is round...

LOL... I was trying to think of something funny to say about the glassman during that post... I think you just did it for me.

The patriarch with a firm grip on the switch... [Big Grin]

UncleSmelly should not be offended. He has left and comeback three times already. he is an awesome weather guage. [Smile]
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Stockstar...not sure what you are talking about..
can you post a link?

Here's the strange PR...from Yahoo under CSHD dated 9/29/06.

Form 8-K/A for FURIA ORGANIZATION INC /DE/


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

29-Sep-2006

Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement, Completion of Acquisiti


Item 1.01 Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement.
On July 8, 2006, The FrontHaul Group, Inc., a Delaware corporation ("FHAL"), entered into an Agreement and Plan of Merger (the "Merger Agreement") with Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware corporation ("CVSU"). The Merger Agreement contemplates that, subject to the terms and conditions of the Merger Agreement, Conversion Solutions, Inc. will be merged with and into FHAL, with FHAL continuing after the merger as the surviving corporation (the "Merger").

Pursuant to the Merger Agreement, at the effective time of the Merger, each issued and outstanding share of common stock of Conversion Solutions, Inc. will be converted into the right to receive 1 shares of FHAL common stock, par value $0.001 per share (the "Exchange Ratio"), and each issued, outstanding, unexpired and unexercised CVSU stock option will be converted into FHAL stock options using the Exchange Ratio.

The Board of Directors (the "Board") and Majority shareholders of FHAL has unanimously approved the Merger Agreement. FHAL and CVSU have made customary representations, warranties and covenants in the Merger Agreement. FHAL's covenants include, among others, that (i) CVSU will conduct its business in the ordinary course consistent with past practice during the interim period between the execution of the Merger Agreement and the effective time of the Merger, (ii) FHAL will not engage in any types of transactions during such interim period,
(iii) FHAL and CVSU will not solicit proposals relating to alternative business combination transactions, and (iv) subject to certain exceptions, FHAL and CVSU will not enter into discussions concerning or provide confidential information in connection with any proposals for alternative business combination transactions.

FHAL and CVSU intend to file an S-4 registration statement / prospectus in connection with the proposed Merger for the registration of the CVSU share pursuant to the Merger agreement. Completion of the Merger is subject to customary closing conditions, including, among other things, (i) absence of any order or injunction prohibiting the consummation of the Merger; (ii) the accuracy of the representations and warranties of the each party; and (iii) compliance of each party with its covenants.

The Merger Agreement contains certain termination rights for both CVSU and FHAL, and further provides that, upon termination of the Merger Agreement under specified circumstances.

This description of the Merger Agreement is qualified in its entirety by the terms and conditions of the Merger Agreement, which is filed as Exhibit 2.1 hereto, and is incorporated herein by reference.

The Voting Agreements

In connection with the execution of the Merger Agreement, FHAL's executive officers and each member of the Board, in their capacities as stockholders, entered into a Voting Agreement with CVSU (each, a "Voting Agreement"), pursuant to which, among other things, each executive officer of FHAL and member of the . . .


Item 2.01 Completion of Acquisition or Disposition of Assets.
The Financial Accounting Standards Board's Interpretation No. 46, "Consolidation of Variable Interest Entities - an interpretation of ARB No. 51," (revised) ("FIN 46(R)") provides guidance on the identification of and reporting for variable interest entities. FIN 46(R) requires that a company consolidate a variable interest entity when the company is the primary beneficiary of the variable interest entity. The primary beneficiary of a variable interest entity is the party that absorbs a majority of the entity's expected losses, receives a majority of its expected residual returns, or both, as a result of holding a variable interest.

As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, the Company has concluded that it is the primary beneficiary of Conversion Solutions, Inc. as defined by FIN 46(R) and, therefore, will consolidate The FrontHaul Group, Inc and Conversion Solutions, Inc. financial results at the filing of the Company's Fourth quarter June 30, 2006 10KSB of fiscal 2005.


Item 2.02 Results of Operations and Financial Condition.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the Financial Statement of CVSU for the period of July 1, 2005 thru June 30, 2006, is attached hereto as Exhibit 9.1 and will be the starting point for the consolidated financial information that will be filed in the company's 10-K.


Item 3.01 Transfer of Listing.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving name of the corporation and trading symbol will be Conversion Solutions, Inc (OCT BB: CVSU).


Item 3.02 Unregistered Sales of Equity Securities.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the following securities are issued to the exiting officer per employment contracts;

(a) David Perley Operations Manager 2,000,000 Common Shares
(b) Randy Moseley Chief Financial Officer 1,000,000 Common Shares
(c) Jacquie O'Neill Account Manager 30,000 Common Shares
(d) Jerry Willeford Fleet Manager 20,000 Common Shares


Item 5.02 Departure of Directors or Principal Officers; Election of Directors; Appointment of Principal Officers.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving Directors and Officer of the Reorganized corporations are listed as follows:


Exiting Board of Directors
(a) Michael Alexander Chairman


Exiting Officers
(a) Michael Alexander Chief Executive Officer
(b) Randy Moseley Chief Financial Officer
(c) Jacquie O'Neill Account Manager
(d) Jerry Willeford Fleet Manager
(e) David Perley Operations Manager


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Surviving Board of Directors
(a) Rufus Paul Harris Chairman
(b) Ben Stanley Director
(c) Jerry Bivens Director
(d) John Walsh Director


Surviving Officers
(a) Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer
(b) Ben Stanley Chief Operating Officer
(c) Darryl Horton Chief Financial Officer
(d) Jerry Bivens Corporate Secretary
(e) Romeo Venditti Executive Vice President of Global Investements
(f) Sabra Dabbs Executive Vice President Investments
(g) John Walsh Executive Vice President Administrations

Rufus Harris - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer & President Mr. Harris is the Founder and originator of Waatle Holdings Corp, Arizona Corporation and Conversion Solutions, Inc a Delaware Corporation. The co-founder of Songwi Trust. His experiences range from high-end corporate financing to bond origination. Mr. Harris has facilitated and originated projects, corporate and bond financing for more than 10 years.

Ben Stanley - Director & Chief Operating Officer Mr. Stanley is the Founder and co-originator of Waatle Holdings Corp and CVSU and the co-founder of Songwi Trust. His experiences range from high-end corporate financing to bond origination. Mr. Stanley has facilitated and originated projects, corporate and bond financing for more than 15 years.

John Walsh - Director & Executive Vice President Administrations Mr. Walsh formerly served as Controller, Birmingham Southeast, LLC a subsidiary of Birmingham Steel Corporation. Prior to that, Mr. Walsh has more than 25 years of experience as a Controller and Administrator in several industries,
i.e., molded rubber, chemicals, fibers, PVC film, and consulting. His experience includes more than 18 years with Hoechst Corporation, a Fortune 100 Company, with ever-increasing responsibilities. He last served as Director of Financial Administration at the Hoechst PVC Film Division.

Darryl Horton, CPA - Chief Financial Officer Mr. Horton is a graduate of Accounting (cum laude) from Michigan State University and has an array of experiences that include fifteen years working as an executive with the State of Michigan. Mr. Horton has served State Government as Director of Internal Audits and he is currently the Director of the Division of Licensing & Certification, which is responsible for the monitoring and regulation of all of the state's hospitals and health facilities.

Darryl Horton has earned invaluable experience as a Certified Public Accountant for over fourteen years and as Founder and CEO of Horton & Associates, a public accounting firm specializing in corporate tax planning. As an Associate Member of the Certified Fraud Examiners and as a Certified Internal Auditor, Mr. Horton has developed and monitored budgets in excess of 250 million USD, focusing on analysis of internal controls and utilizing risk assessment tools for various organizations in both the private and public industry sectors.

Mr. Horton is a highly respected member of his community who serves as Audit Chair for the local chapter of the American Red Cross; he is a member of the National Association of Accountants and the Institute of Internal Auditors, in addition to participating on the boards of several other organizations and charities.

As Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Horton will provide corporate leadership by directing treasury activities and with coordination of budget programs. He will assess the financial impact of functional initiatives and generate creative solutions. Mr. Horton will formulate and optimize the capital and tax strategy of the company and will be responsible for financial reporting by developing objectives for establishing a reporting system with controls and safeguards to protect company assets.

Jerry Bivens -- Corporate Secretary
Mr. Bivens has a Masters of Education from University of Tennessee, and a Bachelor of Science from Tennessee Wesleyan College. His experience ranges from Director of Financial to Marketing Director for two publicly held companies. Mr. Bivens has taught at the United States Military Academy, WestPoint, University of Tennessee, Hiwassee College, and Tennessee Wesleyan College.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Item 5.03 Amendments to Articles of Incorporation or Bylaws; Change in Fiscal Year.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving Articles of Incorporation is attached hereto as Exhibit 3.1.

As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving By-Laws is attached hereto as Exhibit 3.2.


Item 5.05 Amendments to the Registrant's Code of Ethics, or Waiver of a Provision of the Code of Ethics.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the company engages new Corporate Charters attached hereto as Exhibit 3.3.


Item 7. Financial Statements, Pro Forma Financial Statements and Exhibits.
(a) Financial Statements of Business Acquired.

A Un-Audited financial information required by this Item 7(a) has been included with this filing .

(b) Pro Forma Financial Information.

The pro forma financial information required by this Item 7(b) has not been included with this filing and will be filed by amendment to this Form 8-K not later than 60 days after the date this initial report on Form 8-K must be filed.


(b) Exhibits

The Following Exhibits are filed herewith:

Exhibit No. Description

2.1 Agreement and Plan of Merger, by and among FHAL and CVSU dated as of July 8, 2006
2.2 Form of Voting Agreement, by and among FHAL and CVSU dated as of July 8, 2006
2.3 Form of Affiliate Agreement
3.1 Articles of Incorporation
3.2 By-Laws
3.3 Corporate Charters
9.1 CVSU Un-audited financials for July1, 2005 thru June 30, 2006
99.1 Press Release dated June 11, 2005 by FHAL and CVSU announcing the Agreement and Plan of Merger.

[ October 02, 2006, 12:00: Message edited by: Stockstar69 ]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Where is the bottom guys? I hope a panic doesn't ensue.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
taxback.... -you dis'n me?......

Common how could I not Skywalker... um I mean Chartwalker. You got no CHARTS! LOL you have to admit it is a bit funny. [Big Grin]
???
When I'm away from my house and have to use this low memory POS it isn't funny to me when it freezes up...


I suppose if I closed the Allstocks window that it would help "me" with the memeory problem.

-don't know what's going on, but I don't like what I'm hearing.... wtf?...

Calm down I am just messing with ya. appologies all around. Someone said let's get back on the stock. I agree. Sorry for you chart pains. Wish I could help ya out. Honestly.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Someone keeps screaming about the Yahoo noitce os an Edgar filing. it is "not a PR", it is notification of and 8KA filing from Edgar listed in the Yahoo News only. It has been there since Friday late afternoon.

I hate that Yahoo does that it looks really confusing.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
It's awefully quiet out there...some would say too quiet. What do you guys think is happening? Calm before the storm (10-k), or is panic about to set in like Friday?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2.66 next ress point...
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Chart...thoughts? I bought more at $2.70 this morning and am starting to think I should have held off until later today.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I hope no panic today....I would think that everyone is waiting on some word from Rufus, but some are starting to believe that it won't come. Thats why we are seeing the slow decline.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
St. Matthew, I attempted to contact Ben, Rufus and Mitch all weekend with no joy. They are not answering my calls today either so I guess the next time we will hear from them is the 10K filing, hopefully soon!
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
Can anyone recommend a good, convenient online broker, with pros/cons? I'm tired of the way TD Ameritrade is controlling my activity regarding this stock.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good call ChartW. It seems to have bounced off $2.66 for the time being.

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
2.66 next ress point...


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
for the pennies I like Choicetrade...I think that BB just switched to there also..


quote:
Originally posted by Lauralai:
Can anyone recommend a good, convenient online broker, with pros/cons? I'm tired of the way TD Ameritrade is controlling my activity regarding this stock.


 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
We need to hear something today from Rufus...period. Otherwise, people will start loosing faith in this. Not good for those who just bought in. Not good for TUT either. LOL...gotta go to a company lunch. Be back in a little over an hour.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
I use choice trade for trading pennies. They are very fast and each transaction is only $5, no limits...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Don'y feel bad StM.
I bought another tiny chunck at $3!

Still WAY up, but wth is going on?

I'm getting a little p'd...

It's about to the point now where Rufus can file the dang 10k and let everyone have their life back ~

Good thing we KNOW what this company has, and it's about time this stinking thing bounces off of a support rather then goese through it!!

Are they still trying to close the gap?!! ~~~

Next big support intraday IS 2.43 (SOB)....

But ay least we look to be going up for the moment...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lauralai:
Can anyone recommend a good, convenient online broker, with pros/cons? I'm tired of the way TD Ameritrade is controlling my activity regarding this stock.

report them to the NASD here...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Honestly, if the happenings surround this stock were not so interesting. I would just turn off all these monitors and let it ride. "We have audited fins!" It is like owning a big bag of coal, looking in and realizing someone actually filled the bag with diamonds instead.

Just hold on to your bag... I think someone is gonna see the value of it's contents real soon. [Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
How's the cult today, closer to $54?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Lunchtime Dip + No 10k = Not Good!!! Guys this is a no brainer. The longer this goes with no news the worse it looks!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
"Typo King" I am [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] !!!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
for the pennies I like Choicetrade...I think that BB just switched to there also..


quote:
Originally posted by Lauralai:
Can anyone recommend a good, convenient online broker, with pros/cons? I'm tired of the way TD Ameritrade is controlling my activity regarding this stock.


As did I.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Speaking of brokers... Choicetrade have charts? What kind?

Also, if anyone's account goes OVER $25,000.00 you can update your platform!! Scotty has their ELITE edition.... FYI ~

Try you will like! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
we've slowed down quite a bit I see.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
I'm not sure Chart, I use charts from my USAA account. I'll get back to you...
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Repo how's your FRPT doing? 10.50 yet
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
Thanks for the input everyone! I've done a little research already, and it looks like I'll be following the crowd on this one-Choicetrade it is!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
I'm not sure Chart, I use charts from my USAA account. I'll get back to you...

thx ~

Cause I hate having charts at OptionXpress and accounts at Scotty, -everything here plays out right my butt is going to Tradestation!

No more pissing around...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Repo...Salt in wounds....Nice....

The days not over...Besides all I see so far is an 11% rise. Its funny how people try to make a run that retraces back but is still green as a negative.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha, unbelievable... ask and you shall receive i guess... walked it down like this and now it's sitting... checked my bank account and the transfer has taken place... tick tock tick tock c'mon scotty!!!! lol

oh yeah 10... you asked if i played xkem, didn't get on that wagon... maybe next time
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Not quite there yet...but it's been great tryng...maybe we need more sugar in the cool-aid...

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
How's the cult today, closer to $54?


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Repo how's your FRPT doing? 10.50 yet

Nope. Probably not until end of this month, although news was just released if you're interested.

Force Protection, Inc. Breaks Production Records in September
Monday October 2, 12:10 pm ET


LADSON, S.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Armored vehicle manufacturer Force Protection, Inc. (OTCBB:FRPT - News) exceeded production records in September as it delivered more than 30 of its Buffalo, Cougar Joint Explosive Ordnance Disposal Rapid Response (JERRV), and Iraqi Light Armored (ILAV) vehicles to the U.S. government.

"In addition to our September vehicle deliveries, we have also verified the successful integration of improved materials such as domestic steel for the JERRV and Buffalo vehicles," said Vice President for Program Management Damon Walsh. "The effect of this testing is to increase the availability of raw materials for vehicle production, which in turn enhances our ability to increase production to meet customer demand."

Force Protection vehicles have been deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2003 without a fatality to a passenger. This unmatched record of success has led to major contract awards from U.S. and Coalition governments who recognize the vital role of the vehicles for their armed forces.

"Force Protection continues to experience the fruits of its efforts to ramp up production of these life-saving vehicles," said CEO Gordon McGilton. "We are currently ahead of schedule in deliveries of the Cougar JERRV and are on track with our Buffalo and ILAV programs. We are fulfilling our commitment to get the highest levels of protection available to the field as quickly as possible."
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
nice dip here.... not! [Frown]

Knock -knock -knock... Ummm, Rufus can you get up now and file that 10k please?....

looks like they will try to close the gap ~
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
JHenry- You there?
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
JHenry- You there?

I'm here - just watching - looking to buy some more - but just watching right now.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I wanted to know if you bought more but I guess you answered my question.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
nice dip here.... not! [Frown]

Knock -knock -knock... Ummm, Rufus can you get up now and file that 10k please?....

looks like they will try to close the gap ~

Things will look up.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
pretty bid spread right now.
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
I'm waiting a little while to buy - if the 10-K gets significantly delayed I think support may erode and I might have a good buying opportunity. A PR is next on the list TaxBack has per Rufus's timeline.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
anything?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
not really. everybody seems to have disappeared.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
nada
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm waiting for a volume surge, hoping that it will be "news out"

We know it's coming.
And I would be disappointed if it's not today....
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
volume drying up....?
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I am still here. not playing any other stock right now.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Guys, keep getting recordings when CSHD is called..... Anybody else trying?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I still do not have my funds in place this morning, but honestly after looking at the chart last night I was hoping like mad to get in "alot" lower than it currently is.

I have about 4 buy points picked out and we really have been bouncing around two of the higher values. No worries, St. Matt, if my funds would have been ready at the bell with my patience I would have placed my buy at $2.75 too. I am not going to say what my lowest buy point was because I think it best we don't mention prices that low right now but if we don't get any PR or 10K soon we may see it. Chart may see what I was seeing last night but all in all we are sitting on a really good thing here, I do not expect to see a "sale price" like this in another security for along time to come.
 
Posted by beatheodds on :
 
Has anyone called today? to see what they say.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
mmm ok. lunch break here.

the silent calm before the snakebite? hisssssssssss [Wink]

cheerleaders went to lunch so you're stuck with these guys:


 -

YAY RAH RAH CMOOOOOON RUFUS!!!

~BB
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
after a fair amount of buys at 2.75 they knock down to 2.74.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm back from lunch and see nothing but buys coming through, yet we trade sideways. Weird.
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
I feel much more comfortable now that the 8-K is out showing excellent value. The 8-K needs some news and PR. It gets me when "those" websites bash and slam the PR's when there are no filings to support it and then when a filing is there to support it they say nothing.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I'm back from lunch and see nothing but buys coming through, yet we trade sideways. Weird.

Just another "normal" day.... ha ~~
-something else huh?!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
just out of morbid curiosity. Has anyone tuned into mn 1 the other day of the fiasco. the analyst said he was dying to see audited financials. Now they're out there I wondered if commented on it at all.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Beattheodds, I've been trying to call with no success- just recordings- others that I know that own the stock too have tried calling & get recordings also.
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I'm still here - actually trying to get some work done while the volume and news is dead...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Geeze BB I've been seeing these guys all day

Chart, Tax, Maumee and Doni...

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
mmm ok. lunch break here.

the silent calm before the snakebite? hisssssssssss [Wink]

cheerleaders went to lunch so you're stuck with these guys:


 -

YAY RAH RAH CMOOOOOON RUFUS!!!

~BB


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
what do you think 2:30 10k
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I absolutely have no idea surfer. not a clue feeling nothing and it irritates me.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm the good looking one.....

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Geeze BB I've been seeing these guys all day

Chart, Tax, Maumee and Doni...

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
mmm ok. lunch break here.

the silent calm before the snakebite? hisssssssssss [Wink]

cheerleaders went to lunch so you're stuck with these guys:


 -

YAY RAH RAH CMOOOOOON RUFUS!!!

~BB



 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
IMO...after the bell...IF it comes today...


quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
what do you think 2:30 10k


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JHenry:
I feel much more comfortable now that the 8-K is out showing excellent value. The 8-K needs some news and PR. It gets me when "those" websites bash and slam the PR's when there are no filings to support it and then when a filing is there to support it they say nothing.

My point exactly JH this is a valuable comodity, that no one knows about yet. I do not mind that the daytraders are getting bored with it and running elsewhere. I think we will get a heck of alot more meat out of the next PR than just "Hey look we audited our fins!".

Maybe something like. "We are filing our 10K today and by the way we have become 25,000% bigger with the reverse merger and here are our audited fins to prove it. Don't mind us while we reset this price here." LOL
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Has anybody else tried to call the company?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I absolutely have no idea surfer. not a clue feeling nothing and it irritates me.

Take a deep breath my friend.. Innnnn out.. Ahhh
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doni? Did you LOOK at the guys? But I am sure ya'll have great personalities...LOL


quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I'm the good looking one.....

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Geeze BB I've been seeing these guys all day

Chart, Tax, Maumee and Doni...

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
mmm ok. lunch break here.

the silent calm before the snakebite? hisssssssssss [Wink]

cheerleaders went to lunch so you're stuck with these guys:


 -

YAY RAH RAH CMOOOOOON RUFUS!!!

~BB




 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
that'd be a nice pr tax. I vote for that one
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Doni? Did you LOOK at the guys? But I am sure ya'll have great personalities...LOL


quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I'm the good looking one.....

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Geeze BB I've been seeing these guys all day

Chart, Tax, Maumee and Doni...

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
mmm ok. lunch break here.

the silent calm before the snakebite? hisssssssssss [Wink]

cheerleaders went to lunch so you're stuck with these guys:


 -

YAY RAH RAH CMOOOOOON RUFUS!!!

~BB




Looks like there are TWO of me!!! LOL ~
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
what do you think 2:30 10k

Sounds like a good prediction to me, or maybe a little earlier if he wants a good run before halting us HINT HINT HINT RUFUS!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Lol you guys are funny. We won't see anything today, and most likely nothing in after hours. be patient.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Doni? Did you LOOK at the guys? But I am sure ya'll have great personalities...LOL


quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I'm the good looking one.....

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Geeze BB I've been seeing these guys all day

Chart, Tax, Maumee and Doni...

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
mmm ok. lunch break here.

the silent calm before the snakebite? hisssssssssss [Wink]

cheerleaders went to lunch so you're stuck with these guys:


 -

YAY RAH RAH CMOOOOOON RUFUS!!!

~BB




Looks like there are TWO of me!!! LOL ~
Looks to me like they are singing YMCA...YMCA LOL
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys, keep getting recordings when CSHD is called..... Anybody else trying?

I would not be surprised. My office would not answer if I had us for shareholders and they are likely really really busy.

Let them work for us.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
another dip...Ugh
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
what do you think 2:30 10k

Expect it when you see it...not before.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Ok Portman- I hear ya - just getting a little antsy because I've owned a few businesses & I only had about 10 employees on at a time & no matter how busy we were we answered the phone because it could be a client. So that's why I was a little concern- thanks for your input. Appreciated!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well I hate to say this but it doesn't look like there's any buying pressure.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i kinda like this. rufus has got everybody where he wants them - on edge.
totally unpredictable, and i think thatll work in our favor in the end.

*ding* my time is up, ciao for niao [Smile]

~BB
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'll be happy if we end up in the 2.75 range today.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Bye BB. Get yourself all Dolled up for TV. Tell Spielberg I said "Happy Yom Kippur".
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
are we going to test that 2.66 level again?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey did we pick up a new MM. My l2's are showing 46 mm's on the buy and ask. The last few days it was at 45mms or less?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
By the letter of the law... WHEN is the cut off that Rufus has to file that 10k today????
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
RyanPBF said:
well I hate to say this but it doesn't look like there's any buying pressure.

Me either. But I dont see any selling pressure either.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
By the letter of the law... WHEN is the cut off that Rufus has to file that 10k today????

15 calendar days from extension.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
What do you mean today?
They filed for more time...

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
By the letter of the law... WHEN is the cut off that Rufus has to file that 10k today????


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it seems we are in a state of homeostasis. There's my big word for the day [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Here comes our volume...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus said they would MAKE the Deadline, which falls on TODAY...

Do they have till 5 pm or midnight to file???
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
chart I believe today was the final day to file with out it being late.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart I believe today was the final day to file with out it being late.

I know... What TIME does he have till?????
 
Posted by dog on :
 
psych
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
They now have until Oct 20th to file th 10-K.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I thought last SEC filings at 6pm.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
The EDGAR system hours of operation for submitting files are 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. Eastern Time, weekdays, excluding Federal Holidays. Files submitted after 5:30 p.m. Eastern (with the exception of Section 16 filings) will receive the next business day's filing date.
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
Where and when did he say this?

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus said they would MAKE the Deadline, which falls on TODAY...

Do they have till 5 pm or midnight to file???


 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus said they would MAKE the Deadline, which falls on TODAY...

Do they have till 5 pm or midnight to file???

I believe midnight...... but if what you say is true,,,,,, why did they file for etension...???
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
oops...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Whoever watches the after market hour trading mark the PPS right now...I would like to know if those trades that go through are for the trades from now and the MM's are holding the printing of the transactions...
2.69/2.70
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
So Rufus has till 10 PM to file the 10k? right?

Thx Livinon ~

-cause Ben, Rufus and Tut said it WOULD be on time...

I'm not going to panic if we don't see it with that great 8k we got, but if Rufus doesn't file it then there is some kind of "play" going on again...

I'd like to pull a little profit and get somewhat off this heartburn ride from hell! LOL ~~~ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Chart chill out man...we won't get it today IMO.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
Where and when did he say this?

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus said they would MAKE the Deadline, which falls on TODAY...

Do they have till 5 pm or midnight to file???


Phone calls to Ben and Rufus,...
we heard this alot! That the filings would be on time.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Chart...if you are selling for profit...try not to follow the MM's down...IMO..they will try to take it down just as they did with Dog...put your sell in, at or above the ask and I bet they will come to you...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I just want to know WHEN to STOP watching for a filing tonight....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Oh I'm not selling....
I bought more today! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
SHiiiiiiT
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I was going to try flipping on the way up, but it never happened...

Win some lose some [Big Grin]

Back to original plan.... Reset [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
The gap will close by EOD IMO...
-with no news of course ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
how far are they going to take this down this time.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Playing on the crowd that thinks there is a 10k at 2p.
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
Was that before or after they filed for an extension?

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
Where and when did he say this?

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus said they would MAKE the Deadline, which falls on TODAY...

Do they have till 5 pm or midnight to file???


Phone calls to Ben and Rufus,...
we heard this alot! That the filings would be on time.


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
without news today. this could get ugly. I would think.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2.43 is next ress.... ouch ~
gap closes at 2.45
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
2.45 or so..

quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
how far are they going to take this down this time.


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
Was that before or after they filed for an extension?

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
Where and when did he say this?

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus said they would MAKE the Deadline, which falls on TODAY...

Do they have till 5 pm or midnight to file???


Phone calls to Ben and Rufus,...
we heard this alot! That the filings would be on time.


Ben and Rufus -before, Tut after...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
view is constantly dropping the ask even after buys.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
rsi 10
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Attention: OK...for what it's worth (we know how this went last Friday), I just got off the phone with Ben (cell 317-213-7700 feel free to call him). I asked if we were going to hear something today. He sounded like he was trying to be careful about what was said. I told him we are surprised there was no PR associated with the 8-k. I told him that because of its length, a lot of people probably did not read or understand it all. He said they were going to do a PR for the 8-k. I asked if we would have a 10-k today or if they would need the (filed) extension. He said the lawyers were working on the finishing touches and did not think they would need the extension. I believe he used the words "no...we're good".

Again...FWIW. [Cool]
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Sure hope this price is about as low as it is going to drop today...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Good Job St. Matthew, Thanks!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
St.Matt...

Man I hope so!! [Big Grin]

I feel better knowing that they have untill 10pm to do so...

-we did agree it was 10 pm riiiight gang??? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I am not a basher by any means, but Rufus had said so many times that he's interested in the longs. Yet the only people that are making money are the shorts and flippers. He needs to start backing up what he's been saying all along and give us something to sink our teeth into. I agree, this stock is way down today if nothing comes out. Calls to his office are just getting dumped into voice mail and no news at all today. I'm long...but not so strong anymore. I know all the DD points to nothing but good for this stock, but c'mon Rufus, throw us a bone here!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
well...if the tax collector's call bears fruit...this should be the lower end of the spectrum...

vin...you could'nt sink your teeth into the 8k/a?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Well said Vin!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
we fell to our open and low of day, they'll be pushing for a gap close next....

Come on 10k!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Been away for awhile (class): From HSM:

Originally Posted by tutankhamen
Everyone stay calm because if you watch the emotions on the board and the market they coincide exactly with the up and down swings. You are showing your cards to the market makers. Don't let your emotions dictate the market. Focus on the positive aspects and what your due diligence has shown you and what the latest 8ka also proves to you. What you are waiting for right now will happen and you will be victorious.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Today, 01:35 PM #1027
tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 177 Everyone stay calm because if you watch the emotions on the board and the market they coincide exactly with the up and down swings. You are showing your cards to the market makers. Don't let your emotions dictate the market. Focus on the positive aspects and what your due diligence has shown you and what the latest 8ka also proves to you. What you are waiting for right now will happen and you will be victorious.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
about time we hear from deep throat!

ok... NOW let's look for some news [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I'm just to fast port!
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Tut seemed to work. 2.62 now [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I hate to say it, but Tut didn't seem to imply it would be during trading hours....

FWIW
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Not pumping or bashing but want to see a shake, look at SGRP.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Tut seemed to work. 2.62 now [Big Grin]

That goes to show how hard the market is looking for "any" news!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
st. matty, did you ask anything about the reset? when will it take place? what figures for pps are they discussing? anything at all about the reset?

If not, i'd actually like to hear what they have to say about it:D and no, i really don't want to wait to see what it will be at or hear it in news later on lol. i'd just like to hear what they have to say. and no again, i can't call myself... i'm in iraq right now...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I like pr's during trading hours they seem to have much more effect on the pps.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Settle down all of you ... nothing has changed ... we own stock worth alot more than current pps - everyone knows that now!

Everyone knows it's going to go way up in value very soon with the 10k. The mm's have control until we get the "news out". Relax, I feel the same way, somewhat frustrated with the slowness of it all ... we're all used to be on the move, jumping in and getting out and moving on ... the reward will make it all worth it to be patient!

Rufus showed us all Friday who is in charge ... Let's roll!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
are you an operator or an engineer over there?
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hey did we pick up a new MM. My l2's are showing 46 mm's on the buy and ask. The last few days it was at 45mms or less?

Mine shows 44bid/44ask- thats using Microcaptrade L2's
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I hope you are a truthful dude St Matthew....
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
uh oh.... scotty came in early and gave me my funds;)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
St Matt's been pretty straight here.... [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
yeah.but he mentioned stealing some tires... [Wink]
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
St Matt's been pretty straight here.... [Smile]


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I agree St. Matt's been straight. Now if the info he received is good. We'll have to wait and see. Give Ben a call Doni Matt put the number up.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I hope you are a truthful dude St Matthew....

St. Matt has been a good man so far! I trust him. I wish I could call for myself but I'm in school. Maybe I'll break away and try callin. [Smile]
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
getting a very strong uptrend here ...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
are you an operator or an engineer over there?

labeled as a tech slot... we operate and maintain the terminals... besides just normal satcom equip, some of the systems have cisco routers. we have an antenna install coming up soon too. i guess we do it all;) haha
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Look... they know they are in trouble.

We win... they lose billions.

They win... I lose much less than that.

Nuff said. It's coming baby. MM's better put on a diaper.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
cool...stay safe! even though ya are just a techie, lol...

What is up with this huge volume early on...then it just seems to trail off...didn't it do this midweek last week as well? I'm just not understanding the logic behind moving this that way...if it was me doing the manipulating I'd string it along a little more evenly than this...

I don't know...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha... c'mom:D ah well... it still pays the bills... quite well. not to mention the first 85,000 is tax free... (they changed it from 80 to 85 this year!)
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Since P Rowds mentioned "tax free" albeit in a different context, who here knows the rules about capital gains taxes and whether it is considered short term or long term?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
oh yeah, I know...they give incentives out the wazoo for guys to go over there...I've much respect man...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
sherri the real question is... when you file... will they audit you:D lol
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I believe there is a one year cutoff. If you hold under a year you're subject to the whole capital gains tax and if you hold a year or more it's like 15%
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Someone named NITE is threatening people over on HSM with stock manipulation and that they are watching the thread... say they can get anybody's name with a subpoena....
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I believe there is a one year cutoff. If you hold under a year you're subject to the whole capital gains tax and if you hold a year or more it's like 15%

What is the whole % this year - seems like they reduced it (???) Also, if you trade as a profession, don't they treat it like wages instead of capital gains? Latter does not apply to me, but wish it did [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LMAO...what?

quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Someone named NITE is threatening people over on HSM with stock manipulation and that they are watching the thread... say they can get anybody's name with a subpoena....


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
NITE on a message board come on now.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Likely is not NITE.... but funny nonetheless.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
funny without a doubt.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
This stock has been tremendously entertaining.
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
less than one year holding- short term capital gains, short term capital gains are added to your other short term capital gains and taxed according to what tax bracket you fall in.

1 year hold or longer - long term capital gains. taxed 15% + state (1-5% avg). remember your time starts at the last time your traded the stock. and i belive securities use the FIFO method of inventory.


quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I believe there is a one year cutoff. If you hold under a year you're subject to the whole capital gains tax and if you hold a year or more it's like 15%

What is the whole % this year - seems like they reduced it (???) Also, if you trade as a profession, don't they treat it like wages instead of capital gains? Latter does not apply to me, but wish it did [Big Grin]

 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'll take a nice easy steady climb like this all day.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Someone named NITE is threatening people over on HSM with stock manipulation and that they are watching the thread... say they can get anybody's name with a subpoena....

they can, but the same goes for the Bashers...

i was posting the laws for a few of the most vocal troublemakers regularly last month...

i would assume they are only interested in people that LIE...

be honest? you should not woorry..
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
st. matty, did you ask anything about the reset? when will it take place? what figures for pps are they discussing? anything at all about the reset?

If not, i'd actually like to hear what they have to say about it:D and no, i really don't want to wait to see what it will be at or hear it in news later on lol. i'd just like to hear what they have to say. and no again, i can't call myself... i'm in iraq right now...

It is an honor to speak with you P Rowds...I salute you.

If you have ever spoken with Ben...it is like pulling teeth to get info from him. I could tell he was trying to be careful about what he was saying, so I did not go there...just tried to find out when some darn news was coming out...8-k, pr, or 10-k...know what I mean?

Hang in there.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey glass were have you been?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
hangin' out waitin' to see what's gonna happen...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
what do you think about today. you think it's holding up better than expected. Just curious on your take.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Took a long lunch today... figured we are in a bit of a wait here. St. Matt good news. I think? Just checked and my funds are not available yet, sooo... if Ben could hold off just a bit longer for me... Ha ha just kidding! Fire when ready. If I don't have more when the thing goes down I am not going to fret. I got plenty right now.

Probably just getting greedy anyway... wanting more. [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
It is an honor to speak with you P Rowds...I salute you.

If you have ever spoken with Ben...it is like pulling teeth to get info from him. I could tell he was trying to be careful about what he was saying, so I did not go there...just tried to find out when some darn news was coming out...8-k, pr, or 10-k...know what I mean?

Hang in there.

thanks st. matty...

haha, yes i've spoken with him probably 15 times. when it was in the fhal days... i was able to get a hold of either him or rufus every call. cass, MT, Doni, 10, catia, chart, maumee... well they should remember... sorry if i left anyone out... [Frown] that was a long time ago lol. but yes i understand... but something like the pps after the reset would and should have been something that Ben would have been able to discuss... don't bother with time frames... the only thing he will ever say is "soon" haha.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
It is an honor to speak with you P Rowds...I salute you.

If you have ever spoken with Ben...it is like pulling teeth to get info from him. I could tell he was trying to be careful about what he was saying, so I did not go there...just tried to find out when some darn news was coming out...8-k, pr, or 10-k...know what I mean?

Hang in there.

thanks st. matty...

haha, yes i've spoken with him probably 15 times. when it was in the fhal days... i was able to get a hold of either him or rufus every call. cass, MT, Doni, 10, catia, chart, maumee... well they should remember... sorry if i left anyone out... [Frown] that was a long time ago lol. but yes i understand... but something like the pps after the reset would and should have been something that Ben would have been able to discuss... don't bother with time frames... the only thing he will ever say is "soon" haha.

Yep there for awhile PRowds was the only one they would talk too. It was fun we got all the news up front. Thanks for your earlier efforts, wish you were stateside with us. Stay safe. [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
P Rowds: SALUTE!! [Smile]

I too remember your phone calls ~
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha... thanks tax... forgot your name in that list:(
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
what do you think about today. you think it's holding up better than expected. Just curious on your take.

i think it's doing what it always has,

holding up under pressure...

this is the most amazing play i've ever seen...

waiting stinks..

that's all we can do now...
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I hope you are a truthful dude St Matthew....

I may be a lot of things, but lying ain't my bage...Homy don't play that because the truth always busts you sooner or later. This is one of the reasons people call me St. Matthew...that and I'm good with money (so was the apostle St. Matthew).

Like I said, talking to Ben is very frustrating and sometimes you can get him to say something he probably shouldn't. But today, he seemed to be trying to be careful. I take that as a good sign...he is following Nasdaq rules...LOL).
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
phfffft....lol [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Remember what Homer Simpson said:
"We're stuck playing the waiting game....Ahhhh...The waiting game sucks, lets play Hungry Hungry Hippos"
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ARCA bust out support at 2.56
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
It is an honor to speak with you P Rowds...I salute you.

If you have ever spoken with Ben...it is like pulling teeth to get info from him. I could tell he was trying to be careful about what he was saying, so I did not go there...just tried to find out when some darn news was coming out...8-k, pr, or 10-k...know what I mean?

Hang in there.

thanks st. matty...

haha, yes i've spoken with him probably 15 times. when it was in the fhal days... i was able to get a hold of either him or rufus every call. cass, MT, Doni, 10, catia, chart, maumee... well they should remember... sorry if i left anyone out... [Frown] that was a long time ago lol. but yes i understand... but something like the pps after the reset would and should have been something that Ben would have been able to discuss... don't bother with time frames... the only thing he will ever say is "soon" haha.

yah, Rowds, you were like the original "Tut" back in those days - waitin' on your every word [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
bulls get fat...bears get fat...hippos get...um...really, really fat...
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
yeah.but he mentioned stealing some tires... [Wink]
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
St Matt's been pretty straight here.... [Smile]


LOL...I will have to tell you guys that story once we are all rich. However, I didn't steal it...just got arrested because they thought I was trying to...like my name and address were not all over the freaking work order to replace my spare tire...HELLO!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
St. Matt...I was just teasing... [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
yeah.but he mentioned stealing some tires... [Wink]
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
St Matt's been pretty straight here.... [Smile]


LOL...I will have to tell you guys that story once we are all rich. However, I didn't steal it...just got arrested because they thought I was trying to...like my name and address were not all over the freaking work order to replace my spare tire...HELLO!

 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I agree St. Matt's been straight. Now if the info he received is good. We'll have to wait and see. Give Ben a call Doni Matt put the number up.

I notice that I do seem to get through when some of you don't. I usually have to try a few times before he answers, but today, I got through the first time. I am unable to call long distance from work, so I have to call using a long distance calling card. I am wondering what that shows on his caller id? Not sure why he would answer a call from AT&T, but just a thought. [Confused]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Volume dead in the water...
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Well.....seems like something is going on. Havent heard anything in terms of PR to update us....they throw out a 8-k/A with book value of $7.21 and dont PR it, and then they tell us they wont miss the deadline, and are cutting it pretty close here. Price shows MM don't believe in the reset, I hope Rufus is just playing with em.
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Well.....seems like something is going on. Havent heard anything in terms of PR to update us....they throw out a 8-k/A with book value of $7.21 and dont PR it, and then they tell us they wont miss the deadline, and are cutting it pretty close here. Price shows MM don't believe in the reset, I hope Rufus is just playing with em.

Personally, I think he is...just as I think the extension was setting them up...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Remember that feeling when we were at $4 a share!!

Wonder what it will feel like the day of reset?!!!

OMG!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
If this doesn't get a news release to help it along....it could get real ugly EOD me thinks...

Just a cheerfull thought for ya.....
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
reset...yeah that'll be nice...

I'm waiting for national media coverage...in my opinion...waaaaaaaaaaayyy more important in the long run...
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Remember that feeling when we were at $4 a share!!

Wonder what it will feel like the day of reset?!!!

OMG!! [Big Grin]

No, I forgotten what that felt like watching it fall almost half of the way back down [Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I would bet on a after hours PR. Why? because the mm's think they will be able to bring this down EOD(let's keep'em from doin it). Rufus puts out a PR after hours (10k, reset info) and mm's are scroogied!! JMO
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Thanks for that visual rat. I think I have a stomach ache......

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
If this doesn't get a news release to help it along....it could get real ugly EOD me thinks...

Just a cheerfull thought for ya.....


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
If this doesn't get a news release to help it along....it could get real ugly EOD me thinks...

Just a cheerfull thought for ya.....

THANKS!......

"Mr. Sunshine!!" lmao ~~

-I hear ya rat, that gap close is-a-callin!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Geeze BB I've been seeing these guys all day

Chart, Tax, Maumee and Doni...

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
mmm ok. lunch break here.

the silent calm before the snakebite? hisssssssssss [Wink]

cheerleaders went to lunch so you're stuck with these guys:


 -

YAY RAH RAH CMOOOOOON RUFUS!!!

~BB



 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
news???
 
Posted by beatheodds on :
 
This is the EOD an a no show of pr's. Did some tie up Rufus over the weekend. But it looks like the close might be ok because everyone wants to get in before a possible closing PR.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jeese...looking at a two day chart...just showing friday and today is pretty lame...the two days are almost identical...just on a lower scale today...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
reset...yeah that'll be nice...

I'm waiting for national media coverage...in my opinion...waaaaaaaaaaayyy more important in the long run...

The only media coverage I want is the one right after this reset hits, where they start reporting on how CSHD made a whole lotta people rich. Something like this.

Reporter: ”This is CNBC reporting on how a company named CSHD made hundreds of people rich. Oh wait here comes one of the new millionairs now. Sir can I ask you your name. “
Rich Guy: “Sure it is Taxback04” [Big Grin]
Reporter: “Would you like to comment on how CSHD made you very stinking rich?”
Rich Guy: “No.”
Reporter: “There you have it folks. Another rude rich guy.” [Big Grin]

Someone tell that guy on HSM that I have his ending for his screen play!
 
Posted by mo-rydr on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mo-rydr:

And now for some FUN.... Here's King Tut


 -  -

Click on the link below to see SNL skit with Steve Martin

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x65ic_steve-martin-king-tut


 -

Time for a different dance, helps put a smile on my face. [Smile]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
who here gets a feeling of after hour p.r. plus 10k.......I do!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I would love it a surfer, but doubt it.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Somethings up... Nice jump.
 
Posted by mo-rydr on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
who here gets a feeling of after hour p.r. plus 10k.......I do!!!

Let's see, how would that look in the strategery of time?

I like it!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Going Up???????????

Not that I'm complaining....
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Oh, I feel it coming...I hope I feel right. lol.

I did not want it out during the day...it needs that overnight digestion.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Nah...it doesn't need an overnight digestion...just put the darn thing out and reset the price...LOL

quote:
Originally posted by portman:
Oh, I feel it coming...I hope I feel right. lol.

I did not want it out during the day...it needs that overnight digestion.


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
feels like something up.....
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
come on!!!!!!!! WE DESERVE IT!!!!!!!

Bring it on..
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
last 30 minutes....
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
bleh.. prolly after hours again.. that's been the habit lately
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
A big pr about 5min before closing would be awesome. Enough time for the mm's to know they're screwed and not enough time to do anything about it.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
price is taking off... maybe there has been a PR or filing? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
we break through 2.80 and we should see 3.00 pretty quick...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Maybe investors will view the sideways trades for the last few hours as anindication that some of the risk is gone for the time being before the 10K. That may prevent an EOD drop and may actually cause an EOD run. If I felt that the price had leveled, and that there was a major upswing potential, I would throw my money at it before the bell, wouldn't you?
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
I would throw money at anything under 7.00 right now.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Big buys and tiny sells, and it moves down....
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
anything? im done but im not gonna make it home for closing bell.
i hope he releases it 2 minutes before and all heck breaks loose.

pps is holding nicely considering the fact that rufus is playing his cards so close [Wink] good sign!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
except of course for that sell of 16920 right when I hit Add reply. Wow, someone bozo'ed on that one. over $45,000.....at close to the LOD (for right now)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yeah...wasn't your friend Gurl saying it was pumper manipulation or some crap like that?
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Big buys and tiny sells, and it moves down....


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
get your orders in now folks cause this is CHEAP!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
what BS...

hell buying above ASK!...
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Wish they would keep doing more of it. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
still buying above ASK and it sits there...
If they let it go, it will FLY ~~ IMO
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
what BS...

hell buying above ASK!...

Are you being sarcastic chart....?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
no... look at T & S...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Come on $3!!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
sweet
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
we need some news, now !!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
low .70's here we come...

nevermind...i saw something that apparently wasn't there...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
MM's dragging their feet.....

POS!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Who the hell witnesses a small run with 10 minutes to go and starts selling? No news could come out after the Bell that is BAD, as far as I know, plus this thing is becoming famous for morning gaps. SO what is the point????
 
Posted by mo-rydr on :
 
This run up started right after I posted the King Tut link, so... here's a little exercise that we can all do..., run the Tut Vid and do the Tut Dance, see if we can get this to really go! [Big Grin]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x65ic_steve-martin-king-tut
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
volume IS or WAS THERE!!
come on!! ~~
 
Posted by beatheodds on :
 
NO PR!!!! Yaaaah!! [Smile]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
last chance to buy shares under $3.00 IMO
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by beatheodds:
NO PR!!!! Yaaaah!! [Smile]

"Peterboy" How the heck are ya!!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
well not a bad day huh rat?... [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I just want the bell now.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
With no news, I think we got lucky today.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Id say no news and up 16%, Ill take that all day everyday!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
still 30 seconds
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I was just going to say that Vin. Wow, we think alike...imagine that!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
LMAO Doni !! I hear ya!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Nice to see a green day, but what happened to the $7+ pps? I'm not real sure that a PR about hte 8k will clear this up, but it can't hurt anything.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Bid and ask both ended above the last... nice
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Look at that. .02 jump in the last 10 seconds. Then 2 cent drop after the bell. Darn
 
Posted by dog on :
 
respectable....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
16.12% in the Green ~ [Big Grin]

Now make my day Rufus!!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
2.89 16:02:47
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
much better than I thought we would end up. with no news released. Hopefully somethings up and the mm's know it.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
so, is it everyone's opinion that the reason this isn't pushing up towards $7 is that there's no PR to make the public aware of the 8K that came out Friday?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
People have been expecting (and promised) the 10k. That's the one and only thing that will make this jump. Gotta be glad though...an extension, no 10k and no pr...and we closed green. Not bad. This thing is holding up fairly well.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
so, is it everyone's opinion that the reason this isn't pushing up towards $7 is that there's no PR to make the public aware of the 8K that came out Friday?

Yes, most people fell asleep before getting to the good stuff...IMHO.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Actually, I believe that it will sideways trade until SOMETHING is released about the 10K. If it wasn't for the 8K we would all have watched this plummet by now.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
the bid is at 2.90 right now.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
last trade 16:07 2.95
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
keep an eye to the wires....
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I am not questioning anyone who said they talked to Ben. I'm sure what Matt said today is true.

But if the Lawyers are putting the final touches on it.. doesn't that contradict when Ben told someone on Friday that it was done and being scanned or something and the TA already had it.

I don't know the process of going from lawyers to scanning to TA's etc. So I could be way off on this. It just seems like a contradiction. Can anyone clarify?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Doni, Your last line = BINGO!!!
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
so, is it everyone's opinion that the reason this isn't pushing up towards $7 is that there's no PR to make the public aware of the 8K that came out Friday?

Yes, most people fell asleep before getting to the good stuff...IMHO.
I aree with you
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
No, I think it is not pushing $7 because the MM are short, shorty is short, brokerages are short, and longs are flipping rather than longing. If investors would have held through 3.25 today it would not have stopped so easy.

But is hard to hold when any stock you bought at 0.08 hits 3.25. I don't blame the investor on taking profits, just saying until we get to holding this long term through the relativly small gains, it is not going to climb the stairs. [Cool]
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
It ended on a good note!!! Not a bad day at all!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
watch for news [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Not a bad day at all considering. Still holding and watching for the news.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I am not questioning anyone who said they talked to Ben. I'm sure what Matt said today is true.

But if the Lawyers are putting the final touches on it.. doesn't that contradict when Ben told someone on Friday that it was done and being scanned or something and the TA already had it.

I don't know the process of going from lawyers to scanning to TA's etc. So I could be way off on this. It just seems like a contradiction. Can anyone clarify?

Just to clarify, that was not me who said that...I spoke with Mitch on Friday who said they would meet the deadline. Notice the extension was not PR'd. I think it was filed just in case they ran into a problem. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Today, Ben said they would not need the extension, but he did say that he was not around the office and the lawyers were handling all that stuff.

Trust me...it makes me nervous throwing stuff Ben says out there because he is so vague. I don't want to end up on the FOS list (full of chit) [Razz]
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
St. Matt - I know what you mean. I talked to Rufus twice back in July I think it was. I posted what he said and had a lot of people jumping on my back.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well guys I'll check back in later tonight. Hopefully there will be like 20 pages of good news to catch up with.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I am not questioning anyone who said they talked to Ben. I'm sure what Matt said today is true.

But if the Lawyers are putting the final touches on it.. doesn't that contradict when Ben told someone on Friday that it was done and being scanned or something and the TA already had it.

I don't know the process of going from lawyers to scanning to TA's etc. So I could be way off on this. It just seems like a contradiction. Can anyone clarify?

Just to clarify, that was not me who said that...I spoke with Mitch on Friday who said they would meet the deadline. Notice the extension was not PR'd. I think it was filed just in case they ran into a problem. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Today, Ben said they would not need to extension, but he did say that he was not around the office and the lawyers were handling all that stuff.

Trust me...it makes me nervous throwing stuff Ben says out there because he is so vague. I don't want to end up on the FOS list (full of chit) [Razz]

Don't worry St. I've posted stuff before, and I can relate to the fact your worried they won't follow through with what they said. I think we'll get news tonight. Wasn't a bad day, but it's amazing how you can have such amazing audited fins sitting in front of you and people still doubt, doubt, doubt. Just sucks because now I'm going to have a hard time sleeping again tonight. Talk to y'all later tonight. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
So how many of the 75mil short shares does the board figure have covered by now? I think not very many.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
So how many of the 75mil short shares does the board figure have covered by now? I think not very many.

Maybe 1 or 2 shares! I think they might even be worse of then they were before. I don't know where they been getting all these shares the last several days. JMO
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Later Cass.

I was extremely happy to see the gap and run right off the bat, but the fact that it went up so quickly was positive proof that it was going to fall. Way too many flippers involved to let that keep running. The funny thing is that the buying pressure would have probably pushed this up to at least $5 if the flippers didn't flip out. Oh well, can't fault a person for making a good flip......*******s....lol
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Like someone said earlier....

It's hard not to take profits when you bought in at .08 and it's sittin around 3 bucks.....

Thats where the shares have been commin from...

Oh!!!

If you cant sleep, do three double shots of Crown, three beers, 1/2 of a vicadin, smoke a doob, eat a Large meat lovers pizza,and get laid if possible....I promiss you will sleep like a baby...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Like someone said earlier....

It's hard not to take profits when you bought in at .08 and it's sittin around 3 bucks.....

Thats where the shares have been commin from...

Oh!!!

If you cant sleep, do three double shots of Crown, three beers, 1/2 of a vicadin, smoke a doob, eat a Large meat lovers pizza,and get laid if possible....I promiss you will sleep like a baby...

That's a lot of work just to get some sleep.

The last one alone works for most guys.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Yeah but how will you trade tomorrow from the Detox center?

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Like someone said earlier....

It's hard not to take profits when you bought in at .08 and it's sittin around 3 bucks.....

Thats where the shares have been commin from...

Oh!!!

If you cant sleep, do three double shots of Crown, three beers, 1/2 of a vicadin, smoke a doob, eat a Large meat lovers pizza,and get laid if possible....I promiss you will sleep like a baby...


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
If Possible?
SOOOO....many things could be said...LOL... [Eek!] [Razz] [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Like someone said earlier....

It's hard not to take profits when you bought in at .08 and it's sittin around 3 bucks.....

Thats where the shares have been commin from...

Oh!!!

If you cant sleep, do three double shots of Crown, three beers, 1/2 of a vicadin, smoke a doob, eat a Large meat lovers pizza,and get laid if possible....I promiss you will sleep like a baby...


 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
well i would like to personally thank Rufus for not playing this thing out when i wasnt available.

you may now go ahead and release the PR [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Donni, The detox center is on line, and I was bein a little sarcastic with the if possible thing 10.......Wasn't sure if cassity could get some......didn't want to direct and all.....You know.......
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Like someone said earlier....

It's hard not to take profits when you bought in at .08 and it's sittin around 3 bucks.....

Thats where the shares have been commin from...

Oh!!!

If you cant sleep, do three double shots of Crown, three beers, 1/2 of a vicadin, smoke a doob, eat a Large meat lovers pizza,and get laid if possible....I promiss you will sleep like a baby...

AHHH...the good life! [Wink]
I really miss college. [Eek!]
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Like someone said earlier....

It's hard not to take profits when you bought in at .08 and it's sittin around 3 bucks.....

Thats where the shares have been commin from...

Oh!!!

If you cant sleep, do three double shots of Crown, three beers, 1/2 of a vicadin, smoke a doob, eat a Large meat lovers pizza,and get laid if possible....I promiss you will sleep like a baby...

I'd sleep for 2 day's
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
phhhfffftttt!!!!!!!! Tired...bored....waiting.... phhhhhhhhfffffffffffftttttttt!!!!!!!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Guys & Gals, I have 2 questions & I welcome all answers... I have no doubt that when the 10K comes out this thing will fly that's why I'm holding long but my ?'s are:

1) Can't Ben get into trouble for telling shareholders insider info? or is he doing in a way that is ok?

2) Just curious, & I mean nothing by this so don't read this the wrong way... I've seen the 8k & I like it, no, I love it, but why did they use a CPA from Michigan and not from in their immediate area? Is this person well known perhaps ,Really, I'm just curious.

We Wound up ending strong. Go CSHD!!!
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
If you cant sleep, do three double shots of Crown, three beers, 1/2 of a vicadin, smoke a doob, eat a Large meat lovers pizza,and get laid if possible....I promiss you will sleep like a baby...

I wouldnt wake up till it was $100. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
You guys are funny!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Like someone said earlier....

It's hard not to take profits when you bought in at .08 and it's sittin around 3 bucks.....

Thats where the shares have been commin from...

Oh!!!

If you cant sleep, do three double shots of Crown, three beers, 1/2 of a vicadin, smoke a doob, eat a Large meat lovers pizza,and get laid if possible....I promiss you will sleep like a baby...

Ok I will try this... but first I am going to make a few ommissions/substitutions. Three double shots of Crown is fine but I prefer tequila from a beach bar, three beers? How about "tres cerveza" , I don't do vicadine not even half., I'll exchange the doob for a fine Cuban and sniff of brndy, large meat lovers is good but why not a steak, and we will leave the getting laid just like it is. Oh yeah all that and throw in a 10-K from CSHD and I will sleep pretty darn good. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
My twist will be some lemon pepper chicken with fettucini alfredo and some nice iced tea.
Of course, the getting laid stays.

I live a little more mild [Wink]

10K would never hurt though!!!!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys & Gals, I have 2 questions & I welcome all answers... I have no doubt that when the 10K comes out this thing will fly that's why I'm holding long but my ?'s are:

1) Can't Ben get into trouble for telling shareholders insider info? or is he doing in a way that is ok?

2) Just curious, & I mean nothing by this so don't read this the wrong way... I've seen the 8k & I like it, no, I love it, but why did they use a CPA from Michigan and not from in their immediate area? Is this person well known perhaps ,Really, I'm just curious.

We Wound up ending strong. Go CSHD!!!

Interesting questions. I would like to hear some thoughts on this one too. Anyone help here?
 
Posted by skip on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:

If you cant sleep, do three double shots of Crown, three beers, 1/2 of a vicadin, smoke a doob, eat a Large meat lovers pizza,and get laid if possible....I promiss you will sleep like a baby...

all that, and then go to sleep? that sounds like the beginnings of a great night to me! [Smile]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
whatever ....see ya tomorrow glta
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Funny stuff rat...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Vin, maybe if didn't ask questions about stocks and talked about puppies & ice cream & what we will do in our bedrooms late at night while being drunk someone would talk with us... well it's ok... I'm a pretty independant woman how about you?
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Jenna here's what I recall on the CPA question from about 200 pages ago. I don't remember who posted it first either...

The CPA worked for the state of Michigan and appears to be reputable. Someone said Darryl Horton (or Ben?) went to school in Michigan...could be one of his buddies from way back. The board was looking for a connection and that is a possibility. It is here somewhere in the volumes of info...somebody posted googlemap of the guys house if I recall...

quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys & Gals, I have 2 questions & I welcome all answers... I have no doubt that when the 10K comes out this thing will fly that's why I'm holding long but my ?'s are:

1) Can't Ben get into trouble for telling shareholders insider info? or is he doing in a way that is ok?

2) Just curious, & I mean nothing by this so don't read this the wrong way... I've seen the 8k & I like it, no, I love it, but why did they use a CPA from Michigan and not from in their immediate area? Is this person well known perhaps ,Really, I'm just curious.

We Wound up ending strong. Go CSHD!!!


 
Posted by Vin on :
 
LMAO! Too funny Jenna. That is so perfect.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Sandusky, you rock! Thanks for answering, we really do appreciate it a lot.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys & Gals, I have 2 questions & I welcome all answers... I have no doubt that when the 10K comes out this thing will fly that's why I'm holding long but my ?'s are:

1) Can't Ben get into trouble for telling shareholders insider info? or is he doing in a way that is ok?

2) Just curious, & I mean nothing by this so don't read this the wrong way... I've seen the 8k & I like it, no, I love it, but why did they use a CPA from Michigan and not from in their immediate area? Is this person well known perhaps ,Really, I'm just curious.

We Wound up ending strong. Go CSHD!!!

Interesting questions. I would like to hear some thoughts on this one too. Anyone help here?
I don't think Ben gave a distinct answer. He is vague from the sounds of it.

My guess on the CPA is that it is an aquaintance.
personal, professional or both.
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
I don't feel as bad now that we ended a little higher. I bought another 500 around 2.82 and it's at 2.95 after hours after dropping to around 2.65 AFTER I bought it. Another day another wild ride. At least I'm not getting board!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Sandusky, you DO rock!!!! Thanks makes sense - they wanted someone they trusted maybe?

I found a link for the other ?

http://www.bambooweb.com/articles/i/n/Insider_Trading.html

DD is FUN!!!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I thought about picking up some more, but really thought this would go down EOD without 10k. Was quite surprised that it went up. Somebody said it earlier, anything under 7 will ultimately be a good price...at least that's what's topping my prayer list! [Smile]
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I think we resort to puppies and ice cream and drinking because the stock is fairly boring at this point, when we were all hoping for more...trying to keep ours minds off of it.

As for me, a 4 yr old and an 8 mmo. old put me to sleep just fine [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Some people do not have any patience.

1) Maybe

2) Don't know.

I did not think these are that good of questions, how are we supposed to know what Ben is saying unless we are on the phone with the single person he is talking too. Secondly, who knows how they shopped around for a CPA. We have DD'd the guy he is incredibly qualified and trust worthy so who cares how they found him.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Thanx Surfer, May you ride the most ritous wave!!! Hang 10 buddy!! OOOHHH that's sooo '80's of me!!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Ok guys, I'm out for a while thank you for answering my questions! I feel completely satisfied.

Now, I will eat Tortolloni Alfredo with Chicken, I will not smoke, but I will have a glass of zinfindel, then watch my DVRed episodes of "House MD". Then I will check my lovely allstock message board & find a wonderful post from Chartwalker, or any of you other fellow shareholders, that the 10K has come out & a reset will follow & we will rejoice at our victory that came from the flying dove, I mean the Pheonix!!!

Ok? That's the plan people!! 10K * 8:22pm.

By the way, I was just kidding earlier, I myself ate ice cream earlier & I too have a puppy dog (Labradoodle)

Peace Out...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Jenna - sorry sometimes I have people walking up to my desk so I just end the message before I finish the thought.

I didn't want to be rude, just I don't think these two questions are answerable without speculation.

By the way all it is past 5:30 EST any 10-K filed from this point on will most likely show up tomorrow morning. just FYI.

Later TB
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Thanx Surfer, May you ride the most ritous wave!!! Hang 10 buddy!! OOOHHH that's sooo '80's of me!!!

Jenna you know whats funny I was the sales rep for hang 10 clothing in the late 90's for the state of Fl. LOL Did well with that line too.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Jenna, I needed a laugh after the stress of today. Thanks for keeping it light.
 
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Posted by Synastar1 on :
 
It was nice to have a day where there were no blips on bashdar. Of course, I may have missed a page or something.

EDIT: oh yeah, new screen name. Sent a few PM's with board links in them and whammo... C'est la vie.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I don't believe that anything is being said that violates SEC regulations.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Interesting little bit of news (not CSHD)

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061002/fbi_insiders.html?.v=1
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
I dont think they have ever filed anything or issued a Pr on a Mon. Just speculation and MHO
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Well respected poster on HSM:

Originally Posted by legalnoob
Alright, I just got off the phone with Ben Stanley:

I asked him when we could expect the 10k? He responded that it would be out shortly.

I asked if "be out shortly" meant tonight afterhours. He said all he could say is that it "would be out shortly", and that they were "on top of things".

He then said he had another call to take, and needed to go. I thanked him for his time and ended the call.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I've read that. Did you know that the guy from Ihub named Petermic was actually a witness in that case? There was a secret message board that he and his friends posted on and they received the information from this FBI guy and shared it. Petermic ratted out his friends to save his own butt. Then he tried to rescind his testimony by saying he was confused. Now he bashes popular stocks.


quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Interesting little bit of news (not CSHD)

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061002/fbi_insiders.html?.v=1


 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
There goes my speculation, hopefully.
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
Crap, we need to wait until next April for the 10-K? lol

quote:
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Posted by Doniboy on :
 
By the way, the web site was a secret site for shorters. This is not an opinion this is fact, so the next time someone tells you that shorters don't bash on message boards, tell them to Google "peter michaelson" +elgindy on Google.


quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I've read that. Did you know that the guy from Ihub named Petermic was actually a witness in that case? There was a secret message board that he and his friends posted on and they received the information from this FBI guy and shared it. Petermic ratted out his friends to save his own butt. Then he tried to rescind his testimony by saying he was confused. Now he bashes popular stocks.


quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Interesting little bit of news (not CSHD)

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061002/fbi_insiders.html?.v=1



 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Bet you won't do that again... [Wink] Good to see you...or read you I guess I sould say...
quote:
Originally posted by Synastar1:
It was nice to have a day where there were no blips on bashdar. Of course, I may have missed a page or something.

EDIT: oh yeah, new screen name. Sent a few PM's with board links in them and whammo... C'est la vie.


 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
?
i was PMing w him a while back on iflub.
seems like a nice guy... maybe i dont wanna read that article to retain my view [Wink]

i know he had a big short position on FHAL and was trying to bash down for a cover. or at least thats what i was gathering from him...

quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I've read that. Did you know that the guy from Ihub named Petermic was actually a witness in that case? There was a secret message board that he and his friends posted on and they received the information from this FBI guy and shared it. Petermic ratted out his friends to save his own butt. Then he tried to rescind his testimony by saying he was confused. Now he bashes popular stocks.


quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Interesting little bit of news (not CSHD)

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061002/fbi_insiders.html?.v=1



 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I am not a fan of his BB. He bashed this stock relentlessly. He is a lying shorter and every step he made was designed to cause this baby to go down.

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
?
i was PMing w him a while back on iflub.
seems like a nice guy... maybe i dont wanna read that article to retain my view [Wink]

i know he had a big short position on FHAL and was trying to bash down for a cover. or at least thats what i was gathering from him...

quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I've read that. Did you know that the guy from Ihub named Petermic was actually a witness in that case? There was a secret message board that he and his friends posted on and they received the information from this FBI guy and shared it. Petermic ratted out his friends to save his own butt. Then he tried to rescind his testimony by saying he was confused. Now he bashes popular stocks.


quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Interesting little bit of news (not CSHD)

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061002/fbi_insiders.html?.v=1




 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yeah but he admitted it. i mean it was very clear what he was doing.
ok ok im not defending the guy :-X
 
Posted by bud750 on :
 
Ok people I just called BEN I asked him what is the story with the 10K, because Mr,Harris has told us he will not need the ext. he answered by saying the deadline is not here yet, then he had to go, sounded like he was in a meeting or something alot of people around.m Take it how you want to. i thanked him for answering and he said bye.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys & Gals, I have 2 questions & I welcome all answers... I have no doubt that when the 10K comes out this thing will fly that's why I'm holding long but my ?'s are:

1) Can't Ben get into trouble for telling shareholders insider info? or is he doing in a way that is ok?

2) Just curious, & I mean nothing by this so don't read this the wrong way... I've seen the 8k & I like it, no, I love it, but why did they use a CPA from Michigan and not from in their immediate area? Is this person well known perhaps ,Really, I'm just curious.

We Wound up ending strong. Go CSHD!!!

On the first Q He really didn't give out any material information, basically said they were working on it and intended to meet the deadline.

On Q2, we did a bit of DD on thisback when Benson's name first came up. Darryl Horton is the CFO fo CSHD he worked for the State of Michigan in the same department as Thomas Benson does. Look back on the old thread about the time his named first popped up.

I'll answer any question I possibly can but am not on the boards 24/7. So I can only answer when I see them.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
less than 5 hours for the 10k filing ehh.


[Big Grin]
 
Posted by bud750 on :
 
I'm not sure what he meant in the way he said the deadline is not here yet, new deadline or midnight tonight deadline. not sure
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey Rat thanks for the advice, although I have some problems.

1st: I don't drink anymore, if I have to spend another month in this stock I may take it up again.

2nd: My wife's pregnant and has been sick for 10 weeks straight.(There goes the last idea)

Last: I think I have enough BUD in my system from high school, to last me the rest of my life. LOL

Let's hope for a nice early morning PR tomorrow. GLTA
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
My wife is pregnant too Cass. Congrats!!!! Mine is due Wednesday.....

Hopefully my baby doesn't file for an extension [Smile]
 
Posted by bud750 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
My wife is pregnant too Cass. Congrats!!!! Mine is due Wednesday.....

Hopefully my baby doesn't file for an extension [Smile]

LOL best of luck
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
He only admitted it after we figured out who he was (actually I was the one who figured it out and he admitted it). He started with the old party line "I hate to see others lose money" "I'm just curious" "I would never invest in this"...Blah, Blah, Blah. Actually I'm surprised you liked him at all.


quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yeah but he admitted it. i mean it was very clear what he was doing.
ok ok im not defending the guy :-X


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
My wife is pregnant too Cass. Congrats!!!! Mine is due Wednesday.....

Hopefully my baby doesn't file for an extension [Smile]

Congrats Doni!!!
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bud750:
I'm not sure what he meant in the way he said the deadline is not here yet, new deadline or midnight tonight deadline. not sure

Bud, since the deadline is now 10/15 I think that's what he meant - the 10K will be out by 10/15.

I'm literally willing to bet 20K shares that it won't be out until then as I have a buy in for that amount at a certain level less than what we are at now, which I believe we will see.
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
Uncle Smelly,

Agreed. What level do you think that will be?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
My wife is pregnant too Cass. Congrats!!!! Mine is due Wednesday.....

Hopefully my baby doesn't file for an extension [Smile]

Oh man! this made me laugh so hard. Good luck there Doni. As a father three times over I can definitely agree that the stresses of watching your wife those final few weeks is very similar to watching Rufas and company. Let's have that baby already!

Baby extention... now that is funny. [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Well congrad's guys on the baby's to be!!!

It's my understanding that a PR can come out anytime, but the SEC filing (10K) if it's turned in now will first show up at 6 AM on Edgar.

Hope it's there ~

Uncle Smelly if it's not, you might get that fill of yours...
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Look to follow up my response to Bud, I'm not a basher - I'm being a realist here. There is obviously one of two things going on here and thus the extension:

1. They have their s h i t together and want it to be the best it can be; i.e. Nasdaq, $50+ pps reset, cure for cancer, etc....

2. They do not have their s h i t together and are stalling until they can find a way out of the mess they have created without getting sued, arrested, harrassed, or beat up.

One of the two people, one of the two. [Smile] I'm holding because I believe right now it's number uno.
 
Posted by bud750 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
Look to follow up my response to Bud, I'm not a basher - I'm being a realist here. There is obviously one of two things going on here and thus the extension:

1. They have their s h i t together and want it to be the best it can be; i.e. Nasdaq, $50+ pps reset, cure for cancer, etc....

2. They do not have their s h i t together and are stalling until they can find a way out of the mess they have created without getting sued, arrested, harrassed, or beat up.

One of the two people, one of the two. [Smile] I'm holding because I believe right now it's number uno.

LOL yes you are right what other option can it be LOL
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
quote:
Originally posted by bud750:
I'm not sure what he meant in the way he said the deadline is not here yet, new deadline or midnight tonight deadline. not sure

Bud, since the deadline is now 10/15 I think that's what he meant - the 10K will be out by 10/15.

I'm literally willing to bet 20K shares that it won't be out until then as I have a buy in for that amount at a certain level less than what we are at now, which I believe we will see.

LMAO ok so now the 10k will be out the 10/15,"if " we dont see another extension before that day


LOL [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
Uncle Smelly,

Agreed. What level do you think that will be?

Well considering that everytime a price is mentioned we happen to show the MM's our cards and the price somehow magically jumps to that level. It is probably a bad idea to go down this line of questioning. [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doni and Cass are going to be daddy's...congrats guys...sounds like you will be needing these profits! (trust me on that one! [Wink] )
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
Uncle Smelly,

Agreed. What level do you think that will be?

I feel we will see below $2 again. Really there is no reason to hold at this point. I sold, took profits over $3. I just don't believe they will have the 10K out until 10/15. Plenty of time to wait for a downturn and get back in the game at a lower pps. I'm not bashing, just playing it 'my way'.

Look I made almost 40K here from 1.12, that's a lot of moola so I am very very happy with Rufus. That being said why should I hold over $3 when I feel I can buy back again under $2 before 10/15 ?

If the 10K was ready to go we would have seen $5 today.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
*Keep in mind, ""IF"" Rufus does file the 10k on time tonight sometime before 10 pm, that it won't show up on Edgar till 6 AM tomorrow (don't know what time zone).

--this might be a shot, but it's a shot!!
We won't know for sure till morning ~

Then if it's not there tomorrow....
I dread to think it...
But then the new extention will be the 15th.

Either way we do have a killer up and coming stock, I just may not watch it as close if it's going to go to the 15th...

GLTA ~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yep...I'm with ya on those thoughts US...
BUT...some of the other posters don't have that privilege...Ameritrade stopped them from being able to...they are in or they are out...NO CHOICE...
.50 to 1.00 flips aren't bad...BUT I won't go through the night with out having shares in hand...
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
good call UNCLE


SAME HERE.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys & Gals, I have 2 questions & I welcome all answers... I have no doubt that when the 10K comes out this thing will fly that's why I'm holding long but my ?'s are:

1) Can't Ben get into trouble for telling shareholders insider info? or is he doing in a way that is ok?

2) Just curious, & I mean nothing by this so don't read this the wrong way... I've seen the 8k & I like it, no, I love it, but why did they use a CPA from Michigan and not from in their immediate area? Is this person well known perhaps ,Really, I'm just curious.

We Wound up ending strong. Go CSHD!!!

On the first Q He really didn't give out any material information, basically said they were working on it and intended to meet the deadline.

On Q2, we did a bit of DD on thisback when Benson's name first came up. Darryl Horton is the CFO fo CSHD he worked for the State of Michigan in the same department as Thomas Benson does. Look back on the old thread about the time his named first popped up.

I'll answer any question I possibly can but am not on the boards 24/7. So I can only answer when I see them.

GLTA
Wally

Wally, Thanx, I guess this was brought up before & you guys DD'd it so I appreciate you reiterating. Thanx again GLT us all!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
My wife is pregnant too Cass. Congrats!!!! Mine is due Wednesday.....

Hopefully my baby doesn't file for an extension [Smile]

Doni, let me know if she has the baby Wed. My littlest will be 1 yr old Wed. Hope this helps- tell your wife my due date was Oct. 4th & I had her right on Oct. 4th. Make sure you rub her belly for a few hours. It stimulates blood flow to the uterus & gets things going!!! Start rubbing her belly tomarrow night to give a kickstart!!! Good Luck!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
EEEWWW I said UTERUS!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
[QUOTE]Make sure you rub her belly for a few hours. It stimulates blood flow to the uterus & gets things going!!! Start rubbing her belly tomarrow night to give a kickstart!!! Good Luck!

T.M.I. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I know Tax Sorry!!
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
Uncle Smelly,

Agreed. What level do you think that will be?

I feel we will see below $2 again. Really there is no reason to hold at this point. I sold, took profits over $3. I just don't believe they will have the 10K out until 10/15. Plenty of time to wait for a downturn and get back in the game at a lower pps. I'm not bashing, just playing it 'my way'.

Look I made almost 40K here from 1.12, that's a lot of moola so I am very very happy with Rufus. That being said why should I hold over $3 when I feel I can buy back again under $2 before 10/15 ?

If the 10K was ready to go we would have seen $5 today.

-------------

Yep, if the 10K were coming out tonight, we'd be at 5 or 6 bucks right now IMO. If it's not out come 9:00 am tomorrow, there will be a sharp drop too. You just neva know...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
My wife is pregnant too Cass. Congrats!!!! Mine is due Wednesday.....

Hopefully my baby doesn't file for an extension [Smile]

Congrats on the Baby.

Did you ever think that may be the baby needs to be born before the 10K drops?

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Yep...I'm with ya on those thoughts US...
BUT...some of the other posters don't have that privilege...Ameritrade stopped them from being able to...they are in or they are out...NO CHOICE...
.50 to 1.00 flips aren't bad...BUT I won't go through the night with out having shares in hand...

I truly feel sorry for those with Ameritrade, what that brokerage has done is a crime in my opinion. This is a free country and who the hell are they to limit what their clients can and cannot buy ? That's just silly.

I trade with Chuck Schwab and have never had a problem.

I do still have a few thousand shares that are my holding shares, *just in case* but my flipping shares are out of this until I see a better entry point.

14 more days isn't that bad of a wait, and gives more time for flipping profits to be made !
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
I guess I am missing why several folks on this board think the price will drop without 10k tomorrow. IMO you should have sold today if you are not willing to wait the entire 15d period.

The price should go up IMO due to a value being placed on the company with the 8k filing. One thing I think is holding the stock from really taking off is the lack of a PR explaining the audited financials....Yahoo continues to post a summary of the 8k stating that the financials are un-audited due to a cut and past job from 7/12 8k filing. I would bet most have not even read the 8k filing from Friday..if they were reading the same one I read there would have been no selling under 3 dollars. All IMO
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
I think they filed the extension "in case" they didn't have everything in order in time, as some have posited. I believe it will drop before the 15th. After tomorrow AM Rufus can only hurt his company and his share holders by dragging this out further.

I don't like to think about the alternative.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I think they filed the extension "in case" they didn't have everything in order in time, as some have posited. I believe it will drop before the 15th. After tomorrow AM Rufus can only hurt his company and his share holders by dragging this out further.

I don't like to think about the alternative.

Well it would make sense to keep investor's confidence if Rufus was to release the sitution at hand through a Pr and why the delay was and how long it should take.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Mnvestor...
I hear you..
I find it very hard to think that with the NOBO list and all the shares that have to be covered that we would see red days, otherwise yes.

We technically "should" see days where the price continues up, little by little with the Naked Short issue being covered... That is a HUGE HUGE issue remember!

Trade how you want, just keep everything in mind.
Everyone thought we would tank with the extention, we went up thanks to the 8k. Maybe we will have our 10k bright and early tomorrow... "?"

Then Rufus would have kept his word, Ben would have kept his, and Tut also... along with St.Matt's phone call and the guy from HSM, his phone call aswell, both got an answer that they thought was hinting that it would be done...

I honestly will be surprised if there isn't a 10k filed tonight and waiting for us in the morning.

But,... Like I said we have a great little stock here, I can wait a couple of days for a huge payoff if it isn't!! [Big Grin]


Good luck to everyone no matter what you do!
[Smile]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Mnvestor...
I hear you..
I find it very hard to think that with the NOBO list and all the shares that have to be covered that we would see red days, otherwise yes.

We technically "should" see days where the price continues up, little by little with the Naked Short issue being covered... That is a HUGE HUGE issue remember!

Trade how you want, just keep everything in mind.
Everyone thought we would tank with the extention, we went up thanks to the 8k. Maybe we will have our 10k bright and early tomorrow... "?"

Then Rufus would have kept his word, Ben would have kept his, and Tut also... along with St.Matt's phone call and the guy from HSM, his phone call aswell, both got an answer that they thought was hinting that it would be done...

I honestly will be surprised if there isn't a 10k
filed tonight and waiting for us in the morning.
But,... Like I said we have a great little stock here, I can wait a couple of days for a huge payoff if it isn't!! [Big Grin]


Good luck to everyone no matter what you do!
[Smile]

"I honestly will be surprised if there isn't a 10k filed tonight and waiting for us in the morning."

Your joking right?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Has the S-4 been filed? Definitely not the 10k.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
mnvestor - I think you are missing it to a point. I don't think anyone is saying it is going to drop tomorrow because the stock price is over valued. We are speculating that with out buying pressure created by a PR or 10K. We are going to see the MM's walk this thing down on little to lite volume like we did a couple of weeks ago.

For some that will make it a perfect time to buy, for others it will be a good "possible 14 day time frame" to execute a couple of profitable flips.

I agree if you think this stock should not be valued at $15 or at least the book value of $7.21 you should really evaluate your risk estimate versus investment because a MOMO play this is not without an aticipated value jump.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Unless he's negotiating time for "someone" to cover...he's got some folks by the shorts (pun intended). I don't think he can devastate too many interests without making it harder for himself down the road. I think he wants to teach a lesson...spank them hard but not kill them. He seems to have those kinds of "noble" tendencies.

I don't like the idea of losing investor confidence to give them an out though.

quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I think they filed the extension "in case" they didn't have everything in order in time, as some have posited. I believe it will drop before the 15th. After tomorrow AM Rufus can only hurt his company and his share holders by dragging this out further.

I don't like to think about the alternative.

Well it would make sense to keep investor's confidence if Rufus was to release the sitution at hand through a Pr and why the delay was and how long it should take.

 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
without a doubt we have reached the point in this saga where rufus to keep his credibility that he built up with the more minor filings has to release the 10k very soon. We've all seen how jumpy people are getting I think for some people it's becomming easier and easier to be swayed. I don't know that we'll see the 10k tomorrow. I hope to god we do. I'll believe it's there when I see it posted.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
I've been trying to figur this out so much lately I thought it should be my tag...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, congrats on the little one. This is my second. I already have the sweetest little 21 month old daddy's girl. A lot of work, but wouldn't give it up for anything. I hope every thing goes well during the birth. You'll forget all about the $54 pps of CSHD sitting in your account, the moment you see your baby. Take care.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Hmmm which will come first? The 10K or the Allstock babies of Doniboy and Cassity?

Jo
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
This is not an either or situation. Even if Rufus does not make the filing by tonight it does not mena he will have to wait 15 days to file it. They could file it at any time before the 15 day extension expires. Each individual will have to make the same decisions that have had to be made up until this point, MM's as well. No one knows the exact date it will happen. If not in the AM it could happen during the trading day or after hours tommorrow or the following day or any day.

Some of the mystery is gone with the 8KA having audited Financials but like any good mystery there is plenty of mysteries to keep you hooked.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
My baby isn't due until May, hopefully the 10k will be out before that! BTW: did anyone esle notice that the DTCC vs NOBO list on the cvsu.us has been updated. Check it out. I gotta go back to work. Later
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Well respected poster on HSM:

Originally Posted by legalnoob
Alright, I just got off the phone with Ben Stanley:

I asked him when we could expect the 10k? He responded that it would be out shortly.

I asked if "be out shortly" meant tonight afterhours. He said all he could say is that it "would be out shortly", and that they were "on top of things".

He then said he had another call to take, and needed to go. I thanked him for his time and ended the call.

LOL...Sounds like Ben... [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Rufus and Ben going on subpenny now!!!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
OTC:BB Est($) Volume Leaders

Symbols Company Name ($) Vol. Share Vol. Last Net
CSHD CSHD 13078966 4,573,065 2.8600 0.3950

HLSH HLSH 9598855 1,943,088 4.9400 -0.0200

FRPT FORCE PROTECTION, INC. 4131375 507,540 8.1400 -0.2700

SOIGF SOIGF 2507576 571,202 4.3900 0.3200

TNEN TNEN 2352105 766,158 3.0700 0.1000

MNCS MANCHESTER, INC. 1691523 224,340 7.5400 0.0400

AMRE AMERIRESOURCE TECHNOLOGIES 1592179 100,137,055 0.0159 0.0044

ACKHQ ARMSTRONG HOLDINGS, INC. 1394614 12,233,462 0.1140 -0.0510

IMFN IMPSAT FIBER NETWORKS, INC 1357790 163,000 8.3300 0.3100

SELA SEITEL, INC. 1277988 357,980 3.5700 -0.0900

HEPI HEALTH ENHANCEMENT PRODUCT 1021744 425,727 2.4000 -1.3300

PTSCE PTSCE 1004389 1,167,895 0.8600 0.0300

IDVE IDVE 986580 652,500 1.5120 -0.0480

UWNK UWINK, INC. 914893 568,257 1.6100 0.1750

UVIH UNIVERSAL INSURANCE HOLDIN 888303 365,557 2.4300 -0.0300

XOHO XOHO 888036 186,955 4.7500 -0.1300

SOEN SOEN 871549 683,568 1.2750 -0.0500

EBOF EBOF 857785 381,238 2.2500 -0.0900

XKEM XECHEM INTERNATIONAL, INC. 820732 29,104,001 0.0282 -0.0024

CWBK COMMERCEWEST BANK, NA (NEW 812500 50,000 16.2500 0.2500
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Rufus and Ben going on subpenny now!!!!

You can hear it in Paltalk, Room is Spin Offz Inc, under under business and finance...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
stocktrader22, just pointing out that there may be a nice little surprise in the morning waiting for us. -That's all.

Rufus gave us a line line and kept it to the T!!
He also said the 10k would be on time, -that's what Rufus said.

Make of it what you will [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Rufus and Ben going on subpenny now!!!!

You can hear it in Paltalk, Room is Spin Offz Inc, under under business and finance...
POST what's going on !!!!!
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
No confirming the 10k release.

Purpose for extension are there are some things they need to take care of..

very vague
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
who is that on subpenny?? tia
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
said it wouldnt be filed by friday...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Subpenny LINK PLEASE..............
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
10K will probably be filed Thursday night or Friday. The hold up is a document from the government that will put an end to the short situation in CSHD. They are dealing with growing the business and more will be comming this week.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Thursday there will be info out ...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero

Subpenny Radio link
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
could you tell him im working in LA for the day on friday so i need it out Wednesday nite please?

cant listen its full have to have a paid membership...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
folks this is great !!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Ruffas said the 10k will not be filed on friday but info will be put out about it etc talking about the reset and the equation
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I can't get in ~

Thanks for posting people!!
Keep it coming! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
reset and equation will be 15.00 not 20 etc he promises they will not risk their lives or their families by doing anything illegal
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
shareholders something is coming ur way to give ur broker to say why is my name on this?? not sure what it is
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
name not on this sorry, now they are talking about m n1 etc that it was to lower the pps mostly
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Yep...I'm with ya on those thoughts US...
BUT...some of the other posters don't have that privilege...Ameritrade stopped them from being able to...they are in or they are out...NO CHOICE...
.50 to 1.00 flips aren't bad...BUT I won't go through the night with out having shares in hand...

I truly feel sorry for those with Ameritrade, what that brokerage has done is a crime in my opinion. This is a free country and who the hell are they to limit what their clients can and cannot buy ? That's just silly.

I trade with Chuck Schwab and have never had a problem.

I do still have a few thousand shares that are my holding shares, *just in case* but my flipping shares are out of this until I see a better entry point.

14 more days isn't that bad of a wait, and gives more time for flipping profits to be made !

HAHAHAH this post reminds me of a TDAmeritrade commercial where they were saying how american they were because of letting the investor be independent and only charging 9.99 blah blah...what a bunch of babbling liars.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
talking about shareholders filing lawsuits go for it
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Can anyone sum up whats going on on subpenny?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Telling people to check em out nothing illegal peeps ignorant if they don't something multiple #s of bonds just because ur broker cannot tel u about it doesnt mean they know everything
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
luvforever is!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
we gonna deliver! theres 2 university in economics classes they studied it and have labeled this the perfect storm... The share price is gonna be where it is we promise u there will not be any naked shorting we eliminated naked shorts
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
ruffas asks...how and what is opinion why cshd could get on the berlin exchange??>???????
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
wait cshd is currently trading on the berlin market but ruffas had nothing to do with it weird theres laws against this..... confusing
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Thanks for all the well wishes, my wife and I are excited about the baby girl coming. I have a son as well.

I must say that I am very surprised at all the "longs" who are out tonight. This is depressing.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
he finds it facinating to read and see inteligent peeps and their dd ect mergers and bonds are public record pay 9 dollars to see it in court house in ga
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm still in, and after what Luvforever is saying I'm glad!

Rufus and Ben on Subpenny Radio, she keeping us informed...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
there will be problems that come along that change things but my rep is what u have saying u grabbed the wrong tiger by the tail and the tiger ate u and u are alive in the stomach lol too wild hes funny
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
No offense Luv, but I don't really understand your posts. I'm thinking there is a language barrier there.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
u do not safe harbor in ur prs if its the truth we are posting facts 90% of the time its factual already happened the truth is the truth need no safe harbor on forms
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
What has been said so far: Rufus and Ben on Sub Penny radio (by Luvforever)

10K will probably be filed Thursday night or Friday. The hold up is a document from the government that will put an end to the short situation in CSHD. They are dealing with growing the business and more will be comming this week.
Thursday there will be info out ...

Ruffas said the 10k will not be filed on friday but info will be put out about it etc talking about the reset and the equation

reset and equation will be 15.00 not 20 etc he promises they will not risk their lives or their families by doing anything illegal

shareholders something is coming ur way to give ur broker to say why is my name on this?? not sure what it is


talking about shareholders filing lawsuits go for it

Telling people to check em out nothing illegal peeps ignorant if they don't something multiple #s of bonds just because ur broker cannot tel u about it doesnt mean they know everything

we gonna deliver! theres 2 university in economics classes they studied it and have labeled this the perfect storm... The share price is gonna be where it is we promise u there will not be any naked shorting we eliminated naked shorts

ruffas asks...how and what is opinion why cshd could get on the berlin exchange??>???????

wait cshd is currently trading on the berlin market but ruffas had nothing to do with it weird theres laws against this..... confusing

he finds it facinating to read and see inteligent peeps and their dd ect mergers and bonds are public record pay 9 dollars to see it in court house in ga


there will be problems that come along that change things but my rep is what u have saying u grabbed the wrong tiger by the tail and the tiger ate u and u are alive in the stomach lol too wild hes funny
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
if everything is fact why use safe harbor his opinion but attorny says u need it if it is fact why use it anyone in market knows things change but if fact why??
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
ihub post from him he says they monitor and hired moderators on pump and dump he went out there he got emails jj called him jj director of cmkx ! moderator pushing his stock
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
oh my goodness this is crazy! his i post recent price of 54 dollar he was responding to denny poster told him he didnt want to invest in cshd pretending to be a investor so they called him a basher LOL watch who u bashing LOL
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
From HSM posts

he is promising that naked short will be eliminated and a lot of congressional watching that will make sure it's eliminated
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
from HSM:

Rufus did say something is going to happen that nobody has ever seen before!
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
More assets than $54
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
worth more than 54 reset but is setting at 15 everything is liquidated mm playing games we want that to stop you cannot change the merger its done we have it its all real !!! We want everyone to be informed
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
from HSM:

he's asking simon what he thinks of getting listed on the berlin exchange
__________________
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
All I heard so far is that the 10K will be out Thursday and then it won't be done by Friday. Whats the deal?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
From HSM:

Q. Eliminated naked shorting completely or on CSHD?

A. We are helping world market.

Rufus asks question --- u evaluate charts all time ...

Q. How and what is your opinion as to why ... we are on Berlin exchange and we traded a lot of shares.

How - Process ... Rufus says he would have to authorize it.

"We're trading by the worst case scenario." fraud pr's ... ourstreet

Q Where did they get the shares to trade in berlin?

A. No one in CSHD authorized that action.
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
going to be a real time company, thru website see instantly cash flow!!!

Talking about shareholders loggins!

Company for shareholders based on oracle platform, Rufus exited!!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Our shareholders will have their own logins and sign in and be real partners.

e.g. pull up our financials and u'll see $50000 check was sent to Bank of America for AISS.

Can see everything through web platform.

Platform is Oracle based and is fascinating.
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Unlawful for TD not to sell!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
He said JJ is the head of CMKX? Is that JJ Seabrook????

WTF is going on???????????
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
he promises there is a great package their own login their own something etc... installing something its facinating, sorry missed something, back to 54$ Question 7.21 prior to bonds as of merger then 15 reset 8ka and last 8ka of merger...voted to buy back shares at 15 but what about shareholders? How many brokers would go bankruptcy what sec regs limits whether u buy or sell a publicly traded co? find a law.. they say we are frauds but how can u sell us if we are frauds u are also hurting the market by being involved in it
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
float 37 mil... TINY !!!
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
If the idiots sell air shares, buy them they will have to be covered!
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
My wife is pregnant too Cass. Congrats!!!! Mine is due Wednesday.....

Hopefully my baby doesn't file for an extension [Smile]

LOL...that was too funny...Congrats Doniboy...is this your first? I've got a 7 week old. [Cool]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Our shareholders will have their own logins and sign in and be real partners.

e.g. pull up our financials and u'll see $50000 check was sent to Bank of America for AISS.

Can see everything through web platform.

Platform is Oracle based and is fascinating.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Boy i think im jumping in with a crap load more listening to this sorry my opinion only ok 54 at time of post on ihub was the value the reset would be to do it today would be a lot higher very exciting things taking place we have alot market will soon relize this we tell what we can worldwide etc if i told u everything today it would blow ur mind something about the richest man in the world if u can figure that out???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
No Matt, I have a 17 year old step son (my wife had him very young and she is a few years older than me). Congrats on yours.
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
hello...looking at the last several pages of the thread, i was wondering if anyone knew if there are rules/limits on extensions in this type of situation. can you file more than one? sorry if this is a silly question.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey Rat thanks for the advice, although I have some problems.

1st: I don't drink anymore, if I have to spend another month in this stock I may take it up again.

2nd: My wife's pregnant and has been sick for 10 weeks straight.(There goes the last idea)

Last: I think I have enough BUD in my system from high school, to last me the rest of my life. LOL

Let's hope for a nice early morning PR tomorrow. GLTA

Congrats to you as well Cass...first? [Cool]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
it would be mighty nice to come out on the nasdaq thats our goal...paltalk was a bad thing caught a virus it was like watching a monkey hump a football not intereted in paltalk sorry james
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Ben is laughing his head off!!
Everyone is wanting to get involved, today they were in a meeting with the nepthew of the richest man in the world!

Said it would be nice to open on Nas but they can not confirm it!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
can get in trouble for stuff rejecting calls because of trouble with law breaking stay away from silly questions
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
about 54, if they valued book value of corporation at the TIME OF THE POST on IH**, that would be value. NOT reset value. He's chewing simon out now lol. if you took his assets at the time of posting, that'd be book value/2. If you do it today, a lot higher.

ben says very exciting things will be happening. all is taking place, many different things.
__________________
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
they are calling back in fifteen minute making exception will continue interview
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
ruffas will call back in 15 minutes this is too wild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whose the son ??? comon peeps who is it???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Sultan of Brunei???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Ingvar Kamprad, the Swede who founded furniture retail chain IKEA
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
ok folks whats going on tried to type fast and missed some whats the gist??? if hes for real my goodness we are lucky peeps!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I'm listening to the program and once it's complete I will post highlights. The biggest thing I heard so far was the fact that CSHD files everything with the courthouse in Georgia and everything is public record and accessable to everyone. All the deals everything is there.

Back later with more


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I am completely freaked out right now....
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
chart are u on yet?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doniboy...nothing depressing...and I don't think that there are any longs that are "out"...


quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Thanks for all the well wishes, my wife and I are excited about the baby girl coming. I have a son as well.

I must say that I am very surprised at all the "longs" who are out tonight. This is depressing.


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
how do you get to subpenny from paltalk??? Spinoffs?? Help!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
donni, wlly, whoever whats ur take?
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
can anyone help me with the extension question?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Wally....and good work Luv!!!


quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I'm listening to the program and once it's complete I will post highlights. The biggest thing I heard so far was the fact that CSHD files everything with the courthouse in Georgia and everything is public record and accessable to everyone. All the deals everything is there.

Back later with more


GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
I think it is cause they had more to add so it doesnt look like it will be filed this week but info will be out thursday! per ruffas
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
dont know how to do that from paltalk
go back a page or two to the link we are back!!!!!!!!!! with micke
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
All I heard so far is that the 10K will be out Thursday and then it won't be done by Friday. Whats the deal?

As I posted earlier. Rufus said they are waiting for a document from the government that should arrive Thursday at 5PM. Once they get that document the 10K will be filed. It could be Thursday night or Friday. But won't comment because of expectations.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Sorry sugar, I am not certain but I am under the impression that they can only file this extension once, and they have 14 days to get the actual filing done or they could risk delisting...and I doubt that Rufus came this far to only get delsited...Look for Wally's post tongiht and hopefully we should have some good answers in a few....

quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
can anyone help me with the extension question?


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Rufas is awsome...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
donni, wlly, whoever whats ur take?

I'll give my take after it's over and I've had a few minutes to digest what I heard. I don't like doing it on the fly.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Sorry sugar, I am not certain but I am under the impression that they can only file this extension once, and they have 14 days to get the actual filing done or they could risk delisting...and I doubt that Rufus came this far to only get delsited...Look for Wally's post tongiht and hopefully we should have some good answers in a few....

quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
can anyone help me with the extension question?


sweet!!! thanx ten! [Wink]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
wally i thoght he said info thursday and wont be able to file friday yet??
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
chart did u get on yet???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
From what I read I thought these people were out.
uncle smelly
dollar13
MikeSC
stocktrader22
And I thought Taxback was taking time out to play other things. Am I reading wrong?


quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Doniboy...nothing depressing...and I don't think that there are any longs that are "out"...


quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Thanks for all the well wishes, my wife and I are excited about the baby girl coming. I have a son as well.

I must say that I am very surprised at all the "longs" who are out tonight. This is depressing.



 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Sorry sugar, I am not certain but I am under the impression that they can only file this extension once, and they have 14 days to get the actual filing done or they could risk delisting...and I doubt that Rufus came this far to only get delsited...Look for Wally's post tongiht and hopefully we should have some good answers in a few....

quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
can anyone help me with the extension question?


They are allowed only one extension which they received. From what I'm hearing so far, it won't matter since things should culminate this week.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
10, I know that AIG insurance filed for 3 delays when they were having their problems.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I am on!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
From what I read I thought these people were out.
uncle smelly
dollar13
MikeSC
stocktrader22
And I thought Taxback was taking time out to play other things. Am I reading wrong?


quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Doniboy...nothing depressing...and I don't think that there are any longs that are "out"...


quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Thanks for all the well wishes, my wife and I are excited about the baby girl coming. I have a son as well.

I must say that I am very surprised at all the "longs" who are out tonight. This is depressing.



Don't worry about who's out and who's in...after the subpenny radio...I would be in...that's my take..this is amazing information.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
The biggest thing ruffas said was that he was not going to go to jail over fraud and he also told our street to come he would prove himself more or less but they cant find our street lol
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Ruffas did say the rest will be 15.00 he said it is worth way more than 54 now! we are still waiting for him to come back
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i tried looking them up via that link http://www.gsccca.org/ to the georgia state records and couldnt find anything?

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I'm listening to the program and once it's complete I will post highlights. The biggest thing I heard so far was the fact that CSHD files everything with the courthouse in Georgia and everything is public record and accessable to everyone. All the deals everything is there.

Back later with more


GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
wally i thoght he said info thursday and wont be able to file friday yet??

I'll have to reread my post but I thought I had said Thursday or Friday.

That's why I want to wait until things have settled to post highlights.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
What a night, Rufus and Ben on subpenny Tut posting on HSM, all the big guns are out tonight after the quite of the last few days!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
bb ruffas said u had to pay 9 dollars to see them and now ruffas is calling back
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
10K will probably be filed Thursday night or Friday. The hold up is a document from the government that will put an end to the short situation in CSHD. They are dealing with growing the business and more will be comming this week.

GLTA
Wally

Here was my original post

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i tried looking them up via that link http://www.gsccca.org/ to the georgia state records and couldnt find anything?

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I'm listening to the program and once it's complete I will post highlights. The biggest thing I heard so far was the fact that CSHD files everything with the courthouse in Georgia and everything is public record and accessable to everyone. All the deals everything is there.

Back later with more


GLTA
Wally


I wonder if they were referring to pacer like filings
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i did pay and still didnt see them. and its 5 dollars for 4 hours of access.

but thats to see the details. u can search for free.

and 25 cents per page to print.

quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
bb ruffas said u had to pay 9 dollars to see them and now ruffas is calling back


 
Posted by dog on :
 
Bottomline: No 10K til Friday at the soonest.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Rufas just posted on
Subpennyradio.com will not take my call. HMMMMMMMM

make your own conclusion..


rufas ' post
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
all i found on that website was info about james and loraine harris that did deals w rufus.

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i did pay and still didnt see them. and its 5 dollars for 4 hours of access.

but thats to see the details. u can search for free.

and 25 cents per page to print.

quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
bb ruffas said u had to pay 9 dollars to see them and now ruffas is calling back



 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Ruffas is back
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
rufas back on!!!
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
I actually got on to listen...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
he doesnt want a conference with anyonenot james etc
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Where they all the same filing?
As for the people that are out? US said he was still in for 5k and I think the others were holding off on adding...but I could be wrong...
and as MN said...it doesn't matter...but sounds like we all missed our chance to get more cheaper... [Big Grin]


quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
10, I know that AIG insurance filed for 3 delays when they were having their problems.


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
all i found on that website was info about james and loraine harris that did deals w rufus.

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i did pay and still didnt see them. and its 5 dollars for 4 hours of access.

but thats to see the details. u can search for free.

and 25 cents per page to print.

quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
bb ruffas said u had to pay 9 dollars to see them and now ruffas is calling back



He was talking about actual court documents.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
talking about lady who bought fhal. question to get shares transferred.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
if shares don't come from us they are not real shares...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Don't you think PPS will drop?
They admitted that the 10K was dependent on information that they will receive at 6pm on Thursday.

So I'm saying... no 10K until Friday. We'll see what effect it has on the PPS.
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
He sounds like a GOB
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
they will get everyone their shares even if they dont have it in their names even if they own air shares he will fix it u will own them
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
scariest thing as a CEO. Naked shorting. air shares.

get certs if you had FHAL!!!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
they tell them u dont need ur certs but they wanted u to so they knew who owns them
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
JJ Seabrook is pissed and is on Ihub calling Rufus a wacko.....
This is unbelievable.....
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
he is giving the guy **** again!! LOL
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
chart are u on yet?

yes! fell behind reading! NICE JOB!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
do they mean before ur shares changed to cshd?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Ihub is under the biggest Basher attack I have ever seen.....

Stockwork 10/2/2006 11:16:18 PM
#90396 Rufus may be clinically insane in my opinion, Dimension 10/2/2006 11:15:13 PM
#90395 And we thought the Titanic was bad.....wait until neom2006 10/2/2006 11:12:15 PM
#90394 Really, it's a scam? all of a Dimension 10/2/2006 11:11:16 PM
#90393 lol. Sad but true. SammyTheBull 10/2/2006 11:11:10 PM
#90392 Important Information! Firehawk7_2000 10/2/2006 11:10:57 PM
#90391 I think it's more like this. schadenfreude 10/2/2006 11:10:08 PM
#90390 IF Rufus said that, He's a LIAR! JJSeabrook 10/2/2006 11:09:02 PM
#90389 http://www.forbes.com/billionaires cramptonmotorsports 10/2/2006 11:07:08 PM
#90388 I think that Rufus knows after making this neom2006 10/2/2006 11:06:35 PM
#90387 Speaking about TDA, I happened to call them yaadmon 10/2/2006 11:05:38 PM
#90386 Now come on Sammy, quit atating the facts, Hunter6110 10/2/2006 11:05:25 PM
#90385 Curious...why is market condition a requirement to filing Dimension
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
the three options are as is!!! cannot change it !!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
The chest moves..

flip or be long. They considered buying back all the shares. Or the buyback - shareprice. All in 8 K
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
He really really hates shorty.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
we will work with peeps...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
RUfus just told the SHorts to kiss his butt
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
He is saying that no one has contacted him trying to work out the short situation...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
ben and rufas arguing. KISS MY BUT PEOPLE!!!
meaning shorts
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
we will work with peeps...kiss my butt he says!!! lol ben put out a pr for mm to work with but no one has reached out for it!!!
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Asking rufus about a grace period for covering if it opens on the nasdaq

...next 24-48 hrs if they wanna work with them
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
if they do not reach out they will not let anyone get help after the reset so mms to call now
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
24-48 hours for the shorts to contact Rufas. Period.

we are going to hit so hard they are not going to have time to consider...

So many projects already signed.
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
I think I just heard rufus spit into a spitune
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
why not just release the info to show theyre serious and let it come up in stages... organically?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
ahhh..

simon is still at work...

kewl
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Q- About NOBO list. is the # of shares overstated. from NEW MARKET


oh god this is funny

Ben says we should be careful so they don't come kill our families.. LOL

DTC report. 22- 31 mil. Changes every time

you just aked me a question on Insider info.

be careful... we are done...

LOLOLOLOL
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
we are past playing stage the grand kids will say stuff , blah blahanyways if someone calls says inside info if it is someone who works for him he will fire them and prosecute them!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
hey tex:

Form 144: Intention to Sell Restricted Securities
Form 144s must be filed as notice of the proposed sale of restricted securities. Restricted securities are those that are acquired directly or indirectly from an issuer or an affiliate in a transaction (or chain of transactions) not involving a public offering.

Not all Form 144 filers are insiders. Any entity owning restricted stock must file a Form 144 prior to selling the restricted stock. Any insider who files a Form 144, must file a Form 4 if and when the sale is completed. To determine if a given filer is an insider, you may click on the insider name. If the individual is listed as a shareholder, he or she is not an insider.

An insider may file a Form 144 and not actually complete the sale. If the sale was completed, the insider should have filed a Form 4, indicating the transaction was completed.

The Form 144 must be filed prior to, or on the approximate date, of sale. Insiders are governed by SEC regulations when they file a Form 144. The following considerations should be kept in mind when you are searching Form 144s. These considerations apply to insiders only - see the above definition (not shareholders or restricted stock owners):

* The filing of Form 144 is not required in any case where the amount of stock to be sold during any three (3) month period does not exceed 500 shares and the aggregate sale value does not exceed $10,000.
* If the seller does not sell all the stock covered by the form within 90 days after the filing, the filing process must be repeated before the commencement of further sales, except in cases where the passage of time has extended the seller's holding period.

A Form 144 appears as a "Planned Sale" on the Yahoo! insider pages. Form 144 filings only include estimates for the sale proceeds, since, by their nature, they don't entail an actual transaction. In the event that the Form 144 is acted upon, the filing is replaced with the actual transaction along with the realized proceeds from the sale.

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/fin/research/research-18.html


seems different to me ...

An insider may file a Form 144 and not actually complete the sale. If the sale was completed, the insider should have filed a Form 4, indicating the transaction was completed.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
be careful aboutbashing they are threating his family etc. from the past we told u fellows we are back from the best look over ur shoulders
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
ahhh..

simon is still at work...

kewl

tex they mentioned your name earlier..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Rufus is really not liking the shorts....AT ALL!
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
he just said "who is in and who is out"
heard that before somewhere
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Rufus will back us as shareholders....no matter what...both Certs or electronic...as long as it is documented...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Heck I'm lov'n this!!! lol ~
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
This is crazy. Ben is laughing like he is drunk.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I can't get in...This is the oddest thing I have ever seen/heard/read...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I couldn't get in so keep posting!

Purdy please ~ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
call ruffas ben and see if ur name is on they will get u the 15$ share they will get it for u if u have air shares ur name is on the list or not ????
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Can anyone ask a question of sub penny?
they are talking about your actual name being on there list...I know that mine is not...I had called the TA...can you ask him what you are to do...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
amtrd. sent them a message saying they are not allowed to short staocks... They are laughing.

each and every shareholder will be taken care of


Get hard copy certs..
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I've been monitoring this and find it very entertaining. Keep it coming.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I can't get in...This is the oddest thing I have ever seen/heard/read...

you should have been on board the last month and a half!

Just when you think you heard it all.... -you haven't heard anything yet!

That's the "norm" for this stock!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
they recommended certs over and over what about cash accounts the 29th was it!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
29th. it was over- they cannot short the stock anymore.

talking about Berlin exchange and how messed up it is
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
As of the 29th it is too late to cover your short position.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
the 29th with or without!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is scary stuff peeps! That was the end date for this
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
they mentioned atrade scottrade etc brokerage firms lost licenses etc because of fake shares
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Too late for certs they are saying... I am liking every single word. I think I know what the final step is that they are talking about.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
This is crazy. Ben is laughing like he is drunk.

maybe you're right...

peeps do weird chit, for sure.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
rufas never shuts up.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Im confused about this 29th thing? If we bought shares before that day, not to short, but just bought, we're safe right?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hello!!!

Whats goin on you guys???
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I went to I-hub Jail.... LOL
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
talking about ihub jail
rufus got incarcerated
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I took a month and a half off. I originally bought at .22 and sold in the $1.60 range. So I am old school with a little time off...LOL. I was actually asked to be the Mod on the IHUB board when Digiwench was Mod, but I declined because I am too busy and JJ seabrook took it.

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I can't get in...This is the oddest thing I have ever seen/heard/read...

you should have been on board the last month and a half!

Just when you think you heard it all.... -you haven't heard anything yet!

That's the "norm" for this stock!


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
talking about getting thrown in Ihub jail...and laughing
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
hes saying about going to ihub jail lol
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rat, all hells breaking loose! ha ~ Rufus and Ben on Sub Penny radio ~
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Hey BuyTex, what is your take on all this?

quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
This is crazy. Ben is laughing like he is drunk.

maybe you're right...

peeps do weird chit, for sure.


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
call your broker get shares in your name..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
cool Doniboy ~
Welcome back, and just in time me thinks! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
29th was last day for short if u bought today u may want to request certs u may not get it right away but they can have it in 3 4 days if they dont getem to u but u ask Q call the transfer agent to see if u have them tell them u want in ur name
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Help me out with "streets name"...
Xactly what does that mean..? newb
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
the 29th...he said that if you bought the stock today then it is fine, but ask to get your CERTS
Call your broker and tell them to hold your shares in your name...not the street name...that is how they are shorting...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
if u buy from now on you need to call broker to get them in ur name make sure they are in ur name not street name
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Your brokers name=street name......

quote:
Originally posted by LincolnSqueezer:
Help me out with "streets name"...
Xactly what does that mean..? newb


 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Rufus is talking big chit...TDAM changing upper mgt
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Your brokers name=street name......

quote:
Originally posted by LincolnSqueezer:
Help me out with "streets name"...
Xactly what does that mean..? newb


Preesh
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
They suggest that if you call your broker and tell them that you want your shares held in your name not in the street name, and that will lock your shares so that the can not short them...
they will still be free trading for you.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
people did call way back and ask, and they said theyre in street name and that was that.

so what do we do after that, when TDAm just says "thats the way we do it?"
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Thanks 10!! good stuff!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Your name must be in the book at the TA when the hammer falls...if not then they will help you...if need be
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
well then theyre gonna need to help cuz TDAm said they wouldnt do it when they were asked...

already tried it.

they said thats the way they do it. they hold them in street name.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Rufas said that this is your right...AND if there is a problem...then he will help...AFTER the hammer falls...but e said that they "MUST"

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
people did call way back and ask, and they said theyre in street name and that was that.

so what do we do after that, when TDAm just says "thats the way we do it?"


 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
so what do we do? We call scottrade and tell them ur name ? confused
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
TDAmeritrade....I'm still waiting for shares of PAVC from August 17th. Good luck with them.

My CSHD shares are with Fidelity. Has anyone requested certs with them?

Jo
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
rufus looking for the kickback on the ads...?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
TDAmeritrade....I'm still waiting for shares of PAVC from August 17th. Good luck with them.

My CSHD shares are with Fidelity. Has anyone requested certs with them?

Jo

Still waitting on Scotty with PAVC shares too!
FYI
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
They suggest that if you call your broker and tell them that you want your shares held in your name not in the street name, and that will lock your shares so that the can not short them...
they will still be free trading for you.

OK..... Not tryin' to be stupid here..... But, What????

I hate tryin' this catch-up chit....
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Talking about JJ now
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK, I know I'm being repetitive, but I am still freaked out.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Wow!!!! Rufas has set aside 900 Million to pay each shareholder $15 if needed. Wow!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Going with choice b...and I think that might be where you will need to have your name on the TA list...you will only get the $
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rat.

$15 price reset

No more naked shorts.
HUGE deals already signed.
Pr out soon
10k on Friday

etc..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee
Rufus said that if you call your broker and tell them that you want your stock held in your name not their name(the broker=street name)

THEY also will have MM in the near future...after the 10K but working with them now
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
"It is an option of the board of directors and the ceo to buy back the stock at up to $35.00."
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
If they are uncomfortable with the way the market is going they will buy their shares back from the market
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'll take $15 bucks per share right now.
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
stop feeding the beast=quit panic selling
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I'll take $15 bucks per share right now.

Maybe wait for the 10k ~

Rufus said this would be the next Google once!
$100 -$200 a share. No chit ~

I think I'm starting to believe him! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Talking about the M N 1 pr and the set up...no one is doing anything about it...
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
This is one CONFIDENT MOFO!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
All the 10K is, is a recap of everything that has been filed.


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
I'm a little confused about the buy back...is that a voluntary thing? I had NO intention of selling at that price...that isn't going to be a MANDATORY thing is it? I'm pretty sure I'm just being paranoid here though...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Stop panic selling...ONLY listen to them and their PR's.not the bashers and market crap...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
10k is out in form of 8k LOL
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
we have aditional contracts on the table...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
any word on STOCK OPTIONS yet?!!!!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
we are getting nothing more in 10k lol 29th was the drop for the sho list certificate exchang ur shares are not real
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Rufie is gonna buy a lawfirm and "Straighten it up"
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
i think he is saying we are screwed if we didnt get it put in our name on the 29th???? I hope not cause I never understood that
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LincolnSqueezer:
Rufie is gonna buy a lawfirm and "Straighten it up"

He wasn't completely serious.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
how many attornys have we met that have brains of cottage cheese ben.... A lot
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Waiting on 29th NOBO list and it was the date for the FHAL share swap...(doesn't concern us) the NOBO list was pulled and they are waiting on verification of it in order to file the 10K..

(And yeah...I think that Ben just burped an answer))
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
i think he is saying we are screwed if we didnt get it put in our name on the 29th???? I hope not cause I never understood that

I think that was fhal....
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
michael alexander is an outstanding individual....he just completed a major deal.. Be careful.. almost let the cat out of the bag..
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
How does he feel about Michael Alexander

quote:
Rufus: I think he is an outstanding individual. I have nothing but respect for him.

Ben: Mike has just completed a big....

Rufus to Ben: Watch it, be careful.



 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
so are u saying everyone with scottrade that has shares of cshd are ok if not in your name?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
BB...start searching Mike Alexander...we may have our next play....
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
why doesn't CSHD offer a cash dividend.

Because I promise you you will never see anything like this when the trigger is pulled.
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
I bought when it was fhal does that mean I am screwed?
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Timothy Miles....confirmed an idot!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
No...I think that it is more for the CERT swap....your Broker should have switched it for you....
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
I bought when it was fhal does that mean I am screwed?


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
timothy miles is an idiot. and prob. tied to new york post... LOL
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
thanks
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Ben nearly let the cat out of the bag, something to do with Mike Alexander and a big deal, Amazon Log perhaps?!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
so as long as it says u have cshd in ur account are we ok?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i DD'd him to death, couldnt narrow the search too vague
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
c&d was a fake!!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What was a fake?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
C/D
Can't do it....never happened...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
im confused
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
New Rufusism..."If its too stupid to be true, don't believe it"
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
man rufas is a rambler.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL...keep trying...it sounds like it might be a good one...
Get you cheerleaders out...
You can do it, you can do it, if you put your mind to it!....LOL [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i DD'd him to death, couldnt narrow the search too vague


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Rufas call was lost. Taking a break
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LincolnSqueezer:
New Rufusism..."If its too stupid to be true, don't believe it"

He was talking about the C&D and how it involved a securities contract and how you just cant ..well...call a do over.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
So while we are in this break.... I own shares through scottrade ... Are they real shares.???
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Hate to ask the question again, but if your account says CSHD and you dont have the certs are we safe?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Hate to ask the question again, but if your account says CSHD and you dont have the certs are we safe?

I am more confused than before listening to this.

I guess assuming would be a stupid thing to do. I am calling them in the A.M.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LOL...keep trying...it sounds like it might be a good one...
Get you cheerleaders out...
You can do it, you can do it, if you put your mind to it!....LOL [Wink]

sorry the cheerleaders went home, all we got awake is the funky chicken...

 -
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Did he say how to search that georgia court site?

I tried searching it myself and it seems there are to many different catagories...and to many different ways their name can be listed...

songwi,CSHD,conversion solutions,fronthaul,harris,stanley, etc, etc...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
All I can say at this point is if RUFUS isn't real then he must be phoning this in from a mental institution. It sounds huge on many different fronts.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Rufie said that if you had problems (correct me anyone who was listening) he'd make sure you got the 15 then go after the rest from who owed you?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LOL...keep trying...it sounds like it might be a good one...
Get you cheerleaders out...
You can do it, you can do it, if you put your mind to it!....LOL [Wink]

sorry the cheerleaders went home, all we got awake is the funky chicken...

 -

BB where do you get these characters??
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I listened to Rufus live on the radio tonite and I am totally impressed with him. He doesn't look or sound like the regular CEO type but, I like his style. I like it so much that I am going to buy quite a bit more stock tomorrow. He answered everything I wanted to hear and every question I had.I have to admit that even though he is very gruff and southern good old boy.....I really am impressed with him and his corporation. There is little doubt in my mind that this is a winner.
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
Sounds like we have a good subject of our next PR.
 
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
 
wonder what will happen if I sell my Aturd shares that are not in my name and are probably air shares?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
LOL
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Thanks and thanks, I think. Gonna have to open up a Rufus account [Big Grin]
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Who here knows Ben's background. He doesn't sound as I had expected.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
asked about shorting, rufus says "They're robbing you dead, why are they goin to stop now! The SEC is allowing it! Request certs, call TA - make sure shares are held in your name."

Sounds like Rufus will finance the shorts if necessary, but they will repay.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Rufus is back on for three more questions.
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
encore 3 more Q:s
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
of course he is. he's awake til at least 3am [Wink]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
rufas is back on
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
he has three girls....

call your broker to make sure the shares are in your name. Thats the only way the can be sure.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
we need your name in the book so you can do the login on the website. portfolio system on website
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Wow this is a great phone call. I have been reading your posts and listening at the same time. I am thouroughly sold. If my funds do not show at my broker in the AM I may have to give MNBAD or ETurd a physical visit! LOL
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Are there any questions that you want me to try and ask?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
real time financials.

It will be an electronically pulled report for every shareholder
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
Thanks wallymac et al for the updates. I can't get subpenny on my computer and my DSL was down. The recaps are hilarious, nerve racking and amazing all in one.

Thank god for Shiraz. I'm half a bottle down.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
1)_Buy ur Shares....2)Contact ur broker .... 3) Electronically in ur name and if they say no.. then DTCC Transfer and if yes Call the TA and confirm ur name is in the Book
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
I listened to Rufus live on the radio tonite and I am totally impressed with him. He doesn't look or sound like the regular CEO type but, I like his style. I like it so much that I am going to buy quite a bit more stock tomorrow. He answered everything I wanted to hear and every question I had.I have to admit that even though he is very gruff and southern good old boy.....I really am impressed with him and his corporation. There is little doubt in my mind that this is a winner.

That's exactly how I feel!!!

I can hear the "Duke's Of Hazzard" song now


just the good old boys never meanin' no harm.....

welcome back Doc!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
702-317-7757 TA phone number
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Chicks dig the southern drawl..?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
RUFUS IS VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!

I've never felt so confident about this as I do now!!!

I listened to it too tonight & I will post the "notes" I took in the morning. We can all Relax now & have a good night sleep . Good night all!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
HA HA Rufas says the women overseas love a southern draw!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Integrity stock transfer 877-317-7757
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
through a dtcc transfer.

don at 702-317-7757 Integrity stock transfer


Overseas the women love his southern draw.. LOL
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
why do you post on I-hub. Because someone has to do something about this fraud.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
It's weird listening to Rufus talking about "your name needs to be in the book" over and over again. Where have I heard that before? LOL!

quote:
Daniel 12:1-3 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society

The End Times
1 "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 Those who are wise [a] will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever.


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Mr. our street called and reported him to SEC...and they simply called and asked if he posted on IHUB...and the Humanitarian C/D thing...
12 questions toltal...no biggie
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Either what I put out in a Press Release is real or I need to go to jail-Rufus


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Holy Cow Jo 4321, That is weird!!! This whole thing has been NUTS!!! But a good NUTS!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
and he ain't goin' to jail for nobody
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Either what I put out in a Press Release is real or I need to go to jail-Rufus


GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Rufas, "I would not want to be lied to by a CEO of a company that I invest in." in regards to why he doesn't like to present disclaimers.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
he said that he will give the info of his book value and go from there....BUT all he HAS to do set it to 15.00
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
$15 is the reset, period the market will adjust from there


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
15 is what is in the merger agreement but we feel it is worth X. the market will adjust the price higher.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
don't listen to the spinnsters
they are out to do harm...and if your doing it..you will go to jail!
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Rufus on Mensah:
Genius that couldn't manage his way out of a cardboard box
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
mensah couldn't mange his way out of a cardboard box...:LOLLLOLOLO
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
hello, can anyone tell me if this is on paltalk? if so what room? thank you
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
y'allz i gotta get beauty sleep before work.

i havent DTC'd my shares to my choicetrade account simply cuz i dont wanna get caught in between if the 10k comes out.

so knowing i have til thursday at least, maybe ill do that tomorrow am.

thx for posting the notes. mucho appreciated cuz i couldnt get into the call!

ill read up in the am.

nitey! [Smile]
~BB
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mathis:
hello, can anyone tell me if this is on paltalk? if so what room? thank you

subpenny radio
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
the room I'm in is called Spin offz Inc
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by mathis:
hello, can anyone tell me if this is on paltalk? if so what room? thank you

subpenny radio
Thanks a surfer but search found nothing..
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
thanks jo and a surfer i am in
thanks!!!
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Delay of 10k because of 2 huge deals coming up on friday that will now be in!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Delay of 10k because of 2 huge deals coming up on friday that will now be in!!!!!!!!!!!!

heard it also!
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
they want to eliminate shorties to know who the shareholders are
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee
Rufus said that if you call your broker and tell them that you want your stock held in your name not their name(the broker=street name)

THEY also will have MM in the near future...after the 10K but working with them now

Sorry just getting caught up here...does this apply to etrade?
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
trust nothing but the 8k
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good night all. I'm wiped.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Vin....he said all brokers...it is our right to have them hold them in our name and not theirs...

I'm going to bed now guys...sleep well...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Thanks 10. Had horrible storms come through Chicago and lost some power. Just getting caught up on everything now.
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
I said this morning, notice MURF on ask at $7!!!

Rufus just said they are their for a reason and its not to buy air shares!!!!!!
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Hey Vin, I surprised my husband with a birthday party in Chicago tonight. Yjey closed down the freeway due to flooding. It took us 3 hours to get back to Milwaukee. Now I've got to read to see what I missed today, I know it's good from this last page...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
HOLY CRAP....THAT WAS AMAZING!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
ok so folks that are still awake... did it sound like these discount brokers have screwed us? Are you all gonna get yours in your name? I mean if you are gonna be long??
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Im leaving mine in street name.

IMO THAT sounds like too much like a trap. The process to sell is timely when you have to sign off on them..

Seeing how this stock can go any which way quickly, I dont think its the soundest advice.

Im sure your broker is 100% responsible if you go to sell later and they sold you shares that arent available.

Someone correct me if im wrong.. but theres no need to do it.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
yeah but it sounds if you want in for the reset you could get left out....my opinion from what I heard tonight
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
and he ain't goin' to jail for nobody
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Either what I put out in a Press Release is real or I need to go to jail-Rufus


GLTA
Wally


YEah 10, I liked that quote!
This is crazy madness is the best kinda way crazy madness can be!!!
Good Morning Everyone and Godspeed!!!!
Off to work and ready for great things!!!!
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
$15 is the reset, period the market will adjust from there


GLTA
Wally

Wow Wally wasn't that an awesome and totally unorthodox intervieew!!!!
About the Reset I got the impression and I think Simon clarified this, but the $15 is what's set up in the Merger 8K but He may try to go higher with it... and that if the MM's and or Nasdaq approves a higher reset due to the finacial statements in the 10K and 8K then they may very well go higher... seemed like Rufus was insinuating higher, but at least $15
Whatever it is, this thing is gonna make us richer and some really bad people poorer! What More can We ask!!!??? Right!!!
Waaaa Hoooo!!!
Ima
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
Now you all have heard for yourselves just how potentially big and important this company is for all of you. The 10k was originally planned to be out a lot sooner but because of the speed with which the company is moving ahead there are other deals that need to be included and hence the timeline change but it is in the company's and shareholders best interest. There could also be other reasons but again it is in the shareholders and company's best interests. That there are other things in the plans to overcome the shorts probably are also part of the timing strategy and sometimes timelines need to change if it is for the better of all concerned.

I believe after tonights interview you may have gotten a better idea just how serious this company is and why every shareholder is in what is potentially a very rare and unique opportunity that they may never experience again. Remember all the excellent due diligence you have done has already given you the answers to what this company can do for all shareholders. Don't let anyone shake your belief but after tonight I believe you have strengthened your belief because of what you have heard.


TUT POST
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I've asked TDA previously if they could hold my shares in my name and they said no. They said the only way to get them in my name is to request the certs. Has anyone had any luck with other brokerage houses that will hold your stocks in your name?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
So, if TDAm won't put it in your name, and you don't get the Certs....,,,What happens???
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
The thing with putting the CERTS in your name or having the broker hold them in your name is so that if they were to go with option B or if they were to give some type of Divie...that RFUS needs to know where to send the money and to who...


quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
So, if TDAm won't put it in your name, and you don't get the Certs....,,,What happens???


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Hey guys can I be the DD king now [Big Grin]

here's the link to all the stuff filed in the GA courts Rufus was talking about that we could never find. Sorry the link is dead I removed it, but I did find it I did pay for a 4 hour membership for $5. go to the www.gsccca.org link then go to state index. select realestate. For name of company type in conversion solutions inc.
I set the date range from 01/01/2004-10/02/2006. try that guys and let me know if it works.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
if anyone missed the second half of the interview its on right now. It still has 2 hours to go.

Ryan if you get that link to work I will call you king for a day.. LOL
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
oh it works... king
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ok here you go. try this

http://www.gsccca.org/Search/RealEstate/namesearch.asp

Now all you have to do is type in the info and search.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ok guys unless I missed it. I didn't see anything about the deals with the institutional buyers. I did find one of the bonds from venezuela, and the Humanitarian one. Now I might of missed some stuff, but I found a lot also. AISS contract is there also. I don't really have time to read everything. Hope it helps guys.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
REAL ESTATE INDEX


Name Search Display: 5 10 25 50 75 100 results per page.


Name Selected: CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP
Searched: All Parties in All Counties for All Instruments
User selected dates from 1/1/2004 through 10/2/2006
System good from 1/5/1993 through 8/10/2006 - Subject to All County Good From/Thru Dates
Query made: 10/3/2006 8:17:04 AM
Table Display Type: Regular 1 Line 1 Line No Wrap

Click on the or to display the document.

BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2105 PAGE: 996
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: MERGER AGREEMENT


BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2105 PAGE: 996
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: MERGER AGREEMENT


BARTOW County MISCELLANEOUS FILED: 9/22/2006 BOOK: 2109 PAGE: 751
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: RESOLUTION


BARTOW County MISCELLANEOUS FILED: 9/22/2006 BOOK: 2109 PAGE: 751
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: RESOLUTION


2 Instrument(s) Found
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this is off the site... Mike
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
REAL ESTATE INDEX


Name Search Document Display

Searched Book: 2105
Page: 996 in BARTOW County
County good from 1/3/1992 through 9/27/2006
Query made: 10/3/2006 8:19:43 AM
County Instrument Type Date Filed Time Book Page
BARTOW CONTRACT 9/13/2006 2:16:00 PM 2105 996

Description not warranted
MERGER AGREEMENT

Sec/GMD District Land Lot Subdivision Unit Block Lot Comment

Grantor
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS INC
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC

Grantee
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS INC
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC

This record was added to the statewide Deed database index on 9/16/2006


Here are the records.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
surfer were you able to click and read the doc's. Way to tag team this DD surfer.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
REAL ESTATE INDEX


Name Search Document Display

Searched Book: 2109
Page: 751 in BARTOW County
County good from 1/3/1992 through 9/27/2006
Query made: 10/3/2006 8:21:56 AM
County Instrument Type Date Filed Time Book Page
BARTOW MISCELLANEOUS 9/22/2006 8:29:00 AM 2109 751

Description not warranted
RESOLUTION

Sec/GMD District Land Lot Subdivision Unit Block Lot Comment

Grantor
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP
CONVERSIONS SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP

Grantee
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP
CONVERSIONS SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP

This record was added to the statewide Deed database index on 9/27/2006 4:55:08 PM
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
REAL ESTATE INDEX


Name Search Document Display

Searched Book: 2105
Page: 996 in BARTOW County
County good from 1/3/1992 through 9/27/2006
Query made: 10/3/2006 8:22:48 AM
County Instrument Type Date Filed Time Book Page
BARTOW CONTRACT 9/13/2006 2:16:00 PM 2105 996

Description not warranted
MERGER AGREEMENT

Sec/GMD District Land Lot Subdivision Unit Block Lot Comment

Grantor
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS INC
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC

Grantee
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS CORP
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS INC
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC



yes I can click on them... These are the documents
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Oh I know just wanted to make sure you can read them with out.paying.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Holy cow what a morning!!!

Been reading for 1/2 hour!! LOL ~~

I'm so lONG in this!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
Good Moring Board!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
chart whats ur take getting certs or just playing it? tia
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
there's stuff in there under songwi too.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
OK...now Rufus says option B? Did I get that right? And that means I need shares in my name so he knows who to send the check to. So, since I'm with Aturd I have some work to do. Either they put the shares in my name, I pull the certs, or transfer to a different broker.

I wish I had more than second hand info from an interview in the middle of the night to work from here.

I had no intention of selling at reset so option B pisses me off more than a little. Correct me please if I'm screwed up...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
chart whats ur take getting certs or just playing it? tia

Rufus DIDN'T say to get certs!!!!....

He said it IS OUR RIGHT to have our shares put in OUR NAME instead of the Brokers name (street name)

This WILL NOT "hold up" your selling like if you put your shares into certs...

It's a safe quick way to PROTECT yourself is what I gather....
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I just called. I have requested a cert which can be mailed to me at a $40 dollar charge. I only had $25 left in my cash balance so I have to wait three days for funds to clear clear from from a trade of another stock. I may wire money into my account today to have it available to get the certs mailed tomorrow. Please call etrade if you have an account with them. Don't piss and moan over a measily $40 charge for them to mail the certs because you'll be rich anyway.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Sorry for the double words in the last posts I need more coffee to wake up.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Good morning everyone. Wow, so darn much to catch up on this morning. Just so I got this right, we want our brokers hold the certs in our name, not send us the certs, correct? Once when I requested certs, there was a charge for it. Does anyone know if there's a charge for them holding them in our names?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
So... I'm NOT getting certs....

But I am going to call Scotty and have ALL of my shares put in MY NAME vs. my brokers name (street name)

cool? [Smile]

OMG people...
Do you have any idea what this company will be trading for in a years time if this is all true?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Good morning everyone. Wow, so darn much to catch up on this morning. Just so I got this right, we want our brokers hold the certs in our name, not send us the certs, correct? Once when I requested certs, there was a charge for it. Does anyone know if there's a charge for them holding them in our names?

NO CHARGE to hold in your name!

There is a charge to get certs though... And with certs you can't sell as quickly, but with this company, who wants to bale? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
OMG people...
Do you have any idea what this company will be trading for in a years time if this is all true?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never thought of it.... [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Vin, from what I understand is that etrade would only mail the actual certs to your physical addresss. You would be holding the actual certs in your hand.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
no what he was saying is if you are using a discount broker you could have airshares, but if you have the shares in your name and call the ta to be sure you are on the list as the holder you will be honored in the reset and garenteed the 15 dollar reset for your shares he has an account to help everyone that is on the list but if u are not he can not help you but if you have a trillion overexagerated he can only help you to a point he will do what he can but may not to give you everything but will be fair... thats what i took as far as airshares if you get screwed from the broker and didnt get your name on the list my opinion i could have misunderstood help if i did tia
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Hey chart have you checked out all the contracts that surfer and I dug up.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
So... I'm NOT getting certs....

But I am going to call Scotty and have ALL of my shares put in MY NAME vs. my brokers name (street name)

cool? [Smile]

OMG people...
Do you have any idea what this company will be trading for in a years time if this is all true?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They won't do that. You can call your broker and have any shares in your account for all stocks not to be loaned out to be shorted, but brokers will not hold shares in your name, not anymore. If you want it in your name, they'll send you a cert.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Hold on I will post the full documents.. had to reboot. any one know how to post a full PDF format
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by djg7:
Vin, from what I understand is that etrade would only mail the actual certs to your physical addresss. You would be holding the actual certs in your hand.

I'm not so sure that's the best thing, is it? Has anyone else called Etrade yet?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Hey chart have you checked out all the contracts that surfer and I dug up.

no...

cut & paste?...

very busy morning for me, on away from home already ~

What's your take?

VERY-VERY nice work guys!!!!! [Big Grin]

5 STARS!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
someone google Ismael paez..
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
thank you chart. the only thing I don't see yet is the institutional buyers. Those euro banks I don't see any contracts with them yet.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
What Rufus said was this:

- Get the electronic Certs in your name.
- If your broker will not do that have them DTCC Transferred to one that will (Merrill Lynch was mentioned as one that will).
- As a last resort get paper certs

That is from my notes of the interview.

I have promised some of the Spinoffzz folk I would post my opinion here later.

All my shares are with choicetrade and I will be calling them first.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I just called Fidelity. They cannot put the shares into my name, cause mine are in a retirement account.

They said they COULD send the certs if they were in a regular account.

Instead, Fidelity is going to send me a statement saying I own the shares. Not sure if this is going to be sufficient or not, but it is the only choice I have.

Jo
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by djg7:
Vin, from what I understand is that etrade would only mail the actual certs to your physical addresss. You would be holding the actual certs in your hand.

Yeah I just called them and They said the only way for me to get the shares in my name are to get them sent physically to my addy which could take up to 3-4 weeks... grr. they are not ofering to electroically put my name on them.
I'm an Etrade customer.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
REAL ESTATE INDEX


Name Search Document Display

Searched Book: 2106
Page: 1 in BARTOW County
County good from 1/3/1992 through 9/27/2006
Query made: 10/3/2006 8:48:12 AM
County Instrument Type Date Filed Time Book Page
BARTOW CONTRACT 9/13/2006 2:16:00 PM 2106 1

Description not warranted
GLOBAL FUNDING AGREEMENT

Sec/GMD District Land Lot Subdivision Unit Block Lot Comment

Grantor
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS INC
PAEZ, ISMAEL

Grantee
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS INC
PAEZ, ISMAEL

This record was added to the statewide Deed database index on 9/16/2006 1:01:47 AM


Man now they ar enot letting me pull all the forms in PDF..
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
I just called Fidelity. They cannot put the shares into my name, cause mine are in a retirement account.

They said they COULD send the certs if they were in a regular account.

Instead, Fidelity is going to send me a statement saying I own the shares. Not sure if this is going to be sufficient or not, but it is the only choice I have.

Jo

I haven't been reading this ongoing novel here, so I don't know why you need them in your name. But again, can't have them in YOUR name at a brokerage house... if you want them in your name, get the cert.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
thank you chart. the only thing I don't see yet is the institutional buyers. Those euro banks I don't see any contracts with them yet.

Don't think that can happen till reset, or NAZ listing...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
I just called Fidelity. They cannot put the shares into my name, cause mine are in a retirement account.

They said they COULD send the certs if they were in a regular account.

Instead, Fidelity is going to send me a statement saying I own the shares. Not sure if this is going to be sufficient or not, but it is the only choice I have.

Jo

I haven't been reading this ongoing novel here, so I don't know why you need them in your name. But again, can't have them in YOUR name at a brokerage house... if you want them in your name, get the cert.
Repo, -morning!
I'm just going off what Rufus said, I'm sure he's looked into it, either way we'll figure out what to do today with phone calls and emails!! lol ~

Think this might be big ~
The 8k was loaded, and it sounds like the 10k will be a bomb! imo ~
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Guys this website has all the copys of the global funding agreement, the mergers ETC. It is worth the 5 bucks to check it out.
Has all signatures etc. too


Every time I go to print it wants to seize me up.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Tim W wrote: Im leaving mine in street name.

IMO THAT sounds like too much like a trap.

I tend to agree with you here. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you get the physical certs sent to you in your hand, don't you have to sign and physically mail the certs in to sell them. So if it takes a few days to sell, that could be the difference between a big gain and a loss due to a tanking stock.

I'm becoming more confident that the stock will actually GO UP after reset and not tank, but just in theory, doesn't having the certs slow down your process for reselling?

Jo
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I just called etrade again. The shares I own are in my name and I own them. The rep told me that etrade is only holding the shares. The shares listed in my account are in my name not etrade (street name) according to etrade so I don't think certs would be necessary because proof of ownership is in my account which is in my name. Tell me if I'm wrong. This is somewhat confusing.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
The interview last night seems pretty well covered here.

RPH gave Mike Alexander high marks. Simon interviewed him well.

At times Rufus seemed to think questions were coming from bashers and the old TC Paltalk room. I will note that is has been communicated that this was not the case on both fronts and it seems to have been well received.

I am quite pleased with the interview and I was glued to the PC listening and taking notes.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus did say "It was our RIGHT" to have our shares in our name...

So we'll see....

I'm going to press the issue with Scotty! [Smile]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
I just called Fidelity. They cannot put the shares into my name, cause mine are in a retirement account.

They said they COULD send the certs if they were in a regular account.

Instead, Fidelity is going to send me a statement saying I own the shares. Not sure if this is going to be sufficient or not, but it is the only choice I have.

Jo

Jo that is my plan too. From what rufas said he will work with us..
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
thanks portman how do i do that ?? laymans terms please so i understand neer did that before tia
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
Tim W wrote: Im leaving mine in street name.

IMO THAT sounds like too much like a trap.

I tend to agree with you here. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you get the physical certs sent to you in your hand, don't you have to sign and physically mail the certs in to sell them. So if it takes a few days to sell, that could be the difference between a big gain and a loss due to a tanking stock.

I'm becoming more confident that the stock will actually GO UP after reset and not tank, but just in theory, doesn't having the certs slow down your process for reselling?

Jo

Rufus didn't say to get certs, but to at least put them in your name.... -It's YOUR RIGHT Rufus said...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
I haven't been reading this ongoing novel here, so I don't know why you need them in your name. But again, can't have them in YOUR name at a brokerage house... if you want them in your name, get the cert.
In my case, I cannot get the certs due to them being in a retirement account. They said, if I get the certs they are no longer in a retirement account and I pay the resulting penalties.

Not worth it for the small amount of shares I hold. I'm gonna just play the lottery and enjoy the show with these shares. It has definitely been worth the price of admission!

Jo
 
Posted by portman on :
 
L2's have changed since last night...we are up on ask and bid...this shouod be a very interesting pre market dance.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
i just talked to scotty curtis is his name he said they are in street name that i can get certs nothing about in my name any other way and it is 50 dollars so now what talked to him about airshares etc he said he would get back to me today
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
I haven't been reading this ongoing novel here, so I don't know why you need them in your name. But again, can't have them in YOUR name at a brokerage house... if you want them in your name, get the cert.
In my case, I cannot get the certs due to them being in a retirement account. They said, if I get the certs they are no longer in a retirement account and I pay the resulting penalties.

Not worth it for the small amount of shares I hold. I'm gonna just play the lottery and enjoy the show with these shares. It has definitely been worth the price of admission!

Jo

Jo,

You should be able to place those shares in your name electronically. That is really what rufus said to do.

If you are playing this stock years long...move the account to a broker who will be this for you.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
the second half of the interview is still on. 100 minutes remaining
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by djg7:
I just called etrade again. The shares I own are in my name and I own them. The rep told me that etrade is only holding the shares. The shares listed in my account are in my name not etrade (street name) according to etrade so I don't think certs would be necessary because proof of ownership is in my account which is in my name. Tell me if I'm wrong. This is somewhat confusing.

No way. You talked to a moron CSR. Read the agreement the broker sends you... it should be online as well. Everything is held in street name, period. It's so they can loan the shares out
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
You should be able to place those shares in your name electronically. That is really what rufus said to do.

I asked Fidelity that. They said I couldn't get them in my name, electronically or otherwise.

Guess I could always move them to Rufus's favorite: Merrill Lynch!

Jo
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
On Etrades streaming quotes, does anyone else see the wrong price? It looks like it's showing Monday mornings numbers.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
AMTD's Level II not updating either.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I had shares with etrade, I called the TA to see if my name was on those shares...and I was told no, THE TA must have your name...


quote:
Originally posted by djg7:
I just called etrade again. The shares I own are in my name and I own them. The rep told me that etrade is only holding the shares. The shares listed in my account are in my name not etrade (street name) according to etrade so I don't think certs would be necessary because proof of ownership is in my account which is in my name. Tell me if I'm wrong. This is somewhat confusing.


 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good morning all. I don't really feel the need to change anything about my shares today. I bought them, Scottrade facilitated that sale. If I don't get them or get screwed in some way I will sue Scottrade for my shares x $15.00, End of story.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
my l2's are fine I'm showing a buy for 900 shares at 2.90 at 9:02. I have TDA
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
microcap feed shows 2.90-2.91
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
My etrade L2s seem to be working.

Bid 3 x 2.90 2 x 2.89

Ask 1 2.91 3 x 2.92 2 x 2.94

1,900 shares traded premarket last price 2.90.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
ok called scotty to find out how to get shares electonically in my name they said you call the ta and set up an account and then sign a form to have your shares put in there then if you want to sell them later you will have to call the ta again and have them sent to a brokerage firm to trade again sounds just like certs and there is a waiting game with that also so its really the same just to get your name to = shares you own.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I wouldn't hamstring myself like that Luv. My shares are staying as liquid as possible. Not That I don't think Rufus is telling the truth, its just that you need to protect yourself.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
This was james at scotty so there you have it first hand about scotty do what you want with your shares whatever makes you comfy....tia and glta
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
2.91-2.92 now
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Good grief! A lot must have happened last night - can anyone give me a real quick summary (not a good day to read that many pages). Please, pretty please!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
luv... sounds like maybe they misunderstood???

Rufus made it sound like it was simple, just a phone call or two...

I have Scotty too, I'll keep you posted...
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Gapping up again,would be nice for shorty to accepted his fate!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Let's not go into freak out mode in the certs.

I will be calling ML later.

I was on the phone with choicetrade just little while ago. I explained the situation. I also indicated that based on the wording of the merger agreement I wanted the electronic certs in my name and not street name. I was told they are currently by default in street name with Penson. They are calling Penson to get more information. As I get it I will post it here.

Once I call ML and verify what Rufus said I will also post that. I am going to do some in house research here and see if that turns anything up.

If longs had listened to Rufus months ago...they would not be in this position....me included. [Smile]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
hey gang, thanks for all the posts last night. I just got off the phone with choicetrade and they told me they would call the TA at 9:30 and take care of it for me, the TA is in central time zone and they don't get in till 8:30 and that's why he has to wait till 9:30. He said he will email me after it is taken care of, I will post whatever response I get back from them...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
thanks chart it will be done quick but you still have to do it back and forth just a lil less time than actual certs cause they do it electronically and you do it physically...please let me know whatever you fing out and will do the same tia
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
btw... gapping up [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
REAL ESTATE INDEX


Name Search Display: 5 10 25 50 75 100 results per page.


Name Selected: CONVERSION SOLUTIONS INC
Searched: All Parties in All Counties for All Instruments
User selected dates from 1/1/2004 through 10/2/2006
System good from 1/5/1993 through 8/10/2006 - Subject to All County Good From/Thru Dates
Query made: 10/3/2006 9:16:02 AM
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BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2105 PAGE: 996
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: MERGER AGREEMENT


BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2105 PAGE: 996
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: MERGER AGREEMENT


BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2106 PAGE: 1
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: GLOBAL FUNDING AGREEMENT


BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2106 PAGE: 1
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: GLOBAL FUNDING AGREEMENT


BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2106 PAGE: 24
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: GLOBAL FUNDING AGREEMENT


BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2106 PAGE: 24
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: GLOBAL FUNDING AGREEMENT


BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2106 PAGE: 70
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: JOINT VENTURE & SHAREHOLDERS AGREEMENT


BARTOW County CONTRACT FILED: 9/13/2006 BOOK: 2106 PAGE: 70
SEC/GMD: LD: LL: SUBDIVISION: UNIT: BLOCK: LOT: COMMENTS:
DESCRIPTION NOT WARRANTED: JOINT VENTURE & SHAREHOLDERS AGREEMENT


4 Instrument(s) Found
Page 1 of 1


To anyone interested. each one of these is in full PDF format.
Pay the $5 bucks to view them
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Buy above the ask!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
This is all crazy too bad we have bad guys out there stealing our money LOL sad sad what to do hope we all do whats right and make a ton [Wink]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
buys at 2.95 coming through.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Not that much,
~The 10K is late because they wanted to add some new deals to it and they are waiting on some Nobo info
~Rufus was still suggesting that we get our name registered with the TA incase there were any divies or what not
~looking more at option B thatn any other

quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Good grief! A lot must have happened last night - can anyone give me a real quick summary (not a good day to read that many pages). Please, pretty please!


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
2.96-2.97
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
buys at 2.97 closing in on 3.00 in pre market [Big Grin]
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Looks like we gap over $3
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
2.98-2.99
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
didn't he say its to late the 29th was it, the book is full,(so to speak) if your name is not already listed you own air?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I tell you they will try to keep this thing below 3 bucks... do you remeber the big block buys that went in yesterday at 3.01 and 3.00.

Big players is my guess. Only allowed to buy over 3 bucks
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Finding all those contracts really. Steeled my resolve with this stock. It really seems that this is to good to be true, but with proof that it is true.
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Not that much,
~The 10K is late because they wanted to add some new deals to it and they are waiting on some Nobo info
~Rufus was still suggesting that we get our name registered with the TA incase there were any divies or what not
~looking more at option B thatn any other

quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Good grief! A lot must have happened last night - can anyone give me a real quick summary (not a good day to read that many pages). Please, pretty please!


Thanks, 10 - how do we go about registering with the TA? Is everyone requesting certs here?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
dropping hard now 2.93-2.94 settled there
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
now they're pulling it down.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The saga continues people. Strap yourselves in.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
they can try to keep a lid on it...

But this baby in the long run is going places me thinks! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
More games, 10000 takes us up half a tick, 500 knocks us down 6!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
integrity stock transfer 1-877-317-7757

I beleive he said Don was the one to talk to
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
It didn't Drop boys, it gapped up a little less. [Smile]

Glass is half full!!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'll have to call in a little bit and see what I can do. I know TDA told me that they would not hold my shares in my name only. They only held them in street name.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
TDA will not put shares in my name. I can liquidate, pull certs, or transfer. Thank you very much.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Not that much,
~The 10K is late because they wanted to add some new deals to it and they are waiting on some Nobo info
~Rufus was still suggesting that we get our name registered with the TA incase there were any divies or what not
~looking more at option B thatn any other

quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Good grief! A lot must have happened last night - can anyone give me a real quick summary (not a good day to read that many pages). Please, pretty please!


10 I listened to the entire interview last night and did not get any of that out of it. Besides the reasoning for the 10K being late. Infact he clearly stated that option B was an option only, and it was up to the BOD. As far as putting your shares in our name he said after the 29th it really didn't matter "It was too late." but getting your shares in your name is the only way to get your name on the books.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
[/QUOTE]Rufus didn't say to get certs, but to at least put them in your name.... -It's YOUR RIGHT Rufus said... [/QB][/QUOTE]

If they are held in your name would there still be signing off required for them if you want to sell them?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
thats what i understood too taxback...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
This puppy is gonna run today... and I still don't have full access to my funds. ARRRGG Oh well I am happy where I am at, and will buy more ASAP.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I understand someone transferred their shares from ameritrade to choice trade. How did that go was it a fast and smooth transfer.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Where is resistance? Probably $3.00 right?
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Good morning $3! [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
remember folks...the last three days there has been a huge gap and trap...

as this moves to 3.13
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Here are a few things I wrote down after I listened to Rufus last night, I know you probably heard a lot of it but here goes:

- He hates IHUB, he said they put him in IHUB jail for calling (I beleive it was OURSTREET) a liar! - yet just before that he (Rufus) was called a fraud & there was no removal of the other person! - so he feels that IHUB is a bashing site!

- He said we DON"T need the 10K's don't worry about- we have the 8k & that is the same thing the only diffence from the 8k & 10k is the bond but he said the 8k is enough right now!

- He also said that Friday when the 8K didn't come out before the close that he KNEW PEOPLE WNATED TO GO THERE WITH GUNS!! Oh my God watch what you say!! - he was laughing about it though.
He's VERY FUNNY!!

Simon asked what Rufus & Ben thought of Mike Alexander..........
Rufus said,"I think Mike Alexander is a wonderful individual."
Ben said,"As a matter of fact we just made..."
Rufus interupted quickly & said, "Watch out" "Watch what you say." Then Ben & Rufus laughed.

Q: "Why no cash dividend to make shorts cover?"

2nd part of answer was: (I couldn't understand him sometimes) (the country twang)
A: "Wait 'till this trigger is pulled. I promise you've never seen anything like this.!"

I didn't understand this to much because I couldn't hear everything so well but:
RE: Tim - Ourstreet-
He thinks someone named Tim something on the boards or on a radio station is Ourstreet & that he is definately not in a country oversees he is stateside. He also says this Tim is tied to a Robbie Board * the New York Post!

He admitted to "Braodband" & said thats why they are where they are today.

He aslo said his life has been threated about 3 times. But basically he's here to change things & kick butt!!!

**************************************************

He is SUPER COOL.... I say RUFUS for President.

C'mon Rufus Kick some Asprin!!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
OK, now I am confused....other than calling the T/A....I have shares in Scotty - Chart, you have Scotty - what are you doing with them?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Just FYI I will be getting certs on about 80% of my shares sometime this week. At least that is the plan for me at this time. I found out that I can request certs on a specific number of shares, and the ones I plan on holding long term will be in my hands with all the goings on here. Rufas sold me last night. It was really good to hear this CEO that candid.
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
Is it safe to buy more if there aren't real shares out there? Does this just become my brokers problem for selling me something they don't have
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Listening to Rufus last night, made me %100 confident in this company. When I originally bought in I had NO idea what I had purchased. This will be the biggest stock of my LIFE. GLTA
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
do you have your charts going chart.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Thanks Jenna. Great recap.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
boy...i don't mean to brag or anything but did anyone see my above post, lol...that was like something Chart would call...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
OK, now I am confused....other than calling the T/A....I have shares in Scotty - Chart, you have Scotty - what are you doing with them?

-checking... so far they say $50 to do this...
-checking more.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wtf is the BS price drop! LOL!!!

Boy those MM's maybe are atarting to sweat!!
ha ha ~~

Their D-Day is coming!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Yes CRab great call!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Oh yeah...35 cents in five minutes...that's not manipulation is it?

this is just retarded...the damn minute chart looks like a halfpipe...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
do you have your charts going chart.

no, and I have to be away for a bet...
have things to do, SOB!!! [Smile]

rat where the hell are you!!!!!

brb ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
boy...i don't mean to brag or anything but did anyone see my above post, lol...that was like something Chart would call...

"You DA MAN!"

gotta get going! GLTA!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Jenna one of my favorite parts is when james (JJSEABROOK) from paltalk asked Simon to invite Rufas over to a Paltalk interview. Rufas said, "Really james the last time we did that it was like we down loaded a couple of viruses. And it was so crazy with all the things going on and being said. It was kinda like watching a monkey hump a football it was so crazy."

I literally rolled out of my chair. Still laughing at that comment.

TB
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
ruffas will call back in 15 minutes this is too wild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whose the son ??? comon peeps who is it???

I am way behind, but thought I would throw this out there...not sure if anyone posted this yet.

Oracle chief executive Larry Ellison--Gates’ longtime nemesis in the ego-driven technology industry--now holds the top spot. Based on the closing prices of Oracle and Microsoft stock, Ellison is worth $53 billion, compared to Gates’ $51.75 billion.

[Eek!]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
well my guess is mms will get peeps to sell one way or the other and u are out! Then they are laughing their butts off! Hold stong my opinion
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
this is utter bs they are taking us down hard and fast.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
how many wanna bet volume dries up around 12:00 at which point the PPS should be around 2.50 or so...maybe a touch lower...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
they want our shares bbbbbb bbbaaaaddd!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Just trying to scare people. Who cares at this point. THEY are going to reset the PPS $15. Let them do what they want right now.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey it almost seems like they are trying to fill the gap from yesterday.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
All I am thinking right now is that I have funds in pending state at Etrade. I know it is painful for others to watch this but inside I am saying "booo yaaaa". Comon ETurd release the hounds!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I can't watch this crap. It makes my blood boil. Has anyone called the TA yet?
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
Trying to buy more - I am above the ask and it won't fill.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
What I am guessing at this point is that the numbers listening to Simon just were not that great last night. However many listeners he has, 200 on paltalk, HSM and Allstocks running stenotype. I just wonder how many of the 15K some odd investors on that NOBO were listening. This drop could be part of that no confidence vote I and a few of us were speculating about yesterday afternoon when considering the 10-K deadline and the NT 10-K deadline.

I know I was thinking that the MM's would try and walk it down to atleast 2 bucks. I feel differently now with the interview behind us, but I wonder how many did not hear it or of it.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
view cuts us off all the time.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:

I know I was thinking that the MM's would try and walk it down to atleast 2 bucks. I feel differently now with the interview behind us, but I wonder how many did not hear it or of it. [/QB]

exactly Tax, many did not hear the interview and have writen off CSHD and sold. As far as your post stating you might go with 80% cert 20% electronic in your account, I feel that is the way to play it. JMO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tax, at the begining of the talk last night...I missed it what did Rufus say he was waiting on for the 10k?
As the talk went on I heard him say about the other deals that he wanted to add but he was waiting on something else...what was it?
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
Didn't he get a 15 extension for the 10-K? And if this is the case, why is everyone going so crazy???? Chill!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
What I am guessing at this point is that the numbers listening to Simon just were not that great last night. However many listeners he has, 200 on paltalk, HSM and Allstocks running stenotype. I just wonder how many of the 15K some odd investors on that NOBO were listening. This drop could be part of that no confidence vote I and a few of us were speculating about yesterday afternoon when considering the 10-K deadline and the NT 10-K deadline.

I know I was thinking that the MM's would try and walk it down to atleast 2 bucks. I feel differently now with the interview behind us, but I wonder how many did not hear it or of it.

The real question is how many would be investors heard the interview? How much new money will come in to counter any selling. Now keep in mind that as the day goes on the SubPenny interview will be playing as it is looped through out the day.

We've only been trading for a little more than 1/2 hour I'd say that the jury is still out at this point.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey Tax, Rufus mentioned something about the MM MURF being at $7. My computer screwed up when he was telling us that. What was said about MURF. Thanks
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
10 he said they were waiting on some document from the government. That would put an end to naked shorting of cshd.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
well... i was gonna say i was glad i added at 2.70 yesterday... [Big Grin] lol still not complaining. but... i havn't been able to read everything yet. you guys were saying something about buying after the 29th... something about not buying shares and buying air? so are you guys telling me that i just wasted my money and bought air? if i bought those shares, and they're in my account... wouldn't scotty have to honor them? you all may have went over this... i just got online now and will start reading but if anyone can fill me in about this it would be appreciated...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tax, at the begining of the talk last night...I missed it what did Rufus say he was waiting on for the 10k?
As the talk went on I heard him say about the other deals that he wanted to add but he was waiting on something else...what was it?

He is waiting on the list from ADP the NOBO list dated 9/29/2006. According to what he said he should be getting it Thursday.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
They were waiting on the 29th to happen, but now they are waiting for this weeks two big deals to be written into the "forward looking statements" "current events" Said they could have and had planned on the 13th of September until the SHO list info hit and then felt like they had to complete the cert exchange.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
10of13:

Hi Tax, at the begining of the talk last night...I missed it what did Rufus say he was waiting on for the 10k?
As the talk went on I heard him say about the other deals that he wanted to add but he was waiting on something else...what was it?

I think it was a document from the sec?
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
OK - after P Rowds post, my question is this: the people that bought BEFORE the 29th, do we have good shares?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I don't think that there is anything that Scotty or anyone else can do to take those shares away from you. If your account says that you own them, you own them. Its not your fault if Scotty is selling non-existant shares.

quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
well... i was gonna say i was glad i got in at 2.70... [Big Grin] lol still not complaining. but... i havn't been able to read everything yet. you guys were saying something about buying after the 29th... something about not buying shares and buying air? so are you guys telling me that i just wasted my money and bought air? if i bought those shares, and they're in my account... wouldn't scotty have to honor them? you all may have went over this... i just got online now and will start reading but if anyone can fill me in about this it would be appreciated...


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
He was commenting on the fact that there were new MM's that have not been on this stock before, he said to watch, He said that we needed to think about that...
I took it as a good thing...

quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey Tax, Rufus mentioned something about the MM MURF being at $7. My computer screwed up when he was telling us that. What was said about MURF. Thanks


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
ANybody who did not hear the interveiw last night can listen to it today. The whole show is looped throughout the trading day. Go to subpennyradio.com

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Wally are you going to post notes from the talk?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
ANybody who did not hear the interveiw last night can listen to it today. The whole show is looped throughout the trading day. Go to subpennyradio.com

GLTA
Wally

sorry wally, not with this NIPR net(military internet) lol...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Some notes and comments but there is so much I'm trying to answer some Q's in between. The show didn't end until Close to 3AM EST

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Jenna one of my favorite parts is when james (JJSEABROOK) from paltalk asked Simon to invite Rufas over to a Paltalk interview. Rufas said, "Really james the last time we did that it was like we down loaded a couple of viruses. And it was so crazy with all the things going on and being said. It was kinda like watching a monkey hump a football it was so crazy."

I literally rolled out of my chair. Still laughing at that comment.

It's even funnier when you add the country twang, I love it!

TB


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I am impressed again how this is holding up.. Wally do you think we see a low point later in the day??
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I don't think that there is anything that Scotty or anyone else can do to take those shares away from you. If your account says that you own them, you own them. Its not your fault if Scotty is selling non-existant shares.

thats what i was thinking but then i was skipping around the 15+ pages since yesterday after close and i read that about "after the 29th buying air" and i was a little confused. not sure how that would even work... one day you have x amount of shares and the next they just disappear? lol... anybody smell a lawsuit? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I've had my shares since june 14th. I would sure hope that I have my shares. I am wondering if I should call the TA though? Has anybody else made that call.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
well... i was gonna say i was glad i added at 2.70 yesterday... [Big Grin] lol still not complaining. but... i havn't been able to read everything yet. you guys were saying something about buying after the 29th... something about not buying shares and buying air? so are you guys telling me that i just wasted my money and bought air? if i bought those shares, and they're in my account... wouldn't scotty have to honor them? you all may have went over this... i just got online now and will start reading but if anyone can fill me in about this it would be appreciated...

I believe he said after the 29th you would be ok but you won't be in their BOOK...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I've had my shares since june 14th. I would sure hope that I have my shares. I am wondering if I should call the TA though? Has anybody else made that call.

Ryan they are in Nevada. Not sure what time they open...1-877-317-7757

try and talk to Don
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I am looking for LOD to add. Any chartists wanna give me their guess on LOD?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Any of you that have Scotty - I don't know about you but evrytime I make a trade, buy or sell, they send me a paper, looks like a statement, I believe it's a confirmation. Somebody told me that's proof right there. Any thoughts?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Any of you that have Scotty - I don't know about you but evrytime I make a trade, buy or sell, they send me a paper, looks like a statement, I believe it's a confirmation. Somebody told me that's proof right there. Any thoughts?

Jenna I have scotty too. What I have done is print hard copys of the purchases that I made.

Including transaction #'s etc. even print your home page full screen. I don't want them to disappear.. LOL
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Jenna - you say "believe he said after the 29th you would be ok but you won't be in their BOOK...

Can anyone explain that? Does that means shares we add - buy yesterday or today - lose some benefit??
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
not sure if this is the same guy, but I think 10 wanted some info on him. If this is him, he published some books on stocks
Michael A Alexander
http://my.net-link.net/~malexan/STOCK_CYCLES.htm
http://www.gold-eagle.com/research/alexanderndx.html
also
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Alexander_Michael_743659174.aspx
 
Posted by DMOST on :
 
IMO

Rufus has stated many times before, “I’m not worried about the current PP, the reset is all that matters”, the companies current strategies of releasing market or pre-market news adds credence to this statement.

First point in case, no PR new release explain confusion of 8k filing, second no PR release announcing interview on Paltalk, and third no PR, pre-market today to help hold up prices as I type.

It is easy for me to see that any PR new release at all the last few market days could have cause the PP to surge. Question, why not release timely PR new? Because it does not matter, only the reset.

No pain, no Gain.

“YOU PAID YOUR MONEY AND YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE”
[Cool] [Wink]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Jenna - you say "believe he said after the 29th you would be ok but you won't be in their BOOK...

Can anyone explain that? Does that means shares we add - buy yesterday or today - lose some benefit??

Honestly, I didn't really understand everything but I beleive if your not in the book, which I guess he's going to somehow let us check if our names are on there, if you're not in the book, you really need to get cert's to prove that you have real shares..........but.... he also said that if you bought AIR SHARES .... he will buy them from you for $15 / share (I believe) & then HE will go after the money from who ever sold the stock to you.........he said if he has to he'd BUY a law firm to take care of this!!!

He's so cool!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Not sure what the price will do. The MM's may just draw a line in the sand and not cover.

As far as the certs go, It's was my understanding that the only way an individuals name will be in the TA's book of shareholders is if the stock is in your name either electronically or in physical cert form. If you have airshares, the broker is still responsible for the market price. But it "could" take legal action in order to sort it out.

Rufus stated over and over that the company would help you but priority is to the shareholders that are recognized in the company book.

More Later

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
view is the biggest sob
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I've had my shares since june 14th. I would sure hope that I have my shares. I am wondering if I should call the TA though? Has anybody else made that call.

Ryan they are in Nevada. Not sure what time they open...1-877-317-7757

try and talk to Don

I tried to call, but the mailbox is already full.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Honestly, I don't even care what the PPS is because he said the reset is coming!!! So let's look at this as an opprtuntity to buy more shares for a really good price!!!
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DMOST:
IMO

Rufus has stated many times before, “I’m not worried about the current PP, the reset is all that matters”, the companies current strategies of releasing market or pre-market news adds credence to this statement.

First point in case, no PR new release explain confusion of 8k filing, second no PR release announcing interview on Paltalk, and third no PR, pre-market today to help hold up prices as I type.

It is easy for me to see that any PR new release at all the last few market days could have cause the PP to surge. Question, why not release timely PR new? Because it does not matter, only the reset.

No pain, no Gain.

“YOU PAID YOUR MONEY AND YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE”
[Cool] [Wink]

I believe that he (Rufus) is allowing the shorts to cover. By not putting PR's out there, the MM's can help facilitate this by keeping the price low. Why he is being so fair to them, God only knows, but he is a religious man. My question is...is this fair to us? If you think about what's in store for us and this company, the answer is probably "yes". Remember, he wants loyal shareholders.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Any of you that have Scotty - I don't know about you but evrytime I make a trade, buy or sell, they send me a paper, looks like a statement, I believe it's a confirmation. Somebody told me that's proof right there. Any thoughts?

It's proof you bought the shares but it doesn't put your name in the company books as a shareholder. The certs are held in street name. So for instantance let's say the street name is Scott. All the shares Scottrade truly owns will be under the name Scott in the company books. Those shares are split up among the many Scottrade customers.

So yes you have proof that you purchased shares but your name is not on the list of shareholders in the company books.

Hope that helps.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Mathis...thanks, but I don't think that it is the same guy...it would be the one that was the CEO of FHAL...sounds as if he just made some big deals but Rufus and been wouldn't let us know for what...that would be insider info...


quote:
Originally posted by mathis:
not sure if this is the same guy, but I think 10 wanted some info on him. If this is him, he published some books on stocks
Michael A Alexander
http://my.net-link.net/~malexan/STOCK_CYCLES.htm
http://www.gold-eagle.com/research/alexanderndx.html
also
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Alexander_Michael_743659174.aspx


 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Any of you that have Scotty - I don't know about you but evrytime I make a trade, buy or sell, they send me a paper, looks like a statement, I believe it's a confirmation. Somebody told me that's proof right there. Any thoughts?

It's proof you bought the shares but it doesn't put your name in the company books as a shareholder. The certs are held in street name. So for instantance let's say the street name is Scott. All the shares Scottrade truly owns will be under the name Scott in the company books. Those shares are split up among the many Scottrade customers.

So yes you have proof that you purchased shares but your name is not on the list of shareholders in the company books.

Hope that helps.

GLTA
Wally

OOOOHH!!!!! I better call my friend Scotty.
 
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
 
I hope we don't end up with a class action to get our money. These air shares are great concern to me. We are talking millions of dollars. If we can't get shares in our name electronically or get certs where do we stand? This is fraud on a huge level. This stock was trading in Berlin illegally also. Do you believe the shorts will be able to cover at $15.00? Maybe the TA can direct us in the proper direction. We are seeing firsthand just how crooked the market is.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
support was hit at the low of day...

larger support around 2.10-2.20 EOD

We get below that EOD we have issues....

Untill then it's all fricken noise and games ..IMO

Enjoy the ride .....It may get goofy...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OT: OK I just got off the phone with ETurd. (First time since this thing started that I have made a call to my broker. [Wink] I know I am feeling pretty special about that too.) I was checking on my funds that I began transfering to my account this past Saturday that still haven't showed in my account. Basically because the funds were moved with their "Quick Transfer" feature and the transfer was not that quick so it raised a bunch of "red flags" for me.

Appearantly, funds ACHed to your account that used to be immediate now due to "new" fraud protection rules put in place industry wide can hold up funds for upto 6 business days! Kind of defeats the purpose of "Quick Transfer" huh. Anyway I need to wire the funds. So I had him cnacel the transfer and as soon as they appear back at my bank I am going down there to wire. Just FYI for all those who enjoy this feature of ETradeand other brokers. I got no notification of the change and was really taken by surprise since most of my transfers from my bank to ETrade could be used imediately.

I will be wiring from now on. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
sherri, I have noticed that with them if you don't call the 877 number they answer when it is you dime...but I don't remember the area code...it was listed last night...in this thread...


quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I've had my shares since june 14th. I would sure hope that I have my shares. I am wondering if I should call the TA though? Has anybody else made that call.

Ryan they are in Nevada. Not sure what time they open...1-877-317-7757

try and talk to Don

I tried to call, but the mailbox is already full.

 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Rat said:
support was hit at the low of day...

larger support around 2.10-2.20 EOD

We get below that EOD we have issues....

Untill then it's all fricken noise and games ..IMO


Enjoy the ride .....It may get goofy...

Sure has been one goofy stock.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Reading through all this stuff and a bit at a loss. Sounds like my Etrade options are to secure the actual certs, or follow Doniboy's lead and don't do anything. Am I reading this right? I'm a little concerned on getting the certs because that would really delay any further transactions on this stock.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I just transferred yesterday and it was all good...but maybe it has to do with the amount...and yours is higher?

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OT: OK I just got off the phone with ETurd. (First time since this thing started that I have made a call to my broker. [Wink] I know I am feeling pretty special about that too.) I was checking on my funds that I began transfering to my account this past Saturday that still haven't showed in my account. Basically because the funds were moved with their "Quick Transfer" feature and the transfer was not that quick so it raised a bunch of "red flags" for me.

Appearantly, funds ACHed to your account that used to be immediate now due to "new" fraud protection rules put in place industry wide can hold up funds for upto 6 business days! Kind of defeats the purpose of "Quick Transfer" huh. Anyway I need to wire the funds. So I had him cnacel the transfer and as soon as they appear back at my bank I am going down there to wire. Just FYI for all those who enjoy this feature of ETradeand other brokers. I got no notification of the change and was really taken by surprise since most of my transfers from my bank to ETrade could be used imediately.

I will be wiring from now on. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by DMOST on :
 
St.Matthew
I believe that he (Rufus) is allowing the shorts to cover. By not putting PR's out there, the MM's can help facilitate this by keeping the price low. Why he is being so fair to them, God only knows, but he is a religious man. My question is...is this fair to us? If you think about what's in store for us and this company, the answer is probably "yes". Remember, he wants loyal shareholders.


I agree totally, just neglected to add that thought.

Thanks,


"YOU PAY YOUR MONEY AND YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE" [Wink] [Wink]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I just transferred yesterday and it was all good...but maybe it has to do with the amount...and yours is higher?

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OT: OK I just got off the phone with ETurd. (First time since this thing started that I have made a call to my broker. [Wink] I know I am feeling pretty special about that too.) I was checking on my funds that I began transfering to my account this past Saturday that still haven't showed in my account. Basically because the funds were moved with their "Quick Transfer" feature and the transfer was not that quick so it raised a bunch of "red flags" for me.

Appearantly, funds ACHed to your account that used to be immediate now due to "new" fraud protection rules put in place industry wide can hold up funds for upto 6 business days! Kind of defeats the purpose of "Quick Transfer" huh. Anyway I need to wire the funds. So I had him cnacel the transfer and as soon as they appear back at my bank I am going down there to wire. Just FYI for all those who enjoy this feature of ETradeand other brokers. I got no notification of the change and was really taken by surprise since most of my transfers from my bank to ETrade could be used imediately.

I will be wiring from now on. [Big Grin]


It is a large transfer but not much larger than past transfers back and forth. Hmmm, I talked with the guy for about 15 minutes on the topic, and he seemed to be reading some of it from a script. I don't know. Oh well just FYI and something to be aware of. Thanks for the update 10o13
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
He was commenting on the fact that there were new MM's that have not been on this stock before, he said to watch, He said that we needed to think about that...
I took it as a good thing...

quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey Tax, Rufus mentioned something about the MM MURF being at $7. My computer screwed up when he was telling us that. What was said about MURF. Thanks


MURF is an institutional that does not normally play at this level....that is what he said you should pay attention to.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DMOST:
St.Matthew
I believe that he (Rufus) is allowing the shorts to cover. By not putting PR's out there, the MM's can help facilitate this by keeping the price low. Why he is being so fair to them, God only knows, but he is a religious man. My question is...is this fair to us? If you think about what's in store for us and this company, the answer is probably "yes". Remember, he wants loyal shareholders.


I agree totally, just neglected to add that thought.

Thanks,


"YOU PAY YOUR MONEY AND YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE" [Wink] [Wink]

Listening to him last night this did not seem to be the case. Especially when he said and I quote, "They can kiss my butt. They haven't called Ben at this point, well they can kiss my butt!"
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Mathis...thanks, but I don't think that it is the same guy...it would be the one that was the CEO of FHAL...sounds as if he just made some big deals but Rufus and been wouldn't let us know for what...that would be insider info...


quote:
Originally posted by mathis:
not sure if this is the same guy, but I think 10 wanted some info on him. If this is him, he published some books on stocks
Michael A Alexander
http://my.net-link.net/~malexan/STOCK_CYCLES.htm
http://www.gold-eagle.com/research/alexanderndx.html
also
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Alexander_Michael_743659174.aspx


gotcha..im all confused..lets see if i can find some info on the CEO mike alexander
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
So what happens to scottrade when reset happens and thousands take legal action to get their shares? I understand that its their problem they have to cover...but is their a chance this could bankrupt these companies and we get screwed? I'm not trying to brind confusion just trying to be safe with my shares. Didn't he mention this as a possibility last night of scottrade and ameritrade or am I way off...sorry just really confussed right now
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
OK - Just got off the phone with Scotty - very nice people - anyway - they said it's no problem cert's are $50... & he also said THEY DO NOT SHORT - if they buy it on your behalf you own it no matter what!!! So no worries, & he also said that it sounds like Rufus wants everyone to get their certs, even if there covered by brokers like Scotty, because he must want to know exactly who his shareholders are!!

So, Scotty people, are you going to request your cert's even if they are guaranteeing your shares?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Mathis...
gotta go for a while...have fun guys...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
So what happens to scottrade when reset happens and thousands take legal action to get their shares? I understand that its their problem they have to cover...but is their a chance this could bankrupt these companies and we get screwed? I'm not trying to brind confusion just trying to be safe with my shares. Didn't he mention this as a possibility last night of scottrade and ameritrade or am I way off...sorry just really confussed right now

He basically said Ameritrade was in trouble but all he said about Scotty was why deal with the brokers who put cert's in street names, he said he LOVES Merryl Linch!!!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
For anyone interested:

Integrity Stock Transfer
2920 N Green Valley Pkwy
Henderson, NV 89014
(702) 317-7757

I think I may send a letter instead....
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Scotty is $50 per cert, or for all?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
Oh so we should be safe regardless. I hope so. still thinking about getting my certs. going long anyways. Thanks Jenna
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
Ok, perhaps I'm slow to catch on with this, but how does just calling the TA put you on the company's books? Do you just tell whoever answers the phone "hey, I'm so-and-so, and I've got XXX number of shares with YYY broker???" And has anyone verified which brokers are willing to electronically put the shareholders name on the shares? I'd call myself but I am out of the country right now.
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
In talking witht the local Scottrade branch manager last week and today again......so far Scott is still representing that they would not be able to put my name electronically on my shares, and Scott also represents that the shares in my cash account are valid and tradeable and owned only be me, and my shares are not subject to being loaned to any other entity or individual...
.
.
Should anyone find that Scott will put your name electronically on your shares, please, I think we all will appreciate you relating to the board how y'all got it accomplished....TY and GLTA
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I talked to my local agent and asked all of the above questions. I told them who the TA agent is and all of the issues, including the naked short position and mentioned AMTRD's inability to buy more shares. They will be calling back by noon.

The pros and cons of putting them in cert. form is liquidity.

Obviously if put in cert. form you lose tradability. Is it worth it...??

On the other hand when this thing resets, which I beleive it will you have proof of ownership.

My gut feeling is leaving them be.

What I do want is a letter from Scotty saying that they will honor the price whether it is $2 or $20. I doubt they will give me that though
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
oh boy...
People with Scotty...
Apparently Scottrade does not/will not put shares elecronically in your name (Repo you were right)...you would need to get certs,
cost, $50.00

Now take it easy but, Rufus did mention Scottrade by name and said that this could put them under along with TDA, still find that hard to believe, but Rufus is waiting for some government document that will end naked shorting on CSHD. --so who knows?!!

So, I am going to pay the $50 and get my certs, this way I'm registered with Rufus' company for divies and no matter what happens to Scottrade I have my,.... -- what I believe to be...
A once in a lifetime ride with CSHD.

Now I'm going LONG LONG with CSHD (year perhaps), because other holdings companies have share prices that are HUGE!!! $19,000.00 a share for that one we talked about here just days ago... (can't remember it, someone post it if you have it please).

So....
"IF" you have that kind of time frame or want to be SUPER SAFE then get your Certs!

In this WEIRD play I say better safe then sorry!

It's already being seen that we have new MM's hoovering around, that institutional investor link will name them as they come aboard (sorry, mobile today otherwise I'd post all those).

Bottom line: I'm getting my Certs from Scotty, not going to trust them and I don't care to join some half azz law suit that will take years to get through and in the end only get some if lucky.

Do what you will, this is "my" choice and my reasonings...

GLTA!
Chart ~
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lauralai:
Ok, perhaps I'm slow to catch on with this, but how does just calling the TA put you on the company's books? Do you just tell whoever answers the phone "hey, I'm so-and-so, and I've got XXX number of shares with YYY broker???" And has anyone verified which brokers are willing to electronically put the shareholders name on the shares? I'd call myself but I am out of the country right now.

no you have to go through your broker and get them in cert. form that way. I wish it was that easy....Tell your broker who their Transfer agent is ...Integrity stock transfer. etc..
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Berkshire Hathoway
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
OK - Just got off the phone with Scotty - very nice people - anyway - they said it's no problem cert's are $50... & he also said THEY DO NOT SHORT - if they buy it on your behalf you own it no matter what!!! So no worries, & he also said that it sounds like Rufus wants everyone to get their certs, even if there covered by brokers like Scotty, because he must want to know exactly who his shareholders are!!

So, Scotty people, are you going to request your cert's even if they are guaranteeing your shares?

Jenna, we know they don't "short" pennies, but it's the Naked Shorts that worry people.

Click that video below called "The BIG Picture" and the lights will come on, you'll understand EXACTLY what is happening I promise! This is the same link Rufus used in his PR!! [Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Scotty is $50 per cert, or for all?

Sherri I just called back $50 for each cert.
takes 2-3 weeks to get & in that time you can not sell. In order to sell you have to redeposit into Scotty acct & then it takes a day or 2 bfore it gets into your account.

You can get the cert for partial shares or all shares.


They also said once again it is impossible to have a bogus share from them!!

Good Luck!
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
I talked to my local agent and asked all of the above questions. I told them who the TA agent is and all of the issues, including the naked short position and mentioned AMTRD's inability to buy more shares. They will be calling back by noon.

The pros and cons of putting them in cert. form is liquidity.

Obviously if put in cert. form you lose tradability. Is it worth it...??

On the other hand when this thing resets, which I beleive it will you have proof of ownership.

My gut feeling is leaving them be.

What I do want is a letter from Scotty saying that they will honor the price whether it is $2 or $20. I doubt they will give me that though

Surfer.....perhaps this will help you in your discussions with Scotty....am reprinting my post from last Friday AM....
.
_posted 2006-09-29 12:42 _______________________________________________
"FWIW to y'all,

I made another call to the local Scottrade office as of this morning and asked to branch manager to again verify for me that the CSHD in my account were good tradeable shares and that I will not be impacted by any FTD conditions or any other restrictions. I requested the answer in writing.....Follows is the response I received. It makes me feel a little more comfortable......
____________________________________________

Subj: Scottrade Message
Date: 9/29/2006 10:11:14 AM US Eastern Standard Time
From: complianceMB*scottrade.com
To: xxxxxxxxxxx*cs.com
CC: xxxscottrade.com
Received from Internet: click here for more information

Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxxx,

Upon your request I am able to supply you with the following information:

Scottrade does not have any short positions in Conversion Solutions (CSHD). As of 9/29/2006, all of the Scottrade shares of CSHD at the Depository Trust Company (DTC) are believed to be in a good and deliverable form.

XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX
Branch Manager
13A Indianapolis

Scottrade Inc.
www.scottrade.com
www.scottrader.com

Scottrade has been named Highest in Investor Satisfaction With Online Trading Services Six Times in a Row by J.D. Power and Associates. For award information, visit www.jdpower.com <http://www.jdpower.com/>.


All email sent to and from this address will be received or otherwise recorded by the Scottrade corporate email system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. Email transmissions may not be secure. You may contact us by telephone if you have concerns about security."
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Berkshire Hathoway

THX!!

Ticker symbol ???.... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
OK - Just got off the phone with Scotty - very nice people - anyway - they said it's no problem cert's are $50... & he also said THEY DO NOT SHORT - if they buy it on your behalf you own it no matter what!!! So no worries, & he also said that it sounds like Rufus wants everyone to get their certs, even if there covered by brokers like Scotty, because he must want to know exactly who his shareholders are!!

So, Scotty people, are you going to request your cert's even if they are guaranteeing your shares?

I was told that my shares are indeed...my shares and that they can't short mine because I don't have a margin account. Also, I would figure that if shares are purchased weeks / months ago (even if they are "air shares") they would have been replaced by now...guys, correct me if I'm wrong here.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
ok folks i just got mine for certs better to be in than out i believe the ceo over anyone else long and strong i am wih chart on my reasons! glta
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
OK - Just got off the phone with Scotty - very nice people - anyway - they said it's no problem cert's are $50... & he also said THEY DO NOT SHORT - if they buy it on your behalf you own it no matter what!!! So no worries, & he also said that it sounds like Rufus wants everyone to get their certs, even if there covered by brokers like Scotty, because he must want to know exactly who his shareholders are!!

So, Scotty people, are you going to request your cert's even if they are guaranteeing your shares?

I was told that my shares are indeed...my shares and that they can't short mine because I don't have a margin account. Also, I would figure that if shares are purchased weeks / months ago (even if they are "air shares") they would have been replaced by now...guys, correct me if I'm wrong here.
DEAD WRONG...

Can't be repleced... There are none!
Click that video below "The BIG PICTURE"
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Here is a question: What would happen if you got your certs and then put them back in Scottrade, AMTD, E-Trade, etc.? Would they not have to be in your name at that point?
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
not so sure the short position is brokers problem anyway, it could be the mms problem.
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Berkshire Hathoway

Berkshire Hathaway is much more than 19K a share - more like 80K a share. If we do convert to certs, how long would you expect it to take to be tradeable again? I'm thinking long too, but you never know what life will throw at you...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
I honestly believe mo only that you wont be putting them back into a broker firm but directly into cshd i think ruffas is having it set up that way thats direct trading with this company thats what i took and thats why i believe he wants you to get certs etc... thoughts??? tia
 
Posted by HossTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Berkshire Hathoway

THX!!

Ticker symbol ???.... [Big Grin]

BRK-A and it is about $96K per share, but that is Warren Buffets company.
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
$50 PER CERT??? Good grief, that is three times the reset price. You still doing it Chart?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BRK-A
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BRK-B

there ya go...for those wondering, lol...

and Sherri...each cert can be for any number of shares...each share doesn't need a cert...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Don't forget, it's not an all or nothing thing on the certs. I'm thinking that I may sell 25% at $15 and get certs for the balance. I'm confident that this stock will ultimately be valued well above $15, so I'm so worried about having to make the "quick trade". JMHO
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HossTrader:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Berkshire Hathoway

THX!!

Ticker symbol ???.... [Big Grin]

BRK-A and it is about $96K per share, but that is Warren Buffets company.
Don't suppose he would be interested in getting involved in a Jr. Holding Company that is about to knock everyones socks off...would he? Does he have a nephew?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
I talked to my local agent and asked all of the above questions. I told them who the TA agent is and all of the issues, including the naked short position and mentioned AMTRD's inability to buy more shares. They will be calling back by noon.

The pros and cons of putting them in cert. form is liquidity.

Obviously if put in cert. form you lose tradability. Is it worth it...??

On the other hand when this thing resets, which I beleive it will you have proof of ownership.

My gut feeling is leaving them be.

What I do want is a letter from Scotty saying that they will honor the price whether it is $2 or $20. I doubt they will give me that though

Surfer.....perhaps this will help you in your discussions with Scotty....am reprinting my post from last Friday AM....
.
_posted 2006-09-29 12:42 _______________________________________________
"FWIW to y'all,

I made another call to the local Scottrade office as of this morning and asked to branch manager to again verify for me that the CSHD in my account were good tradeable shares and that I will not be impacted by any FTD conditions or any other restrictions. I requested the answer in writing.....Follows is the response I received. It makes me feel a little more comfortable......
____________________________________________

Subj: Scottrade Message
Date: 9/29/2006 10:11:14 AM US Eastern Standard Time
From: complianceMB*scottrade.com
To: xxxxxxxxxxx*cs.com
CC: xxxscottrade.com
Received from Internet: click here for more information

Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxxx,

Upon your request I am able to supply you with the following information:

Scottrade does not have any short positions in Conversion Solutions (CSHD). As of 9/29/2006, all of the Scottrade shares of CSHD at the Depository Trust Company (DTC) are believed to be in a good and deliverable form.

XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX
Branch Manager
13A Indianapolis

Scottrade Inc.
www.scottrade.com
www.scottrader.com

Scottrade has been named Highest in Investor Satisfaction With Online Trading Services Six Times in a Row by J.D. Power and Associates. For award information, visit www.jdpower.com <http://www.jdpower.com/>.


All email sent to and from this address will be received or otherwise recorded by the Scottrade corporate email system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. Email transmissions may not be secure. You may contact us by telephone if you have concerns about security."

It's all about the wording. They believe not guarantee.

I'm not saying that everyone should get certs. I have not requested them because I'm still mulling the whole thing over. It's an individual decision.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I understand someone transferred their shares from ameritrade to choice trade. How did that go was it a fast and smooth transfer.

I did it. TDA started it and screwed up supposedly. I called after 4 days and they made it happen overnight. I also told them I know it only take 24 hours.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
OMG!

BRK/A Look that up on Stock charts dot com!
[Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
OK - Just got off the phone with Scotty - very nice people - anyway - they said it's no problem cert's are $50... & he also said THEY DO NOT SHORT - if they buy it on your behalf you own it no matter what!!! So no worries, & he also said that it sounds like Rufus wants everyone to get their certs, even if there covered by brokers like Scotty, because he must want to know exactly who his shareholders are!!


So, Scotty people, are you going to request your cert's even if they are guaranteeing your shares?

I was told that my shares are indeed...my shares and that they can't short mine because I don't have a margin account. Also, I would figure that if shares are purchased weeks / months ago (even if they are "air shares") they would have been replaced by now...guys, correct me if I'm wrong here.
DEAD WRONG...

Can't be repleced... There are none!
Click that video below "The BIG PICTURE"

Thanks Chart maybe I will get my certs hold them for a while then I can redeposit them at Scotty even if I'm not sure when I want to sell.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by a surfer:
[qb] Scottrade does not have any short positions in Conversion Solutions (CSHD). As of 9/29/2006, all of the Scottrade shares of CSHD at the Depository Trust Company (DTC) are believed to be in a good and deliverable form.

XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX
Branch Manager
13A Indianapolis

Scottrade Inc.
www.scottrade.com
www.scottrader.com

Scottrade has been named Highest in Investor Satisfaction With Online Trading Services Six Times in a Row by J.D. Power and Associates. For award information, visit www.jdpower.com <http://www.jdpower.com/>.


All email sent to and from this address will be received or otherwise recorded by the Scottrade corporate email system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. Email transmissions may not be secure. You may contact us by telephone if you have concerns about security."

It's all about the wording. They believe not guarantee.

I'm not saying that everyone should get certs. I have not requested them because I'm still mulling the whole thing over. It's an individual decision.

GLTA
Wally

That doesn't tell you squat. Did you respond to them on the "believed" thing?
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
So how long to sell if you have certs? Anyone know?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
So how long to sell if you have certs? Anyone know?

You have to take the cert down to your local Scottrade oficce & deposit it. It's like depositing a check it usually shows up the next day, or if you don't want to go through Scotty then you have to send then in, could be weeks.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Ouch, just checked the quotes...gettin' ugly today. Oh well, does it REALLY matter???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Just a warning guys. I would NEVER get certs for a penny stock. I know that we are betting on Rufus here and I know that we are gung ho, but trading certs takes a heck of a lot longer than trading online.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
OK - Just got off the phone with Scotty - very nice people - anyway - they said it's no problem cert's are $50... & he also said THEY DO NOT SHORT - if they buy it on your behalf you own it no matter what!!! So no worries, & he also said that it sounds like Rufus wants everyone to get their certs, even if there covered by brokers like Scotty, because he must want to know exactly who his shareholders are!!

So, Scotty people, are you going to request your cert's even if they are guaranteeing your shares?

No one said they shorted...They said they are short shares...IOW, they have less real certs in hand then they have in customer accounts. They did not force the MM's to cover the air shares they sold to them on your behalf.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Ouch, just checked the quotes...gettin' ugly today. Oh well, does it REALLY matter???

Nope, the resets a comin'!!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
So if you're holding shares in a Roth IRA, are you stuck? From what I'm hearing, you can't call for certs from a IRA without getting out of the retirement account. I guess I'll look into all of this during lunch.
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
What the F - I'm sitting 4 cents above the Ask and still won't fill - WTF!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
just a question. If you don't get your certs and your shares are good. If there were any dividends or anything of the sort wouldn't you get them through your broker any way? Just a question
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
OK - Just got off the phone with Scotty - very nice people - anyway - they said it's no problem cert's are $50... & he also said THEY DO NOT SHORT - if they buy it on your behalf you own it no matter what!!! So no worries, & he also said that it sounds like Rufus wants everyone to get their certs, even if there covered by brokers like Scotty, because he must want to know exactly who his shareholders are!!


So, Scotty people, are you going to request your cert's even if they are guaranteeing your shares?

I was told that my shares are indeed...my shares and that they can't short mine because I don't have a margin account. Also, I would figure that if shares are purchased weeks / months ago (even if they are "air shares") they would have been replaced by now...guys, correct me if I'm wrong here.
DEAD WRONG...

Can't be repleced... There are none!
Click that video below "The BIG PICTURE"

Thanks Chart maybe I will get my certs hold them for a while then I can redeposit them at Scotty even if I'm not sure when I want to sell.
Deposit them perhaps with someone else... or wait till way after reset just to make sure they don't go bankrupt, do a name change and screw everyone over...

"HEY,... MONEY TALKS, AND OJ WALKS!"

-enough said! [Smile]
good luck to you!
I honestly believe this thing will take off, let the short term holders leave and then let it rise, low float, great company and RUFUS!

screw it guys, if that 10k is sweet, I'm way long!

You'll NEVER EVER see something like this again, no way ~ IMHO!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Vin: I was answering a previous post and pointing out that the believe portion which gives them an out.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
thanks portman how do i do that ?? laymans terms please so i understand neer did that before tia

Do what?
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Well, let's recap then...

A) I sell and take the profits I made.

B) I hold online and risk having air, but could still trade it.

C) I get certs at a cost, and the price may not stay high enough long enough for me to cash in and sell when I want to do it.

Such choices....none are really great ones whether you are long or short.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
True Sherri

You said it Chart!!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Well, let's recap then...

A) I sell and take the profits I made.

B) I hold online and risk having air, but could still trade it.

C) I get certs at a cost, and the price may not stay high enough long enough for me to cash in and sell when I want to do it.

Such choices....none are really great ones whether you are long or short.

Option D) A combination of the above.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
So if you're holding shares in a Roth IRA, are you stuck? From what I'm hearing, you can't call for certs from a IRA without getting out of the retirement account. I guess I'll look into all of this during lunch.

Yes please do!

I'm holding some in a IRA also at OptionsXpress.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
this is unreal watching this.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
The price going down should only tell you that this is real, why?...

Cause MM's CAN short!!
If it wasn't real they would let it run to $15 then short the sh*t out of it and become Billioniares!

THINK ABOUT IT.... Common sense!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
call me crazy but I sold this morning X 2.91 looking to flip in a few days when the pps is lower. If we have to wait 15 more day then there is plenty of time to buyback.

Chart says all and thats the way it'll be until the "reset" happens.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p24761746261
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
call me crazy but I sold this morning X 2.91 looking to flip in a few days when the pps is lower. If we have to wait 15 more day then there is plenty of time to buyback.

Chart says all and thats the way it'll be until the "reset" happens.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p24761746261

Dangerous thing to do when people can't get filled way above the ask....but it is your money...GLTY
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Thanks, as I have done quite well for myself trading.
Just remember it'll get easier to buy over the next 14 days. Watch the charts and see. Its gotta have breathing room and this thing is still high on RSI.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p24761746261
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
at least a little l2 support at 2.45
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Where is support at? Looking to buy in soon...but want it to drop more
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey chart do you think this is filling the gap from the other day.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
check this out guys!

http://www.stocksandmutualfunds.com/AISSJV.pdf
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
heck yes, altho I think there is MUCH more going on here.

Wonder what government docum Rufus is waiting for? (!!)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
New2 that's HUGE!!!
AISS agreement in writing!

50 million loan from CSHD (pg 39)
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Approved 8-17-2005? Thats long ago...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Long ago yes....
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
meanwhile trading at 2.35
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
Approved 8-17-2005? Thats long ago...

"Filed in office (9-13-06!)
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
THat document was posted on h s m....I wonder if it is still valid...it has Dr. Mensah's signature on it.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
THat document was posted on h s m....I wonder if it is still valid...it has Dr. Mensah's signature on it.

That was orig deal I think...

It's still good, but the Doc is out apperently! lol ~

Courthouse filed! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
For your listening pleasure while we watch the ticker.
How Low will It Go?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Made my trip to the bank... wire on it's way... hmm hmmmmm hmmm... Frown on the out side, great big huge smile on the inside. Chart, New2, quit looking for more positive stuff you made the price rebound .04 on that pdf post. [Big Grin] Just kidding keep digging it just keeps getting better.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
OK ... certs ...

You get certs ...
We all get certs ...

Shorts are made to cover and replace borrowed shares because certs are being delivered and there are not enough shares to borrow against to continue shorting. They're basis has been removed.

Certs may take 2, 3, or 4 weeks to get which means we aren't trading ... we aren't selling. The shorts trying to cover but there are not enough shares to buy ... the demand for real shares go up, and up along with the pps.

Now we're in this amazing run and who wants to sell now ... at least not much because you won't have to sell much to move on with your life and your trading all the while CSHD moves onwards and upwards.

Question is does one want to take a chance on missing some flipping, etc. or missing out perhaps via some legal entanglements?

Yes, I'm thinking hard about getting my certs.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
bmic was just getting his price of 2.45 then dropped it down to 2.41
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I'm watching the action and just wondering if Rufus didn't unwittingly scare some people into selling. With all the talk of air shares and possible litigation some people may be taking profits just to be safe.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/bizfinance/finance/features/10426/index.htm l
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
Approved 8-17-2005? Thats long ago...

"Filed in office (9-13-06!)
Well heck. In that case I'll go file my DD214 discharge papers get the same date and stamp from Bartow county, Ga.

I'm just curious as to how significant this really is.

14 days left, you can't even keep a good stock up that long with DD thats a positive.

Like I said, I'm here to play the game and its going down between here and the next filing date in 14 days. Charts tell all.
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
The Schwab Report...

So after reading everything from the interview here is what Schwab told me when I called them:

I have a cash account, my shares are my shares and CANNOT be shorted against. They are held in the 'street name/my name' not just the 'street name' as some of the discount brokers do so it's easy for the TA to figure out who owns the shares.

I asked them what happens if the price resets. They said then you get that price. I asked about Option B, took a bit of explaining but they said the shares are in the 'street name/my name' so again they can figure out who owns them pretty easily.

They did say that MARGIN accounts may be shorted. I really think if you have your shares in a cash account you are fine. Margin accounts is where there could be some trouble. I didn't request paper certs because I want to be able to trade this quickly.

Oh looks like I was right, we're heading under $2 today. Time to purchase another set of flippers !!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Has anyone thought to ask how they intend to do a "reset", to my knowledge only options prices and convertible parity price can be reset. I don't think there is a reg that allows the reset of a stockprice, if someone finds it please post! not bashing bc I hold some of this still, but I just don't see this being able to happen
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
http://marketwatch.com/News/Story/4cgfqFvkLWM87SpSxp0TJ4R?siteid=mktw&dist=TNMos tMailed
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Bought more at $2.48

I'm a 20 year college student with financial backing from my parents. I started with $5k 4 months ago and built up my portfolio to aroun $13k before CSHD. What I am doing now at my age is risk vs reward. I don't need the money desperately at this point. So what I did was invested almost all of my money at this point into CSHD. I have 67,700 shares of sljb....and as long as it doesnt dip under .075...I will have $5,000 in liquidation. Therefore, I have decided to put it all the leftovers into CSHD and now have 5084 shares. If CSHD tanks and I get $0 from it, I still will have my original principal as long as sljb does not go under .075

It's an all or nothing type of thing at this age, since i still have financial backing from the parents. If this goes to $25 and I can sell all my shares...we're talking $127,100

Worth the risk!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Has anyone thought to ask how they intend to do a "reset", to my knowledge only options prices and convertible parity price can be reset. I don't think there is a reg that allows the reset of a stockprice, if someone finds it please post! not bashing bc I hold some of this still, but I just don't see this being able to happen

there is no rule AGAINST it... [Roll Eyes]

all it takes is an MM to agree and news halt....
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
Approved 8-17-2005? Thats long ago...

"Filed in office (9-13-06!)
Well heck. In that case I'll go file my DD214 discharge papers get the same date and stamp from Bartow county, Ga.

I'm just curious as to how significant this really is.

14 days left, you can't even keep a good stock up that long with DD thats a positive.

Like I said, I'm here to play the game and its going down between here and the next filing date in 14 days. Charts tell all.

Money, I think you are mistaken when you say 14 days. They have 14 days total, but they said it may be as soon as Friday. I don't care at the current PPS because it will be RESET to $15. GLTY
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Trading against Pirate
Other hedge funds have begun to trade against Pirate as the firm's troubles increase, two hedge fund investors said on condition of anonymity.


http://marketwatch.com/News/Story/4cgfqFvkLWM87SpSxp0TJ4R?siteid=mktw&dist=TNMos tMailed

this is what we've been watching IMO....

the names my not be the same....

but the game is...
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Vin: Was away from computer for abit....Earlier this morning I had sent a follow-up request asking for a specific attestation about my shares....and am awaiting a reply.....will advise about what I receive back.

quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by a surfer:
[qb] Scottrade does not have any short positions in Conversion Solutions (CSHD). As of 9/29/2006, all of the Scottrade shares of CSHD at the Depository Trust Company (DTC) are believed to be in a good and deliverable form.

XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX
Branch Manager
13A Indianapolis

Scottrade Inc.
www.scottrade.com
www.scottrader.com

Scottrade has been named Highest in Investor Satisfaction With Online Trading Services Six Times in a Row by J.D. Power and Associates. For award information, visit www.jdpower.com <http://www.jdpower.com/>.


All email sent to and from this address will be received or otherwise recorded by the Scottrade corporate email system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. Email transmissions may not be secure. You may contact us by telephone if you have concerns about security."

It's all about the wording. They believe not guarantee.

I'm not saying that everyone should get certs. I have not requested them because I'm still mulling the whole thing over. It's an individual decision.

GLTA
Wally

That doesn't tell you squat. Did you respond to them on the "believed" thing?

 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
http://marketwatch.com/News/Story/4cgfqFvkLWM87SpSxp0TJ4R?siteid=mktw&dist=TNMos tMailed

I'm glad! LOL ~
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey Glass, did you listen to the Subpenny interview? What did you think? THanks
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
cassity, we all hope "reset" but what if it doesn't and it does take the 14 days?

I may be mistaken just as you are with thinking earlier. We'll see. I'm just calling the charts and hoping for the best.

I would love to pick up a few extra hundred shares for free.

RSI may bouce right off of 60 or fall right through to 50. Thinking it will hold that though.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Trading against Pirate
Other hedge funds have begun to trade against Pirate as the firm's troubles increase, two hedge fund investors said on condition of anonymity.


http://marketwatch.com/News/Story/4cgfqFvkLWM87SpSxp0TJ4R?siteid=mktw&dist=TNMos tMailed

this is what we've been watching IMO....

the names my not be the same....

but the game is...

I am going to agree here.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Has anyone thought to ask how they intend to do a "reset", to my knowledge only options prices and convertible parity price can be reset. I don't think there is a reg that allows the reset of a stockprice, if someone finds it please post! not bashing bc I hold some of this still, but I just don't see this being able to happen

there is no rule AGAINST it... [Roll Eyes]

all it takes is an MM to agree and news halt....

Totally untrue, the SEC regs are not prurely authorization statutes, they are one of the few sets of laws in the US that is both right granting and prohibitive. therefore, there should be a code that grants the right to reset the price. If you are going to roll your eyes at me atleast say something intelligent that has a source backing the thought up.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
MURF is at 5 bucks now too.

What other MM are we supposed to be watching?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Trading against Pirate
Other hedge funds have begun to trade against Pirate as the firm's troubles increase, two hedge fund investors said on condition of anonymity.


http://marketwatch.com/News/Story/4cgfqFvkLWM87SpSxp0TJ4R?siteid=mktw&dist=TNMos tMailed


Thanks glass... MONEYx3 I would say thurs. p.m. to fri. is your last entry point. Thats going from what I heard last night.
this is what we've been watching IMO....

the names my not be the same....

but the game is...


 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Hey - this site has been so nice the past few days no one's been nasty to eachother please keep the peace!! Love & kisses...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
368 rule?
and it seems that if FHAL was bankrupt, they can halt the trading and reset the price with the new assets...
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Has anyone thought to ask how they intend to do a "reset", to my knowledge only options prices and convertible parity price can be reset. I don't think there is a reg that allows the reset of a stockprice, if someone finds it please post! not bashing bc I hold some of this still, but I just don't see this being able to happen

there is no rule AGAINST it... [Roll Eyes]

all it takes is an MM to agree and news halt....

Totally untrue, the SEC regs are not prurely authorization statutes, they are one of the few sets of laws in the US that is both right granting and prohibitive. therefore, there should be a code that grants the right to reset the price. If you are going to roll your eyes at me atleast say something intelligent that has a source backing the thought up.

 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
woops
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
368 rule?
and it seems that if FHAL was bankrupt, they can halt the trading and reset the price with the new assets...
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Has anyone thought to ask how they intend to do a "reset", to my knowledge only options prices and convertible parity price can be reset. I don't think there is a reg that allows the reset of a stockprice, if someone finds it please post! not bashing bc I hold some of this still, but I just don't see this being able to happen

there is no rule AGAINST it... [Roll Eyes]

all it takes is an MM to agree and news halt....

Totally untrue, the SEC regs are not prurely authorization statutes, they are one of the few sets of laws in the US that is both right granting and prohibitive. therefore, there should be a code that grants the right to reset the price. If you are going to roll your eyes at me atleast say something intelligent that has a source backing the thought up.

That's the rule and there are plenty of examples both here and HSM. I am not going to dig them up...if someone questions it they can dig.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
If you are going to roll your eyes at me atleast say something intelligent that has a source backing the thought up.

buy tex and i discussed this months ago now..
google up OFFICIAL NASDAQ PRICE...
nasdaq clearly states that there is no such thing as an official price...
the MM's decide the official price..

this is not complicated..

the market decides the price..
if it won't trade at a "reset price" it won't trade there.. somebody'll short it or somebody'll buy...

the markets are not nearly as regulated as people want to make them out to be...

this is why Social Security cannot be put in Wall Street, and Wall St doesn't WANT the bureaucrats involved in their game...

up until this "play" many peopl told me i was WRONG when i told them you can short penny stocks..

now? we KNOW they can and do...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
368 is the tax free reorg section in the IRS code, allows for the reverse merger to be tax free. I'm looking to see if there is a reference section in the 33 or 34 act that refers to 368
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
This was the response I recieved from choicetrade. So I requested 10K shares in cert form. I have to admit it makes me a little nervous, but I still have 3500 shares of CSHD in my account just in case...

----------------------------------------------


Dear Mr. xxx,

Please be advised that you may request a stock certificate for your
position in CSHD to be issued in your name. Additionally, you may request
for your shares to be forwarded to another firm via DTC or through the
ACAT system. At this time, we cannot support simply having your shares
electronically transferred into your name. Thank you.


Regards,
ChoiceTrade Client Services
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
anybody who watches BloombergTV or MSNBC has seen dozens of stocks halted and reset on news...

the market makers decide where to reset...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
anybody who watches BloombergTV or MSNBC has seen dozens of stocks halted and reset on news...

the market makers decide where to reset...

Glass what is your take on getting certs.

Does getting half shares certed make sense?? TIA
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
anybody who watches BloombergTV or MSNBC has seen dozens of stocks halted and reset on news...

the market makers decide where to reset...

Hey Glass - Any idea how long the halt usually is. Hours or Days
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i am not getting certs..

i have always played this as a short squeeze..

i continue to see this play as a short squeeze..

getting certs is fine if you believe you want to hold this for 30 days or more no matter what


IMO? rather than getting certs? it's better to continue writing letters to your representatives on Capital Hill...

this is an election season...

as far as i am concerned right now? this play is about hedge funds at war...


even the MM's have their own hedges....
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
http://marketwatch.com/News/Story/4cgfqFvkLWM87SpSxp0TJ4R?siteid=mktw&dist=TNMos tMailed

ol' Zach got da boot...
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Thanks Glass for that tidbit. I'll be watching closely while studying for my cardiac test that is next week. whew, too much studying....

I look forward to the reset but when I can add free shares I will sure try!
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
knight has been in trouble before, but are also watched closely too ??
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2004-173.htm
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
368 rule?
and it seems that if FHAL was bankrupt, they can halt the trading and reset the price with the new assets...
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Has anyone thought to ask how they intend to do a "reset", to my knowledge only options prices and convertible parity price can be reset. I don't think there is a reg that allows the reset of a stockprice, if someone finds it please post! not bashing bc I hold some of this still, but I just don't see this being able to happen

there is no rule AGAINST it... [Roll Eyes]

all it takes is an MM to agree and news halt....

Totally untrue, the SEC regs are not prurely authorization statutes, they are one of the few sets of laws in the US that is both right granting and prohibitive. therefore, there should be a code that grants the right to reset the price. If you are going to roll your eyes at me atleast say something intelligent that has a source backing the thought up.

Correct 10...it's almost like an IPO.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
JHenry- did you ever get filled?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
You know whats funny? Check out Ihub, a couple of the people who were screaming scam earlier are now saying "Hey, this stock is resiliant" and "I can't believe that its holding up, must be a strong base"...LOL....
Talk about obvious...they want it to go back up after days of trying to bring it down. Oh the drama.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
You know whats funny? Check out Ihub, a couple of the people who were screaming scam earlier are now saying "Hey, this stock is resiliant" and "I can't believe that its holding up, must be a strong base"...LOL....
Talk about obvious...they want it to go back up after days of trying to bring it down. Oh the drama.

as if we didn't notice the support at 1$ LOL...

i can't wait to find out who the players behind th escenes really are...

somebody will lose their job over this one...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JHenry:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
anybody who watches BloombergTV or MSNBC has seen dozens of stocks halted and reset on news...

the market makers decide where to reset...

Hey Glass - Any idea how long the halt usually is. Hours or Days
Good Question....anybody know?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
did anyone take that without your name you will only get the 15 per share from rufas and thats it if you got proof they will do that but if your name is already verified you will get the rest as time moves forward with your certs? Anything with the login of the company and the jvs divys etc etc will require you to have it in your name even if it is longer but if you are in it for good then you will be happy? correct me if i am wrong, please my opinion only
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwLd9B7AEGI

Any one want a laugh.. This is my buddy during the making of our movie on our last surf trip.
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
JHenry- did you ever get filled?

Yea - I filled 1400 * 2.62
I'm going for more - have an order ready to go for 1500 & watching - trying to go for under 2.40.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
You know whats funny? Check out Ihub, a couple of the people who were screaming scam earlier are now saying "Hey, this stock is resiliant" and "I can't believe that its holding up, must be a strong base"...LOL....
Talk about obvious...they want it to go back up after days of trying to bring it down. Oh the drama.

-flippers getting a low price.. yawn.
(jerk-offs!) he he ~ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
how is nite still on the ask at 2.45 with all that volume that went through and just a 500 lot showing
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
That is why I got half in certs I dont think the ceo is lying and i will be set for life for this lil precaution and it was because he said to take him as him believe him or not I believe him and not the bashers etc hes gonna show us! plus with the halt you could have months while they are scrambling to get shares for you wheras if you have it it takes a week at most to send certs in and are able to trade like that better than waiting on someone who may not have them and says so and so hasnt sent them yet which has happened when they have been scramblin and i donot want to waste my money!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwLd9B7AEGI

Any one want a laugh.. This is my buddy during the making of our movie on our last surf trip.

That's funny - I didn't know if he was trying to look like a "pimp", "G-money player", or HOWARD STERN!!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Just got off the phone with TDA. Somewhat nice, but no help of course.

They say calling for certs from an IRA account would be taking a distribution...thus tax implications.

I asked about CSHD and why they were restricting the buying. She said that either another brokerage or a MM had brought to their attention some sort of unethical trading going on with it, thus they added it to their list. She made a point to tell me that I can still sell though. I told her I wasn't happy and wanted some free trades. She offered 5, I said 10 and she said no problem.

So, no good way to call for certs from your Roth...now what to do with my regular account?
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
I just thought of something...I wonder if Rufus' suggestion for people to get their stock certificates is a two fold plan on his part to:

1) Dry up the number of shares that are out there to easily trade on-line (magnifies the short squeeze) at the time of re-set and...

2) Forces people to not jump ship immediately after the re-set...thus creating more stability in the PPS and helps facilitates a PPS run up.

He has spoken on both of these issues...just not in relation to the certs.

Thoughts...?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I was going to call them and see if they will hold shares in both your name and in street name.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
2) Forces people to not jump ship immediately after the re-set... [/QB]
You already know it.
 
Posted by Mantux on :
 
Hey guys/gals, does anyone know why we are sliding today.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I just thought of something...I wonder if Rufus' suggestion for people to get their stock certificates is a two fold plan on his part to:

1) Dry up the number of shares that are out there to easily trade on-line (magnifies the short squeeze) at the time of re-set and...

2) Forces people to not jump ship immediately after the re-set...thus creating more stability in the PPS and helps facilitates a PPS run up.

He has spoken on both of these issues...just not in relation to the certs.

Thoughts...?

[Wink]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mantux:
Hey guys/gals, does anyone know why we are sliding today.

...anyone up for writing a novel? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
No offense guys, but when you say "only get $15 from Rufus" I cringe a little. Remember not to get too greedy. Getting $15 for a stock that is trading for $2.45 right now is a HUGE deal. Everyone needs to have an exit strategy in mind, even if you plan to be invested for a long time you have to ask yourself what your goal is and then keep it. Sure your goals can change, but make sure that those changes are based on DD and not Wishful thinking. We all want to make a million dollars in a day, the real question is: what would we accept.

If you find yourself multiplying your number of shares by $54, $78, $124, over and over it makes $15 a share look miniscule by comparison. Believe me..going from $2.45 - $15 is a rare and wonderful occurence. Take what you can get!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Doni- how's your wife feelin'?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
You know whats funny? Check out Ihub, a couple of the people who were screaming scam earlier are now saying "Hey, this stock is resiliant" and "I can't believe that its holding up, must be a strong base"...LOL....
Talk about obvious...they want it to go back up after days of trying to bring it down. Oh the drama.

-flippers getting a low price.. yawn.
(jerk-offs!) he he ~ [Big Grin]

LMAO, thats exactly how I felt while playing IGAI but then realized what I'd been missing out on when 10of13 showed me the light.
Over time your game perfects and you don't even have to worry about the capital you once started with because its already banked.
Every single share I have now in all stocks are "free" shares for me. I love this game!!!

Go CSHD!!! Make me some more moolah!!!!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Jenna, She's tired and getting frustrated. Her first child was 6 weeks early so she has never been this pregnant before. I've got my fingers crossed for this long weekend [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Doni- how's your wife feelin'?


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
are we halted [Big Grin]

just thought I'd throw that out there for old times sake.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGKgqWJeeU8

Here is one for the fellas.. Julie is a 1991 playboy bunny and a good friend of my wife and I. She is fearless.

Take a break... you can't freak out on this crap all day!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
No offense guys, but when you say "only get $15 from Rufus" I cringe a little. Remember not to get too greedy. Getting $15 for a stock that is trading for $2.45 right now is a HUGE deal. Everyone needs to have an exit strategy in mind, even if you plan to be invested for a long time you have to ask yourself what your goal is and then keep it. Sure your goals can change, but make sure that those changes are based on DD and not Wishful thinking. We all want to make a million dollars in a day, the real question is: what would we accept.

If you find yourself multiplying your number of shares by $54, $78, $124, over and over it makes $15 a share look miniscule by comparison. Believe me..going from $2.45 - $15 is a rare and wonderful occurance. Take what you can get!!

You know what makes me cringe. Seeing a market cap of $245 million on a company with audited financials showing $800 million in assets. Then looking at the additional 7.5 Billion being added to that figure and talk of huge secret deals and thinking that this market is gonna be satisfied with a reset to a 1.5 billion dollar market cap on almost 9 Billion in verifyable assets. I am sorry $15 is miniscule when looking at the complete picture. it is like a minor flip on our way to correction.

I can't wait till institutions start crunching the numbers they will "buy the crap out of this at $15 for anyone feeling like flipping and making a mint doing it. [Smile] Personally I think I will stick around and see what happens you can call me "greedy" I will call myself "smart".
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ok who thinks there's no doubt that nite's been holding the pps down for quite awhile now. ooh ooh me me I do I do [Big Grin]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
No offense guys, but when you say "only get $15 from Rufus" I cringe a little. Remember not to get too greedy. Getting $15 for a stock that is trading for $2.45 right now is a HUGE deal. Everyone needs to have an exit strategy in mind, even if you plan to be invested for a long time you have to ask yourself what your goal is and then keep it. Sure your goals can change, but make sure that those changes are based on DD and not Wishful thinking. We all want to make a million dollars in a day, the real question is: what would we accept.

If you find yourself multiplying your number of shares by $54, $78, $124, over and over it makes $15 a share look miniscule by comparison. Believe me..going from $2.45 - $15 is a rare and wonderful occurance. Take what you can get!!

You know what makes me cringe. Seeing a market cap of $245 million on a company with audited financials showing $800 million in assets. Then looking at the additional 7.5 Billion being added to that figure and talk of huge secret deals and thinking that this market is gonna be satisfied with a reset to a 1.5 billion dollar market cap on almost 9 Billion in verifyable assets. I am sorry $15 is miniscule when looking at the complete picture. it is like a minor flip on our way to correction.

I can't wait till institutions start crunching the numbers they will "buy the crap out of this at $15 for anyone feeling like flipping and making a mint doing it. [Smile] Personally I think I will stick around and see what happens you can call me "greedy" I will call myself "smart".

hey tax did you get certs.??
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
okay...so let's say after the reset you just let your shares sit there and the price climbs steady for a year. at the end of one year the price is $100. scottrade goes bankrupt. you have your certs but scotty cannot give you the $ cuz they don't have it( they're bankrupt). i suppose you're just SOL?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
okay...so let's say after the reset you just let your shares sit there and the price climbs steady for a year. at the end of one year the price is $100. scottrade goes bankrupt. you have your certs but scotty cannot give you the $ cuz they don't have it( they're bankrupt). i suppose you're just SOL?

Rufas said last night if you have certs you are covered. I beleive him just don't know if I want to go that route yet...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
funny how we are stuck near fri. close
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
okay...so let's say after the reset you just let your shares sit there and the price climbs steady for a year. at the end of one year the price is $100. scottrade goes bankrupt. you have your certs but scotty cannot give you the $ cuz they don't have it( they're bankrupt). i suppose you're just SOL?

Can you deposit them with another broker? Seems as though you now own them in your name and can deposit to any broker to re-enter them into the market
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I honestly would'nt be worried about scottrade or ameritrade going bankrupt JMO. I don't know if I'll be calling for my certs. Not sure on how I am going to handle this yet.
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Has anyone considered the effect of changing a margin account to being a cash account? Wonder if the brokerages can do that, and if that does any more to shore up your shares....?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
TaxBack, sounds to me like you have a plan based on your DD. You have given the company a value, decided what you would accept and would not accept, and continue to play towards that end.

All my post was suggesting is for everyone to do the same based on their own personal goals.
[Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
No offense guys, but when you say "only get $15 from Rufus" I cringe a little. Remember not to get too greedy. Getting $15 for a stock that is trading for $2.45 right now is a HUGE deal. Everyone needs to have an exit strategy in mind, even if you plan to be invested for a long time you have to ask yourself what your goal is and then keep it. Sure your goals can change, but make sure that those changes are based on DD and not Wishful thinking. We all want to make a million dollars in a day, the real question is: what would we accept.

If you find yourself multiplying your number of shares by $54, $78, $124, over and over it makes $15 a share look miniscule by comparison. Believe me..going from $2.45 - $15 is a rare and wonderful occurance. Take what you can get!!

It's the DD that's making me think long...
We still have 3 Bonds not even on the 8k, one of them is 5 BILLION EURO's (6.3 Billion US)!!!, on top of that Rufus said their are MORE then that coming out on the 10k, then... look at the suds.

$15 right now would be a deal, throw the other 3 bonds that we already looked at on there and it is a steal! Throw more deals on there PLUS Institutional buyers like the ones PR'd...

"BOOM"

Rufus and Ben stated very early on that long term (year/2) they saw $100-200 range. I think they might be right.

There aren't that many shares out there, 110 million (not including FTD's). Trade and do whatever you want, but Rufus is filing these deals with the SEC, in black and white, and he's inviting investors over to his horse ranch where his family can be seen. We found ties to the Republican party...

I think Rufus is on the level and this thing
is going to take flight, with or without us.

I've been here from the beginning, and that is my take on it. Even people who want to flip out, I would leave some shares sit, forget about them, and see where they go in a year, or two, or 10 years time! OMG what a huge play even a 100 shares might be in 10 years!

Just things to keep in mind.....

Do what you will [Smile]
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
okay...so let's say after the reset you just let your shares sit there and the price climbs steady for a year. at the end of one year the price is $100. scottrade goes bankrupt. you have your certs but scotty cannot give you the $ cuz they don't have it( they're bankrupt). i suppose you're just SOL?

If you've got your certs you can get your money from anywhere - they are not "Scottrade Certs"
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by JHenry:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
anybody who watches BloombergTV or MSNBC has seen dozens of stocks halted and reset on news...

the market makers decide where to reset...

Hey Glass - Any idea how long the halt usually is. Hours or Days
Good Question....anybody know?
general info:
http://www.sec.gov/answers/tradinghalt.htm

although, as *I* understand it, the halt this CEO promises is atypical...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
No offense guys, but when you say "only get $15 from Rufus" I cringe a little. Remember not to get too greedy. Getting $15 for a stock that is trading for $2.45 right now is a HUGE deal. Everyone needs to have an exit strategy in mind, even if you plan to be invested for a long time you have to ask yourself what your goal is and then keep it. Sure your goals can change, but make sure that those changes are based on DD and not Wishful thinking. We all want to make a million dollars in a day, the real question is: what would we accept.

If you find yourself multiplying your number of shares by $54, $78, $124, over and over it makes $15 a share look miniscule by comparison. Believe me..going from $2.45 - $15 is a rare and wonderful occurance. Take what you can get!!

It's the DD that's making me think long...
We still have 3 Bonds not even on the 8k, one of them is 5 BILLION EURO's (6.3 Billion US)!!!, on top of that Rufus said their are MORE then that coming out on the 10k, then... look at the suds.

$15 right now would be a deal, throw the other 3 bonds that we already looked at on there and it is a steal! Throw more deals on there PLUS Institutional buyers like the ones PR'd...

"BOOM"

Rufus and Ben stated very early on that long term (year/2) they saw $100-200 range. I think they might be right.

There aren't that many shares out there, 110 million (not including FTD's). Trade and do whatever you want, but Rufus is filing these deals with the SEC, in black and white, and he's inviting investors over to his horse ranch where his family can be seen. We found ties to the Republican party...

I think Rufus is on the level and this thing
is going to take flight, with or without us.

I've been here from the beginning, and that is my take on it. Even people who want to flip out, I would leave some shares sit, forget about them, and see where they go in a year, or two, or 10 years time! OMG what a huge play even a 100 shares might be in 10 years!

Just things to keep in mind.....

Do what you will [Smile]

why did rufas mention that there were only 37 mil. shares last night??
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
chart,
i don't have that many shares but if this thing turns into $100, it will still be worth protecting in the long run. maybe i am freaking out a little bit here, but if there is any chance of scotty or any online discount going b/r, i don't want to get caught with my pants down. any thoughts?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
okay...so let's say after the reset you just let your shares sit there and the price climbs steady for a year. at the end of one year the price is $100. scottrade goes bankrupt. you have your certs but scotty cannot give you the $ cuz they don't have it( they're bankrupt). i suppose you're just SOL?

Open an account anywhere and turn them in! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

YOU have them!!

Otherwise... SOL!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:


why did rufas mention that there were only 37 mil. shares last night??
i read that last night as well and was hoping someone could expound on that...
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
I spoke with my Scottrade representative again today. Her name is Andrea 972-788-2337. She says that when I called her a couple of weeks ago (about this issue) she made some phone calls to the powers that be. She says that they assured her that:

1) Scottrade does not sell shares short on stocks that are under $5.00. Says it's impossible.

2) Scottrade does not sell shares short on cash accounts.

3) Scottrade does not sell naked shares...period.

4. The shares that are in my account are indeed my shares.

5. I will not have a problem selling my shares (electronically) at any time...even if the price goes up to $100-200 per share.

6. In order to sell my shares once I order certs, I would have to re-deposit them and wait 2-3 days.

7. Scottarde does not have a MM that works for them. The trades are issued electronically and various MMs complete the transaction.

8. If the MM is selling naked shares, it's his/her responsibility to cover.

9. It's impossible for me to have been sold naked shares, because they would have known it upon the settlement date (3 days later).

I did tell her that if there was any funny business going on with Scottrade and the naked shorting, they (the powers that be) would not tell her.

I did ask her to guarantee that I would not have any problem selling my shares at any time, and she said "No, you will not have any problem".

I do think that Scottrade might not be in as deep as AMTD because you can still buy shares of CSHD.

I did notice a little stress in her voice when discussing this...don't want to read too much into it (she might just be tired of dealing with this).

Not sure if I feel better... [Confused]
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I still can't decide certs or no certs, or partial...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
for some reason he said that they had only issued 37 mil. shares. Thats all they were accountable for. He then expounded on the fact that the volume of the last 5 days literally went through all shares.. I am baffled.

The float is close to this # but I beleive the share count is triple that
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
tex says:

although, as *I* understand it, the halt this CEO promises is atypical...


absolutely, and so is everyhting else about this CEO and this play...

Rufus has said and done alot of things i just plain don't like...

my ASSUMPTIOON is that he has REAL BIG money behind him, and he has been playing head games with the short-sellers..

the way this stock has held up under pressure can in NO WAY be explained by the "koolaid drinkers theory"

qbid and cmk? were cellar boxed with no problem.... they are koolaid stocks

this one? not even close to cellar boxed...

this play has been more like Muhammed Ali doing the -rope-a-dope-

the shorts appear on the market? and somebody buys them....

WHY?

i have no friggin idear.....
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I spoke with my Scottrade representative again today. Her name is Andrea 972-788-2337. She says that when I called her a couple of weeks ago (about this issue) she made some phone calls to the powers that be. She says that they assured her that:

1) Scottrade does not sell shares short on stocks that are under $5.00. Says it's impossible.

2) Scottrade does not sells shares short on cash accounts.

3) Scottrade does not sell naked shares...period.

4. The shares that are in my account are indeed my shares.

5. I will not have a problem selling my shares (electronically) at any time...even if the price goes up to $100-200 per share.

6. In order to sell my shares once I order certs, I would have to re-deposit them and wait 2-3 days.

7. Scottarde does not have a MM that works for them. The trades are issued electronically and various MMs complete the transaction.

8. If the MM is selling naked shares, it's his/her responsibility to cover.

9. It's impossible for me to have been sold naked shares, because they would have known it upon the settlement date (3 days later).

I did tell her that if there was any funny business going on with Scottrade and the naked shorting, they (the powers that be) would not tell her.

I did ask her to gaurantee that I would not have any problem selling my shares at any time, and she said "No, you will not have any problem".

I do think that Scottrade might not be in as deep as AMTD because you can still buy shares of CSHD.

I did notice a little stress in her voice when discussing this...don't want to read too much into it (she might just be tired of dealing with this).

Not sure if I feel better... [Confused]

GREAT!! [Frown]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
No offense guys, but when you say "only get $15 from Rufus" I cringe a little. Remember not to get too greedy. Getting $15 for a stock that is trading for $2.45 right now is a HUGE deal. Everyone needs to have an exit strategy in mind, even if you plan to be invested for a long time you have to ask yourself what your goal is and then keep it. Sure your goals can change, but make sure that those changes are based on DD and not Wishful thinking. We all want to make a million dollars in a day, the real question is: what would we accept.

If you find yourself multiplying your number of shares by $54, $78, $124, over and over it makes $15 a share look miniscule by comparison. Believe me..going from $2.45 - $15 is a rare and wonderful occurance. Take what you can get!!

It's the DD that's making me think long...
We still have 3 Bonds not even on the 8k, one of them is 5 BILLION EURO's (6.3 Billion US)!!!, on top of that Rufus said their are MORE then that coming out on the 10k, then... look at the suds.

$15 right now would be a deal, throw the other 3 bonds that we already looked at on there and it is a steal! Throw more deals on there PLUS Institutional buyers like the ones PR'd...

"BOOM"

Rufus and Ben stated very early on that long term (year/2) they saw $100-200 range. I think they might be right.

There aren't that many shares out there, 110 million (not including FTD's). Trade and do whatever you want, but Rufus is filing these deals with the SEC, in black and white, and he's inviting investors over to his horse ranch where his family can be seen. We found ties to the Republican party...

I think Rufus is on the level and this thing
is going to take flight, with or without us.

I've been here from the beginning, and that is my take on it. Even people who want to flip out, I would leave some shares sit, forget about them, and see where they go in a year, or two, or 10 years time! OMG what a huge play even a 100 shares might be in 10 years!

Just things to keep in mind.....

Do what you will [Smile]

why did rufas mention that there were only 37 mil. shares last night??
I BELIEVE......
110 is all
what Rufus mentioned was the float...

-correct me if I'm wrong board.... thx. [Smile]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
The float last time I called integrity was * 30 mil.

I will call right now
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
chart,
i don't have that many shares but if this thing turns into $100, it will still be worth protecting in the long run. maybe i am freaking out a little bit here, but if there is any chance of scotty or any online discount going b/r, i don't want to get caught with my pants down. any thoughts?

Knowledge is power, understand WHERE you and the stock are now "then" make a choice...

Click the video below "The BIG PICTURE" then you'll be able to understand, and make a informed choice. [Smile]

GLTY!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
are we halted [Big Grin]

just thought I'd throw that out there for old times sake.

Oh my GOD I almost chokes on my Pizza!
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
okay y'all...talk to u later tonite. back to work for me [Smile]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
you guys that are NOT with AMTRD need to quit pestering your brokers and pester your Senators and Congresspersons..

AMTRD? i don't know waht to tell you...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
tex says:

although, as *I* understand it, the halt this CEO promises is atypical...



the shorts appear on the market? and somebody buys them....

WHY?

i have no friggin idear.....

that link you posted earlier about Zachary and his buddy hedgie folk i think could lend to an explanation...i'm of the opinion someone unrelated to Rufie & Co. got a wif of this and sold short ginormous amounts...then...the hedgie behind rufus(or simply a rival hedgie) started buying those shorts as they were being sold off...

now we are seeing the two battle it out...kinda like two street dogs fighting over a ribeye...

and if that isn't true...it'd make a decent dime novel...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I spoke with my Scottrade representative again today. Her name is Andrea 972-788-2337. She says that when I called her a couple of weeks ago (about this issue) she made some phone calls to the powers that be. She says that they assured her that:

1) Scottrade does not sell shares short on stocks that are under $5.00. Says it's impossible.

2) Scottrade does not sell shares short on cash accounts.

3) Scottrade does not sell naked shares...period.

4. The shares that are in my account are indeed my shares.

5. I will not have a problem selling my shares (electronically) at any time...even if the price goes up to $100-200 per share.

6. In order to sell my shares once I order certs, I would have to re-deposit them and wait 2-3 days.

7. Scottarde does not have a MM that works for them. The trades are issued electronically and various MMs complete the transaction.

8. If the MM is selling naked shares, it's his/her responsibility to cover.

9. It's impossible for me to have been sold naked shares, because they would have known it upon the settlement date (3 days later).

I did tell her that if there was any funny business going on with Scottrade and the naked shorting, they (the powers that be) would not tell her.

I did ask her to guarantee that I would not have any problem selling my shares at any time, and she said "No, you will not have any problem".

I do think that Scottrade might not be in as deep as AMTD because you can still buy shares of CSHD.

I did notice a little stress in her voice when discussing this...don't want to read too much into it (she might just be tired of dealing with this).

Not sure if I feel better... [Confused]

"NOBO list"
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
FYI... I had to pay a fee of $75 to get my cert from ChoiceTrade, you also have to email them to authorize the transaction. They were very helpful and said it should take 2-4 weeks for me to recieve my cert from the TA...GLTA
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
They are not answering. I am sure they have received about 1000 calls today regarding certs.

I kept a written log on the float and last I checked it was 29,486,569. That was on 9-11-06

Some one later posted a # over 30 mil. last

This is the float though not tradable shares.

And I think you are correct in thinking that it is 110 MIL.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I just got off the phone with a transfer-agent who was very pissed off at TDAmeritrade. NOT the transfer agent for CSHD, but one for PAVC. I was asking about my shares from the recent reverse split and when I told him my shares were with TDAmeritrade, he got kind of angry.

It is relevant to this thread because this gentleman claims that Ameritrade was also shorting JPHC/PAIV/PAVC and held up the requests for transfer of shares since May when PAIV was JPHC. He said they didn't do anything with them until September, even though the merger was in May. Now they are backlogged with over thousands of "packages" that need to be dealt with.

Certs or no certs, if I had my CSHD stock with TDAmeritrade, I'd seriously think about moving it somewhere else prior to the reset. Otherwise, who knows how long your shares will be in limbo.

TDAmeritrade seems to be getting a bad rep.

Jo
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
The share count is in one of the P.R.'s I just can't remember which one.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Highlights from the SubPennyRadio interview.

1. All the information is in the 8KA and other documents already filed by CSHD. 10K will also have a few new deals the company has negotiated.

2. Must have stock in your name not street name to be assured of the stock being real and not fake shares.

3. The board of directors have voted to set aside 900M dollars to buy back shares if they don't like the direction the market is taking up to $35 per share. THis will apply to shareholders that are on file with the TA.

4. They have already begun to make this a real time corporation. Meaning that investors will be given a logon and can track the financial health of the company at all times.

5. They are going to do something that has never been done before to elimante shorts. Did not give details.

6. Has been contacted by the SEC with questions reagrding his posting on bulletin boards and the bonds with Humanitarian Foundation. Said it was not an investigation just informal questions.

7. Made allegations against several "bashers", JJ, Tim from PQL research, Demi from I HUB and a few others. (My understanding was this was based on info from other people posting not research by the comming)

8. Mike Alexander is still involved. Let slip that he was working on a big deal. No specifics.

9. Stated that all dealing of the company are filed with the Georgia courts and therefore public record.

10. This didn't start out as a short squeeze but the market has forced their hand. They knew they would have to deal with it but the timeline advanced.

11. Waiting on a document from the Government that they should get by 5pm Thursday once they have that document the 10K will be filed. Did not say when but that it would be filed within compliance with the SEC.

12. Talked about the bonds from the Humanitarian foundation. Those bonds came from an organization in Asia and had been assigned to them by someone else. When the person was contacted he was not happy. they are in contact with the individual.

13. AISS is a JV with CVSU and Georgia Aerospace. Mensah was ousted because someone contacted him and made him believe they would provide financing. Un fortunate occurance but Mensah is very smart with patents and his area of expetise but not business.

14. Price reset will be according to the merger agreement $15. The actual book value is higher with the addition of assests.

15. The company will help all people who have purchased share get thier money whether they are real shares or counterfiet.

16. Someone placed CSHD on the Berlin Exchange without authorization of the company. The shares that were trading there were not real shares.

17. Original investors in Waatle were high dollar investors. The type that didn't flinch at put down $1M or more.

18. The float is gone because he knows people and investment banks in Europe that own more shares then the float. Mentioned a personal friend of his who had bought more than a milliom shares yet his name did not show up on the NOBO list.

THis is from my recollection of the interview last night. I believe I have accurately chronicled it. If anyone listening disagrees please post corrections. There is more and I will try to post as I have time to put it down on paper.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Originally Posted by PaulieWalnuts
Here is somthing that has not been addressed from last night's interview. Rufus stated that he "heard" four traders were arrested by Fed. Marshalls last Fri. I have also "heard" rumors about this. I "heard" that they were ARCA traders, and that they were representing Barron Moore Securities in shorting CSHD. Guess who was a partner at Barron Moore? The owner of ***. I am trying to confirm this. If anyone has any connections with the Federal Marshall's office or any Federal agency that mighy have arrest records, I would like to know if this is true. Can you immagine the fallout at *** and Barron Moore if it is?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
thanks Wally i rememebered you writing last night that you would write something up with your notes...much appreciated...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I found it.. The one that explains the 75 mil. short shares has a total of tradeable shares at 30.9 Mil... WTF
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
9. Stated that all dealing of the company are filed with the Georgia courts and therefore public record.

Wally this is true. Ryan and I checked this A.M. The bond everything is there
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
The float last time I called integrity was * 30 mil.

I will call right now

I beleive that the float changes as shares come off restriction and as Certs are called for. I could be wrong but I remember talking with the TA a few weeks back and when I asked about Float it stated aft handedly that it changed rapidly and at that time was approx 36M.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i just got off the phone with them as well.
im losing my marbles - cant believe the profits i am missing out on.

and my guy, john, told me TDAm's reason for restricting opening trans is b/c of stuff the CEO said.

ACAT transfer of shares to another borker would take 7-10 biz days.

only choice is to liquidate my position, wire transfer the funds to my bank, then wire transfer them again to a new borker.

and asked about putting them in my name. john said yes he could do that - and thats the only way i would show up on a list if the shareholders were queried - but there was no reason to do so.

i told him what i thought of any advice coming to TDAm [Wink]

tecnically, so long as we have proof we hold shares, i dont think rufus can "selectively' make a tender offer at $15.

i hate hate hate all the time this is taking. dont have the time to go thru this chit.


so - what borker ISNT having issues here? glass, i know u went full service but does that give you access during all hours?

any Borking recommends? quick? if i transfer today i can have a buy in for morning. we werent expecting news tonite, rite?

*sigh*
i hate that im in this quandry it is so unfair.
anyone think a HOD may still come, since i gotta liquidate?

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Just got off the phone with TDA. Somewhat nice, but no help of course.

They say calling for certs from an IRA account would be taking a distribution...thus tax implications.

I asked about CSHD and why they were restricting the buying. She said that either another brokerage or a MM had brought to their attention some sort of unethical trading going on with it, thus they added it to their list. She made a point to tell me that I can still sell though. I told her I wasn't happy and wanted some free trades. She offered 5, I said 10 and she said no problem.

So, no good way to call for certs from your Roth...now what to do with my regular account?


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
http://www.gsccca.org
Is the site with mergers bonds etc. rufas referred to last night
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i just got off the phone with them as well.
im losing my marbles - cant believe the profits i am missing out on.

and my guy, john, told me TDAm's reason for restricting opening trans is b/c of stuff the CEO said.

ACAT transfer of shares to another borker would take 7-10 biz days.

only choice is to liquidate my position, wire transfer the funds to my bank, then wire transfer them again to a new borker.

and asked about putting them in my name. john said yes he could do that - and thats the only way i would show up on a list if the shareholders were queried - but there was no reason to do so.

i told him what i thought of any advice coming to TDAm [Wink]

tecnically, so long as we have proof we hold shares, i dont think rufus can "selectively' make a tender offer at $15.

i hate hate hate all the time this is taking. dont have the time to go thru this chit.


so - what borker ISNT having issues here? glass, i know u went full service but does that give you access during all hours?

any Borking recommends? quick? if i transfer today i can have a buy in for morning. we werent expecting news tonite, rite?

*sigh*
i hate that im in this quandry it is so unfair.
anyone think a HOD may still come, since i gotta liquidate?

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Just got off the phone with TDA. Somewhat nice, but no help of course.

They say calling for certs from an IRA account would be taking a distribution...thus tax implications.

I asked about CSHD and why they were restricting the buying. She said that either another brokerage or a MM had brought to their attention some sort of unethical trading going on with it, thus they added it to their list. She made a point to tell me that I can still sell though. I told her I wasn't happy and wanted some free trades. She offered 5, I said 10 and she said no problem.

So, no good way to call for certs from your Roth...now what to do with my regular account?


So you are saying if Rufus chose to bought us out at $15...and the shares are in street name that we owe, potentially we may not be able to be bought out?
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
BB, call choicetrade, I transfered to them and I'm very satisfied 1-877-731-9114
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Originally Posted by PaulieWalnuts
Here is somthing that has not been addressed from last night's interview. Rufus stated that he "heard" four traders were arrested by Fed. Marshalls last Fri. I have also "heard" rumors about this. I "heard" that they were ARCA traders, and that they were representing Barron Moore Securities in shorting CSHD. Guess who was a partner at Barron Moore? The owner of M N 1. I am trying to confirm this. If anyone has any connections with the Federal Marshall's office or any Federal agency that mighy have arrest records, I would like to know if this is true. Can you immagine the fallout at M N 1 and Barron Moore if it is?

updated...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
so - what borker ISNT having issues here? glass, i know u went full service but does that give you access during all hours?

heck no... they are terrible at being away from their desk...

full service has a different meaning to them...
it means they'll take you out to lunch once in awhile [Big Grin]

and it means they won't just cut off trading cuz it's inconvenient...
they paid no income taxes on nearly a billion in profits several times since 2000...
that's what full service means...

it also means that if any MM shorted them? they'll collect fersher....
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
babe I just got off the phone with choice trade. The guy told me if I did transfered just my cshd shares it should only take 4days. I asked if my name could be placed on the certs along with the street name and he said. the only way to get my name on the certs was to request the certs. I also don't think we'll be going much higher today with nite once again in total control.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
BB your guy told you Aturd will put your name on them?

I was told twice they wouldn't.

I chose to get certs. I feel forced to do so by Aturd. I trust Rufus more than them at this point. We'll see.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by betting babe:
So you are saying if Rufus chose to bought us out at $15...and the shares are in street name that we owe, potentially we may not be able to be bought out?

NO i didnt even come close to saying that.

i said the OPPOSITE.

street name or our name, the action would have to apply to the stockholder regardless of how they're held.

~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i think im gonna go visit my banker at chase. a quick solution would be to wire him the funds and drop em rite back into the market.
wondering what the costs would be.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Okay another thing that I remember from last night was that Ben and Rufus kept talking about Merill Lynch. How they trusted them and that they were very safe. There was some snickering going on.

Now this next part is Speculation and Speculation only based on what I heard. It's possible that Lynch is who they are dealing with in regard to underwriting the stock. I beleive Lynch recently acquired a MM. Just something to think about.

Also on another note. I am very conflicted about last night's interview and what is happening with this stock. I have concerns and I have hope. I would strongly recommend that people listen to the interview for themselves.

I would hope that anybody that has money in this take the time to analyze the whole situation and make the decisions they are comfortable with from that point. Do not get caught up in either the enthusiasm or negativity of any other poster. If need be take a step back calmly think and then act.

I have no recommendations as to whether anyone should buy sell or hold. Just that you make the decision on your own with a clear mind.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i wouldnt put it past TDAm to hold em up just cuz of what they are.
i insisted it shouldnt take mroe than 4 days. he said no way, 7-10.

i already have a choicetrade acct open in name just unfunded.

quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
babe I just got off the phone with choice trade. The guy told me if I did transfered just my cshd shares it should only take 4days. I asked if my name could be placed on the certs along with the street name and he said. the only way to get my name on the certs was to request the certs. I also don't think we'll be going much higher today with nite once again in total control.


 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
chase no go. investment guy isnt even full time there.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Wally that outline was EXCELLENT ~

Wish I could vote you another 5 stars.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
BB? If you have the funds...maybe buy when it is low today through choice and sell your ameritrade shares at a high tomorrow? But if you are getting any certs for the long haul....get them from Ameritrade and you can deposit them down the road at what ever broker you choose...just a thought...

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i wouldnt put it past TDAm to hold em up just cuz of what they are.
i insisted it shouldnt take mroe than 4 days. he said no way, 7-10.

i already have a choicetrade acct open in name just unfunded.

quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
babe I just got off the phone with choice trade. The guy told me if I did transfered just my cshd shares it should only take 4days. I asked if my name could be placed on the certs along with the street name and he said. the only way to get my name on the certs was to request the certs. I also don't think we'll be going much higher today with nite once again in total control.



 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGKgqWJeeU8

Here is one for the fellas.. Julie is a 1991 playboy bunny and a good friend of my wife and I. She is fearless.

Take a break... you can't freak out on this crap all day!!

Dang, thanks alot - and I told my wife I wasn't going to spank my monkey today.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
checking w friend at merrill
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
No offense guys, but when you say "only get $15 from Rufus" I cringe a little. Remember not to get too greedy. Getting $15 for a stock that is trading for $2.45 right now is a HUGE deal. Everyone needs to have an exit strategy in mind, even if you plan to be invested for a long time you have to ask yourself what your goal is and then keep it. Sure your goals can change, but make sure that those changes are based on DD and not Wishful thinking. We all want to make a million dollars in a day, the real question is: what would we accept.

If you find yourself multiplying your number of shares by $54, $78, $124, over and over it makes $15 a share look miniscule by comparison. Believe me..going from $2.45 - $15 is a rare and wonderful occurance. Take what you can get!!

It's the DD that's making me think long...
We still have 3 Bonds not even on the 8k, one of them is 5 BILLION EURO's (6.3 Billion US)!!!, on top of that Rufus said their are MORE then that coming out on the 10k, then... look at the suds.

$15 right now would be a deal, throw the other 3 bonds that we already looked at on there and it is a steal! Throw more deals on there PLUS Institutional buyers like the ones PR'd...

"BOOM"

Rufus and Ben stated very early on that long term (year/2) they saw $100-200 range. I think they might be right.

There aren't that many shares out there, 110 million (not including FTD's). Trade and do whatever you want, but Rufus is filing these deals with the SEC, in black and white, and he's inviting investors over to his horse ranch where his family can be seen. We found ties to the Republican party...

I think Rufus is on the level and this thing
is going to take flight, with or without us.

I've been here from the beginning, and that is my take on it. Even people who want to flip out, I would leave some shares sit, forget about them, and see where they go in a year, or two, or 10 years time! OMG what a huge play even a 100 shares might be in 10 years!

Just things to keep in mind.....

Do what you will [Smile]

why did rufas mention that there were only 37 mil. shares last night??
in the float.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Holding pretty steady lately..
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
anybody switching to a top-notch borkerage house:

do not "freak out" when you get a letter of non-solicitation from them on your first penny purchase... they just do that to protect themselves from litgation...

i framed my first one...

i bought OWENQ at .35$ a few years back.. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ok theyre researching if there are any restrictions at merrill.

my friend tried to buy / sell and both appeared ready to be queued, so he thinks its all fine.

looks like ill be moving my account over there.
my friend is sick with the fact that i wasnt able to trade as it hit 4 bux the other day.

also agrees something is fishy w TDAm no buys only sells policy. should be the other way around...


still not sure of exit / enter price. i still feel theres a run here.

wish i could have one PR to clarify it [Frown]

~BB
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
arca lined up to buy a ton of shares
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
and up she goes.

ugh. gotta go be a model for a few. then im hitting the Merrill office.

it's good to have an ex who's a merrill VP of global private client [Wink]
 
Posted by hawki2 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I just thought of something...I wonder if Rufus' suggestion for people to get their stock certificates is a two fold plan on his part to:

1) Dry up the number of shares that are out there to easily trade on-line (magnifies the short squeeze) at the time of re-set and...

2) Forces people to not jump ship immediately after the re-set...thus creating more stability in the PPS and helps facilitates a PPS run up.

He has spoken on both of these issues...just not in relation to the certs.

Thoughts...?

I think you actually hit it on the head...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok theyre researching if there are any restrictions at merrill.

my friend tried to buy / sell and both appeared ready to be queued, so he thinks its all fine.

looks like ill be moving my account over there.
my friend is sick with the fact that i wasnt able to trade as it hit 4 bux the other day.

also agrees something is fishy w TDAm no buys only sells policy. should be the other way around...


still not sure of exit / enter price. i still feel theres a run here.

wish i could have one PR to clarify it [Frown]

~BB

I'm with you there. I think there is another run here maybe even a couple. I wouldn't be surprised to see this run back to $3 EOD or before.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey babe when you get the particulars from Merrill can you let me know. I'm definately thinking of transferring
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i turned my merrill friend on to this stock at 30 cents.
he's a believer [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
anybody switching to a top-notch borkerage house:

do not "freak out" when you get a letter of non-solicitation from them on your first penny purchase... they just do that to protect themselves from litgation...

i framed my first one...

i bought OWENQ at .35$ a few years back.. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by cassity on :
 
From: HSM Can anyone translate this?

tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 180 'eza kan el-kalam min faDah fa el-sukoot min dahab

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
<'eza kan el-kalam min faDah fa el-sukoot min dahab>

Literal translation: if speech is silver, silence is gold.
Hidden meaning: silence will always be of more value than talk.
Applicability: when someone's speech is meaningless/damaging.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Anyone want to know why the stock just jumped off of 2.49? I just put my first buy in at that ask. HA Losers!
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
From: HSM Can anyone translate this?

tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 180 'eza kan el-kalam min faDah fa el-sukoot min dahab

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash

Ya, it says:

"Julie Clarke is one hot babe. Ooof!!"
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
see arca at 2.50 with a lot size of 200
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Oh this is gonna be fun. [Big Grin] It is like building a shelf. If they want to take it down they gotta give me some shares. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Anyone want to know why the stock just jumped off of 2.49? I just put my first buy in at that ask. HA Losers!

Because ARCA is sitting on the bid with a lot size of 200!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i think im gonna go visit my banker at chase. a quick solution would be to wire him the funds and drop em rite back into the market.
wondering what the costs would be.

BB I just got off the phone with my bank Am south. They said I could open a trade acct. with them.. within one day.. wire funds from acct.

BUT I can't get money from scotty for 3 days.

I have the money in acct to attain what I had in scotty.. Jeez I am sick of this..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thought:

i wonder if i can get a group together for merrill and get reduced commissions for us for quantity?

anyone interested in trying?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
From: HSM Can anyone translate this?

tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 180 'eza kan el-kalam min faDah fa el-sukoot min dahab

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash

Literal translation: if speech is silver, silence is gold.

I think
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
Literal translation: If speech is silver, silence is gold. The costly news of today, will be free tomorrow.

Hidden meaning: Silence will always be of more value than talk. The secrets of today will, in time, be common knowledge.

Applicability: When someone's speech is meaningless/damaging. When someone is going out of his way to find out about something.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
From: HSM Can anyone translate this?

tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 180 'eza kan el-kalam min faDah fa el-sukoot min dahab

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash

Ya, it says:

"Julie Clarke is one hot babe. Ooof!!"

lol!!!

Actually, her figure looks alot like my current girlfriend! No chit! ~ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Right now I will examine every opportunity. Thanks for the effort Babe oh did you see that myself and surfer found all the information. rufus was talking about at the www.gsccca.org website.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
<'eza kan el-kalam min faDah fa el-sukoot min dahab>

Literal translation: if speech is silver, silence is gold.
Hidden meaning: silence will always be of more value than talk.
Applicability: when someone's speech is meaningless/damaging.

I think he wants us to keep the mm's from knowing how we are reacting to all this.

In other words act happy..

Beautiful day is'nt it
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i'm beginning to see that more and more negative posters at the ihub are tasting the "koolaid" LOL....

whether they actually get on the bus or not? now that's a different question [Big Grin]

 -
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
thought:

i wonder if i can get a group together for merrill and get reduced commissions for us for quantity?

anyone interested in trying?

BB,
SOOOOOO interested!!!!!!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
careful with commissions and services from a regular 'bank" is what im told.
may not be as effective as a full-serice dedicated broker.

u should be able to liquidate and transfer immed if u have a margin acct.
just dont transfer more than what u have in ur acct or ull get a margin-call-wakeup [Wink]

transfer of funds alone is only a few hours.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
The instant I sent my buy order in 2.49 the spread was 2.47 x 2.49... the second after I hit submit it jumped to 2.51 x 2.52. I made the number nice and round, did not set the AON, and made it a multiple of the bid size. It looked like I touched them with a lit match.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
oh and YES answer is merrill did just acquire a MM
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I am glad you guys liked that vid. she is a great person too..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yes! thx havent had a chance to digest it yet.
i figured it would just take time for the system to register the info - i think we were all searching too early.


will update if we can get a group commissions rate for merrill after my 4pm meeting.

i dont see why not.

quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Right now I will examine every opportunity. Thanks for the effort Babe oh did you see that myself and surfer found all the information. rufus was talking about at the www.gsccca.org website.


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OK it is sitting here for a bit... let's see what happens when I change the price to 2.54 with the same amount and settings.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Surfer - It's amazing how much Julie Clark & I look alike!! (I wish)!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
tita
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 144 Quote:
Originally Posted by mguo1


Anyway, I just got a packet from Schwab asking me to lend my shares to them at a 8%. Its very official looking and has a nice neat folder and color papthlets(sp) and saying how valuable CSHD is so they wants my shares!!
__________________
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Boom they took it! yeah I have more. OK next order.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Boom they took it! yeah I have more. OK next order.

--kid in a candy store! LOL ~

New2... gotta love that news huh?!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
ARCA is on the bid at 2.5 with a lot size of 202. I think we are going to break out again!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Boom they took it! yeah I have more. OK next order.

--kid in a candy store! LOL ~

New2... gotta love that news huh?!!

Oh yeah I am more than a bit excited. dancing at my desk again... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey glass who over at ihub were you getting the impression were changing their tune about this stock.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
tita
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 144 Quote:
Originally Posted by mguo1


Anyway, I just got a packet from Schwab asking me to lend my shares to them at a 8%. Its very official looking and has a nice neat folder and color papthlets(sp) and saying how valuable CSHD is so they wants my shares!!
__________________

really?? Killer
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
INTERESTING QUESTION:

so if we all start defecting outta TDAm and they gotta transfer our shares (or we liquidate)...

what happens to the air shares?

kinda screws TDAm if the volume gets high enough eh?

~BB
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
lol. I gues we're not worried about air-shares any more? Thats good because really, has anyone ever heard of somone losing shares that they bought through a broker becauses they had been shorted? I haven't
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Merrill buys market maker
June 6, 2000: 9:12 a.m. ET

$900M buy of top Nasdaq market maker boosts brokerage's online presence








NEW YORK (CNNfn) - Embracing an online business it has traditionally shunned, Merrill Lynch agreed Tuesday to pay about $900 million in stock for Herzog Heine Geduld, the third largest U.S. firm linking buyers and sellers on the Nasdaq.

The deal propels Merrill Lynch into second place behind the nation's leading market maker, the Jersey City, N.J.-based Knight/Trimark Group. The privately owned Herzog, also of Jersey City, said it makes markets in about 5,000 Nasdaq stocks, including every IPO and secondary offering.

The acquisition significantly bolsters the brokerage firm's ability to conduct high-volume trading in over-the-counter stocks on the technology-rich Nasdaq. Herzog has an 8 percent market share in the OTC markets, analysts said. Market makers offer to buy and sell stock for investors and make money on the spread between a stock's asking price and offer price.

"Merrill used to be the largest market maker years ago and got out when the spreads narrowed," said analyst Robert Napoli of investment bank ABN AMRO. "They viewed that as a mistake and are trying to get back in. It's a very profitable business."

Merrill had considered building its own OTC market maker but decided instead to go with Herzog, analysts said. Herzog says it handles 6-to-8 percent of Nasdaq's total trading volumes

"Instead of building a market maker, they bought it," said Napoli.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Asurfer - you asked me a question earlier that I couldn't answer because I was at lunch. Yes after I get my fill today and tomorrow I plan on getting certs for about 80% of my truck load. Just the shares I plan of taking down the long road.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
anyone interested in the merrill group email me so i get a feeling for the value of investment we may have?

meeting them at 4p. im off now.

~BB
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
lol. I gues we're not worried about air-shares any more? Thats good because really, has anyone ever heard of somone losing shares that they bought through a broker becauses they had been shorted? I haven't

There was an example on here a few weeks ago... go look at the old thread. I cant remember the symbol, but AMTD was liquidating people's accounts.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
INTERESTING QUESTION:

so if we all start defecting outta TDAm and they gotta transfer our shares (or we liquidate)...

what happens to the air shares?

kinda screws TDAm if the volume gets high enough eh?

~BB

Did anyone think that maybe TDA WANTS people to transfer out so somebody else has to deal with the DFT's?

"?"
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ok it's that time of day. place your bets for eod pps. right now I'll say a decent ralley and we end up at open
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Asurfer - you asked me a question earlier that I couldn't answer because I was at lunch. Yes after I get my fill today and tomorrow I plan on getting certs for about 80% of my truck load. Just the shares I plan of taking down the long road.

Thanks Tax.. I am thinking along the same lines.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
ok it's that time of day. place your bets for eod pps. right now I'll say a decent ralley and we end up at open

I am thinking 2.60ish
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
boo yaaaa!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
is it me or do the l2's look very thin up to $2.70
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
EOD - 2.58
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
ok it's that time of day. place your bets for eod pps. right now I'll say a decent ralley and we end up at open

I am thinking 2.60ish
2.87
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
yeah I'm shooting for the moon surfer.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Lots of buys....small sells....I'm going to say....

$2.64
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
"Feed me Seymore, feed meee..." Yumm yum yum. [Wink]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
They will not give me 2.49, for nothing!
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
EOD 2.97-3.07
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Tax I am trying to buy 1001 at 2.49.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
You have to threaten them Tax..


"I will Smack you in the mouth...I'm Taxback04"
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Thanks Doni that worked [Wink]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
got it.. LOL
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Tax I am trying to buy 1001 at 2.49.

They want to walk it down, they can't if the shares they have at that price are bought...

-see where you stand? [Smile]
kinda sucks!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yes, but liquidating would be different no?

im taking my money not my stocks.

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
INTERESTING QUESTION:

so if we all start defecting outta TDAm and they gotta transfer our shares (or we liquidate)...

what happens to the air shares?

kinda screws TDAm if the volume gets high enough eh?

~BB

Did anyone think that maybe TDA WANTS people to transfer out so somebody else has to deal with the DFT's?

"?"


 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Originally Posted by PaulieWalnuts
Here is somthing that has not been addressed from last night's interview. Rufus stated that he "heard" four traders were arrested by Fed. Marshalls last Fri. I have also "heard" rumors about this. I "heard" that they were ARCA traders, and that they were representing Barron Moore Securities in shorting CSHD. Guess who was a partner at Barron Moore? The owner of ***. I am trying to confirm this. If anyone has any connections with the Federal Marshall's office or any Federal agency that mighy have arrest records, I would like to know if this is true. Can you immagine the fallout at *** and Barron Moore if it is?

Chart: Please tell me the *** does not stand for Scottrade. [Eek!]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Tax I am trying to buy 1001 at 2.49.

They want to walk it down, they can't if the shares they have at that price are bought...

-see where you stand? [Smile]
kinda sucks!

They filled it.. I screamed RUFAS!!!!!

kinda like Braveheart... LOL
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Originally Posted by PaulieWalnuts
Here is somthing that has not been addressed from last night's interview. Rufus stated that he "heard" four traders were arrested by Fed. Marshalls last Fri. I have also "heard" rumors about this. I "heard" that they were ARCA traders, and that they were representing Barron Moore Securities in shorting CSHD. Guess who was a partner at Barron Moore? The owner of ***. I am trying to confirm this. If anyone has any connections with the Federal Marshall's office or any Federal agency that mighy have arrest records, I would like to know if this is true. Can you immagine the fallout at *** and Barron Moore if it is?

Chart: Please tell me the *** does not stand for Scottrade. [Eek!]
M N 1
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Did anyone in their wildest dreams ever imagine that we would be rooting for a dude named Rufus?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks like they are trying to crash us....

only trouble is, everyone wants to buy!!!'
LMAO! ~~
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Did anyone in their wildest dreams ever imagine that we would be rooting for a dude named Rufus?

I wonder if he was kinda geeky in high school.

Redneck with copenhagen in his back pocket.. LOL
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
no not at all ... Anyways peeps i will say this one last time please dd this as much as possibe urselves and decide what u want to do but listen closely to the subpenny with rufas so you know what HE said and ask qs if uncertain but trust only urself for ur decision glta outa here for now [Wink]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
looks like they are trying to crash us....

only trouble is, everyone wants to buy!!!'
LMAO! ~~

Oh now you tell us, After we put our buys in LOL


Someone dig up a yearbook photo of rufas
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
looks like they are trying to crash us....

only trouble is, everyone wants to buy!!!'
LMAO! ~~

Yep these are my most expensive shares since before a half hour ago I had not bought one share over 0.75. So they are selling them, and I am packing them away for the long haul. HA HA!

They can have them back when my kids go to college! [Big Grin]

TB
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
chart how many good signals you see.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Listening to the interview again on Paltalk, Rufus states multiple times that they would be worth MORE than $54pps.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
If we buy anytime this week to hold past the reset, will we incur any problems?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
damn there goes 30 bucks... LOL
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Did anyone in their wildest dreams ever imagine that we would be rooting for a dude named Rufus?

And taking advice from TUT???
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Did anyone in their wildest dreams ever imagine that we would be rooting for a dude named Rufus?

And taking advice from TUT???
had to give you 5 stars for that
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
 -
Rufus Paul Harris
Class or 19xx
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
chart how many good signals you see.

"ZERO"
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
yumm
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
no doubt!

If you can buy them get em! lol ~~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm gonna call something between 2.25 and 2.30 for close...with a gap up in the morning...maybe between 2.60 and 2.70, maybe...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
 -
Rufus Paul Harris
Class or 19xx

yup just as I thought...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
i'm gonna call something between 2.25 and 2.30 for close...with a gap up in the morning...maybe between 2.60 and 2.70, maybe...

not bad crab...

from here they can "stage" a little run then take it to $2 tomorrow or the next day, but one day time will be up.

I feel good about what I own! [Smile]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Tried to buy more at bid and price shot up.... damn.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
boy are they dragging feet!

Watch, they'll pop it up now just to slam it back down and get people to sell!

Headfake ~

Let's see!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm just calling that from the last couple day's activity...i figure why change it up now?
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
VERT bid 600 at 2.43...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I have been in popular stocks before...Very Popular. NDOL, RSHN....But this is just the strangest stock ever.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I picked up a quarter of my original shares X 2.42. That way I'm in if anything happens and can wait to see when I should look for the other 3/4ths.

Not bad today at all!

Good things, bad things, as Wally said so protect yourself at all times!!!

Yea, me too Doni. I had RSHN X .0004 too. This thing is weird. Almost as bad as SLJB but at least this puppy is moving. And I no longer have to worry about SLJB, [Wink]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BULListic:
Literal translation: If speech is silver, silence is gold. The costly news of today, will be free tomorrow.

Hidden meaning: Silence will always be of more value than talk. The secrets of today will, in time, be common knowledge.

Applicability: When someone's speech is meaningless/damaging. When someone is going out of his way to find out about something.

In terms of CSHD...what the He11 is he talking about. Is he referring to everyone freaking out over the certs?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
surfer, check your pypr thread.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by BULListic:
Literal translation: If speech is silver, silence is gold. The costly news of today, will be free tomorrow.

Hidden meaning: Silence will always be of more value than talk. The secrets of today will, in time, be common knowledge.

Applicability: When someone's speech is meaningless/damaging. When someone is going out of his way to find out about something.

In terms of CSHD...what the He11 is he talking about. Is he referring to everyone freaking out over the certs?
My take...

Don't look for Rufus to go blow a horn, instead it's what's going on behind the scences that is important.... -the 10k Bomb!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by BULListic:
Literal translation: If speech is silver, silence is gold. The costly news of today, will be free tomorrow.

Hidden meaning: Silence will always be of more value than talk. The secrets of today will, in time, be common knowledge.

Applicability: When someone's speech is meaningless/damaging. When someone is going out of his way to find out about something.

In terms of CSHD...what the He11 is he talking about. Is he referring to everyone freaking out over the certs?
I think he means to keep our emotions in check as to not alert the MM's
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
When I heard our boy Rufus, talk last night all I could think about was that movie DELIVERENCE, & I could've sworn I heard a Banjo in the background!!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Press Release Source: Ecowood, LTD.
Ecowood, LTD. announces change in management and stock structure.
Monday October 03, 10:12 am ET
Lake Dallas, TX. --(PR NEWSWIRE)—Oct 03, 2006—Ecowood, LTD. a lake Dallas based company announces the addition of Michael Alexander as the Chief Executive Officer, President and Chairman of the Board. Mr. Alexander has also become the majority shareholder of Ecowood, LTD.

“I look forward to the challenges during this rapid growth process and any the future may hold for this company” says Michael Alexander.

Mr. Alexander has purchased the majority interest in the company and will leave most management in their current positions. This purchase includes Ecowoods non-profit sister company Rainforest Preservation Foundation known in Brazil as Fundamazon Fundacao De Preservacao Da Floresta Amazonica, which actually holds the license with the Brazilian Government.

“This purchase comes with unbelievable assets including but not limited to hundreds of thousands hectares of standing rain forest timber to manage, a major titanium deposit, clear title to all the logs at the bottom of the Amazon River and it’s tributaries, and carbon credits. We will utilize all resources at our disposal to begin the monumental task of rebuilding and replanting the lost Amazon Rain Forest.” Says Alexander

Mr. Alexander has received independent values on the logs from an outside source, which put current market value approx. $ 75,000,000,000.00 USD. The carbon credits current value are approx. $ 4,000,000,000,000.00 USD. The current value of the titanium is yet to be determined do to the unknown sizes of the deposit.

“We have begun negotiating with Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTCBB: CSHD) for the management of our assets to make the most of this opportunity. We would be especially interested in hearing from environmentally friendly organizations and/or advocates including but not limited to Bill Gates (MSFT), former President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore and Leonardo Di Caprio to name a few. These individuals and their organizations have like minded goals with our management for the environment.” Says Alexander

About Ecowood, LTD:
Ecowood, LTD. is a privately held Lake Dallas based for-profit company with the only known license to remove logs from the Amazon River system. In addition to this license, Ecowood, and its affiliated organizations have title to Amazon Rain Forest standing timber, a Titanium deposit and Carbon Credits.

This release should not be construed as a solicitation for funds in any manner.
Contact:
Ecowood, LTD.
507 Main Street Suite A
Lake Dallas, TX 75065
(940) 321-1075
info*fundamazon.com

Source: Ecowood, LTD.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by BULListic:
Literal translation: If speech is silver, silence is gold. The costly news of today, will be free tomorrow.

Hidden meaning: Silence will always be of more value than talk. The secrets of today will, in time, be common knowledge.

Applicability: When someone's speech is meaningless/damaging. When someone is going out of his way to find out about something.

In terms of CSHD...what the He11 is he talking about. Is he referring to everyone freaking out over the certs?
I think he means to keep our emotions in check as to not alert the MM's
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
NICE...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Great find New2stocks
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
great job new2stocks.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
anyone else find that "pr" somewhere? Is that for real?
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Excellent digging New2
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Says to contact for info*fundamazon.com

The website doesnt look too tasty for me... http://www.fundamazon.com/

Doesnt exist.??
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
The MM's really put a lid on this. I didn't expect that. So my estimate for close is way off. Third and fourth digit trading mirror trades buy and ask the same. All the tricks. They must not have enough shares left to move this down or up so easily.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
New2stocks gets POST OF THE DAY!! lol ~

WOW!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
A new JV! Yeah!
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
This is what Ben almost let slip last night!

We have begun negotiating with Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTCBB: CSHD) for the management of our assets to make the most of this opportunity. We would be especially interested in hearing from environmentally friendly organizations and/or advocates including but not limited to Bill Gates (MSFT), former President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore and Leonardo Di Caprio to name a few. These individuals and their organizations have like minded goals with our management for the environment.” Says Alexander
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
From Biz Wiz...

..
..
EcoWood Ltd.
Recovering lost trees from the Amazon River bottom EcoWood Ltd. offers a new source for beautiful hard to find woods.

http://eco-wood.com

Contact:
Richard Thorne
Manager
EcoWood Ltd
PO Box 820308
Ft Worth, TX 76182
Tel:
Email:
CONTACT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO MEMBERS OF BIZWIZ.
If you are a member, please LOGON to set Cookies for your Company Record.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Says to contact for info*fundamazon.com

The website doesnt look too tasty for me... http://www.fundamazon.com/

Doesnt exist.??

yeah what's up....is this real or not? Anyone?
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
That website resells their products it looks like..

It would make a nice addition to CSHD indeed.


Anyone find the real company site yet?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
My last purchase of the day went throught a 2.45! yeppi!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Talk about coming full circle! Great find New2!

If I remember correctly, Ecowood was the name of the company that first had the license for those logs we all fell in love with back when FHAL first came up. The word from everyone then was the Ecowood lost the contract when they got caught in a hostile takeover.

I could of course have my dead wood companies mixed up though :0....very interesting stuff.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
http://eco-wood.com/

thats it
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Hm ok. Thanks.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow...

New2 that was a SCORE!!!

You ROCK!!!
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I flipped a little today. It sounds like that we have until Friday now for the 10k so I thought it might be safe to take back a little capital from initial investment. I made some gains and just bought back in before the bell. I was holding the origianl shares I bought back in July before today. I wonder what that does to my name being on or not be on a NOBO list or it it matters one way or the other (day shares purchased).
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Mr. Alexander has received independent values on the logs from an outside source, which put current market value approx. $ 75,000,000,000.00 USD. The carbon credits current value are approx. $ 4,000,000,000,000.00 USD. The current value of the titanium is yet to be determined do to the unknown sizes of the deposit.

Are you freaking kidding me?!?!? I believe that is Trillion...with a "T". [Eek!]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
7,rue de Phalsbourg
67000 Strasbourg
Tel+33 388 512 545
help*geobois.com
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Not only that... thanks for finding that after I got my got a few of my buys in. [Smile] SCORE for us all! GLTA
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
How about all of these zeros here:
The carbon credits current value are approx. $ 4,000,000,000,000.00 USD

Do we get to put this in our assets as well [Smile] ?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
http://www.oasisfoundation.org/oasis/ecowood.asp
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
A great new, old find new2 ... I was in when all that started ... man, we dd'd dat wood to death! We knew everything about submerged logs, etc. LOL!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Remember the interview last night guys? Remember they said that they were talking with the nephew of the richest man in thr world. Look at the names listed in that PR...Bill Gates...???? Thoughts?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
Mr. Alexander has received independent values on the logs from an outside source, which put current market value approx. $ 75,000,000,000.00 USD. The carbon credits current value are approx. $ 4,000,000,000,000.00 USD. The current value of the titanium is yet to be determined do to the unknown sizes of the deposit.

Are you freaking kidding me?!?!? I believe that is Trillion...with a "T". [Eek!]

I think I just shat myself!! LMAO!!
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
WOW
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
I called the number on the PR and mike alexander was not in the "area" today, where could he be? Maybe he's having a cold one in Georgia with some of his buddies! His secretary said he'll be back in tommorrow and he'll return my call, she took my name and #...
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
did the trading and volume slow down this afternoon on the mm's shuddering when they were counting these zeros.....

$ 4,000,000,000,000.00 USD
$ 75,000,000,000.00 USD...

and Tut said wonders would be revealed..???? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Remember the interview last night guys? Remember they said that they were talking with the nephew of the richest man in thr world. Look at the names listed in that PR...Bill Gates...???? Thoughts?

Stop already!! You're KILLING ME!!! LOL!!!

saaawwweeeeet! ~~~
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
mike is aesome too, everytime I called when we were fhal and every email, he replied, great guy, thanks to him all this possible...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
http://www.oasisfoundation.org/oasis/ecowood.asp

I just spoke to the fella at the above #. He said they gave up the contract to Eco-wood not long ago. He said I need to contact Mike Alexander. Did'nt have his # on him. He was away from the desk
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
"You should see the deal Mike struck today... up I almost let the cat outta the bag..." ~ Ben Stanley (Last Night)

Nope New2 let that cat out and he is a scratch'n MM's all the way to un-Happy Hour!
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
4 Trillion...so what is the projected PPS now?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
now we are linked to this because we will help fund the project correct??
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
correctomundo surfmeister!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
That's why I'm LOOOOOOOONG. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Remember the interview last night guys? Remember they said that they were talking with the nephew of the richest man in thr world. Look at the names listed in that PR...Bill Gates...???? Thoughts?

Absolutely...Most people do not know that Bill Gates is not the richest man in the world right now. What...is Bill gonna correct them? This was my original thought, but I backed off of it for some reason when I figured out the richest man was indeed the Oracle guy. I thought there was a connection with the virtual online valuation thing they were going to put together.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
So I requested certs today...feeling ok about it. I hope Aturd is ready for daily calls about the status.
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
WOWEE ZOWEE - So much for showing emotions to the MMs [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
this is just crazy, eventually my head will explode.

Press Release Source: Ecowood, LTD.
Ecowood, LTD. announces change in management and stock structure.
Monday October 03, 10:12 am ET
Lake Dallas, TX. --(PR NEWSWIRE)—Oct 03, 2006—Ecowood, LTD. a lake Dallas based company announces the addition of Michael Alexander as the Chief Executive Officer, President and Chairman of the Board. Mr. Alexander has also become the majority shareholder of Ecowood, LTD.

“I look forward to the challenges during this rapid growth process and any the future may hold for this company” says Michael Alexander.

Mr. Alexander has purchased the majority interest in the company and will leave most management in their current positions. This purchase includes Ecowoods non-profit sister company Rainforest Preservation Foundation known in Brazil as Fundamazon Fundacao De Preservacao Da Floresta Amazonica, which actually holds the license with the Brazilian Government.

“This purchase comes with unbelievable assets including but not limited to hundreds of thousands hectares of standing rain forest timber to manage, a major titanium deposit, clear title to all the logs at the bottom of the Amazon River and it’s tributaries, and carbon credits. We will utilize all resources at our disposal to begin the monumental task of rebuilding and replanting the lost Amazon Rain Forest.” Says Alexander

Mr. Alexander has received independent values on the logs from an outside source, which put current market value approx. $ 75,000,000,000.00 USD. The carbon credits current value are approx. $ 4,000,000,000,000.00 USD. The current value of the titanium is yet to be determined do to the unknown sizes of the deposit.

“We have begun negotiating with Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTCBB: CSHD) for the management of our assets to make the most of this opportunity. We would be especially interested in hearing from environmentally friendly organizations and/or advocates including but not limited to Bill Gates (MSFT), former President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore and Leonardo Di Caprio to name a few. These individuals and their organizations have like minded goals with our management for the environment.” Says Alexander

About Ecowood, LTD:
Ecowood, LTD. is a privately held Lake Dallas based for-profit company with the only known license to remove logs from the Amazon River system. In addition to this license, Ecowood, and its affiliated organizations have title to Amazon Rain Forest standing timber, a Titanium deposit and Carbon Credits.

This release should not be construed as a solicitation for funds in any manner.
Contact:
Ecowood, LTD.
507 Main Street Suite A
Lake Dallas, TX 75065
(940) 321-1075
info*fundamazon.com

Source: Ecowood, LTD.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
So now are we gonna gap up tomorrow???? LOL

http://eco-wood.com/

THIS is not the website for them. I just called France. sounded like I woke the guy up.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
I called the number on the PR and mike alexander was not in the "area" today, where could he be? Maybe he's having a cold one in Georgia with some of his buddies! His secretary said he'll be back in tommorrow and he'll return my call, she took my name and #...

Rich...you and I think alike. I tried to call and the phone was busy (what?) maybe you were on the other line. Let us know what he says if you talk to him. Good work man!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
no worries St Mat, anything you'd like me to ask him...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
THIS BOARD ROCKS!!!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Ecowood, LTD.
507 Main Street Suite A
Lake Dallas, TX 75065
(940) 321-1075
info*fundamazon.com


Just spoke to the secratary she took my name and # for Mike alexander to call me back
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Questions for Mike alexander if and when he calls!!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I got a free ride warning letter from Scottrade [Frown]
 
Posted by kXsToCkKiD on :
 
Doni, what do you mean?
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Whoops....
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
4 Trillion...so what is the projected PPS now?

LOL Berkshire Hathoway here we come!!!!

PPS $91,000
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I got a free ride warning letter from Scottrade [Frown]

A what? Explain please...
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I got a free ride warning letter from Scottrade [Frown]

what is that???
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
Is that a real PR. The date is wrong for starters. I can't find it on PR newswire eithier. Does anyone have a link to it?
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I got a free ride warning letter from Scottrade [Frown]

If that is your first one, don't worry about it...my scottrade guy told me you have 3 opportunities before you go to jail. lol
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
No worries. I've had many, lol. Fidelity don't like me now so they took my priveleges of using unsettled money to purchase stocks. I would have been lots richer cause I tried shifting 1000 dollars for shares X 1.50 before really taking off [Frown] .

First time I only had to call in. The second time now I'm restricted for 90 days.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
no worries St Mat, anything you'd like me to ask him...

Let's put some questions together for Rich, so he can get some pre-10-k answers. Not sure how much he can tell you.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
http://www.redleaderproductions.com/mike/pvw.htm
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
I would like to know (specifically) how the evaluations were done. Was there a Pre-feasibility study done on this land / property / resource?

Is / are the raw materials ready for production? If not, how far away are they?

Are they (or will they) be considered a JV of Conversion Solutions?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Some people asked me so I will tell. A free ride is when buy a stock with unsettled money and then sell it before the settlement date. Its a no no and you can get suspended from trading for 90 days....
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I would like to know how the evaluations were done. Independent (research) company or just back of the napkin?

Was there a Pre-feasibility study done on this land / property / resource?

Is / are the raw materials ready for production? If not, how far away are they?

Are they (or will they) be considered a JV of Conversion Solutions?

Those are great Q's! I was on the same line of thinking even before you posted them!!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Some people asked me so I will tell. A free ride is when buy a stock with unsettled money and then sell it before the settlement date. Its a no no and you can get suspended from trading for 90 days....

tsk tsk tsk !
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I would like to know how the evaluations were done. Independent (research) company or just back of the napkin?

Was there a Pre-feasibility study done on this land / property / resource?

Is / are the raw materials ready for production? If not, how far away are they?

Are they (or will they) be considered a JV of Conversion Solutions?

Those are great Q's! I was on the same line of thinking even before you posted them!!
I went back and re-read the PR and answered the first question, so I edited my list.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Quick calculation ... about 4,390+ pps
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
St Mat, I gotta run for a couple hours, I'll be home around 10pm. Just PM me a list of things everyone wants asked and I'll post his answers tomorrow after he returns my call...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
St Mat, I gotta run for a couple hours, I'll be home around 10pm. Just PM me a list of things everyone wants asked and I'll post his answers tomorrow after he returns my call...

Send me the list too please.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
So this news is interesting and all, but how would any of those figures mentioned by alexander figure into CSHDs assets/pps? I'm kind of confused.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
So this news is interesting and all, but how would any of those figures mentioned by alexander figure into CSHDs assets/pps? I'm kind of confused.

CSHD will be managing the assetts.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
St Mat, I gotta run for a couple hours, I'll be home around 10pm. Just PM me a list of things everyone wants asked and I'll post his answers tomorrow after he returns my call...

I think Surf got through to them as well...we need to keep him involved also.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
So if they would just be managing the assests, it wouldnt be considered one of their own assests like the bonds for example? And if thats the case, why would it have a huge impact on the pps? Not that I would mind of course.
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
NEWS..
Tuesday, October 03 2006 4:50 PM, EST

Ecowood, LTD. Announces Change in Management and Stock Structure

PR Newswire "US Press Releases "

LAKE DALLAS, Texas, Oct. 3 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Ecowood, LTD., a Lake Dallas-based company via Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), announces the addition of Michael Alexander as the Chief Executive Officer, President and Chairman of the Board. Mr. Alexander has also become the majority shareholder of Ecowood, LTD.

"I look forward to the challenges during this rapid growth process," says Michael Alexander.

Mr. Alexander has purchased the majority interest in the company and will leave most management in their current positions. This purchase includes Ecowoods' non-profit sister company, Rainforest Preservation Foundation, known in Brazil as Fundamazon Fundacao De Preservacao Da Floresta Amazonica, which actually holds the license with the Brazilian Government.

"This purchase comes with unbelievable assets, to include, standing rainforest timber management, a major titanium deposit, clear title to all the logs at the bottom of the Amazon River and its tributaries, with carbon credits. We will utilize all resources at our disposal to begin the monumental task of rebuilding and replanting the lost Amazon Rain Forest," says Alexander.

Mr. Alexander has received independent values on the logs from an outside source, which put current market value approx. $75 billion USD. The carbon credits current value are approx. $4 trillion USD. The current value of the titanium is yet to be determined do to the unknown sizes of the deposit.

"We have begun negotiating with Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD) for the management of our assets to make the most of this opportunity. We would also like to hear from anyone else interested in joint ventures or partnerships. We would be especially interested in hearing from environmentally friendly organizations and/or advocates including but not limited to Bill Gates (MSFT), former President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore and Leonardo Di Caprio to name a few. These individuals and their organizations have like minded goals with our management for the environment," says Alexander.

About Ecowood, LTD.

Ecowood, LTD. is a privately held Lake Dallas-based for-profit company with the only known license to remove logs from the Amazon River system. In addition to this license, Ecowood, and its affiliated organizations have title to Amazon Rain Forest standing timber, a Titanium deposit and Carbon Credits.

This release should not be construed as a solicitation for funds in any manner.

SOURCE Ecowood, LTD.
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
Is that a real PR. The date is wrong for starters. I can't find it on PR newswire eithier. Does anyone have a link to it?

Can anyone else find this news release on the web.....I tried searching the PR Newswire website and could not locate.....perhaps I am not looking in the right places? [Confused]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
The "Got Wood" Pr finally shows up at Aturd.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
St Mat, I gotta run for a couple hours, I'll be home around 10pm. Just PM me a list of things everyone wants asked and I'll post his answers tomorrow after he returns my call...

Send me the list too please.
See...I was one post early on that one... [Big Grin]

Guys...I will be out of pocket from now (gotta get some work done) until around 8:30pm this evening. Daughter has swim practice. Maybe everyone should PM Surf with questions. Later rich people. [Cool]

I do live in Dallas which is about 15 miles from Lake Dallas (duh), I might need to visit Mr. Alexander.
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
The wood PR just showed up on Yahoo:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061003/cltu124.html?.v=2
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spooky:
The wood PR just showed up on Yahoo:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061003/cltu124.html?.v=2

Thank You!!! [Smile]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Cool AZ:
Quick calculation ... about 4,390+ pps

Thanks. I was tryin to cipher that.
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5 Cpr%5C2006%5C10%5C03%5C83907982.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DPR_NEWSWIRE&s ymbol=CSHD

quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
Is that a real PR. The date is wrong for starters. I can't find it on PR newswire eithier. Does anyone have a link to it?

Can anyone else find this news release on the web.....I tried searching the PR Newswire website and could not locate.....perhaps I am not looking in the right places? [Confused]

 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Anybody know what a "carbon credit" is? Please share.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Here's a question. What is a "Carbon Credit" and how is that an asset? I expect the answer when I get back...LOL. See ya.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Quick google on carbon credit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_credit
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Mentioned in the PR "Rainforest Preservation Foundation" let's get some starting points for this new/old DD Path.

quote:
The Rainforest Preservation Foundation was formed by Don Davis in 1991 with $5,000 and a commitment to stop the devastation of a land he had come to realize was critical to environmental health. With the help of friends in the US and Brazil and the support of the Governor of the state of Para, Brazil, the Foundation was born. Leading environmentalists, ecologists, forestry engineers and agricultural people banded together with Don and the Governor and created this four-point plan to minimize destruction:



· To buy and preserve pristine rainforest

· To educate Brazilians on better farming methods and how to live in the rainforest by gathering and not destroying it

· To reclaim devastated land by reforestation and rotational farming

· To reforest reclaimed lands, or lands that have been recently harvested using methods so as not to create a monoculture and to encourage the animals and birds to return.



From this simple beginning the Foundation has been successful, in less than 15 years, in placing over 8 million acres into trust and training numerous village people the proper farming and harvesting methods. It is testimony to what can be done if we all work together.

To learn more about the Rainforest Preservation Foundation and to be a part of their effort you may write to: info*rainforestpreservation.org or visit their site at: http://www.rainforestpreservation.org


http://www.saverainforest.net/rainforest_info.html
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Beat ya Tax [Big Grin]
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Anybody know what a "carbon credit" is? Please share.

Simply put, a company that pollutes can "buy" carbon credits to offset the amount of pollution or carbon they release into the air...
You obtain carbon credits through doing environmental work..remember Rufus stating the world bank can issue credits??
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Rainforest Preservation Foundation - http://www.800rainforest.org/

Rainforest Preservation Foundation, a non-profit organization, dedicated to the future and the welfare of one of earth's most vital resources. This company's roots go back to 1965 when a man named Don Davis first went to Brazil, and worked there as a missionary for fourteen and one half years.


http://www.geocities.com/carlamo1/topics4.html
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
guys this is a big one.. Hard to grasp the full meaning of this..
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
So will I need a bodyguard to escort to the safe deposit box when my certs arrive?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
More on the sister company:

http://www.guidestar.org/pqShowGsReport.do?npoId=68613&partner=justgive


RAINFOREST PRESERVATION FOUNDATION INC


P.O. Box 820308
Fort Worth, TX 76182

GENERAL INFORMATION
Who We Are
Rainforest Preservation

This organization is a 501(c)(3) Public Charity.
This organization is required to file an IRS Form 990 or 990-EZ.
Financial information in this report is derived from the organization's December 31, 2003 Form 990.
Contributions are deductible, as provided by law.
NTEE Code
C30—Natural Resource Conservation and Protection
EIN: 75-2399759
Year Founded: Information not available
Ruling Year: 1992
Fiscal Year: December 31, 2003
Assets: $6,025 (from IRS BMF on Dec 2004)
Income: $8,997 (from IRS BMF on Dec 2004)
No. of Board Members: Information not available
No. of Full-Time Employees: Information not available
No. of Part-Time Employees: Information not available
No. of Volunteers: Information not available

BOARD OF DIRECTORS
Name Title
Dr. Don Davis President

MISSION AND PROGRAMS
Mission
Rainforest Preservation

Programs
Supported ongoing pharmacological research and development of natural medicines by Brazilian doctors and pharmacologists from plants gathered in the rainforest, to increase awareness of the incalculable loss we suffer by the destruction of the rainforest.
Conducted activities designed to raise public awareness of 1) the destruction of the rainforest, 2) the cost of its loss in human, ecological and medical terms, and 3) the means of protecting the rainforest from destruction.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Sister company address: (Last year I think?)

RAINFOREST PRESERVATION FOUNDATION
6125 AIRPORT FWY STE 203
HALTOM CITY, TX 76117
817/222-1155
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
So, the big question remains...

What will tomorrow morning be like?
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
So if they would just be managing the assests, it wouldnt be considered one of their own assests like the bonds for example? And if thats the case, why would it have a huge impact on the pps? Not that I would mind of course.

You're absolutely right, the assets mentioned in this PR would not be assets of CSHD, however, the PR says that now CSHD has a new client for managing of assets. SO, I'm guessing CSHD gets pais based on the size of the assets they are handling, so it may still be significant, but calculating share price from 4 Trillion is just nonsense (considering the 4 trillion is carbon value, which means nothing in the economic world and isn't even an asset of CSHD).
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Seems like we have to ask that big question everynight.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
here is the Eco-wood web site!!! Found it the hard way! I Googled Lake Dallas and eco-wood.

{wrong lead : I erased it.}

it redirects you.
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
This is a really big new client for CSHD...good news, CSHD will now manage the assets of this company.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Uhh maybe not... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Wonder how many bashers are gonna jump on board now.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
I've taken to using the number of shares I own as the pps I intend to sell at. I rather like the equation. Give it a try.

Oh, I own more than 15, 25, or 54 shares.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I've taken to using the number of shares I own as the pps I intend to sell at. I rather like the equation. Give it a try.

Oh, I own more than 15, 25, or 54 shares.

LOL we could only wish.
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
For the last time, the assets of this company ARE NOT the assets of CSHD. CSHD is a HOLDING COMPANY...they manage the assets of other companies-they will now be managing the assets of this company as a client. They probably earn revenue based on the size of the assets they manage however...
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
LOL


what good news the today's pr ? or did i miss the 10k?


[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
"The NOBO list has disclosed 75,487,085 (Seventy Five Million Four Hundred Eighty Seven Thousand and Eighty Five) shares above the total free trading shares of 30,918,339 of CSHD. The shares are held by 15,184 (Fifteen Thousand One Hundred and Eighty Four) shareholders to include institutions.


I thought that the float was 30,918,339

Don't we have 110 mil. tradable shares.. I am confused.

The float does not just represent tradable shares correct..
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I just like the thought that CSHD will make something off of handling 75bill - 4trill in assets.
Even an 6 to 8% modest return will make big $$$.

Seems like Rufus and his team have things in order. Lets see how they play out now.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
So the fund the operations in exchange for percentage ownership in restricted shares, and the company goes public as a spin-off giving us each a part of two companies. That to me sounds like a reasonable reason to {*dance at my desk*}
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
I just like the thought that CSHD will make something off of handling 75bill - 4trill in assets.
Even an 6 to 8% modest return will make big $$$.

Seems like Rufus and his team have things in order. Lets see how they play out now.

Forget the 4 Trillion, that means nothing in terms of money the company has. As for 75 Billion, that's a crude estimation "from an outside source".
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
so, we've been listed on the berlin xchg since sept 27th?

i must have missed this info.

i assume rufus is getting us delisted.

and if we delist we run in my experience, yes?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
currently merrill wouldnt use their MM to trade this stock cuz there isnt enuff "reason" to, but in the future if there was reason they would...

therefore i dont think its a good idea to go with a full-svc account until theres a higher investment. however ML-Direct looks good.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
folkswho heard the interview with rufas did he not say the pps would go down because of him talking? cant remember? If so I think the best time to buy more will be by then before the 10k which could be either thurs close to close or friday? If it doesnt come out thursday that will probably be the best price to pick up a crap load!!!! lol [Wink]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
float is 37 mil i think
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
I just like the thought that CSHD will make something off of handling 75bill - 4trill in assets.
Even an 6 to 8% modest return will make big $$$.

Seems like Rufus and his team have things in order. Lets see how they play out now.

Forget the 4 Trillion, that means nothing in terms of money the company has. As for 75 Billion, that's a crude estimation "from an outside source".
Don't forget about the titanium...could be huge, but who knows how far they are away from producing.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i think theyre waiting for delisting from the berlin exchange to issue the 10K

and i think thats the gov't doc they are awaiting?

could be the reason they filed the extension. finding out they were listed there. thats the source of the naked shorting generally isnt it?
cant remember.. last berlin experience was a while ago.

but i distinctly remember the run.


btw, the schwab thing? my friends say "sounds like someone has a short position [Wink] )
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
even though rufas did mention meryl lnch in the interview wouldnt u think that was some give away and that may be the mm? or did someone say that already the one in our pr??
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OK here are the Brazilian Licenses...

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpaumulato.prodepa.gov.br%2F seiamlic%2FCAD_LIC_list.asp%3Fs_NUMERO_LIC%3D%26s_TIPO_LIC%3D%26s_VALIDADE_INICI O%3D%26s_VALIDADE_TERMINO%3D%26s_ATIVIDADE_EMPRESA%3D%26s_ATIVIDADE%3D%26s_CNPJ% 3D%26s_Razao_Social%3DFundamazon%2BFundacao%2BDe%2BPreservacao%2BDa%2BFloresta%2 BAmazonica%26s_CPF%3D%26s_Data_Inicio_Expira%3D%26s_Data_Inicio_Emitida%3D%26s_N ome%3D%26s_Data_Fim_Expira%3D%26s_Data_Fim_Emitida%3D%26s_Municipio%3D%26s_Licen cas_Vencidas%3D&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Neptune I was being a smartas$.

They might as well say they have 100 trazillion in assets.

No company holds assets that could pay off roughly half our national debt...that I know of.

I do like Tax's scenario...get them started and spin 'em off. That's what this whole thing is about.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I hate to say it but they all look old... hope there are some new ones. Latest 2003... [Frown]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
75 BILLION??! you have got to be kidding me.

yeah yeah i just read the PR. [Eek!]
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
I picked up all I could afford today. Great Prices - these won't last. The next PR should be pretty good - can't wait to see it.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Neptune I was being a smartas$.

They might as well say they have 100 trazillion in assets.

No company holds assets that could pay off roughly half our national debt...that I know of.

I do like Tax's scenario...get them started and spin 'em off. That's what this whole thing is about.

Yes, but they could sell the carbon credits to another country that is not in alignment with the Kyoto Protacol.

Kyoto Protocol
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The Kyoto Protocol is an amendment to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change

Kyoto Protocol
Opened for signature December 11, 1997 in Kyoto, Japan
Entered into force February 16, 2005.
Conditions for entry into force 55 parties and at least 55% CO2 1990 emissions by UNFCCC Annex I parties.
Parties 165 countries and other governmental entities (as of August 2006)
The Kyoto Protocol to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change is an amendment to the international treaty on climate change, assigning mandatory targets for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions to signatory nations

The Kyoto linking mechanisms are in place for two main reasons:

the cost of complying with Kyoto is prohibitive for many Annex 1 countries (especially those countries, such as Japan or the Netherlands for example, with highly efficient, low GHG polluting industries, and high prevailing environmental standards). Kyoto therefore allows these countries to purchase Carbon Credits instead of reducing GHG emissions domestically; and,
this is seen as a means of encouraging Non-Annex 1 developing economies to reduce GHG emissions since doing so is now economically viable because of the sale of Carbon Credits .
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
so is this one of our subs or jv's? Because the first line in the pr seems to say to me that we own them or have a significant stake in them. I'm referring to this line:

a Lake Dallas-based company via Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
note to self : investigate this angle further.

i did find plenty of michael alexander info connected with microsoft databases...

i also found the same for william tay.

all maybes in my book... that whole corbra or corba thing...


was all covered in various previous posts.
~BB


quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Remember the interview last night guys? Remember they said that they were talking with the nephew of the richest man in thr world. Look at the names listed in that PR...Bill Gates...???? Thoughts?

Absolutely...Most people do not know that Bill Gates is not the richest man in the world right now. What...is Bill gonna correct them? This was my original thought, but I backed off of it for some reason when I figured out the richest man was indeed the Oracle guy. I thought there was a connection with the virtual online valuation thing they were going to put together.

 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
just a thought. How would Mike Alexander come up with the money to buy the controlling interest in this company? Like I stated before that to me the first line in the pr seems to indicate some form of ownership from cshd. I would think they would probably be backing this.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
just a thought. How would Mike Alexander come up with the money to buy the controlling interest in this company? Like I stated before that to me the first line in the pr seems to indicate some form of ownership from cshd. I would think they would probably be backing this.

Uhhh...yes. CSHD is backing. Dividends beyotches!
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
just a thought. How would Mike Alexander come up with the money to buy the controlling interest in this company? Like I stated before that to me the first line in the pr seems to indicate some form of ownership from cshd. I would think they would probably be backing this.

Michael Alexander, as I believe, used to be the ceo of CSHD, but now is no longer the ceo, though he still has ties to the corporation. Now, he supposedly bought ownership (ie. purchased enough share in the company to become CEO). My question is, how much money did that take? I've never hear of a billionare Michael Alexander...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Ryan ~ I originally thought the same thing when I reread the first line... but then... I was wondering if this was just a PR that was released by CSHD for Eco-wood. This sentence could very well mean that they are releasing for Eco-wood. [Confused]
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
Just a couple of unrelated questions/thoughts. I remain cautiously optimistic at this time, but find a couple of things of note.

1) Didn't Rufus in an earlier Paltalk interview say that the original Amazon log deal was not as noteworthy as originally advertised by FHAL? What makes this such a big/better deal now?

2) I hate this part of the last paragraph

"We would be especially interested in hearing from environmentally friendly organizations and/or advocates including but not limited to Bill Gates (MSFT), former President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore and Leonardo Di Caprio to name a few. These individuals and their organizations have like minded goals with our management for the environment," says Alexander.

I think it's completely unnecessary, unprofessional and cheapens the PR. It just sounds like it's reaching too much. Just stick to the facts in a PR and keep the musings to a newsletter, or a side comment during an interview.

It would be like me putting out a PR ending with "I would be especially interested in hearing from beautiful actresses, including but not limited to Scarlettt Johnassen, Jessica Alba and Eva Longoria. These individuals and their hot friends have like minded goals with my desire to breathe oxygen,"
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bilgert:
Just a couple of unrelated questions/thoughts. I remain cautiously optimistic at this time, but find a couple of things of note.

1) Didn't Rufus in an earlier Paltalk interview say that the original Amazon log deal was not as noteworthy as originally advertised by FHAL? What makes this such a big/better deal now?

2) I hate this part of the last paragraph

"We would be especially interested in hearing from environmentally friendly organizations and/or advocates including but not limited to Bill Gates (MSFT), former President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore and Leonardo Di Caprio to name a few. These individuals and their organizations have like minded goals with our management for the environment," says Alexander.

I think it's completely unnecessary, unprofessional and cheapens the PR. It just sounds like it's reaching too much. Just stick to the facts in a PR and keep the musings to a newsletter, or a side comment during an interview.

It would be like me putting out a PR ending with "I would be especially interested in hearing from beautiful actresses, including but not limited to Scarlettt Johnassen, Jessica Alba and Eva Longoria. These individuals and their hot friends have like minded goals with my desire to breathe oxygen,"

HAHAHAH...I totally agree with you about the last paragraph.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I guess I've come full circle now. The logging deal was the reason I bought FHAL stock to begin with. I bought prior to FHAL's interview on the dreaded M N 1. During the interview we were supposed to get info on the logging deal that would take the PPS higher but that's when everything changed. They made excuses about them not being able to get business done because of the World Cup. I thought it was a lame excuse and almost slod the next morning but decided to give them a few days. The next thing I knew FHAL was part of a reverse merger. The rest is history. So if nothing else it is interesting the the logs popped up from the bottom of the Amazon a few days before the end.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
just a thought. How would Mike Alexander come up with the money to buy the controlling interest in this company? Like I stated before that to me the first line in the pr seems to indicate some form of ownership from cshd. I would think they would probably be backing this.

Michael Alexander, as I believe, used to be the ceo of CSHD, but now is no longer the ceo, though he still has ties to the corporation. Now, he supposedly bought ownership (ie. purchased enough share in the company to become CEO). My question is, how much money did that take? I've never hear of a billionare Michael Alexander...
M. Alexander was former FHAL CEO, CVSU reverse merged with FHAL with CVSU executives surviving. M. Alexander is largest shareholder as part of merger agreement.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
just a thought. How would Mike Alexander come up with the money to buy the controlling interest in this company? Like I stated before that to me the first line in the pr seems to indicate some form of ownership from cshd. I would think they would probably be backing this.

Michael Alexander, as I believe, used to be the ceo of CSHD, but now is no longer the ceo, though he still has ties to the corporation. Now, he supposedly bought ownership (ie. purchased enough share in the company to become CEO). My question is, how much money did that take? I've never hear of a billionare Michael Alexander...
Your DD has been pretty bad since you first posted and it hasn't gotten any better. Michael Alexander was the CEO of Fronthaul and as for the money, no one pays cash for a house much less a company but I bet he could get a bit of leverage out of those 20M shares of CSHD he owns.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I guess I've come full circle now. The logging deal was the reason I bought FHAL stock to begin with. I bought prior to FHAL's interview on the dreaded M N 1. During the interview we were supposed to get info on the logging deal that would take the PPS higher but that's when everything changed. They made excuses about them not being able to get business done because of the World Cup. I thought it was a lame excuse and almost slod the next morning but decided to give them a few days. The next thing I knew FHAL was part of a reverse merger. The rest is history. So if nothing else it is interesting the the logs popped up from the bottom of the Amazon a few days before the end.

GLTA
Wally

ha ha ~

That's just what happened here Wally ~ [Smile]
Who knew?!!

Good luck to you Wally!

Chart ~
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
Are a lot of people missing the point? Mike A. is still a MAJOR holder of CSHD so he is really helping himself out on both levels by having CSHD as his financial backing. The way is see it, at the very least he has giving CSHD a new partner/subsidiary, given them business, increased CSHD’s bottom line valuation (and thus the value of the shares he owns) and proven to the market that he didn’t just Dump his old company a take what he could leaving room for doubt in the new co for which he was a partial owner CSHD. He is instead showing confidence in CSHD and willing to use their services helping both parties.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think that this company is one of our JV's and if that is the case we will have a very large stake in the money they earn. This is a HUGE PR and all that people can worry about is the PPS tomorrow. OPEN YOUR EYES, PPS doesn't matter right now. We are going to RESET the price higher anyways. This is just more proof that the company is justified at a MUCH larger pps than $15.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
so what about the 10-K hype guys?


LMAO

[Roll Eyes] [Eek!] [Confused]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I don't know what this all means to tell the truth. Rufus told us long ago that the Amazon deal wasn't what they thought it would be so he took it off the table. Is this totally new? Or is this the same deal that Mike was working on when this all started?

If its totally new then why is the date wrong?

If this is a new contract that accomplishes what Rufus and Alexander wanted in the first place, then look out for the run!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
So they delayed the 10-K to put this future prospect in there? What was the other? They said there were two. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I have found several SEC docs that mention Eco-wood from back in 2000, the licenses go to about 2003 but I have not found anything from http://www.ibama.gov.br regarding updated licenses yet. I thin this is pretty big though. I found mention in New Zealand, and India.

http://www.secinfo.com/d11D74.5J1.htm

http://www.furniture-info.com/129.htm

don't know if this is a seperate location, or entity.

http://www.nztpc.co.nz/woodmarkLicensees.php
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Ties to Enviro-Recovery Inc. (OTCBB:EVRE), Ashland, WI from back in 2000

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2000_June_20/ai_62830142
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
http://fhalboard.com/forums/interview/cshd_81006.mp3

Link to Rufus and Ben on Sub Penny Radio last night.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Ryan ~ I originally thought the same thing when I reread the first line... but then... I was wondering if this was just a PR that was released by CSHD for Eco-wood. This sentence could very well mean that they are releasing for Eco-wood. [Confused]

Tax I'm not so sure. why would Eco-wood need cshd to release a pr. It's cheap enough to do it for themselves. It's not like having cshd release the pr gives them world wide attention, not yet at least [Big Grin] . Right now my guts telling me we own a good portion of this company. I could be wrong. It's known to happen.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Looks to me like we have our FIRST INSTITUTIONAL HOLDER!!

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=CSHD&selected=CSHD&page=holdingssu mmary
 
Posted by li on :
 
finally on the board after 3 months
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hi li [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Hmmmm... acording to Forbes Eco-wood was bought back in 2000?

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2000/0306/6506132a.html
 
Posted by li on :
 
chart I feel like I already know you, been reading posts for so long
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
another northerner, lol...imagine that...

welcome!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Looks to me like we have our FIRST INSTITUTIONAL HOLDER!!

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=CSHD&selected=CSHD&page=holdingssu mmary

Interesting it shows the share value ($1000) at $34... look at page three of the holdings.

CONVERSION SOLUTNS HLDG... COM $34 $34 New 12,000
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Looks to me like we have our FIRST INSTITUTIONAL HOLDER!!

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=CSHD&selected=CSHD&page=holdingssu mmary

Interesting it shows the share value ($1000) at $34... look at page three of the holdings.

CONVERSION SOLUTNS HLDG... COM $34 $34 New 12,000

Oh Value of the investment = $34000
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Michigan in the house....
 
Posted by Synastar1 on :
 
Someone said they couldn't find it on PRNewswire...

http://www.prnewswire.com/news/index_mail.shtml?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/10-03- 2006/0004444787&EDATE=
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
What is this? Don Davis and the sister company in trouble in Brazil? There is no date on this... that is just bizaar.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://200.242.252.70/oliber al/arquivo/noticia/atualidade/n16092002index3.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=4&ct= result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DFUNDAMAZON%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG%26pwst%3D1
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
chart I feel like I already know you, been reading posts for so long

Got some great people here Li, Enjoy!
Been in this share long?

Things are really looking up.... "again!" [Big Grin]
 
Posted by li on :
 
you know we gotta rep the MI, btw "li" is short for longinvestor [Smile] , anyone that wants to help dog and I take over the world after we get rich let me know [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
A sense of humor Li ~

That'll help in this gut busting ride!
GLTY Li ~
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
you know we gotta rep the MI, btw "li" is short for longinvestor [Smile] , anyone that wants to help dog and I take over the world after we get rich let me know [Smile]

Count me in !
 
Posted by li on :
 
So, I just listened to the radio item, that was linked I thought from last night, but didn't hear Rufus say anythign about getting certs. did I listen to the wrong one???
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
I have been in the game since FHAL * 0.087 and holding long, this just keeps getting better, I have learned & earned a bunch here, it's a great ride and I'm ready for some more.
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
If you didn't hear rufas speak it must be the wrong one, I'll try and get the right link as I was new to paltalk as of last night.
 
Posted by li on :
 
I need to hear the context it was said in so that I can stop arguing with dog
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Randy Mosley? Wasn't his name on the 144 filings?

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Looks to me like we have our FIRST INSTITUTIONAL HOLDER!!

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=CSHD&selected=CSHD&page=holdingssu mmary


 
Posted by portman on :
 
Bigger than we thought now aren't we...

I don't think this is the last. Didn't Rufus allude to two not just one?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Guys (and gals) I think you should pay more attention to that Institutional investor. That could be huge!!!

12,000 shares from PENN DAVIS MCFARLAND INC
$34,000

Has anyone heard of them????
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Randy Mosley? Wasn't his name on the 144 filings?

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Looks to me like we have our FIRST INSTITUTIONAL HOLDER!!

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=CSHD&selected=CSHD&page=holdingssu mmary


The area that shows Randy Mosely is insiders. He was from the board of directors of FHAL.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
PENN DAVIS MCFARLAND INC
Info...from Dec. 2005

http://www.secinfo.com/d11QSy.ve.htm
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So now they own Wal-Mart, Honeywell, Cisco and CSHD...LOL...we're in good company!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
So now they own Wal-Mart, Honeywell, Cisco and CSHD...LOL...we're in good company!!!!

"Bingo!"

Was wondering when someone would run with this [Big Grin]

[helping kids with homework, fun stuff ~] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by li on :
 
I haven't heard of them but I like their industry weight looks a lot like mine minus the health care, no an overly aggressive portfolio. Although I"d love to know how they lose money on XOM holdings, how long have they been around?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Hmmm I will have to look into this one. "JOHN S. MCFARLAND" I know I ran into his name some wheres before. Question is where?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK people, I don't mean to nit pick, but it seems that no one on this Board, Ihub, or HSM knows how to spell LOSE.

LOOSE- Not tight
LOSE- did not win

LOSER- one who is not a winner
LOOSER-Less tight


Got it [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
So now they own Wal-Mart, Honeywell, Cisco and CSHD...LOL...we're in good company!!!!

"Bingo!"

Was wondering when someone would run with this [Big Grin]

[helping kids with homework, fun stuff ~] [Big Grin]

Without doing a lot of research it sure seemed to me that they don't deal with OTCBB stocks. So it is interesting that they bought stock in CSHD. It seems they bought it in the 2.80 range.

Also just an observation as far as the PR regarding ECOWood, I think they hurried to get the PR out because of the slip of the tongue last night. I don't believe this was planned to be released yet.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK people, I don't mean to nit pick, but it seems that no one on this Board, Ihub, or HSM knows how to spell LOSE.

LOOSE- Not tight
LOSE- did not win

LOSER- one who is not a winner
LOOSER-Less tight

"Get'r dun!!!" [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
Got it [Big Grin]


 
Posted by li on :
 
LOSE, fixed, bite me....you will see many of those from me, lack of attention more then poor grammer thanks though
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I have to admit that I flipped at $3.05 today. It was just so predictable I had to finally join the flippers for once. Sorry Rufus. [Frown]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I wasn't picking on you dude, I just see that 40 times a day.

quote:
Originally posted by li:
LOSE, fixed, bite me....you will see many of those from me, lack of attention more then poor grammer thanks though


 
Posted by li on :
 
I tried to flip yesterday but couldn't chase it fast enough once I made up my mind... so much easier to pull initial investment once the first run takes off and then just let her sit until endgame. I'm in this one lite and late though [Frown]
 
Posted by The Phat Man on :
 
http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/ecowood-ltd-announces-change-in/n200610031 92209990016


Updated:2006-10-03 19:22:29
Ecowood, LTD. Announces Change in Management and Stock Structure
PR NEWSWIRE
LAKE DALLAS, Texas, Oct. 3 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Ecowood, LTD., a Lake Dallas-based company via Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), announces the addition of Michael Alexander as the Chief Executive Officer, President and Chairman of the Board. Mr. Alexander has also become the majority shareholder of Ecowood, LTD.

"I look forward to the challenges during this rapid growth process," says Michael Alexander.

Mr. Alexander has purchased the majority interest in the company and will leave most management in their current positions. This purchase includes Ecowoods' non-profit sister company, Rainforest Preservation Foundation, known in Brazil as Fundamazon Fundacao De Preservacao Da Floresta Amazonica, which actually holds the license with the Brazilian Government.

"This purchase comes with unbelievable assets, to include, standing rainforest timber management, a major titanium deposit, clear title to all the logs at the bottom of the Amazon River and its tributaries, with carbon credits. We will utilize all resources at our disposal to begin the monumental task of rebuilding and replanting the lost Amazon Rain Forest," says Alexander.

Mr. Alexander has received independent values on the logs from an outside source, which put current market value approx. $75 billion USD. The carbon credits current value are approx. $4 trillion USD. The current value of the titanium is yet to be determined do to the unknown sizes of the deposit.

"We have begun negotiating with Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD) for the management of our assets to make the most of this opportunity. We would also like to hear from anyone else interested in joint ventures or partnerships. We would be especially interested in hearing from environmentally friendly organizations and/or advocates including but not limited to Bill Gates (MSFT ), former President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore and Leonardo Di Caprio to name a few. These individuals and their organizations have like minded goals with our management for the environment," says Alexander.

About Ecowood, LTD.

Ecowood, LTD. is a privately held Lake Dallas-based for-profit company with the only known license to remove logs from the Amazon River system. In addition to this license, Ecowood, and its affiliated organizations have title to Amazon Rain Forest standing timber, a Titanium deposit and Carbon Credits.

This release should not be construed as a solicitation for funds in any manner.

SOURCE Ecowood, LTD.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I have to admit that I flipped at $3.05 today. It was just so predictable I had to finally join the flippers for once. Sorry Rufus. [Frown]

heck I think we all did once or twice!

I had to buy back in remember? ~ [Smile]

now....

Insti"tut"ional

HEY!!! You see what I see [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
After this I will need to be institutionalized.
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK people, I don't mean to nit pick, but it seems that no one on this Board, Ihub, or HSM knows how to spell LOSE.

LOOSE- Not tight
LOSE- did not win

LOSER- one who is not a winner
LOOSER-Less tight

Thanks man...been driving me nuts


Got it [Big Grin]


 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Don't make me go there/their/they're...
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
just a thought. How would Mike Alexander come up with the money to buy the controlling interest in this company? Like I stated before that to me the first line in the pr seems to indicate some form of ownership from cshd. I would think they would probably be backing this.

Michael Alexander, as I believe, used to be the ceo of CSHD, but now is no longer the ceo, though he still has ties to the corporation. Now, he supposedly bought ownership (ie. purchased enough share in the company to become CEO). My question is, how much money did that take? I've never hear of a billionare Michael Alexander...
Your DD has been pretty bad since you first posted and it hasn't gotten any better. Michael Alexander was the CEO of Fronthaul and as for the money, no one pays cash for a house much less a company but I bet he could get a bit of leverage out of those 20M shares of CSHD he owns.

GLTA
Wally

What's the difference? Money = Shares....Bill Gates doesn't have 50 billion in cash, it's in shares. I'm only being realistic here...the last time I saw a penny stock worth over 75 Billion was, well...never. Seeing as microsoft is worth 400 billion, I don't think some penny company is worth even 75. Not good enough DD for you? Sorry, I'm not that gullible-If you want THAT kind of DD, see posts two threads back when a bunch of people here thought the company had 4 trillion in assets....nearly half of U.S. GDP.

Note: to be a CEO, you have to hold a major portion of shares in the company...shares are usually bought with cash.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Guys & Gals, I know this sounds crazy but could this be our Tut Impersonator- it's a real long shot but read the link to see:

BILL GATES wishes to buy KING TUT's exhibit & wear his gold to board meetings????!!! What??

See what you think...


http://www.csittl.com/old/98list3.html
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys & Gals, I know this sounds crazy but could this be our Tut Impersonator- it's a real long shot but read the link to see:

BILL GATES wishes to buy KING TUT's exhibit & wear his gold to board meetings????!!! What??

See what you think...


http://www.csittl.com/old/98list3.html



READ # 8
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
[Razz] one can wish thats for sure
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
ohhh, puh-leeze...

Jenna, lets go back to bed. [Razz]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
http://fhalboard.com/forums/interview/cshd_81006.mp3

Link to Rufus and Ben on Sub Penny Radio last night.

Chart: Did you listen to it? What did you think?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
ohhh, puh-leeze...

Jenna, lets go back to bed. [Razz]

With YOU? I'm not that kinda girl!!

Just kidding, I know what you meant...

Well, some think it's Paul McCartney, Some think it's William Hung, I mean William Tay, It would be nice if it was Billy.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
i got my popcorn ready ,for the next show


LMAO


[Cool]
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Neptunetrader ... cvsu was not a penny stock ... a long, long time ago these things were dd'd ... cvsu was considered to be valued at about $32 pps and AISS valued at about $62pps ... this is not really penny stock material ... it just happens to be in pennyland ... many of us have seen this for a long time now.

The sort of typical penny stock was the old FHAL before the Amazon deal which drew the attention ... probably not the wisest thing on any of our parts to say too much about things without a good understanding of the elements ... we all have to remember, like most of us starting out and just peeping the thread, some noobs are vulnerable to what's being said ... may be conjecture ... they may take it factually ... just a thought ...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
http://fhalboard.com/forums/interview/cshd_81006.mp3

Link to Rufus and Ben on Sub Penny Radio last night.

Chart: Did you listen to it? What did you think?
No I didn't, heard it's 3 hours long... Had to help kids tonight, and trying to get to bed! [Smile]

Manage to pop in here from time to time...
What's your take St.Matt?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
[/QUOTE]Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
What's the difference? Money = Shares....Bill Gates doesn't have 50 billion in cash, it's in shares. I'm only being realistic here...the last time I saw a penny stock worth over 75 Billion was, well...never. Seeing as microsoft is worth 400 billion, I don't think some penny company is worth even 75. Not good enough DD for you? Sorry, I'm not that gullible-If you want THAT kind of DD, see posts two threads back when a bunch of people here thought the company had 4 trillion in assets....nearly half of U.S. GDP.

Note: to be a CEO, you have to hold a major portion of shares in the company...shares are usually bought with cash.
[/QUOTE]

Ecowood, LTD. Announces Change in Management and Stock Structure

LAKE DALLAS, Texas, Oct 03, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Ecowood, LTD., a Lake Dallas-based company via Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), announces the addition of Michael Alexander as the Chief Executive Officer, President and Chairman of the Board. Mr. Alexander has also become the majority shareholder of Ecowood, LTD.

Are you saying this is a lie?

Have you run a financial on Michael Alexander so that you KNOW what his financial status is?

The company Mr. Alexander became a majority share holder of is a Private Company not a Pink Sheet Company.

The money talked about are future contracts etc. So at this point in time I would say they are not worth that. But now with CSHD backing and asset management they will have the funds necessary to fulfill the contracts, or least that is the hope.

None of us know what the deal Michael Alexander made to acquire majority ownership. So we don't know what it cost him or how he financed it.

My problem with your DD is that you haven't done any. I see no links to back up your assertions. Give me anything that shows it's impossible for Michael Alexander to buy majority ownership and we will have something to discuss.

Do you actually think that Bill Gates could not put his hands on any amount of money(cash) he wants to based on his net worth?

I agree to disagree with you.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Synastar1 on :
 
Hey Wally. Is it even worth arguing with him? Peeps like Neptune just want the attention anyway. Better to just deny them entirely.

...or better yet. Add to Ignore List.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK people, I don't mean to nit pick, but it seems that no one on this Board, Ihub, or HSM knows how to spell LOSE.

LOOSE- Not tight
LOSE- did not win

LOSER- one who is not a winner
LOOSER-Less tight

Got it [Big Grin]

Oh my...

Are we wound a little too tight tonight Doniboy? Think about bunnies playing in the field of grass and flowers. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
sorry nep, gotta go with Wally on this one all the way...

-Wonder if Mr. Alexander will be looking for a shell company to take over next?... !!!!!!

I'd be all over that ~
 
Posted by Synastar1 on :
 
Chart, I watched the link in your sig. Should have watched it a week ago. It takes an hour, but it was time well spent. Great info. Thanks.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Synastar1:
Hey Wally. Is it even worth arguing with him? Peeps like Neptune just want the attention anyway. Better to just deny them entirely.

...or better yet. Add to Ignore List.

I agree. Except that there's a lot of newbies on the thread. Just trying to head it off at the pass so that people understand that DD should be done before making assertions and if links are not provided it's an opinion and not fact. Don't worry I'm done. It doesn't merit another post.

For all those joining this board. DD is king doing it for yourself is the key. If you read something here, no matter who posts it, verify it for yourself.


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Synastar1:
Chart, I watched the link in your sig. Should have watched it a week ago. It takes an hour, but it was time well spent. Great info. Thanks.

Thx dude ~

Everyone who watches says that [Smile]

I thought that it was the best thing I could "ever" contribute to this board, Glad to do it!

"Now write a letter!" [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
look at page 2 of the holdings... maybe related, maybe not...

HARRIS CORP DEL COM $346 $346 New 8,000

also new, but when u look up the SEC info it leaves off the H and says "Arris"
http://www.secinfo.com/$/SEC/Filings.asp?CUSIP=04269Q100
Filings That Reference Security Issue (CUSIP) 04269Q·10·0

any relation? or both just happen to be new?

~BB

[edit: as i dig deeper, cant find a relation but Harris is an international communications and information technology company serving government and commercial markets in more than 150 countries. in case anyone else finds a link. maybe a coinkidink Harris is an international communications and information technology company serving government and commercial markets in more than 150 countries.]


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Looks to me like we have our FIRST INSTITUTIONAL HOLDER!!

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=CSHD&selected=CSHD&page=holdingssu mmary

Interesting it shows the share value ($1000) at $34... look at page three of the holdings.

CONVERSION SOLUTNS HLDG... COM $34 $34 New 12,000


 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
http://fhalboard.com/forums/interview/cshd_81006.mp3

Link to Rufus and Ben on Sub Penny Radio last night.

Chart: Did you listen to it? What did you think?
No I didn't, heard it's 3 hours long... Had to help kids tonight, and trying to get to bed! [Smile]

Manage to pop in here from time to time...
What's your take St.Matt?

Actually...I am working on a theory that is sinister, yet genius on the part of Rufus and Mike. I want to think about it some more...maybe a good night sleep will help. I'm so pooped. Today, I actually told my boss that my baby is 7 Weeks old (I think I typed it on here last night), but she is indeed 7 MONTHS old. I have been so wrapped up in this for the last two months that I forgot how old my child is...

I will let you know what my theory is tomorrow.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
cool, night St.Matt ~

Between you and BB I know I'll have some interesting reading tomorrow ~

Good Night Board!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
Penn Davis McFarland vice pres Fred M. Penn belongs to Communities Foundation of Texas.
Big philanthropy org.


was just trying to find a link between them & rufus...
http://www.cftexas.org/advisory.htm


They have $21 mil in this energy asset company: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=ETE
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
cool, night St.Matt ~

Between you and BB I know I'll have some interesting reading tomorrow ~

Good Night Board!

Babe...you heard him...it's up to us...or Rufus. [Wink]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
[Wink] i need to get an early start to get my new broker set up in the am...

ive got 5 more pages of reading to do here to catch up.

it's all you St.Matt [Razz]
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Any guesses on what our share value should be now, yikes!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Hey great job today guys. Chart great find on our first institutional buyer. Brief rundown of major DD done today.

myself(selfless plug [Big Grin] ) and surfer found all the filed contracts within the GA court system

new2stocks first here to break the news about Mr. Alexander's new venture I'm still hoping this is a JV anybody agree.

Chart great find on our first INSTITUTIONAL buyer. great job everyone now you guys are really making me think about pulling my certs.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
did I just miss it in these past pages or was no information found on Ecowood in Lake Dallas? I went to the city's web page and found a directory of companies - but Ecowood was not listed.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
he was CEO of Peppertree, one of those vacation condo companies.
merged with http://www.equivest.com/
and appears to subsequently have become Cendant Timeshare Resort Group, Inc. (CTRG)
which changed its name to Wyndham Vacation Ownership, Inc.

not a bad end merger, nice new parent company, nice 200mil a year earnings.

http://www.equivest.com/news/dave-pontius_message.asp

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Hmmm I will have to look into this one. "JOHN S. MCFARLAND" I know I ran into his name some wheres before. Question is where?


 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
As far as the Berlin Stock Exchange issue, shouldn't there have been some type of transactions occurring? This link makes me believe that the last price/qualifier occurred on 3/10/06 - which makes no sense to me, either. Who can set me straight on what I'm seeing here?

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/index.html?LANG=en
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
As far as the Berlin Stock Exchange issue, shouldn't there have been some type of transactions occurring? This link makes me believe that the last price/qualifier occurred on 3/10/06 - which makes no sense to me, either. Who can set me straight on what I'm seeing here?

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/index.html?LANG=en

Europeans typically specify the day before the month ex: DD/MM/YY
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
.

[ October 04, 2006, 00:10: Message edited by: betting babe ]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
or this:


Enviro-Recovery enters Brazilian venture
The Business Journal of Milwaukee - June 20, 2000

Enviro-Recovery Inc., Ashland, and EcoWood Ltd., Belem, Brazil, have formed a joint venture giving Enviro-Recovery the rights to a reserve of submerged logs in the Amazon River System. Under the agreement, EcoWood will recover and process logs for Enviro-Recovery, which will finance log retrieval and milling, and will develop export markets for the wood products. Financial terms of the agreement weren't disclosed. EcoWood is affiliated with Fund Amazon, a nonprofit group dedicated to preserving the Amazon rain forest.


now if this refers to the same Eco-wood, then they were lookin for a new partner come Feb 2006 cuz ERI had a lil hostile takeover/SEC issue...


EVRE Stock Delisted
Delisting Aproved by SEC
By Jack Tull

February 17, 2006
http://www.timelesstimber.com/news/view-article.php?id=15

http://sec.gov/litigation/admin/34-53298.pdf


OH!!!
dont miss this part in the CEO's message:

If anyone is desirous of buying or selling their stock, we will attempt to put buyer and seller in contact with each other during this period of no public market.
[Big Grin]


IMO this article supports the CSHD PR.
"Fund Amazon" could be the sister company, shortened to an english term.
and so the acquisition could have been easy, if EcoWood was without a biz partner.


This purchase includes Ecowoods' non-profit sister company, Rainforest Preservation Foundation, known in Brazil as Fundamazon Fundacao De Preservacao Da Floresta Amazonica, which actually holds the license with the Brazilian Government.


Enviro-Recovery was also one of the Diversified Investments index holdings, whatever that is:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^YHOh763

A lil more background from Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2000/0306/6506132a.html


~BB

[ October 04, 2006, 00:08: Message edited by: betting babe ]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
http://www.secinfo.com/d11QSy.vb.htm

So this investment manager holds 12k shares?

Not very much for an institution with a float of 37million right?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
or this:


Enviro-Recovery enters Brazilian venture
The Business Journal of Milwaukee - June 20, 2000

Enviro-Recovery Inc., Ashland, and EcoWood Ltd., Belem, Brazil, have formed a joint venture giving Enviro-Recovery the rights to a reserve of submerged logs in the Amazon River System. Under the agreement, EcoWood will recover and process logs for Enviro-Recovery, which will finance log retrieval and milling, and will develop export markets for the wood products. Financial terms of the agreement weren't disclosed. EcoWood is affiliated with Fund Amazon, a nonprofit group dedicated to preserving the Amazon rain forest.


now if this refers to the same Eco-wood, then they were lookin for a new partner come Feb 2006 cuz ERI had a lil SEC issue...
http://sec.gov/litigation/admin/34-53298.pdf

~BB

I now recall this back from the DD during the FHAL days. So, the Ecowood you mention above is in Brazil and the one from the PR is in Lake Dallas, Texas - with the same company name? but the one in Texas doesn't appear to exist - other than a contact for a manager located in Fort Worth. So, why didn't the PR say Fort Worth or Brazil - since that's where the link takes you? Confusing - but maybe I have a simple mind.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i edited 20 times go back and read the rest above...

this info may or may not be related to the above.

the above is the parent company it appears, which was delisted, and was in Wisconsin.

www.timelesstimber.com


this info appears old and maybe not related:
Ecowood:

all i find is this listing:


EcoWood Ltd.

Recovering lost trees from the Amazon River bottom EcoWood Ltd. offers a new source for beautiful hard to find woods.

http://eco-wood.com

Contact: Richard Thorne Manager EcoWood Ltd PO Box 820308 Ft Worth, TX 76182
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
the OTC peeps at merrill were reading about CSHD in the office today and the guy said:

i see here they were listed on the berlin exchange on sept 27th?

so i had them look it up.

here's the link

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?ISIN=US21254V1008&LANG=en

clearly only trading for a few days.

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by StockterDoLittle:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
As far as the Berlin Stock Exchange issue, shouldn't there have been some type of transactions occurring? This link makes me believe that the last price/qualifier occurred on 3/10/06 - which makes no sense to me, either. Who can set me straight on what I'm seeing here?

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/index.html?LANG=en

Europeans typically specify the day before the month ex: DD/MM/YY

 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i edited 20 times go back and read the rest above...

this info may or may not be related to the above.

the above is the parent company it appears, which was delisted, and was in Wisconsin.

www.timelesstimber.com


this info appears old and maybe not related:
Ecowood:

all i find is this listing:


EcoWood Ltd.

Recovering lost trees from the Amazon River bottom EcoWood Ltd. offers a new source for beautiful hard to find woods.

http://eco-wood.com

Contact: Richard Thorne Manager EcoWood Ltd PO Box 820308 Ft Worth, TX 76182

yes, your last part about Ecowood is all I found, also. I just don't understand why the PR would say Lake Dallas if the company is not there.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
perhaps the last part i posted is old?

and perhaps the new EcoWood LTD via Conversion Solutions is now based there?

If the old company was ecowood and enviro-solutions, and enviro no longer exists, then a new company would have to have been formed.


fyi, more reading about the market/enviro solutions i found interesting...
http://www.hometownsource.com/capitol/1999/december/1223logs.html

~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
well, good nite.

the only important post imo is the first one i put on this page. the rest is just extra reading.

sorry to confuse ya.

~BB
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
the OTC peeps at merrill were reading about CSHD in the office today and the guy said:

i see here they were listed on the berlin exchange on sept 27th?

so i had them look it up.

here's the link


BB, in the interview last night Rufus found this quite funny. He said CSHD never authorized that and that and indicate they would get to the bottom of it. They have authorized no shares to be traded on that market.
http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?ISIN=US21254V1008&LANG=en

clearly only trading for a few days.

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by StockterDoLittle:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
As far as the Berlin Stock Exchange issue, shouldn't there have been some type of transactions occurring? This link makes me believe that the last price/qualifier occurred on 3/10/06 - which makes no sense to me, either. Who can set me straight on what I'm seeing here?

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/index.html?LANG=en

Europeans typically specify the day before the month ex: DD/MM/YY


 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
the OTC peeps at merrill were reading about CSHD in the office today and the guy said:

i see here they were listed on the berlin exchange on sept 27th?

so i had them look it up.

here's the link

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?ISIN=US21254V1008&LANG=en

clearly only trading for a few days.

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by StockterDoLittle:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
As far as the Berlin Stock Exchange issue, shouldn't there have been some type of transactions occurring? This link makes me believe that the last price/qualifier occurred on 3/10/06 - which makes no sense to me, either. Who can set me straight on what I'm seeing here?

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/index.html?LANG=en

Europeans typically specify the day before the month ex: DD/MM/YY

BB, in the interview last night Rufus found this quite funny. He said CSHD never authorized that and that and indicate they would get to the bottom of it. They have authorized no shares to be traded on that market.
i know thats why i brought it up earlier. i just didnt realize it had happened rite before the 10k was scheduled.

to me that would be a good reason to delay the 10k too.

and get delisted. quick.

~BB
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
the OTC peeps at merrill were reading about CSHD in the office today and the guy said:

i see here they were listed on the berlin exchange on sept 27th?

so i had them look it up.

here's the link

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?ISIN=US21254V1008&LANG=en

clearly only trading for a few days.

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by StockterDoLittle:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
As far as the Berlin Stock Exchange issue, shouldn't there have been some type of transactions occurring? This link makes me believe that the last price/qualifier occurred on 3/10/06 - which makes no sense to me, either. Who can set me straight on what I'm seeing here?

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/index.html?LANG=en

Europeans typically specify the day before the month ex: DD/MM/YY

BB, in the interview last night Rufus found this quite funny. He said CSHD never authorized that and that and indicate they would get to the bottom of it. They have authorized no shares to be traded on that market.
i know thats why i brought it up earlier. i just didnt realize it had happened rite before the 10k was scheduled.

to me that would be a good reason to delay the 10k too.

and get delisted. quick.

~BB

This probably has something to do with why they are waiting on a government form, showing the delisting of the Berlin Ex., which they never authorized. GN
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
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i still dont see anything about 7 billion anywhere...

Hey bro,

It's on the georgia county courthouse website, you have to pay to access it and it was against the law to post it publicly, so you have to go and pay to read it.

It was something RUFUS alluded to, about us not having found everything that is out there that is public knowledge on CSHD.

So it appears like 7 Billion more. Legalnoob confirmed it along with others this morning regarding another JV in the works...I believe.
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Posted by cassity on :
 
Interesting website:

http://www.chicagoclimatex.com/
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Important info from 10-02-06 interview on subpenny; from HSM:

Originally Posted by Flipperbw
Major points from Incredible, 4 hour interview with Rufus and Ben 10/2

- There are going to be many exciting things happening with CSHD very soon, especially this week, and people are going to see things that have NEVER happened before with any other company. The market will soon realize all the things they've been doing, and they have a "lot of projects" being pursued.

- This week, look for a "short elimination"

-The last piece of information for the 10K will be received on Thursday (10/5) night, and it's possible although unlikely that the 10k will be out Friday. Look for it next week.

*confusing point up for debate*
- Rufus said the 10k is not what we are waiting for...that the 10Q will contain info as to every filing up until this point, who's who ,what's what, and who's getting paid.

- Rufus claims that Simon from subpennyradio may have affiliation with Timothy Miles, the man behind our-street. Simon stutters in response, but maintains he does not.

- Rufus invites ********** to office ... rufus will answer questions and ********** will also have to answer questions.
Open invitation to such bashers.


- Rufus says merger agreement stated $15, that WILL be reset price although that is NOT their current value. THEY ARE GOING TO POST BOOK VALUE, submit to SEC, and see if they can possibly negotiate a better reset price. Rufus says numbers don't lie.
Essentially, if they are ALLOWED to release it at a higher price, they will. But as of now, it's set in stone that it's $15. Could be more if SEC allows it.

- $7.21 was definitely as of date of signing merger agreement, as in June.

- says that when he said $54 reset price, he was responding to someone on ihub, and that was the company's value at the time of posting.
*Rufus chuckles to himself*....actually, the company's worth is a LOT more than that now.

- About *** PR, says "Wasn't that just the craziest crap?"

- will bring in FBI on *** for the fake PR.

- Rufus says, "Congressional committees are watching CSHD to straighten out naked short selling.

- Says naked short selling is truly shocking and very harmful. unbelievable thing that is being done to shareholders, and if your name is not on the books of the company, you do not own real shares, BUT you have to get shares because your broker is the issuer. You're golden as long as you're holding. They will work with every single shareholder if something is not delivered by the broker.

- Says call for certificates if you really want to be sure. You have to request the certs in YOUR name, and check with the transfer agent that they are in fact held in your name.

- phone number for TA (don, who rufus says is very competent) is:
702-317-7757 Don Madallon

- if you want your name in the CSHD books, MAKE SURE they are not in street name, the way you do this is after you have shares in your account call your broker say you want them in YOUR name not street name contact TA make sure he has your name.

- "next thing you see from CSHD will be something no other company has done, and it will correct the naked short selling problem!"

***-if they don't have your name and address, they can't assign you a log-in and password, which is their new idea for the website. very innovative, get ready for this:
REAL TIME FINANCIALS!
wants to be first one ever, real time financials for CSHD!!!
each shareholder gets own log-in linked to cert numbers, sign in on cvsu.us website and see REAL TIME FINANCIALS, says check deposited will instantly be able to be seen. FREE Level 2 quotes in addition.


- Q Where did they get the shares to trade on Berlin exchange?
- A. No one in CSHD authorized that action.
they did NOT AUTHORIZE being traded there.


- he says he goes to HSM because it's free and that we evaluate the stock thoroughly and do GREAT DD
- saying if people have q's, come to hsm, we're really good people!!

- Says that we haven't found all their documents.
- courthouse in Georgia has these public documents.

- he promises us that they GRABBED THE WRONG TIGER BY THE TAIL!!!

- says no safe harbor statement needed because things he is saying are FACTS

- Everything is all real, you will see it, they don't hold things to a time frame, everyone will be informed, ultimate goal is major investment company.

- Float is 37 million.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
BB ~ you beat me to the Berlin exchange post. MT if you click on Stocks at the top of the page from your link, choose Companyname from the drop down, and type in conversion in the text box you will get the snapshot page that BB posted.

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?ISIN=US21254V1008&LANG=en

enjoy.

BB - if you read back aways I have a post with a link to a Forbes 2000 article that says Enviro bought Eco-wood. I am guessing Eco-wood's name survived, and I did find another couple of links that show Eco-wood has two addresses. One in TX and one in Brazil. The phone number in TX showed as some guys house, and then a bank location neither on Main Street so I figure the phone number has recycled a bit in the past couple of years. I am thinking that if I keep digging I am going to find another virtual office in TX.

I have found zero proof of current license in Brazil, even though I have poured through several Portuguese websites at this point. The latest license seems to have expired in 2003 and allowed for Rainforest Preservation to harvest an average of 75 logs... but I do not know the "average" time frame. Once again I posted links to these license a few pages back. They are the long Google translation URLs. [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Here is the Brazil address... ane the link where I found it.

FundAmazon, with its
corporate offices at Conj.Eoclides Figoeido, Rua "J" no 15- Belem, Para, Brazil,
tax registration # 83.340.992/001-23 and Eco-Wood, Ltd. ("Eco- Wood") with its
corporate offices at Rua Tancredo Neves 500-Breves Para, Brazil, tax
registration # 02.432.567/001-62.

http://www.secinfo.com/d11D74.5J1.7.htm#1stPage
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
YAY! Ok, i have a PC to work on while im in Germany. However, i dont have much time at all to read and im out of the office around noon EST so im still blind in the afternoon. Im happy to see talk of the log deal again but still cautious why it was played down the last couple of months and is now in the spotlight again. I am here with a few Brazilian colleagues so if there is anything that may need some translation please IM me about it.

My apologies for those of you that may get spastic emails from me while im here. Im having a rough time being away from my second family here during these particular days!

Holding strong and even considering dumping some other stocks that are stagnant to grab a few more CSHD, assuming the price is right.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by joan32 on :
 
MTPromises
As far as the Berlin Stock Exchange issue, shouldn't there have been some type of transactions occurring? This link makes me believe that the last price/qualifier occurred on 3/10/06 - which makes no sense to me, either. Who can set me straight on what I'm seeing here?


Goodmoring everybody!
Hope I can help on this. In Europe the date is displayed day/month/year, the date above is October 3.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
good morning everyone. Ihub when I last checked it was overrun by bashers. Our-street popped back up and a new one janice shell.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
ohhh, puh-leeze...

Jenna, lets go back to bed. [Razz]

With YOU? I'm not that kinda girl!!

Just kidding, I know what you meant...

Well, some think it's Paul McCartney, Some think it's William Hung, I mean William Tay, It would be nice if it was Billy.

None of the above.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I haven't been able to dig much up on this ecowood ltd. This is one of the things I found about the Rainforest Preservation foundation.

Rainforest Preservation Foundation
has placed more than 8 million acres of Brazilian Rainforest in trust. They work with the village communities to improve farming and gathering methods so that they can benefit from the Rainforest without destroying it.

at this link
http://www.amazonbioenergetics.com/rainforest-projects.htm
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I don't know if anybody posted the link to the Rainforest Preservation Foundation so here it is. sorry if it's a double.

http://www.1800rainforest.org/
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Morning Board ~

Boy I'll be glad when I can get a "normal" sleep pattern back! ha ha ~ [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey chart. How do you read this last pr. Do you think this is going to be a sub of ours or a JV. I see no reason why we would have released a pr for them, but tax maybe right in his assumption of that. I do want to say the numbers they put on the pr could take 25 years to get anywhere near those numbers not saying that's bad. I just don't want a bunch of people thinking we're worth over 4 trillion dollars.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
BB ~ you beat me to the Berlin exchange post. MT if you click on Stocks at the top of the page from your link, choose Companyname from the drop down, and type in conversion in the text box you will get the snapshot page that BB posted.

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?ISIN=US21254V1008&LANG=en

enjoy.

BB - if you read back aways I have a post with a link to a Forbes 2000 article that says Enviro bought Eco-wood. I am guessing Eco-wood's name survived, and I did find another couple of links that show Eco-wood has two addresses. One in TX and one in Brazil. The phone number in TX showed as some guys house, and then a bank location neither on Main Street so I figure the phone number has recycled a bit in the past couple of years. I am thinking that if I keep digging I am going to find another virtual office in TX.

I have found zero proof of current license in Brazil, even though I have poured through several Portuguese websites at this point. The latest license seems to have expired in 2003 and allowed for Rainforest Preservation to harvest an average of 75 logs... but I do not know the "average" time frame. Once again I posted links to these license a few pages back. They are the long Google translation URLs. [Smile]

Not 75 logs...much more than that. It was a volume measurement from what I recall last night. I will not post it since it is not in front of me...but far more than 75 logs.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
good morning everyone. Ihub when I last checked it was overrun by bashers. Our-street popped back up and a new one janice shell.

ahhhhh mxing first and 6th string. They must be bleeding bad.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hey chart. How do you read this last pr. Do you think this is going to be a sub of ours or a JV. I see no reason why we would have released a pr for them, but tax maybe right in his assumption of that. I do want to say the numbers they put on the pr could take 25 years to get anywhere near those numbers not saying that's bad. I just don't want a bunch of people thinking we're worth over 4 trillion dollars.

Hey Ryan ~
I think until more comes to light, I'll just view it as a very positive step in the right direction. With Mr. Alexander holding 20 million shares of CSHD I'm sure he'll make sure it effects our bottom line some how, -wouldn't you? [Big Grin]

I'm more curious as to how in the H*LL New2stocks pulled that PR BEFORE ANY of the news sites had it!!!

New2stocks nailed that other PR about that bond to awhile ago...
I WILL learn your secrets New2!!
"Muh Hu Ha Ha....."

Ah ha!! New2stocks "IS" Tut!! LOL ~~ jk-ing [Big Grin]

Hoping for a stress-free day today ~
Riiiiiiight...... [Smile]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I would like to know (specifically) how the evaluations were done. Was there a Pre-feasibility study done on this land / property / resource?

Is / are the raw materials ready for production? If not, how far away are they?

Are they (or will they) be considered a JV of Conversion Solutions?

Are there any more questions to add to this list before Mike calls me back today???
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
And I can't wait to find out what the heck Rufus is doing to end the Naked Shortening on CSHD!

Why?...

OMG! If he can do that why wouldn't every ligit company follow suit?!! Rufus could be paving the way to a brighter "Pennyland" for us all!

What "would have" happened to PAIM?!!!
--and basically EVERY penny any of us have ever played WITHOUT naked shorteding going on! That's like a DREAM come true!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

-That's HUGE IMO!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I would like to know (specifically) how the evaluations were done. Was there a Pre-feasibility study done on this land / property / resource?

Is / are the raw materials ready for production? If not, how far away are they?

Are they (or will they) be considered a JV of Conversion Solutions?

Are there any more questions to add to this list before Mike calls me back today???
How about: "Will CSHD holder be receiving any type of SPINOFFS from this?" -In what ways will it effect CSHD holders?...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
It's good to have very "pointed" questions... but sometimes it's good to put a more "wider" question out there and see WHERE they go with it [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
YAY! Ok, i have a PC to work on while im in Germany. However, i dont have much time at all to read and im out of the office around noon EST so im still blind in the afternoon. Im happy to see talk of the log deal again but still cautious why it was played down the last couple of months and is now in the spotlight again. I am here with a few Brazilian colleagues so if there is anything that may need some translation please IM me about it.

My apologies for those of you that may get spastic emails from me while im here. Im having a rough time being away from my second family here during these particular days!

Holding strong and even considering dumping some other stocks that are stagnant to grab a few more CSHD, assuming the price is right.

[Big Grin]

HA HA glad you found a puter. Yeah while you are there could you put some euro-bucks on that there Berlin Stock Exchange for me until we get this mess worked out. LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
good point chart!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
im out again today.

has anyone tried calling the guy at timeless timber, which seems to be the enviro folks?
http://www.timelesstimber.com/contact/

im out again today. ugh. hopefully back before the bell.

tax, i was out so much yesterday i caught up best i could. didnt see the former stuff - saw those long azzzzzz linx LOL

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Here is the Brazil address... ane the link where I found it.

FundAmazon, with its
corporate offices at Conj.Eoclides Figoeido, Rua "J" no 15- Belem, Para, Brazil,
tax registration # 83.340.992/001-23 and Eco-Wood, Ltd. ("Eco- Wood") with its
corporate offices at Rua Tancredo Neves 500-Breves Para, Brazil, tax
registration # 02.432.567/001-62.

http://www.secinfo.com/d11D74.5J1.7.htm#1stPage


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
How goes the cult today? Signing up new members by the dozens?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hey chart. How do you read this last pr. Do you think this is going to be a sub of ours or a JV. I see no reason why we would have released a pr for them, but tax maybe right in his assumption of that. I do want to say the numbers they put on the pr could take 25 years to get anywhere near those numbers not saying that's bad. I just don't want a bunch of people thinking we're worth over 4 trillion dollars.

Hey Ryan ~
I think until more comes to light, I'll just view it as a very positive step in the right direction. With Mr. Alexander holding 20 million shares of CSHD I'm sure he'll make sure it effects our bottom line some how, -wouldn't you? [Big Grin]

I'm more curious as to how in the H*LL New2stocks pulled that PR BEFORE ANY of the news sites had it!!!

New2stocks nailed that other PR about that bond to awhile ago...
I WILL learn your secrets New2!!
"Muh Hu Ha Ha....."

Ah ha!! New2stocks "IS" Tut!! LOL ~~ jk-ing [Big Grin]

Hoping for a stress-free day today ~
Riiiiiiight...... [Smile]

Chart~ I will never tell! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Morning all - looks like we talked several more pages again last night [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
How goes the cult today? Signing up new members by the dozens?

Hey Repo ~

What's the word?... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
How goes the cult today? Signing up new members by the dozens?

Hey Repo ~

What's the word?... [Big Grin]

I hear NVMG is in play today, might wanna check it out.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Thx Repo... altho I got my butt pretty heavy in this, even hoping for a run and partial flip today, had a PR come out with some big numbers again...

But I'll radar NVMG, news out or what?...
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Good morning all,
Repo NVMG was yesterday.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
2.48 x 2.50 Mornin all!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
2.49 x 2.50
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
if anything the news yesterday will help FIGHT against the MM's taking us down more.

I'd hate to be one of them right now! lol ~~
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
2.50 x 2.52
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I think a .05 spread is a bit much... manipulators. [Mad]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow, they don't want this to run!! ha ha ~

Cause they are hurting [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Yeah they jumped on it quick... I say we sick the dogs on them. Or how about another PR? LOL
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
About 6 sales out of all those buys and they drop us over .10. The amount of manipulation is incredible.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Just think RESET people,...

We HAVE already won [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Morning folks [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Just think RESET people,...

We HAVE already won [Smile]

I am sorry I used the mad icon ( [Mad] ) I am not really mad. Just wondering when they are going to cover already and let us have our "free" market back. [Cool]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
must be hard to get shares, lots of buys above ask...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
now ive heard it all... apologizing for using the mad icon

we get the board congeniality award LOL [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Just think RESET people,...

We HAVE already won [Smile]

I am sorry I used the mad icon ( [Mad] ) I am not really mad. Just wondering when they are going to cover already and let us have our "free" market back. [Cool]
Covering now, that's why it's going down on great news!

Those who have watched that video below (The BIG PICTURE) know why it won't run! LMAO ~~
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well I don't think it is a good thing, but the price gaped open double the price on the berlin exchange. LOL

Previous close 0.87, todays open 1.90...

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?CHART_TYPE=INTRADAY&TIME_SPAN= 1D&ID_NOTATION=15747611&DISPLAY=MOUNTAIN&SCALE=&SUPP_INFO=&GRID=1&MA1=&MA2=&COMP _IND=&WKN_COMP=&SHOW_VOLUME=1&IND1=&IND2=&COMP=&ID_OSI=15064773&LANG=en&debug=
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
now i need to confirm it, but as i add up the merrill fees...

.03 per share on top of the $30 trade fee? wth? that's like $600 per trade?

i guess id better dig deeper before i commit. geez this aint easy eh?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what'ya think chart taking us down to about 2.20 or there abouts? at some point today?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
now ive heard it all... apologizing for using the mad icon

we get the board congeniality award LOL [Smile]

{TWEET!!!} Illegal use of the mad icon. Against the Offense. 15 yards. Replay fist down. {TWEET!!!} [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Good morning all,
Repo NVMG was yesterday.

Oh really.. up 20% already.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
hey tax, I thought they haulted trading of this stock on the Berlin exchange, right?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well I don't think it is a good thing, but the price gaped open double the price on the berlin exchange. LOL

Previous close 0.87, todays open 1.90...

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?CHART_TYPE=INTRADAY&TIME_SPAN= 1D&ID_NOTATION=15747611&DISPLAY=MOUNTAIN&SCALE=&SUPP_INFO=&GRID=1&MA1=&MA2=&COMP _IND=&WKN_COMP=&SHOW_VOLUME=1&IND1=&IND2=&COMP=&ID_OSI=15064773&LANG=en&debug=

Well, at least THEY know a GOOD thing when they see it! lol ~
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Well I don't think it is a good thing, but the price gaped open double the price on the berlin exchange. LOL

Previous close 0.87, todays open 1.90...

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?CHART_TYPE=INTRADAY&TIME_SPAN= 1D&ID_NOTATION=15747611&DISPLAY=MOUNTAIN&SCALE=&SUPP_INFO=&GRID=1&MA1=&MA2=&COMP _IND=&WKN_COMP=&SHOW_VOLUME=1&IND1=&IND2=&COMP=&ID_OSI=15064773&LANG=en&debug=

I was just thinking... would it not be funny if they reset the price on both exchanges? HA HA!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
do they trade dollars or euros? cuss 1.90 euro is about 2.41 dollars...
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I would like to know (specifically) how the evaluations were done. Was there a Pre-feasibility study done on this land / property / resource?

Is / are the raw materials ready for production? If not, how far away are they?

Are they (or will they) be considered a JV of Conversion Solutions?

Are there any more questions to add to this list before Mike calls me back today???
Ryan: ask him if they are possibly going to be a JV for Conversion Solutions and if / when they are looking to become a publicly traded company and if so, on what exchange (hopefully Nasdaq).

Ask him how (in the world) the Carbon Credits translate to an asset with the company and if they plan on selling any of them to other Kyoto Accord member countries in order to generate cash.

Also, ask him what their plans are with the titanium deposits they control. They are not a mining company, so look for them to sell that part to someone else.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
hey tax, I thought they haulted trading of this stock on the Berlin exchange, right?

I don't think so... the price changed over night, and the time of the last qualifier is 10/4/6.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
So, do i need to drive over and slap some around at the Berlin exchange? [Smile]

Someone care to explain how it "accidently" started trading over here? With all of the other crazy things that have happened with this stock this just adds to the list i guess. I just dont understand how it could happen without CSHD being involved.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
do they trade dollars or euros?

Euro's

about .80 to our dollar, something like that...?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yep chart thats about right...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
do they trade dollars or euros? cuss 1.90 euro is about 2.41 dollars...

You are correct crab that exchange is euros.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
So, do i need to drive over and slap some around at the Berlin exchange? [Smile]

Someone care to explain how it "accidently" started trading over here? With all of the other crazy things that have happened with this stock this just adds to the list i guess. I just dont understand how it could happen without CSHD being involved.

My thoughts too Cat, very odd...
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
Thanks St Mat, I'll post his responses after he returns my call...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
So, do i need to drive over and slap some around at the Berlin exchange? [Smile]

Someone care to explain how it "accidently" started trading over here? With all of the other crazy things that have happened with this stock this just adds to the list i guess. I just dont understand how it could happen without CSHD being involved.

My thoughts too Cat, very odd...
Not odd. That's the exchange of shorties. They list stocks without permission all the time. That's why you see PR's from companies saying "We have requested that we be delisted from the exchange"
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
typically in the conversion theres a penny or two diff between the euros and dollars... so buy on one sell on the other is one way to make money.
the other way is to short it thru the other exchange. last time i was in a stock it ran crazy when it delisted.

loox like they never really got a chance to get started. if it got listed on wed, ran thrus in expectation of the 10k fri... well it makes sense that a 10k wouldnt be released.
we'd be shorted to heck over there on the news.

i wouldnt be surprised if thats one doc rufus is waiting for.


i gotta head out. have a good day y'all.

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
do they trade dollars or euros?

Euro's

about .80 to our dollar, something like that...?


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
You know on a second glance I did notice the volume today is 0.00! I don't know if it is open or not but that is encouraging.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Sooooooo, i can short some shares while im here then? [Razz]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
typically in the conversion theres a penny or two diff between the euros and dollars... so buy on one sell on the other is one way to make money.
the other way is to short it thru the other exchange. last time i was in a stock it ran crazy when it delisted.

loox like they never really got a chance to get started. if it got listed on wed, ran thrus in expectation of the 10k fri... well it makes sense that a 10k wouldnt be released.
we'd be shorted to heck over there on the news.

i wouldnt be surprised if thats one doc rufus is waiting for.


i gotta head out. have a good day y'all.

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
do they trade dollars or euros?

Euro's

about .80 to our dollar, something like that...?


Between what you and Repo just said, that makes PERFECT sense!

Rufus really is on top of things [Smile]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
And I can't wait to find out what the heck Rufus is doing to end the Naked Shortening on CSHD!

Why?...

OMG! If he can do that why wouldn't every ligit company follow suit?!! Rufus could be paving the way to a brighter "Pennyland" for us all!

What "would have" happened to PAIM?!!!
--and basically EVERY penny any of us have ever played WITHOUT naked shorteding going on! That's like a DREAM come true!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

-That's HUGE IMO!!!!

Chart: wasn't he referring to the real time / on-line financials for shreholders as to how the shorts can't bash a stock when we can get online and see how much the company is worth?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Look at the time it is there...


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
You know on a second glance I did notice the volume today is 0.00! I don't know if it is open or not but that is encouraging.


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Sooooooo, i can short some shares while im here then? [Razz]

Ha ha ~ YOU PUTZ! [Big Grin]

Enjoy your trip!
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Aturd update:

I requested certs yesterday which I was told will happily be done for the low low price of $40. No problem.

This morning my account hasn't been hit for the $40 and no updated status or change at all.

Me: Ring ring...hey how bout' an update on that request I made yesterday?

them: Oh yessir it's "in the process" don't worry.

Me: Yeah? Can I get something in writing that says it's "in the process"? I'd just like to know that "the process" has actually started, no offense.

Them: No, there isn't any written confirmation on that.

Me: Yes there is. Just tell me who I should speak with to get that in writing please.

Them: You can write an email requesting that information.

Me: No problem...I'll be calling back daily until I receive the information I seek. Thank you.

Point: If I start to get the feeling that Aturd doesn't want to "process" my request anytime soon we're going to have an issue.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
It's good to have very "pointed" questions... but sometimes it's good to put a more "wider" question out there and see WHERE they go with it [Smile]

Right...in order to find out about A, ask about B or C...do not ask about A specifically, because they have to be carefull what they tell you. Make sense?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
And I can't wait to find out what the heck Rufus is doing to end the Naked Shortening on CSHD!

Why?...

OMG! If he can do that why wouldn't every ligit company follow suit?!! Rufus could be paving the way to a brighter "Pennyland" for us all!

What "would have" happened to PAIM?!!!
--and basically EVERY penny any of us have ever played WITHOUT naked shorteding going on! That's like a DREAM come true!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

-That's HUGE IMO!!!!

Chart: wasn't he referring to the real time / on-line financials for shreholders as to how the shorts can't bash a stock when we can get online and see how much the company is worth?
Yes, but Rufus also made it clear that some kind of government document (remember his Republican buddies!) is suppose to make us bullet proof to naked shortening from then on!

What company wouldn't follow suit?!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
nice day today.... I feel all warm and fuzzy inside
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Those republicans don't like ANYONE getting their money!!! LOL
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
nvmg is jammin... 40%
-not bad Repo.

and we're at HOD too ~~~~
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
Makes sense St. Mat!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
where did that spike come from???
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Nice little run - weird time of day?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
mm's have to try something to trigger selling, nothing like a run up and sell-off most likely...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
question did anyone find out which mm our institutional buyer uses?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Man..it's like an anvil is tied to this stock.... absolute manipulation... you can see it plain as day... I'm going back to bed.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Man..it's like an anvil is tied to this stock.... absolute manipulation... you can see it plain as day... I'm going back to bed.

It's almost as if they're not even trying to hide it anymore!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
question did anyone find out which mm our institutional buyer uses?

People asked Rufus about the new MM's they had notice showing up on the L2's. He said they were there for a reason and it wasn't to sell air shares. Just what he said in interview. GLTY
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I can see how Rufus is so pissed. Imagine if the MM's destroyed your company, and now are trying to do it again.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Man..it's like an anvil is tied to this stock.... absolute manipulation... you can see it plain as day... I'm going back to bed.

It's almost as if they're not even trying to hide it anymore!
What a fake Press Release with a Retraction was not obvious enough?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I know I shouldn't be surprised Tax.... it's just been sickening these last 3 months.

Sort of like being in the middle of a bank robbery while the tellers are doing business as usual with us customers.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Sorry if I'm going back a couple of days, but are most people getting at least "some" certs? I know Doni wasn't planning on it, but was wondering what the overall consensus was. I'm tossing around 50% certs and letting the rest ride. Just wondering because I kinda want to get this wrapped up today.

Thanks all.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
It's great how they walk it down.

Must be funny as an MM getting up every day now, "Time to get up and lose millions of dollars again today."

Here's a tip... you stole the money in the first place.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Rufus did mention that something else that was big would be out this week. I have no idea what it is but should be fun. Later
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
I know I shouldn't be surprised Tax.... it's just been sickening these last 3 months.

Sort of like being in the middle of a bank robbery while the tellers are doing business as usual with us customers.

that is the best analogy I've heard yet, lol...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I just have some feeling watching this that some news is comming.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
I know I shouldn't be surprised Tax.... it's just been sickening these last 3 months.

Sort of like being in the middle of a bank robbery while the tellers are doing business as usual with us customers.

that is the best analogy I've heard yet, lol...
agreed good comparison.

But I have this feeling Rufas is getting ready to pull the alarm. [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OMG look at berlin now...

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/stocks/snapshot.html?CHART_TYPE=INTRADAY&TIME_SPAN= 1D&ID_NOTATION=15747611&DISPLAY=MOUNTAIN&SCALE=&SUPP_INFO=&GRID=1&MA1=&MA2=&COMP _IND=&WKN_COMP=&SHOW_VOLUME=1&IND1=&IND2=&COMP=&ID_OSI=15064773&LANG=en&debug=
 
Posted by AC on :
 
Looks like some good PR for yesterday, What does this mean exactly to cshd?

Also I couldn't find a forum but if anyone has a chance, do anyone have any insight on ndol.

Thanks AC
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
Vin,

For my shares I'm getting roughly 30% certs from Aturd, transferring 30% to Choicetrade and letting the rest stay in Aturd until I decide to sell and transfer the funds to Choice. So I'll be able to sell at least part of my position at any time, if that makes any sense.
 
Posted by F4i4Brian on :
 
Hello Everyone...

Love the site - thanks for all the great info!!!

FYI... ML Direct charges $29.95, then $.03 per each share over 1000 shares. Also, you can not buy stocks if that are under $1 per share.

If you have any ?s about ML Direct, let me know.

Also, I have the NASDAQ listing requirements if anyone's interested.

Go CSHD!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...is "subtle spamming" a term? [Razz]

I am kidding...didn't mean anything by this...hence the little green smilie...
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
haha...is "subtle spamming" a term? [Razz]

might be BB's friend?!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
You should do what you are comfortable with.
I am not getting any at this time. IMO it is too late to get them for before the reset, and I don't want my shares locked up during that time...after everything is said and done I will see what happens and make the decision. If you are staying for the long haul, there really is no reason not to get them...

quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Sorry if I'm going back a couple of days, but are most people getting at least "some" certs? I know Doni wasn't planning on it, but was wondering what the overall consensus was. I'm tossing around 50% certs and letting the rest ride. Just wondering because I kinda want to get this wrapped up today.

Thanks all.


 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
This is from Cattlemen at HSM ......"FYI for everyone with Scottrade. I just spoke with Matt Raye with Scottrade's National Cust. Serv. office and was told that he personally verified that I am on the list given to the transfer agent as owning shares. He stated that Scottrade has given ADP a list of all their customers holding CSHD shares. So when the TA requested a list, everyone with Scottrade should have been on the list. I plan to try and verify with ADP directly so if anyone has that number that would be a great help."
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks for the info...and welcome aboard...

quote:
Originally posted by F4i4Brian:
Hello Everyone...

Love the site - thanks for all the great info!!!

FYI... ML Direct charges $29.95, then $.03 per each share over 1000 shares. Also, you can not buy stocks if that are under $1 per share.

If you have any ?s about ML Direct, let me know.

Also, I have the NASDAQ listing requirements if anyone's interested.

Go CSHD!


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
thanks...thedoctor
I would still call the TA and see...for anyone that is wanting to know if the are...
 
Posted by F4i4Brian on :
 
Thanks for the welcome... and I'm definitely not a spammer. I've been holding CSHD for awhile now and reading this board every day religiously. You all are a great help.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
F4i4Brian
Yeah...a great help...and sometimes very much a pain in the butt! LOL...
Feel free to ask questions and share any info...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hey F4... -and thx Doc! [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I just called Ben Stanley. I did get in touch with him. I left a voice mail. I wanted to try and clear up everyone's questions about if their name is in the book. Hopefully he calls back but I'm not holding my breath
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
You should do what you are comfortable with.
I am not getting any at this time. IMO it is too late to get them for before the reset, and I don't want my shares locked up during that time...after everything is said and done I will see what happens and make the decision. If you are staying for the long haul, there really is no reason not to get them...

.

[/QB][/QUOTE]

I can't make up my fricken mind!!!!

I would like to keep a few for that day when it blows past Berkshire Hathoway!!!!

Ten of um at 100K each would be pretty nice...

I will more tyhan likely take a chance and see what happens...

I"M SO CONFUSED!!!! AHHHH!!!!!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
F4i4Brian
Yeah...a great help...and sometimes very much a pain in the butt! LOL...
Feel free to ask questions and share any info...

You pointn fingers at me 10????
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
10of13 is the board's official "people person". [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I said PAIN in the butt...not BUTT!...

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
F4i4Brian
Yeah...a great help...and sometimes very much a pain in the butt! LOL...
Feel free to ask questions and share any info...

You pointn fingers at me 10????

 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I guess that last comment to maumee might challenge this statement...

ahem...can I get anyone anything to drink?

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
10of13 is the board's official "people person". [Wink]


 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I said PAIN in the butt...not BUTT!...

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
F4i4Brian
Yeah...a great help...and sometimes very much a pain in the butt! LOL...
Feel free to ask questions and share any info...

You pointn fingers at me 10????

I got that..... Just not so sure I believe you!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I guess that last comment to maumee might challenge this statement...

ahem...can I get anyone anything to drink?

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
10of13 is the board's official "people person". [Wink]


To quote a regular poster and trusted pal........

I must respond to that by sayen......

BITE ME!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...Get your own damn drink!...
and by the way...can you check your charts and throw out asome numbers for support? PRETTY PLEASE [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
NEWS!!! ... I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching over to Gieco! {*tension relieved*} aaahh...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...Get your own damn drink!...
and by the way...can you check your charts and throw out asome numbers for support? PRETTY PLEASE [Big Grin]

O.K. gimme a minute...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
anybody out there? hello...
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
watching and waiting.......... [Cool]
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
yup... just waiting.....
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Support right now looks like its back at 2.50
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Long term support.. 1.20 1.02

resistance.... 3.20 +- a point or two

Short term suport.. 2.49 building to 2.53 EOD

Breakout tim,e from chart formation is looking to be approx 1:20 p/m
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thank you Mr. Rat...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
... well about time you do sum'in round here rat!

[Big Grin] [Big Grin]

hey....

"What the difference between a pile of MM's and a big pile of stinky sh*t?"......


"I don't know either!!" LMAO!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
The big pile of stinky sh*t will soon be in a higher tax bracket? HA HA! LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
The big pile of stinky sh*t isn't wearing shorts? [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
The big pile of stinky sh*t isn't wearing shorts? [Smile]

What if you sh*t your shorts??
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Last one...

When CSHD hits $15 a share the big pile of stinky sh*t will still be a big pile of stinky sh*t, but the pile of MM’s will be a big pile of poor white trash?
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
That was my plan - I Bought everything I could yesterday because I wanted everything settled by Friday - just in case. I'm not interested in certs myself. I feel comfortable with my shares and I want to stay liquid.

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
You should do what you are comfortable with.
I am not getting any at this time. IMO it is too late to get them for before the reset, and I don't want my shares locked up during that time...after everything is said and done I will see what happens and make the decision. If you are staying for the long haul, there really is no reason not to get them...

quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Sorry if I'm going back a couple of days, but are most people getting at least "some" certs? I know Doni wasn't planning on it, but was wondering what the overall consensus was. I'm tossing around 50% certs and letting the rest ride. Just wondering because I kinda want to get this wrapped up today.

Thanks all.



 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
They will be eatin' the big stinky pile.....poor pile!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
They will be eatin' the big stinky pile.....poor pile!!

one up'ed it! ha ha ~~~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Chart Tax and Rat...we have company and your are talking crap...
Be good boys...LOL
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
OK...no more cash left (again).. I bought another 250 at $2.50 this morning and watched it run up (yeah) [Smile] , then go down [Frown] , now back to where I bought it [Confused] .

Patiently waiting like the rest of us...until the next 5 minutes. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
This is from Iowa Cyclone, I am with Scot and Solomon Smith Barney....... .......
"Hey guys I just recieved an email back from Ben Nelson for Govenor Campaign. For those who arn't from the midwest Ben Nelson is running for Govenor in the state of Nebraska. His opponent is Pete Ricketts (One of the founders and owners of TDA).

Here is the email I got back.


Thank you for your email. We weren’t aware of this issue. Could you explain more of how this works? If I have this right, you are allowed to sell your stock in company X, but you are not allowed to repurchase stock in company X. Is that on the same day, same week, ever?

I look forward to hearing from you,


My plan of action at this point is to get Ben Nelson aware of this issue so that action can be taken. Knowing that the election for either side is very close Pete Rickett's might cut the crap and force TDA cover if he wants to avoid the bad press and win this election.

The fellow I talked with on the phone regarding this issue was very interested in the subject. I cannot provide names but if you want to call in Ben Nelson's campaign and provide them with more information then here is the number. Current TDA owners and former TDA owners give em hell!
(402) 991-0363" I hope this helps someone.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
OT~ Does anyone have any knowledge about mineral rights? pm me ...TIA!
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
They need a miricle to keep the price above $15 after the reset. I know they don't want to do a price reset to then just have the price drop like a rock. I wonder if Rufus feels comfortable with the current price and it is in line with their plan.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
This is from Iowa Cyclone, I am with Scot and Solomon Smith Barney....... .......
"Hey guys I just recieved an email back from Ben Nelson for Govenor Campaign. For those who arn't from the midwest Ben Nelson is running for Govenor in the state of Nebraska. His opponent is Pete Ricketts (One of the founders and owners of TDA).

Here is the email I got back.


Thank you for your email. We weren’t aware of this issue. Could you explain more of how this works? If I have this right, you are allowed to sell your stock in company X, but you are not allowed to repurchase stock in company X. Is that on the same day, same week, ever?

I look forward to hearing from you,


My plan of action at this point is to get Ben Nelson aware of this issue so that action can be taken. Knowing that the election for either side is very close Pete Rickett's might cut the crap and force TDA cover if he wants to avoid the bad press and win this election.

The fellow I talked with on the phone regarding this issue was very interested in the subject. I cannot provide names but if you want to call in Ben Nelson's campaign and provide them with more information then here is the number. Current TDA owners and former TDA owners give em hell!
(402) 991-0363" I hope this helps someone.

Rufus' TDA PR and my "BIG PICTURE" link should be alllllll he needs! [Big Grin]

nice find Doc ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JHenry:
They need a miricle to keep the price above $15 after the reset. I know they don't want to do a price reset to then just have the price drop like a rock. I wonder if Rufus feels comfortable with the current price and it is in line with their plan.

Agreed!!! Me thinks that they will let this build on its own by feeding the market with lots of PR...

That will alow an easier transition from the shorty term investors and longs...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JHenry:
They need a miricle to keep the price above $15 after the reset. I know they don't want to do a price reset to then just have the price drop like a rock. I wonder if Rufus feels comfortable with the current price and it is in line with their plan.

The institutional investors are supposed to set buys at $15 according to Rufus, he PR'd those banks, big international one's!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Everything considered....

Even if a selloff did drop it, the stock IS worth much more... So "if" Rufus can indeed keep the naked selling out with that Government document, then the market WILL adjust this up to where it should be over time.

MO ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
so who so far has requested their certs. I'm having a real problem seeing a reason why I would really need them. I don't think it would be that hard to find out who your shareholders are. As of right now I don't believe I'll be getting mine.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
is everybody out to lunch?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
[Big Grin]
As far as certs...

I'm going to get some, maybe not all as I can use some $$$, as far as why? Besides the HUGE naked short problem, this is what Rufus said:

- Says call for certificates if you really want to be sure. You have to request the certs in YOUR name, and check with the transfer agent that they are in fact held in your name.

- phone number for TA (don, who rufus says is very competent) is:
702-317-7757 Don Madallon

- if you want your name in the CSHD books, MAKE SURE they are not in street name, the way you do this is after you have shares in your account call your broker say you want them in YOUR name not street name contact TA make sure he has your name.

- "next thing you see from CSHD will be something no other company has done, and it will correct the naked short selling problem!"

***-if they don't have your name and address, they can't assign you a log-in and password, which is their new idea for the website. very innovative, get ready for this:
REAL TIME FINANCIALS!
wants to be first one ever, real time financials for CSHD!!!
each shareholder gets own log-in linked to cert numbers, sign in on cvsu.us website and see REAL TIME FINANCIALS, says check deposited will instantly be able to be seen. FREE Level 2 quotes in addition.

If you're going to flip out right away, don't get certs... IMO ~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I am leaning that way to Ryan...BUT
I have a little concern for the comments that Rufus is saying about this big plan or what ever for this week..."nothing we've seen before"...that one comment has me wondering what is going on...AND...it is also too late for me to get my certs for when, what ever that is, happens...
Not sure that even if I stay long will I get mine...we will see...I have gotten far more than 2000% of my original investment back from this...
(kinda hard to figure the flips and all)...so I am very happy with the way this has played for me...
To be honest...I really just want it over...so that i can put this away as an actual investment...or move on to other plays...time is getting closer... [Wink]


quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
so who so far has requested their certs. I'm having a real problem seeing a reason why I would really need them. I don't think it would be that hard to find out who your shareholders are. As of right now I don't believe I'll be getting mine.


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LMAO...that is such a loaded question for this board...


quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
is everybody out to lunch?


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
no it was a literal question not a figurative one, but now that you mention it I think a few of us could very well be out to lunch myself included. The thing with the certs to me is it wouldn't be to hard for the company to find out how their shareholders are. I'm going to try and call Ben Stanley and the ta again. Does anyone have ben's cell number.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey rat didn't you call a breakout time of about 1:20? Let's see what happens.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Ryan he didn't say what TIME ZONE. he he

12:20 here [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
man is this like the trading was a few weeks ago. volume seems like it's drying up.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Don't know if anyone has already posted this but it will explain the market for carbon credits and why it is profitable with the latest news.

Carbon emissions trading

Carbon emissions trading involves the trading of permits to emit carbon dioxide (and other greenhouse gases, calculated in tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent, tCO2e). It is one of the ways countries can meet their obligations under the Kyoto Protocol to reduce carbon emissions and thereby mitigate global warming.

107 million metric tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent (tCO2e) have been exchanged through projects in 2004, a 38% increase relative to 2003 (78 mtCO2e).[1]

The world's only mandatory carbon trading program is the European Union Emissions Trading Scheme (or EUETS). Created in conjunction with the Kyoto Protocol, a 1997 international treaty that took effect in 2005, it caps the amount of carbon dioxide that can be emitted from large installations, such as power plants and factories, in the EU's 25 member countries. (AP)

Operation
A country (or group of countries) caps its carbon emissions at a certain level (this is known as cap and trade) and then issues permits to firms and industries that grant the firm the right to emit a stated amount of carbon dioxide over a time period. Firms are then free to trade these credits in a free market. Firms whose emissions exceed the amount of credits they possess will be heavily penalised. The idea behind carbon trading is that firms that can reduce their emissions at a low cost will do so and then sell their credits on to firms that are unable to easily reduce emissions. A shortage of credits will drive up the price of credits and make it more profitable for firms to engage in carbon reduction. In this way the desired carbon reductions are met at the lowest cost possible to society.

Business opinion
With the creation of a market for trading carbon dioxide emissions within the Kyoto Protocol, it is likely that London financial markets will be the centre for this potentially highly lucrative business; the New York and Chicago stock markets would like a share (which is unlikely as long as the US rejects Kyoto).[2] The European Union's European Union Greenhouse Gas Emission Trading Scheme (EU ETS) began operations on 1 January 2005.

23 multinational corporations have come together in the G8 Climate Change Roundtable, a business group formed at the January 2005 World Economic Forum. The group includes Ford, Toyota, British Airways and BP. On 9 June 2005 the Group published a statement stating that there was a need to act on climate change and stressing the importance of market-based solutions. It called on governments to establish "clear, transparent, and consistent price signals" through "creation of a long-term policy framework" that would include all major producers of greenhouse gases.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Leave it to government's to SELL pollution... Unreal ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey chart about the certs. I was just thinking about this. If my shares are good with TDA everything shows that I have valid settled shares. The TA has ameritrade's name on the book and ameritrade has my name or account as the shareholder why wouldn't rufus and co. be able to get to me what ever they needed rather easily. I imagine this happens all the time with other companies having to get in touch with shareholders to send out proxy statements and such other things. I just don't think it should be that big a deal for them. Do you?
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Ryan, thats the way its worked for me in the past with Aturd. I was worried about it but not now.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Repo how much have ya made with NVMG? or are ya shorting? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I didn't buy it. I just said watch it.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Oh ok.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hey chart about the certs. I was just thinking about this. If my shares are good with TDA everything shows that I have valid settled shares. The TA has ameritrade's name on the book and ameritrade has my name or account as the shareholder why wouldn't rufus and co. be able to get to me what ever they needed rather easily. I imagine this happens all the time with other companies having to get in touch with shareholders to send out proxy statements and such other things. I just don't think it should be that big a deal for them. Do you?

Ryan, you are missing the point. if TDA is telling the TA they have 19.9 million shares, and the TA is telling TDA that they have 3.3 million shares. Then there is going to be a problem when TDA goes to sell anything over 3.3 million shares. There are links on the previous thread that detail a situation where TDA stopped trading on a stock, and gave customers an amount of time before they liquidated their holdings at cost not value. Protection is protection... some people do not want to have any problems proving ownership of their shares, so they are getting some or all certs. This way the brokerage and their problems are removed and you are talking directly to the TA in regards to your shares of the comapany.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Now I'm worried again. Maybe I will call and get some half of the certs.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I can't wait to get off the OTC. This is a freaking joke!! Huge news and we are RED. UNREAL! I can't wait to see them screw all the crooks in this deal! [Mad]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
From HSM:

tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 182 Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo2003
heres what I need clarification on. Stocks normally trade above BV(usually 2x or more than BV) correct? And assuming that CSHD has full ownership of these bonds, then the BV should be much higher like 5x the $15 reset. So why are we still having a $15 reset?! Not complaining. Just doesnt make sense. I just thought we could eliminate market manipulation by destroying them with a fair value reset price.


This from my previous posts may explain your question:

There could also be good reasons to begin the price reset at a not too "unrealistically" high price. Technical reasons which would make it easier to get to NASDAQ without too may questions and easier acceptance by regulatory bodies of an "acceptable" price reset. Easier acceptance for institututional buyers to step in and that in turn would continue to drive up share prices farther and continue to support the upward movement. This in turn would also force shorts to continue to push prices higher as they begin to cover because of the continued climb. It would technically be very possible to see the pps even climb to $50 or higher even in the first few hours of trading. The continued climb based on the valuation of the company and continued growth could see a sustained climb over days, weeks and longer.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
It is still amazing that Aturd and others can get away with that.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I keep hearing people say that Rufus said in one of the interviews that the log deal was a dead issue. I've listened to EVERY interview and he NEVER said that. He said they weren't sure if it was worth pursuing at the time. They may have received info. that made them change their mind.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Getting the certificates is not a fun thing. Brokerages make it difficult on purpose because they can keep your shares in a pool that they use to borrow against. ETrade web site told me today it will be 4-6 weeks for delivery, and once you have them, you have to deposit them back into your account if you want to trade them. Unless you are holding a considerable amount of time. Which is not done very often on the OTCBB since the securities are most often very volitile. I have certs in Disney, Coca-Cola, and a few others which suit me just fine. I do not trade them very often and it allows me added benefits with the company. (Especially Disney Talk about V.I.P. service when you go to one of their resorts.)

Anyway, make your own decision. It drastically slows down your ability to move quickly in the market, but if you are truely long this does not make much of a difference.

FYI I am getting 80% of mine in certs, I decided a while ago that this amount was sufficient.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
From HSM:

tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 182 I don't know if anyone has already posted this but it will explain the market for carbon credits and why it is profitable with the latest news.

Carbon emissions trading

Carbon emissions trading involves the trading of permits to emit carbon dioxide (and other greenhouse gases, calculated in tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent, tCO2e). It is one of the ways countries can meet their obligations under the Kyoto Protocol to reduce carbon emissions and thereby mitigate global warming.

107 million metric tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent (tCO2e) have been exchanged through projects in 2004, a 38% increase relative to 2003 (78 mtCO2e).[1]

The world's only mandatory carbon trading program is the European Union Emissions Trading Scheme (or EUETS). Created in conjunction with the Kyoto Protocol, a 1997 international treaty that took effect in 2005, it caps the amount of carbon dioxide that can be emitted from large installations, such as power plants and factories, in the EU's 25 member countries. (AP)

Operation
A country (or group of countries) caps its carbon emissions at a certain level (this is known as cap and trade) and then issues permits to firms and industries that grant the firm the right to emit a stated amount of carbon dioxide over a time period. Firms are then free to trade these credits in a free market. Firms whose emissions exceed the amount of credits they possess will be heavily penalised. The idea behind carbon trading is that firms that can reduce their emissions at a low cost will do so and then sell their credits on to firms that are unable to easily reduce emissions. A shortage of credits will drive up the price of credits and make it more profitable for firms to engage in carbon reduction. In this way the desired carbon reductions are met at the lowest cost possible to society.

Business opinion
With the creation of a market for trading carbon dioxide emissions within the Kyoto Protocol, it is likely that London financial markets will be the centre for this potentially highly lucrative business; the New York and Chicago stock markets would like a share (which is unlikely as long as the US rejects Kyoto).[2] The European Union's European Union Greenhouse Gas Emission Trading Scheme (EU ETS) began operations on 1 January 2005.

23 multinational corporations have come together in the G8 Climate Change Roundtable, a business group formed at the January 2005 World Economic Forum. The group includes Ford, Toyota, British Airways and BP. On 9 June 2005 the Group published a statement stating that there was a need to act on climate change and stressing the importance of market-based solutions. It called on governments to establish "clear, transparent, and consistent price signals" through "creation of a long-term policy framework" that would include all major producers of greenhouse gases.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I agree we should be up and yesterday's new was great - however I think the reason we aren't up it that it says...

"We have begun negotiating with Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD) for the management of our assets to make the most of this opportunity.

I think "begun negotiating" is NOT solid enough news to see much of a pps incrase due to all the other "stuff" going on with this stock. Just my opinion.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I agree we should be up and yesterday's new was great - however I think the reason we aren't up it that it says...

"We have begun negotiating with Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD) for the management of our assets to make the most of this opportunity.

I think "begun negotiating" is NOT solid enough news to see much of a pps incrase due to all the other "stuff" going on with this stock. Just my opinion.

Well since the ex CEO of FHAL is the new CEO of Ecowood, and still has a very large position in CSHD, I think it is pretty obvious that it's a GO! JMO [Big Grin]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I keep hearing people say that Rufus said in one of the interviews that the log deal was a dead issue. I've listened to EVERY interview and he NEVER said that. He said they weren't sure if it was worth pursuing at the time. They may have received info. that made them change their mind.

cass if you look at one of my earlier posts when this was still fhal... so, the first thread i believe... after i got off the phone with rufas he stated they weren't dropping it, they were still pursuing, just taking a different avenue. now when that PR was released and i read it. i actually laughed out loud. it was ironic that i heard him say that and then come to find out that mike just flat out bought it:D hilarious IMO
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Ryan, I hear you...

But "Big Money's" money is on the line here, what's that saying?... "What can go wrong will go wrong..."

All I know is in this all Rufus has been a straight shooter, if he said something he lived up to it or we got a PR or a visit on a message board.

We KNOW ther're air shares out there, NOBO/SHO list. Tons of people have these, maybe even you and me! When the hammer falls who will end up with them? It would be like standing in the lunch line, you HAVE a lunch ticket, but by the time you get to the food they are out of plates. Then what? Law suits? SOMEONE will have to pay these people their money. Who will that be???? How will they decide who gets them? How long will that take?

If you're going to just flip out after reset I would think you'll be ok.

This company isn't going back to pennyland, the only way that could happen would be by Naked Shortening it to death, and Rufus is on top of that already with that Gov docum he's waiting for.

"Something the market has never seen before"

Heck, I've ALREADY seen that!!! LOL ~
So I believe Him. MO ~

If you want to flip out, you may be ok, if you want a longer haul, then get certs, or maybe a 50/50 thing.

It really is a personal choice, there is no one right answer, "but" there IS a reasonable cencern here.

The simple math as I see it is...
With some penny players even going LONG long, and institutional investors going long and not that many shares out there, combined with the fact that Rufus is doing something so his company won't be shorted against tells me it won't be long at all before this thing does adjust itself to a very healthy level of trading.

There are PLENTY of people out there who would buy this at $15 a share! Did you know this morning that BRK/A opened on a GAP UP?!!!
It's trading at $97,740.00 per share!!! There were people who couldn't wait to buy in today, so the "$15 is too expensive" debate doesn't hold water with me!!!

If there is ""VALUE"" people will buy it! IMO ~

Now maybe $20,000.00 a share is dreaming or maybe in 10 years Rufus will do it. BUT I think ANYONE could see this thing trading at $100 in the near future without it getting naked shorted, and institutional investors grabbing shares, and with investors KNOWING what they have and a low float I think means $$$ in the long run. Rufus doesn't sell yo-yo's, he does bonds, BILLION dollar bonds!

IMO, buyers of this stock AFTER the reset, will HOLD and the price will climb. So for the reason of going longer then reset I would get certs, the only reason for NOT getting them is if you are going to flip out after reset, I think you'll be ok so far from what I've seen and read if you looking to sell right away.

Something to think about, this isn't a Penny stock IMO.

Just watch your butt, cause Big Money don't give a damn about you... Sad but true ~

GLTA...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
So those of you who are getting certs...where are you going to keep them? I was looking into getting 80% or so of mine and put them in our safe deposit box. I was worried about insurance on them though and found that most banks carry little to no insurance on safe deposit box contents. The only thing I could find was to add a policy to your homeowners, but it seemed like it would be mighty expensive if you insured the certs for what I'm hoping they will be worth.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Banking/FinancialPrivacy/P41893.asp
 
Posted by trade2win on :
 
Guys any idea if this means that we have institution(s) interested in cshd

h t t p://www.n a s d a q.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=CSHD&selected=CSHD&page=holdingssummary
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
so who so far has requested their certs. I'm having a real problem seeing a reason why I would really need them. I don't think it would be that hard to find out who your shareholders are. As of right now I don't believe I'll be getting mine.

I've been out for a while and I'm trying to catch up. I think if you beleive in the company you should at least put some in certs. I did just to stay safe. I also put 80% of my shares into a stock certificate as some others have posted. JMO
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
NEWS!!! ... I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching over to Gieco! {*tension relieved*} aaahh...

Me too...BTW, I think the little green chameleon is "Tut".
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
NEWS!!! ... I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching over to Gieco! {*tension relieved*} aaahh...

Me too...BTW, I think the little green chameleon is "Tut".
Gecko=Geico
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
FWIW.....Chart talking about BRK/A....if this is Brekshire Hathaway (Warren Buffets holding company)...I recall a WSJ article and interview with W. Buffet and his family members back in the 1990's (I think)....his comments as to the share price and it's high amount then(I think in the nine thousand dollar range)...it is because Buffet wanted the share price to reflect the actual growth of each share's value over time and therefore the company's BOD has never intended to split the common shares ...because they (BOD...probably primarily Buffet himself) felt that spliting the shares would hide the actual growth of the share's monetary value............hope I have recalled correctly..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by trade2win:
Guys any idea if this means that we have institution(s) interested in cshd

h t t p://www.n a s d a q.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=CSHD&selected=CSHD&page=holdingssummary

YES Trade2!!
HUGE international Banks!

[OLD PR PEOPLE]

Conversion Solutions Announce the Completion of the Banking Platform for Our Global, Sovereign and Institutional Investors

KENNESAW, Ga., Sept 27, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation updated shareholders.
The corporation has obtained contracts from the following banks Deutche Bank, ABN Amro Bank, Dresdner Bank and Kommerce Bank. The mentioned banks will be the foundation for our project funding platform.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I keep hearing people say that Rufus said in one of the interviews that the log deal was a dead issue. I've listened to EVERY interview and he NEVER said that. He said they weren't sure if it was worth pursuing at the time. They may have received info. that made them change their mind.

I remember him saying that it wasn't what they thought it was but never that it was completely dead just that they would look at it in the future. That's my recollection of it. Don't remember which interview or Paltalk it was.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Boy....Scottrade's live streamer is all messed up...it is not showing numbers correctly on CSHD (and othe symbols too).....like LOD has been 2.44 and now it is 2.46 and the volume number is in only hundreds of thousand's now......is any one else using Scottrade seeing the same......
.
.
What is the HOD, LOD and the volume for the day?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Boy....Scottrade's live streamer is all messed up...it is not showing numbers correctly on CSHD (and othe symbols too).....like LOD has been 2.44 and now it is 2.46 and the volume number is in only hundreds of thousand's now......is any one else using Scottrade seeing the same......
.
.
What is the HOD, LOD and the volume for the day?

no kidding... Just noticed that ~ wth?...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Etrade indicates...

High 2.76
Low 2.43
Vol 1,755,000
 
Posted by 10-Penny on :
 
Scott has 2.71---2.46 and 962,646 volume
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
- phone number for TA (don, who rufus says is very competent) is:
702-317-7757 Don Madallon

I just got the phone with a rep at this number. She said they have no access to the NOBO list or who owns shares in CSHD. She said I would get this info from my broker (chasing my tail) Has anyone else called to check on this? If so, any luck?
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
great post Chart!
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Answered my own question by looking at OTSBB website.....should not have been so impatient..
for others asking same question....
HOD 2.76
LOD 2.43
Volume 1.73 million
....15 minutes delayed
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lauralai:
great post Chart!

[Blush...] thx [Big Grin]
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Thanks Vin [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Etrade indicates...

High 2.76
Low 2.43
Vol 1,755,000


 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
I talked with Tracy (sp?) at Integrity Stock Transfer around noon and got basically the same response...she also said I could request certificates thru my broker...so on and so on...am attempting to talk with ADP to see what I can verify from their record of shareholders that the NOBO list was supposed to be based on...

quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
- phone number for TA (don, who rufus says is very competent) is:
702-317-7757 Don Madallon

I just got the phone with a rep at this number. She said they have no access to the NOBO list or who owns shares in CSHD. She said I would get this info from my broker (chasing my tail) Has anyone else called to check on this? If so, any luck?


 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Don't know if anyone has already posted this but it will explain the market for carbon credits and why it is profitable with the latest news.

I beat ya to it [Razz] check out page 39 of this thread a little more than half way down. This is not something to discount...could be big. This is one of the questions I wanted Ryan to ask Mr. Alexander today.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
This "Perfect Storm" that Rufus has talked about and Tut has mentioned, is it this?......

Rufus goes for the reset at $15, Rufus gets his Govenrment document that gives his stock immunity from Naked Shortening. CSHD resets at $15 and shorts MUST, I repeat "MUST" now cover because of the Government document, Institutional investors are grabbing all the, -what they see as CHEAP Share's they can... (because the 10k is AWESOME!!)

This causes a huge SQUEEZE like "nothing the market has ever seen." [Big Grin]

Read what Tut wrote again:

There could also be good reasons to begin the price reset at a not too "unrealistically" high price. Technical reasons which would make it easier to get to NASDAQ without too may questions and easier acceptance by regulatory bodies of an "acceptable" price reset. Easier acceptance for institututional buyers to step in and that in turn would continue to drive up share prices farther and continue to support the upward movement. This in turn would also force shorts to continue to push prices higher as they begin to cover because of the continued climb. It would technically be very possible to see the pps even climb to $50 or higher even in the first few hours of trading. The continued climb based on the valuation of the company and continued growth could see a sustained climb over days, weeks and longer.
---------------
Still think there's going to be a selloff that will DROP the price???...

One thing is for sure, ONE day those naked shorters will have to cover! They are NOT doing it now that is for sure!

So it seems to fit why Rufus held off on the 10k and reset so he could get this "Government document" so thay CANNOT do it anymore.

I THINK Rufus is going to try to do something "at his new web site."

That's right...
Why the certs? Why the user log in?
Why the free level two's?
Why the REAL TIME Financials?!!!!

I think somehow a DTCC type person will run the shares somehow through his web site and that is HOW Rufus will know that NO Naked Shorts are being dumped into the market...

Remember Rufus is "friends" with the government!!
So he gets a "permit" to do this... "???"

Rufus is already looking at WHERE and HOW shares enter the market place, hence the Berlin Exchange!

That's my "GUESS."
And... I think the BIG money is going to be made on the other side of the reset.

FWIW ~
All just a guess here folks [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Don't know if anyone has already posted this but it will explain the market for carbon credits and why it is profitable with the latest news.

I beat ya to it [Razz] check out page 39 of this thread a little more than half way down. This is not something to discount...could be big. This is one of the questions I wanted Ryan to ask Mr. Alexander today.
Darn... You're good St.Matt! ha ha ~~
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
This "Perfect Storm" that Rufus has talked about and Tut has mentioned, is it this?......

Rufus goes for the reset at $15, Rufus gets his Govenrment document that gives his stock immunity from Naked Shortening. CSHD resets at $15 and shorts MUST, I repeat "MUST" now cover because of the Government document, Institutional investors are grabbing all the, -what they see as CHEAP Share's they can... (because the 10k is AWESOME!!)

This causes a huge SQUEEZE like "nothing the market has ever seen." [Big Grin]

Read what Tut wrote again:

There could also be good reasons to begin the price reset at a not too "unrealistically" high price. Technical reasons which would make it easier to get to NASDAQ without too may questions and easier acceptance by regulatory bodies of an "acceptable" price reset. Easier acceptance for institututional buyers to step in and that in turn would continue to drive up share prices farther and continue to support the upward movement. This in turn would also force shorts to continue to push prices higher as they begin to cover because of the continued climb. It would technically be very possible to see the pps even climb to $50 or higher even in the first few hours of trading. The continued climb based on the valuation of the company and continued growth could see a sustained climb over days, weeks and longer.
---------------
Still think there's going to be a selloff that will DROP the price???...

One thing is for sure, ONE day those naked shorters will have to cover! They are NOT doing it now that is for sure!

So it seems to fit why Rufus held off on the 10k and reset so he could get this "Government document" so thay CANNOT do it anymore.

I THINK Rufus is going to try to do something "at his new web site."

That's right...
Why the certs? Why the user log in?
Why the free level two's?
Why the REAL TIME Financials?!!!!

I think somehow a DTCC type person will run the shares somehow through his web site and that is HOW Rufus will know that NO Naked Shorts are being dumped into the market...

Remember Rufus is "friends" with the government!!
So he gets a "permit" to do this... "???"

Rufus is already looking at WHERE and HOW shares enter the market place, hence the Berlin Exchange!

That's my "GUESS."
And... I think the BIG money is going to be made on the other side of the reset.

FWIW ~
All just a guess here folks [Smile]

Couldn't agree more Chart. I just don't want to miss the "storm" because I'm waiting for my certs. Are you gonna get yours?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
If the naked shorters have to cover, then all of our shares should be ok. I was thinking that if you're long this stock, then the shorts and "air shares" should be cleaned up before you go to sell (1+ years from now).

I'm still way undecided on certs. I just can't see how you can get screwed, but new things are happening.

Who all has shares in their IRA? There's no good way to get certs on that...so what to do???
 
Posted by Standard1 on :
 
I had posted before that I have an account at TDA but am from the Waterhouse side (they merged but are still separate entities). I had been able to buy online even after Ameritrade had shut down buying.

Well, I just tried to buy and the Waterhouse side is now cut off also. More BS about CSHD on their secret special list of securities that you can sell but not purchase.

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
and talking with an mm? ~LOL~ [Wink] sorry was gone all day at the docs........
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
I just tried calling Mike again and his secretary said he is not in today, she said he was in this morning and recieved all the names and numbers of everyone who called yesterday and he would get back to us as soon as he could. They seem very nice, but I will keep calling until I speak with him and get some of our questions answered...
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
Is there any word on when the 10k or reset will happen? I thought it was supposed to be completed by the 30th of September....
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
it's delayed, it could happen early next week.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
This "Perfect Storm" that Rufus has talked about and Tut has mentioned, is it this?......

Rufus goes for the reset at $15, Rufus gets his Govenrment document that gives his stock immunity from Naked Shortening. CSHD resets at $15 and shorts MUST, I repeat "MUST" now cover because of the Government document, Institutional investors are grabbing all the, -what they see as CHEAP Share's they can... (because the 10k is AWESOME!!)

This causes a huge SQUEEZE like "nothing the market has ever seen." [Big Grin]

Read what Tut wrote again:

There could also be good reasons to begin the price reset at a not too "unrealistically" high price. Technical reasons which would make it easier to get to NASDAQ without too may questions and easier acceptance by regulatory bodies of an "acceptable" price reset. Easier acceptance for institututional buyers to step in and that in turn would continue to drive up share prices farther and continue to support the upward movement. This in turn would also force shorts to continue to push prices higher as they begin to cover because of the continued climb. It would technically be very possible to see the pps even climb to $50 or higher even in the first few hours of trading. The continued climb based on the valuation of the company and continued growth could see a sustained climb over days, weeks and longer.
---------------
Still think there's going to be a selloff that will DROP the price???...

One thing is for sure, ONE day those naked shorters will have to cover! They are NOT doing it now that is for sure!

So it seems to fit why Rufus held off on the 10k and reset so he could get this "Government document" so thay CANNOT do it anymore.

I THINK Rufus is going to try to do something "at his new web site."

That's right...
Why the certs? Why the user log in?
Why the free level two's?
Why the REAL TIME Financials?!!!!

I think somehow a DTCC type person will run the shares somehow through his web site and that is HOW Rufus will know that NO Naked Shorts are being dumped into the market...

Remember Rufus is "friends" with the government!!
So he gets a "permit" to do this... "???"

Rufus is already looking at WHERE and HOW shares enter the market place, hence the Berlin Exchange!

That's my "GUESS."
And... I think the BIG money is going to be made on the other side of the reset.

FWIW ~
All just a guess here folks [Smile]

Couldn't agree more Chart. I just don't want to miss the "storm" because I'm waiting for my certs. Are you gonna get yours?
Yes, not 100%
But I am going to get a cert for around 75%
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
So is tomorrow 10k day or Friday?
Didn't he nail it down?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Is there any word on when the 10k or reset will happen? I thought it was supposed to be completed by the 30th of September....

You probably haven't been following or have missed a lot. Alot has happened in the last week. Rufus is dotting his I's & crossing his T's & the big day is coming. He is awaiting some paper due to get to him by Thurs * 5pm. It's some kind of document from the government. Then he will file the 10K anywhere from Friday to Tues. Then...............RESET!!!!

That kind of sums it up. Hope that helps!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Finally a little movement EOD 2.50. I'm getting my certs mailed to me this week.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
has anyone noticed all the 10K transactions we've seen today, I don't know why this caught my attention but there have been lots!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
So those of you who are getting certs...where are you going to keep them? I was looking into getting 80% or so of mine and put them in our safe deposit box. I was worried about insurance on them though and found that most banks carry little to no insurance on safe deposit box contents. The only thing I could find was to add a policy to your homeowners, but it seemed like it would be mighty expensive if you insured the certs for what I'm hoping they will be worth.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Banking/FinancialPrivacy/P41893.asp

I'm very interested in more discussion about this. I haven't called for my certs, yet, because of this. If the cert was to be destroyed somehow, it's just like cash, and you can't get it back (at least that's what I remember from my securities training). That thought does not sit well with me.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
So where is everyone keeping their certs? I'm not real comfortable with putting them in a safe deposit box. With the SIPC insurance and the extra insurance policies some of the borkers have, it almost seems safer to keep it with them.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Certs can be replaced I thought...

We'll have to check, but just for those very reasons I thought that you could get a new cert should something happen, after all it is registered with the TA right?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ps...

I have a REAL SAFE spot to keep certs...

You can send YOURS to ME and I'll take real good care of them!!!

Muh hu ha ha ~~~~~~~~

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
So where is everyone keeping their certs? I'm not real comfortable with putting them in a safe deposit box. With the SIPC insurance and the extra insurance policies some of the borkers have, it almost seems safer to keep it with them.

There are fire proof safety boxes you can buy from Fleetfarm type stores, even big heavy vaults if you want.

FYI
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
geez.. MM's just buying time til the 10K.. i wish Rufus would just stick it to them ASAP.. those guys don't deserve third chances..
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Man, I am so confused on this certs thing. I'm SO sorry if this has been covered already, but I've re-read old posts and still quite can't get it clear in my head. What's the connection between getting the certs and the $15 Rufus said that he would cover???? Never heard of anything like that and am having a hard time getting a handle on it. Also, I see the benifit for Rufus if we get certs (two points were mentioned earlier today), but other than what I mentioned in my first question, I don't see a real benefit. Can someone please help me out on this one.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Man, I am so confused on this certs thing. I'm SO sorry if this has been covered already, but I've re-read old posts and still quite can't get it clear in my head. What's the connection between getting the certs and the $15 Rufus said that he would cover???? Never heard of anything like that and am having a hard time getting a handle on it. Also, I see the benifit for Rufus if we get certs (two points were mentioned earlier today), but other than what I mentioned in my first question, I don't see a real benefit. Can someone please help me out on this one.

Vin...

How long do you see yourself being in this after the reset?... Start there.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
did rufus also say that if your name wasn't in the books by the 29th than it was already to late? I know that was the deadline for the waatle share holders. Is there anyway this has more to do with them, and is it me or do they close this thing on a down tick everyday.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Man, I am so confused on this certs thing. I'm SO sorry if this has been covered already, but I've re-read old posts and still quite can't get it clear in my head. What's the connection between getting the certs and the $15 Rufus said that he would cover???? Never heard of anything like that and am having a hard time getting a handle on it. Also, I see the benifit for Rufus if we get certs (two points were mentioned earlier today), but other than what I mentioned in my first question, I don't see a real benefit. Can someone please help me out on this one.

Vin...

How long do you see yourself being in this after the reset?... Start there.

I'm kinda thinking that I'll set aside 50% for at least 6 months to see what happens.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Vin...you aren't the only one that is concerned, most aren't sure what to do. As I said before, it is too late to order your CERTS in time for the "reset" IMO. Rufus also stated in the subpennyradio the other night, IF YOU DON"T HAVE your CERTS as long as you can show "proof" that you own your shares, he will make sure that what ever you might have coming you will get...just not sure what that would be...

[Confused]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Today, 02:33 PM #1362
tutankhamen
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 183

الصبر سوف يكافا عده مرات. كل شيء سيكون
سريعا جدا عن الان. الله يكون معك.

Literal translation: The patience will its considering Ykafa times . Each thing will be
Quickly very about now . Allah is with you .

According to those who speak arabic: Patience will be rewarded several times. Everything will Very quickly from now. God be with you.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Vin, I'm in the same boat. Someone mentioned that if something were to happen that Rufus would cover the shareholders and pay $15 per share to them. He would then go after the MM's or borkers or whoever to get his money back.

I don't want to sell at $15, so I'm not liking this. I haven't heard the interview, so I can't say for sure that's what he said.

The only way I can see something like this happening is if Rufus has some way to halt the trading and make all real certs the only this there...thus not give the naked shorts time to cover the "air shares". I'm not talking about time to cover as in I'm giving you a chance, but giving them time to cover at really high prices...as in squeeze. Rufus almost sounds like he has something to do this with, but again...that's in the interview I haven't heard.

Anyone have a link to the interview? That one that was put up here earlier was for the interview before the last one.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
I almost bought some more today, but thought I would do it in the morning...what a dope I am sometimes.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Vin...you aren't the only one that is concerned, most aren't sure what to do. As I said before, it is too late to order your CERTS in time for the "reset" IMO. Rufus also stated in the subpennyradio the other night, IF YOU DON"T HAVE your CERTS as long as you can show "proof" that you own your shares, he will make sure that what ever you might have coming you will get...just not sure what that would be...

[Confused]

Glad I'm not alone in my state of what the utter confusion. Thanks for your thoughts on this...I know it's been kicked around for a while now.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
The other thing with the certs. It also sounded like you might get some benefits from having certs in your name. I didn't think it was possible to give people with cerst in their names something that everyone (shareholders with shares at their borkers) doesn't get. That was until Tax posted about the Disney bennies. I didn't realize. Tax, can you elaborate on what special treatment you get from having your certs in your name?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Ok, one last stupid question of the day...I PROMISE. Can someone explain to me exactly what the TA does? I assume its a transfer agent????

Thanks again.
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
If certs are req'd, they should of PR'd it. Since they did not PR that, sobeit.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
Today, 02:33 PM #1362
tutankhamen
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 183

الصبر سوف يكافا عده مرات. كل شيء سيكون
سريعا جدا عن الان. الله يكون معك.

Literal translation: The patience will its considering Ykafa times . Each thing will be
Quickly very about now . Allah is with you .

According to those who speak arabic: Patience will be rewarded several times. Everything will Very quickly from now. God be with you.

Can someone check to see if this is really Tut?....

Cause "Allah" is NOT the God that the other Tut made reffence too! Something is WRONG HERE!

RED FLAG!!!!

I'm telling you!.... We nned to double check WHERE this came from!

There a link a at HSM that hass ALL of Tuts posts there, it updates itself.... Is this one in there?!!!

I'm away from home and can't check!
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
All Tut posted was

الصبر سوف يكافا عده مرات. كل شيء سيكون
سريعا جدا عن الان. الله يكون معك.

The translations are from other people.

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
Today, 02:33 PM #1362
tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 183

الصبر سوف يكافا عده مرات. كل شيء سيكون
سريعا جدا عن الان. الله يكون معك.

Literal translation: The patience will its considering Ykafa times . Each thing will be
Quickly very about now . Allah is with you .

According to those who speak arabic: Patience will be rewarded several times. Everything will Very quickly from now. God be with you.

Can someone check to see if this is really Tut?....

Cause "Allah" is NOT the God that the other Tut made reffence too! Something is WRONG HERE!

RED FLAG!!!!

I'm telling you!.... We nned to double check WHERE this came from!

There a link a at HSM that hass ALL of Tuts posts there, it updates itself.... Is this one in there?!!!

I'm away from home and can't check!


 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
Well Allah could be a generalized arabic term.
My question is why arabic, egyptian will suffice.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Allah = Muslim god!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
NOT cool.....

911 anyone???????
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Yea, I'm with you Chart. This doesn't fit in well at all. Would like to know exactly who wrote this... I'm pretty uncomfortable with this.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yes, the TA is the tranfer agent.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/transferagent.asp

Chart...I think that it was you...concerned if your cert gets lost or on fire what ever? the Certs that you get are registered in your SS# and the TA would be able to replace it if you lost it...
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Ok, one last stupid question of the day...I PROMISE. Can someone explain to me exactly what the TA does? I assume its a transfer agent????

Thanks again.


 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Yes, the TA is the tranfer agent.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/transferagent.asp

quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Ok, one last stupid question of the day...I PROMISE. Can someone explain to me exactly what the TA does? I assume its a transfer agent????

Thanks again.


Thanks, I owe you!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm going home right now to dig further into this.....

wtf!!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Ok, is it me, or do I read those comments as a terrorist message??? [Confused]

Does someone have a link to the original post?
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Right...I searched the literal translation on the web and someone on HSM offered the other one. I gotta agree with you on the allah thing...made me scratch my head, but it was in the literal translation given on the web. He might have said God in arabic...know what I mean. [Wink]


quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
All Tut posted was

الصبر سوف يكافا عده مرات. كل شيء سيكون
سريعا جدا عن الان. الله يكون معك.

The translations are from other people.

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
Today, 02:33 PM #1362
tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 183

الصبر سوف يكافا عده مرات. كل شيء سيكون
سريعا جدا عن الان. الله يكون معك.

Literal translation: The patience will its considering Ykafa times . Each thing will be
Quickly very about now . Allah is with you .

According to those who speak arabic: Patience will be rewarded several times. Everything will Very quickly from now. God be with you.

Can someone check to see if this is really Tut?....

Cause "Allah" is NOT the God that the other Tut made reffence too! Something is WRONG HERE!

RED FLAG!!!!

I'm telling you!.... We nned to double check WHERE this came from!

There a link a at HSM that hass ALL of Tuts posts there, it updates itself.... Is this one in there?!!!

I'm away from home and can't check!



 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
Here is another Tut just posted.


و ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله.

And someone translated it into

Once hit, and whether it will be destroyed when the enemy. Victory will be yours. Those who stand before the living. Those who stand with their backs to me would die. Varuah will be avenged. Would you from the wealth of the Kingdom when Phoenix land and guards the gate of victory. God be with you in all that it is doing
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
Here is another Tut just posted.


و ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله.

And someone translated it into

Once hit, and whether it will be destroyed when the enemy. Victory will be yours. Those who stand before the living. Those who stand with their backs to me would die. Varuah will be avenged. Would you from the wealth of the Kingdom when Phoenix land and guards the gate of victory. God be with you in all that it is doing

That's enough for me. If someone can send me the link, I'll report this.
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
So far Tut seems to have made five posts today on HSM ..Here they are:


Today, 04:18 PM #1526

tutankhamen
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 185 و ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله.


Today, 04:17 PM #1517

tutankhamen
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 185 و437 ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله.


Today, 03:33 PM #1362

tutankhamen
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 185 الصبر سوف يكافا عده مرات. كل شيء سيكون
سريعا جدا عن الان. الله يكون معك.


Today, 01:36 PM #1093

tutankhamen
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 185 Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo2003
heres what I need clarification on. Stocks normally trade above BV(usually 2x or more than BV) correct? And assuming that CSHD has full ownership of these bonds, then the BV should be much higher like 5x the $15 reset. So why are we still having a $15 reset?! Not complaining. Just doesnt make sense. I just thought we could eliminate market manipulation by destroying them with a fair value reset price.

This from my previous posts may explain your question:

There could also be good reasons to begin the price reset at a not too "unrealistically" high price. Technical reasons which would make it easier to get to NASDAQ without too may questions and easier acceptance by regulatory bodies of an "acceptable" price reset. Easier acceptance for institututional buyers to step in and that in turn would continue to drive up share prices farther and continue to support the upward movement. This in turn would also force shorts to continue to push prices higher as they begin to cover because of the continued climb. It would technically be very possible to see the pps even climb to $50 or higher even in the first few hours of trading. The continued climb based on the valuation of the company and continued growth could see a sustained climb over days, weeks and longer.


Today, 01:07 PM #1029

tutankhamen
HSM Newbie

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 185 I don't know if anyone has already posted this but it will explain the market for carbon credits and why it is profitable with the latest news.

Carbon emissions trading

Carbon emissions trading involves the trading of permits to emit carbon dioxide (and other greenhouse gases, calculated in tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent, tCO2e). It is one of the ways countries can meet their obligations under the Kyoto Protocol to reduce carbon emissions and thereby mitigate global warming.

107 million metric tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent (tCO2e) have been exchanged through projects in 2004, a 38% increase relative to 2003 (78 mtCO2e).[1]

The world's only mandatory carbon trading program is the European Union Emissions Trading Scheme (or EUETS). Created in conjunction with the Kyoto Protocol, a 1997 international treaty that took effect in 2005, it caps the amount of carbon dioxide that can be emitted from large installations, such as power plants and factories, in the EU's 25 member countries. (AP)

Operation
A country (or group of countries) caps its carbon emissions at a certain level (this is known as cap and trade) and then issues permits to firms and industries that grant the firm the right to emit a stated amount of carbon dioxide over a time period. Firms are then free to trade these credits in a free market. Firms whose emissions exceed the amount of credits they possess will be heavily penalised. The idea behind carbon trading is that firms that can reduce their emissions at a low cost will do so and then sell their credits on to firms that are unable to easily reduce emissions. A shortage of credits will drive up the price of credits and make it more profitable for firms to engage in carbon reduction. In this way the desired carbon reductions are met at the lowest cost possible to society.

Business opinion
With the creation of a market for trading carbon dioxide emissions within the Kyoto Protocol, it is likely that London financial markets will be the centre for this potentially highly lucrative business; the New York and Chicago stock markets would like a share (which is unlikely as long as the US rejects Kyoto).[2] The European Union's European Union Greenhouse Gas Emission Trading Scheme (EU ETS) began operations on 1 January 2005.

23 multinational corporations have come together in the G8 Climate Change Roundtable, a business group formed at the January 2005 World Economic Forum. The group includes Ford, Toyota, British Airways and BP. On 9 June 2005 the Group published a statement stating that there was a need to act on climate change and stressing the importance of market-based solutions. It called on governments to establish "clear, transparent, and consistent price signals" through "creation of a long-term policy framework" that would include all major producers of greenhouse gases.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
Here is another Tut just posted.


و ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله.

And someone translated it into

Once hit, and whether it will be destroyed when the enemy. Victory will be yours. Those who stand before the living. Those who stand with their backs to me would die. Varuah will be avenged. Would you from the wealth of the Kingdom when Phoenix land and guards the gate of victory. God be with you in all that it is doing

Ok now that is just freaky stuff!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
This link is for reporting suspicious activity...

https ://tips .fbi .gov/

If someone can post the original link, I'll report it.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Bucky LINK please...
Vin...relax...( I think)it's ok...
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
This is where I got it...

translate.sakhr.com
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
What are you going to report???????
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
http://www.hot stock market.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43023&page=153&highlight=tut
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
What are you going to report???????

Strange comments like these should looked into. I'm not one that goes around reporting everything, but this is just too strange. Never hurts to give a heads up.
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
Can I report you for reporting this? HAHAHA j/k

quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
What are you going to report???????

Strange comments like these should looked into. I'm not one that goes around reporting everything, but this is just too strange. Never hurts to give a heads up.

 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
http://www.**************.com/forums/member.php?u=16135
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
hot stock market. com/ forums. member.php ?u = 16135

I think that is a link to all Tut's posts
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Anybody see any reasons why this "shouldn't" be reported?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Easy Vin...the Allah part was from someone's translation. Allah doesn't necessary mean terrorist. I would think that the only work for God in whatever language that was, is Allah.

I don't see any reason to report this, but you can if you like.
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
I see nothing that should be reported.
If it is from TUT he may have chosen a different language. The contents are in question due to the translation. What part makes you want to report it?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Easy Vin...the Allah part was from someone's translation. Allah doesn't necessary mean terrorist. I would think that the only work for God in whatever language that was, is Allah.

I don't see any reason to report this, but you can if you like.

LOL, don't worry, I'm not flying off the handle or anything like that! [Big Grin] Just don't like to see posts like that. Wondering what everyone thinks before I send.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Is this poster threatening anyone directly or indirectly? While I find it a little odd tut is posting in Arabic now...the fact that it is in Arabic does not make it any more suspicious than English or Egyptian. Also...Allah is not a bad word.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Okey dokey...won't report anything. Just find it quite strange. All is good! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
here it is in Chinese:

و س ت ب ر م ر ه و ض ع ن د م ا و ه ل س ي ت م ت د م ي ر ا ل ع د و. ا ل ن ص ر ل ن ي ك و ن ل ك. ا ل ذ ي ن ي ق ف و ن ق ب ل ا ن ي ع ي ش. ا ل ذ ي ن ي ق ف و ن م ع ظ ه و ر ه م ل ي ل ن ي م و ت. و س م ف و ف ا ن ت ق ا ر و ا ه. س ي ك و ن ل م ن ك ث ر و ا ت ا ل م م ل ك ه ع ن د م ا ف ي ن ي ك س ا ل ا ر ا ض ي و ح ر ا س ب و ا ب ه ا ل ن ص ر. ا ل ل ه ي ك و ن م ع ك ف ي ل م ا ك ت ف ع ل ه.

don't forget to read right to left and bottom up....
[Wink]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Yes, the TA is the tranfer agent.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/transferagent.asp

Chart...I think that it was you...concerned if your cert gets lost or on fire what ever? the Certs that you get are registered in your SS# and the TA would be able to replace it if you lost it...
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Ok, one last stupid question of the day...I PROMISE. Can someone explain to me exactly what the TA does? I assume its a transfer agent????

Thanks again.


10, that was me. I thought I remembered from past securities training that a cert was like cash - I must be getting my thoughts mixed up with something else.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.

We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.

As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.

One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Sorry folks..had to step away or a moment.....I copied the five posts from directly from the HSM website .
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from the thread named: "CSHD - 10/2 Amazon Log Deal, Incredible interview with Rufus and Ben."
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the link...
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http://www.hot stock market .com/forums/showthread.php?t=43023

...The time stamps locate the posts in the run of the thread... hope that helps you
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
The first half of the Islamic creed makes a sharp distinction between the Oneness of God and the claims of religions and magical cults which teach that other gods exist besides Allah. Millions of Muslims daily confess, "There is no God but Allah!"

http://www.light-of-life.com/eng/gospel/g4105efm.htm

Allah IS NOT a universal word for God, and it IS NOT a "nice" word PERIOD. It IS the god of the terrorist. "FACT"

No,... let's not fly off the handle here, but those of you who have seen that video "The BIG PICTURE" understand HOW a whole trading system ""could"" collapse from the inside with naked shorting.

That is why I found it alarming!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Awesome read... I was DDing the "perfect storm" senario Rufas was discussing and ran accross this Hawk Assoc. Guide to prevent Naked Shorting for CEO's. It has a lot to do with what we are seeing. Here is an exerpt and link.

http://www.americanmicrocaps.com/featuredcolumn2.htm

quote:
HOW DOES NAKED SHORTING ACTUALLY WORK?
Based on the accounts of CEOs who believe they have been the target of naked shorts, here is how the worst-case scenario might play out using an ill-intentioned hedge fund (“Fund Malicious”) as an example.
Fund Malicious first identifies a target in the microcap world for naked shorting, most likely an obscure company in the development stage or having otherwise questionable fundamentals. The hedge fund gets that firm listed on a foreign exchange in, say, Berlin, via a request funneled through a complicit broker or official in that country. Malicious then sells short shares it doesn’t have (naked shorts them), waits three days for the DTCC to call and ask for the shares, and then replies either, “I borrowed them on the Berlin exchange, and they’ll take some time to get here,” or “I’m a market-maker for that company’s shares in Berlin and naked shorting rules don’t apply there.” The DTCC then loans the fund shares from its inventory and charges the broker a fee until the stock loan is repaid. Malicious, in the meantime, continues to drive the price of the target’s shares down as long and as aggressively as possible. In the event the fund does cover to pay off the stock loan, it doesn’t take much effort to begin the naked shorting cycle again.

Other theories exist as to how the hedge fund might skirt additional rules. To prevent “piling on,” exchange rules mandate that a stock cannot be shorted on a downtick or decrease in stock price. In other words, Malicious must wait for the stock price to increase briefly before shorting the company. Rather than wait passively for an uptick, though, Fund Malicious can create an uptick in the stock itself by purchasing a few shares through a small offshore account. The hedge fund is then free to short (or naked short) the company with both barrels at home.
Malicious may get additional leverage out of the original naked short by choosing to target an ugly, obscure microcap company. By driving the price down, the fund hopes to scare existing shareholders into selling their shares, too, out of fear that something is going on that they don’t know about (i.e. the fund can “paint the tape”). This, of course, drives the price even lower while further obscuring the role of Fund Malicious.
There is plenty of room for additional mischief in the above scenario. According to the most vocal critics of naked shorting, funds like Malicious have relationships with reporters and/or message board regulars who are compensated to distribute negative news about the company in order to exaggerate the selling. There is also plenty of irony possible, in that a CEO can be her shareholders’ worst enemy by merely uttering the words “naked shorting.” Investors may panic, the stock might dive further and legitimate short-sellers could begin to circle.


 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.

We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.

As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.

One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.

Guys...the Allah was what the translation gave me when I cut and pasted it into the Translation site (I do wonder why it did not say God instead of allah once translated).

I do find it very strange that TUT is posting in arabic...what significance does this have in this situation? He is starting to sound angry with emphasis on the "Those who stand before me will live and those who don't will die" stuff. Nobody's gonna die...they are just going to be very broke.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Not overreacting Dog. Just don't like how it reads...it's a personal thing I won't get into here. Wouldn't do anything without everyone wanting me to do it. I agree...don't need negative attention that isn't warranted. It's not the Allah thing that I dislike, but some of the other references. Oh well, no need to make any more of this I guess.

Glad to see we were up today, although only a bit. I think last nights news kept this in the green.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.

We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.

As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.

One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.

dog I like you man, but you have NO IDEA what you are talking about here...

Their religion states that the world ISN'T big enough for "us" -or "our kind"

That's why they kill us, that's why OUR BOYS are dying our there right now.

I have to chill, this pisses me off something fierce!!
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
i got half my shares in cert today from TDA. it was free due to my apex account. I think most or all longs need to get some in cert. Seems to me like Rufus is giving a warning. He has been telling shareholders to do it for 4-6weeks or more.
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
"......I do find it very strange that TUT is posting in arabic...what significance does this have in this situation?...... " by St.Matthew


I agree and I do not know quite what to think.....tut has always posted in english or standar english sandsript........I think a healthy skeptical view is appropriate to take about tut's posts today......perhaps he might post a follow-up and explain......LOL
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
OK guys...we have a new one and this time, TUT translates. I know I feel better. [Razz]

Today, 03:55 PM #1663
tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 187 و ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيمن ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله. كس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله. سيكون لك

The cobra will strike again and when it does the enemy will be destroyed. Victory will be yours. Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will perish. The Pharoah will be avenged. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think this Tut guy just made a BIG mistake, he has come across as a "good guy" and perhaps he, -in trying to be creative just slipped...

An honest mistake, or the translator made a mistake...

I hope.

I could not stay in this stock knowing that blood from our boys over there would be on my hands.

"I speak this FOR them that have fallen."

PROUDLY I may add...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.

We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.

As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.

One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.

dog I like you man, but you have NO IDEA what you are talking about here...

Their religion states that the world ISN'T big enough for "us" -or "our kind"

That's why they kill us, that's why OUR BOYS are dying our there right now.

I have to chill, this pisses me off something fierce!!

"STAND DOWN" Chart!! [Smile]
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
So the phoenix "lands".
Doesn't the phoenix rise from the ashes?

The cobra will strike "again"?
Has it struck already? When and with what result.

Just analyzing.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
OK guys...we have a new one and this time, TUT translates. I know I feel better. [Razz]

Today, 03:55 PM #1663
tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 187 و ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيمن ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله. كس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله. سيكون لك

The cobra will strike again and when it does the enemy will be destroyed. Victory will be yours. Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will perish. The Pharoah will be avenged. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do.

Well THANK GOD!!! LOL ~

That IS a little better [Smile] whew ~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Chart...Vin and all, if you take any of Tut's post and translate it to a different language and take that same statement from that language and try to translate it back to English it does not end up in the same wording as what the original statement was made...that is why "things get lost in translation"...

My guess is this "Tut" took his statement, wrote it out in english and then put it into a program and it "spit out" what he posted...then the people that read the statement, copy and pasted it and it came back in different wording than what he said...just a guess...

but Allah and God were meant as "God" in my opinion...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I wonder sometimes that in the spirit of sounding "TUT-like" (not that I have any clue what exactly that would be), that he just made a bad choice of words like Chart alluded to. That's what I'm going to go with so we can move on.
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
打,给我一个啤酒
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Please... lets not overreact.. especially if it causes unnecessary negative attention to this stock.

We've done it enough... ask Rufus.. he has already spoken with the SEC.

As long as Tut tells you we are rich... it's ok.

One mention of "Allah", and we freak? Come on people... the world is a big place with room enough for everybody. All but a miniscule amount of people want peace.

dog I like you man, but you have NO IDEA what you are talking about here...

Their religion states that the world ISN'T big enough for "us" -or "our kind"

That's why they kill us, that's why OUR BOYS are dying our there right now.

I have to chill, this pisses me off something fierce!!

"STAND DOWN" Chart!! [Smile]
Well at least you know I'll give you an honest opinion on things! [Big Grin] ha ha ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
I think the translation may have been screwed up...take a look at the translation that tut did following the latest arabic text...

The word Pharoah is used several times...using a translation generator rather than a literal translation I bet that the term King and not Pharoah is found(does arabic have a seperate word for Pharoah?)...just something to take a look at...pretty sure it was just a simple miscommunication...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
...well this conversation is yet another one for the book when it comes out!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
yeah...but I wonder if we write it in english...and it gets translated to another language...will the ending be the same?

quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
...well this conversation is yet another one for the book when it comes out!! [Big Grin]


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
The cobra will strike again and when it does the enemy will be destroyed. Victory will be yours. Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will perish. The Pharoah will be avenged. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do. Yours will be the kingdom of riches when the Phoenix lands and guards the gates of victory. God be with you in all that you do.

My translation of the english version:

There will be another Corporate Event that will eliminate naked shorts. You will win. Those who are shareholders will make money. Those who are not won't make any money. Rufas will make up for BBAN and other previous bad decisions. You are going to make some money off of all of this when the big money starts to roll in and protect the share price. God is on your side for investing in CSHD. You are going to make some money off of all of this when the big money starts to roll in and protect the share price. God is on your side for investing in CSHD.

OMG Tut is a PUMPER! Can't believe I didn't see it before. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
That's all we need is to uncover some plot yet also!! LOL ~~

This stock is something else...... [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OK now that all that is done... go back to the top of page 48 and have a look at the link that I posted. It isn't as good as the Darkside of the Looking Glass link of Charts. But someone needs to tell me if the last paragraph does sound like a short shaker to you. And on that is being employed by Rufas.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Chart, seriously man, you need to go chill for awhile!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cool AZ:
Chart, seriously man, you need to go chill for awhile!

Done, been done...

-bout time YOU catch up! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Tax, I can not find a post by with a link on page 48...perhaps I missed it ....could you repost it please?

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OK now that all that is done... go back to the top of page 48 and have a look at the link that I posted. It isn't as good as the Darkside of the Looking Glass link of Charts. But someone needs to tell me if the last paragraph does sound like a short shaker to you. And on that is being employed by Rufas.


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Awesome read... I was DDing the "perfect storm" senario Rufas was discussing and ran accross this Hawk Assoc. Guide to prevent Naked Shorting for CEO's. It has a lot to do with what we are seeing. Here is an exerpt and link.

http://www.americanmicrocaps.com/featuredcolumn2.htm

quote:
HOW DOES NAKED SHORTING ACTUALLY WORK?
Based on the accounts of CEOs who believe they have been the target of naked shorts, here is how the worst-case scenario might play out using an ill-intentioned hedge fund (“Fund Malicious”) as an example.
Fund Malicious first identifies a target in the microcap world for naked shorting, most likely an obscure company in the development stage or having otherwise questionable fundamentals. The hedge fund gets that firm listed on a foreign exchange in, say, Berlin, via a request funneled through a complicit broker or official in that country. Malicious then sells short shares it doesn’t have (naked shorts them), waits three days for the DTCC to call and ask for the shares, and then replies either, “I borrowed them on the Berlin exchange, and they’ll take some time to get here,” or “I’m a market-maker for that company’s shares in Berlin and naked shorting rules don’t apply there.” The DTCC then loans the fund shares from its inventory and charges the broker a fee until the stock loan is repaid. Malicious, in the meantime, continues to drive the price of the target’s shares down as long and as aggressively as possible. In the event the fund does cover to pay off the stock loan, it doesn’t take much effort to begin the naked shorting cycle again.

Other theories exist as to how the hedge fund might skirt additional rules. To prevent “piling on,” exchange rules mandate that a stock cannot be shorted on a downtick or decrease in stock price. In other words, Malicious must wait for the stock price to increase briefly before shorting the company. Rather than wait passively for an uptick, though, Fund Malicious can create an uptick in the stock itself by purchasing a few shares through a small offshore account. The hedge fund is then free to short (or naked short) the company with both barrels at home.
Malicious may get additional leverage out of the original naked short by choosing to target an ugly, obscure microcap company. By driving the price down, the fund hopes to scare existing shareholders into selling their shares, too, out of fear that something is going on that they don’t know about (i.e. the fund can “paint the tape”). This, of course, drives the price even lower while further obscuring the role of Fund Malicious.
There is plenty of room for additional mischief in the above scenario. According to the most vocal critics of naked shorting, funds like Malicious have relationships with reporters and/or message board regulars who are compensated to distribute negative news about the company in order to exaggerate the selling. There is also plenty of irony possible, in that a CEO can be her shareholders’ worst enemy by merely uttering the words “naked shorting.” Investors may panic, the stock might dive further and legitimate short-sellers could begin to circle.


bump (reading)
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Anyone know a lot of German? I only know, "Da berg est stiel", and Das ist Biere!"

http://www.berlin-boerse.de/publications/pdf/Publication_002355.pdf

Not much on here but I was looking for record of how CSHD got listed on that Berlin Exch.

Thanks,
TB
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Okay....gotit....TY Chart....Tax's post shows up way down in the middle of page 48 on my browser....that's what had me [Confused] ..... [Big Grin]


quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Tax, I can not find a post by with a link on page 48...perhaps I missed it ....could you repost it please?

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OK now that all that is done... go back to the top of page 48 and have a look at the link that I posted. It isn't as good as the Darkside of the Looking Glass link of Charts. But someone needs to tell me if the last paragraph does sound like a short shaker to you. And on that is being employed by Rufas.



 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
I'm all caught up now Chart! LOL!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Taxback, very good link!

found this:
Monitor small international exchanges.
If your firm unexpectedly turns up on the Berlin-Bremen stock exchange and you, the CEO, did not request a listing there, that might be a sign of a problem. Request the removal of your company from that exchange immediately, and keep asking until it’s done.
--------------------------------------------

Got a laugh out of that ~
"Might be a problem..." ha!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Taxback, very good link!

found this:
Monitor small international exchanges.
If your firm unexpectedly turns up on the Berlin-Bremen stock exchange and you, the CEO, did not request a listing there, that might be a sign of a problem. Request the removal of your company from that exchange immediately, and keep asking until it’s done.
--------------------------------------------

Got a laugh out of that ~
"Might be a problem..." ha!

Just got about half way down on that article and had to ask myself... Is the author documenting CSHD, because all of this sure does sound familiar.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cool AZ:
I'm all caught up now Chart! LOL!

We do have fun here don't we?!! lol

Back to making some $$$ now [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
this is better than high school


LMAO


[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Notice the FTD's (naked shorts) DON'T have to be covered BEFORE becoming a Threshold security (SHO List) -They (MM's) can Naked short the stock to kingdom come and not cover! (?)

http://www.sec.gov/spotlight/keyregshoissues.htm

Regulation SHO does not require close-outs of "grandfathered" fails. As noted above, "grandfathered" status applies where the fail position was established prior to the security becoming a threshold security. However, any new fails in a security on the threshold list are subject to the mandatory close-out provisions.
--------------
Is this why MM's aren't covering?!!
-below is from that same site:
-----------------------------------

The term "short squeeze" refers to the pressure on short sellers to cover their positions as a result of sharp price increases or difficulty in borrowing the security the sellers are short. The rush by short sellers to cover produces additional upward pressure on the price of the stock, which then can cause an even greater squeeze.
------------

So Rufus knows the squeeze will come IF there is a big price change (reset) Rufus goes further by getting his Government buddies to nix the Naked Shorting going on from reset on on HIS stock only! [mystery yet as to HOW]

Bottom Line:
Rufus REALLY IS about to punch those MM's right in the McNuggets!!! LOL ~

It's right there in back and white IMO ~

Sleep well, you'll need it the ride is only starting at the reset IMO ~ [Smile]

Later Board!
Chart
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Man, I think I should have gotten the certs. Kept getting the run around and gave up. JMHO
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I got screwed today in NVMG... Oh well.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Chart & Vin, I DO NOT THINK YOU WERE OVERREACTING! If it was a mistake ,fine, but NOT COOL!!

Please explain this statement from "TUT" for me:

Varuah will be avenged.

Who the HELL is that?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Chart & Vin, I DO NOT THINK YOU WERE OVERREACTING! If it was a mistake ,fine, but NOT COOL!!

Please explain this statement from "TUT" for me:

Varuah will be avenged.

Who the HELL is that?

Varuah was a major mistake in the translation, that all. Tut reposted with what he meant and the word was Pharoah(sp?)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
1 Nancy Morris Secretary SEC 8/29/06 RE: Amendments to Regulation ...
1 Nancy Morris Secretary Securities and Exchange Commission Washington, DC 8/29/06 RE: Amendments to Regulation SHO (Release No. 34-54154 File No. S7-12-06) Ms. Morris and SEC Commissioners, My name
Size: 246968 Modified: 08/29/2006 /comments/s7-12-06/s71206-150.pdf
-------------------------------------------
Filed on 8-29-06!! [Smile]
Pulled out this little tibet:

I see that there are those among you that still don’t appreciate the pandemic nature of this systemic “Fraud on the market” or the emergent nature of it as victimized corporations are drowning today in a sea of unaddressed and archaic delivery failures.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Chart & Vin, I DO NOT THINK YOU WERE OVERREACTING! If it was a mistake ,fine, but NOT COOL!!

Please explain this statement from "TUT" for me:

Varuah will be avenged.

Who the HELL is that?

Not really sure Jenna. I'm really thinking (hoping) that all this was a translation issue. Sounds like you just read all of this and having the same initial reaction that we also had. I actually did a search on Varuah and couldn't come up with anything that made sense.
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
Praise be ALLAH - We are declaring Jihad on the Shorts - la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la (guns shooting in the air) [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
I think all the answers to Tut's message, the reset and the 10-K can be found within these numbers. 4 8 15 16 23 42

quote:
Originally posted by ClayN:
Here is another Tut just posted.


و ستضرب مره وعندما وهل سيتم تدمير العدو. النصر لن يكون لك. الذين يقفون قبل ان يعيش. الذين يقفون مع ظهورهم لي لن يموت. وسوف انتقم فارواه. سيكون لك من ثروات المملكه عندما فينيكس الاراضي وحراس بوابه النصر. الله يكون معك في كل ما تفعله.



 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I have never understood why so much emphasis has been put on TUT. No one even knows who he is. Yes some of his posts have been prophetic but if anyone is buying or selling this stock because of them they need to stop trading and put their money in a safety deposit box because they are too easily influenced.

This about CSHD, period. There are sub-plots but that's all they are. The Naked Short situation is a big sub-plot and is important. But in reality this is about whether CSHD has the assests or don't. If they have them as they have shown then the events about to take place will happen as we all project.

Let's not allow this thread to be overtaken the "TUT" factor. Yes it was fun for a while trying to guess who he was but now all this talk of political and religous intentions belong on the off topic thread. It will all be really good in the novel but that is about it.

That's my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
I agree Wally- there's a lot of good DD on this board that deal with actual facts, filings, suppositions based on conversations/interviews/postings of Rufus, Ben Stanley, Michael Alexander, etc. And while it's interesting to hear what an anonymous POSSIBLE insider may or may not have to do with CSHD- it should remain completely irrelevant to your responsibility as an investor and/or trader.

The only thing people should worry about are the facts and actions that influence the value and/or share price of CSHD. Not some silly cryptic messages.

Now that hatch and the island? That's a different story.
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I have never understood why so much emphasis has been put on TUT. No one even knows who he is. Yes some of his posts have been prophetic but if anyone is buying or selling this stock because of them they need to stop trading and put their money in a safety deposit box because they are too easily influenced.

This about CSHD, period. There are sub-plots but that's all they are. The Naked Short situation is a big sub-plot and is important. But in reality this is about whether CSHD has the assests or don't. If they have them as they have shown then the events about to take place will happen as we all project.

Let's not allow this thread to be overtaken the "TUT" factor. Yes it was fun for a while trying to guess who he was but now all this talk of political and religous intentions belong on the off topic thread. It will all be really good in the novel but that is about it.

That's my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Wally ~ I disagree...

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I have never understood why so much emphasis has been put on TUT. No one even knows who he is. Yes some of his posts have been prophetic but if anyone is buying or selling this stock because of them they need to stop trading and put their money in a safety deposit box because they are too easily influenced.

This about CSHD, period. There are sub-plots but that's all they are. The Naked Short situation is a big sub-plot and is important. But in reality this is about whether CSHD has the assests or don't. If they have them as they have shown then the events about to take place will happen as we all project.

Let's not allow this thread to be overtaken the "TUT" factor. Yes it was fun for a while trying to guess who he was but now all this talk of political and religous intentions belong on the off topic thread. It will all be really good in the novel but that is about it.

That's my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

GLTA
Wally

OH wait! No, no I just read it again.
Yes! I do agree. [Big Grin]

TB [Cool]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Ok in tuts saying.. those who stand before me will live..I think means the shorters who come forward to get help will be okay...those who stand with their backs to me will perish means the shorters who are not coming forward will go bankrupt etc what do ya all think????? Cause he does repeat this over and over and..... [Wink]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Tut is a dead-head....
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
Ok in tuts saying.. those who stand before me will live..I think means the shorters who come forward to get help will be okay...those who stand with their backs to me will perish means the shorters who are not coming forward will go bankrupt etc what do ya all think????? Cause he does repeat this over and over and..... [Wink]

There is little doubt that Rufus & tut are very close to one another if not one in the same person.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Here is an interesting site It keeps track of securities that are on the SHO list. CSHD ha been on there for 40 consecutive days now! WOW that is over a month.

CSHD NASDAQ Bulletin Board 40 9.15% 40 9.15%

http://regsholist.com/
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
LMAO!!!!!!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by JHenry:
Praise be ALLAH - We are declaring Jihad on the Shorts - la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la (guns shooting in the air) [Big Grin]


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
An even more interesting site!!!

I was reading this article and it was obvious it was about CSHD but they don't mention it to keep the topic on Naked Short Sales. It became interesting with I read the comment on the article. Both Ben and Rufa were kind enough to comment.

quote:
Re: What's 235% more shareholders than shares between friends? By Ben Stanley on 9/21/2006 10:49 AM
You forgot to mention the $2.6 billion in bond assets that we brung to the table.

http://www.thesanitycheck.com/BobsSanityCheckB l o g/tabid/56/EntryID/457/Default.aspx

{take out the spaces}
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
this is better than high school


LMAO


[Big Grin]

anything is better than high school!!!!

Think about it....

Walking up hill both ways thru snow and ice in July...

Having to wear your mothers coat and try to convince your friends that you are making a fashion statement...

Watchen out for the kid that wants your lunch money...

Having to beat up another kid for his lunch money because the other kid got yours...

having to get up early in the morning knowing that you would be to tired to go out and party that night, if you did..... so you skip school in order to sleep in and be the life of that party,.....decisions, decisions......

bla-bla-bla.......


it's all better than high school!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...the kid wearing his mom's coat was you?

Oh and I'll send you the lunch money back...after the reset...no hard feelings?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
this is better than high school


LMAO


[Big Grin]

anything is better than high school!!!!

Think about it....

Walking up hill both ways thru snow and ice in July...

Having to wear your mothers coat and try to convince your friends that you are making a fashion statement...

Watchen out for the kid that wants your lunch money...

Having to beat up another kid for his lunch money because the other kid got yours...

having to get up early in the morning knowing that you would be to tired to go out and party that night, if you did..... so you skip school in order to sleep in and be the life of that party,.....decisions, decisions......

bla-bla-bla.......


it's all better than high school!!!!

Jeez Mom I said I brushed my teeth....
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Here is the speculation of the night!!!

Reading some more comments on a different article on the same site Sean posted the plan of a previous CEO. I wonder if this is Rufas's idea. If so! Get those certs!

quote:
PGWC Sought to put the squeeze on the Miscreants with a Certificate only dividend..the stock hase been reduced from $7.60 to .93cents today( all within a space of 3 weeks)

CSHD Call outT.D. Ameritrade last week...I wonder where the stock will be trading in a month or so!!

Any CEO that has tried to battle these shorters/manipulators have been shown "Whose boss" and it is NOT the CEO!!!!

http://www.thesanitycheck.com/Default.aspx?tabid=56&EntryID=454
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
interesting note:

when i filled out the papers for my merrill account today, there was a check box based on the Patriot Act...

it said (in a nutshell):
do you agree to allow us to discolse your name & address to the companies in which you hold positions?

so that makes sense re: Rufus' "list" of names.

even Merrill said only if i get certs will they take it out of my name, but they also said they dont foresee a problem. i own my shares (once they get them DTC'd over)

~BB
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Here is the speculation of the night!!!

Reading some more comments on a different article on the same site Sean posted the plan of a previous CEO. I wonder if this is Rufas's idea. If so! Get those certs!

quote:
PGWC Sought to put the squeeze on the Miscreants with a Certificate only dividend..the stock hase been reduced from $7.60 to .93cents today( all within a space of 3 weeks)

CSHD Call outT.D. Ameritrade last week...I wonder where the stock will be trading in a month or so!!

Any CEO that has tried to battle these shorters/manipulators have been shown "Whose boss" and it is NOT the CEO!!!!

http://www.thesanitycheck.com/Default.aspx?tabid=56&EntryID=454
Did that company have more than 8.5 billion dollars in assets?

This is a juggernaut. Good luck trying to squash it. The military needs their jets.

The MM shorters will buy their way out.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
This is weird.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I have never understood why so much emphasis has been put on TUT. No one even knows who he is. Yes some of his posts have been prophetic but if anyone is buying or selling this stock because of them they need to stop trading and put their money in a safety deposit box because they are too easily influenced.

This about CSHD, period. There are sub-plots but that's all they are. The Naked Short situation is a big sub-plot and is important. But in reality this is about whether CSHD has the assests or don't. If they have them as they have shown then the events about to take place will happen as we all project.

Let's not allow this thread to be overtaken the "TUT" factor. Yes it was fun for a while trying to guess who he was but now all this talk of political and religous intentions belong on the off topic thread. It will all be really good in the novel but that is about it.

That's my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

GLTA
Wally

Just having fun with it...nobody really believes he is the "savior"...do they? It's kinda like studying during finals week when all your tests are on the same day. You get a little silly towards the end. [Razz]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
He isn't the "savior"??? j/k [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Chart & Vin, I DO NOT THINK YOU WERE OVERREACTING! If it was a mistake ,fine, but NOT COOL!!

Please explain this statement from "TUT" for me:

Varuah will be avenged.

Who the HELL is that?

Varuah was a major mistake in the translation, that all. Tut reposted with what he meant and the word was Pharoah(sp?)
Thanx, Tax! That stuff's spooky!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
What?~LOL~ I thought this was why we are all buying like crazy in the first place?!!! TUT TUT say it isn't true~LOL~ j/k everyone...ugh right? hahaha rotflol [Wink]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
LOL i just buy a stock and if i dont get sick i keep it ...but if i get sick i know its no good...now I have tut and i dont have to rely on myself~LOL~ hehe oh well it was funny!!!!!! [Wink] Do your own dd to determine what is right for yourself.......
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
interesting note:

when i filled out the papers for my merrill account today, there was a check box based on the Patriot Act...

it said (in a nutshell):
do you agree to allow us to discolse your name & address to the companies in which you hold positions?

so that makes sense re: Rufus' "list" of names.

even Merrill said only if i get certs will they take it out of my name, but they also said they dont foresee a problem. i own my shares (once they get them DTC'd over)

~BB

This is something I have begun to pursue. It has to do with the NOBO list. I called Scottrade today because I wanted to make sure I appeared as a NonObjectionable Beneficial Owner. According to what I have read, I should have the right to hold my shares in street name but allow the company I have invested in know who I am. This In My Opinion is my right. If this is true, Then the TA should be able to see Scottrade/my name and info so that they know I own those shares. the funny thing was that when I asked the Manager at my local branch he had no idea what I was talking about. I told him he needs to look into and get back and I will be calling back. On a thread here on Allstocks JUICE post what a NOBO is. Please read it and see if you come to the same conclusions as I have.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
this is better than high school


LMAO


[Big Grin]

Dollar, this qoute of your made me laugh so hard!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
interesting note:

when i filled out the papers for my merrill account today, there was a check box based on the Patriot Act...

it said (in a nutshell):
do you agree to allow us to discolse your name & address to the companies in which you hold positions?

so that makes sense re: Rufus' "list" of names.

even Merrill said only if i get certs will they take it out of my name, but they also said they dont foresee a problem. i own my shares (once they get them DTC'd over)

~BB

This is something I have begun to pursue. It has to do with the NOBO list. I called Scottrade today because I wanted to make sure I appeared as a NonObjectionable Beneficial Owner. According to what I have read, I should have the right to hold my shares in street name but allow the company I have invested in know who I am. This In My Opinion is my right. If this is true, Then the TA should be able to see Scottrade/my name and info so that they know I own those shares. the funny thing was that when I asked the Manager at my local branch he had no idea what I was talking about. I told him he needs to look into and get back and I will be calling back. On a thread here on Allstocks JUICE post what a NOBO is. Please read it and see if you come to the same conclusions as I have.

GLTA
Wally

wally, I agree with pressing brokers. Most have *no clue* about pennyworld...and yet, what we're asking for is what applies to the bigs...

make sense?

If they don't know "the rules," then *what* are they doing?
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
A guy is really cutting up theshort selling that is keeping our stock price down. It is real interesting. Here's the site.....http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Wally...here is JUICE's post...

The NOBO/OBO System

The names of the ultimate beneficial owners of street name shares - i.e., the customers of the brokers and banks who have deposited the shares with DTC - are maintained by the brokers and banks, not by companies themselves. Recognizing that this system left companies without direct contact with a large proportion of their beneficial owners, the Commission adopted rules in 1983, which went into effect in 1986, requiring brokers and banks to provide companies with lists of "non-objecting beneficial owners" (or "NOBOs") who did not object to having their names and addresses supplied to companies.17 Objecting beneficial owners (or "OBOs"), which constitute an estimated 75 percent of shares held in street name,18 still may be contacted directly only by the broker or bank, or its agent. Although companies may mail proxy materials directly to NOBOs, as a practical matter they never do so, because current SEC rules require companies to forward proxy materials through brokers and banks regardless of whether they are also mailed directly.19 Therefore, companies only use NOBO lists to mail out supplemental materials, annual reports and quarterly reports, which do not have to be mailed through brokers and banks.20 Furthermore, because only the brokers and banks are legally entitled to vote shares held in street name, companies cannot use NOBO lists to enable beneficial owners to vote directly with the company.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
interesting note:

when i filled out the papers for my merrill account today, there was a check box based on the Patriot Act...

it said (in a nutshell):
do you agree to allow us to discolse your name & address to the companies in which you hold positions?

so that makes sense re: Rufus' "list" of names.

even Merrill said only if i get certs will they take it out of my name, but they also said they dont foresee a problem. i own my shares (once they get them DTC'd over)

~BB

This is something I have begun to pursue. It has to do with the NOBO list. I called Scottrade today because I wanted to make sure I appeared as a NonObjectionable Beneficial Owner. According to what I have read, I should have the right to hold my shares in street name but allow the company I have invested in know who I am. This In My Opinion is my right. If this is true, Then the TA should be able to see Scottrade/my name and info so that they know I own those shares. the funny thing was that when I asked the Manager at my local branch he had no idea what I was talking about. I told him he needs to look into and get back and I will be calling back. On a thread here on Allstocks JUICE post what a NOBO is. Please read it and see if you come to the same conclusions as I have.

GLTA
Wally

wally, I agree with pressing brokers. Most have *no clue* about pennyworld...and yet, what we're asking for is what applies to the bigs...

make sense?

If they don't know "the rules," then *what* are they doing?

I guess it's time we edumacate them. The most ironic part of this is Scottrade makes more money on us Penny investors. They get the $7 bucks plus 1/2% of what we buy and we are very active traders. Very few trades we make are long term holds. Scottrade has made a ton off of me because I'm active and I know others trade more often than I do.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally...here is JUICE's post...

The NOBO/OBO System

The names of the ultimate beneficial owners of street name shares - i.e., the customers of the brokers and banks who have deposited the shares with DTC - are maintained by the brokers and banks, not by companies themselves. Recognizing that this system left companies without direct contact with a large proportion of their beneficial owners, the Commission adopted rules in 1983, which went into effect in 1986, requiring brokers and banks to provide companies with lists of "non-objecting beneficial owners" (or "NOBOs") who did not object to having their names and addresses supplied to companies.17 Objecting beneficial owners (or "OBOs"), which constitute an estimated 75 percent of shares held in street name,18 still may be contacted directly only by the broker or bank, or its agent. Although companies may mail proxy materials directly to NOBOs, as a practical matter they never do so, because current SEC rules require companies to forward proxy materials through brokers and banks regardless of whether they are also mailed directly.19 Therefore, companies only use NOBO lists to mail out supplemental materials, annual reports and quarterly reports, which do not have to be mailed through brokers and banks.20 Furthermore, because only the brokers and banks are legally entitled to vote shares held in street name, companies cannot use NOBO lists to enable beneficial owners to vote directly with the company.

THANK YOU 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
In reading the post of the NOBO list...I can see and understand a little more of why Rufus and other CEO's would want us to put our name "in the books". It sounds as though, as of right now, the brokers that we use are the ones that get to "vote" on stuff for a company that we may hold shares in? and the brokers don't have to forward any of the info from the company to us? Is this some of what is in that post?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Can you relay what is being said?

quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
A guy is really cutting up theshort selling that is keeping our stock price down. It is real interesting. Here's the site.....http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero


 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"The most ironic part... ."

yup, push, push, push...

can promise this: when I call Scottie's Compliance Dept? they have my track record in the notes...

To re-align the system? You have to *push* ... very hard. Kinda like giving birth. Not nastily, not ignorantly. But pushing all the while, with extreme intent...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
another interesting note:

the option to check that NOBO box was on paperwork usually filled out by the financial advisor/broker.
it so happens that my friend is a VP at Merrill, so i said give me the papers ill fill em out to save time, and i sat in his office doing so.

had it been a 3rd party filling out the paperwork, they could have not even given me the option.


and fyi i showed them, the guys in the Merrill office, the clause there and said "this is what Rufus was talking about"

they were all kinda like oh...

Ameritrade never gave me that option to check [Wink]

it feels good knowing i checked the dern box!!!

~BB
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
He is saying that you should NOT sell even when the stock gets to $100. He said you would only be helping the Naked shorters who have to get out. He is willing to bet anyone that the stock gets to $700. He is really firing me up. This is great listening.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
A guy is really cutting up theshort selling that is keeping our stock price down. It is real interesting. Here's the site.....http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero

It's VERY interesting!!! This guy is CRAZY in love with CSHD & RUFUS!!
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
He says it may pass $100 the first week. $200 the next week. He is comparing it to Google.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
He comparing CSHD to GOOGLE!!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
In reading the post of the NOBO list...I can see and understand a little more of why Rufus and other CEO's would want us to put our name "in the books". It sounds as though, as of right now, the brokers that we use are the ones that get to "vote" on stuff for a company that we may hold shares in? and the brokers don't have to forward any of the info from the company to us? Is this some of what is in that post?

Yes that is part of it. The other thing is that I believe that it's very similar to the information we allow our banks to give out. We have the option of, in essence, gagging them and not allowing them to give out any personal information. What, IMO, happened here is that since brokers are acting like a financial institution they have used this to hide who actually owns the shares. Now the rub here is that we can say OH, it's OK I want you to give my info to the company. They just don't tell us this and automatically put us into the OBO list, which is Objectionable Beneficial Owners, this allows them total control. As I'm typing this something else comes to mind. As long as 75% of the shares are in street name as OBO's the brokers vote our shares just as 10 was stating. This IMO, is dangerous. Maybe the problem actually goes beyond the act of Naked Shorting and has to do with who's in control? Thoughts?

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
He comparing CSHD to GOOGLE!!!

This guy knows more than we think...read his post on H S M
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex says;
Kinda like giving birth

Hmmm...there is NO way that you would know what that is like..nor over half the posters on this board...

Also..if that is "all" it's like? It should be a breeze..for me...
[Wink]

(just messin' with ya Tex...)

And I PM'd JUICE for a link to where he got that.
I will be "givin' birth" to choicetrade and etrade tomorrow...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Who is HE? He's very MOTIVATING! I wonder if he's friends with Rufus...
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Who is HE? He's very MOTIVATING! I wonder if he's friends with Rufus...

Jesuspower1 on H S M....
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
It sounds to me like he knows a lot. Maybe freinds with Rufus. In the past they have talked on this together.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Who is HE? He's very MOTIVATING! I wonder if he's friends with Rufus...

he is just another bagholder like us IMO


LOL [Razz]
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
mnvestor.................he is making me want to buy even more
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I think I did read a few of his posts.....he's betting one of the bashers $1,000,000 for his $20,000 that CSHD will be worth $700 /share possibly within 1 year. He just said he has 250,000 shares!!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I'm buying a lot more tomarrow!!!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Who is HE? He's very MOTIVATING! I wonder if he's friends with Rufus...

Jesuspower1 on H S M....
Is he part of the Church group with the 144's earlier on one of the threads?

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
It's refreshing to hear him speak of God... He saying God has blessed him & let him to CSHD & people who have it will be blessed.....now he's talking about Jesus... How COOL.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
mnvestor.................he is making me want to buy even more

He knows something....that you and the rest of this board do not know...FWIW
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
mnvestor.................he is making me want to buy even more

He knows something....that you and the rest of this board do not know...FWIW
Do you that for sure? 'cause I hope so...
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Not for sure...but everyone over on that site thinks so. He surely impresses me.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
mnvestor.................he is making me want to buy even more

not me fellow , chittt i got enough with TUT


LOL


U know what i mean ehh
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
OOOOH he just said he was going to call MS1 but there corrupt so he called subpeenyradio instead & Simon said he would love it if he called back again sometime!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
He comparing CSHD to GOOGLE!!!

Funny, Rufus and Ben were too! [Big Grin]

What's even more funny is the amount of FTD's that there are this very well could happen!

The "Perfect Storm"
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
Interesting point Wally. I don;t know if anybody's posted this, but for reference, and food for thought here's a link for Rule 14b-1 -- Obligation of Registered Brokers and Dealers in Connection with the Prompt Forwarding of Certain Communications to Beneficial Owners

http://www.law.uc.edu/CCL/34ActRls/rule14b-1.html

I suppose so long as a closely knit board of directors maintains a majority (over 50%) of the total shares, which is mostly the case in OTC stocks, voting on shareholder issues is irrelevant. But I certainly don't wanna just give that right away.

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
In reading the post of the NOBO list...I can see and understand a little more of why Rufus and other CEO's would want us to put our name "in the books". It sounds as though, as of right now, the brokers that we use are the ones that get to "vote" on stuff for a company that we may hold shares in? and the brokers don't have to forward any of the info from the company to us? Is this some of what is in that post?

Yes that is part of it. The other thing is that I believe that it's very similar to the information we allow our banks to give out. We have the option of, in essence, gagging them and not allowing them to give out any personal information. What, IMO, happened here is that since brokers are acting like a financial institution they have used this to hide who actually owns the shares. Now the rub here is that we can say OH, it's OK I want you to give my info to the company. They just don't tell us this and automatically put us into the OBO list, which is Objectionable Beneficial Owners, this allows them total control. As I'm typing this something else comes to mind. As long as 75% of the shares are in street name as OBO's the brokers vote our shares just as 10 was stating. This IMO, is dangerous. Maybe the problem actually goes beyond the act of Naked Shorting and has to do with who's in control? Thoughts?

GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
mnvestor.................he is making me want to buy even more

He knows something....that you and the rest of this board do not know...FWIW
Can you elaborate mnvestor??
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
mnvestor.................he is making me want to buy even more

He knows something....that you and the rest of this board do not know...FWIW
Can you elaborate mnvestor??
no
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
#2570
jesuspower1
HSM Enthusiast

jesuspower1's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 971

I'm sorry I have to go now, but I'm being called to retire for the night.

Blessings to all...don't sell for less than $1000.

Don't buy shares on credit card either

at least he's optimistic, lol...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
WOW!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
mnvestor.................he is making me want to buy even more

He knows something....that you and the rest of this board do not know...FWIW
Can you elaborate mnvestor??
no
Then you're probably better off not posting that...lest you convince a noob to buy based on your assertion which you refuse to back.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bilgert:
Interesting point Wally. I don;t know if anybody's posted this, but for reference, and food for thought here's a link for Rule 14b-1 -- Obligation of Registered Brokers and Dealers in Connection with the Prompt Forwarding of Certain Communications to Beneficial Owners

http://www.law.uc.edu/CCL/34ActRls/rule14b-1.html

I suppose so long as a closely knit board of directors maintains a majority (over 50%) of the total shares, which is mostly the case in OTC stocks, voting on shareholder issues is irrelevant. But I certainly don't wanna just give that right away.

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
In reading the post of the NOBO list...I can see and understand a little more of why Rufus and other CEO's would want us to put our name "in the books". It sounds as though, as of right now, the brokers that we use are the ones that get to "vote" on stuff for a company that we may hold shares in? and the brokers don't have to forward any of the info from the company to us? Is this some of what is in that post?

Yes that is part of it. The other thing is that I believe that it's very similar to the information we allow our banks to give out. We have the option of, in essence, gagging them and not allowing them to give out any personal information. What, IMO, happened here is that since brokers are acting like a financial institution they have used this to hide who actually owns the shares. Now the rub here is that we can say OH, it's OK I want you to give my info to the company. They just don't tell us this and automatically put us into the OBO list, which is Objectionable Beneficial Owners, this allows them total control. As I'm typing this something else comes to mind. As long as 75% of the shares are in street name as OBO's the brokers vote our shares just as 10 was stating. This IMO, is dangerous. Maybe the problem actually goes beyond the act of Naked Shorting and has to do with who's in control? Thoughts?

GLTA
Wally


Great stuff Bilgert.


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Simon said to ask broker for shares in name electronically, if they won't - get cert's .....here we go again!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
mnvestor.................he is making me want to buy even more

He knows something....that you and the rest of this board do not know...FWIW
Can you elaborate mnvestor??
no
Then you're probably better off not posting that...lest you convince a noob to buy based on your assertion which you refuse to back.
I agree. Opinions without facts are just that opinions. That and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee at most places.

Do Not Buy Sell or Hold based upon anyone person's perspective.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
please delete. Once again I quoted instead of edited.

Sorry
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 


Do Not Buy Sell or Hold based upon anyone person's perspective.

GLTA
Wally



you are 1000% CORRECT


thanks wally
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
mnvestor.................he is making me want to buy even more

He knows something....that you and the rest of this board do not know...FWIW
Can you elaborate mnvestor??
no
Then you're probably better off not posting that...lest you convince a noob to buy based on your assertion which you refuse to back.
I agree. Opinions without facts are just that opinions. That and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee at most places.

Do Not Buy Sell or Hold based upon anyone person's perspective.

GLTA
Wally


Read his posts, listen to the interview...then make your own decision...enough about this, thanks
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
I just hope something happens soon! I've been waiting to show my big new $ balance to my husband so he can stop traveling to Chicago from Milwaukee for work.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I think reset will be Tues. Just my opinion.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Maybe Wed. .... Anybody else care to guess?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Tut Just asked a Simon via email...........
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
maybe Thur... or maybe Frid.... or even Sat


i dont know, but i duno 10k got to be first IMO
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
He just asked if it's ok for insiders to give out information on message Boards!!!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I dont think we see a reset until the week after next week
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex says;
Kinda like giving birth

Hmmm...there is NO way that you would know what that is like..nor over half the posters on this board...

Also..if that is "all" it's like? It should be a breeze..for me...
[Wink]

(just messin' with ya Tex...)

And I PM'd JUICE for a link to where he got that.
I will be "givin' birth" to choicetrade and etrade tomorrow...

bless you, dear..

you musta hadda really bad loser in your life...

me? birth, diapers, sore nipples, etc--I'm there.

Prolly? i can change a diaper (legit, no rash overlooked) quicker than most, men *or* women [Wink]

My deal? I *ain't* babysittin' cows...

I'd rather shoot chickens with a slingshot than tend cows...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Simon said it is illegal if you are giving out information that you are an insider for - you can give it out for other co's but not one your part of....he also said you can't give it out if it's told before it goes public......also said it depends on how you say it on the boards.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Guys you know if the cert's issue was that important, rufus wouldnt come on a subpenny radio and state it there, not all investors have time to rummage through message boards. If it was in a PR that said it was necessary, i'd be worried. But who knows if this will even turn out the way any of us are hoping for, and if it doesn't ill be liquid.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
My guess on the reset is "NotSoonEnough"... comon Rufas let get the show rolling. I haven't shown my Rufas plan graphic on almost 5 days now.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
maybe Thur... or maybe Frid.... or even Sat


i dont know, but i duno 10k got to be first IMO

Next week or this week?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
I dont think we see a reset until the week after next week

Why so long?
Did you hear something or just a guess?.....
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Wow, feel like I missed Sunday morning church. Sounds like everyone is dancing in the isles! [Big Grin] Glad to log on and see good stuff instead of you know what.

Not sure I'm gonna get certs, too late for reset as others have expressed here, and I agree. Reset day, nobody knows...heck, we thought all of this would be over months ago...and yet here we are. I would be happy if it reset by end of next week. A lot depends though on what if any news comes out between now and then. With things like they are right now, I don't think the price would ever hold up. Let's pray for a nice healthy baby 10k!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Simon said it is illegal if you are giving out information that you are an insider for - you can give it out for other co's but not one your part of....he also said you can't give it out if it's told before it goes public......also said it depends on how you say it on the boards.

lol, Simon's good on a lotta stuff...but don't get to thinking he's a lawyer.

And, I'll tell you what... he would/will agree with that...my sumation, I mean.

Feel free to copy/forward my answer...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Guys you know if the cert's issue was that important, rufus wouldnt come on a subpenny radio and state it there, not all investors have time to rummage through message boards. If it was in a PR that said it was necessary, i'd be worried. But who knows if this will even turn out the way any of us are hoping for, and if it doesn't ill be liquid.

I believe he has stated that shareholder should request cert's in a PR. I'll look and post it later. But my recollection is that he did.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
maybe Thur... or maybe Frid.... or even Sat


i dont know, but i duno 10k got to be first IMO

Next week or this week?
extension for the 10k=15 more days


after October 15 ,wait fot the reset any day


[Eek!]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Vin,
Did you read the stuff from Wally about the NOBO/OBO list? I am thinking that this may be the way I'm going with this one...
As Tex said...we need to "push" these brokers...
 
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
 
Hi! This is my first post although I have been in this stock since .185 when it was FHAL. I'm a little inexperienced on the computer so forgive me if this comes out funky. The reason I decided to finally post is because I wanted to say thank you to all on this board that have done so much dd and helped everyone out.

Anyway, MNvestor can you at least tell us the "something" that Jesuspower1 knows that we don't? [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Simon has decided to stay "long" on this stock?
Impressive...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Did he just say that 10? I just missed that I started day dreaming...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Welcome got2vfaith


Hi Vin!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
got2hvfaith
Welcome aboard...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hi got2hvfaith [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Yea, I did = another wrench in the tool pile! There are likely long term benefits for everyone on this stock if we do it, but to be honest, this is new territory for me and I'm a little unsure. I'm sure I'm not alone.

...thinking about this as I type...ok, tomorrow I'll get certs on 50% of my stocks and let the rest ride. Is that far off from others? From what I can recall reading, it may be a little lower, but jeez, I could really use a new patio out back for next to my hot tub! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jenna he is talking about it still...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by got2hvfaith:
Hi! This is my first post although I have been in this stock since .185 when it was FHAL. I'm a little inexperienced on the computer so forgive me if this comes out funky. The reason I decided to finally post is because I wanted to say thank you to all on this board that have done so much dd and helped everyone out.

Anyway, MNvestor can you at least tell us the "something" that Jesuspower1 knows that we don't? [Smile]

Welcome. Don't be afraid. Many here are willing to aid you if we can. Hey, I never posted anything on a message board of any kind until last year. My first post on a stock message board was January of this year. Of course it was a question but I got answers. It can be intimadating at first but the worst part is that it's addicting.

Good Luck To You

Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I hear him now... WOW!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Guys you know if the cert's issue was that important, rufus wouldnt come on a subpenny radio and state it there, not all investors have time to rummage through message boards. If it was in a PR that said it was necessary, i'd be worried. But who knows if this will even turn out the way any of us are hoping for, and if it doesn't ill be liquid.

I believe he has stated that shareholder should request cert's in a PR. I'll look and post it later. But my recollection is that he did.

GLTA
Wally

Point being, people are concerned that if the stock resets and we dont have shares in our name, then we won't be entitled to the reset price. In my opinion this is bullsh*t because wouldnt our brokerage or Rufus tell us it is REQUIRED, instead of Rufus requesting us doing it months ago?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Welcome got2vfaith


Hi Vin!

Hey Jenna! Good to see the east coast staying up a bit for a little Rufus talk! [Smile]
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Yea, I did = another wrench in the tool pile! There are likely long term benefits for everyone on this stock if we do it, but to be honest, this is new territory for me and I'm a little unsure. I'm sure I'm not alone.

...thinking about this as I type...ok, tomorrow I'll get certs on 50% of my stocks and let the rest ride. Is that far off from others? From what I can recall reading, it may be a little lower, but jeez, I could really use a new patio out back for next to my hot tub! [Big Grin]

there you go , you might have time to get back in ,dont you think
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Wow, he said he has somewhere between 10,000 & 1,000,000 shares. I'm sure it's closer to 10,000.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Simon has decided to stay "long" on this stock?
Impressive...

Simon is a contradictory liar. Ive listened about 6 hours total to him and he goes back and fourth across ideas and ideals more than a drunk driver on a two way.

He has said hes a momentum trader. Hes said hes long. Hes said hes flipped multiple times.

We all know al gore invented the internet, im just waiting for simon to say he invented the stock market.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Vin, Are we all invited over for a dip in your new hot tub when you get it?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:

there you go , you might have time to get back in ,dont you think
That what I be thinkin'
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jenna...what he is talking about right now? Is why I am not getting my certs...that is how I trade...If I decide to invest in this (not trade)...then I will get certs...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Jenna...what he is talking about right now? Is why I am not getting my certs...that is how I trade...If I decide to invest in this (not trade)...then I will get certs...

That's exactly what it boils down to 10...trading vs. investing.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Me too... If I decide to keep some really long term I'll get my certs. It's just scary because you can't sell immediately. So you're not getting certs at all?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Me too... If I decide to keep some really long term I'll get my certs. It's just scary because you can't sell immediately. So you're not getting certs at all?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Guys you know if the cert's issue was that important, rufus wouldnt come on a subpenny radio and state it there, not all investors have time to rummage through message boards. If it was in a PR that said it was necessary, i'd be worried. But who knows if this will even turn out the way any of us are hoping for, and if it doesn't ill be liquid.

I believe he has stated that shareholder should request cert's in a PR. I'll look and post it later. But my recollection is that he did.

GLTA
Wally

Point being, people are concerned that if the stock resets and we dont have shares in our name, then we won't be entitled to the reset price. In my opinion this is bullsh*t because wouldnt our brokerage or Rufus tell us it is REQUIRED, instead of Rufus requesting us doing it months ago?
Well, THe board recently voted about the possible $15 buyback. What you really have to think about is, who is ultimately responsible for the counterfeit shares? Not the comapny because they never issued them. Now the question is: The broker, the MM or the DTC? They will pass the buck for as long as they can. How long do you want to wait for the courts to settle it. According to some of my research the DTC is ultimately responsible. How easily will we get our money from them? All we have is questions because we have all these big boys(Brokers, MM's and DTC) covering their own A$$.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Called and emailed Aturd earlier today about getting certs, and still no response on either. Welcome abord got2vfaith
[Cool]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Jenna...I don't quite understand what you're asking...post it one more time!! LOL [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
 
Thanks for the warm welcome. I feel like I know most of you because I have read every page of this thread since I got in. So I know it is very addicting.

I hope this all works out for everybody! I really want to tell my husband "I told you so". He thinks I'm nuts when I try to tell him what is going on and now with Tut and all...he may be right.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Vin, Repost what, about your hot tub or the certs?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Welcome faith!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Welcome faith!

....10 hours later....
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Vin, Repost what, about your hot tub or the certs?

LOL...Doesn't matter...just trying to help you get your posting count up! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Guys you know if the cert's issue was that important, rufus wouldnt come on a subpenny radio and state it there, not all investors have time to rummage through message boards. If it was in a PR that said it was necessary, i'd be worried. But who knows if this will even turn out the way any of us are hoping for, and if it doesn't ill be liquid.

I believe he has stated that shareholder should request cert's in a PR. I'll look and post it later. But my recollection is that he did.

GLTA
Wally

Point being, people are concerned that if the stock resets and we dont have shares in our name, then we won't be entitled to the reset price. In my opinion this is bullsh*t because wouldnt our brokerage or Rufus tell us it is REQUIRED, instead of Rufus requesting us doing it months ago?
Well, THe board recently voted about the possible $15 buyback. What you really have to think about is, who is ultimately responsible for the counterfeit shares? Not the comapny because they never issued them. Now the question is: The broker, the MM or the DTC? They will pass the buck for as long as they can. How long do you want to wait for the courts to settle it. According to some of my research the DTC is ultimately responsible. How easily will we get our money from them? All we have is questions because we have all these big boys(Brokers, MM's and DTC) covering their own A$$.

GLTA
Wally

If Rufus wants to "help" shareholders, and give the gift that keeps on giving, I have no doubt, that he would make sure to tell us that the CERTS are required, if he knew the company was thinking of buying us out, or thinking of doing it.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Guys,

Why do I have so little stars? Am I a loser? Don't answer that!!!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Welcome faith!

....10 hours later....
LOL, why give me such a hard time?? Where's the love on this board?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys,

Why do I have so little stars? Am I a loser? Don't answer that!!!

Jeez, now she's sucking up for more stars! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Oh, you know, I have love!!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Jenna...what he is talking about right now? Is why I am not getting my certs...that is how I trade...If I decide to invest in this (not trade)...then I will get certs...

Exactly 10. I won't get certs because I want the control to sell when I want. I'm a swing to short term investor. I don't have children to leave it too so I'll enjoy my profits and decide how to spend them.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Oh, you know, I have love!!!

Per the advise of my lawyer, I cannot respond to that comment.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I think we're flooding this thread - sorry everyone!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Wally I would gladly loan you some of my children...LOL

Jenna...stars mean nothing....as for you being a loser? well we won't go there...LOL (j/k)

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Jenna...what he is talking about right now? Is why I am not getting my certs...that is how I trade...If I decide to invest in this (not trade)...then I will get certs...

Exactly 10. I won't get certs because I want the control to sell when I want. I'm a swing to short term investor. I don't have children to leave it too so I'll enjoy my profits and decide how to spend them.

GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hope this reset happens soon so we can all decide to get our CERTS or not...

I'm going to bed guys...sleep well...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Good night 10. I'm outta here too.

Buh Bye all.
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
If we get our cert's and a major short squezze happens and we wan't to unload a few we would not be able to
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atthebank:
If we get our cert's and a major short squezze happens and we wan't to unload a few we would not be able to

your absolutely right, however some holders are getting a percentage in certs and leaving a percentage to sell...
[Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Wow, atthebank has 5 stars, I'm jealous!!!

Good night all!!!!!
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
I voted 5 for you jenna
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
atthebank sent you a pm
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Thanx Driver!!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Night..
 
Posted by klondike on :
 
Just checking in on this bad boy.

If this goes down some, I will pick up a few more shares.
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Thanx Driver!!!

Jenna I give ya a 5 ++++,
 
Posted by DMOST on :
 
Good morning board, at leastit's morning here, hanging out in Iraq,trying to watch may back.

Welcome ATTHEBANK, Jenna you can have all of mine(2). I'm not sure how I got them anyway. I've never posted any DD (not quick enough and don't have the time) however I do read every post and have at time expressed some positive emotional chatter that is equivalent to nothing pertinent. Any ways I hope for richer days ahead so I can get the hell out of here and live life,some what, happy ever after.

"YOUR PAY YOUR MONEY AND YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE"


[Cool] [Cool] [Wink] [Smile]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
From HSM....here you go betting babe

Donald Davis and the Rainforest Foundation.

Arrested in Brazil for selling land over the internet....
http://www.planetark.com/avantgo/dai...m?newsid=17762


Same foundation listed in TExas and EcoWood shows up also

http://web.archive.org/web/200210161...com/index.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200208021...g/rainmisn.htm

interesting... trying to find out whatever happened here... is this the same company... both in Texas??
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
Haven't posted anything since the QBID run 2 years ago, just wanted to say I'm in this one and good luck to all.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
So everyone is sleeping peacefully dreaming of short squeezes and soggy logs. Im so jealous, and jetlag is a beast.

So it looks like a day later and nothing really has changed. Im surprised to see the negativity towards Simon, he had me convinced that he was neutral...if not actually a bit supportive. Interesting. Who hasnt Rufus "called out"? LOL

Oh well, back to learning...YAY!
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Hmmm, now that ive caught up a bit it seems Simon is maybe a good guy again? Im so confused. And comparison to google again on some other interview program?...interesting. $1000 a share? This is good reading but i must have missed something huge.

Did anyone decide if the guy doing the talking is somehow connected to Rufus?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
good morning everyone. lets see what happens today?
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
morning... just checking to see if anything happened in my sleep. Not yet.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Isn't Rufas supposed to be gettin some kinda paper from his Gov'ment buddies today???

Sumthin about stoppin the naked shorts???
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Hey guys I left a message for Rufus. I'd like him to clear up the certs issue once and for all. On the sub penny interview he said that if your name wasn't in the book by the 29th it was to late. I called the TA and they told me they had no access to the NOBO book. Rufus said to call the TA correct. The whole certs situation thing has been a little cloudy I would say. If it was already to late to get your name in the book as the due date was Sept 29th. What difference does it make now? I guess I'm rambling a bit. I just want this clarified for everyone here.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Is anyone familiar enough with etrade to explain why i transferred funds and the alert says they have transferred but the money never made it into my account? I HOPE its because its early and maybe the funds will show up but i find it strange that the alert says the transfer is complete. Kind of concerns me. [Smile]

I guess ill wait until after 9am EST and see what happens.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
pretty good post about why log recovery in the amazon will work now.

Posted by: stillgotmyguitar
In reply to: Purl Gurl who wrote msg# 92333 Date:10/4/2006 10:02:43 PM
Post #of 92545

Purl Gurl if you had a clue, and I'm not saying that you do. But if you did, you'd know that shallow-draft only will access the Amazon in order to retrieve the logs. Also you would know that a healthy percentage of the past attempts were failures because of the distance to ports in Brazil. That's why (near) the Orinoco river delta, in Venezuela was the perfect place to build 2 new ports (this decade), funded by the IFC a division of the World Bank, a division of the UN. And please let us all know about Finland (backs bonds in H&SWF) and the ties to humanitarian efforts in and around the Amazon.

And please, let us all know where there is a market for carbon credits, and when this was established?? Gosh, think maybe, just maybe this was planned for years?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Is anyone familiar enough with etrade to explain why i transferred funds and the alert says they have transferred but the money never made it into my account? I HOPE its because its early and maybe the funds will show up but i find it strange that the alert says the transfer is complete. Kind of concerns me. [Smile]

I guess ill wait until after 9am EST and see what happens.

New etrade policy - they have had problems with fraudulent transfers:

Incoming funds electronically transferred from non-E*TRADE accounts using Quick Transfer or during the account opening process will now be available for trading after the 5th business day from when the transfer request is received. These pending funds will not be reflected in your account balances until that time.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Great. I guess ill be hunting for a new borker now too. That ticks me off!!
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
I have E*Trade and as of yesterday, transfers take FIVE f-ing business days to transfer. It used to be instantaneous up until yesterday. It kinda sucks. I'm looking to add or maybe completely change brokers if/when CSHD resets, but not until then. Just an extra safety factor.

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Is anyone familiar enough with etrade to explain why i transferred funds and the alert says they have transferred but the money never made it into my account? I HOPE its because its early and maybe the funds will show up but i find it strange that the alert says the transfer is complete. Kind of concerns me. [Smile]

I guess ill wait until after 9am EST and see what happens.


 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Damn, I have etrade as well, and really like it, but this new policy sucks!! Any other brokers have that instant transfer feature?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
for all TDA shareholders check this out this is response to an email I sent this morning. Looks like I'm heading to choice trade.

Mr. McCarroll:

Shares in your TD Ameritrade account are held in street name. Your name is not directly listed on the shares. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause; however, we cannot add your name to a NOBO list. If you would like your name to appear on some public listing of shareholders, you would need to request the physical certificate, or transfer the position to a broker that provides this service.

Michael I.
Apex Client Services, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Isn't Rufas supposed to be gettin some kinda paper from his Gov'ment buddies today???

Sumthin about stoppin the naked shorts???

Rat-ster ~

Good Morning all!

Yep! At 5pm Rufie said he is suppose to have whatever he is gonna get that is going to kill the naked shorting of CSHD.

Rat if he can REALLY do this, Rufus has set up a very interesting deal for the reset! IMO

I can't wait!
 
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
 
Does anyone think Aturd is cleared of responsibility of short shares when they are moved to another broker?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Is anyone familiar enough with etrade to explain why i transferred funds and the alert says they have transferred but the money never made it into my account? I HOPE its because its early and maybe the funds will show up but i find it strange that the alert says the transfer is complete. Kind of concerns me. [Smile]

I guess ill wait until after 9am EST and see what happens.

Catia ~ I think everyone will vouch for me when i say I ran into this two days ago. I had to call ETrade have them manually cancel the ACH transfer, then go to my bank and wire the funds to ETurd. It took a good three hours because I bank at a large national bank that sends it's wires out every hour, rather than once or twice a day. I will be wireing funds from now on. They told me of their "new" rule on Tuesday morning. I was trading the new funds Tuesday afternoon.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
I'd like to hear other experiences regarding pulling certs...either from TDA or any other broker.

I called and requested certs on 10/3. $40 and 4-6 weeks to deliver. I keep trying to get some form of written confirmation that my request was received and acted upon and so far have been stonewalled. My account has not been debited for the fee and there's no other indication in my account about the status of the request.

TDA says they don't have a form of written confirmation for that. Says they have a "fiduciary responsibility" to act on my request. I say if there is no proof of the request there's no accountability to the firm's fiduciary responsibility. They can lie and say I never made the request.

I've never pulled certs...does this sound fishy to anyone?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
pretty good post about why log recovery in the amazon will work now.

Posted by: stillgotmyguitar
In reply to: Purl Gurl who wrote msg# 92333 Date:10/4/2006 10:02:43 PM
Post #of 92545

Purl Gurl if you had a clue, and I'm not saying that you do. But if you did, you'd know that shallow-draft only will access the Amazon in order to retrieve the logs. Also you would know that a healthy percentage of the past attempts were failures because of the distance to ports in Brazil. That's why (near) the Orinoco river delta, in Venezuela was the perfect place to build 2 new ports (this decade), funded by the IFC a division of the World Bank, a division of the UN. And please let us all know about Finland (backs bonds in H&SWF) and the ties to humanitarian efforts in and around the Amazon.

And please, let us all know where there is a market for carbon credits, and when this was established?? Gosh, think maybe, just maybe this was planned for years?

That is huge ~~~
And I remember people laughing at Rufus' future plans with helping fund those "moon cities."

Anybody still think Rufus is a BS-er? -or that our shares won't be worth a ton more in say 10 years?...

Hey, take some profits and party, I plan too, but really think about throwing some "in the sock drawer" and forgetting about them, I think you'll be glad you did! JMHO [Smile]
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Is anyone familiar enough with etrade to explain why i transferred funds and the alert says they have transferred but the money never made it into my account? I HOPE its because its early and maybe the funds will show up but i find it strange that the alert says the transfer is complete. Kind of concerns me. [Smile]

I guess ill wait until after 9am EST and see what happens.

Catia ~ I think everyone will vouch for me when i say I ran into this two days ago. I had to call ETrade have them manually cancel the ACH transfer, then go to my bank and wire the funds to ETurd. It took a good three hours because I bank at a large national bank that sends it's wires out every hour, rather than once or twice a day. I will be wireing funds from now on. They told me of their "new" rule on Tuesday morning. I was trading the new funds Tuesday afternoon.
Well, i wont be able to call them so i hope by sending a message through the etrade site they will cancel the transfer. I already messaged them and told them ill be calling when i get home. I wonder how many customers they will lose over this.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OT: OK I just got off the phone with ETurd. (First time since this thing started that I have made a call to my broker. [Wink] I know I am feeling pretty special about that too.) I was checking on my funds that I began transfering to my account this past Saturday that still haven't showed in my account. Basically because the funds were moved with their "Quick Transfer" feature and the transfer was not that quick so it raised a bunch of "red flags" for me.

Appearantly, funds ACHed to your account that used to be immediate now due to "new" fraud protection rules put in place industry wide can hold up funds for upto 6 business days! Kind of defeats the purpose of "Quick Transfer" huh. Anyway I need to wire the funds. So I had him cnacel the transfer and as soon as they appear back at my bank I am going down there to wire. Just FYI for all those who enjoy this feature of ETradeand other brokers. I got no notification of the change and was really taken by surprise since most of my transfers from my bank to ETrade could be used imediately.

I will be wiring from now on. [Big Grin]

Bumped this for you Catia!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
slight gap up today...
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Thanks Taxback. Ive already fired off 3 nasty messages to them, hopefully they will cancel the transfer. I didnt realize it was industry wide though. I guess ill actually need to keep seed money in my account for impulse buys now. Major drag. It sure seems like they could use other ways to verify transfers, especially when your account is years old.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
doesn't this act pretty much say that. You're broker has to put you on the NOBO list unless I say I don't want to be.

Under rule 14b-1(c) of the Securities Exchange Act, we are required to disclose to an issuer the name, address, and securities position of our customers who are beneficial owners of that issuer's securities unless the customer objects. Please check here if you do NOT want ownership disclosed.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
What kills me is that they didn't tell anyone, and I am pretty sure they need to change the advertised name on that service. It is no longer quick to "Quick Transfer"!

I will probably be like you and keep seed money in there, but with the 20/80/300 plan I am working on you have about 5 days before any buy anyway so maybe just planning ahead would be better for me. All in all if it is truely "fraud protection" I will learn to deal with it I am sure.

Sorry I did not make more of an issue about it a couple of days ago. I might have been able to get you some advanced warning I don't know.

[Frown]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
volume is low this morning... when will we get some news again? Rufas is supposed to have that doc by Thursday at 5pm right? So if it arrives early he should have something today. [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I have never ordered but with both etrade and choicetrade I was asked to fax or email the request in...
Maybe you should do the same, at least you will have some sort of "written" proof of ordering them...

quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I'd like to hear other experiences regarding pulling certs...either from TDA or any other broker.

I called and requested certs on 10/3. $40 and 4-6 weeks to deliver. I keep trying to get some form of written confirmation that my request was received and acted upon and so far have been stonewalled. My account has not been debited for the fee and there's no other indication in my account about the status of the request.

TDA says they don't have a form of written confirmation for that. Says they have a "fiduciary responsibility" to act on my request. I say if there is no proof of the request there's no accountability to the firm's fiduciary responsibility. They can lie and say I never made the request.

I've never pulled certs...does this sound fishy to anyone?


 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Can anyone get on CVSU or is it my computer ?
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Can anyone get on CVSU or is it my computer ?

I get an error
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
no doc I can't get there right now.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doniboy....any news in the baby department?

Cat when Tax had posted about the delay in funds with etrade...I thought it was odd...I had just transfered funds...and everything was fine...didn't realize they were changing anything...seems they should have given everyone a heads up...
Yet another reason to have at least 2 brokers IMO...
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Me too .... hope it is for good reasons
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
wow, I think the L2's are thinning out quite nicely. We might even be in for a nice surprise today. I will now pick up the rest of my shares to have my original count.
Good luck all and lets get ready for some $$$.

No volume now but wait till there is!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
can't get to songwi.com either?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
does anyone know if that sec rule I posted above is in reference to the nobo list.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
10 I sent email request...no response yet.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I have never ordered but with both etrade and choicetrade I was asked to fax or email the request in...
Maybe you should do the same, at least you will have some sort of "written" proof of ordering them...

quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I'd like to hear other experiences regarding pulling certs...either from TDA or any other broker.

I called and requested certs on 10/3. $40 and 4-6 weeks to deliver. I keep trying to get some form of written confirmation that my request was received and acted upon and so far have been stonewalled. My account has not been debited for the fee and there's no other indication in my account about the status of the request.

TDA says they don't have a form of written confirmation for that. Says they have a "fiduciary responsibility" to act on my request. I say if there is no proof of the request there's no accountability to the firm's fiduciary responsibility. They can lie and say I never made the request.

I've never pulled certs...does this sound fishy to anyone?


I noticed yesterday I could do it online through ETrade. It is a service request that is opened.
Look under: Acounts/Forms&Applications/Trading&Taxes there is a link for "Request a Stock Certificate". [Cool]
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
I have Fidelity and transferred $10,000 on 9/28. Bought shares on 9/29 (as the new dollars showed up in my available to purchase securities balance.) No problem. Money was actually received 10/2 according to my history. I have done this numerous times in the past with no e-mails or letters telling me not to.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
does anyone know if that sec rule I posted above is in reference to the nobo list.

I believe so Ryan...

Wasn't BB talking about that to just the other day?...
 
Posted by Sharpie on :
 
Hey Guys, new to the group but have been watching for months. I hope this is not old news or can be helpful... I requested certs on 10/3 from ScotT, deduction was made with no record on my account, called 10/4 they said it would be on my end of month statement, now it appears on my account history with a written note that X amount of shares were transfered to DTC. Called TA and still no request. Is there no way of contacting DTC?
Cant get on CVSU either
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
hey Sharpie ~
welcome [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
does anyone know if that sec rule I posted above is in reference to the nobo list.

I believe so Ryan...

Wasn't BB talking about that to just the other day?...

Then why is ameritrade telling me that they can't put me on the nobo list. Doesn't make sense to me. who do you think I should call take make sure that the sec rule corresponds to the nobo list before I reak holy hell on TDA [Mad]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Has anybody noticed how many MM's are on $5. Someone asked Rufus about the new MM's they noticed and he said that they weren't there to sale "air-shares".
 
Posted by joan32 on :
 
Good morning to all!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
hey chart people...

ya'll seeing a breakout here one way or the other pretty soon? the pattern from the last five days seems to be closing up...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
I have Fidelity and transferred $10,000 on 9/28. Bought shares on 9/29 (as the new dollars showed up in my available to purchase securities balance.) No problem. Money was actually received 10/2 according to my history. I have done this numerous times in the past with no e-mails or letters telling me not to.

I used to do this all the time too, and with Etrade it was immediate, I looked at one transfer in August, and I bought shares 8 minutes after one transfer. But when I went to transfer this last time on Oct 3rd, they stopped it and it showed as "In Process". ETrade told me that there was a new "industry wide" rule regarding ACH transfers, and they now were being asked to hold them for up to 5 business days. The CSR was reading it from a script it sounded like over the phone. Just FYI for all those out there I ran into this earlier this week.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
hey chart people...

ya'll seeing a breakout here one way or the other pretty soon? the pattern from the last five days seems to be closing up...

They may try to bring this down to about 2.38-ish area... (at a glance)
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
can't get to songwi.com either?

You don't suppose they are updating all of their websites with some new info...do you?
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Maybe this new transfer rule went into effect on October 1st? Not sure?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
can't get to songwi.com either?

You don't suppose they are updating all of their websites with some new info...do you?
Yep!

The other times that is what's happened ~

Maybe the "real-time" stuff is getting loaded up, or maybe news about that Gov document.... "?"

Something!
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Welcome Sharpie...good morning all...I have a feeling something is up...JMHO.
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
That could be it... also the server could have crashed and they just don't know the website is down... or they do and are working on it. If someone has there main office number they should call to advise incase they don't know.

quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
can't get to songwi.com either?

You don't suppose they are updating all of their websites with some new info...do you?

 
Posted by jaztile on :
 
The E*TRADE Securities
Customer Agreement is available online at etrade.com/custagree or by calling 1-800-387-2331. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT E*TRADE SECURITIES
DOES NOT PROVIDE INVESTMENT, TAX, OR LEGAL ADVICE. I understand that you will supply my name to issuers of any securities held in
my account so that I might receive any important information regarding them, unless I notify you in writing not to do so.

Correct me if im wrong but the agreement u sign with etrade say that they give info to company unless requested not to.
thanks
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
WOOHOO I just got 2500 more shares!!!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
if you got www.waatle.com you can get onto the website. I don't know why that is right now though.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
OK...read about Jesuspower1 a couple of pages back and went onto HSM to read more posts. What is this group’s take on him/her? Would like to think he/she is "in-the-know", but it's hard to believe something like that. There is one common thread between Rufus, Ben, Tut, and now (obviously) Jesuspower. All very religious and not afraid to let people know about it. It's almost as if this is good versus evil...dark versus light. I, for one, can't wait to see the light...LOL.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Just got 700 more ...... I feel it somethin's comin very soon!!!
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
both of those sites are hosted on the same server and it is not pingable. They may deny ping packets...alot do. DOS attacks.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
WOOHOO I just got 2500 more shares!!!!!

Good for you Jenna! I finished up my buying yesterday. It does feel good to get some more.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Sure does Tax, how you feen' today? You seemed pumped.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Just got 700 more ...... I feel it somethin's comin very soon!!!

You GO GIRL!! ha ~~

For SCOTTY PEEPS: Re: Certs


Thank you for your e-mail. You may request to have shares issued from
your Scottrade account in certificate form and mailed to your address of
record on the account. Please contact your local branch office to
submit this request.

You may obtain the telephone number of your local Scottrade branch
office through our home page in the Branch Locator
-http://www.scottrade.com/online_brokerage_firm_locator/.

There is a $50 fee per certificate requested, and it typically takes
about 4-6 weeks to receive your certificate.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Sincerely,

Cyrus Wardwell
Scottrade, Inc.
www.scottrade.com
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
OK...read about Jesuspower1 a couple of pages back and went onto HSM to read more posts. What is this group’s take on him/her? Would like to think he/she is "in-the-know", but it's hard to believe something like that. There is one common thread between Rufus, Ben, Tut, and now (obviously) Jesuspower. All very religious and not afraid to let people know about it. It's almost as if this is good versus evil...dark versus light. I, for one, can't wait to see the light...LOL.

St. Matt - tell them you are a Saint and maybe you'll get the inside scoop too.
 
Posted by F4i4Brian on :
 
I apologize if this is common knowledge...

For those of you that are getting your certificates, but are worried about not being able to sell them quickly if needed, check with your broker - you should be able to do a "Sale Not Long".

Basically, they will sell the stock for you to lock in the price, then you have 5 (i think) days to deposit the shares. It's not the same as short selling.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
That's what it appears to say...but when I called the TA...my name was not listed with them...

quote:
Originally posted by jaztile:
The E*TRADE Securities
Customer Agreement is available online at etrade.com/custagree or by calling 1-800-387-2331. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT E*TRADE SECURITIES
DOES NOT PROVIDE INVESTMENT, TAX, OR LEGAL ADVICE. I understand that you will supply my name to issuers of any securities held in
my account so that I might receive any important information regarding them, unless I notify you in writing not to do so.

Correct me if im wrong but the agreement u sign with etrade say that they give info to company unless requested not to.
thanks


 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by F4i4Brian:
I apologize if this is common knowledge...

For those of you that are getting your certificates, but are worried about not being able to sell them quickly if needed, check with your broker - you should be able to do a "Sale Not Long".

Basically, they will sell the stock for you to lock in the price, then you have 5 (i think) days to deposit the shares. It's not the same as short selling.

only if you have full service borker...

i don't recomend gettting certs....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by F4i4Brian:
I apologize if this is common knowledge...

For those of you that are getting your certificates, but are worried about not being able to sell them quickly if needed, check with your broker - you should be able to do a "Sale Not Long".

Basically, they will sell the stock for you to lock in the price, then you have 5 (i think) days to deposit the shares. It's not the same as short selling.

WOW thx!

that would be HUGE!!!
Can someone verify with a call?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Hey guys I just called the SEC in regards to rule 14b-1(c). The gentleman's name I spoke to is Jim Daly. He took my information down and said he would try to get back to me if not today then by tomorrow. Any information I receive I will relay to everyone else.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by F4i4Brian:
I apologize if this is common knowledge...

For those of you that are getting your certificates, but are worried about not being able to sell them quickly if needed, check with your broker - you should be able to do a "Sale Not Long".

Basically, they will sell the stock for you to lock in the price, then you have 5 (i think) days to deposit the shares. It's not the same as short selling.

only if you have full service borker...

i don't recomend gettting certs....

I'm not either. But boy will I give some hell if they try to renig on my shares.

L2's filled in pretty good earlier. They had it looking like a nice little run coming.

Does someone else know something I don't? Maybe here's our chance to get cheaper.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Speaking of Jesuspower1....

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesuspower1
I did the best I could last night without compromising the integrity of my sources. They are not insiders. I'm even going to say that they may not be from the USA.

Yes, I compared this to Berkshire Hathaway and for solid reasons. I truly believe that this stock will eventually have a BOOK VALUE of $1000. That means I see this trading at 3 to 5 times that easily within 5 years! It could exceed my expectations...it really could.

Do I know everything? Of course not!

Do I know a little more than most? I certainly do. I have done extensive searches and that I have shared what I know without giving away anything that would help the crooks find a way out of the cobra's grip.

I have an understanding of future projects that will be soon revealed to prove that what I say is beyond the shadow of a doubt...THE MOST MIND BLOWING thing that has happened to a penny stock.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
for those interested the following filed 144's last night:

Chris Stringer 3,750
Luella M Stringer 3,750
Dana M Duree 15,000
Diane & Barry Baker 30,000
Chris & Amy Hoedebeck 75,000
Wayne & Jackie Stokes 75,000
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Petey999
HSM Regular


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 252 So it looks like they're starting to bring up the new website. They've started changing the IP addresses of www.cshd.us, www.cvsu.us and www.songwi.com. So if anyone is trying to get to the "old" site, go to www.waatle.com.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Alright New2!
(once again...) [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Why on earth is there no volume? I just cannot understand how all of this is happening...and no one seems to care...

This is so incredibly strange...it's like logic has no bearing on anything related to this stock...
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
Why on earth is there no volume? I just cannot understand how all of this is happening...and no one seems to care...

This is so incredibly strange...it's like logic has no bearing on anything related to this stock...

Who would want to sell at these prices!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Crab.... Maybe it does make sense... I posted this last night...

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Notice the FTD's (naked shorts) DON'T have to be covered BEFORE becoming a Threshold security (SHO List) -They (MM's) can Naked short the stock to kingdom come and not cover! (?)

http://www.sec.gov/spotlight/keyregshoissues.htm

Regulation SHO does not require close-outs of "grandfathered" fails. As noted above, "grandfathered" status applies where the fail position was established prior to the security becoming a threshold security. However, any new fails in a security on the threshold list are subject to the mandatory close-out provisions.
--------------
Is this why MM's aren't covering?!!
-below is from that same site:
-----------------------------------

The term "short squeeze" refers to the pressure on short sellers to cover their positions as a result of sharp price increases or difficulty in borrowing the security the sellers are short. The rush by short sellers to cover produces additional upward pressure on the price of the stock, which then can cause an even greater squeeze.
------------

So Rufus knows the squeeze will come IF there is a big price change (reset) Rufus goes further by getting his Government buddies to nix the Naked Shorting going on from reset on on HIS stock only! [mystery yet as to HOW]

Bottom Line:
Rufus REALLY IS about to punch those MM's right in the McNuggets!!! LOL ~

It's right there in back and white IMO ~

Sleep well, you'll need it the ride is only starting at the reset IMO ~ [Smile]

Later Board!
Chart


 
Posted by Sharpie on :
 
Chart I had heard that closing above $1 for a certain amount of time(30 days?), qualifies the company for NASDAQ. Is this true? Can you clarify? If so does this coincide with the extention on the 10K?
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Have you guys seen this...who IS this guy?


Today, 08:30 AM #3184
jesuspower1
HSM Enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 979 Quote:
Originally Posted by samaelrocks
Jesuspower - You were talking huge potential in CSHD last night. I have not doubt about that but you were comparing this to BRK. Also, you mentioned talking to what I believe you to mean "insiders". That being said, do you have any additional information you can share with the board that would not compromise insider info laws?

Also, is the reason you are hyped up about CSHD due to projects or revenue that we have not seen or heard about yet? No one seems to know what CVSU had before the merger and I'm wondering if you might have gotten a glimpse at what CVSU's financials looked like pre merger.

Thanks in advance

I did the best I could last night without compromising the integrity of my sources. They are not insiders. I'm even going to say that they may not be from the USA.

Yes, I compared this to Berkshire Hathaway and for solid reasons. I truly believe that this stock will eventually have a BOOK VALUE of $1000. That means I see this trading at 3 to 5 times that easily within 5 years! It could exceed my expectations...it really could.

Do I know everything? Of course not!

Do I know a little more than most? I certainly do. I have done extensive searches and that I have shared what I know without giving away anything that would help the crooks find a way out of the cobra's grip.

I have an understanding of future projects that will be soon revealed to prove that what I say is beyond the shadow of a doubt...THE MOST MIND BLOWING thing that has happened to a penny stock.
__________________

Have you guys seen this...who IS this guy?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think what that is saying is that "they" DON'T have to cover the OLD FTD's, just the ones that they make while it's on the threshold list, they have 3 days then to cover those...

So, they STILL Naked Short it, to dry up good news runs, then on slow days buy them back and keep us low....

That is my guess as to how they are keeping us here. But soon margin calls will go out we hope because of the reset, and if Rufus reallt does get that Gov Document... LOOK OUT! $$$

SUPER SQUEEZE [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sharpie:
Chart I had heard that closing above $1 for a certain amount of time(30 days?), qualifies the company for NASDAQ. Is this true? Can you clarify? If so does this coincide with the extention on the 10K?

Believe we talked about that and we found out that if CSHD has so much $$$ they can even by pass that [Big Grin]

And they do!!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Sharpie

The Nasdaq has three sets of listing requirements. The company must meet at least one of the three requirement sets, as well as the main rules for all companies.

Listing Requirements for All Companies Rule 4420
Each company must have a minimum of 1.1 million publicly-traded shares upon listing, excluding those held by officers, directors or any beneficial owners of more then 10% of the company. The minimum bid price of the stock upon listing must be at least $5. Each listing firm is also required to follow Nasdaq Corporate Governance rules 4350, 4351 and 4360. Companies must also have at least 400 shareholders. A shareholder is defined by Nasdaq as a holder of over 100 shares.

Requirement Rule 4420 (a)
The company must have a minimum shareholder equity of $15 million. The operating income from either the last fiscal year, or two of the last three years, must total a minimum of $1 million. The company must have a minimum of three market makers that will provide liquidity to the trading of their stock. The market value of the publicly-held shares upon trading must be worth at least $8 million.

Requirement Rule 4420 (b)
The company must have a minimum shareholder equity of $30 million. The market value of the shares traded must be at least $18 million upon listing. The company also has to have a minimum operating history of two years. It is also required to have three market makers. What can be seen here is that if a company did not earn enough to meet the operating income minimum, they need to have greater shareholder equity and a larger market value.

Requirement Rule 4420 (c)
Under this requirement companies must have at least $75 million in total assets, total revenue, or listed securities. Listed securities as defined by the Nasdaq are securities listed on either a Nasdaq or another national exchange. The market value of the shares upon listing must be worth at least $20 million. They are also required to add an additional market maker for a total of four market makers.

A company has three ways to get listed on the Nasdaq depending on the underlying fundamentals of the company. If a company does not meet certain criteria such as the operating income minimum, it has to make it up with larger minimum amounts in another area like revenue. This helps to improve the quality of companies listed on the exchange.

It doesn't end there: after a company gets listed on the market, it must maintain certain standards to continue trading. Failure to meet the specifications set out by the stock exchange will result in its delisting. Falling below the minimum required share price, or market capitalization, is one of the major factors triggering a delisting. Again, the exact details of delisting depend on the exchange.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sharpie:
Chart I had heard that closing above $1 for a certain amount of time(30 days?), qualifies the company for NASDAQ. Is this true? Can you clarify? If so does this coincide with the extention on the 10K?

Sharpie...I believe it's $5.00...not positive though.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 196 Rest well everyone. The dawning of a new day will begin soon and one step closer to what you are all waiting for
 
Posted by Sharpie on :
 
Thanx!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 196 الصمت احيانا ضروري. بعض الانبياء المزيفين عندما اتكلم كثيرا وان لم يتكلم. كل شيء سيكون علي كشف لكم وسيكون النصر لكم.

translation:

Sometimes silence is necessary. Sometimes "false prophets" speak too much when they should not speak. Everything will be revealed to you and victory will be yours.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Crab.... Maybe it does make sense... I posted this last night...

quote:

[/QB]
Yeah I did read that last night and was actually already familiar with the grandfathering...

I just start thinking about the manipulation and outright fraud that has taken place and it boggles the mind how brazen these fools are...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
heeeeeeeee's baaaaaack ~ (tut)

[Big Grin] [Big Grin]

What a weird ride this stock is huh!!?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Anyone want a crash course on Financial Congolmerates I was looking into it this morning trying to locate some rules and regulations surrounding them. ("Rufas when on Subpeny Rad. stated that CSHD's industry being Conglomerates was something "special".) I found this site regarding Financial Conglomerates in Canada, but it talks about them in pretty good detail and even talks about Financial conglomerates in other countrie like the U.S. Also I will put the wiki-pedia link again on conglomerates, it is helpful to see how they use their money. I will warn though that it presents them like the idea is "out of style" I think this could not be farther from the truth. They just were run differently in the 60's than they are now. Additionally Financial Congolomerates are highly restricted and wiki does not get into this aspect.

http://dsp-psd.pwgsc.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/BP/prb0016-e.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conglomerate_ (company)

{remove spaces}

One thing I know about conglomerates. They can grow huge! I knew about Siemens, GE, and Haliburton but I never put them in the same class as other media giants like Knight-Ridder and Time-Warner. CSHD has some major growing to do to catch up to the other kids in the class.

Enjoy,
TB [Smile]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
none of these links work? [Confused]


quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
From HSM....here you go betting babe

Donald Davis and the Rainforest Foundation.

Arrested in Brazil for selling land over the internet....
http://www.planetark.com/avantgo/dai...m?newsid=17762


Same foundation listed in TExas and EcoWood shows up also

http://web.archive.org/web/200210161...com/index.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200208021...g/rainmisn.htm

interesting... trying to find out whatever happened here... is this the same company... both in Texas??


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
FYI...

BRK/A is up again today $301.00 to $98,000.00

Ask is at $98,200.00

Just 1800.00 away from $100,000.00 a share!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Bet he's talking about that Jesus guy!

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 196 الصمت احيانا ضروري. بعض الانبياء المزيفين عندما اتكلم كثيرا وان لم يتكلم. كل شيء سيكون علي كشف لكم وسيكون النصر لكم.

translation:

Sometimes silence is necessary. Sometimes "false prophets" speak too much when they should not speak. Everything will be revealed to you and victory will be yours.


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
That's what I thought 10!

cause "Jesus1" was really telling about the trap that being set right in fron of their (MM's) eyes.

I HOPE so anyway, time will tell, but Rufus hasn't bluffed on anything yet...

That blows my mind, cause in Penny's there is ALWAYS BS! You just ride the HYPE and sell on the news! lol ~
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
tutankhamen
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 196 الصمت احيانا ضروري. بعض الانبياء المزيفين عندما اتكلم كثيرا وان لم يتكلم. كل شيء سيكون علي كشف لكم وسيكون النصر لكم.

translation:

Sometimes silence is necessary. Sometimes "false prophets" speak too much when they should not speak. Everything will be revealed to you and victory will be yours.

Chart: who is he referring to?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yes, it is the Patriot Act.

merrill's form had the option to opt-in to the NOBO list on page 1 of their application.

HOWEVER i asked my friend,
who would normally be the one opening the account had i not grabbed the paperwork and said 'here let me do it can do it faster [Wink] '
if he usually gives the client the option to check that box.
and he said he normally checks "no" by default without asking...

so, bring that subject up to your borker.

it is your right.

and fyi, my experience trying to transfer my shares AWAY from TDAm?
2 days ago their rep told me i could only do an ACAT transfer (7-10 days) or he suggested i SELL my entire position and move the funds then re-buy.

next day i was told that Merrill needed to initiate a DTC transfer and TDAm rep gave me their DTC #.

today, cuz merrill has no idea what TDAm is talkin about, i FINALLY got a rep on the phone, a lady who said she can do the DTC and will expedite it, cuz she is familiar with what is going on with CSHD and she felt bad for the confusion.


i cant wait to be rid of them.
~BB


quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
does anyone know if that sec rule I posted above is in reference to the nobo list.

I believe so Ryan...

Wasn't BB talking about that to just the other day?...


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Q. I am going to get a percentage of my shares in a cert., I plan on selling some to after reset depending how that goes.

My question is when are those shares that are on that cert deducted from my account? They don't stay in there right?...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
http://www.law.uc.edu/CCL/34ActRls/rule14b-1.html

General Rules and Regulations
promulgated
under the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
FYI...

BRK/A is up again today $301.00 to $98,000.00

Ask is at $98,200.00

Just 1800.00 away from $100,000.00 a share!

Boy! Am I glad I and sombody else opened Charts eyes to Berkshire & Hathaway. Maybe when this is over we will be able to buy a few shares. [Smile]

but until that day, do we really need price quotes? [Smile] It is huge and amazingly expensive. It was way back in my high school economics class when us students were given $250,000.00 fake dollars and asked to invest it in the stock market and at the end of the semester we would see who made the most money. I put it in BRK/A at 56K and I think it climbed to 78K in about 6 weeks. I won, I rocked, and I got the gold star. [Big Grin]

But other than some fake dollars I have never been able to play with Warren Buffet. My buddy the bartender/bar owner was the only one I have known who did and does. I wonder what has happened to Tom... he was a good guy.

Anyway, no hard feelings, just hate comparing apples and apples until this apple is a heck of alot more ripe.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Sharpie:
Chart I had heard that closing above $1 for a certain amount of time(30 days?), qualifies the company for NASDAQ. Is this true? Can you clarify? If so does this coincide with the extention on the 10K?

Sharpie...I believe it's $5.00...not positive though.
In most cases (there are exceptions) it is $5 and 90 TRADING days.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
The initial listing standards as set forth by NASDAQ...

http://www.nasdaq.com/about/FAQsInitial.stm#1

For the PDF with precise requirements...

http://www.nasdaq.com/about/nasdaq_listing_req_fees.pdf
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
hey Repo, are you in this yet? Just curious. I read a lot of your posts and some are good and some literally make me LMAO. GLTY
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
A 3 cent spread on no volume, like saying i don't care that there no demand, and no supply, I am going to act like there is anyway!

2.36 x 2.39 HA!

can anyone say "manipulation"? this is gonna bite them in the arse so hard when it flys.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Q. I am going to get a percentage of my shares in a cert., I plan on selling some to after reset depending how that goes.

My question is when are those shares that are on that cert deducted from my account? They don't stay in there right?...

Chart, I ordered my stock cert a couple days ago. I will let you know what happens, but I'm assuming once the TA sends me my cert, those shares will no longer be shown/held in my account. I'll let you know how it pans out...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Not in, and to be honest (some of you are not going to like this), but I think the chance to make money off this one has come and gone. It was a GREAT pick at .94, and if you sold anywhere in the 3's, you're fantastic... but now? I think this will stagnate and slowly drop and people on here will truly wish they sold at 3. IMO.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 

 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
repo, the same occurred to me, but i still dont see that rufus has fulfilled any kind of purpose yet.

so i think there is still something big coming... and therefore still a nice run ahead.

do i wisih i could have sold high and bought low?
yuuuuuuuup wouldda done it in a heartbeat.
but stoopid TDAm played big brother so....

~BB
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
If you look at the 5 day chart on this, it looks very scary.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
FYI...

BRK/A is up again today $301.00 to $98,000.00

Ask is at $98,200.00

Just 1800.00 away from $100,000.00 a share!

Boy! Am I glad I and sombody else opened Charts eyes to Berkshire & Hathaway. Maybe when this is over we will be able to buy a few shares. [Smile]

but until that day, do we really need price quotes? [Smile] It is huge and amazingly expensive. It was way back in my high school economics class when us students were given $250,000.00 fake dollars and asked to invest it in the stock market and at the end of the semester we would see who made the most money. I put it in BRK/A at 56K and I think it climbed to 78K in about 6 weeks. I won, I rocked, and I got the gold star. [Big Grin]

But other than some fake dollars I have never been able to play with Warren Buffet. My buddy the bartender/bar owner was the only one I have known who did and does. I wonder what has happened to Tom... he was a good guy.

Anyway, no hard feelings, just hate comparing apples and apples until this apple is a heck of alot more ripe.

That's kind'a my point....

"THIS" apple isn't ripe yet!
The ones that are are so expensive you can't touch them...

1000 shares in x-amount of years at $1,000 does equal 1 MILLION DOLLARS.

So 2000 shares at $500 = 1 million.

and 10,000 shares at $100 a share is 1 million too!

THIS was what I was getting at...

"Throw some in the sock drawer for long term"
IMO [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Q. I am going to get a percentage of my shares in a cert., I plan on selling some to after reset depending how that goes.

My question is when are those shares that are on that cert deducted from my account? They don't stay in there right?...

Chart, I ordered my stock cert a couple days ago. I will let you know what happens, but I'm assuming once the TA sends me my cert, those shares will no longer be shown/held in my account. I'll let you know how it pans out...
Thx man ~
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I think we are going to just have to have a little more faith.. I think we will see a rise soon ,just not sure when...
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
FWIW .. Was just now able to bring up CVSU and SONGWI websites.....have not looked thru them yet to see if things have chagned....
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
repo, the same occurred to me, but i still dont see that rufus has fulfilled any kind of purpose yet.

so i think there is still something big coming... and therefore still a nice run ahead.

do i wisih i could have sold high and bought low?
yuuuuuuuup wouldda done it in a heartbeat.
but stoopid TDAm played big brother so....

~BB

Seems to me Rufus made many people rich on the run last week... good enough purpose for me.
 
Posted by emptycontents on :
 
Check out this YHOO group on CSHD the technician that runs it is brilliant.

http://**************.yahoo.com/group/cshd/
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
put a space in someplace in the word...
 
Posted by emptycontents on :
 
http:// **************. yahoo.com/group/cshd/
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I hear you Repo, and would have to agree, butthis play for me has been about the reset, and the 8k filed last was great! The 10k that is coming will show at least 6 Billion MORE in deals (we have seen the bonds already) so I believe a reset is coming.

I also believe the huge naked short interest here is at work as far as the PPS.

So at this point I guess it's up to eash investor, "are you with, or without" as our deep throat friend Tut has said.

Personally, I don't think it's BS.

Time will tell my friend ~
 
Posted by emptycontents on :
 
finance. groups. yahoo.com /group /cshd/
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by emptycontents:
finance. groups. yahoo.com /group /cshd/

not getting anything ?
 
Posted by emptycontents on :
 
put a http://

And fix the spaces

**************.yahoo.com/group/cshd/
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by emptycontents:
put a http://

And fix the spaces

**************.yahoo.com/group/cshd/

ha ha ~

ya I did.... [Smile]
"?"

I'll try again...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
http://finance. groups.yahoo.com/group/cshd/

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by emptycontents:
finance. groups. yahoo.com /group /cshd/

not getting anything ?

 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I don't understand why you don't think this is going through with the reset REPO. We have another 6 billion that will be audited in the 10Q and give us a book value of over $50.
 
Posted by emptycontents on :
 
No bashers over there
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
I don't understand why you don't think this is going through with the reset REPO. We have another 6 billion that will be audited in the 10Q and give us a book value of over $50.

Haven't you ever heard the phrase "If its too good to be true, it usually is???" That's all I'm saying. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
got'er!
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
5/6 pm tonight? It's on...hopefully we get a PR then. We may see some positive EOD action today.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
then where are all the form 4s?
why all the after-run 144s?

why not throw out a PR pump or 2 if his game is a couple dollars runup?

doesnt add up yet imo.

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
repo, the same occurred to me, but i still dont see that rufus has fulfilled any kind of purpose yet.

so i think there is still something big coming... and therefore still a nice run ahead.

do i wisih i could have sold high and bought low?
yuuuuuuuup wouldda done it in a heartbeat.
but stoopid TDAm played big brother so....

~BB

Seems to me Rufus made many people rich on the run last week... good enough purpose for me.

 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
Agreed! and that is the caution here to be sure!

but im really glad you put that USUALLY in your statement... cuz i've had a few stocks/jobs/experiences handed to be on a silver platter that were DEF 'too good to be true'

and i enjoyed every minute [Smile]

now if i could just get that 'too good to be true' elusive times-square-billboard i'd be a really happy gal!

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
I don't understand why you don't think this is going through with the reset REPO. We have another 6 billion that will be audited in the 10Q and give us a book value of over $50.

Haven't you ever heard the phrase "If its too good to be true, it usually is???" That's all I'm saying. I'll believe it when I see it.

 
Posted by CRab on :
 
thats kinda the way i've been looking at this BB...we'd see form 4's...and to be honest...there have been so many 144's if this WAS some elaborate scam one of those folks would have gotten scared and said something...someone ALWAYS gets scared...

i'm thinkin we'll have a better understanding this evening...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by emptycontents:
No bashers over there

Think of Repo as more of a "realist"

I'm that way too, but this Rufus guy keeps saying things and keeps filing SEC filings and fulfilling them!

Repo I don't know what the heck to make of this, but SEC filings are SEC filings ~

I like things in Black and White.

http://www. pinksheets.com/quote/filings.jsp?symbol=CSHD
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
I just got off the phone with Scottrade. They told me in regards to Rule 14b-1 that they allow shareholder info to be released when requested by a company and that if I DIDN'T want my info to be released I would have to request it in writing.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
then where are all the form 4s?
why all the after-run 144s?

why not throw out a PR pump or 2 if his game is a couple dollars runup?

doesnt add up yet imo.

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
repo, the same occurred to me, but i still dont see that rufus has fulfilled any kind of purpose yet.

so i think there is still something big coming... and therefore still a nice run ahead.

do i wisih i could have sold high and bought low?
yuuuuuuuup wouldda done it in a heartbeat.
but stoopid TDAm played big brother so....

~BB

Seems to me Rufus made many people rich on the run last week... good enough purpose for me.

I agree with you BB on this. If Rufas was trying to MOMO this then he would not hold his cards so close to his chest. just throw them out one after another and go! Trading is so tight on this thing right now that a pin drop of good news would spark another 4 dollar run. This isn't over by a long shot.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
well I hope we do get that pin drop because they seem to be walking us down pretty steadily here...

we're hitting that number Chart mentioned earlier...I think there is a little support here but then not again till around 2.00 or so...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
I just got off the phone with Scottrade. They told me in regards to Rule 14b-1 that they allow shareholder info to be released when requested by a company and that if I DIDN'T want my info to be released I would have to request it in writing.

So that link I posted.....
That DOES mean that when The TA asks Scottrade WHO has shares that they WILL tell them right?!

That is what I think... "UNLESS" you marked that box saying you don't want that info shared....

right?

BB's form HAD to be checked I guess....
BB why can this rule not apply there as well? Or maybe it does and what you did FORCED your name there before the TA asks for it.... "?"

Any thoughts?..

Cause apparently we shouldn't have to worry about the TA agent getting our info as a shareholder according to that rule!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by emptycontents:
No bashers over there

Think of Repo as more of a "realist"

I'm that way too, but this Rufus guy keeps saying things and keeps filing SEC filings and fulfilling them!

Repo I don't know what the heck to make of this, but SEC filings are SEC filings ~

I like things in Black and White.

http://www. pinksheets.com/quote/filings.jsp?symbol=CSHD

Like I said, I'm not in it, not getting into it, so I hope it works out for all of you. I just hope you don't live with the regret of not cashing in on a 300% return later, that's all.

I'm just an observer now.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Right chart which I would think would eliminate the need for certs. That's what I was trying to bring up earlier with that rule. It shouldn't be that hard for the company to know who the shareholders that want to be know.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
I don't understand why you don't think this is going through with the reset REPO. We have another 6 billion that will be audited in the 10Q and give us a book value of over $50.

Haven't you ever heard the phrase "If its too good to be true, it usually is???" That's all I'm saying. I'll believe it when I see it.
I agree with that, but keep in mind we do have 803million in assets AUDITED. That's truth right there.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Where's glassman?
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Right chart which I would think would eliminate the need for certs. That's what I was trying to bring up earlier with that rule. It shouldn't be that hard for the company to know who the shareholders that want to be know.

"It shouldn't be that hard for the company to know who the shareholders that want to be know."


I want to be known, I have to write something to Scottrade?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Right chart which I would think would eliminate the need for certs. That's what I was trying to bring up earlier with that rule. It shouldn't be that hard for the company to know who the shareholders that want to be know.

but yet......

The other side of that coin is that there are ONLY so many shares.......

So I don't know if one should FULLY justify not getting at least some certs...

-my 2 cents.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I have to find out through TDA if I selected to be known by the TA
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Right chart which I would think would eliminate the need for certs. That's what I was trying to bring up earlier with that rule. It shouldn't be that hard for the company to know who the shareholders that want to be know.

"It shouldn't be that hard for the company to know who the shareholders that want to be know."

No, if you DON'T want you info released you have to write them.

I want to be known, I have to write something to Scottrade?


 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Right chart which I would think would eliminate the need for certs. That's what I was trying to bring up earlier with that rule. It shouldn't be that hard for the company to know who the shareholders that want to be know.

but yet......

The other side of that coin is that there are ONLY so many shares.......

So I don't know if one should FULLY justify not getting at least some certs...

-my 2 cents.

Hey all,
Same thinking here... I got half my certs and riding the other half for easy access and maybe a flip or two. Sounds like we will all be okay and that if the brokers don't have what we need Rufus and COmpany will fight for us but it sounds like things will be much nicer if we have our certs. Also there will website privilages if you have your certs (from what Rufus said). Man I can't cwait for all this to be past the Nasdaq point... I want to just relax a little.
IMHO
Ima
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
OUCH!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
until we get something official from Rufus telling us its necessary to get our certs, I'm not going to worry about it.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
hey ruthie, where are you at in NC?? I own investment property in Charlotte, it's beautiful down there...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
for the website access he said they needed to be able to find out who you are. They should have no problem doing that through the TA. That's the problem I'm having with the whole situation
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
RichBy26 I am right outside Charlotte, in the Burbs...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
these mm's don't seem to be having any problems taking us down do they. These guys suck.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Bringing us down on only 550,000 volume today
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
nice!! I am looking to move that way in a year or two, I'm just trying to decide where to build??
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I'm with you Stocktrader. I e-mailed someone with scottie and I also do not feel the need for certs..
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
2.32... I think i am going to stop watching. If I could only pry my eyes away. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Good luck to ya Rich.. I think you will like it down this way...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Let's all walk away & get lunch, then when we come back maybe there will be some news or a nice run (think poss) Ok ready ....GO..
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it looks like to me that nite's been in control for the past 3-4 days just walking this down.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
thx ruthie, GLTY
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
we're going down into the $2.20's ameritrade's really pissed me off. By now I could of double my position if I was able to buy and sell.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
this sucks...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2.04 ish next support level.

I Don't care [Big Grin]

Hoping for a late night PR about that Gov deal Rufus has going on [Smile]

He wasn't suppossed to get it till 5pm.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Wow this is tanking
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
we're going down into the $2.20's ameritrade's really pissed me off. By now I could of double my position if I was able to buy and sell.

Yeah, but then you are back to the question of buying shares or buying air? I've been tempted to flip, but all of mine are prior to the 29th - was concerned about that....anyone else?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
this was a repost on HSM




Originally Posted by ConCarne Posts 1
I'm pretty sure Rufus called this "Conversion Solution" because their main business model is "converting" illiquid assets (salvage rights, mineral rights, contracts, etc.) into liquid assets (cash). They are a "holding corp" for such structured agreements - Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation.

As shareholders each structured "conversion" will have web-accessable financials with a realtime view. To login into the platform you must have your shares in your name (to establishe you as a bonifide participant in the pool of "conversions"). It's a holding corp so all shareholders have equal rights to each "conversion".

Since the bond recently paid in September (what you see as $19m of income "recievables" on the audited financial because the bond pays annually) Conversion Solutions now has the powder available to start taking down deals. The detailed "conversion" inside each deal will vary deal to deal but the viable business all starts with the initial bond portfolio (seed capital), access to more capital (the bank pr), the web platform (real-time "conversion" reporting along with insistence to get shares in your name to establish a "login"), and now details of the actual "conversions" themselves.

Reverse merge the seed capital into a public security that had been previously established via NOBO records to be 3:1 Naked Shorted to "amplify" the "IPO" when people figure it out. Slow play information so it looks a bit seedy to draw out all the crooks. Heck, get them to short more if you're good enough to get them to overlook your main game.

This is nothing short of genius. Backing into the Naked Short shell is a better way to bring a holding corporation like this public because of this "amplification" it brings. If it doesn't immediately capitalize on the backs of the shorts (to double the seed put in) you simply buy out the shares with the seed itself. That's the insurance bet.

It's so smart I wanted you to see it for what I think it is. I'm stunned by how smart this is. Hats off. Checkmate.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
We are tanking...I can see $1.25-$1.50 by tomorrows day end if we get nothing new! This sucks, I havent even pulled out my initial investment yet, dreaming that this is for real. Let's hope it is.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
notice how low the volume is, I would look for an absolute bottom at 1.92, but a bottom resistance of 2.10, I have a limit order in for 1.93. Too low of volume for it to stay down
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
not sure i understand ur question.

as i said, i had to opt IN to the nobo list. usually they automatically opt their clients OUT.

and ameritrade wouldnt even give me an option.

my understanding of this whole discount broker vs full svc broker is that with discount, stuff goes into theirname on behalf of yourname.
for instance, look at how you send wire transfers to choicetrade. send to them, reference your account number. its 3rd party.
at merrill i have a CMA account - an INDIVIDUAL acct- so it is actually under my name. and so they give me the nobo option.

im not sure you can push the discount broker to allow you to do so. i know i tried, and TDAm simply refused.
by they're a bunch of borkers anyway [Wink]

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
I just got off the phone with Scottrade. They told me in regards to Rule 14b-1 that they allow shareholder info to be released when requested by a company and that if I DIDN'T want my info to be released I would have to request it in writing.

So that link I posted.....
That DOES mean that when The TA asks Scottrade WHO has shares that they WILL tell them right?!

That is what I think... "UNLESS" you marked that box saying you don't want that info shared....

right?

BB's form HAD to be checked I guess....
BB why can this rule not apply there as well? Or maybe it does and what you did FORCED your name there before the TA asks for it.... "?"

Any thoughts?..

Cause apparently we shouldn't have to worry about the TA agent getting our info as a shareholder according to that rule!


 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Looks like a last big effort to take shares off of longs! i see us drop below $2 easy.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
not even 800k shares "traded" and it is going down this quick?
I wonder how much the website being down plays into this decline?
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
why is this dropping so low? news coming?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
RSI now 62.51. Either its gonna bounce off the 60 or if it fall through then I feel very confident it'll bounce off the 50. Aroon showing downtrend and AD showing near bottom.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p71166005586
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Chartwalker... Where do you see a support??
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
BB stocks usually tank on low volume. Look at FRPT. When it trade millions of shares, it goes up, obviously because it is riding good news. But even with all that good news out there, when there is low volume days, shorters come in and profit takers leave.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I got a vice grip on my slips. [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Watch for a huge bounce!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'll be watching.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
support at 2.00-2.03?
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
Looking at the chart, which I stated earlier today was very scary, I see $1.80, however if this fall creates a panic sell it could go to around a dollar where it held its best support.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
We definitely need a bounce!!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
how the hell is nite still sitting on the ask that long with all those buys at 2.05.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
You have to wonder if the MM's really know if this won't happen, and are just making tons of money shorting it.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Looks like support at 1.94 with the next at 1.68 then strong support at 1.15.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
2.04 ish next support level.

I Don't care [Big Grin]

Hoping for a late night PR about that Gov deal Rufus has going on [Smile]

He wasn't suppossed to get it till 5pm.

bump.

Posted this a while ago ruthie...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i didnt ask a question.

i assume you are answering 10?
~BB


quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
not even 800k shares "traded" and it is going down this quick?
I wonder how much the website being down plays into this decline?

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
BB stocks usually tank on low volume. Look at FRPT. When it trade millions of shares, it goes up, obviously because it is riding good news. But even with all that good news out there, when there is low volume days, shorters come in and profit takers leave.


 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i didnt ask a question.

i assume you are answering 10?
~BB


quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
not even 800k shares "traded" and it is going down this quick?
I wonder how much the website being down plays into this decline?

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
BB stocks usually tank on low volume. Look at FRPT. When it trade millions of shares, it goes up, obviously because it is riding good news. But even with all that good news out there, when there is low volume days, shorters come in and profit takers leave.


i sent you a PM
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I dunno, I just don't see us under 2 anytime soon with all the support. Never know though with crazy stocks like this one.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
This is the biggest MM walk down trick to fool people into selling that I have ever seen. Total bogus crap!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Ok, back to this cert thing. Lets say you own stock in Microsoft or some big time company and you plan on holding long (10 years or more), why do you get certs? Is it not safer to keep the shares with a borker who has insurance and what not?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Ok, back to this cert thing. Lets say you own stock in Microsoft or some big time company and you plan on holding long (10 years or more), why do you get certs? Is it not safer to keep the shares with a borker who has insurance and what not?

Absolutely no reason to keep certs. anymore unless you want to frame it on your wall as a symbol of your investment knowledge... other than that, keep it at the broker.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
2.04 ish next support level.

I Don't care [Big Grin]

Hoping for a late night PR about that Gov deal Rufus has going on [Smile]

He wasn't suppossed to get it till 5pm.

bump.


not bad, I'm showing a LOD at 2.03

rat would be proud! [Big Grin]
Posted this a while ago ruthie...


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL..either my l2's are totaly screwed up or this is some serious crap from these MM's...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
My opinon only! ... I wouldn't sell anything ... I would as Rufus suggested - buy the "#*%* out of it now ... looks like we are turning the corner ...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
look at that nite on bid and asked and it's not moving seems to me with the amount of buys coming in at 2.13 we should be past that now.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
the last few transactions have been above the ask...lol...what a joke...I'm going to clean the bathroom...for some reason all I can see is crap...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cool AZ:
My opinon only! ... I wouldn't sell anything ... I would as Rufus suggested - buy the "#*%* out of it now ... looks like we are turning the corner ...

We'll "turn the corner" IF it goes down again but not as far then moves back up [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
the last few transactions have been above the ask...lol...what a joke...I'm going to clean the bathroom...for some reason all I can see is crap...

Now today You're talking Sh*t!! LMAO!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
NOOOOOOOOO.... ahhhh, damn my bank of america... they are taking forever to wire it in my account... pffff, and i even hafta pay $15 for every wire... i know that doesn't go to speedy wires.... well... i think i missed todays opportunity:( GLA, watching...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
-this freaking HURTS.......

STILL LONG!!!!

[Damnit!] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
who buys two lots of 19,331 shares?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
rufus better release something huge and not tonight pr's after trading hours suck they need to be released during the day. Ok from last week I'm now down about 40G's now that really hurts.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
anyone having trouble with TDAm streamer????
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
not unless you mean I see cshd crashing rat. Other than that it seems to be working fine.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I'm sure everyone saw this this morning but here it is again. Seems like some real good news!!!

Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTCBB CSHD) Wednesday's market went up 2.24% to $2.51 per share, with a total of 2,155,944 shares traded. Ecowood, LTD., a Lake Dallas-based company via Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp, announces the addition of Michael Alexander as the Chief Executive Officer, President and Chairman of the Board. Mr. Alexander has also become the majority shareholder of Ecowood, LTD. "I look forward to the challenges during this rapid growth process," says Michael Alexander. Mr. Alexander has purchased the majority interest in the company and will leave most management in their current positions. This purchase includes Ecowoods' non-profit sister company, Rainforest Preservation Foundation, known in Brazil as Fundamazon Fundacao De Preservacao Da Floresta Amazonica, which actually holds the license with the Brazilian Government. "This purchase comes with unbelievable assets, to include, standing rainforest timber management, a major titanium deposit, clear title to all the logs at the bottom of the Amazon River and its tributaries, with carbon credits. We will utilize all resources at our disposal to begin the monumental task of rebuilding and replanting the lost Amazon Rain Forest," says Alexander.

Conversion Solutions, Inc., a diversified holdings company, engages in originating and sourcing funds for asset-based transactions in the private market. It provides funding and insurance to its target companies in the asset finance market. The company offers loans to and/or investment in small and medium-sized businesses by providing asset-based funding against marketable income producing and insurable assets. Conversion Solutions is based in Kennesaw, Georgia.

For a quote and the latest news on this company, please visit: http://www.*********.com/profiles/CSHD.php .

About *********.com:
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
2.04 ish next support level.

I Don't care [Big Grin]

Hoping for a late night PR about that Gov deal Rufus has going on [Smile]

He wasn't suppossed to get it till 5pm.

bump.


not bad, I'm showing a LOD at 2.03

rat would be proud! [Big Grin]
Posted this a while ago ruthie...


Am I proud of you Walker??? or Me???

Posted that yesterday...

It should hold.....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
anyone having trouble with TDAm streamer????

Seems like everybody is having trouble's, even with Scotty, and it seems to be with just CSHD!!

From what I'm seeing ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
2.04 ish next support level.

I Don't care [Big Grin]

Hoping for a late night PR about that Gov deal Rufus has going on [Smile]

He wasn't suppossed to get it till 5pm.

bump.


not bad, I'm showing a LOD at 2.03

rat would be proud! [Big Grin]
Posted this a while ago ruthie...


Am I proud of you Walker??? or Me???

Posted that yesterday...

It should hold.....

Yeah that was an easy one wasn't it! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

so where ya been ya pos?... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
wow, did anyone else see that 170K transaction???
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
hope that 2.04 support holds!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Lotta chit still on the plate....

My ma passed away last month and it has put the family into a marathon of fun...

We're gettin there...

TDAm won't let me connect to my streamer.... Starten to pizz me of...

The last time this happened all I had to do is re-log on....NOT WORKING THIS TIME>>>>

When the dust settles here, I am SOOOOOOO DONE with TDAM!!!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
sorry to hear about you mother rat.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
hope that 2.04 support holds!

170k shares traded on a down tick, looks like a sell! CRAP!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
lots of block trades at this level, she's gonna drop hard
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Isn't the market closed on Monday - Columbus Day?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Thanks Ryan!!!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
say hello to the sub 2's againg boys. F'n beautiful [Mad]
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
What does that filing mean????
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I think someone's doing a magic trick - my money's disappearing!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
what filing?
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Game Over. This is unraveling quickly. By next week back to .08 ? lol or $15.

I really should have dumped over 3.50, these OTCBB's are all the same, just a pack of lies lies lies
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
And this folks, is why they stressed getting certs. Cant sell now. [Wink]

Hope they are right about the thursday/friday news...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It is just a corrected form of the extension that was filed before.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
That's the biggest market order I've seen yet!

Pass the kool-aid as I put CSHD in front of BRK/A and watch as the ask goes to $99,700.00

The year is 2027, and Rufus is President of the WORLD.

rat... 1.75-ish?...

THANK GOD it's band practice tonight!!!
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
The NT 10k/a?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Same extension, but they needed to fix the dates!
MM's knew this was coming so they tried to create panick. Unreal!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rat... just read.

Heart goes out to you ~
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
nothing has changed as far as reasons for buying the stock, same co lower price, I like it
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Thanks Cassity that is what confused me, as it looked the exact same as the last one, i did not notice the change of dates!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
Game Over. This is unraveling quickly. By next week back to .08 ? lol or $15.

I really should have dumped over 3.50, these OTCBB's are all the same, just a pack of lies lies lies

You need to sell for GOOD for once! IMHO
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Nicely put Jmoove.

Rat, sorry to hear about your loss. I hope everything gets worked out for yall.

Uncle Smelly...you're just not sure about this thing are you [Smile] . Good luck to you!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
Game Over. This is unraveling quickly. By next week back to .08 ? lol or $15.

I really should have dumped over 3.50, these OTCBB's are all the same, just a pack of lies lies lies

Where?..

What proof do you have of that?

I can Prove MM's are azz's, -just venting I take it?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Support now at 1.75+ declining to 1.70_ EOD.....

Not what I wanna see!!!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Since this was during trading hours, I think this is part of the trap...watch for 10k soon IMO
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yep just changed from April to June...haha...the power that the MM's possess is amazing...amazing and disturbing all at the same time...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Hitting 1.94 support real hard. Looks like the volume is there to take this down [Frown]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Did this happen to allow some short covering? An amended 10K because of dates but many think it's a new extension. THe MM's take it down hard to create panic. THe price went down to 2.10 on 800K shares.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
OUCHIE, OUCHIE, OUCHIE......
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Keep your eyes out for NEWS!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
What dates were changed?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
What dates were changed?

Read the first one and then read the second one! Same form, new dates!
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
Can someone include the link so I can find it? Thanks!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm becoming very pessamistic about seeing news today. I hope it's some sort of setup but it's not feeling like one right now.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
We are in the middle of a battle here guys, the MM'/shorts have pulled out their riffles, but don't worry I see Rufus a comin' with his BAZOOKA!!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Wow this is getting destroyed, i wonder how far we are going to drop
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Here is a link:

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?symbol=CSHD
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by StockterDoLittle:
Can someone include the link so I can find it? Thanks!

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001297077%252D06%252D000070%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C10%255C05%255 C&symbol=CSHD
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Buying opportunity!!!

Stoopid ATurd, I'm done in the buying department [Frown] .
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
What does that filing mean????

Just did a compare they fixed the Date at the top that everyone pointed out was incorrect.

[Smile]

Here shorty come get the bait!!!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
All the way to the 50 RSI. If it falls beyond that then.............

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=DAILY&b=5&g=0&id=p
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well now I know how the people on the titantic felt [Frown]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
That is why it is a 10k/a n/t. It is a correction, just like a 8k/a is a amended 8k. Get it?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
What does that filing mean????

Just did a compare they fixed the Date at the top that everyone pointed out was incorrect.


Here shorty come get the bait!!!

Yes, I think you are right....I will watch for 10k sooner than later...this was a needed step to correct NT10k dates
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
They are gunna bounce that 1.75- area!!!!

Un F-ing real......

I had a hunch the other day....a small one....

I didn't think rufas would let it happen
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Can someone explain this 10k stuff you are talking about - what's going on, I don't get it?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Well, I'm glad I waited and loaded the rest of the boat today. Too bad it had to go this damn low.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
yeah, I'm beyond hurting, I feel sick!

"But I still believe"

Nothing "has" changed. They dropped the price like they've done a dozen times, so what.

[F%*#ers!]
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
Could a dollar be in our future?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by casviper:
Could a dollar be in our future?

There is a level on the charts around there....

Now thatwould hurt...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i knew the day my DTC went thru and my shares were untouchable it'd do this [Wink]

Rat, you think 1.75 is a decent support?

i wanna pick up more now that im free to buy nah nah nah nah goooooo gooooo wooo hoooooooo [Smile]


quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
They are gunna bounce that 1.75- area!!!!

Un F-ing real......

I had a hunch the other day....a small one....

I didn't think rufas would let it happen


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
how did you get that transfer so fast babe. Did you close out your entire ameritrade account.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
All trends green.. lets move! 1.98
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
from HSM
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=757563
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Gettin a bounce here.... That 1.80 was pretty cloce to support...

I hope I just drew my lines a little of mark to get that 1.75 number....

(wishful thinking) They will more than likely bring it down again...

My closing pick is 2.49
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
For some reason I am not sweating... this thing pounded on 1.80, and yet I am not sweating.


Unreal, I think CEO's should talk to Simon more often. Listen to Rufas, reading|between|the , and researching what is in my mind is really gonna happen here. I have "NO Doubt" that this is going to hit $70, and to be even writing that when the price is flailing at $1.95 and knowing with confidence that I am gonna be right. just tells me that there is no reason to sweat the MM's efforts to cover. I am glad I bought into this and I am glad I have been here with you guys/gals this entire time. Ooops the MM's slipped it just rebounded over 2.00... I wonder how much shorter they are now? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
Never mind about how many loose leaves they shook from the tree, question is how many loose branches fell too on this shake up? Im not going anywhere.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
right now rat I would be extatic with a close of 2.49 Hey after this is all done who's with me to take a field trip and just smack a bunch of mm's around j/k [Big Grin] well maybe not kidding
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Resistance at 2.40....MINOR
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
Nope i opened the new Merrill account (with a person, CMA acct)

DTC'd my shares, TDAm is expediting it cuz the girl feels bad about the CSHD scenario.

And added cash to my new merrill account so i can add to my position as needed.

nothing was sold.

but i may have just missed the LOD entry point blahhhhhhh

i think we hear from Rufus after hours today.

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
how did you get that transfer so fast babe. Did you close out your entire ameritrade account.


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
It's funny just last night Simon on subpenny was talking about trading on emotion. This is a classic example of that. Many did not bother to read the filing and assumed it was another extension and sold on emotion. They amended dates nothing more.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
Wish I had some more cash!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
It's funny just last night Simon on subpenny was talking about trading on emotion. This is a classic example of that. Many did not bother to read the filing and assumed it was another extension and sold on emotion. They amended dates nothing more.

GLTA
Wally

Wally, I think this whole thing was orchestrated. The MM's knew this was coming and they took advantage. I hope we get news tonight and all that sold are left out in the COLD!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JHenry:
Wish I had some more cash!

Me too.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
Shareholders stay calm. We all knew that as we get closer to the final hour for what we are waiting for that the shorts could get more desperate. Now is when you have to be strong and do not let your emotions take over. We will win this battle.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
agreed wally, but the only thing that concerns me is why they ammended it. I really hope they don't need the whole time, something tonight would be great to put this chaos to an end once and for all
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
It was ammended to fix the date. That is all.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Nice to have you on board again rat!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
well... pretty sure i'm going to close my bank of america account... a-holes...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
It's funny just last night Simon on subpenny was talking about trading on emotion. This is a classic example of that. Many did not bother to read the filing and assumed it was another extension and sold on emotion. They amended dates nothing more.

GLTA
Wally

Wally, I think this whole thing was orchestrated. The MM's knew this was coming and they took advantage. I hope we get news tonight and all that sold are left out in the COLD!
Of course it was orchestrated. I don't expect leopards to change their spots anymore than I expect MM's to take advantage of anything they can. MM's knew it was comming and took the PPS down From 2.50 area to 2.10 on 800K shares just before the Amendment came out. They set it up perfectly.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
man that was the time to add .....

Rat you say 2.49 close...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I think we are doing a pretty good job of "smacking them around" right here. No need for the vacation. Even if they just shook a million shares loose in that so called "huge" shake they still probably bought them back at more than what they shorted. Smack'em where it hurts. The pocket book.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
[Eek!] Wow...glad I missed that dip...although I had a buy order in for 1.95...that took in my absence...LOL...
OK...I'll go clean another bathroom...maybe when I come back this will be where it was this am... [Big Grin]

(Note to self...clean bathroom daily to raise PPS)
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
god i'm so heated right now with my bank... just got off the phone with them... "well hopefully it will be wired by 4..." hope you all had fun gathering shares and those prices... [Mad]
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Anybody think there might of been a reason why the initial extentsion might have had the wrong date on it [Wink] ?!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
actually my buy order is set at 1.76 GTC PRowds.

id be happy not to fill tho [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
man that was the time to add .....

Rat you say 2.49 close...

Ya!! That looks good...We will bounce of that 2.40 area a little bit maybe..... If we can get above 2.50,,,,, It may make a poke for the 2.80 area,,,,, I don't think that will hold up there today....

If anything is released before EOD,,,,,All bets ofs.... When this does run,,,It will be tough to chart out for awhile ...Me thinks!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Anybody think there might of been a reason why the initial extentsion might have had the wrong date on it [Wink] ?!

I am not going to fuel this conspiracy theory. But I will say this. If this plays out and I get filthy stinking rich... I still would not have enough money to feel comfortable to sit down and play a game of poker against Rufas. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
**GASPS for air**

Can i look at the screen again? [Big Grin]

Fudementals havent changed, all this does is piss me of more at ameriturd. If anyone else feels my pain, email me. I determined to do somthing about what TDa has done to us. (no spaces) d.kay * idiarchitect . com
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Gotta split gang!!!!

I'll check in later....

Long an strong!!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Tax if this plays out and we become stinking rich everyone of us will have earned every penny we made.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
later rat!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Rufas may have eyes on his butt is all I am saying. Because I am conviced they guy sees things long before they happen.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
bye and thx rat!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
So why amend the dates? Getting everything in order to move on to the next step. Clean up any details that may hold you back. I really don't expect anything from Rufus until later tonight. I believe he is waiting on the final NOBO and DTCC lists from the 29th. He mentioned that he should have them by 5 to 6PM EST. So I think we will hear something later tonight or early tommorrow.

Whoever pickup some cheap shares, NICE.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by mlfox on :
 
Hey all

New to this board and this topic looks like a good place to make my first post.

I'm new to this stock game. I wish I had found CSHD sooner so I wouldn't be sweating so much now. I am averaged in at 2.66.

I have been reading everything I can on this dude since July over the last 6 days and I like what I see as far as the fundamentals.

I hope this all works out like it should for all the long timers and us late comers.

GLTA
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
BB, Does Merill have online trading?


***** PRowds****I hate Bank of America*** Incompetant Crooks!!!!********
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
It is amazing watching these guys work..

One of the problems here is soo many people are emotionally shot they can't handle the pressure.
wow 43500 sell.. There goes someone
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mlfox:
Hey all

New to this board and this topic looks like a good place to make my first post.

I'm new to this stock game. I wish I had found CSHD sooner so I wouldn't be sweating so much now. I am averaged in at 2.66.

I have been reading everything I can on this dude since July over the last 6 days and I like what I see as far as the fundamentals.

I hope this all works out like it should for all the long timers and us late comers.

GLTA

Welcome aboard,

Im averaged in high too, but its a fun ride my friend.

You never know whos gonna get it stuck to em. Well either have millions of people lose thousands, or thousands of people lose millions. Not exactly, but you get the drift.

Hoping he keeps to his word and the ones long are prevail.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
yep surfer, this is amazing to watch. I've had $10K ready at the trigger for awhile but these guys are making it hard to find a good entry point. I think I'm just gonna wait till EOD to be safe...
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
quote:
Originally posted by mlfox:
Hey all

New to this board and this topic looks like a good place to make my first post.

I'm new to this stock game. I wish I had found CSHD sooner so I wouldn't be sweating so much now. I am averaged in at 2.66.

I have been reading everything I can on this dude since July over the last 6 days and I like what I see as far as the fundamentals.

I hope this all works out like it should for all the long timers and us late comers.

GLTA

Welcome aboard,

Im averaged in high too, but its a fun ride my friend.

You never know whos gonna get it stuck to em. Well either have millions of people lose thousands, or thousands of people lose millions. Not exactly, but you get the drift.

Hoping he keeps to his word and the ones long will prevail.


 
Posted by Murnak on :
 
cshd files NT 10-K/A
The Company is unable to prepare its 10-KSB within the prescribed time period because the Company is awaiting information to complete the audit of the combined financials..

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/filings.jsp?symbol=CSHD
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Tax if this plays out and we become stinking rich everyone of us will have earned every penny we made.

You bet we have...I have grey hairs over this... [Eek!]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ok here's the survey. I'll make it multiple option response.

Who's requested their certs already?

Who's waiting till after the reset to request their certs?

And who's still unsure on what they are doing?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i was away for lunch...but looking at my chart...

was there really a point in between 1:50 and 2:20 where there was no volume? on my etrade pro it shows absolutly no volume...

edit: nevermind...while my computer was locked it just didn't refresh...
 
Posted by mlfox on :
 
This thing is definitely one wild ride. I am using my Tunica Poker money on this one. The risk/reward ratio is just to great. I figure if it is all BS then I'm only losing what I probably would have on a no limit table, but I don't think I could gain as much playing poker as I can on this, when this thing explodes.

Thanks to everyone for their contributions. I have learned a lot about trading in the last few months lurking in the shadows. Hopefully I will be able to make some positive contributions in the future.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Ok, let me return to my evil ways for a sec....

I keep hearing Bruce Springsteen in my head while watching this stock...

 -

"You used to love to drive me wild
But lately girl you get your kicks from just driving me
down, down, down down,
I'm going down, down, down, down,
I'm going down, down, down, down
I'm going down, down, down"
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Murnak:
cshd files NT 10-K/A
The Company is unable to prepare its 10-KSB within the prescribed time period because the Company is awaiting information to complete the audit of the combined financials..

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/filings.jsp?symbol=CSHD

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFin
Compare:

ORIGINAL

AMENDED

Notice how at the top, the dates after "For the period ended:" are different?

This is the only difference!!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Guys, some of this stuff is over my head but isn't this something we've seen before, if you go to the bottom the date is the 29th, so why is this "news" today?


quote:
Originally posted by Murnak:
cshd files NT 10-K/A
The Company is unable to prepare its 10-KSB within the prescribed time period because the Company is awaiting information to complete the audit of the combined financials..

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/filings.jsp?symbol=CSHD


 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok, let me return to my evil ways for a sec....

I keep hearing Bruce Springsteen in my head while watching this stock...

 -

"You used to love to drive me wild
But lately girl you get your kicks from just driving me
down, down, down down,
I'm going down, down, down, down,
I'm going down, down, down, down
I'm going down, down, down"

I don't like you.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
by the way guys www.cvsu.us works again I haven't noticed anything new yet.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
I got 80% of mine in certs Ryan

pro's- no doubt that I won my shares, help in the squeeze, CSHD has my name and I receive all the benefits Rufus has disclosed

con's- this thing tanks, no reset, I am unable to sell because it takes 4 weeks to receive my certs

the choice is yours alone, the way I see it, it's a 50-50 shot. I'm a gambler!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
lmao.... You could'nt help yourself could ya Repo! ha ~~

But remember..

"He who laughs last!..." [Big Grin]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
ok here's the survey. I'll make it multiple option response.

Who's requested their certs already?

Who's waiting till after the reset to request their certs?

And who's still unsure on what they are doing?

I still have not decided...probably too late anyway.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
chart where are we going from here... sideways then.....
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
 -
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Take this FWIW:
If anyone else can verify that would be great.

(12:31 PM) xlr8rs: True story: We had friends who got in yesterday. When the husband went to Fidelity to buy, his broker told him that this one was a good one to get into because it was going to NASDAQ. The broker had something indicating that the filings had been made for CSHD to go to NASDAQ.

- Paltalk scroll.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
when did they update the Equine Solutions, Inc
pictures and pedigrees and all...

quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
by the way guys www.cvsu.us works again I haven't noticed anything new yet.


 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
I got 80% of mine in certs Ryan

pro's- no doubt that I won my shares, help in the squeeze, CSHD has my name and I receive all the benefits Rufus has disclosed

con's- this thing tanks, no reset, I am unable to sell because it takes 4 weeks to receive my certs

the choice is yours alone, the way I see it, it's a 50-50 shot. I'm a gambler!

But do you really care about access to real time financials? If you have a set price to sell at, why get certs? If this gets reset I don't see how there is anyway that people who don't have certs dont get the reset price. I'll stay liquid in this one, till I see a requirement from Rufus.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
Take this FWIW:
If anyone else can very that would be great.

(12:31 PM) xlr8rs: True story: We had friends who got in yesterday. When the husband went to Fidelity to buy, his broker told him that this one was a good one to get into because it was going to NASDAQ. The broker had something indicating that the filings had been made for CSHD to go to NASDAQ.


Thats what I'm talking about BIOOTCH. Thanks MN
- Paltalk scroll.


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Too funny!!

quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
 -


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm still trying to see what rat was with the 2.49 EOD prediction...

That's BALLS! (love it!)

Well, at a glance just looking at a scotty bar chart, 5 min, I'd say if we don't get past the last high of that run up, which was 2.16, then we cycle down, otherwise rat's EOD comes right into play and I'll publicly have to say he's the CHIT!! [Big Grin]

HOPE I DO have to do that!! lol ~~ [Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Too funny!!

quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
 -


That's no way to insult CSHD stockholders...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
When you go to the site, and click on JV & sub's there is POINT, CLICK, DREAM, was that on there before?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Too funny!!

quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
 -


That's no way to insult CSHD stockholders...
repo that was aimed at you....you're not a cshd shareholder.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jenna...they simply changed the date from the one that was filed last week...take a look at the NT 10k that was filed last week...

quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys, some of this stuff is over my head but isn't this something we've seen before, if you go to the bottom the date is the 29th, so why is this "news" today?


quote:
Originally posted by Murnak:
cshd files NT 10-K/A
The Company is unable to prepare its 10-KSB within the prescribed time period because the Company is awaiting information to complete the audit of the combined financials..

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/filings.jsp?symbol=CSHD



 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Too funny!!

quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
[img] ttp://i12.tinypic.com/4497wa1.jpg [/img]


That's no way to insult CSHD stockholders...
repo that was aimed at you....you're not a cshd shareholder.
Oh okay... good luck when it hits $1.60 tomorrow.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Thanx 10!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Too funny!!

quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
[img] ttp://i12.tinypic.com/4497wa1.jpg [/img]


That's no way to insult CSHD stockholders...
repo that was aimed at you....you're not a cshd shareholder.
Oh okay... good luck when it hits $1.60 tomorrow.
Once again....oh nevermind I'm not wasting my time on you anymore.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
I got 80% of mine in certs Ryan

pro's- no doubt that I won my shares, help in the squeeze, CSHD has my name and I receive all the benefits Rufus has disclosed

con's- this thing tanks, no reset, I am unable to sell because it takes 4 weeks to receive my certs

the choice is yours alone, the way I see it, it's a 50-50 shot. I'm a gambler!

But do you really care about access to real time financials? If you have a set price to sell at, why get certs? If this gets reset I don't see how there is anyway that people who don't have certs dont get the reset price. I'll stay liquid in this one, till I see a requirement from Rufus.
I got certs because of option B on the reset. I don't plan on selling at reset but if B is exercised I don't have a choice (if I understand correctly). Even if that's wrong...I'm not going to leave my fate up to Aturd or any other discount broker. If they get squeezed they will screw their customers first and without hesitation IMO.

I simply chose to remove on of two scenarios where I get F'd. Now I only have to deal with one: this is not the deal it appears to be and we tank. I can live with that. Luckily I don't have more riding than I can afford to say "bye bye" to.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
hey chart...you watchin this? somebody's gonna be pologizing,lol... [Razz]

also...on your L2 do you see BKRT on the ask at 2.02, and the fact that it hasn't budged...
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
OK, how's this one? When you log into cvsu notice the little symbol in the upper left in your url address (forget what that is called). It's the letter N... any signifigance or was that there before?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yes it's called merrill direct.

merrilldirect.ml.com

you can do that directly online, or u can have a CMA acct which has a person in an office full service dedicated to u.

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
BB, Does Merill have online trading?


***** PRowds****I hate Bank of America*** Incompetant Crooks!!!!********


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Repo ~ that is a good song, but my story trumps that. Just ran across the street to the fast food joint to grab lunch. My wife left the radio on an obscure station that just plays music all day, odd but remberable stuff from 70's to the 90's.

The entire trip to get my sandwich and back was the theme song for Micheal J. Fox's 80's movie, "The Secret of my Success". You know where the Mid-western boy makes it big on Wallstreet!

Sounded like a message to me, and now I got that song stuck in my head.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I think that would be the only way to force the shorts to cover.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Very sad, a few people sold when they saw the NT/10ka and started to sell. The MMs used it to their advantage walked it down and tricked many people to loose alot of money.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
exactly sandusky, I'm looking out for me because I would not trust any broker if this thing breaks lose
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Thanx BB!

Tax that's weird, I beleive in signs!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
So could Rufus possibly be expecting approval to move to NASDAQ, say in a document before 5PM?
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
So could Rufus possibly be expecting approval to move to NASDAQ, say in a document before 5PM?

no, we havent met any of the ways to list on the nasdaq.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Nice thought Sherri!! Is that how it works?
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
OK, how's this one? When you log into cvsu notice the little symbol in the upper left in your url address (forget what that is called). It's the letter N... any signifigance or was that there before?


 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
So could Rufus possibly be expecting approval to move to NASDAQ, say in a document before 5PM?

no, we havent met any of the ways to list on the nasdaq.
Maybe not all, but we have met at least one - a MM to back us....
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Too funny!!

quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
[img] ttp://i12.tinypic.com/4497wa1.jpg [/img]


That's no way to insult CSHD stockholders...
repo that was aimed at you....you're not a cshd shareholder.
Oh okay... good luck when it hits $1.60 tomorrow.
Once again....oh nevermind I'm not wasting my time on you anymore.
 -


So, we're pretty much friends by now, right?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Repo? Is that a picture of you? [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i have to admit Repo...that was kinda funny...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Listing Requirements for All Companies Rule 4420
Each company must have a minimum of 1.1 million publicly-traded shares upon listing, excluding those held by officers, directors or any beneficial owners of more then 10% of the company. The minimum bid price of the stock upon listing must be at least $5. Each listing firm is also required to follow Nasdaq Corporate Governance rules 4350, 4351 and 4360. Companies must also have at least 400 shareholders. A shareholder is defined by Nasdaq as a holder of over 100 shares.

Requirement Rule 4420 (a)
The company must have a minimum shareholder equity of $15 million. The operating income from either the last fiscal year, or two of the last three years, must total a minimum of $1 million. The company must have a minimum of three market makers that will provide liquidity to the trading of their stock. The market value of the publicly-held shares upon trading must be worth at least $8 million.

Requirement Rule 4420 (b)
The company must have a minimum shareholder equity of $30 million. The market value of the shares traded must be at least $18 million upon listing. The company also has to have a minimum operating history of two years. It is also required to have three market makers. What can be seen here is that if a company did not earn enough to meet the operating income minimum, they need to have greater shareholder equity and a larger market value.

Requirement Rule 4420 (c)
Under this requirement companies must have at least $75 million in total assets, total revenue, or listed securities. Listed securities as defined by the Nasdaq are securities listed on either a Nasdaq or another national exchange. The market value of the shares upon listing must be worth at least $20 million. They are also required to add an additional market maker for a total of four market makers.

A company has three ways to get listed on the Nasdaq depending on the underlying fundamentals of the company. If a company does not meet certain criteria such as the operating income minimum, it has to make it up with larger minimum amounts in another area like revenue. This helps to improve the quality of companies listed on the exchange.

It doesn't end there: after a company gets listed on the market, it must maintain certain standards to continue trading. Failure to meet the specifications set out by the stock exchange will result in its delisting. Falling below the minimum required share price, or market capitalization, is one of the major factors triggering a delisting. Again, the exact details of delisting depend on the exchange.

(For further reading on the Nasdaq and other U.S. exchanges, see Getting to Know Stock Exchanges and The Tale Of Two Exchanges.)
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
So does anyone know for sure if certs are required if the company chooses option B?

Still want to stay liquid, but don't want to be screwed
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Repo ~ that is a good song, but my story trumps that. Just ran across the street to the fast food joint to grab lunch. My wife left the radio on an obscure station that just plays music all day, odd but remberable stuff from 70's to the 90's.

The entire trip to get my sandwich and back was the theme song for Micheal J. Fox's 80's movie, "The Secret of my Success". You know where the Mid-western boy makes it big on Wallstreet!

Sounded like a message to me, and now I got that song stuck in my head.

[Big Grin]

The best song to listen to after you've made money in the market is the song from Wall Street by the Talking Heads called "This must be the place (naive melody)". It comes on when he is looking to buy the apt. in NYC and the real estate agent is hassling him and he says "Ok, bid $950K..." and then decorates it in that Yuppie style. Always makes me feel like a million bucks, but you have to only listen to it AFTER making money... which some of you haven't done here yet.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
4420(c) looks justifiable...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
hey chart...you watchin this? somebody's gonna be pologizing,lol... [Razz]

also...on your L2 do you see BKRT on the ask at 2.02, and the fact that it hasn't budged...

pologizing...????
Congratulating you mean!

Don't know how he came up with it doesn't mean I disagree!! Nope!

NOT gonna bet against rat anyday!! ha ~~

AND...

TECHNICALLY rat could still be right, we did break the 2.16, we appear to have hit bottom which was ABOVE the last bottom so it could run again.... If she breaks above 2.17 now.... etc...

-now this is just looking at a bar chart here, NO indicators FYI...

now what's this about BKRT? --???!!!

You mean BRK/A ??
Heck they are at $99,110.00 and a HOD is $100,100.00 wow!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Thanx BB!

Tax that's weird, I beleive in signs!

I not a big signs person, but maybe I should be. Because the last time I went across the street for a sandwich was the day we hit $4.00 and I can say the music that day was almost just as inspiring. TNT by AC/DC!

Cause I'm T.N.T., I'm dynamite!
(T.N.T.) And I'll win the fight!
(T.N.T.) I'm a power load!
(T.N.T.) watch me explooooode!

When the price is climbing fast that song will make you run back to you computer.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...i was refering to him being right, lol...

and yes...it appears to be closing up nicely for a move up...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
So could Rufus possibly be expecting approval to move to NASDAQ, say in a document before 5PM?

no, we havent met any of the ways to list on the nasdaq.
How do you know that stock, what if what Rufus has in front of him qualifies them. We have NO idea what the company has up their sleeve. I personally trust the individual who posted the post that mnvestor posted. Do what you will. On a side note, what if Rufus has everything ready for the 10k to be filed. What if as soon as he receives the document today, they are able to put it out. Just a thought GLTY
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
ANYONE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS? Thanks...

quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
[qb] OK, how's this one? When you log into cvsu notice the little symbol in the upper left in your url address (forget what that is called). It's the letter N... any signifigance or was that there before?


 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Looks like we meet this requirement:

Requirement Rule 4420 (c)
Under this requirement companies must have at least $75 million in total assets, total revenue, or listed securities. Listed securities as defined by the Nasdaq are securities listed on either a Nasdaq or another national exchange. The market value of the shares upon listing must be worth at least $20 million. They are also required to add an additional market maker for a total of four market makers.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Nel, I don't understand what you are seeing???
I don't see a letter N any where...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
are BKRT and TASL on crack or are they just in denial?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
So could Rufus possibly be expecting approval to move to NASDAQ, say in a document before 5PM?

no, we havent met any of the ways to list on the nasdaq.
How do you know that stock, what if what Rufus has in front of him qualifies them. We have NO idea what the company has up their sleeve. I personally trust the individual who posted the post that mnvestor posted. Do what you will. On a side note, what if Rufus has everything ready for the 10k to be filed. What if as soon as he receives the document today, they are able to put it out. Just a thought GLTY
You can't just announce out of the blue "Hey, we're going to the NASDAQ!" like you're announcing you're going to Disneyland. There are requirements and filings (public) that must be done beforehand. Stock is right... none of the requirements have been met.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.

GLTA
Wally

Wally This is huge imo!!!
Now to find a SEC rule for this!!!!

SOMEONE!!
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
I'll see if I can post a screen grab. Never done it before.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.


GLTA
Wally

Wally This is huge imo!!!
Now to find a SEC rule for this!!!!

SOMEONE!!

Yes, this is true. The TA and DTC would need to take inventory of all outstanding shares.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.


GLTA
Wally

Wally This is huge imo!!!
Now to find a SEC rule for this!!!!

SOMEONE!!

Yes, this is true. The TA and DTC would need to take inventory of all outstanding shares.
BINGO!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
That has been my concern for getting the Certs...I am hoping that I have covered enough emails and faxes to and from my brokers to make it very clear that I own the shares and that they never got a FTD on my shares...AND Rufaus said on the subpenny radio that the company would "take care of us" if we contacted them...It was one of my questions that Simon asked towards the end of the program...it's on tape...I hope I am covered...


quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.


GLTA
Wally

Wally This is huge imo!!!
Now to find a SEC rule for this!!!!

SOMEONE!!

Yes, this is true. The TA and DTC would need to take inventory of all outstanding shares.

 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
Take this FWIW:
If anyone else can very that would be great.

(12:31 PM) xlr8rs: True story: We had friends who got in yesterday. When the husband went to Fidelity to buy, his broker told him that this one was a good one to get into because it was going to NASDAQ. The broker had something indicating that the filings had been made for CSHD to go to NASDAQ.

- Paltalk scroll.

Like you MNV...I have yet to see XL lie.

This would not surprise me either way. I think it will go. As to if this is what Rufus is waiting on I do not know.
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Here's the image (I hope). Notice the small green N icon before the url...

 -
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
That has been my concern for getting the Certs...I am hoping that I have covered enough emails and faxes to and from my brokers to make it very clear that I own the shares and that they never got a FTD on my chares...


quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.


GLTA
Wally

Wally This is huge imo!!!
Now to find a SEC rule for this!!!!

SOMEONE!!

Yes, this is true. The TA and DTC would need to take inventory of all outstanding shares.

YOU CAN'T GET A FTD AFTER 3 DAYS (SETTLEMENT) AFTER TRADING. Stop worrying about that already. They are yours, period. And certs has nothing to do with it.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
it is called a Favicon. and it is simply programmed into the page.
why they chose that image as their favicon?

no idea.

but unless it is a firefox symbol, ie symbol or netscape symbol it is custom programmed...

hit amazon, you'll see they have one too.

N hrmmmm

im off for the rest of the day. looks like my 1.76 aint gotta chance!

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
ANYONE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS? Thanks...

quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
[qb] OK, how's this one? When you log into cvsu notice the little symbol in the upper left in your url address (forget what that is called). It's the letter N... any signifigance or was that there before?


quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
Here's the image (I hope). Notice the small green N icon before the url...

 -


 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
Here's the image (I hope). Notice the small green N icon before the url...

 -

i use firefox...most websites have those...it's just whatever that company decides to put there...for instance...allstocks uses and lightbulb...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
very big orders going through above the ask
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
You can kick CSHD, bash CSHD, lie about CSHD, create panic about CSHD and it still comes back.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Repo you just made my day!!

So now we have solid proof that ""IF"" this goes down then FINALLY they will be FORCED to cover!!

O....M....G!!!!!
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
I know these are usually "custom" my thoughts exactly. WHY THE N?

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
it is called a Favicon. and it is simply programmed into the page.
why they chose that image as their favicon?

no idea.

but unless it is a firefox symbol, ie symbol or netscape symbol it is custom programmed...

hit amazon, you'll see they have one too.

N hrmmmm

im off for the rest of the day. looks like my 1.76 aint gotta chance!

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
ANYONE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS? Thanks...

quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
[qb] OK, how's this one? When you log into cvsu notice the little symbol in the upper left in your url address (forget what that is called). It's the letter N... any signifigance or was that there before?


quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
Here's the image (I hope). Notice the small green N icon before the url...

 -



 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I don't show that Nel...


AND repo...don't yell at me...with this particular play...ain't nothin' the way it posta be!
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I don't show that Nel...

I use Safari on a mac
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
N = NAZ [Big Grin] [Big Grin] ???? I don't know ~
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I don't show that Nel...


AND repo...don't yell at me...with this particular play...ain't nothin' the way it posta be!

What do you mean? Nothing crazy about this play so far... and it's not like PAIV where somebody screwed up and some rule was broken. The only relevant issue here is the short position in my mind... this whole "reset" of prices is just crazy talk.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Mine shows the blue "E"
Just the difference in our systems?

quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I don't show that Nel...

I use Safari on a mac

 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
10of 13 ~ I think you are right I think they updated the 2007 Foals on Equine Solutions page. There are alot more foals listed than the one listing I saw last week.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
http://www.waatle.com/1318546.html

purdy...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
NEL are you using Netscape? because Mine shows the internet Explorer "e".
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
No Repo...this one is different...look at the games that have been played by stock lemon M N 1 and our street...this game is different...
I'm new to stocks and you've been around for a while...you should be able to see it more than me...AND? if I am wrong? I've already made and cashed out over %2000 of my original investment...it's all good!


quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I don't show that Nel...


AND repo...don't yell at me...with this particular play...ain't nothin' the way it posta be!

What do you mean? Nothing crazy about this play so far... and it's not like PAIV where somebody screwed up and some rule was broken. The only relevant issue here is the short position in my mind... this whole "reset" of prices is just crazy talk.

 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Nel, I don't have the "N", but I don't have a lightbulb for allstocks either. I'm using explorer btw.

As for the other website stuff. The horse info has been on there for a long time. The Point, Click, Dream link has been up for a couple of weeks I believe. They still haven't added it to the flash site though.
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
No, I am using Safari on a mac!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
NEL are you using Netscape? because Mine shows the internet Explorer "e".


 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
No Repo...this one is different...look at the games that have been played by stock lemon M N 1 and our street...this game is different...
I'm new to stocks and you've been around for a while...you should be able to see it more than me...AND? if I am wrong? I've already made and cashed out over %2000 of my original investment...it's all good!


quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I don't show that Nel...


AND repo...don't yell at me...with this particular play...ain't nothin' the way it posta be!

What do you mean? Nothing crazy about this play so far... and it's not like PAIV where somebody screwed up and some rule was broken. The only relevant issue here is the short position in my mind... this whole "reset" of prices is just crazy talk.

For those who have not....read and do as 10 does. If you did not do it this play...make sure you do it on your next.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
ok here's the survey. I'll make it multiple option response.

Who's requested their certs already?

Who's waiting till after the reset to request their certs?

And who's still unsure on what they are doing?

I guess I still fall into the "unsure on what they are doing" camp. I don't see any reason why it would matter if you have certs, except for your name being on the book. I'm still thinking that the borkers have to honor your shares. I also can't see how people who hold certs can get anything (like a dividend) while those of us in street name don't receive the same. After saying all of this...I'm still unsure of it all though!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
acending triangle..........

Come on rat!!!!

See it crab?!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Reset...

yes we have all read the SEC rule about the price reset...

If someone has it post it for Repo to look at ~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
did you see this description? LOL..."Brick Crap house"...

Miss Reys Wagon



2003 Bay Mare



She is built like a brick crap house


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
10of 13 ~ I think you are right I think they updated the 2007 Foals on Equine Solutions page. There are alot more foals listed than the one listing I saw last week.


 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
acending triangle..........

Come on rat!!!!

See it crab?!!

yep...saw it when we dipped to 2.07 around 2:55, after it started that uptrend I knew it was coming...
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
20 minutes.. whats everyones EOD guesstimations?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
2.11
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
-wonderful, have to go take care of some business... brb (I hope!!) [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I think we will get some buying pressure and close in the 2.25 to 2.30 range


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
2.23
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm going with 2.36
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
2.17 bob.
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
2.20
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
45775 buy
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
I saya maybea 2.31a
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Darn you caught me buying!
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Looks like nice EOD run coming!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Listening to Simon's replay from last night he said he didn't want to see a close below 2.35 support, so i am going with 2.35... [Smile]
 
Posted by Mantux on :
 
2.27 is my guess
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
2.15
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
wow, it took about 10min to buy 5K EOD at 2.22, then they drop it, crooks
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
get em while you can
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I guess 2.20
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
man..we should have betted on the close..hehe
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
i'm going with 2.36

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
And the actual retail price.. $2.20.

aurfer cheated.
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Come on Rufus ….let’s see the 10-K !!!!!!!!!! ………….. Pretty Please……..Granted, I like to play poker myself….but…..now let’s see the “call” and was is in the hand by way of the g’d ole SEC filing!!!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
...note from Etrade on certs...

Please allow seven to ten business days from the time we receive your request for the shares to be removed from your account and sent to the transfer agent. The transfer agent will then issue the certificate to you directly. The normal timeframe for the entire process is four to six weeks from the submission of your request. E*TRADE Securities charges a fee of $40 for each certificate requested to help cover processing costs.

Please don't tell me that it's $40 a piece??? They mean per "order" correct? 4-6 weeks is a hell of a long time to be in no-mans-land. Not so sure this is a good idea for me.
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
WTF 300,000 trade * 2.05 they did not show that when it was tanking did they!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yes you will get 1 piece of paper that shows the number of shares you own stated on that one sheet of paper...all for 40 bucks!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
...note from Etrade on certs...

Please allow seven to ten business days from the time we receive your request for the shares to be removed from your account and sent to the transfer agent. The transfer agent will then issue the certificate to you directly. The normal timeframe for the entire process is four to six weeks from the submission of your request. E*TRADE Securities charges a fee of $40 for each certificate requested to help cover processing costs.

Please don't tell me that it's $40 a piece??? They mean per "order" correct? 4-6 weeks is a hell of a long time to be in no-mans-land. Not so sure this is a good idea for me.


 
Posted by Vin on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 10of13:
[QB] Yes you will get 1 piece of paper that shows the number of shares you own stated on that one sheet of paper...all for 40 bucks!!!


Such a deal! [Wink]
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
It's $40 per certificate, one cert can be for any number of shares.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 10of13:
[QB] Yes you will get 1 piece of paper that shows the number of shares you own stated on that one sheet of paper...all for 40 bucks!!! <----didn't do that right, did I???


Such a deal! [Wink]


 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
At $600000 wonder if that was an institutional buy? Anyone know when those buys are updated on the institutional list to check it?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
They didn't show that 310,000 buy...sell... whatever... somebody got a few shares.

Expect the manipulation to continue.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Dog are you feeling better?

quote:
Originally posted by dog:
They didn't show that 310,000 buy...sell... whatever... somebody got a few shares.

Expect the manipulation to continue.


 
Posted by dog on :
 
A little... still have the headache... feel like somebody worked me over with a baseball bat... damn flu.

Without the virus... this manipulation alone would make me sick.

I'm getting more and more detached from the PPS by the day.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
[Confused] Vin you're a nut...LOL...
Dog...the PPS will get better...just like you will... [Wink]
Later guys...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
It was probably AMTRD buying those shares... LOL
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
No fair !!! You guys can't pick the EOD 5 mins before EOD>>>LOL

It sounds like it made a run for the higher end and got squashed EOD.... Oh Well!!!

It is dead nuts centered between support and resistance at close....

Believe it or not,,,,,that close poped into my mind..... I was just bein optimistic when it was at 1.80...

Nice call gang... We'll get um..

Later!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.

GLTA
Wally

Sorry Wally i was a bit busy earlier so i did not get to answer this... but the answer is simple.

On NASDAQ short rules are much different. The books have to balance. If we go to NASDAQ "ALL" shorts must cover in 48 hours. If by miriacle or magic Rufas pulls this off. We will be witness to the squeeze play of the century. Each and every one of our shares will be etched in the rarest of minerals, outlined in diamonds. The investor that sells to them cheap will be making a huge mistake.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Any thoughts as to when this miracle will happen tax????

Is there sumpthin posted earlier that indicates that this will happen soon???

I have been away from the board for a few hours....

thanks..
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.

GLTA
Wally

Sorry Wally i was a bit busy earlier so i did not get to answer this... but the answer is simple.

On NASDAQ short rules are much different. The books have to balance. If we go to NASDAQ "ALL" shorts must cover in 48 hours. If by miriacle or magic Rufas pulls this off. We will be witness to the squeeze play of the century. Each and every one of our shares will be etched in the rarest of minerals, outlined in diamonds. The investor that sells to them cheap will be making a huge mistake.

But Tax, does that not hinge on the fact that the shares we believe we hold are "real". Considering the numbers I've heard floating about refering to the number of FTD's pertaining to this stock, is it not safe to say that a good number of our shares are nothing but air?

For the record I'm not an experienced trader, I'm asking this question out of a sincere desire to learn.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Thats a good Q Spooky!!!

That same point is what has been jerkin' my chain all week...

Problem is.... I DON"T KNOW THE ANSWER>>>
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Thats a good Q Spooky!!!

That same point is what has been jerkin' my chain all week...

Problem is.... I DON"T KNOW THE ANSWER>>>

This is why I pulled certs...
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Did anyone say Dividends!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just came across this from the peeps at Paltalk!!!
http://www.profitspi.com/stock-quote/cshd.aspx
Bu bye Shorties!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Ya!!! I hear ya Sandusky...

I find it hard to believe that all the huge block trades that have gone thru today,,will all be screwed....

I'm just having trouble gettin a grip on that...

Bye the way....Does your screen name have anything to do with the city in Ohio??
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Nothing to do with Ohio at all...didn't know there was a city.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Hmmm back to the cert stuff...It seems a bit contradicting.

Say we don't pull certs and CSHD goes to the NASD on Monday. The shorters have 48 hours to cover according to Taxback. If certs are actually needed to get your $$$, then it would seem like the shorts wouldn't need to cover. They would just let those without certs get screwed.

This would not cause a squeeze if this is the case, but everyone still seems to believe there will be a big squeeze with the shorts covering. If the shorts cover, then all of the shares will be real shares and the certs won't seem to matter.

The only thing I can see here is that those with certs won't be able to sale...thus maybe a much higher priced squeeze.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Sandusky Ohio...It is between Toledo and Cleveland...

Home of "Cedar Point" The biggest Coaster park in the world... Good fishin and other fun there too..
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Any thoughts as to when this miracle will happen tax????

Is there sumpthin posted earlier that indicates that this will happen soon???

I have been away from the board for a few hours....

thanks..

Well Rat other that the usual speculation I would say the only concrete evidence we have was a PR recently where Rufas stated that they had approached an MM for the listing.

I am calling it miracle/magic because I am being very cautious as to Rufas's ability to list this company on the NASDAQ exchange that quickly.

Now with that being said I thought a while ago I heard that TWA was an example of a large company that listed through 386 reverse merger into a shell company. If that is true it might be worth it to go and see if we can dig up any info that might point to how long it took TWA to list following the reset. I would think the procedure would be a fair amount easier than the complex IPO. It may be as simple as a reset over $5 and completeing the filings. Why, because if you don't live up to the standards and requirements NASDAQ always has the ability to delist you and send you back to the OTCBB. Do they not?
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Did anyone say Dividends!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just came across this from the peeps at Paltalk!!!
http://www.profitspi.com/stock-quote/cshd.aspx
Bu bye Shorties!!!

What's that about..Dividend date 10/13/2006???

Hmmm LOOKS CORRECT! I changed the symbol from CSHD to GWGO to verify and it showed the GWGO dividend that happenned last week. 9/30/06. That did happen last week so I'm thinking KaChing on the 13th!

VERY INTERESTING!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Shorts have to cover no matter what.. Theres no way the banks going to go "oh here, we have the shares in the pool and we're over allocated, we'll just give them to you."

Its not going to be a "free for all" with the stock and ownership.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Hmmm back to the cert stuff...It seems a bit contradicting.

Say we don't pull certs and CSHD goes to the NASD on Monday. The shorters have 48 hours to cover according to Taxback. If certs are actually needed to get your $$$, then it would seem like the shorts wouldn't need to cover. They would just let those without certs get screwed.

This would not cause a squeeze if this is the case, but everyone still seems to believe there will be a big squeeze with the shorts covering. If the shorts cover, then all of the shares will be real shares and the certs won't seem to matter.

The only thing I can see here is that those with certs won't be able to sale...thus maybe a much higher priced squeeze.

EXACTLY!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Did anyone say Dividends!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just came across this from the peeps at Paltalk!!!
http://www.profitspi.com/stock-quote/cshd.aspx
Bu bye Shorties!!!

what are they saying ima???
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Did anyone say Dividends!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just came across this from the peeps at Paltalk!!!
http://www.profitspi.com/stock-quote/cshd.aspx
Bu bye Shorties!!!

Friday the 13th might be a bad day for shortie
Wonder what the Divi might be and how it will be paid out??
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Nice find Ima! Makes you wonder about everything.

Big question: Can they give a dividend to those holding certs and not those who hold in street name?

I would think not, but I'm pretty new to this and everything so far doesn't seem like usual Wall Street practices.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spooky:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.

GLTA
Wally

Sorry Wally i was a bit busy earlier so i did not get to answer this... but the answer is simple.

On NASDAQ short rules are much different. The books have to balance. If we go to NASDAQ "ALL" shorts must cover in 48 hours. If by miriacle or magic Rufas pulls this off. We will be witness to the squeeze play of the century. Each and every one of our shares will be etched in the rarest of minerals, outlined in diamonds. The investor that sells to them cheap will be making a huge mistake.

But Tax, does that not hinge on the fact that the shares we believe we hold are "real". Considering the numbers I've heard floating about refering to the number of FTD's pertaining to this stock, is it not safe to say that a good number of our shares are nothing but air?

For the record I'm not an experienced trader, I'm asking this question out of a sincere desire to learn.

I believe it will be easier to sort out the real from the unreal than we all think. I have to think the major brokerages keep better records than we are seeing from the NOBO. They run internal audits like most people change their socks. I bet they know who is solid and who isn't... AMTD may be in trouble, because their gut reaction a month ago tells me they ran their books and found a possible problem with their customers holding CSHD.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
wow guys check out the email I just got back from ameritrade. This is in response to an email I sent earlier today. I feel so much better right now.

Mr. XXXXXXXXX,

Please accept my apologies regarding the previous correspondence related to the NOBO list. According to our records, I show that you are on the list of NOBO for CSHD.

Laurie W.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.

This was a response to this email I sent them

I understand why you hold my shares in street name. I however don't understand how I can't be placed on a NOBO list it seems like a violation of SEC rule 14b-1(c). Which states:


Under rule 14b-1(c) of the Securities Exchange Act, we are required to disclose to an issuer the name, address, and securities position of our customers who are beneficial owners of that issuer's securities unless the customer objects.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Rich, we don't all know what to think of it yet... just trying to figure it out
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Friday the 13th...wonder if Rufus saw that on the calendar and decided to delay the 10k just so he could screw the shorters on Friday the 13th [Smile] .
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
think of what??? Is CSHD paying a dividend to its shareholders??
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Nice find Ima! Makes you wonder about everything.

Big question: Can they give a dividend to those holding certs and not those who hold in street name?

I would think not, but I'm pretty new to this and everything so far doesn't seem like usual Wall Street practices.

I'm just a relayer of info at this point.
Yes those are big questions.
I'm glad I got some certs on the way but also glad I have quick acces to others... Bummed that when I flipped a little it dipped into my shares I've been holding since FHAL days [Frown]
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
think of what??? Is CSHD paying a dividend to its shareholders??

It's seems that way...
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
the answer is yes. If your shares are held in your brokerage account, then you recieve your dividend in your account. As far as certs go they probably send the dividend to your address on record(where your certs were sent).
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
who is stating their will be a dividend ima??? sorry, still confused
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I know IMA found it, and I know it looks to be real... BUT... until Rufas tells us about it, I would not get tooooo... excited. {whispers: waahoo!}
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Where is MY PR!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
You can put almost any stock symbol in there and it gives a dividen date....I think that it is incorrect in assuming that they are giving a dividen date. almost seems the date is for the next fling...try it....put in a different symbol...I put in IGAI...and it showed the date of October 16...but they aren't given a divie...
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
think of what??? Is CSHD paying a dividend to its shareholders??

It's seems that way...

 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Did anyone say Dividends!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just came across this from the peeps at Paltalk!!!
http://www.profitspi.com/stock-quote/cshd.aspx
Bu bye Shorties!!!

Friday the 13th might be a bad day for shortie
Wonder what the Divi might be and how it will be paid out??

bump
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
I think he will release the 10K and reset before they release any news of a dividend...JMO see everyone tomorrow!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
for everyone that's worried about being on the nobo list which I believe was the big thing for rufus that's how they can find out who you are. I posted a copy of the email I sent to ameritrade. Now I have them on record saying that I am on the nobo list.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I think you are right 10of13... no dividend. [Frown] Good thing I kept my head.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Rufas ~ Did you get your document, or whatever you were waiting on? Care to share it with us?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...5 o'clock central time?
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
You can put almost any stock symbol in there and it gives a dividen date....I think that it is incorrect in assuming that they are giving a dividen date. almost seems the date is for the next fling...try it....put in a different symbol...I put in IGAI...and it showed the date of October 16...but they aren't given a divie...
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
think of what??? Is CSHD paying a dividend to its shareholders??

It's seems that way...

10...What I was saying was that I put in GWGO, a stock that I KNEW had a dividend recently and sure enough the system pulled up the info about GWGO and ttheir dividend date. Seemed like a logical test of that system.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
You can put almost any stock symbol in there and it gives a dividen date....I think that it is incorrect in assuming that they are giving a dividen date. almost seems the date is for the next fling...try it....put in a different symbol...I put in IGAI...and it showed the date of October 16...but they aren't given a divie...
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
think of what??? Is CSHD paying a dividend to its shareholders??

It's seems that way...

10...What I was saying was that I put in GWGO, a stock that I KNEW had a dividend recently and sure enough the system pulled up the info about GWGO and ttheir dividend date. Seemed like a logical test of that system.
Have you put in a stock symbol yet where you know they have not ever given a dividend. It still shows a date.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
You can put almost any stock symbol in there and it gives a dividen date....I think that it is incorrect in assuming that they are giving a dividen date. almost seems the date is for the next fling...try it....put in a different symbol...I put in IGAI...and it showed the date of October 16...but they aren't given a divie...
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
think of what??? Is CSHD paying a dividend to its shareholders??

It's seems that way...

10,
That is a great point... still not sure what to think, The info came from Boho Girl on Paltalk (good creadability) and said that it is new to the site that it was not there yesterday.
I hope it's true... Seems that something is up at lest... also a Divi makes a lot of sense to Rufus's end game...
Ima
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
for everyone that's worried about being on the nobo list which I believe was the big thing for rufus that's how they can find out who you are. I posted a copy of the email I sent to ameritrade. Now I have them on record saying that I am on the nobo list.

Ryan - it says you are on the NOBO list. Can you verify that anyhow?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Stockstar69
Yes...but I put in IGAI and AWYB...plus some others and it showed them as having a dividend date...not an amount just a date...
I would hope that if you put in one that actually has a divie that it would give you the info...
I just don't think that CSHD is getting one...IMO...but hey..I'll take one.. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
bkmp gives the info
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
well it says 10,000. it was a 10,000 to 1
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Im just getting caught up. It was hard being away from the pc today and not knowing if something was going on other than the normal. All I could do was check the prices on my crackberry all day while I was in meetings.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Dividends must be declared (i.e., approved) by a company’s Board of Directors each time they are paid. There are four important dates to remember regarding dividends.

Declaration date: The declaration date is the day the Board of Director’s announces their intention to pay a dividend. On this day, the company creates a liability on its books; it now owes the money to the stockholders. On the declaration date, the Board will also announce a date of record and a payment date.

Date of record: Shareholders who properly registered their ownership on or before this date will receive the dividend. Shareholders who are not registered as of this date will not receive the dividend. Registration in most countries is essentially automatic for shares purchased before the ex-dividend date.

Ex dividend date: Is set by the exchange where the stock is traded, many days (usually two) before the date of record, so that all trades made on previous dates can be properly settled and the shareholder list on the date of record will accurately reflect the current owners. Purchasers buying before the ex-dividend date will receive the dividend. The stock is said to trade cum dividend on these dates. Purchasers buying on or after the ex-dividend date will not receive the dividend. The stock trades ex-dividend on these dates.

Payment date: The date when the dividend cheques will actually be mailed to the shareholders of a company.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Stockstar69
Yes...but I put in IGAI and AWYB...plus some others and it showed them as having a dividend date...not an amount just a date...
I would hope that if you put in one that actually has a divie that it would give you the info...
I just don't think that CSHD is getting one...IMO...but hey..I'll take one.. [Big Grin]

Yeah 10,
I put in AWYB and it shows a Divi date but nothing that I could find showed anything on the 2nd... Don't know what to think. Sorry if I roused people with no news, didn't mean to:(
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It is this statement that bugs me about the CERT deal...Can the company decide what is "properly"?

Date of record:Shareholders who properly registered their ownership on or before this date will receive the dividend. Shareholders who are not registered as of this date will not receive the dividend. Registration in most countries is essentially automatic for shares purchased before the ex-dividend date
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
don't say sorry...you brought info over..
and sure enough the first time you don't,
it will be the one that you should have... [Wink]


quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Stockstar69
Yes...but I put in IGAI and AWYB...plus some others and it showed them as having a dividend date...not an amount just a date...
I would hope that if you put in one that actually has a divie that it would give you the info...
I just don't think that CSHD is getting one...IMO...but hey..I'll take one.. [Big Grin]

Yeah 10,
I put in AWYB and it shows a Divi date but nothing that I could find showed anything on the 2nd... Don't know what to think. Sorry if I roused people with no news, didn't mean to:(


 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
It is this statement that bugs me about the CERT deal...Can the company decide what is "properly"?

Date of record:Shareholders who properly registered their ownership on or before this date will receive the dividend. Shareholders who are not registered as of this date will not receive the dividend. Registration in most countries is essentially automatic for shares purchased before the ex-dividend date

10~ That is what I question as well....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
It is this statement that bugs me about the CERT deal...Can the company decide what is "properly"?

Date of record:Shareholders who properly registered their ownership on or before this date will receive the dividend. Shareholders who are not registered as of this date will not receive the dividend. Registration in most countries is essentially automatic for shares purchased before the ex-dividend date

Doesn't this go back to that rule we were talking about today? Where a TA can get info on all shareholders UNLESS you check that privacy box..

It's automatic isn't it?...

I'm pretty sure!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
"Registration in most countries is essentially automatic for shares purchased before the ex-dividend date."

From New2's post....
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Tha is why rufas said in that interview about that list... You wil ask why am I not on that list?... Remember? So hopefully no one flipped and is in that 3 day waiting don't know if that will cause a proplem maybe that's what he was talking about as far as he wanted long term holders and not day traders etc? my opinion [Wink]
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Well guys...I'm off, I need a break. Catch ya all tomorrow.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Transferred the bulk of my stock to Merrill Lynch. The transfer accounts for my ownership of these shares. It's a cash account... I indicated full disclosure on my account. CSHD should be aware of my ownership and have access to my info according to ML.

Oddly enough, when I talked with the manager at ML this afternoon... she seemed very helpful and started talking about the fact that my dividend checks would be going into my ML account... and that I could choose to reinvest the money at that time, invest in other recommended stocks, or take the cash.

I was a little perplexed by this.... considering that I have yet to get any payback on my CSHD shares. She stated that ML was aware of the CSHD "situation".

I didn't go any further with her as I was late for another appointment. It just seemed odd.
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
from hsm:;
I just got off the phone with Stan at DTN Market Access, which provides the data feed for profitspi.com.

He said the data is received from OTCBB and sent directly via feed to their database which is then re-distributed to their vendors (profitspi.com he had never heard of). He looked at the feed directly (not through profitspi.com) and also saw a dividend date of 10/13/2006. He had no explanation why I could not find the dividend data for CSHD on Nasdaq.com or otcbb.com.

(yet, IMO).
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
He also said the cut off date was the 29th that it all so if you were not on the nobo list as of that date and or didn't have certs declaring your name??? you will only get the 15 reset if proved you had shares but if in the 3 day hold and did that mean u had airshares???? Did that take u off the nobo if u were on??? Not sure guess we will find out soon..~LOL~
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
good luck all just checked in an added my 2 cents LOL smile it might be all good... [Wink]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
The other night Rufus was asked by someone emailing into subpenny radio why he doesn't have the shorters pay a dividend & he said something to the effect that he wanted them to hurt worse than that. Something like that, not his words.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Did anyone say Dividends!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just came across this from the peeps at Paltalk!!!
http://www.profitspi.com/stock-quote/cshd.aspx
Bu bye Shorties!!!

Friday the 13th might be a bad day for shortie
Wonder what the Divi might be and how it will be paid out??

There's no DIVY. I put in RKLC a company I'm very familiar with and it shows a dividend date of 3/1/2007. I think they just input a date in the field. Nothing has been stated about Dividends and nothing is on the OTCBB daily list, which is a requirement. Sorry


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I don't see how a broker or the list can determine whether your shares are "real" or not.

Don't think it's an investor's problem... you bought shares... you get market price for them.. period.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
wow guys check out the email I just got back from ameritrade. This is in response to an email I sent earlier today. I feel so much better right now.

Mr. XXXXXXXXX,

Please accept my apologies regarding the previous correspondence related to the NOBO list. According to our records, I show that you are on the list of NOBO for CSHD.

Laurie W.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.

This was a response to this email I sent them

I understand why you hold my shares in street name. I however don't understand how I can't be placed on a NOBO list it seems like a violation of SEC rule 14b-1(c). Which states:


Under rule 14b-1(c) of the Securities Exchange Act, we are required to disclose to an issuer the name, address, and securities position of our customers who are beneficial owners of that issuer's securities unless the customer objects.

Nicely done. They changed their tune in a hurry once you educated them.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Mantux on :
 
I just put in symbols of stocks I own. HD which pays a dividend and LU which does not. Both showed the dividend date but only HD shows a dividend payout per share. I think the dividend date is only represenative of the close of quarter for that company. That's just my guess as it corresponds with those companies.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
My account with them must not be big enough to respond to. Ive emailed and called at least 6 times and they wont respond. Whenever I call there is never anyone there that knows.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
On a similar note, I never called and asked for anything to be put into my name on my shares i held with Intel, and I was paid a dividend on them directly into my brokerage account.

food for thought..

Im w/ banc of america if it makes any difference
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Just saw a TDA commercial ... Open an account today and receive 45 days of free trading plus $100 cash ... what a deal! ... jumpin' all over that one!
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Lol, AZ. I bet they didnt say they can decide what were aloud to buy, did they. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I know we've gone thru this question..

Are the shares we purchase after 9/29 real, or "air shares"?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.

GLTA
Wally

Sorry Wally i was a bit busy earlier so i did not get to answer this... but the answer is simple.

On NASDAQ short rules are much different. The books have to balance. If we go to NASDAQ "ALL" shorts must cover in 48 hours. If by miriacle or magic Rufas pulls this off. We will be witness to the squeeze play of the century. Each and every one of our shares will be etched in the rarest of minerals, outlined in diamonds. The investor that sells to them cheap will be making a huge mistake.

Wally, don't know about NASDAQ specifically, but when GTEL/GTE moved to AMEX, I didn't have to "do anything." The share count reversed, ticker changed, and my Scottie simply tracked the entire deal in my account...
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
dOG WROTE:
I know we've gone thru this question..

Are the shares we purchase after 9/29 real, or "air shares"?

They better be real. Thats one thing they have told me over the phone. JMHO
 
Posted by dog on :
 
How the hell can they tell if any I've got over the last 3 months are "real"?

Is it soley dependent on Scottrade to have kept a record and reported it to the company?
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
They said something about searching for the best deals for you! Ha!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OK. I have a question. Does anybody know if a certificate exchange would be required if a stock moves from one exchange to another? I mean if a stock was to move from the pinks to OTCBB or from OTCBB to NASDAQ would certificate need to be exchanged?

If they do, HMM. I guess shorts would be required to cover.


Thanks Tex. By the way I in no way was saying that CSHD is immediately going to the NASDAQ just exploring possible ramifications.

GTLA
Wally

GLTA
Wally

Sorry Wally i was a bit busy earlier so i did not get to answer this... but the answer is simple.

On NASDAQ short rules are much different. The books have to balance. If we go to NASDAQ "ALL" shorts must cover in 48 hours. If by miriacle or magic Rufas pulls this off. We will be witness to the squeeze play of the century. Each and every one of our shares will be etched in the rarest of minerals, outlined in diamonds. The investor that sells to them cheap will be making a huge mistake.

Wally, don't know about NASDAQ specifically, but when GTEL/GTE moved to AMEX, I didn't have to "do anything." The share count reversed, ticker changed, and my Scottie simply tracked the entire deal in my account...

 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Just noticed this from 10 minutes ago and thought it was relevant:

SANTA BARBARA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--

Occam(R) Networks Inc. (OTCBB:OCNW), a supplier of innovative Ethernet- and IP-based loop carrier equipment to telecommunications companies, announced today that it has received approval from The NASDAQ Stock Market LLC to list its common shares on the NASDAQ Global Market under the symbol "OCNW." The Company expects to begin trading on the NASDAQ Global Market on October 9, 2006. Until that time, the Company's common shares will continue to trade on the NASD Electronic Bulletin Board (OTCBB).

From what i can make out they filed a S-1/A on the 18th of September and issued the confirmation PR today.
I think this gives us an idea of the time frame involved in moving from the OTCBB to the big board.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Dog, Aturd told me if they are in my account they are real. Course we know thats not exactly true. Thats all I can say about that.
JMHO and heresay. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
here's an interesting article.

PET QUARTERS, INC. FILES COMPLAINT AGAINST

THE DEPOSITORY TRUST AND CLEARING CORPORATION,

THE DEPOSITORY TRUST COMPANY AND

THE NATIONAL SECURITIES CLEARING CORPORATION

Company seeks over $400,000,000 in damages

Sherwood, ARKANSAS- November 12, 2004- Pet Quarters Inc. (OTC:PDEN.PK), formerly a mail-order catalog and internet based pet supply company based in Lonoke, Arkansas, announced today that it and several individual shareholders, filed a complaint against The Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation (DTCC), The Depository Trust Company (DTC) and The National Securities Clearing Corporation (NSCC) in the Circuit Court of Pulaski County, Arkansas, Sixth Division. The Plaintiffs are represented by the law firms of O'Quinn, Laminack & Pirtle, Christian Smith & Jewell, and Heard, Robins, Cloud, Lubel & Greenwood, LLP, all of Houston, Texas and Eichenbaum, Liles & Heister, PA of Little Rock, Arkansas.

The complaint alleges that the DTCC, the NSCC and the DTC acted in concert to allow an increase in the supply of stock through the Stock Borrow Program, causing downward pressure on the price of Pet Quarters (PQI) stock. It further alleges that the Defendants permitted sellers of PQI shares to maintain significant open "fail to deliver" positions of millions of shares of PQI stock for extended periods of time. Attorney Sean Greenwood said: "We believe that the price of PQI stock fell because the Defendants- through their operation of the Stock Borrow Program- manipulated and allowed the manipulation of PQI stock by various sellers who failed to deliver PQI shares." By covering open "fail to deliver" positions with shares borrowed through the Stock Borrow Program and delivering the borrowed shares to the buyers, the complaint alleges, the Defendants artificially created unregistered, free trading PQI shares and increased the supply of PQI shares in the marketplace without authority. Attorney Adam Voyles said: "It is our belief that the artificially increased supply of PQI shares in the marketplace has significantly decreased the value of PQI stock."

Steve Dempsey, Chairman and CEO of PQI said: "We relied on the Defendants’ representation that they use the Stock Borrow Program to efficiently settle and clear trades." Co-founder Mike Parnell added: "Their mishandling of these shares and resulting misrepresentations are unacceptable." Attorney John O’Quinn commented: "The deeper my team and I dig into these cases, the more outraged I become. Honest American entrepreneurs have been subjected to scandalous behavior and abandoned by organizations that should be protecting them."

CONTACT:
Ivan Kronenfeld
Koerner Kronenfeld Partners, LLC
Tel: 1-212-448-9141
Email: ikronenfeld*kswny.com

SOURCE: Pet Quarters Inc.

http://www.petquarters.com/press/pr041110.asp
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Nice find Wally. This is great to see...hopefully, the first of many.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
This is long but very very interesting. It concerns the DTCC, registered ownership and Beneficial ownership. A good read.

http://ming.tv/flemming2.php/__show_article/_a000010-000923.htm
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
This is long but very very interesting. It concerns the DTCC, registered ownership and Beneficial ownership. A good read.

http://ming.tv/flemming2.php/__show_article/_a000010-000923.htm

jeese...i just finished reading this whole thing...at first glance one would tell the author to break out the aluminum foil hats...really thinking about it though...it's some scary stuff to consider...

haha...I can hear it now...Cede Co. broadcast worldwide before their plot to take over the world is revealed, "All your stock are belong to us!!!"
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
good find Wally, makes one think hard about certs!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
for everyone that's worried about being on the nobo list which I believe was the big thing for rufus that's how they can find out who you are. I posted a copy of the email I sent to ameritrade. Now I have them on record saying that I am on the nobo list.

Ryan - it says you are on the NOBO list. Can you verify that anyhow?
greenday I have an email from ameritrade stating that the looked at the nobo and my name was on the list. So at least I have that in writting. Tomorrow I'm going to try and get in touch with someone at cshd, and see if they can cross reference it with their list. As far as I can tell. having your name on the NOBO list at least previous to the 29th deadline. is as good as requesting your certs. It should have your name as having ownership of those shares and give you every right that others that have hard copies of their certs are receiving. Any body if I am wrong in my thinking please correct me.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
well now we know we are not the owners of our stock...we are simply the "beneficiary"...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
I thought this was relevant to some people's concern regarding holding actual certificates...from the link posted above...

quote:
Don't let the broker tell you that it's "safer" for you if they keep your certificates. Remember, you know the truth. Even if all your stock and bond certificates were burned in a fire, the process to have them replaced is simple. If someone were to steal your certificates, you simply report them stolen to the company that issued them and they're automatically cancelled, just like a stolen credit card. Replacement certificates are then issued to replace the lost or stolen originals.

 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
No Crab! ... we are "Beneficial Owners"!! LOL!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Following is a small bit from Wally's find...
Kinda scary...'cause I don't own jack!

REGISTERED HOLDER- A Registered Holder literally possesses, owns, and holds, his stock or bond with his name appearing on the face of the certificate. The company that issued the certificate has registered the owner's (holder's) name on their official books. This is the safest way to own a paper asset. You literally possess the fully registered certificate and only you can transfer or sell it. By all Rights and definition of law, you are the owner. You have it, you hold it, you possess it, and you keep it. You have the complete control over it.

BENEFICIAL OWNER- A Beneficial Owner is nothing more than a beneficiary, "One who is entitled to the benefit of a contract"- A Dictionary of Law, 1893. All book-entry stocks and bonds you purchase make you the beneficial owner, not the registered holder. The owner of a book-entry stock or bond is the entity or name that it is registered under.

The DTC owns that bond or stock, not you. Rather than in your name, it's registered (as the legal Registered Owner or agent) in their "street name", Cede & Company. (In the past, it may have been registered in your broker's street name, but this is no longer allowed). The DTC is the Registered Owner - holder - of your stock or bond. The DTC is the legal property-holder, share-holder, stock-holder, owner and purchaser. Your name appears nowhere on the book entry or certificate as the actual owner. Instead, you have been designated by the legal registered owner, the DTC, as the Beneficial Owner. This means that your lawful Rights in that stock or bond are confined to that of a successor or heir.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Didn't they say this was going to be a week to remeber or something like that? So far, I'm bored!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cool AZ:
No Crab! ... we are "Beneficial Owners"!! LOL!!

haha...same difference... [Razz]

did you notice in the comments underneath? people left comments regarding CMKX in early 2005 and how it was going to bite the SEC, DTCC, etc. in the *ss...then, last week we get that PR from the NASD stating how that investigation went...scary stuff...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok, let me return to my evil ways for a sec....

I keep hearing Bruce Springsteen in my head while watching this stock...

 -

"You used to love to drive me wild
But lately girl you get your kicks from just driving me
down, down, down down,
I'm going down, down, down, down,
I'm going down, down, down, down
I'm going down, down, down"

Got this cranking on my PC now.. had this in my head all day since posting the lyrics... rock on!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Following is a small bit from Wally's find...
Kinda scary...'cause I don't own jack!

REGISTERED HOLDER- A Registered Holder literally possesses, owns, and holds, his stock or bond with his name appearing on the face of the certificate. The company that issued the certificate has registered the owner's (holder's) name on their official books. This is the safest way to own a paper asset. You literally possess the fully registered certificate and only you can transfer or sell it. By all Rights and definition of law, you are the owner. You have it, you hold it, you possess it, and you keep it. You have the complete control over it.

BENEFICIAL OWNER- A Beneficial Owner is nothing more than a beneficiary, "One who is entitled to the benefit of a contract"- A Dictionary of Law, 1893. All book-entry stocks and bonds you purchase make you the beneficial owner, not the registered holder. The owner of a book-entry stock or bond is the entity or name that it is registered under.

The DTC owns that bond or stock, not you. Rather than in your name, it's registered (as the legal Registered Owner or agent) in their "street name", Cede & Company. (In the past, it may have been registered in your broker's street name, but this is no longer allowed). The DTC is the Registered Owner - holder - of your stock or bond. The DTC is the legal property-holder, share-holder, stock-holder, owner and purchaser. Your name appears nowhere on the book entry or certificate as the actual owner. Instead, you have been designated by the legal registered owner, the DTC, as the Beneficial Owner. This means that your lawful Rights in that stock or bond are confined to that of a successor or heir.

OT: yes, 10, this is why sometimes on the lil geek-play reverses wherein "no one is rounded to less than 100 shares," the broker(s) will sometimes try to say (or say the TA said) that "the TA is treating all DTC shares as one block; therefore you're not elegible for the 100 round-up shares."

Phooey: I bought 'em, and they have to deliver 'em. Basic contract law...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex...
I get most of it...
I don't usually play the geek-things...
1 reason I don't like to hold...I don't want CERTS or shares or street name NOBO lists...
All me wants is me money... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Updated SEC Nasdaq listing requirements...not sure if this has been posted:
http://www.paulweiss.com/files/Publication/8a61a2c6-7033-4bac-a0cb-15ea11ff7b53/ Presentation/PublicationAttachment/87fb8c26-9f3b-482a-8090-16d1a230497e/7-1-06%2 0NASDAQ.pdf
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
for everyone that's worried about being on the nobo list which I believe was the big thing for rufus that's how they can find out who you are. I posted a copy of the email I sent to ameritrade. Now I have them on record saying that I am on the nobo list.

Ryan - it says you are on the NOBO list. Can you verify that anyhow?
greenday I have an email from ameritrade stating that the looked at the nobo and my name was on the list. So at least I have that in writting. Tomorrow I'm going to try and get in touch with someone at cshd, and see if they can cross reference it with their list. As far as I can tell. having your name on the NOBO list at least previous to the 29th deadline. is as good as requesting your certs. It should have your name as having ownership of those shares and give you every right that others that have hard copies of their certs are receiving. Any body if I am wrong in my thinking please correct me.
I might have made a huge boo boo. I bought in July and have been holding since. So I should be on NOBO through both eTrade and Scottrade. However - I did a couple flips this week to make back so initial funds and get some free shares. SO is my date of ownership when I first bought in July? or will it be the date of the most recent shares purchased (this week) since I sold my July ones? and if so, what does that mean. I thought the 9/29 date was only the date the 10K was due - is it significant in any other way??

I might need to give a call myself. Let us know if they can tell you if your on 'the list'
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
what happend with all the long here ,where they at


LMAO


[Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
GreenDay,
The 29th was the last day for all FHAL share holders to turn in their CERTS for CSHD CERTS...
As for the date and the "us"...i don't think that there is a big issue with it...You should be just fine...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Listening to Subpenny... cleaning house.... hoping I have real shares.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Cool - thanks 10! Good Night
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...dog you ever see that episode of the simpsons when bart gets a bunch of shares of a dotcom? used'm for wallpaper, toilet paper, making airplanes...at least we'll all have that if this doesn't pan out, lol...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
Updated SEC Nasdaq listing requirements...not sure if this has been posted:
http://www.paulweiss.com/files/Publication/8a61a2c6-7033-4bac-a0cb-15ea11ff7b53/ Presentation/PublicationAttachment/87fb8c26-9f3b-482a-8090-16d1a230497e/7-1-06%2 0NASDAQ.pdf

Good find. Thanks for posting.

Unless I'm reading it wrong CSHD can qualify for NASDAQ under a few different scenario's. I guess it could happen even though I, personally won't hold my breath. We are attempting to look into every possibility. Please those who are new here do not read more into any of this than there is. It's SPECULATION and none of it can be confirmed.

It is one heck of a learning process, however.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
After reading the ddtc? I came to the conclusion that if we had a depression and you didnt have the certs well guess what ur shat outa luck~LOL~ if they decided hmmm look at all the control because we are lazy/...is that the word ? Because we are greedy and lazy we want the easy money...my opinion is rufas is giving just that to us after all the hardships the peeps before us have gone through with the stock market etc...Believe me , it was tough but I learned from family that certs are for you if you want the long haul of the company most of my family made millions from the stock market and held certs scott...at&t...comcast...ge..to name a few and it was well worth it...again do what u feel is right for you but do not cry if you are left out and in turn if I am wrong I wont...~LOL~ I know nothing that would benefit anyone but myself LOL [Wink] glta
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Listening to Subpenny... cleaning house.... hoping I have real shares.

what are they saying dog.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
what happend with all the long here ,where they at


LMAO


[Big Grin]

What you talking about Willis?

GLTA
Gary Coleman
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
That's "What choo talkin' 'bout Willis"
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
wally DID I WAKE YOU


just a joke


LOL
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
That's "What choo talkin' 'bout Willis"

[Cool] [Smile] [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hopefully tomorrow gets good. Here are some quotes from Rufus during the interview this week.

There are going to be many exciting things happening with CSHD very soon, especially this week, and people are going to see things that have NEVER happened before with any other company. The market will soon realize all the things they've been doing, and they have a "lot of projects" being pursued.

- This week, look for a "short elimination"
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
wally DID I WAKE YOU


just a joke


LOL

Haven't you ever heard: Let sleeping dogs lie? Well my nickname is "OSO"=bear, I don't trust translations by others. So When you wake me from hibernation, I'm hungry, thirsty and what was that third one Hmmm I forgot. [Big Grin]

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by dog on :
 
www.subpennyradio.com

Get a VIP membership... lets you right in...


SPEND THE FIVE BUCKS! Cheap edutainment... everyone should be listening to every word out of Rufus' mouth.

Listening to him yourself = good DD

He's not on now... replays later... still discussing CSHD.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Wally you listening to -penny radio?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Here is the entire interview, sumarized:

#2
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 2,086 Major points from Incredible, 4 hour interview with Rufus and Ben 10/2

- There are going to be many exciting things happening with CSHD very soon, especially this week, and people are going to see things that have NEVER happened before with any other company. The market will soon realize all the things they've been doing, and they have a "lot of projects" being pursued.

- This week, look for a "short elimination"

-The last piece of information for the 10K will be received on Thursday (10/5) night, and it's possible although unlikely that the 10k will be out Friday. Look for it next week.

*confusing point up for debate*
- Rufus said the 10k is not what we are waiting for...that the 10Q will contain info as to every filing up until this point, who's who ,what's what, and who's getting paid.

- Rufus claims that Simon from subpennyradio may have affiliation with Timothy Miles, the man behind our-street. Simon stutters in response, but maintains he does not.

- Rufus invites ********** to office ... rufus will answer questions and ********** will also have to answer questions.
Open invitation to such bashers.


- Rufus says merger agreement stated $15, that WILL be reset price although that is NOT their current value. THEY ARE GOING TO POST BOOK VALUE, submit to SEC, and see if they can possibily negotiate a better reset price. Rufus says numbers dont lie.
Essentially, if they are ALLOWED to release it at a higher price, they will. But as of now, it's set in stone that it's $15. Could be more if SEC allows it.

- $7.21 was definitely as of date of signing merger agreement, as in June.

- says that when he said $54 reset price, he was responding to someone on ihub, and that was the company's value at the time of posting.
*Rufus chuckles to himself*....actually, the company's worth is a LOT more than that now.

- About *** PR, says "Wasn't that just the craziest crap?"

- will bring in FBI on *** for the fake PR.

- Rufus says, "Congressional committees are watching CSHD to straighten out naked short selling.

- Says naked short selling is truly shocking and very harmful. unbelievable thing that is being done to shareholders, and if your name is not on the books of the company, you do not own real shares, BUT you have to get shares because your broker is the issuer. You're golden as long as you're holding. They will work with every single shareholder if something is not delivered by the broker.

- Says call for certificates if you really want to be sure. You have to request the certs in YOUR name, and check with the transfer agent that they are in fact held in your name.

- phone number for TA (don, who rufus says is very competent) is:
702-317-7757 Don Madallon

- if you want your name in the CSHD books, MAKE SURE they are not in street name, the way you do this is after you have shares in your account call your broker say you want them in YOUR name not street name contact TA make sure he has your name.

- "next thing you see from CSHD will be something no other company has done, and it will correct the naked short selling problem!"

***-if they don't have your name and address, they can't assign you a login and password, which is their new idea for the website. very innovative, get ready for this:
REAL TIME FINANCIALS!
wants to be first one ever, real time financials for CSHD!!!
each shareholder gets own login linked to cert numbers, sign in on cvsu.us website and see REAL TIME FINANCIALS, says check deposited will instantly be able to be seen. FREE Level 2 quotes in addition.


- Q Where did they get the shares to trade on berlin exchange?
- A. No one in CSHD authorized that action.
they did NOT AUTHORIZE being traded there.


- he says he goes to HSM because it's free and that we evaluate the stock thoroughly and do GREAT DD
- saying if people have q's, come to hsm, we're really good people!!

- Says that we havent found all their documents.
- courthouse in georgia has these public documents.

- he promises us that they GRABBED THE WRONG TIGER BY THE TAIL!!!

- says no safe harbor statement needed because things he is saying are FACTS

- Everything is all real, you will see it, they don't hold things to a time frame, everyone will be informed, ultimate goal is major investment company.

- Float is 37 million.
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Flipperbw
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 2,086 - Says ameritrade can't be doing something legal by limiting buys. How is it legal? What SEC regulation says what broker can limit whether you buy or sell a publicly traded company?

-waatle shareholders are just now receiving shares.

**up for debate**
- says "if i told you who we met with today, it would blow your mind..I'll give you a hint, we met with the nephew of the richest man in the world."

- tut says Ingvar Kamprad is not the richest man in the world.

- says "it would be mighty nice to come out on the nasdaq, thats our goal", but could not fully answer the question due to insider information worries.

- huge list of names they have to call back, and they will call the shareholders back when they have more time.

- if, IF stock opens on nasdaq, says that if shares are to be covered ben wants to be contacted within 24-48 hours in order to do so...NO grace period for shorters. "we're gonna hit em so hard with so much stuff...they're not gonna have an opportunity to cover."

- Rufus said he would partner with select HSM members to form a Charitable Trust. says he will pay for company PR's for this trust.

- they are willing to escrow funds so every shareholder gets their shares and their $15, in the event of a buyback. they have already set aside $900 million in case they need to do this.
- says again that he is willing to pay $900 million to pay everyone off at $15, but if you stay his company will pay CASH dividends.

- if company is uncomfortable with any situation, he COULD buy us all out

- saying that TDA changed their management, sarcasticly saying that that couldnt possibly have anything to do with CSHD...hahaha.

- says multiple times meryll lynch is great...

- rufus says that they will get their liquidity from INSTITUTIONS, screw shorts.

- says float has shifted multiple times in recent days, so selling shares will not be a problem after reset.

- rufus says JJSeabrook from ihub was involved in CMKX, Rufus says he is a crook

- Select MM and institutional buying will take place after they solidify deal, one institution they've been dealing with for a LONG time they were working on executing a buyback up to $35, at discretion of board of directions to buy back up to $35 per share.

- Rufus thinks Mike Alexander is a great human being, much respect for him, Rufus just silenced Ben as he was about to say "mike just completed a major deal..." (guess we know what that is now!)

- when the trigger is pulled, he promises you will never see anything like what is coming

- simon asks if he ever received C&D letters, rufus breaks out into laughter.
- explaining how a contract is signed with two major companies, given to SEC, says how can you possibly issue a cease and desist to that?

- he wants you to have a "big board mentality" with cshd

- in ONE YEAR Rufus sees the company at...
15 billion in assets
- he can't predict where it's going to go, everything is in place though, down the road if something god forbid happens to rufus, have a comfort level, company will prosecute anyone who does anything illegal without going thru court system.
- he sees this on CNN soon

- q: we've heard 10k will be info up to this point, why so long for it to come out?
- a: when they put it on sho list, 29th was drop dead date, was set to help us, its approximately 72 pages, they have to edgarize them, it takes some time

- in 10k, they can say what they are ready to fund and what deals are pending. That's why we're waiting...rufus says "we will not be out of compliance with SEC."

- he says they PLANNED TO FILE 10k ON 13th!!!
-but they did not know they were going to do the 29th thing, that is why it did not come out.

- he claims one major individual bought almost half the float the first day...

- "remember the tiger by the tail? this tiger has friend in the UN, and overseas...."

- rufus - "if we don't put the 10k out tomorrow...DONT WORRY.
company does not benefit from the increased money, it is not an IPO. the dollars made here CSHD makes in daily transactions."

- You are seeing a manipulated market.
- "how can good news drive a stock price down it's not logic, its not logical."

- "what if tomorrow, I put out a name of everyone on the books? Every shareholder, we have that information."
- "what would you do, if you found out your name is not on that list??"

- Rufus is more than willing to spend 1000 a day to provide DTCC and ADP EVERY SINGLE DAY.

- Rufus says he will help create 100s of thousands of jobs...

- q: "do you think PPS will soar after reset?"
- a: "They can't hold it back..."
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Posted by a surfer on :
 
I have it on now.. moserator at spinoffz sure did pump it
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Wally you listening to -penny radio?

I listen every night. When you hear him talk about JMAC thats me. Been listening and learning from him since he first started broadcasting. Simon is very good at charting a stock.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...
I get most of it...
I don't usually play the geek-things...
1 reason I don't like to hold...I don't want CERTS or shares or street name NOBO lists...
All me wants is me money... [Big Grin]

OT:

lol, you've played this one, quite well in my book... [Big Grin]

My single, largest objection to DTCC/DTC et-al-nexus is their being private. As such, they are immune to FOI requests--sumpin's *very wrong* about that...

The geek-by-filings plays? I only do those I'm fairly sure of at least one MM trading after r/s; risk-reward is optimal: often the commission is higher than the buy-in...average return is about a 10-bagger. Latest one I did was MLNK, paid $27 as I recall, for eventual sell at $195. The funniest one I remember offhand? Seems like Glass, Keith and I did one last year for a 45-cent buy that paid about $95-110, depending when the broker(s) delivered shares...

Multiple accounts are a bonus...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
OFF TOPIC tex and wally have you seen PYPR wow
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...
I get most of it...
I don't usually play the geek-things...
1 reason I don't like to hold...I don't want CERTS or shares or street name NOBO lists...
All me wants is me money... [Big Grin]

OT:

lol, you've played this one, quite well in my book... [Big Grin]

My single, largest objection to DTCC/DTC et-al-nexus is their being private. As such, they are immune to FOI requests--sumpin's *very wrong* about that...

The geek-by-filings plays? I only do those I'm fairly sure of at least one MM trading after r/s; risk-reward is optimal: often the commission is higher than the buy-in...average return is about a 10-bagger. Latest one I did was MLNK, paid $27 as I recall, for eventual sell at $195. The funniest one I remember offhand? Seems like Glass, Keith and I did one last year for a 45-cent buy that paid about $95-110, depending when the broker(s) delivered shares...

Multiple accounts are a bonus...

can you explain what the heck you are talking about here tex? Buying in at .45 and selling at $95...huh?
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
OFF TOPIC tex and wally have you seen PYPR wow

LMAO , you are a MOD too?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
OFF TOPIC tex and wally have you seen PYPR wow

OT: I bought PYPR at .0007, didn't like the 7.6B O/S and sold at .001 for a decent profit. However, in hindsight wish I was still holding all those shares. Looks strong.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex...sounds like some great plays!!
AND? ya'll never answered when asked ...did ya ever get in this?
Do you not agree that the "basher", "hype", Paid PR bash crap slinging, "star figure" message board tales have been unreal with this?

Please tell me that this DOES not happen with all geek plays!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex, Wally, Surfer? You are all mods? [Wink] LOL
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
OFF TOPIC tex and wally have you seen PYPR wow

LMAO , you are a MOD too?

 
Posted by T e x on :
 
OT:

PYPR...no, not up on that one...sounds as though it's been a good play, though...


ST22: the sub-topic is "geek plays," as an offshoot of the DTCC/DTC-->certs conversations. What you're asking me about are plays wherein the company reverses but limits the effects of the reverse to certain "below-than" limits. Typically, the "round-off" number is 100. An example: round-off is 100, pps is currently .05, reverse ratio is 200. Theoretically, pps post-reverse is 200 X .05 = $10. Buy 100 (or maybe 101, say) for $10. Post-reverse, you have 100 shares, now trading at $10: 100 x 10 = $1,000. Typically, that will not happen (by the time your shares are delivered)...but selling at 8, 7, 6, 5...quite feasible.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...sounds like some great plays!!
AND? ya'll never answered when asked ...did ya ever get in this?
Do you not agree that the "basher", "hype", Paid PR bash crap slinging, "star figure" message board tales have been unreal with this?

Please tell me that this DOES not happen with all geek plays!!!

to me, this is *the MF* of geek plays...lol

those lil, odd-filings' dealies? most never even show up on a board...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
This is the twilight zone.... gonna get wierder.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex, Wally, Surfer? You are all mods? [Wink] LOL
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
OFF TOPIC tex and wally have you seen PYPR wow

LMAO , you are a MOD too?

I GUESS YOU DONT HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TO ME


LMAO [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
But i love you 10of13 no BS
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex, Wally, Surfer? You are all mods? [Wink] LOL
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
OFF TOPIC tex and wally have you seen PYPR wow

LMAO , you are a MOD too?

I think I was MOD in the 60's or maybe 70's but I doubt that applies anymore.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Tex, I am assuming that you must have certs in hand to do this "geek play"? TMAN...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Me a MOD... aww shucks... who Let the cat out of the bag......
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks dollar... [Wink]
Yah gatta love me...we're family...
we both have the same last name... [Big Grin]


quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
But i love you 10of13 no BS


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I think it was dog...

quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Me a MOD... aww shucks... who Let the cat out of the bag......


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
see..you still avoid the question... [Wink]
BUT...at least you know whats going on...
Just like the rest of us do...(yeah right)
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...sounds like some great plays!!
AND? ya'll never answered when asked ...did ya ever get in this?
Do you not agree that the "basher", "hype", Paid PR bash crap slinging, "star figure" message board tales have been unreal with this?

Please tell me that this DOES not happen with all geek plays!!!

to me, this is *the MF* of geek plays...lol

those lil, odd-filings' dealies? most never even show up on a board...


 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Tex, I am assuming that you must have certs in hand to do this "geek play"? TMAN...

nope...

in fact, the only time I've ever wound up with physical certs was the GVRP thang...the "original" geek play, in my book. They effected an (illegal, imo) r/s without a corresponding rise in pps through PRs and behind-the-scenes negotiations between NASD/NASDAQ and a NY attorney...
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Thanks Tex... Now all I have to do is find a few of these and see if it'll work. TMAN...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Some more stuff from the lengthy DTC article:

quote:
A greater consideration is just exactly who does the DTC hold these securities for? As the owner, who has the DTC pledged these securities to? Our research points to the Federal Reserve System, an international private banking cartel with major offices found in Moscow, London, Tokyo, and Peking. By treaty with the United Nations and in compliance with the Bretton Woods Agreement, the DTC under regulation of the Federal Reserve System has pledged all those stocks and bonds to the International Monetary Fund (IMF). These are the same paper securities found in your IRA and pension fund accounts, as well as in your brokerage account. Remember, you don't own them.... you're just a beneficiary.

The truth is, the securities you purchased and paid for with your hard earned money is collateral for the United Nations which is backed by the Federal Reserve System and it's associated agencies, such as the International Monetary Fund. Is it any wonder that the UN can operate year after year with increasing budgets, but without sufficient funds? The UN has nearly $19 Trillion of backing and reserves, thanks to millions of duped Americans. We are financing the New World Dis-Order with our stocks and bonds.

I really hate the UN, so I'm not real happy to read these last paragraphs. This stuff is quite weird and scarey!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Another piece of the unknown cert puzzle:

quote:
- if, IF stock opens on nasdaq, says that if shares are to be covered ben wants to be contacted within 24-48 hours in order to do so...NO grace period for shorters. "we're gonna hit em so hard with so much stuff...they're not gonna have an opportunity to cover."
So if Rufus isn't going to give the shorts an opportunity to cover, then what will happen to the "air shares"? It would seem there would be no squeeze and those without certs would be screwed.

I guess this is saying that the shorts would have 48 hours to cover, but it also says that Rufus doesn't believe that will be enough time to do so.

This is making my head hurt!!!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
see..you still avoid the question... [Wink]
BUT...at least you know whats going on...
Just like the rest of us do...(yeah right)
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...sounds like some great plays!!
AND? ya'll never answered when asked ...did ya ever get in this?
Do you not agree that the "basher", "hype", Paid PR bash crap slinging, "star figure" message board tales have been unreal with this?

Please tell me that this DOES not happen with all geek plays!!!

to me, this is *the MF* of geek plays...lol

those lil, odd-filings' dealies? most never even show up on a board...


sorry, thought that was directed elsewhere as my stance is consistent: been a few days I would've bought for flips--particularly after the gap-fill to .13-ish. Most recently, I wanted to buy around a buck before the $4 spike...alas, my schedule simply prevented my doing so. As far as holding for the promised land? My take has been that if this gets pulled off, there will be more... I won't gamble on a hold with something like this.

Great flipper, though...and certainly a Geek Hall Of Famer, worthy of study and research.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Whats up CSHD people? Weird day today. I should have flipped the $hit out of it, but alas...I didn't.... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Anyone talked with rufus or ben?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Whats up CSHD people? Weird day today. I should have flipped the $hit out of it, but alas...I didn't.... [Big Grin]

If we were privy to the same info as the MM's. yep it would have been a great time to flip but alas we are only pawns in this game and must react with lighting fast moves. When I grow up I want to have the info at the same time the MM's and friends do.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Anyone want to start taking bets on opening and EOD?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Anyone want to start taking bets on opening and EOD?

In Chicago it's 8am and 3pm. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Haha and its 6am 1pm here. :-P

Smart aleck.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Haha and its 6am 1pm here. :-P

Smart aleck.

OOPs you lost. It's 6:30AM PST and 1PM PST. I think I finally won. [Big Grin]

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Haha and its 6am 1pm here. :-P

Smart aleck.

OOPs you lost. It's 6:30AM PST and 1PM PST. I think I finally won. [Big Grin]

GLTA
Wally

Yea, I may give it to you, but I count that first 1/2 hour in the morning. That's when I really start seeing things start to come through. You got me on a technicality!
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Oh my clock is off 30 minutes in the morning then catches up by 1, yes.. So on my clock, its 6am.

arrr.. you win.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
2.33 open, 2.04 close
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Ok, im still in the belief that there is some major software / operating system deal on the table. The COBRA or CORBA was something i found interesting and now the "hint" about the nephew of the richest man in the world. Tut says the richest man is not Ingvar Kamprad, which would make Gates next in line right? Well, maybe the hint was just that....a hint. Here is someone coined as Bill Gates nephew but not actually his nephew. A young brain child by the name of Rupert. I only have a few minutes from time to time to research things but i found this interesting.

http://www.xent.com/apr99/0079.html

The thing is though, Rupert and / or Gates would not need to meet with Rufus for anything. What could CSHD do to benefit them, nothing likely.

Anyway, just playing around trying to find links. [Smile]

Hehe, is this our future? Dennis the menace?

http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/9913/features-barcott.php

Last thing.....is he....Tut?
 
Posted by Drumdude101 on :
 
Hey! Ok guys, so is it going to be Reset THISMORNING.....i am having trouble figuring out exactly when it is going to be reset....i want to buy more BUT i fear that the money will not transfer in time to buy when it is still kinda low im in at .97 right now but only 200 shares and i want to get in more like 1,000 shares and it would take me like 4 days toget the money to be tradable after i sell my other stocks and stuff b/c i don't have a margin account! THANKS guys for being so helpful!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Good Morning Board...

I don't think that being ON or OFF the NOBO list is the question that we need to ask ourselves...

The NOBO list is a list of people who hold shares, and,...-that list says that there are MORE shares then what the company issued out!

Understand....?

So you are on the list, great, there are only 110 million REAL shares and say 200 million shares out there (round numbers)that people own, hey that doesn't add up does it!

So then WHO on the NOBO list gets the actual shares? That's the question!!!!

All this time we have been OUT of shares that is why there are naked shorts!!! -Because there are "NO SHARES."

If you bought today, yesterday a month ago... IMO YOU BOUGHT AIR!!! Selling air, buying air!

Your broker is on the NOBO and it says they own xxxxx amount of shares, this other broker owns xxxxxx many, -etc....

But CSHD says there IS ONLY THIS many shares!!
SO NOW WHAT HAPPENS?

That's the problem ~

It's NOT just a matter of being on the list, we all I'm sure are on it if you think about it, most are on it in your Brokers name, get your certs and YOUR name appears on the list....

SO WHAT?!!
You're just another name on a list!
Aren't you?...
"SECOND" in line too, so incourt don't you think that it would be logical for a judge to give the "real" shares to the ones who were there "first?" --The Brokers...

I've bought shares at .10 when it was FHAL, I'd be LUCKY if THOSE were real!!

Do you see the problem?...

It's MUCH bigger then being on the NOBO list...
That's the smoke screen...

The question is.... "WHO" on the nobo list will get the shares?!! Small money, or the brokers? First come first serve? So the Brokers only get them? How is that fair? We bought REAL (we thought) shares! Isn't that fraud?!

SEE the BIG PICTURE here....

"BIG MONEY,"
TDA, Scottrade, etc,... THEY were on the NOBO list FIRST! Always have been on the list from day one! Think you're going to get your shares ahead of them?..................

Riiiiiiight ~

What gives you the right, they were there first!

All this and this whole nightmare doesn't even need to be IMO... It's a scam of the rich!

What strikes me as VERY odd, is they say that the market NEEDS Naked Shorting to creat "liquidity"....

What a bunch of CRAP!!!....
THINK about it.

Hey, you need shares... Here's an idea...
RISE THE DAMN PPS!!!!

If a .01 cent pennystock raises to .50 cents,
--they'll have all the stinking shares they want or need!! Tell me I'm wrong! LOL ~

This whole system is a smoke screen and we've been fed it so much that we can't see what's going on right under our nose IMO!

Just because The SEC says it's needed Naked Shorting are we NOT supposed to question it?!!

To "Police" this the SEC puts up The SHO list, tells MM's that WHEN a stock reaches that threshold that thay can't Naked Short it anymore, AND IF THEY DO (-I thought they just said they couldn't?!!) and if they do,...
-they have to buy them back in 3 days time.

And,...the Naked Shorts that got the stock to the SHO list in the first place DON'T have to be covered because they are considered "Grandfathered" or were BEFORE the SHO list.

WTF IS THAT!!!!!???

They sold air to get it to the SHO and DON'T have to cover those, then they sell air while it's on the SHO, but have 3 days to cover!

The WHOLE thing STINKS, and IMO it DOES NOT make sense! When you fully understand it, does it make sense?!! -no way ~~~

I hope to GOD that Rufus DOES do something about this, cause clearly this was designed as a rich mans scam, and in my opinion, not even that clever of a ripoff!

So what does all this mean?....

That's the "ultimate Question."

Looks to me like if the little guy has ANY hope, it would have to be a concentrated effort to take away a "strong man's" (Brokers) money just like what Rufus is trying to do now.

and...

We should be able to trust Rufus cause he wants what we all want, the PPS to GO UP!! His stock has a good day we BOTH have a good day ~

Who else can we turn to or who else is going to do EVERYTHING in their power to stop this for us and raise our PPS to where it SHOULD BE?
Rufus' money IS our money!

Now, if and when we go to the NAZ and when those numbers don't add up, then the DTCC will pick who gets what, think your "John Doe" on a list will get you your shares? TDA is a bigger "John Doe" and does alot more business $$$$$$ then you do, THEY are WORTH more then you to the DTCC... That's the bottom line, and THEY were there registered FIRST before ANY of us were!

They "ARE" THE SYSTEM...

That's the tangled mess we're in!

My money is riding on Rufus, cause clearly he has shown us that he is "connected."

Rufus knows this WHOLE deal inside and out and he's making sure that CSHD will be known as...

"The little stock that could"
IMO ~

I think the ONLY reason the PPS is staying where it is, is because Rufus IS onto something...
What other reason is there?...

Good night all.
Still Long and Strong!
Chart ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Ok, im still in the belief that there is some major software / operating system deal on the table. The COBRA or CORBA was something i found interesting and now the "hint" about the nephew of the richest man in the world. Tut says the richest man is not Ingvar Kamprad, which would make Gates next in line right? Well, maybe the hint was just that....a hint. Here is someone coined as Bill Gates nephew but not actually his nephew. A young brain child by the name of Rupert. I only have a few minutes from time to time to research things but i found this interesting.

http://www.xent.com/apr99/0079.html

The thing is though, Rupert and / or Gates would not need to meet with Rufus for anything. What could CSHD do to benefit them, nothing likely.

Anyway, just playing around trying to find links. [Smile]

Hehe, is this our future? Dennis the menace?

http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/9913/features-barcott.php

Last thing.....is he....Tut?

haha...this was at the end of that article, lol...that was too funny...

quote:
Correction

There were a number of errors in the 4/1 cover story on Microsoft's Thought Recognition technology. Robert Warburg, an analyst with the Bay Area venture capital firm Klein & Fairfield, does not, as was implied in the article, exist. Nor does Klein & Fairfield. Microsoft has never employed Vikram Narayan, who does not exist. Workers from Vanstar do not deliver Dell PowerEdge processors and Precision 610 workstations to Building 8 every Monday morning. Microsoft does not keep an account with Radio Shack. Radio Shack does not employ an individual named Scott Roberts. The waitstaff at the Redmond Red Robin does not turn the bar televisions to Pokemon every afternoon. Russell Meyer does not publish the zine Faster Machine, Kill! Kill! Carnegie-Mellon Institute of Technology does not employ an individual named Daniel Rabelli. There is no newspaper called the Soap Lake Tribune. There is no such thing as the Foundation for Online Privacy based in Bethesda, Maryland. The Kansas University Cognitive Science Project does not employ E. Claire Winchell, who does not exist. Nine-year-old genius Rupert Tollefsen does not exist, although the editors would like to thank Andrew Rowny, his mother, Lori Larsen, and his grandmother, Greta Larsen, for lending his presence to our writer, Bruce Barcott, and photographer, Rick Dahms. Seattle Weekly apologizes for these, and other, unregrettable errors.


 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Old article on Rupert btw. I guess hes around 15 now.

Hmmm, he does not exist? Bah, Ok, ill need to ok ill dig more later.

This is what i get for having limited DD ability right now.

Im glad you found it funny [Smile]

[ October 06, 2006, 02:58: Message edited by: Mr. CATIAEngineer ]
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud?

http://www.atpm.com/3.04/page5.shtml

No matter the person's view on which person should head the company, everyone seems to agree that the multi-billion dollar global franchise that manufacturers the Mac can, like the legendary Phoenix, will rise again from its own ashes.

Written in April again....i hope its not another fools joke. heh [Smile]

[ October 06, 2006, 03:30: Message edited by: Mr. CATIAEngineer ]
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
And while searching for the Prince i found this guy.

http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/Fredex126

You KNOW im bored now. [Smile]

Of course Tut says we would all know him and i dont think i would know this guy

Or, or or....earlier in the thread i mentioned that the twin towers could "rise from the ashes" and maybe AISS has a hand in making the composite high heat materials. Well, the Prince tried to donate 10 million dollars to the rebuilding of the towers but it was turned down by Giulinani. This was in 2001 however.

[ October 06, 2006, 04:05: Message edited by: Mr. CATIAEngineer ]
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Ok, last post i promise. And, this is my last guess for Tut. I think its Prince Alwaleed. Major philanthropist and majorly rich. Huge investor and could write Arabic quotes like the best of them. I also believe he is the person that bought up a large amount of the float some time ago.

Good reading here. This is all IMO of course. Tut may be crazy....which makes me totally nuts i guess. If it is the Prince we are in for a helluva ride

http://www.europeanbusiness.eu.com/features/2006/oct/knight.html

"The mere mention of Alwaleed investing in companies is enough to increase interest in them and make more investors buy the stocks in anticipation of an upturn in their fortunes. So, as demand exceeds supply, the share prices rise and the prophecy that the prince can turn companies around becomes self-fulfi lling. For example, in December 2005 Alwaleed told a Japanese newspaper he was interested in investing in Sony; its shares rose 5% on the news."

[ October 06, 2006, 04:23: Message edited by: Mr. CATIAEngineer ]
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Ok, last post i promise. And, this is my last guess for Tut. I think its Prince Alwaleed. Major philanthropist and majorly rich. Huge investor and could write Arabic quotes like the best of them. I also believe he is the person that bought up a large amount of the float some time ago.

Good reading here. This is all IMO of course. Tut may be crazy....which makes me totally nuts i guess. If it is the Prince we are in for a helluva ride

http://www.europeanbusiness.eu.com/features/2006/oct/knight.html

"The mere mention of Alwaleed investing in companies is enough to increase interest in them and make more investors buy the stocks in anticipation of an upturn in their fortunes. So, as demand exceeds supply, the share prices rise and the prophecy that the prince can turn companies around becomes self-fulfi lling. For example, in December 2005 Alwaleed told a Japanese newspaper he was interested in investing in Sony; its shares rose 5% on the news."

Interesting pick- I did see a post from back in august where someone mentions contacting Awalweed via the forum to ask how many shares he is holding in CSHD. Here is the paste from HSM

I can't believe I am up this early [Wink]

fwiw-

[PASTE]
GuapoAug 21st, 2006, 12:52 AM
USXP tried the same thing, Arab investors. It didn't work.

Guapo

hey fellow longs, I hope everyone is doing super, sorry about you phil, it sux will miss u.
just wanted to tell you guys that while I was checking stock forums; you know daily routine, I saw an arabic forum of middleeastern investors; mainly saudiarabians, who trade in US markets. I speak arabic BTW, and you won't believe the boom CSHD has done over there. Kept googling for other US middleeastern stock forums; all in arabic, and there is literally a link of CSHD on each very active daily. Just a quick look at those forums tells you the number of international investors interested in CSHD is large!!. what came to my attention is a son of the famous Saudi Prince Buisnessman "Alwaleed Bin Talal" is actually talking about supporting his position that currently he is in. I don't know how many shares he bought so figured I would ask him. So I registerd for the forum and asked him of how much he bought? he refused to tell me but rather told me that he also daytrade of around 30k or so. He actually has a long position with CSHD. I don't want to bother you guys about who is Alwaleed, google it for fun. He is mad rich and an insider for a number of big Co.s in the US.. Ohh well, sleeping pill is taking effect right now
anyways, GLTA and see you tomorow. it is now 2:30 in the morning in the middleeast. Need to get some sleep. [Smile]

[END QUOTE]

http://www.ho tstockmarket.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-41282-p-12.html
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
Actually someone posted the same type message under a different Hotstock username a few pages back in the thread- so perhaps its a "pump" tactic-
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Well, the Prince being involved could be a dream but what a huge dream that would be. This guy is very serious. I like how they say when there is a disaster anywhere in the world the Prince is there with finances. Im sticking to this pick. He may might not be Tut himself but maybe its one of his advisors. Wow, it would be incredible.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
I dont know if this has been posted yet. I found it while reading about Patrick Byrne of overstock.com

http://www.ncans.net/

Inside that site you will find this link. If this stuff was posted before im surprised i missed.

http://www.thesanitycheck.com/

So much for my last post eh? I need something to fill my breaks over here. [Smile]

[ October 06, 2006, 06:13: Message edited by: Mr. CATIAEngineer ]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
Earlier in the evening someone was posting as me in Paltalk and a lot of you thought I was there. When I said I was not, I was not. Then after that incidence I was invited via PM by dogman to come into Paltalk as a guest, partially to clear up the confusion created by an imposter posing as me and partially because the Paltalk members wanted to ask the same questions I try to answer here. My intial reaction was no.

When I realized that we have been fighting a very intensive and ugly war with all kinds of manoevers by the shorts to shake your belief I saw the possibility of another tactic in the making by using an imposter to create dissension amongst our own. I decided then it was best to extinguish what may have developed into another weapon for the enemy to use against you. The fire had to be put out before it spread.

In the process I believe we may have created a larger and more powerful army of believers to fight this battle. I was asked the same questions as on our HSM forum and the response was very positive and welcomed. I believe it was the right thing to do because it has only helped all HSM members by uniting us all in the same family with the same goals.

You are all brothers and sisters in the same battle and we will win this battle and you will be through the gates of victory, I have absolutely no doubt. We are very close to what we have all been waiting for and it will happen probably sooner than you all think but it will happen. I honestly do believe in your hearts and minds that you know you the answer because that is why you have held strong against the worst odds and you are still here. I know you don't like to hear the words "soon" or "close" but it is my firm belief that even you know now that it is "very close".

You are at the gates and you do know it. Your belief will not fail you.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
10of13...

Sounds like Tut from Luv's post was talking about this guy not Jesuspower1.

Originally Posted by tutankhamen
Earlier in the evening someone was posting as me in Paltalk and a lot of you thought I was there. When I said I was not, I was not.

Morning Board ~
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
I have it on now.. moserator at spinoffz sure did pump it

Which mod? There are many of us....lol.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
I have it on now.. moserator at spinoffz sure did pump it

Which mod? There are many of us....lol.
I don't remember now portman. He sure did like it and was not afraid to let us know.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
good morning. Hey chart I'm going to try and get in touch with cshd today about cross referencing the list. Technically my name should be in their book. I also wonder why they had us call the TA about the NOBO list when the TA said they had no access to it. So no big news released last night I take it. I'd rather have big news released either right before or right after the opening bell anyway. People tend to forget about after hours pr's.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
I have it on now.. moserator at spinoffz sure did pump it

Which mod? There are many of us....lol.
I don't remember now portman. He sure did like it and was not afraid to let us know.
If you are talking about SubPenny...that was SBtrader. He said that a few times. Not so much a pumper as a true believer. Real nice guy.
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Good morning...to another day of wild speculation?? Come on with the 10K. I was thinking about that ghost dividend overnight...What if the dividend was actually a split. 2 for 1 (double the book price) to load up the shorts, and then revalue at the original $15.00...This would wipe out the shorts and make the holders of the stock happy by getting there umpteen dollars or more for there shares...Any opinions?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Good morning. Chart, did you sleep at all last night. For you to think through everything you did, that brain of yours must be in perpetiual high gear. [Big Grin]

Great post and train of thought...although it does scare me a bit. My question is this though, how could Etrade turn around and tell me that in reality I don't have any shares and that I'm out of luck. That would scream lawsuit, and I just don't see how they could possibly win that one. Am I missing something here?
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
I thought I was going to see news this morning? Wasn't there supposed to be some PR last night?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
No rufas just said they were waiting on a doc and expected it by 5pm...we were just hoping to hear what it was maybe today we may get some info...
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
FWIW......these are Tut's posts across last evening since the market closed yesterday......
from the "CSHD - 10/2 Amazon Log Deal, Incredible interview with Rufus and Ben." on HSM

http://www.hot stoc k market.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43023

Does anyone have an idea of what was said on PalTalk ?
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Yesterday, 04:23 PM #5006
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 205
Quote:
Originally Posted by PenETrader
Tut just asked Simon on subpenny if insiders can legally post on message boards. LOL


!!!

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Yesterday, 04:26 PM #5018
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 205
Quote:
Originally Posted by tchamblee67
Tut, does that mean it wasn't you?

It most definitely was not!!!

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Yesterday, 10:10 PM #5987
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 205
I want to make it very clear I am not posting on any other forum (Paltalk) or any radio. Someone is obviously using my name.

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Today, 01:24 AM #6274
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 205
Just for everyones information this time I was on because I was invited and I believe it will be for the good of all of you here on HSM also. Earlier I was not on when I said I wasn't. To clear up confusion about the imposter it was for the best. I will be back in a few minutes.

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Today, 02:32 AM #6302
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 205
For you that are still awake, I am back and I will say something in approximately 10 minutes.

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Today, 03:35 AM #6378
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 205
Earlier in the evening someone was posting as me in Paltalk and a lot of you thought I was there. When I said I was not, I was not. Then after that incidence I was invited via PM by dogman to come into Paltalk as a guest, partially to clear up the confusion created by an imposter posing as me and partially because the Paltalk members wanted to ask the same questions I try to answer here. My intial reaction was no.

When I realized that we have been fighting a very intensive and ugly war with all kinds of manoevers by the shorts to shake your belief I saw the possibility of another tactic in the making by using an imposter to create dissension amongst our own. I decided then it was best to extinguish what may have developed into another weapon for the enemy to use against you. The fire had to be put out before it spread.

In the process I believe we may have created a larger and more powerful army of believers to fight this battle. I was asked the same questions as on our HSM forum and the response was very positive and welcomed. I believe it was the right thing to do because it has only helped all HSM members by uniting us all in the same family with the same goals.

You are all brothers and sisters in the same battle and we will win this battle and you will be through the gates of victory, I have absolutely no doubt. We are very close to what we have all been waiting for and it will happen probably sooner than you all think but it will happen. I honestly do believe in your hearts and minds that you know you the answer because that is why you have held strong against the worst odds and you are still here. I know you don't like to hear the words "soon" or "close" but it is my firm belief that even you know now that it is "very close".

You are at the gates and you do know it. Your belief will not fail you.

__________________________________________________________________

Today, 03:50 AM #6392
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 205
Quote:
Originally Posted by dgambar8
Thanks for going on paltalk friend. It was cool to have you.

You are welcome. The pleasure was mine because I firmly believe it will help everyone.

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Today, 04:01 AM #6395
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 205
Quote:
Originally Posted by 123cuervo
well tut, we are going to need at least a pr today...

Let us all ask Rufus. Maybe he will?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Good morning. Chart, did you sleep at all last night. For you to think through everything you did, that brain of yours must be in perpetiual high gear. [Big Grin]

Great post and train of thought...although it does scare me a bit. My question is this though, how could Etrade turn around and tell me that in reality I don't have any shares and that I'm out of luck. That would scream lawsuit, and I just don't see how they could possibly win that one. Am I missing something here?

Now when it comes down to a lawsuit... "who would win?"

"Big Money would"

How?...

By saying that they were there "first" and that the market is first come first serve...

About that post:
I'm just trying to think outloud about every angle I can, be it right or wrong to see just how this could work out, or how we could get screwed...

Remember someone here posted that article about TDAmeriturd selling off people's shares, some even at a LOSS to them?...

We're fighting BIG MONEY.
And I can't get a warm and fuzzy feeling just because my names on a list, just being real here so we can better make decissions hopefully.

I'm REALLY looking forward to Rufus' next PT aboutthat Gov Document!

GL today all!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Nice piece of work Bucky!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Yes, today might be interestnig and it may just be another day.

I missed Tut last night but it seems he did quite well.

I have a theory that I will not comment on until after this plays out. If it is right cool...if not...all the better.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
as far as I can tell, and I may be wrong but rufus's main point was to have your name on the list. Today I'll be trying to track someone down at cshd that can give me a clear and concise answer. For some reason it doesn't sit right with me that rufus told us to call the TA, and see if our names were on the list. the TA told us they had no access to the list therefore they couldn't tell us anything. The TA told us or me at least that I would have to talk to my broker to see if I was on the list. Somethings just not adding up for me at the moment. I might be missing something though.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
Yes, today might be interestnig and it may just be another day.

I missed Tut last night but it seems he did quite well.

I have a theory that I will not comment on until after this plays out. If it is right cool...if not...all the better.

You TEASE!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it doesn't count if this all pans out and you release your theory. saying this was my theory and it worked exactly like I thought [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
it doesn't count if this all pans out and you release your theory. saying this was my theory and it worked exactly like I thought [Big Grin]

Yea, no fair. I put my ridiculous theories out for all to see. Your turn!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
it doesn't count if this all pans out and you release your theory. saying this was my theory and it worked exactly like I thought [Big Grin]

Yea, no fair. I put my ridiculous theories out for all to see. Your turn!! [Big Grin]
That's what Brainstorming is all about!
 
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
 
MR.CATIA,you missed earlier talk of who gets opening bell earliest,I think you win!6;00 am was the last,so what time do you get it?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Ahhh chit!!

-I'm outta Rolaids.... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ocqueoc on :
 
Cat,never mind,I think I'm arse backwards haha .6 hours ahead for you, I'm confused, too much reading this am.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
rolaids I'm way past that now I'm moving on to lithium [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
chart this is a line from the pr released Sept 20th. It almost sounds like if you just requested you're certs you're sol now anyway. it's a very weird situation. If you recall way back when we were still fhal rufus said there was no need for fhal shareholders to get their certs. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing. I just want to get to the bottom of this for everyone.

Ben Stanley, COO, stated, 'Our actions have always been to insure the well being of our shareholders. For this reason we are going to work closely with the SEC and all institutional holders to quickly and fairly resolve this issue by September 29, 2006, the last day of certificate exchange.'
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ha ~ Ryan.

If there's no PR all day we might need it!

ps. Market is open Monday, but Edgar filings will not be...

So 10k could first come out Tueday???

Don't know why Rufus would drop THE BOMB today, just wouldn't seem to fit IMO.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart this is a line from the pr released Sept 20th. It almost sounds like if you just requested you're certs you're sol now anyway. it's a very weird situation. If you recall way back when we were still fhal rufus said there was no need for fhal shareholders to get their certs. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing. I just want to get to the bottom of this for everyone.

Ben Stanley, COO, stated, 'Our actions have always been to insure the well being of our shareholders. For this reason we are going to work closely with the SEC and all institutional holders to quickly and fairly resolve this issue by September 29, 2006, the last day of certificate exchange.'

Don't you think most of the air-shares started in the shorting of FHAL when it ran up to 1.60 that first time? Or were those regular and not naked shorts?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
One thing I don't understand is how do you get the wrong dates on documents etc..? Also is Rufas and co. just trying to show peeps like he said about taxprincess to just do as your told if you dont you will lose? Is he really trying to help? Well I believe he only wants absolute strong and long shareholders in his co. and if you get scared and sell easily he feels you deserve what you get? Maybe I am wrong.... Sounds like he hasn't convinced a lot of peeps if they keep flippin and selling... Guess that was his point...also why tut speaks to hsm only? Mostly it seems if you say something negative about the stock etc even asking about something neg they kick you off and seems those peeps aren't as nice to newcomers if they ask something because they didn't read 5000 pages of previous pages to find it... why wouldn't they want to repeat it? I know it gets old but wouldn't you want a lil help if you got there late too? I mean what if a big institution came along and asked I bet they'd be hipocrites and everyone would spout it from the top of their lungs cause they would think the big guy would invest and help the pps? Then who would have the last laugh if they tanked it instead LOL?! See what tut says we are brothers and sisters something like that so lets all help everyone we can geeze sometimes I wonder why peeps bring kids into this world to only go through life seeing how rude peeps are .....ugh just sick of the rudeness and ruthlessness and oh well you get the pic.... [Wink] smile it may be a good day....
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Morning all - sorry I haven't read the pages from last night - do we know if Rufus got his document yesterday?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart this is a line from the pr released Sept 20th. It almost sounds like if you just requested you're certs you're sol now anyway. it's a very weird situation. If you recall way back when we were still fhal rufus said there was no need for fhal shareholders to get their certs. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing. I just want to get to the bottom of this for everyone.

Ben Stanley, COO, stated, 'Our actions have always been to insure the well being of our shareholders. For this reason we are going to work closely with the SEC and all institutional holders to quickly and fairly resolve this issue by September 29, 2006, the last day of certificate exchange.'

Well since nobody knows, who HAS the right to argue?

I'm just trying to figure out the most logical way things will work out, the only way to do that is to get everyone's thoughts, weigh that all out and then make the best guess you can...

According to my last long post above that school of thought seems to agree with you....
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Good morning all! ... that move, by the mm's yesterday, was put on us as a surprise attack! They knew the amended extension, correcting the date, was coming and built there attack around it. I ain' budgin'!

I am long in this for the duration ... I have not sold one share yet. The fundamentals, as described in the pr's and mainly the 8k's, etc., are undeniably very strong and would put Rufus & Co away for a long time, if these are all lies.

I am holding for the 10k, reset, and will evaluate better at that time as to when I might sell some. Personally I see 100's and even 1,000's in future pps given the info at hand, JMO.

Chart, Rat, etal, A few days ago, I got active L2's and can see alot and am looking for a good tutorial ... can anyone recommend something ... Thanks!

GLTA today!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart this is a line from the pr released Sept 20th. It almost sounds like if you just requested you're certs you're sol now anyway. it's a very weird situation. If you recall way back when we were still fhal rufus said there was no need for fhal shareholders to get their certs. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing. I just want to get to the bottom of this for everyone.

Ben Stanley, COO, stated, 'Our actions have always been to insure the well being of our shareholders. For this reason we are going to work closely with the SEC and all institutional holders to quickly and fairly resolve this issue by September 29, 2006, the last day of certificate exchange.'

Don't you think most of the air-shares started in the shorting of FHAL when it ran up to 1.60 that first time? Or were those regular and not naked shorts?
I don't know dog. In your new Merrill lynch account are your shares held in street name? I imagine they would be, but you opted for your information to be passed on the companies you own correct. That's being put on the list basically. I could be way off and Merrill holds them in your name.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart this is a line from the pr released Sept 20th. It almost sounds like if you just requested you're certs you're sol now anyway. it's a very weird situation. If you recall way back when we were still fhal rufus said there was no need for fhal shareholders to get their certs. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing. I just want to get to the bottom of this for everyone.

Ben Stanley, COO, stated, 'Our actions have always been to insure the well being of our shareholders. For this reason we are going to work closely with the SEC and all institutional holders to quickly and fairly resolve this issue by September 29, 2006, the last day of certificate exchange.'

Don't you think most of the air-shares started in the shorting of FHAL when it ran up to 1.60 that first time? Or were those regular and not naked shorts?
yep dog... that's why I said in my other long post that even my FHAL shares might have been air, no one can claim they are safe IMO ~
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
...don't we normally start seeing some early trades or some activity? I'm not showing anything this moring yet. Anyone see anything?
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
MR.CATIA,you missed earlier talk of who gets opening bell earliest,I think you win!6;00 am was the last,so what time do you get it?

Well, if its still trading on the berlin exchange then i guess i win. WAY before any of you are awake. [Wink]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey chart on what date did you request your certs. was it after the 29th?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart this is a line from the pr released Sept 20th. It almost sounds like if you just requested you're certs you're sol now anyway. it's a very weird situation. If you recall way back when we were still fhal rufus said there was no need for fhal shareholders to get their certs. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing. I just want to get to the bottom of this for everyone.

Ben Stanley, COO, stated, 'Our actions have always been to insure the well being of our shareholders. For this reason we are going to work closely with the SEC and all institutional holders to quickly and fairly resolve this issue by September 29, 2006, the last day of certificate exchange.'

Don't you think most of the air-shares started in the shorting of FHAL when it ran up to 1.60 that first time? Or were those regular and not naked shorts?
I don't know dog. In your new Merrill lynch account are your shares held in street name? I imagine they would be, but you opted for your information to be passed on the companies you own correct. That's being put on the list basically. I could be way off and Merrill holds them in your name.
Merrill is holding them in street name with "full disclosure". They state that they are my shares no matter what. It's bigger money than Scottrade, could work for me or against me, but their reputation is on the line. I may request certs, but not sure if that really helps anything... if Rufus can't solve the problem... the PPS is going in the toilet anyways... why make it so you can't sell?
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Good morning all.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
we're gaping down [Mad]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
The last few days have been a play to cover what they could and short and recover to offset future losses if the MMs really have misstepped.

I am not sure they think they will ever have to cover pre-SHO shorted stocks so they just sit out there for now and dilute our PPS. Until they are gone there is less pressure for the PPS to rise.

The short positions must be eliminated for us to rise further.

Remember Rufus said those MM's out there * $5 are not there to sell air.

The board is set...let the games continue.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Good morning all... are we bickering already?

Who here kknows the plan for today? Not me. I am just going with Rufas's statements on Subpeny. 1.) This will we an interesting week. (Sofar it has been average, so he had better do something to spice it up today. 2.) this week there will be a "short elimination". (So far they seem to still be running around causing little shorty havoc all over the place.)

He didn't say how, or what was going down, but he hinted that it was going to be big. I have my popcorn, comfortable chair, and remote in hand. Rufas... "Don't make me change the channel!"

Let's see a more reasonable PPS EOD today. Like $7.21. [Smile]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
any one having a problem logging in to microcap feed.....
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Yea, I'm seeing volume of 1,000. That should be enough for them to drop it down nice an big, huh? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Not me surfer.
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Perhaps already noticed so forgive if I am repeating this observation....
pulled up the www.cvsu.us website just now and noticed chage to home page......shows different title....CSHD FLASH SITE.......and L2 dispolay at bottom of page when scroll down.....any one else seeing same?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'd like to that share price. Heck I'd love to see the thing stay over 2.5 for right now [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hey chart on what date did you request your certs. was it after the 29th?

Good question!

I posted that I was going to get my certs, with the swings I was going to try one last flip in one of the 3 accounts I have, I didn't flip, and I have not requested certs yet either...

been thinking HARD about it all, hence the long post last night... and from what that train of thought produced I don't know if certs would 100% cure the problem. But I believe I would like a percentage to go very long with CSHD, I do believe they will pound forward so I still am thinking about the certs...

It's a damn mess making sense of it all....
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
we're gaping down [Mad]

Well, yeah... they shorted shares all the way to 2.20...they need to cover them. Lower highs and lower lows.

It is not about the game for the longs...it is about the reset. Winner takes all in this one. Or, did some not understand that?
 
Posted by Kelroz on :
 
What if Rufus wants us to get certs as those are the only ppl to get the $15 buyout.

He could do a paper exchange for the funds. You send CSHD the cert and they will send you your $15?

That would shaft a ton of shareholders, but the lawsuits against the brokerages would be huge.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
any one having a problem logging in to microcap feed.....

I can't log on microcapfeed either... must be down.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
I,ll be leaving for Amsterdam soon and will be carrying a blackberry. So, someone *cough dog* better email me if something comes up! [Wink]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hey chart on what date did you request your certs. was it after the 29th?

Good question!

I posted that I was going to get my certs, with the swings I was going to try one last flip in one of the 3 accounts I have, I didn't flip, and I have not requested certs yet either...

been thinking HARD about it all, hence the long post last night... and from what that train of thought produced I don't know if certs would 100% cure the problem. But I believe I would like a percentage to go very long with CSHD, I do believe they will pound forward so I still am thinking about the certs...

It's a damn mess making sense of it all....

The game is ... if the vast majority of shareholders request certs then a cover must happen by default. Hence Rufus telling us the PPS prior to reset is our responsibility...post it is his. I am pretty sure we are teh delaying item and Rufus is now forced to try to force this another way.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kelroz:
What if Rufus wants us to get certs as those are the only ppl to get the $15 buyout.

He could do a paper exchange for the funds. You send CSHD the cert and they will send you your $15?

That would shaft a ton of shareholders, but the lawsuits against the brokerages would be huge.

I thinks its more than a shaft, i dont think its legal. Shareholders MUST be treated equally. If, for some reason, our shares are not "real" then something would need to be done. Its not likely that you will be treated differently if you have certs or electronic shares.

I will be flipping out from overseas if something like that started to materialize
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
[/qb]

Merrill is holding them in street name with "full disclosure". They state that they are my shares no matter what. It's bigger money than Scottrade, could work for me or against me, but their reputation is on the line. I may request certs, but not sure if that really helps anything... if Rufus can't solve the problem... the PPS is going in the toilet anyways... why make it so you can't sell? [/QB][/QUOTE]

I agree with if rufus can't solve the problem I don't want to be hamstringed by not being able to sell. Dog if you remember the the option you checked for full disclosure was that sec rule 14b-1(c).
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
I,ll be leaving for Amsterdam soon and will be carrying a blackberry. So, someone *cough dog* better email me if something comes up! [Wink]

Gotcha covered Cat. We'll either win or lose... so fast that none of us can do anything about it anyways.

Going to Amsterdam... and you expect us to feel sorry for you?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:

Merrill is holding them in street name with "full disclosure". They state that they are my shares no matter what. It's bigger money than Scottrade, could work for me or against me, but their reputation is on the line. I may request certs, but not sure if that really helps anything... if Rufus can't solve the problem... the PPS is going in the toilet anyways... why make it so you can't sell? [/QB]
I agree with if rufus can't solve the problem I don't want to be hamstringed by not being able to sell. Dog if you remember the the option you checked for full disclosure was that sec rule 14b-1(c). [/QB][/QUOTE]


Yes... the NOBO box... BB did it too. It's supposed to let the company know we are out here... name and address... even if you have Scotty shares... should you not be able to allow "full disclosure"?
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
I,ll be leaving for Amsterdam soon and will be carrying a blackberry. So, someone *cough dog* better email me if something comes up! [Wink]

Gotcha covered Cat. We'll either win or lose... so fast that none of us can do anything about it anyways.

Going to Amsterdam... and you expect us to feel sorry for you?

Im not worried about win or lose. I just NEEEEED to know when i have lost or won. [Smile]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Talk about manipulation.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:

Merrill is holding them in street name with "full disclosure". They state that they are my shares no matter what. It's bigger money than Scottrade, could work for me or against me, but their reputation is on the line. I may request certs, but not sure if that really helps anything... if Rufus can't solve the problem... the PPS is going in the toilet anyways... why make it so you can't sell?


I agree with if rufus can't solve the problem I don't want to be hamstringed by not being able to sell. Dog if you remember the the option you checked for full disclosure was that sec rule 14b-1(c). [/QB]
Yes... the NOBO box... BB did it too. It's supposed to let the company know we are out here... name and address... even if you have Scotty shares... should you not be able to allow "full disclosure"? [/QB][/QUOTE]

dog ameritrade has the same option did you see the email I sent to them and the response I got back?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Right but also remember rufas said he would try to help those who proves they had shares mo he doesnt have to do that its ur broker who had to do that so if he does help then great to those who needed the help if he does...if not who would you blame? It would be a very long time to get your $ if it went thru a lawsuit right? But i believe he means certs for cvsu and fhal made to change to cshd either way we all have opinions he wasnt as clear on that....
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I hear Bruce this morning!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I really like that song repo just not today.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Don't remember it Ryan.. they wouldn't do it?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Repo ~ you hear Bruce every morning. It really isn't anything special.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
any one having a problem logging in to microcap feed.....

I can't log on microcapfeed either... must be down.
I got it now..
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I'm really getting tired of this crap every day. I'm tired of promises...time to show your hand Rufus. This is starting to wear on me!

...ok, I feel better now.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
here it is dog
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
wow guys check out the email I just got back from ameritrade. This is in response to an email I sent earlier today. I feel so much better right now.

Mr. XXXXXXXXX,

Please accept my apologies regarding the previous correspondence related to the NOBO list. According to our records, I show that you are on the list of NOBO for CSHD.

Laurie W.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.

This was a response to this email I sent them

I understand why you hold my shares in street name. I however don't understand how I can't be placed on a NOBO list it seems like a violation of SEC rule 14b-1(c). Which states:


Under rule 14b-1(c) of the Securities Exchange Act, we are required to disclose to an issuer the name, address, and securities position of our customers who are beneficial owners of that issuer's securities unless the customer objects.


 
Posted by Vin on :
 
How can this drop so far on so few shares?????
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
I'm really getting tired of this crap every day. I'm tired of promises...time to show your hand Rufus. This is starting to wear on me!

...ok, I feel better now.

understand, vin
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
jeez not sure if I want to look at them though...lol
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
silly mms.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Rufus said he'd give em a chance to cover. Maybe this is the final chance.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
How low will this go today? Price is going south now. 1.93 x 1.94.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Uuuugggllllyy L2's.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
How can this drop so far on so few shares?????

Manipulation
Grrrrrrr
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
So if they are walking this down, what do they know that we don't? I am guessing they know there is no 10-K in the system. Anyones thoughts? The longs are not selling so where are they getting 300K shares they used to sink this 0.30 this morning?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:

Merrill is holding them in street name with "full disclosure". They state that they are my shares no matter what. It's bigger money than Scottrade, could work for me or against me, but their reputation is on the line. I may request certs, but not sure if that really helps anything... if Rufus can't solve the problem... the PPS is going in the toilet anyways... why make it so you can't sell?

I agree with if rufus can't solve the problem I don't want to be hamstringed by not being able to sell. Dog if you remember the the option you checked for full disclosure was that sec rule 14b-1(c). [/QB]
Yes... the NOBO box... BB did it too. It's supposed to let the company know we are out here... name and address... even if you have Scotty shares... should you not be able to allow "full disclosure"? [/QB][/QUOTE]

I talked to Scottrade yesterday, they automatically allow shareholder info to be released to companies, one would have to request in writing to change that.
It was funny, when I mentioned Rule 14b-1(c), the guy had no idea what I was talking about.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
who's got that link for the institutional buyer chart found? I wonder if it shows an increase in their holdings
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
They either still dont believe or they believe completely and are trying to bring it back down under that 1.66 range to cover.

Im guessing they still dont believe and they are just running it into the ground. They will either win or go broke trying.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
looking adding more... funds finally in there... where you seeing this chart, maumee, jmoove....?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
With the price drop, I'm surprised the bashers haven't shown their faces around here and talking their chit.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
It's going to bump up... ARCA at 2.19 on ask... I hope [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I bet if you try and buy under 2 they jump the price 0.10 on you.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
With the price drop, I'm surprised the bashers haven't shown their faces around here and talking their chit.

yeah where's repo? lol
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
he's already stopped by new.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
With the price drop, I'm surprised the bashers haven't shown their faces around here and talking their chit.

yeah where's repo? lol
Right here... DOWN GOES FRAZIER.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I hear Bruce this morning!

Now I do not really care for most of Repo's posts but of late he has been pretty polite and I respect that effort.

Like my previous posts...

The PPS will continue to post new lows until a squeeze is effected or the reset. It is just logical.

Weather the storm or get out. Those are your only options.

Portman has his parka on. It's an all or nothing game for the longs. Flippers have a different battle to fight.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I feel it is time for some interesting news to come out.....
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it seems lately that nite and view stiffle any upward movement. I hate those guys
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
not that it makes a difference I've been trying to call rufus or ben. To straighten the whole certs issue everyone's having yesterday they weren't in the office I've been trying cells nothing. This is the first time I called
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
not that it makes a difference I've been trying to call rufus or ben. To straighten the whole certs issue everyone's having yesterday they weren't in the office I've been trying cells nothing. This is the first time I called

Rufuas has indicated repeatedly...It is his recomendation to get certs.

*Disclaimer...I have not requested my certs.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Hmmm, maybe i should get to a phone and try calling. The international caller ID might get their attention. [Smile]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
yeah! got me more!!!!!!!!lol
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Painful to look at this morning. I was ready to buy more the other day and figured I'd wait for it to drop but this is rediculous.

Common 10K, common revalue, common anything! [Confused]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
not necessary though. I think he would like that so if this plays out a bunch of people don't dump all of the sudden. Let me just say if he pulls this off I will not be dumping at 15.00
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I might try to call today as well. A local numer on the caller ID might make them pickup as well.

I just want to know about the certs.

I still don't see how we can get screwed, but I have no doubt it is possible.

No matter what the deal, I can't pull certs from my Roth anyway with out penalties.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Here is part of the response from Etrade regarding the quick transfer option. It MIGHT be temporary. That would be nice

"Please bear in mind that this policy to the transfer of assets may not be permanent. We unfortunately have had to implement measures to insure that trades are being performed with fully settled and cleared funds. This has resulted in us having to extend the time taken for quick transferred funds to be available for investment or withdrawal. I can only apologize for the delays this has caused you. I will note your dissatisfaction with our compliance department."
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
this is going to get very ugly today.imo
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Bloodbath in the streets!
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
The charts will tell us by noon where this thing is going. Its hard to speculate within the first half hour or so of trading. I predicted a low of 1.80 yesterday. That happened. I also said it could go to a dollar if it went beyond 1.80 which it didn't and thus it climbed above the 1.80. I'm watching the charts.
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
1.89... my account just went red. Ugly but holding.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
didn't rufas at one time say if this was trading at 1.75 we'd have a nasdaq stock?... be interesting to see what will happen if this gets down to that price
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
1.83 next support (intraday)
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Very quiet here today...
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Received this response from Scottrade by email:

"Dear Mr. XXXXXX"

Thank you for your email. Your shares of CSHD are in fact on the NOBO
list and will remain on the list unless you request them to be removed.
The shares held your Scottrade account are legitimate CSHD shares.

Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,
Matt R.
Scottrade Financial Services, Inc.
Scottrade has been named Highest in Investor Satisfaction With Online
Trading Services Six Times in a Row by J.D. Power and Associates. For
award information, visit www.jdpower.com.
 
Posted by Mantux on :
 
I thought $3 was the min for getting listed on nasdaq. Anyone know for certain?
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Bloodbath in the streets!

Understatement if you ask me. I think this was expected without news though. I would not be surprised if it sinks all day
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
This would be a good day to go outside and do lawn work IMO.....
NOT going to be pretty IMO ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I don't think we've seen anything yet. If rufus doesn't release everything early next week I think we're really going to see a bloodbath. Now hopefully that won't happen.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
$5 is the minimum for NASDAQ, however, in some exceptions, $4 is. NOT $3.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
This would be a good day to go outside and do lawn work IMO.....
NOT going to be pretty IMO ~

hey chart~ My yard need raking are you offering your services? [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
This would be a good day to go outside and do lawn work IMO.....
NOT going to be pretty IMO ~

hey chart~ My yard need raking are you offering your services? [Wink]
Boy is a door open there!! LOL ~~ [Wink]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
my L2's are goofed up....

Someone post please..
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Chart ~ I am optimistic. I think this will be a very green day. Just go mow you lawn. The value of our investment is backed by audited financials. This price movement is a bunch of chimps playing king of the mountain. Problem being is we all know an earthquake is comming. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
ENOUGH TALK RUFUS - TIME FOR ACTION!!!!!!!!!

We believe in you and shown our support so throw us a bone already!!

Like I said...

ENOUGH TALK - TIME FOR ACTION!!!! LET'S ROLL...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rat man what's your take?...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
thats what i thought too.... i just thought i remember hearing rufus say that in one of his interviews... thats all...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
IS THIS THE EXCITING WEEK WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR? MAN, I HOPE I CAN EAT THESE WORDS BY THE END OF THE DAY....
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
rat 1.89x1.90
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
exciting week right now I don't know what he was talking about. This if I recall has been a horrible week. One that's not over yet and rufus can turn into a spectacular week.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Remember...audited financials... this is worth at least what I put into it.

Would have been some great flips... but I don't live on the laptop.. despite what you see here.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Well good morning to you Jenna. Sticky finger stuck on CAP LOCK? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
that's what I'm banking on right now dog.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Just using the cap lock 'cause I'm frustrated. I think I need heart medication!

Good Morning Vin!
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
at this point I see no reason for the free-fall to stop.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Built a nice base here at 1.90. I think this might be our bottom for a little while. At least I sure hope so.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
We've seen this BS for months... let it go.

Walk away from the computer.... let the scared ones get shaken out of their shares.

Time to do a "Costanza"... watchin the tube in boxer shorts with a big block of cheese in hand... and not a care in the world.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Time to do a "Costanza"... watchin the tube in boxer shorts with a big block of cheese in hand... and not a care in the world.

kick *ss...

or go fly a kite, help an old person cross the street, build a birdhouse, play checkers with a child, etc...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
for what it's worth, I have not changed my stance on this stock. Those of us that have been here since FHAL have seen these same percentage swings - just at different price levels. We went through all the same anxiety and questioning back when it shot to 0.30+ and then retracted, then 0.80+ and then retracted, and 1.60 then retracted, back to 1.20 and retracted, etc., etc. If I'd say there is a difference for me now, it's that I find more solace now then before because we have all the PRs we didn't have early on - and not to mention the audited numbers. Without news, we all speculate this to death as the price works it's way back down. If history holds true on this stock, a big PR will come out and this thing will launch again and attitudes will ease, again. The question of whether we may get screwed has always been there - except at this point we've had over 3 months to beat it to death. It boils down to the same thing brought up in the first weeks of this - if you're not comfortable - make it so you are. If that means getting out - then get out. While there appears to be the potential for this to make a bunch of people very happy, it's not worth running yourself into the ground for it. And in Rufus's words - Godspeed.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I'm outta here for a while as well. Gonna prepare my garden for an early spring harvest of fresh crisp broccoli. Need to get mushroom compost, sand, vermiculite and a little lime to balance everything out. It's no "big block of cheese", but it gets me away from this madness!

On a happy note, my IPKL stock was up over 100% yesterday and currently up 38%! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
FWIW, Im going back to bed and pretend I havent woke up yet.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
bid ask
1.90x4 1.93x2
1.87x1 1.94x3
1.86x1 1.95x2
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
We've seen this BS for months... let it go.

Walk away from the computer.... let the scared ones get shaken out of their shares.

Time to do a "Costanza"... watchin the tube in boxer shorts with a big block of cheese in hand... and not a care in the world.

Dog,
Looks like we hit the same wavelength at the same time. GLTY
 
Posted by dog on :
 
That's the spirit people!

Set it and forget it.

Walk away... as long as we watch... we are prey for their games....

apathy... the nectar of the rich. LOL
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
I'm outta here for a while as well. Gonna prepare my garden for an early spring harvest of fresh crisp broccoli. Need to get mushroom compost, sand, vermiculite and a little lime to balance everything out. It's no "big block of cheese", but it gets me away from this madness!

On a happy note, my IPKL stock was up over 100% yesterday and currently up 38%! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Damn, why don't you share those type of picks???
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
I'm outta here for a while as well. Gonna prepare my garden for an early spring harvest of fresh crisp broccoli. Need to get mushroom compost, sand, vermiculite and a little lime to balance everything out. It's no "big block of cheese", but it gets me away from this madness!

On a happy note, my IPKL stock was up over 100% yesterday and currently up 38%! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Damn, why don't you share those type of picks???
It caught me off guard yesterday. Good volume, but with no news, I really didn't expect this jump. I actually got on this stock when all the problems with the mining cave-ins started up. They've got some pretty decent technology.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
actual have a little bid support at 1.93
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by casviper:
at this point I see no reason for the free-fall to stop.

Hmmm... I disagree. Over 800million in audited assets back in July, and a market cap of 192 million. I see a perfect reason for this to stop droping. The PPS doesn't represent anything realistic at all.

MM's and shorty are playing games and not realizing that they are losing big time. So they buy their way into another hole, eventually they are going to have to fight off another PR and the next time $4 is the ceiling, not $1.66. It may not stop till $7 next time. they really are digging their own hole at this point. A PR could seal the deal.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
tax I agree one nice pr right now could sky rocket this thing imo. Is something going down right now?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by casviper:
at this point I see no reason for the free-fall to stop.

Hmmm... I disagree. Over 800million in audited assets back in July, and a market cap of 192 million. I see a perfect reason for this to stop droping. The PPS doesn't represent anything realistic at all.

MM's and shorty are playing games and not realizing that they are losing big time. So they buy their way into another hole, eventually they are going to have to fight off another PR and the next time $4 is the ceiling, not $1.66. It may not stop till $7 next time. they really are digging their own hole at this point. A PR could seal the deal.

I'm with you, Tax.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Nice buying now
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
we're climbing pretty good right now guys with lots of buys
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
ENOUGH TALK RUFUS - TIME FOR ACTION!!!!!!!!!

We believe in you and shown our support so throw us a bone already!!

Like I said...

ENOUGH TALK - TIME FOR ACTION!!!! LET'S ROLL...

Jenna,

I agree...It's almost like the only people sweating this out are the shareholders. For the record, I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS! Rufus goes on subpenny in the middle of the night and says we should hear something by Thursday evening or Friday morning. When that does not happen, BAM...we drop like a rock. You can't give timelines without meeting them...especially with so much on the line.

I am still long and strong, just a little frustrated. I have not sold, I have not flipped. I have remained loyal and strong. I have picked up more shares when possible. This is what he wanted from us.

I do believe he is taking the attitude of 'what do they care about the stock price right now...it's about to be $15+'. It's just hard for us to watch the BS by the MM's and hear the crap from the bashers...ENOUGH ALREADY...SHOW US THE MONEY...CSHD...I WISH I KNEW HOW TO QUIT YOU!!

Sorry about that...I couldn't pass it up once I started. [Embarrassed] [Mad] [Razz]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it'd be nice if we lay a base in the 2.00 range for right now I can deal with that for the moment.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
ETRD was on the ask at 102.01 ... now it's gone ...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it seems right now that 2.05 is the stubbling block.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
I still say we should all throw all of our shares up for ask of $350.00

Wonder how theyd like seeing so many institutions with 350.00 asking.. cant take that for a fat finger!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
mine are up for sale right now at the bargain price of $500.00 [Big Grin]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
I have decided that I will sell my shares for $400.00 per share. I have 5,500 shares...anyone want them...DEAL OR NO DEAL?!?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I will buy them st. matt.. checks in the mail...
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Can L2/L3 see the ask price of all shares up for sale?
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
WOW...that was easy! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
not looking good arca is trying to unload 150 lot size at 2.00
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I don't think we've seen anything yet. If rufus doesn't release everything early next week I think we're really going to see a bloodbath. Now hopefully that won't happen.

Are you kidding?

Think of how many more shares you could buy if it went down to a dollar again. You KNOW it will go back up.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Honestly St. Matt that could be a bargin at that price one day. (Still being optimistic.) [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
unfortunately I can't buy squat. and arca has dropped his lot size down to 20 at 200.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I don't think we've seen anything yet. If rufus doesn't release everything early next week I think we're really going to see a bloodbath. Now hopefully that won't happen.

Are you kidding?

Think of how many more shares you could buy if it went down to a dollar again. You KNOW it will go back up.

If it slides all the way to a dollar, on all the good news thats been out, whos to says its not going to keep sliding below that?

KNOW and HOPE are two seperate things.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Volume is low.... And most of it is more than likely the MM's moven this back and forth tryin to create sumpthin that isn't there...

Tryin to make us lose faith...

F-um!!
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
Even better, then I can buy even more.
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
Put order in for 1.25. Think it will go that low?
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
This is from tutankhamen on HSM
"I see we are having a lot of strange company today. Whatever you do today do not even reply back to any bashing or what may seem like subtle negative comments. Today we may see something or at the least maybe even hear from Rufus here. I did speak with Ben and just maybe we may have something. Maybe we should all focus on asking Rufus if he can say a word or two here and maybe, just a maybe, we may even get more." [/b][/color]
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Why would you buy when the PPS is falling.. makes no sense especially when your buy has no effect on the price.

Maybe if you were to see the low and then buy once it starts moving, understandable.

But to buy when its still MOVING lower..??
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Put order in for 1.25. Think it will go that low?

Not today,,,,, But , allthough it would PIZZ me off, I would not be suprised at seein 1.70 or even 1.49
 
Posted by Gideon on :
 
#6813
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 206

I see we are having a lot of strange company today. Whatever you do today do not even reply back to any bashing or what may seem like subtle negative comments. Today we may see something or at the least maybe even hear from Rufus here. I did speak with Ben and just maybe we may have something. Maybe we should all focus on asking Rufus if he can say a word or two here and maybe, just a maybe, we may even get more. [/b][/color]
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
This is from jesuspower1 (who seems to know more than most)

"Good morning all.

About to go to Fidelity and transfer a few shares. The guy at Merrill L. didn't believe that I had the amount of shares I said, he wanted proof and then to see my DL. After I showed him proof I told him that I had to take care of something and will talk to him later. He said, "uh...uhhhh...you are coming back right?" NOPE!

Well, I don't expect much to happen today. The doc. Rufus got last night wasn't necessarily for our eyes at the time. Everyone was thinking we'd get something at 5pm, but he never said that.

My suggestion is that we sit back and relax and wait for next week. I don't know the day nor the hour, but I expect Nasdaq soon, reset between $15-$50, 10K to support BV of at least $75 / share, PPS soars to $150 in first 2 weeks, 8k's dropped again proving more bonds (like the ECOWOOD deal), 8K announcing forward split, PPS still soaring to $250 or so, more bonds announced, etc, etc, etc.

So IMO I feel that we just need to wait and see what happens in the next 3 weeks that is apparently going to be something like we've never seen before...according to RUFUS.

I will see you guys later. Take care."
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
I will buy them st. matt.. checks in the mail...

Maybe I'll fed -ex a check over to him for $2,200,000 and beat ya to it
 
Posted by BooDog on :
 
A crazy friday here eh? Good luck you guys!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Wow doc that guy has a whole lotta speculation going on there.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Honestly St. Matt that could be a bargin at that price one day. (Still being optimistic.) [Big Grin]

I know...just frustrated today. I'm so tired of these MM's playing with peoples money so they can cover and/or make money themselves. I need some news going into the weekend. Last weekend was no fun.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
LOL
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Wow doc that guy has a whole lotta speculation going on there.

At least its positive spec.

Hey no Doni today.. Wondering if he is having that baby.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I can see him now with the laptop on his wifes belly... LOL

No offense doni..
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
I can see him now with the laptop on his wifes belly... LOL

No offense doni..

LOL... [Razz]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
kinda flat lining on the 1 min. chart...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
kinda flat lining on the 1 min. chart...

....and since volume is the fuel.......
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Surprised no one cared about Scottrade reply I got sent.
 
Posted by li on :
 
yeah looking at very low volume, its friday, no news, a week of slides, its gonna go where the MMs take it for today unless something is released.
 
Posted by li on :
 
what scottrade reply? I missed that?
 
Posted by li on :
 
...but whole market is looking like this maybe someone will get bored and come play our penny
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it's getting close to lunch time and for the past few this has really been a bad time.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
did rufus say he would be putting out a pr today on the subpenny interview?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Rufus just called me back! He said tell "my people" on Allstocks that I will be delivering them to the promised land shortly... but he's got a golf outing for 4 to go to now - him, Urban Cassavant, Mario Pino, and Chris Calpito (NCDP)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
NO...not that I recall...all he said was that they were waiting on something that they would have thursday or Friday morning...that had to do with the 10k (I think)...I do not recall him saying that we would PR anything....only that they would meet the deadline for the filing...so he has another week to do it...

quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
did rufus say he would be putting out a pr today on the subpenny interview?


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
thought that was Tut on.....?
Rufus hasn't said anything...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Well as long as he said that he would deliver us...we're all good!
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Rufus just called me back! He said tell "my people" on Allstocks that I will be delivering them to the promised land shortly... but he's got a golf outing for 4 to go to now - him, Urban Cassavant, Mario Pino, and Chris Calpito (NCDP)


 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I wish JesusPower1 really was all-knowing....nice dreams anyway!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ok I thought on that interview rufus said that after he received this doc. He was waiting for that he would pr what was going to be on the 10k. Guess I got it wrong sorry.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
when is the due date for the 10k now? is it 10/13/06?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
when is the due date for the 10k now? is it 10/13/06?

oh, Rufus back when did say he was waiting for that doc, but that was all that I can remember...

And yes, the ammended version does NOT bump the date further out..
 
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
 
Here's a little read about shorting stocks in Berlin.http://www.hawkassociates.com/smtrpr007.aspx
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Rufus just called me back! He said tell "my people" on Allstocks that I will be delivering them to the promised land shortly... but he's got a golf outing for 4 to go to now - him, Urban Cassavant, Mario Pino, and Chris Calpito (NCDP)

Rufus never calls anyone back...BTW, who are those people you mentioned?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
chart have you happened to check if our institutional buyer has upped their position.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
noticed how bud750 has disappeared after his guarantee that we would have the filing by last week.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart have you happened to check if our institutional buyer has upped their position.

not today, and during the day I'm running around, those links are on my home computer, can check later, but someone here should have that link huh?....
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Rufus just called me back! He said tell "my people" on Allstocks that I will be delivering them to the promised land shortly... but he's got a golf outing for 4 to go to now - him, Urban Cassavant, Mario Pino, and Chris Calpito (NCDP)

LOL.. I bet the group has the best golf game ever and its going to change history and the way those with handicaps take advantage of other golfers! lmao....

Yeah.. but not so funny of a post when people are already ticked at jerk-arounds that have been happening.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
ENOUGH TALK RUFUS - TIME FOR ACTION!!!!!!!!!

We believe in you and shown our support so throw us a bone already!!

Like I said...

ENOUGH TALK - TIME FOR ACTION!!!! LET'S ROLL...

Jenna,

I agree...It's almost like the only people sweating this out are the shareholders. For the record, I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS! Rufus goes on subpenny in the middle of the night and says we should hear something by Thursday evening or Friday morning. When that does not happen, BAM...we drop like a rock. You can't give timelines without meeting them...especially with so much on the line.

I am still long and strong, just a little frustrated. I have not sold, I have not flipped. I have remained loyal and strong. I have picked up more shares when possible. This is what he wanted from us.

I do believe he is taking the attitude of 'what do they care about the stock price right now...it's about to be $15+'. It's just hard for us to watch the BS by the MM's and hear the crap from the bashers...ENOUGH ALREADY...SHOW US THE MONEY...CSHD...I WISH I KNEW HOW TO QUIT YOU!!

Sorry about that...I couldn't pass it up once I started. [Embarrassed] [Mad] [Razz]

No Rufus said HE would recieve a document...I do not recall him saying WE would recieve one.

He did say it COULD be a big week.

Eye on the ball folks...play the game or get out...you all know what your are in for.

Complaining only makes it worse.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Volume is low.... And most of it is more than likely the MM's moven this back and forth tryin to create sumpthin that isn't there...

Tryin to make us lose faith...

F-um!!

Listen and understand.
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart have you happened to check if our institutional buyer has upped their position.

not today, and during the day I'm running around, those links are on my home computer, can check later, but someone here should have that link huh?....
They are still holding 12k shares-
http://www.na sdaq.com/asp/Holdings.asp?symbol=CSHD&selected=CSHD&page=holdingssummary
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Rufus just called me back! He said tell "my people" on Allstocks that I will be delivering them to the promised land shortly... but he's got a golf outing for 4 to go to now - him, Urban Cassavant, Mario Pino, and Chris Calpito (NCDP)

Rufus never calls anyone back...BTW, who are those people you mentioned?
You must be a rookie at this... they are the former CEO's of CMKX, MLON, and NCDP
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Wow doc that guy has a whole lotta speculation going on there.

Perhaps...Perhaps not.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I can't watch this again....

See you later Board ~
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Repo...could Fat Frank Olsen not make the outing?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Repo...could Fat Frank Olsen not make the outing?

Haha, forgot about him.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
From HSM...pumperville.. but makes me feel better. Oh no! Emotion on a stock.

Originally Posted by CaptainSolo
Well, maybe in some little way, but not big time.

I know a dude in TX who knows these fhal guys. They are a little nervous because Rufus is late again. Many of them need their money soon and don't want to be shut out til Feb 07. Right now they are watching their money dissapear on a daily basis.

What would you say?

I AM A DUDE in TX who is one "these fhal guys" and no we are not nervous. Anxious or excited is the word you should have used. I personally have about 30 people who have invested in this company because of me and we are not scared or worried. The people who are nervous have not done any DD or trust their DD. They are probably the people who just sit back and let everyone else do their DD for them. If I was one of those people I would be nervous as well. As far as the issue about watching their money disappear that is funny as most of us are sitting on a 20 bagger right now and havent sold a share. The manipulation of the stock by the MM is the reason for this drop in PPS. If you dont understand this then you absolutely need to sell. I dont want people like this in any stock that I am in.

I have been in this stock for 2 years and the only thing that the original FHAL people are wondering about is the process for unrestricting shares but trust that there is a plan in place for this. Possibly the S4 filing. We know that this is the real deal thru our DD. We understand that things of this nature take time as we TRUST Rufus and the former management of FHAL to make the right decisions as should everyone else. Elaborate plans like this must be laid properly and with precision. So if that means we need to wait 2 weeks for this all to unfold then so be it. I am confident and strong and would not give these CRIMINALS (market makers/brokers) the priveledge of buying one of my shares right now to cover their butts.

STAY LONG AND STRONG AND TRUST YOUR DD
 
Posted by li on :
 
dog, you pumper...
 
Posted by li on :
 
Let's make this interesting 2:30-3:00 which way will it spike?... place your bets
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
We are going down overall as a trend till we get something significant.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Will Rufus save the day? Will the evil MM's triumph over good? Will shorters finally learn their lesson? Will the world supply of blue shampoo ever be restored to pre-CSHD levels?

Dunt Dunt DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

Tune in next week for the exciting conclusion of C - S - H - D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by li on :
 
I'll take that as: 1 vote for down and 1 vote for old batman shows [Smile]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i figured out what the N favicon is.
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
Ok, I'll bite, BB. what is the N favicon?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
can Rufus fight off the vicious naked short-sellers?

 -
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Going down.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Rufus just called me back! He said tell "my people" on Allstocks that I will be delivering them to the promised land shortly... but he's got a golf outing for 4 to go to now - him, Urban Cassavant, Mario Pino, and Chris Calpito (NCDP)

Rufus never calls anyone back...BTW, who are those people you mentioned?
You must be a rookie at this... they are the former CEO's of CMKX, MLON, and NCDP
Rookie at stocks and options...Hell no...rookie at these Pennies, yes...this is only my 2nd one.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I saw this one...and yes he wins...
[Wink]
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
can Rufus fight off the vicious naked short-sellers?

 -


 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I stopped watching the ticker...ready for that reset!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
will Rufus be able to defuse the Naked short BOMB in time?

 -
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
It depends on the 1.80 factor. If this price falls below 1.80 I think we can easily see it fall to a dollar. If it stays above 1.80 then it could still close down OR rally to a little above yesterdays close. JMO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OK...glass..that one just hurts my eyes...LOL

I'm ready for the damn bomb to go off already...at this point...in our face or the MM's...I don't care...
Hopefully only a week or 2 left...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Hmmm, I'm by far no expert, but I don't see where below 1.80 suddenly brings us to a dollar. There's a lot of pennies between those two numbers.

JUST MHO though! [Big Grin]

...back to the garden and shoveling the chit.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
are we halted!!


just kidding I think
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
heah! sorry i didnt post the whole message. busy day.

it's for their web host. i'll bet they are hosted at network solutions...
and that is where they registered their urls so. yeah.

http://www.networksolutions.com see the N?

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i figured out what the N favicon is.


 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
are we halted!!


just kidding I think

ha...i suppose for the last ten minutes or so you could say that...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
are we halted!!


just kidding I think

...that sure would be nice!

 -
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Looks like my last post didnt meet the standards,,,,LOL

Sorry!!! Just rehashing old jokes.....

I'll be good..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL...BB I still don't see any N...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LOL...BB I still don't see any N...

It's in the little box at the beginning of http on the link 10
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
in the address bar?
if you dont see it, you are prob using explorer.


quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LOL...BB I still don't see any N...

It's in the little box at the beginning of http on the link 10

 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman:
will Rufus be able to defuse the Naked short BOMB in time?

 -
[/QUOTE

I had to get out so I went shopping at the mall all morning. Kept thinking I would come back to a blood bath. At least there are some left with a sense of humor and I can get a good laugh. These last couple weeks have been unreal. I am also getting to the point where I just wish it would be over - one way or the other - I am exhausted.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Going down.

We don't need a play-by-play with what you're doing to your boyfriend....lol
That isn't any better than what I said!!!LOL
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
you can actually see it if you download the new Internet Explorer 7...it's alot like firefox actually...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Oh sure You all get to see pretty colored "N"'s and lightbulbs and all I get is a damn blue E...wonderful
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Agreed JH getting things moving around here would be a really good thing. Until then I am going to keep digging.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...Did you try to post some joke and none of us got it?
 
Posted by Synastar1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Oh sure You all get to see pretty colored "N"'s and lightbulbs and all I get is a damn blue E...wonderful

Make it a Favorite, then view your list of favorites. The N should show up, but it appears to be inconsequential now per BB's findings.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I am surprised this held up as much as it did. This has usually been the time when they really pull us down. Hopefully we can start climbing back up.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Whats up today folks? Anyone thinking an EOD run? Rufus gonna pull something out of his hat for you guys? I've got some settled funds just itching for some CSHD....
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Whats up today folks? Anyone thinking an EOD run? Rufus gonna pull something out of his hat for you guys? I've got some settled funds just itching for some CSHD....

I don't care where Rufus pulls it out of..as long as he does it... [Big Grin]

I was thinking EOD / EOWeek run as people don't want to be caught without, just in case something does happen over the weekend!
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Whats up today folks? Anyone thinking an EOD run? Rufus gonna pull something out of his hat for you guys? I've got some settled funds just itching for some CSHD....

Yeah - Any second now this is going to shoot right through the roof (laughing hysterically - I can't stand it any longer)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Howdy ~

I pulled up the charts and had a look,...
-wish I wouldn't of ~
Don't see an EOD run... at least not yet.

It held up really well so far [Smile]

brb!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OK OK... [Wink]

Doni..anyting on the baby?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
I posted elsewhere but if anyone is feeling down about this stock or need a litte perspective on life then please read and view:
http://cjcphoto.com/can/
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well looks like we're back to the watching the paint dry days. I guess it's better than this is dropping faster than the titantic of the past few days.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
She's two days late 10... Well, I guess my daughter is going to be stubborn (just like every other woman in my life) [Big Grin]

Thanks for asking...

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
OK OK... [Wink]

Doni..anyting on the baby?


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
I posted elsewhere but if anyone is feeling down about this stock or need a litte perspective on life then please read and view:
http://cjcphoto.com/can/

I've read that many times and remember seeing them on tv. It is truly an inspiring story.
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
I posted elsewhere but if anyone is feeling down about this stock or need a litte perspective on life then please read and view:
http://cjcphoto.com/can/

Thanks - helps put things in perspective - cool.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
I posted elsewhere but if anyone is feeling down about this stock or need a litte perspective on life then please read and view:
http://cjcphoto.com/can/

Wow. Just WOW.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
funny he never gets rid of the BOMB! He just keeps running and running...and is that what ole rufas is doing??~LOL~
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Rufus on radio...........not sure if its live or from a few nights ago

http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ok I have a question and it maybe a bit remedial,but here it goes. When an mm is sitting on the ask with a lot size of 5 does that mean he has 500 shares to sell or he is only selling in 500 lots. because arca's lot size seems to drop according to the number of shares that go through. When arca is on the ask with a lot size of 15. When he sells 500 his lot size drops to 10 and so on and so forth, but when nite is on the as with a lot size of 5 and transactions of thousands of shares go through they never budge it's very odd to me?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I will make her strong!!! [Big Grin]
Have Italian for dinner...trust me [Wink]
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
She's two days late 10... Well, I guess my daughter is going to be stubborn (just like every other woman in my life) [Big Grin]

Thanks for asking...

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
OK OK... [Wink]

Doni..anyting on the baby?



 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Rufus on radio...........not sure if its live or from a few nights ago

http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero

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Posted by sunfire on :
 
Are you guys allowed to buy more shares through Ameritrade?
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Its old from a couple nights ago
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
Earlier in the evening someone was posting as me in Paltalk and a lot of you thought I was there. When I said I was not, I was not. Then after that incidence I was invited via PM by dogman to come into Paltalk as a guest, partially to clear up the confusion created by an imposter posing as me and partially because the Paltalk members wanted to ask the same questions I try to answer here. My intial reaction was no.

When I realized that we have been fighting a very intensive and ugly war with all kinds of manoevers by the shorts to shake your belief I saw the possibility of another tactic in the making by using an imposter to create dissension amongst our own. I decided then it was best to extinguish what may have developed into another weapon for the enemy to use against you. The fire had to be put out before it spread.

In the process I believe we may have created a larger and more powerful army of believers to fight this battle. I was asked the same questions as on our HSM forum and the response was very positive and welcomed. I believe it was the right thing to do because it has only helped all HSM members by uniting us all in the same family with the same goals.

You are all brothers and sisters in the same battle and we will win this battle and you will be through the gates of victory, I have absolutely no doubt. We are very close to what we have all been waiting for and it will happen probably sooner than you all think but it will happen. I honestly do believe in your hearts and minds that you know you the answer because that is why you have held strong against the worst odds and you are still here. I know you don't like to hear the words "soon" or "close" but it is my firm belief that even you know now that it is "very close".

You are at the gates and you do know it. Your belief will not fail you.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...Did you try to post some joke and none of us got it?

Ya!!!
Someone brought up that Blue shampoo and I took it a little further and mentioned that UN-Pollishable thingy... I didn't keep it quite that polite I'm afraid.....LOL

Emotions are high in this and someone just didn't like it...

Thats cool...

They probably didn't know that, that joke has a history..
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
While we are waiting for all this to happen and maybe also hear something from Rufus I have a suggestion. A panic can be created to push a stock upwards in the same way as the shorts have tried to push it down. If you remember Rufus asked all of you to ask for the stock to be registered in your names. My suggestion to create a panic buying spree may be initiated if everyone of you right now called your brokers and demanded delivery of your shares. Just an idea but believe me worth a try
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
I posted elsewhere but if anyone is feeling down about this stock or need a litte perspective on life then please read and view:
http://cjcphoto.com/can/

Wow. Just WOW.
I don't know what else to say...WOW!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Great Article Mnvestor. Best one I've read in years. I'm sure we will be watching the movie some day.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
who's kind of surprised that we're just hanging around at this level not moving up or down. is this channeling or what.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I will make her strong!!! [Big Grin]
Have Italian for dinner...trust me [Wink]
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
She's two days late 10... Well, I guess my daughter is going to be stubborn (just like every other woman in my life) [Big Grin]

Thanks for asking...

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
OK OK... [Wink]

Doni..anyting on the baby?



I have heard this also Donni, but it did not work on my first one.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey rat or chart if we stay trading in this range as we've done most of the day does this become a new support level and set up another base for a run?
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
This is from Tut.............just now

"In no way take my last post as a negative. I do have something good for you. I have talked with Ben four times today. The last time I talked with him in answer to one of my questions he said, "We have everything now"!

You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish.

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash النصر لك"
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
Repo, do all of the stocks you "bash" end up plunging? cuz i do remember PGPM, which you were right about, and i kicked myself for not taking profit early..
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Check it out...

Today, 01:37 PM #7464
tutankhamen
HSM Regular


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 210 In no way take my last post as a negative. I do have something good for you. I have talked with Ben four times today. The last time I talked with him in answer to one of my questions he said, "We have everything now"!

You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish.

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash النصر لك
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Lostone. Usually, yes. But not because I bash, but because most stocks on the OTC are crap.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
good now release a pr [Big Grin]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
Repo, since you've been right most of the time, i have nothing against you.. but it's just everytime you show up, the price begins to drop.. lol.. you should make a late entrance next time
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
Check it out...

Today, 01:37 PM #7464
tutankhamen
HSM Regular


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 210 In no way take my last post as a negative. I do have something good for you. I have talked with Ben four times today. The last time I talked with him in answer to one of my questions he said, "We have everything now"!

You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish.

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash النصر لك

I want him to come speak at one of my birthdays or something... but he can leave the jibberish at the door.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
In no way take my last post as a negative. I do have something good for you. I have talked with Ben four times today. The last time I talked with him in answer to one of my questions he said, "We have everything now"!

You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish.

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash النصر لك
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
from tut
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Don't marry or fall in love with stocks. Like stocktrader2006's wife, you want to be in and out, then dump 'em.

i actually wanted to do a lot of flipping.. but since i have TDA, i couldn't that's why i've been on hold.. i guess too lazy to sign up w/ anyone else.. but if everything goes according to 8K then we should be fine.. it's just when things take longer than anticipated, that makes me nervous, even if it may be for a good reason..
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I've been standing at this gate waiting for a long time open the doors and let us in [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Lostone. Usually, yes. But not because I bash, but because most stocks on the OTC are crap.

Repo,
You said "most" . . . do you have any examples of stocks from pennyland that you were in that turned out to be a long term hold (meaning the stock is still worth owning today) - even if you didn't stay in?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Ryan!! Not exactly...

I havent looked at the charts for a bit....I will in few minutes..

This morning I looked and it has support around this level...very minor...could breach easily....next stop 1.50 - 1.55 area after that things get cheap..

I will venture to try it one more time....

We will hld here and shake down Eod for a close of 1.75...dead nuts between support and resistance...

just a wild guess

my second choice would be 2.54 EOD I'm not leaning that way though
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Lostone. Usually, yes. But not because I bash, but because most stocks on the OTC are crap.

Repo,
You said "most" . . . do you have any examples of stocks from pennyland that you were in that turned out to be a long term hold (meaning the stock is still worth owning today) - even if you didn't stay in?

I can come up with a few OTC.BB stocks (FRPT - .69 to now 8.50 this year, AFTER going through a reverse split).... but I'll have to wrack my brain to find a pink that actually held its value over months and years. Let me think.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Repo was pumping FRPT and (just watching NVMG) cause it was suppose to run this week.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
If you don't include reverse mergers (like SPEA), hard to come up with any pinks.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I have a feeling that we'd be moving up right now if nite wasn't in such control of everything. Not sky rocketing up but moving up they seem to keep a lid on any movement
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well we were moving up [Frown]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Lostone, you have to stop focusing on just pinks. There is fantastic money to be made in NASDAQ and even listed. Look at ACOR. If you didn't ride it up from $6, you could have shorted it today at 16.50 and covered in the 14's.. no problem. I had my short order for 1000 shares ready, but forgot to confirm the order.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
what's this volume?

oh it's 3pm i feel like going shopping?
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Don't marry or fall in love with stocks. Like stocktrader2006's wife, you want to be in and out, then dump 'em.

At least my wife is worth going in and out of, unlike your momma!!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
jeez guys, grow up
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
something coming?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
whats cooking????
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Is there news?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
smells like BBQ [Smile]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Lostone, you have to stop focusing on just pinks. There is fantastic money to be made in NASDAQ and even listed. Look at ACOR. If you didn't ride it up from $6, you could have shorted it today at 16.50 and covered in the 14's.. no problem. I had my short order for 1000 shares ready, but forgot to confirm the order.

I'm too chicken to play shorts..lol but it's the truth..
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I think it'll continue to trade sideways until the next take off like history has before. Remember when it hung around a dollar for a long time!?

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p07919451212
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
If you don't include reverse mergers (like SPEA), hard to come up with any pinks.

Interesting - seems hard to believe since things can always be broken down into a numbers game - if you have high enough numbers, someone is bound to make it happen. Thanks for pondering it for me.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
is this rufas old interview?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
oh its the old one never mind but listen if u can he explains whatever u missed!!!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Don't marry or fall in love with stocks. Like stocktrader2006's wife, you want to be in and out, then dump 'em.

At least my wife is worth going in and out of, unlike your momma!!
How degrading to one's family. The both of you should be banned.

Much worse than any comment I've ever made!!!
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Don't marry or fall in love with stocks. Like stocktrader2006's wife, you want to be in and out, then dump 'em.

At least my wife is worth going in and out of, unlike your momma!!
Oh my...is that necessary?
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Ok, im gonna bite. Is this whole Tut thing supposed to be a joke?

I surely hope so.

Seems as if everyone has been brainwashed by this guy.

No wonder bashers poke fun at this stock, we all have imaginary friends.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
smells like BBQ [Smile]

It's my BBQ sandwich...YUM! How you been BB...busy week for you.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Ok, im gonna bite. Is this whole Tut thing supposed to be a joke?

I surely hope so.

Seems as if everyone has been brainwashed by this guy.

No wonder bashers poke fun at this stock, we all have imaginary friends.

Is that statement a Deja Vu? Seems you have said that before a week or two ago. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
tutankhamen
HSM Regular


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 211 I will say it again. All of you demand your stock now. I am sure that is what Rufus meant when everyone was confused about everyone registering their stock. It was not something he could come out and say as directly as I am.
=================

certs or what?...... ????
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
It's all fun for me - no offense taken Repo (and Repo's B/F).
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
tutankhamen
HSM Regular


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 211 I will say it again. All of you demand your stock now. I am sure that is what Rufus meant when everyone was confused about everyone registering their stock. It was not something he could come out and say as directly as I am.
=================

certs or what?...... ????

That's what he's saying... no other way to get your stock. This whole putting it in your name is BS.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Don't marry or fall in love with stocks. Like stocktrader2006's wife, you want to be in and out, then dump 'em.

At least my wife is worth going in and out of, unlike your momma!!
Oh my...is that necessary?
These kind of insults are totally uncalled for...leave it off the boards...pm eachother or something!! How old are you guys anyway?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
yeah, I really don't like the fact of ALL my shares in certs...
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Repoman75...............One question.....Most of us here have a lot of money invested in this stock. I am not sure if you do or not. It appears to me that you seem to enjoy it when you can say something negative about CSHD. Why are you here...just to aggravate. What is your purpose. I wish I had a can of Raid.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repoman75...............One question.....Most of us here have a lot of money invested in this stock. I am not sure if you do or not. It appears to me that you seem to enjoy it when you can say something negative about CSHD. Why are you here...just to aggravate. What is your purpose. I wish I had a can of Raid.

He doesn't hold any shares of CSHD, his purpose on this board is to insult us....he does it to many of us.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repoman75...............One question.....Most of us here have a lot of money invested in this stock. I am not sure if you do or not. It appears to me that you seem to enjoy it when you can say something negative about CSHD. Why are you here...just to aggravate. What is your purpose. I wish I had a can of Raid.

I do not hold any position in CHSD. Didn't know it was a prerequisite to post here. Will try to find that rule in the Terms of Service for this board.

Here's 1 star in the meantime.
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
 -
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Repoman75.........Come and join us when the reset happens.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repoman75.........Come and join us when the reset happens.

If you get to sell the same # of shares that you own now at $15, I will call you a genius.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Ok, im gonna bite. Is this whole Tut thing supposed to be a joke?

I surely hope so.

Seems as if everyone has been brainwashed by this guy.

No wonder bashers poke fun at this stock, we all have imaginary friends.

Imaginary friends huh...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb9Aiy3tlnQ&eurl=
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Call someone call Bem and confirm Tut's story?!!
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
He's here to instruct us on how to trade and to make sure new ones dont get taken in by the koolaid as he puts it. Even though his FRPT tanked as well as VDMG.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Repo....Admit it....you really are Tut aren't you
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
He's here to instruct us on how to trade and to make sure new ones dont get taken in by the koolaid as he puts it. Even though his FRPT tanked as well as VDMG.

FRPT tanked??? Hahahaha. That's not even worth responding to.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Repo is following this so that when and if the reset happens he feels that this will fall and it will be a great time to make $...by shorting it....I am sure that many will do just that...IMO
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
After listening to Simon and Rufus's conversation I think I might get 50% in certificate form. That way if its all a lie I can sell half quickly protecting my proceeds. If this is all real and I need certificate form I will have it and it will be protected.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repo....Admit it....you really are Tut aren't you

You found me out. Here's my secret message; make sure you have your Red Rider Secret Decoder Ring on:

falds;jdsT THIS djf;slkd IS werpiojvn A pqwoiejf SCAM
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Sounds like someone's working through Tut to get us to force the shorts to cover...I don't think anyone wants to get certs though, at least not the numbers it would take. This is going to be one huge mess I am afraid.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
chart ben never picks up, you have to be special i guess.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
From where'd you say it was going to 10.50 now its at 8.52. I'd say thats a tank. JMHO of course
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Repo is following this so that when and if the reset happens he feels that this will fall and it will be a great time to make $...by shorting it....I am sure that many will do just that...IMO

You know what? I didn't even think of this angle, but you my friend, are finally thinking like a seasoned trader. You get the gold star for the week.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
[Wink]
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Repo is following this so that when and if the reset happens he feels that this will fall and it will be a great time to make $...by shorting it....I am sure that many will do just that...IMO

You know what? I didn't even think of this angle, but you my friend, are finally thinking like a seasoned trader. You get the gold star for the week.

 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repo....Admit it....you really are Tut aren't you

You found me out. Here's my secret message; make sure you have your Red Rider Secret Decoder Ring on:

falds;jdsT THIS djf;slkd IS werpiojvn A pqwoiejf SCAM

They're calling your name out in this, Repo:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=oCA6HqA2DWE
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repo....Admit it....you really are Tut aren't you

You found me out. Here's my secret message; make sure you have your Red Rider Secret Decoder Ring on:

falds;jdsT THIS djf;slkd IS werpiojvn A pqwoiejf SCAM

Thats great. So what reasons do you believe this is a scam Repo? And links please.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repo....Admit it....you really are Tut aren't you

You found me out. Here's my secret message; make sure you have your Red Rider Secret Decoder Ring on:

falds;jdsT THIS djf;slkd IS werpiojvn A pqwoiejf SCAM

Thats great. So what reasons do you believe this is a scam Repo? And links please.
Links to what? It's my opinion, not fact. I can't link to my opinion... i'm not the lawnmower man. It's based on the fact that no stock has just reset to $15 and appeared on the NASDAQ. Again, when I see it, I'll believe it. Just like UFO's.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Thanks for your sarcastic answer. I bet your sarcasm gets you far in life, lol [Wink]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Now he wants us to drink his kook aid.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
Thanks for your sarcastic answer. I bet your sarcasm gets you far in life, lol [Wink]

What's sarcastic? Let me lay it out for you. I have no factual evidence this is a scam. I am only forming my OPINION on the fact that no stock has ever "reset" 1500% and get listed on the NASDAQ without trading at $4 or $5 for 90 days. Again, let's see what happens, mmmkay?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
The moment of truth has arived...

Will it make a run toward 2.50 area

Will it tank toward rthe 1.75 area??

Will it close flat .....?????

Hmmmmmmmmm
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I'm thinking dump because of the long weekend...not that Rufus would care since he's probably only on the ninth green by now. [Wink]
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
Thanks for your sarcastic answer. I bet your sarcasm gets you far in life, lol [Wink]

LMAO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
The thing I mentioned to Repo? a while back I had posted that I thought Rufus or someone was "attempting" to keep the PPS down...and someone dismissed it...well..why would anyone want this to trade for weeks at 5+? before the reset? here's the thing...if there is already a short problem with this stock...wouldn't trading at those levels cause more of a problem? Brokers do allow shorts on the OTC stocks if they are above $4-5 a share...so? In my mind...going to those levels would not be a good thing at this time...not until the other short/NS and all is straightened out...
How do they do this? I have no clue..so don't ask me...it's just a thought... [Razz]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Stop thinking 10!!!! hehehehe
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Bite me.. [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Stop thinking 10!!!! hehehehe


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Long weekend? the market is open Monday...

quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
I'm thinking dump because of the long weekend...not that Rufus would care since he's probably only on the ninth green by now. [Wink]


 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Bite me.. [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Stop thinking 10!!!! hehehehe


Don't threaten me with a good time!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I lost my L2's, is there news out or anything???
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Not yet Money..

hovering around 2.00
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
thanks maumee. had to get rid of my l2's to save money [Frown] . I feel so naked without microcaptrade already!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
lookin like it's closen flat...

A lot better than my first thought...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Yet another trading day with no news...starting to sound like a broken record.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
golly...that sure was a swell end of day...

blecccccck.......
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
...it's all polished...
Need it back?

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Bite me.. [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Stop thinking 10!!!! hehehehe


Don't threaten me with a good time!!! [Big Grin]

 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
.

[ October 06, 2006, 16:15: Message edited by: betting babe ]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yes BB...it has been a long road...and those of you that had ameritrade really were not able to make much on this...and others got in at a high PPS...it has got to suck and wear on your sell finger...
I hope, for all, that this comes to an end very soon....
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Now he wants us to drink his kook aid.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
hey repo...what is your problem?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
the sexual innuendos today are really offensively prevalent.

no prude here but i really dont need that chit thrown in my face at every turn during the workday.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
hey repo...what is your problem?

My problem? stocktrader2006 started it!

That's it, I'm done for today. Going out to enjoy my weekend.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
You know with the walk down in price this morning, and the support levels being tested the way they were we are lucky to have closed at $2. I am personally glad the weekend is here. Now I am hoping Rufas has a plan to ruin the "shorts" happy hour. If not save that good news till monday. I have my Cert request in, I have my old and new positions locked in. I am ready for the show if and when it happens.

I just listened to the Subpeny show with Rufas again and he did say that this week that just passed us would be crazy, so I have to look at this from the perspective of another missed deadline since it did not appear to at this point be a "short elimination". Maybe hindsight will be 20/20.

I am long and will continue to be long for the forseeable future. Nothing in this deal has weakened as far as I have seen it. Live Rufas comments have so far proven to be a bit of an exageration, but he is following through to date. Everyone have a safe enjoyable relaxing weekend and I hope we get something before market open Monday or the "walkdown" will be a bit more drastic.

On a side note my inquires to NASD regarding enforcement of RegSHO seem to be working a bit I recieved and email from them today where they are saying that they are looking into my inquires of a few weeks ago. Based on the privacy, and republishing disclaimer attached to their response I am not able to post any more. In any case, it really had very little meat to the content currently but maybe the next response will have more.

Enjoy, be kind to people's significant others,
TB [Smile]
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
hey repo...what is your problem?

My problem? stocktrader2006 started it!

That's it, I'm done for today. Going out to enjoy my weekend.

What a coward! Blame some one else and then split. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
...happy to post again when the board is cleaned up.

lest us forget there are many readers/lurkers here who do not participate.

not to mention lurking parents of posters.

nice impressions. im sure theyre happy to read all the DD.

again, 'scuse my conservative attitude, but page after page today put me over the edge, while trying to direct others to the DD on this board.

~BB
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Let's stay professional everybody... I know we are tired. I stopped watching this week. Somehow I feel better.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Dog, I'm with ya. I dug around in the garden all afternoon and feel pretty good. There are obvious signs that pretty much everyone here is starting to feel the effects of this thing dragging out. Market's closed on Monday, right? Maybe this will be a good time to dump some serious news out there to give people an extra day to absorb it. Who knows, but it sure isn't worth ruining a weekend over it. Besides I get to watch the 4-0 Bears kick some butt this weekend! [Big Grin]

Got a nice glass of Shiraz in front of me and I'm shutting this thing down to start enjoying the weekend. Let's hope for the best.

Peace out.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Dog, I'm with ya. I dug around in the garden all afternoon and feel pretty good. There are obvious signs that pretty much everyone here is starting to feel the effects of this thing dragging out. Market's closed on Monday, right? Maybe this will be a good time to dump some serious news out there to give people an extra day to absorb it. Who knows, but it sure isn't worth ruining a weekend over it. Besides I get to watch the 4-0 Bears kick some butt this weekend! [Big Grin]

Got a nice glass of Shiraz in front of me and I'm shutting this thing down to start enjoying the weekend. Let's hope for the best.

Peace out.

The Market is closed on Monday? I thought just the SEC was...??
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I could be wrong...was just assuming...That's why I put the "?" after that. Anybody sure on that?
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Pretty sure the market is open Mon.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
FWIW

tutankhamen
HSM Regular


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 215 Quote:
Originally Posted by shadone
This certs thing is very confusing.,, I for one do not see how they can deny especially if they are in a cash account that the shares are your's, I would think any coverage would be the responsibility of the brokers and they would be the ones who are in trouble if there wasnt enough to go around....still what do I know....i guess it remains to be seen...I have at least 5 stories from scottrade already depending on who you talk to or with or where you call.....confusing


The certificates are yours and they do have to honour them, that is not the point for this. By everyone or as many as possible pulling their certificates it does create even a more powerful squeeze as the firms have to deliver the shares that are demanded. I am speaking from experience. It is a highly effective strategy to overcome the shorts when it is needed. Just think with all the float bought up and a demand for even more shares than they can find they will be buying no matter how high.

Another strategy is to create what I call a "Chinese Wall" of impenetrable bids that forces the shorts to continue to bid higher than the wall. It is amazing what you can learn over years of experience sleeping for a few thousand years with nothing else to do.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Keeping it professional would be nice.
 
Posted by mlfox on :
 
Accorting to my Scottrade calendar of events, the market is open on monday.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chasbo
I am on the phone with Fidelity and they are going to hold the stocks for me at the TA in my name and not the street name. Thanks to all who helped me understand this. Recap: Per Rufus get all your stocks transferred to a certificate form and make sure your address is correct so the company can contact you. You will become a registered member of CSHD at this point. Fidelity will hold the stocks with the TA in your name so you can trade them whenever you want. This is an ideal situation in my opinion. Ask for the certificate department at Fidelity and they will get-er-done!!! All dividends and splits will be applied to your account by the broker. You can set up your account to purchase CSHD on any cash dividends applied to the account. Happy trading/holding. I hope I helped someone!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Has anyone else called Fidelity?
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Before doing any transferring of certs, check to see if your brokerage guarantees your certs still after they are in your name.

As mentioned, theres already "names on the list" in excess of the total outstanding shares. So theres no saying your shares are in those first groups of legit shares even if you have certs. The # of shares registered has alreayd been exceeded.

If the bank holds them, they are responsible for them.

Consider this before moving to holding the certs yourself. Youre not protected by the bank, you are only protected by his word.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Before doing any transferring of certs, check to see if your brokerage guarantees your certs still after they are in your name.

As mentioned, theres already "names on the list" in excess of the total outstanding shares. So theres no saying your shares are in those first groups of legit shares even if you have certs. The # of shares registered has alreayd been exceeded.

If the bank holds them, they are responsible for them.

Consider this before moving to holding the certs yourself. Youre not protected by the bank, you are only protected by his word.

This is wrong. Follow it up with sources for your information. The certs once requested for you by the brokerage to the TA, are sent directly from the TA for the company to you the shareholder. The brokerage is not even involved at this point until you deposit the certs back into your account when you wish to trade them.

There in lies the safety of holding certs. If you are accepting certs from your brokerage for stocks you purchase through them then you are holding nothing but Monopoly money. A cert is from the TA not your brokerage, if they try an print them off for you and their name or logo is anywhere on them then you have a problem.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I know of hundreds of people who were cleaning out grandma's house and stumbled accross GE Certs, or Coca-Cola certs... they take them to their brokerage after the estate settles. Grandma's brokerage isn't even involved or even around sometimes at this point. The certs are as good as the company whose name is on the cert not the brokerage that ordered the cert in the first place.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
exactly Tax...That is why I ordered my stock cert on Monday. I might be stuck if there is a panic selloff, but I am 100% secure if this thing goes as planned. BTW, nothing has changed, we still have audited fins with Billions still to come on the 10K. Rufus has come thru so far, so I'm giving him till the extension deadline until I reassess my position. Have a great weekend all...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
let's try this again: orig posted at 16:03

well, as we gear up to the weekend of the 3rd month of this stock, im not impressed.

do i hope rufus let's something fly at his usual 4:50pm PR hour?
ohhhhhh yes i do.

otherwise i will spend a great deal of time over the weekend considering why i need to listen to an unknown egyptian yell at me to make a very risky move like ordering paper certs for a position that i am currently moving out of a broker who has screwed me by limiting my trading.

and if rufus thinks that makes me an impatient day-trader, so be it.

i think skepticism makes a wise investor.


rufus said 6 months in that phone call and the world fell apart and he backpedaled.
well here's to 3... and nooooooo verifiable progress that any "big boys" are listening to.


im uncomfortable with the way rufus has upended us lil guys, then laughed at our concern while supplying no verification.

he knows what goes on at this level of trading.

tick tock tick tock.

~BB
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Before doing any transferring of certs, check to see if your brokerage guarantees your certs still after they are in your name.

As mentioned, theres already "names on the list" in excess of the total outstanding shares. So theres no saying your shares are in those first groups of legit shares even if you have certs. The # of shares registered has alreayd been exceeded.

If the bank holds them, they are responsible for them.

Consider this before moving to holding the certs yourself. Youre not protected by the bank, you are only protected by his word.

This is wrong. Follow it up with sources for your information. The certs once requested for you by the brokerage to the TA, are sent directly from the TA for the company to you the shareholder. The brokerage is not even involved at this point until you deposit the certs back into your account when you wish to trade them.

There in lies the safety of holding certs. If you are accepting certs from your brokerage for stocks you purchase through them then you are holding nothing but Monopoly money. A cert is from the TA not your brokerage, if they try an print them off for you and their name or logo is anywhere on them then you have a problem.

It is wrong that your bank is no longer responsible if they are not holding them? That was my point of the post. The bank has no responsibility, and now its just you and the company. Theyve washed their hands clean of the transaction at that time.. Who do you turn to then? Rufus? He himself stuttered when talking about what happens when it all needs to be cleared up.. If i remember right he said well if theres too many theres no way we can help everyone.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
By the way this is not meant to be negative or bashing, but bring some reality into all of this.

With everyone here so obessesed with "doing your own DD", everyone is sure quick to jump on this because rufie said so.

Contradicts everything that everyone preaches.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repo....Admit it....you really are Tut aren't you

You found me out. Here's my secret message; make sure you have your Red Rider Secret Decoder Ring on:

falds;jdsT THIS djf;slkd IS werpiojvn A pqwoiejf SCAM

Thanx Repo I mean Tut! Our REAL secret decoder ring decoded your new message:

falds;jdsT THIS djf;slkd IS werpiojvn A pqwoiejf SCAM

SHAREHOLDERS this STOCK is NOT a FREAK'N scam


Repo - just promise us CSHD shareholders one thing when Rufus resets this thing - that you come back & tell us how GREAT we are for stickin' this thing through... is that a DEAL?
 
Posted by maddie19 on :
 
Did anyone notice on the website they have Equine Solutions? Looks like Rufas has quite a few horses he races. We may need to put some money on them as well [Smile]


I am in this with a small amount. Sold most when it hit 1.57. Have been lurking .....
 
Posted by maddie19 on :
 
Stay positive ... It will happen! I should have held longer. You guys have done great DD and I am sure it will pay off soon ! We just need Rufas to give us news!!!!
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
By the way this is not meant to be negative or bashing, but bring some reality into all of this.

With everyone here so obessesed with "doing your own DD", everyone is sure quick to jump on this because rufie said so.

Contradicts everything that everyone preaches.

pretty much yeah , that is why


LMAO


[Big Grin] [Eek!] [Confused]
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
but MR.RUFUS never lie


DUE DATE OF THE 10K SEP THE 30 and then we got an extension instead eh.


ho yeha i forgot he is putting his chiiit together for the RESET


LOL
 
Posted by dog on :
 
OK... here goes....

Had a long discussion with my new broker at ML.

I want to preface this with the fact that I am not endorsing or recommending any specific company or brokerage, only giving info on my conversation.

My broker is transferring my shares to ML. Date was suppose to be today... but Scottrade stated at EOD today that it will have to happen on Tuesday because the shares in my account are "unsettled". Which is odd because I've had them forever.

My broker went so far as to call the transfer agent himself and research CSHD as much as he could, because it's a special situation that he has not encountered before. Nice.

The TA explained the current situation with certain brokerage houses having shorted beyond the actual stock under their street name, and the scramble to cover. The TA had a meeting the beginning of this week to discuss the situation, as many people have requested certs.

The TA felt that having ML accountable for the shares was the best protection while maintaining liquidity. ML is the largest financial institution and that the transfer of shares thru the system guarantees my ownership thru ML street name, with all the insurance that ML has to offer.
Choosing full disclosure ensures addition to the NOBO list.
My broker is gonna hound dog this until it happens because according to what he knows of CSHD.. they are quite valuable and he wants them over at ML.

After discussion with him.. likely my account is unsettled because I flipped a small amount yesterday ... but never went below the number of shares I was arranging for transfer. Either that.. or they are stalling. I'll keep you posted.

Glad I'm moving my shares though. Don't trade for 3 days prior to transfer however. Just FYI.
 
Posted by li on :
 
I would love to start some after hours banter with you all, just to see if one nonpositive comment would get me labeled as a basher... I've read very few posts today that contained any logic in them what so ever.

1. IMO Rufus will not be changing the way the NASDAQ runs. There are qulifications that must be metto be listed, if they are met, CSHD may get listed. If not, it won't. I have a hard time seeing NASDAQ making new rules to accomodate CSHD.

2. While the stock may end up being worth more then its current price, a hault/reset is not needed nor warranted to get it there. Stock prices can FLY up or down as you've seen.

3. If it is a scam or not invest where you see opportunities to make money, no need to argue over if its a scam or not. Share DD, confirm DD, and invest accordingly the way you see fit.

4. Just because a company holds assets on the books does not mean that the company is worth anything more or less. It has been stated that the company is an "asset holding company", they need to use those assets to make earnings... Then after expenses you need something called profits!!!

5. Fact: Only one thing changes stock price supply and demand. The most basic rule of economics. I don't care how much an accountant tells me a company is worth on paper. When it comes to the PPS it is all about supply and demand.

Understand, I'm not tryign to bash, I have enjoyed watching and investing this stock since the news in early July, and have been reading this board and following all of your comments since then also. Yes people can manipulate the stock price. BUT, it always comes back to good old number five above.

Food for thought, notice that this is information from my view of the world, and none of my points point in either direction as far as CSHD PPS, digest it well my friends.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
my shares showed this am in my TDAm account.
they no longer show.
so im assuming they moved to Merrill.
~BB
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
li...
Well said...
I agree with 3 the most...
3. If it is a scam or not invest where you see opportunities to make money, no need to argue over if its a scam or not. Share DD, confirm DD, and invest accordingly the way you see fit.
 
Posted by li on :
 
Dog, you will find this when trading all kinds of stocks even large caps...

Trade gets placed, order gets filled in open market, money hits your account there are about 5 levels of other crap happening in between there. I have Scotty for my day trading as well, and while this may be stalling on Scotty's part it is most likely not IMO. Ask your ML rep. to clarify how he would define "settled funds". Typically you won't have a problem trading on "unsettled funds" in a cash acount, but transfering holdings between intsitutions is never a seemless "one minute" process.

Also everyone remember ML, AGE, Scotty, Schwab... they all have account reps, and all the account reps think differently about everything, you can get two different stories from people sharing an office. And, by the way any financial advisor worth the shirt on their back will show you their own personal portfolio. ML is a large institution with many wheels and they don't all turn in the same direction. Don't take anything anyone says as an absolute (except of course what I said about S&D [Smile] ).
 
Posted by joan32 on :
 
Have a good weekend everybody!
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Pretty sure the market is open Mon.

Unless someone else has already posted this, here is the Nasdaq holiday schedule. This Monday is not included so it appears that the market will be open:

http://www.nasdaq.com/about/schedule.stm

NASDAQ Holiday Trading Schedule


2006 Dates - Unless noted, the following dates are holidays that The NASDAQ Stock Market is closed. January 2 - New Year's Day
January 16 - Martin Luther King Jr.'s Birthday
February 20 - Presidents' Day
April 14 - Good Friday
May 29 - Memorial Day
July 4 - Independence Day
September 4 - Labor Day
November 23 - Thanksgiving Day
December 25 - Christmas Day
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Li ~ I'll bite on that afterhours banter. If you truly believe number five exists on the OTCBB which you atributed a couple of your coments too. then you are more niave than most OTCBB traders. Supply and Demand only works if there is a limited supply. Naked Short Sales both state wide and over seas on the OTCBB is so rampant, and regulations in RegSHO are so lax, that each and every security that has an OTCBB listing and the right amount of visibility can instantly become a target for illegal Naked Shorting which is the conterfiting of shares, thus flooding Supply. You add that to the legal amount of shorting and you have ample supply to satisfy any demand created by decent news or positive technology.

You believe like me that the exchanges should be a true "Free" market exchange, but until the Reg SHO rules of enforcement are amended this will not exist, and this reigns even more true for the Other OTC exchange where pinksheets are traded.

You either have to learn to trade in an exchange with limited rules and regulations, or go back to the large exchanges where supply and demand have actual meaning.

I don't think you comments are that far off, just that you sound more a tuned to rules of the larger exchanges. No offense meant, hopefully none taken if my opinion of your history is completely wrong. I am interested in friendly exchange, and will not call you a basher until I believe that you are intentionally atempting to mis-lead, attacking without cause, or showing an obvious agenda.

[ October 06, 2006, 20:17: Message edited by: TaxBack04 ]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by StockterDoLittle:
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Pretty sure the market is open Mon.

Unless someone else has already posted this, here is the Nasdaq holiday schedule. This Monday is not included so it appears that the market will be open:

http://www.nasdaq.com/about/schedule.stm

NASDAQ Holiday Trading Schedule


2006 Dates - Unless noted, the following dates are holidays that The NASDAQ Stock Market is closed. January 2 - New Year's Day
January 16 - Martin Luther King Jr.'s Birthday
February 20 - Presidents' Day
April 14 - Good Friday
May 29 - Memorial Day
July 4 - Independence Day
September 4 - Labor Day
November 23 - Thanksgiving Day
December 25 - Christmas Day

This is not the concern. The concern is that the SEC is closed so anyone wanting a 10-K on Monday will not get one. In this current situation, it could be really detirmental to the PPS.

SEC holiday schedule
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Do you know what you hold? If so why are you worried about the pps? Please... the reset will take care of it! I'm hoping [Wink]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Li ~ I'll bite on that afterhours banter. If you truly believe number five exists on the OTCBB which you atributed a couple of your coments too. then you are more niave than most OTCBB traders. Supply and Demand only works if there is a limited supply. Naked Short Sales both state wide and over seas on the OTCBB is so rampant, and regulations in RegSHO are so lax, that each and every security that has an OTCBB listing and the right amount of visibility can instantly become a target for illegal Naked Shorting which is the conterfiting of shares, thus flooding Supply. You add that to the legal amount of shorting and you have ample supply to satisfy any demand created by decent news or positive technology.

You believe like me that the exchanges should be a true "Free" market exchange, but until the Reg SHO rules of enforcement are amended this will not exist, and this reigns even more true for the Other OTC exchange where pinksheets are traded.

You either have to learn to trade in an exchange with limited rules and regulations, or go back to the large exchanges where supply and demand have actual meaning.

I don't think you comments are that far off, just that you sound more a tuned to rules of the larger exchanges. No offense meant, hopefully none taken if my opinion of your history is completely wrong. I am interested in friendly exchange, and will not call you a basher until I believe that you are intentionally atempting to mis-lead, attacking without cause, or showing an obvious agenda.

Good post. I agree. IMO, the only real bashers are the ones that use half truths and innuendo to accomplish their goals, whatever those goals maybe. Honest questions, even if not popular can be answered with good DD. This board has been excellent in it's DD, one only has to go back and read all the threads that preceded it.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
So monday will be a slow day or a lot of peps have gotten some certs and we will see a minor squeeeeze! smile it gets better... [Wink]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
*sigh*
i stand in the middle between the "dark side" and whatever other side there is.. and i'm worried... lost $50k profit already, of course i'm worried..
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by StockterDoLittle:
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Pretty sure the market is open Mon.

Unless someone else has already posted this, here is the Nasdaq holiday schedule. This Monday is not included so it appears that the market will be open:

http://www.nasdaq.com/about/schedule.stm

NASDAQ Holiday Trading Schedule


2006 Dates - Unless noted, the following dates are holidays that The NASDAQ Stock Market is closed. January 2 - New Year's Day
January 16 - Martin Luther King Jr.'s Birthday
February 20 - Presidents' Day
April 14 - Good Friday
May 29 - Memorial Day
July 4 - Independence Day
September 4 - Labor Day
November 23 - Thanksgiving Day
December 25 - Christmas Day

This is not the concern. The concern is that the SEC is closed so anyone wanting a 10-K on Monday will not get one. In this current situation, it could be really detirmental to the PPS.

SEC holiday schedule

Seems both were a concern. [Wink]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
Do you know what you hold? If so why are you worried about the pps? Please... the reset will take care of it! I'm hoping [Wink]

Luv I do "know" what I hold. [Smile] and very proud of myself for finding this needle in the big haystack. Just would "like" to see the PPS start to reflect what I "know" I hold. $2 or a market cap of $200 million doesn't even scratch the surface. MM's walk this price so easily with the current low volume we are very lucky we are not looking at a closing price of $1 right now.

I am patient, and experienced, when it comes to measuring my risk. 0.08 would not hurt me if the PPS goes that low, but considering where this share price "should" be... I really do not want to see that distance show up again. Rufas as CEO has a responsibility to protect the current PPS even if he has "plans" on reseting it in the near future.

GLTA
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Yes wally I agree but there's also a lot of wasted pages of no dd I do believe that is why some just ask as to skip over the off topic when we were all bored and jokin around...It just makes it easier...even if a page number was given it helps the newbies plus if they are serious it will help pps for now if they buy into ...just trying to understand why some get so upset and are rude saying read the pages,ugh like they are dumb or something what if it were you? Would that make you feel welcomed on a board as a newbie? Remember we all want money who cares who was in first at .04 or $4 we are here for the same reason if we are in it...money. Questions are not stupid and if folks don't want to help just say I am not helping you instead of looking like an arse. Remember to treat peeps like you want to be treated...It works 9 out of 10 times.... [Wink]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
I agree tax but its the bs of this and that from the ceo and we just gotta wait it out nothing more we can do except keep looking for aanything bad if nothing bad then it must be good..LOL [Wink]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
You folks have kicked arse on the dding and more some bb ..I dont know where she comes up with some stuff but has it! As far as me I dont need this money and I just hope it makes us all wealthy but I agree it is painful seeing the big account watching it disappear but it will go back up hopefully...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Have a good weekend enjoy the time we may not even see the rest until nov if it takes a month after the filings ...we just have to wait and see..I am not sure but from others saying how pav went etc... who knows it could happen Tuesday depending on how rufas does it... could be a miracle... good night all sweet dreams [Wink]
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
Have a good weekend enjoy the time we may not even see the rest until nov if it takes a month after the filings ...we just have to wait and see..I am not sure but from others saying how pav went etc... who knows it could happen Tuesday depending on how rufas does it... could be a miracle... good night all sweet dreams [Wink]

Good night, have a great weekend and see you on Tuesday!
 
Posted by 10-Penny on :
 
I post this from IHub FYI only, no opinion of its truthfullness, just info purpose only.

Listed & Nasdaq | Automotive and Transportation | Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. (CSHD) CSHD Quote/Level II - News - Quote - Chart

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Posted by: serfdom
In reply to: aimgator who wrote msg# 94135
Date:10/6/2006 6:44:41 PM
Post #of 94168

Take a look at this aim...Bart posted it three times, each time it was deleted. Then he was booted. THEN another poster showed up with the same letter, but included a bogus email addy. So HSMers were able to "conclusively prove" it was a hoax.

But I think it was a cover up.

Posted by: thetruth101
In reply to: None
Date:9/5/2006 9:16:21 PM
Post #of 66804

Dear CSHD holders and friends Please Read

(Matt or any Mod delete this post legal action will be taking, there is no bashing or pumping in this post, You can call to verify it, they are all facts. and it doesnt have any TOS in it at all. Thank.)

Do not us this to buy or sell you can call to verify that this is all true..

I have received many emails since my posts last night, and I am responding to all of you simultaneously. First of all, I must deeply apologize to you for something that I said in my first post which is untrue. I stated that I know Mr. Harris personally, and that I own restricted shares. The truth is that I have a very close friend that does and was speaking for him, in a way, because I was very frustrated over the weekend with everything that is happening and wanted to give the strongest support to CSHD I could, for us shareholders. But now I am going to reveal more about myself and be extremely honest with you, to a T.

Until this morning I was the proud owner of 170,000 shares of CSHD at an average cost of 1.14. Today I have sold every share, and I am extremely, extremely upset. I have spoken with three people today: Dr. Thomas Mensah, Ben Stanley, and Roddy Boyd. I will give you all their personal cell phone numbers at the end of this message so that you can verify this information for yourself.

First, Dr. Mensah stated that CSHD and AISS have no deal whatsoever, and that he has waited one year for a payment of 50 million dollars, and CSHD has not paid anything. He stated that CSHD has no ownership or business interests in AISS or GA whatsoever. He stated that he has sent CSHD a letter this weekend stating that they must pay him a good faith deposit of 10 million dollars within five days, or he will call the SEC, and he will demand that they remove all AISS information from the CVSU website. Furthermore, Dr. Mensah stated that CVSU put the information on their website without his permission, that they do not have any deal, because he has not received a good faith deposit. There is no deal. Moreover, Dr. Mensah stated that he does have a contract with Lockheed Martin to work on the NASA spacecrafts!!!!! He also stated that since GA is a minority owned business they get 5 percent of all military and aerospace contracts by law. He stated that his business will become extremely profitable, and that he is currently selling shares in GA for 5 dollars each, and that they could be easily worth 100 dollars each in a year or more. He is trying to raise money to build 7 new plants, and is talking to a Wall Street investment bank about going public.

Dr. Mensah's cell phone: 404-725-3598, call him to verify this information. Please do not bombard him. If you can, work in a team. CSHD and AISS have no deal now, and doesn't sound like there will be.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?381934
I don't see any names related to CSHD on this link. Furthermore, Dr. Mensah stated that he does not believe CSHD has any money. He does not believe they have the bonds they say they do. These are not his words exactly, but are basically what I was hearing from him.

I called Ben Stanley: cell 317-213-7700, to verify this information with him, concerning Dr. Mensah. Ben Stanley said that CSHD has other business opportunities, he said "look at our website", he said, Dr. Mensah doesn't know anything about business. This is not true and I believe it is misleading. I know a lot about business, and Dr. Mensah who is the CEO of GA and AISS explained the business structure, market cap, revenues, profits, expansion plans, and valuation very clearly to me. He also said that there is no deal. Now I sold today, because I am very concerned that CSHD has nothing. No bonds. No AISS. Dr. Mensah said "what does CSHD have, if they don't have me? I will sell you stock in GA directly?" Now, why would Ben Stanley, and CSHD, not pay the 10 million dollars by now, to secure the deal, if GA is going to be worth 20 times as much as they are now in one year or more? Furthermore, Ben Stanley said they don't need AISS, and have other business opportunities, but he said the only other business opportunities they have are on their website. He started acting evasive, was insulting towards Dr. Mensah, and hung up on me. Dr. Mensah also stated that he is not friends with Rufus Harris, or Ben Stanley, he says he knows them, and it is just business. Dr. Mensah said that Rufus and Ben are just using his business plan to raise money. He said everything on the CVSU website was copied from his own business plan, and that it is not CVSU’s information, and they do not have the right to have it. He also said that he rarely hears from Ben Stanely, unlike what Ben said, "I talk to the Dr. everyday." Dr. Mensah also said one more thing that was very disturbing. He said that he has the understanding that CVSU was raising money by selling stock!!!! He said that!!! He said he doesn’t want to talk about bonds, and doesn’t believe any of this talk about bonds.

Now I spoke with Roddy Boyd (NY Post). He declared that he in fact spoke with Steven Canady on multiple occasions over the past two weeks, and has had multiple email correspondences with them. He gave me the number he used to talk with Canady, which is 404-418-5461. He stated, on his word and reputation, that Canady and the Foundation are backing out of the deal with CVSU because CVSU is involved in a SCAM. He said that the Foundation would not have anything to do with CVSU!!!

Dr. Mensah also has never had anything good to say about the members of CVSU. He doesn’t say anything bad, but he says that they are not good on the business end, and do not live up to what they say.
I have sold all my stock in CSHD. I am expecting news that will confirm that the AISS deal is over, and that the new bonds are no longer available to CVSU from the foundation. I also believe at this point that CSHD does not have the other bonds either, because I believe they would have paid Dr. Mensah at least 10 million to hold their position with AISS. I believe Dr. Mensah is ready to give the deal to someone else. This was also discussed in the conversation.

I am now going to call my friend, and find out specifically what is going on. I bought the stock because of what he said, and now I am very upset. I am going to call the SEC in 20 minutes.

I also spoke with someone, a confidential contact, who claims that their associate is basically, what is known as, an SEC bounty hunter. This is not Our-Street or any of these idiots on the IHUB board. This is a person that works for the SEC as some sort of subcontractor or something, and they receive 10 percent of the lawsuit or something of this nature as profits for bringing in Rufus Harris. This person has stated that this is in the works, as we speak.

This is giving you a head’s up! This is not advice whether to buy or sell. I ask you to verify all this information for yourself. I cannot give you Roddy Boyd’s personal cell phone number because I do not have his permission. But have spoken with him multiple times, and at length. I no longer believe he is a paid basher or a short. I believe he is telling the truth.

One more thing, Roddy Boyd is in the process of suing the person on Paltalk who broadcasted his phone call(sygy1) AKA. Damion from canada, because he said it was done without his permission and it is illegal. He has this person's info and is,filing a lawsuit currently. Also, Dr. Mensah was broadcast on Paltalk by the same person also without his knowledge and permission and he has been told of it. I do not know what Dr. Mensah is going to do about this……..

So in the 8k it say's TERMINATION OF AGREEMENT and also read PAYMENTS TO THE AGREEMENT HOLDER.
Now think about this... they did not pay Dr. Mensah how will they PAY for the bond, again read the 8K it is right there people..
That's why they lost there bond IT'S the TRUTH, and have 5 day's to post 10 million to Dr. Mensah IT'S the TRUTH deal over.

I ask you to call yourself and get the FACT'S like i did.

Many of you have been taking and I was also, but we learn and move on before it is to late and everything is gone.

Please keep in contact with me, and let me know anything new that you find out. I am very unhappy about not being a CSHD long anymore, and I feel like my dreams are shattered. I may also lose a friend over this.

GOODNIGHT

Sincerely,

Bartholomew E.


Good stocks are obvious. Extensive DD is how you convince yourself to buy a bad one.

fit tea at stash C
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
paltalk is talking about some really hot documents, checking it out now
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
I would love to start some after hours banter with you all, just to see if one nonpositive comment would get me labeled as a basher... I've read very few posts today that contained any logic in them what so ever.


Understand, I'm not tryign to bash, I have enjoyed watching and investing this stock since the news in early July, and have been reading this board and following all of your comments since then also. Yes people can manipulate the stock price. BUT, it always comes back to good old number five above.

Food for thought, notice that this is information from my view of the world, and none of my points point in either direction as far as CSHD PPS, digest it well my friends.

Okay, I'll bite. I won't call you a basher at all.

1. I have never heard Rufus say he intended to change NASDAQ, on the contrary I've heard him say he intended to put an end to the illegal practice of Naked Shorting. The only way the company will move to NASDAQ will be by qualifying like everybody else.

2. We have provided a lot of DD over the passed months that shows that the reset not only is possible but in the Tax as well as the NASD rules. It may be time consuming but the answers are there in the older threads. Since I have already read it I won't do the work to go back and find it. Anyone who wishes can do the research it's on the Allstock's boards. So you do have a starting point. Not being uncivil just real.

3. I agree that there is no need to argue it being a scam. Simply post DD with links that support whichever side you are on. Then let others decide for themselves, after all this is not Ameritrade.

4. This is a chicken before the egg type of question. How valuable would an Asset Management company be if it had little or no assets? First the Assets and then the investment of those asset and the profits will come. By the way didn't the 8KA with audited financials show $18M in Revenue from the first bond and UCC note?

5. Oh yes, Supply and Demand. So how do you combat a printing press mentality. The demand has been there just look at the number of shares that have been traded vs the Float. Supply and Demand only work when the supply is not unlimited.


Those are my opinions on your statements. We can disagree that's okay.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
*sigh*
i stand in the middle between the "dark side" and whatever other side there is.. and i'm worried... lost $50k profit already, of course i'm worried..

I'm sorry but I have to say this. Did you sell? If not you have made no profit and incurred no loss. Until we sell it's only potential profit or loss. The only profit I have made is on the shares that I have actually sold. Now it the stock resets to $15 should I say I lost $13 dollars a share by selling? No.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
10penny..wasn't that same letter posted a while back?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 

I also spoke with someone, a confidential contact, who claims that their associate is basically, what is known as, an SEC bounty hunter. This is not Our-Street or any of these idiots on the IHUB board. This is a person that works for the SEC as some sort of subcontractor or something, and they receive 10 percent of the lawsuit or something of this nature as profits for bringing in Rufus Harris. This person has stated that this is in the works, as we speak.


strange stuff here...

is this a "dead or alive" bounty?

talk about koolaid?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I found it...it was in the old thread...I searched Batholowmew


a surfer
Member


Member Rated:
posted September 05, 2006 07:44 PM
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this is a letter I received after responding to this fellows post on HSM.. Take it for what its worth. Personally I don't beleive much of it!!
Makes me wonder why I am posting it, but different perspectives usually help us learn.
Again this is NOT what I beleive!!

Dear CSHD holders,

I have received sixteen emails since my posts last night, and I am responding to all of you simultaneously. First of all, I must deeply apologize to you for something that I said in my first post which is untrue. I stated that I know Mr. Harris personally, and that I own restricted shares. The truth is that I have a very close friend that does and was speaking for him, in a way, because I was very frustrated over the weekend with everything that is happening and wanted to give the strongest support to CSHD I could, for us shareholders. But now I am going to reveal more about myself and be extremely honest with you, to a T.

Until this morning I was the proud owner of 170,000 shares of CSHD at an average cost of 1.14. Today I have sold every share, and I am extremely, extremely upset. I have spoken with three people today: Dr. Thomas Mensah, Ben Stanley, and Roddy Boyd. I will give you all their personal cell phone numbers at the end of this message so that you can verify this information for yourself.

First, Dr. Mensah stated that CSHD and AISS have no deal whatsoever, and that he has waited one year for a payment of 50 million dollars, and CSHD has not paid anything. He stated that CSHD has no ownership or business interests in AISS or GA whatsoever. He stated that he has sent CSHD a letter this weekend stating that they must pay him a good faith deposit of 10 million dollars within five days, or he will call the SEC, and he will demand that they remove all AISS information from the CVSU website. Furthermore, Dr. Mensah stated that CVSU put the information on their website without his permission, that they do not have any deal, because he has not received a good faith deposit. There is no deal. Moreover, Dr. Mensah stated that he does have a contract with Lockheed Martin to work on the NASA spacecrafts!!!!! He also stated that since GA is a minority owned business they get 5 percent of all military and aerospace contracts by law. He stated that his business will become extremely profitable, and that he is currently selling shares in GA for 5 dollars each, and that they could be easily worth 100 dollars each in a year or more. He is trying to raise money to build 7 new plants, and is talking to a Wall Street investment bank about going public.

Dr. Mensah's cell phone: 404-725-3598, call him to verify this information. Please do not bombard him. If you can, work in a team. CSHD and AISS have no deal now, and doesn't sound like there will be.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?381934
I don't see any names related to CSHD on this link. Furthermore, Dr. Mensah stated that he does not believe CSHD has any money. He does not believe they have the bonds they say they do. These are not his words exactly, but are basically what I was hearing from him.

I called Ben Stanley: cell 317-213-7700, to verify this information with him, concerning Dr. Mensah. Ben Stanley said that CSHD has other business opportunities, he said "look at our website", he said, Dr. Mensah doesn't know anything about business. This is not true and I believe it is misleading. I know a lot about business, and Dr. Mensah who is the CEO of GA and AISS explained the business structure, market cap, revenues, profits, expansion plans, and valuation very clearly to me. He also said that there is no deal. Now I sold today, because I am very concerned that CSHD has nothing. No bonds. No AISS. Dr. Mensah said "what does CSHD have, if they don't have me? I will sell you stock in GA directly?" Now, why would Ben Stanley, and CSHD, not pay the 10 million dollars by now, to secure the deal, if GA is going to be worth 20 times as much as they are now in one year or more? Furthermore, Ben Stanley said they don't need AISS, and have other business opportunities, but he said the only other business opportunities they have are on their website. He started acting evasive, was insulting towards Dr. Mensah, and hung up on me. Dr. Mensah also stated that he is not friends with Rufus Harris, or Ben Stanley, he says he knows them, and it is just business. Dr. Mensah said that Rufus and Ben are just using his business plan to raise money. He said everything on the CVSU website was copied from his own business plan, and that it is not CVSU’s information, and they do not have the right to have it. He also said that he rarely hears from Ben Stanely, unlike what Ben said, "I talk to the Dr. everyday." Dr. Mensah also said one more thing that was very disturbing. He said that he has the understanding that CVSU was raising money by selling stock!!!! He said that!!! He said he doesn’t want to talk about bonds, and doesn’t believe any of this talk about bonds.

Now I spoke with Roddy Boyd. He declared that he in fact spoke with Steven Canady on multiple occasions over the past two weeks, and has had multiple email correspondences with them. He gave me the number he used to talk with Canady, which is 404-418-5461. He stated, on his word and reputation, that Canady and the Foundation are backing out of the deal with CVSU because CVSU is involved in a SCAM. He said that the Foundation would not have anything to do with CVSU!!!

Dr. Mensah also has never had anything good to say about the members of CVSU. He doesn’t say anything bad, but he says that they are not good on the business end, and do not live up to what they say.

I have sold all my stock in CSHD. I am expecting news that will confirm that the AISS deal is over, and that the new bonds are no longer available to CVSU from the foundation. I also believe at this point that CSHD does not have the other bonds either, because I believe they would have paid Dr. Mensah at least 10 million to hold their position with AISS. I believe Dr. Mensah is ready to give the deal to someone else. This was also discussed in the conversation.

I am now going to call my friend, and find out specifically what is going on. I bought the stock because of what he said, and now I am very upset. I am going to call the SEC in 20 minutes.

I also spoke with someone, a confidential contact, who claims that their associate is basically, what is known as, an SEC bounty hunter. This is not Our-Street or any of these idiots on the IHUB board. This is a person that works for the SEC as some sort of subcontractor or something, and they receive 10 percent of the lawsuit or something of this nature as profits for bringing in Rufus Harris. This person has stated that this is in the works, as we speak.

This is giving you a head’s up! This is not advice whether to buy or sell. I ask you to verify all this information for yourself. I cannot give you Roddy Boyd’s personal cell phone number because I do not have his permission. But have spoken with him multiple times, and at length. I no longer believe he is a paid basher or a short. I believe he is telling the truth.

One more thing, Roddy Boyd is in the process of suing the person on Paltalk who broadcasted his phone call, because he said it was done without his permission and it is illegal. He knows who the person is, and is filing a lawsuit currently. Also, Dr. Mensah was broadcast on Paltalk also without his knowledge and permission. I do not know what Dr. Mensah is going to do about this……..

I have given you all my DD, as of this moment. Please keep in contact with me, and let me know anything new that you find out. I am very unhappy about not being a CSHD long anymore, and I feel like my dreams are shattered. I may also lose a friend over this. I don’t know if my friend has been lying to me or what the story is…….

Sincerely,

Bartholomew E.
help us learn....
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Hey, kind of a change of subject here for the slow time, but did anyone sold some FHAL for a loss when the "s t o c k l e m o n" report came out actually send an email to Rufus as he requested. And, if so, have you heard anything back?

I am in that group, and I have heard nothing.

Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I haven't heard anyting either Jo
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
spinoffz has just been shut down
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
Yes wally I agree but there's also a lot of wasted pages of no dd I do believe that is why some just ask as to skip over the off topic when we were all bored and jokin around...It just makes it easier...even if a page number was given it helps the newbies plus if they are serious it will help pps for now if they buy into ...just trying to understand why some get so upset and are rude saying read the pages,ugh like they are dumb or something what if it were you? Would that make you feel welcomed on a board as a newbie? Remember we all want money who cares who was in first at .04 or $4 we are here for the same reason if we are in it...money. Questions are not stupid and if folks don't want to help just say I am not helping you instead of looking like an arse. Remember to treat peeps like you want to be treated...It works 9 out of 10 times.... [Wink]

I agree. The one thing I don't agree with is spoonfeeding. When I came to the board as a NooB not that long ago actually, People were kind enough to show me where to find the tools to do the DD. If they had simply provided it to me over and over I would never have grown and quite possibly be like some people on other threads/boards who blame someone else for their decisions. You see it all the time. They are bagholders because someone told them it was a great play. I've been in this since the FHAL days prior to any thought of a merger. I continue to do my own DD and really appreciate those who are kind enough to provide the DD that they have done. This is about learning to fend for yourself. Instead of having to google or look throughout the worldwide web for the answer you can find a lot of them by simply using the search function provided by Allstocks or sifting through all the pages and pages of information that have been provided by others. I, myself do this as part of my research when looking at a stock. I don't read every single post but scan to see if there is something of interest that I can read and research further to satisfy myself. It's a matter of caring enough about the money you are willing to put out and how much that money means to you. I'm a bagholder in a few stocks and I if I blame anyone, it's the misleading PR's that were put out by the company I chose to put my money in. As an individual I made the choice to buy and I made the choice to hold. It's nobody's fault but my own.

Enough of the soapbox. I'll get off it now. This stock is frustrating at times but I can say from experience that many, many stocks are frustrating. Everybody have a great weekend and I hope everything works the way we have invisioned it to be.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Hey guys I got that letter over a month ago as 10 of 13 dug up.... What are they twisting this into now..

we traced this bartholomew to calif. He had sent it from work.

Old news

Thanks for the dig 10.

pathetic.

I am being patient. Just got off the phone with pops and he was wondering where we were headed and I just told him next week should tell most.


sounds familiar...LOL

To be honest if it wasn't for that 8k I would be out. With that we have numerical proof.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Thanks 10-penny for giving everyone a visual of the typical basher style post would look like.

Posting a negative discredited letter almost a month later after it was originally posted and discredited. Additionally, kudos on posting the crud on Friday after close so anyone new to the stock that may think about buying on Monday would have ample time to read it and consider all the false information housed in said letter.

What is next you going to post a link to the FAKE C&D letter that was used to attack this stock a month and a half ago. Or how about a link to our-creep or da lemon... and follow it up with "Hey look what I just found!".

No worries we who have done our DD know to look before we post, and how to combat feeble attempts to attack this stock.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atthebank:
spinoffz has just been shut down

can you elaborate???
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
I was listening to them and they were giving out a website to gsccca.org and talking about 4 huge deals on there that pertained to cshd, they said they could no share the information but you could go look for yourself, anthe deals were great, HUGE, news, Itried getting on the sight but they were having tecnical difficuties, I figured they probably got flooded with traffic, then they said " someone is trying to shut us down, 10 seconds later an abtubt end to spinoffz
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
thanks atthe!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tax It looks like 10 Penny was just bringing over a post from HSM...I really don't think any harm was meant... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I was on gsccca. two days ago.

Here is how the NOBO list is helping to evaluate more than just CSHD..

I think this will be a common trend and makes good sense.

Early this afternoon, Silver Screen issued a follow up press release, stating that "we have received the Transfer Agent's Shareholders list and will compare with the NOBO list." The company believes that recent selling of Silver Screen common stock is not related to actual shares outstanding. In other words, the company is alleging that there are phantom or "naked" short shares on the second market. Once comparing the NOBO list from ADP to the current transfer agent list, the company will be able to determine if indeed there is a short position in the company's shares. With the news out, investors began to purchase shares of stock in hopes that there is a short position and betting that those short sellers would have to buy stock at higher prices to cover their position. The move mimics recent attempts by other over the counter corporations such as American Way (OTC: AWYB) and Conversion Solutions (OTC: CSHD) to request a NOBO list to determine short positions. Each of those companies have experienced substantial percentage gains in their share price since announcing the request for a NOBO list. Silver Screen stock finished higher by $.0144, or 148%, to $.0241 on heavy volume of 145 million shares.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tax It looks like 10 Penny was just bringing over a post from HSM...I really don't think any harm was meant... [Big Grin]

The important thing is that they know (HSM) that the letter was old and accounted for.
 
Posted by 10-Penny on :
 
Thanks 10of13, Sorry about the post, was unaware it was old, again no bash intended. just trying to put all info out there to be evaluated. I want this stock to be all that we hope it will be, but caution is the word, We all can agree this has been a different trip we are on with this one.
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
can anyone give me a link to HSM , never been there, thanx
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hot stock market . com

http://www.hotstock market.com/forums/ showthread.php?p=759784#post759784
 
Posted by mlfox on :
 
Okay, first, I am very new to all this stock trading stuff, but I'm no idiot, so if my thoughts are incorrect, please point me in the right direction. I got into this stock only after the audited 8K came out. I went back and have read everything I can find on this company going back for the last three months. I made my decision to invest in CSHD based on the audited 8K.

The question is, how can a company file a bogus audited 8K with the SEC without the SEC knowing about it? My pea brain says if the filings are audited then they must be true. I have tried to disregard all the hype and bash on this company and have tried to focus on the black and white of the SEC filings to date. When I see an audited
8K that says this companies shares are worth over $7.00 a pop, I get excited that I'm in at under half or more. If I can't rely on an audited fin, then there is nothing out there to ever be able to make an educated decision on, IS THERE?

I am just a small fry in all this. I am new to this board and new to stock trading, but I'm not an idiot, either. I am a main frame programmer that has been developing a custom warehouse management system for my company that rivals any 1st tier software available. I only say this so you know that I do have the capacity for logical reasoning. What I don't have is an extensive knowledge of how all this stock stuff works. I have been cramming info for the last 3 months trying to get a hold on all of this 'stock' stuff.

Please help me understand, how a company could, if possible, file bogus audited financials.

With all that said, let me add this. I am not worried about losing my investment. My investment is my gambling money for the poker tables in Tunica. I decided to try trading stocks because the odds are more in my favor with stocks than the poker or roulette tables. I buy based on my research on the companies financials and my reading of the technicals (charts, which I have a lot to learn). I just need to know from those more experienced than myself, can I trust the filed financials, or do you take those with a grain of salt like you would someone's personal opinion of what a stock is worth? Do I need to throw out the fundamentals and trade strictly by what is happening with a stock on a day to day basis? Just when I think I am starting to understand, I get a curve ball thrown my way and I feel like I am starting all over again. Coding logic algorithms is a lot easier than trying to sift through some of the BS.

Sorry for the long post, but I would like to know if I'm making decisions on stuff that 'seems' o be factual when in fact it might not be.

Thanks.
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
thanx, DUH!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
mlfox
I wish i had the perfect answer for you...I don't...but the fact that these are filed with the SEC are a very good thing...
BUT...there are still ways for scams to sneak through...this one has been very interesting because of the degree of bashers out to stop the PPS from climbing...
the fact that these are filed with the SEC is not a "proof positive gonna happen for sure" thing...but it is most defintely a step in the right direction...IMO
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mlfox:
Okay, first, I am very new to all this stock trading stuff, but I'm no idiot, so if my thoughts are incorrect, please point me in the right direction. I got into this stock only after the audited 8K came out. I went back and have read everything I can find on this company going back for the last three months. I made my decision to invest in CSHD based on the audited 8K.

The question is, how can a company file a bogus audited 8K with the SEC without the SEC knowing about it? My pea brain says if the filings are audited then they must be true. I have tried to disregard all the hype and bash on this company and have tried to focus on the black and white of the SEC filings to date. When I see an audited
8K that says this companies shares are worth over $7.00 a pop, I get excited that I'm in at under half or more. If I can't rely on an audited fin, then there is nothing out there to ever be able to make an educated decision on, IS THERE?

I am just a small fry in all this. I am new to this board and new to stock trading, but I'm not an idiot, either. I am a main frame programmer that has been developing a custom warehouse management system for my company that rivals any 1st tier software available. I only say this so you know that I do have the capacity for logical reasoning. What I don't have is an extensive knowledge of how all this stock stuff works. I have been cramming info for the last 3 months trying to get a hold on all of this 'stock' stuff.

Please help me understand, how a company could, if possible, file bogus audited financials.

With all that said, let me add this. I am not worried about losing my investment. My investment is my gambling money for the poker tables in Tunica. I decided to try trading stocks because the odds are more in my favor with stocks than the poker or roulette tables. I buy based on my research on the companies financials and my reading of the technicals (charts, which I have a lot to learn). I just need to know from those more experienced than myself, can I trust the filed financials, or do you take those with a grain of salt like you would someone's personal opinion of what a stock is worth? Do I need to throw out the fundamentals and trade strictly by what is happening with a stock on a day to day basis? Just when I think I am starting to understand, I get a curve ball thrown my way and I feel like I am starting all over again. Coding logic algorithms is a lot easier than trying to sift through some of the BS.

Sorry for the long post, but I would like to know if I'm making decisions on stuff that 'seems' o be factual when in fact it might not be.

Thanks.

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source au·dit (?G alt="" src="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gif" height="22" width="4" align="bottom">dt) Pronunciation Key
n.
An examination of records or financial accounts to check their accuracy.
An adjustment or correction of accounts.
An examined and verified account.

v. au·dit·ed, au·dit·ing, au·dits
v. tr.
To examine, verify, or correct the financial accounts of: Independent accountants audit the company annually. The IRS audits questionable income tax returns.
To attend (a course) without requesting or receiving academic credit.

v. intr.
To examine financial accounts.


[Middle English (influenced by auditor, auditor), from Latin audtus, a hearing, from past participle of audre, to hear. See au- in Indo-European Roots.]
audit·a·ble adj.


Don't worry my friend and welcome.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repoman75...............One question.....Most of us here have a lot of money invested in this stock. I am not sure if you do or not. It appears to me that you seem to enjoy it when you can say something negative about CSHD. Why are you here...just to aggravate. What is your purpose. I wish I had a can of Raid.

I think I'm starting to like you Doc. [Cool]

I'll give you some stars back...just don't make me regret it...LOL.

[ October 06, 2006, 22:06: Message edited by: St. Matthew ]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repoman75...............One question.....Most of us here have a lot of money invested in this stock. I am not sure if you do or not. It appears to me that you seem to enjoy it when you can say something negative about CSHD. Why are you here...just to aggravate. What is your purpose. I wish I had a can of Raid.

I do not hold any position in CHSD. Didn't know it was a prerequisite to post here. Will try to find that rule in the Terms of Service for this board.

Here's 1 star in the meantime.

lol...lol...lol...lol...lol...lol...lol...lol... [Roll Eyes] My God...How old are you man...seriously?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mlfox:
Okay, first, I am very new to all this stock trading stuff, but I'm no idiot, so if my thoughts are incorrect, please point me in the right direction. I got into this stock only after the audited 8K came out. I went back and have read everything I can find on this company going back for the last three months. I made my decision to invest in CSHD based on the audited 8K.

The question is, how can a company file a bogus audited 8K with the SEC without the SEC knowing about it? My pea brain says if the filings are audited then they must be true. I have tried to disregard all the hype and bash on this company and have tried to focus on the black and white of the SEC filings to date. When I see an audited
8K that says this companies shares are worth over $7.00 a pop, I get excited that I'm in at under half or more. If I can't rely on an audited fin, then there is nothing out there to ever be able to make an educated decision on, IS THERE?

I am just a small fry in all this. I am new to this board and new to stock trading, but I'm not an idiot, either. I am a main frame programmer that has been developing a custom warehouse management system for my company that rivals any 1st tier software available. I only say this so you know that I do have the capacity for logical reasoning. What I don't have is an extensive knowledge of how all this stock stuff works. I have been cramming info for the last 3 months trying to get a hold on all of this 'stock' stuff.

Please help me understand, how a company could, if possible, file bogus audited financials.

With all that said, let me add this. I am not worried about losing my investment. My investment is my gambling money for the poker tables in Tunica. I decided to try trading stocks because the odds are more in my favor with stocks than the poker or roulette tables. I buy based on my research on the companies financials and my reading of the technicals (charts, which I have a lot to learn). I just need to know from those more experienced than myself, can I trust the filed financials, or do you take those with a grain of salt like you would someone's personal opinion of what a stock is worth? Do I need to throw out the fundamentals and trade strictly by what is happening with a stock on a day to day basis? Just when I think I am starting to understand, I get a curve ball thrown my way and I feel like I am starting all over again. Coding logic algorithms is a lot easier than trying to sift through some of the BS.

Sorry for the long post, but I would like to know if I'm making decisions on stuff that 'seems' o be factual when in fact it might not be.

Thanks.

Not saying it is the case here but ENRON filed audited financials that later proved to be bogus. Yes it can happen. The best we can do is DD to the best of our abilities. Usually filing a legal document with the SEC helps build the credibility of a company.

As far as logic goes, you can just about throw it out the window when investing in the OTCBB and Pinksheets. That was the hardest lesson for me to learn. One must look at each stock individually becuase there is no one rule or law that seems to apply to all. Oh by the way the only thing I am certain of is that you protect your capital at all times and take profits when they are available.

Good Luck to You

Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
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I would like to know if the shares I own on the stocks I have purchased
are on the NOBO list for the companies in which I'm invested.

Thank You
Wallace McDonald
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10-Penny:
Thanks 10of13, Sorry about the post, was unaware it was old, again no bash intended. just trying to put all info out there to be evaluated. I want this stock to be all that we hope it will be, but caution is the word, We all can agree this has been a different trip we are on with this one.

Alright I will appologise for jumping to the defensive position but I can say with all the attacks on this stock and as I said many feeble attacks on this stock I feel a bit justified in being defensive.

But since you posted it, you do have the ability to edit it and remove it. No?
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Repoman75...............One question.....Most of us here have a lot of money invested in this stock. I am not sure if you do or not. It appears to me that you seem to enjoy it when you can say something negative about CSHD. Why are you here...just to aggravate. What is your purpose. I wish I had a can of Raid.

I do not hold any position in CHSD. Didn't know it was a prerequisite to post here. Will try to find that rule in the Terms of Service for this board.

Here's 1 star in the meantime.

lol...lol...lol...lol...lol...lol...lol...lol... [Roll Eyes] My God...How old are you man...seriously?
Dude...I tried...boy, you got screwed that first night on here when you didn't answer those questions about being a doctor of Economics.

Keep of the good work of late...if you ever want to talk economics, let me know. I also have a degree in Finance and Economics...maybe you could teach me something.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
For anyone interested...

On discovery channel after commercial, Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs is going to be gathering logs from the bottom of the river. I forget which river.. LOL

Its interesting. Same thing that will be happening on the amazon!!!
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
He's here to instruct us on how to trade and to make sure new ones dont get taken in by the koolaid as he puts it. Even though his FRPT tanked as well as VDMG.

FRPT tanked??? Hahahaha. That's not even worth responding to.
ahem...You just did.
 
Posted by 10-Penny on :
 
How do I edit or delete a post??????
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
chart ben never picks up, you have to be special i guess.

Rich...get a phone card and do it that way...trust me, he answers my calls...don't know why, but he does. [Confused]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
For anyone interested...

On discovery channel after commercial, Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs is going to be gathering logs from the bottom of the river. I forget which river.. LOL

Its interesting. Same thing that will be happening on the amazon!!!

Thanks asurfer!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
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-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx*hotmail.com [mailto:xxxxx*hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:51 PM
To: Scottrade Customer Support
Subject: Other

I would like to know if the shares I own on the stocks I have purchased
are on the NOBO list for the companies in which I'm invested.

Thank You
Wallace McDonald

Thanks wally. They told me that on the phone but not in writing... have a great weekend all..

Mike
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
hey st mat, I have gotten thru once or twice, but not lately. Also Mike Alexander has not returned any of my calls. I understand they are very busy doing business and closing deals, but they have to understand they are a publicly traded company. I still cannot understand why they have not set up an IR department, they had better get one in place before listing on the NASD, if they think we're bad with calling all the time wait until they move to a much larger exchange!
 
Posted by mlfox on :
 
Thanks surf and wally.

Just to clarify, I am in this dude till the 10K comes out. I'll decide then how much and how long I'll stay with this company. It ain't no secret that I'm in this for the money, not company loyality. The only company I am 100% loyal to is the one I work for.

Good luck to all, I hope all this pans out for the best for everyone involved, (this doesn't apply to the people that manipulate stocks to the detriment of the company and its shareholders).


Have a great weekend, the party continues on Monday. [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tax...after so long...no you can not delete posts...
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
Markets are open on Monday, but SEC closed, is that correct?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
everyone please go buy a mattress at macys this weekend, make me look good [Wink] LOL
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10-Penny:
How do I edit or delete a post??????

Don't worry about it... it is valid DD of a discredited basher post leave it. Let others learn from it. To edit you just have to click on the icon at the top of your posts that has the pencil next to it.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tax...after so long...no you can not delete posts...

I know. Not really a biggie at this point. It is a portion of this stocks recent history, even if it is a dark cloud in that history.
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atthebank:
Markets are open on Monday, but SEC closed, is that correct?

yes, that is correct
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
everyone please go buy a mattress at macys this weekend, make me look good [Wink] LOL

I'll be looking for ya!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
everyone please go buy a mattress at macys this weekend, make me look good [Wink] LOL

Hey BB, just saw you on the TV add for Macy's [Big Grin] I've gotta hit the sack, see everyone tomorrow
 
Posted by william mckinley on :
 
hi everyone. i'm a noobie. been lurking since fhal *.67. i'm trying to learn to do my own DD. seems every time i think i have something new, you guys already have 2 pages of discussion.i have a question. i have my cshd in ameritrade and i'm transfering my acct to choicetrade. will CTrade make sure my shares are legit and not air shares?
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:
Originally posted by atthebank:
Markets are open on Monday, but SEC closed, is that correct?

yes, that is correct
thanks for the reply 5 stars for you
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Okay everyone, We had some discussion a little earlier on the website www.gsccca.org that Rufus said go ahead and sign up and do some DD on this site. Lots and Lots of Stuff (Signed papers, legal speak, etc.) on CSHD.
Very much worth the 10 dollars per month to have full access!
This is the Real deal.
BTW these are document you must pay to play and it seems as though we are not to discuss these in detail on this site (from what I gather)
I paid and I'm happy to play!
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Okay everyone, We had some discussion a little earlier on the website www.gsccca.org that Rufus said go ahead and sign up and do some DD on this site. Lots and Lots of Stuff (Signed papers, legal speak, etc.) on CSHD.
Very much worth the 10 dollars per month to have full access!
This is the Real deal.
BTW these are document you must pay to play and it seems as though we are not to discuss these in detail on this site (from what I gather)
I paid and I'm happy to play!

I tried to get in and had trouble, I here it is some great stuff
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atthebank:
I was listening to them and they were giving out a website to gsccca.org and talking about 4 huge deals on there that pertained to cshd, they said they could no share the information but you could go look for yourself, anthe deals were great, HUGE, news, Itried getting on the sight but they were having tecnical difficuties, I figured they probably got flooded with traffic, then they said " someone is trying to shut us down, 10 seconds later an abtubt end to spinoffz

Bank,
From what I'm reading...I'm seeing 4 huge hundreds of pages books of legal documents. I think 4 huge deals would be an injustice to CSHD (I'd think bigger than 4 [Smile]
Ima
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Howdy Board ~

I read a page or two back about how someone bought in because of CSHD's 8k. This newer investor asked if we could point them or help out,... -something like that....

One thing came to mind...
Don't JUST buy in because a pennystock files something with the SEC. In my opinion I think I could take that format, change some words and file "MY" company with the SEC,
-if ya know what I mean.... [Big Grin]

GET CREADIBILITY on the filing (!)

There have been many pinks that have filed a bunch of crap that I've seen. They scurry arond the "gray" areas of business. -And THAT'S WHAT VERY INTERESTING about CHSD (!) imo

Cause Rufus doesn't "hide" ANYTHING! He seems to almost like the attention! Rufus has called the dogs on himself, he has PUBLICALLY dragged TDAmeriturd in the spotlight and basically called them CROOKS in a public PR!!!
OMG!

--and "no response" from TDAmeriturd...

See, when something like that happens, it makes the "pieces" FIT! Then you can SEE into the picture, watch and get to "know" the players so you can tell when something doesn't sound right, you "crosscheck it."

Now COMMON SENSE would have to dictate that if someone was pulling off the "scam of the Century", that they WOULD NOT be doing things like that!

"Let's profile it "

If we were running a scam, we wouldn't want any kind of negative press cause that would cause "waves" and waves could find us out, stir things up...

We sure wouldn't be telling investors around the world to go to war armed with the publically displaced NOBO list, that hundreds of people own shares of "air."

Guess what I'm trying to say is,(to whomever it was who wrote that) that a filing is just something turned in, look to see the the filing... -whatever it may be, make sure there is,... -what there is ~

We have seen the ID #'s and looked up all bonds, and in doing so, now we "know" what "OUR" little piece of paper is worth!!$$$$

[or so we honestly believe...]

Take filings with a grain of salt, till you can prove it's flvour! (<--hey Tut was here! "vour")

Hey , I gotta try to leave with a laugh! [Big Grin]

Have a great weekend all!
Chart ~
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by atthebank:
I was listening to them and they were giving out a website to gsccca.org and talking about 4 huge deals on there that pertained to cshd, they said they could no share the information but you could go look for yourself, anthe deals were great, HUGE, news, Itried getting on the sight but they were having tecnical difficuties, I figured they probably got flooded with traffic, then they said " someone is trying to shut us down, 10 seconds later an abtubt end to spinoffz

Bank,
From what I'm reading...I'm seeing 4 huge hundreds of pages books of legal documents. I think 4 huge deals would be an injustice to CSHD (I'd think bigger than 4 [Smile]
Ima

did u go to regular acct type=2
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Ima I don't think there's anything new at the www.gsccca.org site since surfer and I posted like every file over here. Not the whole contracts but what they were. I don't know about everyone else I'm beginning to tire of tut and rufus making timelines they don't keep. This will be a week to remember I'll remember it as dropping 50% from our 52wk high. I'm not saying that this won't get done but the way they drag this out does'nt make anyone here feel that great about it.
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
correction.,, regular acct.asap?accounttype =2
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
so wally does this mean you won't be requesting your certs either?

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
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-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx*hotmail.com [mailto:xxxxx*hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:51 PM
To: Scottrade Customer Support
Subject: Other

I would like to know if the shares I own on the stocks I have purchased
are on the NOBO list for the companies in which I'm invested.

Thank You
Wallace McDonald


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
so wally does this mean you won't be requesting your certs either?

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
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further questions.

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-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx*hotmail.com [mailto:xxxxx*hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:51 PM
To: Scottrade Customer Support
Subject: Other

I would like to know if the shares I own on the stocks I have purchased
are on the NOBO list for the companies in which I'm invested.

Thank You
Wallace McDonald


I had already decided prior to getting this email that I was not going to request Certs. I want to be able to make my decisions on the spot instead of having to wait.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Here are some instructions on finding the GA Gov docs I picked up off HSM.

Originally Posted by HititUP
http://www.gsccca.org

Make an account there. $5.

Real estate / Name search / Conversion Solutions

It's all there.

Enjoy,
TB
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
So is there new stuff on the gsccca site? It sounds like there's new stuff there and its really good. I'm surprised we can't just talk about it here though.

Thanks and good weekend to you all.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Ok i dont know if im just stupid or not seeing what you guys are seeing.

What exactly are we supposed to be looking at.

Surely not the real estate matches?
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Oops my bad, i was hitting page down, not page up.

I only skimmed through one.. and i like what i see

*thumbs up*
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Anyone know if and when the sub-penny radio interview with Rufas download is going to be available? I wanted to download it and listen to it again this weekend.

Thanks,
TB
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Oops my bad, i was hitting page down, not page up.

I only skimmed through one.. and i like what i see

*thumbs up*

looks good ? it should be in real estate
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Ill be driving through grants pass soon, Ill be sure to throw some 50's out the window for the children.

[Wink]

IF you guys havent already, read the docs on that site.

Definetly cleared up alot of confusion for me.
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Ill be driving through grants pass soon, Ill be sure to throw some 50's out the window for the children.

[Wink]

IF you guys havent already, read the docs on that site.

Definetly cleared up alot of confusion for me.

TimW ya coming thru Grants Pass, stop in, were all apart of the rufas family right, bbq tommorrow
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Couple weeks out still..
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Couple weeks out still..

timw you have a pm....mail [Confused]
 
Posted by got2hvfaith on :
 
If you want to read Tut's most recent post it is at hsm post #8736. It is encouraging to me, but maybe I have had too much "kool-aid".

P.S. I am still learning how to "drag" things from one place to another so I don't dare.
 
Posted by driver4t3 on :
 
can someone tell vishamerica to let me back in to spinoffz, got the boot for no reason... tia
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
From HSM:

Originally Posted by tutankhamen
Shareholders I bring at least some encouraging news so maybe you can all get some well needed rest this weekend.

Ben just called me back because I had been trying to get both Rufus and Ben to appear on HSM to at least say a few words to all of you. Remember earlier I said I had talked with Ben this morning and he said "we have everything we need". When I asked him just a few minutes ago if either Rufus or both him and Rufus could make an appearance on HSM just to say a few words it would help make everyone feel better, he said and I quote: "You won't need it, we've got something even better".

I don't know if it will be over the weekend or early week, but if he says you won't need them to appear on HSM because they have something better, in my understanding that must mean fairly soon. I think you should all have a good weekend and relax. From my understanding this sounded extremely positive.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey got2hvfaith, you still awake?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Okay everyone, We had some discussion a little earlier on the website www.gsccca.org that Rufus said go ahead and sign up and do some DD on this site. Lots and Lots of Stuff (Signed papers, legal speak, etc.) on CSHD.
Very much worth the 10 dollars per month to have full access!
This is the Real deal.
BTW these are document you must pay to play and it seems as though we are not to discuss these in detail on this site (from what I gather)
I paid and I'm happy to play!

IMA Thanks for posting! I was trying to get this point across a couple days ago. Every signed document is scanned and in place on that site. Did you see anything new.....LOL
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
surfer without buying another membership I did the search and there were the same amount of records found when you and I searched the site earlier in the week.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Ryan did you check again this a.m.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
just checking SONGWI.com

are the other subs on the bottom of the main page new???

Infinity One Inc.
Amruss Group LL
Loan Shoppers

I don't remember seeing before...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Good morning board ... after close on
Friday, I did my trip to SD and thought alot about this week and all things with CSHD ... allthough it was not a spectacular week, I was feelin' good!

I believe we have weathered enough through all the bashing and disappointment ... but, it dawned on me, I am feelin' good about this because of all the dd that has been done leading to a good understanding of the fundamentals ... not to mention what's to come over the next several weeks.

Our tickets are stamped and we're ready for the show ... cannot wait for payback shorty ... can't wait for the show! Great weekend everyone!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
MESSAGE TO ALL SHARE HOLDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Am asking all of you to go on to this website www.gsccca.org

There is tons of info on there.

It is worth the full membership of 10 bucks a month. You can cancel at any time thereafter.

PLEASE DO THIS
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Welcom aboard William,
You may want to give choicetrade a call..They have told me that mine are "real" but with a tranfer it may be different. Logic tells me that it would be verified.

Good luck to you! [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by william mckinley:
hi everyone. i'm a noobie. been lurking since fhal *.67. i'm trying to learn to do my own DD. seems every time i think i have something new, you guys already have 2 pages of discussion.i have a question. i have my cshd in ameritrade and i'm transfering my acct to choicetrade. will CTrade make sure my shares are legit and not air shares?


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
allright There are * 500 pages of info. on this site.

Mereger agreement FHAL - CSHD 99 pages

Board of resolutions

Sabra Dabbs - Board of directors

Reznick group- All Accounting

Escrow acct- 66 mil.for shares that may not exist!!!
Set forth 100 not to exceed 250 mil. for these shares.
Ogilvy as P.R. group.

Contract W/ Direct Way Communications- for cell, internet, GPS, trading, E-mail, ETC.

will pay 1 mil. to write its own insurance policy.

Employment agreements attached in 10k!!!!

Irvin Stanford and Kessler as attorneys for labor contracts
Gordon S. Johnston.

This is just on one of 12 attachments in the resolutions section of the site....

Anyone who holds interests in CSHD should be looking at this info. IMO
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
oh yeah Ben and Rufas will be paid $350,000 per year too... LOL

They will register own securities in the form S-3
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Surfer?
Is that from the site you were looking at the other day and the one that Ima is soooo excited about?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Yes 10 its all there.... It is worth the 10 bucks to see this info.

I have no questions this is going to happen.


I just rejoined the site as a full time member.

They have an option of a 4 hour join for 5 bucks but thats not enough time to digest the info.
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Surfer is there a copy of the 10K in it?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL..that is what IMA told me...
I may have to listen to him... [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Yes 10 its all there.... It is worth the 10 bucks to see this info.

I have no questions this is going to happen.


I just rejoined the site as a full time member.

They have an option of a 4 hour join for 5 bucks but thats not enough time to digest the info.


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Surfer is there a copy of the 10K in it?

No 10k


They are also getting a 100k per year car allowance.
Must be for the rollz.... LOL

401k acct.
health care 100%
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Ben and Rufas to dael with all NOBO lists.

They will register own securities in the form S-3
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
surfer you found new info other than what we found the other day. I checked this morning and there were a total of 12 filings and none filed later than 9/22/06? unless I missed something
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
PM
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Anyone know if and when the sub-penny radio interview with Rufas download is going to be available? I wanted to download it and listen to it again this weekend.

Thanks,
TB


 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
CSHD Labor Attorneys:

Irvin, Stanford & Kessler, LLP -- a full service labor and employment law firm. Listed in Martindale-Hubbell's Bar Register of Preeminent Lawyers and located in Atlanta, Georgia, Irvin, Stanford & Kessler, LLP provides consultation to and representation of domestic and international businesses, organizations, executives and individuals.

A full service employment and labor law firm, Irvin, Stanford & Kessler, LLP pledges to serve its clients with insightful and practical labor and employment law guidance. Irvin, Stanford & Kessler, LLP represents clients throughout the United States with a particular focus in the Southeast. Our practice is a reflection of the legal scholarship and workplace experience of our principals and attorneys.

A. McArthur Irvin for over 30 years has successfully advanced management interests against union attacks and elections. He uses skills honed in that arena in the areas of employment discrimination, litigation and trial work. Early in his practice, E. Ray Stanford began developing problem avoidance strategies and teaching clients how to analyze issues arising in the "new" workplace. His successful trial practice relies on presenting these simple concepts to a jury. Gary R. Kessler has concentrated exclusively on labor and employment matters since completing his federal judge clerkship in 1977. As a result of his labor and employment interest and experience, he has represented hundreds of employers in labor and employment preventive, administrative and litigation matters.

http://www.isklaw.com/firm/index.php


~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
CSHD Accounting Firm:


Trust, confidence, knowledge and experience are the foundations for credibility and accomplishment in business. Reznick Group professionals have more than 25 years of experience providing accounting, tax and business advisory services to clients nationwide. The expertise of the firm is broad, ranging from real estate and management advisory to auditing and tax preparation.

Ranked among the top 20 public accounting firms in the nation, Reznick Group is on the move -- continuing to grow nationally, expanding our services, and building upon our leadership as industry experts. Now, more than ever, it is our affirmation to provide our clients with the industry experience, quality work product, and objective and sound business advice that they value.

Reznick Group is a national accounting, tax and business advisory firm that specializes in providing sound, strategic business counsel. The firm works with clients in a broad spectrum of industries, specifically in providing services to real estate professionals; lenders and investors; corporate executives, business owners and entrepreneurs; government professionals; nonprofit professionals; and healthcare administrators.

The mission for the approximately 1,000 employees of Reznick Group is single-minded: to serve our clients’ needs by providing them with the industry expertise, quality work product, objective and sound business advice they value -- to help their businesses succeed.

Reznick Group maintains offices in Atlanta, Georgia; Austin, Texas; Baltimore, Maryland; Bethesda, Maryland; Charlotte, North Carolina; Chicago, Illinois; Sacramento, California and Tysons Corner, Virginia. Reznick Group is a Certified Public Accounting firm and a Professional Corporation.


http://www.reznickgroup.com/sub_main.php?document_id=1§ion_id=1&subpage=11

~BB
 
Posted by Murnak on :
 
Friday night Rufus's call into subpenny radio is replaying all day!FYI
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Good morning all Just joined that site.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Thanks BB for the DD. Still sifting through the humanitarian info.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Yes, BB thanks for that info. Anyone that joined that site mentioned how do I find anything on CSHD?
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Nevermind. I just found the info. It is some great reading.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Make sure to read the disclaimer and be careful posting the information to the thread...it is some great reading and suggest anyone invested in CSHD do the reading..
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Yes 10 its all there.... It is worth the 10 bucks to see this info.

I have no questions this is going to happen.


I just rejoined the site as a full time member.

They have an option of a 4 hour join for 5 bucks but thats not enough time to digest the info.

Nice work Surf...I will check it out later today or tomorrow. My daughter has her first swim meet today which will take most of the day, then there is Texas vs. OU today and then Cowboys vs. Eagles tomorrow. After this last week, I need a break from this for a couple of days. Those activities will be stressful enough...know what I mean?!?!
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
hey st mat, I have gotten thru once or twice, but not lately. Also Mike Alexander has not returned any of my calls. I understand they are very busy doing business and closing deals, but they have to understand they are a publicly traded company. I still cannot understand why they have not set up an IR department, they had better get one in place before listing on the NASD, if they think we're bad with calling all the time wait until they move to a much larger exchange!

I think Mitch is running the IR department for now...I'm sure they will hire a couple of people once this thing happens...especially if it goes to Nasdaq. [Wink]
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
back on now since yesterday morning .... figured trading movement to fluctuate and/or move sideways abit.....and knowing I need to be patient...kinda of glad I did not wacth the manipulation antics continuing yesterday.............while reading through the pages be to catch up, I came to your post mnvestor...........due to my own reasons, I've wiped the tears from my eyes and have refreshed my resolve.......T.Y. for puting the article about Hoyt's up and the inspiration it provides.......Keep the Faith !!! folks and keep pushing ahead.....we make our own future so long as we have faith. Best Regards to All. [Smile] [Cool] [Big Grin]


quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
I posted elsewhere but if anyone is feeling down about this stock or need a litte perspective on life then please read and view:
http://cjcphoto.com/can/


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
back on now since yesterday morning .... figured trading movement to fluctuate and/or move sideways abit.....and knowing I need to be patient...kinda of glad I did not wacth the manipulation antics continuing yesterday.............while reading through the pages be to catch up, I came to your post mnvestor...........due to my own reasons, I've wiped the tears from my eyes and have refreshed my resolve.......T.Y. for puting the article about Hoyt's up and the inspiration it provides.......Keep the Faith !!! folks and keep pushing ahead.....we make our own future so long as we have faith. Best Regards to All. [Smile] [Cool] [Big Grin]


quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
I posted elsewhere but if anyone is feeling down about this stock or need a litte perspective on life then please read and view:
http://cjcphoto.com/can/


You know that was the most touching thing I have seen. Thankyou..

Thanks mnvestor
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 

 
Posted by plni on :
 
I was overwhelmed,what a fine story of a great man.eisenhower said "there are no extraordinary men just ordinary men doing extraordinary things.My hat is off to you.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
good stuff.. [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Mnvestor, I saw them on TV.
Stories like that give us all hope for mankind.

Thanks for giving us a time to reflect on what really matters... "Looking out for on another"

Mnvestors link, great real life story ~
http://cjcphoto.com/can/
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ok, some are debating about going to nasdaq because of the $4-5 requirement (whatever the price has to be)... has anyone thought that they may be able to go straight there because of the 15 dollar reset? last i checked 15 is higher than 4-5... so shouldn't that squash that reasoning?

and as for the reset... like many from the began have stated, it can happen with the 368 rule (i think thats the rule... a little help if it isn't)

figured i'd throw that out there... just something to think about...

[ October 07, 2006, 15:09: Message edited by: P Rowds ]
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Yes 10 its all there.... It is worth the 10 bucks to see this info.

I have no questions this is going to happen.


I just rejoined the site as a full time member.

They have an option of a 4 hour join for 5 bucks but thats not enough time to digest the info.

YEah surfer you were on it before anyone else...Right on... the only thing you did wrong was get a 4 hour membership! HEHE! LOL!
I'm gonna dive back in it!
Ima
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Not that I ever had doubts, but that site just convinced me again. They can bash away.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Board resolutions 9/19/06


It is hereby discussed, voted upon agreed to and resolved that an escrow account trust fund will be set up for the approximate $66,000,000 million shres that may have been sold in the market, but may not exist. The resolution therefore sets forth $100,000,000 million dollars will be placed in escrow as a reserve to address these shares and will be replenished as the stockholders become known up to and does not exceed $250,000,000
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
ryan was on it too...
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
I've been reading it since this morning
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
you know the above statement is heavy duty.

Now I think that is a typo and means to say that they think there is an additional 66 mil. shares not $ sign which appears.

As per they are setting forth $100,00,000 not to exceed $250,000,000....

Thats a pretty penny to set aside for unaccounted shares..

BUT the math on 250/66 is only 3.79 per share if there is indeed 66 mil. short and everyone of those steps forward and is brought to CSHD's attn.

interesting.

Maybe Rufus will give all the MM's some compensation for all the shares they shorted.... LOL LOL LOLL---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----
Don't think so
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
as they become known up to.... LOL

Sounds like Ben wrote that.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
I guess its only natural to become impatient, but deals like this just dont happen overnight.JMHO
 
Posted by li on :
 
Tax, I just read your post, and yes your guess of my history in larger exchanges was correct [Smile] .

I will never take offense to something someone says to me on a board, so no worries there.

I've only given it about five minutes of thought but, if naked shorts create air shares that increases supply in the market if I'm not mistaken. Following that unless there is enough demand to counter balance the increase in Supply artificial or not, PPS drops and Demand drops...no?

I see it may work differently in you example but the principle is still holding true. If demand was high enough for the stock shares would be traded and price would still increase, hence the run of two weeks ago, people demanded shares and paid more for them.
 
Posted by li on :
 
Also, to Tax or anyone else PLEASE help me with point number four as it as held me up with this company for a while now
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
ryan was on it too...

Yeah you're right surf... Ryan was all over it also.
BTW Mnvestor made a good point about being careful what we bring over here from there as it is a paid for service and it seems that we aren't to bring that all over here... My recomendation is for anyone who has $500 or more dollars in CSHD to just invest $10 to see the documents for themselves.
JMHO
Ima
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Ihub is ablaze with weekend bashing...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doni any Baby News?
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Ihub is ablaze with weekend bashing...


 
Posted by glassman on :
 
kinda sad to see all that clutch slippage over there ain't it? [Roll Eyes]

just watched a great Truck race at 'dega...

kinda reminds me of this stock...

a whole lotta wreckage before it's all over, but somebody is gonna win...
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Murnak:
Friday night Rufus's call into subpenny radio is replaying all day!FYI

Is this the 4 hour interview from before or did rufus call in again?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The wife and I took a long walk today to try and coax our little daughter down towards freedom, I'll let you guys know if it worked [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Doni any Baby News?
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Ihub is ablaze with weekend bashing...



 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
Also, to Tax or anyone else PLEASE help me with point number four as it as held me up with this company for a while now

I'll try again. The Asset's that they manage bring income in a few different froms. One being interest as shown in the Audited Financials, the other will be in deriving income from the funding of the Joint Ventures and Subs. The following is directly from the Audited financials and was generated from the original Bond and UCC Note for one quarter.

OPERATING ACTIVITIES

Net Income $18,530,865


Net Cash Provided by Operating Activities


$18,530,865

The first step is acquiring the Assets. Once this is accomplished the income follows. Like I stated in my previous post, a bit more clear here, First you acquire the chicken that lays the egg, then you can sell the eggs for a profit.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Board resolutions 9/19/06


It is hereby discussed, voted upon agreed to and resolved that an escrow account trust fund will be set up for the approximate $66,000,000 million shres that may have been sold in the market, but may not exist. The resolution therefore sets forth $100,000,000 million dollars will be placed in escrow as a reserve to address these shares and will be replenished as the stockholders become known up to and does not exceed $250,000,000

Can you explain exactly what this means?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Stocktrader,
they have put $100,000,000 away to "pay for shares" that are being traded in the open market, even though those shares may not exist, and if those funds get used up...they will add more up to $250M
they have done this so if they ever decide to "buy back" the shares they would have the funds to do so.
Rufus spoke of this in his last subpenny radio talk.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Stocktrader,
they have put $100,000,000 away to "pay for shares" that are being traded in the open market, even though those shares may not exist, and if those funds get used up...they will add more up to $250M
they have done this so if they ever decide to "buy back" the shares they would have the funds to do so.
Rufus spoke of this in his last subpenny radio talk.

Don't rule out cash divi... [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Anyone seen Sceptor?...
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Anyone seen Sceptor?...

he is probably espending all his profit from CSHD


LOL

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
ME thinks it may be time to put a move on the short cakes ... thinkin' about certs ... once we start running the squeeze, we may easily be able to see $50 to $100 pps soon ... one may get certs on say 80% to 90% of their shares and leave the remaining 10% to 20% to sell sometime after reset, as desired ...

This would give one the initial investment back plus profit ... it would add greater squeeze
pressure on short covering ... it would also give one the advantage of holding real (free) shares!

I am personally tired of the shorts having their way! Collectively we can group together and
maybe invite other boards to join the effort. We can spur on some major action for this CSHD!

What say we? ... the "collective" effort or wing it? Personally, I am going to do this and 'am advising those, I have introduced to this play, to strongly consider doing the same ... all I have talked to so far, are going forward with this scenario.

For me, it has always been about the big play and the big money ... how about you?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
I guess its only natural to become impatient, but deals like this just dont happen overnight.JMHO

what might be "a deal like this" ? Any examples?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
I guess its only natural to become impatient, but deals like this just dont happen overnight.JMHO

what might be "a deal like this" ? Any examples?
Tex,... If YOU can't tell us, what are we gonna tell you? [Smile]

It "should'nt" make sense, but it does...
Interesting play, is it not?!.. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
I guess its only natural to become impatient, but deals like this just dont happen overnight.JMHO

what might be "a deal like this" ? Any examples?
Tex,... If YOU can't tell us, what are we gonna tell you? [Smile]

It "should'nt" make sense, but it does...
Interesting play, is it not?!.. [Big Grin]

lol, not asking *you* (no put-down intended)--look at Bigstocks' birthdate...perhaps BS has seen something similar?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Before I post this I want to qualify it with this: I am not saying this is the case but just food for thought.

With many pulling a majority if not all their Certs, could this just be a strategy that Rufus had along? The more Certs that are pulled the less the sell off will be after the reset. I know that the reset is possible because of the DD we hae done on this thread and that we found more than just the 386 rule that allows it. So, how would one go about saving a stock from a massive sell off, easy get people to request Certs. If 50% of the shares are in Physical Certs than the inmmediately tradable float is 15M(Approx) Much easier to help sustain it at that level. Yes it does help force the squeeze but as I and Glassman have commented on previously, the law to cover has no teeth in it. Would I choose to pay a $500,000 fine VS covering for 500,000,000 or more? I'd pay the fine. If you look at past history the fine is more likely to happen than a forced cover. Now if Rufus has a silver bullet that no one is aware of and uses it in combination with people pulling Certs which decreases the immediately tradable shares then maybe there is a chance that a cover will happen.

Now, if the cover happens it will more than likely happen over the course of a few days to maybe a few weeks. Remember that Market Makers are resourceful especially if they are bing helped by Brokers and the DTCC. The problem actually involves all three and not just one. Go back and read about the DTCC, Market Makers and Brokers and you will see that, if the short position is as reported, it could not be accomplished without all three being involved.

You may ask WHY?

That's easy because the DTC should be informing brokers of the FTD's and the Brokers should be taking action when shares we have purchased don't show up. Has anyone been informed that shares showing in their account were never cleared? I haven't heard of anyone posting this info. The closest would be Ameritrade not allowing new positions to be taken in CSHD. I know that Scottrade usually stops buying and sometimes selling certain issues when the FTD's mount up. How do I know this? Because they call them clearing restrictions. OK, so what is a clearing problem? Failure To Deliver(FTD). Let me post from my Scottrade account so you will see.

Clearing Restrictions

Scottrade has set restrictions on the following securities due to clearing restrictions:

No Buys/Sells Only
No Buys & No Sells

CESV GFTX#
CWIR DTSN#
CSJJ BTYHV##
VWKM TSFYV#
GSFT BCIT#
.MKZUN PAIMPR
CMKX WWYWB
INOV# CITI
TRZA# LSRI#
MSMC# .PGFB
IVCO PLYCF
SEIH
UGMI
HPNN
GMZC#
.AFPUN
GRDL
USCI
.FCEUN
.TPWUN
.TPLUN
AWHB
CESY
INCA
.AIUN
RVNM
AFRD
.IPLUN
.TAYUN
ORSTF
BBVAY
IPPLF
.PGFB
.PUB
.CVLUN
.TRF X
PHLC
RVEM
CWPUF
PAIM
SMMW

No Buys/Sells Only - You cannot place buy orders on this security. Only sell orders can be placed.

**Symbols with the "#" after the symbol cannot be traded online. Please contact your local branch for assistance.

Symbols appearing in green text are recent additions or changes to the list.

THe second column is the No buys or Sells column.

A bit interesting wouldn't you say.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Wally
I have mentioned the getting of CERTS as to not having such a sell off after the reset in earlier posts, as have you and other posters.
I do think that "this reason" is one of the reasons that Rufus has for us getting CERTS and I also feel that it could very well be part of another plan in reducing the possibilities of the shorting of the stock..both legal and illegal
What else Rufus may have planned with the CERTS I do not know...
and for the record, I do not have CERTS
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
I guess its only natural to become impatient, but deals like this just dont happen overnight.JMHO

i am in the impatient category LOL, that is why i have been flipping , and monday i will be out completly if there is no VOLUME movement or if the PPS still sinking .


all this is MHO


i am trying to stay long but in the other hand "i will protect my capital"
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally
I have mentioned the getting of CERTS as to not having such a sell off after the reset in earlier posts, as have you and other posters.
I do think that "this reason" is one of the reasons that Rufus has for us getting CERTS and I also feel that it could very well be part of another plan in reducing the possibilities of the shorting of the stock..both legal and illegal
What else Rufus may have planned with the CERTS I do not know...
and for the record, I do not have CERTS

I understand what you are saying but something came to mind tonight in reading that they(Rufus/CSHD) is putting money aside to cover possible counterfeit shares. Why? They did not issue them they are not responsible for them. So why put money aside for a possible buyback of shares at prices up to $35 per share? Maybe just maybe that money is being put aside for those that have requested Certs and will not be able to participate in the shorts squeeze. This would be a way to counter any litigation since, afterall, people are doing this at the bequest of the CEO of CSHD. Like I said before, Just a thought.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Wally thoughtfully posts:

"Before I post this I want to qualify it with this: I am not saying this is the case but just food for thought.

With many pulling a majority if not all their Certs, could this just be a strategy that Rufus had along?"

Me and my assumptions [Roll Eyes]

I thought "we" collectively assumed this (your argument) to be the case. That is, the more physical certs pulled, the fewer that can be sold, thereby retarding a "free-fall."

Further, I assumed all would recognize the devil's advocate "con" argument that any "company/insider shares" -- from wherever -- could thusly be more safely dumped (or "trickled" even)...let's say for argument's sake, while on the way to South America to see a guy 'bout some logs...

Wally, in same spirit of hey-we're-just-sittin'-round-the-table-here, am not saying that's what's happening. Simply different routes for trains-of-thought...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
One other item. The reason I am not requesting besides what I stated earlier is the fact that I have saved my buy transaction from Scottrade and now have written confirmation from them that states, If I did not request that my name be witheld from the company My name appears on the NOBO list as a beneficial owner. I think this would give me a pretty air tight case against them if it should come to that. I have left them no wiggle room. I have also recieved in the mail information from companies that I have held for a perios of time such as Proxy statement and investor packets. So, IMO, why should I request Certs. I would encourage anyone who has a Scottrade account or for that matter any other online account to send a simple email asking them if I have NonOBjectionable Owner status. It's called CYA, as Rufus might say Cover Your Butt.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
Tax, I just read your post, and yes your guess of my history in larger exchanges was correct [Smile] .

I will never take offense to something someone says to me on a board, so no worries there.

I've only given it about five minutes of thought but, if naked shorts create air shares that increases supply in the market if I'm not mistaken. Following that unless there is enough demand to counter balance the increase in Supply artificial or not, PPS drops and Demand drops...no?

I see it may work differently in you example but the principle is still holding true. If demand was high enough for the stock shares would be traded and price would still increase, hence the run of two weeks ago, people demanded shares and paid more for them.

No Li my example and your example are the same. Supply and demand rules still apply, and always will. Problem is with Naked Shorting there is no way to know use an important number like "outstanding shares" when choosing a security for investment.

Supply is an unknown. You point out that with added supply the demand and price goes down. Well with unlimited supply good new causes the price to fall rather than climb. You can not use the numbers filed to evaluate "supply and demand" in the OTCBB. The idea of a "Free" market doen't always exist.

The larger markets do not have this problem. Books must balance and exchange seats, legal procedings and delisting from the exchange are penaltys of not following the rules and regulations. OTCBB is different, it is what the experts call "risky" or "high risk". Reason is that filing rules are less strict, costs are less significant, and regulations are pourous and lacking enforcment.

Now with all that being said you can look at CSHD's volume and PPS and see specifically how much manipulation has had a part in the current low PPS. The very day RegSHO went into effect you saw an immediate drop in volume on this stock. Legal shorting was restricted that day and the MM's complied, but the recent price walk downs that we have witnessed could only be comming from one of two places. 1. the sell off of investors who have lost confidence in a $15 reset. or 2. Illegal Naked Shorting. Why well legal shorting is still restricted, CSHD had not been off the RegSHO list for the past 43 days.

Now if you take the NOBO vs the DTC numbers you see how badly this stock is shorted so you can only imagine how badly it is illegally shorted as well as legally shorted.

My guess is that the supply of shares of CSHD has illegally increased everyday since this stock announced it's merger. The price has been held in place as best the MM can, it has not corrected itself to $21 a share which reflects 3X book value which is typical of a company with lack luster financials and uncertainty. Most healthy companies trade 4 to 5 times the book value.

Just my opinion, but I can follow up most of this with examples and solid proof of manipulation in this OTCBB stock and others.

Welcome to the OTCBB we all visit the "high risk" and potential "high reward" stocks at least once in our lives, and I am not trying to scare anyone off. Just saying that you need to adapt and adjust to survive.

Welcome thanks for your earlier questions and comentary I always encourage this type of discussion. Because the differences in the large and small exchanges are huge and should be explored in order to allow us to be better traders on both.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
Wally thoughtfully posts:

"Before I post this I want to qualify it with this: I am not saying this is the case but just food for thought.

With many pulling a majority if not all their Certs, could this just be a strategy that Rufus had along?"

Me and my assumptions [Roll Eyes]

I thought "we" collectively assumed this (your argument) to be the case. That is, the more physical certs pulled, the fewer that can be sold, thereby retarding a "free-fall."

Further, I assumed all would recognize the devil's advocate "con" argument that any "company/insider shares" -- from wherever -- could thusly be more safely dumped (or "trickled" even)...let's say for argument's sake, while on the way to South America to see a guy 'bout some logs...

Wally, in same spirit of hey-we're-just-sittin'-round-the-table-here, am not saying that's what's happening. Simply different routes for trains-of-thought...

Understood but having read the many posts concerning the pulling of Certs, I have come to the conclusion that many are doing for fear of loss. That they may not be able to participate in the buyback, dividends or even access to the realtime features that Rufus has stated as works in progress. Therefore I attempted to bring back an earlier discussion that centered on the reasons for pulling Certs. Maybe I missed something but all the recent conversation had nothing to do with my assumptions that the real reason was to in essence tie up these shares. Since I 've seen quite a few new people posting I revisited it. As I said it's just food for thought and nothing I know or could prove for certain.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Although it is not in writing (unless you call the PR about the NOBO list and contacting Ben if you find yourself in a short position as being "in writting") but Rufus said on Sub penny radio that IF he were to do a buy back or anything that needed verification that you owned the shares, HE WOULD make sure that we were taken care of...unless we had some amount that might bankrupt the company...I am not worried...but there is ALWAYS the possibility.

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally
I have mentioned the getting of CERTS as to not having such a sell off after the reset in earlier posts, as have you and other posters.
I do think that "this reason" is one of the reasons that Rufus has for us getting CERTS and I also feel that it could very well be part of another plan in reducing the possibilities of the shorting of the stock..both legal and illegal
What else Rufus may have planned with the CERTS I do not know...
and for the record, I do not have CERTS

I understand what you are saying but something came to mind tonight in reading that they(Rufus/CSHD) is putting money aside to cover possible counterfeit shares. Why? They did not issue them they are not responsible for them. So why put money aside for a possible buyback of shares at prices up to $35 per share? Maybe just maybe that money is being put aside for those that have requested Certs and will not be able to participate in the shorts squeeze. This would be a way to counter any litigation since, afterall, people are doing this at the bequest of the CEO of CSHD. Like I said before, Just a thought.

GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Li and Tax,

Just to illustrate Tax's point, if we take the numbers at dace value, CSHD now has close to 3.25 times the shares that should be there. Supply should be 30M yet it's 106M. Ok taking these numbers let's just multiply the current PPS of $2 by the amount of AirShares. The PPS should be $6.75. A far cry from what it currently sits at. Now the hard thing to factor in, is How much higher would it have gone if the additional Shares weren't there. Double maybe just 1.5 times, where would this put us. Conservatively at $10. Much closer to the the proposed reset of $15.

THis is why whenever the supply is manipulated the demand is no longer a factor you can truly gauge. Of course this is My Opinion and nothing more.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Wally,

As far as I know? There's only one reason to pull certs nowadays...musical chairs: see who's standing w/o a chair.

The guy in the GLCK(E) "squeeze" claimed *all* the outstanding certs, as I recall. And *there* was a gem-dandy "squeeze-run," but I don't know of any who got caught without chairs...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Although it is not in writing (unless you call the PR about the NOBO list and contacting Ben if you find yourself in a short position as being "in writting") but Rufus said on Sub penny radio that IF he were to do a buy back or anything that needed verification that you owned the shares, HE WOULD make sure that we were taken care of...unless we had some amount that might bankrupt the company...I am not worried...but there is ALWAYS the possibility.

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally
I have mentioned the getting of CERTS as to not having such a sell off after the reset in earlier posts, as have you and other posters.
I do think that "this reason" is one of the reasons that Rufus has for us getting CERTS and I also feel that it could very well be part of another plan in reducing the possibilities of the shorting of the stock..both legal and illegal
What else Rufus may have planned with the CERTS I do not know...
and for the record, I do not have CERTS

I understand what you are saying but something came to mind tonight in reading that they(Rufus/CSHD) is putting money aside to cover possible counterfeit shares. Why? They did not issue them they are not responsible for them. So why put money aside for a possible buyback of shares at prices up to $35 per share? Maybe just maybe that money is being put aside for those that have requested Certs and will not be able to participate in the shorts squeeze. This would be a way to counter any litigation since, afterall, people are doing this at the bequest of the CEO of CSHD. Like I said before, Just a thought.

GLTA
Wally


He also said he would take care of known owners first and if need be get a lawyer to aid those with shares that didnot appear on the NOBO list. This till creates a fear of loss. Believe me in one thing, having spent the majority of my career in Sales, the fear of loss is the great motivator. It's taught in every book on sales I ever read and I read a lot during a 30+ year career.

Please do not get me wrong. I am not saying this is a Scam, I am not saying Rufus or anyone else is dishonsest, I am only stating some possibilities, nothing more. I'd much rather discuss this than who TUT is or if TUT is a terrorist in disguise. It is much more germaine to the stock and our possible risk VS reward. Afterall I am still holding shares and have many family members that have bought a lot of shares in this company. It's all good.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
Wally,

As far as I know? There's only one reason to pull certs nowadays...musical chairs: see who's standing w/o a chair.

The guy in the GLCK(E) "squeeze" claimed *all* the outstanding certs, as I recall. And *there* was a gem-dandy "squeeze-run," but I don't know of any who got caught without chairs...

See Tex, I agree with you. I have never recommend that anyone get Certs because the squeeze if it comes will happen. I just want to be able to participate in it. I am not one to dream of $100+ PPS for this stock. They may happen but at this point in time with the tremendous DD many have done and unselfishly shared, I don't see the justification. It's a matter of perspective and trading style.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
So Wally ~ I am in total agreeance, but just to add a comment to your above statements. If a majority of the certs are pulled and this prevents a selloff (which implies price drop) and maybe forces a short squeeze (which implies a price increase). Does this mean that if everyone gets their certs then we "all" should see an opportunity to see the reset price or greater due to a stabilized price in the middle of a squeeze rather than a sharpe decline in price that negates the reset opporunity for most shareholders.

Personally I don't mind holding certs if it stabilizes the price.

Disclaimer: I am getting certs on 80% of my shares, but I base this on what I anticipate as a future price not the reset or squeeze price. I have left enough loose to recognize serious profits if this all happens as stated. I am a majority long. [Smile] (Thats what she said. [Big Grin] )
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
10 of from-the-mouths-of-babes notes:

". . . . unless we had some amount that might bankrupt the company . . . ."

This seems a worthy path--how might shareholders be in such a position?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
So Wally ~ I am in total agreeance, but just to add a comment to your above statements. If a majority of the certs are pulled and this prevents a selloff (which implies price drop) and maybe forces a short squeeze (which implies a price increase). Does this mean that if everyone gets their certs then we "all" should see an opportunity to see the reset price or greater due to a stabilized price in the middle of a squeeze rather than a sharpe decline in price that negates the reset opporunity for most shareholders.

Personally I don't mind holding certs if it stabilizes the price.

Disclaimer: I am getting certs on 80% of my shares, but I base this on what I anticipate as a future price not the reset or squeeze price. I have left enough loose to recognize serious profits if this all happens as stated. I am a majority long. [Smile] (Thats what she said. [Big Grin] )

Well it could but my experience with extremely loe float stocks is that MM's can manipulate them much easier. Look at stocks that do Reverse Splits. They seem to drop drastically in most case after the split because of the share structure. Of course this only happens in 80 to 90% of the case some work. If the company and other institutions do support the price then they do stabilize. It's a guessing game here as to what will happen once the reset occurs. The old risk VS reward. Right.

No I don't don't have a crystal ball that works and will tell how this will eventually pan out, yet it is because of that, that I have decided to not get Certs so that I can judge for myself and get out when the risk seems to high, or hold if the reward seems to be attainable.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I'm starting to feel like I'm bogarting the board maybe I should slow down.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ok here's one...

Egder won't be open on Monday, Rufus can't file the 10k, so with Monday being a 10k-less day, do we think we'll see a PR?...

How about the PPS?...

Any thoughts on "when" Rufus might "drop the bomb?" -and why ~
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
ok here's one...

Egder won't be open on Monday, Rufus can't file the 10k, so with Monday being a 10k-less day, do we think we'll see a PR?...

How about the PPS?...

Any thoughts on "when" Rufus might "drop the bomb?" -and why ~

I would not be surprised to see Rufus drop a PR Monday morning at say 2 to 3 AM before the market opens. Remember that CSHD has not PRed anything regarding EcoWood. THe PR's were from EcoWood but nothing other than they were in negotiations with CSHD was said. Wouldn't it be nice for a PR to come out confirming an agreement had been reached from CSHD and showing the numbers from EcoWood's PR. I wonder how that would affect the PPS?

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by beandog24 on :
 
Any thoughts on the short position that is still left here. 70 million and change was reported i believe still has to be quite substantial IMO.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
**************************************************

Oh No, VIN I don't know if we can be friends today,,,,

Your Chicago BEARS vs. My Buffalo BILLS!!!

(I'm afraid, I'm very afraid)

**************************************************
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I know if the Bears win we get a 10K & a price reset this week!..............If the Bills win we get a PR, 10K, & a price rest this week!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
I know if the Bears win we get a 10K & a price reset this week!..............If the Bills win we get a PR, 10K, & a price rest this week!!!

LOL ~~

I think I can get behind that! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I know many might not care but supposedly TUT will be on paltalk tonight. Might be entertaining.

7 p.m. live broadcast starts.

This is the rumor on HSM anyway don't hold me to it.
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
Correct me if I'm wrong here people, but are not the 10K and the reset to completely seperate events.

I've been listening to the replay's of this week's subpennyradio broadcasts, I clearly remember Rufus and company saying there will be practally nothing new that wasn't in an ealier 8K, just a few required boxes filled in for SEC rules and possibly some minor new contracts (or something like that).

Everyone seams to be biting their nails for the 10k thinking it will equal some big swing in PPS when they have been telling us it won't be anything special... I'm confused.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spooky:
Correct me if I'm wrong here people, but are not the 10K and the reset to completely seperate events.

I've been listening to the replay's of this week's subpennyradio broadcasts, I clearly remember Rufus and company saying there will be practally nothing new that wasn't in an ealier 8K, just a few required boxes filled in for SEC rules and possibly some minor new contracts (or something like that).

Everyone seams to be biting their nails for the 10k thinking it will equal some big swing in PPS when they have been telling us it won't be anything special... I'm confused.

According to what has been said, Immeidately after the 10K there will be a halt in trading and then the reset upon resumption. The waiting for the 10K is because of it being the final step prior to the reset.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
MISPRINT!!! TYPO!!!

It will be on SUBPENNY radio , Not paltalk!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Well explianed Wally!!


Thanks for the info Surfer! Very Interesting..

Hi Chart!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
LOL....Game on Baby!

quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
**************************************************

Oh No, VIN I don't know if we can be friends today,,,,

Your Chicago BEARS vs. My Buffalo BILLS!!!

(I'm afraid, I'm very afraid)

**************************************************


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Alright!!

Are you ready for some FOOTBALL!!!! [Big Grin]
[play nice now kids he he } [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Spooky:
Correct me if I'm wrong here people, but are not the 10K and the reset to completely seperate events.

I've been listening to the replay's of this week's subpennyradio broadcasts, I clearly remember Rufus and company saying there will be practally nothing new that wasn't in an ealier 8K, just a few required boxes filled in for SEC rules and possibly some minor new contracts (or something like that).

Everyone seams to be biting their nails for the 10k thinking it will equal some big swing in PPS when they have been telling us it won't be anything special... I'm confused.

According to what has been said, Immeidately after the 10K there will be a halt in trading and then the reset upon resumption. The waiting for the 10K is because of it being the final step prior to the reset.

GLTA
Wally

Additionally, a 10-K and 10-Q are much different than a bunch of 8K's... Financials noted in the 10K are the general source for most financial institutions when looking to invest. Look at Yahoo's Key Stats for CSHD, it still shows FHAL's numbers. Just wait till about a week or two after the 10K that page will have $800 million in assets. I will be very pretty and hard for anyone to call it skeptical once the numbers are published in the Annual report and 10-K.

Here is the link mentioned:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=CSHD.OB
 
Posted by beatheodds on :
 
When is the 10k comming out? Im still a shaking from the unseen financials from SLJB. What happens if they dont produce a 10k?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I believe that they have until Monday October 16th before they would have an "E" posted after their symbol. AFTER that? I am not sure I think that they get 30 days and then they get delisted, I could be wrong.
I don't forsee it coming to that, It would simply not make sence to go through this BS that Rufus and Company have to become delisted...

quote:
Originally posted by beatheodds:
When is the 10k comming out? Im still a shaking from the unseen financials from SLJB. What happens if they dont produce a 10k?


 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
MISPRINT!!! TYPO!!!

It will be on SUBPENNY radio , Not paltalk!!

hey surf, what time will it be on subpenny, west coast time ?? tia
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Please post updates for Subpenny... [Smile]
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
MISPRINT!!! TYPO!!!

It will be on SUBPENNY radio , Not paltalk!!

Sorry I missed it- who is on Sub-radio tonight?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Imapoor, check your PM's. Thanks
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
MISPRINT!!! TYPO!!!

It will be on SUBPENNY radio , Not paltalk!!

Sorry I missed it- who is on Sub-radio tonight?
Tut from HSM, will be on spr at 11 pm est.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Does anyone have a good service that will email whenever there is news on a stock so that they can send me an email update whenever something happens? I am going to be away from internet access during trading hours for a while, but will still have email access, and want to set up some alerts to email if any news comes along. TIA!
 
Posted by LARSON on :
 
TUT on subpennyradio at 11pm tonight
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LARSON:
TUT on subpennyradio at 11pm tonight

LMAO


WHO IS TUT?????
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Anyone else want to field this question?

Why on the Georgia Site are all of the Conversion Solutions filings under the listing of Real Estate index?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:
Originally posted by LARSON:
TUT on subpennyradio at 11pm tonight

LMAO


WHO IS TUT?????

The dubious mummified prognosticator on HSM.
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:
Originally posted by LARSON:
TUT on subpennyradio at 11pm tonight

LMAO


WHO IS TUT?????

The dubious mummified prognosticator on HSM.
I thought the live show ended at 10pm EST?

7pm - 10pm eastern time Sun - Thu LIVE broadcast
10pm - 12am eastern time Sun - Thu Freeform music including requests
12am - 7pm eastern time Sun - Thu Loop of previous evening show mixed with freeform music
7pm - 7pm eastern time Fri - Sun Loop of previous two weeks' archived shows
 
Posted by dog on :
 
He is doing a special allowance cuz Tut can't come on until then...
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
He is doing a special allowance cuz Tut can't come on until then...

Ahhhh- thanks Dog!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
How'd you hear about it dog?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Simon discussed it at the beginning of the show... said Tut really wants to get something off his chest but can't come on until 11pm EST.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Anybody know why the CSHD filings on the Georgia website are in the real estate filings?

These are business contracts are they not?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Dog I was looking all around the site to see if there was anything anywhere else.

I don't know where else they would put them on that site.

under Files and forms seems like it would make more sense.

I don't know
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Where they are filed is up to the State of Georgia is it not? Rufus and company can't tell them where to file it?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Do most companies file with the State like this? Maybe he put it there to add legitimacy to his claims.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Dog,
I assume its just as you say...he filed the forms there to add legitimacy to his claims.

The county he filed them with his pretty much where he lives and where the office is.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
hehe... got bounced out of Paltalk.

Log in as analogdog. Anybody vouch for me?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Simon discussed it at the beginning of the show... said Tut really wants to get something off his chest but can't come on until 11pm EST.

Well I can't wait to hear W-T-H that is ~

Another week of drama?...

And, about the possible Squeeze play coming...

It's true that if there is a big enought debt that the responsible party "could" take the fine rather then paying for the shares to cover...

"""BUT"""

Not everyone would do this IMO, perhaps some who don't have many to cover will! Why have a fine if you can cover?... So let's not count out a run after reset just yet, IMO ~

Just too many ways this can go yet, but what can happen is being narrowed down. That's why I can't wait to hear wth Tut has to say...

Does anyone know if we'll be able to "hear" Tut?...
Or will it be an chat room typing thing?...

This could be interesting just to find out more about him, what if we HEAR that it's Bill Gates?!! (not that I think that, but get what I mean?...)

Here's to good news! [Smile]
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
Simon just mentioned that he IS expecting a call in from TUT in about 45mins.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Does anyone have a good service that will email whenever there is news on a stock so that they can send me an email update whenever something happens? I am going to be away from internet access during trading hours for a while, but will still have email access, and want to set up some alerts to email if any news comes along. TIA!

I use businesswire.com a lot...there are others, though. Pretty easy to find, actually...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
dogmando is on the phone with Tut going over the questions.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
dogmando is on the phone with Tut going over the questions.

dog, gotta link?..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
chart come to paltalk theyre piping it in.. its an invite only room
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
cool ~
thx BB [Smile]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Why do they need to go over questions before comming on the SubPenny show?

I was under the impression that TUT had something to say. Why does he need to prepare? I just don't understand and am not getting a warm and fuzzy feeling about this.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Tut is on
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
He speaks LOL.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Can you guys keep us in the loop as to what they're saying?

Thanks!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
sounds like mid 50's to me
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Let me know what is said... not able to make the event. I am just praying he isn't trying to get some sort of confession off his chest. I am hoping for good news.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
He won't say who he is
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Jeez, don't even say that tax! Stilol hanging on to some hope that this will actually play out as promised! [Smile]
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Does he sound Asian?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
sounds canadian
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Funny.... I just saw an ad for the popcap game "Luxor". Not funny haha, but funny interesting.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Someone clarify the cert thing on here when he talks about it, i cant tune in.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Jeez, don't even say that tax! Stilol hanging on to some hope that this will actually play out as promised! [Smile]

Sorry Vin I will try and bury my pesimism and show my optimism to help, "keep the dreams alive". [Big Grin]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
he is saying all shares will be fine even un certed. Correct
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Jeez, don't even say that tax! Stilol hanging on to some hope that this will actually play out as promised! [Smile]

Sorry Vin I will try and bury my pesimism and show my optimism to help, "keep the dreams alive". [Big Grin]
That's it...manage the illusion! LOL ...just kidding, not bashing.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
in the end the final shareholder has to be covered.
This is not just a short squeeze.

The co. is growing very fast.

the most unique situation from the ground floor up.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
all I read is blah, blah, blah...where's the 10k?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
The oppurtunities here are incredible.

To much DD on B.S. Look at 8 K everything there.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
look at activities behind scenes.

Raised 5 bil. $ for republican party.

military in AISS.

Award.

Congressional metal of distinction

Euroclear bond has much more distinction behind it.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Where can we verify the 5billion raised for republican party?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
The co. right now is in the reverse merger process.

at this stage every filing is under microscope.. Can't be a scam at this level.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
I think it was $5 million not billion.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
The co. right now is in the reverse merger process.

at this stage every filing is under microscope.. Can't be a scam at this level.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Cant be a scam at this level. Rufus and ben won't have any shares freed up untill 90 days after the merger.
sept. 13th. merger complete.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
they have nothing to gain here but jail time.

won't be able to get anything by the SEC at this level.

He and his group are shareholders...

Not an insider.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Notes from Tut and Subpenny
~5 billion in help for the republican and the clean up of 911..
~Similar to an IPO.
~It can't be a scam at this level example...
look at 8k filings and the 15 a share...the SEC makes them proove that this is real...they question things...and there is no way that you can "fool" the SEC.
~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion the 90 day ticker starts when the 10k and reset are completed
~he is not an insider, he does not have more than 10% of the company
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
reference to the republican party.

The U.N.

He has powerful connections.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Where can we find fact that he raised 5 billion for the republican party and clean up of 9/11
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
simon asks how big a deal is the award from the rep.

He earned it and is involved on a deeper level than just contributing.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Guys & Gals:

Here's a site I found while trying to DD the Donations to Republican Party. I typed in Harris & there was a lot with that name but not him, then I did Conversion & 2 things not them. Any other ideas? Try this link....

http://www.fecinfo.com/cgi-win/x_allindiv.exe
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
nor is he (tut) an insider in ther terms of a non-discosure agreement (i.e. consultant, employee, etc.)
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I just want to know where we can get any proof of these republican linkings.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I not impressed. We researched the Republican of the Year Award and it didn't seem that presitages. He also is saying that he and his GROUP are investors but not insiders
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys & Gals:

Here's a site I found while trying to DD the Donations to Republican Party. I typed in Harris & there was a lot with that name but not him, then I did Conversion & 2 things not them. Any other ideas? Try this link....

http://www.fecinfo.com/cgi-win/x_allindiv.exe

no-go, need a user name... fyi
thx anyway [Smile]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
He has bigger plans than just conversion

His goals are intended to better alot of situations in the world.

make a better life for the shareholders themselves
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I not impressed. We researched the Republican of the Year Award and it didn't seem that presitages. He also is saying that he and his GROUP are investors but not insiders

Can anyone call in...and talk about how it was DD'ed that this award was a "joke".
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Chart- I don't know why I can get on it. That's weird. I will try to back pedal & see how I did it.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Jenna, copy/paste [Smile]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
First question only shows that they got together on Paltalk and decided to make statements through questions instead of asking real questions.

OK. Enough. Rely on your own DD and the DD that has been provided here and vetted by the many people here.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Chart- try this link- then go down to DONOR LOOK UP. Then type any name or company.

http://www.fecinfo.com/
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
for someone like rufus to raise this money

He has connections worldwide.

Coorporate goals of conversion help rufus get funds


Trilateral think clearly.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
http://www.trilateral.org/ being thrown around.

When the Trilateral Commission was first launched, the plan was for an equal number of members from each of the three regions. The numbers soon began to grow, and ceilings were imposed about 1980. These ceilings have been raised somewhat since then as new countries came to be represented in the groups. The European group, which includes members from Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Cyprus, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom, now has a ceiling of 160 members. The ceiling for the North American group is 120, including 20 Canadian members, 13 Mexican members and 87 U.S. members. In 2000, the Japanese group of 85 members expanded to become a Pacific Asian group of 96 members, and includes 57 members from Japan, 15 members from Korea, 8 from Australia and New Zealand, 16 from the original five ASEAN countries (Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand). The new Pacific Asian group also includes participants from the People's Republic of China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

To help preserve the Commission’s unofficial character, members who take up positions in their national administration give up Trilateral Commission membership. New members are chosen on a national basis. The procedures used for rotation off and for invitation of new members vary from national group to national group. Three Chairmen (one from each region), Deputy Chairmen, and Directors constitute the leadership of the Trilateral Commission, along with an Executive Committee including 36 other members. The full membership list is available by e-mail or by contacting any of the regional offices.

http://www.trilateral.org/memb.htm

~BB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
First question only shows that they got together on Paltalk and decided to make statements through questions instead of asking real questions.

OK. Enough. Rely on your own DD and the DD that has been provided here and vetted by the many people here.

GLTA
Wally

but.............
If all this is true it might be a good idea so something doesn't leak out?...

good or bad....

-just thoughts guys...
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
5 billion dollars to fundraise a lot of money, I want to see proof Rufus funded 5billion for the republican party, we'd definitely would have heard of that on the news
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Powers behind scenes. Trilateral. Connection

his motives are for all people in gen. not him

at home and global level
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
~5 billion in help for the republican and the clean up of 911..
~Similar to an IPO.
~It can't be a scam at this level example...
look at 8k filings and the 15 a share...the SEC makes them proove that this is real...they question things...and there is no way that you can "fool" the SEC.
~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion the 90 ticker starts when the 10k and reset are completed.
~his company has done all the DD the UN is involved
~Rufus has powerful connections
~Rufus's goals are to better allot of situations in the world, he wants the share holders to have a better life...and make the world better for many parts of the world.
~there are obviously other backers for rufus and he has the connections world wide.
~(keep in mind that most of these comments are from Tut's DD and opinon)
~he beleives that Rufus is attempting to build a better life in other parts of the world as well.
~trilateral is meant there are powers behind the seens. http://www.trilateral.org/memb.htm
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
5 billion dollars to fundraise a lot of money, I want to see proof Rufus funded 5billion for the republican party, we'd definitely would have heard of that on the news

You sure would not.. Think about it
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
So is he going to tell us anything besides unverifiable promises? He said that he had to get something off of his chest, and I want to hear what he can add that means anything to us the common stockholders. I am not bashing, I have been around since 0.07 cents, but I am just getting to the end of my patience. I got in for the logging deal, I bought more at 1.37, and even more at 3.02. The only problem is that I have seen the value of my shares dwindle down almost 20K in the past week. This money was meant for me to put toward the downpayment on my very first house, and I am still ahead, but every day I get more and more nervous seeing the price continue to go down. Yes I know that the first rule of investment is to not invest anything that you do not feel comfortable losing, but the only problem is that everyday, that value is doing down and down. I just wish we could get rid of all of this cloak and dagger chit, and have everyone be honest about everything. If what Tut says is going to happen happens, then good. But I don't like the idea of a unnamed mystery man telling us platitudes as we continue to lose money. Why doesn't he just tell us who he is, and come out will all of the plans? Then if there is anything wrong, let us do our DD and either prove him right or wrong. This is just getting frustrating.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
he has seen too many shareholders damaged by the naked shorting for example lthe SEC looking the other way, its time for the average shareholder to make a profit and not have groups ot there steal the money out fo their back pockets that they have earned
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
the powerful and the elite that were profiting at the expense of this company, its kinda f8kd, :-o

rufus has a personal vendetta, it goes deeper for him...

its time the average shareholder out there had a chance at making something out of their lives too
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Man..... I love you guys
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
From Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission


Trilateral Commission
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The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, founded in 1973 at the initiative of David Rockefeller, who pushed the idea of including Japan at the Bilderberg meetings he was attending but was rebuffed. Along with Zbigniew Brzezinski and a few others, including from the Brookings Institution, Council on Foreign Relations and the Ford Foundation, he convened initial meetings from which grew the Trilateral organisation. Its first executive committee meeting was held in Tokyo in October 1973. It consists of approximatively 300-350 private citizens from Europe, Pacific Asia (Asia & Oceania), and North America, and exists to promote closer political and economic cooperation between these areas.

Membership is divided into amounts apportioned to each of its three areas. Members include corporate CEOs, politicians of all major parties, distinguished academics, university presidents, labor union leaders and not-for-profits involved in overseas philanthropy. Members who gain a position in their respective country's government temporarily leave the commission.

The organization has come under much scrutiny and criticism by political activists and academics working in the social and political sciences. The Trilateral Commission has found its way into a number of conspiracy theories, especially relating to the Round table groups.

The North American continent is represented by 107 members (15 Canadians, 7 Mexicans and 85 US citizens). The European group has reached its limit of 150 members, including citizens from Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and United Kingdom.

At first, Asia and Oceania were represented only by Japan. However, in 2000, the Japanese group of 85 members expanded itself, becoming the Pacific Asia group, composed of 117 members: 75 Japanese, 11 South Koreans, 7 Australian and New Zealand citizens, and 15 members from the ASEAN nations (Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore and Thailand). The Pacific Asia group also includes 9 members from China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Contents [hide]
1 Membership
2 See also
3 Further reading
4 External links



[edit]
Membership
The three current chairmen are:

Tom Foley, North America (Democratic Congressman, former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives and ambassador to Japan)
Peter Sutherland, Europe (Irish businessman and former politician associated with the Fine Gael party; former Attorney General of Ireland and European Commissioner in the first Delors Commission; former director general of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, the precursor to the World Trade Organization)
Yotaro Kobayashi, Pacific Asia (chairman of the Fuji Xerox company)
Some other people who are or have been members:

Georges Berthoin (International Chairman of the European Movement from 1978-1981)
Ritt Bjerregaard (Danish Social Democrat MP, member of various cabinets; European Commissioner for Environment, Nuclear Safety and Civil Protection in the Santer Commission from 1995 to 1999)
John H. Bryan (former CEO of Sara Lee bakeries, affiliated with the World Economic Forum and part of the Board for Sara Lee, Goldman Sachs, General Motors, British Petroleum and Bank One)
Zbigniew Brzezinski (US National Security Advisor to U.S. President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981)
James E. Burke (CEA of Johnson & Johnson from 1976 to 1989)
George H.W. Bush (former President of the United States)
Frank Carlucci (President of Carlyle Group, US Secretary of Defense from 1987 to 1989)
Jimmy Carter (former President of the U.S.)
Catherine Ann Bertini (former United Nations Under Secretary General in Management, former Director of World Food Program)
Gerhard Casper (constitutional scholar, faculty member at Stanford University; successor trustee of Yale University and part of the Board of Trustees of the Central European University in Hungary)
Dick Cheney (current vice-president of the US)
Bill Clinton (former President of the U.S.)
William Cohen (Republican Congressman and Senator, U.S. secretary of Defense under President Clinton)
Tim Collins (CEO of Ripplewood Holdings LLC investment company; also part of the Yale Divinity School and Yale School of Management board of advisors and US-Japan non-profit organizations)
Bill Emmott (former editor of The Economist magazine)
Dianne Feinstein (Democratic US Senator, former mayor of San Francisco, member of the Council on Foreign Relations; ranking member of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security)
Martin Feldstein (Professor of economics at Harvard University; president and CEO of the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER); chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers from 1982 to 1984; former director of the Council on Foreign Relations; member of the Bilderberg Group and of the World Economic Forum, etc.)
Hugh Fletcher (Chancellor of Auckland University and CEO of Fletcher Challenge)
David Gergen (political consultant and presidential advisor during the Republican administrations of Nixon, Ford and Reagan; also served as advisor to Bill Clinton)
Allan Gotlieb (Canadian ambassador to Washington from 1981 to 1989, chairman of the Canada Council from 1989 to 1994)
Bill Graham (former Canadian Minister of National Defence and Minister of Foreign Affairs under Paul Martin; since 2006, interim parliamentary leader of the Liberal Party)
Hank Greenberg (former chairman and CEO of American International Group (AIG), the world's largest insurance and financial services corporation)
Mugur Isarescu (Governor of the National Bank of Romania since 1990 and prime minister from December 1999 to November 2000; he worked for the Minister of Foreign Affairs then for the Romanian Embassy in the US after the 1989 Romanian revolution)
Henry Kissinger (US diplomat, National Security Advisor and Secretary of State in the Nixon administration and Ford administration; practiced Realpolitik and main actor of the US foreign policy from 1969 to 1977)
Otto Graf Lambsdorff (Chairman of the German Free Democratic Party from 1993 to 1998; Economic Minister for West Germany from 1977 to 1984)
Liam Lawlor (Irish politician who resigned from the Fianna Fáil party; died in a car-crash in Moscow in 2005)
Pierre Lellouche (French MP of the conservative Union for a Popular Movement party led by Nicolas Sarkozy)
Jorge Braga de Macedo
Kiichi Miyazawa (Japanese Prime minister in 1991-1993; Minister of Foreign Affairs from 1974 to 1976, Chief Cabinet Secretary from 1984 to 1986, Minister of Finance in 1987 and again from 1999 to 2002)
Akio Morita (co-founder of Sony Corporation; vice-chairman of the Keindanren (Japan Federation of Economic Organizations) and member of the Japan-U.S. Economic Relations Group)
Andrzej Olechowski (Polish director of Euronet, USA; on the supervisory boards of Citibank Handlowy and Europejski Fundusz Hipoteczny; president of the Central European Forum; deputy governor of the National Bank of Poland from 1989 to 1991; minister of Foreign Economic Relations from 1991 to 1992; minister of Finance in 1992 and of Foreign Affairs from 1993 to 1995; economic advisor to president Lech Wałęsa from 1992 to 1993 and in 1995, etc.)
Carl Palme
Lucas Papademos (European Central Bank Vice-president)
Lee Raymond (ExxonMobil (Former CEO and Chairman, vice chairman of the Board of Trustees of the American Enterprise Institute, director of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., director and member of the Executive Committee and Policy Committee of the American Petroleum Institute)
Mary Robinson (elected president of Ireland from 1990 to 1997 as a candidate for the Labour party; United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights from 1997 to 2002)
David Rockefeller (Chairman of the Chase Manhattan Bank board from 1969 to 1981 and its CEO from 1969 to 1980; vice-director of the Council on Foreign Relations from 1949 to 1985, vice-president from 1950 to 1970 and chairman from 1970 to 1985, now honorary Chairman; a life member of the Bilderberg Group)
Gerard C. Smith (first U.S. Chairman of the Commission; chief U.S. delegate to the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks of 1969)
Jessica Stern (former NSC staff member, author, and lecturer at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government)
George Vasiliou (President of the Republic of Cyprus from 1988 to 1993, founder and leader of the Cypriot United Democrats party)
Francisco Pinto Balsemão
Maldonado Gonelha
Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa (Leader of the Social Democratic Party (Portugal) from 1996 to 1999.
Miguel Sousa Soares (Management Consultant, EMPORDEF,MDN, Portugal) from 2005.
Paul Volcker (Chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve from 1979 to 1987, main actor of the transition from Keynes-based policy to monetarist-based policy)
Paul Wolfowitz (President of the World Bank and a prominent member of the neo-conservatives in Washington)
Isamu Yama****a
Lorenzo Zambrano (Mexican chairman and CEO of CEMEX since 1985, the third largest cement company of the world; member of the board of IBM, Citiroup, etc.)
Robert Zoellick (Deputy Secretary of State, formerly the U.S. Trade Representative.)
[edit]
See also
Council on Foreign Relations
Bilderberg Group
Bohemian Grove
Brookings Institution
Rand Corporation
World Economic Forum
Geopolitics
David Rockefeller
[edit]
Further reading
Memoirs by David Rockefeller, New York: Random House, 2002. Contains a brief history of the Commission's founding, composition of members and overall influence.
Trilateralism: The Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management by Holly Sklar, South End Press (November 1, 1980), 616 pages, ISBN 0-89608-103-6
Trilaterals Over Washington, Vol. I and II by Antony C. Sutton and Patrick M. Wood, The August Corporation (1979/81), ISBN 0-933482-01-9
American Hegemony and the Trilateral Commission (Cambridge Studies in International Relations) (collective), Cambridge University Press (November 7, 1991), 318 pages, ISBN 0-521-42433-X
The Rockefeller triangle: A country editor's documented report on the Trilateral Commission plan for world government by Bill Wilkerson, Idalou Beacon (1980), 44 pages, ASIN B0006E2ZE4
Who's who of the elite: members of the Bilderbergs, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and Skull & Bones Society by Robert Gaylon Ross. - 2nd revision. - San Marcos, Tex : RIE, 2000, ISBN 0-9649888-0-1
Tous pouvoirs confondus : État, capital et médias à l'ère de la mondialisation by Geoffrey Geuens, EPO (15 March 2003), 470 pages, ISBN 2-87262-193-8
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
the shareholders have one helluva opportunity here, he hates to see them lose it.
its rare that the investors can get in on the ground floor.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
re: the group Tut is with.

he has a number of groups he is associated with.
they arent involved w cshd in any kind of a consulting relationship
theyve just done a lot of DD
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ha! yeah well like who here HASN'T? (DD)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
and....

Why is it that "his group" knows everything and we don't?!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Nothing said yet about "getting it off his chest" yet huh???
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Wally can you IM Simon and ask how he knows Rufus
and why he feels so confident in all these statements.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
call your congressmen.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Call me a skeptic but I will put up the DD we have done here against anything that TUT and his group has done.

I stated this before: Do Not put your trust and your money in ANY one person.

Don't get me wrong TUT sounds like a nice guy but people gave him much more respect and standing than he deserved.

GLTA
Wally

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
~5 billion in help for the republican and the clean up of 911..
~Similar to an IPO.
~It can't be a scam at this level example...
look at 8k filings and the 15 a share...the SEC makes them proove that this is real...they question things...and there is no way that you can "fool" the SEC.
~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion the 90 ticker starts when the 10k and reset are completed.
~his company has done all the DD the UN is involved
~Rufus has powerful connections
~Rufus's goals are to better allot of situations in the world, he wants the share holders to have a better life...and make the world better for many parts of the world.
~there are obviously other backers for rufus and he has the connections world wide.
~(keep in mind that most of these comments are from Tut's DD and opinon)
~he beleives that Rufus is attempting to build a better life in other parts of the world as well.
~trilateral is meant there are powers behind the seens. http://www.trilateral.org/memb.htm
~Tut feel that this is not just a short squeeze, but he thinks that Rufus sees the average shareholder should be able to get the benefits for once.
~Tut has also been involved/looking into the NS
~This has become personal for him and he feels that this is a great opportunity for them, a once in a life time chance, and the shorts have no right to take this chance away from the shareholders.
~he is associated with a number of "groups" but will not elaborate.
~He is suggesting that any shorters that they should begin covering.
~He wants all shareholders to call there congressman and keep calling

****I have decided that TUT is Glassman...LOL [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Wally can you IM Simon and ask how he knows Rufus
and why he feels so confident in all these statements.

Sent
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
LOL 10
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Cant be a scam at this level. Rufus and ben won't have any shares freed up untill 90 days after the merger.
sept. 13th. merger complete.

Sept or Oct?
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Nothing said yet about "getting it off his chest" yet huh???

Exactly... Until he says something that is a bombshell, Tut will have no more credance in my book. He will just be a guy who has made some good, but very vague, predictions.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Can someone ask him "If he's not and insider then why not give us your name?"

-why "Tut" of all things too.

What else board can will try to pump out of this guy? Something maybe useful ~.... "?"
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Nothing said yet about "getting it off his chest" yet huh???

Exactly... Until he says something that is a bombshell, Tut will have no more credance in my book. He will just be a guy who has made some good, but very vague, predictions.
Also, until he gives a real name, he could just be spinning a very nice tale that anyone of us could do, given a little time and effort.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
TUT is talking about dividends. OK no Dividends have been announced. He is playing off a lot of what is circulating around the boards.

Call me Mr. Skeptic but I am.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
To certain extent...I agree with you Wally, It seems that this TUT is another shareholder just like us...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by frank021474:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Cant be a scam at this level. Rufus and ben won't have any shares freed up untill 90 days after the merger.
sept. 13th. merger complete.

Sept or Oct?
Sept, then 90 days out from there...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Wally can you IM Simon and ask how he knows Rufus
and why he feels so confident in all these statements.

Sent
Thanks Wally
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Or if he could provide what the working relationship is between him and CSHD, that would almost be better than having a name. And why does he know so much, and why does he have the ear of Rufus and Co.??
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
To certain extent...I agree with you Wally, It seems that this TUT is another shareholder just like us...

Alright you broke me 10!

-I'm Tut! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Okay. Can anyone tell me how YOU as an individual will profit by forcing a short squeeze by requesting your Certs? By the time you are able to sell your shares the Squeeze is long over. You can't sell when the PPS goes up because you don't have access to your shares.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Nice piece of work there 10of13 [Smile]

BB's kicking butt too!!!

The ROCK'N Woman of Allstocks!!
salute [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Did you see my post above? If you are TUT then you are also glassman... [Eek!] [Big Grin]
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
To certain extent...I agree with you Wally, It seems that this TUT is another shareholder just like us...

Alright you broke me 10!

-I'm Tut! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Could this be TUT? Someone said he sounded Canadian?


Bill Graham (former Canadian Minister of National Defence and Minister of Foreign Affairs under Paul Martin; since 2006, interim parliamentary leader of the Liberal Party)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Graham#External_links
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
The ROCK'N Woman of Allstocks!!

When does the calendar come out? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Or if he could provide what the working relationship is between him and CSHD, that would almost be better than having a name. And why does he know so much, and why does he have the ear of Rufus and Co.??

He has bascially answered this when he stated that he came upon this by accident and that he is not an insider and that what he is posting is from the DD done by him and his GROUP.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Okay. Can anyone tell me how YOU as an individual will profit by forcing a short squeeze by requesting your Certs? By the time you are able to sell your shares the Squeeze is long over. You can't sell when the PPS goes up because you don't have access to your shares.

GLTA
Wally

[10of13 wrote]
~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion
---------------------------------------------

Does this not connect two dots?!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
BB? are you going to listen to the rest of this?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
The ROCK'N Woman of Allstocks!!

When does the calendar come out? [Big Grin]
Nice! ya one "up'd" it!! ha ~ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Okay. Can anyone tell me how YOU as an individual will profit by forcing a short squeeze by requesting your Certs? By the time you are able to sell your shares the Squeeze is long over. You can't sell when the PPS goes up because you don't have access to your shares.

GLTA
Wally

[10of13 wrote]
~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion
---------------------------------------------

Does this not connect two dots?!!!!

I was under the impression that the BOD shares were restricted for 2 Years, unless my memory is very faulty. Like I said, if anything I believe on the DD we have done as a GROUP.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
sounds late 50's Canadian
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Okay. Can anyone tell me how YOU as an individual will profit by forcing a short squeeze by requesting your Certs? By the time you are able to sell your shares the Squeeze is long over. You can't sell when the PPS goes up because you don't have access to your shares.

GLTA
Wally

[10of13 wrote]
~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion
---------------------------------------------

Does this not connect two dots?!!!!

I was under the impression that the BOD shares were restricted for 2 Years, unless my memory is very faulty. Like I said, if anything I believe on the DD we have done as a GROUP.

GLTA
Wally

omg....
Now that you mention it Wally I think I remember that too ~

So is that a mistake, or do we "assume" we know to what he was talking about, -could be something different too. (?)
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Okay. Can anyone tell me how YOU as an individual will profit by forcing a short squeeze by requesting your Certs? By the time you are able to sell your shares the Squeeze is long over. You can't sell when the PPS goes up because you don't have access to your shares.

GLTA
Wally

[10of13 wrote]
~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion
---------------------------------------------

Does this not connect two dots?!!!!

THe one thing that has kept me in this stock is the fact that Rufus and Co really don't stand to gain until after everything has settled.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
rufus is connected with the powerful people cuz they are all trying to achieve "to help create a better worldwide situation economically, financially, better place to live"
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
sounds late 50's Canadian

Maybe but could also be 2nd or 3rd Generation Pakistani or Indian.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
rufus is connected with the powerful people cuz they are all trying to achieve "to help create a better worldwide situation economically, financially, better place to live"

OK Babe, Are you going to give us your take on this once it's over? I would love to hear your thoughts because of your DD.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
rufus is connected with the powerful people cuz they are all trying to achieve "to help create a better worldwide situation economically, financially, better place to live"

and this, what DD did his group do to figure this out?... "How does he know this?!"

How CAN he know it?... Think about it...

(btw, thx BB!!)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
--is it just me or is anyone else feeling a selloff tomorrow? (gulp!)
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
If TUT were here on Allstocks I know for a certainty the one question would be: LINKS PLEASE?

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
The ROCK'N Woman of Allstocks!!

When does the calendar come out? [Big Grin]
BB's setting up all the photographers and appointments with Sherri, Jenna, Jo and all...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i havent formed an opinion yet, but mike alexander is in the paltalk room and tut is on the phone, thats a lot of people walkin the line to the chaingang if theyre talkin chit
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
why didn't anyone ask if he(tut) was involved with the trilateral commission...

some pretty damn powerful individuals are a part of that...
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Could this be TUT? Someone said he sounded Canadian?


Bill Graham (former Canadian Minister of National Defence and Minister of Foreign Affairs under Paul Martin; since 2006, interim parliamentary leader of the Liberal Party)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Graham#External_links

I doupt someone as much in the public eye as this gentleman would put his voice online in an "anonymous" manner. Someone is going to recognise it.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
If TUT were here on Allstocks I know for a certainty the one question would be: LINKS PLEASE?

GLTA
Wally

omg I LMAO!!

wasn't expecting that one! ha ~~
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
rufus is connected with the powerful people cuz they are all trying to achieve "to help create a better worldwide situation economically, financially, better place to live"

and this, what DD did his group do to figure this out?... "How does he know this?!"

How CAN he know it?... Think about it...

(btw, thx BB!!)

Thats A good question. He seems to know a little something that makes me wonder.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
--is it just me or is anyone else feeling a selloff tomorrow? (gulp!)

Wait. Rufus has until Market open to put out a PR to help the PPS.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
Tut says hes an investor, with his groups

one would assume he's done his own DD. trust him as much as u trust anyone else on these boards who DD.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I'm with ya Chart. I'm really losing faith here. Last week was supposed to be the big week, and nothing. This stock has basically held up to more pressure than I've ever seen, but I think we've reached the limit of people's patience and we will likely see a huge drop without news. Why would you go on-line, make a lot of promises, and then...well, nothing. Makes you wonder...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
why didn't anyone ask if he(tut) was involved with the trilateral commission...

some pretty damn powerful individuals are a part of that...

I seen like EVERYBODY on that list..
Fron Clinton to the Rockerfeller's!

--what's up with that?...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
just asked why all the georgia state info was in the real estate section...

Tut asked for a "hold please"
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i havent formed an opinion yet, but mike alexander is in the paltalk room and tut is on the phone, thats a lot of people walkin the line to the chaingang if theyre talkin chit

No. I'm not saying this is a scam or that TUT is lying. I'm just saying he really doesn't knoe anymore than we do. That's all.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
And he keeps saying this much bigger picture.

Now he says in his past post that he has talked to rufus several times , sometimes in one day, So maybe rufus has told him a few things we don't know.


He probably got a call from Rufus right now. LOL
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
rufus is also coming on the phone? wants to talk NOW.
ooooo its a 3-way. [Smile]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Holy scit... Rufus Tut 3 way
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
rurus says he doesnt know who tut is..
hes on the air.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
This is the best 3 way ever...this should be a movie!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
This is the best 3 way ever...this should be a movie!

I can think of better! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Sabra Dabbs
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Mike on Paltalk
And Rufus and Sabra and Tut on Subpenny!!!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
sabra dabbs is on the phone too, Exec VP... on the same line as rufus
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
w

I seen like EVERYBODY on that list..
Fron Clinton to the Rockerfeller's!

--what's up with that?...

Which is why I asked that question...

Is it a mutual back patting organization or do they have substance...

To be perfectly honest...it seems very cloak and dagger in itself...go on the website and see what it is they do...all I can surmize is the fact that they have "meetings"...about what? I'm as curious as the next person...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Sabre is in the house.. What are they having a meeting on Sun. night.????
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
And he keeps saying this much bigger picture.

Now he says in his past post that he has talked to rufus several times , sometimes in one day, So maybe rufus has told him a few things we don't know.


He probably got a call from Rufus right now. LOL

HA! Looks like he WAS on the phone with Rufus! LOL ~~
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
RUFUS Sandra DABBS and TUT are now on
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I am glad he did drop off
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
w

I seen like EVERYBODY on that list..
Fron Clinton to the Rockerfeller's!

--what's up with that?...

Which is why I asked that question...

Is it a mutual back patting organization or do they have substance...

To be perfectly honest...it seems very cloak and dagger in itself...go on the website and see what it is they do...all I can surmize is the fact that they have "meetings"...about what? I'm as curious as the next person...

I hear ya, but people like that have VERY BUSY lives, doesn't make much sense if it's a "feel good" club. Must be more to it....

What does the group as a whole "BELIEVE" in?...

That's what we need to DD
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
and mike alexander is in the chat
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Man Simon is exited
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
sabra is the executive vp of global investments

a GLOBAL division of the company she says
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow, what's it a FULL MOON? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Call me skeptical but Rufus calling in with Sabre on the phone at this time of night. No this wasn't staged. No way.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
wow, what's it a FULL MOON? [Big Grin]

haha...look out your window dummy...i think it actually is, lol...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
A little awkward.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
Q tut couldnt answer..

what is the revelance of 'nephew of the richest man of the world in cshd"

were looking at a deal w him, a joint venture.. its gonna be a very large one.. funding of a vehicle in dubai

the nephew is representing the family. the deal is w his uncle.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
What are they saying?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
wow, what's it a FULL MOON? [Big Grin]

haha...look out your window dummy...i think it actually is, lol...
Tell me about it, shining off the water here! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Call me skeptical but Rufus calling in with Sabre on the phone at this time of night. No this wasn't staged. No way.

GLTA
Wally

Wally you think this was set up???
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
Q tut couldnt answer..

what is the revelance of 'nephew of the richest man of the world in cshd"

were looking at a deal w him, a joint venture.. its gonna be a very large one.. funding of a vehicle in dubai

the nephew is representing the family. the deal is w his uncle.

Again, what DD produced that?!

But he's not an insider?!!
wth is going on?...

Who IS this guy?!!
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
So are we alll in agreement that Tut is full of chit, and was just a good guesser? Because that is the feeling I am getting.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
9.4 billion
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
9.4 in current assets
contracts
+ addl bonds

were still processing them and working against the bank platforms.

(vauge hes cutting out)

working with a specific MM, still negotiating what our next step is and what type of securities we need to cooperate with...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
this came from rufus answering ...i quoted rufus

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
Q tut couldnt answer..

what is the revelance of 'nephew of the richest man of the world in cshd"

were looking at a deal w him, a joint venture.. its gonna be a very large one.. funding of a vehicle in dubai

the nephew is representing the family. the deal is w his uncle.

Again, what DD produced that?!

But he's not an insider?!!
wth is going on?...

Who IS this guy?!!


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
So are we alll in agreement that Tut is full of chit, and was just a good guesser? Because that is the feeling I am getting.

darn it..

No I think there is something to this pinhead, damn, just can't get a "read" on the guy...

His ear heard or hears things somehow it seems...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
nasdaq is the companys goal. are we trying to achieve the companys goal and move to the nasdaq? yes we are.

trying to retain the 50mil market cap...
that is what were negotiating w the MM now.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
this came from rufus answering ...i quoted rufus

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
Q tut couldnt answer..

what is the revelance of 'nephew of the richest man of the world in cshd"

were looking at a deal w him, a joint venture.. its gonna be a very large one.. funding of a vehicle in dubai

the nephew is representing the family. the deal is w his uncle.

Again, what DD produced that?!

But he's not an insider?!!
wth is going on?...

Who IS this guy?!!


That helps ~
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
lol
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
sabra has a Q for Tut.

other than being a stockholder w cshd... what is ur experience, background is?

20+ yrs background w the financial industry. helped fun public companies. brought them to public stage. been involved in helping comps set up their PR campaigns worldwide.


she says... maybe u shoud come apply for a job w us.

he says.. main expertise is helping fund public companies.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Is anyone hearing anything that's gonna keep the bottom from falling out of this stock tomorrow?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Is anyone hearing anything that's gonna keep the bottom from falling out of this stock tomorrow?

other than manipulation...why would it fall out anyway?

that would be like paying ten bucks to go see a movie then walking out with 15min left, lol...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I am not...
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Is anyone hearing anything that's gonna keep the bottom from falling out of this stock tomorrow?


 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
reinforces my opinion that Tut is an investor protecting his and his group's position.

...hes trying to get rufus to reitierate that this is a good investment not a daytrade.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Is anyone hearing anything that's gonna keep the bottom from falling out of this stock tomorrow?

LOL ~~

It'll be cool Vin.
It'll pan out, I wouldn't say that but when that 10k gets filed there WILL be another run IMO.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
lota waatle shares coming into the market rite now. 19 mil of waatle coming into the market.
everybody in the stock wants to at least try to break even and then sit on the rest of the shares as free shares.
he says to them go ahead. sell them at 2 bux
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Call me skeptical but Rufus calling in with Sabre on the phone at this time of night. No this wasn't staged. No way.

GLTA
Wally

Wally you think this was set up???
Well put it this way. SubPenny is usually off the air at 10PM EST.

I don't know.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Here's more info on trilateral tell a little more about it:

http://www.trilateral.org/about.htm
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
oh god this is too f-in much
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
mike alexander is coming onto the line. doesnt answer. sabra says he an imposter.
sabra & rufus say theres also an imposter from deutche bank calling recently.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
Q tut couldnt answer..

what is the revelance of 'nephew of the richest man of the world in cshd"

were looking at a deal w him, a joint venture.. its gonna be a very large one.. funding of a vehicle in dubai

the nephew is representing the family. the deal is w his uncle.

Again, what DD produced that?!

But he's not an insider?!!
wth is going on?...

Who IS this guy?!!

Rufus stated this
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
go bk to the press release andn see when waatle had to have their shares int eh market
theyre in the market now

new ADP list is in on monday

last thing theyre waiting for

corrected ADP list
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Rufus Just said that the LAST thing they are waiting on is the ADP List and it was suposed to come in on Friday and now they are expecting it on Monday!!!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
dont panic if ur not on list that they post.

theyll give u someone to talk to. ull just give em ur info..
sabra interjects that ADP isnt always on time


main thing is all the waatle shares are on the market.


and simon just killed all the calls accidentally.
duh.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Someone needs to ask about the documents from the government that they were supposed to recieve on Thursday by 6:00 pm, and what was up with them. What documents where they exactly, and if they can't tell that, then what kind of docs where they? That would make me feel a lot better.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ADP was supposed to be there by friday, theyre late. may be those docs. its what they implied.

and fyi, either they just gave sabra a walk to ladies prison or ...

now on the line is Tut, Mike Alexander, Rufus and Sabra
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Someone needs to ask about the documents from the government that they were supposed to recieve on Thursday by 6:00 pm, and what was up with them. What documents where they exactly, and if they can't tell that, then what kind of docs where they? That would make me feel a lot better.

"Question of the night AWARD!" [Smile]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
mike and sabra appear to be a team. *awww* they put a package together re: the logs and brought it in to rufus
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
man This is too much..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
asking now about what is to happen this week.

everyone flew into GA and more parties will be there tomorrow and theyre gonna finalize, put seals on docs and go from there
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
All I know is that ADP is the one that handles my paycheck every two weeks, and I can go to their website and print off my W-2's if I want and look at my paystubs. So I highly doubt that the updated list from ADP is the so called government documents that they where waiting on...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
man This is too much..

???? thoughts?...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
well imo ADP has to go from an audited list no?

and i used to issue employees paychx thru them.. they can be incredibly late, depending on the reporting office.


rufus says market cap is in excess of 100 mil and the trigger point is 1.73
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
meeting in GA. more flying in tom. to finalize - put stamps sign. ETC.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
old market cap is 30 mil.

new is around 125 mil is on cvsu homepage
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
chart you listening??
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
man This is too much..

???? thoughts?...
HMMMMMMMM


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
man This is too much..

???? thoughts?...
HMMMMMMMM


GLTA
Wally

Your bad Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Wally are you listening to this stuff?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
chart you listening??

nope, rebooted, had a bug, but restore point took out my Pa-talk download, so I said the heck with it ~ Can get the jist of it [Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
ADP
In currencies, this is the abbreviation for the Andorran Peseta.


From what I gather it's a currency converter. Tells you how much money from another country is worth here.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Is my definiton wrong? I got it from investopedia.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally are you listening to this stuff?

Yes. And I know I'm going to take some flak for this but: Dukes of Hazzard.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Is my definiton wrong? I got it from investopedia.

way to use your head ~

But what does that have to do with Rufus and a Gov Documant that is suppose to END naked short selling on CSHD?.....
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
That's what I said Wally when I heard him....

Just the good old boys never mean' no harm...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
the 10 k vs the 10ka vs the 10q

10k will just be audited 8ks in one place

everything is on the website
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Chart check PM
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally are you listening to this stuff?

Yes. And I know I'm going to take some flak for this but: Dukes of Hazzard.

GLTA
Wally

-give me a little more.........
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Hi everyone...............Weren't we told that Ben said "Everything is in" on Friday. Now we are waiting for one more thing. A little frustrating. One more thing. I don't think Tut knows as much as some of you regulars on this site. I think he is a stockholder and is a litle lucky with some guesses. He also contributed to our hopes and wishes by saying things that we wanted to hear. I don't mean to be a doubter....I just don't think he knows chit.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LMAO Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
the 10k is the audited doc of fronthaul as a discontinued operation
company will set aside moeny to cover it
section covering it.. each note, time frame and current book value

ugh i lost the train of discussion. :-\
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Hi everyone...............Weren't we told that Ben said "Everything is in" on Friday. Now we are waiting for one more thing. A little frustrating. One more thing. I don't think Tut knows as much as some of you regulars on this site. I think he is a stockholder and is a litle lucky with some guesses. He also contributed to our hopes and wishes by saying things that we wanted to hear. I don't mean to be a doubter....I just don't think he knows chit.

Doc,
Tut has been asked by Sabra Dabbs to send in his REsume'
I think TUT knows his stuff!
LOL
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Chart - I'm trying so hard to contribute DD & I'm laughing here because I feel like in another dimension sometimes. I know I'm making an Asprin out of myself but I'm going' to keep on pluugin' away because the one time that I think it's useless it's going to be worth gold!!

I'm laughing so hard at myself- I'm crying. I'm going to wake up my family!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Hi everyone...............Weren't we told that Ben said "Everything is in" on Friday. Now we are waiting for one more thing. A little frustrating. One more thing. I don't think Tut knows as much as some of you regulars on this site. I think he is a stockholder and is a litle lucky with some guesses. He also contributed to our hopes and wishes by saying things that we wanted to hear. I don't mean to be a doubter....I just don't think he knows chit.

Doc are you listening to subpenny
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
rufus has a call beepin in and i have carpal tunnel

doc i think theyre downplaying tut, sounded caught off guard when they heard his voice as "tut"
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LMAO Wally

I try.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Hi Doc.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
For some reason, I can't hear anymore. I am a paid subscriber...but I can't hear now. I am trying to contact their trouble line. I am upset about not hearing.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
proxy names will be posted on website. had to be holding on the 29th?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Chart - I'm trying so hard to contribute DD & I'm laughing here because I feel like in another dimension sometimes. I know I'm making an Asprin out of myself but I'm going' to keep on pluugin' away because the one time that I think it's useless it's going to be worth gold!!

I'm laughing so hard at myself- I'm crying. I'm going to wake up my family!

ha ha ~~...

Yeah I remember my first beer too! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
xx LOL
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Hi everyone...............Weren't we told that Ben said "Everything is in" on Friday. Now we are waiting for one more thing. A little frustrating. One more thing. I don't think Tut knows as much as some of you regulars on this site. I think he is a stockholder and is a litle lucky with some guesses. He also contributed to our hopes and wishes by saying things that we wanted to hear. I don't mean to be a doubter....I just don't think he knows chit.

Doc,
Tut has been asked by Sabra Dabbs to send in his REsume'
I think TUT knows his stuff!
LOL

They were laughing but he should get a job for putting this together tonight.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
ADP has a division called ICS - Investor Communication Services. According to their site they "distribute quarterly reports, interim reports, news reports, corporate announcements, prospectuses, brokerage statements, proxies, dividend checks and a variety of other shareholder communications. Our clients include more than 800 banks and brokerage firms, as well as over 400 mutual fund families and we service over 14,000 public corporations."

Is this who they're referring to?
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I agree bb
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Hi Jenna ........... I hope you had a nice day.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
with what? you said the opposite of me?

i said theyre downplaying him, as in he has cred.

quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
I agree bb


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Chart - I'm trying so hard to contribute DD & I'm laughing here because I feel like in another dimension sometimes. I know I'm making an Asprin out of myself but I'm going' to keep on pluugin' away because the one time that I think it's useless it's going to be worth gold!!

I'm laughing so hard at myself- I'm crying. I'm going to wake up my family!

ha ha ~~...

Yeah I remember my first beer too! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
xx LOL

I remember My first beer too. But I can't remember if it was tonight, yesterday or the day before, heck it could be tommorrow already for all I know. Just Joking, okay.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I hope that now we don't have to wait all week for this ADP list to arrive.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
doc they said monday it si expected, and everyone in the company is flying in for a big meeting.

clearly half the exec staff is here, theyre all online.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
All I can say peeps is that bottomline 10K due by 10/13, that's Friday, if it's not in by Thurs. I will have to pull out of this for a while & watch from the sidelines.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Babe Wow..............Now that is good news. They're not flying in to play golf. I think this is it. I am willing to bet that Tuesday is the big day.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
doc they said monday it si expected, and everyone in the company is flying in for a big meeting.

clearly half the exec staff is here, theyre all online.

Good point BB

So what will this List "do" for them?..
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
All I can say peeps is that bottomline 10K due by 10/13, that's Friday, if it's not in by Thurs. I will have to pull out of this for a while & watch from the sidelines.

10/16 because the 15th. is on sun.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Doc I am calling for Wed.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
All I can say peeps is that bottomline 10K due by 10/13, that's Friday, if it's not in by Thurs. I will have to pull out of this for a while & watch from the sidelines.

10/16 because the 15th. is on sun.
OOOPs thanks then I amend my last statement and change it to Monday. There I go again makin' an Asprin out of myself!!!
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I won't cry if I am wrong and it's Wednesday. lol
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
one transaction 305k shares at 2.05
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Rufus thinks the 300,000 share trade the other day afterhours posting was a short covering!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ok, so some are thinking we are going to take another PPS dip and some are looking forward to this week.....

???
What is it?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I am looking forward to this week chart.

Might even add at some point.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I know you are all going to be really upset when I tell you this, because of all the wonder help I've given tonight, but I really have to go to bed. Without my presence, I hope you can find info that has been as useful as mine.

Good Night All - See ya in the Mornin'


(I was just joking about the good work I did tonight- I sucked!- thanx for putting up with me. Sweet dreams!)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Now that's what I'd LIKE to hear surfer ~

-anyone see a down side?...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I have to say this. It's only my gut talking to me but it does come from someone whose career was in retail sales for new and used cars.

I don't feel very comfortable with what I'm hearing. Too much pump. Not from Rufus, but from those around him. I'm sorry but I'm just a bit more leery now. Hey my career has spanned many different areas of the country, the South the East and the West. I am very uncomfortable but that is only my gut. Nothing else to base it on. Please I don't want anyone to BUY SELL OR HOLD based on my feeling. Thank God my success or failure does not depend upon this stock.


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Night Jen!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Recent Activity & Upcoming Events

2007 Events:
Annual Meeting of the Trilateral Commission
Brussels, Belgium, March 16-19, 2007

2006 Events:
Annual Meeting of the Trilateral Commission
Tokyo, Japan, April 21-24, 2006
North American Regional Meeting of the Trilateral Commission
Boston, Massachusetts, October 20-22, 2006
European Regional Meeting of the Trilateral Commission
Turin, Italy, October 27-29, 2006

2006 Reports:
Task Force Report #59:
Engaging with Russia The Next Phase
Authors: Roderic Lyne, Stobe Talbott and Koji Watanabe
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I have to say this. It's only my gut talking to me but it does come from someone whose career was in retail sales for new and used cars.

I don't feel very comfortable with what I'm hearing. Too much pump. Not from Rufus, but from those around him. I'm sorry but I'm just a bit more leery now. Hey my career has spanned many different areas of the country, the South the East and the West. I am very uncomfortable but that is only my gut. Nothing else to base it on. Please I don't want anyone to BUY SELL OR HOLD based on my feeling. Thank God my success or failure does not depend upon this stock.


GLTA
Wally

I feel the same way Wally.. tonite seems like a setup to me and i hope it's only like this b/c of closing the deal.. but the mentioning of Dubai reminds me of USXP.. but lets not get into that.. lol..
they need either the 10K out or some solid PR's, instead of all the theatricals... i would like to see more results instead of talks..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ADP list was requested on the 29th.

sabra says they could only order from the day forward to the day behind... (theyre giving them the runaround is the gyst)

lag...

take 3 days to process and it should be in our office for monday.

rufus posted the fist one cuz he basically didnt believe it. so he posted it on the website

they say adp's reputation is shot at this point in their opinion.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Okay Mike is drunk but so am I. But I'm not ptting a face on this company, His language even though we may use it in private is not acceptable in the format of high finance, unless of course it's in the back rooms.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
who is responsible for the berlin xchg?

laffing.

never gonna find that out.

tut says anybody has the ability to call the BEx and say hey look at this company and theyll list it.

then they trade between themselves and it affects the share price
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
I have to say this. It's only my gut talking to me but it does come from someone whose career was in retail sales for new and used cars.

I don't feel very comfortable with what I'm hearing. Too much pump. Not from Rufus, but from those around him. I'm sorry but I'm just a bit more leery now. Hey my career has spanned many different areas of the country, the South the East and the West. I am very uncomfortable but that is only my gut. Nothing else to base it on. Please I don't want anyone to BUY SELL OR HOLD based on my feeling. Thank God my success or failure does not depend upon this stock.


GLTA
Wally

I can see your point wally. Like I have said before if the 8k was not out I would not be here. At this point I feel that the end is near and something good will happen.

Michael sounded worried about the ADP list.

Alright forget were screwed.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
wally ur listening?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
wally ur listening?

Yes I am.

Wally
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
So what's the deal with this ADP list, being on it, and it being up to the 29th? I bought another 1250 shares on october 3rd, so what is that going to mean? Otherwise all my shares are previous to 9/29 but not necessarily settled by that date.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
R and R program Germans and who
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
I hope that now we don't have to wait all week for this ADP list to arrive.

what are you talking about???

I haven't been able to follow,,,,

Point me to the link, and or page, on thread ,,,Please...

Thanks..
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Please everybody I am giving contemporenous comments and it is not a recommendation to buy sell or hold. Those that know me, know that I will usually process info over time and then comment. Tonight is my gut nothing more and it could change when I get a chance to sit alone and rehash. I take no notes it's all memory. but it has worked for me over the years and I see no reason to change now.


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
imo they all get on here cuz theyre egotistical peeps wanting a laff, and they wanted to bring sabra on for a giggle.

not sure its a setup as much as a solicitation that someone said hey come on our room we already have someone giving 3rd hand info called Tut...

just another poss perspective
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Here's the rub. Rufus jst said that if there is a company buyback it would be mandatory. You would have no choice.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Was the issue with certs finally clarified, and if it was how important is it to get them, and is it too late?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
the gut does ask WTH are these people all doing here?

hi rat ur not usually up this late [Smile]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Here's the rub. Rufus jst said that if there is a company buyback it would be mandatory. You would have no choice.

GLTA
Wally

I wouldn't mind getting bought back at $15...however here is my quesiton. If that was too happen do we need to show certs, and if thats the case can we order them at that time to show proof, or is it too late?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
sabra is our friend.. sounds like she does all the work...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
does anyone know anything about trilateral corp?

*silence falls over the land*
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
almost 2 in the morn. Sun. and these guys are acting like they just woke up....
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
So whats the deal here? From what I'm getting Rufus is sayign that the shares bought after the 29th don't exist. I can't imagine me putting in $3,000 on october 3rd, and hearing that the shares dont exist so I just throught that money away in the garbage. Arent the brokers liable to make sure those shares are real?
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
I've been wondering this all along? When do these fools sleep. Do they really think this will be anymore effective than a Filet Mignon, A+ PR on boosting the pps?

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
the gut does ask WTH are these people all doing here?

hi rat ur not usually up this late [Smile]


 
Posted by lostone on :
 
this will just give the MM's another excuse to plow us into the ground again..
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
buy the crap out of it they are all good
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
he says yes the brokers are liable.

either they buy them by market discount
or the replace them
u r legally entitled to ur shares

if they are selling, buy. rufus says.

quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
So whats the deal here? From what I'm getting Rufus is sayign that the shares bought after the 29th don't exist. I can't imagine me putting in $3,000 on october 3rd, and hearing that the shares dont exist so I just throught that money away in the garbage. Arent the brokers liable to make sure those shares are real?


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
does anyone know anything about trilateral corp?

*silence falls over the land*

I'm sorry but I am not falling for it. TUT is the one who brought it up. So go DD it and that will give you something to do.

Please, I take care of my elderly Mother who is suffering from early onset dementia. I will usually find something to take her mind off her current state of mind. So for all that want to DD trilateral go ahead but I'm not. We are beyond that.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I have never heard of a buy back when a stockholder that didn't have certification lost out. When a buy back occurs, a company that holds your stock in street name (like Scotrade) would forward your money to your account from the corporation.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
this will just give the MM's another excuse to plow us into the ground again..

No we are covered.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
they say ADP is a tool of the MMs and theyve been called on it

they claim the info they provide that their info cannot be relied upon or publicly dessiminated --> but they give it out if they get calls from the public
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
they said theyll spend the last dollar of their wealth to change the market, and well see a change when this is all done
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
wallymac ............ I am afraid that if something big doesn't happen this coming week, it could get very ugly. It sounds like some of our group are getting very concerned about the reality of their claims. I intend to wait this out and keep my shares.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
this will just give the MM's another excuse to plow us into the ground again..

No we are covered.
as long as the 10K is not out, they will continue to run us down, we may get a couple run ups, but it's only a scheme for them to make more money while they can.. it doesn't seem like they're planning to compromise just yet.. since they're short already, might as well make as much as possible in the mean time, instead of being at the mercy of CSHD immediately.. plus, who knows, there may be other ways out.. buying time and making money..
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I feel comfortable that the 10k will meet the deadline. Just a hunch. Still say wed.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
are they done?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
man are they going to go until the market opens tomorrow.

Hell you can never expect a morning P.R. they are all sleeping till noon.


ITS NOT GONNA BE LATE.. IT WILL BE ON TIME

RPH
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Okay a surfer, i can't listen, but i was told at HSM that there will be a number to call to get your shares that anyone purchased after the 29th. It also became apparent tonight that certs aren't required, and we are good. Is this what you heard?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
somebody should ask if he's gonna file another extension for his extension.. lol.. j/k..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
meeting w the caracas group this week says rufus

these guys talk til allllllll hours!

g'nite all. me & my tired typin digits are off to sleep.

take me some notes pls.

~BB
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
somebody should ask if he's gonna file another extension for his extension.. lol.. j/k..

They did.. he said no
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Question, instead of these sneak attacks on subpenny by Rufus, is he going to ever PR anything that he talks about, so the majority of the investing community can know what is going on
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
OK. I finally heard what I have been looking for. Once the JV's and SUB's are funded they will be holders of at least more than 40% of the new companies. We will get a much smaller position. Now this makes sense.

GLTA
WALLY
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Oh boy! Shouldnt you folks get some sleep? [Wink]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
so now, are they done?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Oh boy! Shouldnt you folks get some sleep? [Wink]

Well I live on the West Coast so It's not that late. But darn I'd like to get some sleep to
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
I dont have any grass here in AZ, so i hope i have lots of nice green numbers too look at in the morning.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Set your price.

Turn off your computer.

Walk away.

Buy a small country.

LOL
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Nite.. if I can sleep. Wierd azz nite.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Good night everyone. Ohhhh I hope tomorrow brings us much happiness.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Rufus said "Watch Tomorrow"
Now the real question is... does tomorrow mean today Monday or tommorow Tuesday!!!
YEah Baby!!!!!
I'm so long!
I'm so gonna be rich!!!
"If your name is not on the list call imediatly" - Rufus
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
"If you're left out call us right away, we will take care of you" - Rufus
Also by the end of this TUT is totally respected by Rufi and Sabra and Mike!
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Hmmm, still talks about the list eh? I hope ill be able to call and work things out if necessary. Im frustrated being away from home right now!
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Could someone please post and/or PM me the email adress for Rufus and possibly Ben as well? Id like to at least drop them some email just in case i have any trouble contacting them from overseas.

Ive forgotten all of the email addresses [Smile]

Danke!
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Good Morning!
Any Crazy Longs Up and About?
2 hours nap and I feel Great!
Ready for today... or am I waiting for tommorow?
Oh well
Let's Go CSHD!!!
Long and stong
GOD Bless!!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Okay a surfer, i can't listen, but i was told at HSM that there will be a number to call to get your shares that anyone purchased after the 29th. It also became apparent tonight that certs aren't required, and we are good. Is this what you heard?

yes
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Good Morning!
Any Crazy Longs Up and About?
2 hours nap and I feel Great!
Ready for today... or am I waiting for tommorow?
Oh well
Let's Go CSHD!!!
Long and stong
GOD Bless!!!

Yupper, long here up and about. You better hope its today because 2 hours of sleep probably wont get you by until tomorrow. [Smile]
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Good Morning!
Any Crazy Longs Up and About?
2 hours nap and I feel Great!
Ready for today... or am I waiting for tommorow?
Oh well
Let's Go CSHD!!!
Long and stong
GOD Bless!!!

Yupper, long here up and about. You better hope its today because 2 hours of sleep probably wont get you by until tomorrow. [Smile]
You're right Chart! LOL
Last night was just to good I had to catch it all!
I was loving it!
Also I have caffine and allstocks to help me through!
"...With a little help from my friends..."
Ima
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Rufus said "Watch Tomorrow"
Now the real question is... does tomorrow mean today Monday or tommorow Tuesday!!!
YEah Baby!!!!!
I'm so long!
I'm so gonna be rich!!!
"If your name is not on the list call imediatly" - Rufus

did Rufus say what we were "watching for"???
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
IMA...how long were you on paltalk...that stuff was crazy!

quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Good Morning!
Any Crazy Longs Up and About?
2 hours nap and I feel Great!
Ready for today... or am I waiting for tommorow?
Oh well
Let's Go CSHD!!!
Long and stong
GOD Bless!!!


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Good Morning Board ~
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Its appears that the stock is halted at 2.00 on the berlin exchange. Did they cover that in the interview last night?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
so what do we think today will bring?...
Rufus hinted at a PR?...
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
who knows chart, at this point the only thing that matters is that they get the 10K out before the deadline. I would be suprised to see anything today, but ima said Rufus said we should "watch tomorrow", not sure if he meant today or Tue because he said it at 3am...
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Looks like a lot of the crazies were up last night, where was I? Anyway, WTF is going on? Looks like I mised something but no news on MSN so was there an interview or something?
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
yes stock, they had an interview last night on paltalk, TUT, Rufus, Mike and some others all joined the call. They posted some of the conversations on pages 81-87 of this thread...
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Rufus said "Watch Tomorrow"
Now the real question is... does tomorrow mean today Monday or tommorow Tuesday!!!
YEah Baby!!!!!
I'm so long!
I'm so gonna be rich!!!
"If your name is not on the list call imediatly" - Rufus

did Rufus say what we were "watching for"???
No Rich,
It was at the end of the interview and I think it was TUT that ask for some kind of expection and RUFUS said "I'll make a prediction" Then he said Watch for tommorow... and gain... not really sure if tomorrow is today or tommorow.... LOL
Ima
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
This is from the subpenny show on Sunday


~5 billion in help for the republican and the clean up of 911..
~Similar to an IPO.
~It can't be a scam at this level example...
look at 8k filings and the 15 a share...the SEC makes them proove that this is real...they question things...and there is no way that you can "fool" the SEC.
~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion the 90 ticker starts when the 10k and reset are completed.
~his company has done all the DD the UN is involved
~Rufus has powerful connections
~Rufus's goals are to better allot of situations in the world, he wants the share holders to have a better life...and make the world better for many parts of the world.
~there are obviously other backers for rufus and he has the connections world wide.
~(keep in mind that most of these comments are from Tut's DD and opinon)
~he beleives that Rufus is attempting to build a better life in other parts of the world as well.
~trilateral is meant there are powers behind the seens. http://www.trilateral.org/memb.htm
~Tut feel that this is not just a short squeeze, but he thinks that Rufus sees the average shareholder should be able to get the benefits for once.
~Tut has also been involved/looking into the NS
~This has become personal for him and he feels that this is a great opportunity for them, a once in a life time chance, and the shorts have no right to take this chance away from the shareholders.
~he is associated with a number of "groups" but will not elaborate.
~He is suggesting that any shorters that they should begin covering.
~He wants all shareholders to call there congressman and keep calling
~it doesn't matter if you have the shares in your account the brokers are responsible for those shares.
~He feels that if you place your shares up for sale as high as you can, then it will help in the short squeeze.
~In connection with the nephew of the richest man..."rufus" is connected to some very powerful people in the world...again...no comment.
~Rufus is now on.
~Tut asked if it was still Rufus's plan to do everything in one swoop, and Rufus said it has always been the company's plan to go to NASDAQ and they are still working with the MM to get that done...
~the hold up has been do to the adp list
~
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
thx ima, I really hope this soap opera ends soon!
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
yes stock, they had an interview last night on paltalk, TUT, Rufus, Mike and some others all joined the call. They posted some of the conversations on pages 81-87 of this thread...

Thanks Rich! Looks to be getting very interesting.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
who knows chart, at this point the only thing that matters is that they get the 10K out before the deadline. I would be suprised to see anything today, but ima said Rufus said we should "watch tomorrow", not sure if he meant today or Tue because he said it at 3am...

I'm sure Rufus meant today with that...

I'm going to guess a PR....?
Cause remember Edgar filings are NOT open today. So a 10k could only first be filed on Tuesday.
 
Posted by Kelroz on :
 
Anyone one think we will close above the magic Rufus *$1.73* price with no PR today?

Between the Korea crap and jitters I think the MM's could make it a looooong day with no PR.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
who knows chart, at this point the only thing that matters is that they get the 10K out before the deadline. I would be suprised to see anything today, but ima said Rufus said we should "watch tomorrow", not sure if he meant today or Tue because he said it at 3am...

I'm sure Rufus meant today with that...

I'm going to guess a PR....?
Cause remember Edgar filings are NOT open today. So a 10k could only first be filed on Tuesday.

yeah that's what I'm thinking... at least what it sounded like!
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
IMA...how long were you on paltalk...that stuff was crazy!

quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Good Morning!
Any Crazy Longs Up and About?
2 hours nap and I feel Great!
Ready for today... or am I waiting for tommorow?
Oh well
Let's Go CSHD!!!
Long and stong
GOD Bless!!!


Ha Ha 10 [Smile]
Yeah I was up till alttle after 4 and up at 6 for work
It's all good!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
IMA...how long were you on paltalk...that stuff was crazy!

quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Good Morning!
Any Crazy Longs Up and About?
2 hours nap and I feel Great!
Ready for today... or am I waiting for tommorow?
Oh well
Let's Go CSHD!!!
Long and stong
GOD Bless!!!


Ha Ha 10 [Smile]
Yeah I was up till alttle after 4 and up at 6 for work
It's all good!!!

-Who do you think you are?? Rufus?!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
So is the reason that Rufus and all are up so late...because they have so many deals going on outside of the US? [Eek!] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
So is the reason that Rufus and all are up so late...because they have so many deals going on outside of the US? [Eek!] [Big Grin]

Exactly!
I don't know if you were still around when Rufus said he had 4 meeting today and one was the carcas (sp??) group.... This dude is one busy CEO!!!
Busy makin us money!!!
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
So does anyone know how the L2's are stacking up?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
1.99 x 3


2.00 x 4
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Hi everyone, i think Rufus may not have been alluding to a PR when he said watch the market tommorrow. Maybe he means we might get some upward PPS movement, as MMs scamble to cover. Something similar to when the price went from $1 to $4 in a day and a half. Just a thought, i would be delighted to see a PR though! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
morning guys thanks for all the transcriptions. So does how does everyone take the happenings of last night. From what I read I don't know what to think if I'm more confident. My gut has to agree with Wally's gut. I'm not sure it's right something just feels off. Without some news today I don't see us doing much but going down imo hope I'm wrong.
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
I hope your wrong too Ryan. We'll find out starting in 3 minutes...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
pre-market buys at $2 ????
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It's tooo early!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Geez O' Peet! You all put in a long Sunday! Took me an hour to catch up from Sun am. Good mornin ... 1.98 x 1.99 now
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Last night was pretty crazy! But very GOOOD! I think I'll go back to bed. Later
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
making new LOD left and right. I'm watching rufus and I was watching last week when we were supposed to have a great week. Sorry guys just starting to get really irritated [Mad]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
making new LOD left and right. I'm watching rufus and I was watching last week when we were supposed to have a great week. Sorry guys just starting to get really irritated [Mad]

It's all good, we'll have our day of revenge! GLTY
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
this is just stupid, vol only at 200K and we drop .17, that is pure manipulation at its best... I hope when all is said and done the MMs responsible burn bad...
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Agree !

quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
this is just stupid, vol only at 200K and we drop .17, that is pure manipulation at its best... I hope when all is said and done the MMs responsible burn bad...


 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Agree !

quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
this is just stupid, vol only at 200K and we drop .17, that is pure manipulation at its best... I hope when all is said and done the MMs responsible burn bad...


and if you look at the 150K traded since my last post you would see almost all buys at the ask, and how much do we move up?? .01, if you can't see this is manipulation now, you need to get your head examined...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
oh it's rediculous. To me NITE seems to be the one controllin it all too.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
looks like lots of buying pressure, maybe we can push this hog green again!
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Rufus said "Watch Tomorrow"
Now the real question is... does tomorrow mean today Monday or tommorow Tuesday!!!
YEah Baby!!!!!
I'm so long!
I'm so gonna be rich!!!
"If your name is not on the list call imediatly" - Rufus

Good morning all...sounds like I missed some interesting fun last night. Question: If your name is not on the list...call who?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
oh it's rediculous. To me NITE seems to be the one controllin it all too.

Of course he is. Most likely he is the one who has twice the number of outstanding shares short in this security so he has great reason to be all over this one. HA! Can't stop a train NITE! Can't stop a train. Chug-a, Chug-a, Chug-a... Whooo whooo!!!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
spoke too soon, well I have writen many letters to the SEC, I think I'll write another today so they can see just how bad it is in CSHD...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
How is the cult celebrating Columbus day today? Are you exploring new territories, like potential bankruptcy? Hahaha, j/k.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Yea How does everyonre feel about what they heard last night.


I am tired IMA must be nice to be young.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
How is the cult celebrating Columbus day today? Are you exploring new territories, like potential bankruptcy? Hahaha, j/k.

Just like every day Repo, koolaide and caviar dreams. [Wink]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Rufus said "Watch Tomorrow"
Now the real question is... does tomorrow mean today Monday or tommorow Tuesday!!!
YEah Baby!!!!!
I'm so long!
I'm so gonna be rich!!!
"If your name is not on the list call imediatly" - Rufus

Good morning all...sounds like I missed some interesting fun last night. Question: If your name is not on the list...call who?
Yeah I missed it too... IMA and Jenna both PMed me this weekend but I am not worthy of the ability to PM. The powers that be stripped me of my powers after I used my last get outta jail card.

I could not find out how to get in the invite only Paltalk room. [Frown]

HA HA!! WDS! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
How is the cult celebrating Columbus day today? Are you exploring new territories, like potential bankruptcy? Hahaha, j/k.

we have had our daily fix of koolaid and we're getting ready to start our daily chanting
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
How is the cult celebrating Columbus day today? Are you exploring new territories, like potential bankruptcy? Hahaha, j/k.

Woo hoo!!! Picked up another 5k at low of day. Come on Repo, short me some more!!!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
NITE really trying to keep this thing from breaking out...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
How is the cult celebrating Columbus day today? Are you exploring new territories, like potential bankruptcy? Hahaha, j/k.

we have had our daily fix of koolaid and we're getting ready to start our daily chanting
[Big Grin]

I though brainwashing was before chanting on Monday's? Oh wait I forgot to look at the holiday schedule! Thats right this is the day of the "Round world believer!", we chant first. Thanx.

[Big Grin] TB
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
this is a joke, all that pressure to move up and they keep a lid on it. The smallest sell and we drop .05, my letter to the SEC is getting better by the minute
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
boy...the L2 is really flying today...hard to keep track... [Frown]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
1.83 support
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well guys I gotta get going hopefully what ever rufus said to watch for today will happen hopefully it's good.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
Rufus said wattle shareholders recieved their shares and most would probably be selling some to get initial investment back since they have been holding for so long, that to me explains most of the selling we've been seeing. Better now, than after the reset IMO.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Rufus said "Watch Tomorrow"
Now the real question is... does tomorrow mean today Monday or tommorow Tuesday!!!
YEah Baby!!!!!
I'm so long!
I'm so gonna be rich!!!
"If your name is not on the list call imediatly" - Rufus

Good morning all...sounds like I missed some interesting fun last night. Question: If your name is not on the list...call who?
Call Ben
Also Sub Penny is replaying it right now if you missed it last night
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
The charts kinda look like Chit, walker!!!

They don't get some news out we will be lookin at 1.50 area again...

See it??
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
whats the link to sub penny radio????
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
I see it...as a matter of fact...if we weren't expecting a BUNCH of news I'd be confident in calling under a dollar before this time next week...

We are expecting news though...so I seriously doubt that'll be the case...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
The charts kinda look like Chit, walker!!!

They don't get some news out we will be lookin at 1.50 area again...

See it??

--I wasn't going to yell that out, but yeah....
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
If we break 1.80 we can easily see a dollar.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
The question is .... Why the hell is Rufas lettin it happen???

Seems counter productive to the big picture,to me.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by casviper:
If we break 1.80 we can easily see a dollar.

??? Why a dollar?

I would have to bet against that... IMO
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by casviper:
If we break 1.80 we can easily see a dollar.

??? Why a dollar?

I would have to bet against that... IMO

There is long term support around 1.02+...

I cansee it happening on a major, major shake....or some bad news....
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
The question is .... Why the hell is Rufas lettin it happen???

Seems counter productive to the big picture,to me.

That is my only concern too rat, I think we're all just frustrated that he does not care about the daily games the MMs play with his companies stock... In the end I believe we will have the last laugh, but it sure is hard to stick this out day in and day out...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
finally caught up on all the action last night... looke a little deeper at that Trilateral site and was absolutely shocked when I looked at the meeting minutes from the last annual meeting in Washington D.C. Look at some of the people doing the talking. I wonder how much it cost to attend this party!

http://www.trilateral.org/annmtgs/programs/05WASH.htm
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
Casviper has been saying this since last Thursday. We drop below 1.80 we can easily see a dollar. Not sure why he keeps saying it.

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by casviper:
If we break 1.80 we can easily see a dollar.

??? Why a dollar?

I would have to bet against that... IMO


 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
finally caught up on all the action last night... looke a little deeper at that Trilateral site and was absolutely shocked when I looked at the meeting minutes from the last annual meeting in Washington D.C. Look at some of the people doing the talking. I wonder how much it cost to attend this party!

http://www.trilateral.org/annmtgs/programs/05WASH.htm

Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Kissinger, Greenspan, Kobayashi, etc...

A bunch of nobody's ehh, lol...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
MAJOR scandel would drop it to a buck...

This stock has had great support, I just can't see that low for no major reason... IMO
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
Did someone have something difinitive that tied Rufus to trilateral? Because Rufus only went as far as saying that he had heard of it, but the overall impression was that nobody in last nights broadcast related had ties to it.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
I think TUT brought it up spooky, he said for investors to do DD on it and they will find a connection...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
I think TUT brought it up spooky, he said for investors to do DD on it and they will find a connection...

Sure seems to be some kind of link with the international community IMO.

Even the institutional investors are foreign, then EURO bonds... Just can't "see" it all yet.
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Volume seems pretty low for today, no?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...Rufus is being coached by a NEW WORLD ORDER and is soon to be the ruler of earth...

I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
If you look at the chart we have been falling since our 3.80-4.00 high. Trust me, I don't like this fall. I own this stock however, I was right last week when I said we would fall to 1.80 and if we did not break it (1.80)we would go up, but end the day down which we did. The charts to me indicate that a free fall for whatever reason would make this fall to a dollar AND if it falls to a dollar and depending on the cause of this fall, could make it fall further.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am just remembering mentioning a while back that I felt some serious vibes early on that some people with real power, and real clout, and seriously real money were involved in this deal. Now here in the eleventh hour the who's who list of the Free Masons and the Skulls and Bones show up on a Trilateral meeting minutes with international counterparts? HELLO!

I am not a believer in conspiracy theories but this just went way the heck beyond my original "vibe"! If Tut is tied to this group? Well lets just say he does not "need" a job.

There is no way I am leaving this party at this point. People like this do not lose money. They play with it, and other peoples lives and livelyhoods quite a bit but they do not lose it in the long run. That group, a couple of International banks, and a King from Dubai, and I am in. {dancing at my desk}
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
Bad Kim Jong-Il, BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 -


Now what's our panty-waste president gonna do it about it?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
haha...Rufus is being coached by a NEW WORLD ORDER and is soon to be the ruler of earth...

I FIGURED IT OUT!!!

Smoke another one Crab..... That chit won't hurt ya!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I do see us taking a hit today, but down to a dollar, not yet...

-that's just my .02 cents, could be wrong ~

Time will tell ~
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
haha...Rufus is being coached by a NEW WORLD ORDER and is soon to be the ruler of earth...

I FIGURED IT OUT!!!

Smoke another one Crab..... That chit won't hurt ya!!!
ROFLMAO [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
maumee...did you listen to the SPR thing?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
maumee...did you listen to the SPR thing?

No... and Define please..
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Where did all the people go that talk to Ben? Haven't heard from them lately.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I'm turning off the computer & doing something with my life today. Still in this for a little while more but I WON'T HOLD MY BREATH WAITING. Come'on Rufie- Sh*t or get off the pot- buddy!

Ok- going outside- beautiful day!

Glta - hopefully he throws us a bone.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
maumee...did you listen to the SPR thing?

No... and Define please..
sub penny radio, I'll try to find the recap for you rat...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
maumee...did you listen to the SPR thing?

No... and Define please..
Subpenny radio...
just was curious if you had listened to it...and get the hell of the 'putor and go outside...before it snows...
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
here you go rat

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
This is from the subpenny show on Sunday


~5 billion in help for the republican and the clean up of 911..
~Similar to an IPO.
~It can't be a scam at this level example...
look at 8k filings and the 15 a share...the SEC makes them proove that this is real...they question things...and there is no way that you can "fool" the SEC.
~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion the 90 ticker starts when the 10k and reset are completed.
~his company has done all the DD the UN is involved
~Rufus has powerful connections
~Rufus's goals are to better allot of situations in the world, he wants the share holders to have a better life...and make the world better for many parts of the world.
~there are obviously other backers for rufus and he has the connections world wide.
~(keep in mind that most of these comments are from Tut's DD and opinon)
~he beleives that Rufus is attempting to build a better life in other parts of the world as well.
~trilateral is meant there are powers behind the seens. http://www.trilateral.org/memb.htm
~Tut feel that this is not just a short squeeze, but he thinks that Rufus sees the average shareholder should be able to get the benefits for once.
~Tut has also been involved/looking into the NS
~This has become personal for him and he feels that this is a great opportunity for them, a once in a life time chance, and the shorts have no right to take this chance away from the shareholders.
~he is associated with a number of "groups" but will not elaborate.
~He is suggesting that any shorters that they should begin covering.
~He wants all shareholders to call there congressman and keep calling
~it doesn't matter if you have the shares in your account the brokers are responsible for those shares.
~He feels that if you place your shares up for sale as high as you can, then it will help in the short squeeze.
~In connection with the nephew of the richest man..."rufus" is connected to some very powerful people in the world...again...no comment.
~Rufus is now on.
~Tut asked if it was still Rufus's plan to do everything in one swoop, and Rufus said it has always been the company's plan to go to NASDAQ and they are still working with the MM to get that done...
~the hold up has been do to the adp list
~


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
[Big Grin] ya beat me...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
[Big Grin] ya beat me...

what's up 10. crazy night last night. People on Paltalk said that Rufus said we are worth 15 billion. I don't remember hearing it, but it was LATE! [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
--nice piece of work there btw 10 [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Thanks gang!!!!

What is this ADP List and when is it commin' out??/
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
go pick up a bottle of champagne and be ready..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Crazy is one word...that paltalk was a first for me...never been there...quite interesting [Smile]


quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
[Big Grin] ya beat me...

what's up 10. crazy night last night. People on Paltalk said that Rufus said we are worth 15 billion. I don't remember hearing it, but it was LATE! [Wink]

 
Posted by dog on :
 
All shares must be honored...

"Have you ever heard of a broker not honoring shares in an account that you purchased in the market?" -RPH
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Thanks gang!!!!

What is this ADP List and when is it commin' out??/

bump
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks..things got crazy about the time that Rufus came on...and I got distracted... [Wink]
Rufus was also hard to hear...kinda fast talking and choppy...so I stopped with the notes...

And as i said last night...I think that TUT is Glassman... [Wink]
Tut really has no more knowledge than the rest of us...just an investor with a few groups...that did some good DD...IMO

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
--nice piece of work there btw 10 [Smile]


 
Posted by TimW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
~He feels that if you place your shares up for sale as high as you can, then it will help in the short squeeze.

Mine have been up for sale at $375 a share for awhile.

[Eek!] [Wink]
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
Constant trading since BOD and now nothing for 30 minutes. MM must be at lunch. [Wink]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Thanks gang!!!!

What is this ADP List and when is it commin' out??/

bump
I think it is a list with all the shareholders names on it. If your name is not on it you have to contact someone at CSHD. They should recieve the list by today and will release it for us to see
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...I am not sure what the ADP stand for...but here is BB's comment and Vins definition...all I know is that it has something to do with the MM's and the amount of shares...blah blah blah..

Vin
Member


Member Rated:
posted October 09, 2006 01:12 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADP has a division called ICS - Investor Communication Services. According to their site they "distribute quarterly reports, interim reports, news reports, corporate announcements, prospectuses, brokerage statements, proxies, dividend checks and a variety of other shareholder communications. Our clients include more than 800 banks and brokerage firms, as well as over 400 mutual fund families and we service over 14,000 public corporations."

Is this who they're referring to?
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ADP list was requested on the 29th.

sabra says they could only order from the day forward to the day behind... (theyre giving them the runaround is the gyst)

lag...

take 3 days to process and it should be in our office for monday.

rufus posted the fist one cuz he basically didnt believe it. so he posted it on the website

they say adp's reputation is shot at this point in their opinion.


 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
thanks for posting those too 10, that time you beat me!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
ADP's lists reflect the names of beneficial owners - NOBO.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Spooky!!!

There used to be a joint in Denver called After the Gold Rush...on Colfax ave.

Had a Cliff Diver inside and you could eat in differant parts of the world ..ie...In a cave ...in an arctic climate ..in the jungle....bla-bla-bla.....

It was kinda cool...just wonderin if it was still around or if you remember it...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL...I still am not sure what ADP stands for or what it is...but I guess it is needed...

quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
thanks for posting those too 10, that time you beat me!


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
You ate in the cave didn't you maumee...
[Razz]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
ADP is part of the problem... not a solution. Don't worry if your name is not on the list. The list only contains 765 names and chances are none of us are on it.
Exposing the list is part of exposing the problem.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LOL...I still am not sure what ADP stands for or what it is...but I guess it is needed...

quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
thanks for posting those too 10, that time you beat me!


Automatic Data Processing
http://www.adp.com/
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks dog...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LOL...I still am not sure what ADP stands for or what it is...but I guess it is needed...

quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
thanks for posting those too 10, that time you beat me!


ADP -- Automatic Data Processing, Inc.
Com (10 Cents)
Primary Venue: NYSE

It's the company that produces the NOBO lists
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LOL...I still am not sure what ADP stands for or what it is...but I guess it is needed...

quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
thanks for posting those too 10, that time you beat me!


Automatic Data Processing

 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
10!!! We are supposed to get some snow here this week end...

You better get outside and get some firewood cut..

I'm runnin low..

I am going to take your advise and go out side for a bit....Too nice today....

P.S. 3 or 4 full coards should be plenty...., and don't cut them any longer than 16 inches.....they won't fit in My wood burner if you do...

Thanks....

now get goin...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
http://www.adp.com/
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
ADP's lists reflect the names of beneficial owners - NOBO.

thanks Liv, by the way your eyebrows statement is hilarious!!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Just noticed some 9/29/06 DTC data on the website. Is this new stuff? What we were waiting on?

http://www.waatle.com/1441222.html
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
For some reason, I think the 10k will be filed late Thursday night or Friday morning.

I think that would help the PPS get talked about all weekend long.

If Rufus "goes all out" then we could have a "going to Naz" PR also... and give the Naked Share issuers time to research and see that they need to make a choice, cover or be fined.

Friday IMO, could be the BIGGE$T day that we've seen yet.

JMO... Don't have anything to back that.

But Rufus is in no "hurry" like he was it seems, so we will see....

Again, just a gut feeling...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
You ate in the cave didn't you maumee...
[Razz]

it was a pretty neat place from what I remember...

and Yes I did, 10!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Did not Rufas say sumpthin about watchen out for sumpthin today.......lastnight on the radio?
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
yeah rat, he said be on the lookout tomorrow but he said it at 3am, so we're not sure if we get something today or tomorrow
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Just noticed some 9/29/06 DTC data on the website. Is this new stuff? What we were waiting on?

http://www.waatle.com/1441222.html

First part... ADP list pending.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
that's what I figured...
As for the wood...get on that buddy...
and yes Rufus did say to look ourt for somethin'...but it' wasn't clear if it was for today or Tuesday...

edit..Rich...you keep beating me...so I am leaving...LOL...have a good one guys...I'll check back later..

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
You ate in the cave didn't you maumee...
[Razz]

it was a pretty neat place from what I remember...

and Yes I did, 10!! [Big Grin]


 
Posted by F4i4Brian on :
 
Are you thinking of Casa Bonita? [Wink] After the Gold Rush was a night club on Sheridan & 6th Ave.


quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Spooky!!!

There used to be a joint in Denver called After the Gold Rush...on Colfax ave.

Had a Cliff Diver inside and you could eat in differant parts of the world ..ie...In a cave ...in an arctic climate ..in the jungle....bla-bla-bla.....

It was kinda cool...just wonderin if it was still around or if you remember it...

Sorry... back to CHSD...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Does it look like they covered a buch since the 13th?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
the #'s are higher from the 19th to the 29th...
Do we want those numbers lower?

quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Does it look like they covered a buch since the 13th?


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I thought Rufus said "Watch the market tomorrow."

??? kind'a weak I thought...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by F4i4Brian:
Are you thinking of Casa Bonita? [Wink] After the Gold Rush was a night club on Sheridan & 6th Ave.


quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Spooky!!!

There used to be a joint in Denver called After the Gold Rush...on Colfax ave.

Had a Cliff Diver inside and you could eat in differant parts of the world ..ie...In a cave ...in an arctic climate ..in the jungle....bla-bla-bla.....

It was kinda cool...just wonderin if it was still around or if you remember it...

Sorry... back to CHSD...
Yes I am Brian [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

I sit corrected.... We used to go to the Goldrush and get smashed after Casa Bonita's...LOL

It was a long time ago..

The food at that place wasn't all that great ,,,but the atmosphere was fun....

Damn....That was 25 years ago already....gettin old..
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
good day everyone i heard a list was to be out today ? to see if our names on it is this what was stated? Missed some chit lately . tia
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Thanks..things got crazy about the time that Rufus came on...and I got distracted... [Wink]
Rufus was also hard to hear...kinda fast talking and choppy...so I stopped with the notes...

And as i said last night...I think that TUT is Glassman... [Wink]
Tut really has no more knowledge than the rest of us...just an investor with a few groups...that did some good DD...IMO

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
--nice piece of work there btw 10 [Smile]


damn distractions, I was thinking the same think about Glass=Tut. Rufus was pretty clear that we are going to the Nasdaq, for those who didn't listen. Gotta go to class. Later
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Scottrade has higher number of NOBO shares held.... they are trying to cover.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
What makes you guys think that Glass= Tut???
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Glass is not Tut.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
What makes you guys think that Glass= Tut???

whoever started that rumor was just making a joke
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Thats what I'm sayen dog....I just don't see how they compare..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Scottrade has higher number of NOBO shares held.... they are trying to cover.

They better try a little harder Gol- Danget!!!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
What makes you guys think that Glass= Tut???

whoever started that rumor was just making a joke
bump
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Scottrade has higher number of NOBO shares held.... they are trying to cover.

They better try a little harder Gol- Danget!!!
ahhh,...

-If shares are being pulled off the marketto cover the air shares, then how is MORE air shares helping us?...

The NOBO should be coming down to where the actual share count is IMO....
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Maybe you need to BUMP 10 in the head with this knowledge....I think she posted sumpthin along those lines... thats why I asked about it....


You see that 10?????

IT WAS A JOKE!!!!

now go cut my wood...and stop causin trouble...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
The Depository Trust Company
One Time Security Position Report
Position as of: 09/19/2006
0705 SCOTTRADE 5,203,265


The Depository Trust Company
One Time Security Position Report
Position as of: 09/29/2006
0705 SCOTTRADE 9,302,075


Scottrade has more real NOBO shares. Good sign for Scottraders.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Can you get the same reports on TDAm????
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Where did all the people go that talk to Ben? Haven't heard from them lately.

I'm here...just extremely busy at work...as you can see, I can't seem to get caught up...sorry. [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
The Depository Trust Company
One Time Security Position Report
Position as of: 09/19/2006
0705 SCOTTRADE 5,203,265


The Depository Trust Company
One Time Security Position Report
Position as of: 09/29/2006
0705 SCOTTRADE 9,302,075


Scottrade has more real NOBO shares. Good sign for Scottraders.

--more "real" shares?...

Ok let's walk thru this cause something isn't right.

The NOBO is a list of people, brokers etc that have bought shares, the NOBO list keeps track of who bought how many shares, the problem is that the NOBO has MORE shares then what are issued out by the company...

So we know there was naked shorting going on, now how can one tell WHO has the "real" shares by looking as the whole list of people/institutions that have bought shares on the NOBO list?...

I don't think you can...

This is the reason people were going to get certs.
right?.....

And if the NOBO's numbers are getting bigger then the naked shorting hasn't stopped.

It's like if I gave everyone a dollar out of a $100 bill, there SHOULD be only 100 people who get a dollar out of that $100. But the NOBO says there are close to 200 people who got $1 out of that $100, and that can't be...

Hence out little problem...

Is someone seeing it differently???
JMO ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
as for waatle shareholders selling today. Not for nothing but if they were so sure of the reset why the heck would they be selling today. If they've waited this long whats a few more days. That's a bs reason or excuse to me to explain the selling.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
as for waatle shareholders selling today. Not for nothing but if they were so sure of the reset why the heck would they be selling today. If they've waited this long whats a few more days. That's a bs reason or excuse to me to explain the selling.

Don't think they are... Maybe some profit taking, but I don't see no "dump" going on... IMO
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Scottrade says 2-3 months for certs due to the demand....
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
People do not get the NOBO from ADP and the DTC list confused. People migrating their accounts out of TDAM could be the reason others are reporting more share. Additionally investors have bought more in this time frame which could also explain differences.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think we have beat the "certs/horse" to DEATH. Rufus stated we will be just fine no matter what you decide to do. Pulling your certs will just encourage a short-squeeze. I don't think it was ever meant to scare anyone, or be such a big deal. Things are going to happen soon enough and we'll all be very happy. This is JMO.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
People do not get the NOBO from ADP and the DTC list confused. People migrating their accounts out of TDAM could be the reason others are reporting more share. Additionally investors have bought more in this time frame which could also explain differences.

"Excellent" point tax ~
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
AMERITRADE 5,274,511 ~ 9/09

AMERITRADE 3,364,572 ~ 9/29
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
as for waatle shareholders selling today. Not for nothing but if they were so sure of the reset why the heck would they be selling today. If they've waited this long whats a few more days. That's a bs reason or excuse to me to explain the selling.

Don't think they are... Maybe some profit taking, but I don't see no "dump" going on... IMO
exactly, but I do believe they are protecting their initial investment, which for some was years ago...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
as for waatle shareholders selling today. Not for nothing but if they were so sure of the reset why the heck would they be selling today. If they've waited this long whats a few more days. That's a bs reason or excuse to me to explain the selling.

Where did you get this info? Rufus stated he had to wait for ALL shareholders to have their shares ready. They were waiting on the Waatle shares to be switched over. I never heard anything about them SELLING. He said if they didn't take care of this problem now, then it would have caused him more problems later. [Smile]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Scottrade says 2-3 months for certs due to the demand....

glad I'm not with them, I ordered mine last monday and choice trade said I should recieve mine in 2-4 weeks
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
All we have for the 29th is the DTC list. We didn't get an updated NOBO list, so we can't really tell how many shares are out there. The DTC list getting larger would seem to say that there are more real shares out there. Thus, the float is a bit higher.

From the DTC list, Ameritrade is actually down to 3364572 from 5274511. This must be because some real shares were sold or at least moved out.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
DTC numbers con't:

E*TRADE 4,046,914 ~ 9/09


E*TRADE 4,927,827 ~ 9/29
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
DTC numbers con't:

E*TRADE 4,046,914 ~ 9/09


E*TRADE 4,927,827 ~ 9/29

Little covering going on looks like!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Scottrade is full of chit.... I get different answers EVERY time.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Scottrade says 2-3 months for certs due to the demand....

What? is this another brokerage begging for a lawsuit over the happenings of this stock? LOL this does not sound legal folks!
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Think I seeing right....10 minutes with no trades.....is something going on?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Scottrade is full of chit.... I get different answers EVERY time.

LMAO...

Yeah remember we pushed and pushed those emails till we got that "We'll check with our BACKROOM" answer...

wth is that! lol ~
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Think I seeing right....10 minutes with no trades.....is something going on?

I thought the same thing earlier. Come to find out my streaming for CSHD has just stopped. Restarted and everything started working again.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Only one trading halt as of right now, and it isn't CSHD.

10/9/2006 10:46:42 WGMGY WORLD GAMING ADR H.11

Reason Code:
H.11 Trading Halt - Regulatory Suspension/Cease Trade Order.
Trading is halted in conjunction with a foreign securities exchange or market for regulatory reasons.Security is dually listed or registered and a foreign regulatory authority or market halted security.

Hmmm... Dual listing? Wonder how much it goes for in Berlin.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
yes maumee I was joking about the glassman and tut thing...

Chart or Tax, anyone...shouldn't these numbers from the DTC go down instead of up? I understand that with peeps pulling CERTS out of their brokers and people switching to new brokers that the numbers would change...but the bottom number...the Totals...shouldn't they go down?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Scottrade is full of chit.... I get different answers EVERY time.

LMAO...

Yeah remember we pushed and pushed those emails till we got that "We'll check with our BACKROOM" answer...

wth is that! lol ~

" Our back office is currently checking into why the NOBO list is show such a difference than what we have on file with DTC. I'll will let you know once I can confirm an answer." Scottrade~

lol
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
lol
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
yes maumee I was joking about the glassman and tut thing...

Chart or Tax, anyone...shouldn't these numbers from the DTC go down instead of up? I understand that with peeps pulling CERTS out of their brokers and people switching to new brokers that the numbers would change...but the bottom number...the Totals...shouldn't they go down?

Yes and No, 10of13 they should go down where people are covering legal shorts, but if people sell from one institution, and people buy from another institution, then the numbers are going to be a bit different for each some up, some down. The real key is the additional 7 million shares reported on the 29th that did not seem to be there on the 9th. This could be a strong indication of covering of FTD's of legal shorts or merger shares entering the market. On the 9th these 7 million shares were in limbo, and now they are being counted. That is pretty key.

Remember, illegal naked shorting is not visible from the DTC. So the illegal covering and short sales will not show here.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Tax...
The 7 million was throwing me off...
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
lol
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
How do you know it's not?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Repo - you in Gmsc?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
GMSC the stock? Nope.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
It's just that I saw you over there given advice & I thought you were in it?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
It's just that I saw you over there given advice & I thought you were in it?

Huh? Over where?
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Repo gives advice for many stocks that he isn't in....a hobby it seems [Wink]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
In the thread for Gmsc.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Hey Sherri!!! You feel'n better?

What's your views for this week with CSHD?
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Repo gives advice for many stocks that he isn't in....a hobby it seems [Wink]

Actually, an occupation according to some... I'm a paid basher that works for NITE, remember?
Nope, didn't pay attention to that little detail...I just knew you weren't in this one either.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Repo gives advice for many stocks that he isn't in....a hobby it seems [Wink]

Actually, an occupation according to some... I'm a paid basher that works for NITE, remember?
Here are the threads on GMSC... I didn't post.

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/ f/2/t/012629.html?

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/ f/8/t/024611.html?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
 -

Newest Mastercard Commercial:
Buying a scam stock like CSHD = -$2,000
Having an Allstocks' member named Jenna (but last name not Jameson) = $0
Crapping all over CSHD holders now and then = PRICELESS
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Repo- sorry I must be thinking of a different thread.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
lol repo...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
 -

New Mastercard commercial:
Buying a scam stock like CSHD = -$2,000
Having an Allstocks' member named Jenna (but last name not Jameson) = $0
Crapping all over CSHD holders now and then = priceless

lmao!.. Hate to admit that!
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Hey all I got a call from Etrade... THey woke me from my nap grrr... THe guy wanted to address me putting my GTC sell order to high (1000 and 2000)... So I told him how it is and how Etrade is my employer and I have paid enough comissions for their MM's to puch a couple figures here and there. I also told him how I didn't want my shares up for grabs buy the illegal shorters and He pretty much stood down and We hung up. Then I check my Orders and sure enough th order I placed today was taken down... so I put it back up there... THe guy did say he would do what he could to make my order stick... He He
Ima
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Very funny Repo (I mean Dirk Diggler or should I say Peter North!)
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha, good at least someone else found humor in that... everyone gets so worked up about repo's posts... actually, most of them are pretty entertaining... one that comes to mind is the red rider decoder lol...
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
Too bad you have to rip off a Mastercard commercial to get your material. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
We're still good till the 10k says different IMO ~
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Chart- I'm surprised this doesn't go lower without news, don't get me wrong, I'm glad, just surprised. What do you think for EOD?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
well, with not a lot of volume building on this run up, guess what I see happening for EOD?....
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
low EOD huh?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I must admit that I really thought this would fall much lower today...
The fact that it is holding is another good sign IMO...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
yes 10, that is a good sign indeed!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
We need to stay over $1.73 for nasdaq correct?
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
I have a few minutes...what's going on guys?

What happened to this so called event that we were supposed to watch today? I thought we were supposed to watch what happened to the stock today.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
That is what Rufus suggested last night...our magic number is 1.73...

quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
We need to stay over $1.73 for nasdaq correct?


 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Hi everyone
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Hi Doc.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Am I missing something ......... I thought Rufus said "Watch tomorrow" ....has anything happenned except the PPS is down 6 1/2% ? I hope something happens today.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Hi Doc.

Hey Doc...what's the prognosis?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doc...seems the whole market is down today...no reason this should be any different...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Scotturd won't do an immediate DTC transfer for me. They state that it is for gifting only. Have to transfer which was only goin to take 2-3 days.... now saying 3-4 days.

Sounds like a job for my attorney. My rights are being violated. They are in the system and do DTC transfers. I don't care about their "policy" that I have never seen.

Fireworks in the morning. I'm either going to get my way or get arrested, cuz I'm not leaving the office until they DTC transfer my shares.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
St. Matt...................I hope things start to happen. We need a shot in the arm.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
No Doc- people think he meant tomarrow- I don't I think he meant today, & once again I feel let down- but I still have faith.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
maybe tommorrow was a metaphor for "at some later period in the future", lol...

kinda like Disney's Tommorrowland...

Dog...are we gonna see tommorrow on FoxNews "man held up in Scottrade office"..."wants some certs or something..."

I can hear it now..."man holds hostages for candy"...
 
Posted by li on :
 
Info for options traders...

"
Beginning with October expirations, if an option (call or put) has expired, and the option is in-the-money by $.05 or more, Scottrade will automatically exercise the option. Previously, the option had to be in-the-money by $.25 or more before Scottrade would automatically exercise the option.

This change is due to the Securities and Exchange Commission approval of the Option Clearing Corporation's request to lower the threshold by which equity options will automatically be exercised, at expiration, from $.25 to $.05.

If you own an option that is $.05 or more in-the-money and do not want Scottrade to automatically exercise your option, please contact your local Scottrade branch office by 4pm Eastern time (or within 15 minutes of the close of the option's market) on the last trading (usually Friday) prior to expiration day.
"
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
10of13 ..... as you know....It doesn't matter what the rest of the market is doing.....when a stock gets good news, it will go up regardless. Good news brings increases in price. Many stocks are up today. I admit more are down, but I think good news will rocket this stock.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Dog...keep asking to speak to someone higher up...until you get that done!...
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
St. Matt...................I hope things start to happen. We need a shot in the arm.

Yep Doc...this is getting old...you know, where we hear something is going to happen and then it does not happen. If you can't deliver the goods...just keep it shut! [Mad]
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Amen brother
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I fear we are putting these imposed time lines on ourselves. I feel like some of the deadlines are taken out of context and continually repeated until everyone believes they are concrete. As many have said in the past...believe what you see in a PR or filing.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
If this doesn't pan out..........Can you imagine how furious a lot of us will be at Rufus and company ? I hope that never comes to being.
 
Posted by li on :
 
Just as volume is needed to move up, volume is needed to move down. I think both sides as well as the daytraders are sitting back and waiting for more news wether it be public or private today. Until then profit takers have already taken and no huge move either way will happen IMO without some news, or when we close in on the deadline again toward the end of thise week.

(S&D is balanced until something manipulates it i.e. news of any sort)... sorry had to through that in there [Smile]
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
I believe he said that around 3AM today, so he might have meant Tuesday. Who knows with Rufus though.

quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Am I missing something ......... I thought Rufus said "Watch tomorrow" ....has anything happenned except the PPS is down 6 1/2% ? I hope something happens today.


 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
milliam....nothing here is being taken out of context. Last night I and several others here heard the CEO of CSHD tell us that we should watch tomorrow for exciting things.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
I think Sabra Dabbs should hire Dr. Evil (must be said with left pinky finger touching the left side of your mouth) to follow Rufus around and say "Zip-it...Zip-it" every time Rufus starts to tell us about future events.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...I needed that...it made me feel better.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Deep breath everyone...stop stressing over the PPS...there is no news and this is still holding...that is a good sign...even the bashers on Ihub have settled....seems there is nothing to take this up or down...so relax and see it through or jump ship... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Bottom line - Monday the 10k is due then the reset is suppose to follow - so that's what I'm waiting for - after that if nothing happens I will be heartbroken because I will feel like it's just another "penny" let down.......
but I TRUELY feel this is the real deal that's why I think it's even more frustrating because we're anxious to ROLL!!
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I don't know about the others that were up with me, but I feel that tomorrow is next day. It was still Sunday for most of us, unless thet were in Europe.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
10of13........you make a lot of sense.......
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
Just as volume is needed to move up, volume is needed to move down. I think both sides as well as the daytraders are sitting back and waiting for more news wether it be public or private today. Until then profit takers have already taken and no huge move either way will happen IMO without some news, or when we close in on the deadline again toward the end of thise week.

(S&D is balanced until something manipulates it i.e. news of any sort)... sorry had to through that in there [Smile]

Not with these MM's...have you seen their manipulation on low volume...it's criminal.
 
Posted by li on :
 
can someone explain to me why CSHD financials are on a pay per view site instead of publicly available. Public company should equal public record no?... And if it is private "insider information" then anyone who gets access to it is now an "insider" and "insider trading" are they not?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hell... Rufus could have meant ANYTHING by that!

We could be looking for his list to come out, a new MM, maybe a new institutional investor, or some major news headline dealing with FTD's...

It could be ANYTHING.......

That's why I said IMO, that what Rufus said was "weak."

In other words, don't look for fireworks....

JMO ~

the good news is that this is STILL the same company that is going to have a 5 BILLIN DOLLAR bond (and MORE!) on their 10k when it comes out [Smile]

So don't be too sad right now, at least one more major run coming! IMO [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
I've noticed that they never have released anything on Mon. Just an observation and JMHO
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Thank you Chartwalker....I needed to hear something like that.....
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
10 - thank you, you just put something in perspective for me - this stock came from - .08 - what about 4 months ago. I bought in at .95- 1 month ago.... so you know what momma - you are right!!!!! From where this came from it's holding pretty good!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
This is pretty public...

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001297077%252D06%252D000068%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C09%255C29%255 C&symbol=CSHD

quote:
Originally posted by li:
can someone explain to me why CSHD financials are on a pay per view site instead of publicly available. Public company should equal public record no?... And if it is private "insider information" then anyone who gets access to it is now an "insider" and "insider trading" are they not?


 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Helloooo...can I get some applause on that one...I'll be here all week~!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jenna [Wink]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
St. Matt- clapping for you over here.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Thank you Chartwalker....I needed to hear something like that.....

Yeah, now if I can just do something about those typo's!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by li on :
 
thanks 10, digesting....
 
Posted by li on :
 
Again not trying to bash... devil's advocate no more, I truly want this company to explode and do well so I myself and a few of my friends can become rich. But, that document looks a bit assmbled, I don't know of many accounts that produce accoutning statements written in html, and .jsp files are dynamic calls if I'm not mistaken which means one keystroke and everything changes, where is my "locked" .pdf file.

One posibility I thought of was that this document was scanned from an original but why? A document of this type of this type would almost certianly have been assembled originally as a pdf and locked why not share the original file?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow, our little CSHD is doing good!!

What a fighter [Big Grin]
 
Posted by li on :
 
And where is my 3:30 EOD in any direction!!! [Smile]

Tomorrow could be interesting but I'm still guessing it'll come down to the wire before we see a big move.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
li? I don't understand you question...Are you talking about the 8k filing?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Calm down people... I did not hear what Rufas said, about tomorrow or the next day. But even if it was tomorrow meaning today or tomorrow meaning tuesday. It is not over yet. PR's can be filed all the way up until midnight then they are filed the next day.

I got a share over here that cost me a heck of alot less that what it is worth right now, and that in my head and heart is worth a heck of alot more than it is right now. Oh and by the way that share has lots of brothers and sisters. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Bittermac on :
 
First time posting, been lurking for a while now. I think what a lot of you are saying is valid. With no news, the PPS should be sinking lowing than it is. To hold position like that means something.
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
What's does the Tut-meister have to say today? Anything?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Welcome Bittermac...and agreed!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
What's does the Tut-meister have to say today? Anything?

I think he ruined the mystery last night when he was on the radio because apparently he's just another shareholder that did his DD with his Buddies. We were hoping he was "in the know"!!
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
What's does the Tut-meister have to say today? Anything?

I think he ruined the mystery last night when he was on the radio because apparently he's just another shareholder that did his DD with his Buddies. We were hoping he was "in the know"!!
Didn't catch that - I guess I skipped over those pages...lol
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
What's does the Tut-meister have to say today? Anything?

I think he ruined the mystery last night when he was on the radio because apparently he's just another shareholder that did his DD with his Buddies. We were hoping he was "in the know"!!
You mean Tut is not all knowing??? Oh the Emperor has no clothes! The dam is leaking!
 
Posted by li on :
 
yes I was refering to the 8k that you linked me 10...

I'm looking at the code now
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
anyone else seeing the shorts *1.90 right at close?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hey Bittermac! [Big Grin]

--Jenna, I think you hit that right on the head...

Now he's just a guy.....


well, we'll finish on positive uptic at least! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
1.90 Heyyy that is not bad!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I know Repo & now his Egyptian poems just won't be the same - maybe I can take over as Queen TuT.

Soon the Cobra will strike & they will squirm in his mouth as the poison slowly enters their veins, then victory will be ours, as the Pheonix spreads his wings & flies over to Repos house & "lets on go" right on his head- then the world will be at peace.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Haven't been able to follow much today. $1.90!! That's actually much better than I anticipated. This brave little stock sure has had to deal with just about everything "the others" could throw at it and yet it's still holding up quite well. Glad to see that.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Hi Vin!! Your Bears crushed my Bills. Congrats on being 5-0.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
I know Repo & now his Egyptian poems just won't be the same - maybe I can take over as Queen TuT.

Soon the Cobra will strike & they will squirm in his mouth as the poison slowly enters their veins, then victory will be ours, as the Pheonix spreads his wings & flies over to Repos house & "lets on go" right on his head- then the world will be at peace.

If your last name was JAMESON, I could interpret this poem in a way more (EXPLETIVE) way.

I guess the only question remains is... when do we hear Rufus on the radio admitting he is really 10of13?
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
I know Repo & now his Egyptian poems just won't be the same - maybe I can take over as Queen TuT.

Soon the Cobra will strike & they will squirm in his mouth as the poison slowly enters their veins, then victory will be ours, as the Pheonix spreads his wings & flies over to Repos house & "lets on go" right on his head- then the world will be at peace.

lol
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
EEEEW gross REPO!!!
 
Posted by li on :
 
10 looks like they used a common HTML conversion program to display the document, there was no evidence that I saw in the code of maniputlation. It always just thows me a bit when I see financials and "official" filings displyed in a parsed format. Thanks for the link.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
EEEEW gross REPO!!!

"I'm the scatman"...ahahahaha! That's one thing that I enjoy about this board. You people are losing your azzes daily, but still find humor now and then. May your mortgage companies and IRS be merciful when your bills are unable to be paid.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
10 looks like they used a common HTML conversion program to display the document, there was no evidence that I saw in the code of maniputlation. It always just thows me a bit when I see financials and "official" filings displyed in a parsed format. Thanks for the link.

Are you all talking about the 8K filed with the SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION??? The one you can find on EDGAR??? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
EEEEW gross REPO!!!

"I'm the scatman"...ahahahaha! That's one thing that I enjoy about this board. You people are losing your azzes daily, but still find humor now and then. May your mortgage companies and IRS be merciful when your bills are unable to be paid.
You're a trip. Most on the board are sitting on well over 100% gains...even today. If that's losing my ass I hope I never find it.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:

I guess the only question remains is... when do we hear Rufus on the radio admitting he is really 10of13? [/QB][/QUOTE]


Damn! You figured it out...Repo...and to think that I went through that sex change for nothin'... [Eek!]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
EEEEW gross REPO!!!

"I'm the scatman"...ahahahaha! That's one thing that I enjoy about this board. You people are losing your azzes daily, but still find humor now and then. May your mortgage companies and IRS be merciful when your bills are unable to be paid.
You're a trip. Most on the board are sitting on well over 100% gains...even today. If that's losing my ass I hope I never find it.
That's true... but its slowly slipping away. And there has to be SOME people (even though they won't admit it) who bought in the 2's and 3's.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:

I guess the only question remains is... when do we hear Rufus on the radio admitting he is really 10of13?
Damn! You figured it out...Repo...and to think that I went through that sex change for nothin'... [Eek!] [/QB][/QUOTE]

Sorry, meant she...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
EEEEW gross REPO!!!

"I'm the scatman"...ahahahaha! That's one thing that I enjoy about this board. You people are losing your azzes daily, but still find humor now and then. May your mortgage companies and IRS be merciful when your bills are unable to be paid.
You're a trip. Most on the board are sitting on well over 100% gains...even today. If that's losing my ass I hope I never find it.
That's FUNNY San
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I've had a great time today- LMAO - see ya all later- going to a local casino - we'll see if I get lucky!

DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MY GETTIN' LUCKY COMMENT REPO.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
This is from HSM. I have not had a chance to verify this with my office yet.

Today, 03:37 PM #12253
D904
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Marryland
Posts: 276 Quote:
Originally Posted by Astrocade
Great News , Scottrade is not short on the NOBO, clerical error from the ADP, Scottrade will be issuing a letter to CSHD shareholders on this position.

Broker confirmed that there is No short and are well aware of the NOBO for CSHD, call your Scottrade broker to confirm as I have.

Now lets Reset this bad Boy
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
FWIW: The following post is from HSM...with the tools I am using on Scottrade (yeah I know I need better) I can not see much detail about transactions. To the better armed regulars here on Allstocks that do follow the detail and flow of individual trades, is there anything to story this post asserts?....and if so ...reactions?

_________________________________________________
"Today, 04:44 PM #12262
dath1n9
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4 Any1 notices that the BUY from 16:00:03 -- 16:00:46 on ADVFN , look at the Type col = " form t "

'T' If reporting a single protected transaction. A protected transaction occurs when a large order is going through the market. The buyer (or seller) may wish to keep the order anonymous from the rest of the market as the size of the order could greatly alter the price of the stock. With a protected transaction, the dealer will put the trade through in small quantities rather than knock the whole order out in one hit. The entire transaction is reported once the deal is completed. The LSE is notified at the start and at the end of the transaction. However, the market as a whole isn't told until the end, thus the order is protected.

Big buyer coming ? "
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Form T
Definition

A NASD-required form that is used by brokers to report equity transactions after the market's usual hours.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Form T
Definition

A NASD-required form that is used by brokers to report equity transactions after the market's usual hours.

Nothing about "size new2? -just after hours?...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Hey Chart....

Would it be considered a violation of my rights to not allow me to do a DTC transfer of my shares?

Scotty says it's only for gifting shares. They do it then, so I figure they should do it because I tell them to.

My attorney and I will visit them in the am.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Hey Chart....

Would it be considered a violation of my rights to not allow me to do a DTC transfer of my shares?

Scotty says it's only for gifting shares. They do it then, so I figure they should do it because I tell them to.

My attorney and I will visit them in the am.

dog, a word search at even investopedia dot com might answer that...

Or at http://www.sec.gov/

Try those... cooking supper otherwise I'd LOVE to hunt that down for ya!

Good luck ~
 
Posted by dog on :
 
No worries...lettin the big dog attorney handle it.... I'll getrdone!
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
i got out completly today , good luck guys i will be keeping my eyes on this for a back in point.


[Cool]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Dog didn't Portman and BB do DTC transfers? The reasons that they gave you are not legit...BUT each broker can have their own rules I guess...Good luck with it all.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I think if I dig my heels in and threaten litigation all the way up the food chain I will get results....
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
[Big Grin] That should do it!

quote:
Originally posted by dog:
I think if I dig my heels in and threaten litigation all the way up the food chain I will get results....


 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Hey Chart....

Would it be considered a violation of my rights to not allow me to do a DTC transfer of my shares?

Scotty says it's only for gifting shares. They do it then, so I figure they should do it because I tell them to.

My attorney and I will visit them in the am.

DTC transfer is not for gifting. I DTC Transfered TDA -> Choicetrade. It takes all of 24 hours to do. Tell your broker to get cracking and call Clarity on the phone and get it done.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
They are giving me the run around. I'll fix it in the morning.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I'm thinking Pink Floyd...."is there anybody out there?" Jumped on here to see if any news, none. Darn!

Tomorrow is another day. Let's hope for better things.
 
Posted by Synastar1 on :
 
Scotty is backing a dog into a corner. Not good. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
if no news tonite, i doubt tomorrow.. prolly til the last day, 13th or 16th?
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
if no news tonite, i doubt tomorrow.. prolly til the last day, 13th or 16th?

Rufus said to "Watch Tomorrow" which he stated around 2:30 am this morning. Must have meant Tuesday. Hopefully something shows, even if it were to be his laundry list. [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Hey guys, I missed the market today, but only because my wife was busy giving birth to my beautiful baby girl [Smile]
7 lbs 14 1/4 ounces

Thanks for all the well wishes...

I guess my daughter beat the 10K, but like the Doc said she'll come when she's ready....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Congrads Doniboy!!!!!!

[Big Grin]

Wow, how did Rufus know your wife would give birth today?!!!

[yes I'm kidding!]

Great news Doniboy! [Smile]
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Hey guys, I missed the market today, but only because my wife was busy giving birth to my beautiful baby girl [Smile]
7 lbs 14 1/4 ounces

Thanks for all the well wishes...

I guess my daughter beat the 10K, but like the Doc said she'll come when she's ready....

CONGRA... DONIBOY [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]
THE BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY [Cool]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Congratulations DAD!!!!

Tell your wife we all said congrats!
Sending virtual flowers [Wink]
I hope she and the baby are doing well!

Again congrats!


quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Hey guys, I missed the market today, but only because my wife was busy giving birth to my beautiful baby girl [Smile]
7 lbs 14 1/4 ounces

Thanks for all the well wishes...

I guess my daughter beat the 10K, but like the Doc said she'll come when she's ready....


 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Hey guys, I missed the market today, but only because my wife was busy giving birth to my beautiful baby girl [Smile]
7 lbs 14 1/4 ounces

Thanks for all the well wishes...

I guess my daughter beat the 10K, but like the Doc said she'll come when she's ready....

Great news! Congrats!
 
Posted by wwilliammc on :
 
Congrats Doniboy
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Hey guys, I missed the market today, but only because my wife was busy giving birth to my beautiful baby girl [Smile]
7 lbs 14 1/4 ounces

Thanks for all the well wishes...

I guess my daughter beat the 10K, but like the Doc said she'll come when she's ready....

Congrats Donnie. Please tell me you're not going to name her Rufus,J/K. Glad that your wife and daughter are doing good and wish you all the best.

Now maybe we will get our 10K and Reset.

Good Luck
Wally
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Hey guys, I missed the market today, but only because my wife was busy giving birth to my beautiful baby girl [Smile]
7 lbs 14 1/4 ounces

Thanks for all the well wishes...

I guess my daughter beat the 10K, but like the Doc said she'll come when she's ready....


Congratulations Doni!!!!!
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Jenna....Are you still here ?
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Congrats Donnie
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
Congrats Doni, hopefully this baby will bring you luck w/ CSHD =)
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
OK......Can anyone here give me an answer to this....You are out NOW having a few drinks with friends (I know none of you would do this) and you tell your friends that you have to go to work tomorrow. What are you saying ? You have to go to work Tuesday morning or Wednesday morning. Now be honest......
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Congrats Doni! I've got three and there's nothing better! You're very blessed!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Hi Doc... Right now if I said that I would mean Tues morn....even though technically it is Tues morning but people don't think that way. I know what your getting at...
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Jenna...lets hope that he was being technical. Did you win at the casino ?
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
Congratulations to you Doni! [Smile]
 
Posted by DMOST on :
 
Congradulation DONIBOY!!!.

It has always been said that Kids are a source of immortality, so to that you should live forever.

Also, I've seen that you've been keep the bashers at bay over on that other board, and doing a great job, if I may add.

"LIVE LONG AND MULTIPLE" Spock (Star Trek) [Cool]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
FWIW, I received a similar e-mail as others here from Scottrade in regards to the NOBO list:

From: Scottrade Customer Support [mailto:support*scottrade.com]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 4:40 PM
To: Mike
Subject: RE: Branch Office Change


Dear Mike:

Thank you for your email. All clients that hold shares in street name at Scottrade are on the Non-Objecting Beneficial Owner List, or NOBBO, unless clients write us to opt out. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thank you for your business,
Jenn B.
Scottrade Inc.
www.scottrade.com
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Congrad's DONIBOY!!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Jenna...lets hope that he was being technical. Did you win at the casino ?

No, didn't win at casino but it was fun! They had a machine there called Wall Street. I played it for about 10 seconds & got off because if I didn't win on that I would have thought it was a sign!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
DOC, maybe if non of us look at our computers tomarrow & check it after hours something will happen like a 10k magically appear!! How's that?
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
From the FWIW department, tut-meister (whoever he/she is) has posted four times (looks like 2 almost duplicate posts...with a couple of differences) tonight as of 12:45 AM EST on HSM ….
Tut suggests something about going on subpenny again…….
.
.
AS for my two cents of an opinion, I want to see the 10-K and /or a substantial PR from management today, preferably both !!!

Copied from thread at http://www.hots tock mark et.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43023
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Today, 12:24 AM #13039

tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 237 When we get to NASDAQ all FTD's (fail to deliver) will have to be covered by the market makers within 24 hours which means you could see the ultimate short covering. Everyone's shares get transferred over regardless whether you bought "air share" or real. You must understand the when you buy shares they are "real" shares no matter who they were bought from and they must be delivered to your benefit.

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Today, 12:24 AM #13036

tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 237 Quote:
Originally Posted by quest4JC
Sorry to bring up air shares again, but I think I have a legit question. I know that everyone is going to be getting what they deserve for their shares if they're considered real or air shares and if they have the certs or are electronic. What happens if we go to nasdaq. For example. The float is 50 million, and there are 30 million air shares making it a total of 80 million. When we get to nasdaq are all 80 million shares going to get transferred over to nasdaq? Or do the people with certificates(shares in their name) get transferred over and the people that kept theirs electronically(street name) get labeled air shares and are paid out their $15 a share by their broker and are required to sell. I just don't understand how air shares can get transferred to nasdaq. can someone please shed light on this. tia

When we get to NASDAQ all FTD's (fail to deliver) will have to be covered by the market makers within 24 hours which means you could see the ultimate short covering. Everyone's shares get transferred over regardless whether you bought "air share" or real. You must understand the when you buy shares they are "real" shares no matter who they were bought from and they must be delivered to your benefit.

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Today, 12:15 AM #12999

tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 237 There seems to be still so much confusion about certificates from all the PM's I am receiving and from what I am reading on the board. Everyone listen please. You are fine with your share positions. What you have bought are legally yours whether they are "air shares" or reall shares. Rufus made that quite clear when we were on subpennyradio last night. Don't worry about your shares. It is only if you want your names on the transfer agents list that you register them or if you want to help in the short squeeze by pulling them out of circulation. You will be entitled legally to the same benefits as every other shareholder even if they are in the account in street name. The brokerage firm is acting for you on your behalf and if there are dividends due they are distributed to the beneficial holders which are all of you. None of you will miss out on the reset price, which is another concern I hear on the board. You will all be covered.

I may also plan on going onto subpennyradio again tomorrow to provide some better insight into this and a lot of other things that I believe are important for all shareholders now that we are so close to the final moments. This time I want to provide a much deeper insight into what I believe we are about to see with this company and the potential for all of you as shareholders.

You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish.

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash النصر لك
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Today, 12:10 AM #12983

tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 237 There seems to be still so much confusion about certificates form all the PM's I am receiving and from what I am reading on the board. Everyone listen please. You are fine with your share positions. What you have bought are legally yours whether they are "air shares" or reall shares. Rufus made that quite clear when we were on subpennyradio last night. Don't worry about your shares. It is only if you want your names on the transfer agents list that you register them or if you want to help in the short squeeze by pulling them out of circulation. You will be entitled legally to the same benefits as every other shareholder even if they are in the account in street name. The brokerage firm is acting for you on your behalf and if there are dividends due they are distributed to the beneficial holders which are all of you. None of you will miss out on the reset price, which is another concern I hear on the board. You will all be covered.

I may also plan on going onto subpennyradio again tomorrow to provide some better insight into this and a lot of other things that I believe are important for all shareholders now that we are so close to the final moments. This time I want to provide a much deeper insight into what I believe we are about to see with this company and the potential for all of you as shareholders.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I was looking at the Charters at the waatle website and found #6 to be interesting due to all the increased attention on and development of nuclear plants globally (this is what I gleened from reading a bunch of different information over the past year on how the world is dealing with increased demand for energy). Of course, the primary concern with nuclear plants (besides terrorism)is how to handle the nuclear waste.

6. Program to Build and Operate a Radioactive Materials and Atomic Waste Reclamation and Disposal Facility

Build and operate a safe, clean radioactive materials and atomic waste reclamation/re-mediation and disposal facility to process the World’s nuclear waste.
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Congrats Doniboy! [Smile]
 
Posted by Bittermac on :
 
Gratz Doni!!!!
I have been only lurking for a while, but I have had you, your wife and your unborn in my prayers for a while. Cheers!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
congrats doni. Glad everyone is doing well. I have two myself it's the best thing ever.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Congrats Doni!
Sure helps put things into perspective here!
May you and your family be healthy and happy!
God Bless!
Ima
 
Posted by joan32 on :
 
Goodmorning everybody!

Congradulations Doniboy!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hey Peeps! [Smile]
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
Good morning- Congrats Doniboy!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Doniboy wrote: I guess my daughter beat the 10K, but like the Doc said she'll come when she's ready....

Congrats on the baby girl!

Here's hoping that Cassity's baby doesn't beat the 10K...

Jo
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Break out the cigars.... Way to go Doni!!!

Makes our little stock look meaningless.

Maybe the college fund will arrive soon...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ok so we thought we were supposed to see something yesterday and we were wrong. That means today is the only other option for what rufus said something along the lines of watch the market tomorrow. I really hope we see something. Although I wouldn't be entirely suprised to see the pps start moving back up closer to the filing deadline.
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Hey Ryan, unless..Yesterday is still today in some other part of the world?

I think every day we wait, we get a little closer. I just hope that our efforts do not go in vain. Sometimes after all the research is done, you just need to have faith.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
lately stock I'm starting to run a little low of faith and would like some proof. That being said I am still in this thing
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
I just ran across this article which mentioned the Carbon Credits and thought I'd pass it along. Looks like the Carbon Credits are quite lucrative and can be very profitable. Each credit going for about $17.00. Anyway...here it is.

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Rhodia, SOCGEN Form Carbon Trading Joint Venture

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LONDON - French companies Rhodia and Societe Generale announced on Monday a 50-50 joint venture to handle all their carbon trading interests, building on past joint deals trading pollution cuts in the form of carbon credits.

The deal marks a new step in Rhodia's gradual transformation from ailing chemical company to booming environmental services business.

The international Kyoto Protocol is the basis for carbon trading, allowing rich countries which face emissions targets under the pact to achieve these by funding pollution cuts in developing countries.

The joint venture, ORBEO, will initially market pollution cuts at Rhodia's chemical plants in Brazil and South Korea, to the tune of some 11 to 13 million tonnes of carbon credits per year from 2007-12.

Such credits are trading at approximately 14 euros per tonne for guaranteed delivery, implying Rhodia's sales are potentially worth some 170 million euros (US$214.2 million) annually.

"The Group will be one of the largest holders of emissions credits worldwide," said Philippe Rosier, President of Rhodia Energy Services and of ORBEO, adding that the joint venture was already tracking carbon trades beyond Rhodia's operations.

Rhodia generates carbon credits by destroying the potent greenhouse gas nitrous oxide, a by-product of nylon manufacture, and the two plants in Brazil and South Korea are among the world's 10 biggest such Kyoto projects worldwide.

The Korean plant started generating pollution cuts two weeks ago while the Brazilian plant will follow suit next year, said Jerome Malka, ORBEO managing director.

In a past collaboration, Rhodia has already sold 10 percent of its expected pollution cuts to Societe Generale, the European Carbon Fund and French investment bank IXIS.

Rhodia sold these credits at 15 euros per tonne while they cost just 60 cents, Rosier said, illustrating how lucrative the business could be for a company that flirted with financial meltdown two years ago, when bondholders demanded debt repayment.

ORBEO will charge a brokerage fee of between 1 and 2 percent on carbon deals, and Rhodia and Societe Generale have each put in 5 million euros capital initially, an amount which would increase significantly next year, Malka said.

ORBEO is looking at additional carbon trading deals in China, Brazil and eastern Europe, with one deal expected to close at the end of this month.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Rufus said way back when this was still fronthaul on the first interview on m n 1. they thought doing the amazon project would be worth doing more for the credits than for the actual lumber as far as profits were conserned.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I can tell we are feeling down about things, so let's revisit "some" of what we KNOW will be on the 10k!...

Soooo close, hold strong!! [Smile]

[OLD NEWS]

Conversion Solutions Announces 5 Billion Euro Addition to Asset Management Portfolio

KENNESAW, Ga., Sept 27, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation announces the following current events have taken place.
CVSU would like to announce an additional

""5 Billion Euro denominated Global Bonds""

on the Republic of Venezuela with a 11% annual coupon has been added to the companies Asset Management Portfolio. The bond has been loaded in the Euroclear system with the following codes:


ISIN: DE0006106875

Common Code: 012481241
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
This is a good site for info regarding carbon credits...as far as i can tell so far. I havent been able to look into all of it yet. [Smile]

http://www.co2e.com/default.asp
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Doni and wife...congrats...on what has been created from your love... [Wink]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
has anyone found any concrete connection between rufus and the Trilateral Commission? I haven't seen anything yet.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
has anyone found any concrete connection between rufus and the Trilateral Commission? I haven't seen anything yet.

-was wondering about that myself...

But where to start?...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
has anyone found any concrete connection between rufus and the Trilateral Commission? I haven't seen anything yet.

The Trilateral Commission? Is that what they call the Mario Pino, Urban Cassavant, and Rufus golf outing?
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
I love it, we only dropped %5 yesterday and they are already gapping down 2 cents. Hope Rufus shows us what we are watching the market for today, lets see that 10K!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
what are the bets that we see or don't see anything in the market today? Place your bets.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
whats up with the huge wall on the ask???
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I looked up the Trilateral Commission information last night, and all I can say is that a case could be made that everything is tied to the Trilateral commission. I found a membership list from 2003, and it had almost everyone whose anyone on there. [Frown] Which tells you how high I rank in life. I was not on the list. LOL!

I think it is a dead end until we see a Trilateral logo tattooed on Rufas's arm.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
ok so we thought we were supposed to see something yesterday and we were wrong. That means today is the only other option for what rufus said something along the lines of watch the market tomorrow. I really hope we see something. Although I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see the pps start moving back up closer to the filing deadline.

You all need to have the mindset that you will see something when the company deems it is required that you see it. Often I see investor groups like this get into the mode where they demand PRs and the like from the company.

You should not base your investing on this type of requirement. While CSHD has been far more transparent than other companies it seems shareholders want more. This is simply emotional investing and when you do not get what you expect you trade on emotion. You are easy prey for the bashers.

Those who have DD'ed the company and properly aligned risk need far less hand holding.

Each of you must invest as you see fit. I came to this stock to play the flips and decided I like it long term. Win or lose it will be a collection of many lessons learned.

After playing with the DTers I have maintained this stock will go down daily. I only makes sense. I am prepared for that financially and mentally.

If you want this stock and believe in it you need a tough skin. If you can't take it...sell me your shares.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Have to agree portman...

Likewise I do see our day coming [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm not demanding anything simply stating what rufus said. that's all.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Rufus said that it would take a few hours to sign the documents and then they had to Edgarize them. It could be out anytime. GLTA
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Anyone else having problems with the Etrade website?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I hope it happens right now. although I am prepared and have been to ride this out until the end doesn't make it any less irritating.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I looked up the Trilateral Commission information last night, and all I can say is that a case could be made that everything is tied to the Trilateral commission. I found a membership list from 2003, and it had almost everyone whose anyone on there. [Frown] Which tells you how high I rank in life. I was not on the list. LOL!

I think it is a dead end until we see a Trilateral logo tattooed on Rufas's arm.

lol, This *is* a joke, right?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Rufus said that it would take a few hours to sign the documents and then they had to Edgarize them. It could be out anytime. GLTA

What?....
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Mornin' all - been really busy the last few days - on one hand, I'm glad it has been stagnate so I didn't miss anything, but sure would like to see the PPS start rising again. Hope everyone is well, and a big BOOYAH to Doniboy on the new addition!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Rufus said that it would take a few hours to sign the documents and then they had to Edgarize them. It could be out anytime. GLTA

What?....
In the interview Sunday evening!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I looked up the Trilateral Commission information last night, and all I can say is that a case could be made that everything is tied to the Trilateral commission. I found a membership list from 2003, and it had almost everyone whose anyone on there. [Frown] Which tells you how high I rank in life. I was not on the list. LOL!

I think it is a dead end until we see a Trilateral logo tattooed on Rufas's arm.

lol, This *is* a joke, right?
What part? they control everything? No joke. I am not on the list? no joke. Tattoo on Rufas's arm? yep that was a joke.

I am just saying they have CEO's of telecommunications, banks, and industry, political leaders and teachers, and pretty much every previous and current leader of the free world on thier membership list. Then if you dig far enough you find that most have dual and tripple membership in the CFR, BB, Skull and Bones, and Free Masons... which are just as big in not bigger.

It's a conspiracy man! (Ok that was another joke.)

Here is the link of membership list from 2003:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/weektc.htm
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
cass.... oh, thought maybe you did a phone call!
[Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Tex ~ the reason I say it is a dead end is because it is too vague. I use a Sprint Phone, and the CEO of Sprint is a member so does that mean I am tied to the commission. No.

Unless you find the tabloid pictures of me making out with Madeline Albright, or shots of me golfing with Bill Clinton for that matter. I doubt you can tie me significantly to the Trilateral Commission.

Or was I golfing with Madeline... boy was that a confusing day! HA HA!!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Tex ~ the reason I say it is a dead end is because it is too vague. I use a Sprint Phone, and the CEO of Sprint is a member so does that mean I am tied to the commission. No.

Unless you find the tabloid pictures of me making out with Madeline Albright, or shots of me golfing with Bill Clinton for that matter. I doubt you can tie me significantly to the Trilateral Commission.

Or was I golfing with Madeline... boy was that a confusing day! HA HA!!

just saying...am perplexed this might even come up...more weirdness
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Hey guys, I missed the market today, but only because my wife was busy giving birth to my beautiful baby girl [Smile]
7 lbs 14 1/4 ounces

Thanks for all the well wishes...

I guess my daughter beat the 10K, but like the Doc said she'll come when she's ready....

A little late, but heartfelt just the same...Congrats Donniboy...you are a Daddy! Best wishes to you and all of yours. Get some sleep as you will need it... [Wink]

My 7 month old slept through the night for the first time last night... [Razz]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Congrats Donni!

Kids are awesome!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I don't know reading about the Trilateral Commission. It was subject to lots of wild theories in the 1980's. I think it was a matter of time till a crack pot like Tut brought it up in discussion.

Do I think that there could be a tie. Probably. Is it a significant part of this play? I doubt it. There is enough international money involved here for organizations like the Trilateral Commission to have multiple players involved. Heck they could hold all the money, and have all the contacts. It does not change the play, and if anything just makes it stronger.

Trilateral = good international contacts. (political, wealthy, influential)
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Congrats Donni!

And congrats St. Matthew. I know Donni will be celebrating the day his new one sleeps the whole night!
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Lookin at the streamer id say that CSHD is neglected and unloved. [Frown]
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Just wait until you get used to them sleeping all night, and they decide to stay up [Frown]

(so says the sleepy mom of an 8 mo old)
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey Doniboy, I wrote this last night but when I posted it, it didn't work. Anyways, Congratulation on the baby GIRL!!! I'm happy to hear every thing went well with the birth.....take care.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Are we not watching the stock? My Etrade is not working this morning, and I am having to watch 5 minutes delayed crud. All I know is it is now showing 1.81... How low is it in real time?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Are we not watching the stock? My Etrade is not working this morning, and I am having to watch 5 minutes delayed crud. All I know is it is now showing 1.81... How low is it in real time?

$1.84
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey Tax, we are at 1.84 right now!
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
its actually up a bit from that Tax. 1.84 currently
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
volume is at 227,834 and thereabouts.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Thanks everyone... I am getting pissed at ETrade right now. the page is loading so slow it is pretty obvious that they are having some sort of network issue. Just the home page takes 2 minutes to load and the login... forget it.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
wooohoooo big run here LOL. Just added 890 and before I even got back to the main screen it was bought. 10 sec.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ok 6k shares just went through at 1.85 with nite on the ask now why is he still there his 500 share lot size should be gone correct?
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Good morning all, theres some decent buying going on, now at 1.85 Tax
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
$1.84 is my average price so I am still green (at least for now).
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
Riding free shares from around dollar here...
Also, bought some more at 1.92 on Thurs or Friday of last week.

quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
$1.84 is my average price so I am still green (at least for now).


 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Just wait until you get used to them sleeping all night, and they decide to stay up [Frown]

(so says the sleepy mom of an 8 mo old)

That would be my 6 year old...she wakes up in the middle of the night and attempts to watch TV...LOL

The, she can't figure out why she's so tired in the morning. [Eek!]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
back to hod woohoo [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
news?....
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I haven't seen anything yet.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Congratulations Doniboy! ... truly sugar and spice and everything nice, and it gets better from there! Enjoy this time!

Now CSHD, relax, breathe slow and deep ... you're about to be delivered too ... let's roll!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
"They" stagging another fake run up?...

Shaking shares on the way down.....
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
A run up to $4 again would be nice!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it seems to slow to me to be called a runup. You know the charts I don't though.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
I agree with Chart. There I don't see the volume for this to be any sort of a run. Looks like games to me...IMHO! [Smile]
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Covering? Maybe mm's know something!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
Nope Rufus said watch the market, i think we will see something!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Can anyone see what the size of the recent buys have been?
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Not sure if this one was posted...FWIW. I know I won't be holding my breath, but you never know.

Today, 03:05 AM #13219
tutankhamen
HSM Regular

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 243 Everyone should try to get a good rest. This has become too much of an emotional ride for all of you, We may have surprises tomorrow and you need your rest for it.
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
Do MM's know when something is going to be filed with the SEC before we do? If so, how?
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Can anyone see what the size of the recent buys have been?

mostly 500-5000, but we're moving fast!!!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
I agree with Chart. There I don't see the volume for this to be any sort of a run. Looks like games to me...IMHO! [Smile]

Please be wrong, Please be wrong, Please be wrong! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Wow, $2.04 looking nice...
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
something is up, this is not a head fake...
 
Posted by Kelroz on :
 
Maybe Rufus and crew protecting his $1.73 trigger price?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wtf?!!! ????
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Anyone have a theory?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Slowing down? Anyone with charts see anything?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
It's NEWS we need not a chart right now IMO
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
not slowing down, still moving up fast...
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Hmmm, i bummed out...in a few minutes i wont be able to watch this anymore. Its kind of nice seeing upward movement again!

I guess CSHD is getting its attention and love now. [Smile]
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
$2.17 and going... up
 
Posted by Kelroz on :
 
Maybe Heavy Order Volume and MMs are seeing how much they are willing to pay?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
holy snap! it's fast!!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
jeez just had a bowl of cereal and come back>>>> whats up..
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
$2.22 still don't see any NEWS anyone else?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
maybe it's been sent to edgar??
i'll be more comfortable once we pass $3.5
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
If it is news wth can I not find it?
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
Repo's got to be fuming - We're making $$ today. [Wink]
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Looks like news is coming!, just thrown another $500 at it!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus
MUST have filed our 10k!!!!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus
MUST have filed our 10k!!!!!!

think so too
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus
MUST have filed our 10k!!!!!!

If that was the case chart what IYO is the lag time?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Repo's got to be fuming - We're making $$ today. [Wink]

i doubt it...

he's probably trying to figure out how many shares he wants for this run too... [Cool]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Any of you guys buying right now? Have some more money I had the limit buy * 1.85 don't know what to cahnge it to!!! HELP!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
cool.. all that jump and the volume is still under 1mil..
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Repo's got to be fuming - We're making $$ today. [Wink]

i doubt it...

he's probably trying to figure out how many shares he wants for this run too... [Cool]

LOL
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
cool.. all that jump and the volume is still under 1mil..

Which is telling me that news is coming or the MM are playing again. - IMO
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Never mind guys I picked some more up at 2.22!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Any of you guys buying right now? Have some more money I had the limit buy * 1.85 don't know what to cahnge it to!!! HELP!!

Looks like we may be dipping??? You may want to watch this for a while.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
better be news!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Here's a dip let's see how far.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Too late Vin- this is exciting!!! Something must be up!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
sorry folks...I logged in a started reading and as soon as I got my L2 fired up...it reversed...

talk about sucky timing...
 
Posted by Tyraid on :
 
Small dip so far.
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
Hey Chart, any number guesses off your system?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Never mind guys I picked some more up at 2.22!

for future... if you ever want to buy in on a run up, (which isn't a good thing rule of thumb, -this is different) bid ABOVE ask ~ [Smile]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Too late Vin- this is exciting!!! Something must be up!

...let's just hope it's not "GAMES".
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
didn't we have a runup like this from 1.00-1.75 with no news and then the next day we exploded?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Do the MM know "things" are coming before we do?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
didn't we have a runup like this from 1.00-1.75 with no news and then the next day we exploded?

Something happened....

I hope this is the case again ~

Now I hope it holds!
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Do the MM know "things" are coming before we do?

yes, but I don't think this is them buying. I think someone knows something and we will see whatever it is soon...
 
Posted by retiredat49 on :
 
Yep...


quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Do the MM know "things" are coming before we do?


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
still looking for what's up... brb!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
 
Jenna - did you check your PM?
 
Posted by Tyraid on :
 
Holding strong. Now lets hear that news!! :-D
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
gotta be news... holding..... not finding anything yet...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
another run up?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
as long as we go above $3.5 i don't mind if the news is still late..
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
if this is what rufus told us to watch the market for I will say that I am enjoying it.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
where is BB and the cheering section??

Come on 2.50
 
Posted by Tyraid on :
 
Climbing again
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
new HOD Yipeee
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
Jenna - did you check your PM?

I read it & sent one back to you.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
no head fake..

Real deal something is pulling off IMO!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
arca on bid with a lot size of 20 someone wants a bunch of shares
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Looks like we did it people!! [Big Grin]

someone has some news.... Wait
till it goes public!!!

Edgar filings are open today!! fyi
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
REPO, where are you? Are you to scared to come out & play? Where's your mouth now Repo? Are you playing golf with the Enron folks?
 
Posted by TimW on :
 
Sorry it took me so long to ask the market makers to back off.. Told em google's running now with news and they all bailed to google.

kidding.. but glad to see it move.. but whats the purpose of the move....
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Checked Edgar nothing up on the site for CSHD yet....but I'll keep checking.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
and this is why we go through all the anxiety and speculation of waiting - enjoy
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
Sorry it took me so long to ask the market makers to back off.. Told em google's running now with news and they all bailed to google.

kidding.. but glad to see it move.. but whats the purpose of the move....

How about... it is a couple ten dollar bills under valued. That is a good reason for a run. Oh yeah and somthing is up that we don't know about yet. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
not sure yet tim. It seems to be holding pretty good. When cshd filed the NT10-k how much earlier than we knew about it did the mm's start tanking it like 20min or so.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I'm so naked without my L2's. Is MURF doing anything? What MM's on the job now?? I like'em.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
A-N-T-I-C-I-P-A-T-I-O-N.....
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
I'm so naked without my L2's. Is MURF doing anything? What MM's on the job now?? I like'em.

I can't see him on my l2's. I was just about to ask if anybody can see him also?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hi Gang!!!!!

I kinda thought that we would pop up today....this is good...

Any reason why????? Is there any mystic Tut Chit out there???
 
Posted by Tyraid on :
 
two nice little runs with veyr little dip. This is killing me have to leave for work in hour and half.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
where is BB and the cheering section??

Come on 2.50

i have no idea what im cheering for, havent been able to keep up...


YAY RAH RAH MONEY MONEY MONEY [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Moneyx3 Murf is still at $5
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I think my Queen Tut poem from yesterday helped out.

Soon the Cobra will strike & they will squirm in his mouth as the poison slowly enters their veins, then victory will be ours, as the Pheonix spreads his wings & flies over to Repos house & "lets on go" right on his head- then the world will be at peace. [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
what do you think next run to 2.40 Hmm
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
C'mon baby. Let's get news on our 100th page!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I think its the cheapest it'll ever be anymore. With that anticipation pps will rise along with Accum and dist.

Get ready to ROLL!!!

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p98987492956
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rat.... ??? don't know, just took off hard!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I don't know if I'm right, but the runups seem much more controlled than they have in the past l2's aren't jumping all over the place it looks different to me than the last time.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I don't know if I'm right, but the runups seem much more controlled than they have in the past l2's aren't jumping all over the place it looks different to me than the last time.

Wait till "whatever" goes public, then I think you'll see that happen again... MO
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I was actually liking that it was going up pretty steady without a huge retrace it looked good. now on the other hand if it runs up to our mark that we're looking for I won't complain [Big Grin]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
I just got out of a meeting and the thing is up .42 cents...what's up?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
where is BB and the cheering section??

Come on 2.50

i have no idea what im cheering for, havent been able to keep up...


YAY RAH RAH MONEY MONEY MONEY [Big Grin]

http://www.ppweb.net/gifs/Girl_Cheerleaders.gif

Thanks 10!

Lunch time folks [Smile] , expect a lil dip, but in all we are going uppity up today and here on out.

Rollin, Rollin, ROLLIN [Smile] !!!

Just the beginning. GO CSHD.
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I just got out of a meeting and the thing is up .42 cents...what's up?

no news yet St. Mat, but something is up!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I just got out of a meeting and the thing is up .42 cents...what's up?

Just took off hard.... ???
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Vin..Check your PM.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
REPO, where are you? Are you to scared to come out & play? Where's your mouth now Repo? Are you playing golf with the Enron folks?

Oh momma, you know I love when you talk sass to me... will you also call me a "bad boy"?

I'm here, it's up. Congrats... are you selling?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Not selling til we hit the BIG HUGE digits. I'm so glad you care & that your here with us. I really mean that. Are you buying an Repo?
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
I just got out of a meeting and the thing is up .42 cents...what's up?

Just took off hard.... ???
Damn...I had a buy in at $1.80 for 2000 shares...that sux. [Mad]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
LOL, Repo takes us up to 100 pages!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
BB - where are the cheerleaders?
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
Anyone know who the consensus best broker to transfer into is? in DTC transferring out of ameritrade today. Dog did you have success w this? I noticed choice trade is run by penson but they owe their clients 1.2m shares and only have 200K. scottrade seems to be the best of the discount brokers only a 2:1 ratio. Dog who did you go with. Any help a.s.a.p would be appreciated. Thanks in advance - CON
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Con...your call...Portman transfered his shares to Choice with no problem...PM him and ask...
Isn't scott the one that Dog is trying to leave?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
holding up nice, but can't find any news...

Must be "loading up" that BIG Honk'en 10K!! LOL
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Dog and his lawyer were probably arrested for giving his local borker a much needed *ss kicking, lol...
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
YES but they seem to have one of the best ratios of actual shares to owed shares on the cvsu web page unless im misunderstanding something?
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I am not worried about choicetrade. I remain concerned with TDA.

Remember a DTC xfer moves the phys certs as well.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
my account is TDAmeritrade and for the time being I'm not moving anything until everything is settled with this stock. I don't want to be moving anything right now, but that just my decision.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
remember too...the new NOBOP will tell us new things...the DATA on the site is aged at this point.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
didn't rufus just say that in the interview that getting certs wasn't a neccessity if you were on the nobo list you would be fine as long as you were there by sept 29th?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
They made it look like it was heading down so the Waatle peeps took profit to ensure it prob keeping some for the ride through the reset. MM's wanted cheap shares and they got'em from those folks.

I'm holding through the reset and going on vacation after the program!

As for me, back to studying.

Enjoy the show!!!
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
thanks for your help. portman/ryan, the transfer is more proof you have the shares and portman i was thinking along the same line if you transfer TDA has to come up with the certs to give your new broker so maybe im okay w that
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Chart: Do you see a pull back coming? i want to buy more.
 
Posted by klondike on :
 
This thing continues to rise, seems like something is up. LL2 at 2.34.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
gonna break out again.....

I'd LOVE to know what's brewing!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
People on paltalk are saying you can pull up listing by cshd instead of furia!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Cassity, nice group of realtime DD'er aren't they.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Is this the long anticipated move to $54? Then Jenna and I will be able to retire to an island of our choice and sail the world with HER CSHD profits... c'mon $54.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
Chart: Do you see a pull back coming? i want to buy more.

don't have big charts up, I'm mobile...

But from what it looks like, doesn't look like we are going down much today...

Look like we are at a break out point now.

How do L2's look BOARD?.....
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
Chart: Do you see a pull back coming? i want to buy more.

don't have big charts up, I'm mobile...

But from what it looks like, doesn't look like we are going down much today...

Look like we are at a break out point now.

How do L2's look BOARD?.....

Is this pending news or a shake out attempt?
Guys...thoughts?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think it's real, and as soon as it becomes public LOOK OUT [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
2.35
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
gotta be pending news St. Mat, this is no head fake...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
If you want to be in this, I would move your a$$. JMO
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I think we were at a 7 day candle break out point and it seems we hit all the pump emails. The last hitting at 11:36.

We may just have the DT crowd back to be taken advantage of. Or real news. Dunno at this point.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yeesh, ,the girls didnt wanna show up today.

ok we're all here now!!!

CMOOOOOOON 50
YAY RAH RAH
FIFTY!!!!!!


 -
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
chart
B 2x2.34
A 2x2.35
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
2x2.34bid and 3x2.35ask
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
IMO... -with it holding at HOD we got something coming [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Ha ha Ryan.. [Big Grin]
Beat yah!
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
If you want to be in this, I would move your a$$. JMO

Funny, it was down at 1.85 and everyones complaining and nobodys buying...Now It's climbing and the peeps want more on a pullback? If you are willing to buy it on a pullback the same day it climbs has the thought process changed? Just buy the dang thing and wait. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
IMO... -with it holding at HOD we got something coming [Big Grin]

I tend to agree chart...just providing the complete picture above.
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yeesh, ,the girls didnt wanna show up today.

ok we're all here now!!!

CMOOOOOOON 50
YAY RAH RAH
FIFTY!!!!!!


 -

Ahah! One of my favorite females is in the house!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
it ran to $4 with that "little" 8k.

Wait till the peeps get a look at

"10k-ZILLA!" lol ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
It doesn't seem crazy enough to be dt's driving it up. I could be wrong though. I hope I'm not.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
I'm just upset cuz I had a buy order in at $1.80 and went to a meeting...when I came out, the stock had dropped to $1.81 and then shot up to $2.40.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
gonna run!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
It doesn't seem crazy enough to be dt's driving it up. I could be wrong though. I hope I'm not.

yes you did 10. Mine was more accurate at the time though [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
boy it goes fast when it goes...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
CMOOOOOOON 60
YAY RAH RAH
SIXTY!!!!!!


 -

wooot woooot
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Rufus did say to watch the market the other night. I guess he meant today. Interesting very interesting.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
BB get those cheerleaders ready for 2.50
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Hey Babe...is your Macys commercial national? I though I heard it over the weekend. I was in the other room and didn't see it. [Frown]

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yeesh, ,the girls didnt wanna show up today.

ok we're all here now!!!

CMOOOOOOON 50
YAY RAH RAH
FIFTY!!!!!!


 -


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
We're getting lots of support at 2.46
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yep St Matt. All of mine are nationals [Smile]

you can see it again on Veterans Day.

while you're kickin back with your CSHD windfall...
 
Posted by portman on :
 
We were too stable in the 1.80's for me. I had to add.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
I have yet to see the BB commercial here in SoCal.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
L2's are lookin' better...whoo hoo...c'mon..baby...
 
Posted by portman on :
 
QUIN is back....I hate QUIN
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
$2.50 is a resting spot. Take a breath, reload and then off to $2.75

go go go
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
CMOOOOOOON 60
YAY RAH RAH
SIXTY!!!!!!


 -

yeehawwwwww giddy up yeaw yeawww
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Yes shouldnt last long here at 2.50. JMHO
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Watching silently... things looking good.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
you guys want to hear an off the wall theory. No oh well here it goes anyway [Big Grin]
On our last runup we started from about 1.00 level and then went up what like 300% to 4.00. Now we're sitting at a base of what roughly 2.00 now if we go up another 300% we'll be at like 8 bucks [Big Grin] I don't think that's what happening but just thought I'd throw that out there.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Sorry I missed it...sure it was greatness!

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yep St Matt. All of mine are nationals [Smile]

you can see it again on Veterans Day.

while you're kickin back with your CSHD windfall...


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
you guys want to hear an off the wall theory. No oh well here it goes anyway [Big Grin]
On our last runup we started from about 1.00 level and then went up what like 300% to 4.00. Now we're sitting at a base of what roughly 2.00 now if we go up another 300% we'll be at like 8 bucks [Big Grin] I don't think that's what happening but just thought I'd throw that out there.

Thank you for that. Can I have the 8 seconds of my life back that it took to read it?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Any news?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
nope that's exactly why I did it [Big Grin] I hope they were an important 8sec.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
dog...you're not in jail...

did you get the transfer?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
2.60s coming fast
 
Posted by ClayN on :
 
No, you can't. Don't like it don't read CSHD's thread. Pretty simple.

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
you guys want to hear an off the wall theory. No oh well here it goes anyway [Big Grin]
On our last runup we started from about 1.00 level and then went up what like 300% to 4.00. Now we're sitting at a base of what roughly 2.00 now if we go up another 300% we'll be at like 8 bucks [Big Grin] I don't think that's what happening but just thought I'd throw that out there.

Thank you for that. Can I have the 8 seconds of my life back that it took to read it?

 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Got 1,500 more at $2.50...sux, but I will not be complaining when this is at $100 per share... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Portman...what pump emails are you talking about?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
REPO - behave!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
matt... you're still up! we'll see $3 very soon imo ~
 
Posted by portman on :
 
10, I consider any email that has a list of stocks pump email....not necessarily paid for. They are all listed on the TDA site.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
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Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Portman!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wait till our 10k comes out and the public gets to see what we already have looked at!

Come on get that filing out!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
matt... you're still up! we'll see $3 very soon imo ~

I'm in at an average of about $1.50 after that buy. Feeling ok about that. Wish I had heard about this when you guys did when it was .50 cents.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
hey board...

"Let's go UP AGAIN!!" [Big Grin]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
CMOOOOOOON 70
YAY RAH RAH
7TY!!!!!!


 -

cmoooooooon lucky sevenzzzzzz
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Repo...

Do you have anything for neck pain?....

"Ive bee LOOKING UP so much today!" LOL ~
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Repo...

Do you have anything for neck pain?....

"Ive bee LOOKING UP so much today!" LOL ~

lmao
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Repo...

Do you have anything for neck pain?....

"Ive bee LOOKING UP so much today!" LOL ~

That's a good one!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Almost as good as yours ~ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
dog did you transfer? im in the process w choice trade right now
 
Posted by portman on :
 
QUIN controlling
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
man, no news and this things red hot!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Remember, QUIN is a notorious shortseller. Maybe he's covering.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
We need to break thru this 2.58
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
we gotta break that $2.58!

Come on $3!!!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I am still buying the head fake at this point. Unless the waatle shares just hit the market today. They can't really effectively cover without some real shares.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
LMAO 10!! ha ~

-I'll just be quiet now! [Big Grin]

hey where's our buddy rat!?..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
HOD again!

Come on BABY!!!!!!!

YES!! LOOK OUT! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I might buy a cover by QUIN repo.

This could be the beginning of F your neighbor...But I still think it could be a raise the emotions play then drop it hard just before news after market.

The volume is still thin.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
C'mon push through...and keep goin'!!!
 
Posted by Tyraid on :
 
2.64 moving again
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Right when I say that volume walks right up to the door... sheesh.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
The volume is so low for this movement. They are walking it up as easily as it was walked down in the first place.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
that's ok port that's how this stock seems to work. as soon as you type something you realize it's already happened [Smile]
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
this baby is hot today!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
This is all because Doniboy's daughter was born. See in the past I said his daughter needed to be born before we could take off.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well it doesn't get any better for doni today. I brand new baby girl and a pps on the rise. What else can you ask for.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
well we retested that 2.58 point, so we can go higher now! Hope so..
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
This is all because Doniboy's daughter was born. See in the past I said his daughter needed to be born before we could take off.

GLTA
Wally

Thats right the MMs felt sorry for him. They must know how much diapers cost. [Big Grin] Congrats Doni... by the way.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
spoke to soon?!

Come on hold !!

-if this holds on NO news....(wow)
 
Posted by portman on :
 
shake and bake
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
MONSTER WALL at 2.75area...

Get by that and we are lookin good...

Hi Everybody!!!!!! and repo!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
maybe I should repeat it ( I was the first to say congrats!)

but congrads AGAIN Doni"man" LOL [Big Grin]

So much for a slow lunch today ~ ha ~~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jeese...it sure does turn quick...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
When ever I see us moving up during lunch is always a good sign to me.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
hey rat [Big Grin]
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
When ever I see us moving up during lunch is always a good sign to me.

that´s what i thought too
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ok...show's over folks...back to your regularly scheduled semi-wet paint drying contest... [Razz]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
now we need to SEE the news....

Then take the other half of our trip! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Tyraid on :
 
Well good luck every one. Off to work...hopefully there is good news just sucks im gonna miss it.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
CMOOOOOOON 70
YAY RAH RAH
7TY!!!!!!

 -

cmoooooooon lucky sevenzzzzzz cmoooooon
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
ok, here you got your lunchdip
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks like we have support at 2.50 intraday.
 
Posted by Bittermac on :
 
I like Chart's calling it the 10K-Zilla. Stomping thru the MM's Tokyo. It is the right positive mental image to have at this point.

Where would the first news of the 10K be filed?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Hello guys, what happened today? I don't see any news and Ihub is useless....
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hey Doni...we are still trying to figure that out...we are assuming that it was the birth of your daughter that ran this...it's the only explanation at this point....
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I don't know your wife had a baby. I'd say that's something [Big Grin] Other than that doni we just took off no reason right now why it happened. Congrats again
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
http://www.vandham.com/Quality.html

Soft-dollar sales
Third party research
Institutional Sales and Trading
Connectivity to Buy and Sell side order management systems
"""Nasdaq Market Making"""
Nasdaq Agency Trading
Program Trading
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================

New MM guys?!!

VNDM?!!!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thecon00:
dog did you transfer? im in the process w choice trade right now

Transfer complete tomorrow.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
NEW MM's on L2's?....
is BKRT new also?...

how about FTGI?...

Think that's our news!!

Going to the NAZ!!!!
-sure looks like it IMO ~~
 
Posted by Synastar1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by thecon00:
dog did you transfer? im in the process w choice trade right now

Transfer complete tomorrow.
Amazing what happens once you bring out the "L" word.
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
Ok, someone explain what the "Waatle Shares" refers to please.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
These jerks know everything before we do.

No such thing as insider info...yeah right.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
support 2.46 2.43
 
Posted by Bittermac on :
 
Last Trade: 2.50
Trade Time: 1:10PM ET
Change: 0.60 (31.58%)
Prev Close: 1.90
Open: 1.88
Bid: 2.47 x 500
Ask: 2.50 x 500
1y Target Est: N/A

Day's Range: 1.81 - 2.64
52wk Range: 0.04 - 1.67
Volume: 1,784,902
Avg Vol (3m): 2,878,270
Market Cap: 58.23M
P/E (ttm): 6.61
EPS (ttm): 0.38
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
 
Posted by li on :
 
damn, wrong day to sleep in, what are we moving on here?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Stochastic looking up!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
NEW MM's on L2's?....
is BKRT new also?...

how about FTGI?...

Think that's our news!!

Going to the NAZ!!!!
-sure looks like it IMO ~~

I don't have L2's...has anyone seen those mm's before today?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Lets roll it again... Heck the entrance of the new MMs could have sparked that run, who know we may have another intstitution?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
they don't sound familiar to me.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
pulled up charts, I'll run them till I freeze up again ~ [Smile]

all pos!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
well, the new MM's would fit what Rufus was talking about with "Watch the Market!"
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
lunchbreak over soon!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
with the right news we could see $5 EOD!
IMO [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spooky:
Ok, someone explain what the "Waatle Shares" refers to please.

bump
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
well, the new MM's would fit what Rufus was talking about with "Watch the Market!"

could be. do we have anyway of finding out when these mm's started trading cshd?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
call and ask?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spooky:
quote:
Originally posted by Spooky:
Ok, someone explain what the "Waatle Shares" refers to please.

bump
cvsu.us web site has a link...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Spooky, go take a look at CVSU.us...on the left side...it shows what the daela is with the wattle shares...
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Spooky, go take a look at CVSU.us...on the left side...it shows what the daela is with the wattle shares...

Why is this spooky?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Spooky, go take a look at CVSU.us...on the left side...it shows what the daela is with the wattle shares...

Hasn't then been there for a while now?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
with the right news we could see $5 EOD!
IMO [Big Grin]

Gunna have to get past 2.80 and 3.10 first...... Good resistance at those levels...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
first we have to get news [Big Grin] I don't like seeing arca trying to dump a decent size lot of shares.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
damn, wrong day to sleep in, what are we moving on here?

Nothing that we know of... err... all that we know of. I dunno.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Spooky, go take a look at CVSU.us...on the left side...it shows what the daela is with the wattle shares...

Why is this spooky?
LOL!!!!


Spooky is a person Nel!!!
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Spooky, go take a look at CVSU.us...on the left side...it shows what the daela is with the wattle shares...

Why is this spooky?
NEL Spooky posts here.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
first we have to get news [Big Grin] I don't like seeing arca trying to dump a decent size lot of shares.

ARCA dumping? Or teasing the ask?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL...sorry NEL...Spooky is a poster that asked what was going on with the wattle shares...


quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Spooky, go take a look at CVSU.us...on the left side...it shows what the daela is with the wattle shares...

Why is this spooky?

 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
only 3 indicators pos now (positive)
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
he was sitting at the ask for a few and then somebody dropped the ask down. So I'm not sure, usually when I see arca trying to drop a good sized lot we tend to drop.imo
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
From HSM:
quote:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
النصر لك


Now is the time for everyone to hold strong. We are so close to what we have all been waiting for. That is why the market is building up momentum. For everyone that has not asked for the share certificates remember to put them on the offer at very high prices GTC so they are also taken out of circulation from the market makers. I hope also no one is trying to daytrade today because if we are this close now anyone who is daytrading is only helping the shorts and also may be left out of the bigger picture. Let us all make it as difficult for the market makers by not letting them have any shares which they can borrow for their short positions. We will win this battle and what is rightfully ours will be ours.

You are either with or without today.
You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish.

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash
الصمت احيانا ضروري. بعض الانبياء المزيفين عندما اتكلم كثيرا وان لم يتكلم. كل شيء سيكون علي كشف لكم وسيكون النصر لكم.


 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
when did Tut post that?
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
that's funny, TUT really has no credence in my eyes anymore... but, I do believe we are close
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
when did Tut post that?

He posted that just a while ago I think.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
1:33 PM today
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
when did Tut post that?

http://www.hot stock market.com/forums/showpost.php?p=784923&postcount=14444

that should link to the post
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think EOD will be something great today!! [Smile]

Indicators shaping up for a EOD run IMO
 
Posted by Synastar1 on :
 
Tut lost a lot of his mystique by going on subpenny.
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
sorry Spooky, hard to keep up with all of the posters here!
Laugh at myself!
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
Dog,

Whom did you transfer to? and why were they your choice. I hope choicetrade is okay i just finished up with them an hour ago and the transfer should be done in 1-2days.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
all POS again...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spooky:
Ok, someone explain what the "Waatle Shares" refers to please.

Waatle was the name of the company when it first began. When Rufus and Ben met up they started CVSU, which later became CSHC. Rufus had stated they needed all the Waatle shareholders to transfer their certs into CSHD certs. That's what we have been waiting for. It is complete according to Rufus. We are now ready to proceed. I hope this helps. GLTY
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
sorry Spooky, hard to keep up with all of the posters here!
Laugh at myself!

No problem, brough a chuckle to the surface for me too.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thecon00:
Dog,

Whom did you transfer to? and why were they your choice. I hope choicetrade is okay i just finished up with them an hour ago and the transfer should be done in 1-2days.

Merrill Lynch
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
arca loading up?
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I think EOD will be something great today!! [Smile]

Indicators shaping up for a EOD run IMO

agreed, chart looks great
and it´s starting already!
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
okay folks,
what does "bump" mean?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
bump = to the top = brings a post back up...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by thecon00:
Dog,

Whom did you transfer to? and why were they your choice. I hope choicetrade is okay i just finished up with them an hour ago and the transfer should be done in 1-2days.

Merrill Lynch
Cuz Rufus said so... and it's too much money to trust with discount broker. IMO
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
gotta grab some chow!

brb ~
Don't wanna miss thie EOD!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
bump = to the top = brings a post back up...

thank you!!! [Smile]
 
Posted by li on :
 
I'm hoping for EOD as well, but you gotta figure this will continue through thurs. at least as it did two weeks ago when the deadline neared, daytraders will want to play the impending news IMO...

BxA spread was huge there for a min. MMs picking up shares to move it?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
ahhh just got back. you guys are doing great!!!

Still no news???
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think we'll go to $3++++++. This could be it folks. I know I'm ready.
 
Posted by li on :
 
2pm - 3pm is painful to watch, I wish it was 3 right now with this day, we'd be primed...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
My guess for EOD is : 2.86
 
Posted by li on :
 
have the links down the left side of cvsu.us always been CSHC and not CSHD?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Something big is going to happen! Just a feelin!
 
Posted by li on :
 
I could live with 2.86, I think we'll see at least 3.50 by thurs.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
If we get over 3.10 or so......no resistace till like 5.15+ [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
when did Tut post that?

He posted that just a while ago I think.
It was posted at 12:33pm today. He has also responded to 2 PM's that I have sent to him today...very positive stuff.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
seems like it's channeling in the 2.55-2.60 range hopefully it's setting up for an upwards explosion.
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
quote:
Originally posted by thecon00:
Dog,

Whom did you transfer to? and why were they your choice. I hope choicetrade is okay i just finished up with them an hour ago and the transfer should be done in 1-2days.

Merrill Lynch
Cuz Rufus said so... and it's too much money to trust with discount broker. IMO
Hey Dog,

I was trying to find out what their commision structure was like on their site but I couldnt find it. Do you know it?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
does anyone here know how to unlock a PDF...

sorry for the unrelated stuff...i have one that won't let me share though...
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
have the links down the left side of cvsu.us always been CSHC and not CSHD?

since the name change, yes.

CSHC is the obriviation for the Co.
CSHD is our ticker.

I find it odd too, but makes sense, kinda.lol
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
when did Tut post that?

He posted that just a while ago I think.
It was posted at 12:33pm today. He has also responded to 2 PM's that I have sent to him today...very positive stuff.
Care to share?? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Spooky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
does anyone here know how to unlock a PDF...

sorry for the unrelated stuff...i have one that won't let me share though...

check your PMs in a sec
 
Posted by li on :
 
Here's your "unsettled funds" info Dog:

https://help.scottrade.com/C13/BasicsofInvesting/Document Library/Unsettled_Funds_-_Trading_in_Cash_Accounts.htm

https://help.scottrade.com/C14/CashAccounts/Document Library/Unsettled_Funds_-_Trading_in_Cash_Accounts.htm

copy the whole line and paste... should work
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
thanks spooky...

at least we have new support at 2.50 or so...i'm happy with that...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Danny_K:
quote:
Originally posted by li:
have the links down the left side of cvsu.us always been CSHC and not CSHD?

since the name change, yes.

CSHC is the obriviation for the Co.
CSHD is our ticker.

I find it odd too, but makes sense, kinda.lol

Danny_K...

The ticker CSHC is already assigned to an outfit called Cash Can...or sumpthin like that .... That is why they went with CSHD
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
From HSM:

#14444
tutankhamen
HSM Regular


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 244 النصر لك


Now is the time for everyone to hold strong. We are so close to what we have all been waiting for. That is why the market is building up momentum. For everyone that has not asked for the share certificates remember to put them on the offer at very high prices GTC so they are also taken out of circulation from the market makers. I hope also no one is trying to daytrade today because if we are this close now anyone who is daytrading is only helping the shorts and also may be left out of the bigger picture. Let us all make it as difficult for the market makers by not letting them have any shares which they can borrow for their short positions. We will win this battle and what is rightfully ours will be ours.

You are either with or without today.
You who have stood strong, yours is the victory cup to drink of.

Those who stand before me will live. Those who stand with their backs to me will surely perish.

ya KHabar befloos, bukrah yeb'a bebalash
الصمت احيانا ضروري. بعض الانبياء المزيفين عندما اتكلم كثيرا وان لم يتكلم. كل شيء سيكون علي كشف لكم وسيكون النصر لكم.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I thought Tut was just a normal guy, like Chartwalker posing as Tut? Why do you keep posting his Al Queda messages?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ARE WE HALTED [Big Grin]

sorry couldn't resist
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
hey just in time 3 of 4 positve again [Big Grin]
 
Posted by kXsToCkKiD on :
 
Man did i miss out, i thought the stock might go a bit below 1.85 this morning, so i sold about 70% of my shares to protect capital and ride some freebies. About 5 minutes after wouldn't you know, back up over 2.25! ahhhh
 
Posted by beatheodds on :
 
This guy is something else, "i hope no one is trying to day trade" LOL!!!!

Why do I have the feeling of a cult leader preaching to us? Today is the day at hand, drink the cup of everlasting life (falls over after drinking)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ha ha ~ Repo.

Cause he bagged I believe every PR that we have had...

Don't know if he's a fly on the wall or wth...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Guys, is it just me or what.... the price or volume hasn't moved in a while. What's up?
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by St. Matthew:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
when did Tut post that?

He posted that just a while ago I think.
It was posted at 12:33pm today. He has also responded to 2 PM's that I have sent to him today...very positive stuff.
Care to share?? [Big Grin]
Nothing major...he was just very positive about this and feels it's all about to happen very soon. Thinks the rise today is the shorts starting to cover. He did ask me to keep in touch after this is over....that was cool [Cool]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I thought Tut was just a normal guy, like Chartwalker posing as Tut? Why do you keep posting his Al Queda messages?

Did you listen to him the other night on subpenny radio. If you would have, then you would be able to answer that question. He may not be an insider, but he is a wise investor. I don't care what anyone does. This is going to happen, I have NO doubt. GLTY repo.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Never mind.


quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys, is it just me or what.... the price or volume hasn't moved in a while. What's up?


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys, is it just me or what.... the price or volume hasn't moved in a while. What's up?

Some markets orders just wemt thru... see them?..
 
Posted by Bittermac on :
 
Tut has stated before that his background is in the market and bringing new companies out. With a long term financial background like that, he could be recognizing things that seem like no big deal to us and making better educated guesses.

Also, got a question. Where will the 10K posting first show up on the web?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bittermac:
Tut has stated before that his background is in the market and bringing new companies out. With a long term financial background like that, he could be recognizing things that seem like no big deal to us and making better educated guesses.

Also, got a question. Where will the 10K posting first show up on the web?

try this, just keep refreshing. A new 10k comes up every hour or so, nothin' from CSHD yet though.

http://access.edgar-online.com/
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys, is it just me or what.... the price or volume hasn't moved in a while. What's up?

Some markets orders just wemt thru... see them?..
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Nite's 2.45 on the bid but 2.57 on the ask. Looks like they are trying to make a killing (.12) on the spread ?? Does that strike anyone else as being a little out of whack??
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bittermac:
Tut has stated before that his background is in the market and bringing new companies out. With a long term financial background like that, he could be recognizing things that seem like no big deal to us and making better educated guesses.

Also, got a question. Where will the 10K posting first show up on the web?

I heard Rufus has been in contact with Mark Cuban...you don't suppose Tut is Mark Cuban?!?!?!? LMAO
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wtf is with my double post?...
oh well...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Guys, is it just me or what.... the price or volume hasn't moved in a while. What's up?

Some markets orders just wemt thru... see them?..
I see it changing Chart. I don't see all the detailed things that you see though.. & if I did I probably wouldn't know what the heck I was looking at that's why I cling on your coat tails. HAHA
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Chart, maybe your just excited! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Damn CSHD couldn't wait one more day til my funds cleared.... oh well.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
wtf is with my double post?...
oh well...

Too many Jack an Cokes , Walker???
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
here you go guys see if you can find anything relavant.

The Trilateral Commission

September 2006

*Executive Committee




THOMAS S. FOLEY PETER SUTHERLAND YOTARO KOBAYASHI

North American Chairman European Chairman Pacific Asia Chairman


ALLAN E. GOTLIEB HERVÉ DE CARMOY HAN SUNG-JOO

North American European Pacific Asia

Deputy Chairman Deputy Chairman Deputy Chairman


LORENZO H. ZAMBRANO ANDRZEJ OLECHOWSKI SHIJURO OGATA

North American European Pacific Asia

Deputy Chairman Deputy Chairman Deputy Chairman


DAVID ROCKEFELLER

Founder and Honorary Chairman


PAUL A. VOLCKER GEORGES BERTHOIN OTTO GRAF LAMBSDORFF

North American Honorary Chairman European Honorary Chairman European Honorary Chairman


***

MICHAEL J. O'NEIL PAUL RÉVAY TADASHI YAMAMOTO

North American Director European Director Pacific Asia Director



European Group


**In Public Service


Paul Adams, Chief Executive, British American Tobacco, London

Urban Ahlin, Member of the Swedish Parliament and Chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs, Stockholm

Krister Ahlström, Vice Chairman, Stora Enso and Fortum; former Chairman, Finnish Employers Confederation; former Chairman, Ahlström Corp., Helsinki

Edmond Alphandéry, Chairman, Caisse Nationale de Prévoyance, Paris; former Chairman, Electricité de France (EDF); former Minister of the Economy and Finance

Jacques Andréani, Ambassadeur de France, Paris; former Ambassador to the United States

*Stelios Argyros, Chairman and Managing Director, Preveza Mills, Athens; former Member of the European Parliament; former Vice President of UNICE, Brussels; former President and Chairman of the Board of the Federation of Greek Industries, Athens

Jerzy Baczynski, Editor-in-Chief, Polityka, Warsaw

Estela Barbot, Director, AGA; Director, Bank Santander Negocios; Member of the General Council, AEP -- Portuguese Business Association, Porto; General Honorary Consul of Guatemala, Lisbon

*Erik Belfrage, Senior Vice President, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken; Director, Investor AB, Stockholm

Marek Belka, Executive Secretary, United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE), Geneva; former Prime Minister of Poland, Warsaw; former Ambassador-at-Large and Chairman, Council for International Coordination, Coalition Provisional Authority, Baghdad

Baron Jean-Pierre Berghmans, Chairman of the Executive Board, Lhoist Group, Limelette, Belgium

*Georges Berthoin, International Honorary Chairman, European Movement; Honorary Chairman, The Jean Monnet Association; Honorary European Chairman, The Trilateral Commission, Paris

Nicolas Beytout, Editor, Le Figaro, Paris ; former Editor, Les Echos, Paris

Carl Bildt, Chairman, Kreab Group of public affairs companies; Chairman, Nordic Venture Network, Stockholm; former Member of the Swedish Parliament, Chairman of the Moderate Party and Prime Minister of Sweden; former European Union High Representative in Bosnia-Herzegovina & UN Special Envoy to the Balkans

Ana Patricia Botin, Executive Chairman, Banesto; Vice Chairman, Urbis; Member of the Management Committee, Santander Group, Madrid

Jean-Louis Bourlanges, Member of the European Parliament (ALDE Group/UDF) and Chairman, Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs, Brussels; former President of the European Movement in France, Paris

*Jorge Braga de Macedo, President, Tropical Research Institute, Lisbon; Special Advisor to the Secretary General, Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Paris; Professor of Economics, Nova University at Lisbon; Chairman, Forum Portugal Global; former Minister of Finance

Lord Brittan of Spennithorne, Vice Chairman, UBS Investment Bank, London; former Vice President, European Commission

Jean-Louis Bruguière, First Magistrate and First Vice President of the Paris County Court

Robin Buchanan, Senior Partner, Bain & Company, London

*François Bujon de l'Estang, Ambassadeur de France; Chairman, Citigroup France, Paris; former Ambassador to the United States

Edelgard Bulmahn, Member of the German Bundestag and Chairwoman of the Committee on Economic Affairs; former Federal Minister, Berlin

Sven Burmester, Writer and Explorer, Denmark; former Representative, United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), Beijing; former World Bank Deputy Secretary and Representative in Cairo

Richard Burrows, Governor, Bank of Ireland; Director, Pernod Ricard; Chairman, the Scotch Whisky Association; former President, IBEC (The Irish Business and Employers Confederation), Dublin

*Hervé de Carmoy, Chairman, Almatis, Frankfurt-am-Main; former Partner, Rhône Group, New York & Paris; Honorary Chairman, Banque Industrielle et Mobilière Privée, Paris; former Chief Executive, Société Générale de Belgique

Antonio Carrapatoso, Chairman of the Board of Directors, Vodafone Portugal, Lisbon; Member of the Board of Directors, Vodafone Spain & Vodacom

Salvatore Carrubba, Director of Strategies and Columnist, Il Sole 24 Ore, Milan; former Culture Alderman, Municipality of Milan

Henri de Castries, Chairman of the Management Board and Chief Executive Officer, AXA, Paris

Carme Chacon Piqueras, First Vice-President of the Spanish Parliament, Madrid

Jürgen Chrobog, Chairman, BMW Herbert Quandt Foundation, Munich; former German Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to the United States

Luc Coene, Minister of State; Deputy Governor, National Bank of Belgium, Brussels

Sir Ronald Cohen, Founding partner and Executive Chairman, Apax Partners Worldwide, London

Bertrand Collomb, Chairman, Lafarge, Paris; Chairman, World Business Council for Sustainable Development

*Richard Conroy, Chairman, Conroy Diamonds & Gold, Dublin; Member of Senate, Republic of Ireland

Eckhard Cordes, Chief Executive Officer, Franz Haniel & Cie, Duisburg; former Member of the Board, DaimlerChrysler, Stuttgart

Alfonso Cortina, Chairman, Inmobiliaria Colonial; Chairman, Repsol-YPF Foundation, Madrid

Eduardo Costa, Executive Vice Chairman, Banco Finantia, Lisbon; Member, Forum Portugal Global

Michel David-Weill, Former Chairman, Lazard LLC, worldwide; Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Eurazeo, Paris

Baron Paul De Keersmaeker, Chairman of the Board of Domo, Corgo, Foundation Europalia International and the Canada Europe Round Table, Brussels; Honorary Chairman Interbrew, KBC, Nestlé Belgilux; former Member of the Belgian and European Parliaments and of the Belgian Government

*Vladimir Dlouhy, Senior Advisor, ABB; International Advisor, Goldman Sachs; former Czechoslovak Minister of Economy; former Czech Minister of Industry & Trade, Prague

*Bill Emmott, Former Editor, The Economist, London

Thomas Enders, Chief Executive Officer, EADS, Munich; Chairman, Atlantik-Brücke (Atlantic Bridge), Berlin

Pedro Miguel Echenique, Professor of Physics, University of the Basque Country; President, Foundation Donostia International Physic Center (DIPC); former Basque Minister of Education, San Sebastian

Laurent Fabius, Member of the French National Assembly and of the Foreign Affairs Committee; former Prime Minister & Minister of the Economy & Finance, Paris

Oscar Fanjul, Honorary Chairman, Repsol YPF; Vice Chairman, Omega Capital, Madrid

Grete Faremo, Director of Law and Corporate Affairs for Western Europe, Microsoft; former Executive Vice President, Storebrand; former Norwegian Minister of Development Cooperation, Minister of Justice and Minister of Oil and Energy, Oslo

*Nemesio Fernandez-Cuesta, Executive Director of Upstream, Repsol-YPF; former Chairman, Prensa Española, Madrid

Jürgen Fitschen, Member of the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank, Frankfurt-am-Main

Klaus-Dieter Frankenberger, Foreign Editor, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Frankfurt am Main

Hugh Friel, Chief Executive, Kerry Group, Tralee, Co. Kerry, Ireland

Lykke Friis, Director of European Affairs, Federation of Danish Industries, Copenhagen

*Michael Fuchs, Member of the German Bundestag, Berlin; former President, National Federation of German Wholesale & Foreign Trade

Lord Garel-Jones, Managing Director, UBS Investment Bank, London; Member of the House of Lords; former Minister of State at the Foreign Office (European Affairs)

*Antonio Garrigues Walker, Chairman, Garrigues Abogados y Asesores Tributarios, Madrid

Wolfgang Gerhardt, Member of the German Bundestag and Chairman of the Parliamentary Group of the Free Democratic Party; former State Minister, Berlin

Lord Gilbert, Member of the House of Lords; former Minister for Defence, London

Esther Giménez-Salinas, Rector, Ramon Llull University; Professor of Criminal Law, ESADE Law School, Ramon Llull University, Barcelone

Mario Greco, Chief Executive Officer, Eurizon Finantial Group; former Managing Director, RAS (Insurance), Milan

General The Lord Guthrie, Director, N M Rothschild & Sons, London; Member of the House of Lords; former Chief of the Defence Staff, London

Sirkka Hämäläinen, Former Member of the Executive Board, European Central Bank, Frankfurt-am-Main; former Governor, Bank of Finland

*Toomas Hendrik Ilves, Member of the European Parliament; former Estonian Foreign Minister and Member of the Parliament; former Ambassador to the United States, Canada and Mexico

Alfonso Iozzo, Managing Director, San Paolo IMI Group, Turin

*Mugur Isarescu, Governor, National Bank of Romania, Bucharest; former Prime Minister

*Baron Daniel Janssen, Chairman of the Board, Solvay, Brussels

Zsigmond Jarai, President, National Bank of Hungary, Budapest

Trinidad Jiménez, International Relations Secretary of the Socialist Party (PSOE) & Member of the Federal Executive Committee, Madrid

*Béla Kadar, Member of the Hungarian Academy, Budapest; Member of the Monetary Council of the National Bank; President of the Hungarian Economic Association; Former Ambassador of Hungary to the O.E.C.D., Paris; former Hungarian Minister of International Economic Relations and Member of Parliament

Robert Kassai, General Vice President, The National Association of Craftmen’ s Corporations, Budapest

*Lord Kerr of Kinlochard, Deputy Chairman and Senior Independent Non-executive Director of Royal Dutch Shell; Member of the House of Lords; Director of Rio Tinto, the Scottish American Investment Trust, London; former Secretary General, European Convention, Brussels; former Permanent Under-Secretary of State and Head of the Diplomatic Service, Foreign & Commonwealth Office, London; former British Ambassador to the United States

Denis Kessler, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Scor, Paris; former Chairman, French Insurance Association (FFSA); Former Executive Vice-Chairman, MEDEF-Mouvement des Entreprises de France (French Employers’ Confederation)

Klaus Kleinfeld, Chief Executive Officer, Siemens, Munich

*Sixten Korkman, Managing Director, The Research Institute of the Finnish Economy (ETLA) & Finnish Business and Policy Forum (EVA), Helsinki

Jiri Kunert, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Zivnostenska banka; President of the Czech Association of Banks, Prague

*Count Otto Lambsdorff, Partner, Wessing Lawyers, Düsseldorf; Chairman, Friedrich Naumann Foundation, Berlin; former Member of German Bundestag; Honorary Chairman, Free Democratic Party; former Federal Minister of Economy; former President of the Liberal International; Honorary European Chairman, The Trilateral Commission, Paris

Kurt Lauk, Member of the European Parliament (EPP Group-CDU); Chairman, Globe Capital Partners, Stuttgart; President, Economic Council of the CDU Party, Berlin; Former Member of the Board, DaimlerChrysler, Stuttgart

Anne Lauvergeon, Chairperson of the Executive Board, Areva; Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer, Cogema, Paris

Pierre Lellouche, Member of the French National Assembly and of the Foreign Affairs Committee, Paris; President, NATO Parliamentary Assembly

**Enrico Letta, Under State Secretary, Office of the Prime Minister, Italy; former Minister of European Affairs, Industry, and of Industry and International Trade, Rome

André Leysen, Honorary Chairman, Gevaert, Antwerp; Honorary Chairman, Agfa-Gevaert Group

Marianne Lie, Director General, Norwegian Shipowner’s Association, Oslo

Count Maurice Lippens, Chairman, Fortis, Brussels

Helge Lund, Chief Executive Officer of the Norwegian Oil Company, Statoil, Oslo

*Cees Maas, Vice Chairman and Chief Financial Officer of the ING Group, Amsterdam; former Treasurer of the Dutch Government

Peter Mandelson, Member of the European Commission (Trade), Brussels; former Member of the British Parliament; former Secretary of State to Northern Ireland and for Trade and Industry

Abel Matutes, Chairman, Empresas Matutes, Ibiza; former Member of the European Commission, Brussels; former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Madrid

Francis Maude, Member of the British Parliament; Chairman of the Conservative Party; Director, Benfield Group; former Shadow Foreign Secretary, London

Joao de Menezes Ferreira, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, ECO-SOROS, Lisbon; former Member of the Portuguese Parliament

Peter Mitterbauer, Honorary President, The Federation of Austrian Industry, Vienna; President and Chief Executive Officer, Miba, Laakirchen

Mario Monti, President and Professor Emeritus, Bocconi University, Milan; Chairman of BRUEGEL and of ECAS, Brussels; former Member of the European Commission (Competition Policy)

Dominique Moïsi, Special Advisor to the Director General of the French Institute for International Relations (IFRI), Paris

Luca Cordero di Montezemolo, Chairman, Fiat, Turin; Chairman, Confindustria (Italian Confederation of Industry), Rome

Sir Mark Moody-Stuart, Chairman, Anglo American; former Chairman, Royal Dutch/Shell Group, London

Klaus-Peter Müller, Chairman of the Board of Managing Directors, Commerzbank, Frankfurt-am-Main; President, Association of German Banks (BDB), Berlin

Heinrich Neisser, Former President, Politische Akademie, Vienna; Professor of Political Sciences at Innsbruck University; former Member of Austrian Parliament and Second President of the National Assembly

Harald Norvik, Chairman and Partner, ECON Management; former President and Chief Executive, Statoil, Oslo

Arend Oetker, President, German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP); Vice Chairman, Federation of German Industries; Managing Director, Dr. Arend Oetker Holding, Berlin

*Andrzej Olechowski, Founder, Civic Platform; Former Chairman, Bank Handlowy; former Minister of Foreign Affairs and of Finance, Warsaw

Richard Olver, Chairman, BAE Systems, London

Janusz Palikot, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Polmos Lublin; Vice President, Polish Confederation of Private Employers; Co-owner, Publishing House slowo/obraz terytoria; Member of the Board of Directors, Polish Business Council, Warsaw

Dimitry Panitza, Founding Chairman, The Free and Democratic Bulgaria Foundation; Founder and Chairman, The Bulgarian School of Politics, Sofia

Lucas Papademos, Vice President, European Central Bank, Frankfurt-am-Main; former Governor of the Bank of Greece

Lord Patten of Barnes, Chancellor of the University of Oxford; Chairman, International Crisis Group, Brussels; former Member of the European Commission (External Relations), Brussels; former Governor of Hong Kong; former Member of the British Cabinet, London

Volker Perthes, Director, SWP (German Institute for International and Security Affairs), Berlin

Dieter Pfundt, Personally Liable Partner, Sal. Oppenheim Bank, Frankfurt

Josep Piqué, Chairman of the Popular Party of Catalunya, Barcelona; Member of the Parliament of Catalunya; Member of the Spanish Senate; former Minister of Foreign Affairs

Benoît Potier, Chairman of the Management Board, L’Air Liquide, Paris

Alessandro Profumo, Chief Executive Officer, UniCredito Italiano, Milan

Luigi Ramponi, Member of the Italian Senate; former Chairman of the Defence Committee of the Chamber of Deputies, Rome; former Deputy Chief of the Defence Staff (Italian Army)

Wanda Rapaczynska, President of the Management Board, Agora, Warsaw

Heinz Riesenhuber, Member of the German Bundestag; former Federal Minister of Research and Technology, Berlin; Chairman of the Supervisory Boards of Kabel Deutschland and of Evotec

Gianfelice Rocca, Chairman, Techint Group of Companies, Milan; Vice President, Confindustria, Rome

H. Onno Ruding, Chairman, Centre for European Policy Studies (CEPS), Brussels; Former Vice Chairman, Citibank; former Dutch Minister of Finance

Anthony Ruys, Former Chairman of the Executive Board, Heineken, Amsterdam

Ferdinando Salleo, Vice Chairman, MCC (Mediocredito Centrale), Rome; former Ambassador to the United States

Jacques Santer, Honorary State Minister, Luxembourg; former Member of the European Parliament; former President of the European Commission; former Prime Minister of Luxembourg

*Silvio Scaglia, Chairman, Fastweb; former Managing Director, Omnitel, Milan

Paolo Scaroni, Chief Executive Officer, ENI, Rome

*Guido Schmidt-Chiari, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Constantia Group; former Chairman, Creditanstalt Bankverein, Vienna

Henning Schulte-Noelle, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Allianz, Munich

Prince Charles of Schwarzenberg, Founder and Director, Nadace Bohemiae, Prague; Member of the Czech Senate; former Chancellor to President Havel; former President of the International Helsinki Federation for Human Rights

*Carlo Secchi, Professor of European Economic Policy and former Rector, Bocconi University; Vice President, ISPI, Milan; former Member of the Italian Senate and of the European Parliament

*Tøger Seidenfaden, Editor-in-Chief, Politiken, Copenhagen

Maurizio Sella, Chairman, Gruppo Banca Sella, Biella; former Chairman, Association of Italian Banks (A.B.I.), Rome

Slawomir S. Sikora, Chief Executive Officer and Citigroup Country Officer for Poland, Bank Handlowy w Warszawie, Warsaw

Stefano Silvestri, President, Institute for International Affairs (IAI), Rome; Commentator, Il Sole 24 Ore; former Under Secretary of State for Defence, Italy

Lord Simon of Highbury, Member of the House of Lords; Advisory Director of Unilever, Morgan Stanley Europe and LEK; former Minister for Trade & Competitiveness in Europe; former Chairman of BP, London

Nicholas Soames, Member of the British Parliament, London

Sir Martin Sorrell, Chief Executive Officer, WPP Group, London

Myles Staunton, Former Member of the Irish Senate & of the Dail; Consultant, Westport, Co. Mayo

*Thorvald Stoltenberg, President, Norwegian Red Cross, Oslo; former Co-Chairman (UN) of the Steering Committee of the International Conference on Former Yugoslavia; former Foreign Minister of Norway; former UN High Commissioner for Refugees

*Petar Stoyanov, Former President of the Republic of Bulgaria; Member of Bulgarian Parliament; Chairman of Parliamentary Group of United Democratic Forces; Chairman of Union of Democratic Forces, Sofia

Peter Straarup, Chairman of the Executive Board, Danske Bank, Copenhagen; Chairman, the Danish Bankers Association

*Peter Sutherland, Chairman, BP p.l.c.; Chairman, Goldman Sachs International; Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General for Migrations; former Director General, GATT/WTO; former Member of the European Commission; former Attorney General of Ireland

Björn Svedberg, Former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Ericsson, Stockholm; former President and Group Chief Executive, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken

Pavel Telicka, Partner, BXL-Consulting, Prague

Jean-Philippe Thierry, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, AGF (Assurances Générales de France), Paris

Lady Barbara Thomas Judge, Chairman, UKAEA (United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority); former U.S. Securities Exchange Commissioner

Marco Tronchetti Provera, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Pirelli & C., Milan; Deputy Chairman, Confindustria, Rome; former Chairman, Telecom Italia

Elsbeth Tronstad, Executive Director, Confederation of Norwegian Enterprise (NH0); former Vice President, ABB, Oslo

Loukas Tsoukalis, Special Adviser to the President of the European Commission; Professor at the University of Athens and the College of Europe; President of the Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy (ELIAMEP), Athens

Mario Vargas Llosa, Writer and Member of the Royal Spanish Academy, Madrid

*George Vassiliou, Former Head of the Negotiating Team for the Accession of Cyprus to the European Union; former President of the Republic of Cyprus; Former Member of Parliament and Leader of United Democrats, Nicosia

Franco Venturini, Senior Editorial Commentator on Foreign Affairs, Corriere della Sera, Rome

Friedrich Verzetnitsch, Former Member of Austrian Parliament; President, Austrian Federation of Trade Unions, Vienna; Former President, European Trade Union Confederation (ETUC)

*Marko Voljc, Chief Executive Officer, K & H Bank, Budapest; former General Manager of Central Europe Directorate, KBC Bank Insurance Holding, Brussels; former Chief Executive Officer, Nova Ljubljanska Banka, Ljubljana

Alexandr Vondra, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Prague; former Czech Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs

Joris Voorhoeve, Member of the Council of State; former Member of the Dutch Parliament; former Minister of Defence, The Hague

Panagis Vourloumis, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Hellenic Telecommunications Organization (O.T.E.), Athens

Marcus Wallenberg, Chairman of the Board, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken (SEB), Stockholm

*Serge Weinberg, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Accor; Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Weinberg Capital Partners; former Chairman of the Management Board, Pinault-Printemps-Redoute; former President, Institute of International and Strategic Studies (IRIS), Paris

Heinrich Weiss, Chairman, SMS, Düsseldorf; former Chairman, Federation of German Industries, Berlin

Nout Wellink, President, Dutch Central Bank, Amsterdam

Arne Wessberg, Director General, YLE (Finnish Broadcasting Company) and Director General, YLE Group (YLE and Digits Oy), Helsinki; President, European Broadcasting Union (EBU)

*Norbert Wieczorek, former Member of the German Bundestag & Deputy Chairman of the SPD Parliamentary Group, Berlin

Hans Wijers, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Akzo Nobel, Arnhem

Otto Wolff von Amerongen, Honorary Chairman, East Committee of the German Industry; Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Otto Wolff Industrieberatung und Beteiligung, Cologne

Emilio Ybarra, former Chairman, Banco Bilbao-Vizcaya, Madrid



Former Members in Public Service


John Bruton, European Union Ambassador & Head, Delegation of the European Commission to the United States

Lene Espersen, Minister of Justice, Denmark

Pedro Solbes, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Economy and Finances, Spain; former Member of the European Commission

Harri Tiido, Ambassador of Estonia and Head of the Estonian Mission to NATO, Brussels

Karsten D. Voigt, Coordinator of German-American Cooperation, Federal Foreign Ministry, Germany



North American Group


Madeleine K. Albright, Principal, The Albright Group LLC, Washington, DC; former U.S. Secretary of State

Graham Allison, Director, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

Michael H. Armacost, Shorenstein Distinguished Fellow, Asia/Pacific Research Center, Stanford University, Hillsborough, CA; former President, The Brookings Institution; former U.S. Ambassador to Japan; former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs

Richard L. Armitage, President, Armitage International LLC, Washington, DC; former U.S. Deputy

Secretary of State

James L. Balsillie, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer, Research in Motion, Ltd., Waterloo, ON

Charlene Barshefsky, Senior International Partner, Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering, Washington, DC; former U.S. Trade Representative

Alan R. Batkin, Vice Chairman, Kissinger Associates, New York, NY

Doug Bereuter, President, The Asia Foundation, San Francisco, CA; former Member, U.S. House of Representatives

*C. Fred Bergsten, Director, Institute for International Economics, Washington, DC; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs

Catherine Bertini, Professor of Public Administration, Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs, Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY; former Under-Secretary-General for Management, United Nations

Dennis C. Blair, USN (Ret.), Consultant and former President and Chief Executive Officer, Institute for Defense Analyses, Alexandria, VA; former Commander in Chief, U.S. Pacific Command

Herminio Blanco Mendoza, Private Office of Herminio Blanco, Mexico City, NL; former Mexican Secretary of Commerce and Industrial Development

Geoffrey T. Boisi, Chairman & Senior Partner, Roundtable Investment Partners LLC, New York, NY;

former Vice Chairman, JPMorgan Chase, New York, NY

Stephen W. Bosworth, Dean, Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, Tufts University, Medford, MA; former U.S. Ambassador to the Republic of Korea

David G. Bradley, Chairman, Atlantic Media Company, Washington, DC

Harold Brown, Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, DC; General Partner, Warburg Pincus & Company, New York, NY; former U.S. Secretary of Defense

*Zbigniew Brzezinski, Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, DC; Robert Osgood Professor of American Foreign Affairs, Paul Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University; former U.S. Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs

Louis C. Camilleri, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Altria Group, Inc., New York, NY

Raymond Chrétien, Strategic Advisor, Fasken Martineau DuMoulin LLP, Montreal, QC; Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Center for International Studies of the University of Montreal; former Associate Under-Secretary of State of External Affairs; former Ambassador of Canada to the Congo, Belgium, Mexico, the United States and France

William T. Coleman III, Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer, Cassatt Corporation;

Founder, former Chairman and CEO and Member, Board of Directors, BEA Systems, Inc., San Jose, CA

William T. Coleman, Jr., Senior Partner and the Senior Counselor, O’Melveny & Myers, Washington, DC; former U.S. Secretary of Transportation

Timothy C. Collins, Senior Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer, Ripplewood Holdings, New York, NY

Richard N. Cooper, Maurits C. Boas Professor of International Economics, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Chairman, U.S. National Intelligence Council; former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Economic Affairs

E. Gerald Corrigan, Managing Director, Goldman, Sachs & Co., New York, NY; former President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Michael J. Critelli, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Pitney Bowes Inc., Stamford, CT

Lee Cullum, former regular commentator, "NewsHour with Jim Lehrer," and columnist, Dallas, TX

Gerald L. Curtis, Burgess Professor of Political Science, Columbia University, New York, NY; Visiting Professor, Graduate Research Institute for Policy Studies, Tokyo

Douglas Daft, former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Coca Cola Company, Atlanta, GA

Lynn Davis, Senior Political Scientist, The RAND Corporation, Arlington, VA; former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security

Arthur A. DeFehr, President and Chief Executive Officer, Palliser Furniture, Winnipeg, MB

André Desmarais, President and Co-Chief Executive Officer, Power Corporation of Canada, Montréal, QC; Deputy Chairman, Power Financial Corporation

John M. Deutch, Institute Professor, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA; former Director of Central Intelligence; former U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense

Jamie Dimon, President and Chief Executive Officer, JPMorgan Chase & Co., New York, NY

Peter C. Dobell, Founding Director, Parliamentary Centre, Ottawa, ON

Wendy K. Dobson, Professor and Director, Institute for International Business, Rotman School of Management, University of Toronto, Toronto, ON; former Canadian Associate Deputy Minister of Finance

Kenneth M. Duberstein, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Duberstein Group, Washington, DC

Robert Eckert, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Mattel, Inc., El Segundo, CA

Jessica P. Einhorn, Dean, Paul Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, The Johns Hopkins University, Washington, DC; former Managing Director for Finance and Resource Mobilization, World Bank

Jeffrey Epstein, President, J. Epstein & Company, Inc., New York, NY; President, N.A. Property, Inc.

Dianne Feinstein, Member (D-CA), U.S. Senate

Martin S. Feldstein, George F. Baker Professor of Economics, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; President and Chief Executive Officer, National Bureau of Economic Research; former U.S.Chairman, President’s Council of Economic Advisors

Roger W. Ferguson, Jr., Chairman, Swiss Re America Holding Corporation, Washington, DC; former Vice Chairman, Board of Governors, U.S. Federal Reserve System

Stanley Fischer, Governor of the Bank of Israel, Jerusalem; former President, Citigroup International and Vice Chairman, Citgroup, New York, NY; former First Deputy Managing Director, International Monetary Fund

Richard W. Fisher, President and Chief Executive Officer, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, Dallas, TX; former U.S. Deputy Trade Representative

*Thomas S. Foley, Partner, Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, Washington, DC; former U.S. Ambassador to Japan; former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives; North American Chairman, Trilateral Commission

Michael B.G. Froman, Managing Director, Chief Operating Officer and Head of Strategy and Business Development, Citigroup Alternative Investments, Citigroup Inc., New York, NY

Francis Fukuyama, Bernard L. Schwartz Professor International Political Economy, Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, The Johns Hopkins University, Washington, DC

Dionisio Garza Medina, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, ALFA, Garza Garcia, NL

Richard A. Gephardt, former Member (D-MO), U.S. House of Representatives

David Gergen, Professor of Public Service, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; Editor-at-Large, U.S. News and World Report

Peter C. Godsoe, retired Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Scotiabank, Toronto, ON

*Allan E. Gotlieb, Senior Advisor, Stikeman Elliott, Toronto, ON; Chairman, Sotheby’s, Canada; former Canadian Ambassador to the United States; North American Deputy Chairman, Trilateral Commission

Donald E. Graham, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Washington Post Company, Washington, DC

Jeffrey W. Greenberg, Private Investor, New York, NY; former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Marsh & McLennan Companies

Richard N. Haass, President, Council on Foreign Relations, New York, NY; former Director, Policy Planning, U. S. Department of State; former Director of Foreign Policy Studies, The Brookings Institution

James T. Hackett, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Anadarko Petroleum Corp.,
The Woodlands, TX

John J. Hamre, President, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, DC; former U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense and Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller)

William A. Haseltine, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Haseltine Associates, Washington, DC;

President, William A. Haseltine Foundation for Medical Sciences and the Arts; former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Human Genome Sciences, Inc., Rockville, MD

Richard F. Haskayne, Haskayne and Partners, Calgary, AB; past Chairman of the Board of TransCanada Corp.

Charles B. Heck, Senior Adviser and former North American Director, Trilateral Commission; Associate Professor of History and Global Perspectives, Principia College

*Carla A. Hills, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Hills & Company, International Consultants, Washington, DC; former U.S. Trade Representative; former U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development

Richard Holbrooke, Vice Chairman, Perseus LLC, New York, NY; Counselor, Council on Foreign Relations; former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations; former Vice Chairman of Credit Suisse First Boston Corporation; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Canadian Affairs; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs; and former U.S. Ambassador to Germany

Karen Elliott House, writer, Princeton, NJ; former Senior Vice President, Dow Jones & Company, and Publisher, The Wall Street Journal

Alejandro Junco de la Vega, President and Director, Grupo Reforma, Monterrey, NL

Robert Kagan, Senior Associate, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Washington, DC

Arnold Kanter, Principal and Founding Member, The Scowcroft Group, Washington, DC; former

U.S. Under Secretary of State

Charles R. Kaye, Co-President, Warburg Pincus LLC, New York, NY

Henry A. Kissinger, Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc., New York, NY; former U.S. Secretary of State; former U.S. Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs

Michael Klein, Chief Executive Officer, Global Banking, Citigroup Inc.; Vice Chairman, Citibank International PLC; New York, NY

Steven E. Koonin, Chief Scientist, BP, London, UK

Enrique Krauze, General Director, Editorial Clio Libros y Videos, S.A. de C.V., Mexico City, DF

Robert Lane, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Deere & Co., Moline, IL

Fred Langhammer, Chairman, Global Affairs, The Estée Lauder Companies, Inc., New York, NY

Jim Leach, Member (R-IA), U.S. House of Representatives

Gerald M. Levin, Chief Executive Officer Emeritus, AOL Time Warner, Inc., New York, NY

Winston Lord, Co-Chairman of Overseeers and former Co-Chairman of the Board, International Rescue Committee, New York, NY; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs; former U.S. Ambassador to China

E. Peter Lougheed, Senior Partner, Bennett Jones, Barristers & Solicitors, Calgary, AB; former Premier of Alberta

*Roy MacLaren, former Canadian High Commissioner to the United Kingdom; former Canadian Minister of International Trade; Toronto, ON

John A. MacNaughton, former President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Pension Plan Investment Board, Toronto, ON

Antonio Madero, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, San Luis Corporacion, S.A. de C.V., Mexico City, DF

John Manley, Senior Counsel, McCarthy Tétrault LLP, Ottawa, ON; former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance

*Sir Deryck C. Maughan, Managing Director and Chairman, KKR Asia, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co., New York, NY; former Vice Chairman, Citigroup

Jay Mazur, President Emeritus, UNITE (Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees); Vice Chairman, Amalgamated Bank of New York; and President, ILGWU's 21st Century Heritage Foundation, New York, NY

Hugh L. McColl, Jr., Chairman, McColl Brothers Lockwood, Charlotte, NC; former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Bank of America Corporation

Marc H. Morial, President and Chief Executive Officer, National Urban League, New York, NY; former Mayor, New Orleans, LA

Heather Munroe-Blum, Principal and Vice-Chancellor, McGill University, Montreal, QC

Anne M. Mulcahy, Chairman and CEO, Xerox Corporation, Stamford, CT

Brian Mulroney, Senior Partner, Ogilvy Renault, Barristers and Solicitors, Montréal, QC; former Prime Minister of Canada

*Indra K. Nooyi, President and Chief Financial Officer, PepsiCo, Inc., Purchase, NY

*Joseph S. Nye, Jr., Distinguished Service Professor at Harvard University, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Dean, John F. Kennedy School of Government; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs

David J. O'Reilly, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Chevron Corporation, San Ramon, CA

Richard N. Perle, Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute, Washington, DC; member and former Chairman, Defense Policy Board, U.S. Department of Defense; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy

Thomas R. Pickering, Consultant and former Senior Vice President, International Relations, The Boeing Company, Arlington, VA; former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs; former U.S. Ambassador to the Russian Federation, India, Israel, El Salvador, Nigeria, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, and the United Nations

Martha C. Piper, President and Vice-Chancellor, The University of British Columbia, Vancouver, BC

Richard Plepler, Executive Vice President, HBO, New York, NY

Joseph W. Ralston, USAF (Ret)., Vice Chairman, The Cohen Group, Washington, DC; former Commander, U.S. European Command, and Supreme Allied Commander NATO; former Vice Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, U.S. Department of Defense

Charles B. Rangel, Member (D-NY), U.S. House of Representatives

Susan Rice, Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution, Washington, DC; former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs; former Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs, National Security Council

Hartley Richardson, President and Chief Executive Officer, James Richardson & Sons, Ltd., Winnipeg, MB

Joseph E. Robert, Jr., Chairman and Chief Executive Office, J.E. Robert Companies, McLean, VA

John D. Rockefeller IV, Member (D-WV), U.S. Senate

Kenneth Rogoff, Professor of Economics and Director, Center for International Development, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Chief Economist and Director, Research Department, International Monetary Fund, Washington, DC

Charles Rose, Host of the Charlie Rose Show and Charlie Rose Special Edition, PBS, New York, NY

David M. Rubenstein, Co-founder and Managing Director, The Carlyle Group, Washington, DC

Luis Rubio, President, Center of Research for Development (CIDAC), Mexico City, DF

Arthur F. Ryan, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Prudential Financial, Inc., Newark, NJ

Jaime Serra, Chairman, SAI Consulting, Mexico City, DF; former Mexican Minister of Trade and Industry

Dinakar Singh, Founder and Chief Executive Officer, TPG-Axon Capital, New York, NY; former Co-head, Principal Strategies Department, Goldman Sachs

Anne-Marie Slaughter, Dean, Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ

Gordon Smith, Director, Centre for Global Studies, University of Victoria, Victoria, BC; Chairman, Board of Governors, International Development Research Centre; former Canadian Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs and Personal Representative of the Prime Minister to the Economic Summit

Donald R. Sobey, Chairman Emeritus, Empire Company Ltd., Halifax, NS

Ronald D. Southern, Chairman, ATCO Group, Calgary, AB

James B. Steinberg, Dean, LBJ School of Public Affairs, University of Texas, Austin, TX; former Vice President and Director of the Foreign Policy Studies Program, The Brookings Institution, Washington, DC; former U.S. Deputy National Security Advisor

Jessica Stern, Lecturer in Public Policy, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

Barbara Stymiest, Chief Operating Officer, RBC Financial Group, Toronto, ON

Lawrence H. Summers, Charles W. Eliot University Professor of Harvard University, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former President, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury

John J. Sweeney, President, AFL-CIO, Washington, DC

Strobe Talbott, President, The Brookings Institution, Washington, DC; former U.S. Deputy Secretary of State

Luis Tellez, Managing Director, The Carlyle Group, Mexico City, DF; former Executive Vice President, Sociedad de Fomento Industrial (DESC); former Mexican Minister of Energy

George J. Tenet, Distinguished Professor, Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service, Georgetown University, Washington, DC; former U.S. Director of Central Intelligence

John Thain, Chief Executive Officer, New York Stock Exchange, Inc.; former President and Co-Chief Operating Officer, Goldman Sachs & Co., New York, NY

G. Richard Thoman, Managing Partner, Corporate Perspectives and Adjunct Professor, Columbia University, New York, NY; former President and Chief Executive Officer, Xerox Corporation; former Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, IBM Corporation

*Paul A. Volcker, former Chairman, Wolfensohn & Co., Inc., New York; Frederick H. Schultz Professor Emeritus, International Economic Policy, Princeton University; former Chairman, Board of Governors, U.S. Federal Reserve System; Honorary North American Chairman and former North American Chairman, Trilateral Commission

William H. Webster, Senior Partner, Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP, Washington, DC; former U.S. Director of Central Intelligence; former Director, U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation; former Judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit

Fareed Zakaria, Editor, Newsweek International, New York, NY

*Lorenzo H. Zambrano, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, CEMEX, Monterrey, NL; North American Deputy Chairman, Trilateral Commission

Ernesto Zedillo, Director, Yale Center for the Study of Globalization, Yale University, New Haven, CT; former President of Mexico

Mortimer B. Zuckerman, Chairman and Editor-in-Chief, U.S. News & World Repor,t and Publisher, New York Daily News; Founder and Chairman of Boston Properties, Inc.; New York, NY

Robert S. McNamara, Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Commission, Washington, DC; former President, World Bank; former U.S. Secretary of Defense; former President, Ford Motor Company.

David Rockefeller, Founder, Honorary Chairman, and Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Commission,

New York, NY



Former Members In Public Service


Rona Ambrose, Canadian Minister of the Environment

Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States

Paula J. Dobriansky, U.S. Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs

Bill Graham, Leader of the Opposition, Canadian House of Commons

Paul Wolfowitz, President, World Bank

Pacific Asian Group


Note: Those without city names are Japanese Members.

Korean names are shown with surname first.


Narongchai Akrasanee, Executive Chairman, Export Import Bank of Thailand; former Minister of Commerce of Thailand; Bangkok

Ali Alatas, Advisor and Special Envoy of the President of the Republic of Indonesia; former Indonesian Minister for Foreign Affairs; Jakarta

Philip Burdon, Former Chairman, Asia 2000 Foundation; New Zealand Chairman, APEC; former New Zealand Minister of Trade Negotiations; Wellington

Cho Suck-Rai, Chairman, Hyosung Corporation, Seoul

Chung Mong-Joon, Member, Korean National Assembly; Vice President, Federation Internationale de Football Association (FIFA); Seoul

Barry Desker, Vice Chairman, Singapore Business Federation; Director, Institute of Defence and Strategic Studies, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore

Takashi Ejiri, Lawyer, Asahi Koma Law Office

Jesus P. Estanislao, President and Chief Executive Officer, Institute of Corporate Directors/Institute of Solidarity in Asia, Manila; former Philippine Minister of Finance

Hugh Fletcher, Chancellor, The University of Auckland; former Chief Executive Officer, Fletcher Challenge

Hiroaki Fujii, Advisor, The Japan Foundation; Chairman, Mori Arts Center; former Japanese Ambassador to the United Kingdom

Shinji Fukukawa, Chairman, TEPIA, The Machine Industry Memorial Foundation

Yoichi Funabashi, Chief Diplomatic Correspondent and Columnist, The Asahi Shimbun

Carrillo Gantner, President, The Myer Foundation; Melbourne

Ross Garnaut, Professor of Economics, Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies, Australian National University, Canberra

*Toyoo Gyohten, President, Institute for International Monetary Affairs; Senior Advisor, The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, Ltd.

*Han Sung-Joo, President, Seoul Forum for International Affairs; Professor, International Relations, Ilmin International Relations Institute, Korea University, Seoul; former Korean Minister of Foreign Affairs; former Korean Ambassador to the United States

*Stuart Harris, Professor of International Relations, Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies, Australian National University, Canberra; former Australian Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs

Azman Hashim, Chairman, AmBank Group, Kuala Lumpur

John R. Hewson, Chairman, The John Hewson Group, Sydney

Ernest M. Higa, President and Chief Executive Officer, Higa Industries

Hong Seok Hyun, former Chairman and CEO, Joong Ang Ilbo; former Korean Ambassador to the United States; Seoul

Shintaro Hori, Partner and Chairman, Bain & Company Japan, Inc.

Murray Horn, Managing Director, Institutional Banking, ANZ (NZ) Ltd., Sydney; Chairman, ANZ Investment Bank; former Parliament Secretary, New Zealand Treasury

Hyun Hong-Choo, Senior Partner, Kim & Chang, Seoul; former Korean Ambassador to the United Nations and to the United States; Seoul

Hyun Jae-Hyun, Chairman, Tong Yang Group, Seoul

Shin’ichi Ichimura, Professor Emeritus, Kyoto University; former Counselor, International Centre for the Study of East Asian Development, Kitakyushu

Nobuyuki Idei, Chief Corporate Advisor, Sony Corporation

Noriyuki Inoue, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Daikin Industries, Ltd.

Motoo Kaji, Professor Emeritus, University of Tokyo

Kasem Kasemsri, Honorary Chairman, Thailand-U.S. Business Council, Bangkok; Chairman, Advisory Board, Chart Thai Party; Chairman, Thai-Malaysian Association; former Deputy Prime Minister of Thailand

Koichi Kato, Member, Japanese House of Representatives; former Secretary-General, Liberal Democratic Party

K. Kesavapany, Director, Institute of Southeast Asian Studies, Singapore

Kim Kihwan, International Advisor, Goldman Sachs, Asia, Seoul; former Korean Ambassador-at-Large for Economic Affairs

Kim Kyung-Won, President Emeritus, Seoul Forum for International Affairs, Seoul; former Korean Ambassador to the United States and the United Nations; Advisor, Kim & Chang Law Office

Kakutaro Kitashiro, Chairman of the Board, IBM Japan, Ltd.; Chairman, KEIZAI DOYUKAI (Japan Association of Corporate Executives)

Shoichiro Kobayashi, Advisor, Kansai Electric Power Company, Ltd.

*Yotaro Kobayashi, Chief Corporate Advisor, Fuji Xerox Co., Ltd.; Pacific Asia Chairman, Trilateral Commission

Akira Kojima, Chairman, Japan Center for Economic Research (JCER)

Koo John, Chairman, LS Cable Ltd.; Chairman, LS Industrial Systems Co.; Seoul

*Lee Hong-Koo, Chairman, Seoul Forum for International Affairs, Seoul; former Korean Prime Minister; former Korean Ambassador to the United Kingdom and the United States

Lee In-ho, Distinguished Professor, Myongji University, Seoul; former President, Korea Foundation; former Korean Ambassador to Finland and Russia

Lee Jay Y., Vice President, Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Seoul

Lee Kyungsook Choi, President, Sookmyung Women's University, Seoul

Adrianto Machribie, Chairman, PT Freeport Indonesia, Jakarta

*Minoru Makihara, Senior Corporate Advisor, Mitsubishi Corporation

Hiroshi Mikitani, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Rakuten, Inc.

Yoshihiko Miyauchi, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, ORIX Corporation

Isamu Miyazaki, Honorary Advisor, Daiwa Institute of Research, Ltd.; former Director-General of the Japanese Economic Planning Agency

*Kiichi Miyazawa, former Prime Minister of Japan; former Finance Minister; former Member, House of Representatives

Yuzaburo Mogi, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Kikkoman Corporation

Mike Moore, former Director-General, World Trade Organization, Geneva; Member, New Zealand Privy Council, Auckland; former Prime Minister of New Zealand

Moriyuki Motono, President, Foreign Affairs Society; former Japanese Ambassador to France

Jiro Murase, Managing Partner, Bingham McCutchen Murase, New York

*Minoru Murofushi, Counselor, ITOCHU Corporation

Osamu Nagayama, President and Chief Executive Officer, Chugai Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd.

Masao Nakamura, President and Chief Executive Officer, NTT Docomo Inc.

Masashi Nishihara, President, Research Institute for Peace and Security: former President, National Defense Academy

Taizo Nishimuro, Advisor to the Board, Toshiba Corporation

Roberto F. de Ocampo, President, Asian Institute of Management; former Secretary of Finance, Manila

Toshiaki Ogasawara, Chairman, Nifco Inc.; Chairman and Publisher, The Japan Times Ltd.

Sadako Ogata, President, Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA); former United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees

*Shijuro Ogata, former Deputy Governor, Japan Development Bank; former Deputy Governor for International Relations, Bank of Japan; Pacific Asia Deputy Chairman, Trilateral Commission

Sozaburo Okamatsu, President, Industrial Property Cooperation Center; former Chairman, Research Institute of Economy, Trade & Industry (RIETI)

*Yoshio Okawara, President, Institute for International Policy Studies; former Japanese Ambassador to the United States

Yoichi Okita, Professor, National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies

Ariyoshi Okumura, Chairman, Lotus Corporate Advisory, Inc.

Anand Panyarachun, Chairman, Thai Industrial Federation; Chairman, Saha-Union Public Company, Ltd.; former Prime Minister of Thailand; Bangkok

Ryu Jin Roy, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Poongsan Corp., Seoul

Eisuke Sakakibara, Professor, Keio University; former Japanese Vice Minister of Finance for International Affairs

SaKong Il, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Institute for Global Economics, Seoul; former Korean Minister of Finance

Yoshiyasu Sato, Advisor, Tokyo Electric Power Co. Ltd.; former Japanese Ambassador to China

Yukio Satoh, President, The Japan Institute of International Affairs; former Japanese Ambassador to the United Nations

Sachio Semmoto, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, eAccess, Ltd.

Masahide Shibusawa, President, Shibusawa Ei’ichi Memorial Foundation

Arifin Siregar, Chairman of the Governing Board, Indonesian Council on World Affairs (ICWA); former International Advisor, Goldman Sachs (Pacific Asia) LLC; former Ambassador of Indonesia to the United States; Jakarta

Jacob Soetoyo, Director and Shareholder of P.T.Gesit Maju Corporation

Shigemitsu Sugisaki, Chairman, Sompo Japan Research Institute Inc.; Former Deputy Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF)

Tsuyoshi Takagi, President, JTUC-Rengo (Japanese Trade Union Confederation)

Keizo Takemi, Member, Japanese House of Councillors; former State Secretary for Foreign Affairs

Akihiko Tanaka, Professor, University of Tokyo

Hitoshi Tanaka, Senior Fellow, Japan Center for International Exchange; former Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs

Naoki Tanaka, President, The 21st Century Public Policy Institute

Teh Kok Peng, President, GIC Special Investments Private Ltd., Singapore

Kiyoshi Tsugawa, Executive Advisor & Member of Japan Advisory Board, Lehman Brothers Japan, Inc.; Member of the Board, Aozora Bank; Chairman, ARAMARK ASIA

Junichi Ujiie, Chairman, Nomura Holdings, Inc.

Sarasin Viraphol, Executive Vice President, Charoen Pokphand Co., Ltd., Bangkok; former Deputy Permanent Secretary of Foreign Affairs of Thailand

Cesar E. A. Virata, Corporate Vice Chairman and Acting Chief Executive Officer, Rizal Commercial Banking Corporation (RCBC), Manila; former Prime Minister of Philippines

*Jusuf Wanandi, Vice Chairman, Board of Trustees, Centre for Strategic and International Studies, Jakarta

Etsuya Washio, President, The Foundation for Workers Welfare and Cooperative Insurance; former President, Japanese Trade Union Confederation (RENGO)

Katsuaki Watanabe, President, Toyota Motor Corporation

Koji Watanabe, Senior Fellow, Japan Center for International Exchange; former Japanese Ambassador to Russia

Osamu Watanabe, Chairman, Japan External Trade Organization (JETRO)

Taizo Yakushiji, Member, Council for Science and Technology Policy of the Cabinet Office of Japan; Executive Research Director, Institute for International Policy Studies

Tadashi Yamamoto, President, Japan Center for International Exchange; Pacific Asia Director, Trilateral Commission

Noriyuki Yonemura, Counselor, Fuji Xerox Co., Ltd.

Former Members in Public Service


Masaharu Ikuta, Director General, Postal Services Corporation.

Takeshi Kondo, President, Japan Highway Public Corporation (Nihon Doro Kodan)

Kenji Kosaka, Member, Japanese House of Representatives; Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology

Hisashi Owada, Judge, International Court of Justice

Yasuhisa Shiozaki, Senior Vice Minister for Foreign Affairs; Member, Japanese House of Representatives; former Parliamentary Vice Minister for Finance


Participants from Other Areas

“Triennium Participants”


André Azoulay, Adviser to H.M. King Mohammed VI, Rabat, Morocco

Morris Chang, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd., Taipei, Republic of China

Omar Davies, Member of the Jamaican Parliament and Minister of Finance and Planning; former Director General, Planning Institute of Jamaica; Kingston, Jamaica

Hüsnü Dogan, General Coordinator, Nurol Holding; former Chairman of the Board of Trustees, Development Foundation of Turkey; former Minister of Defence; Ankara, Turkey

Alejandro Foxley, Member of the Senate and former Chairman of the Finance Committee and the Joint Budget Committee, Chilean Congress; Valparaiso, Chile

Jacob A. Frenkel, Vice Chairman, American International Group, Inc. (AIG) and Chairman, AIG's Global Economic Strategies Group, New York, NY; Chairman, Group of Thirty; former Chairman, Merrill Lynch International London; former Governor, Bank of Israel

Victor K. Fung, Chairman, Li & Fung; Chairman, Prudential Asia Ltd., Hong Kong

Frene Ginwala, former Speaker of the National Assembly, Parliament of the Republic of South Africa; Cape Town, South Africa

H.R.H. Prince El Hassan bin Talal, President, The Club of Rome; Moderator of the World Conference on Religion and Peace; Chairman, Arab Thought Forum; Amman, Hasemite Kingdom of Jordan

Ricardo Hausman, Professor of the Practice of Economic Development, Center for International Development, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Chief Economist, Inter-American Development Bank; former Venezuelan Minister of Planning and Member of the Board of the Central Bank of Venezuela

Sergei Karaganov, Deputy Director, Institute of Europe, Russian Academy of Sciences; Chairman of the Presidium of the Council on Defense and Foreign Policy; Moscow, Russian Federation

Jeffrey L.S. Koo, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Chinatrust Investment, Bank; Taipei, Republic of China

Richard Li, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Pacific Century Group Holdings Ltd., Hong Kong

Ricardo Lopez Murphy, Visiting Research Fellow, Latin American Economic Research Foundation; former Argentinian Finance Minister and Defence Minister; Buenos Aires, Argentina

Andrónico Luksic Craig, Vice Chairman, Banco de Chile, Santiago, Chile

Itamar Rabinovich, President, Tel Aviv University; former Ambassador to the United States; Tel Aviv, Israel

Rüsdü Saracoglu, President of the Finance Group, Koç Holding; Chairman, Makro Consulting; former State Minister and Member of the Turkish Parliament; former Governor of the Central Bank of Turkey; Istanbul, Turkey

Roberto Egydio Setubal, President and Chief Executive Officer, Banco Itaú S.A. and Banco Itaú Holding Financiera S.A.; Sao Paulo, Brazil

Stan Shih, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Acer Group, Taipei, Republic of China

Gordon Wu, Chairman and Managing Director, Hopewell Holdings Ltd., Hong Kong

Grigory A. Yavlinsky, Chairman and Co-founder of the Russian Democratic Party "Yabloko" and former Member of the State Duma; Chairman of the Center for Economic and Political Research; Moscow, Russian Federation

Yu Xintian, President, Shanghai Institute for International Studies, Shanghai, People's Republic of China

Yuan Ming, Director, Institute of International Relations, Peking University, Beijing, People's Republic of China

Zhang Yunling, Director, Institute of Asia-Pacific Studies, Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS), Beijing, People's Republic of China

Wang Jisi, Dean, School of International Studies, Peking University, Beijing, People's Republic of China
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
don't tellme our chart guy is drinking already..

boy oh boy
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
This would be a great time to squash Tokyo with that ...what did you call it????.......The 10 K-ZILLA!!!!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Damn CSHD couldn't wait one more day til my funds cleared.... oh well.

Damn dog, how much FUNDS do you have!! SHEESH! Hey everyone, DOG's LOADED!! LOL [Wink]
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
a link would have been just fine Ryan....lol
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Tonight with the J & C's rat! [Big Grin]

I got booted again...

First thing I'm doing on PAYDAY is picking up a NICE mobile stock hand held...

Speaking of which, anyone know of any good ones?!!
PLEEEEASE share that info with me [Smile]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
a link would have been just fine Ryan....lol

Beat me to it. LOL!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I know but that was actually emailed to me by the trilateral group.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Chart - remember the other day when I had that link up & you could search who donated money to the republican party & how much?.......well, that David Rokefeller that you see in this Trilateral list was on there!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Damn Ryan!!!!

Tht thing reads like the guest list at a Drug Cartel convention....
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
WOAH! Look at ARCA on the bid!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I know but that was actually emailed to me by the trilateral group.

All that info is on their website..http://www.trilateral.org/
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Rockefeller is way bigger than donations to the republican party. He's part of like American Royalty.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
...a little action here....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
cool Jenna!

Have to dig into that more tonight!!

And Ryan...
nice "War and Peace" posting! LOL ~~

[it's all good!]
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Running!!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
We are about to hit a new HOD me thinks!!!!
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Damn Ryan!!!!

Tht thing reads like the guest list at a Drug Cartel convention....

there you go!
and these are the guys that want to see you and me in FEMA-camps!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
whammo
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
on the move...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I like to do my part. I was going for the longest post alltime [Smile]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Rockefeller is way bigger than donations to the republican party. He's part of like American Royalty.

Do you think that's one of Rufus' connections?

I didn't want to just assume he was one of those "Rockefeller's".
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I like to do my part. I was going for the longest post alltime [Smile]

Good job!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well let's hope so but I'm not banking on it Jenna. Tut threw this group out there the other day correct. Well this is the most recent membership list lets see if we can make a connection.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Think we are aboutto go for another NEW HOD>>>
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
gotta love that chit....
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I like to do my part. I was going for the longest post alltime [Smile]

You definitely got that award Ryan
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
little dip...

No news yet huh?!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
OK guys this could be way off the mark, but if there's a connection and I only skimmed this list. So far this would be my bet.

Ricardo Hausman, Professor of the Practice of Economic Development, Center for International Development, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Chief Economist, Inter-American Development Bank; former Venezuelan Minister of Planning and Member of the Board of the Central Bank of Venezuela
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I just put a rediculas sell price on alll my stuff....

I don't know if that will take um out of the loan pile or not....cant hurt though.... If it does run and take me out I won't care anyways....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
OK guys this could be way off the mark, but if there's a connection and I only skimmed this list. So far this would be my bet.

Ricardo Hausman, Professor of the Practice of Economic Development, Center for International Development, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Chief Economist, Inter-American Development Bank; former Venezuelan Minister of Planning and Member of the Board of the Central Bank of Venezuela

I like..... [Smile]

(dip not over btw)
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well catch up with you guys in a little bit.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I love how the list is topped by Thomas Foley! Ha! Hope he didn't email you back Ryan!!! LOL
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
shhhh. I wasn't supposed to tell
 
Posted by li on :
 
what did you put in at rat?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
dgambar8
HSM Addict


Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,016
ANNOUNCEMENT: TUT WILL BE ON SUB PENNY RADIO TONIGHT AT 9:00 EST. HE'S GOT GOOD THINGS TO SAY, SO BE THERE. HE WILL BE DOING A LOT OF TALKING, SO GET READY TO LISTEN.

ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT SIMON HAS WORKED OUT THE LOG ON PROBLEM FOR LIVE 365. IF YOU HAVE A MEMBERSHIP, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOG IN FINE NOW. SIMON ALSO WANTED ME TO LET YOU KNOW, THE LAST TUT INTERVIEW IS ABOUT TO BE PLAYED. IT HAVE EVEN STARTED.

THANKS!!!! AND ENJOY THE REST OF THIS SWEET RUN!!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
$172.00
 
Posted by li on :
 
the BxA keeps getting really wide, I bet they are holding there shorts but picking up major cash today on teh spread
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
anyone know where the list of mm can be found?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Personally, I don't care what Tut has to say at this point. I just want the reset! [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
going ~~~
2 of 4 pos!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
That's all?
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
$172.00


 
Posted by li on :
 
we just need about 1 million shares EOD on the upside and tomorrow the DTs will swoop in and take us up.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Here We goooooo...


2.75+ is gunna be tough to get thru....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
all POS now!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
BB where's the cheerleader for 2.90
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Here We goooooo...


2.75+ is gunna be tough to get thru....

Looks like you nailed it
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
That's all?
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
$172.00


Ya!!!!

Not gready...

I don't have a huge position in this any ways....

172 would definately pay some bills tho.... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
that's a HUGE wall at 2.75:)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
TUT WILL BE ON SUB PENNY RADIO TONIGHT AT 9:00 EST.

FYI
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
TUT WILL BE ON SUB PENNY RADIO TONIGHT AT 9:00 EST.

FYI

But you're Tut!
 
Posted by frank021474 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
TUT WILL BE ON SUB PENNY RADIO TONIGHT AT 9:00 EST.

FYI

But you're Tut!
LOL
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
stupid question, but for people who have Scottrade, how do you put a order in to sell over $100? I get a message "Unable to enter the order because the limit price entered is too far away from the market price for stocks under $10."
Thanks
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
that's a HUGE wall at 2.75:)

That is LONG TERM resistance there.....3.10 is the next wall....or there abouts..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
TUT WILL BE ON SUB PENNY RADIO TONIGHT AT 9:00 EST.

FYI

But you're Tut!
Pimping myself! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Did I miss anything? Trying to work... pm's going crazy, cell blowin up...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Does anybody know why this is skyrocketing today with no news?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yep!
[Big Grin]
quote:
Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY:
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by RichBy26:
that's a HUGE wall at 2.75:)

That is LONG TERM resistance there.....3.10 is the next wall....or there abouts..
Then I hope we can break that sob! he he ~~

Indicators are coming around again.... [Smile]
 
Posted by li on :
 
don't forget you have to expect some profit taking on a 40% day....
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Mathis you have to call in your order..

Then listen to the guy laugh at you.

Uhh yea can you put a sell order in fro $322 for my CSHD please..

Do it its fun.. LOL
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mathis:
stupid question, but for people who have Scottrade, how do you put a order in to sell over $100? I get a message "Unable to enter the order because the limit price entered is too far away from the market price for stocks under $10."
Thanks

You have to call it in! GLTY
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
don't forget you have to expect some profit taking on a 40% day....

I'm sure you are right, but it seems like a risky time to be flipping IMO. After hours could see the 10K.

Jo
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
anyone have the list of market maker abbreviations. I noticed ARCA w to large bids
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
don't forget you have to expect some profit taking on a 40% day....

I'm sure you are right, but it seems like a risky time to be flipping IMO. After hours could see the 10K.

Jo

Yeah...

And OH would that HURT to see 10k-ZILLA running away with the PPS!! lol ~
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
Thanks a surfer and cassity..muahaha ill give them a call as soon as I leave class and put in a order for hmm 350 and hear them laugh [Big Grin]
 
Posted by li on :
 
yes, of course risky but you've gotta figure that many people are not in this long or to screw the stock over, but just to make money DTing
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
--come to think of it...

Most PR's HAVE been after hours right?... (!!!)
all neg now.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Walker!!!! What does your can of numbers have for resistance buddy??

I'm tryin some chit that I haven't used in years....

Found a box with all my old charting tools in it when I was clearin out my Mom's basement...

Bringen back some old but very reliable tricks I used to use in the futures markets...
 
Posted by li on :
 
wasn't expecting this run till tomorrow, damn it why did I have to sleep in. [Frown]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2.58
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I guess the MMs have all now digested the SPR "interview" and read the GA State Filings.

Unless this is one of the last fake outs. I have no idea what is really going on here. Seemed to start a little early for a leak.

But this is the Johnny Drama Stack so who really knows.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
DT is bailing.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2 pos now...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by li:
wasn't expecting this run till tomorrow, damn it why did I have to sleep in. [Frown]

you were tired??
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Walker!!!! What does your can of numbers have for resistance buddy??

I'm tryin some chit that I haven't used in years....

Found a box with all my old charting tools in it when I was clearin out my Mom's basement...

Bringen back some old but very reliable tricks I used to use in the futures markets...

2.66
2.75
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
We are all tired. I've never been involved in anything like this before. It's been a great learning experience but I'm ready for a vacation.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
thanks....

We are gunna need a pretty good head of steam tyo get this bugger over that 2.75 mark....

It just may happen too!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
the right PR would do it ~
(NAZ!!)

Hey old tricks are the best tricks!
Feel free to PM me! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Theres plenty of time to rest when your dead Stockstar....No rest for the WICKED!!!!!!!
 
Posted by li on :
 
it'll go tomorrow look for a similar trend from two weeks ago, DTs are bailing for the day but willl be back tomorrow.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
at 12:41 we got shut down at 2.64
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
25 minutes to go ,, and this puppy is holden its own pretty good...

I'm starting to hear the theme music from "JAWS" in my head..(which is a nice change from the voices) da-da.....da-da....da-da-da-da-da!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
going POS!
 
Posted by LincolnSqueezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
going POS!

abbreviation not acronym
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
not enough steam yet ~ (vol)
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I have been away from the computer all day. What has happened to cause this stock to rise today? Anything particular??
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
3 of 4 neg now......

come on!

I want MORE then 37.89% in one day! :DD
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm back looks like I missed a nice run. So we have major resistance at 2.75 you guys said and we hit 2.74
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
we don't know ruthie!!!!

Aint it cool??
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
It'll make another run at it I think ~

-give it a minute or two, right back to support now at 2.58
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I think so too Walker....

Settin up nice for another go at it ....me thinks
 
Posted by $$$bill on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruthie:
I have been away from the computer all day. What has happened to cause this stock to rise today? Anything particular??

i don't know but i'm in at 2.6; i made my profit on that baby in the first big run, i don't wanna miss 2nd
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
yes, it IS cool!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
1 of 4 pos....
come on...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
should break soon...if its gunna
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2 of 4 pos... -weak
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Nite on bid and ask - just cut in front of VNDM twice on ask, on L2's ...
 
Posted by $$$bill on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
1 of 4 pos....
come on...

what does that mean?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Walker likes his indicators $$$Bill
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
chart indicators...they turn positive or negative...our friend chart uses three sometimes four(there are alot more) to judge where something is going...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by $$$bill:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
1 of 4 pos....
come on...

what does that mean?
He reads the charts & interprets them for us --POS means positive.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by $$$bill:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
1 of 4 pos....
come on...

what does that mean?
I trade off of technical indicators.

They tell me when to buy or sell, puting it as plainly as I can.. [Smile]

POSitive = $$$$ LOL ~ [Big Grin]

3of 4 pos now!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by $$$bill:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
1 of 4 pos....
come on...

what does that mean?
He reads the charts & interprets them for us --POS means positive.
I thought we was looking at his portfolio and naming which stocks are POS's.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Blastards wont let it gooo....

We will probably close flat from here...+ or _ a point or 2
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Almost have to feel sorry for repo [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
LMAOROF Repo!!! ~~~~~~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Repo
Have you called and bi tched at Ameritrade for not letting you trade this one? Doesn't it piss you off? what is it 2-3 months worth of profits that you could have made flippin'?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
HE must have hit a nerv walker!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
all 4 pos now...

but someone got the brake! sob's! [Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Repo
Have you called and bi tched at Ameritrade for not letting you trade this one? Doesn't it piss you off? what is it 2-3 months worth of profits that you could have made flippin'?

No. What happened to those other guys who complained? Did they get free trades yet?

I could have bought and flipped twice for about ....... oh, $300K.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Repo - Do you live in your parents basement?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by $$$bill:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
1 of 4 pos....
come on...

what does that mean?
He reads the charts & interprets them for us --POS means positive.
I thought we was looking at his portfolio and naming which stocks are POS's.
Learn proper english.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yeah...they got some free trade...yippee!
This has made some great money for those flippin...300k is somethin' to be po'd about!

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Repo
Have you called and bi tched at Ameritrade for not letting you trade this one? Doesn't it piss you off? what is it 2-3 months worth of profits that you could have made flippin'?

No. What happened to those other guys who complained? Did they get free trades yet?

I could have bought and flipped twice for about ....... oh, $300K.


 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
they always end us on a downtick.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo - Do you live in your parents basement?

Nope.
 
Posted by li on :
 
they're holding it down so that it will be easier to jumpstart tomorrow
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo - Do you live in your parents basement?

OUCH!! lol ~
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
what are the chances we hear something tonight.

P.R. or better
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo - Do you live in your parents basement?

Nope.
Thanks, just wondered. Pretty soon I'll be able to afford that private island!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ok!

NOW let's have the news!!

They like giving us news AFTER hours!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
well thats it Gang!!!

Was a fun day..

Hope for more tomorrow...Common Rufas!1!

See ya!!

oh and

Congrats Doni!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo - Do you live in your parents basement?

Nope.
Thanks, just wondered. Pretty soon I'll be able to afford that private island!
Just remember who loves ya.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
If we don't hear anything tonight...there may be another buying op...
I grabbed some extra today at 1.90 and sold earlier at 2.58...hopin' it will do it again Wednesday...if not...I am still holdin' shares for the reset....
Either way works for me.... [Big Grin]


quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
what are the chances we hear something tonight.

P.R. or better


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Later Board!

Nice Dream$
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Can't wait for tomorrow!!!!

Adios
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
RUFUS signed on to HSM!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Mr Harris is logged in on HSM
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Mr Harris is logged in on HSM

they sayen anything??
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Spooky, go take a look at CVSU.us...on the left side...it shows what the daela is with the wattle shares...

Hasn't then been there for a while now?
Learn the English language yourself, professor.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
ahh you beat me to it chart! lol
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
He's logged off now....awwwwww
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo - Do you live in your parents basement?

Nope.
Thanks, just wondered. Pretty soon I'll be able to afford that private island!
Just remember who loves ya.
It's all in the name of fun Repo.

Love ya
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Wonder why he logged in so briefly?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
later guys.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
maumee river rat posted: I'm starting to hear the theme music from "JAWS" in my head..(which is a nice change from the voices) da-da.....da-da....da-da-da-da-da!!!
Just when you thought it was safe to flip your CSHD shares.

 -

Click here for sound effects
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
I'm starting to hear the theme music from "JAWS" in my head..(which is a nice change from the voices) da-da.....da-da....da-da-da-da-da!!!
Just when you thought it was safe to flip your CSHD shares.

 -

Jo, you should be in graphic design or creative marketing instead of hanging around these message boards with the lowlifes all day. These boards are worse than an inner city OTB.
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
How wierd!!!! Chart, I keep checking Edgar to see if the 10k has been filed & you know how you've been calling it the 10-k zilla?

Well there was a 10k filed around 4 pm by zila inc. So the line is reading like this:

10K Zila inc.

I thought that was ironic!!
 
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Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Notice that Both sites cvsu.us and songwi.com are both down at the moment!!!
Hopeful something is up!!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
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Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman: Jo, you should be in graphic design or creative marketing instead of hanging around these message boards with the lowlifes all day.
But, Repo, then I'd miss you.

Jo
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
maumee river rat posted: I'm starting to hear the theme music from "JAWS" in my head..(which is a nice change from the voices) da-da.....da-da....da-da-da-da-da!!!
Just when you thought it was safe to flip your CSHD shares.

 -

Click here for sound effects

That's awsome!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Repo, you shouldn't call yourself a low life! Have some self esteem!!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
I'm starting to hear the theme music from "JAWS" in my head..(which is a nice change from the voices) da-da.....da-da....da-da-da-da-da!!!
Just when you thought it was safe to flip your CSHD shares.

 -

Jo, you should be in graphic design or creative marketing instead of hanging around these message boards with the lowlifes all day. These boards are worse than an inner city OTB.
Hey repo~

 -
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Notice that Both sites cvsu.us and songwi.com are both down at the moment!!!
Hopeful something is up!!!

Both of them came back up just a minute ago at the same time!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Hey repo~

 -

bump
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Repo you forgot us girls!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
One smart primate...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Spooky, go take a look at CVSU.us...on the left side...it shows what the daela is with the wattle shares...

Hasn't then been there for a while now?
Learn the English language yourself, professor.
BUMP.
That would be called a typo, not poor english.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Jenna wrote: Repo you forgot us girls!!
Here we are:
 -
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Repo & his woman. Which one are you repo?

web page
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I don't know hoe to bring the photo up. It' not working!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
Jenna wrote: Repo you forgot us girls!!
Here we are:
 -

That's right girls!!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo & his woman. Which one are you repo?

web page

LMAO!!!
How do you make it so the image is right on the page?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
 -
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Come on now, dont be mean to the girls. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
I can't get the inage to show up on the page!

quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo & his woman. Which one are you repo?

web page

LMAO!!!

 
Posted by Vin on :
 
...boom chica bowm bowm...
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Thanx NEW2. Isn't that funny?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Nice mullet Repo~
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I wish Jenna didn't know how to post that picture.
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Thanks, now I won't be able to sleep tonight...again! stomach turning...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Coming soon to a theatre near you...

 -

Rated RPH
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jenna... [Eek!]
Is that 2 guys? [Confused]
Man...it's makin' my eyes hurt...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
bump to get it off the page!

quote:
Man...it's makin' my eyes hurt...


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OK...we'll keep bumpin this one until the other is gone....
I'm gonna have horrible dreams of that picture...thanks Jenna....LOL


quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Coming soon to a theatre near you...

 -

Rated RPH


 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
hey y'alls. i see Jo broke out my girls. workin em overtime today! [Smile]

any "official reason" for the runup? interesting how much we moved on how little overall volume.

~BB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Coming soon to a theatre near you...

 -

Rated RPH

HA HA!!

Alright!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
nothing yet BB...

Guess we'll wait for Tut-man...
See what that little azz kisser knows! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
hey y'alls. i see Jo broke out my girls. workin em overtime today! [Smile]

any "official reason" for the runup? interesting how much we moved on how little overall volume.

~BB

I have a theory BB but until thye update the instituional investors list on NASDAQ I will not know if it is correct. I think someone(s) started buying today. It plays very well to other peoples statements that: Rufas said, "Watch the markets tomorrow." As if he knew that an institution was finished looking at the company and was interested in purchasing.

I did not think it would take a lot of buying pressure to reverse the walk down a few days ago, just someone interested in some real shares. [Smile] GLTA
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=CSHD
we are UP in after hours trading [Smile]
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
I will temper my statement by saying that I am very much a chart novice (almost a chart idiot), but given that I am over dd-ed on CSHD and tired of picking apart every sentence Rufus utters, listening to Michael Alexander swear like a scurvy stricken pirate and discecting over the 8-k's like they were the Zapruder film, I just wanted to just step back and look at CSHD in a broader sense.

I have been looking at the 6 month chart perfomrnace for CSHD and I have to say that it looks very, very healthy. Money flow is phenomenal and the retraces, with the exception of the August 16th (+/-) dip, have been healthy and within reason (using Fibonacci criteria).

http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=CSHD&num1=2&cobrand=&mode=stock

Absent of the immortal reset, if this baby is to rise organically, as Rufus hopes it to (absent of severe MM manipulation)- at these higher PPS's, to expect it to consistently gain 30, 40, 50, 60 percent a day is somewhat unreasonable. To see it explode for a couple days, retrace and flat line is normal, and quite good for a growing stock trying to get its legs. Slow and steady rises are nice too.

Anyway, I like where this is headed, performance wise. The extended dips are a little agonizing to watch on a day to day basis, but it's been holding this new plateau around $2.00 quite well, eh?

Everybody keep up with the yucks and wonderful DD' BTW- just wanted to give my opinion on CSHD from a technical angle. Anybody else with a more experienced eye think I'm full of crap?

And to Rufus- GET THEM DUKE BOYS!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Looks like some serious DD is being done tonight! Holy Crap! LOL [Roll Eyes] [Razz]
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bilgert:
I will temper my statement by saying that I am very much a chart novice (almost a chart idiot), but given that I am over dd-ed on CSHD and tired of picking apart every sentence Rufus utters, listening to Michael Alexander swear like a scurvy stricken pirate and discecting over the 8-k's like they were the Zapruder film, I just wanted to just step back and look at CSHD in a broader sense.

I have been looking at the 6 month chart perfomrnace for CSHD and I have to say that it looks very, very healthy. Money flow is phenomenal and the retraces, with the exception of the August 16th (+/-) dip, have been healthy and within reason (using Fibonacci criteria).

http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=CSHD&num1=2&cobrand=&mode=stock

Absent of the immortal reset, if this baby is to rise organically, as Rufus hopes it to (absent of severe MM manipulation)- at these higher PPS's, to expect it to consistently gain 30, 40, 50, 60 percent a day is somewhat unreasonable. To see it explode for a couple days, retrace and flat line is normal, and quite good for a growing stock trying to get its legs. Slow and steady rises are nice too.

Anyway, I like where this is headed, performance wise. The extended dips are a little agonizing to watch on a day to day basis, but it's been holding this new plateau around $2.00 quite well, eh?

Everybody keep up with the yucks and wonderful DD' BTW- just wanted to give my opinion on CSHD from a technical angle. Anybody else with a more experienced eye think I'm full of crap?

And to Rufus- GET THEM DUKE BOYS!

Great info Bilgert!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
OMG Repo!!

LMAO!!! ~
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
that was a good one repo!
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Repo, That was awesome!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
awesome maybe...
But Repo...you made me a nun? LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo, That was awesome!


 
Posted by portman on :
 
lol...repo

However...BB is MUCH better looking...the rest of you...I have no idea what you look like.

BTW...repo...stop getting hot looking at the last pic. lmao
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
--------------
LOL, Repo. Love your images of us girls. I think Betting Babe you definitely got down.

Jo
 -
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
awesome maybe...
But Repo...you made me a nun? LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo, That was awesome!


Well, you always seem to have a "pleasantness" in your posts... always a glass half full kind of tone. Always a kind word to say about everyone... I guess I could have used Mary Poppins instead.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Part of me wants to say thank you and part of me says Bite me...
I'll do the nun thing and say
Thank you and God Bless... [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
awesome maybe...
But Repo...you made me a nun? LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Repo, That was awesome!


Well, you always seem to have a "pleasantness" in your posts... always a glass half full kind of tone. Always a kind word to say about everyone... I guess I could have used Mary Poppins instead.

 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thank you jo...
and Peace be with you... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
That was great Repo - LMAO!!! & if this stock tanks I'm going to give you 5 stars - I owe you anyways, you already gave me 5.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
...and then theres Reeeeepomaaaaan!

 -

saving you from subpennies in a single swoooop!
 
Posted by Bittermac on :
 
I was raised Catholic, Jo, that picture is upsetting, and REALLY hot!
 
Posted by Bittermac on :
 
Parts of the BB are disappearing. Why is that?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
That's good BB.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
The mods deleted some of the Pictures...that's all...
quote:
Originally posted by Bittermac:
Parts of the BB are disappearing. Why is that?


 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
What happened to the pics?
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
Repo - you've been censored. I thought they were of extremely good taste [Confused]
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
Copyright material.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I think the pics just took up too much room...
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I think the pics just took up too much room...

Probably the reason... they left one on there that states copyright. lol
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
some sites block exporting them out...


if you use someones pictures and post a link to their site? you are advertising for them...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
some sites block exporting them out...


if you use someones pictures and post a link to their site? you are advertising for them...

Isn't that what we do all day long with
D & D?.. lol ~ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
yes... and keep up the good work [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Anyone listening to Tut on subpenny? Can't listen tonight, I'm at work. Please keep the board updated on what is said, thank you.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
I just tuned in he is reading some sort of pep talk/rally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
He's on Cassity...Reading a speech he wrote....
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
speech?
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
So far nothing new.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
How you doing tonight cassity?

He is reading an obviously prepared speech. Jeez its almost overboard. LOL
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
How you doing tonight cassity?

He is reading an obviously prepared speech. Jeez its almost overboard. LOL

Well I think I summed it up when I said I was working. J/K It sucks to have to work when you'd rather be chatting with your stock buddies. Thanks for the updates everyone.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
My bookmark for subpenny not working. Prob just full. Anyone got a link I can try?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Tut smokes weed.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Is he talking about Cobra's spitting and wings opening? or anything real?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Tut smokes weed.

takes one to know one j/k
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
we are on the edge of everything the shareholders have been waiting for.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by a surfer:
Tut smokes weed.

takes one to know one j/k [/QUOTE

Used to LOL

Tut is a musician in his spare time.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
let me guess - we will fall off the edge - soon...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tut simply came on to read some of his feelings that he was not able to express on his last call...so he wrote it out and read it...
He really believes in this company...

Sorry you have to work Cassity...I'm listening in a paltalk...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Simon said sounded like a state of the union adress..LOL.


Have you been compensated in any way.

Absolutely not!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
By the way that song that he "quoted" on HSM was by moodie blues
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
He has seen too many good situations when the shareholders lost out to institutions. Its time the shareholders win
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Is he talking about Cobra's spitting and wings opening? or anything real?

http://www.live365.com/stations/triple_zero
i am not sure if this will work
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Good to hear no compensation. I was begining to wonder that myself about him. Guess we'll never know for sure, but nice to hear anyway.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey 10, another crazy night on Paltalk! Ha
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Simon... is it too late for someone to get in to the life changing event.

No this is only the beginning. Its not too late.


Simon... what if they only they have $500. will it change their life.

It will do a lot for them. Even $500.

The potential is there for stock splts, Rufus has more planned than anyone can imagine.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Sugarsmack - THANKS!! for the link but I get "this station is currently full" on that link also. That's ok, I'm sure I'll get all the juicy stuff to read on this board. Thanks again!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
How big can this really get.

Global. very, very big

potential for Berkshire Hathoway..... Holy Crap
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Not really... [Wink]
Tut has nothin to say...really...he is just posting opinions of his...no real information...he did suggest that there is alot more DD out there that we haven't even begun to dig up...


quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey 10, another crazy night on Paltalk! Ha


 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Is this tied into the trilateral...???

Obviously rufus is able to get billions of $.

He's not really willing to tell.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL...surfer...your take and mine seem different...
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Sugarsmack - THANKS!! for the link but I get "this station is currently full" on that link also. That's ok, I'm sure I'll get all the juicy stuff to read on this board. Thanks again!

if you want to get in, you have to pay the $5/month and you can get in ("preferred member" or something like that).
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Look at 8k. 830mil in audited fins. That is a fact!!

you can't disprove that.

Everything this co. puts out is under a microscope.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
[kids with homework]

So please post for me this time peeps [Big Grin]

"Thanks in advance!"
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
So I guess Tut or Simon hasn't mentioned why we had another day come and go where we were supposed to see something happen. There were a few references made by TUT and Rufus that Friday, then Monday or Tuesday would be big...
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Sugarsmack - THANKS!! for the link but I get "this station is currently full" on that link also. That's ok, I'm sure I'll get all the juicy stuff to read on this board. Thanks again!

if you want to get in, you have to pay the $5/month and you can get in ("preferred member" or something like that).
Its worth it I just joined last week. Simon is good at some picks and it helps you learn...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Simon asked Tut if this will be the last stock that he trades since it is suppose to be so good...
Tut said it could be BUT it won't because of the business that he is in.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Figure this out.

TUT knows about the ancient religion of Egypt. This religion is followed by Free Masons. TUT mentioned Trilateral Commission. These are the most powerful people in the world and tied to Masons. The nefew of the richest man in the world is helping Rufus.

Please DD this one. Key words are UN, Trilateral Commision, Free Masons, Illuminati, republican party, New world order, World Bank.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
we are hours to days away!!!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
Figure this out.

TUT knows about the ancient religion of Egypt. This religion is followed by Free Masons. TUT mentioned Trilateral Commission. These are the most powerful people in the world and tied to Masons. The nefew of the richest man in the world is helping Rufus.

Please DD this one. Key words are UN, Trilateral Commision, Free Masons, Illuminati, republican party, New world order, World Bank.

Sandor we might need your help.. Thats a tall order.
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
we are hours to days away!!!

ooooooooooooooo you beat me [Wink]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
rumor that one or two firms that have started covering. Thats why the price went up today
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It will only take one firm to finally break for all the rest to follow and cover...
Firm=broker
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Speculation that Tut thinks maybe some of the smaller firms have decided to cut their losses and start covering
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
speculating that tomorrow will be another strong day and possibly stronger than today
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
where do you think the stock closes tom.

the same maybe stronger than today.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tut...stuff
~This has great potential for you and all your childrens children....(Does he know how many kids I have?)
~all clues and fact are there for us to see....once in a life time opp..
~look at UN, Trilateral Commision, Free Masons, Illuminati, republican party, New world order, World Bank.
~It will only take one firm to finally break for all the rest to follow and cover...
Firm=broker
~Speculation that Tut thinks maybe some of the smaller firms have decided to cut their losses and start covering
~Simon asked Tut if this will be the last stock that he trades since it is suppose to be so good...
Tut said it could be BUT it won't because of the business that he is in.
~Tut thinks tomorrow will be another strong day
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
The Illuminati is the name of many groups, modern and historical, real and fictitious, verified and alleged. Most commonly The Illuminati refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment secret society. However, it often refers to a shadowy conspiratorial organization which is reputed to secretly control world affairs, usually a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati. In this conspiratorial context, Illuminati is often used in reference to a New World Order (NWO). The Illuminati are believed to be the brains behind the events which will supposedly lead to a New World Order, in which the world will be run by a single, fascist government, and a large portion of the human race will be eliminated.
wikipedia
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
we are hours to days away!!!

WOW. Now that is earth shattering. How does he know these things. He said he doesn't know Rufus so maybe it's his connection to the Mason or the Illumati or the New World Order. You just can't buy information this illuminating. (tongue in cheek)

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LMAO..Wally...

quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
we are hours to days away!!!

WOW. Now that is earth shattering. How does he know these things. He said he doesn't know Rufus so maybe it's his connection to the Mason or the Illumati or the New World Order. You just can't buy information this illuminating. (tongue in cheek)

GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
The Illuminati is the name of many groups, modern and historical, real and fictitious, verified and alleged. Most commonly The Illuminati refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment secret society. However, it often refers to a shadowy conspiratorial organization which is reputed to secretly control world affairs, usually a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati. In this conspiratorial context, Illuminati is often used in reference to a New World Order (NWO). The Illuminati are believed to be the brains behind the events which will supposedly lead to a New World Order, in which the world will be run by a single, fascist government, and a large portion of the human race will be eliminated.

Now this really makes me want to put my money into this stock. Maybe if we own shares we will be spared but the rest of humanity will be eliminated. Maybe I don't have enough shares and only the largest shareholders will survive. Wait a minute this is why we need our names on the list, it has nothing to do with the stock but life itself.(More tongue in cheek)

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
wally be nice... LOL

Just repeating for the non-listeners
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
ha ha ha hooooo wheee....

I started to post "Illuminati" this morning, jokingly. Now this...

Robert Anton Wilson, et al.

looks as though all involved are spider-webbed into the "23" conspiracy...


[Eek!]
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
The Illuminati is the name of many groups, modern and historical, real and fictitious, verified and alleged. Most commonly The Illuminati refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment secret society. However, it often refers to a shadowy conspiratorial organization which is reputed to secretly control world affairs, usually a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati. In this conspiratorial context, Illuminati is often used in reference to a New World Order (NWO). The Illuminati are believed to be the brains behind the events which will supposedly lead to a New World Order, in which the world will be run by a single, fascist government, and a large portion of the human race will be eliminated.

Now this really makes me want to put my money into this stock. Maybe if we own shares we will be spared but the rest of humanity will be eliminated. Maybe I don't have enough shares and only the largest shareholders will survive. Wait a minute this is why we need our names on the list, it has nothing to do with the stock but life itself.(More tongue in cheek)

GLTA
Wally

hey...wikipedia. [Smile]
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
don't kill the messenger...lol
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
The Illuminati is the name of many groups, modern and historical, real and fictitious, verified and alleged. Most commonly The Illuminati refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment secret society. However, it often refers to a shadowy conspiratorial organization which is reputed to secretly control world affairs, usually a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati. In this conspiratorial context, Illuminati is often used in reference to a New World Order (NWO). The Illuminati are believed to be the brains behind the events which will supposedly lead to a New World Order, in which the world will be run by a single, fascist government, and a large portion of the human race will be eliminated.
wikipedia

now i get the picture!
rufus is the guy who grabbed the missing gold from the wtc on 9/11
it all makes sense now....lol
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i read a couple RA Wilson's books, what a hoot..
submarines and all...

Carlos Castanedas books were much better...
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tompom:
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
The Illuminati is the name of many groups, modern and historical, real and fictitious, verified and alleged. Most commonly The Illuminati refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment secret society. However, it often refers to a shadowy conspiratorial organization which is reputed to secretly control world affairs, usually a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati. In this conspiratorial context, Illuminati is often used in reference to a New World Order (NWO). The Illuminati are believed to be the brains behind the events which will supposedly lead to a New World Order, in which the world will be run by a single, fascist government, and a large portion of the human race will be eliminated.
wikipedia

now i get the picture!
rufus is the guy who grabbed the missing gold from the wtc on 9/11
it all makes sense now....lol

see?? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i read a couple RA Wilson's books, what a hoot..
submarines and all...

Carlos Castanedas books were much better...

i´m done with peyote...
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tompom:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i read a couple RA Wilson's books, what a hoot..
submarines and all...

Carlos Castanedas books were much better...

i´m done with peyote...
lol
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sugarsmack:
don't kill the messenger...lol

Not you the message.

I just find it really funny how a stock play that started with wood under water in the Amazon has turned into one of the best espionage thriller I have read and I have read quite a few over the years.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Glass? Are you listening? Tut is going to lead the fight to put an end to the NS...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i read a couple RA Wilson's books, what a hoot..
submarines and all...

Carlos Castanedas books were much better...

I read all of Castanedas books when in college and loved them. Many people never heard of them.

I am being nice just can't pass up a good laugh.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by sugarsmack on :
 
have you seen hsm? it has been pretty loopy tonight as well.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tompom:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i read a couple RA Wilson's books, what a hoot..
submarines and all...

Carlos Castanedas books were much better...

i´m done with peyote...
I had to give up the peyote too. Even though all this is making me feel like I'm having a flashback. [Big Grin]

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Carlos started off as a serious academic, but he lost "objectivity" [Wink]
 -

i suspect it was the datura that got him tho....

the "green man" (cactus) and the little smoke (mushroom) aren't that toxic, but datura (jimsonweed) is pretty ruff stuff...

i haven't listened to Tut, but? i have a hard time calling the trilateral stuff and the illuminati DD...

entertainment? sure....

and? of course i wanna get rid of naked shorting, but you guys gotta realise that testifying before congress and claiming you are being helped by the Illuminati won't get you much "traction"
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow... NEVER a boring night huh?! ha ~

Well, I suppose this Tut is whacked, ...
-or maybe he's not...

Time will tell.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Carlos started off as a serious academic, but he lost "objectivity" [Wink]
 -

i suspect it was the datura that got him tho....

the "green man" (cactus) and the little smoke (mushroom) aren't that toxic, but datura (jimsonweed) is pretty ruff stuff...

i haven't listened to Tut, but? i have a hard time calling the trilateral stuff adn the illuminati DD...

entertainment? sure....

Agreed on all counts.
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
great day, hope tommorrow is better.

p.s. harry open the door and let some smoke out.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
The New World Order is Here
...and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Secret Societies Exposed by RIE
"One stepping stone into these secret societies is the Skull & Bones Society at Yale University, as well depicted in the movie "The Skulls". Who's Who of the Elite names all of the members of this shadow government, and reveals where they work, the secret societies that they belong to, and their job titles, so that you can see the stranglehold that they have on our federal government, the mainstream news media, industry, labor unions, universities, foundations, the Supreme Court, and all facets of the financial world. If you want the details of this EVIL effort, take the time to read all of the information contained on this site. If you do, you will never watch the news on TV, or read the news magazines and newspapers the same way that you do now."

WAKE UP AMERICA
"...there is a power so organized, so subtle, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." --- President Woodrow Wilson. This is the most extensive list of links to Secret Societies and information that I have found yet, but some information has been confirmed as incorrect.

Skull & Bones, 1832
It all began at Yale. In 1832, General William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft put together a super secret society for the elite children of the Anglo- American Wall Street banking establishment. William Huntington Russell's step-brother Samuel Russell ran "Russell & Co.", the world's largest OPIUMsmuggling operation in the world at the time. Alphonso Taft is the Grandfather of our ex-president Howard Taft, the creator of the Forerunner to the United Nations.

Skull and Bones
"Actual Membership List of Skull & Bones" including the Rockefeller, Weyerhaeuser, & Pillsbury Families to name a few, and William Averall Harriman related to Pamela Harriman who supplied the funds to elect Bill Clinton to office.

YALE'S SKULL & BONES SOCIETY MEMBERS
So, the following semi-final list is about 97% accurate. Some Presidents are: William Howard Taft, 1878; George Bush, 1948; and George W. Bush nickname 'Temporary,' 1968 third generation from Prescott Sheldon Bush, 1917 who was a Financier of Adolf Hitler & The USSR! G. Bush Sr. spoke in one of his State of the Union speeches is 'a big idea, a New World Order.' More has been said on the History Channel documentaries.

Skull and Bones
a capsule history and an intimate peek at one section of the US Ruling Class

SECRET MEANINGS OF MASONIC SYMBOLS AND GOALS
The power of the Masonic bond was evidenced in the impeachment trial of President Clinton. In high school Clinton had been president of the Masonic youth group De Molay and in 1988 was inducted into the International De Molay Hall-of-Fame. Three Senators, all 33rd degree Masons, were instrumental in his acquittal : Majority Leader Trent Lott limited the time and the number ofwitnesses available to the House prosecutors; Republican Arlen Specter led the 10 Republican Senators who voted to acquit; Democrat Robert C. Byrd, although publicly acknowledgingClinton's guilt, actually voted for acquittal, and set the example for all other Democrats.

Skull and Bones Society
Its members always deny membership (or are supposed to deny membership) and in checking hundreds of autobiographical listings for members we found only half a dozen who cited an affiliation with Skull & Bones. The rest were silent. An interesting point is whether the many members in various Administrations or who hold government positions have declared their members in the biographical data supplied for FBI 'background checks'.

George W., Knight of Eulogia
A rare look inside Skull and Bones, the Yale secret society and sometime haunt of the presumptive Republican nominee for President.

The Bilderberg, 1932, home page One photo available.
'The High Priests of Globalisation.' Bilderberg is an extremely influential lobbying group. The Bilderberg Secretariat proclaims the conferences to be '...private in order to encourage frank and open discussion'. If what they discuss is for the good of ordinary people why not publicise it! Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands once wore the black uniform of Hitler’s SS is quite true.

The Bilderberg Group - The Invisible Power House -
With its membership selected from the power élite of Europe and North America, many wonder if the Bilderbergers are conspiring to establish a 'new world order'. Reported attendies to meetings are: Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Peter Jennings, and about 115 powerful people.

SEVENTEEN YEARS OF BILDERBERGERS
SEVENTEEN YEARS OF BILDERBERGERS INCLUDING THE 2000 INVITEES AND THEIR ELITE AFFILIATIONS* William (Bill) Jefferson Clinton, BB/CFR/RS/TC; Gerald Rudolph Ford, Jr., BB/CFR; Henry Alfred Kissinger, BB/CFR/TC J; Walter Fritz Mondale, BB/CFR/TC; Colin L. Powell, BB/CFR; David Rockefeller, BB/CFR/TC; William J. McDonough, President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York

BILDERBERG 2004
The 50th anniversary of the first meeting in 1954 did meet in Stresa, Italy 3-6 June 2004. The Conference did deal mainly with European American relations and in this context US Politics, Iraq, The Middle East., European Geopolitics, NATO, China, Economoic Problems and Energy......

Council on Foreign Relations, 1921
THE COUNCIL TAKES NO INSTITUTIONAL POSITION ON POLICY ISSUES AND HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. ALL STATEMENTS OF FACT AND EXPRESSIONS OF OPINION CONTAINED IN ALL ITS PUBLICATIONS ARE THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE AUTHOR OR AUTHORS. Is this a lie or what?

COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, Members
CFR members Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, Dean Rusk, Robert McNamara, Henry Cabot Lodge, and Henry Kissinger overlooked a no-win war in Vietnam after sacrificing 55,000 American casualties. The names of hundreds of media executives and journalists can be found on the CFR membership roster.

THE ILLUMINATI, AND THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS
"The question of how and why the United Nations is the crux of the great conspiracy to destroy the sovereignty of the United States and the enslavement of the American people within a U.N. one-world dictatorship is a complete and unknown mystery to the vast majority of the American people."

THE ILLUMINATI, May 1, 1776
"Now, let's go back to the birth of the Illuminati. Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit-trained professor of canon law, teaching in Engelstock University, when he defected from Christianity to embrace the luciferian conspiracy. Weishaupt completed his task May 1, 1776. Now you know why May 1 is the great day with all communist nations to this very day.

List of the Knights of the Garter
A list of all knights from 1348 to 1939, adapted from Edmund H. Fellowes: The Knights of the Garter 1348-1939, and A list of all knights from 1904 to the present, provided in April 1999 by Christopher Buyers on the newsgroup alt.talk.royalty. Some are: 904 (app 1947) Princess Elizabeth, Duchess of Edinburgh. Subsequently Queen ELIZABETH II; 924 (app 26.7.1958) Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales; & 992 (app 26.5.1998) Akihito, Emperor of Japan.

Initial Membership List of the Knights of Malta
A list of some members: Prescott Bush, Jr.; William F. Buckley, Jr.; Alexander Haig; Cardinal Francis Spellman.

European Templar Heritage Research Network, 1118, home page
In 1118, the two knights along with seven companions presented themselves to the younger brother of Godfroi de Bouillon who had accepted the title of King Baudoin I of Jerusalem.

The Grand Encampment of Knights Templar, home page
The Grand Encampment of Knights Templar of the United States of America is the national governing body of the Knights Templar, a Christian-oriented fraternal organization and an integral part of the Masonic Fraternity.

Initial List of 33rd Degree Masons
A list of some members: John Wilkes Booth; George Bush; Senator Byrd; Senator Bob Dole; Gerald Ford; J. Edgar Hoover; Jessie James; Franklin D. Roosevelt; James Rothschild; Rev. Jim Shaw; Harry Truman; Earl Warren; H.G. Wells

Rhodes Scholars, 1902, home page
The Rhodes Scholarships, oldest of the international study awards available to American students, were created in 1902 by the Will of Cecil Rhodes, British philanthropist and colonial pioneer.

Rhodes Scholars Exposed
What a disappointment. All my life I had been led to believe that Rhodes Scholars and Oxford University were ultimate goals is scholarly achievement. They are quite intelligent, but that is where it ends. It seems that they are trained to be party goers that plan on taking advantage and control of the masses. Their bond is to not reveal their amoral character. Class of 1968: CLINTON, WILLIAM JEFFERSON - CFR - TC. Note: a "- CFR" behind the name means the Rhodes Scholar is/was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, a – TC" behind the name means the person is/was a member of the Trilateral Commission

The Trilateral Commission, 1973, home page
When the Trilateral Commission was first launched, the plan was for an equal number of members from each of the three regions. North American Chairman; Paul A. Volcker served as Chairman of the Board of Governors of the U.S. Federal Reserve System from 1979-87. Mr. Volcker divided the earlier stages of his career between the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Chase Manhattan Bank, and the Treasury Department.

The Trilateral Commission EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
Henry Kissinger, Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc; former U.S. Secretary of State; former Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs.

The Trilateral Commission
"...a vehicle for multinational consolidation of commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States." by Barry Goldwater.

The Trilateral Commission -- A Council on Foreign Relations Front Organization
The Trilateral Commission is a Council on Foreign Relations front organization, established to influence American foreign policy, and facilitate Council on Foreign Relations expansion into Europe, Canada and Japan. The Council on Foreign Relations uses front organizations to protect it from connection to illegalities that could lead to a Congressional investigation.

The Trilateral Commission
In 1973, Jimmy Carter became a student of Brzezinski, and a founding member of the Trilateral Commission. Beginning with Jimmy Carter, all the recent presidents, including president Clinton, have promptly filled their administrations with members of the Council on Foreign relations and The Trilateral Commission.

Trilateral Commission Members
Those in government service at end of list. Latest list available as of 3-15-1999. Former Members in Government Service: Bill Clinton; Alan Greenspan, Chairman, Board of Governors, U.S. Federal Reserve System; Bruce Babbitt, U.S. Secretary of the Interior.

The Bohemian Club, 1872
The club's famed annual gathering has been held for more than 100 years at the 2,700-acre Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, about 70 miles north of San Francisco in Sonoma County. This year's event drew in notables such as former President George Bush, Texas Gov. George W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, retired Gen. Colin Powell, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Dow Chemical Chairman Frank Popoff, as well as actor Danny Glover. There are currently about 2,700 members.

Bohemian Grove
...all-male ultra-exclusive Bohemian Club to which every Republican President since Herbert Hoover has belonged. ...a partial list of some of the prominent members: "George P. Shultz, Stephen Bechtel, Jr., Gerald R. Ford, Henry Kissinger, William F. Buckley, Jr., Fred L. Hartley, Merv Griffin, Thomas Haywood, Joseph Coors, Edward Teller, Ronald Reagan, A. W. Clausen, George Bush, William French Smith, John E. Swearingten, Casper W. Weinberger, Justin Dart, William E. Simon,...Richard Nixon, Dick Cheney.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
So did "His Greatness" give us anything solid, something we can use?....

We can DD and see about institutional investors, if he wants to impress me, fill in the holes with "our place" in the New World Order."
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
hey Sandor... link..."?"
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
don't jack with my Toltecs, lol...

If you believe those books were about dope?

oh, my! you have no business trading in pennyland.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Is Dan Brown in the room? Paging Dan Brown.

I know Robert Ludlum has left the building so let's see is Tom Clancy or Ken Follet around?

Just Joking. Easy boy, down boy. That's good.

GLTA
Wally
 
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The Trilateral Commission (© 1982)
Miriam Camps, Ryokichi Hirono and Karsten Laursen
ISBN: 0-930503-24-4

To order: 64 pp./paper/$3.00 plus S&H

To download Portable Document Format (pdf 4.0MB/76pp)
Table of Contents

Foreword
I. "Trilateralism" and the Governance of the International Economy in the 1980s
Miriam Camps
A. Introduction
B. Six Propositions
II. More Interdependence, More Diversity: Trends and Issues in Trilateral Relations with Centrally Planned and Third World Countries
Ryokichi Hirono
A. Introduction: Interdependence, Multi-Polarity, Differentiation
B. Trends and Issues in Trilateral Relations with Centrally Planned Economies
C. Trends and Issues in Trilateral Relations with Third World Countries
III. The Inflation-Unemployment Nexus: Policy Choices and Growth Prospects for the Trilateral Countries in the 1980s
Karsten Laursen
A. Introduction
B. Policy Priorities in the 1970s
C. Trade-Off Between Full Employment and Stable Prices: The International Element in the Phillips Curve
D. Two Policy Implications
E. Prospects for the 1980s
F. Statistical Appendix

Text of Foreword

The broad purpose of this project has been a reexamination of "trilateralism" in the prospective world economy of the 1980s -- a world economy that has already changed in considerable ways since the Trilateral Commission was conceived in the early 1970s.

"There are grounds for questioning some of the assumptions underlying the 'trilateralism' of the seventies and for suggesting that we may be better served by a somewhat different conception in the eighties," Miriam Camps writes in the opening essay; and she goes on to sketch six broad "propositions" about the governance of the international economy in the 1980s. First is the need for a "new multilateralism" that reaches for a modified set of rules acceptable to almost all countries (particularly rules for the management of money and conduct of trade) while allowing special or additional arrangements for various clusters of countries, consistent with the global framework. A few relatively effective global organizations -- the IMF, IBRD and GATT in particular -- need to be strengthened to provide overall surveillance of these special or additional rules and also to help provide the kind of "leadership and steering" the system requires, buttressed by "key countries" (not always trilateral ones) that will vary over time and according to the issue at hand. "Gradually moving some of the advanced-country consultation and coordination of policy that is now carried on in the OECD and at the Summit to inner groups within the IMF and GATT should help to ensure that the needs of the wider system and of other countries are given more adequate consideration. It should also make it rather easy to add, and perhaps subtract, countries from these key-nation inner groups as changes in the economic weight of countries make this desirable."

The Camps argument rests partly on the perception that the trilateral countries are becoming less distinguishable from the rest of the world. Continuing differentiation within the "First World" group -- and Second and Third Worlds as well -- is making it less useful to think of countries in these terms. Important new actors are emerging beyond the trilateral countries -- sometimes with different ideas about how the world economy should be organized. These themes are also prominent in the essay by Ryokichi Hirono, "The traditional intragroup bonds that have bound the OECD countries, the Group of 77, and the centrally-planned economies will continue to be eroded away in the 1980s," he argues. "Attempts will certainly be made by those central to these traditional international groupings to re-cement the old ties.... The logic of the growing multi-polar world, however, will continue to brush aside such attempts. Nations will negotiate in different coalitions on different global issues, cutting across existing power groupings." Hirono projects a higher degree of economic interdependence between trilateral and both centrally-planned and Third World countries, and he sees increasing economic and political diversity in both of the latter groupings. Within the Third World, he concentrates on the OPEC countries, the NICS, and the low-income countries, laying out some of the challenges each will present in this decade. "The 1980s will be an era of negotiation among countries and groups of countries and we will experience continuing birthpains in seeking a new set of principles and rules suitable for governing international conduct in a more multi-polar world economy."

While the Hirono and Camps essays both stress the intensification of interdependence beyond the trilateral regions, the Karsten Laursen essay suggests a new dimension of interdependence among the trilateral countries: Recent empirical analysis indicates "a large international element in the rate of wage inflation" in OECD countries. Such a link among the OECD economies carries important policy implications. For instance, "if a country pursues contractionary policies to reduce inflation, the international wage link operates in such a way that the process becomes even more painful" because the wage inflation imported from abroad necessitates even sharper contractionary policies to accomplish the domestic inflation-reduction goal. At the global level, a wage link of this nature casts additional doubt on some of the supposed economic virtues for the industrial countries of international "pump-priming", such as through massive transfers to developing countries. "While it is true that an increase in demand from the developing countries will have an expansionary impact in the industrial countries, it does not follow that this expansion will be any less inflationary than domestic 'pump-priming'. In fact there will be a reverse tendency if, as suggested above, there is an external element in wage inflation in the OECD countries. This international linkage will hold back the inflationary impact of expansionary measures in an individual country, whereas this brake will not be at work if the increase in demand is distributed over the whole OECD area, as will be the case if it originates in the developing countries as a result of international 'pump-priming'." Laursen makes these points about OECD-level and global-level interdependence in the course of an essay on the inflation-unemployment nexus in the industrial countries. He is very critical of the current emphasis on contractionary measures to bring down inflation, and argues "an urgent need for supplementary policy instruments. Most important among these is a policy of wage restraint.... To the extent that expectations in wage formation contain an international element, a national wages policy is likely to be greatly facilitated if it becomes an integral part of the policy arsenal in all industrial countries."

We have departed from our usual practice in this booklet and present three essays -- the first by the North American author; the second by the Japanese author; and the third by the European author. Each author acknowledges his or her debt to the range of individuals with whom they each discussed the general themes or actual drafts of their separate papers, though the responsibility for each paper remains that of the individual author alone. Unlike our usual practice, the authors share no collective responsibility for each other's views.

The authors first met in June 1980 in Paris to discuss the overall outline of the project. In the early fall of 1980, Hirono prepared his first draft, on which some consultations were held in each of the three regions. Laursen prepared his first draft in November, which was discussed at the meeting of European members of the Trilateral Commission in Dublin late that month. Camps' first draft was completed in early January 1981. Revised drafts of each of the three papers were discussed at the Trilateral Commission meeting in Washington at the end of March. In the months that followed, each author completed the final draft of his or her essay. Laursen held consultations in Tokyo at the end of June. Camps came to New York for a discussion of her draft in October. The editing of the three papers was completed in January 1982.

CHARLES B. HECK, North American Secretary
PAUL REVAY, European Secretary
TADASHI YAMAMOTO, Japanese Secretary

Authors
(titles at time of publication)

Miriam Camps, Fellow, Wolfson College, Cambridge University.
Ryokichi Hirono, Professor of Economics, Seikei University.
Karsten Laursen, Professor of Economics, Aarhus University.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Chart...the "King" really gave us peasants little to grasp...not even any riddles...
I have really just wasted my time listening...BUT...at least I won't have to spend a long time catching up on the reading of this thread...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
LOL, everytime I log into this website I hold my breath. I never quite know what new direction we'll end up going. I really thought we peaked with Tut, but damn, this is like icing on the cake. If someone doesn't step up and write a book about all this stuff, it'll be a crime!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Sandor...can you post links to that stuff?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
don't jack with my Toltecs, lol...

If you believe those books were about dope?

oh, my! you have no business trading in pennyland.

dope? heck no...

dopers don't spend a year planting datura root in special places and then sew lizards eyes and mouths shut just to ask them where they lost a library book...

his problem IMO? Carlos didn't take it seriously enough from the beginning...
he didn't have the underlying belief systems to deal with what he learned...

lots of that going 'round...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Thx 10!

Ya Sandor, want to see the "where" this is coming from please...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
OT:

quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
don't jack with my Toltecs, lol...

If you believe those books were about dope?

oh, my! you have no business trading in pennyland.

I particularly enjoyed the metaphysical aspects of the books and the mythology. Being part Mexican I have been exposed to the mythology of Brujas and Brujo's which in english would translate to medicine men/women or even witches/warlocks but it does lose a lot in translation. The drugs were to expand ones perception of reality.

GLTA
Wally
 
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Trilateral Commission Members

April 10, 2003

Krister Ahlstrom, Chairman, Ahlstrom Corp. Helsinki
Madelaine K. Albright, former Secretary of State
Paul Arthur Allaire, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Xerox Corporation
Graham Allison, Director, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Prof. Of Gov., Harvard.
Edmond Alphandery, Chairman, Caisse Nationale de Prevoyance, Paris
Dwayne 0. Andreas, Chairman of the Board, Archer Daniels Midland Company
Stelios Argyros, former Member of the European Parliament
Michael Armacost, President, The Brookings Institution; former U.S. Ambassador to Japan
Jarzy Baczynsk, editor-in-chief, Polityka, Warsaw
Euan Baird, Chairman, Schumberger Limited
Piero Bassetti, former Chairman, Chamber of Commerce and Industry of Milan
Riley P. Bechtel, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Bechtel Group, Inc.
Erik Belfrage, senior vice President, Skandivanviska Enslikda Banken, Stockholm
C. Fred Bergsten, Director, Institute for International Economics; former U.S. Assistant
Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs
Susan V. Berresford, President, Ford Foundation
Carl Bildt, Member of Swedish Parliament
Lord Conrad M. Black of Crossharbour, Chairman of Hollinger International
Geoffrey T. Boisi, vice Chairman, JPMorgan Chase
Stephen W. Bosworth, former ambassador to the Republic of Korea
Ana Patricia Botin, Chairman, Banesto, Madrid
Jacques Bougie, President and Chief Executive Officer, Alcoa Aluminum Limited, Montreal
Jorge Braga de Macedo, President of the Development Center, Paris
Lord Brittan, vice Chairman, UBS Warburg, London
Harold Brown, Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies; former U.S. Secretary of State
John H. Bryan, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Sara Lee Corporation
Zbigniew Brzezinski, Counselor Center for Strategic and International Studies; Robert Osgood Professor of American Foreign Affairs, Paul Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University; former U.S. Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs
Robin Buchanan, senior partner, Brain & Company, London
James E. Burke, Chairman, CEO Em., Johnson & Johnson
Sven Burmester, writer and explorer, Denmark
George Herbert Walker Bush, former President of the USA
D. Wayne Calloway, Chairman, CEO, Pepsico
Kurt Campbell, Senior Vice President and Director, International Security Program, CSIS
Frank C. Carlucci, Vice Chmn., The Carlyle Group
Herve de Carmoy, partner, Rhone Group, New York & Paris
Gerhard Casper, President Emeritus, Stanford University
Domingo F. Cavallo, President, Accion por la Republica, Buenos Aires
John H. Chafee, Member of United States Senate (now retiring)
Morris Chang, Chairman, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufactoring, Taipei
Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States; former Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer Halliburton Co.; U.S. Secretary of Defense
William Jefferson Clinton, President of the UNited States
Cho Suck-Rai, Chairman, Hyosung Corporation, Seoul, South Korea
Marshall A. Cohen, Counsel, Cassels Brock & Blackwell, Barristers and Solicitors, Toronto
William S. Cohen (R-Me)
William T. Coleman, Jr., Senior Partner O'Melveny & Myers; former U.S. Secretary of Transportation
William T. Coleman III, Chairman, BEA Systems, Inc., San Jose, Ca.
Timothy C. Collins, chief Executive officer, Ripplewood Holdings, New York
Richard Conroy, Chairman, Conroy Diamonds & Gold, Dublin
Richard N. Cooper, Maurits C. Boas Professor of lnternational Economics, Harvard University;
former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Economic Affairs
E. Gerald Corrigan, Partner and Managing Director, Goldman, Sachs & Co.; former President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Alain Cotta, Professor, University of Paris
Michael J Critelli, Chairman, Pitney Bowes, Inc., Stamford
Lester Crystal, NBC/RCA
Gerald L. Curtis, Prof. Poli Sci, Columbia Univ.
Kenneth Dam, U.S. Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
Lynn E. Davis,VP, Dir., Rand Corp., Former U.S. Under Sec. for International Security Affairs
Baron Paul de Keersmacker, Chairman, Domo, WDP
Lodewijck J.R. de Vink, Chairman, Global Health Care Partners, Peapack, N.J.
Roberto F. de Ocampo, President, Asian Institute of Management, Manila
Andre' Desmarais, President and Co-Chief Executive Officer, Power Corporation of Canada, Montreal
John M. Deutch, Institute Professor of Chemistry, Massachusetts Institute of Technology; former
Director U.S. Central Intelligence Agency
Vladimir Dlouhy, advisor, Goldman Sachs
Peter C. Dobell, Founding Director, Parliamentary Centre, Ottawa
Wendy K. Dobson, University of Toronto
Husnu Dogan, Chairman, Development Foundation of Turkey
Jessica P. Einhorn, consultant, Clark and Weinstock, Washington Managing Director for Finance and Resource Mobilization, World Bank
HRH Prince El Hassan Bin Talal, President, The Club of Rome
Bill Emmott, editor, The Economist, London
Roger A. Enrico, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, PepsiCo, Inc.
Jeffrey E. Epstein, President, J. Epstein & Company, Inc.; President, N.A. Property Inc.
Robert F. Erburu, Former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Times Mirror Company
William T. Esrey, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sprint Corporation
Dianne Feinstein, Member of United States Senate; former Mayor of San Francisco
Martin S. Feldstein, President, National Bureau of Economic Research, Inc.; George F Baker Professor of Economics, Harvard University; former Chairman, President's Council of Economic Advisors
Stanley Fischer, First Deputy Managing Director International Monetary Fund
George M. C. Fisher, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Eastman Kodak Company
Richard B. Fisher, Chairman, Morgan Stanley Dean Witter
Richard W. Fisher, former U.S. Deputy trade representative
Jorgen Fitschen, Executive committee, Deutsche Bank, Frankfurt
Thomas S. Foley (D-WA)
L. Yves Fortier, Senior Partner, Ogilvy Renault, Barristers and Solicitors, Montreal; former Canadian Ambassador and Permanent Representative to the United Nations
Paolo Fresco, Vice Chairman of the Board and Executive Officer, The General Electric Company
Stephen Friedman, former Chairman and Limited Partner, Goldman, Sachs & Co.
Michael Fuchs, Managing Director, Impex Electronic, Berlin
Hiroaki Fujii, President, The Japan Foundation
Shinji Fukukawa, CEO Dentau Institute for Human Studies
Gabriele Galatari di Genola, Managing Director, IFI and IFIL
Richard N. Gardner, Of Counsel, Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP; former U.S. Ambassador to Spain and to Italy; Columbia Univ.
Lord Garel-Jones, advisor to UBS Warburg, London; Member of the House of Lords
Leslie H. Geib, President, Council on Foreign Relations
John A. Georges, Senior Managing Director, Windward Capital Partners, L.P; former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, International Paper
David R. Gergen, Editor-at-Large, U.S. News and World Report; former Special Advisor to the U.S. President and Secretary of State
Louis V. Gerstner, Jr., Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, International Business Machines, Amonk; RJR Nabisco; Director, New York Times
Lord Gilbert, former Minister for Defense, London
Frene Ginwala, speaker of the National Assembly, South Africa
Joseph T. Gorman, Chairman, Pres, CEO, TRW Inc.
Allan E. Gotlieb, Consultant, Stikeman Elliot; former Canadian Ambassador to the United States
William C. Graham, Chairman, House of Commons Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, Ottawa
William H. Gray, III, President and Chief Executive Officer, United Negro College Fund; former Member of U.S. House of Representatives
Jeffrey W. Greenberg, Chairman, Marsh & McLennan Companies, New York
Maurice R. Greenberg, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, American International Group, Inc.
General Lord Guthrie, Director, NM Rothschild & Sons
Alan Greenspan, Chairman Federal Reserve Board
Toyoo Gyohten, President, the Institute for International Monetary Affairs
Robert D. Haas, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Levi Strauss & Co.
Uwe Haasen, advisory Board, Allianz, Munich
Carl Hahn, vice Chairman, Gerling Speziale Kreditversicherungs, Cologne
Sirkka Hamalainen, Executive Board, European Central Bank
Lee H. Hamilton, Member of U.S. House of Representatives
Stuart Harris, Professor, Australian National University
William A Haseltine, CEO, Human Genome Sciences, Inc., Rockville, MD
Yoshimasa Hayashi, Member of the House of Councillors
Charles B. Heck, former North American Director, Trilateral Commission
David J. Hennigar, Chairman, Crownx, Vice Chairman, Crown Life
Carla A. Hills, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Hills & Company; former U.S. Trade Representative
Richard Holbrooke, Vice Chairman, Credit Suisse First Boston Corporation; former U.S.
Ambassador to Germany; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Canadian Affairs; former Assistant Secretary of State for East Asia and Pacific Affairs, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations
Robert D. Hormats, Vice Chairman, Goldman Sachs Int.
Murray Horn, Managing Director ANZ Bank (New Zealand) Limited
Hyun Hong-Choo, senior partner, Kim & Chang, Seoul
James R. Houghton, Former Chairman of the Board, Corning Incorporated
Claude Imbert, founder, Le Point, Paris
Bobby R. Inman, Chmn., Dallas Fed. Res. Bank
Joichi Ito, President, CEO, Neoteny Co.
Max Jakobson, former Finnish ambassador to the United Nations
Baron Daniel Janssen, Chairman, Solvay, Brusseles
Sir Michael Jenkins, vice Chairman, Dresdener Kleinwort Wasserstein, London
Trinidad Jimenez, Socialist Party, Madrid
Josef Joffe, editor, Die Zeit, Hamburg
James A. Johnson, vice Chairman, Perseus LLC, Washington
Samuel C. Johnson, Director, Mobil Corp.
W. Thomas Johnson, President, Cable News Network
Han Sung-joo, former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Seoul
Vernon E. Jordan, Senior Partner, Akin, Gum p, Strauss, Hauer & Feld
Karl Kaiser, Director, Research Inmstitute of the German Council on foreign relations
Donald R. Keough, Chairman of the Board, Allen & Company Incorporated; Coca-Cola Co.
Henry A. Kissinger, Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.; former U.S. Secretary of State; former Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs
Sir John Kerr, Secretary general, European Convention
Kim Kihwan, advisor, Goldman Sachs
Il Sa Kong, CEO, Institute for Global Economics, Seoul
Kim Kyung-Won, President, Institute of Social Sciences
Aotaro Kobayashi, Chairman of the Board, Fuji Xerox Co., Ltd.
Akira Kojima, editorialist, The Nihon Keizai Shimbun
Marie-Josee Kravis, Adjunct Senior Fellow, Council on Foreign Relations, New York; former Executive Director Hudson Institute of Canada, Montreal
Thomas G. Labrecque, President, The Chase Manhattan Bank
Manfred Lahnstein, former Member of the Executive Board, Bertelsmann, G�tersloh
Count Otto Lambsdorff, partner, Wessing Lawyer, D�sseldorf
Kurt Lauk, President, Globe Capital Partners, Stuttgart
Anne Lauvergeon, Chairman of the Executive Board, Areva, Paris
Kenneth L. Lay, former CEO, Enron Corporation
Jim Leach, Member of U.S. House of Representatives
Cees van Lede, CEO Akzo Nobel, Arnhem
Lee In-ho, President, Korea Foundation
Gerald Levin, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Time Warner
Bernard Lewis, Professor of Near Eastern Studies, Emeritus, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ
Count Marice Lippens, Chairman, Fortis, Brussels
Winston Lord, Former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs; former U.S. Ambassador to China
E. Peter Lougheed, former premier of Alberta
Cees Maas, former Treasurer of the Dutch Government
Ahmad Syafill Maarif, Chairman, Muhammadiyah Movement, Indonesia
H. Harrison McCain, Chairman of the Board, McCain Foods Limited, Toronto
Hugh L. McColl, Jr., Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, NationsBank Corporation
William J. McDonough, President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Roy MacLaren, former Candian high commissioner to the U.K.
Whitney MacMillan, Former Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Cargill, Inc.
Robert S. McNamara, Lifetime Trustee, former Secretary of Defense, former President, World Bank
Antonio Mader, President, San Luis Corporacion, S.A. de C.V., Mexico City
Jessica T. Mathews, President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Abel Matutes, Chairman, Empresas Matutes
Francis Maude, Member of the British Parliament
Sir Deryck C. Maughan, vice Chairman, Citigroup, New York
Jay Mazur, President Emeritus, Union of Neeletrades, Industrial and Textile Employeess, AFL-CIO
Peter Mitterbauer, President, the Federation of Austrian Industry, Vienna
Kiichi Miyazawa, former prime Minister of Japan
Thierry de Montbrial, Director, French Institute for International Relations
Sir Mark Moody-Stuart, former Chairman, Royal Dutch/Shell Group
Jiro Murase, Managing partner, Bingham Dana Murase Salomon Smith Barney Holdings Inc.
Jay Mazur, President, Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees (UNITE), AFL-CIO, CLC
Yuang Ming, Director, Institute of international relations, Peking University
Mario Monti, Director-General, World Trade Organization
Yoshiji Nogami, Former Vice Minister for Foreign Affairs, Japan
Lucio A. Noto, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Mobil Corporation
Joseph S. Nye, Jr., Dean, John F Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University; former
U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs
Shijuro Ogata, former Deputy Governor, Japan Development Bank
Michel Oksenberg, Senior Fellow, Asia Pacific Research Center Stanford University; former Staff Member (China), U.S. National Security Council
Andrzej Olechowski, Chairman, Civic Platform, Warsaw
Michael O`Neil, North American Director, the Trilateral Commission Lucas Papademos, Governor of the Bank of Greece, Athens
Schelto Patijn, former mayor of Amsterdam, The Netherlands
James A. Pattison, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer Jim Pattison Group Inc., Vancouver
William Perry, Michael and Barbara Berberian Professor Stanford University; former U.S. Secretary of Defense
Michael E. J. Phelps, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Westcoast Energy Inc., Vancouver
Colin L. Powell, U.S. Secretary of State
Alessandro Profumo, Managing Director, Unicredito Italiano, Milan
Robert D. Putnam, Director of the Saguaro Seminar; Stanfield Professor of International Peace, Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University
Franklin D. Raines, former Director, Office of Managment and Budget
Charles B. Rangel, Member of U.S. House of Representatives
Lee R. Raymond, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Exxon Corporation
Paul Revay, European Director, The Trilateral Commission, Paris
Gunter Rexrodt, Member of the German Bundestag
Hartley Richardson, CEO, James Richardson & Sons, Ltd., Winnipeg
Rozanne L. Ridgeway, Director, Citicorp.
Charles S. Robb, Member of United States Senate; former Governor of Virginia
Gianfelice Rocca, Chairman, Techint Group of Companies, Milan
David Rockefeller, Founder and Honorary Chairman, Trilateral Commission, Chase Manhattan Bank
John D. Rockefeller IV, Member of United States Senate; former Governor of West Virginia
Sergio Romano, Columnist, Corriere della Serra, Milan
Henry Rosovsky, Prof. Harvard Univ.
William V. Roth, Jr., Member of United States Senate
David M. Rubenstein, Managing Director, The Carlyle Group
Luis Rubio, Director-general, Center of Research for Development, Mexico City
William D. Ruckershaus, Chairman, CEO, Browning-Ferris Ind.
H. Onno Ruding, vice Chairman Citicorp/Citibank, Brussels
Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense
Arthur F. Ryan, CEO, The Prudential Insurance Co. of America
Rusdu Saracoglu, President of the Finance Group, Turkey
Silvio Scaglia, former Managing Director, Omnitel
Henry B. Schacht, Chairman, Lucent Technologies
Jorgen Schleimann, Chairman, The Danish European Movement, Denmark
Guido Schmidt-Chiari, Chairman, Constantino Group
Kurt L. Schmoke, Mayor of Baltimore
Pedro Schwartz, Chairman, IDELCO, Madrid
Prince Karel of Schwarzenb, former President of the Helsinki Federation for Human Rights
William Scranton, New York Times
Raymond C. H. Seitz, Vice Chairman Europe, Lehman Brothers; former U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom
Maurizio Sell, CEO, Banca Sella, Biella, Rome
Jaime Serra, former Mexican Minister of Trade
Roberto Egydio Setuba, President of Banco Itau S.A., Brazil
Donna Shalala U.S. Secretary of Health & Human Services
Albert Shanker, Pres., American Federation of Teachers
George P. Shultz, Honorary Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University; former U.S.
Secretary of State; former Secretary of the Treasury; former Secretary of Labor; former Director, Office of Management and Budget (now Governor George W. Bush supporter)
C. J. Silas, Former Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Phillips Petroleum Company
Stefano Silvestri, President, Institute for International Affairs (IAI), Rome
Lord Simon of Highbury, Member of the House of Lords, London
Gordon Smith, former Deputy Minister of foreign affairs of Canada
Anthony M. Solomon
R.W. Sonnenfeidt, NBC/RCA
Sir Martin Sorrell, CEO, WPP Group, London
Ronald D. Southern, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer ATCO Ltd., Calgary; Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Canadian Utilities Ltd., Edmonton
Myles Staunton, former Member of the Irish Senate
David Stockman, Gen Partner, The Blackstone Group
Peter Straarup, Chairman of the Executive Board, Den Danske Bank, Copenhagen
Barry F. Sullivan, First National Bank of Chicago
Peter Sutherland, Chairman, BP, London; Chairman and Managing Director, Goldman Sachs International
Tsuyoshi Takagi, Resident, ZENSEN (The Japanese Federation of Textile, garment, Chemical Commercial and Allied Industries Worker's Unions)
Strobe Talbott, former Under Secretary of State
Akihiko Tanaka, Director, Institute of Oriental Culture, University of Tokyo
Naoki Tanaka, President, The 21st Century Public Policy Institute
Luis Tellez, Executive Vice President, Sociedad de Formento Industrial (DESC), Mexico City
John Thain, CEO, Goldman Sachs
Jacques Thierry, Banque Bruxelles Lambert; honorary Chairman of the Board, Interbrew, Brussels
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Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hey Sandor,... or is it Ryan?!! LOL ~~

ha ha ~ (all in fun Ryan! [Smile]

Just a link Sandor will be good ~
Thanks.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
No link. Just following the words of king Tut on subpennyradio.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
.... and one day a man shall lose his hammer... and then find it again, but not this day, some day after next ... or possibly next week.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
glass, wally:

lol, I'm not qualified to explain at these levels.

Will say this:
Glass, I *do* believe intent is crucial.

Wally, seriously? forget the dope...only a sideshow.


Very curious balance between what you think you're saying...and what you actually cause to pass.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
No link. Just following the words of king Tut on subpennyradio.

-you typed all that while he said it?!!
hmmmm...
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
my good friend harry has entered the building, and he says this baby is going to the moon and he is twice as smart as Tut.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Sandor = F O S
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Friend Of Somebody
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
no just as reliable as tut
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLIMPICKENS:
no just as reliable as tut

well, ok,...

-prove it... [Smile]
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I haven't figured who is on SubPenny Radio yet. I tuned in late. He is saying some exciting things. He knows a lot about the company and he says that it will go over $4.00 tomorrow and may go to over $8.00 by end of day Friday.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I am not talking about Tut.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
I haven't figured who is on SubPenny Radio yet. I tuned in late. He is saying some exciting things. He knows a lot about the company and he says that it will go over $4.00 tomorrow and may go to over $8.00 by end of day Friday.

Isn't our 10k-zilla due Friday?...

Well yeah then...

Anything else doc?...
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I am listenning now. I'll get back to you later. I promise
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
all i am saying is tut isn't reliable
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
Any predictions on highs or lows for tommorrow, I realize news could make a big diff..,, ????, give me your thoughts on this.TIA
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
He apolagized for things being delayed before, but it was government bs. He says Rufus is one of the best CEO's around. He says he knows that Rufus is tired of screwing around and he wants to get this done asap. Maybe before Friday.
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
just guessing but i think another day like today
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Sorry for the spelling. Trying to do this quickly and listen at the same time.
 
Posted by atthebank on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLIMPICKENS:
just guessing but i think another day like today

Awesome, I love green thanks
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
He says that after this all happens, there will be a pr telling people that don't have their names on the list what they should do.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Nigeria: Bill Gates in Ota, Meets Obasanjo

This Day (Lagos)

October 9, 2006
Posted to the web October 9, 2006

Josephine Lohor
Lagos

World richest man and Chairman of Micr-osoft, Mr. Bill Gates, yesterday met with President Olusegun Obasanjo at his Ota farm in Ogun.

According to the Senior Special Assistant (Media) to the President, Mrs. Oluremi Oyo, who briefed newsmen after the meeting, Obasanjo briefed Gates, who was accompanied by his wife, Belinda, on the Nigerian economy.

She said the President spoke on his administration's achievements in the agricultural sub sector, especially the effort to achieve food security for the country.

She said the multi-billionaire assured the President that the Bill and Melinda Foundation, founded by him (Gates) and the wife, would give more assistance to Nigeria in the fight against poverty and diseases.

Oyo quoted Gates as saying that the foundation would help the country to fight tuberculosis, polio and HIV/AIDS.

He also pledged continuous assistance to the ongoing research for a cure for the deadly HIV virus.

During their two-day visit, the Gates would, under the auspices of their foundation, monitor the progress Nigeria had made in the fight against HIV/AIDS and poverty.

Obasanjo has a long-standing relationship with Gates, who had in recent times shown tremendous interest in Africa and made funds available for the fight against poverty and diseases on the continent.

Earlier in the year, Gates, Obasanjo and British Prime Minister Tony Blair were on a panel of discussants at the World Economic Summit in Davos, Switzerland during which poverty and HIV/AIDS in Africa were in focus.

Gates is chairman of Microsoft Corporation, the worldwide leader in software, services and solutions that help people and businesses realize their full potential. Microsoft had revenues of US$39.79 billion for the fiscal year ending June 2005, and employs more than 61,000 people in 102 countries and regions.

On June 15, 2006, Microsoft announced that effective July 2008 Gates will transition out of a day-to-day role in the company to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

After July 2008 Gates will continue to serve as Microsoft's chairman and an advisor on key development projects. The two-year transition process is to ensure that there is a smooth and orderly transfer of Gates' daily responsibilities.

Effective June 2006, Ray Ozzie has assumed Gates' previous title as chief software architect and is working side by side with Gates on all technical architecture and product oversight responsibilities at Microsoft. Craig Mundie has assumed the new title of chief research and strategy officer at Microsoft and is working closely with Gates to assume his responsibility for the company's research and incubation efforts.

Born on Oct. 28, 1955, Gates grew up in Seattle with his two sisters. Their father, William H. Gates II, is a Seattle attorney. Their late mother, Mary Gates, was a schoolteacher, University of Washington regent, and chairwoman of United Way Inter-national.

Gates attended public elementary school and the private Lakeside School. There, he discovered his interest in software and began programming computers at age 13.

In 1973, Gates entered Harvard University as a freshman, where he lived down the hall from Steve Ballmer, now Microsoft's chief executive officer. While at Harvard, Gates developed a version of the programming language BASIC for the first microcomputer - the MITS Altair.

In his junior year, Gates left Harvard to devote his energies to Microsoft, a company he had begun in 1975 with his childhood friend Paul Allen. Guided by a belief that the computer would be a valuable tool on every office desktop and in every home, they began developing software for personal computers. Gates' foresight and his vision for personal computing have been central to the success of Microsoft and the software industry.

Under Gates' leadership, Microsoft's mission has been to continually advance and improve software technology, and to make it easier, more cost-effective and more enjoyable for people to use computers. The company is committed to a long-term view, reflected in its investment of approximately $6.2 billion on research and development in the 2005 fiscal year.
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In 1999, Gates wrote Business * the Speed of Thought, a book that shows how computer technology can solve business problems in fundamentally new ways. The book was published in 25 languages and is available in more than 60 countries. Gates has donated the proceeds of both books to non-profit organizations that support the use of technology in education and skills development.

In addition to his love of computers and software, Gates founded Corbis, which is developing one of the world's largest resources of visual information - a comprehensive digital archive of art and photography from public and private collections around the globe. He is also a member of the board of directors of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., which invests in companies engaged in diverse business activities.

Philanthropy is now the core of Gates' life. He and his wife, Melinda, have endowed a foundation with more than $60 billion to support philanthropic initiatives in the areas of global health and learning, with the hope that in the 21st century, advances in these critical areas will be available for all people.


http://allafrica.com/stories/200610091166.html

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thedoctor:
Sorry for the spelling. Trying to do this quickly and listen at the same time.

been there done that ~

-just hammer it out doc! [Smile]
Doing "graet" [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Book value in the $144 range. Is that possible ?
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
He's talking about a possible $5 dividend on 3 consecutive days being a possibility. This to screw up the institutions selling air shares.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Very doc...

But we have to get there!

Stock prices go up when corporate earning go up.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
This guy is good.
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
still no word on who it is?
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
who is this on sub-penny now??? Mike
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Chartwalker....Try to sign on...I think you might be able to.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Money goes where money GROWS ~

Actually, we figured that a "justifiable" share price is right about where you are talking doc..

The $144 range.

So this does still seem like "some" shares we should throw in a sock drawer and forget about for awhile.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
He says Rufus has some presents for the Shorts that they will remember forever and ever and ever.
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Maybe it's something as simple as "the secret society to be exposed" is the market makers who illegally are short selling. Just a thought!!!

LOL.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
I plan on doing that Chart.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
well doc, have to get up early, was going to try to get some sleep [Smile]

But I'll be dd-ing everything written here, so please leave notes, thanks!
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
He's talking about halting the stock.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Good night Chartwalker
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
hey doc anything else, i can't get on.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Thank you sir ~
-and to you, good night. [Smile]
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
He says this stock is trading like a big board stock, not like a penny stock. Very good sign. It has "balls".
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Slim....This guy speaks better than other that they have had on this subject. Very intelligent.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
The fun never stops does it? Always something interesting going on with CSHD.

I have to sub tommorrow. Hope I'm home in time for the premier of

 -


JO
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
doc if they ever say who it is let me know and ill see what i can find on him
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
This is driving me crazy. I am trying to figure out who this is.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I just got in about 10 minutes ago and don't know who this guy is but he did say that he doesn't know anything for sure. He is speaking for expirence as a trader and talking about charts. Very confident in the stock. Very much against the naked shorter, basher and even some longs who sold feel they made a mistake and then attempt to get others to exit so they could enter.

Talking about the Georgia courts website where people can go to do their own DD.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
wally......He, in my opinion, is very good and knowledgeable.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
More from SubPenny

Not advising anyone to go into debt to buy the stock but if they have money they can afford to invest with that this is the opportunity.

Many people have made a ton of money flipping but it took a strong mentality and strong DD for people to have stayed with this over the past months.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
He does sound knowledgable about trading and stocks


He also sounds very positive
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
He does like to talk. Really isn't giving Simon much of a chance to interject.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Tomorrow should be a better day. No one day wonder.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
He does like to talk. Really isn't giving Simon much of a chance to interject.

lol...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Simon is now talking about other stocks that were IMed to the show earlier. Still don't know who hw was talking to.
 
Posted by SLIMPICKENS on :
 
thanks for the relays wally and doc
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
So the person who was talking is known as mystery man.

So to answer the question of who the last person was, It's a mystery man.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
It was Mystery Man on SubPenny radio.
 
Posted by thedoctor on :
 
Thanks wally....I have to go to sleep...Big day tomorrow for all of us. Everything seems to be heading for a great week. Good night.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Simon says the chart looks good. Stock needs to close above 2.37 if it doesn'y it will channel but that isn't bad. If it can close above $3 that would be great. Doesn't see the stock going to $15 prior to or by Friday. If the momenteum maintains during the next 3 days feels it could go to $10-12 if the shorters stop shorting and start to cover.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
OT: Simon is saying that SLJB is CSHD part 2. He feels the action on it is very similar to CSHD. Feels it won't see .10 again.

Just threw it in because he compared it to CSHD, for what it is worth.

GLTA and Good Night
Wally

PS: His final comment is that no matter what happens with CSHD, it's epic. Everyone that is in it is part of history, never been anything like it before.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I really am going to relax and get some sleep now. Good Luck everybody and I hope for a very green day tommorrow.

Wally
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Glass? Are you listening? Tut is going to lead the fight to put an end to the NS...

Ok, i said i was done guessing who Tut was but this guy comes up on my radar a lot when im digging. Eliot Spitzer, Attorney General in New York. If i have some time ill see if i can connect him to any of the organizations mentioned but im guessing he is involved with at least one.

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/bio.html

Appears to be Mr Humanitarian as well as being named "Sheriff of Wallstreet" by 60 minutes.

Someone find out if he spells flavor "flavour" and we could have a match LOL
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
As far as The Phoenix goes, that appears to be one of the symbols of the Illuminati. The other, of course, is the pyramid and eye. Tut is very manipulative IMO. I half trust him at best. But, since i dont wish to perish i will stand before him for now [Smile]

Ok, i dont want to read anymore. The Illuminati is a spooky group and i sincerely hope they are not involved with CSHD!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
good morning!!! Hope everyone has an incredible day!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Good morning. There was a lot weird sh*t posted on this thread las night. Hope we can keep our momentum today.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Good Morning board ~

wow, no news... "That" was a surprise to find out last night! So we should see more of the same it sounds like to me.

It was good to hear someone talk about charts who knows what to look at also ~ (although we do a pretty good job at that right here thank you very much! lol).

And Rufus in the last interview said something about the Congress enforcing his naked shorting thing that he's about to do?..

-didn't hear that part, -did someone here?

Let's hope for more GREEN today!
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Good morning board. Hope we can keep our momentum today too.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rat you there?...

-got longer term resistance levels handy?...
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Ive resisted selling my shares for 4 months now. Is that enough resistance for ya Chart? [Smile]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Good morning all. Haven't been able to follow much, work seems to always get in the way of my personal life. I hate when that happens. [Wink]

Here's to all of us making a ton of money today! GLTA
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Ive resisted selling my shares for 4 months now. Is that enough resistance for ya Chart? [Smile]

ha ha ~~

That'a boy!! [Smile]

Looked at a 3 month daily chart this morning... wow!

Quick MACD 4,8,8 is at the cross for POSitive.
Default MACD is still pos
TRIX (2line) (3) giving Green arrow BUY signal
Stochastic clearly is bent upward heading for a crossover

"Saaaaweeeet" [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Good morning everyone! Here's to a AMAZING day.....CHEERS.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
morning everyone. I'll take a day like yesterday again how's everyone feeling today. Hopefully we'll get everything we want very soon. Hey chart since I claimed the uncle Rico character does that make you Napolean or Kip? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hey what does "Gapping up " mean? he he [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
Morning board, the links treated me well yesterday:) Some new MMs on top of the bid!!! Could they be a a sign of us going to NASD soon!!?? JMHO
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
gapping up already. bid 1x2.65 ask 2x 2.68
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
morning everyone. I'll take a day like yesterday again how's everyone feeling today. Hopefully we'll get everything we want very soon. Hey chart since I claimed the uncle Rico character does that make you Napolean or Kip? [Big Grin]

OH NO!... [Smile]

Repo had the names in order! [Big Grin] lmao ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
did they take those posts down?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Man, I really like the way things are looking so far!
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Morning everyone, Big gap up already this morn.
Lets hope we break that $4 high today!!!!
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Let's blow through that $2.75 then zero in on $3.12, where we got clipped off (closed) around the beginning of Oct.

We have premarket action and the bid is rising!

Looks like a Beautiful day ahead!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Chart, is 2.75 our first wall?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
did they take those posts down?

guess so....
oh well.

With $$ on the line some people don't like the digs... But the more you trade the more you know it's just people being people, -I have fun with it.

Breaks up the tension ~
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Well at least i can watch premarket and the first half of the day. Damn nice gap up forming so far! [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Now THAT's a GAP!
2.74 and the BID is right on it's butt!!

LOVE IT!

opps.. ask now 2.75 ~
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
2.76
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ask now 2.76
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Chart, is 2.75 our first wall?

10-4

Roger that!

ASK is at 2.76!! ha ha ~
next big one will be 3.12
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
2.76 x 2.77 already on 11 premarket buys, that's a nice .15 gap from yesterday's close.
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
COVER COVER COVER

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!!!!!! [Smile]
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Not fast enough to post the ask [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
this is really gapping holy chit [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
 -

Gunna get you girly shorts, PUMP you up...

[Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
some buys going through at 2.79
 
Posted by tompom on :
 
looks like another great day for CSHD!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Mornin! ... 2.79 x 2.80
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I didn't listen to simon last night. I know he's usually very good with charts technically what did he say about us.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Hows that for a 2.75 ceiling... we'll just gap up past the resistance!! LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
...Time for a little good luck happy dance!

 -
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Good morning everyone! Ready for a great day! [Smile]
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
heh, seeing bid over ask on my regular streamer. I dont see that often. [Smile]

for a few seconds at least LOL
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
trying to close gap, wonder if they will be able to.

No worries!

People want this bad boy!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks like the "Happy Dance" is working Vin! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Where did that 2.73 come from?
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Wow, this thing's all over the place!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Morning all - I sure am looking forward to taking a couple of days off and getting ORGANIZED when this is all over....I might get to read all of the pages at night if that were the case. Anyone care to give a short synopsis of the evening banter while we watch her rise this AM? ;-)
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I don't care about most of the mm's, but I truly hope that whatever Rufus does, it HURTS NITE really bad!! JMO
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Cas, it sounds like you got some NITE angst. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by li on :
 
lol, ask was just below bid...
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Morning all. looking good so far. I'm gonna miss alot of today. Have to take my kiddies for an "underwater" photoshoot – hope it makes for a great Holiday card and get a massage (after all this I really need one.) GO CSHD. Nothing spooky about that! LOL.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Cas, it sounds like you got some NITE angst. [Big Grin]

I think if it wasn't for NITE, we wouldn't even need a reset. Oh well, they'll get what's coming to them SOOOOOONNN. GLTY [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Someone is driving this thing up... can we tell who it is?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
HOLY CRAP!! You guy's see that on L2's..... woohee!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
"They" know what's coming!!!

10k-ZILLA!!!

MUH HU HA HA!!!!!!

Conversion Solutions Announces 5 Billion Euro Addition to Asset Management Portfolio
KENNESAW, Ga., Sept. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation announces the following current events have taken place.

CVSU would like to announce an additional 5 Billion Euro denominated Global Bonds on the Republic of Venezuela with a 11% annual coupon has been added to the companies Asset Management Portfolio. The bond has been loaded in the Euroclear system with the following codes:

ISIN: DE0006106875

Common Code: 012481241
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Looks like the mm's are battling it out! Crazy chit!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Harder than hell to buy
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Anything big in the talks last night, gang?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Anything big in the talks last night, gang?

Not really, just alot of positive talk really ~
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
HOLY CRAP!! You guy's see that on L2's..... woohee!

They thinning em out pretty good? Many in the 4's and 5's range? MURF still at 5?

Told everyone yesterday at 2.24, this is the cheapest you will ever get it anymore. Take advantage cause its nothing but up from here, of course with the occasional drop for lunch and breathing room.

GO CSHD!!!

I'll be watchin some but lots of cardiac material and meds left to study, along with procedures. Have a great day and enjoy the SHOW!!!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Anything big in the talks last night, gang?

Not really, just alot of positive talk really ~
Thanks Chart - I didn't see any major news, but wasn't sure what Simon or others had to say.
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
Good morning all...how was Tut's interview on subpenny radio last night? I listened to some of the interview from Sunday and was very impressed with him.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
let's get that price back up where we had it shall we?!

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YAY RAH RAH CMOOOOOON 3 DOLLAS!!!
 
Posted by li on :
 
ok, skrew it, for the good of us all I'm going to go back to sleep... seemed to work yesterday [Smile]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Good morning all... [Wink] As for simon, well he didnt even believe in cshd and look at him now hes getting so many listeners so hes not gonna bash it plus he flipped made some mo mo but he still has a few hoping its true but still doesnt believe in it plus its better to be on spr than mn 1 lol ...oh well i wouldnt invest in him he isnt that great plus he wouldnt give more free seats cause he wants to make more off of te lil guy? Why? if he made a tonon his flip? come on dont beieve everything he says and what does he really know that we dont...LOL glta
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Voume already 674k shares traded. There the 10oclock dip then back up before lunch. Another lil dip just after with uppity up the rest of the day.

Lets see if I'm close [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
here we are back at our 2.75 ress, testing this again...
we found support at 2.70 today, going for gap close, so there will be some "bumps" here looks like.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
so chart if we break through 2.75 this time what do you think that means as far as new support levels
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
money x3... -the man has balls [Big Grin]

As long as the long term trend isn't wrecked I'm happy (stay above 2.39-ish) a close above $3 would be a show of strength!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
so chart if we break through 2.75 this time what do you think that means as far as new support levels

we still have a good one at 3.12

-but over all i think you REALLY need to start to think......

"Leather or cloth interior??" [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
How do you spell m a n i p u l a t i o n ? ... Oh yah ... that's right ... think the big guns are still coming to pay their dues!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm partial to leather but my wife likes cloth. So guess which one we'd be getting [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I'm partial to leather but my wife likes cloth. So guess which one we'd be getting [Smile]

Wise man! ha ha ~
-with a warm bed!
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I'm partial to leather but my wife likes cloth. So guess which one we'd be getting [Smile]

1 of each? [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
have to pick the battles. I just bought her a new mini-van. I can't believe I did that if you guys new me before parent hood. I'd be like the last guy driving a mini-van and actually enjoying it [Smile]
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
have to pick the battles. I just bought her a new mini-van. I can't believe I did that if you guys new me before parent hood. I'd be like the last guy driving a mini-van and actually enjoying it [Smile]

Amazing how things change, isn't it? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Cat. If this all pans out I think I've found our new house that's priority number one then. Maybe I'll buy myself a new car I like the VW Tourag.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
have to pick the battles. I just bought her a new mini-van. I can't believe I did that if you guys new me before parent hood. I'd be like the last guy driving a mini-van and actually enjoying it [Smile]

Amazing how things change, isn't it? [Big Grin]
With out a doubt Sherri. You know the funny part is I don't really remember what I did before the kids. I'm pretty young so it wasn't that long ago. It just seems an eternity.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
in dip mode now...

Good time for a break! [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
4 pos now [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
"weak"

little vol.
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
have to pick the battles. I just bought her a new mini-van. I can't believe I did that if you guys new me before parent hood. I'd be like the last guy driving a mini-van and actually enjoying it [Smile]

Amazing how things change, isn't it? [Big Grin]
With out a doubt Sherri. You know the funny part is I don't really remember what I did before the kids. I'm pretty young so it wasn't that long ago. It just seems an eternity.
I remember EVERYTHING I used to do - some I should have, and some I shouldn't have, but these days of small children won't last long so you have to enjoy them while you can. There will be lots of "Me Time" down the road...their hugs are priceless at every age.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
love my indicators [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Cat. If this all pans out I think I've found our new house that's priority number one then. Maybe I'll buy myself a new car I like the VW Tourag.

My wife want's a new VW Passat - we've been doing some shopping online - just need the 10-K and I'll place the order. [Smile]
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
NITE,

Do they trade for Atrade? Some good info below about NITE and mm's in general. If some of the mm are themselves a financial institution as Knight Capital is you eventually have to run into conflicts of interest. "Objective to provide liquidity so there is always a bid, ask" ? How can it not be to make money? They trade on the nas. As NITE
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2 neg...
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
Did you guys see this...couldn't have happened to better people!!! LOL

Over the last two weeks, S t o c klemon. com has been the target of a vigorous coordinated cyber attack intended to prevent this site from being available on the internet. This site has been subject to repeated "Denial of Service" attacks and the **********.com domain was hijacked and falsely used as the sender in waves of spam email.
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
Sorry that was in response to -

cassity
Member
posted October 11, 2006 09:37October 11, 2006 09:37
________________________________________
I don't care about most of the mm's, but I truly hope that whatever Rufus does, it HURTS NITE really bad!! JMO

--------------------
-Cassity
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
Did you guys see this...couldn't have happened to better people!!! LOL

Over the last two weeks, S t o c klemon. com has been the target of a vigorous coordinated cyber attack intended to prevent this site from being available on the internet. This site has been subject to repeated "Denial of Service" attacks and the **********.com domain was hijacked and falsely used as the sender in waves of spam email.

lol HA HA~ Too funny!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
gotta love that Vin!

-speaking of which...

"Where are the bashers?!!" LOL ~
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
GO RUFUS GO
GO RUFUS GO
GO RUFUS GO RUFUS GO GO GO

 -  -  -


YAY RAH RAH 3 BUX!!!
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
gotta love that Vin!

-speaking of which...

"Where are the bashers?!!" LOL ~

Maybe Repo is holding his stockholders meeting to get them all on the same page!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Ok guys, what all new MM's are we seeing? We're trying to get more information on where these guys trade (to see if Nasdaq comes up).
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
ahh those smileys freak out my eyes!
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
Did you guys see this...couldn't have happened to better people!!! LOL

Over the last two weeks, S t o c klemon. com has been the target of a vigorous coordinated cyber attack intended to prevent this site from being available on the internet. This site has been subject to repeated "Denial of Service" attacks and the **********.com domain was hijacked and falsely used as the sender in waves of spam email.

Vin my buddy almost got killed on monday when lemon bashed this new stock

UVIH.OB

take a look at the tues. chart. nobody new why the huge drop until way later. now that they know the cause was lemon its rebounding nicely.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
This is wierd, it's going up in spurts...and staying up.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
New2, what was that new NAZ MM?

VKMD or something?...
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
heeeere we goooooo againnnnnnn
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey chart doesn't this seem to be climbing at a much more gradual controlled pace for the last half hour or so. what do you think that's about.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
New2, what was that new NAZ MM?

VKMD or something?...

VNDM
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thecon00:
Did you guys see this...couldn't have happened to better people!!! LOL

Over the last two weeks, S t o c klemon. com has been the target of a vigorous coordinated cyber attack intended to prevent this site from being available on the internet. This site has been subject to repeated "Denial of Service" attacks and the **********.com domain was hijacked and falsely used as the sender in waves of spam email.

Vin my buddy almost got killed on monday when lemon bashed this new stock

UVIH.OB

take a look at the tues. chart. nobody new why the huge drop until way later. now that they know the cause was lemon its rebounding nicely.

Wow, that sucks. Glad to see it bouncing back. You gotta wonder about people who base their buys/sells off of information coming out of sites like that one.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
GO RUFUS GO
GO RUFUS GO
GO RUFUS GO RUFUS GO GO GO

 -

YAY RAH RAH 3 BUX!!!


good mornin' y'allz. i woke the girls up. it's time to get to work.

~BB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hey chart doesn't this seem to be climbing at a much more gradual controlled pace for the last half hour or so. what do you think that's about.

It's starting to take on a trading style of a bigger NAZ type stock.

It's a very good thing IMO..

"SOLID" steps forward [Smile]

see a dip coming
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
http://www.vandham.com/Quality.html

VNDM the new MM

Soft-dollar sales
Third party research
""Institutional Sales and Trading""
Connectivity to Buy and Sell side order management systems
""Nasdaq Market Making""
Nasdaq Agency Trading
Program Trading
Listed option trading
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
Just realized I didn't give the post to NITE:

http://www.*************.com/AboutKnight/faqs.asp


************* = knighttradinggroup

GREAT INFO!
 
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
 
Well, i think its time for meat, cheese and beer. Hopefully things will continue to shine. If they REALLY shine i hope to hear from some people....you know who you are. [Smile]

Thanks in advance
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow those buys above ask forcing it up.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
All righty then... Do we hear $3.00???
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
hey everyone - haven't had a chance to read a handful of the pages - but I assume we are still without news?
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
Daily high again

NOW IT GETS INTERESTING!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
hey everyone - haven't had a chance to read a handful of the pages - but I assume we are still without news?

Yes - you are in the same boat as me (always catching up in the morning). No news yet, but looking good just the same....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
there's our dip ~
it's healthy!
 
Posted by St. Matthew on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Cat. If this all pans out I think I've found our new house that's priority number one then. Maybe I'll buy myself a new car I like the VW Tourag.

Ryan...love that vehicle. I have driven Volkswagens for several years. I am driving a honda right now because of the gas prices last summer. I was thinking just this morning that I might have to trade it in for a black Tourag.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
The girls are doin' good bb! Amazing how the mm's can hide their moves in a flurry at open ... but, now we slow it down a bit, and they behave a bit better! We could have been well on our way to the 4's with "normal" trading underway!
 
Posted by bilgert on :
 
For encouragement check this out LFZA.PK
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/061011/0171227.html

Announced a reverse merger today opened today at .0091, high thus far .15 - but coulda had it 2 weeks ago at .0002! A 75,000% gain

Makes a $15 reset seem tiny in comparison, lol.
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
I think once we get thru 2.95 we will run even though their lining up sells at 3
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bilgert:
For encouragement check this out LFZA.PK
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/061011/0171227.html

Announced a reverse merger today opened today at .0091, high thus far .15 - but coulda had it 2 weeks ago at .0002! A 75,000% gain

Makes a $15 reset seem tiny in comparison, lol.

Would have been nice to see that earlier...even today...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
-can we go up now please?... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bilgert:
For encouragement check this out LFZA.PK
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/061011/0171227.html

Announced a reverse merger today opened today at .0091, high thus far .15 - but coulda had it 2 weeks ago at .0002! A 75,000% gain

Makes a $15 reset seem tiny in comparison, lol.

WHOA ~~

and it up like 1000% today! LOL ~~

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=LFZA.PK&t=5d
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...someone got a little over eager there....
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bilgert:
For encouragement check this out LFZA.PK
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/061011/0171227.html

Announced a reverse merger today opened today at .0091, high thus far .15 - but coulda had it 2 weeks ago at .0002! A 75,000% gain

Makes a $15 reset seem tiny in comparison, lol.

Actually looks like a nice little company that could be worth watching but who has time to watch anything but CSHD at the moment? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Another great day for you longs. Go CSHD. Oh and I can't believe that LFZA company...Why couldn't we hear about that one a few days ago??????
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
LFZA...why couldn't it have been QBID [Smile] .
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
is there a technical term for the small "rests" that are being taken in between activity? or is it just that...rests being taken?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
LFZA...why couldn't it have been QBID [Smile] .

QBID, HUGE share amount, shady CEO... bad mix

CSHD, LOW float, SEC Asset filing CEO = $$$
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
is there a technical term for the small "rests" that are being taken in between activity? or is it just that...rests being taken?

this is a nice short little read for anyone IMO ~

http:// stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/index.html

[take out space]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
http://www.forbes.com/home/free_forbes/2005/1114/128.html

Web logs are the prized platform of an online lynch mob spouting liberty but spewing lies, libel and invective. Their potent allies in this pursuit include Google and Yahoo.
------------------------

Forbes has a nice read here...
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
Can the poor suckers that fat finger a sale (say $1.00 under the bid, that just happened) call the broker and have the sale cancelled or is it a done deal? Just wondering because I see it happen from time to time.
 
Posted by JHenry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by StockterDoLittle:
Can the poor suckers that fat finger a sale (say $1.00 under the bid, that just happened) call the broker and have the sale cancelled or is it a done deal? Just wondering because I see it happen from time to time.

That was a $3000 lesson.
 
Posted by thecon00 on :
 
i did it once w atrade and it went through right away. good thing it wasn't a big loss
 
Posted by islandGirl on :
 
You Fool! That's why the price is dropping! Jus kiddin' [Smile]
 
Posted by StockterDoLittle on :
 
Glad it wasn't me. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
They want us under $3. I wonder why? Could there be some big boys on the other side. HMMMM
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JHenry:
quote:
Originally posted by StockterDoLittle:
Can the poor suckers that fat finger a sale (say $1.00 under the bid, that just happened) call the broker and have the sale cancelled or is it a done deal? Just wondering because I see it happen from time to time.

That was a $3000 lesson.
no the client cant change a order once its a done deal, but the MMs can change it up to 3 days after the order is completed.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
support now at
2.75
2.80
ress
2.88
2.97
3.12 major
intraday levels unless noted ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
lunch break coming up. we did pretty good yesterday during lunch [Smile] hopefully it happens again.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Hey guys been away all day. You're doing a great job.

Keep up the great work.

Still no news i see.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Ok... I was applying buying pressure 2 cents above the ask for the last 45 minutes. My order filled slowly over that time.

Interestingly... I never appeared on the bid... and all orders filled at 4 cents less than my bid. Every trade had a mirrored downtick.

This is a joke. When my order filled entirely... it dropped from 2.84 to 2.81 immediately.

They have the clamps on this!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
chart anything with the charts that's sticking out?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
chart anything with the charts that's sticking out?

nothing major, channeling somewhat...
Indicators are resetting though...

SSSU, one of my old "watch lists" penny's is doing very well, and pulling a "Rufus" on the shorts!! LOL ~

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/061011/20061011005548.html?.v=1
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
From that link:

We believe several Market Makers SBSH and STGI have accumulated a large short position and will have to cover the position or fail to deliver which the new NOBO list will identify the extent of the position.

Registering of Share in Personal Name:

To assist SSSU in protecting your investment in our company, shareholders are requested to notify their brokers to list their shares of SSSU in their personal name and not in "Street Name". If your shares are listed in "Street Name" your name will not appear on the NOBO list and will not be included in the Shareholders Integrity Plan.

----------------------------------

HA HA!!
Rufus IS effecting the market place!!! IMO
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
I just noticed news on another of my favorite penny's GWGO. They just did the 2 for stock split, PPS is now at .0002 AND they have mentioned REVERSE MERGER in the latest press release. I wonder if it could be any thing like CSHD? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
What's starting to happen here with SSSU like with CSHD, is that "knowledge" is bringing many things to light!

Pull up a chart on SSSU and just think how much money "us penny players" COULD BE making if these azzwipes wern't killing the momentum run ups with FAKE shares!

NOW think where WE would be at right here with CSHD!!!!!

Hence my mission in life, that link below: "The BIG PICTURE"

GLTA!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Captain! We NEED more buy pressure! Pleassseee!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
I just noticed news on another of my favorite penny's GWGO. They just did the 2 for stock split, PPS is now at .0002 AND they have mentioned REVERSE MERGER in the latest press release. I wonder if it could be any thing like CSHD? [Roll Eyes]

hey keep us posted ~

we'll need "next play" soon! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Careful with that one...they were on the OTC.BB and went down to the pink sheets during the summer...

quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
I just noticed news on another of my favorite penny's GWGO. They just did the 2 for stock split, PPS is now at .0002 AND they have mentioned REVERSE MERGER in the latest press release. I wonder if it could be any thing like CSHD? [Roll Eyes]


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Going for lunch soon, (11:45 here), Support at 2.80 closest ress is 2.88 now.

Stochastic on the minute chart is around the oversold area so we first have a shot at going up some in the minutes ahead IMO.

See you guys in a bit...

Oh yeah...

If a sell off happens don't anyone sell till I get back!!

Riiiiiiiiiight ~ [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Chart with this NOBO list...since Rufus PR'd about ameritrade and the NOBO...I have sen many many companies getting the list and reporting them...it's unreal... [Big Grin] It's starting to become the "new play"...like bottom bounces and what not...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hi Gang!!!


Can anyone tell me what the so called "new deadline" is on the 10 k???

Is there anything else expected soon???

Was there any midhight appearances or announcements??
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
going down hard this sucks.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I think the actual due date is sat. or sun. so that means they have until monday. and they just took us down like .20 that really sucks it was holding up there very nice hopefully it's setting up for a bigger run.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
What goes down, must bounce real hard right back up! LOL
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Nothing new...
As for the deadline? Seems he has until next Monday...

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hi Gang!!!


Can anyone tell me what the so called "new deadline" is on the 10 k???

Is there anything else expected soon???

Was there any midhight appearances or announcements??


 
Posted by milliam on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
To assist SSSU in protecting your investment in our company, shareholders are requested to notify their brokers to list their shares of SSSU in their personal name and not in "Street Name". If your shares are listed in "Street Name" your name will not appear on the NOBO list and will not be included in the Shareholders Integrity Plan.

I think they have this wrong. The NOBO list was for people who's shares are in "street name" but don't object to have their info forwarded to the company. Otherwise, we won't be on CSHD's NOBO list unless we called for certs.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
arca trying to buy alot at 2.65
 
Posted by li on :
 
wow that's creepy, I went back to sleep about 10:30 everything stableized, woke up at 12:50 on the dot I kid you not... Look at the chart, is there a doctor in the house that can induce me into a coma, then we'd see $100 PPS for sure
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
you have a tack hammer around li I'll help you out. j/k although for 100pps I might have to do it.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
GO CSHD GO
GO CSHD GO
GO CASH GO CASH GO GO GO

 -

YAY RAH RAH GET MOVIN!!! up up up
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hey rat did they just go back and fill a gap from earlier today?
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Hi guys, My dad just called me & said that a little while ago, he was channel surfing on the tv and an investment program caught his attention because they were talking about CSHD!!
My dad could only talk to me for a second but he's what they said about CSHD ON TV:

- somethings going on with this stock
- not "acting" like other pennystocks
- this is one to watch!
-they recommended a BUY!

He's going to call me back later & try to give me info on what show it was. I thought I should shre that with you guys. My dad also said a friend of his went to his broker the other day & told him he wanted to purchase CSHD & the broker said "Good Choice"!

Ok - guys - let's hear it for CSHD!
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Fast turnaround.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I think that there was a gap at 2.60 so they may still bring it back down...but I did think that last dip was what was going on...not sure now...

quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hey rat did they just go back and fill a gap from earlier today?


 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
well, Jenna, looks like your comments are pushing it back up! way to go!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Jenna that could be huge if you find out what show and who was talking about it.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so...what do ya'll think? watching the L2...I think someone put a large buy order in...it's the only explanation that makes any sense...somewhere around 25k-30k shares...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
arca on the bid again bid time
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
gee I leave and it dips hard,...
-guess I won't do that again! [Big Grin]

Jenna, nice find ~
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
so do you think they just filled the gap chart. That's what I was thinking they were doing.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Some decent size buying.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
l2's are jumping all over the place.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
see we bounced off our old friend $2.75

Let's hope this time he does his job better at supporting us!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
We all talk about it, we see it ... here is a good look a market maker manipulation ... (remove spaces)

http:// www. imanet.org/pdf/1832.pdf
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Right on Ryan ~

gap is filled [Smile]

2.70
2.64
next intraday levels to watch
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
hey rat did they just go back and fill a gap from earlier today?

looks like it to me Ryan...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
now I'm very curious as to what show Jenna's father was watching.
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Whats up with QUIN all over bid ask. Just walked in the door and that sort of struck me as odd.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
no chit... National coverage!

sweet ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
I couldn't find anything in any of the CNBC show forums...so I doubt it was on there...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Here is a good website with lots of info

http://www.ncans.net/intro%20to%20naked%20short%20selling.htm
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rat see any snow yet?

Guess we have some on the way tonight here [Frown]
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I hope this thing stops going down...Ready for another upswing......
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Hi guys I'm going to call my Dad again but I don't think he will be able to check what channel it was on until later when he gets home. I did ask him if it was CNN & he said it wasn't. I'll let you know when I find out.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Not supposed to hit till tonight or tomorrow...

Then it's just s maybe...

It's been p[retty nice around here the lastr couple days...

Lots of rain and wind today...the bad chit is commin..

Whats it like in the great white north??
 
Posted by AzGunn on :
 
Just an FYI

Nasdaq `Threshold' Securities for Oct. 10 (Table)
By Wendy Allard
Oct. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The following is a list of ``threshold securities'' from the Nasdaq Stock Market, published daily in compliance with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission's Regulation SHO.

The list consists of stocks for which sellers failed to deliver 10,000 shares or more in the past five trading days and the level of ``fails'' is a minimum of 0.5 percent of the shares outstanding.
# of Consecutive days on the list:
CSHD - Conversion Solutions Holdings - 45 days
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
No snow in Chicago yet, although they're calling for it tonight. Chart, how far up the state are you?
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Its really cold here around 85 [Cool]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm right dead in the middle, marathon county.

Been a little rainy, but beats snow [Smile]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Who is QUIN????? Which broker do they work for??

Anyone...???
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Its really cold here around 85 [Cool]

That's fine, but my snowman can kick your snowmans azz!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Its really cold here around 85 [Cool]

Here too I think its 88....and sunny
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
You SLOB Bigstocks! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Not "Next" Monday... just Monday. October 16th 2006

quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Nothing new...
As for the deadline? Seems he has until next Monday...

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hi Gang!!!


Can anyone tell me what the so called "new deadline" is on the 10 k???

Is there anything else expected soon???

Was there any midhight appearances or announcements??



 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 

 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Its really cold here around 85 [Cool]

That's fine, but my snowman can kick your snowmans azz!
But my beach bunny will melt your snowman
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
My beach bum can melt all you snowmen with some sunshine and a water hose...well, maybe only the sunshine is needed [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Its really cold here around 85 [Cool]

Thhe high her tomorrow is supposed to be like 45...

God I hate winter...

Could be worse...I used to live in Marquette Mich. lotta snow there
 
Posted by dog on :
 
This is just way too freaky. It has to let loose sometime... we'll see a pop in the next couple of days... or hopefully 10k and a real pop.
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:
Originally posted by Vin:
quote:
Originally posted by bigstocks:
Its really cold here around 85 [Cool]

That's fine, but my snowman can kick your snowmans azz!
But my beach bunny will melt your snowman
LOL Damn, you one up'ed me!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
My beach bum can melt all you snowmen with some sunshine and a water hose...well, maybe only the sunshine is needed [Big Grin]

Sherri great minds think alike
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Somebody help!!! Who is QUIN?? Please!! I am melting
 
Posted by dog on :
 
We got action....
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
50000 buy at 2.86
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well my corn will...

Awww crap! There isn't anything cool here. Just flippin CORN! Mid-west bites!!!

Rufas make me some money I am moving the family someplace cool.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Keep talking about bunnies melting snowmen it brought the price back up or maybe it was that 50k transaction. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
QUIN

Park Financial Group, Inc.

TRADING
407-672-0946
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
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Posted by Jenna on :
 
Ok guys I just called my dad a got a little more info (not much) He said that it was a channel on satelite & that it was an INVESTMENT channel. There were 2 guys in suits (they mostly all are)& that they also spoke about other stocks like Gannet. He said he almost choked when they brought up CSHD, (Dad hold lots of shares too).

He also said that a few more things they said were:

- CSHD doesn't act like a penny stock. It's performing like a BIG BOARD stock

- They also said to watch this one (CSHD) because somethings must be on the horizon!

I told my father that I was posting what he said on this board & he said to apologize for being so vauge about the channel & show, he had to leave his house so he didn't pay attention to the channel. He's going to try to find out later.

Hope this helps!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Somebody help!!! Who is QUIN?? Please!! I am melting

Park Financial Group, Inc.

TRADING
407-672-0946
 
Posted by dog on :
 
http://www.nmfn.com/parkfinancial
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
50,000 just went through * 2.86
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
QUIN

Park Financial Group, Inc.

TRADING
407-672-0946

Thanks DOG
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Director - Paul S. Park = TUT?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
LOL
 
Posted by Jenna on :
 
Vin- can't your SNOW bunny bi tch slap his beach bunny?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
2.80 support holds then off to ress at 2.88
 
Posted by Vin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
Vin- can't your SNOW bunny bi tch slap his beach bunny?

LOL Too funny!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
need to break 2.88 ~
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
is there any significance to BGTN and QUIN appearing so prominenet now
 
Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
Please start a new thread with a link to this one.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
everybody do the rufus dance!

 -

LET'S BREAK THIS WALL WOOOOT WOOOOOT!

cmon baby throw me triple dollas! [Razz]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
NOW we need a new thread! LOL !!
 
Posted by jaztile1 on :
 
everybody do the rufus dance!
LMAO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
New thread
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/ f/2/t/013019.html?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LMAO BB move this to the new thread will yah?

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
everybody do the rufus dance!

 -

LET'S BREAK THIS WALL WOOOOT WOOOOOT!

cmon baby throw me triple dollas! [Razz]


 


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