Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 15 Quote: Originally Posted by occidental Mr. Harris, does this mean that until the S-4 is filed these form 144 shares can't be sold?
That is a Fact; But the S-4 filling does not release the restrictions it just confirms them.
Each restriction has a different execution date, depending on when the share was issued and the verbiage of the restriction.
Not all restricted share survive a Merger the New Board can depending on the case cancel the shares with an agreeable legal opinion letter. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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nah, i like to lurk over there. less pressure. he can throw out ambiguous chit and watch em toss it around...
like this:
Originally Posted by techno791 ... I assume that means theres no distinction that they have to stop buys AND sells, it seems like that all is taken on an individual basis.
...Unless restricting buys really is a sideeffect of Reg SHO as I suspect it is.
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Therefore, the 13 day rule.
How close was TDs buy halt to the Reg Sho 13 day listing for CSHD.
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[QUOTE=phil]It was actually some time afterwards. I think your request for the nobo and the knowledge that it would go public that promted them to look like they were reacting to a shortage.[/QUOTE]
YET I SAID: september 8th 11am approx
and it got ignored. and it was fyi, both happened on the same day.
sometimes just to observe is good. late night, sane info flowing...
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 16 Quote: Originally Posted by rwscott01 so these 144 filers must have shares that no longer have the restrictions, or will soon be lifted of the restriction...correct?
Be forewarned of the word “Insider”.
None of the fillers have been an “Insider” for Years.
But ask yourself would you not do the same thing, I would no doubt.
I would register as soon as I legally could; If not just to hold them electronically
Heck most got their share when this company was less than 10 cents, a great return on their investment. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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Try the following topics;
I have work to complete, I will respond to supported by facts post (SEC links, NASDAQ regulations, OTC regulations and Congressional supported laws or proposals …Docs…links…no media releases or Opinions supported by disclaimers (if the web site post a “this is our opinion you can not sue us disclaimer”, lets not waste our time to discuss their contents Please.).
Topic 1:
How can an OTC / NASDAQ Bulletin Board traded stock, Trade Pre-Market Open?
Topic 2:
How can a Brokerage Firm limit buying but not selling of their clients stock? Legally (Securities Laws not Brokerage Firm “You agreed to it when you signed up”)?
(Pre-discussion thought; If action is preformed in clients best interest, of Potential Fraud, Would allowing the client to sell, not be participating in the Potential Fraud by the client and the Broker? Legally that is?)
I will check back in a few!
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Quote: Originally Posted by HititUP I tried my best in blue
I have Nothing but admiration for you Friend!
Not much more to comment on, LOL.
Excellent DD on this Board!
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Quote: Originally Posted by HititUP SerDUMB is the right name for the guy.
144's are PROPOSED SALES. That's why there is a "proposed sales" line and a "shares traded" line for idiots like him.
In a merger (reorganization / acquisition) such as this, No shares to include 144’s can clear the Administrative Hold always placed with the TA on any Restricted Shared (Pre-Merger Restricted Shares "this would also include the restricted shares of (Waatle and CVSU)").
different wording, In spite of 144 Proposed Sales Filings No one can sell shares other than DTC held (electronically held shares) shareholders, remember when the shares in your online accounts started to transfer to CSHD, that’s when you received the merger shares. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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I assume that means theres no distinction that they have to stop buys AND sells, it seems like that all is taken on an individual basis. The next thing to find would be anytype of law or suits regarding the subject.
I'm no longer in college and I cannot afford a Lexis-nexis account, so that won't be easy. But one would have to assume case precident has been set already. Unless restricting buys really is a sideeffect of Reg SHO as I suspect it is.
Therefore, the 13 day rule.
How close was TDs buy halt to the Reg Sho 13 day listing for CSHD.
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Quote: Originally Posted by occidental Mr. Harris, does this mean that until the S-4 is filed these form 144 shares can't be sold?
That is a Fact; But the S-4 filling does not release the restrictions it just confirms them.
Each restriction has a different execution date, depending on when the share was issued and the verbiage of the restriction.
Not all restricted share survive a Merger the New Board can depending on the case cancel the shares with an agreeable legal opinion letter. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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Quote: Originally Posted by rwscott01 so these 144 filers must have shares that no longer have the restrictions, or will soon be lifted of the restriction...correct?
Be forewarned of the word “Insider”.
None of the fillers have been an “Insider” for Years.
But ask yourself would you not do the same thing, I would no doubt.
I would register as soon as I legally could; If not just to hold them electronically
Heck most got their share when this company was less than 10 cents, a great return on their investment. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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Sorry for asking but would someone post this response to Fraud-Street on IHUB.
Thank you in advance.
Fraud-Street at first you got under my skin because you were a good spinster and your network of frauds is fascinating, a well oiled machine that you are part of.
I know that the only way you are going to go away is by a Federal Ruling and I have accepted.
But as late night entertainment I will respond to your fraudulent statements and work your post in to our topic tonight.
Posted by: Our-Street In reply to: abbytraderwin who wrote msg# 80110
Date:9/22/2006 2:10:51 AM Post # of 80207
Things are not always as they appear but Rufus always gives us clues to help us find the truth.
We will escrow the funds for the project and proceed forward after the appointment of a new Board of Directors and Officers," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO
This tells us the true story. Here is what I think you will discover really happened. The Emergency meeting was held because the existing board, Mensah and his associates, resigned. He was not removed unless you call accepting his resignation, a removal. Here is an obvious fact to support this conclusion.
Totally discredited yourself with this one, Just ask Mensah, tomorrow…LOL. I know I know you said I Think prior to real comment
1. Under the best of circumstances for CSHD, GA controlled 60% of the stock in AISS giving it complete control of the corp. Therefore, in order to "remove" Mensah, his own people would have had to turn on him. Given the people disclosed in the PR are all Rufusites, this obviously was not the case. Hence his "removal" would only be voluntary.
AISS was Incorporated by CVSU not GA with the registered agent as our attorney. Should stop your top from spinning that again, yeah right.
2. One does not "appoint" a new board of directors unless there currently isn't one. Directors are elected by the shareholders who then appoint officers. Directors are appointed when vacancies occur.
Sort of true with your typical spin, CSHD has never completed the AISS appointment of Directors, but remember the 7 20 06 PR, the Board of Director for CSHD controlled AISS BOD until the Full Board of 7 were approved by CSHD and appointed by CSHD.
Readers Note; along with the Truths (Facts Contractual ones at that), apply the spinsters comments and you will hopefully start to see how they work, or see the illusion they try to create.
3. If the board of directors is currently vacant, who "removed" Dr. Mensah? That is a function of the board and could not be accomplished if the board seats were vacant, something that is disclosed in this PR.
See response to #2, answers this also
If you simply take a moment to think.. rather than react, you will realize what I am telling you is the only logical conclusion. Mensah continues to actively distance himself from Rufus and he and his people walking away from AISS is simply the next step in the process. AISS is now nothing but an empty shell corporation that Rufus may be able to gain control of but when he does all that will be there is simply another empty shell corporation with nothing in it and no business.
Empty shells are all that exist as a legacy for Rufus.. that and people who trusted him only to loose the money they place in his trust.
GHW Group (for Garner Harris Walsh) Enhancement Holdings CVSU
There were others as well.
Think before you just accept what you read... you must learn to read carefully.. and comprehend..
Readers now notice that the above statements all references and uses about a cats eyes of partial truths, and after the spin tells you that they love you and they are only here for your protection by pointing out the DD that you are missing kind of like when TD’s Attorney called me a month or so ago and wanted to get restrictions release for their clients before the 13 day rule came into effect during a Merger filing.
When I did not respond, they limited, or would the real word be Halt Buying of their CSHD Clients.
Hence your DD tonight, neat little puzzle I think. Cause and effect.
Cause 13 day stopped the legal shorting, with a pre-set non-existent Close-Out date.
Effect TD and others stop buying.
Sorry for keeping you here so late people.
One more Topic if you don’t mind;
#3. What is the relationship between the 1st and 2nd Topics? __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us Last edited by RufusPaulHarris : Today at 03:45 AM.
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Quote: Originally Posted by BigFin #3. What is the relationship between the 1 and 2 Topics?
I'm assuming topics one and two are the responses to the bashers questions?
Topic 1:
How can an OTC / NASDAQ Bulletin Board traded stock, Trade Pre-Market Open?
Topic 2:
How can a Brokerage Firm limit buying but not selling of their clients stock? Legally (Securities Laws not Brokerage Firm “You agreed to it when you signed up”)?
Topic 3:
Why would TD in an apparent Short Squeeze Halt their Clients Buying and state that their systems do not even allow shorting of an OTCBB stock?
If you assume that TD is short, how did they get that way legally if their trading systems does not even allow for shorting?
We can tie in Pre-Market Trading tomorrow! __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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Quote: Originally Posted by fidofunds FWIW, Mensah was invited to that Board meeting but declined.
After his actions I did not even called the poor guy (Dr. Mensah) to tell him that he was fired. I let him hear it from who ever read the PR first and called him.
I really hated to do it, but I had to react to the non-since.
Dr. Mensah is a great guy very intelligent. But Business is Business and you can never let your personal situation effect your business mind frame, the corporate world is no place for emotions, only closure and fast ones at that. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us RufusPaulHarris is online now Reply With Quote
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Quote: Originally Posted by dgambar8 Mr. Harris, was the initial plan to put an encumbrance on the mm's that truly did not believe in what your co. has planned? After proving the solidity of CVSU and getting them to the point to hit themselve, forcing them to come to you for a deal
No plan just a Merger?
I think what you are referring to is the MMs are shorting because they think it a scam?
By our legal system wouldn’t the seller that received money from a defrauded shareholder be the perpetrator.
The whole selling Air thing really makes the topic interesting. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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Quote: Originally Posted by fidofunds Amen!! I have talked with Dr. Mensah many times over the past few weeks and yes he is a good man. He does lack business sense. I cannot say that I was overly pleased with the whole situation but you, Rufus, have always stuck to your word. My only concern now is about the government contracts. Do we still have them and will we be able to profit from them in the future? Thank you in advance if you can answer.
Look every business must start out with a business plan, Dr Mensah’s contract was nice and AISS with the patents that Ga Aero brought to the table is a potentially great and profitable corporation.
But “I don’t like that word, it is usually always followed by a negative” all we need to make AISS successful is our money and DOD contracts. Ga Aero contracts are Sub-contractors contracts, with the products being delivered to a third party for assembling.
AISS can just apply or bid DOD contracts when the corporate structure is in place.
We can arrange for a contract, most people are under the assumption that DOD contracts are hard to get, if qualified a corporation can get sub-contacts reasonably easy.
The contract never had an effect to the financials, no material value until the plants were built and the corporation could meet all federal regulations for delivery. That time frame was always a year and a half out, It is what I have always stated 1 ½ year for AISS to go public after funding.
A far as does AISS still have legal rights to the GA Aerospace contacts, at this point haven’t even made my mind up if the contracts are worth the trouble. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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Quote: Originally Posted by dgambar8 Mr. Harris. If you are still here. Is cshd.us going to be the new website where u have shareholder forums and stuff?? I remember you talking about that. I check that site a lot waiting for it to be up and running. Are you even planning on using it?
Oh I wish that you could see the new template, Shareholder log in, direct purchase abilities, perpetual financials with web and radio cast.
Just thinking of it gets me excited, every time. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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Quote: Originally Posted by ripple 05-16-1966 = 40 yo also and if i owned a company, i think my mind would be elsewhere, say on building the company.
Hey maybe its just me but i am curious.
I have spoke with numerous Chief Executive officers and i don't remember ever doing that on line at 1,2,3,4 in the am but rather on a phone during business hours.
BTW, for the people that think i am out of line asking these questions:
1) i receive NUMEROUS emails DAILY asking me to intervene in this thread, so here i am!
2) this is called DD, it is what one does BEFORE putting your money into a company.
(Not that i am going to play/invest but if you don't want the mods in here asking questions, stop asking!!)
Mike
PS, still would like to here a responce from the ceO.
If you have been through what I have and seen shareholder after shareholder throw their hard earned money a way knowing they were only going to feed the market making beast.
And then one day an opportunity to help ensure that the shareholders of a similar company with the same beast running around get wealth was presented to you, maybe you would post and try to reach every shareholder in any way that you can, but everyone has a different character, maybe you would not.
I will do everything to ensure and protect the shareholders, to include fire a genius CEO of another JV.
I am privilege to be the CEO of CSHD, along with that privilege comes certain responsibilities, when 90 percent of my email are forwarded post from concerned shareholder of a Fraud call me a Fraud on a message board.
One day the Disclaimers ( like the one you have at the bottom of your post) will not protect the people that thru just plain BS or part of an organized effort effect someone else’s decision in the stock market resulting in losses.
I hope my name is attached to the Bill, heck when this is done and I Hire a more orthodox CEO to fit your preconceived perception of a normal CEO, I may just write that legislation and walk it to the hill.
I am all for No shorts selling and T0 settlement. We have L2 why not L2 settlement? __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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This guy just doesn't quit! This is too crazy to not be real! Here is one more post, I have to go to work now About 1 1/2 hrs sleep. This CSHD thing is killer, It better pay off!!!
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Quote: Originally Posted by oilstrike Mr. Harris,
This just keeps sounding better and better. Am looking forward to some long term experiences with CSHD. Q: Since it is the business that I am in, do you think that Conversion Solutions will be joint venturing with any oil and natural gas concerns or more focused toward alternative fuels. The question comes to mind due to the some of the industry backgrounds in your repertoir of management scope.
Huge plans in Oil and Gas, really big, as all should know by now, CSHD does nothing small. __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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Quote: Originally Posted by Journeyman98 Mr. Harris, I'm sure you've been harrassed a lot with this question and I'm sorry for asking it again, but I'm not as confident an investor as some of the others on here (was burned by a stockwussy report once before and he said he was trying to help the avg. investor, BS), but I do believe. My question is do you still intend to halt the stock, and reset the price to $15? It seems as though, to me, that that is going to be the only way you will get the shorters to get the picture! Also, what is the sequence of events that I can look forward to? (pr,filings, halt, 10k, reset, etc...)
should be very close to that order __________________ GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Harris*cshd.us
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Doubt it will be during the day...Rufus knows that it is better to PR things after the bell so that "we" can DD them...and not freak and sell... He also seems to know that stocks do much better if they have a slow steady rise...not a huge spike north...
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: wow!!! Go to bed rufus.... get that 8k p.r. out by noon!! LOL
It was said by someone that he barely sleeps..
usually a sign of great inteligence!!
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Thats alot of 8k's, hopefully many big jv's, subs and possibily more bonds! Looks like a filling and a PR everyday of the week to get the share price running, hence providing investor confidence!
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quote:Originally posted by betting babe: you have a computer in your bed??!!
wow MrCatia you are coooool
does it wake you up in the morning too?
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: One more thing that came to mind as i lay in bed trying to sleep heh.......
Well yea! Dont you?
You never can tell when something is going to "happen" with this stock so you need to keep the computer close. I must have been sleeping deeply though because it didnt alert me when you posted!
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Morning... glad I got some sleep... amazing events in this. Just amazing. If this was a scam it would have to be the most elaborately conceived stock fraud in history. I just don't think so.. too many eyes on this. I have a feeling (and logical DD) that we are about to get PAID.
Mr. Rufus Paul Harris , thank you for your work sir. You are one smart SOB.
quote:Originally posted by dog: Morning... glad I got some sleep... amazing events in this. Just amazing. If this was a scam it would have to be the most elaborately conceived stock fraud in history. I just don't think so.. too many eyes on this. I have a feeling (and logical DD) that we are about to get PAID.
Mr. Rufus Paul Harris , thank you for your work sir. You are one smart SOB.
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good morning everyone. How's everyone doing today? It kind of started the way I thought it would. Hopefully people will realize that the news isn't bad.
Wrote them and asked them what they were going to do about the naked shorting, and this was the best answer that they could come up with, which was nothing...
Thank you for your message. Please refer to the following statement from CSHD:
PR Newswire - September 20, 2006 7:05 PM ET"The NOBO list has disclosed 75,487,085 (Seventy Five Million Four Hundred Eighty Seven Thousand and Eighty Five) shares above the total free trading shares of 30,918,339 of CSHD. The shares are held by 15,184 (Fifteen Thousand One Hundred and Eighty Four) shareholders to include institutions. For anyone carrying shorts and those CVSU shareholders with questions please contact Ben Stanley at our corporate office number, 770-420-8270," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.
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Wrote them and asked them what they were going to do about the naked shorting, and this was the best answer that they could come up with, which was nothing...
Thank you for your message. Please refer to the following statement from CSHD:
PR Newswire - September 20, 2006 7:05 PM ET"The NOBO list has disclosed 75,487,085 (Seventy Five Million Four Hundred Eighty Seven Thousand and Eighty Five) shares above the total free trading shares of 30,918,339 of CSHD. The shares are held by 15,184 (Fifteen Thousand One Hundred and Eighty Four) shareholders to include institutions. For anyone carrying shorts and those CVSU shareholders with questions please contact Ben Stanley at our corporate office number, 770-420-8270," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.
if you do the math? there isn't anything they can do...
75 million to cover? and only 31 million available ...
i keep hearing people say things like they won't have to cover...
i am interested to hear the logic behind that....
the shares have to be bought back by whoever shorted them... sooner or later...
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