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tiagofreitas Member	posted June 04, 2004 11:10 Why is this going sideways? What should we expect in the 9th? anyone? IP: Logged
UserName Member	posted June 04, 2004 11:26 i was reading on another bb and someone pointed out that program designers and insiders could probably do very well by rigging drawings. how can the public be assured that this doesnt happen. it would be nice if everyone was honest and nobody had to worry about ethics but ive seen shows that tell how people in casinos that know the "RNG(Random Number Generator)Code" can cheat very easily. Anyone on the inside would be very tempted to use their knowledge or build ways into the program that would allow them to win a half million dollar house for a buck. It would be sweet if the world was perfect and nobody had to worry about stuff like that but could that kind of temptation really be avoided? Im not bashing because i love the idea of the site and 21st century, ive got 12,000 shares and plan on holding until it makes or breaks. Just concerened on how public confidence will play a roll. IP: Logged
Upside Member	posted June 04, 2004 12:20 originally posted by UserName: quote: i was reading on another bb and someone pointed out that program designers and insiders could probably do very well by rigging drawings. how can the public be assured that this doesnt happen. it would be nice if everyone was honest and nobody had to worry about ethics but ive seen shows that tell how people in casinos that know the "RNG(Random Number Generator)Code" can cheat very easily. Anyone on the inside would be very tempted to use their knowledge or build ways into the program that would allow them to win a half million dollar house for a buck. It would be sweet if the world was perfect and nobody had to worry about stuff like that but could that kind of temptation really be avoided? Im not bashing because i love the idea of the site and 21st century, ive got 12,000 shares and plan on holding until it makes or breaks. Just concerened on how public confidence will play a roll. I suppose anything's possible but I can't see anything like that happening. As far as public confidence goes, at least pertaining to this matter, I would call it a non-issue. I don't believe that most people think that way. If something arises or there is a hint of insider rigging though, it would be devastating to the company and all of it's shareholders. It would probably mean the end of them. IP: Logged
tiagofreitas Member	posted June 04, 2004 14:04 It just wont get past .07.... strange any day now... IP: Logged
CuriousBull Member	posted June 04, 2004 16:23 Yup...I'm right with you dude. quote: Originally posted by tiagofreitas: It just wont get past .07.... strange any day now... IP: Logged
YOuNgFettaChini Member	posted June 04, 2004 20:09 Out of abject boredom....I decided to email both investor relations of TFCT/GZFX and suggested they advertise simultaneously on each other's site.....MONEY, MONEY, MONEEEEY!!! P.S. Worth a try....you never know... ------------------ Learn the difference between a rollercoaster and a ROCKET!! IP: Logged
cuteallay Member	posted June 04, 2004 21:27 any ideas for TFCT next week? IP: Logged
Upside Member	posted June 04, 2004 22:12 I'm not all that optimistic about next week simply because I believe in the old adage, "Buy the rumor, sell the news". When the ads finally hit, I think we might see a bit of a drop because then the anticipation will be over. People will be thinking, "now what"? However, the other side of the coin is that this has happened pretty quick so I guess there's a chance of a rise when they release them and prove they're for real. IP: Logged
webman Member	posted June 05, 2004 00:08 OK people. This sat for quite a while in the .035 range (6 mos). There are a lot of people (400,000,000 worth) that bought in that range. Most like myself are either getting free shares or taking their 100%. I think this is great that we haven't droped at all this week.By the way and correct me if I am wrong, there are less than 200 million "common stock" shares the rest are restricted or insider shares. I have not been on the site for about a week until tonight and I was shocked at how many Items tickets were 50% or less bought up. I am on 65,000 free shares and am not letting them go til this run is over (20+ cents). I do believe with hype that this can go to a dollar. I just hope it does it next week while I am on vacation so I can't sell early!!!! Good luck!!! Greg IP: Logged
TUFFY THE TRADER Member	posted June 05, 2004 05:59 HAVE YOU GUYS NOTICED THAT PRIZEWISE IS GOING TO BE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM ALSO!!!! TUFFY IP: Logged
TUFFY THE TRADER Member	posted June 05, 2004 06:35 quote: Originally posted by roger7485: Tuffy, read a book or two, maybe you will learn to speak a bit better english. And the caps button could go off too buddy. I screamed dilution on the QBID board? No, actually, I screamed R/S because it would legitimize them as a company and bring in advertising revenue, but I guess Frank doesnt want that... Now on to TFCT. Im not SCREAMING dilution, Someone said they had found out the O/S from Troy and I was wondering what it was...perhaps Tuffy the Trader doesnt care that they are dumping tens of millions of shares a quarter. But if my money was in the stock, I bet I would like to know!! Now, on to the paid basher point...cmon dude. There is no such thing as a paid basher. If someone would pay me to post on internet message boards...Id be all over that. But the pure and simple fact is, THEY DONT EXIST! Message me on AIM! Im an 18 year old kid, its not hard to prove. I will even give you my school email address, and you will see that it is my real name, and that I attend Indiana University at Bloomington. Man, people just really want to believe that the evil MM shorters are after them dont they. Truth is, the MM are THERE to short stocks and make a two sided market. Its UNHEALTHY for a stock to run thousands and thousands of percent. But you probably know that because you know so much about trading Tuffy. Id put money on me having a far firmer grasp on the market and how it works than you ever will. Paid basher? Ha. They are not doing it every quarter you moron!!!!! LIQUIDITY AND CAPITAL RESOURCES We expect our cash on hand and cash generated from operations to beadequate to meet our cash needs at our current level of operations, includingthe next twelve months. We generally fund new originations using cash on hand,borrowings under our credit facilities and equity financings. During the third and fourth quarter of 2003, the Company raised $4,629,564by selling 235,730,081 shares of common stock. This offering was completed inthe first quarter of 2004, bringing the total cash raised to $5,000,000 and anadditional 35,300,000 shares of common stock were issued under regulation E.Additionally, Compass Capital purchased 3,000,000 shares of restricted commonstock for a total payment of $750,000. This was part of the commitment topurchase 10,000,000 shares $2,500,000 which resulted in a director representingCompass Capital being elected to the Board of Directors. IP: Logged
TUFFY THE TRADER Member	posted June 05, 2004 06:44 TFCT - 21 CENTURY TECHS (OTCBB) Date Open High Low Last Change Volume % Change 06/04/04 0.07 0.07 0.06 0.07 +0.00 8578200 +0.72% Composite Indicator Trend Spotter (TM) Buy Short Term Indicators 7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy 10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy 20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy 20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy 20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy 20-Day Average Volume - 14002266 Medium Term Indicators 40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy 50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy 20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy 50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy 50-Day Average Volume - 9302958 Long Term Indicators 60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy 100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy 50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Hold Long Term Indicators Average: 67% - Buy 100-Day Average Volume - 10571827 Overall Average: 96% - Buy Price Support Pivot Point Resistance 0.07 0.06 0.07 0.08 IP: Logged
pharmdman Member	posted June 05, 2004 10:54 quote: Originally posted by webman: ... I have not been on the site for about a week until tonight and I was shocked at how many Items tickets were 50% or less bought up ... I was wondering about that too, but then it hit me.... A single PR about going live and a group of investors is not going to make this thing fly overnight... it's not going to generate a huge amount of web traffic... and it's not going to fill the raffles.... but... when they start the national ad campaign and air those tv commercials, we'll see a HUGE influx of web traffic, and consequently, raffles filling up... people will sign on (and sign up) in droves.... that's when we'll see this thing fly... and I don't think it'll happen 30 seconds after the first commercial airs.. they'll have to be seen several times before the average person remembers to go to the site.... remember, people don't immediately sit and surf when they see a commercial, they'll try to remember for later... JMHO though... and if i'm wrong, it just means we go up faster... either way it's a win-win... IP: Logged
$CashMaker$ Member	posted June 05, 2004 13:29 I have a feeling if the MACD keeps increasing and breaks free and makes that rise as it did last october we will see .10 for sure. Come on TFCT. http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/40aa73da_4539/bc/stock_goodies/chart19044.gif?bfjdgwAB9q WSuipU ALLSTOCKS can you please leave this pic up till 10am tomorrow. Thanks, chuck June 05, 2004 12:30 Central time [This message has been edited by $CashMaker$ (edited June 05, 2004).] IP: Logged
roger7485 Member	posted June 05, 2004 13:43 They got less than .02 per share for all those 235 million shares. Think the equity investors will take their quadruple and run from a development stage company? I guess we will see. quote: Originally posted by TUFFY THE TRADER: [QUOTE]Originally posted by roger7485: [b]Tuffy, read a book or two, maybe you will learn to speak a bit better english. And the caps button could go off too buddy. I screamed dilution on the QBID board? No, actually, I screamed R/S because it would legitimize them as a company and bring in advertising revenue, but I guess Frank doesnt want that... Now on to TFCT. Im not SCREAMING dilution, Someone said they had found out the O/S from Troy and I was wondering what it was...perhaps Tuffy the Trader doesnt care that they are dumping tens of millions of shares a quarter. But if my money was in the stock, I bet I would like to know!! Now, on to the paid basher point...cmon dude. There is no such thing as a paid basher. If someone would pay me to post on internet message boards...Id be all over that. But the pure and simple fact is, THEY DONT EXIST! Message me on AIM! Im an 18 year old kid, its not hard to prove. I will even give you my school email address, and you will see that it is my real name, and that I attend Indiana University at Bloomington. Man, people just really want to believe that the evil MM shorters are after them dont they. Truth is, the MM are THERE to short stocks and make a two sided market. Its UNHEALTHY for a stock to run thousands and thousands of percent. But you probably know that because you know so much about trading Tuffy. Id put money on me having a far firmer grasp on the market and how it works than you ever will. Paid basher? Ha. They are not doing it every quarter you moron!!!!! LIQUIDITY AND CAPITAL RESOURCES We expect our cash on hand and cash generated from operations to beadequate to meet our cash needs at our current level of operations, includingthe next twelve months. We generally fund new originations using cash on hand,borrowings under our credit facilities and equity financings. During the third and fourth quarter of 2003, the Company raised $4,629,564by selling 235,730,081 shares of common stock. This offering was completed inthe first quarter of 2004, bringing the total cash raised to $5,000,000 and anadditional 35,300,000 shares of common stock were issued under regulation E.Additionally, Compass Capital purchased 3,000,000 shares of restricted commonstock for a total payment of $750,000. This was part of the commitment topurchase 10,000,000 shares $2,500,000 which resulted in a director representingCompass Capital being elected to the Board of Directors. [/B][/QUOTE] IP: Logged
roger7485 Member	posted June 05, 2004 13:45 Interesting looking chart Cash. Low volume the next week or so will confirm a head and shoulders top pattern. When the big volume comes back in it will see another spike. IP: Logged
$CashMaker$ Member	posted June 05, 2004 13:52 Its an L2 chart from alphatrade. Thanks, chuck quote: Originally posted by roger7485: Interesting looking chart Cash. Low volume the next week or so will confirm a head and shoulders top pattern. When the big volume comes back in it will see another spike. IP: Logged
Bialystock Member	posted June 05, 2004 14:11 Finally got around to registering at prizeWise and bought 30 tickets. Put 5 here and 5 there, on dvd's , a powerbook, a hard drive, an ipod, and presto they were gone before I knew it. Easiest money ever spent. Just from the painlessness with which I dropped $30 there in piecemeal fashion, I think this is gonna be a winner. I'd watch a bid on Ebay for 2 days to ride an auction and try not to overspend, sometimes worried over much less than $30. But at prizeWise, you get a feeling much like a penny stock portfolio (for some). "Invest" at undervalued levels ($5 for an ipod?), walk away and hope to return next month to see a winner somewhere in the pack. People come back to their penny plays, and I think they'll come back to prizeWise in the same state of mind. Just my opinion, but the right half of my brain "knows" I probably ain't seeing that $30 in value again, most likely, but the left side says "who cares, it's fun and you might hit one." Guess which side is winning, lol. GLTA IP: Logged
pharmdman Member	posted June 05, 2004 19:09 Bailystock, I know exactly what you mean...I dropped $45 on there in no time flat... Once the tv commercials start, you'll see many people doing the same thing... some will be one-time-onlys that sign up and play, then forget about it.. others will be hooked.. we only need a small percentage of hooked players... they'll keep it going and spread it by word of mouth... Just one more thing - THAT IPOD IS MINE! LMAO... IP: Logged
Bialystock Member	posted June 05, 2004 20:28 We'll see about the iPod! Lol! Luckily there's like 10 of them on there already. Like I wrote to Steve Rinehart (sp?) after I had minor trouble signing up (I know I should've written to customer service but I just clicked the first link I could find) , the site is addictive and I can see how people will get hooked easily, even coming up with strategies and odds for getting the items they want cheaply. The "odds of winning" generator built in to every single raffle is ingenious, and sure to appeal to the gambler in all of us. BTW, Steve emailed me right back, (twice!) after investigating my sign-up issue personally and even offered their number for me to call him if I couldn't log in. Very nice fellow, seems to be doing a hell of a job. Now if you'll excuse me, my odds-of-winning generator is telling me I have to drop exactly 3 more tickets on that iPod to elbow out Pharm! Peace. IP: Logged
OilMan Member	posted June 05, 2004 21:14 Just singed up and I see what you mean about addictive $70 in a flash! Well guess winning 4 houses in 4 states would be nice lol! IP: Logged
pharmdman Member	posted June 05, 2004 21:30 I'm in Florida, and we can't bid or sell anything over $5000! there goes my chance to double the selling price on my house! P.S.... "ssshhh!... i created another out of state profile for bigger raffles... but don't tell anyone..." I just wonder what my dad will think when boxes start showing up at his house! IP: Logged
TUFFY THE TRADER Member	posted June 06, 2004 07:46 Any opinions on how far this thing will retrace back to this week? Or will it retrace at all? Will the mm's try to cover short positions? IP: Logged
TUFFY THE TRADER Member	posted June 06, 2004 07:59 quote: Originally posted by roger7485: They got less than .02 per share for all those 235 million shares. Think the equity investors will take their quadruple and run from a development stage company? I guess we will see. YEP!!! Thats a possibility!!! HEY ROGER!!! No more name calling from me!!! IP: Logged
WinsumLosesum Member	posted June 07, 2004 08:40 MONDAY, JUNE 07, 2004 21st Century's prizeWise.com Continues to Impress With Positive Responses; Initial Marketing Tests Exceed Expectations �-�BusinessWire 8:38�AM� LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 7, 2004--Steve Rinehart, President of prizeWise, Inc., a portfolio investment company of 21st Century Technologies, Inc. (OTC:BB TFCT.OB) has advised that the companies' website, http://prizeWise.com continues to exceed expectations. Mr. Rinehart said, "We've been running test banner ads on various places on the net for a week, which resulted in higher than expected number of visitors. Of those visitors, more than 5% are consistently registering and becoming new members. Our click thru rates on the ads, and our visitor conversion rates, are higher than what is usually seen. When our full advertising campaign gets underway June 10, 2004, we expect we to receive 250,000 to 350,000 new visitors during the first 60 days, judging from the tests we've run. People are attracted to, and fascinated by, prizeWise.com. The site is operating smoothly, with enthusiastic, warm response by participants. PrizeWise is fun and entertaining, offering its users sweepstakes bargains not paralleled elsewhere." PrizeWise.com offers valuable coupons for sale and the option to the public to obtain sweepstakes tickets. Various sweepstakes contests are offered on the website. The total value of the sweepstakes online is now well over $10,000,000. Numerous sweepstake prizes have already been awarded since the website's opening on May 21, 2004. The public is invited to visit and browse the website without obligation. 21st Century Technologies is a Business Development Company pursuant to the Investment Companies Act of 1940. It holds various enterprises as investments and seeks to grow companies in which it has an interest. Safe Harbor Statement Under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements which are not historical facts contained in this press release are forward-looking statements that involve certain risks and uncertainties including but not limited to risks associated with the uncertainty of future financial results, regulatory approval processes, the impact of competitive products or pricing, technological changes, the effect of economic conditions and other uncertainties as may be detailed in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. IP: Logged
tiagofreitas Member	posted June 07, 2004 08:51 Anyone knows what to expect today after this PR? could do .08 again IP: Logged
Meshoe45 Member	posted June 07, 2004 09:09 quote: Originally posted by tiagofreitas: Anyone knows what to expect today after this PR? could do .08 again OBVIOUSLLYYYY WOOO IP: Logged
pharmdman Member	posted June 07, 2004 09:40 I think we'll see some nice movement, slow but sure, starting June 10... IP: Logged
Shushan Member	posted June 07, 2004 09:59 Very nice day so far... Congrats to all TFCT longs. IP: Logged
CuriousBull Member	posted June 07, 2004 10:03 Alright...it's at .085! IP: Logged
CuriousBull Member	posted June 07, 2004 10:04 might go higher than .10 by the end of this week! awesome! IP: Logged
Tgrant Member	posted June 07, 2004 10:26 got out at .084 and took my profits, I have a feeling theres gunna be a retrace before the ads, I will get back in then if it does happen, if not good for those are still in and i still made $ IP: Logged
UserName Member	posted June 07, 2004 10:32 GO PRIZEWISE, I THINK IT WILL CLOSE ABOVE .10 ALSO, AND IF IT DONT OH WELL, ILL BUY MORE. IP: Logged
pharmdman Member	posted June 07, 2004 10:40 quote: Originally posted by Tgrant: got out at .084 and took my profits, I have a feeling theres gunna be a retrace before the ads, I will get back in then if it does happen, if not good for those are still in and i still made $ Same here.. out at .087.... hoping to get back in before the ads too.... IP: Logged
tiagofreitas Member	posted June 07, 2004 10:58 I�m still holding to it I think it will spike again on close Hope so IP: Logged
Smctbone Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:06 quote: Originally posted by tiagofreitas: I�m still holding to it I think it will spike again on close Hope so Same here...I think we'll see some speculation buying during the next couple days before the ad campaign. I'm positive we'll see 0.10 soon. GLTA IP: Logged
tiagofreitas Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:16 and it keeps climbing slowly.... up up up and away IP: Logged
UserName Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:23 i just sold all my cmkx and plan on dropping it all right here if it retraces IP: Logged
DueDiligence Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:27 quote: Originally posted by UserName: i just sold all my cmkx and plan on dropping it all right here if it retraces Idiot. IP: Logged
tntrader Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:31 Not an idiot. Name calling fool. He is smart. IP: Logged
UserName Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:33 just hit .09 headed to .10 IP: Logged
Smctbone Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:35 quote: Originally posted by UserName: i just sold all my cmkx and plan on dropping it all right here if it retraces I managed to get my CMKX sell order filled at 0.0008 But I don't expect much of a retrace here until after the beginning of the ad campaign...who knows, we'll see what happens this week. GLTA IP: Logged
Smctbone Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:38 wooohooo!! 0.091 anyway, hasn't this thing climbed slowly every day since they launched the prizewise website? IP: Logged
UserName Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:42 quote: Originally posted by DueDiligence: Idiot. thats ok im not offended, Everybody has different strategies, I dont have any regrets walking away with 600% profit. I think tfct has more long term potential. IP: Logged
my$0.02 Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:45 Out at .09...I am also expecting a retrace. Looking to up my position. ------------------ PENNIES are like HORSES, they can take you for WILD rides. But it's nice to be on a PENNY if it bucks! ...... Especially if it 2 BUCKS or 3 BUCKS! IP: Logged
roger7485 Member	posted June 07, 2004 11:48 Looks like an excellent day for TFCT longs Chart suggests retrace to mid/low 8s and then strong buying pushing it near .10 later on today. IP: Logged
stocksrgoingup Member	posted June 07, 2004 12:06 quote: Originally posted by roger7485: Looks like an excellent day for TFCT longs Chart suggests retrace to mid/low 8s and then strong buying pushing it near .10 later on today. What do you mean retrace? I bought in at .063, should I sell it? You thinking it will go back down? Vadim IP: Logged
roger7485 Member	posted June 07, 2004 12:12 I dont think it will go down much from here TODAY. There is a big wall at .095 that can be broken with some strong buying. But over the next few days it could drift downward without more news. The chart is absolutely GORGEOUS on this one. IP: Logged
Smctbone Member	posted June 07, 2004 12:15 quote: Originally posted by roger7485: I dont think it will go down much from here TODAY. There is a big wall at .095 that can be broken with some strong buying. But over the next few days it could drift downward without more news. The chart is absolutely GORGEOUS on this one. Who needs news though...we are all aware of the large advertising campaign that will begin on Thursday. We will probably get news on Thursday with reference to the ad campaign. I truly don't expect much of a retrace, definitely no lower than 0.08, IMO. GLTA IP: Logged
premiumtodd Member	posted June 07, 2004 13:16 They say dont fall in love a stock.. well I am loving this stock lately. .094 high so far today. IP: Logged

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