posted June 07, 2004 13:55            

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
Bailystock,

I know exactly what you mean...I dropped $45 on there in no time flat... Once the tv commercials start, you'll see many people doing the same thing... some will be one-time-onlys that sign up and play, then forget about it.. others will be hooked.. we only need a small percentage of hooked players... they'll keep it going and spread it by word of mouth... Just one more thing - THAT IPOD IS MINE! LMAO...

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This seems to be very much a gambling site. I see a lot of items on this site being overpriced. Therefore, if you bought a ticket for a $200 (fmv) item that is listed at $250, it's a losing proposition. Losing odds never stopped gamblers from placing wagers, so I do see this site having success, but I personally would never buy a ticket for something I wouldn't be willing to pay the full price for. I will try to sell a few things on here early on though because the early rush will allow for some overpriced items to be sold rather easily.

posted June 07, 2004 14:48            

I agree with the fear people may have with the honesty issues.

One thing that is great is that prizewise brings in 16% from every drawing. This is huge profits especially when everything on the site is going for double what it is worth. It would be detrimental to the company to risk a great thing with guaranteed profits. Any scams would eventually get discovered and they would lose it all.

This company really does seem to be a winner for all!

posted June 07, 2004 14:56            

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Originally posted by MCMAN:
i think the winners will stay and play the loosers will go i am selling 1 month after the comercials start i dont think it will go on for a long time no one will trust a web site to pick tickets fairly

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posted June 07, 2004 15:05            

PrizeWise is an online coupon retailer PrizeWise users acknowledge that PrizeWise, its parent companies, subsidiaries, principals, employees, partners and associates are not in anyway responsible for online PrizeWise transactions, or subject to local jurisdictions. PrizeWise users must be aware that they are buying coupons, to which the sweepstakes tickets are incidental. They furthermore acknowledge that PrizeWise is not sponsoring the sweepstakes, but simply providing a forum in which other third parties can, which parties take responsibility for their own actions. PrizeandWise holds the money in escrow for those entities conducting sweepstakes on its site. PrizeWise sweepstakes are void where prohibited, PrizeWise employees and their families may not participate in ticket entry in any sweepstakes sponsored in the Sweepstakes Rewards Program

7. Picking Sweepstakes Winners

It is currently PrizeWise procedure to have an Intel random number generator, seeding by noise internal to the computers’ conductors, pick the winners of all sweepstakes. The winning ticket is chosen and posted the moment the final ticket in entered. This process has been proven highly reliable and perfectly random. If there is ever a situation in which a winner must be chosen by hand (i.e. a site bug, an invalid first time winner, etc...), the winning ticket number will be chosen by the most reputable third party with whom are able to contract, such as our accounting firm or law firm. The sweepstakes information will be transferred to them in a double-blind arrangement (in which neither of us have both the ticket numbers and their owners, or the winner), and they will randomly pick the winning ticket by physically rolling a ten-sided dice, logging each digit as they go.

posted June 07, 2004 15:14            

Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy

Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy

Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 16349724

Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy

Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 10056953

Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Hold

Long Term Indicators Average: 67% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 10920763

Overall Average: 96% - Buy

Price Support Pivot Point Resistance

0.09 0.06 0.09 0.11

posted June 07, 2004 15:18            

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Originally posted by my$0.02:

This company really does seem to be a winner for all!

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posted June 07, 2004 15:36            

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Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
anyone have a guess at a possible retrace for an entry point? I sold back at .07 last week and was hoping to grab some free shares today or tomorrow...boy was that a bad call.

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I'd love a retrace myself... sold last week at .05 due to higher than expected car (EDIT: removed extra 'a' from 'cara') inspection requirements Anyone know if I can sue the state for lost profits? LOL

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posted June 07, 2004 16:21            

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Originally posted by paycheck:
Except for the gamblers/buyers if everything continues to be listed for double it's fair value.

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True, but the buyer is not paying double they are only paying a small fraction. I realize it does affect their odds though. But generally they are hoping for a long shot either way.

posted June 07, 2004 16:43            

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Originally posted by droppinthej:
so do yall see another green day tomorrow or a retrace?

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posted June 07, 2004 16:52            

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Originally posted by my$0.02:
True, but the buyer is not paying double they are only paying a small fraction. I realize it does affect their odds though. But generally they are hoping for a long shot either way.

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posted June 07, 2004 17:03            

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Originally posted by paycheck:
Any long term prizewize buyers WILL pay double (or whatever %age everything is overpriced by) in the long run for whatever they win. In any case, this is for those who want to gamble, because the odds or not on the buyers' side.

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posted June 07, 2004 17:21            

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Originally posted by UserName:
thats why its a sweepstakes, actually 175% of value is pretty good odds. when the local shriners raffle off a car or something you can bet they are making over 500% of value.

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posted June 07, 2004 17:28            

lol, i like raffles and sweepstakes, ive been in publisher clearing house sweepstakes for years and im still waiting for them to come to knock on my door with that big check. I will probably look a mess and half asleep or drunk like all the other winners ive seen on tv lol

posted June 07, 2004 17:32            

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Originally posted by UserName:
also most state lotteries pay prizes 45-60% of revenue generated

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The fact that lotteries (for the most part, until the size of the jackpot actually outgrows your odds against winning it, at which point it becomes a good bet) and other sweepstakes are a bad bet doesn't make purchasing prizewize tickets a good bet.

Free sweepstakes are an exception because it doesn't cost you anything to have a chance to win.

posted June 07, 2004 23:53            

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Originally posted by Tgrant:
Nashdaq, I did the same thing but i got out at .084. I am wating for a retrace too, everytime i hold it retraces if i get out it climbs, Before I trade next time I will let everyone know so u know what not to do

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Tgrant - I KNOW how you feel. I tried to swing ONEV last week and lost. Sold when I thought it was going down (with the thought I would buy lower) and BAM - the alarm goes off all over the world "Breezer has sold! NOW is the time to BUY!!!"

Thanks for being willing to let us know up front about when you are selling. LOL
Appreciate your sense of humor.

posted June 08, 2004 00:00            

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Originally posted by Upside:
Some of you bring up a very interesting point. What are the tax ramifications of winning something big? Let's say you win a house for a dollar. Is that it? How do Federal and State taxes come into play? Anyone?

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posted June 08, 2004 00:11            

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You bet they do!... Uncle Sam will be looking for you. You can be sure of that... it's just like winning the lottery, you're responsible for the taxes on the "income" you received.

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That could be a big nut, or pickle as it were, to swallow. Win a 300,000 house for a buck and guess what? You owe every taxing authority in the land a load of green. Any idea if its based on the actual value of the "prize" or is it based on the price the seller received from his/her listing?

posted June 08, 2004 00:14            

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Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by pharmdman:
That could be a big nut, or pickle as it were, to swallow. Win a 300,000 house for a buck and guess what? You owe every taxing authority in the land a load of green. Any idea if its based on the actual value of the "prize" or is it based on the price the seller received from his/her listing?

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posted June 08, 2004 00:26            

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Well, you'll try to claim it on the purchase price of $1, but you'll be sharing a jail cell with your new husband Bubba.... You actually pay it on the fair market value of the house (or whatever the prize is)... However, can you imagine a bank that would not give you a mortgage for only 30% of the value of the house? (or whatever tax bracket you fall into).

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posted June 08, 2004 00:36            

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Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by pharmdman:
I'll have to talk to the accountant after I win the house, Porsche or maybe even that Harley FatBoy. Hmmmm, Bubba might like the FatBoy!

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posted June 08, 2004 00:45            

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FatBoy?! when did you see my pickle?!

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posted June 08, 2004 00:55            

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
FatBoy?! when did you see my pickle?!

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posted June 08, 2004 01:02            

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Originally posted by Booty Quest:
Everyone's seen your pickle!!!

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posted June 08, 2004 01:06            

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Originally posted by Upside:
I can't remember how many high school first dates I told "as far as a pickle goes, this is a pretty good sized one!"

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posted June 08, 2004 01:08            

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HAHA... just so long as nobody refers to you as "gerkin" then you're alright!..

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posted June 08, 2004 01:13            

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
So what did you think of it?! LMAO

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I didn't.

posted June 08, 2004 01:14            

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Originally posted by Booty Quest:
I didn't.

Haaaaahahaha...oh god... now that's funny...ummm oh wait... oh hell that's not really funny is it?
Seriously though, I thought it was a curly fry. Or maybe a sad little skin tag. Possibly an ingrown hair......

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posted June 08, 2004 01:20            

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
That's not how it sounded when you looked like Ned Beatty! LMAO!

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posted June 08, 2004 01:31            

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Originally posted by Booty Quest:
I can't believe you squealed on me!!!

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LMFAO!... gotta stop this before I get "baaa'aarted"!

posted June 08, 2004 01:37            

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
LMFAO!... gotta stop this before I get "baaa'aarted"!

I'm delirious with confusion after selling my TFCT today... must.... seek.... help..... can't.... think.... clearly......

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posted June 08, 2004 01:45            

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Originally posted by Booty Quest:
LOL! good night, my friend....

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G'Nite, Booty!...

posted June 08, 2004 08:15            

COME ON $.20!!!!!

posted June 08, 2004 08:19            

Market Depth For 21ST CENTURY TECH INC
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posted June 08, 2004 08:39            

June 08, 2004 08:30:00 (ET)

LAS VEGAS, Jun 8, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- 21st Century Technologies, Inc.'s (OTCBB:TFCT.OB) portfolio investment company, prizeWise, Inc., continues to report impressive gains in users at the company's Web site, prizeWise.com. Steve Rinehart, president of prizeWise, advised 21st Century that at one point during business hours of June 7, 2004, there were 3,400 concurrent users on the Web site's server, with an average of 800 on the site throughout the day. "This is just a terrific response to minimal banner advertising," said Rinehart. "When our full promotion program gets underway on June 10, 2004, these numbers will multiply. PrizeWise is taking off like a rocket." Rinehart additionally advised that of 26,000 visitors recorded on June 7, 2004, 20,000 were new to the site, with 6,000 repeaters or members adding to the sum. "There is terrific excitement being generated by prizeWise, more than we thought possible in the beginning."

Kevin Romney, President of 21st Century Technologies, advised that in anticipation of increased site visitations and usage, an additional high-capacity server will be added to prizeWise's UK-based server system. "We don't plan to drown in our own success," said Romney. "We are ready and will be ready for even more."
http://prizeWise.com is a site which sells valuable coupons, with an option offered to purchasers to receive tickets to enter sweepstakes contests on the Web site. The value of the sweepstakes is now well over $10 million. Numerous sweepstakes have already been concluded with prizes awarded since the site's opening on May 21, 2004. The public is invited to browse the Web site without obligation.

21st Century Technologies is a business development company, operated pursuant to the Investment Companies Act of 1940. It holds various enterprises as investments and seeks to grow companies in which it has an interest.

Safe Harbor Statement Under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

The statements which are not historical facts contained in this press release are forward-looking statements that involve certain risks and uncertainties including but not limited to risks associated with the uncertainty of future financial results, regulatory approval processes, the impact of competitive products or pricing, technological changes, the effect of economic conditions and other uncertainties as may be detailed in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

SOURCE: 21st Century Technologies, Inc.

For 21st Century Technologies, Inc.
Troy Lovick, 559-222-9990

posted June 08, 2004 09:07            

remember that Compass Capital financed TFCT at .25 - so to make a profit they must start sell at least at .30 (+20%)
(probably they usually make more on these OTC companies)

hope for higher price - good luck

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Originally posted by TUFFY THE TRADER:
Man,
Look at all the new people here!!!!!

COME ON $.20!!!!!

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posted June 08, 2004 09:35            

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1st Century's prizeWise.com Inundated With Users, Visitors Server Being Added to Increase Capacity
Tuesday June 8, 8:30 am ET

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 8, 2004--21st Century Technologies, Inc.'s (OTCBB:TFCT.OB - News) portfolio investment company, prizeWise, Inc., continues to report impressive gains in users at the company's Web site, prizeWise.com. Steve Rinehart, president of prizeWise, advised 21st Century that at one point during business hours of June 7, 2004, there were 3,400 concurrent users on the Web site's server, with an average of 800 on the site throughout the day. "This is just a terrific response to minimal banner advertising," said Rinehart. "When our full promotion program gets underway on June 10, 2004, these numbers will multiply. PrizeWise is taking off like a rocket." Rinehart additionally advised that of 26,000 visitors recorded on June 7, 2004, 20,000 were new to the site, with 6,000 repeaters or members adding to the sum. "There is terrific excitement being generated by prizeWise, more than we thought possible in the beginning."

Kevin Romney, President of 21st Century Technologies, advised that in anticipation of increased site visitations and usage, an additional high-capacity server will be added to prizeWise's UK-based server system. "We don't plan to drown in our own success," said Romney. "We are ready and will be ready for even more."
http://prizeWise.com is a site which sells valuable coupons, with an option offered to purchasers to receive tickets to enter sweepstakes contests on the Web site. The value of the sweepstakes is now well over $10 million. Numerous sweepstakes have already been concluded with prizes awarded since the site's opening on May 21, 2004. The public is invited to browse the Web site without obligation.

21st Century Technologies is a business development company, operated pursuant to the Investment Companies Act of 1940. It holds various enterprises as investments and seeks to grow companies in which it has an interest.

Safe Harbor Statement Under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

posted June 08, 2004 09:57            

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Originally posted by ryanc:
I held at .04 since march.. then sold a few days ago at .043 to buy another stock.. I'm regretting it pretty bad now

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