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DUH!!!!!!!!!!! I said earlier that I had checked the florida sos site and couldnt find either bhub. I guess if I would have put in the name instead of the stock symbol it would show pretty as you please. I am such a dumba$$ sometimes. TMAN...
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for instance this document has a B#, referencing said CUSIP:
quote:The Depository Trust Company IMPORTANT B#: 1376 - 07 DATE: April 11, 2007 TO: All Participants, Depository Facilities and Pledgee Banks CATEGORY: Operations FROM: Michael Tulaney, Vice President ATTENTION: Managing Partners, Officers and Cashiers SUBJECT: Special Alert Regarding BigHub.com Please be advised that effective April 11, 2007 DTC has suspended all services, except Custody services, for the below referenced issue. CUSIP SECURITY NAME 089865109 BigHub.com Please see the attached press release providing notice that there are in excess of 1.5 billion unregistered shares and the company intends to have these shares cancelled. DTC participants are strongly urged to take whatever precautions are necessary to protect themselves and their customers in light of this information and to notify correspondent firms as well as other potentially affected parties. Questions regarding this notice should be directed to the company or DTC’s Michael Ames at (212) 855- 4535. The BigHub.com, Inc. Receives Information from Select American Transfer Company Tuesday April 10, 8:30 am ET JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The BigHub.com, Inc. (OTC Pinksheets: BHUB) announced today that the prior stock transfer agent, Select American Transfer Company, has informed the Company that there are currently 1,580,847,798 shares issued. The shares issued are 1,530,847,798 more than the legal authorized shares of the Company and 1,559,162,277 more shares than issued per the Company records. The Company believes that the excess shares have been issued as unregistered shares, as defined by the Securities and Exchange Act, of a Delaware corporation unaffiliated with the Company. Select American Transfer has provided the Company with a list of all issuances of unregistered shares which commenced on or about September 8, 2005. The Company intends to engage legal counsel in Florida and Toronto to have these shares cancelled and to pursue the parties issued shares from September 8, 2005 through October 25, 2006. The Company will be pursuing damages in excess of $6,600,000. The Company intends to immediately notify www.pinksheets.com as to the share structure of the Company and provide them with an information statement required under Section 15 (c) 2-11. We believe the information will be available within 24 hours of submission. The Company previously announced that it has engaged Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer, Inc. to handle its authorized stock transfers. The BigHub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB - News) will continue to review potential business ventures or acquisitions during this process. Source: The BigHub.com, Inc.
apparently, what happened is DTCC sent this notice to members, and at least one reissued too its various branches as an internal "global halt."
Or, if you prefer conspiracy theory, the idea was to leak it into the trading community...
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quote:The Depository Trust Company IMPORTANT B#: 8418 DATE: August 16, 2005 TO: All Participants, Depository Facilities, and Pledgee Banks CATEGORY: Operations FROM: Michael Tulaney, Vice President ATTENTION: Managing Partners, Officers, and Cashiers SUBJECT: Special Alert Regarding Bancorp International Group, Inc. Be advised that effective August 11, 2005, DTC has suspended all services, except Custody services, for the below referenced issue. CUSIP SECURITY NAME 05968X106 Bancorp International Group Inc. Please see the attached press releases from the company providing notice, among other things, that “individuals and corporate entities involved with the illegal takeover of the company printed invalid share certificates”. DTC participants are, therefore, strongly urged to take whatever precautions are necessary in order to protect themselves and their customers in light of this continuing problem and to notify correspondent firms and other parties that may be affected by this problem. Questions regarding this notice should be directed to the company, or DTC’s Nick Cerchio at (212) 855- 5006.
Bancorp International Group Inc. Announces Initial Interim Conclusions of Ongoing Investigation PrimeZone via COMTEX Aug 1, 2005 5:53:18 PM NEW YORK, Aug 1, 2005 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- Let it be known that as a result of the BCIT announcement at 10:30 a.m. on 6/13/2005 the company hereby announces the initial interim conclusions of an ongoing investigation. The company has been the victim of corporate identity fraud (click on the URL below). On 4/21/05 via fraudulent documents filed by a "Louis Lesser" with the Nevada Secretary of State, there was an illegal attempt to take over BCIT by Carter Care Inc. by way of a purported reverse merger (5/12/2005). This occurred without the knowledge and consent of the BCIT shareholders and board. Prior to BCIT being alerted of the fraud, there was no contact with or knowledge of Carter Care Inc. by BCIT and its board. Carter Care was subsequently contacted, and a verbal agreement was reached for a retraction in the form of a wire announcement by Carter Care. However, an announcement was illegally made under the BCIT banner and referred to a reverse merger that had never legally occurred. https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx ?CorpID=243077 Let it be known that those individuals and corporate entities involved with the illegal takeover of the company printed invalid share certificates with the legend Bancorp International Group Inc. These certificates were signed by Richard Carter of Carter Care, and hundreds of millions of shares have since been printed. These shares are apparently being illegally sold by market maker Sterne, Agee & Leach, Inc. (SACM) http://sterneagee.com, trading office 980 North Federal Highway, Suite 108, Boca Raton, Fl 33432; tel (800) 930 3536. The Birmingham, Alabama office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation has been initially contacted in this regard. Let it be known that these shares have no value and do not constitute any of the legal equity of BCIT. The official printed and issued shares of BCIT do not exceed 4,890,000 shares which bear the legend March Indy, signed by Thomas Megas. The investigation is ongoing, and state and federal regulators have been made aware of the problem. Attempts to agree to compensation of $2,000,000 for damages have foundered on the issue of criminal liability. The company accepted $50,000 as a partial paym ent to cover initial investigation expenses and as part of an overall settlement for damages. BCIT has not signed nor entered into any agreement relating to any gold or diamond mining venture and has made no announcements to that effect. BCIT has made only one previous recent announcement on 6/13/2005. In November 2004 BCIT commenced bringing its SEC filings up to date and consulted with brokers in the USA and Europe regarding a reverse merger with a European realty business. BCIT hopes to rehire its original transfer agent http://pacificstocktransfer.com in tandem with its SEC filings. On 6/20/2005 Thomas Megas and Martin Duffy were reinstated as officers of the company with the Nevada Secretary of State. On 7/28/2005, Blue-sky Solutions, LLC, having been hired by the fraudulent parties, resigned as investor relations contact for the company. In the interest of protecting current shareholders who may unwittingly be holding illegally printed shares, BCIT will be petitioning the NASD to enforce SEC rule 203(b)(3) http://www.law.uc.edu/CCL/regSHO/rule203.html and effect a "buy-in" by the parties who originally sold the invalid shares signed by Richard Carter and have effectively "failed to deliver" what they represented as valid shares of BCIT. SOURCE: Bancorp International Inc. Thomas Megas President and CEO Bancorp International Group Inc 15 Onslow Gardens Suite 7 London, SW7 3AW United Kingdom Phone: 44 20 78239258 (C) 2005 PRIMEZONE, All rights reserved. Source: Bancorp International Inc. Bancorp International Group, Inc. Announces Share Certificate Forgeries NEW YORK, Aug. 11, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- With regard to the on-going investigation, Thomas Megas, the President of Bancorp International Group, Inc., announced the following statement: "Let it be known that share certificates bearing the legend 'Bancorp International Group Inc' and purportedly signed by Mr. Thomas Megas as President and M. Puig as Secretary are forgeries and therefore do not constitute any part thereof the issued equity of BCIT. BCIT have never issued such certificates bearing this legend." Thomas Megas. President, BCIT CONTACT: Bancorp International Group B. Wakeling 001447961992681
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I believe this was shorted big time in the last couple months-(only way to handle all those order's)- but do you think they have been doing this since 2005? Or just since the spike last month?
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TEX, I read the pdf file at ihub bhub, I put the cusip number and the file number listed on the pdf file at the dtc website. I cant find the doc. I have already had a bad day, lol, what the hell am i doin wrong. TMAN...
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lol, I'm mystified--asked some guys at da hub and they report seeing, but with an updated graphic...suggested I was trying during the update... tried again, even "most recent"--no luck... I'm wondering if they were refreshing the .pdf... weird.
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quote:Originally posted by 5times1: Can someone explain what would happen to my shares if trading is halted? Will the stock price go down after? Thanks in advance.
If it's halted there will be no trading, it's "frozen"....
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quote:Originally posted by 5times1: Can someone explain what would happen to my shares if trading is halted? Will the stock price go down after? Thanks in advance.
If it's halted there will be no trading, it's "frozen"....
quote:Originally posted by 5times1: Can someone explain what would happen to my shares if trading is halted? Will the stock price go down after? Thanks in advance.
If it's halted there will be no trading, it's "frozen"....
quote:Originally posted by T e x: lol, no such thing as bad DD--if it's any good
HaHa Tex!!! I meant is the info that is coming out going to help the PPS or hurt it?....sorry if I wasn't clear....
Ha, Jenna... just kidding...
seriously, it's a touchy situation...hard to say "good" or "bad," imo... ie, good for whom? *might* be great for daytraders, not so much for anyone wanting to plunk down a lil, then ignore it for a coupla days...
Is the DTC notice a precursor to a suspension? or notice to offending brokers to cover so their firms don't get in trouble?
Will the CEO get 15c2-11 filed? If so, DTC may direct a buy-in...weeeeee!
If not, could be grey city...
In some ways it's more interesting to me, personally, than BCIT, cuz the company is much closer to being "up-to-date," as it were...
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Can someone do a summation for this blonde...
Basically all I need to know is.....IS this dd you are digging up good or bad for us? TIA!!
Jenna- basically it's wait and see. Pretty soon it will be sells only everywhere- they need to get off SHO list first. Then it will be suspended- while broker's try to get out of Rule 203. Eventually the "sellers" of the stock into the market will have to buy-in to comply with SEC Rules.IMO I see it as 2 squeezes, so I'm riding free shares to the end. The links tex and tman posted shows a similar situation- so I would submit that it would run along the same lines.(BCIT only had 400m or so counterfeit shares)
Hope that helps. Anyway I'm GTC * .20,.65, and $1. They gotta pay to get them shares!
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HaHa Tex!!! I meant is the info that is coming out going to help the PPS or hurt it?....sorry if I wasn't clear....
Ha, Jenna... just kidding...
seriously, it's a touchy situation...hard to say "good" or "bad," imo... ie, good for whom? *might* be great for daytraders, not so much for anyone wanting to plunk down a lil, then ignore it for a coupla days...
Is the DTC notice a precursor to a suspension? or notice to offending brokers to cover so their firms don't get in trouble?
Will the CEO get 15c2-11 filed? If so, DTC may direct a buy-in...weeeeee!
If not, could be grey city...
In some ways it's more interesting to me, personally, than BCIT, cuz the company is much closer to being "up-to-date," as it were...
Tex- are you saying they would let BHUB continue trading in the grey's...until the counterfeit shares are absorbed? That sucks!
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Thanks Zero, I'm just thinking the shorts will complain to their friends at the SEC & then the SEC will protect their buddies.....then shorters are off the hook...eventually going to the grey's where it's easy for them to cover (or can they cover on the grey's...I heard that they can't but then again we can't believe much of what we hear, can we?)
...and Tex thanks to you also...you are very valuable to this whole board...you keep things REAL....we need that....(now you can blush)...
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ya, suspension will carry a notice to broker/dealers that basically says, if you're gonna make a market in this issue, you're on the hook for any junk...
the company (any company, generically) will have to find an MM willing to "sponsor" them via 15c2-11...or, more simply "form 211"... to get off greys.
What's interesting here is the company seems to be in that process, now...
and, btw, it's not a matter of "letting" it trade on greys--they can't stop it: they can suspend for 10 days, but after that, SEC has to have a different reason for another suspension.
hence, the touchiness...timing is critical here, imo
An aside--everybody knows the CEO (or some exec...can't remember offhand) is scheduled to be on Trader's Nation radio tomorrow, right? That's the Bill Panetta thing...
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Thanks Zero, I'm just thinking the shorts will complain to their friends at the SEC & then the SEC will protect their buddies.....then shorters are off the hook...eventually going to the grey's where it's easy for them to cover (or can they cover on the grey's...I heard that they can't but then again we can't believe much of what we hear, can we?)
...and Tex thanks to you also...you are very valuable to this whole board...you keep things REAL....we need that....(now you can blush)...
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Thanks Zero, I'm just thinking the shorts will complain to their friends at the SEC & then the SEC will protect their buddies.....then shorters are off the hook...eventually going to the grey's where it's easy for them to cover (or can they cover on the grey's...I heard that they can't but then again we can't believe much of what we hear, can we?)
...and Tex thanks to you also...you are very valuable to this whole board...you keep things REAL....we need that....(now you can blush)...
lol...
Jenna wonders about "covering on greys..."
MMs can naked short to "make a market" ie, fulfill their liquidity duties in securities that are elegible...greys are not. Hence, they can't keep shorting...for one thing, remember no bid/ask... but my understanding is they can trade for their own accounts...and thereby cover.
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Tex- I didn't realize they were already looking for an MM, that must mean that they are expecting the SEC to step in & halt.....interesting....
I could be wrong, but that's the way I understand it now. If I were you, I'd listen or arrange for someone to report the results of the interview tomorrow... pretty sure these things will be addressed--well, they *should* be...
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well my buys filled today at 24 and 19, so i just have more now. i figured we would test support, but that seemed like a panic. chart still suggests a strong uptrend to blow away that previous .007.... but of course there are lots of questions surrounding the future of BHUB... well just hang on folks, it just may be all coming together for us. Saw the same sentiment with BCIT and PAIV. GL to you all who are still in!
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Tex- I didn't realize they were already looking for an MM, that must mean that they are expecting the SEC to step in & halt.....interesting....
I could be wrong, but that's the way I understand it now. If I were you, I'd listen or arrange for someone to report the results of the interview tomorrow... pretty sure these things will be addressed--well, they *should* be...
I asked Mister Kermit if he would give me a summary of it seeing that I will be working tomarrow....
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