beechwood. You by on rumor and sell on news. Rumor has it that the deal will be done, so the link was taken down for purposes as stated on Robo web site. When news comes out the rocket will have left the lauch pad!!(imo) Posted by THE DUKE on :
BHUB looking good. Need news!!! Posted by THE DUKE on :
this is funny or maybe not. Someone on I-hub posted that someone just called the ceo and he said this merger may not happen. Well that was all past knowledge that the ceo already posted on the web site. A lot of people sold off on that bash, but made more cheap shares for us. Posted by THE DUKE on :
This chart looks like a perfect tea cup formation. Posted by Jason0352 on :
State of Delaware (302)739-3073 BIGHUB 7 digit Delaware Corp file number is: 3041222 Follow the prompts. Press #1 three times, enter BHUB’s 7 digit followed by the # sign.
A/S IS ONLY 30 MILLION!!!!! This explains why Etrade started restricting buys. The MM's are super short on this 1.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
The AS has to be wrong. This thing traded 202mm shares today. I doubt even the mm's are stupid enough to trade almost 10 times the AS. TMAN...
Posted by Jason0352 on :
That day BHUB traded 1.3 billion shares, everyone assumed that the O/S was in the billions, with it being a triple zero stock and all. The MMs probably were caught by surprise by that 1.3 billion volume share day and simply naked shorted in order to handle the transactions over these past couple days. If you have been watching L2 you will see how easily they uptick this .000 stock.
Posted by chanhous on :
Here's a post from The_Pink_Lawyer, one of I-Hub's top posters! He loves BHUB!
Summary of the MOASS about to hit BHUB! Mother of all short squeezes:
Several posters have spoken with Burke, the CEO of Cyberhand, which is the reverse merger partner of BHUB. These posters report that Burke told them that the BHUB float is 20 million shares. See, e.g.,
Posted by: finisheroffaith In reply to: Wick who wrote msg# 4295 Date:3/21/2007 4:21:22 PM Post #of 4400
BHUB was formerly incorporated in Florida, but pursuant to a 10-SB filing, changed its State of Incorporation to Delaware, as follows: "In May 1999, the Company changed its name to TheBigHub.com, Inc. and elected to change the state of its incorporation from Florida to Delaware. See Notes 6 and 10." See, e.g., http://esignal.brand.edgar-online.com/DisplayFilingRTFandXSL.aspx?Type=RTF&filin gid=514659
That 10-SB filing confirms that BHUB was formerly known as "Coordinated Healthcare" and "Isleuth," which matches the information Pinksheets.com has on BHUB, as follows:
BHUB -- BigHub.com, Inc. (THE) Com ($0.001) Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.
Address: 1051 University Ave. Orlando, FL 32817 USA
Phone: 212-561-0762
Business Description: bhub is preparing to offer online retail and wholesale auto auction where consumers, new and used car dealers, oem's banks, leasing companies, and daily rental companies can buy and sell vechilces as well as offering a full menu of value added services.
Primary State of Incorporation: Florida
Outstanding Shares: Not Available
Estimated Market Cap: Not Available
Current Capital Change: shs decreased by 1 for 20 split Ex-Date: Record Date: Pay Date: 1998-08-10
Dividends:
Company Notes: Formerly=Coordinated HealthCare, Inc. until 7-98 Formerly=Isleuth.com, Inc. until 5-99
As a Delaware corporation, several BHUB investors contacted the Delaware SOS and confirmed that the A/S for BHUB is 30 million shares. See, e.g.,
Posted by: namoman In reply to: None Date:3/21/2007 4:45:21 PM Post #of 4406
30 million A/S COMMON 10 million preferred
To check the A/S: State of Delaware (302)739-3073 BIGHUB 7 digit Delaware Corp file number is: 3041222 Follow the prompts. Press #1 three times, enter BHUB’s 7 digit followed by the # sign. - hint - pressing 6 acts like a fast forward http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=18091774
Posted by: mastershake In reply to: namoman who wrote msg# 4335 Date:3/21/2007 4:52:10 PM Post #of 4405
BHUB hasn't gone ballistic yet because no one knows about the short squeeze. That day BHUB traded 1.3 billion shares, everyone just assumed that the O/S was in the billions. Then folks went off on that reverse merger binge.
BUT, as I have been saying for awhile now, it looked to me like the MMs were caught by surprise on that day and simply naked shorted BHUB in order to handle the volume. I say that because normally, big runs like BHUB had are frontloaded and the MMs know what's going on and can prepare for it. Since that 1.3 billion share day, BHUB has been trading like a low floater. I believe the MMs have continued to naked short, covering some along the way, since.
Now, with Burke confirming that according to his understanding, there is 20 million in the BHUB float and having re-confirmed with Delaware that such a share structure is in fact the case, finally people are becoming aware of the short situation. This is breaking news!
Posted by THE DUKE on :
WOW,WOW, WOW. This is the ticket!!!!!!! Posted by THE DUKE on :
loading up tommorrow funds clear
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Good luck here guys. BTW has anyone contacted the TA to find out how many shares the company has issued to be traded? If so I, as well as the rest of allstock land would love to here what they said. Thanks in advance. TMAN...
Posted by THE DUKE on :
What will happen today with all the wars over this stock onI-hub??
Posted by THE DUKE on :
BHUB running!!!
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
it tripped. lol. TMAN...
Posted by THE DUKE on :
Man I wished I knew who work for theses ******* market makers. I wonder how much do you get paid for being a pumper & dumper!!! Not calling any names mind you, but you know who you are!!!!! Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
I dont buy into the idea that the P&D folks work for the market makers. They are just folks like you and me, sometimes groups that buy in at a very low price and pump it, pump it real good to get buyers in and then dump. there have been many here that have done it and thankfully Bob and crew take care of it when they can. As my little tag line says. only trust yourself. TMAN...
Posted by THE DUKE on :
OOPS!! I apologized for the wording, but I wish trading could be on it's on merrits and not people advertising for their own personnal gain at others expense.
Posted by kermit42 on :
I sent off a fax to the TA. If they respond with the share structure, I will post here. (Sent it at 4 PM today so I don't expect anytthing until tomorrow.)
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
I didnt take offense duke, no worrys. I agree with you. Unfortunately their are greedy bastuds amongst us and will take advantage of newbies for their personal gain. Those people are useless... btw i never heard from the TA. left a message at 8:05 this morning cdt. no response. TMAN...
Posted by THE DUKE on :
thanks tmanfromtexas: what is your opinion on this stock. is this a winner or not. appreciate your input Posted by surgeon of steel on :
were moving...golden cross
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
Vol. over 110 mill.
Posted by THE DUKE on :
BHUB going bigtime!!! Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Duke, IMO its a momo play. Too many things are too hokey. I am playing it as such until their is some additional HARD CONCRETE evidence to sway my opinion. The evidence is NOT what people post on bulletin boards. TMAN...
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
The evidence is NOT what people post on bulletin boards. TMAN...
Tman.. What did you find out?...
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
I am still checking on some things. TMAN...
Posted by Jason0352 on :
EOD rally! .0008 X .0009 3X6
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
I gave up trying to figure out who was what and what was where and who is in bed with who on this one. All I can say is check the florida sos and see the two corps with the same name but different addresses, officers etc. one was gonna change domiciles and supposedly moved to delaware but i dont think that even plays into this as they still filed in florida up until late 1999. one reversed split into another company in 2006. both are somehow intertwined and pinksheets has info about both under the same ticker. I have a headache and I am now going to take a nap. If anyone figures it out let me know. TMAN...
Posted by kermit42 on :
This probably doesn't help, but looking at share price and volume on stockcharts for last year, this particular BHUB did not reverse split.
O/S still a mystery. I'd like to believe there is a short position 50X the float, but that's hard to swallow.
I bought yesterday at .0005 so of course I'm not complaining, but this has now been compared to PAIV at least once and I'm afraid to even contemplate a PPS of .25
Posted by Invaliderror on :
>>>>>>>> How BigHub raised big money and avoided Securities and Exchange Commission scrutiny
OPINION
By Christopher Byron
MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR
May 18 1999
A curious document has been making the rounds on Wall Street in the last couple of days. Across the top are written the words Confidential Placement Memorandum. But what the document really amounts to is a warning of the perils that await investors in so-called bulletin board stocks that trade on Nasdaq's Over The Counter market.
Will investors get little from BigHub? Share your view
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THE PERILS lurk in the fact that virtually no bulletin board stocks are required to file financial reports with shareholders or the Securities & Exchange Commission. And that in turn means that people often have nothing to base their investment decisions on except rumors and company-orchestrated press releases that rarely tell the full story. Case in point: the secret, though apparently quite legal, money-raising scheme of a Web-site operator known as BigHub.com. Until May 17th, BigHub (at http://www.thebighub.com/) was known instead as iSleuth.com, a Web search engine company through which Web users can, in effect, search the Web by tapping into many conventional search engines at once.
The company's stock sold for barely $1 a share as recently as last November. But with the explosion in
Internet stocks, iSleuth.com as well got swept aloft, and by March was trading for $5 per share. But then in early April, and for no obvious reason, the company's stock price began to surge on volume that itself began to grow. One possible explanation for this now presents itself in the form of some rapid-fire developments that have followed the runup. Most of these developments were eagerly brought to the public's attention by way of company-issued press releases but one key development has been kept shrouded in secrecy until now.
First, on May 13, with iSleuth's shares having already doubled from their mid-April level, the company announced that it was changing its name from iSleuth to BigHub.com and was launching a new growth strategy designed to make the site a retailshopping portal.
Shortly after changing its name from iSleuth.com to BigHub.com, the company began circulating a
confidential placement memorandum on Wall Street to raise $20 million for the company.
Then, only days later, the company announced on May 17 that two top officials from Shopping.com ù the California-based Web site that was recently acquired by Compaq Computer Corp. after having become mired in a securities fraud scandal involving its underwriter ù were joining BigHub.com's board of directors. Though the company issued a steady stream of press releases documenting these and other stock-boosting developments, it somehow overlooked telling the public something of obvious interest to every investor. The vital information? That shortly after changing its name from iSleuth.com to BigHub.com, the company began circulating a confidential placement memorandum on Wall Street to raise $20 million for the company. Investors who had paid as much as $15 per share for BigHub.com's common stock in the run-up would doubtless have been shocked to learn that the $20 million being raised through the offering was, in effect, being raised directly at their expense. The gimmick? A highly dilutive rights offering in which sophisticated investors were being offered a chance to buy convertible preferred shares that could be quietly held for 30 days, then exchanged for BigHub common stock at $4 per share. Thereafter, as set forth in the offering, the $4 shares would be able to be resold in the open market for perhaps as much as $15, giving investors a whopping 300 percent return on their money.
For their part, everyday investors were set up to stand by in blithe ignorance that the deal was even taking place at all. As a result, they would not have known that the company's total shares outstanding were in the process of secretly being doubled, promising a 50 percent or more dilution in their existing equity interests ù and, possibly, a collapse in the value of their holdings as well.
SEARCHING FOR DATA
The company's investor relations spokesman, Sanjay Sabnani, said Tuesday that he knew nothing of the deal and could offer no explanation as to why the existence of the offering was not publicly disclosed. He directed further inquiries to one of BigHub's new board members, Mr. Pat J. DeMicco, an ex-marketing vice president at Shopping.com. At press time, DeMicco had not returned calls.
In reality, the mystery enveloping BigHub.com derives from the fact that BigHub is a so-called non-filing company. That is the status of companies that begin life as penny stock offerings in which shares are sold to the public in amounts that raise less than $1 million per year. Such offerings are generally exempt from securities law financial reporting requirements. As a result, BigHub.com was under no obligation to
disclose to its stockholders that it was, in effect, setting them up as bait for a sale of $20 million worth of convertible preferreds.
And because the convertible preferred offering was ostensibly being marketed only in units of $1 million-plus and thus only to presumably sophisticated investors who knew what they were doing ù that offering as well did not have to be registered with the SEC.
In other words, for this publicly traded, $65 million (market cap) company to raise yet another $20 million from investors, nothing had to be registered with the SEC not for the $20 million in the private placement, nor indeed for the $65 million worth of underlying common shares that gave the whole deal its appeal.
Nor is it even clear how the company will now use the resulting proceeds. The offering says only that the money will be used for marketing, working capital, and general corporate purposes How things work out in practice thereafter will be, well, just another one of those multiplying BigHub unknowns.
Though the offering memorandum says the company intends to file a registration statement with the SEC within 60 days of the completion of the offering, its credibility on that score simply isn't very convincing.
In January, the company issued a press release saying it intended to become a fully reporting company with the SEC following the completion of its annual audit in February. But it is now mid-May, and according to Sabnani, the company has so far not done so. And even if the company does now file an S-1 for the preferred shareholders, there is no assurance that the registration will be approved. This could mean that even the fat cats as well could wind up BigHub stuckholders instead of stockholders, while the company itself winds up never having to account adequately for the money at all. Would you like to get in on the deal anyway? Sorry, but you're too late. Said Vince Callichia, who has been fielding calls on the deal at the Wall Street firm of Robb, Peck and McCooey, The deal is pretty much closed. I can't give you any information on it. When it comes to Over The Counter bulletin board stocks, that is always the end of the road where all inquiries eventually wind up: Sorry, no information available. In other words, invest at your peril.
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Posted by Invaliderror on :
Maybe its for the other BHUB someone was talking about though. I dont know.
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
Thanks Tman and 42.....I came up with that same headache.. However If and I say IF the O/S is 30 mill...look out, Well worth holding a lotto ticket on...IMO...P.S. Good to see a nice close.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Well my nap didnt bring a divine intervention on how this is all tied together. lol. Lets look at the information we do know... 1. There are 2 corps listed in florida under different file numbers and different ceo's. One ceo is john sparrow. he is the ceo listed at pinksheets. Pinksheets show that the previous company name is isleuth.com. No problem right? Well this particular filer that has john as the ceo filed a form to have a R/S of 1/1000 and change the name to "advanced growing systems inc." This company is now trading as agws.pk. The problem with that issue is agws.pk doesnt show to be bighub.com previously at Pinksheets. (Now dont get me wrong, pinksheets is not perfect but that is all i got, lol.) And agws is now domiciled in Nevada. Did that actually come to fruition, maybe not and now bhub is just sitting there getting traded for no reason other than momo. 2. AHHHH the second bighub, (bighub2). A guy named Taule was the Ceo. There is a file showing that he signed an affidavit changing the name from a health care company to isleuth in 98. Then a different ceo changed the name in 99 to THE BIGHUB. In the edgar file posted on another page here shows that they intended to file in Delaware and they did, but I dont think they ever issued shares from that domicle. So imo the delaware info is irrelevent. 3. There is no filings from late 01 to 05 when the bighub1 filed via a registered agent to become a corp in fla. was that to reactivate the corp? maybe. 4. bighub1 also filed to change the name of the company BUT bhub is still trading AND agws.pk is trading but not as the previous bighub. hmmmm 5. another company is/was looking to do a RM with bighub but hasnt happened. If bhub had done the rs and changed to agws then this new company probably wouldnt be interested.
Ok that is all I know. I tried not to impose any opinion but that of course is hard to do. The one thing we dont know and I would love to know is the OS. Oh well. I am glad to see it at .001. TMAN...
Posted by Jason0352 on :
All credit goes to "The_Pink_Lawyer" over at IHUB for this post. Just some food for thought.
Were Market Makers (MMs) caught with their pants down on March 8, 2007 with 1.3 billion shares of unexpected volume? Did the the MMs not know that BHUB was going to reverse merge with Cyberhand Robotics and, thus, taken by surprise, naked shorted to the tune of 1.3 billion shares to handle the volume on that fateful day? Have the BHUB traders caught the MMs red handed and now going to make them pay and pay dearly? If so, a potential Mother of All Short Squeezes (MOASS) about to hit BHUB that will make the PAIV and AWYB runs look like small fry.
Immediately preceding the 1.3 billion volume share run on March 8, wherein BHUB ran from .0001 to .0007, there was zero or practically zero volume. This means that the MMs did not frontload in anticipation of a run and were not expecting BHUB to run and, thus, could not dump their frontloaded shares for a profit when the run came. The very fact that the MMs did not frontload means that they were caught by surprise on March 8. The MMs were probably wondering "what all the fuss" was about and simply naked shorted BHUB to handle the volume of transaction on that day, thinking that, as with 99.9% of all penny stock runs, that BHUB would crash to .0001 again and need not ever have to cover because the volume would go back to zero.
What the MMs were not counting on was the I-Hub Team discovering that BHUB was the reverse merger partner for Cyberhand Robotics and that the CEO of Cyberhand Robotics has stated that there "should" be only 20 million shares in the BHUB shell float and that he "does not understand" how so many shares could be trading in BHUB since March 8 (when prior to March 8 the volume was "zero."). What we have discovered since is that the MMs most likely naked shorted BHUB to the tune of 1.3 billion shares and we intend to put the pressure on them to cover. The short position in BHUB was subsequently confirmed on the monthly Fail-to-Deliver list.
On Friday, March 23, the I-Hub Team continued the onslaught and brought the fight directly to the MMs. The MMs were forced to retreat and BHUB traded from .0006 and closed at HOD at .001. This was only accomplished because we have refuse to back down to the MMs and their nefarious shorting tactics.
As long as we continue to press the battle, we will hold the MMs accountable for their naked shorting of BHUB.
BHUB volume history from February 15, 2007:
2/15 - 0 volume
2/16 - 0 volume
2/20 - 0 volume
2/21 - 0 volume
2/22 - 0 volume
2/23 - 0 volume
2/26 - 2,121,000 volume
2/27 - 5,000 volume
2/28 - 0 volume
03/01 - 1,000,000 volume
03/02 - 0 volume
03/05 - 0 volume
03/06 - 0 volume
03/08 - 1,338,465,590 volume
03/09 - 511,646,620 volume
03/12 - 460,394,465 volume
03/13 - 265,925,305 volume
03/14 - 221,523,232 volume
03/15 - 56,159,866 volume
03/16 - 44,636,832 volume
03/19 - 247,406,643 volume
03/20 - 238,358,891 volume
03/21 - 204,068,488 volume
03/22 - 212,349,125 volume
03/23 - 333,675,509 volume - we bring the battle to the MMs and the MMs retreated
We must continue the battle this upcoming week. If we stand together and strong, we will turn BHUB into the play of 2007.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Posted by beechwood on :
I loaded up on this a coupla years ago at .0001 as a clean shell. Convinced it was going nowhere I dumped it for same price last summer. Now I'm back in for a few million shares at .0004 Closed at .001 Friday. So far so good. I'm holding onto this one. Could be the next LFZA. "To Infinity!....and Beyoooooooooond!
Posted by T e x on :
be nice to have enough dough to just collect shells, eh?
Posted by Sally77 on :
I wish I could collect shells on my own stretch of sand on some tropical island somewhere paid for with the money I made on pennys. Oh lord, there I go dreaming again.
Posted by phone_man on :
BHUB may be the next big runner. Got's to break .001 or it's gonna retrace.
Posted by beechwood on :
If it does retrace I might pick up some more. Haven't decided yet. All depends on how much she pulls back. I've always been a little leary of these hot stocks in the news that you simply "must buy". And this one is hot and really in the news. No PR since late '05. Many are holding onto millions of shares of this thing - myself included. With all the buzz this is getting any PR re: a R/M would send this into the stratosphere and make a lot of us very rich almost overnight. Even the infamous "letter of intent" would do nicely at this point. ANY news would be better than no news. Let's hear something - anything.
Posted by Sally77 on :
So I might wait until after the retrace on this. If it gaps up tomorrow morning, then it will definitely retrace at some point. I'll decide with the dust settles. (Thanks phone_man)
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
The pumpers at ihub said that .0008 was the point to break through and we would be TO DA MOOOOONNNNNN!!!! Now you are telling me that we have to get through .001? Will we be TO DA MOOOOONNNN then? Just wondering. TMAN... PS Just kiddin too lol.
Posted by a surfer on :
.0009 x .001 4 X 1
Posted by Jason0352 on :
.0009 X .001 6X1 1 * .0011 1 * .0014 3 * .0015 1 * .01 1 * .011
Posted by farmerboy on :
This should gap up and run to .0015 today.
Posted by a surfer on :
uh ohhhhhhhhhh .0014 ask
Posted by THE DUKE on :
WOW!!! BHUB is really trading like a low floater. Maybe the O/S really is true 20-30 mil? Posted by a surfer on :
.0015
Posted by THE DUKE on :
Man I know this is far fetch, but for once I wish all traders could stick together for once when there is a short squeeze in play to see this price go even higher before profit taking!!. L2s show after .0015 , .0025s are next Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
.0015 another 50% up. Nice very nice. TMAN...
Posted by beechwood on :
Profit taking accounts for the momentary hiccup in price action. However, there is a definite upward trend in motion and this is going higher. I got in at .0004 and I'm hangin in there.
Posted by beechwood on :
With respect to the above poster re: low float. It was said this has a float +/- 50M shares. If so, where are the 100's of millions shares being traded coming from? Dilution? MM's covering their a$$ in a short squeeze? Uncovered shares? Just wondering.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
I am all out... GLTA. TMAN...
Posted by Invaliderror on :
I like this one. Its going up and up. No reason why so somebody must know something or just a bunch of newb traders like myself buying. Either way its going up.
Posted by Invaliderror on :
It looks like alot of people are afraid to just flip this one because its going up still for unknown reasons...besides the rumors and speculation about the R/M and 30M O/S
Was looking at some posts on IHUB.
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
I canceled my sell...moved it to .003.... then hold free shares... this is too strong.....my guess is close around .003
Posted by Invaliderror on :
.003 EOD would be nice. This one might actually make it. I was thinking .0025 though.
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
WOO HOO printing .002
Posted by Invaliderror on :
Lots of buys at .002 coming in too!
Posted by Jason0352 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason0352: I'm in at .0003. Too much upside for this one.
.002 LoL I hope some of you took my advice.
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
lets start moving in .0005, increments. ....002, .0025. .003, .0035............
Posted by kermit42 on :
I haven't a clue where I first heard of BHUB, but my .0005's are looking good to me right now. Just not enough of them. I'm looking for some flipping opporutnities to get more but this damn thing won't retrace.
The shakes are pitiful. The lamest I've ever seen!
Posted by Invaliderror on :
LOL. It shouldve gone to .0021 by now.
Have any pennies ever just started moving in .0005 incremements at this level?
Posted by a surfer on :
its moving again.... .0022X.0023
Posted by a surfer on :
911 trade..
I say they drop it back to .0018
Posted by Invaliderror on :
Hooray!
Posted by Invaliderror on :
LOL .0023 911 shares. and .0022 with 911 shares. MM cry for help.
Posted by a surfer on :
nope... they can't keep it down she is going to a new high here soon
Posted by Invaliderror on :
? is that what the 911 means?
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Invaliderror: ? is that what the 911 means?
I have heard several explanations.
One being that the MM's need shares
another is that they are moving out of order
Regardless the last few times I have seen 911 its dropped there after.
Posted by Invaliderror on :
Thats what its looking like is theyre trying to drop the price.
Posted by Invaliderror on :
The people at IHUB seem to be going all out on this one. Putting up a good fight against the MMs it seems.
.0022 is seeing alot of buys now.
Posted by Invaliderror on :
I still say .0025 for EOD.
Not much talk here. Nobody bought this one?
Posted by THE DUKE on :
No 911 is a MM code for what is . That is HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!! HA-HA. Serves them right. Need more Stocks to do the same Posted by Sitting_Bull on :
MMs cannot cover their shorts keep the pressure on this will hit A penny
Posted by Invaliderror on :
Im holding, not alot of choice(unsettled funds) but I was also betting on it going up till they become settled.
I think its going to jump up here to .0025 within the next 1/2 hour. Seeing more buys coming in.
Posted by Sitting_Bull on :
gap up tomorrow to .003
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Good goin guys. I cut bait too early but still made a tidy sum. Good luck and protect your capital. TMAN...
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
I hear dat bull....next month you will hear about MMs suicide rate exploding....found in one of nights MMs desk was a note..."BHUB was the death of me.." Posted by Invaliderror on :
Crud. Theyre bringing it down. EOD looking to be below .002
Be a good run up tomorow morning maybe?
Retracing, should be an oportune time to buy in or buy more.
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
Bring it down, I want more.... Posted by Invaliderror on :
BHUB is a scary one. Without any news or anything, do you think peopple might start selling off tomorow or buying up?
All we have are technicals and rumors for a shell company called bighub.com that doesnt even have a website.
Maybe the CEO of cyberhand is holding a bunch of BHUB and wanted to profit from it.
Posted by Gutsy22 on :
This is shorted the hell out of it.Tommorrow should be another good day.All weak hands sold at the end.
Posted by Invaliderror on :
Go for the gold! Still learning stuff about the stockmarket n pennies. Ive made it from going red on everything I buy to making it even...going for Green now!
The key to success is patience I think. Patience and a lot of money to begin with.
Posted by kermit42 on :
tman: if you think you got out too early, then think of it as a flip--good chance you can get back in in the morning for a better price. (By the time of your posting, I'm guessing you bailed in the high teens.)
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
I may kermit. it was around 16 i think. If it drops and I say that as if I dont think it will, i may buy back in. It all depends on what the heck I am doing tomorrow at work. lol. TMAN...
Posted by Sally77 on :
I'm shooting myself in the foot for not jumping in on this one on Friday when I had the chance. What a goober!!!
Whether or not the R/S happens, there is still money to be made here just on the hype. Protect your investment! Don't get greedy!
Posted by THE DUKE on :
What do we expect today. Let's hit .005! Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by THE DUKE: What do we expect today. Let's hit .005!
did you mean .0005
Posted by THE DUKE on :
Surfer Do you work for any Market Maker's. Ha-Ha. just kidding Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by THE DUKE: Surfer Do you work for any Market Maker's. Ha-Ha. just kidding
I wish I was one...
Posted by Invaliderror on :
Not the nice bounce back I was hoping for for early morning. I think it might find support around .001 before going back up as long as it does go back up. I need a margin account badly.
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
I got some more...hopefully gap filled and up we go..
Posted by Invaliderror on :
With scottrade, watching T&S what is the blue colored Sales? When I see that, the bid goes down but the Ask stays up.
Posted by THE DUKE on :
up down up down up down. I want UPPPPPPPPPPP! Posted by Invaliderror on :
Woohoo!! Looks like we are going now. Up up and away we go! Anyone for .0025 or better today?
Posted by beechwood on :
Seems to have leveled off after a classic run and some hefty profit taking. Watch out for dilution. I took some off the table like everyone else. Letting the rest stand. Dump at the first sign of dilution.
Posted by THE DUKE on :
Is the O/S still around 30mil or has that change as well as the pos Posted by Invaliderror on :
Ah poop. It is looking like it might be done until more info about R/M comes out I think. Still hoping for a little more movement after lunch though.
Posted by Invaliderror on :
People at ihub are strategizing. They are planning on selling it down to .001 then buying back up from there to close the gap.
Posted by T e x on :
lol, pinklawyer's a funny guy...
Posted by Invaliderror on :
looks like its getting some upward movement. Not sure how much it will get but I hope its alot.
Posted by THE DUKE on :
Oh well, I think there is way more 0/S than 20-30mil shares. Right now I'm looking at 582mil Posted by madmoney on :
T/A`s phone number -- (647) 722-9581
Posted by Invaliderror on :
T/A's Phone number?
It looks like this one may be done till something is confirmed or some kind of good news comes out. It does look like alot more than 20-30mil shares.
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: T/A`s phone number -- (647) 722-9581
if somebody feels like making a call to the transfer agent to find out what the A/S and O/S may be, if they will tell you!
Posted by Invaliderror on :
Is BHUB Transfer agent Select American Transfer co?
Posted by Invaliderror on :
They wont tell me. They said to contact the company directly. They dont sound like the nicest people either.
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Invaliderror: They wont tell me. They said to contact the company directly. They dont sound like the nicest people either.
T/A is gagged? thats never good!! I would wager the A/S AND O/S are both well into the billions.
Posted by Invaliderror on :
It makes more sense to me that this thing must be in the billions. Someone probably just doing a P&D with rumors of a 20-30mil float.
Finished below .001 at EOD. Anyone think this is all downhill from here?
Posted by Sally77 on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by Invaliderror: They wont tell me. They said to contact the company directly. They dont sound like the nicest people either.
T/A is gagged? thats never good!! I would wager the A/S AND O/S are both well into the billions.
The T/A being gagged is beyond the point with this one. Anyone doing their DD knows it's just a shell. Not like anyone is holding it long right??? It is a temp high. It's seen it; it might go up a little more, but until R/M news I doubt it will do much else.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
I wonder how many pumpers at the hub dropped this like a hot potato today? lol. TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
The jig is up on this one. This morning was the time to bail. Classic 5-day P&D momo run. Not complaining. I got in at .0004 and dumped it all early on at .0016 (400%!). Probably heading back to it's original .0002 x .0003 or thereabouts. If so I may jump back in for the volatility play. It's a wait & see for now.
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
WOW big time dump today...Bought more at 0012 and had to leave Hope for a bounce off .0008 Posted by beechwood on :
All that's left to do is flush the toilet. Down the drain she goes now at .0007 and falling. I'm glad I got out at .0016
Posted by J8KSchneider101 on :
.0007 and falling? It's just all the flippers and weak hands bro!! There's still possible news of R/M, that creates speculation and the closer we get this will bounce!
Posted by kermit42 on :
The T/A probably has not been gagged. More likely the T/A has not been paid.
This run was definately a P&D and the most cynical were the most successful. But this will likely run again soon on the R/M.
As for dilution--I don't fully buy the 20-25 million share rumor, but there has been no dilution during this run. The shell is in R/M talks. There will not be a change in the share structure (whatever it is) during those talks.
BHUB appears to have stabilized around .0007. May sit there for a week or more, but it should move up again soon.
Posted by Invaliderror on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: you guys seen this?
Does that mean the BHUB R/M may have been a bunch of BS by a company that is BS to begin with?
Somehow I think this is going to go all the way back to .0001
Posted by Invaliderror on :
Is the Cyberhand robotics in that pdf a different cyberhand robotics?
Posted by THE DUKE on :
Man you guys better get out while you can. I had a chance yesterday to lock in 2 grand profit lost out with only 4 hundred profit. (imo) could be good , but right now something really stinks!!!
Posted by Invaliderror on :
You smell it too? I got out already. I didnt see it going up anymore once it reached .0009 and I dont thing that its going to run again anytime soon without a PR at least.
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
anyone see this...I would post it but Im working
• Yucatan Holding Company to Clarify position on The Big Hub.com, Inc. PR Newswire (Wed 2:44pm)
Posted by cottonjim on :
Here you go Doc.
Yucatan Holding Company to Clarify position on The Big Hub.com, Inc.
KNOXVILLE, Tenn., March 28, 2007 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Yucatan Holding Company, as holder of the majority of shares to be received pursuant to a certain Voting Agreement and Irrevocable Trust dated April 1999, wishes to clarify its position with regards to mergers and or acquisitions that have been in discussion. The Company has not been in contact with a representative of Cyberhand Technologies International, Inc. with regards to their interest. At this time no action is contemplated as the Company does not know nor has it had any discussions with regards to Cyberhand's interest. The Big Hub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB) is currently reviewing potential business ventures unrelated to current rumors that have surfaced and come to the attention of the Company.
The Company further states that it is concerned as to the recent activity in the shares of The Big Hub.com, Inc. as the activity seems to be excessive considering the current share structure. The Company intends to investigate this matter vigorously.
SOURCE Yucatan Holding Company
CONTACT: Darrell Peterson of Yucatan Holding Company, +1-561-801-3710
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
thanks...i wounder what that last paragraph means??
Posted by cottonjim on :
I am not in, just an interested observer at this point but one thing I can say now is that you have a company name and phone # to tie to the stock symbol. THe name BHUB was a worm hole when it was being researched. Now maybe someone can call and get some answers.
Posted by beechwood on :
This was your classic pump & dump. You could see it coming a mile away. If you got in early you made some $$$$! If not you get stuck holding the proverbial bag. There is/was/and never will be any R/M here. It was all hype, rumour, and inuendo. But that's exactly what makes these micro-caps shoot for the moon. I got in at .0004 and sold at .0016 (400%!). I never thought it would break .002 but it did. Nonetheless I'm not complaining. I banked some serious bread on this play. Let's go for another.
Posted by T e x on :
lol, good post, beech--UNLESS i find out you were pumping Posted by ohio_trader on :
congrats to all who jumped in at the open, .0005 now .0011, very nice
Posted by beechwood on :
No pumping. Just kickin' up my heels after a 400% run. Still lookin' for the next one.
Posted by lukin4winners on :
Interesting synopsis of what's going on here with BHUB: from another board IHUB
BHUB- summary of what's been figured out from bhub board ibox. i also spoke w darrel peterson of yucatan and confirmed this narrative:
"In a nutshell, here’s the situation. BHUB was a dormant(since 2000) Florida shell corporation. http://tinyurl.com/2aac3v Recently a bad actor registered a Florida corporation (2005) of the same name http://tinyurl.com/2p43bn They then just recently used these corporate documents to have millions, maybe billions of illegal shares printed and sold into the market. The brokers(as of yet unknown) who sold the paper into the market are now on the hook to cover the fraudulent shares they most probably unwittingly sold into the market.
The shell owners, Yucatan Holdings Company http://tinyurl.com/27d9cp put out the following press release on 3/28/2007 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070328/clw200.html?.v=7 to begin to explain the situation. Yucatan’s attorneys have requested the DTC sheets and the nobo lists to get a handle on the number of fraudulent shares dumped into the marketplace. They have also said that there have been no share authorization increases since the last 10-Q SEC filing, 50,000,000 shares authorized, and 21,685,521 shares outstanding. http://tinyurl.com/2r9mtb Peterson has said Yucatan and their attorneys plan on addressing the fraudulent share problem via legal means, without involving the SEC, if at all possible, reducing the chances of any suspension, as they do plan on using the shell for a reverse merger in the future.
Posted by Invaliderror on :
If its only 50m auth and 21m o/s, and with the volume, does that make it very likely that alot of people may have some of those illegal shares then?
Posted by kermit42 on :
I have some of those illegal shares, and if it keeps moving up and down like this, I'm going to get a lot more. Free of course.
This is the weirdest play I've seen in my short trading days. It was a classic pump and dump, but it looks like the pump may have been true and all the dumpers are coming back.
Still a lotto play, though. Be ready for the dump just in case. Up 50% right now.
Posted by kermit42 on :
Update: Pinksheets says it has been in touch with BHUB and will update the company information. Could happen at any time and probably within a week.
If the O/S really is 50 million or less, this will take off again in a big way. If it is 2 billion or more, look out below!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by lukin4winners: Interesting synopsis of what's going on here with BHUB: from another board IHUB
BHUB- summary of what's been figured out from bhub board ibox. i also spoke w darrel peterson of yucatan and confirmed this narrative:
"In a nutshell, here’s the situation. BHUB was a dormant(since 2000) Florida shell corporation. http://tinyurl.com/2aac3v Recently a bad actor registered a Florida corporation (2005) of the same name http://tinyurl.com/2p43bn They then just recently used these corporate documents to have millions, maybe billions of illegal shares printed and sold into the market. The brokers(as of yet unknown) who sold the paper into the market are now on the hook to cover the fraudulent shares they most probably unwittingly sold into the market.
The shell owners, Yucatan Holdings Company http://tinyurl.com/27d9cp put out the following press release on 3/28/2007 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070328/clw200.html?.v=7 to begin to explain the situation. Yucatan’s attorneys have requested the DTC sheets and the nobo lists to get a handle on the number of fraudulent shares dumped into the marketplace. They have also said that there have been no share authorization increases since the last 10-Q SEC filing, 50,000,000 shares authorized, and 21,685,521 shares outstanding. http://tinyurl.com/2r9mtb Peterson has said Yucatan and their attorneys plan on addressing the fraudulent share problem via legal means, without involving the SEC, if at all possible, reducing the chances of any suspension, as they do plan on using the shell for a reverse merger in the future.
fellas? when re-posting info such as this, puh-leeze provide a link... some good i-hub DD-ers are on this, and it's turned into a very interesting situation...
Posted by beechwood on :
Maybe that explains why the shares I sold haven't settled yet. It's been three days and the shares I sold at a substantial profit have not shown up in my Scott_ade account.
Posted by T e x on :
could very well be, beech...scottie is pretty rigid in these kinds of things...
Posted by T e x on :
"Posted by: clarity789 In reply to: None Date:4/1/2007 12:36:13 PM Post #of 13401
I think this lays out the legitimate players here....
TELA - Techlabs Inc - KNOXVILLE TN Yucatan Holding Company Jayme Dorrough CEO Darrel Peterson STORM DEPOT INTERNATIONAL CORP - PORT ST. LUCIE FL Yucatan Holding Company Jayme Dorrough CEO Darrel Peterson Corporacion SportAlum C.A. - Caracas Venezuela acquisition not complete yet CTDH - CTD HOLDINGS INC - High Springs Florida (central Fl) C.E. Rick Strattan CEO Yucatan Holding Company Jayme Dorrough CEO Darrel Peterson Yucatan Sun Spa's - in Florida (assumed) EEGI - ELINE ENTERTAINMENT GROUP INC - Knoxville, Tennessee Barry A. Rothman CEO Yucatan Holding Company Jayme Dorrough CEO Darrel Peterson Industrial Fabrication & Repair, Inc - wholy owned SIREN MEDIA, INC - Port St Lucie Florida SIREN LABS, INC - Port St Lucie Florida BHUB - The BigHub - Florida - dormant Yucatan Holding Company Jayme Dorrough CEO Darrel Peterson
...and remember, SEC suspension could be in the works, too
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Tex, I havent followed much since the SEC letter was posted, but I do have a question about the above list from Ihub. What do all of these have to do with bhub other than the Yucatan Holding Co.? I am surprised Mark Smith's name isnt apart of this. lol. TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
SEC? you mean Securities folks in Utah?
"Mark Smith" may turn up, dunno...I've been just barely involved; they've had a pretty good team--DD session on this, just rounding up the "usual suspects" of who all may be involved...the buzz is possible short cuz of hares sold under fake BHUB registration...more or less like BCIT.
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
this means a big squueeezzeee is about to happen!!? hopefully!
this is a lotto ticket im willing to buy! lets see some PRs issueed next week
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
LOTS goin on with this stock, heres what IHUB came up with this weekend
ok, I just updated the ibox (below the charts) with the following information, starting the summarization of the weekend's DD:
What occured to BHUB, In detail(a continuing work in progress):
The following are the Florida Secretary of State documents for the corporation created on July 8, 2005 by John Sparrow and Jason Wong using the name “The Bighub.com, Inc.” (FEI Number -None) http://tinyurl.com/2p43bn
Registered Agent: Wong, Jason 10151 University Blvd Suite 120 Orlando FL 32817 416-417-4779
Officer/Director Detail Sparrow, John 10151 University Blvd Suite 120 Orlando FL 32817 212-561-0762
Sparrow/Wong’s scheme was to legally create a new corporate entity, using the exact name as the original and legitimate “The Bighub.com, Inc.” (FEI Number - 650580634) http://tinyurl.com/2aac3v which was inactive since 2000, so they could hijack the publicly traded vehicle, BHUB CUSIP#089865109.
It seems that Sparrow/Wong began an account with Select American Transfer in October 2005, shortly after creating this doppelganger “The Bighub.com, Inc.” corporation in July, 2005 and sending SAT the corporate documents as proof of their control of BHUB. http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=18372341
Select Amercian Transfer Company 118 Finch Ave. West Suite 35 Toronto, Ontario, M2N 7G2 Tel. (647) 722-9581 http://www.selectamericantransfer.com info*selectamericantransfer.com
The BHUB stock was basically dormant until June 2006 when it started trading with some irregularly high volume. It then traded mildly, bouncing around in the triple zeros until March 8, 2007, when it was discovered there was a link to BHUB as a potential reverse merger candidate on the Cyberhand Robotics website, which was noticed by several investors. http://www.cyberhandrobotics.com/stockquote.html
Since that March 8 date BHUB has traded billions of fraudulent shares, printed by Sparrow/Wong/Select American Transfer.
In the meantime, Yucatan Holding Company http://tinyurl.com/27d9cp the remaining legitimate controlling interest holder in “The Bighub.com, Inc.”, and the BHUB security, CUSIP#089865109 became aware of the extreme trading volume and began to investigate the situation.
Yucatan subsequently put out a press release on March 28, 2007 notifying the market of their recognition of the trading irregularity, and to dispel the rumors of the Cyberhand Robotics reverse merger. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070328/clw200.html?.v=7
Registered Agent Dorrough, Jayme 1836 NE River CT Jensen Beach FL 34957
Officer/Director Detail Dorrough, Jayme 1836 NE River CT Jensen Beach FL 34957
As it stands now, Yucatan Holding Company is investigating the situation. According to conversations with Darrell Peterson, Yucatan’s consultant/public contact, Yucatan is currently undertaking the following actions:
1. Put out the 3/28/2007 press release informing the market of their awareness of the situation, that they are vigorously investigating, that they disavow any merger talks with Cyberhand Robotics, and that they are currently reviewing potential business ventures unrelated to current rumors that have surfaced. 2. Requested the DTC sheets/NOBO lists. 3. Contacted Pinksheets.com about correcting their corporate profile information, including the share structure. 4. Are trying to conduct the investigation and subsequent litigation without the involvement of the SEC. 5. Will continue to update the market as developments occur.
Some collected information of the bad actors in this case:
“John Sparrow” (it is not known if this is a real person or a fake name) and his 212-561-0762 phone number which seems to permeate many suspicious companies.
Jason Wong: To be updated
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
better buy quick before the brokers try and "protect you" aka (screw you over)
hope all works out well tomorrow/next week!!!
Posted by T e x on :
I guess clarity got his consolidated summary list together...
btw, you're right...prolly be lottsa "protecting" goin' on 'fore this one is done...
Posted by T e x on :
lol...nope...it was Art--dang nice summary, too...
Posted by T e x on :
this is fun--
DD-freaks, front n' center:
"OK sleuths, sink your teeth into this one..
I got the following email from an acquiantance who is very well versed in shells, and the seamy underbelly of the pink/otcbb market.
"BHUB's easy to fix. A simple court order (cancelling shares) followed with a dividend spin off (I can find a shell to burn for $60,000)...it forces a market cover. Florida law allows the cancellation of bogus shares via a court order. Seen it done a few times. Plus, the offending party would be crazy to contest in court as they could be arrested on the spot."
So the thought being, Yucatan could have their attorneys file a suit for a court order to cancel the billions of fraudulent shares sold by sparrow/wong/Select american. This would leave the brokers that sold the shares into the market completely underwater, and scrambling to make good on the shares they sold.
The Florida statutes relating to securities can be researched here. http://tinyurl.com/2dlpdq I just started looking, but if we can find a statute confirming this, it would be a great head start for yucatan's strategies. Perhaps they're already on the ball here on this, but as far as the market goes, this info would help effect the squeezing of the brokers..
From that link above..
The 2006 Florida Statutes
Title XXXIII REGULATION OF TRADE, COMMERCE, INVESTMENTS, AND SOLICITATIONS Chapter 517 SECURITIES TRANSACTIONS View Entire Chapter
CHAPTER 517
SECURITIES TRANSACTIONS
517.011 Short title.
517.021 Definitions.
517.03 Rulemaking; immunity for acts in conformity with rules.
517.051 Exempt securities.
517.061 Exempt transactions.
517.07 Registration of securities.
517.072 Viatical settlement investments.
517.075 Cuba, prospectus disclosure of doing business with, required.
517.081 Registration procedure.
517.082 Notification registration.
517.101 Consent to service.
517.111 Revocation or denial of registration of securities.
517.12 Registration of dealers, associated persons, investment advisers, and branch offices.
517.1201 Notice filing requirements for federal covered advisers.
517.1203 Allocation and disbursement of assessment fees.
517.1205 Registration of associated persons specific as to securities dealer, investment adviser, or federal covered adviser identified at time of registration approval.
517.121 Books and records requirements; examinations.
517.1215 Requirements, rules of conduct, and prohibited business practices for investment advisors and their associated persons.
517.1217 Rules of conduct and prohibited business practices for dealers and their associated persons.
517.122 Arbitration.
517.131 Securities Guaranty Fund.
517.141 Payment from the fund.
517.151 Investments of the fund.
517.161 Revocation, denial, or suspension of registration of dealer, investment adviser, associated person, or branch office.
I figured what the heck. I was in and out and made a few bucks. BUT with this new twist, I couldnt resist putting in an order. I was kinda surprised it got filled. TMAN...
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
got some at .0008 and .0006
Already for this to explode!!
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
hhhmmmmmmm. TMAN...
The Big Hub.com, Inc. Appoints Additional Board Member and Interim President Monday April 2, 1:54 pm ET
JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Big Hub.com, Inc. (Pinksheet: BHUB) announced today that its director has added Jayme Dorrough to the Board of Directors and has appointed Darrell Peterson as interim President. "The company is currently not in negotiations with any company regarding acquisitions or mergers," stated Darrell Peterson. Currently, the Company is working through counsel to update and disseminate information concerning the current structure of the Company and outline the Company's intent on future projects it may be involved in. The company plans to update the http://www.pinksheets.com web site within the next few days.
The Company can be contacted at: 267-350-9443
The Company's address for correspondence is: 1820 NE Jensen Beach Blvd. Box 634 Jensen Beach, Florida 34957
Due to the anticipated high volume of inquires all calls will be returned within the day.
Contact Person: Darrell Peterson, Interim President
Posted by kermit42 on :
Closed at HOD. Up 33% with a flurry of last minute buying. Likely gapper in the morning.
If the "news leaks" meme is right, we may get pink sheets update tomorrow.
Then again, maybe just another flipping opportunity.
Either way, movement is good.
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
this could be a MOASS according to IHUB
Mother Of All Short Squeezes lol
We'll find out soon!!!!!!!
Posted by tompom on :
in for another round...
Posted by PCola77 on :
Well, it's starting to run now. Just went from .008 to .0012 in a few minutes.
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Well, it's starting to run now. Just went from .008 to .0012 in a few minutes.
that´s why i´m in at .0009 and .001 i wouldn´t mind selling these at .0014 any takers? lol no seriously, i see heavy resistance at .0015 but if the IPUMPERS work it right it might get there Posted by farmerboy on :
LOL! The Idumpers are whacking the bid like crazy. I will take that .0014 as well
Posted by tompom on :
to da moon dammit!! lol
Posted by farmerboy on :
Looks like it could go higher Tom. It's trading very nicely. The whackers have left.
Posted by tompom on :
.0015 might be serious resistance my sell at .0014 got filled the moon is here for me, i´m not greedy
Posted by PCola77 on :
Nice job Tom. Did you sell 100%?
I got in at .0007 and sold half at .0014 to ride freebies from here.
Posted by PCola77 on :
This is kinda nuts. At .0016 now.
Posted by tompom on :
i kept some freebies too you never know with these hype-plays...
Posted by PCola77 on :
So you think it's just a hype play? You're not buying the potential short squeeze theory?
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: So you think it's just a hype play? You're not buying the potential short squeeze theory?
i´m not really following the boards about this one, just saw that it´s on the top boards of IDUMB again that´s why i call it a hype-play to tell the truth,i didn´t even read the previous posts here honestly, i hardly know anything about this stock! but i made out well on the first run and this time it worked out well again... so whatever theory is running the stock is fine with me...
Posted by tompom on :
but to answer your question: no, i´m not buying the short squeeze theory doesn´t trade like it imo
Posted by PCola77 on :
lol, thanks for the honesty!
Posted by farmerboy on :
bought back in * .0013 NICE EOD!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by kt325ci on :
damn near closed at .0015. We stayed in a pretty tight range mostly between .0013-.0014 after the initial runup. Very solid.
Posted by farmerboy on :
Most likely a gap and sell off into the gap
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
all this is just on the hype about the pinksheets being updated on the o/s and float. IF they do come out like the PR said THEN BOOOOOMMMM!! pennyland will be coming then EZ
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
My late brother used to say, "IF, is the biggest word in the dictionary." I hope we get the if in a big way. TMAN...
Posted by farmerboy on :
Major "R" at .0015 "IF" it doesn't breahkit this morning back down she goes. "IF" it does it could move towards the 2 mark and settle above .0016 heading into the long weekend. This feels like BCIT did when it ran to 3 cents before being halted. This most likely will get suspended when it's done.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
.0016. TMAN...
Posted by farmerboy on :
18's are up here folks! This has the juice. Should test the .0022 and "IF" she does break that look out above.
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by farmerboy: 18's are up here folks! This has the juice. Should test the .0022 and "IF" she does break that look out above.
agreed, looks good
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
HOLY CRAP!!!! I AM RICH!!!! Not really, just practicing. lol. .0019. TMAN...
Posted by BULListic on :
In for 2M....hell, if 21M is the correct number, I own almost 10% of the company Posted by madmoney on :
got in at .0011, lets MOVE BABY!!!
Posted by farmerboy on :
Bottom line is the volume here does not indicate over bought and in fact it has a lot more room here volume wise. This .0002 is a big one to break and personally I hope it doesn't and steep over Easter. Looks like it will test that .0022. Then maybe this will break all the "R's" and fly to a penny!!!!! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Posted by farmerboy on :
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by tompom on :
out the gates now!!
Posted by Romeo on :
nice
Posted by PCola77 on :
Ummm, wow. My 2.5 mil shares free shares are looking tasty now!
Go baby go!
Posted by Chris4205 on :
Congrats to all.
I completely dropped the ball and missed this one.
#*#%#*
Posted by madmoney on :
WOW look at it go!!!
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
ON FREE SHARES NOW! Posted by PCola77 on :
I tried to double my position this morning for sime flipping shares at .0011, but my order never got filled. Woulda been nice...
Posted by cottonjim on :
Doesn't look to be done either, lunch time lull then afternoon runner perhaps?
Posted by cottonjim on :
or not
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
LOL JIM.
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Doesn't look to be done either, lunch time lull then afternoon runner perhaps?
nope, looks like she´s getting ready to go again...
Posted by BooDog on :
MAJOR congrats you guys.
"The Company further states that it is concerned as to the recent activity in the shares of The Big Hub.com, Inc. as the activity seems to be excessive considering the current share structure. The Company intends to investigate this matter vigorously."
free is best. WTG!!
Posted by tompom on :
the fact that bloomberg confirmed the share structure is really big imo wonder how this will turn out...
Posted by madmoney on :
out at .0021, two grand in two hours!!! VERY NICE!!! Posted by farmerboy on :
NICE!!!!!!! Sure beats a job!!!! Who says you can't make a living in this market
Posted by cottonjim on :
are they filling anyone at .002 or just collecting as many shares as they can for the afternoon?
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by farmerboy: NICE!!!!!!! Sure beats a job!!!! Who says you can't make a living in this market
haven´t been to work in 2 years Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by tompom:
quote:Originally posted by farmerboy: NICE!!!!!!! Sure beats a job!!!! Who says you can't make a living in this market
haven´t been to work in 2 years
Did you at least call in and tell them you would be gone a while Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:Originally posted by tompom:
quote:Originally posted by farmerboy: NICE!!!!!!! Sure beats a job!!!! Who says you can't make a living in this market
haven´t been to work in 2 years
Did you at least call in and tell them you would be gone a while
lmao it´s my own company so it´s not that bad... i´m an easy going boss lol
Posted by tompom on :
.0024 x .0025 now .003 coming imo
Posted by farmerboy on :
25's are here. We are strong and where is the ceiling here?
Posted by cottonjim on :
DING DING DING, Round Two Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: out at .0021, two grand in two hours!!! VERY NICE!!!
now at .0026! OOPS!!! oh well, I`m happy, a profit is better than a loss! and a thousand dollars an hour aint a bad days pay!!!! Posted by tompom on :
i´m back in at .002 now
Posted by tompom on :
.0021 x .0022 time to run again Posted by kt325ci on :
The Real Deal on The Big Hub.com, Inc.
Thomas J. Catino 4/05/2007 10:29 AM EST E-mail author | E-mail article | RSS | Link
Due to many letters from our readers on The BigHub.com (OTC: BHUB), we had to write a piece on the company, especially given what appears to be a very explosive situation surrounding the possibly hijacked shell and unregistered shares sold that might have to be covered. The story is still developing, but here is what we know so far;
The BigHub.com (OTC: BHUB) was merely a dormant shell that barely traded... that is until rumors circulated that mentioned BigHub.com as a potential reverse merger candidate. Soon after, Yucatan Holdings, the owners of the shell, commented and put out a press release on March 28 which stated the company did not know or have any discussion with regards to the speculated interest of Cyberhand Technologies in BigHub.com. What was more intriguing, however, is that the company said it was concerned about the recent activity in its shares because it seemed too excessive. BigHub.com common stock listed on the PinkSheets has traded on some days during the month of March, well above half a billion shares.
What could be the cause of such active trading? In 2005, individuals by the name of John Sparrow and Jason Wong registered a corporation using the name The BigHub.com Inc., according to Florida Secretary of State documents. It is not certain at this point, but there is speculation that Sparrow and Wong might have opened an account with Select American Transfer and claimed ownership of the company which would have given them the ability to change the share structure and sell shares on to the open market. A representative at Select American Transfer would not comment on the situation, only to say that the company ceased to be the transfer agent for BigHub.com two weeks ago. John Sparrow could not be reached for comment.
In a follow up by BigHub.com on April 2, the company announced it added Jayme Dorrough to the Board of Directors and has appointed Darrell Peterson as interim President. Peterson went on to say, "the company is working through counsel to update and disseminate information concerning the current structure of the company and outline the company's intent on future projects it may be involved in. The company plans to update the http://www.pinksheets.com web site within the next few days." At the time of publication, PinkSheets has failed to update the corporate listing for BigHub.com Inc. which still lists John Sparrow as President.
However, Darrell Peterson told Ant & Sons that the company is working diligently to update that information. The company's legal team is being very pro-active and investigating the irregular trading activity that could have occurred as a result of unregistered or illegal shares hitting the open market. Peterson confirmed that there has been no share authorization increases since the last 10-Q SEC filing that indicated there were 50,000,000 shares authorized and 21,685,521 shares outstanding, despite the common stock of BigHub.com trading in excess of 391 million shares in today's trading session alone. BigHub.com Inc. is currently sending documents to a new transfer agent, New Jersey based Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer, and updates will be issued in the near future. The company still plans on using the shell for a reverse merger in the future. Stick with Ant & Sons for the latest.
The author does not have a vested interest in shares of The BigHub.com Inc. (OTC: BHUB)
.0022 x .0023 i´m starting to like the short-squeeze theory lol PAIV seems so long ago...
Posted by juice on :
$$ here man. been holding for a few days. got in 6/7/8 and 11/12 this am. lol unreal. paiv all over yum:)
Posted by tompom on :
.0024 x .0025 not done yet...
Posted by tompom on :
if .0026 breaks here we´ll get .003 at least...
Posted by tompom on :
to da moon dammit! lol
Posted by stock dude on :
this one looks good and still climbing could go to .003 or 004
Posted by cottonjim on :
unreal, jumped in and out this A.M. and i want back in. Not bad enough to buy at these prices yet. ell of a story shaping up here.
Posted by stock dude on :
man, can't seem to break that .0026 threshold
Posted by Guy Tough on :
There's that 911 share trade again (buy * .0025)
Posted by tompom on :
power hour .003 coming imo
Posted by stock dude on :
come baby.... keep it going
Posted by Guy Tough on :
Yep this news will be huge when released. Antandsons would not release false information and tarnish their reputation
Posted by stock dude on :
so what kind of run you think we are looking at here?
Posted by kt325ci on :
people are going to be buzzing about bhub all weekend with the new 52week high set today AND the antandson's article
Posted by kt325ci on :
The Big Hub.com, Inc. Updates on Corporate Action
PR Newswire "US Press Releases "
JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Big Hub.com, Inc. (Pinksheet: BHUB) announced today that it has updated the following information:
1. The Company has filed and brought current corporate annual reports with the State of Florida. The State of Florida advised the Company that the updates should be reflected on the web site within 3-5 business days. 2. The Board of Directors has approved by resolution the appointment of Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer as stock transfer agent for the Company 3. The Company has updated and expects http://www.pinksheets.com to reflect the information provided within the next 24 hours.
Additionally, the Company has been in discussions with Select Stock Transfer with respect to the current information regarding the share structure of the Company. Select Stock Transfer has advised the Company that they expect to forward conclusive information to corporate counsel and the newly appointed stock transfer agent by the close of business Monday April 9, 2007. The Company expects to update the investing public shortly thereafter.
Safe Harbor: This press release contains forward-looking information within the meaning of section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and is subject to the Safe Harbor created by those sections. This material contains statements about expected future events and/or financial results that are forward-looking in nature and subject to risks and uncertainties. Such forward-looking statements by definition involve risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause the actual results, performance or achievements of The BigHub.com, Inc. to be materially different from the statements made herein.
SOURCE The Big Hub.com, Inc.
Posted by stock dude on :
so this could be a much bigger run than .003
Posted by cottonjim on :
Oh boy, do you suppose that this thing could be halted at any time because of all this nonsense?
Posted by stock dude on :
a few takers, they will be mad they got out LOLOL yee haw
Posted by tompom on :
added .0022
Posted by kt325ci on :
added .0023
Posted by stock dude on :
I wonder how high this can go when the news gets out
Posted by cottonjim on :
I keep waiting for the bottom to fall out and it doesn't happen.
Posted by stock dude on :
I think I am buying more
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: I keep waiting for the bottom to fall out and it doesn't happen.
price is comming down, maybe you spoke too soon. now .0021 X .0022 and L2`s are dropping
Posted by stock dude on :
in at .0022 for more
Posted by madmoney on :
there goes .002!!
Posted by stock dude on :
getting ready for another run
Posted by stock dude on :
this thing is sitting still.... now, what the heck
Posted by cottonjim on :
what are the odds that this pig is going to gap up in the morn.? I suppose that depends on EOD selling or buying pressure, never mind, I answered my own question. I just had to talk it out Posted by stock dude on :
I don't really like to hold over night
Posted by Hitman on :
100% wil not gap in the morning... Market is closed
Posted by stock dude on :
thats right I forgot
Posted by cottonjim on :
chit, it is? I suppose Easter and all. D*mnit
Posted by tompom on :
added more at .0021 eod run coming imo
Posted by stock dude on :
come on climb now
Posted by tompom on :
lol i knew it .0023 x .0024 they will run her into the close...
Posted by madmoney on :
nothing to do now but sell the bounce on monday morning and wait for the dip to buy back in!!
Posted by cottonjim on :
tried to get back in at .0021 when it was on the ask and they werent having it so I guess i'm gonna have to sit mon. morn. bounce out.
Posted by tompom on :
doubled the amount of freebies i´m holding today... and i´m willing to do so again on monday if we´ll really see a short squeeze here i´m ready... lol have a nice weekend all
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
glad to have gotten in this lotto!! HOPEFULLY THIS RUN HAS JUST BEGUN!!!! has lots more potential
Posted by kermit42 on :
BIG BUCKS, IMO you will get your wish. This should have lots of life left in it.
If the gap is big enough Monday, I may sell and try to get more shares, but my last flip didn't work out and I wound up taking profits earlier than I wanted to. Oh well, I have fewer shares than I'd like, but they're free. That's a nice position to be in.
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
Just posted on pinksheets A/S is 50miliion!!!!!!!!
HOUSTON WE HAVE LIFT OFF!!! TO DA MOON!!!!!!!
this is gonna be a long weekend i feel it already
Authorized Shares: 50,000,000 as of 2007-04-05 Posted by surgeon of steel on :
NICE... still riding my freebies...hate missing another double...real work sucks daytrader status soon.. Posted by beechwood on :
If the A/S is only 50,000,000 how do you explain 683,000,000 in volume today alone?...
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Beech, go to page 6 of this thread and read the article from Antsandsons. The shell was apparently hijacked and the people who did it sold unregistered shares into the market.
Tex, I read on ihub that they were not going to post the OS until bhub had some additional information from the TA's. Sorry I dont have a link. I read it some time yesterday.
HOLY CRAP!!! I am gonna be rich!!! heheh. TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
makes sense to me, T-man...
btw, just a reminder, all: stay alert for danger signals--if this causes too much "trouble," the unregistered shares make it an easy target for suspension... ya, I know the company is hoping to work it without SEC intervention, but new eyes may be coming during the long weekend cuz of the buzz...everyone needs to know that's part of the overhead on this play.
Posted by kermit42 on :
Good warning Tex. At this point, I think that is the only major danger left. There is now a certainty that there is a short position between 20X and 100X the real float. The company definately wants to clean this up so they can sell the shell.
That leaves the SEC as the major danger--trading could (and almost certainly will) just stop one morning. There will be huge profits for those who play this smart, but those who get too greedy may get screwed.
Posted by BooDog on :
USF11 is added to my buddy list that's for sure.
WTG!!!!!!!
Posted by juice on :
how many shares do you all have? I own 9 mill myself, (i had 15 mill sold 6 mill yesterday)
So if the A/S is 50, the float is probably right at 21-25mill something, which means I almost owned the float. And I've heard people own 70 mill and 50 mill themselves. This is insane!
I sure as hell don't want this suspended. This is a lotto ticket the way i see it! woweeeeeee
Posted by kt325ci on :
I've got 27mil at the moment.
Posted by PCola77 on :
I guess I'm a small fish. I have 2.5 million.
I have mine for sale with Choicetrade for $1 per share.
Haha, wouldn't that be something...
Posted by juice on :
damn monday is going to be out of control. everywhere i look im hearing bhub 27mil kt sweet!!
Posted by PCola77 on :
I'm having a hard time trying to even have a guess for where it will open on Monday. Seems like a slight gap could occur Posted by Invaliderror on :
What does it mean when the poeple on the thread hold more shares than the A/S???
Posted by PCola77 on :
Is that a real or rhetorical question?
Posted by beechwood on :
I'm just wondering what the SEC will do about all the illegal/unregistered shares flooding the market. If Ant's article is true they could suspend trading on this at any time.
Posted by PCola77 on :
beech, I agree. That's the one wildcard in all of this. Like I'ev told a couple of friends. It's the ultimate lottery ticket. You could be rich, you could lose it all.
Trade wisely.
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: I'm having a hard time trying to even have a guess for where it will open on Monday. Seems like a slight gap could occur
lol yep! just a slight one hehe for sure it´s gonna be a fun day monday with this story at hand and IPUMP at warp 9 this will one of the most interesting rides in a while time to make some dough fellas!!
Posted by PCola77 on :
IHub is dangerous right now. People are talking about beach houses, new cars, etc. Sounds like CSHD just before the crash...
I may sell Monday morning just to get away from all the crazies Posted by Jenna on :
I guess I'm playing real safe....only 45,000 shares here....
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: IHub is dangerous right now. People are talking about beach houses, new cars, etc. Sounds like CSHD just before the crash...
I may sell Monday morning just to get away from all the crazies
isn´t it like that all the time there? i don´t like that place to begin with... but you´re right, it does sound pretty freaky there i wouldn´t compare this stock to CSHD though there are no outlandish claims made here by the company i´m not that worried about the SEC halting the stock, but i could be wrong... what i´m pretty sure of is that we´ll see online buying restrictions very soon here... a good time to have a Penson broker if the information about the share structure is correct we´ll have some crazy action ahead of us
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: USF11 is added to my buddy list that's for sure.
WTG!!!!!!!
where is he? haven't seen him around in a while...
Posted by cassity on :
What if the company comes out afterhours and says that the info on pinksheets.com is a typo? In the pr yesterday they stated they would be updating shareholders on Monday. TIA
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Dont feel bad Jenna... I only have 200g myself, I flipped it once and almost didnt get back in but when Yucatan showed up I threw a few bucks at it. All I need is 5 bucks a share and I will be good to go. LOL!!! (Yes I am dreaming) This could be a more interesting ride then PAIV. If you look at the volume, there was a little spike back in December for about 250mm shares. Then in early march there was a HUGE spike to almost 1.5 billion shares. So a conservative estimate would be around 2 billion shares out that need to be accounted for. I hope that the TA has a good bonding and insurance firm that will cover them because they are in a heap of trouble. If the perps ever get caught, well they will be Bubba's buddy. Just my two cents. TMAN...
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Cassity, reread the PR... 3. The Company has updated and expects http://www.pinksheets.com to reflect the information provided within the next 24 hours. TMAN...
Posted by PCola77 on :
The funniest thing about this is that the people that bought in a few weeks ago bought in on a R/M rumor that was total BS, and with some solid DD by both boards, the share structure issue was uncovered.
Tex, did you ever buy any? If not, I gotta buy you a beer or something since you gave me the heads up on it. Or if this goes right, a brewery Posted by T e x on :
Agreed, that is funny, and yes I *will* PM you my Swiss account number Posted by BooDog on :
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Posted by PCola77 on :
Dog, no offense, but I don't think you've read enough about this to make that kind of call. the fact that I personally "own" 5% of the whole company, and many others own many times more than I do, some individuals claim to own more than the float. Most i don't believe, but even if they're exaggerating, it's hard to believe that between just a few people the total authorized share count is not really owned, and then some.
I mean, I don't consider myself a big player, and all it would take is 19 more people like me to own more than the authorized shares.
Like I said, you can't believe what you read on boards, but while it's normally hard to believe people when they make a claim like "I own the float", in this case, it's almost the reverse, that to me it would be hard to believe your claim, that all the phantom shares have been bought back.
Hope this didn't come off as too preachy.
Good luck to you.
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Agreed, that is funny, and yes I *will* PM you my Swiss account number
lol since Noriega is gone the Swiss are the only ones you can do business with...
Posted by T e x on :
lol, what did Boo post?
allz I see is a period.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by tompom:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Agreed, that is funny, and yes I *will* PM you my Swiss account number
lol since Noriega is gone the Swiss are the only ones you can do business with...
HEY! was *never* that heavy with Noriega...don't start rumors, man.
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: lol, what did Boo post?
allz I see is a period.
My bad. I deleted it. I don't have enough experience to say what I suspect.
My post said that I felt this was not much more than a shakerzzzz play - a nice pump and dump. Also that this play resembles as Pcola put it - "phantom" shares. I think there is much more to this story and who knows if we'll see the whole story. I also said I hope I'm wrong and everyone makes out like bandits! - oh wait! you already did! Wish I would have seen the thread sooner.
Posted by tompom on :
hehe happy easter guys! see ya monday...
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
WHOS EXCITED FOR MONDAY!?!?! I AM!!!!!
Posted by beechwood on :
This reminds me of the feeding frenzy that went on before SLJB took a dump. This could be the year's winning ticket or the biggest carrot stick the MM's have ever hung in front of our noses. My guess is an early gap up for Monday morning then she levels off. It'll be a match between buyers and MM's.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: lol, what did Boo post?
allz I see is a period.
My bad. I deleted it. I don't have enough experience to say what I suspect.
My post said that I felt this was not much more than a shakerzzzz play - a nice pump and dump. Also that this play resembles as Pcola put it - "phantom" shares. I think there is much more to this story and who knows if we'll see the whole story. I also said I hope I'm wrong and everyone makes out like bandits! - oh wait! you already did! Wish I would have seen the thread sooner.
oh, sure you can, Boo... it'll be read by only some thousand-teen peeps...
lol, shakerzzz is a paid pumper--he says he is...
of course, "phantom shares"...aka "counterfeit", or as more techincally known, "unregistered shares." That *is* the play...
so... what do you think is the "much more" to this story?
Posted by BooDog on :
Someone else asked me my opinion and this is what I said, "I saw this too late to take a position and staying well clear of it for my own reasons. Very shaky ground here. I've been wrong before. it would have been awesome to get in this before the run - coulda woulda. Free shares riding would be the best way to play this now imo. The people in charge of this shell could be the very people that started the rumor about the RM."
Someone found this shell and got it going, and just like a shakerzzzz play this could take a fast plunge right back where it came from. imo the people that know how to play these are already out or riding free shares - come Monday the only support left will be those newBs that want to stick their necks out. That may give it a boost and then the free riders will be competing to get out. The "much more" to the story would be the "who" and how the company responded and how the MM's were able to let this trade with such high volumes. Very interesting to learn how these schemes work.
Posted by T e x on :
gotchya...
Posted by beechwood on :
It should be noted that the best runs off a R/M were the ones NOT in the news. Take LFZA for example. A real sleeper. To my recollection that wasn't on any shell stock message board, any R/M board, or on anyone's else's radar for that matter. I'm a little leary of pumped plays like this. Especially when there are so many pittfalls.
The SEC could put a halt on trading due to all the illegal and unregistered shares flooding the market. Your broker could put a halt on buys. MM's could be dangling a big carrot in our face in an effort to get back the money they gave up on the initial short squeeze. And like the above poster said, this could go right back to where it started. Lots of variables here. Play the momo while you can and don't be greedy. Let your free shares ride if she does take off. And with any luck we'll hitch a ride on a wild ride.
Posted by williamjones on :
This would have been a good one to get in on Thurs AM. From reading IHUB and other boards it seems it will skyrocket on Monday open just from retail - regardless of whether the 'story' iis true or not. I'll keep an eye on it late Monday / Tuesday to see how much is hype vs reality. I've seen this before and know it can all be very dissapointing for thos who jump the gun Monday.
Posted by beechwood on :
Thursday saw this break .0025 by lunchtime off an opening of .001 or so. She closed on a downward trend at .0022 It's that EOD downturn that concerns me. My guess is that this will gap up at the bell on Monday OR do the classic early morning pullback followed by a rally that could break .003 It's a real toss up at this point. In either case I think it'll be a pure momo run and, if it does take off, it won't last long. That said, take most of your profits early and let the freebies run.
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
Following our exclusive interview with The BigHub.com Inc. (OTC: BHUB) Interim President Darrel Peterson, the company released news Thursday afternoon, telling shareholders among other things, that the company filed and brought current corporate annual reports with the State of Florida. Those updates should take effect and be reflected on the state's website within 3-5 business days.
The company also officially announced that its board of directors appointed Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer as the new stock transfer agent of the company. The BigHub.com also mentioned in the late day news release that it expected PinkSheets to update the corporate listing on the company.
Yesterday, that information was indeed updated to display the management, corporate address and contact information that has been included in recent news releases from the company. Most importantly, the information confirmed that there has been no share authorization increase since the last 10-Q SEC filing that indicated there were 50,000,000 shares authorized. The number of outstanding shares has yet to be provided, most likely because the company is still waiting for Select Stock Transfer, its former transfer agent, to forward documents to corporate counsel and Olde Monmouth. This should be done by the end of business on Monday and another shareholder update should be issued by the company.
Micro cap traders are keenly watching what is an extremely explosive situation surrounding this possibly hijacked shell and what looks to have been a massive amount of unregistered or illegal shares dumped on the open market that might now have to be bought back. The stock brings to mind a couple of other penny stocks that have had significant gains in the past following a massive short squeeze due to issues stemming from irregular trading activity.
Let's flashback to July 19, 2006 when shares of Paivis Corp. (OTC: PAIV) doubled to hit $.153 on heavy volume of 48 million shares. If that day's percentage gain was shocking, it was relatively small compared to the unbelievable 15,000% rise the stock had since May 22. The move higher began amid confusion, when on May 22, the company, under a merger agreement issued shares to be received by Jupiter Global Holdings Corp. (OTC: JPHC) shareholders as restricted securities defined by Rule 144. The Depository Trust Company confirmed no allocation of any shares had taken place by them due to the restricted nature of those shares and the fact that the merger shares were not physically received by Depository Trust Company for further allocation. However, judging by the volume of billions of shares being exchanged, it appeared at the time that those shares had been accidentally handed over to customers by certain brokerage firms. On June 29, the company issued a clarification, stating that Jupiter shareholders must surrender their Jupiter common share certificate to the Paivis transfer agent in order to receive their merger shares certificate. All the while, the price began to rapidly increase. The market price began to reflect a massive short squeeze because the merger shares of Paivis were not supposed to be issued.
Another company that comes to mind is American Way Business Development (OTC: AWYB) that had some terrific price appreciation starting in September 2006 after it announced a share structure of 12.8 million authorized shares consisting of 10 million shares restricted and 2.8 million free trading shares in the public float. However, because the average volume was increasingly around 5 million shares a day since it had underwent a reverse split, there must have been illegal or so-called "naked short shares" floating in the market place. The heavy trading was probably a result of pre-split shares being allowed to trade or just plain counterfeit shares. Either way, the stock price climbed an estimated 1,000%.
What looks to be more of a similar case to that of The BigHub.com Inc. is Bancorp International Group Inc. (OTC: BCIT) which was a victim of corporate identity fraud. In May 2005, there was an illegal attempt to take over the company by Carter Care Inc. by way of a purported reverse merger. Soon after, millions of shares hit the market, but the official printed and issued shares of BCIT never exceeded the 4.89 million shares that actually existed. Though the stock did have a similar percentage gain, the company was ultimately halted by the Securities and Exchange Commission a few weeks later because the securities trading in the name of Bancorp International Group, Inc. were counterfeit.
After reading some past cases, and knowing that there is an extremely small amount of shares authorized compared to the daily trading volume of BigHub.com common stock, there are most definitely some pretty nice gains still ahead if you are long The BigHub.com Inc. However, the risk remains that the problem of unregistered or illegal shares might have to be cleared up by a higher authority and that unfortunately might mean a trading halt by the Securities and Exchange Commission in the near future.
The author does not have a vested interest in The BigHub.com Inc. (OTC: BHUB), Paivis Corp. (OTC: PAIV), Jupiter Global Holdings Corp. (OTC: JPHC), American Way Business Development (OTC: AWYB ) nor Bancorp International Group Inc. (OTC: BCIT).
Posted by ZeroCool on :
1)petition injuction to cease and desist t/a issue of fraudulent shares w/subpeona of issuances
2)file current and up to date info. w/State of inc. and sec
3)petition injuction to declare fraudulent shares void
Yucatan has expressed there desire to proceed thruough District Court action, rather than SEC. Once the fraudulent shares are court ordered "void"- SEC law requires broker's who brokered those shares, purchase those shares.(trying to verify that statute). I think Sandy tried using that rule with the ol 10,000 to 1 strategy, all the while, buying back common shares- making BKMP only responsible to the corresponding pref. shares. Broker's new it, that's why they refused to put them in your account-
Also, estimates avg. about 1.5b shares fraudulent- which, if you add how many trades were shorted back and forth? I don't know the math, but, could be 25% higher.
I'll find out monday or tuesday about the exact filings and date's, court, judge, content's, etc...and post.
I'm considering doubling down.
anybody out there playing more $$$ than me. If it's not too big a deal- I'd like to know that the legitimate float is in hand.
thank you in advance
Posted by CashCowDave on :
I may play the BHUB Powerball..maybe $200 worth..lol.. it could be a PAIV..or it could be a BCIT.. going to be a lot of PO'ed people if this stock suspended pre-market Monday for SEC investigation..they did it to CKYS..it can happen..
sooo, I may venture a teeny bit.. that way it's for sure I won't LOSE but a teeny bit..but, who knows?.. I may make a teeny bit.. that's fine with me!
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
IMO the SEC suspended ckys after they had began an investigation of the fraudulant information diseminated by Plant and his cronies.
The SEC could step in and stop trading but that hurts everyone but Sparow, the TA and the MM's. Yucatan, needs to have their day in court. If they dont then they are damaged also, because once the stock is suspended, this shell will no longer be viable. No MM will touch this with a 10 foot pole. The company should have the chance to clean up this mess that wasnt their mess to clean and the shareholders should have the chance to sell in the market. I wonder how many brokers will not allow buys in the AM? TMAN...
Posted by Gary59 on :
Not to post on the wrong thread but what ever happend to JPHC I still have shares lost somewhere , Scottrade says they where sent to the transfer agent and the transfer agent says scotttrade did not send so I email every month or so to see if anything has been found but no luck so far.. Sorry to post here but was mentioned , and no thread current about it .. Garyv JPHC bag holder
Posted by tradinggal on :
AHHHH!!! I had this stock at .0001 and I thought I would never sell it so I set up a GTC order for .0002. Then I took a break from trading. I AM SOOOOOO PISSSSSEDDD!!!!
I am sorry if this sounds mean but I really hope this doesnt go any higher or I will have to kill myself.
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by tradinggal: AHHHH!!! I had this stock at .0001 and I thought I would never sell it so I set up a GTC order for .0002. Then I took a break from trading. I AM SOOOOOO PISSSSSEDDD!!!!
I am sorry if this sounds mean but I really hope this doesnt go any higher or I will have to kill myself.
get your gun ready...
Posted by kermit42 on :
Sorry tradingal. I hardly knew ye.
Posted by beechwood on :
I bought into this at .0004 last month and sold it off at .0016 when it ran last week (it went on to .002 the same day). Still, a 400% gain for me on that play, yep, yep. I watched it drop back to the high triple zeros but didn't pull the trigger as I thought it would drop even lower....grrrrr.... I'll be locked & loaded to see what happens on opening bell. Will she pull back or gap up? Either way she's primed to run if the SEC (or your broker) doesn't put a lid on it before the bell tommorrow. Keep yer fingers crossed and yer powder dry.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Dog, saw that you had deleted your initial post that I replied to, but I guess I replied before then, opening it up to further discussion. Sorry about that...
Anyway, I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that you're misunderstanding what's going on here. The R/M was flatly denied by BHUB. No one is playing this as a shell with a R/M. The company has an authorized share count of 50 milion, and like 680+million shares traded on Thursday alone. I own 2.5 million, someone else posted that they own 5 million, and it's pretty much guaranteed that the float is owned many times over by people here and IHub alone. Remeber, this is 50 million share AUTHORIZED, so the company couldn't even dilute into it, unless they change the bylaws to increase the A/S.
So this is a broker/TA error play, and potential MOASS, and nothing to do with a R/M.
If you already knew that, then my apologies, but if you didn't, hopefully I shed some light on it for you.
Take care.
Edit: P.S. I am riding free shares, so I'm pretty relaxed about this whole thing, and can certainly understand and appreciate your words of advice to everyone to protect capital and not get greedy. Words to live by for this, and all other plays.
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: Someone else asked me my opinion and this is what I said, "I saw this too late to take a position and staying well clear of it for my own reasons. Very shaky ground here. I've been wrong before. it would have been awesome to get in this before the run - coulda woulda. Free shares riding would be the best way to play this now imo. The people in charge of this shell could be the very people that started the rumor about the RM."
Someone found this shell and got it going, and just like a shakerzzzz play this could take a fast plunge right back where it came from. imo the people that know how to play these are already out or riding free shares - come Monday the only support left will be those newBs that want to stick their necks out. That may give it a boost and then the free riders will be competing to get out. The "much more" to the story would be the "who" and how the company responded and how the MM's were able to let this trade with such high volumes. Very interesting to learn how these schemes work.
Posted by cottonjim on :
What a long f'n weekend that was, bring on the bell Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Dog, saw that you had deleted your initial post that I replied to, but I guess I replied before then, opening it up to further discussion. Sorry about that...
Anyway, I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that you're misunderstanding what's going on here. The R/M was flatly denied by BHUB. No one is playing this as a shell with a R/M. The company has an authorized share count of 50 milion, and like 680+million shares traded on Thursday alone. I own 2.5 million, someone else posted that they own 5 million, and it's pretty much guaranteed that the float is owned many times over by people here and IHub alone. Remeber, this is 50 million share AUTHORIZED, so the company couldn't even dilute into it, unless they change the bylaws to increase the A/S.
So this is a broker/TA error play, and potential MOASS, and nothing to do with a R/M.
If you already knew that, then my apologies, but if you didn't, hopefully I shed some light on it for you.
Take care.
Edit: P.S. I am riding free shares, so I'm pretty relaxed about this whole thing, and can certainly understand and appreciate your words of advice to everyone to protect capital and not get greedy. Words to live by for this, and all other plays.
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: Someone else asked me my opinion and this is what I said, "I saw this too late to take a position and staying well clear of it for my own reasons. Very shaky ground here. I've been wrong before. it would have been awesome to get in this before the run - coulda woulda. Free shares riding would be the best way to play this now imo. The people in charge of this shell could be the very people that started the rumor about the RM."
Someone found this shell and got it going, and just like a shakerzzzz play this could take a fast plunge right back where it came from. imo the people that know how to play these are already out or riding free shares - come Monday the only support left will be those newBs that want to stick their necks out. That may give it a boost and then the free riders will be competing to get out. The "much more" to the story would be the "who" and how the company responded and how the MM's were able to let this trade with such high volumes. Very interesting to learn how these schemes work.
I follow you PCOLA. The rumor of a RM is what started this whole play, imo the RM denial played into this a bit also. The pr on the 28th wasn't very convincing imo as far as pinks go. The pr on the 5th did much better but by then the wheels were already rolling. Now it's an all out scramble to beat some mm's. So who started the rumor and why? manipulating a shell with this rumor sending the company to general quarters claiming they had nothing to do with it and none of it was their fault. I'm just watching how this plays out. If I saw this rumor when it first started I may have thrown $100 in at .0003. just on the chance of an rm. The company share structure at this point appears to be out the window unless they can halt it and force proof of shareholder certs. Good luck to all on this short squeez! moass - I had to look that up! lol. mother of all short squeezes!!
Posted by JimSC on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: What a long f'n weekend that was, bring on the bell
Major correction expected on Monday. My prediction is based on the fact: any pink stock must go thru a correction after rising 200% in a short time, due to profit taking -- if you don't take profit, the MMs and traders will. You can get a better deal if you can wait 3 to 4 days to get in.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
I don't think this will be restricted by the SEC. Yucatan will have their day in court- they have said as much. Also, they are required to report any actions they are taking with the SEC. Broker's will want it, and probably cry to have it suspended. But, in the end- if the SEC got involved- they would be required to buy the shares they distributed(meaning broker's); and I have never heard of the SEC freezing a stocks price and let it trade to cover those shares. This will head toward a MOASS, and the broker's and shorts know this- hence the volume- anything past 20m I think- is all Fraud & shorts.
Once this hits .016; going, going, gone!
Posted by PCola77 on :
Cool, wasn't trying to convince you of anything, just wasn't sure if you were aware of that stuff. And like I said, I've taken my initial capital off the table. I'm willing to let the rest ride.
quote:Originally posted by BooDog:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Dog, saw that you had deleted your initial post that I replied to, but I guess I replied before then, opening it up to further discussion. Sorry about that...
Anyway, I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that you're misunderstanding what's going on here. The R/M was flatly denied by BHUB. No one is playing this as a shell with a R/M. The company has an authorized share count of 50 milion, and like 680+million shares traded on Thursday alone. I own 2.5 million, someone else posted that they own 5 million, and it's pretty much guaranteed that the float is owned many times over by people here and IHub alone. Remeber, this is 50 million share AUTHORIZED, so the company couldn't even dilute into it, unless they change the bylaws to increase the A/S.
So this is a broker/TA error play, and potential MOASS, and nothing to do with a R/M.
If you already knew that, then my apologies, but if you didn't, hopefully I shed some light on it for you.
Take care.
Edit: P.S. I am riding free shares, so I'm pretty relaxed about this whole thing, and can certainly understand and appreciate your words of advice to everyone to protect capital and not get greedy. Words to live by for this, and all other plays.
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: Someone else asked me my opinion and this is what I said, "I saw this too late to take a position and staying well clear of it for my own reasons. Very shaky ground here. I've been wrong before. it would have been awesome to get in this before the run - coulda woulda. Free shares riding would be the best way to play this now imo. The people in charge of this shell could be the very people that started the rumor about the RM."
Someone found this shell and got it going, and just like a shakerzzzz play this could take a fast plunge right back where it came from. imo the people that know how to play these are already out or riding free shares - come Monday the only support left will be those newBs that want to stick their necks out. That may give it a boost and then the free riders will be competing to get out. The "much more" to the story would be the "who" and how the company responded and how the MM's were able to let this trade with such high volumes. Very interesting to learn how these schemes work.
I follow you PCOLA. The rumor of a RM is what started this whole play, imo the RM denial played into this a bit also. The pr on the 28th wasn't very convincing imo as far as pinks go. The pr on the 5th did much better but by then the wheels were already rolling. Now it's an all out scramble to beat some mm's. So who started the rumor and why? manipulating a shell with this rumor sending the company to general quarters claiming they had nothing to do with it and none of it was their fault. I'm just watching how this plays out. If I saw this rumor when it first started I may have thrown $100 in at .0003. just on the chance of an rm. The company share structure at this point appears to be out the window unless they can halt it and force proof of shareholder certs. Good luck to all on this short squeez! moass - I had to look that up! lol. mother of all short squeezes!!
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by JimSC:
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: What a long f'n weekend that was, bring on the bell
Major correction expected on Monday. My prediction is based on the fact: any pink stock must go thru a correction after rising 200% in a short time, due to profit taking -- if you don't take profit, the MMs and traders will. You can get a better deal if you can wait 3 to 4 days to get in.
This is not one i'm in jim, just watching. I was in and out on Thurs. but based on the hype Fri-Sun. I might have to get back in on Monday for a quick pop. The threat of a SEC suspenstion is real but I have a feeling they will let things ride for a bit before calling the halt, there is money to be made and the SEC is the ultimate insider "if you know what I mean." Besides, I just wana ride the momo for what its worth, I just need to find the entry, thas all.
Posted by T e x on :
lol, I wouldn't get near it, first rattle outta of the box... If I had to guess? some schooling going on tomorrow...
Posted by T e x on :
update: this guy *might* be onto something...he says it could affect the OS, but I don't see how on first glance, given the "confirmed" AS...
I don't have time to dig through it, cuz of early morning coming:
quote:Ok, cum out, cum out all you scientologists! I kant figger if BHUB is mo funnier, or mo skammier..
Ok we alreddy know BHUB iz Yukatan's munny tree b-cuz of the 1999 agreement allowing Yucatan to be issued billions of unregistered shares(thus giving them control of tha cumpany), shown in this 2000 13D, so they need 2 keep tha "gitt shorty" deal goin full speed 2 sell tha sharez. Thatz alreddy been established: http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0000950144%252D00...
Now letz digg deeper to find tha nutz and boltz of this skam. Letz check out this guy, the former principal of BHUB: Frank Denny, Stilden co. same adr as BHUB at 2939 Moss Rock, Suite 100, San Antonio, Texas 78230: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1093192/0001017062-00-000454.txt
Well so now we know Denny got interests in BHUB along with Yukatan and iz down with a group of old skool scientology fraudsters. So letz check out tha latest "stolen corporate id" evidence: It appears to hinge on a John Sparrow "hijacking" the shell, with the delusional belief that it took a year and a half for Yukatan to "figger it out". Well letz see what Sparrow did afta tha so-called "hijacking", he startz 2 run a deal with Advanced Growing Systems, letz look at Advanced Growing Systems address: http://www.agsincorporated.com/ 18201 Von Karman, Suite 550 Irvine, CA 92612
Oh my, why thatz right nexxxxt 2 where Dennyz old skool Scientology scammer Ballah wuz runnin skamz when he wuz workin with BHUB/Denny: http://www.secinfo.com/d11t8j.4f8ad.htm 2575 McCabe Way, Irvine California 92614
We alreddy know due 2 tha fact Yukatan waited until AFTA tha "cyberhand" pump 2 make an appearance, therez a 99% probability THAT deal wuz done with Yukatanz knowledge(so they cudd dump billions of their unregistered shares of tha 1999 agreeement), and NOW here we have the smoking gun that they are innnn DEEEP with a buncha Scientology Pyramid scammerz dumppin HUGGGE tellin every buddy EVERYTHIN but tha outstandin shares, LOL!!
Well, untill 2morrow that iz. Now I know why Yukatan wuzent gunna just milk it at .0008- Pyramid skammaz are like tha Gypsies- they don't wait araound- they take tha munny KWIK! With tha message board plantz showin up, tha skam wuz gittin obvious anyway- only missin tha nutz and tha boltz.
And what kind of nutz gitt uncovered with just an hour of diggin: Scientology pyramid skammaz!!
Lookz like Yukatan takin ALL of L Ron Hunnards advice:
"The governing policy of finance is to MAKE MONEY, MAKE MORE MONEY, MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MONEY
Tex, you come up with any more on this? Like you said, if the A/S is 50 million, that's all that the company can issue legally, right? So if the company put more shares than that out there, wouldn't they then be liable to buy them back?
This is not a case where a company can dilute and screw the people playing the short, so I can't understand what he's getting at exactly.
Oh well. My best guess is it won't go as high as some people think or as low as others think Posted by bullpicks6 on :
150 Million is the real O/S of this company...per the president, per the T/A...just a little FYI...look for a PR today Posted by PCola77 on :
Okay, I must not understand something. How can O/S be 150mil if A/S is 50 mil?
bullpicks, did you get that from the TA, or a third party?
Posted by tompom on :
.003 break coming...
Posted by BULListic on :
Up 50% on 53M served....I smell pennyland soon....
Posted by tompom on :
it will go nuts after .0035 imo
Posted by PCola77 on :
A/S traded 1.5x in 10 minutes.
Posted by MillerTIME on :
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by PCola77 on :
You're in this too? Nice.
I know you tend to be conservative with your calls, so can you call this to $1
quote:Originally posted by MillerTIME: WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by tompom on :
took some profit again at .0034 .0035 is resistance it seems...
Posted by PCola77 on :
already through that "resistance" tom Posted by BULListic on :
160M served and HOD at .0038
Resistance is.....how high can you go.....
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: already through that "resistance" tom
yep i was wrong...
Posted by Jenna on :
PC- check your PM's, you may find that you have one from me.... Posted by Jenna on :
Sorry- was a double post... Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
HI JENNNA!!!! you in this with the rest of us? TMAN... Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Tex, you come up with any more on this? Like you said, if the A/S is 50 million, that's all that the company can issue legally, right? So if the company put more shares than that out there, wouldn't they then be liable to buy them back?
This is not a case where a company can dilute and screw the people playing the short, so I can't understand what he's getting at exactly.
Oh well. My best guess is it won't go as high as some people think or as low as others think
WTG M8. I missed this ride. and stayed out. Still learning. better safe than sorry. Thanks for your input! 5 Stars!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: HI JENNNA!!!! you in this with the rest of us? TMAN...
Hey T-man!!! In it just for a little, just to see what happens...
got to go to work now...good luck all!!!
Posted by tompom on :
this thing is so much fun today awesome!
Posted by PCola77 on :
Thanks man, and don't be hard on yourself, no matter how long you've been doing this, I think you're always "still learning". I've only been doing this for like a year, so I'm far from a seasoned vet, which is why i always look for input from some of the "old guys" when i have a chance. Best way to learn here is to learn from them, instead of wearing blinders. Opposing opinions (as opposed to flat out bashes) are always welcome, and necessary.
quote:Originally posted by BooDog:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Tex, you come up with any more on this? Like you said, if the A/S is 50 million, that's all that the company can issue legally, right? So if the company put more shares than that out there, wouldn't they then be liable to buy them back?
This is not a case where a company can dilute and screw the people playing the short, so I can't understand what he's getting at exactly.
Oh well. My best guess is it won't go as high as some people think or as low as others think
WTG M8. I missed this ride. and stayed out. Still learning. better safe than sorry. Thanks for your input! 5 Stars!
Posted by PCola77 on :
I agree. I keep refreshing and saying to myself "Okay, if it's still at .0032 or higher I'll be happy. And it's at like .0041. It's ridiculous.
QUOTE]Originally posted by tompom: this thing is so much fun today awesome! [/QUOTE]
Posted by tompom on :
doing my 3rd flip on it already last entry .0036 gobabygo!
Posted by PCola77 on :
Third flip today or 3rd flip overall?
Posted by tompom on :
.0043 new hod
Posted by farmerboy on :
I sold out in the high 3's. Greed will get most and wonder what happened. There is always another one around the corner.
Posted by PCola77 on :
What'd you get in at?
quote:Originally posted by farmerboy: I sold out in the high 3's. Greed will get most and wonder what happened. There is always another one around the corner.
Posted by SherriT on :
Anyone think this sucker is about done?
Posted by tompom on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Anyone think this sucker is about done?
i´m out for now but watching like a hawk for another flip
Posted by kermit42 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Anyone think this sucker is about done?
Nobody's who's paying attention. This won't be done until the SEC halts it. Which could be anytime, but probably not for 1-3 weeks.
Posted by surgeon of steel on :
Weeeheeeheee Posted by JimSC on :
quote:Originally posted by farmerboy: I sold out in the high 3's. Greed will get most and wonder what happened. There is always another one around the corner.
Great job, Farmerboy. Another good one is here -- take a look at:
PDGT -- 0.0007.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Just hit a new HOD at .0044
Edit: of course, I just jinxed it. Back down to .0041
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
If any of you have less than $25,000....There is now a broker that lets you daytrade all you want with less than $25,000.
Plus it's a penson broker with omni pro trading platform, and free level 2's for pinks, too.
It's legally structured as if the whold broker is pooling the money together, to help you meet the $25 k sec requirement.
But you money is kept in your Penson account say it's safe and legal.
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
BHUB is insane ! ! ! over 2 million in dollar volume, and over 2000 trades
Posted by tompom on :
back in at .0042
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
Many penny Traders are saying we got a AWYB type run comming here boys ! ! !
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Tex, you come up with any more on this? Like you said, if the A/S is 50 million, that's all that the company can issue legally, right? So if the company put more shares than that out there, wouldn't they then be liable to buy them back?
This is not a case where a company can dilute and screw the people playing the short, so I can't understand what he's getting at exactly.
Oh well. My best guess is it won't go as high as some people think or as low as others think
nope...left early this morning and just now getting back... I posted it in case it might affect today's trading, and of course in case there actually is a tie between Yucatan & Spparrow-Wong: If so, would make it easier to suspend, imo... anyway. got some catching up to do...
Hope you're enjoying the roller-coaster ride...
Posted by SherriT on :
I almost bought some this morning hoping to get to .0045 today, and see that I would have been right (good feeling) - still made the money elsewhere, but wanted to say congrats to all here - GREAT PLAY!
Posted by Ace of Spades on :
SherriT...Its not to late to buy more BHUB
Posted by juice on :
yeah BHUB, making me rich!! Posted by Jenna on :
I haven't been around today...
Is there any more news or does anyone think that this will continue?....Who's responsible for the "extra" shares that were traded?
Posted by PCola77 on :
What'd you work like a 4 hour day? Must be nice
Nothing new. No one really knows who is responsible for them at this point, as far as I know.
All i know is with an A/S of 50 million, and over 11x that many traded just today, somethign doesn't add up. Right now I'm betting against a halt, but if a halt comes it will probably come without warning, so don't leave more in here than you are willing to lose. (That's for all of you, not just Jenna)
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I haven't been around today...
Is there any more news or does anyone think that this will continue?....Who's responsible for the "extra" shares that were traded?
Posted by Jenna on :
Hey PC!! Real funny Mister. I do half my work outside of my home then I do all the documentation at home....so suck an egg (an Easter egg that is)... Posted by kermit42 on :
Ahh, nice little bounce back now that the day traders are out. Should close at or near HOD.
Another possible gap in the morning, but this is 4 big white candles in a row. Even PAIV had a down day now and then.
Curious to see what tomorrow brings.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Right now I'd envy anyone working less than 14 hours a day, so don't feel special
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Hey PC!! Real funny Mister. I do half my work outside of my home then I do all the documentation at home....so suck an egg (an Easter egg that is)...
Posted by Jenna on :
PC- I hope your boss gives you a break once in a while!!! If he doesn't tell him that you are starting to feel "postal", that should work!
Posted by PCola77 on :
No break til June 4th. Nice bonus check shortly thereafter... If I keep hitting plays like BHUB, resgnation letter soon after that
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: PC- I hope your boss gives you a break once in a while!!! If he doesn't tell him that you are starting to feel "postal", that should work!
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Cola- no sweat, I was aware of that. Also, I remember last month I found float of 20m- cannot find where the hell i found it- still looking....will post
I'm with you- also betting against the The Trading suspension. Yucatan is doing everything they can to keep that from happening. If the SEC does suspend trading- It will be temporary. Yucatan, has probably gathered and investigated all the information, and what they don't have- they will subpeona in the court order. I don't believe the SEC will get involved too much, if a District Court Judge is already doing the job. I should find out by Wednesday- the legal filings.
Also, I am of the frame of mind- that the SEC will follow statutes, and not try to help out the brokers- "possibly 1.5b shares frudulent" that's alot of money that could run away to the next galaxy, lol...or at least $3.00
Posted by T e x on :
lol...
zero? what *does* this mean: "If the SEC does suspend trading- It will be temporary."
Posted by PCola77 on :
I was wondering that as well Tex. BCIT has been "temporarily" suspended for what, 2 years now?
Posted by T e x on :
lol...good one...
no, the sec suspension lasted 10 days, per routine...greys, needing form 211 etc...
this is one of those grey areas like GVRP's last r/s, which was effected by TA and brokers...BUT never on the dailylist...
However, BCIT may see a filing soon, which *could* lead to trading again...
Posted by beechwood on :
I made a 400% gain on the initial run and I'll leave it at that (in*.0004 & out *.0016). Something about this just doesn't smell right at this point (no, I didn't pass gas). A halt could come at any time. I might throw a few more C notes at it just for kicks but that's about it. I wouldn't go long on this one folks.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: Cola- no sweat, I was aware of that. Also, I remember last month I found float of 20m- cannot find where the hell i found it- still looking....will post
I'm with you- also betting against the The Trading suspension. Yucatan is doing everything they can to keep that from happening. If the SEC does suspend trading- It will be temporary. Yucatan, has probably gathered and investigated all the information, and what they don't have- they will subpeona in the court order. I don't believe the SEC will get involved too much, if a District Court Judge is already doing the job. I should find out by Wednesday- the legal filings.
Also, I am of the frame of mind- that the SEC will follow statutes, and not try to help out the brokers- "possibly 1.5b shares frudulent" that's alot of money that could run away to the next galaxy, lol...or at least $3.00
anyway, for real--what does this mean: "SEC suspension temporary" ???
Posted by PCola77 on :
Who goes "long" on any of these?
Anyway, appreciate and respect the heads up, but I am gonna let this one play out. I took my capital off the table, and am willing to see where it goes from here.
quote:Originally posted by beechwood: I made a 400% gain on the initial run and I'll leave it at that (in*.0004 & out *.0016). Something about this just doesn't smell right at this point (no, I didn't pass gas). A halt could come at any time. I might throw a few more C notes at it just for kicks but that's about it. I wouldn't go long on this one folks.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Pcola, happy for ya- seasoned trader move, win/win. I doubled down yesterday, and took my capital back today- see where the rest goes.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: Pcola, happy for ya- seasoned trader move, win/win. I doubled down yesterday, and took my capital back today- see where the rest goes.
lol, you don't see questions addressed to you?
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: Cola- no sweat, I was aware of that. Also, I remember last month I found float of 20m- cannot find where the hell i found it- still looking....will post
I'm with you- also betting against the The Trading suspension. Yucatan is doing everything they can to keep that from happening. If the SEC does suspend trading- It will be temporary. Yucatan, has probably gathered and investigated all the information, and what they don't have- they will subpeona in the court order. I don't believe the SEC will get involved too much, if a District Court Judge is already doing the job. I should find out by Wednesday- the legal filings.
Also, I am of the frame of mind- that the SEC will follow statutes, and not try to help out the brokers- "possibly 1.5b shares frudulent" that's alot of money that could run away to the next galaxy, lol...or at least $3.00
anyway, for real--what does this mean: "SEC suspension temporary" ???
Tex, I meant- if and when the SEC suspend's trading- it will not last long(14-45 days I would guess) I say this because, disposition of the fraudulent shares will be court ordered "void". The uproar this would cause-(seriously...think about it)- would be craaaazy! So, I think eventually, they will have to let the squeeze run. But, I am cautious that- they will have a convenient amount of time to buy back without breakin' there balz. I don't think there is much they can do without violating statutes, unless they ratify the statute- and you know how fast the American Lawmaker's are- "we are working toward a viable and satifactory agreement"...blah,blah,blah.
Anyway, sorry so winded, I have been tearin' up the lines with this one. I just need 4 more peices of verification, and I will know how this will play. All imo, of course. will post, if you're interested.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: Pcola, happy for ya- seasoned trader move, win/win. I doubled down yesterday, and took my capital back today- see where the rest goes.
lol, you don't see questions addressed to you?
TEX, sorry dude- SLOOOOWWW typer!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: Cola- no sweat, I was aware of that. Also, I remember last month I found float of 20m- cannot find where the hell i found it- still looking....will post
I'm with you- also betting against the The Trading suspension. Yucatan is doing everything they can to keep that from happening. If the SEC does suspend trading- It will be temporary. Yucatan, has probably gathered and investigated all the information, and what they don't have- they will subpeona in the court order. I don't believe the SEC will get involved too much, if a District Court Judge is already doing the job. I should find out by Wednesday- the legal filings.
Also, I am of the frame of mind- that the SEC will follow statutes, and not try to help out the brokers- "possibly 1.5b shares frudulent" that's alot of money that could run away to the next galaxy, lol...or at least $3.00
anyway, for real--what does this mean: "SEC suspension temporary" ???
Tex, I meant- if and when the SEC suspend's trading- it will not last long(14-45 days I would guess) I say this because, disposition of the fraudulent shares will be court ordered "void". The uproar this would cause-(seriously...think about it)- would be craaaazy! So, I think eventually, they will have to let the squeeze run. But, I am cautious that- they will have a convenient amount of time to buy back without breakin' there balz. I don't think there is much they can do without violating statutes, unless they ratify the statute- and you know how fast the American Lawmaker's are- "we are working toward a viable and satifactory agreement"...blah,blah,blah.
Anyway, sorry so winded, I have been tearin' up the lines with this one. I just need 4 more peices of verification, and I will know how this will play. All imo, of course. will post, if you're interested.
Zero...
SEC suspension is for 10 days...
to do another one? they have to show a reason different from the original suspension
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Tex-- SEC has "administrative judges" that can "suspend trading" for pretty much anything within the boundaries of law, and for any amount of time. I didn't know it was for 10 days- have never seen it less than 14, thanks. I do know- they "scale the reason's", in order to have leverage with any investigation. IMO this is a huge can of worms for the SEC- I think they will let Yucatan pursue it(they have already been investigating it for ??3mo??) Still hitting the books- to find out the intrepetive law v Statute. I think in the end- the SEC will either be- all in or fold. I will have a better idea midweek, hopefully. Just waiting confirmation of court filings. Will post if you're interested.
EDIT:: Also, I don't mean they can suspend 10 times in a row- but extensions can and probably will be filed pending criminal, civil, several discovery and motion hearings,blah,blah. hurry and wait, bit by bit.lol
Posted by T e x on :
think you're confusing administrative hearings with suspensions...
lol...just what is it you *have* seen? You kinda make it sound as though you've seen a lot...but your posts ??? well, not so much...
for instance, why would this play be such a huge can o worms?
ya, let us what you find re "intrepetive law v Statute."
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: think you're confusing administrative hearings with suspensions...
lol...just what is it you *have* seen? You kinda make it sound as though you've seen a lot...but your posts ??? well, not so much...
for instance, why would this play be such a huge can o worms?
ya, let us what you find re "intrepetive law v Statute."
Tex- "have seen"- everyday applications of these laws. "Criminal"- changes the way it will be disposed of. Also, I am not confusing administrative hearings with suspensions. Suspensions are applied by SEC regulatory actions. Administrative hearing's are "quick access" Judges(magistrates basically) they are for stop-gap. Every acronym branch of the Federal Civil Government has administrative.
As for my post's being "not so much..."- dude, thanks for your criticism, any particular's you would like to bash me about?lol But I have been doing pretty great since I started trading pennies.(for what that's worth) and "ya, let you know what I find out about the law in this case"? Sarcasm? If you don't want to know, don't ask- it's cool. But, sarcasm? I would never treat you rudely. I believe what the Criminal and Civil court decides along the way, will tell me when to get out. IMO
"can o' worms"- because if we as shareholders feel we are getting screwed by this play- it only takes 5 of us to class actions- that will stop everything in it's tracks. years will go by settling this.
Posted by T e x on :
give it shot...maybe you'll last here---as far as waiting on civil or criminal decisions? Obviously, that's too late to decide on an exit...
good luck--we'll see about the particulars... Posted by tompom on :
The BigHub.com, Inc. Receives Information from Select American Transfer Company Apr 10, 2007 8:30:00 AM
JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The BigHub.com, Inc. (OTC Pinksheets: BHUB) announced today that the prior stock transfer agent, Select American Transfer Company, has informed the Company that there are currently 1,580,847,798 shares issued. The shares issued are 1,530,847,798 more than the legal authorized shares of the Company and 1,559,162,277 more shares than issued per the Company records.
The Company believes that the excess shares have been issued as unregistered shares, as defined by the Securities and Exchange Act, of a Delaware corporation unaffiliated with the Company. Select American Transfer has provided the Company with a list of all issuances of unregistered shares which commenced on or about September 8, 2005. The Company intends to engage legal counsel in Florida and Toronto to have these shares cancelled and to pursue the parties issued shares from September 8, 2005 through October 25, 2006. The Company will be pursuing damages in excess of $6,600,000.
The Company intends to immediately notify www.pinksheets.com as to the share structure of the Company and provide them with an information statement required under Section 15 ( c) 2-11. We believe the information will be available within 24 hours of submission.
The Company previously announced that it has engaged Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer, Inc. to handle its authorized stock transfers.
The BigHub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB) will continue to review potential business ventures or acquisitions during this process.
SOURCE The BigHub.com, Inc.
Posted by T e x on :
well, there ya go...about as good as could be expected. Sure is interesting.
Posted by williamjones on :
Can someone translate into simple terms - does it mean up and if so what are some target prices??? tia
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Dang. I was off by 500mm shares. Oh well. 1.5 billion is good too. TMAN...
Posted by juice on :
1.5 BILLION LOL wowwwww .01+ no problem here so far this is the best play I've been in. I only expect that to continue.... GL everyone!
Posted by T e x on :
the popular perception is likely to be quite favorable...whether it "proves" a short squeeze is in play, or SEC will remain on the sidelines? Gotta watch the show...
Posted by juice on :
heck yeah tex. fun stuff
Posted by juice on :
6.6m being sought in lawsuit with 50 mil A/S confirmed per pinksheets.com and per company... 6.6mil / 50mill shares = .13 per share thats whats being spread around now hahaha ill settle for .01 even.
Posted by BULListic on :
Now into the area where it will move in .0005 increments instead of .0001, no reason to get out now Posted by PCola77 on :
Ummm, wow. I got in a bit late today and just saw the price. I'm in a good mood, despite having billed 98 hours in the last 8 days for work...
Posted by Jenna on :
PC- YOU ARE A MACHINE!!!
Posted by thesource on :
You guys have one hell of a runner on your hands ...... congrats .
I'll probably just sit on the side lines and watch for now .
Posted by PCola77 on :
Probably the way to go. Tough to tell someone to get in when you're already up 1000%, and it's up 7000% from the bottom.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: You guys have one hell of a runner on your hands ...... congrats .
I'll probably just sit on the side lines and watch for now .
Posted by tompom on :
this stock is a perfect example why we´re wasting our time with these junk-stocks...
Posted by PCola77 on :
Huh?
quote:Originally posted by tompom: this stock is a perfect example why we´re wasting our time with these junk-stocks...
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
OK its time for it to move up again. TMAN...
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by tompom: this stock is a perfect example why we´re wasting our time with these junk-stocks...
Oh my goodness, I think I understand what he's saying.....
I think he means because once in a while one of these "junk" stocks becomes the diamond in the rough...
Am I close Tompom?
Posted by PCola77 on :
Ah, so he means:
this stock is a perfect example of why we "waste our time" with these junk stocks.
meaning other people say "Why do you waste your time with those junk-stocks"?
Makes sense. thanks for the translation Jenna.
Posted by tompom on :
lol that´s exactly what i meant
Posted by Jenna on :
Anybody know what's going on? Is this done running or filling in the gap?
Posted by cottonjim on :
It still hasn't filled the gap from yesterday, if that happens it's going to be a long day!
Posted by SherriT on :
What do you guys think about this one....looks like a good time to buy if it isn't done...
Posted by Jenna on :
Not sure Sherri....PC, you there?
Posted by PCola77 on :
I'll keep saying this, but until some can fit a 1.5 billion share square peg into a 50million authorized share round hole, I'm holding. I'm watching the price, but not concerned about it.
Howvere, that is ONLY because I am riding free shares and too busy at work to have time to worry. Ordinarily I'd have sold and bought back higher at least 4 times on this run Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: It still hasn't filled the gap from yesterday, if that happens it's going to be a long day!
Where was the gap cottonjim? (sorry, newbie question I know, I'm just having a horrible day)
Posted by tompom on :
back in at .0036
Posted by tompom on :
and back up she goes... Posted by Jenna on :
Nice one tompom....
Posted by tompom on :
thx jenna Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: It still hasn't filled the gap from yesterday, if that happens it's going to be a long day!
Where was the gap cottonjim? (sorry, newbie question I know, I'm just having a horrible day)
Gapped .0022-.0026. but i just looked again and it was actualy up to .0026 at one point Friday so "technicaly" there wasn't a gap. It just gapped from close to open.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
At this point, it doesn't matter how this ends- cleared out at .007, got back in .004. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. I got a say- I risked HUGE on this one for a squeeze, but oppurtunity knocked- $30k in ten days- YEAH!!!!
Whoever said .01- preach on brother!
Will post some info tonight.
Play it like you hate it
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by tompom: this stock is a perfect example why we´re wasting our time with these junk-stocks...
T- Does make it all worth it.
Posted by tompom on :
sold the .0036 at .0045 ready for another dip...
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
chck out ATLJ guys, going to be a good play imo. It has bottomed imo , bergain price at the levels
Posted by ZeroCool on :
SEC 21(d)(5) Equitable Relief
In any action or proceeding brought or instituted by the Commission under any provision of the securities laws, the Commission may seek, and any Federal court may grant, any equitable relief that may be appropriate or necessary for the benefit of investors.
Posted by mindspin311 on :
Just waiting on ATLJ getting down to around 0028. Already flipped this twice for decent profits. Probably the best pink I've traded on here thus far. (Since I passed on this at 0015, 0022, and 004.. ~sigh~)
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by tompom: sold the .0036 at .0045 ready for another dip...
Some days are just, fun!
Posted by ZeroCool on :
I guess, the p/r made a few people nervous. Everyone taking profits, worried about suspension- me too.
Honestly, optimistic that they haven't already suspended trading.
Anybody come up with the same math I did. 1.5b shares worth $6.6m= .04????
Posted by PCola77 on :
No. $6,600,000 divided by 50million legit shares is .132 per share
(And no, I don't believe you can really look at it that way.)
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: I guess, the p/r made a few people nervous. Everyone taking profits, worried about suspension- me too.
Honestly, optimistic that they haven't already suspended trading.
Anybody come up with the same math I did. 1.5b shares worth $6.6m= .04????
Posted by ZeroCool on :
yeah, just creep right back up their!
Posted by cottonjim on :
Time for a rebound .005X.0055
Posted by cottonjim on :
I almost hate to have to go to lunch, owell.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PCola77: [qb] No. $6,600,000 divided by 50million legit shares is .132 per share
(And no, I don't believe you can really look at it that way.)
I don't really think of it in terms of ".04" per share--more like, who is entitled to that restitution. BHUB doesn't own the fraudulent shares. Was this dormant Co. really injured to the tune of $6.6m?
Posted by ZeroCool on :
.0054
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: [QUOTE]Originally posted by PCola77: [qb] No. $6,600,000 divided by 50million legit shares is .132 per share
(And no, I don't believe you can really look at it that way.)
I don't really think of it in terms of ".04" per share--more like, who is entitled to that restitution. BHUB doesn't own the fraudulent shares. Was this dormant Co. really injured to the tune of $6.6m?
dont hold your breath waiting for the company to collect any of these claimed damages, could take years to go through the courts and they could settle for mutch less IF it even gets that far! play the hype, protect your gains, dont get greedy!
Posted by T e x on :
good post, MM...
Posted by cottonjim on :
Seems pretty obvious they like this one under .005 so they can play with .0001 ticks instead of .0005's.
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: [QUOTE]Originally posted by PCola77: [qb] No. $6,600,000 divided by 50million legit shares is .132 per share
(And no, I don't believe you can really look at it that way.)
I don't really think of it in terms of ".04" per share--more like, who is entitled to that restitution. BHUB doesn't own the fraudulent shares. Was this dormant Co. really injured to the tune of $6.6m?
dont hold your breath waiting for the company to collect any of these claimed damages, could take years to go through the courts and they could settle for mutch less IF it even gets that far! play the hype, protect your gains, dont get greedy!
Exactly .....
Posted by ZeroCool on :
From SEC.gov-
...the SEC moves as quickly as possible when it considers a trading suspension.
?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Seems pretty obvious they like this one under .005 so they can play with .0001 ticks instead of .0005's.
I'm guessing they're fighting it holding above 6-7ish...could be ignition point.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Zero, your scaring the children Posted by thesource on :
I hope you guys took your own money off the table and are playing with freebies . Good luck to all that made a good profit today .
Posted by SherriT on :
Anyone think we have a good run coming EOD?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Zero, your scaring the children
lol, last night he was betting against a suspension...
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Anyone think we have a good run coming EOD?
I'm betting on it, literally. Also looking for a early morn. run up again as well.
Posted by bullpicks6 on :
I'm loving this play, guys we haven't scratched the surface here...wait till we get a RM, then we'll really be banking, until then steady gains are a thing of beauty...I just hope everyone remembers to take profits on the way up, it's the best way to trade,....then reinvest it in this as it continues to go...but always make sure your keeping your money safe on these plays
Posted by BooDog on :
hard to tell if these are 1mm or 10mm share buys. Lmao a few of them anyway.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: [QUOTE]Originally posted by PCola77: [qb] No. $6,600,000 divided by 50million legit shares is .132 per share
(And no, I don't believe you can really look at it that way.)
I don't really think of it in terms of ".04" per share--more like, who is entitled to that restitution. BHUB doesn't own the fraudulent shares. Was this dormant Co. really injured to the tune of $6.6m?
dont hold your breath waiting for the company to collect any of these claimed damages, could take years to go through the courts and they could settle for mutch less IF it even gets that far! play the hype, protect your gains, dont get greedy!
Mad-- good advice, I'm riding free shares... UNTIL i start to get greedy- then, i'm out.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Zero, your scaring the children
lol, last night he was betting against a suspension...
Tex- still betting against it- point being the SEC hasn't moved yet, I know they are slow, but 1.5b fraud shares?, and they have known about this- for what? a month? I hate those guys!
Posted by PCola77 on :
Take profits then reinvest as it goes up? So you're advocating sell high, buy back higher? So you'd be flipping ot get LESS shares? I'm confused.
quote:Originally posted by bullpicks6: I just hope everyone remembers to take profits on the way up, it's the best way to trade,....then reinvest it in this as it continues to go.
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Zero, your scaring the children
lol, last night he was betting against a suspension...
Tex- still betting against it- point being the SEC hasn't moved yet, I know they are slow, but 1.5b fraud shares?, and they have known about this- for what? a month? I hate those guys!
they did their annual work when they suspended those 30 -35 stocks.... spent their load in one place lol
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Zero, your scaring the children
I know, this has got to be the weirdest thing- and we're making money we all hope for.
For all the crapper's that I have gotten into- this one is by far the worst. Go figure. Whatever it does, will be interesting to watch.
Posted by tompom on :
back in at .0042 one more time lol
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by tompom: back in at .0042 one more time lol
Dude- thinking about adding for flip. What do you think over the next couple days? predictions?
Posted by juice on :
yep bhub is far from over. don't get discouraged here. People were saying that at .0007 its gonna go to .0001. think about the attention alone on this stock. also 1.5 fraud shares, and bhub is a clean shell otherwise with only 50a/s looking to r/m! when that hits combined with the cover you'll be wishing you held em. jmo, im riding freebs but still Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by tompom: back in at .0042 one more time lol
me too
Posted by tompom on :
close above .005 would be great
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by juice: yep bhub is far from over. don't get discouraged here. People were saying that at .0007 its gonna go to .0001. think about the attention alone on this stock. also 1.5 fraud shares, and bhub is a clean shell otherwise with only 50a/s looking to r/m! when that hits combined with the cover you'll be wishing you held em. jmo, im riding freebs but still
Are they in negotiations to R/M, or just looking for someone right now?
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by juice: yep bhub is far from over. don't get discouraged here. People were saying that at .0007 its gonna go to .0001. think about the attention alone on this stock. also 1.5 fraud shares, and bhub is a clean shell otherwise with only 50a/s looking to r/m! when that hits combined with the cover you'll be wishing you held em. jmo, im riding freebs but still
Are they in negotiations to R/M, or just looking for someone right now?
just looking.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by juice: yep bhub is far from over. don't get discouraged here. People were saying that at .0007 its gonna go to .0001. think about the attention alone on this stock. also 1.5 fraud shares, and bhub is a clean shell otherwise with only 50a/s looking to r/m! when that hits combined with the cover you'll be wishing you held em. jmo, im riding freebs but still
Are they in negotiations to R/M, or just looking for someone right now?
just looking.
I would think that, although the shell is clean, that businesses would shy away from one that has the fraud shares like this one does....
Posted by juice on :
true sherry, who really knows Posted by tompom on :
if .0042 breaks she´ll run again imo...
Posted by SherriT on :
Hope you are right tompom!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by juice: yep bhub is far from over. don't get discouraged here. People were saying that at .0007 its gonna go to .0001. think about the attention alone on this stock. also 1.5 fraud shares, and bhub is a clean shell otherwise with only 50a/s looking to r/m! when that hits combined with the cover you'll be wishing you held em. jmo, im riding freebs but still
Are they in negotiations to R/M, or just looking for someone right now?
just looking.
I would think that, although the shell is clean, that businesses would shy away from one that has the fraud shares like this one does....
therefore, the company's position that they will address it through the courts: they don't want stock "problems," and they don't wanna be on greys from having been suspended...they want a clean shell.
Posted by cottonjim on :
what the h*ll, I just bought some more at .0041
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by juice: yep bhub is far from over. don't get discouraged here. People were saying that at .0007 its gonna go to .0001. think about the attention alone on this stock. also 1.5 fraud shares, and bhub is a clean shell otherwise with only 50a/s looking to r/m! when that hits combined with the cover you'll be wishing you held em. jmo, im riding freebs but still
Are they in negotiations to R/M, or just looking for someone right now?
just looking.
I would think that, although the shell is clean, that businesses would shy away from one that has the fraud shares like this one does....
therefore, the company's position that they will address it through the courts: they don't want stock "problems," and they don't wanna be on greys from having been suspended...they want a clean shell.
But wouldn't that sort of thing take time to resolve in courts...i.e. the prospective companies to merge with may not want to wait?
Posted by T e x on :
dunno how quickly Florida could move on ordering a recall...
I think what folks are saying is there's more than a squeeze in play...at "some time" in the future. For now the focus is--or s/b, imo--trading this, as it is... Some will choose to leave some "do or die" shares in for a juicy r/m announcement, later... Others will play this, as is, then watch for r/m news...
Posted by thesource on :
Down she goes ........ I hope everyone took their profits .
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by juice: yep bhub is far from over. don't get discouraged here. People were saying that at .0007 its gonna go to .0001. think about the attention alone on this stock. also 1.5 fraud shares, and bhub is a clean shell otherwise with only 50a/s looking to r/m! when that hits combined with the cover you'll be wishing you held em. jmo, im riding freebs but still
Are they in negotiations to R/M, or just looking for someone right now?
just looking.
I would think that, although the shell is clean, that businesses would shy away from one that has the fraud shares like this one does....
therefore, the company's position that they will address it through the courts: they don't want stock "problems," and they don't wanna be on greys from having been suspended...they want a clean shell.
Cusip change would do it
Posted by SherriT on :
I guess this is the first day in a while this will close red...probably due for it...
(Edit: 911 trade just went through)
Posted by Jimmy Mac on :
Glad to find a point of entry today. I'll take the risk on huge gains here with a limited play. GL all..I think there is a lot more to this story..(gamble)
Jimmy Mac
Posted by 10of13 on :
YUK!..i played this right this morning...flipped it...and then had to leave...came back and what was once green was now this ugly shade of RED! YUK! I am hopin' it will move back up...maybe? pretty please!?!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by juice: yep bhub is far from over. don't get discouraged here. People were saying that at .0007 its gonna go to .0001. think about the attention alone on this stock. also 1.5 fraud shares, and bhub is a clean shell otherwise with only 50a/s looking to r/m! when that hits combined with the cover you'll be wishing you held em. jmo, im riding freebs but still
Are they in negotiations to R/M, or just looking for someone right now?
just looking.
I would think that, although the shell is clean, that businesses would shy away from one that has the fraud shares like this one does....
therefore, the company's position that they will address it through the courts: they don't want stock "problems," and they don't wanna be on greys from having been suspended...they want a clean shell.
Cusip change would do it
do what?
Posted by PCola77 on :
Crazy. I was playing just the "squeeze", even told someone yesterday that there was no R/M play here. Now IHub goofballs seem to be salivating about a potential R/M. I'm with Sherri, if someone was looking for an R/M partner, one would have to think they'd steer away from one with baggage like this.
Never know, I guess, but I think people are being set up for a fall if they are playing it based on a potential R/M.
Posted by SherriT on :
Yippee! I did something right, and PCola agrees with me...
Seriously, to me, it is all about the momo and the squeeeze. Hope we get a gapper in the morning!
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Tex- ...it would clean the shell- fraud and real seperate, clean cut. Bhub goes goes looking for R/m or whatever(without baggage), Yucatan continues on with the fraud shares.
Posted by kermit42 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: YUK!..i played this right this morning...flipped it...and then had to leave...came back and what was once green was now this ugly shade of RED! YUK! I am hopin' it will move back up...maybe? pretty please!?!
A stock like this makes me furious with the "3 day" rule. I flipped once today, and not even all that well, and that's it. I'm stuck until Friday.
I can sell but, no matter what, I can't buy back in again. Bastage SEC!!!
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by kermit42:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: YUK!..i played this right this morning...flipped it...and then had to leave...came back and what was once green was now this ugly shade of RED! YUK! I am hopin' it will move back up...maybe? pretty please!?!
A stock like this makes me furious with the "3 day" rule. I flipped once today, and not even all that well, and that's it. I'm stuck until Friday.
I can sell but, no matter what, I can't buy back in again. Bastage SEC!!!
edit- got what you meant by "3 day", but not at first
Posted by 10of13 on :
kermit...You can sell tomorrow what you bought today...and it isn't a day trade...AND then wait for a dip and get back in the next day...
quote:Originally posted by kermit42:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: YUK!..i played this right this morning...flipped it...and then had to leave...came back and what was once green was now this ugly shade of RED! YUK! I am hopin' it will move back up...maybe? pretty please!?!
A stock like this makes me furious with the "3 day" rule. I flipped once today, and not even all that well, and that's it. I'm stuck until Friday.
I can sell but, no matter what, I can't buy back in again. Bastage SEC!!!
Posted by bullpicks6 on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Take profits then reinvest as it goes up? So you're advocating sell high, buy back higher? So you'd be flipping ot get LESS shares? I'm confused.
quote:Originally posted by bullpicks6: I just hope everyone remembers to take profits on the way up, it's the best way to trade,....then reinvest it in this as it continues to go.
no I should have been a little more specific...take money out of the market, to secure your gains...keep freebies in...and if you still like it, you'll get dips, such as we had here EOD, and you buy more.... The main point I was trying to get across was to make sure people aren't holding huge gains here...you have to take your money on these lotto plays, I don't care how good they are
Posted by stockcop on :
Just make sure you always have cleared funds in cash. ( avail. for withdraw ) with etrade. I sold it and bought back. Then sold it again same day, but I was using funds still in my cash ( avail ) for withdrawal.
Posted by KP on :
From iHub:
Review again:
JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The BigHub.com, Inc. (OTC Pinksheets: BHUB) announced today that the prior stock transfer agent, Select American Transfer Company, has informed the Company that there are currently 1,580,847,798 shares issued. The shares issued are 1,530,847,798 more than the legal authorized shares of the Company and 1,559,162,277 more shares than issued per the Company records.
The Company believes that the excess shares have been issued as unregistered shares, as defined by the Securities and Exchange Act, of a Delaware corporation unaffiliated with the Company. Select American Transfer has provided the Company with a list of all issuances of unregistered shares which commenced on or about September 8, 2005. The Company intends to engage legal counsel in Florida and Toronto to have these shares cancelled and to pursue the parties issued shares from September 8, 2005 through October 25, 2006. The Company will be pursuing damages in excess of $6,600,000.
The Company intends to immediately notify www.pinksheets.com as to the share structure of the Company and provide them with an information statement required under Section 15 ( c) 2-11. We believe the information will be available within 24 hours of submission.
The Company previously announced that it has engaged Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer, Inc. to handle its authorized stock transfers.
The BigHub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB - News) will continue to review potential business ventures or acquisitions during this process.
BHUB worth 0.13
$6,600,000 being sought in lawsuit with 50 mil A/S confirmed per pinksheets.com and per company!
So 6,600,000 / 50,000,000 shares = .13 / share!!!!
Even if they get half of the settlement they are seeking that still makes the price/share .06-.07! We are currently at... .004!!! WOOHOOOOO get in early and make a ton.. this is easy math people. Going higher.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by KP: From iHub:
Review again:
JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The BigHub.com, Inc. (OTC Pinksheets: BHUB) announced today that the prior stock transfer agent, Select American Transfer Company, has informed the Company that there are currently 1,580,847,798 shares issued. The shares issued are 1,530,847,798 more than the legal authorized shares of the Company and 1,559,162,277 more shares than issued per the Company records.
The Company believes that the excess shares have been issued as unregistered shares, as defined by the Securities and Exchange Act, of a Delaware corporation unaffiliated with the Company. Select American Transfer has provided the Company with a list of all issuances of unregistered shares which commenced on or about September 8, 2005. The Company intends to engage legal counsel in Florida and Toronto to have these shares cancelled and to pursue the parties issued shares from September 8, 2005 through October 25, 2006. The Company will be pursuing damages in excess of $6,600,000.
The Company intends to immediately notify www.pinksheets.com as to the share structure of the Company and provide them with an information statement required under Section 15 ( c) 2-11. We believe the information will be available within 24 hours of submission.
The Company previously announced that it has engaged Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer, Inc. to handle its authorized stock transfers.
The BigHub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB - News) will continue to review potential business ventures or acquisitions during this process.
BHUB worth 0.13
$6,600,000 being sought in lawsuit with 50 mil A/S confirmed per pinksheets.com and per company!
So 6,600,000 / 50,000,000 shares = .13 / share!!!!
Even if they get half of the settlement they are seeking that still makes the price/share .06-.07! We are currently at... .004!!! WOOHOOOOO get in early and make a ton.. this is easy math people. Going higher.
Yep, but how long to get through the court system is the big thing....
Posted by thesource on :
But who's going to pay out ? Who's going to be found liable and actually have to deal with it ?
Posted by cottonjim on :
This is a serious amount of attention here, wow.
BHUB -- BigHub.com, Inc. (THE) Com ($0.001)
COMPANY NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES FROM OTHER SOURCES:
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Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: But who's going to pay out ? Who's going to be found liable and actually have to deal with it ?
presumably, the TA knows who brought them the unreg shares...
Posted by SherriT on :
Don't laugh at the analogy, but: "You can't get blood out of a turnip"
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Check out the chart for POTIBB. I am starting to like acronyms after CottonJim pointed out how usefull they are. LMAO TMAN...
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Don't laugh at the analogy, but: "You can't get blood out of a turnip"
Thats what I'm thinking as well .
Posted by kermit42 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: kermit...You can sell tomorrow what you bought today...and it isn't a day trade...AND then wait for a dip and get back in the next day...
quote:Originally posted by kermit42:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: YUK!..i played this right this morning...flipped it...and then had to leave...came back and what was once green was now this ugly shade of RED! YUK! I am hopin' it will move back up...maybe? pretty please!?!
A stock like this makes me furious with the "3 day" rule. I flipped once today, and not even all that well, and that's it. I'm stuck until Friday.
I can sell but, no matter what, I can't buy back in again. Bastage SEC!!!
Thanks 10, but I'm not comfortable selling at least until Thursday afternoon because a lot can change between tomorrow and Friday morning. Absent news, I expect another down day tomorrow, but then...who knows?
I'll sit tight and hope we move up tomorrow.
WHO'S WITH ME?
Posted by FurrySound on :
BHUB -- BigHub.com, Inc. (THE) Com ($0.001) Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.
Address: 1820 NE Jensen Beach Blvd. Box 634 Jensen Beach, FL 34957 USA
Phone: 267-350-9443
Business Description: The BigHub.com, Inc. is a development stage company exploring business opportunities and / or acquisitions.
Primary State of Incorporation: Florida
Country of Incorporation: USA Year of Incorporation 1995
Estimated Market Cap: 75,899 as of 2007-04-10 (based on Outstanding Shares as of 2007-04-10) Authorized Shares: 50,000,000 as of 2007-04-10 Number of Shareholders of Record: 25 as of 2007-04-10
Current Capital Change: shs decreased by 1 for 20 split Ex-Date: Record Date: Pay Date: 1998-08-10
Dividends:
Posted by kermit42 on :
Outstanding Shares: 21,685,521 as of 2007-04-10
Estimated Market Cap: 75,899 as of 2007-04-10 (based on Outstanding Shares as of 2007-04-10) Authorized Shares: 50,000,000 as of 2007-04-10 Number of Shareholders of Record: 25 as of 2007-04-10
YIKES!!
Posted by T e x on :
let us note:
The O/S is not yet reported as we are typically accustomed...this figure is derived from today's PR. Not a bad thing, but still it's not like one can go to finance.yahoo or bloomberg and see the OS...fwiw
Posted by FurrySound on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: let us note:
The O/S is not yet reported as we are typically accustomed...this figure is derived from today's PR. Not a bad thing, but still it's not like one can go to finance.yahoo or bloomberg and see the OS...fwiw
by golly, you're right--they've got shares = float, 21.686 m... good post...thanks
Posted by FurrySound on :
pinksheets won't update the share info unless they get positive proof from the company, they won't use a numbers in a PR to figure it out. But as we know, they aren't always up to date.. some show numbers from years ago. But seeing it on financials websites sure brings some exposure and pain to the illegal sellers.
Posted by T e x on :
don't know about "proof," but they updated, too... after all, the TA is working with what's known from the "other" TA...
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
LMAO...
Number of Shareholders of Record: 25 as of 2007-04-10
SURE
Posted by FurrySound on :
tex, that was my post earlier up, from pinksheets, with the updated info, to which you commented about bloomberg etc... i think u need sleep.. i think i do also.. gn LOL
Posted by FurrySound on :
stocktrader... imo, it is correct. if you take away all the illegally issued shares and those shareholders, likely there are only 25 'real' shareholders.
no, I didn't read far enough...was responding to kermit, having been in a discussion about "doing the math" from the PR...
ya, sleep good, lol
Posted by Lauralai on :
T e x, Your mailbox is full.
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by kermit42: Outstanding Shares: 21,685,521 as of 2007-04-10
Estimated Market Cap: 75,899 as of 2007-04-10 (based on Outstanding Shares as of 2007-04-10) Authorized Shares: 50,000,000 as of 2007-04-10 Number of Shareholders of Record: 25 as of 2007-04-10
YIKES!!
imo that just screams for attention from the sec. Scotturd still has no restrictions.
Posted by Wit on :
Select American Transfer Co.: Select American Transfer Co. Fires Back
Apr 11, 2007 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Select American Transfer Co. wishes to respond to the Press Release issued by The BigHub.com, Inc. (Other OTC: BHUB.PK) on April 10, 2007.
Select American Transfer Company confirms that it acted as the transfer agent to The BigHub.com Inc. but resigned from this position as transfer agent months ago.
The alleged information provided by Select American Transfer Company to The BigHub.com Inc. was unverified and required further review and verification before making such information public since Select American Transfer Company sent all the books and records to the company months ago when it resigned as transfer agent. The BigHub.com Inc.'s new management was made aware of this fact upon their inquiry for information therefore the view held by Select American Transfer Company is that claims made The BigHub.com Inc's Press Release were misleading and or false .
Select American Transfer Company has notified both www.pinksheets.com and the Depository Trust Corporation (DTC) of its resignation as transfer agent to The BigHub.com Inc.
Nathan Rogers, President stated: " The PR sent out by the management of The BigHUb.com Inc. was misleading and we wanted to set the record straight for the shareholders involved as well as our clients as such misinformation could harm our reputation and it could force us to seek damages from those who maliciously harm our corporate name and image. "
About Select American Transfer Co.
Select American Transfer Co. is a transfer agent licensed under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and regulated by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
Safe Harbor Statement
The preceding includes forward-looking statements which involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties which may cause the company's actual results in future periods to differ materially from forecasted results. Any forward-looking statements above are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially due to a variety of factors, including, without limitation, competition, intellectual property rights, litigation, needs of liquidity, and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's reports filed with the SEC. Investors are cautioned that such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, continued acceptance of the company's products and services, competition, new products and technological changes, as well as any and all "other risks" associated with business.
CONTACT: Nathan Rogers, Select American Transfer Co. Tel: +1 647 722 9581 e-mail: info*selectamericantransfer.com
M2 Communications Ltd disclaims all liability for information provided within M2 PressWIRE. Data supplied by named party/parties. Further information on M2 PressWIRE can be obtained at http://www.presswire.net on the world wide web. Inquiries to info*m2.com.
Posted by T e x on :
yowza...the soup thickens
Posted by BooDog on :
NO DOUBT
might need to look at this a bit closer eh?...
Posted by T e x on April 09, 2007 02:11:
update: this guy *might* be onto something...he says it could affect the OS, but I don't see how on first glance, given the "confirmed" AS...
I don't have time to dig through it, cuz of early morning coming:
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, cum out, cum out all you scientologists! I kant figger if BHUB is mo funnier, or mo skammier..
Ok we alreddy know BHUB iz Yukatan's munny tree b-cuz of the 1999 agreement allowing Yucatan to be issued billions of unregistered shares(thus giving them control of tha cumpany), shown in this 2000 13D, so they need 2 keep tha "gitt shorty" deal goin full speed 2 sell tha sharez. Thatz alreddy been established: http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0000950144%252D00...
Now letz digg deeper to find tha nutz and boltz of this skam. Letz check out this guy, the former principal of BHUB: Frank Denny, Stilden co. same adr as BHUB at 2939 Moss Rock, Suite 100, San Antonio, Texas 78230: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1093192/0001017062-00-000454.txt
Well so now we know Denny got interests in BHUB along with Yukatan and iz down with a group of old skool scientology fraudsters. So letz check out tha latest "stolen corporate id" evidence: It appears to hinge on a John Sparrow "hijacking" the shell, with the delusional belief that it took a year and a half for Yukatan to "figger it out". Well letz see what Sparrow did afta tha so-called "hijacking", he startz 2 run a deal with Advanced Growing Systems, letz look at Advanced Growing Systems address: http://www.agsincorporated.com/ 18201 Von Karman, Suite 550 Irvine, CA 92612
Oh my, why thatz right nexxxxt 2 where Dennyz old skool Scientology scammer Ballah wuz runnin skamz when he wuz workin with BHUB/Denny: http://www.secinfo.com/d11t8j.4f8ad.htm 2575 McCabe Way, Irvine California 92614
We alreddy know due 2 tha fact Yukatan waited until AFTA tha "cyberhand" pump 2 make an appearance, therez a 99% probability THAT deal wuz done with Yukatanz knowledge(so they cudd dump billions of their unregistered shares of tha 1999 agreeement), and NOW here we have the smoking gun that they are innnn DEEEP with a buncha Scientology Pyramid scammerz dumppin HUGGGE tellin every buddy EVERYTHIN but tha outstandin shares, LOL!!
Well, untill 2morrow that iz. Now I know why Yukatan wuzent gunna just milk it at .0008- Pyramid skammaz are like tha Gypsies- they don't wait araound- they take tha munny KWIK! With tha message board plantz showin up, tha skam wuz gittin obvious anyway- only missin tha nutz and tha boltz.
And what kind of nutz gitt uncovered with just an hour of diggin: Scientology pyramid skammaz!!
Lookz like Yukatan takin ALL of L Ron Hunnards advice:
"The governing policy of finance is to MAKE MONEY, MAKE MORE MONEY, MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MONEY
edited: Hey Wit.... time to start the investigation eh? lmao
Posted by PRD on :
SEC could step into this one pretty soon. Dont hold overnight if you play it... IMO
quote:Originally posted by Wit: Select American Transfer Co.: Select American Transfer Co. Fires Back
Apr 11, 2007 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Select American Transfer Co. wishes to respond to the Press Release issued by The BigHub.com, Inc. (Other OTC: BHUB.PK) on April 10, 2007.
Select American Transfer Company confirms that it acted as the transfer agent to The BigHub.com Inc. but resigned from this position as transfer agent months ago.
The alleged information provided by Select American Transfer Company to The BigHub.com Inc. was unverified and required further review and verification before making such information public since Select American Transfer Company sent all the books and records to the company months ago when it resigned as transfer agent. The BigHub.com Inc.'s new management was made aware of this fact upon their inquiry for information therefore the view held by Select American Transfer Company is that claims made The BigHub.com Inc's Press Release were misleading and or false .
Select American Transfer Company has notified both www.pinksheets.com and the Depository Trust Corporation (DTC) of its resignation as transfer agent to The BigHub.com Inc.
Nathan Rogers, President stated: " The PR sent out by the management of The BigHUb.com Inc. was misleading and we wanted to set the record straight for the shareholders involved as well as our clients as such misinformation could harm our reputation and it could force us to seek damages from those who maliciously harm our corporate name and image. "
About Select American Transfer Co.
Select American Transfer Co. is a transfer agent licensed under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and regulated by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
Safe Harbor Statement
The preceding includes forward-looking statements which involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties which may cause the company's actual results in future periods to differ materially from forecasted results. Any forward-looking statements above are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially due to a variety of factors, including, without limitation, competition, intellectual property rights, litigation, needs of liquidity, and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's reports filed with the SEC. Investors are cautioned that such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, continued acceptance of the company's products and services, competition, new products and technological changes, as well as any and all "other risks" associated with business.
CONTACT: Nathan Rogers, Select American Transfer Co. Tel: +1 647 722 9581 e-mail: info*selectamericantransfer.com
M2 Communications Ltd disclaims all liability for information provided within M2 PressWIRE. Data supplied by named party/parties. Further information on M2 PressWIRE can be obtained at http://www.presswire.net on the world wide web. Inquiries to info*m2.com.
Posted by madmoney on :
gap down!! how low will it go.
Posted by T e x on :
hmmm...never seen a PR from a TA before...they don't address any handling of shares, either...simply seem to be carving out a timeframe...hmmmm
first hour s/b interesting...
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Check out the chart for POTIBB. I am starting to like acronyms after CottonJim pointed out how usefull they are. LMAO TMAN...
That would be the chart for "PAIV On The IHUB BHUB Board" for the acronymly challenged Posted by T e x on :
quote:Posted by: BigHub In reply to: quikstir who wrote msg# 28169 Date:4/11/2007 9:15:53 AM Post #of 28210
Press Release answering Select sent out should be on the wires over the next 15 minutes
M2 Presswire is spam, it's not a reputable news wire. They offer a flat rate, unlimited amount of news releases. Only people that use M2 are promoters. That is why that PR did not show up on the BHUB ticker.
Posted by tompom on :
BigHub.com, Inc. Responds to Select American Transfer Company Apr 11, 2007 9:50:00 AM JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ --
The BigHub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB) has received a shareholders list and list of issued shares by Select American Transfer Company ("Select"). The Company has reviewed the press release and would like to note the Company's position as follows:
1. The Company has requested a conversation with Nathan Rogers since March 28, 2007 and has not received a return call. 2. The Company has endeavored since March 28, 2007 to receive a shareholders list and to ascertain certain records. The shareholder's list received from their offices were received at 5:20 pm edst on April 9, 2007. 3. Pinksheets.com notified the Company that Select had resigned the week of March 30, 2007. 4. According to Select, DTC was still sending information to them as of April 5, 2007. 5. According to Select's shareholder activity list, shares were issued to Cede (DTC) as late as March 20, 2007. (Share certificate No. 1277) 6. The Company has been informed that the records have been sent back to the person that gave them to Select. The Company believes this is in direct violation of Rule 17Ad-7 - Record Retention. This rule is part of the "General Rules and Regulations promulgated under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934".
Based on the information received by the Company from Select, over 1.5 billion unregistered shares have been issued to over 30 entities and individuals in Toronto, Canada. Select has also issued over 10,000,000 shares to "John Sparrow", unregistered and free trading. John Sparrow has been identified as the "President" of the entity presented to Select.
"It appears that Select is trying to cover-up misdeeds in the issuance of shares," stated Darrell Peterson, Interim President. "This press release by Select is very curious as the management of Select has blocked the Company from receiving vital information and refuses to have a dialog with the Company concerning their transactions since September 8, 2005 when they issued share certificate 1001 to 'John Sparrow.'" Peterson continued, "The current management and directors of the Company will continue to state the facts as received and to bring full disclosure to the investors and shareholders of the Company as soon as possible."
SOURCE BigHub.com, Inc.
Posted by 10of13 on :
That last PR from the TA didn't show up through my news source...
Posted by PCola77 on :
This is nuts.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Agreed PC...but it is a pink...and nuts is the way their game is played
Posted by beechwood on :
Something doesn't add up. Even with 1.5 billion unauthorized shares this has been trading close to a half billion shares a day for several days. That would've gobbled up all the "unauthorized" shares a coupla days ago. Are there more unauthorized shares than let on or are people just selling off and dumping more back into the market?
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Does anyone know where you can get the monthly share totals from? I saw it this weekend and used it but I am at work and for the life of me cant find it now. I thought it was on the otcbb.com website but cant find it now. TMAN...
Posted by cottonjim on :
This thing has become a flippers dream, buy at .0033 in the A.M. and sell for .0044 20 minutes later. Man I wish I was a flipper (the trader, not the dolphin) Posted by williamjones on :
So much fear and confusion that I think it is gonna bounce around the 003's to .004's till it gets halted. if you are loaded then greta opportunity.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Beech, the original news dropped Thursday near the end of trading. I dont know if the mm's give a crap or not. If the company gets an emergency injunction they will start imo. TMAN...
Posted by BooDog on :
hmmmmmm who to trust......
oh yeah.... no one. this is a trip
Posted by hammond_man on :
pushing BREAK-OUT here to run $$
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Just FYI. checked florida sos. neither bhub (there were 2 listed) are listed on the list of corps. I assume that they must be updating. That is very interesting. TMAN...
Posted by SherriT on :
Come on, break that .0045, you can do it!
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
you sound like the coonass on waterboy sherri. LMAO. TMAN...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: let us note:
The O/S is not yet reported as we are typically accustomed...this figure is derived from today's PR. Not a bad thing, but still it's not like one can go to finance.yahoo or bloomberg and see the OS...fwiw
Tex- the o/s is 20m per Yucatan- Hopefully Darrell will return my call this afternoon- will post what he says.
Posted by cottonjim on :
.0047X.0048, IMO if we get to .005 there is going to be a stall.
Posted by cottonjim on :
this is killing me, I gotta go have a smoke (I realize the irony of which one is killing me so no need to point it out).
Posted by a surfer on :
.0055
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
holy **** did i really miss the boat on this one
Posted by SherriT on :
If we could just get people to stop selling right now, it would go....the bid is getting lit up like the 4th of July
Posted by PCola77 on :
Now jim, no reason they can't BOTH contribute to your eventual demise...
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: this is killing me, I gotta go have a smoke (I realize the irony of which one is killing me so no need to point it out).
Posted by PCola77 on :
By the way, my take on this is that more and more people are holding on to this one. many people have flipped out and are letting free shares ride. So the "float" is drying up and this is moving easier with each surge of demand.
Still, we all know the risk of suspension here, so don't get greedy.
Posted by Jenna on :
I suck. I sold at .0045 to flip. I guess it went up because I sold so there you go guys...your gift from me. Enjoy!
Holy Cow.
Posted by 5times1 on :
yup I sold at .0044 too, trying to flip...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: let us note:
The O/S is not yet reported as we are typically accustomed...this figure is derived from today's PR. Not a bad thing, but still it's not like one can go to finance.yahoo or bloomberg and see the OS...fwiw
Tex- the o/s is 20m per Yucatan- Hopefully Darrell will return my call this afternoon- will post what he says.
ya, we cleared that up in the posts immediately following the one you've copied....
Posted by PCola77 on :
I wouldn't be surprised if it came back down to you guys. This thing is like a yo-yo
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: By the way, my take on this is that more and more people are holding on to this one. many people have flipped out and are letting free shares ride. So the "float" is drying up and this is moving easier with each surge of demand.
Still, we all know the risk of suspension here, so don't get greedy.
Thanks PCola...very true....still hate to see dumping at the bid even if it is flippers....
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Okay, this is what I found out lats couple day's.
1) A Federal Warrant of Arrest for "John Sparrow" a)Looks like false name- FBI looking for him.
2)FBI investigating Select Stock Transfer a)I think that's why they stopped cooperating with BHUB--(taking the 5th?)
3)Also, investigating GRDX,YNTE,ILGY,TCPI,MGLG,KSWJ,EWRX,CBRP,WHKA a)these are related to "John Sparrow"- there are about 12 more I am told-will post when I find
4)BHUB- will post after Darrell returns my call a)waiting to verify some details with him
5)6m shares--check this; they are in CERTIFICATE! a)Held by Investor for over 3yrs
7)Approx. 37 subpeona's issued so far a)should be on-line for verification within next 10 days or so.
That's it so far- I don't think this helps with figuring out when to cut bait- just FYI.
This has been a flipper's dream- hope everyone is making tons of green on this.
Posted by T e x on :
zero,
don't just post "stuff" -- be sure and add your sources, links, etc...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I suck. I sold at .0045 to flip. I guess it went up because I sold so there you go guys...your gift from me. Enjoy!
Holy Cow.
Jenna- plenty more chances to flip, you went for the meat of it- great way to get consistent profit's.
Posted by williamjones on :
10 to 1 says this comes back down to the .003's and you get a chance to do it all again. lol
Posted by kermit42 on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: I wouldn't be surprised if it came back down to you guys. This thing is like a yo-yo
Agreed. Be patient. The recent trend has been up in the mornings and sideways/down the rest of the day.
I'm not making any promises, but if you think this is over for you just because you refuse to chase, hang tight. I'd say better than 50/50 your flip will work.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: zero,
don't just post "stuff" -- be sure and add your sources, links, etc...
Tex-- dude...my sources?- YOU can't access. When you CAN access the info- I will post the links. This "stuff" is from alot of leg work- it's just "stuff" I have found, and decided to share- dismiss it completely- or get off your arse and DD yourself.
I'm 36, haven't had to work since 31. I think I must be doing something right. Or maybe I'm just Lucky? LOL
Posted by PCola77 on :
Before this gets worse, Zero, Tex is not at all the type to rely on others info. He DDs more than most here. His point was more from the perspective of a moderator of this board, and meant to deter people from posting "info" that's nothing more than BS. IMO, he's not dismissing anything of yours, just pointing out to other, less experienced posters to take anythign without a source with some skepticism.
Assuming you've been trading as long as you say, you already know that believing someone from a board liek this is a recipe for disaster 99% of the time. If you're in the other 1%, then great, but you have to understand the skepticism.
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: zero,
don't just post "stuff" -- be sure and add your sources, links, etc...
Tex-- dude...my sources?- YOU can't access. When you CAN access the info- I will post the links. This "stuff" is from alot of leg work- it's just "stuff" I have found, and decided to share- dismiss it completely- or get off your arse and DD yourself.
I'm 36, haven't had to work since 31. I think I must be doing something right. Or maybe I'm just Lucky? LOL
Posted by KP on :
I am holding for the interview tomorrow.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: zero,
don't just post "stuff" -- be sure and add your sources, links, etc...
Tex-- dude...my sources?- YOU can't access. When you CAN access the info- I will post the links. This "stuff" is from alot of leg work- it's just "stuff" I have found, and decided to share- dismiss it completely- or get off your arse and DD yourself.
I'm 36, haven't had to work since 31. I think I must be doing something right. Or maybe I'm just Lucky? LOL
have no idea what you're getting at it...but please don't post "I heard from a birdy"-type rumors or unsubstantiated info...first, we as a board expect good DD--which includes sources; second, your posts in particular tend to be confusing...
just a hedzup, for now Posted by ZeroCool on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PCola77: [QB] Before this gets worse, Zero, Tex is not at all the type to rely on others info. He DDs more than most here. His point was more from the perspective of a moderator of this board, and meant to deter people from posting "info" that's nothing more than BS. IMO, he's not dismissing anything of yours, just pointing out to other, less experienced posters to take anythign without a source with some skepticism.
Assuming you've been trading as long as you say, you already know that believing someone from a board liek this is a recipe for disaster 99% of the time. If you're in the other 1%, then great, but you have to understand the skepticism.
Thanks P-- But, I have never been on any other board other than this one. NEWBIE to Allstocks- not to stocks. See your point. But I say dismiss it- b'cause I'm not trying to BS, or convince anybody of it's truth. Just FYI. When the info is put into public record- I will post the links. I'm just getting the info ahead of thier Data-entry.
The FBI is a different story though- won't be available until investigation is complete, and it goes to Fed. Prosecuters's.
I appreciate you steppin' in Pcola- I couldn't figure out the friction with Tex. I guess we have "skeptism" in common.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Phew...wipes sweat from brow... Thanks PC...that was going to blow...
Zero..Tex..is a good guy...and he will always challenge what posters say...and for that we are thankful...! Thanks for the info that you did post..and since you have no links...maybe just post that this is all info that you gathered on your own...or simply put "IMO"... all info is appreciated!
Posted by cottonjim on :
FWIW I just got off the phone with a friend who is employed by a certain Gov. agency. He did confirm items 1 and 2 on Zero's list for me. No more facts available that he could say. I did ask why his agency was involved and not just the SEC, "there were federal crimes comitted." From there it was small talk, his sisters getting married, discussed what lake we are taking our annual fishing trip to this year etc...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: zero,
don't just post "stuff" -- be sure and add your sources, links, etc...
Tex-- dude...my sources?- YOU can't access. When you CAN access the info- I will post the links. This "stuff" is from alot of leg work- it's just "stuff" I have found, and decided to share- dismiss it completely- or get off your arse and DD yourself.
I'm 36, haven't had to work since 31. I think I must be doing something right. Or maybe I'm just Lucky? LOL
have no idea what you're getting at it...but please don't post "I heard from a birdy"-type rumors or unsubstantiated info...first, we as a board expect good DD--which includes sources; second, your posts in particular tend to be confusing...
just a hedzup, for now
Confusing? Sorry. PM me with any clarifications you need.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Phew...wipes sweat from brow... Thanks PC...that was going to blow...
Zero..Tex..is a good guy...and he will always challenge what posters say...and for that we are thankful...! Thanks for the info that you did post..and since you have no links...maybe just post that this is all info that you gathered on your own...or simply put "IMO"... all info is appreciated!
Good, I repect that. "CHALLENGE EVERYTHING", good motto to live. Still learning board etiquete, thanks dude.
Posted by KP on :
Can I get another round for all of my friends....
Posted by T e x on :
Zero,
The main point for now--during trading--is this is an unusual play for most/many traders, and the information stream is almost as volatile as the trading... what traders need now is the best documented DD that can be provided, or well reasoned surmises... hope that makes sense.
Be happy to visit later, after hours...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: FWIW I just got off the phone with a friend who is employed by a certain Gov. agency. He did confirm items 1 and 2 on Zero's list for me. No more facts available that he could say. I did ask why his agency was involved and not just the SEC, "there were federal crimes comitted." From there it was small talk, his sisters getting married, discussed what lake we are taking our annual fishing trip to this year etc...
OK, good to know...
something to follow up on...
Posted by PCola77 on :
Man, I feel liike a big loser. I don't know anyone in the FBI or SEC or any of those cool places.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Zero,
The main point for now--during trading--is this is an unusual play for most/many traders, and the information stream is almost as volatile as the trading... what traders need now is the best documented DD that can be provided, or well reasoned surmises... hope that makes sense.
Be happy to visit later, after hours...
Gotcha!! I thought there were only 20 people on this thread- wasn't considering past the user's who post. Golf this afternoon(if it doesn't rain), I usually check post's 9p.m. EST, talk to ya then
Posted by cottonjim on :
I have two friends in the FBI. One came down last year to our annual town celebration street dance. I borrowed his badge and I.D. and went around to all the girls and flipped it open, said "Fedral Boobie inspector, I'm gonna have to check those out." I got slapped a few times but it was worth it Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Man, I feel liike a big loser. I don't know anyone in the FBI or SEC or any of those cool places.
P?... but you do! You know someone, who knows someone, who knows someone, whos sister's uncle's daughter's aunt's daughter is married to.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Oh yeah, I forgot about that guy. thanks!
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Man, I feel liike a big loser. I don't know anyone in the FBI or SEC or any of those cool places.
P?... but you do! You know someone, who knows someone, who knows someone, whos sister's uncle's daughter's aunt's daughter is married to.
Posted by BooDog on :
IHUB's BHUB IBOX board has a lot of the info consolidated to go from.
Hey 10 of 13.... Whasss up dude!!!
Posted by T e x on :
hedzup:
quote:Posted by: kurupt2000 In reply to: None Date:4/11/2007 11:19:29 AM Post #of 29051
Anyone here in BHUB through Tradefreedom in Canada or have a broker who clears through Penson? I have been trying to place trades online on BHUB through tradefreedom and they are not allowing anything to go through. They have indicated (over the phone) that Penson has placed a strict no-trade order on the stock. Can anyone confirm this information?
.0038? Darn daytraders! BAAAAANK$
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: hedzup:
quote:Posted by: kurupt2000 In reply to: None Date:4/11/2007 11:19:29 AM Post #of 29051
Anyone here in BHUB through Tradefreedom in Canada or have a broker who clears through Penson? I have been trying to place trades online on BHUB through tradefreedom and they are not allowing anything to go through. They have indicated (over the phone) that Penson has placed a strict no-trade order on the stock. Can anyone confirm this information?
Apparently, restrictions are affecting more Canadian brokers... one fella posted that his broker is restricting for now, but if nothing is proven, it will be lifted...
lol, not saying to panic, just be alert...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog:
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: that started some panic Tex. we'll see what happens next. I'll check scottrade.
no restrictions. online buys still permitted.
you would think they would be the first one to restrict eh? backwards. lol
ya, scottie usually leads the pack...
out for a bit...
later
Posted by SherriT on :
Someone wanted a dip for day-trading Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Jim, I am gonna call your wife. lol. TMAN...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Someone wanted a dip for day-trading
Guilty.
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Jim, I am gonna call your wife. lol. TMAN...
She knew and she was not very happy but what was she going to do?? I checked her out also.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Up trend continues, just watch overbought indicator RSI 76.04 GL
Posted by chevon2020 on :
Goodness gracious, as soon as I buy this at .0038 it starts to plumet!
Posted by tompom on :
be careful here now imo...
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: I suck. I sold at .0045 to flip. I guess it went up because I sold so there you go guys...your gift from me. Enjoy!
Holy Cow.
You did fine Jenna , take your money and wait for the drop like right now !!
Posted by SherriT on :
Gang, I tried to buy more at .003 through ChoiceTrade and it would not accept it...kicked it back.
Play safe.
Posted by T e x on :
perhaps the restrictions are coming from brokerages involved in issuing/initial trading of the unreg shares...
quote:Posted by: fringe_remnant In reply to: None Date:4/11/2007 12:23:44 PM Post #of 29312
Scotia McLeod, One of Canada'a Largest Brokerages
... has no problem buying or selling this security today, and has received no information that would cause them to change their position in regards to that.
Any houses retricting trading are doing so in order to protect their own interests.
fringe
that seems to be da hub's "take" on it...
Posted by cottonjim on :
scottrade still taking orders, my buy sailed right through. Of course it dropped right after but i'm used to that.
Posted by SherriT on :
I dumped...again....and it should go back up. Good luck all!
(Edit: I have never had a problem with ChoiceTrade until now....)
Posted by PCola77 on :
Hmm, I just put a buy order in through Choicetrade and it was accepted. Sherri, did it give you a reason? Like did you put in for more $ than you had by accident or anything?
Posted by thesource on :
I just got in at .003 through BofA . Now lets see a run back up to .005 so I can get out .
Posted by PCola77 on :
Sherri, my order just went through. Was thinking maybe it would bounce back after the initial acceptance, but maybe you should try again, even just a test to buy at like .0001 and then cancel it if you want.
Posted by thesource on :
Thats great , I buy in and now there's rumor of a Global lock down , what ever the hell that is .
Posted by clintonj on :
crashing on little volume
Posted by T e x on :
one guy reported DTC halt, then this:
quote:Posted by: athlonmank8 In reply to: netooi who wrote msg# 29559 Date:4/11/2007 12:49:36 PM Post #of 29583
***The Depository Trust Company has declared a global halt on all trade processing for the symbol BHUB. Orders will be rejected on this symbol until we receive further notice from the DTCC ***
I don't get it. If people are saying it's on total lockdown, how can everyone be selling?
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Just bought more through TDA. Bring her on up!!! TMAN...
Posted by thesource on :
I don't know but its dropping like a dress on prom night .
Posted by chevon2020 on :
I tried to sell on choicetrade and it wont go through. Is anyone else having this problem?
Posted by cottonjim on :
whatever the hell is going on, I'm gonna ride it out and see where it goes. Might cost me alot of money but it already has so, owell.
Posted by Lockman on :
Sure looks like it's trading right now.
Posted by thesource on :
I'm only in it for a few hundred so I'll stay pat right now . I wish I had a few more hundred to buy some in the .0018's .
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...I am down on this and all i can do is laugh!
Posted by tompom on :
i would bet the TA contacted the DTC
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: I don't get it. If people are saying it's on total lockdown, how can everyone be selling?
good point... seems to have a bounce at .002
Posted by Chris4205 on :
Starting to rebound a little?
Posted by PCola77 on :
And how can so many people now claim that they got in for the bounce?
I hate people sometimes.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: I don't get it. If people are saying it's on total lockdown, how can everyone be selling?
good point... seems to have a bounce at .002
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Posted by: ditch72 In reply to: 500_and_Long who wrote msg# 29381 Date:4/11/2007 12:37:33 PM Post #of 29737
whoo-hoo! another nice momo play here, I love this stock!
Posted by JimSC on :
Hi, guys. Don't play any stock that hits 10X in one week. 95% of them will drop to the ground in 3 days. Only play stocks at 52-week low.
Posted by thesource on :
I wish I had a few more hundred cleared to buy up the cheapies other morons are selling .
Posted by chevon2020 on :
quote:Originally posted by chevon2020: I tried to sell on choicetrade and it wont go through. Is anyone else having this problem?
Never mind I had an open order already, lol Sorry if anyone was paying attention. It doesnt seem to be restricted on choicetrade.
Posted by thesource on :
Run to the Sun baby ..........
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Run to the Sun baby ..........
to da sun....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LMAO...I am down on this and all i can do is laugh!
lol...well, if you're not gonna flip every three of four minutes...what else can you do?
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Run to the Sun baby ..........
to da sun....
Oh ya , to da sun .
Posted by 5times1 on :
this is plain crazy!!
Posted by hammond_man on :
catch these profits, we should easily see .0047 on this bounce!!
Posted by thesource on :
All I need is .0045 and I'm out .......
TO DA SUN !!!
Posted by thesource on :
Another shake down happening ....
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: I don't get it. If people are saying it's on total lockdown, how can everyone be selling?
Pcola-- it's look's like that may mean-Just Penson- global "lock-down"- trades are going thruough- maybe it hasn't hit yet.
Posted by a surfer on :
looks like teens coming again...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 5times1: this is plain crazy!!
sure... you don't think they're gonna give it away, eh? On **********'s (delayed) "last ten trades" at the .0018 level, four were for trades of $9... true, there was one for $1,800, but who's hitting bid with 5k shares?
Posted by PCola77 on :
I bought and sold through Choicetrade, which is Penson, with no problem. Oh well...
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: I don't get it. If people are saying it's on total lockdown, how can everyone be selling?
Pcola-- it's look's like that may mean-Just Penson- global "lock-down"- trades are going thruough- maybe it hasn't hit yet.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: looks like teens coming again...
IMO, sell-off/a little shorting?
Posted by T e x on :
ok, here's an asst. mod apparently confirming news via DTC:
quote:Posted by: Charlatan In reply to: A deleted message Date:4/11/2007 1:06:18 PM Post #of 30026
Nobody started anything the DTC alert is legit, some brokers have issued the alert to it's clients thru Penson.
here we go again, if we break .0031 we could easily see .0047 and up on this bounce today!!
Posted by thesource on :
This is when I need a margin account ..... Oh well I keep saying it but have not made the effort so far Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
COOOOOOMMMMMMEEEE OOOOONNNNNNN!!!!!
Posted by T e x on :
seems like the Penson angle is Penson Canada...but starting to see some say Ameritrade has stopped allowing buys...
Posted by PCola77 on :
yeah tex, saw that too. Hope everyone did well on this. I took pretty much everything off the tabel until this gets figured out. I had set a sell point and it hit. Would have liked to have seen it play out more, but you can't be upset with a solid profit.
Posted by T e x on :
more than 2,100 trades today...
Posted by SherriT on :
Hi guys - back from lunch....I expected it to be back up since I dumped. Hope everyone isn't hurt too badly by this!
Posted by ZeroCool on :
TDAmer..."opening transactions for this sec. is not accepted"
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
I got some just in time I guess. That was only 45 minutes ago. Probably will continue to crash and burn. lol. TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: yeah tex, saw that too. Hope everyone did well on this. I took pretty much everything off the tabel until this gets figured out. I had set a sell point and it hit. Would have liked to have seen it play out more, but you can't be upset with a solid profit.
attaboy...
ya, looks like it will take a breather while the smoke clears... time for a sammich!
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
My other thought is... if they restrict the buying and only allow selling, wouldnt that trigger an interesting short sell issue in which bagholders err I mean share holders like me hold until they hit their selling point? TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: My other thought is... if they restrict the buying and only allow selling, wouldnt that trigger an interesting short sell issue in which bagholders err I mean share holders like me hold until they hit their selling point? TMAN...
saw one post saying he can't buy (Ameritrade) but he's happy enough cuz former, similar plays didn't really take until *after* A-trade stopped allowing buys...fwiw
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: My other thought is... if they restrict the buying and only allow selling, wouldnt that trigger an interesting short sell issue in which bagholders err I mean share holders like me hold until they hit their selling point? TMAN...
Put in a 30k sell *$1.LOL!
Posted by williamjones on :
My guess is that from hereonout it's mostly day traders scalping it up and down from the teens to the .002's till the official halt.
Party is over - "if it sounds to good to be true..." you know the rest.
Posted by cottonjim on :
uuh oohhh, BLOOD IN THE WATER, lmao
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: uuh oohhh, BLOOD IN THE WATER, lmao
I can smell it- just got off the phone with TDa--buy's no, sells yes, propietary info,blah,blah, SEC didn't place restriction, covering "any liability they have"
Posted by thesource on :
Seems like its running out of steam like yesterday . Hopefully we get an EOD run but there's no telling at this point if we even make it to the EOD .
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Yall are funny. everyone had high hopes this morning. .0024. TMAN...
Posted by thesource on :
That was this morning . Now everyone is scared to death and I'm cash broke so I couldn't buy anymore even if wanted to .
Posted by 10of13 on :
OK...Help me out here? Why do some think the SEC is going to halt? suspend? Or is it just the wonderful Brokers screwing with the buys and sells? you know so that they can cover their AZZ?
Posted by williamjones on :
You shoulda read the IHUB board from last weekend - they were all picking out the color of their new Ferraris and wondering which beach house they were gonna build. The pro's must be laughing at all this.
Posted by retiredat49 on :
Looks like the latter to me 10...
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: OK...Help me out here? Why do some think the SEC is going to halt? suspend? Or is it just the wonderful Brokers screwing with the buys and sells? you know so that they can cover their AZZ?
Posted by thesource on :
But how can they cover their butts with so many unauthorized shares being traded ? There is not enough shares to cover it reguardless of the price , right ?
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: OK...Help me out here? Why do some think the SEC is going to halt? suspend? Or is it just the wonderful Brokers screwing with the buys and sells? you know so that they can cover their AZZ?
I am just worried they may step in because of all of the attention that this is getting and the Federal Laws that have been broken by certain parties. The O/S being way above the A/S is not what worries me. I was in one that had 240 mil. A/S and 370 mil. O/S and the SEC did nothing. I think right now it's the brokers screaming bloody murder. Watch for "no buy's, only sells".
Posted by kermit42 on :
Are we having fun yet?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: OK...Help me out here? Why do some think the SEC is going to halt? suspend? Or is it just the wonderful Brokers screwing with the buys and sells? you know so that they can cover their AZZ?
closest similar situation = BCIT, hijacked shell & unregistered shares: suspended about 2-3 weeks after a DTC notice/pr... started with brokers locking down trades (which I still think s/b illegal, btw), of which Scottie was amnong the first.
of course whichever brokers, broker/deealers that handled the unreg shares are gonna do whatever they can...boxes, mirrors, ask a sister brokerage to restrict here n there... take advantage of panic...lol, whatever they can do.
To me, that's why brokerages should be independent of any broker/dealer...
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: OK...Help me out here? Why do some think the SEC is going to halt? suspend? Or is it just the wonderful Brokers screwing with the buys and sells? you know so that they can cover their AZZ?
I am just worried they may step in because of all of the attention that this is getting and the Federal Laws that have been broken by certain parties. The O/S being way above the A/S is not what worries me. I was in one that had 240 mil. A/S and 370 mil. O/S and the SEC did nothing. I think right now it's the brokers screaming bloody murder. Watch for "no buy's, only sells".
The SEC has stepped in for much less...we have confirmed reports of an FBI investigation and arrest warrant. Personally, I took anything off the table here...risk is much higher than the reward IMHO. $100 is better than grey sheets.
Posted by retiredat49 on :
mm's keep raising the bid with very few trades...
Posted by tompom on :
would be nice if it works out like BCIT did....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: But how can they cover their butts with so many unauthorized shares being traded ? There is not enough shares to cover it reguardless of the price , right ?
sure...nobody really "has" any shares, just a claim on those shares... the unregistered shares are not infinite...buy back that amount, and the "real" shares can be delivered...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Cotton? Was it the company that broke the "law"...? I am confused here...Brokers have been halting/restricting trades on most stocks that are doing a great run...and from what I can see...there ends up no reason for it...but for that broker to cover their own AZZ...because they are high on FTD's and bought sold the stock to their clients...so they allow their clients to 'sell" but not buy...this way they can cut down on their amount of FTD's...period...this is the way that I see it...and i could be WAY off base!
Posted by cottonjim on :
In that case, yes, supposedly it was the company that issued more than the authorized. In that case I think the SEC had every right to step in and didn't. In this case, the BHUB board and managment have, supposedly, done nothing wrong. THe trouble is being caused by outside parties. And yes, I see the FTD and restricition issue the same as you 10.
Posted by thesource on :
1 hour left ......
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: In that case, yes, supposedly it was the company that issued more than the authorized. In that case I think the SEC had every right to step in and didn't. In this case, the BHUB board and managment have, supposedly, done nothing wrong. THe trouble is being caused by outside parties. And yes, I see the FTD and restricition issue the same as you 10.
Cotton- would you agree; FTD's step 1-fraudulent shares step 2?
Posted by thesource on :
Do we break 1 billion shares traded today ?
Posted by cottonjim on :
This ones got all the bells and whistles. FTD's, Fraudulently sold shares above the A/S, couterfeight "ghost" shares by the mm's,= MASSIVE FTD, IMO. Should create the mother of all squeezes. Every share they bought back in todays panic they are going to re-sell in coming day's just adding to their own problem. All My opinion.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: This ones got all the bells and whistles. FTD's, Fraudulently sold shares above the A/S, couterfeight "ghost" shares by the mm's,= MASSIVE FTD, IMO. Should create the mother of all squeezes. Every share they bought back in todays panic they are going to re-sell in coming day's just adding to their own problem. All My opinion.
LOL- I'm ridin' free shares w/ GTC .20.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
THEN THE FLOOR HIT ME IN THE FACE! LOL Posted by Jenna on :
OOOO....that's gonna leave a mark...
Posted by Jenna on :
Oh my - I went to work came back & this looks like a completely different stock. Well, my order went through.....I see I could have gotten in at .0017.....DAMN!
Posted by T e x on :
As of close:
quote:Posted by: Outlawbabe In reply to: zardiw who wrote msg# 31395 Date:4/11/2007 4:27:34 PM Post #of 31490
Edit: Brokers that allow Buys:
ChoiceTrade Scottrade ************** Etrade (Pro) Buys and sells OK Banc of America Trading Direct allowing Fidelity TD Waterhouse Canada buy and sell USAA Brokerage Scotia McLeod ************** clears thru Penson allows buys
Posted by cottonjim on :
According to Scottrade home page there are no restrictions on BHUB. Tommorow is going to be an interesting day. Not that today wasn't interesting enough. I am slightly pissed that I could have sold at a loss on the way down, doubled up near the bottom and been green at the close. I need to start thinking about these things before the fact, not after.
Posted by T e x on :
true dat, cj...
- - - - - - -
link for checking DTCC notices re a given document number ("B#" for gawd only knows the reason) or CUSIP number; this CUSIP is 089865109:
quote:Originally posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S: LOTS goin on with this stock, heres what IHUB came up with this weekend
ok, I just updated the ibox (below the charts) with the following information, starting the summarization of the weekend's DD:
What occured to BHUB, In detail(a continuing work in progress):
The following are the Florida Secretary of State documents for the corporation created on July 8, 2005 by John Sparrow and Jason Wong using the name “The Bighub.com, Inc.” (FEI Number -None) http://tinyurl.com/2p43bn
Registered Agent: Wong, Jason 10151 University Blvd Suite 120 Orlando FL 32817 416-417-4779
Officer/Director Detail Sparrow, John 10151 University Blvd Suite 120 Orlando FL 32817 212-561-0762
Sparrow/Wong’s scheme was to legally create a new corporate entity, using the exact name as the original and legitimate “The Bighub.com, Inc.” (FEI Number - 650580634) http://tinyurl.com/2aac3v which was inactive since 2000, so they could hijack the publicly traded vehicle, BHUB CUSIP#089865109.
It seems that Sparrow/Wong began an account with Select American Transfer in October 2005, shortly after creating this doppelganger “The Bighub.com, Inc.” corporation in July, 2005 and sending SAT the corporate documents as proof of their control of BHUB. http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=18372341
Select Amercian Transfer Company 118 Finch Ave. West Suite 35 Toronto, Ontario, M2N 7G2 Tel. (647) 722-9581 http://www.selectamericantransfer.com info*selectamericantransfer.com
The BHUB stock was basically dormant until June 2006 when it started trading with some irregularly high volume. It then traded mildly, bouncing around in the triple zeros until March 8, 2007, when it was discovered there was a link to BHUB as a potential reverse merger candidate on the Cyberhand Robotics website, which was noticed by several investors. http://www.cyberhandrobotics.com/stockquote.html
Since that March 8 date BHUB has traded billions of fraudulent shares, printed by Sparrow/Wong/Select American Transfer.
In the meantime, Yucatan Holding Company http://tinyurl.com/27d9cp the remaining legitimate controlling interest holder in “The Bighub.com, Inc.”, and the BHUB security, CUSIP#089865109 became aware of the extreme trading volume and began to investigate the situation.
Yucatan subsequently put out a press release on March 28, 2007 notifying the market of their recognition of the trading irregularity, and to dispel the rumors of the Cyberhand Robotics reverse merger. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070328/clw200.html?.v=7
Registered Agent Dorrough, Jayme 1836 NE River CT Jensen Beach FL 34957
Officer/Director Detail Dorrough, Jayme 1836 NE River CT Jensen Beach FL 34957
As it stands now, Yucatan Holding Company is investigating the situation. According to conversations with Darrell Peterson, Yucatan’s consultant/public contact, Yucatan is currently undertaking the following actions:
1. Put out the 3/28/2007 press release informing the market of their awareness of the situation, that they are vigorously investigating, that they disavow any merger talks with Cyberhand Robotics, and that they are currently reviewing potential business ventures unrelated to current rumors that have surfaced. 2. Requested the DTC sheets/NOBO lists. 3. Contacted Pinksheets.com about correcting their corporate profile information, including the share structure. 4. Are trying to conduct the investigation and subsequent litigation without the involvement of the SEC. 5. Will continue to update the market as developments occur.
Some collected information of the bad actors in this case:
“John Sparrow” (it is not known if this is a real person or a fake name) and his 212-561-0762 phone number which seems to permeate many suspicious companies.
LMAO my DD just landed me with what BIG already posted. Oh - and is also on IHUB IBOX.
It is interestingly curious why when you click on bighub.com it shows you advanced growing systems inc. sure stinks in here eh? Jmo - they cried wolf when they were the ones hunting lil' red ridin' hood.
MAILING ADDRESS 10151 UNIVERSITY BLVD SUITE 120 ORLANDO FL 32817
Document Number P05000096498 FEI Number NONE Date Filed 07/08/2005 State FL Status INACTIVE Effective Date NONE Last Event ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT Event Date Filed 09/15/2006 Event Effective Date NONE
Document Images Listed below are the images available for this filing.
03/26/2007 -- Reg. Agent Resignation 03/03/2006 -- Amendment and Name Change 07/08/2005 -- Domestic Profit
THIS IS NOT OFFICIAL RECORD;
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
DUH!!!!!!!!!!! I said earlier that I had checked the florida sos site and couldnt find either bhub. I guess if I would have put in the name instead of the stock symbol it would show pretty as you please. I am such a dumba$$ sometimes. TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
for instance this document has a B#, referencing said CUSIP:
quote:The Depository Trust Company IMPORTANT B#: 1376 - 07 DATE: April 11, 2007 TO: All Participants, Depository Facilities and Pledgee Banks CATEGORY: Operations FROM: Michael Tulaney, Vice President ATTENTION: Managing Partners, Officers and Cashiers SUBJECT: Special Alert Regarding BigHub.com Please be advised that effective April 11, 2007 DTC has suspended all services, except Custody services, for the below referenced issue. CUSIP SECURITY NAME 089865109 BigHub.com Please see the attached press release providing notice that there are in excess of 1.5 billion unregistered shares and the company intends to have these shares cancelled. DTC participants are strongly urged to take whatever precautions are necessary to protect themselves and their customers in light of this information and to notify correspondent firms as well as other potentially affected parties. Questions regarding this notice should be directed to the company or DTC’s Michael Ames at (212) 855- 4535. The BigHub.com, Inc. Receives Information from Select American Transfer Company Tuesday April 10, 8:30 am ET JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The BigHub.com, Inc. (OTC Pinksheets: BHUB) announced today that the prior stock transfer agent, Select American Transfer Company, has informed the Company that there are currently 1,580,847,798 shares issued. The shares issued are 1,530,847,798 more than the legal authorized shares of the Company and 1,559,162,277 more shares than issued per the Company records. The Company believes that the excess shares have been issued as unregistered shares, as defined by the Securities and Exchange Act, of a Delaware corporation unaffiliated with the Company. Select American Transfer has provided the Company with a list of all issuances of unregistered shares which commenced on or about September 8, 2005. The Company intends to engage legal counsel in Florida and Toronto to have these shares cancelled and to pursue the parties issued shares from September 8, 2005 through October 25, 2006. The Company will be pursuing damages in excess of $6,600,000. The Company intends to immediately notify www.pinksheets.com as to the share structure of the Company and provide them with an information statement required under Section 15 (c) 2-11. We believe the information will be available within 24 hours of submission. The Company previously announced that it has engaged Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer, Inc. to handle its authorized stock transfers. The BigHub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB - News) will continue to review potential business ventures or acquisitions during this process. Source: The BigHub.com, Inc.
apparently, what happened is DTCC sent this notice to members, and at least one reissued too its various branches as an internal "global halt."
Or, if you prefer conspiracy theory, the idea was to leak it into the trading community... Posted by BooDog on :
LMAO TMAN
That's why I like these Pinks Tex - get to play detective. lol.
Certainly learned a lot about these types of plays.
edited (as if i don't ever edit after a post): There could be a John Sparrow from the original bighub.com that they took the name from. who knows.
Posted by T e x on :
here's the one for BCIT, from '05:
quote:The Depository Trust Company IMPORTANT B#: 8418 DATE: August 16, 2005 TO: All Participants, Depository Facilities, and Pledgee Banks CATEGORY: Operations FROM: Michael Tulaney, Vice President ATTENTION: Managing Partners, Officers, and Cashiers SUBJECT: Special Alert Regarding Bancorp International Group, Inc. Be advised that effective August 11, 2005, DTC has suspended all services, except Custody services, for the below referenced issue. CUSIP SECURITY NAME 05968X106 Bancorp International Group Inc. Please see the attached press releases from the company providing notice, among other things, that “individuals and corporate entities involved with the illegal takeover of the company printed invalid share certificates”. DTC participants are, therefore, strongly urged to take whatever precautions are necessary in order to protect themselves and their customers in light of this continuing problem and to notify correspondent firms and other parties that may be affected by this problem. Questions regarding this notice should be directed to the company, or DTC’s Nick Cerchio at (212) 855- 5006.
Bancorp International Group Inc. Announces Initial Interim Conclusions of Ongoing Investigation PrimeZone via COMTEX Aug 1, 2005 5:53:18 PM NEW YORK, Aug 1, 2005 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- Let it be known that as a result of the BCIT announcement at 10:30 a.m. on 6/13/2005 the company hereby announces the initial interim conclusions of an ongoing investigation. The company has been the victim of corporate identity fraud (click on the URL below). On 4/21/05 via fraudulent documents filed by a "Louis Lesser" with the Nevada Secretary of State, there was an illegal attempt to take over BCIT by Carter Care Inc. by way of a purported reverse merger (5/12/2005). This occurred without the knowledge and consent of the BCIT shareholders and board. Prior to BCIT being alerted of the fraud, there was no contact with or knowledge of Carter Care Inc. by BCIT and its board. Carter Care was subsequently contacted, and a verbal agreement was reached for a retraction in the form of a wire announcement by Carter Care. However, an announcement was illegally made under the BCIT banner and referred to a reverse merger that had never legally occurred. https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx ?CorpID=243077 Let it be known that those individuals and corporate entities involved with the illegal takeover of the company printed invalid share certificates with the legend Bancorp International Group Inc. These certificates were signed by Richard Carter of Carter Care, and hundreds of millions of shares have since been printed. These shares are apparently being illegally sold by market maker Sterne, Agee & Leach, Inc. (SACM) http://sterneagee.com, trading office 980 North Federal Highway, Suite 108, Boca Raton, Fl 33432; tel (800) 930 3536. The Birmingham, Alabama office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation has been initially contacted in this regard. Let it be known that these shares have no value and do not constitute any of the legal equity of BCIT. The official printed and issued shares of BCIT do not exceed 4,890,000 shares which bear the legend March Indy, signed by Thomas Megas. The investigation is ongoing, and state and federal regulators have been made aware of the problem. Attempts to agree to compensation of $2,000,000 for damages have foundered on the issue of criminal liability. The company accepted $50,000 as a partial paym ent to cover initial investigation expenses and as part of an overall settlement for damages. BCIT has not signed nor entered into any agreement relating to any gold or diamond mining venture and has made no announcements to that effect. BCIT has made only one previous recent announcement on 6/13/2005. In November 2004 BCIT commenced bringing its SEC filings up to date and consulted with brokers in the USA and Europe regarding a reverse merger with a European realty business. BCIT hopes to rehire its original transfer agent http://pacificstocktransfer.com in tandem with its SEC filings. On 6/20/2005 Thomas Megas and Martin Duffy were reinstated as officers of the company with the Nevada Secretary of State. On 7/28/2005, Blue-sky Solutions, LLC, having been hired by the fraudulent parties, resigned as investor relations contact for the company. In the interest of protecting current shareholders who may unwittingly be holding illegally printed shares, BCIT will be petitioning the NASD to enforce SEC rule 203(b)(3) http://www.law.uc.edu/CCL/regSHO/rule203.html and effect a "buy-in" by the parties who originally sold the invalid shares signed by Richard Carter and have effectively "failed to deliver" what they represented as valid shares of BCIT. SOURCE: Bancorp International Inc. Thomas Megas President and CEO Bancorp International Group Inc 15 Onslow Gardens Suite 7 London, SW7 3AW United Kingdom Phone: 44 20 78239258 (C) 2005 PRIMEZONE, All rights reserved. Source: Bancorp International Inc. Bancorp International Group, Inc. Announces Share Certificate Forgeries NEW YORK, Aug. 11, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- With regard to the on-going investigation, Thomas Megas, the President of Bancorp International Group, Inc., announced the following statement: "Let it be known that share certificates bearing the legend 'Bancorp International Group Inc' and purportedly signed by Mr. Thomas Megas as President and M. Puig as Secretary are forgeries and therefore do not constitute any part thereof the issued equity of BCIT. BCIT have never issued such certificates bearing this legend." Thomas Megas. President, BCIT CONTACT: Bancorp International Group B. Wakeling 001447961992681
Posted by BooDog on :
Thanks Tex. Great info. You would think they would have checked the legends.... rocks!
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Tex--Called DTC earlier- transfered 4 times-no one knew nothin'. THANKS.
I believe this was shorted big time in the last couple months-(only way to handle all those order's)- but do you think they have been doing this since 2005? Or just since the spike last month?
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
TEX, I read the pdf file at ihub bhub, I put the cusip number and the file number listed on the pdf file at the dtc website. I cant find the doc. I have already had a bad day, lol, what the hell am i doin wrong. TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
perhaps you didn't specify CUSIP, instead of document?
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
T-man PM'd me about the DTC notice for BHUB, and I verified that, in fact, it does *not* pull up, now...even though, eg, the BCIT report still does...
things that make you go hmmmm....
Posted by BooDog on :
i was wondering if the cusip was even correct. Had the same result here too.
Posted by T e x on :
lol, I'm mystified--asked some guys at da hub and they report seeing, but with an updated graphic...suggested I was trying during the update... tried again, even "most recent"--no luck... I'm wondering if they were refreshing the .pdf... weird.
Posted by cottonjim on :
you all have been busy, Keep at it I have some hockey and baseball to watch, b-back
Posted by Jenna on :
Can someone do a summation for this blonde...
Basically all I need to know is.....IS this dd you are digging up good or bad for us? TIA!! Posted by T e x on :
lol, no such thing as bad DD--if it's any good Posted by 5times1 on :
Can someone explain what would happen to my shares if trading is halted? Will the stock price go down after? Thanks in advance.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by 5times1: Can someone explain what would happen to my shares if trading is halted? Will the stock price go down after? Thanks in advance.
If it's halted there will be no trading, it's "frozen"....
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: lol, no such thing as bad DD--if it's any good
HaHa Tex!!! I meant is the info that is coming out going to help the PPS or hurt it?....sorry if I wasn't clear.... Posted by 5times1 on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 5times1: Can someone explain what would happen to my shares if trading is halted? Will the stock price go down after? Thanks in advance.
If it's halted there will be no trading, it's "frozen"....
Got that but what happens after that?
Thanks again.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 5times1:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by 5times1: Can someone explain what would happen to my shares if trading is halted? Will the stock price go down after? Thanks in advance.
If it's halted there will be no trading, it's "frozen"....
quote:Originally posted by T e x: lol, no such thing as bad DD--if it's any good
HaHa Tex!!! I meant is the info that is coming out going to help the PPS or hurt it?....sorry if I wasn't clear....
Ha, Jenna... just kidding...
seriously, it's a touchy situation...hard to say "good" or "bad," imo... ie, good for whom? *might* be great for daytraders, not so much for anyone wanting to plunk down a lil, then ignore it for a coupla days...
Is the DTC notice a precursor to a suspension? or notice to offending brokers to cover so their firms don't get in trouble?
Will the CEO get 15c2-11 filed? If so, DTC may direct a buy-in...weeeeee!
If not, could be grey city...
In some ways it's more interesting to me, personally, than BCIT, cuz the company is much closer to being "up-to-date," as it were...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Can someone do a summation for this blonde...
Basically all I need to know is.....IS this dd you are digging up good or bad for us? TIA!!
Jenna- basically it's wait and see. Pretty soon it will be sells only everywhere- they need to get off SHO list first. Then it will be suspended- while broker's try to get out of Rule 203. Eventually the "sellers" of the stock into the market will have to buy-in to comply with SEC Rules.IMO I see it as 2 squeezes, so I'm riding free shares to the end. The links tex and tman posted shows a similar situation- so I would submit that it would run along the same lines.(BCIT only had 400m or so counterfeit shares)
Hope that helps. Anyway I'm GTC * .20,.65, and $1. They gotta pay to get them shares!
Posted by 5times1 on :
Thanks Tex that answers it. Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: lol, no such thing as bad DD--if it's any good
HaHa Tex!!! I meant is the info that is coming out going to help the PPS or hurt it?....sorry if I wasn't clear....
Ha, Jenna... just kidding...
seriously, it's a touchy situation...hard to say "good" or "bad," imo... ie, good for whom? *might* be great for daytraders, not so much for anyone wanting to plunk down a lil, then ignore it for a coupla days...
Is the DTC notice a precursor to a suspension? or notice to offending brokers to cover so their firms don't get in trouble?
Will the CEO get 15c2-11 filed? If so, DTC may direct a buy-in...weeeeee!
If not, could be grey city...
In some ways it's more interesting to me, personally, than BCIT, cuz the company is much closer to being "up-to-date," as it were...
Tex- are you saying they would let BHUB continue trading in the grey's...until the counterfeit shares are absorbed? That sucks!
Posted by Jenna on :
Thanks Zero, I'm just thinking the shorts will complain to their friends at the SEC & then the SEC will protect their buddies.....then shorters are off the hook...eventually going to the grey's where it's easy for them to cover (or can they cover on the grey's...I heard that they can't but then again we can't believe much of what we hear, can we?)
...and Tex thanks to you also...you are very valuable to this whole board...you keep things REAL....we need that....(now you can blush)... Posted by T e x on :
ya, suspension will carry a notice to broker/dealers that basically says, if you're gonna make a market in this issue, you're on the hook for any junk...
the company (any company, generically) will have to find an MM willing to "sponsor" them via 15c2-11...or, more simply "form 211"... to get off greys.
What's interesting here is the company seems to be in that process, now...
and, btw, it's not a matter of "letting" it trade on greys--they can't stop it: they can suspend for 10 days, but after that, SEC has to have a different reason for another suspension.
hence, the touchiness...timing is critical here, imo
An aside--everybody knows the CEO (or some exec...can't remember offhand) is scheduled to be on Trader's Nation radio tomorrow, right? That's the Bill Panetta thing...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Thanks Zero, I'm just thinking the shorts will complain to their friends at the SEC & then the SEC will protect their buddies.....then shorters are off the hook...eventually going to the grey's where it's easy for them to cover (or can they cover on the grey's...I heard that they can't but then again we can't believe much of what we hear, can we?)
...and Tex thanks to you also...you are very valuable to this whole board...you keep things REAL....we need that....(now you can blush)...
not sure, waiting on tex to reply.LOL
I hope they can't.
Posted by Jenna on :
Tex- I didn't realize they were already looking for an MM, that must mean that they are expecting the SEC to step in & halt.....interesting....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Thanks Zero, I'm just thinking the shorts will complain to their friends at the SEC & then the SEC will protect their buddies.....then shorters are off the hook...eventually going to the grey's where it's easy for them to cover (or can they cover on the grey's...I heard that they can't but then again we can't believe much of what we hear, can we?)
...and Tex thanks to you also...you are very valuable to this whole board...you keep things REAL....we need that....(now you can blush)...
lol...
Jenna wonders about "covering on greys..."
MMs can naked short to "make a market" ie, fulfill their liquidity duties in securities that are elegible...greys are not. Hence, they can't keep shorting...for one thing, remember no bid/ask... but my understanding is they can trade for their own accounts...and thereby cover.
Posted by Jenna on :
So now that is cleared up....thank you sir....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Tex- I didn't realize they were already looking for an MM, that must mean that they are expecting the SEC to step in & halt.....interesting....
I could be wrong, but that's the way I understand it now. If I were you, I'd listen or arrange for someone to report the results of the interview tomorrow... pretty sure these things will be addressed--well, they *should* be...
Posted by juice on :
well my buys filled today at 24 and 19, so i just have more now. i figured we would test support, but that seemed like a panic. chart still suggests a strong uptrend to blow away that previous .007.... but of course there are lots of questions surrounding the future of BHUB... well just hang on folks, it just may be all coming together for us. Saw the same sentiment with BCIT and PAIV. GL to you all who are still in!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Tex- I didn't realize they were already looking for an MM, that must mean that they are expecting the SEC to step in & halt.....interesting....
I could be wrong, but that's the way I understand it now. If I were you, I'd listen or arrange for someone to report the results of the interview tomorrow... pretty sure these things will be addressed--well, they *should* be...
I asked Mister Kermit if he would give me a summary of it seeing that I will be working tomarrow....
Posted by T e x on :
there ya go...
Posted by Jenna on :
Good Night all.....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Posted by: Bill Panetta In reply to: None Date:4/11/2007 8:28:39 PM Post #of 32580
CHANGE OF VENUE: Darrell Peterson interview...
Because of the recent events, Mr. Darrell Peterson, Pres./Ceo BIGHUB.COM will be appearing on http://tradersnation.com between 11:00a.m.-12:00 est. Thursday April 12, 2007.... just click on TELEVISION icon on the website to view video of the show. Also you will be able to listen to the interview in our trading room as well. http://www.breakout***********/index2/livechat.php
Although we are delighted to welcome Mr. Peterson to our live chat, at any point in time,we are limited in the number of members we can accommodate. Mr. Peterson and myself, felt it was best to bring this interview to a much larger audience.
Therefore, Kurt Schemers /Traders Nation will be doing the interview and i will co-host, as usual. Please copy and paste the link below for the video feed, using windows media player.
For those members of our live chat, the audio program will be piped in, as usual.
About Traders Nation Multiple segments make up the 'LIVE' hour-long program where listeners and viewers gather daily to hear the latest market news of the day and scheduled guests, from industry experts and CEO's. Traders also share investing, trading strategies and potential hot stock plays swirl throughout the call-in portion of the show.
Recent guests on Traders Nation have been: Steve Forbes -- president and CEO of Forbes Inc., editor-in-chief of Forbes Magazine, and Republican candidate for president, Willie Nelson -- Country Music Legend, Dave Kansas -- Editor of The Wall Street Journal Money & Investing section, Ken Fisher -- Forbes columnist and book author, and the list goes on!
bump this from time to time, y'all--sounds like those interested should logon early ???
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Good morning yall. Its way to early to be thinking about this. lol. I have a question about the 15c211. If bhub files a 15c211 what does that do for the company? Does it protect against a suspension? What will it do for stock holders? Any help would be appreciated. TMAN...
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
I checked by ihub and clarity laid this out. I am sure that it has some truth and opinion but if it plays out it could get real interesting. TMAN...
as long as it shows advanced growing systems under bighub.com on the sos pages I'm not sure what will help these guys prove who they are. Will the real owner please step forward. Will the fraudsters please serve big time.
Posted by williamjones on :
Thanks Williamjones. still nothing on the sec site.
I'm trailing John Sparrow. Have meetings today interfering with my research but there are a few of them out there. Even in nevada. looks like a possible canadian connection also.
Did you get your call back zero? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by ZeroCool on April 11, 2007 10:50:
Okay, this is what I found out lats couple day's.
1) A Federal Warrant of Arrest for "John Sparrow" a)Looks like false name- FBI looking for him.
2)FBI investigating Select Stock Transfer a)I think that's why they stopped cooperating with BHUB--(taking the 5th?)
3)Also, investigating GRDX,YNTE,ILGY,TCPI,MGLG,KSWJ,EWRX,CBRP,WHKA a)these are related to "John Sparrow"- there are about 12 more I am told-will post when I find
4)BHUB- will post after Darrell returns my call a)waiting to verify some details with him
5)6m shares--check this; they are in CERTIFICATE! a)Held by Investor for over 3yrs
7)Approx. 37 subpeona's issued so far a)should be on-line for verification within next 10 days or so.
That's it so far- I don't think this helps with figuring out when to cut bait- just FYI.
This has been a flipper's dream- hope everyone is making tons of green on this.
might add KSWJ.pk and ABSY.pk to that list, Sparrow doesn't appear active now. Couldn't find a symbol for "EWRX INTERNET SYSTEMS INC" may or may not be relevant.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
This is starting to look like CSHD over here. Jenna, Tex, myself? Deja vu?
Posted by BooDog on :
BHUB -- BigHub.com, Inc. (THE) Com ($0.001) Primary Venue: Pink Sheets Security Status: Halted
BHUB (.0026) Select American Transfer Co.: Select American Transfer Co. Responds to Interim President of The BigHub.com Inc.
Thursday , April 12, 2007 04:06 ET
Toronto, CANADA, Apr 12, 2007 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Select American Transfer Co. wishes to respond to the Press Release issued by The BigHub.com, Inc. (Other OTC: BHUB.PK) on April 11, 2007.
Select American Transfer Co. would like to articulate its position with respect to The BigHub.com Inc.:
1. Select American Transfer Co. never gave a CERTIFIED shareholder list to the interim management of The BigHub.com Inc. It was a preliminary list that required review but was sent as a courtesy to the interim management of The BigHub.com Inc. clearly demonstrating no attempt to block Mr. Peterson from obtaining any records or information on a Company that is no longer a client.
2. Select American Transfer Co. has notified many parties of its resignation as Transfer Agent of The BigHub.com Inc. and did just that when called by www.pinksheets.com on March 30, 2007. Again, we resigned as Transfer Agent months ago and sent the records back to the company at the same time.
3. Select American Transfer Co. only issues shares after receiving DIRECT INSTRUCTIONS from company officers and or directors and the The BigHub.com Inc. was no exception. All shares have been issued after receipt of written instructions from previous management.
4. According to Select American Transfer Co., no shares were issued EXCLUSIVELY to certain individuals and or entities who may or may not reside in Canada.
5. To the best of our knowledge, US tax legislation and or regulation clearly defines a time period for a person and or entity to convert outstanding debt into shares. We believe that the interim management has lost its right to do so if this is their approach in assuming control over The BigHub.com Inc.
6. It is our belief that the interim management is attempting to manipulate share price through its actions at the expense of a former Transfer Agent. We hope this assertion will draw the necessary attention of all shareholders as such actions can harm them as well.
Nathan Rogers, President stated: " Mr. Peterson has not been called back by me personally because he has already misused and manipulated unverified information given by our staff to him in good faith. His PR's clearly demonstrate an attempt to distort the facts in order to mislead BHUB shareholders and manipulate share price. We are not going to waste any more time or resources with this matter but we are so disturbed by his actions that we will contact the SEC through our attorneys to let them know about his actions."
About Select American Transfer Co.
Select American Transfer Co. is a transfer agent licensed under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and regulated by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
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Posted by BooDog on :
If my puter grants me access LOL
Posted by juice on :
select american is finished doing anything they can right now imo.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Doesn't look halted to me
Posted by williamjones on :
cottonjim - you need to click on the link: http://www.otcbb.com/marketwatch/ It is halted - you maybe able to put an order in but it is only gonna site there - no trading.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Boodog, I checked out advanced growing systems a couple of weeks ago. Here is the info from Pinksheets. It does not show that they were ever bhub in a previous life. They may have done a RM with someone else or RS and changed the name. Maybe Florida SOS needs better quality control of their business. TMAN...
AGWS -- Advanced Growing Systems, Inc. Com ($0.001) Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.
Address: 755 Union Hill Rd. Alpharetta, GA 30004 USA
Business Description: Advanced Growing Systems, Inc. is the parent company of Organic Growing Systems Inc. OGSI is a scientifically based organic fertilizer manufacturer. Advanced Growing System, Inc. is also the parent company of Advanced Nurseries, Inc. Advanced Nurseries is a wholesale distribution powerhouse focused on the professional landscape contractor in the Southeastern US.
Primary State of Incorporation: Nevada
Country of Incorporation: USA Year of Incorporation 2006
Officers: Christopher J. Nichols, Chairman/CEO/President; Lyle J. Mortensen, CFO; Martin Reiner, Secretary/Treasurer
Fiscal Year End: December 31
Edgar Filing Status: Non EDGAR Filer
Sedar Filing Status: Non SEDAR Filer
Outstanding Shares: 21,271,030 as of 2006-09-19
Estimated Market Cap: Not Available Authorized Shares: 500,000,000 as of 2006-07-01 Float: 5,013,409 as of 2006-07-19 Number of Shareholders of Record: 64 as of 2006-07-19
Current Capital Change: shs decreased by 1 for 10000 split Ex-Date: Record Date: Pay Date: 2006-06-22
Dividends:
Company Notes: Formerly=PCC Group, Inc. until 10-05 Formerly=Non-Lethal Weapons, Inc. until 6-06
Class Notes: Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 1000 split. Effective date=10-17-05
Transfer Agent: Bay City Transfer, Bay City, MI 48708
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
FYI - They're saying on I H U B that BHUB put the halt on, not the SEC. Can resume trading anytime. T-1 halt code.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Sure enough, chit. That gamble didn't pay off......yet.
Posted by thesource on :
No trades might be a very bad thing ........ I guess we wait and see .
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
T.1 CODE:
T.1 Trading Halt - News Pending Trading is pending the release of material news. OTCBB issue is a deritive or component of a security which is listed on The Nasdaq Stock Market, U.S. exchange, or foreign market or exchange, and there is a trading halt on the underlying security.
A H.10 halt code would mean SEC suspension.
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: This is starting to look like CSHD over here. Jenna, Tex, myself? Deja vu?
LOL!!! I'm not sure if Tex ever owned CSHD, he was just our "govenor"....love ya Tex!
Posted by cottonjim on :
HMMMM, the soup thickens... Is anyone able to verify this?
Posted by: clarity789 In reply to: None Date:4/12/2007 9:19:23 AM Post #of 33250
BHUB is now an OTCBB listing - on AlphaTrade.
So this was definately a NASDAQ halt for the news..... and it looks to be something spectacular IMO
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Thanks stock, I was just about to post that. At least we know it is not news regarding bankruptsy. lol. TMAN...
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: HMMMM, the soup thickens... Is anyone able to verify this?
Posted by: clarity789 In reply to: None Date:4/12/2007 9:19:23 AM Post #of 33250
BHUB is now an OTCBB listing - on AlphaTrade.
So this was definately a NASDAQ halt for the news..... and it looks to be something spectacular IMO
If that is true, "We're Golden" (where have I heard that before? lol)
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
I believe if we uplist to another exchange, the illegal shares MUST be covered prior to.
Holy KABOOM IN PPS BATMAN!!
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Dont they have to file a 15c211 first? TMAN...
Posted by Jenna on :
Is there anybody here that's going to listen to the CEO speak today?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Dont they have to file a 15c211 first? TMAN...
To resume trading? answer NO
BHUB initiated the halt - they basically told MM's not to trade it due to NEWS PENDING. It's sort of like a timeout.
Posted by madmoney on :
Posted by kermit42 on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: HMMMM, the soup thickens... Is anyone able to verify this?
Posted by: clarity789 In reply to: None Date:4/12/2007 9:19:23 AM Post #of 33250
BHUB is now an OTCBB listing - on AlphaTrade.
So this was definately a NASDAQ halt for the news..... and it looks to be something spectacular IMO
Yes. This is a "T1" halt, which means halted for pending news. They wouldn't have done that for bad news.
Edit: oops. I can verify the halt for news, I cannot verify the uplisting.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Posted by Jenna on :
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Is there anybody here that's going to listen to the CEO speak today?
Would you mind transcripting for us Jenna , you've had lots of experience at it Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Dont they have to file a 15c211 first? TMAN...
They had better! But, it does look like they might be a touch concerned about us "bagholders"LOL
Posted by Jenna on :
Source, buddy, I would love to but I have to go to work soon.... Posted by PCola77 on :
nevermind
Posted by Chris4205 on :
Is there any possible scenario where this temporary halt could be good?
Posted by thesource on :
Did you buy back in yesterday , Jenna ?
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Did you buy back in yesterday , Jenna ?
Yes, 150,000 shares. ...and you?
Posted by 10of13 on :
I've never heard of the company being able to do so...ODD....
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Dont they have to file a 15c211 first? TMAN...
To resume trading? answer NO
BHUB initiated the halt - they basically told MM's not to trade it due to NEWS PENDING. It's sort of like a timeout.
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Source, buddy, I would love to but I have to go to work soon....
jenna, aren't you maybe feeling a little under the weather today Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: HMMMM, the soup thickens... Is anyone able to verify this?
Posted by: clarity789 In reply to: None Date:4/12/2007 9:19:23 AM Post #of 33250
BHUB is now an OTCBB listing - on AlphaTrade.
So this was definately a NASDAQ halt for the news..... and it looks to be something spectacular IMO
How could this be if they are "just a shell"?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Cottonjim....don't encourage her... Jenna..go to work!
Posted by madmoney on :
I have deleted my post! if all of the " quoters " will delete thiers we can let my comments pass. I assumed too mutch and will reserve futher opinions for "news", my apologies for jumping the gun!
Posted by Jenna on :
LOL!!! 10 & CJim tooooo funny.....
Posted by PCola77 on :
deleted mine, madmoney.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Sorry folks, my question about the 15c211 was to trade on a higher exchange, ie. otcbb not to resume trading. Sorry for the confusion. TMAN...
Posted by Jenna on :
Mad, no sweat, none of us are perfect.... Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: I have deleted my post! if all of the " quoters " will delete thiers we can let my comments pass. I assumed too mutch and will reserve futher opinions for "news", my apologies for jumping the gun!
deleted mine. sorry for calling you a butthead..........lol
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Did you buy back in yesterday , Jenna ?
Yes, 150,000 shares. ...and you?
I bought 83K at .003 with the intent to flip out around .005 but it never happened . After I bought , it took a major crap .
I'm out a couple hundred if this goes to the ****ter . If it pops , I might make a few grand . Who knows but its fun to watch .
Posted by Jenna on :
ST2006- Hey delete that last butthead comment!!
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Cottonjim....don't encourage her... Jenna..go to work!
OK,OK, yes jenna, you need to go to work *wink*wink*
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Is it me? or did that PR from SAT seem a little Jerry Springer? Accusations of stock price manipulation? This is going to get a little ugly now.
Can anyone gimme a link to the "T.1 halt"--myself and a few other's contacted DTC and a few broker's yesterday- with a post by TEX showing the actual warning sent out by the DTC as if they initiated it.
Posted by juice on :
At least the interviewer is impressed! 56 minutes until the story unfolds....
Posted by: Bill Panetta In reply to: makinggreen123 who wrote msg# 32311 Date:4/11/2007 10:09:07 PM Post #of 33411
I think people dont understand darrell not even close to being a rufus or don from awyb darrell very impressive.
Posted by juice on :
"The way it works is that the companies notify NASDAQ with their news by sending it to ********** or Marketwatch. NASD, NASDAQ's parent, and NASDAQ look over the news to see if the news is going to impact the company's stock in a positive or negative way. "What we look for is news that will significantly affect the value of the stock," says DeMeo. "
thats a t1 halt
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
"What we look for is news that will significantly affect the value of the stock," says DeMeo."
Posted by ZeroCool on :
10- juice-- EXACTLY what i was looking for- thanks!
Posted by williamjones on :
Significantly affect stock?? I believe that a drop from .0026 to zero is significant. This puppy is dead and smells to holy hell.
Posted by stockcop on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Dont they have to file a 15c211 first? TMAN...
They had better! But, it does look like they might be a touch concerned about us "bagholders"LOL
Somebody here said to take out your initial money just in case, thanks. Because I did yesterday.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
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Posted by beechwood on :
The BS that there were "still a lot of nice gains ahead" and "it'll take a week to halt" blah, blah, blah, blah, proved wrong. I'm glad I got out when I did with a 400% gain and ignored all the hype to jump back in. Like the song says: "Turn out the lights....dew, dew, dee, dew,.... The party's over...."
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: Significantly affect stock?? I believe that a drop from .0026 to zero is significant. This puppy is dead and smells to holy hell.
But the Devil has wings!LOL
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: Significantly affect stock?? I believe that a drop from .0026 to zero is significant. This puppy is dead and smells to holy hell.
Oh man, I wish I could sell right now after reading and being blessed by your infinite wisdom - But dammit, I CAN'T!!!!!!!! We're halted by the company! Posted by juice on :
fact is nobody knows. im curious as to why peterson would go on tradersnation if its all bad news. we'll see. crossing my fingers. bought a lot on the dip yesterday eeeeeekkkkk. still sold a bunch in the 5's before.... o well this is nutty!
Posted by cottonjim on :
Now folks are getting email from their brokers saying that they will buy their stock back right now but the funds wont be available until after the DTC crap clears up! Never heard of that before, sounds like someone needs some shares pretty bad, and why the panic on their part if this is all B.S.
Posted by SherriT on :
Hopefully, the decision to dump yesterday was the start of a new uptrend for me. Having been through the CSHD saga, I really feel for those of you who got stuck...
Posted by kermit42 on :
quote:Originally posted by BULListic: At least the interviewer is impressed! 56 minutes until the story unfolds....
Posted by: Bill Panetta In reply to: makinggreen123 who wrote msg# 32311 Date:4/11/2007 10:09:07 PM Post #of 33411
I think people dont understand darrell not even close to being a rufus or don from awyb darrell very impressive.
This really looks like the perfect storm. The hijacking, the illegal shares, the shorting and now it all comes together and the company in the middle is a pink sheet company that doesn't have a pink sheet CEO.
Win or lose, every day I find a new reason to love BHUB. I'm humbled to be a small part of this event.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Looks like this has turned into a healthy topic.
Who halted the trading. SEC or the company?
Posted by cottonjim on :
All I know is I rolled the dice big time with this one, I accumulated alot of shares over the last few days and I knew the risk. Wont blame anyone but myself if I loose it all. Worst part is, I was sober when I did it so I can't even blame that
Am I rich yet?? Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
If people can't read or understand a T.1 halt code, then they got serious problems.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Now folks are getting email from their brokers saying that they will buy their stock back right now but the funds wont be available until after the DTC crap clears up! Never heard of that before, sounds like someone needs some shares pretty bad, and why the panic on their part if this is all B.S.
Cotton- do you have a verified email of that yet? If that's true- you the man! I was told yesterday by TDa- they woud be seeking "reponibility of the shares from the broker's who sold to them"- Buy-in? IMO the panic is due to a "double short squeeze"(just made that up)trying to cover at the low.
For me- there is no bad news on this stock. Free shares.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Looks like this has turned into a healthy topic.
Who halted the trading. SEC or the company?
can't stay, but remember...a *halt* and a *suspension* are two, way different things...
can a halt be bad? yes... but can also be good...
a suspension is never good...
This is extremely interesting, and I wish I could stay and play, but gotta go to a job...
Won't be long now till the press event.
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Now folks are getting email from their brokers saying that they will buy their stock back right now but the funds wont be available until after the DTC crap clears up! Never heard of that before, sounds like someone needs some shares pretty bad, and why the panic on their part if this is all B.S.
Cotton- do you have a verified email of that yet? If that's true- you the man! I was told yesterday by TDa- they woud be seeking "reponibility of the shares from the broker's who sold to them"- Buy-in? IMO the panic is due to a "double short squeeze"(just made that up)trying to cover at the low.
For me- there is no bad news on this stock. Free shares.
FWIW, Posted by JamesB at IHUB Posted by: JamesB In reply to: None Date:4/12/2007 10:06:43 AM Post #of 33674
Make of this what you will. I got a phone call a few minutes ago from my broker telling me if I wanted to sell BHUB that he would take the order and pass it on to Penson to be filled. However the funds would not be available until the DTCC crap is cleared up. They just followed up with this email:
To: "David Drillick" <David_Drillick*trackdata.com>, "Rodger Neblett" <Rodger_Neblett*trackdata.com>, "Stan Stern" <Stan_Stern*trackdata.com> CC: "Steven Nelson" <Steven_Nelson*trackdata.com>, "Richard Langer" <Richard_Langer*trackdata.com>, "Antonio Priolo" <Antonio_Priolo*trackdata.com> Subject: ATTN: TRACK DATA CUSTOMER From: "Robert McKay" <Robert_McKay*trackdata.com> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:55:24 -0400
Please be advised that we are now taking LIQUIDATION ONLY orders for BHUB. All orders for this security MUST be called into the trading desk, 718-923-3007. No funds from the sale of liquidations of BHUB will be released until the shares clear thru DTCC and the Global Lock has been lifted. If you have any questions or would like to place a trade please call the trading desk.
Robert Mckay Track Data Securities Corp. 718-923-3007
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Hopefully, the decision to dump yesterday was the start of a new uptrend for me. Having been through the CSHD saga, I really feel for those of you who got stuck...
I understand now that the halt was by the company, so I hope those of you holding are truly and completely FILTHY STINKING RICH!
Posted by T e x on :
ok, one last...was thinking only Naz stocks (or other big-boards) are elegible for halts, so I checked Bishop's posts, thinking he might weigh in:
quote:Posted by: Jim Bishop In reply to: jobynimble who wrote msg# 32773 Date:4/12/2007 10:07:48 AM Post #of 33682
Not on OTC BB or Pinks joby...Naz NYSE AMEX TSE TSX yes.
Limited OTCBB Trade Halt Authority Approved by SEC
On May 22, 2000, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) approved amendments to NASD Rule 6545. These amendments will be implemented on June 26, 2000. This rule change will provide Nasdaq® with the authority to halt trading and quotations in securities traded on the OTC Bulletin Board® (OTCBB) in circumstances where it is necessary to protect investors and the public interest. Halts will be initiated in OTCBB securities when: the security is dually listed on or registered with a foreign securities exchange or market, and the foreign market or regulatory authority halts trading for regulatory reasons; a security is a derivative/component of a security listed on a national securities exchange or Nasdaq, and the exchange or Nasdaq imposes a trading halt in the listed security; or the issuer does not provide the NASD with timely information that is required by SEC Rule 10b-17 regarding "Untimely Announcements of Record Dates." (This rule requires issuers to provide the NASD, within 10 calendar days, with information concerning a dividend or other distribution in cash, a stock or reverse split, and rights or other subscription offerings.) Under the rule change, when data is received from a foreign securities exchange or market, Nasdaq will first evaluate the information and determine if a halt in an OTCBB security is appropriate before initiating a trading or quotation halt. Trading and quotations in the security may resume when Nasdaq has decided, after close review, that there is no further need for the halt, or when five business days have passed from the initial date (whichever occurs first). Prior to this rule change, Nasdaq was authorized to impose halts only in Nasdaq-listed securities and securities listed on a national securities exchange and traded in the Nasdaq Third Market. Until this point, however, there was no rule granting Nasdaq the authority to impose trading or quotation halts in OTCBB securities. Nasdaq hopes that the expanded trade-halt authority will increase investor protection with respect to securities quoted in the OTCBB.
Trade and quote halt information will be available beginning June 26th on a real time basis on this web site. Halt information will be accessible from the home page under "Trade Halts".
so my take at the moment is not so good--still think it's better than a suspension, though...
Posted by madmoney on :
taking LIQUIDATION ONLY orders for BHUB.------ at what price??
Posted by BooDog on :
WOW. very interesting.
Anyone ever seen a weeks worth of trade go backwards?
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: taking LIQUIDATION ONLY orders for BHUB.------ at what price??
will they be liqudating your positions for the price you paid? or for the price at close yesterday??? and what if you decide not to sell? will they become worthless at some point?? is this going to be your only oppertunity to liquidate???
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Hopefully, the decision to dump yesterday was the start of a new uptrend for me. Having been through the CSHD saga, I really feel for those of you who got stuck...
I understand now that the halt was by the company, so I hope those of you holding are truly and completely FILTHY STINKING RICH!
2 out of 3 aint bad, LMAO Posted by thesource on :
I'll take $1.00 a share for my 83K shares ......... If any short brokers are reading this , shoot me a private meassage !!! Posted by BooDog on :
Yell the "O" for Oriols!!!
Posted by PCola77 on :
Anyone here listening to the tradersnation thing? I don't want to venture over to the insanity of IHub
Posted by williamjones on :
It's in a commercial but they say that BHUB will be discussed shortly.
Posted by thesource on :
Am I rich yet ???
Posted by 10of13 on :
PC I am...I'll attempt to say what's happening...
Posted by cottonjim on :
Alright, here is the situation as I choose to see it (bear in mind the wool has been pulled over my eyes )
Yesterday, PENSON restricted buys, but were still accepting sells.
This caught on with a few brokerages and they started doing the same.
To me this indicates a short position. But the action did trigger a massive sell off and allowed for some covering.
The company, knowing that there was something big in the pipeline, requested a T1 halt of trading, to stop the covering.
If they wouldn't have, there certainly would have been more covering today.
PENSON, who started this action to try to cover, now is offering to take liquidation sells ONLY. IMO in an attempt to continue covering the massive short position before they are forced to cover on the open market.
Is that even legal????? This story just gets weirder and weirder every day.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Hopefully, the decision to dump yesterday was the start of a new uptrend for me. Having been through the CSHD saga, I really feel for those of you who got stuck...
I understand now that the halt was by the company, so I hope those of you holding are truly and completely FILTHY STINKING RICH!
2 out of 3 aint bad, LMAO
Filthy and Stinking, eh, Jim? Posted by PCola77 on :
Much appreciated. I've already been reprimanded at work for using streaming programs like AlphaTrade and MicroCapTrade, so I am not allowed to do that kind of stuff anymore
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: PC I am...I'll attempt to say what's happening...
Posted by BooDog on :
Talking about idcn and vonage... am i on the right link?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Notihing yet...on TN... Yes Boo...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
cotton---"liquidation order"= sell me your shares cheap, because I got caught with my pant's down!LOL
Posted by BooDog on :
Thanks 10!
Posted by BooDog on :
hearing 11:40
major RM announcement and uplist
someone's dreaming.
imagine someone buying this shell now with all the attention.
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL..Boo where did you get that?
Posted by BooDog on :
Some wishful thinkers out there.
Posted by 10of13 on :
BHUB is next...on TN
Posted by thesource on :
I just got off the phone with BofA and they are not wrapped up in this stock shortage problem . He said that something sounds really fishy about brokers offering to buy back shares like that .
I'm strapping in and ready for launch . Question is , did anyone fill up the rocket ship with fuel or not ?
Posted by PCola77 on :
$5 says they don't give any new info and everyone's left disappointed Posted by 10of13 on :
-The company didn't do the halt... -CEO thinks it has to do with DTC
Posted by williamjones on :
Stock halted by NASD rule 6660 not by BHUB.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: I just got off the phone with BofA and they are not wrapped up in this stock shortage problem . He said that something sounds really fishy about brokers offering to buy back shares like that .
I'm strapping in and ready for launch . Question is , did anyone fill up the rocket ship with fuel or not ?
5m worth!lol
Posted by PCola77 on :
Can't copy paste appropriate text, since it's a pdf, but here's info about Rule 6660(a)(3)
CEO States -they new nothing of a RM -they recieved info from the TA...PR'd info -the company will be very proactive in this case -AS 50 milion..no changes -21m OS according to company
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
MOMMA!! Posted by ZeroCool on :
Good, it's way out there now! Shorts couldn't have covered in the last couple days?
Posted by 10of13 on :
CEO states they are a Florida Corp...NOT a Delaware -TA issued over 1b80 shares..as of March 05 -SEC att...in place -Has been SEC for DTC companies -future plans are to fund small businesses.. -in discussions with several companies -most likely a RM of one form or another -issue of shares must get resolved first -10 days before website ready
Posted by williamjones on :
halted by NASD (666 rule) If you got $$ in this then it's gonna be a long long time before you see it again - that is if you ever see it again.
Posted by 10of13 on :
thank you for letting us know...your opinion...
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: halted by NASD (666 rule) If you got $$ in this then it's gonna be a long long time before you see it again - that is if you ever see it again.
Posted by 10of13 on :
That's it...NOTHING... BUT the company DID NOT halt it....
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: halted by NASD (666 rule) If you got $$ in this then it's gonna be a long long time before you see it again - that is if you ever see it again.
You should wait until you've been on here longer before you preach to anyone .
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: That's it...NOTHING... BUT the company DID NOT halt it....
So why was it halted under a T1 ?
Posted by dollar13 on :
AND I DIDN'T BOUGHT YESTERDAY ON THE DIP ,BUT I WAS CLOSE.
Posted by thesource on :
Oh well , I didn't really need that $275.00 that I bought BHUB with anyways . Looks like this pig is done .
Posted by BooDog on :
See if I got this right P
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Can't copy paste appropriate text, since it's a pdf, but here's info about Rule 6660(a)(3)
ATTACHMENT A New language is underlined. Deleted language is in brackets. * * * * * [6545]6660. Trading and Quotation Halt in OTC[BB-Eligible] Equity Securities (a) Authority for Initiating a Trading and Quotation Halt In circumstances in which it is necessary to protect investors and the public interest, NASD may direct members, pursuant to the procedures set forth in paragraph (b), to halt trading and quotations in OTC Equity Securities (as such term is defined in Rule 6610) [the over-the-counter (“OTC”) market of a security or an American Depository Receipt (“ADR”), that is included in the OTC Bulletin Board (“OTCBB”)] if:
(3) NASD determines that an extraordinary event has occurred or is ongoing that has had a material effect on the market for the OTC Equity Security or has caused or has the potential to cause major disruption to the marketplace and/or significant uncertainty in the settlement and clearance process. [the issuer of the OTCBB security or the security underlying the OTCBB ADR fails to comply with the requirements of SEC Rule 10b-17 regarding Untimely Announcements of Record Dates.]
Posted by 10of13 on :
From link (6) there is significant uncertainty in the settlement and clearance process for the security;
Notably, Rule 6660 will not be used in cases solely where NASD suspects that corporate fraud or manipulative activity is occurring with respect to a security, because NASD does not believe this authority is the appropriate tool for addressing allegations of fraud.
Rule 6660 increases the maximum number of business days that NASD can impose a trading and quotation halt from up to five business days to 10 business days. A halt for a period of up to 10 business days is consistent with the SEC’s authority to temporarily suspend trading in securities in accordance with Section 12(k) of the Exchange Act. Increasing the maximum number of days from five to 10 business days will allow more time for regulators to act and for the market of the subject security to stabilize.
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Can't copy paste appropriate text, since it's a pdf, but here's info about Rule 6660(a)(3)
Not sure that i agree with "this pig being done..." this was halted because of the number of shares being cleared through DTC...AND i see no where that states it will open on the greys... Could still be a good play...time will tell...we have 10 trading days anyways...
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Oh well , I didn't really need that $275.00 that I bought BHUB with anyways . Looks like this pig is done .
Posted by T e x on :
lol, had to come back for ladders and had to check in...
wowee, no wonder it was a new one--it *IS* new....just took effect in March, right? Grew out of the 6545 regs...
here's what I get: four or more days' halt is effectively the same as an SEC suspenion--
quote:trading is halted for four or more business days, quoting cannot resume for OTC Equity Securities until brokerdealers comply with the requirements of SEC Rule 15c2-11 and NASD Rule 6640. Such rules require a broker-dealer to review information about the issuer and have a reasonable basis under the circumstances to believe that the issuer information is accurate in all material respects and the sources of such information are reliable. As a result, any trading and quotation halt greater than four business days generally would require broker-dealers to comply with the requirements of NASD Rule 6640 before resuming publication of quotations on the subject security.
man o man...always sumpin...wonder if this is the first time it's been used?
Posted by BooDog on :
He seemed to be pretty "into" the possibilities of a RM by saying this process "is now accelerated" can't remember if he said greatly accelerated. And that he is already in discussions with other companies.
jmo.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Not sure that i agree with "this pig being done..." this was halted because of the number of shares being cleared through DTC...AND i see no where that states it will open on the greys... Could still be a good play...time will tell...we have 10 trading days anyways...
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Oh well , I didn't really need that $275.00 that I bought BHUB with anyways . Looks like this pig is done .
grey's? I wouldn't think Bhub would want to still trade under same Cusip as the counterfeit's.
They were just a co. that got taken advantage of. A crime was committed against them, shareholder's. etc. Unfortunately it is going to take a while to decide who is responsibile for buying back the "fakes" IMO
Come on Darrell, help us with the "buy-in"
Posted by williamjones on :
"They were just a co. that got taken advantage of. A crime was committed against them, shareholder's. etc."
You can be sure that there ill be a number of entities disputing that. The old T/A put out a PR accusing interim mgmt of 'attempting to manipulate share price through its actions at the expense of a former Transfer Agent' .
This is gonna be a long battle.
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: lol, had to come back for ladders and had to check in...
wowee, no wonder it was a new one--it *IS* new....just took effect in March, right? Grew out of the 6545 regs...
here's what I get: four or more days' halt is effectively the same as an SEC suspenion--
quote:trading is halted for four or more business days, quoting cannot resume for OTC Equity Securities until brokerdealers comply with the requirements of SEC Rule 15c2-11 and NASD Rule 6640. Such rules require a broker-dealer to review information about the issuer and have a reasonable basis under the circumstances to believe that the issuer information is accurate in all material respects and the sources of such information are reliable. As a result, any trading and quotation halt greater than four business days generally would require broker-dealers to comply with the requirements of NASD Rule 6640 before resuming publication of quotations on the subject security.
man o man...always sumpin...wonder if this is the first time it's been used?
GREYS SHOULD BE THEN..... Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: He seemed to be pretty "into" the possibilities of a RM by saying this process "is now accelerated" can't remember if he said greatly accelerated. And that he is already in discussions with other companies.
jmo.
R/M. LOL
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: taking LIQUIDATION ONLY orders for BHUB.------ at what price??
will they be liqudating your positions for the price you paid? or for the price at close yesterday??? and what if you decide not to sell? will they become worthless at some point?? is this going to be your only oppertunity to liquidate???
anybody look into this? how mutch can you get for your shares if you liquidate your position today?? how long will this offer be on the table? has this offer been varified?? what will happen if you hold your shares? if brokers are making this offer to holders then they should be able to answer these quetions. anybody curious???
Posted by PCola77 on :
Curious, yes. Curious enough to take the effort to make some phone calls? No.
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: taking LIQUIDATION ONLY orders for BHUB.------ at what price??
will they be liqudating your positions for the price you paid? or for the price at close yesterday??? and what if you decide not to sell? will they become worthless at some point?? is this going to be your only oppertunity to liquidate???
anybody look into this? how mutch can you get for your shares if you liquidate your position today?? how long will this offer be on the table? has this offer been varified?? what will happen if you hold your shares? if brokers are making this offer to holders then they should be able to answer these quetions. anybody curious???
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: "They were just a co. that got taken advantage of. A crime was committed against them, shareholder's. etc."
You can be sure that there ill be a number of entities disputing that. The old T/A put out a PR accusing interim mgmt of 'attempting to manipulate share price through its actions at the expense of a former Transfer Agent' .
This is gonna be a long battle.
yea, mudflingin' begins. The old T/A is just reacting because he was shed in a bad light- he does have other customer's.
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: He seemed to be pretty "into" the possibilities of a RM by saying this process "is now accelerated" can't remember if he said greatly accelerated. And that he is already in discussions with other companies.
jmo.
R/M. LOL
Heyyyyy he said it not me. LMAO surveys said_____ will anyone be looking at this when it comes back to life? prolly wit a squinted eye and a furrowed brow but not wit a finger on the trigger imo.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Boo- wouldn't that be the kicker!
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: Thanks Williamjones. still nothing on the sec site.
I'm trailing John Sparrow. Have meetings today interfering with my research but there are a few of them out there. Even in nevada. looks like a possible canadian connection also.
Did you get your call back zero? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by ZeroCool on April 11, 2007 10:50:
Okay, this is what I found out lats couple day's.
1) A Federal Warrant of Arrest for "John Sparrow" a)Looks like false name- FBI looking for him.
2)FBI investigating Select Stock Transfer a)I think that's why they stopped cooperating with BHUB--(taking the 5th?)
3)Also, investigating GRDX,YNTE,ILGY,TCPI,MGLG,KSWJ,EWRX,CBRP,WHKA a)these are related to "John Sparrow"- there are about 12 more I am told-will post when I find
4)BHUB- will post after Darrell returns my call a)waiting to verify some details with him
5)6m shares--check this; they are in CERTIFICATE! a)Held by Investor for over 3yrs
7)Approx. 37 subpeona's issued so far a)should be on-line for verification within next 10 days or so.
That's it so far- I don't think this helps with figuring out when to cut bait- just FYI.
This has been a flipper's dream- hope everyone is making tons of green on this.
might add KSWJ.pk and ABSY.pk to that list, Sparrow doesn't appear active now. Couldn't find a symbol for "EWRX INTERNET SYSTEMS INC" may or may not be relevant.
POSSIBLY adding PKGH also. still researching
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Boo- not yet, and don't think I will. 12 times to both bhub, and Yucatan. Zilch!
John Sparrow is probably an alias. FBI would have already picked him up. But, he is prolific if not clever.
I will watch the Warrant status and let ya know when they p/u this guy.
Posted by BooDog on :
I only did a partial search of Nevada and Florida, matching addresses - couple different sets of foot prints. Haven't had time to compare assosiated names of each to branch out further. I hope they do catch him.
gotta be real careful about doing this so i don't get my self in trouble by posting bum info and getting someone innocent in trouble.
Posted by cottonjim on :
15c2-11 is prepared.... interesting "will be submitted within 24 hrs to MMs"
Posted by cottonjim on :
50 mil A/S 20 mil. +/- O/S. THe only increase in the future will be for an acquisition, not because of this mess.
He was suprised that a T/A was putting out PR's
Same T/A as ACMG which has some unusual circustances as well.
BHUB feels victomized over this. Said that he wouldn't be working this hard on this problem if he thought the company wouldn't be marketable. In other words, he says it should trade again.
BHUB didn't hire select American and they were suprised when they got their resignation.
BHUB would have no gain in manipulating the PPS. -can't currently issue shares. -Behind in their filings. -Restricted shares can't be sold. -No benifit or loss if the PPS goes up or down. It's a shell.
15c-211 complete, in legal review. Submitted in 24 hours to the mm's.
Can't discuss the conversation with the DTC right now since it is ongoing.
Did i miss anything.
Posted by BooDog on :
NOPE good job jim!
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Thanks Jim for the update. Per our earlier conversation. We are presently bh. Not R. LOL. TMAN...
Posted by cottonjim on :
yep, I already have the vanilla Ice Cream, 2 can's of Drano, and the blender ready Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
mmmmmm a drano smoothie. Throw a few strawberries in for good measure. That will make it more palatable. LOL. TMAN...
Posted by thesource on :
So are we screwed on this one or what ? There is so much B/S flying on IHUB to know whats true and whats not .
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: There is so much B/S flying on IHUB to know whats true and whats not .
So what else is new??? LMAO. I am guessing were screwd for at least ten days. I have been through two of these in the past, one was resolved after 10 days and resumed trading OTC, the other was doomed to the land of the Grey's and still sits there (CEO in jail). I am guessing there will be 10 days of speculation because no one really knows whats what.
Posted by IamtheWalrus on :
There is alot of nonsense going there...looking at a company like BCIT when they had http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/060712/102020.html they eventually changed their QCIP http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/061101/107877.html and thus resulting into http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/061120/109114.html which took over three months to materialize, and still is not trading. That is our worst case scenerio. At best we will be trading in a couple of days to ten maybe....until the halt ends which I believe is ten days. It is a blurry picture as of now, but the CEO is upfront to this day, and it appears he is handling it ethically. JMO of course.
Posted by BULListic on :
Trading officially downgraded from halted to suspended
If Select Transfer were to be found responsible and ordered to buy back the shares - how many would they have to buy back and at what price? Seems like the court would set such terms - ST's PR this AM sounded defiant.
My guess is that the shares will just be cancelled as counterfeit. Shareholders will have to write it off and next time read the fine terms: 'it's all a gamble".
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by BULListic: Trading officially downgraded from halted to suspended
Is that a real doc ? Looks like something I made on my computer . And I thought only the SEC could suspend trading ?
Posted by IamtheWalrus on :
T.1 Trading Halt - News Pending Trading is pending the release of material news. OTCBB issue is a deritive or component of a security which is listed on The Nasdaq Stock Market, U.S. exchange, or foreign market or exchange, and there is a trading halt on the underlying security.
Posted by BULListic on :
Still just halted on the otc web site, maybe they just used a poor choice of words?
Posted by PRD on :
Halted today...
quote:Originally posted by PRD: SEC could step into this one pretty soon. Dont hold overnight if you play it... IMO
quote:Originally posted by Wit: Select American Transfer Co.: Select American Transfer Co. Fires Back
Apr 11, 2007 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Select American Transfer Co. wishes to respond to the Press Release issued by The BigHub.com, Inc. (Other OTC: BHUB.PK) on April 10, 2007.
Select American Transfer Company confirms that it acted as the transfer agent to The BigHub.com Inc. but resigned from this position as transfer agent months ago.
The alleged information provided by Select American Transfer Company to The BigHub.com Inc. was unverified and required further review and verification before making such information public since Select American Transfer Company sent all the books and records to the company months ago when it resigned as transfer agent. The BigHub.com Inc.'s new management was made aware of this fact upon their inquiry for information therefore the view held by Select American Transfer Company is that claims made The BigHub.com Inc's Press Release were misleading and or false .
Select American Transfer Company has notified both www.pinksheets.com and the Depository Trust Corporation (DTC) of its resignation as transfer agent to The BigHub.com Inc.
Nathan Rogers, President stated: " The PR sent out by the management of The BigHUb.com Inc. was misleading and we wanted to set the record straight for the shareholders involved as well as our clients as such misinformation could harm our reputation and it could force us to seek damages from those who maliciously harm our corporate name and image. "
About Select American Transfer Co.
Select American Transfer Co. is a transfer agent licensed under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and regulated by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
Safe Harbor Statement
The preceding includes forward-looking statements which involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties which may cause the company's actual results in future periods to differ materially from forecasted results. Any forward-looking statements above are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially due to a variety of factors, including, without limitation, competition, intellectual property rights, litigation, needs of liquidity, and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's reports filed with the SEC. Investors are cautioned that such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, continued acceptance of the company's products and services, competition, new products and technological changes, as well as any and all "other risks" associated with business.
CONTACT: Nathan Rogers, Select American Transfer Co. Tel: +1 647 722 9581 e-mail: info*selectamericantransfer.com
M2 Communications Ltd disclaims all liability for information provided within M2 PressWIRE. Data supplied by named party/parties. Further information on M2 PressWIRE can be obtained at http://www.presswire.net on the world wide web. Inquiries to info*m2.com.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Thanks for that update PRD. lol. TMAN...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: If Select Transfer were to be found responsible and ordered to buy back the shares - how many would they have to buy back and at what price? Seems like the court would set such terms - ST's PR this AM sounded defiant.
My guess is that the shares will just be cancelled as counterfeit. Shareholders will have to write it off and next time read the fine terms: 'it's all a gamble".
The T/A won't be responsible for the shares- unless he was a part of this scam- which i doubt. They will cancell the shares- either by court order or qsip schange. No gamble left- your either in or out.lol
your shares won't just disappear though, the co. didn't go bankrupt- you got to remember...Bhub is an active co., and for all intents and purposes- the counterfeit shares stand alone. "buy-in", restitution? 10 days and we will see the next step.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Nathan Rogers, President stated: " The PR sent out by the management of The BigHUb.com Inc. was misleading and we wanted to set the record straight for the shareholders involved as well as our clients as such misinformation could harm our reputation and it could force us to seek damages from those who maliciously harm our corporate name and image. "
This guy is an idiot! BHUB only stated they haven't received a return call, and SAT violated Rule 17ad-7.
Posted by williamjones on :
thanks - but if the shares are 'cancelled' what does that mean? Are they replaced with something else? Will we get a '10 cents on the dollar' kind of deal offered? When I log in and see my BHUB - will the # sign be gne. tia
Posted by T e x on :
In theory, the broker, broker/dealer--whoever let 'em into the market--should buy to cover. If they have a case against the TA for damages, well, that's what E & O insurance is for...
Posted by T e x on :
In theory, the broker, broker/dealer--whoever let 'em into the market--should buy to cover. If they have a case against the TA for damages, well, that's what E & O insurance is for...
Posted by juice on :
eeeeeeeek it was nice when bhub was going nutzo this past week or so! I was having a blast never got in a micro penny under .001 that hit .01. I sold some along to way and this almost made it to penny land, then yesterday I was convinced that it still would so I bought a BOATLOAD at 19, HA!!
we'll see what happens. I'm optimistic, but as far as a timetable NO idea. I hope it all clears up as quick as possible. fun fun fun
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: thanks - but if the shares are 'cancelled' what does that mean? Are they replaced with something else? Will we get a '10 cents on the dollar' kind of deal offered? When I log in and see my BHUB - will the # sign be gne. tia
"cancelled", meaning- they will be deemed "counterfeit" legally; therefore severing any connection to the legitimate shares. But they won't just "poof" out of existance...not immediately anyway.LOL
Posted by williamjones on :
If cancelled is counterfeit can I do anything with them. I know if I bring a counterfeit 4100 bill to the bank and try to deposit it, I may as well bring toilet paper. How would this be different? In the end we end up with zilch?
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: If cancelled is counterfeit can I do anything with them. I know if I bring a counterfeit 4100 bill to the bank and try to deposit it, I may as well bring toilet paper. How would this be different? In the end we end up with zilch?
the only money you will see on those shares... is if there is a "buy-in" under the investor protection act.
Posted by cottonjim on :
We really need that form 15c-211 form to be picked up and signed by the mm's, if not, spin city baby.
Posted by IamtheWalrus on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: We really need that form 15c-211 form to be picked up and signed by the mm's, if not, spin city baby.
Ditto! Just go to iHub...what a mess.
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by BULListic: Trading officially downgraded from halted to suspended
IS this an official suspension or are they referencing todays events?
Posted by T e x on :
cat gotchur tongue?
Posted by BooDog on :
edited Tex.... I was scrolling up instead of starting from where I left off. Skipping to the end of the story almost always leaves a sense of wonder.
Posted by T e x on :
lol, Boo...
btw, Subpenny just starting to discuss the *** interview...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog:
quote:Originally posted by BULListic: Trading officially downgraded from halted to suspended
IS this an official suspension or are they referencing todays events?
haven't looked into it enough to know, but I would take NASD/OTCBB designation over DTC's...
Posted by BooDog on :
makes a HUGE difference imo. 4 day cut off to be able to resume Vs. having to have the MM's comply to the re-trade rules.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Tex, Do you know where a person can find the monthly shares traded by MM. I looked at that last week but I cant find it now. Thanks, TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: makes a HUGE difference imo. 4 day cut off to be able to resume Vs. having to have the MM's comply to the re-trade rules.
agreed, simply saying DTC may not "post" correctly...
this is funny chit on SPR...Simon called the AS TA and they wouldn't readily ID themselves: "uhhh, who are you?"
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Tex, Do you know where a person can find the monthly shares traded by MM. I looked at that last week but I cant find it now. Thanks, TMAN...
try the edu section on our home page...like you, I know it's "there," but can't recall it offhand... lemme know if you can't find it, but if you do? would you post in my reference thread? should definitely be there...
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
TEX MY PANTS ARE LOOSE, WHAT SHOULD I DO? LOL Posted by T e x on :
dance
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
TWO STEP? Posted by T e x on :
ya...stick with sumpin' you can handle... Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
LMAO, MENSA Posted by T e x on :
menso...
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
LOL TEX.
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: TEX MY PANTS ARE LOOSE, WHAT SHOULD I DO? LOL
are they cords? might get a couple bucks for them. back in style yet?
Cheers IMAKE!!
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
IM JUST A KID BOO, LOL
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: makes a HUGE difference imo. 4 day cut off to be able to resume Vs. having to have the MM's comply to the re-trade rules.
agreed, simply saying DTC may not "post" correctly...
this is funny chit on SPR...Simon called the AS TA and they wouldn't readily ID themselves: "uhhh, who are you?"
that IS funny. It was bad enough listning to m N 1.
Hey... My friend just asked if Sulja bros had anything to do with this!! lmfao!
Posted by T e x on :
maybe cuz of the Canadian connection... ???
Posted by BooDog on :
Aye M8ty. huntin some Sparrow here.
Posted by T e x on :
as are several interested parties...
Posted by juice on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Tex, Do you know where a person can find the monthly shares traded by MM. I looked at that last week but I cant find it now. Thanks, TMAN...
If this weren't so f'n sad it would be comical to me. I guess all you can do is try to have fun even though everything looks bad. Thanks, by the way, for deleting my post from last night. This is a family atmosphere and as such, we try to have fun and not bash the hell out of each other. I am all about havin fun and some folks here have a history of havin fun together. Sorry I was trying to keep the mood light. I'll be serious now. HMMMCHUUCHMM, I suppose your wondering why I have called you all together. Welcome to the first anual meeting of the travelers club. Are you tired of going to the airport, but not making it through ticketing? I know security has held me up a few times because I didn't have my boarding pass. If your bags are packed but you just cant get past the gate, your in the right place. There are more bagholders at the airport than you know. there is no shame in it, raise your hand and be counted, proudly say "yes I am holding the bag" you will have a support group like no other to tell you that everything is going to be alright.
Hell, everythings goig to be OK, isn't it Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: LMAO, MENSA
IMAKE- what's so funny about MENSA? (Retorical- don't answer)
Posted by cottonjim on :
re-post from last night, jenna, "how you doin" lol
Posted by Jenna on :
Good Cotton...& you?
Posted by cottonjim on :
I'm gone tommorow and the weekend, so y'all keep my seat warm for me if you don't mind. I gotta go teach some folks how pool is supposed to be played, should be fun!!!!!
Posted by T e x on :
kids: you buy 'em books and buy 'em books... Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Good Cotton...& you?
getting bye, between a rock and the other hting now though.
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: kids: you buy 'em books and buy 'em books...
and all they do is eat the covers, am I the only one thats hungry here? Posted by T e x on :
btw, PQL research supposed to have a b l o g entry on this tomorrow, per SPR...
Posted by cottonjim on :
control the **** words there Tex, fragile ears.
Posted by cottonjim on :
hmmmm, the pichure is getting clearer
Posted by cottonjim on :
I'll reiterate, but I gotta go to bed. Wife will come looking for me soon and since I am leaving for the weekend I better get up th to bed. Night folks, see you next week.
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: I'm gone tommorow and the weekend, so y'all keep my seat warm for me if you don't mind. I gotta go teach some folks how pool is supposed to be played, should be fun!!!!!
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Thank you juice. TMAN...
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: I'll reiterate, but I gotta go to bed. Wife will come looking for me soon and since I am leaving for the weekend I better get up th to bed. Night folks, see you next week.
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: I'm gone tommorow and the weekend, so y'all keep my seat warm for me if you don't mind. I gotta go teach some folks how pool is supposed to be played, should be fun!!!!!
Wish you the best Jim. With the "airport baggage" and the weekend! Cheers
Posted by PCola77 on :
uhhhhhh, I just logged in to my choictrade account and $6500 is missing. they are also now showing 2.5 million shares in my account, and -2.5 million shares on another line.
Did they freeze my $6500 from may sale on Wednesday? Can they do that?
that would suck.
What about the negative shares?
Anyone have any insight? Just logged on to IHUB, but there's too much crap to wade through.
Posted by BooDog on :
wow. I mentioned before about this maybe trading a weeks worth of trades backwards. Wondered if it was even possible. If the shares can't be settled I would think the trade would be nullified. This is my un-edumacated opinion. Call the broker mon.
Good luck P and everyone else.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Glad I could be a guinea pig for your theory Posted by BooDog on :
bummer P.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Oh well. I'm sure it'll get worked out eventually. Worst case scenario is I lose tha t$6,500. I can't imagine that would really happen, but some people on IHub apparently have negative accoutns right now. They always say only trade what you can afford to lose, but if you lose more than in your account, that could potentially be a pretty big deal for some people.
Posted by BooDog on :
so true m8. I would imagine this would be a very good time to have a margin account.
Posted by Malkovich on :
I don't know PC. I sold some on Monday and last Thursday using Ameritrade, and my profits are still there. It also shows the shares I haven't sold yet.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
me too PC. I bought some Wednesday thru ATD and they are still there. TMAN...
Posted by PCola77 on :
yeah, seems like as of now it's just Choicetrade, and just Wednesday transactions. Someone on IHub posted a theory that Penson issued an internal halt, and that some braches/brokers/whatever didn't get it immediately, or didn't act on it, and those trades are being reversed, but it shows that they "bought my shares back" at the price as of close. I don't thikn they could "reverse" my trade by forcing me to buy back higher, I'd think they'd reverse my trade by cancelling it and taking the money tha tI made from that sale back, but you never know.
Posted by glassman on :
anybody hear if they RMed yet?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Yucatan Holdings to Consult With Techlabs, Inc. on a Proposed Tender for the Unregistered Shares of The BigHub.com, Inc.
JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 13 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Yucatan Holdings announced today that it has brokered a deal in principle between The BigHub.com, Inc. (Pinksheets: BHUB) and Techlabs, Inc. (OTCBB: TELA). Techlabs, Inc. plans to forward split its shares one hundred to one and to tender for all unregistered shares issued to investors of BHUB on a one for one basis. Techlabs, Inc. plans to assume the rights and privileges of the shares and intends to pursue all available legal remedies, with The BigHub.com, Inc., against unnamed parties that were in receipt or responsible for the issuance of the unregistered shares attached to BHUB.
In addition, BigHub.com will issue common shares, as yet to be determined, to Techlabs, Inc. as part of this global agreement. The agreement will be subject to registration of the Techlabs, Inc. shares, additional due diligence, and review by the Company's legal counsel.
The BigHub.com, Inc. has provided Techlabs, Inc. with its updated corporate filings which can now be viewed on www.sunbiz.org .
About Techlabs
Techlabs(OTC Bulletin Board: TELA) is a developer of emerging businesses. The Company's primary focus is centered on developing business opportunities in the Caribbean basin and South America. Techlabs has also acquired on March 14, 2007 a 10,000,000 share position with Eline Entertainment Group, Inc. (Pinksheets: EEGI).
Eline Entertainment Group, Inc. through the Company's Storm Depot International subsidiary distributes hurricane protection products, including its proprietary E-Panel, a lightweight translucent hurricane panel, through a network of licensed dealers and independent retailers. The company's dealer outlets offer the public and the contracting trade a one-stop shopping solution for a broad range of hurricane protection and preparedness products.
Eline also holds a controlling interest in the voting securities of CTD Holdings, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: CTDH), which sells cyclodextrins (CDs) and provides consulting services in the area of commercialization of cyclodextrin applications. CDs have applications in the areas of biotechnology, cosmetics, foodstuffs, pharmaceuticals, and toxic waste treatment, among others.
This press release contains forward-looking statements, some of which may relate to Techlabs, Inc. and which involve numerous risks and uncertainties. Actual results, performance or achievements could differ materially from those anticipated in such forward-looking statements as a result of certain factors, including those set forth in Techlabs, Inc.'s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
SOURCE Yucatan Holdings
CONTACT: Yucatan Holdings, +1-267-350-9443 Web site: http://www.sunbiz.org TMAN...
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
This aint gonna work... TELA has 850,000 shares out. That equates to 850mm. They are short 700mm. AND that makes the shares we own at todays price of .14 = .0014. TMAN...
Posted by BooDog on :
tela is doing a forward split 1 - 100.
Posted by PCola77 on :
tman, you are correct about the conversion, but assuming there are still 1.5 bil shares floating around, they will need to be covered, right? Would they then need to be covered as TELA though? In essence, there'd be 1.5 billion (equivalent to 15m tela shares) fraudulent shares of TELA, right?
Posted by BooDog on :
This is TELA's profile from yahoo.... sure doesn't look like the same tela mentioned in the pr does it?
Techlabs, Inc., through its subsidiary, Florida Fountain of Youth Spas, Inc., engages in the ownership and operation of a spa located in South Florida. Its spa offers hormone replacement therapies, electro-magnetic therapy, and sexual enhancement therapies under medical supervision. The spa also has a cosmetic and therapeutic day spa that specializes in body wraps and facials. In addition, the spa sells various over-the-counter diet supplements and vitamins, as well as skin care products, including the Skin Fitness line of products. Further, Techlabs operates the ?Starting Point.com? portal that provides Web searching tools. The company was founded in 1998 under the name Coordinated Physician Services, Inc. and changed its name to Techlabs, Inc. in 1999. Techlabs is based in Knoxville, Tennessee.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
The shares would need to be covered. That is correct. The PR states that TELA would give a 1 to 1 conversion for the bhub shares that are out. The 64000 question is is there only 850mm shares short now or less? There was almost a billion shares traded Monday, so there is a good chance the amount of illegal shares have diminished in the market. interesting to note that tela went to .28. TMAN...
Posted by kermit42 on :
tman, you got the conversion wrong by a zero. They will have 85 million shares, not 850 million (only a 1:100 split).
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Over the whole float has now traded in tela. DAMN!! Its to .32. I got some in the 20s. heheh. TMAN...
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Damnit, my bad kermit. That makes it even more interesting. tela to .35
Posted by PCola77 on :
I was a math major and stiill didn't even notice that error Good catch. I;m in fro some TELA just in case.
quote:Originally posted by kermit42: tman, you got the conversion wrong by a zero. They will have 85 million shares, not 850 million (only a 1:100 split).
Posted by PCola77 on :
Well, either TELA's diluting on this news or there's a decent short problem theer too. It's already traded more than the float, most of it in the last half hour.
Posted by williamjones on :
Will TELA stay up or is the current trading due to daytraders and scalpers reacting - that is will it come back down to .18 (thus bhub being .0018). Whatever the TELA PPS, once trading resumes I think it will plummet as us BHUB holders scramble to sell. Who wants to go through this halt stuff ever again?
Posted by PCola77 on :
Hey will, we get it, you think the stock sucks. Without providing any useful info, there's no reason to keep posting your lamentations.
And BHUB is "worth" .0018 if it was a straightforward R/M. You're assuming the ridiculous 1.5billion share "problem" just vanishes into thin air.
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: Will TELA stay up or is the current trading due to daytraders and scalpers reacting - that is will it come back down to .18 (thus bhub being .0018). Whatever the TELA PPS, once trading resumes I think it will plummet as us BHUB holders scramble to sell. Who wants to go through this halt stuff ever again?
Posted by BooDog on :
hope it works out for you guys. buy and then DD?
okay - just a lil dd... did you notice my previous post about the profile differences from the PR and the profile listed for tela on yahoo? just might be a red flag there. didn't get to the people yet.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Nah, buy and then close your eyes and pray
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: hope it works out for you guys. buy and then DD?
Posted by BooDog on :
"Techlabs, Inc., through its subsidiary, Florida Fountain of Youth Spas, Inc., engages in the ownership and operation of a spa located in South Florida. Its spa offers hormone replacement therapies, electro-magnetic therapy, and sexual enhancement therapies under medical supervision."
good thing it's Friday look out wife! hot tub tonight!
Posted by juice on :
Posted by: gdb81 In reply to: None Date:4/13/2007 3:32:24 PM Post #of 36987
Since BHUB isn't trading, by Monday afternoon every BHUB share will either have been cleared or rejected. The transfer would be an absolute breeze, they could have the new symbol up and running by Wed.
Wonder if this was the t-1 halt reason...
Posted by thesource on :
I am totally confused ........
Posted by williamjones on :
Mr. Jayme Dorrough , 38 Principal Exec. Officer, Chief Financial Officer, Principal Accounting Officer, Sec.
He looks to BE TELA - familiar. See who is the BHUB director. It's a DONE DEAL. Now hows it gonna shake out and where will we be a week or 2 from now.
Posted by juice on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: I am totally confused ........
im with ya on this. I have NO idea whats going to happen and if its going to happen soon even hehe. well guess i'll hold my bhub LOL. 6.6 mill worth Posted by PCola77 on :
Check this out....
I got 10K shares at .28. Immediately put in an orer to sell 7500 at .38 to ride free shares.
The .38 sell just executed, but it never showed up on T&S, only a trade of 10K shares at .38 and 5K shares at .39.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Another company assuming the fraudulent shares?-that is the last thing in the world I would expcect. Wonder if "John Sparrow" has anything to do with TELA?
But- that would leave a large short position on BHUB that they would have to start covering the minute this starts trading again, wouldn't it? Qsip change means squeeze?
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Well, either TELA's diluting on this news or there's a decent short problem theer too. It's already traded more than the float, most of it in the last half hour.
Pcola, I don't think they will dilute, unless they are doing it already- doubtfull. They are assumiing Approx. 1.5b shares. Can't figure it.
??? Jayme Dorrough sounds "VERY" familiar.
Posted by PCola77 on :
By the way, just got an e-mail back from ChoiceTrade thta my money should be back in my account Monday and they have evereything straightened out now.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Their 10k is late and they filed a 10NT. It should be out today, or the latest Monday if TELA's history stays true. That will tell us at least if they have additional shares out as of the day of filing. TMAN...
Posted by BooDog on :
TechLabs Inc. (TELA.OB) ITEM 3.02 UNREGISTERED SALES OF EQUITY SECURITIES.
On November 20, 2006, Techlabs, Inc. (the "Company") and Yucatan Holdings Company entered into an agreement under which Yucatan will convert 133,333 shares of the Company's Class C Preferred Stock into 20,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. No other consideration will be paid in connection with such conversion and issuance.
c. 25,000,000 shares of special preferred stock, par value $.001 per share, of which 12,500,000 shares have been designated Special Class A Preferred Stock, all of which are outstanding. Of these shares, 8,330,000 shares are held by the Company's principal shareholder, Yucatan Holding Company, and the remaining 4,170,000 shares are held by Thomas J. Taule, the Company's former CEO and member of its board of directors. The designations, rights and preferences of the Special Class A Preferred Stock provide:
A lot more about Yucatan in this filing. And the bit about discontinuing the fountain of youth venture. Guess they didn't update yahoo with their new profile.
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: By the way, just got an e-mail back from ChoiceTrade thta my money should be back in my account Monday and they have evereything straightened out now.
VERY cool P
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Checked Florida SOS. They amended their AS to 5 billion back November 2002. TMAN...
Posted by kermit42 on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Well, either TELA's diluting on this news or there's a decent short problem theer too. It's already traded more than the float, most of it in the last half hour.
I was thinking it would be damn funny if the MMs, not having read the PR, saw the surge in volume, reacted as they normally do, and shorted the crap out of TELA.
Kind of like what happened to another stock we know of on March 8.
Posted by williamjones on :
I just read TELA's filings. Not to rain on the parade but TELA is JAYME DORROUGH and Dorrough is BHUB and Yucatan. Further TELA has a string of failed ventures behind it and revenues of $0.
This may get BHUB back to trading but I suggest a through Googling of Ms,. Dorrough is in order. None ZERO NADA of her business ventures have ever worked - something doesn't smell right.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
who cares dude. as long as it allows the people that own shares to get out with something, thats really all that matters to alot of us. I dont care if they ever make a cent, either of them, bhub, a shell company that has made folks money, or tela, that started to make me money today. TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
PCoke, that's good news...
Wow...this is stunning news...MAN, I LOVE a good, deep GEEK PLAY!
Posted by BlackWidow on :
Tex or any other big brain,
This does seem too (good) contrived to actually fly. Too incestuous. Both companies are connected via Jayme Dorroughs. Do you think the SEC will actually let this spin out this way? "IF" the SEC is actually in place for our protection, this circumvents their controls. And it seems they wouldn't like that just on principle. Thanks.
Posted by williamjones on :
I'm stuck with BHUB so I really hope this works but if I can see that it's all just Dorrough playing a shell game then NASD may look at this and say- WHOAAA - hold on there. I hope I am wrong but looks like Dorrough has been succesfull at 1 thing only and that is selling shares.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: I just read TELA's filings. Not to rain on the parade but TELA is JAYME DORROUGH and Dorrough is BHUB and Yucatan. Further TELA has a string of failed ventures behind it and revenues of $0.
This may get BHUB back to trading but I suggest a through Googling of Ms,. Dorrough is in order. None ZERO NADA of her business ventures have ever worked - something doesn't smell right.
yea, they are a "business develop co."LOL Developing ever more ways to steal money. Don't think this will work out as smoothly as they are thinking- but then again...I would be happy if this started a little short squeeze, but I doubt it- seems like this will be drawn out. Also doesn't it seem if Yucatan had been working on this since Nov 6... they would have already pr'd the "working agreement"??
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: I just read TELA's filings. Not to rain on the parade but TELA is JAYME DORROUGH and Dorrough is BHUB and Yucatan. Further TELA has a string of failed ventures behind it and revenues of $0.
This may get BHUB back to trading but I suggest a through Googling of Ms,. Dorrough is in order. None ZERO NADA of her business ventures have ever worked - something doesn't smell right.
yea, they are a "business develop co."LOL Developing ever more ways to steal money. Don't think this will work out as smoothly as they are thinking- but then again...I would be happy if this started a little short squeeze, but I doubt it- seems like this will be drawn out. Also doesn't it seem if Yucatan had been working on this since Nov 6... they would have already pr'd the "working agreement"??
....or something thereof
Posted by williamjones on :
I just hope we get a day or 2 trading out of this so I can get out. While it all sounds fishy to me we got to remember that certainly Peterson is working for shares and he is sort of working on contingency - if he can get BHUB trading again then he can cash in his shares and get paid. ALl the while that BHUB is halted the insiders are stuck also.
I'm gonna hope and assume that in the meeting yesterday with the DTC he got their blessing to do this or they struck this deal:
We'll let you convert BHUB to TELA but you have to take it all fake and real shares so forget suing the TA and the MMs or anyone. In return he gets to get paid.
Sure they said in the PR they will pursue the bad guys but OJ said he would find teh real killers also.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
William, 2 or 3 days of trading is all any of us want I would assume, I know thats all I am hoping for. The thing to look for is the 8k from tela, saying its a done deal and how it is structured ie. restricted shares. (hmmmmm maybe another paiv. lol) another is the price of tela. many will look at that as the true value of bhub. whether it is or not is irrellevent in my mind. Its all about the perception that will make you money in plays like this. This is all MOMO. Everything else is just fluff. Have a great weekend. TMAN...
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackWidow: Tex or any other big brain,
This does seem too (good) contrived to actually fly. Too incestuous. Both companies are connected via Jayme Dorroughs. Do you think the SEC will actually let this spin out this way? "IF" the SEC is actually in place for our protection, this circumvents their controls. And it seems they wouldn't like that just on principle. Thanks.
Possibly the Florida SOS would be interested to know what's going on, doubt they will find out anything though. Looks to me like "Sparrow" had NOTHING to do with this and the BHUB/TELA family had everything to do with it. Proof? nope none nada.... yet. Opportunity - clear as day with a lil pumping here and there spreading rumors about RMs and then bouncing the price. Coincidence that this happened when it did? 20mm shares controlled by bhub through tela dated 20 november? That's a lot of TELA dilution waiting to happen. I wouldn’t be to quick to say bhub was a victim of fraud – sure smells like insider fraud to me. Maybe we are closer to who "Sparrow" really is than we think. Or at least one of them.
Jmo of course
Posted by williamjones on :
I wouldn’t be to quick to say bhub was a victim of fraud – sure smells like insider fraud to me. Maybe we are closer to who "Sparrow" really is than we think.
I think it is pretty clear who sparrow was. My guess is that the DTC hatched this up as a way for Peterson and his crew to get out. Quite generous of them actually. Would have loved to hear that tel call. DTC: here's how your gonna make real the fake shares and you can forget about suing TA's or MMs or anyone. We caught you - now everybody back to trading.
My guess is that we won't hear anything else about Select Transfer or Jack Sparrow. The market will dilute this pig to .0001.
Luck *******
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: [QUOTE]Originally posted by BlackWidow: Tex or any other big brain,
This does seem too (good) contrived to actually fly. Too incestuous. Both companies are connected via Jayme Dorroughs. Do you think the SEC will actually let this spin out this way? "IF" the SEC is actually in place for our protection, this circumvents their controls. And it seems they wouldn't like that just on principle. Thanks.
Possibly the Florida SOS would be interested to know what's going on, doubt they will find out anything though. Looks to me like "Sparrow" had NOTHING to do with this and the BHUB/TELA family had everything to do with it. Proof? nope none nada.... yet. Opportunity - clear as day with a lil pumping here and there spreading rumors about RMs and then bouncing the price. Coincidence that this happened when it did? 20mm shares controlled by bhub through tela dated 20 november? That's a lot of TELA dilution waiting to happen. I wouldn’t be to quick to say bhub was a victim of fraud – sure smells like insider fraud to me. Maybe we are closer to who "Sparrow" really is than we think.
Jmo of course [/QUOTE"
The FBI is investigating- if they had anything to do with it, they are going to JAIL so, no, "sparrow" is the guy- if they are related...??
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by BlackWidow: Tex or any other big brain,
This does seem too (good) contrived to actually fly. Too incestuous. Both companies are connected via Jayme Dorroughs. Do you think the SEC will actually let this spin out this way? "IF" the SEC is actually in place for our protection, this circumvents their controls. And it seems they wouldn't like that just on principle. Thanks.
sorry for the delay--was posting an answer...but then a tornado hit a FEW BLOCKS away
smoked one of my monitors, somehow...
anyway, first a bit of a quibble...this is not an SEC action. True, under this new type of halt, a continuation of 4+ days requires a 15c2-11 response...but I doubt anyone in the trading community understands the width/depth of this new regulatory tool...may alter the landscape of penny trading, for better or ill...
whether it circumvents the intent of the halt is debateable, imo... the halt--even though coded "T1" seems squarely aimed at obtaining control of the unreg shares. As some have suggested, authorities may have "pointed the way" to a market solution... i dunno...remember this, though--protecting "investors" *in* a play is rarely (never ) the point, but instead clamping down on something that may spread exponentially. The "real" point is to "protect the system," imo...
As far as the deal with TELA? again, dunno...
been kinda preoccupied, lol
Posted by BlackWidow on :
Yikes, Tex, so you've been hit by the first wave of the perfect storm? Seriously, (Grey's Anatomy recap last night!) sorry about your monitor. Hope your merrimac is ok.
Yes, I realize the halt wasn't initially a SEC action, just wondered if this would now hit their bells and whistles.
Posted by T e x on :
ya, was a small monitor, no biggee...just pulled one from the bench... but ya...we're ALL OVER the news...one guy I know actually dove for cover from the funnel...didn't get him, but a tree got his truck...
My sense is the SEC *wants* to sit back and let NASD deal with these...hence the "variable response" at NASD's disposal... what a powerful tool! they can now halt pennies for a short period, then say OK, timeout over--as you were... OR they can "suspend," if you will as effectively as the SEC
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: I just read TELA's filings. Not to rain on the parade but TELA is JAYME DORROUGH and Dorrough is BHUB and Yucatan. Further TELA has a string of failed ventures behind it and revenues of $0.
This may get BHUB back to trading but I suggest a through Googling of Ms,. Dorrough is in order. None ZERO NADA of her business ventures have ever worked - something doesn't smell right.
Dude, you have got to be the biggest jackass I've seen post on this board lately. Your posts, like yourself, are full of chit & piss. It is quite obvious that you have no position in this stock, probably because you sold out because you had no balls to let it ride. Get a life and get lost with your 1-star rating.
Posted by williamjones on :
Dude - you must be one gullible dumb jackass if you don't see through this. If you can't figure this out on your own then your gonna ride TELA/BHUB down to .0001. I'm selling mine the first chance I can.
You live in disney land if you buy this story.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
We'll see buddy.
Posted by T e x on :
ok, the "deal"...
my first take is these BHUB guys/Yucatan would not want further regulatory attention if they just pulled the ol' switcheroo and profited from the Sparrow/Wong IDs...
Of course, as we know, con artists believe themselves somehow "bulletproof" and even entitled to returning to the well...
from what I'm seeing, (ie, no links other than those already posted), AS TA seems to be linked to other shady deals, which points away from BHUB/Yucatan. Unfortunately, that does not rule out anything--*if* they pulled a fast one, it's even possible they picked a TA known for either bending the rules OR incompetence.
lol, on the other, other hand...supposedly, allegedly, TELA has new storm-play assets coming on stream. In that sense, the possibility of having shares to trade beats the greys...
fwiw...
for sure, will follow: curiouser and curiouser, etc
Posted by T e x on :
hey, fellas?
none of that junk, eh?
Posted by williamjones on :
Sorry - I was out of line I take it back. Hope this turns out OK for those stuck with BHUB. Nite
Posted by PCola77 on :
Tex, just saw your post just above mine. Let me know if I should remove my post. Don't want to start any trouble, but don't want people to take Willie's posts as that of a "stuck shareholder"
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Tex, just saw your post just above mine. Let me know if I should remove my post. Don't want to start any trouble, but don't want people to take Willie's posts as that of a "stuck shareholder"
lol, was about to PM you, explaining why I deleted your post...
peeps can feel stuck or not, as they choose...just not gonna devolve into muck, here... Posted by PCola77 on :
Understandable. I still think someone's representing themselves as someone that they are not, but I won't name names
Anyway, I'll let it drop.
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Tex, just saw your post just above mine. Let me know if I should remove my post. Don't want to start any trouble, but don't want people to take Willie's posts as that of a "stuck shareholder"
lol, was about to PM you, explaining why I deleted your post...
peeps can feel stuck or not, as they choose...just not gonna devolve into muck, here...
Posted by T e x on :
well, time reveals...and wounds all heels Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: Sorry - I was out of line I take it back. Hope this turns out OK for those stuck with BHUB. Nite
Are you bi-polar? I just wasted about 10-15 minutes of my life going back and reading all your posts on this stock - and have come to the conclusion that you have more waffles than a Waffle House restaurant.
Posted by T e x on :
fellas?
everybody got their shot in, now...lol
let's get back to the play, eh?
Posted by thesource on :
I'm still confused as hell ........
Posted by kermit42 on :
thesource: IMO that's the right place to be. Not enough details to value this yet, but it will get us trading again fairly quick. As a ballpark guesstimate, I'd say there's no chance of us going over a dime anymore. The unregistered shares will become real--instead the right to sue will become an asset of the company. The short will go from something like 100X the float to between 1 and 3X the float.
But that still leaves plenty of squeeze and we're now a hurricane play with some actual retail outlets and we'll uplist to an OTCBB stock.
I'd say pennies is still a legitimate goal. The most important thing is we will trade again, probably in April, and the chance of a total loss just dropped to zero. (Yucutan proposed the deal and they own both companies, so if they want this to happen, it will happen.)
Posted by kermit42 on :
It's important to keep in mind the difference between a healthy skepticism and a conspiracy theory. This is a win-win for shareholders and Yucatan because it immediately cleans up BHUB for sale as a shell, resolves the unregistered share issue without compromising Yucatan's rights, and preserves the short squeeze for everyone.
Posted by williamjones on :
The unregistered shares will become real--instead the right to sue will become an asset of the company. The short will go from something like 100X the float to between 1 and 3X the float. ???? yes this gets us trading agian but I think it is a fantasy to think that the 'right to sue' is an asset. This was a deal provided to the Dorroughs by DTC: We'll put BHUB shares back on the market as TELA but you can forget about suing anyone.
As far as real stores and a hurrican business - they have an agreement in place and that is all. Read the filings at Edgar - TELA has $0 in revenue . If, and when they own Storm Depot, they'll have to file that with the SEC - they do not own it now.
Posted by thesource on :
Hell I'm totally fine with a penny or two . I'm not greedy .
Posted by kermit42 on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: This was a deal provided to the Dorroughs by DTC: We'll put BHUB shares back on the market as TELA but you can forget about suing anyone.
Link please.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: William, 2 or 3 days of trading is all any of us want I would assume, I know thats all I am hoping for. The thing to look for is the 8k from tela, saying its a done deal and how it is structured ie. restricted shares. (hmmmmm maybe another paiv. lol) another is the price of tela. many will look at that as the true value of bhub. whether it is or not is irrellevent in my mind. Its all about the perception that will make you money in plays like this. This is all MOMO. Everything else is just fluff. Have a great weekend. TMAN...
Wouldn't that be cool! Everybody starts buying because TELA is at .38...hahaha
Posted by beechwood on :
Can someone explain why IHub posts this POS as the No.#1 traded stock for Friday when trading was halted on Thursday??? This doesn't lend creedence to IHub's already damaged credibility.
Posted by T e x on :
lol, wrong board to ask...
Posted by cottonjim on :
Just checking in at the hotel buisness center; WOW, it's been kinda busy around BHUB land han't it. Going to be veryinteresting to see how this one plays itself out. Since I haven't been watching for a few day's maybe I can get someones opinion, when do we feel that trading will resume? Is it going to be after the 10 days and under the BHUB symbol, or longer and under the new symbol?
Posted by BooDog on :
It would be a wonder if TELA can actually pull this off imo. gonna be interesting dats for sure.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Just checking in at the hotel buisness center; WOW, it's been kinda busy around BHUB land han't it. Going to be veryinteresting to see how this one plays itself out. Since I haven't been watching for a few day's maybe I can get someones opinion, when do we feel that trading will resume? Is it going to be after the 10 days and under the BHUB symbol, or longer and under the new symbol?
given the share exchange has no legal barriers, it should go ASAP--doubt that's within April, though...
Posted by cottonjim on :
Thanks for the opinion tex. See ya Monday.
Posted by toad4 on :
Beechwood,
BHUB is no 1 on the I-HUB hot stocks board because that is what the most people are talking about....it has nothing to do with if the stock is trading or not.....alot of those posters over there have great info on whats going on....
Posted by BooDog on :
sometimes up to 50 posts in 5 minutes is a lil ridiculous. That's how their board is set though- by number of posts. hard to follow that board and weed through to get the good info and then to add the difficulty of who is even somewhat reliable.
Posted by thesource on :
It is hard to follow but there is also alot more activity on the board and is good during the day because traders are giving up to the minute feedback on it .
Posted by tradinggal on :
Hi, I was just wondering if anyone who has choicetrade and a cash account only, sees that shares purchased on the last day this traded as listed as margin? Mine are and Im confused.
Posted by T e x on :
I'd call 'em...they use Penson, ya know...
Posted by tradinggal on :
yeah, Ill do that Monday, but I guess no one else sees this.
Posted by T e x on :
Maybe those who bought with C-Trade accounts bailed early, on first rumors... of course, it is Sunday, so may be more posting tomorrow..
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: It is hard to follow but there is also alot more activity on the board and is good during the day because traders are giving up to the minute feedback on it .
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Posted by tradinggal on :
There are people on Ihub who see this too, I hope this doesnt turn out to be like PAIM!
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
So at least Jayme is a real person and not another Jack Sparrow
hope this helps
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
Personally i dont see this as a scam. It all adds together. Darrel Peterson, Bhubs CEO, who i believe is doing a great job, is trying to get this stock up and running again. To do this Jamye is the president of Yucatan Holdings (yucatan owns bhub) and also president of TELA. So by going to TELA its basically like BHUB as it was being traded before the halt. In the meantime they will be figuring out the BHUB choas thru court/whatever??
Posted by BooDog on :
you watch my back I'll watch yours kinda thing.
Hope it works out.
Posted by BIG * B*U*C*K*S on :
is this legal??? lol i hope so
Posted by BooDog on :
If you don't dig under the surface it looks just fine. I was surprised how fast someone jumped at the op to bail out BHUB. But my thinking was of a "real" start up company that was somewhat ready to move forward that could use the attention as possitive momo. Might have taken a little longer though. we'll see how this plays out soon enough. imo tela (and holders) will dilute like crazy before the split if it happens.
Posted by Jenna on :
So, are all of you in TELA now too?
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Me is. heheh. I didnt get much but I figured what the heck. TMAN...
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: So, are all of you in TELA now too?
I'm not . I am tapped out for a while . I am waiting for my IRA to transfer over to Etrade so I can start selling covered calls on big stocks .
Posted by PCola77 on :
As I posted earlier, I'm in TELA for 2,500 free shares. Will see what happens Monday and probably decide then what to do with them.
Posted by cottonjim on :
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM Posted by Stockstar69 on :
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Topic: "Yucatan Holdings to Consult With Techlabs, Inc. on a Proposed Tender for the Unregistered Shares of The BigHub.com, Inc."
Viewers and listeners on the internet can catch Traders Nation(tm) and guests at 11:06 am ET.
Posted by SherriT on :
OK - is anyone else in a REALLY foul mood today? I traded BHUB - sold it on the 11th before the halt, and Penson is holding the cash hostage in my account that was used in the trade.....
NOT HAPPY HERE!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: So, are all of you in TELA now too?
I'm not . I am tapped out for a while . I am waiting for my IRA to transfer over to Etrade so I can start selling covered calls on big stocks .
GOOD FOR YOU SOURCE!!
Posted by Jenna on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: OK - is anyone else in a REALLY foul mood today? I traded BHUB - sold it on the 11th before the halt, and Penson is holding the cash hostage in my account that was used in the trade.....
NOT HAPPY HERE!
Is that even LEGAL???? Tex, where are you?
Posted by SherriT on :
I dunno. I just flipped when I saw the difference in my account. They said that Penson is working to clear the problem, but apparently it is happening to any ChoiceTrade customers. They said they would try to give me an update sometime today, if not a final answer.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Anyone seen my buddy - william?
lol
Posted by williamjones on :
Anyone seen my buddy - william? I admit I am new to this board - I have been seeking out alternative MBs to the hype and blabber I read at the Ihub board.
Maybe I need to keep searching.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Sherri, I'm in the same boat. they e-mailed me on Friday saying it would be cleared up by today, which it isn't. I'm not too worried though, it'll get straightened out eventually.
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I dunno. I just flipped when I saw the difference in my account. They said that Penson is working to clear the problem, but apparently it is happening to any ChoiceTrade customers. They said they would try to give me an update sometime today, if not a final answer.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Sherri, I'm in the same boat. they e-mailed me on Friday saying it would be cleared up by today, which it isn't. I'm not too worried though, it'll get straightened out eventually.
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I dunno. I just flipped when I saw the difference in my account. They said that Penson is working to clear the problem, but apparently it is happening to any ChoiceTrade customers. They said they would try to give me an update sometime today, if not a final answer.
I know it will....it just screws with my trading plans that's all Posted by PCola77 on :
by the way Sherri, did you see my post to you on my form 4 thread? if not, can you PM me your e-mail address so i can request your help with some coding?
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: Anyone seen my buddy - william? I admit I am new to this board - I have been seeking out alternative MBs to the hype and blabber I read at the Ihub board.
Maybe I need to keep searching.
Huh? we TRY to keep things honest here without the hype.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by williamjones: Anyone seen my buddy - william? I admit I am new to this board - I have been seeking out alternative MBs to the hype and blabber I read at the Ihub board.
Maybe I need to keep searching.
Oh, I see you're from Ihub. Well that explains your posts then. Okay, I'll leave you alone now. Happy posting! lol
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Traders nation interview on now.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Anything of interest? TMAN...
Posted by cottonjim on :
I couldn't get in on todays Int. Busier than a one legged man in a a$$ kicking contest.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Posted by: m n 1 Saul In reply to: None Date:4/16/2007 3:36:19 PM Post #of 40044
If anyone has info on Select American Transfer, please contact me directly at Market News First. 214.461.3400. Something very big is going on.
My email salbom at m n 1 .com
IM: m n 1 saul
Thanks
Saul
Posted by Jenna on :
WHAT? Cotton, where is that post from?
Posted by T e x on :
i-hub, Jenna...a mod of the BHUB thread started a thread devoted to discussion of Select American, and the *** guy didn't know about it, yet... dunno what the "big deal" is/was...not really following, for awhile...
Posted by cottonjim on :
Yeah, it eas IHUB jenna. I have been trying to follow along but it's such a cluster F I have no clue whats going on, and I consider myself pretty informed on the situation. I would sure like to know what Saul meant by "something very big." Select American is the same TA that PMCL has and their shares have been sold WAY over the float for along time, everyone assumed shorting but in light of this situation, one has to wonder. I hate to speculate but that's all it;s going to be for now so I can't help it. Plus, I am holding a pretty big bag so I have nothing better to do I thought for sure it would keep trading for one more day so I got caught. My fault, all I can do is wait for stuff to resolve now.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Yeah, it eas IHUB jenna. I have been trying to follow along but it's such a cluster F I have no clue whats going on, and I consider myself pretty informed on the situation. I would sure like to know what Saul meant by "something very big." Select American is the same TA that PMCL has and their shares have been sold WAY over the float for along time, everyone assumed shorting but in light of this situation, one has to wonder. I hate to speculate but that's all it;s going to be for now so I can't help it. Plus, I am holding a pretty big bag so I have nothing better to do I thought for sure it would keep trading for one more day so I got caught. My fault, all I can do is wait for stuff to resolve now.
Cotton-
can you get anything out of your "buddy"- about SAT agent? Have got confirmation on a couple of items concerning them- but haven't got confirmation of the confirmation- it just sort of "clammed" up. Have come up with the following names in ref. to BHUB investigation- Jason Wong, Pat Schneider, Clarence Knapp, Ada Knapp, David Watson. Sources "vague"...which is unlike them. Thanks dude!
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: Yeah, it eas IHUB jenna. I have been trying to follow along but it's such a cluster F I have no clue whats going on, and I consider myself pretty informed on the situation. I would sure like to know what Saul meant by "something very big." Select American is the same TA that PMCL has and their shares have been sold WAY over the float for along time, everyone assumed shorting but in light of this situation, one has to wonder. I hate to speculate but that's all it;s going to be for now so I can't help it. Plus, I am holding a pretty big bag so I have nothing better to do I thought for sure it would keep trading for one more day so I got caught. My fault, all I can do is wait for stuff to resolve now.
Cotton-
can you get anything out of your "buddy"- about SAT agent? Have got confirmation on a couple of items concerning them- but haven't got confirmation of the confirmation- it just sort of "clammed" up. Have come up with the following names in ref. to BHUB investigation- Jason Wong, Pat Schneider, Clarence Knapp, Ada Knapp, David Watson. Sources "vague"...which is unlike them. Thanks dude!
I have only talked to him once since the last time, Both he and my other friend were headed for Guantamo today. I don't ask, they don't tell, thats how it is. On a side note, apparently there is some pretty decent fishing around there, and i'll take their word for it. One cool thing, One of them, Dale, got another close friend of ours a flag that has been flown over the base there, certified and all with a really nice display case. He is supposed to be working on getting me one this time around. I am going to check in with him in two weeks when he gets back into Minneapolis.
Posted by Jenna on :
IF & I do mean IF "someone" is investigating the T/A....who would be doing the investigating...the DTCC....the SEC...Saul...LOL?
Posted by SherriT on :
Has anyone gotten past the settlement issue? Mine is still showing as not corrected....
Posted by PCola77 on :
Just sent a follow up e-mail Sherri. I'll let you know if I hear back from them.
Posted by PCola77 on :
I don't like the sound of this.
"Dear Customer, Due to the Global Lock Status placed on the BHUB by the DTC, transactions occurring in this symbol are unable to be settled. Assuming the BHUB transaction can ultimately be settled by the DTC, the proceeds will be credited to your account. We do not have an estimated time amount for this. Thank you."
Here is my latest reply:
"Are you saying that even though I bought and sold a security during a time period when there were no restrictions, and no indication of any forthcoming restrictions, I could potentially just forfeit $6,500? My shares are gone AND my money is gone? Where did the shares go if this is the case? Are they being held also? I'd assume that there is no way that whoever bought my shares would get to keep them AND get their money back, correct?"
I'll post if/when I get a response.
Posted by SherriT on :
I got the same e-mail at the top - word for word...prompted by a chat session I had with them yesterday morning.
I replied with similar questions except I didn't ask about the shares. I told them you have a record that I bought and sold this security on this date, when there were no restrictions, for $X, and I expect to see $X very soon.
I have also tried to call the DTC, but since I don't have a member number, I couldn't get very far. Wonder if the SEC or other governing body could assist us here?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: I don't like the sound of this.
"Dear Customer, Due to the Global Lock Status placed on the BHUB by the DTC, transactions occurring in this symbol are unable to be settled. Assuming the BHUB transaction can ultimately be settled by the DTC, the proceeds will be credited to your account. We do not have an estimated time amount for this. Thank you."
Here is my latest reply:
"Are you saying that even though I bought and sold a security during a time period when there were no restrictions, and no indication of any forthcoming restrictions, I could potentially just forfeit $6,500? My shares are gone AND my money is gone? Where did the shares go if this is the case? Are they being held also? I'd assume that there is no way that whoever bought my shares would get to keep them AND get their money back, correct?"
I'll post if/when I get a response.
PC/Sherri,
Is this Choicetrade for both of you?
Posted by SherriT on :
Yes. I am on chat now. They said the DTC is the problem, and until they release the lock, we can't process anything. I pointed out that I understand all of the confusion and legality of some of the shares, but that if the security was traded legally, then it should be settled legally and THEN sort out the mess.
Posted by SherriT on :
I got someone that seemed to know the scoop. I reiterated that the trades were the day before the lock, so those should be legally settled if they were allowed to be traded. The rep is going to contact the MM about the trades from the 11th and prior to see what is going on. Will post e-mail when I get it...
Posted by PCola77 on :
Thanks Sherri!
yeah Tex, Choicetrade for me too.
Posted by 10of13 on :
add this to the comments from CT...much the same as PC's response...
Dear Customer,
The XZ just represents a restricted symbol. Due to the Global Lock Status placed on the BHUB by the DTC, transactions occurring in this symbol are unable to be settled. Assuming the BHUB transaction can ultimately be settled by the DTC, the proceeds will be credited to your account. We do not have an estimated time amount for this. Thank you.
-- Regards, ChoiceTrade Client Services Toll Free: 877-731-9114 Phone: 732-214-2660 Fax: 732-514-6765 service*choicetrade.com www.choicetrade.com Posted by cottonjim on :
UUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHH, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. A guy tries to get a sane word in edge wise there and it gets totaly ignored because people are to busy yelling about deleted posts and what may or may not be, in their opinion. I think y'all know what I'm talking about. I feel bad for the inexperienced trader who is trying to find any VALUABLE, RELIABLE information about this situation. OK, I feel better now, I will return to my self imposed exile Posted by SherriT on :
We are still investigating the BHUB transactions that took place on 4/11/2007. We appreciate you patience as we work through the problem with our clearing firm.
Thank you.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
By the time you get settling the halt will be over. Not really but it should start trading again next week.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Well that was as helpful as a broken door knob... LOL J/K
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Well they updated me....NOT.
We are still investigating the BHUB transactions that took place on 4/11/2007. We appreciate you patience as we work through the problem with our clearing firm.
Thank you.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Well they updated me....NOT.
We are still investigating the BHUB transactions that took place on 4/11/2007. We appreciate you patience as we work through the problem with our clearing firm.
Thank you.
Actually, I take that as not too bad...sometimes you just get the same wording over and over...acknowledging there is a problem, that is being addressed is good, imo...
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Well they updated me....NOT.
Ms. XXX, that sounds interesting. ROTFLMAO, sorry Sherri, couldn't help it.
I totally missed it too Posted by SherriT on :
Well, I did my morning chat session with CT, and I quote:
"Today's update is that there is no update"
I told the rep I appreciated his honesty, and laughed. I did get a sense of security from his behavior though, and he said that they were confident it would be resolved very soon. I am becoming a fan of the word "very"
FWIW....
Posted by T e x on :
very much appreciate the update...
Posted by cottonjim on :
The BigHub.com, Inc. receives position reports from Depository Trust Company
PR Newswire "US Press Releases "
JENSEN BEACH, Fla., April 18 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The BigHub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB) received position reports from the Depository Trust Company confirming the "uncertified" share position provided by Select American Transfer Company. "This third party confirmation comes directly from the Company that facilitates the clearing of 100% of the share transactions between brokers. Additionally, they are the custodian of all of the BHUB shares held in 'street name,'" stated Darrell Peterson, interim President. He went on to further state, "Any illusion created by Select by virtue of their previous press releases that we were misleading or false in our reporting to shareholders should now be put to rest."
Additionally Mr. Peterson reported that, "We are now working quickly to file actions against parties whom we believe have acted in a reckless and illegal manner, depriving BHUB and its 'shareholders' the ability to conduct business at this exact time." Mr. Peterson continued, "Based on the information received and investigated by the Company we are proceeding with our goal to file an action in Federal Court against all parties involved in the scheme."
As previously announced, The BigHub.com, Inc. was informed by Select American Transfer Company that there were currently 1,580,847,798 shares issued by them and that those shares issued were 1.53 billion shares in excess of the legal authorized shares of the Company. The Company states that these shares are unauthorized shares and unregistered with the Securities and Exchange Commission as required under the Act.
The Company previously announced that it has engaged Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer, Inc. to handle its authorized stock transfers.
The Big Hub.com, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHUB) will continue to review potential business ventures or acquisitions during this process.
SOURCE The BigHub.com, Inc.
Posted by cottonjim on :
So, does this imply that Select American is on the hook for "covering" the un-authorized shares? And if so, is it going to take a judges ruling to get them to cover or can the SEC step in and suspend their activities until they do?
As previously announced, The BigHub.com, Inc. was informed by Select American Transfer Company that there were currently 1,580,847,798 shares issued by them and that those shares issued were 1.53 billion shares in excess of the legal authorized shares of the Company. The Company states that these shares are unauthorized shares and unregistered with the Securities and Exchange Commission as required under the Act.
Posted by T e x on :
dunno SEC's authority/oversight role with TAs; TAs *do* have to register/fingerprint, etc with SEC, as I recall--but according to this, the DTC has merely acknowledged the unregistered shares. They don't have any regulatory authority to "lay blame." They *should* assist NASD/SEC in backtracking the shares' entry into the market, though... At this point, my guess is *some* court gets involved, although perhaps SEC could hold an administrative hearing.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Still, not to sure about this being resolved anytime soon. Kinda sucks, but who knows.
Posted by T e x on :
I imagine that whatever *could* happen soon ... *has* happened. Be interesting to see how this plays out--great story: fake r/m with bogus company; hijacked shares; new NASD tool/penny halt; announced tender from "clean sister shell"; DTC confirmation of unreg shares...
I just hope frozen funds get settled next...
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: I imagine that whatever *could* happen soon ... *has* happened. Be interesting to see how this plays out--great story: fake r/m with bogus company; hijacked shares; new NASD tool/penny halt; announced tender from "clean sister shell"; DTC confirmation of unreg shares...
I just hope frozen funds get settled next...
Amen! Preach on brother Tex! Posted by cottonjim on :
remember this TEX, still hold true??
quote:Originally posted by T e x: this is fun--
DD-freaks, front n' center:
"OK sleuths, sink your teeth into this one..
I got the following email from an acquiantance who is very well versed in shells, and the seamy underbelly of the pink/otcbb market.
"BHUB's easy to fix. A simple court order (cancelling shares) followed with a dividend spin off (I can find a shell to burn for $60,000)...it forces a market cover. Florida law allows the cancellation of bogus shares via a court order. Seen it done a few times. Plus, the offending party would be crazy to contest in court as they could be arrested on the spot."
So the thought being, Yucatan could have their attorneys file a suit for a court order to cancel the billions of fraudulent shares sold by sparrow/wong/Select american. This would leave the brokers that sold the shares into the market completely underwater, and scrambling to make good on the shares they sold.
The Florida statutes relating to securities can be researched here. http://tinyurl.com/2dlpdq I just started looking, but if we can find a statute confirming this, it would be a great head start for yucatan's strategies. Perhaps they're already on the ball here on this, but as far as the market goes, this info would help effect the squeezing of the brokers..
From that link above..
The 2006 Florida Statutes
Title XXXIII REGULATION OF TRADE, COMMERCE, INVESTMENTS, AND SOLICITATIONS Chapter 517 SECURITIES TRANSACTIONS View Entire Chapter
CHAPTER 517
SECURITIES TRANSACTIONS
517.011 Short title.
517.021 Definitions.
517.03 Rulemaking; immunity for acts in conformity with rules.
517.051 Exempt securities.
517.061 Exempt transactions.
517.07 Registration of securities.
517.072 Viatical settlement investments.
517.075 Cuba, prospectus disclosure of doing business with, required.
517.081 Registration procedure.
517.082 Notification registration.
517.101 Consent to service.
517.111 Revocation or denial of registration of securities.
517.12 Registration of dealers, associated persons, investment advisers, and branch offices.
517.1201 Notice filing requirements for federal covered advisers.
517.1203 Allocation and disbursement of assessment fees.
517.1205 Registration of associated persons specific as to securities dealer, investment adviser, or federal covered adviser identified at time of registration approval.
517.121 Books and records requirements; examinations.
517.1215 Requirements, rules of conduct, and prohibited business practices for investment advisors and their associated persons.
517.1217 Rules of conduct and prohibited business practices for dealers and their associated persons.
517.122 Arbitration.
517.131 Securities Guaranty Fund.
517.141 Payment from the fund.
517.151 Investments of the fund.
517.161 Revocation, denial, or suspension of registration of dealer, investment adviser, associated person, or branch office.
ya, I remember...interesting development today: apparently BCIT individual shareholders are receiving summons in notice of a suit seeking declaratory judgdment. Has some confused to be named as defendant, but a declaratory judgment is (bold, my emphasis) "[a] court decision in a civil case that tells the parties what their rights and responsibilities are, without awarding damages or ordering them to do anything. Unlike most court cases, where the plaintiff asks for damages or other court orders, the plaintiff in a declaratory judgment case simply wants the court to resolve an uncertainty so that it can avoid serious legal trouble in the future. Courts are usually reluctant to hear declaratory judgment cases, preferring to wait until there has been a measurable loss. But especially in cases involving important constitutional rights, courts will step in to clarify the legal landscape. For example, many cities regulate the right to assemble by requiring permits to hold a parade. A disappointed applicant who thinks the decision-making process is unconstitutional might hold his parade anyway and challenge the ordinance after he’s cited; or he might ask a court beforehand to rule on the constitutionality of the law. By going to court, the applicant may avoid a messy confrontation with the city -- and perhaps a citation, as well."
My mail runs later, and I'm about to go on a service call, so I won't know whether I have one until this evening.
Curiouser and curiouser...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Does anyone have an opinion on this-- Why would BHUB not file to cancel "fraud" shares? Why would TELA (who they have been in dealings with since "November '06") agree to assume those shares for the "right to sue" In most cases- of which restitution is ordered- it takes years to realize. I just don't understand why BHUB wouldn't want to clear all this up,and make the broker/dealer's cover at the same time? Very fishy that they would take the complicated way out, when they could have cleared this in District Court in about 1 hr. Also, didn't Darrell say he was going to pursue this without involving the SEC? But, in truth, it went through the SEC "FIRST", and "NOW" he is going to court. Just doesn't smell right in my opinion.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Don't have AMTD so I can't confirm anything here FWIW. Can anyone else?
IHUB Posted by: inman11 In reply to: None Post #of 41032
JUST FYI Dont know if anyone has posted this or can confirm this, but i just got off the phone with amtd and they said that there was a restriction on anyones account that had a bhub position in it. that restriction will be lifted in 10-15 minutes as everything has been resolved. I asked when it would resume trading. He stated that it could be as early as tomorrow but was still hesitant on giving me a date. Hopefully someone else has some more info
Posted by SherriT on :
I don't have AMTD either, but no change in ChoiceTrade....sorry I can't confirm!
Posted by cottonjim on :
I have a pretty hard time believing that AMTD would know any better than us, when BHUB resumes trading. THey may have just cleared up their mess with peoples settled funds or something, but not lifting the trade halt. IMO
Posted by SherriT on :
That is what I was hoping for personally....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: Does anyone have an opinion on this-- Why would BHUB not file to cancel "fraud" shares? Why would TELA (who they have been in dealings with since "November '06") agree to assume those shares for the "right to sue" In most cases- of which restitution is ordered- it takes years to realize. I just don't understand why BHUB wouldn't want to clear all this up,and make the broker/dealer's cover at the same time? Very fishy that they would take the complicated way out, when they could have cleared this in District Court in about 1 hr. Also, didn't Darrell say he was going to pursue this without involving the SEC? But, in truth, it went through the SEC "FIRST", and "NOW" he is going to court. Just doesn't smell right in my opinion.
who says they're not filing? They've now got DTC recognition of unreg shares...
TELA/BHUB same management; TELA trades BB: the spin there is throw a bone to stuckholders with freebies in "clean" BB with rumors of acquisitions. Any CEO can say whatever they want about SEC getting involved or not getting involved...won't matter to the SEC, so this CEO is at least consistent in that regard...
Anyway, the development in my book is the BCIT case...see above.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: I have a pretty hard time believing that AMTD would know any better than us, when BHUB resumes trading. THey may have just cleared up their mess with peoples settled funds or something, but not lifting the trade halt. IMO
talent at most brokerages is spotty...if that person *does* know something about thawing funds, no reason to believe he/she would know anything concrete about NASD halt lifting...might easily be simply something to say to an agitated client...
anyway, got my fingers crossed...back later
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Tex, I agree this will probably end up like BCIT...in the end. Also, I never stated "they weren't filing" What I am trying to understand- is why they would incumber TELA with this mess, if they were already in "talks" with BHUB---REGARDLESS of the "sister" relationship?
Posted by ZeroCool on :
One more tidbit-- does anybody see .000_'s coming when this starts trading again?
Posted by cottonjim on :
If they would have lifted the hault shortly after todays PR there may have been alot of buying and a rise in PPS. BUT, if and when this does start trading again, the selloff is going to be legendary IMO and it will let the short positions cover at the lowest of low prices. .000's are on the horizon IMO, but i hope not, I like my money.
Posted by T e x on :
"if they were already in "talks" with BHUB---REGARDLESS of the "sister" relationship?
who is "they" ?
Posted by BooDog on :
"Additionally Mr. Peterson reported that, "We are now working quickly to file actions against parties whom we believe have acted in a reckless and illegal manner, depriving BHUB and its 'shareholders' the ability to conduct business at this exact time." Mr. Peterson continued, "Based on the information received and investigated by the Company we are proceeding with our goal to file an action in Federal Court against all parties involved in the scheme."
Looks like a carefully worded PR saying they claim not to have any idea who the "party" is that is responsible for the unreg shares. BHUB from this pr does NOT hold SAT responsible. Possibly this "party" is John Sparrow. I would have expected a better job of pointing the finger. TELA did what I thought it would do by bringing their pps down and is keeping pretty quiet now. I do hope that all works out but there are some major red flags waving all over the place. jmho.
Posted by kermit42 on :
Boo, that statement looks lawyered up to me. It was careful not to say anything specific, but that doesn't mean they don't have specific ideas of who is responsible or who they will go after.
Posted by T e x on :
IF, notice the emphasis, if this has parallels to BCIT beyond the obvious, I imagine whoever's closest to letting those unreg shares into the market is already contemplating pitching a deal to cover. For sure, somebody's wearing a crosshairs-shirt; the Wong/Sparrow IDs may hard to ascertain, but prolly the authorities have already determined the market-entry point.
Posted by BooDog on :
Should be some inerestin fireworks Tex. Fer sure.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "if they were already in "talks" with BHUB---REGARDLESS of the "sister" relationship?
who is "they" ?
TELA- who do you think?!? Did you not know TELA was in talks with BHUB since Nov. '06 per there PR? I thought you kept up with all that.(sarcasm)
TEX-- are you here to converse and share ideas and information with people?? Or are you here to let everybody know you have been here the longest, and you are the smartest, and you are the coolest, and you are the only person who knows exactly evrything?
Ya know what man, I apologize for asking you anything. It won't happen again. Please don't respond to my posts, and I will not respond to yours.
Posted by SherriT on :
OK folks...we tried this with CSHD, and it at least brought some attention on it. Anyone for writing letters to Congressmen and Senators? We have a leg to stand on here....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "if they were already in "talks" with BHUB---REGARDLESS of the "sister" relationship?
who is "they" ?
TELA- who do you think?!? Did you not know TELA was in talks with BHUB since Nov. '06 per there PR? I thought you kept up with all that.(sarcasm)
TEX-- are you here to converse and share ideas and information with people?? Or are you here to let everybody know you have been here the longest, and you are the smartest, and you are the coolest, and you are the only person who knows exactly evrything?
Ya know what man, I apologize for asking you anything. It won't happen again. Please don't respond to my posts, and I will not respond to yours.
lol, who bit yer apple?
I simply didn't understand the pronoun reference.
and, no, btw--haven't been here the longest, for sure don't "know everything" ...but ya, I *am* the coolest Posted by PCola77 on :
You can't be the coolest, the other guy even has "cool" in his name.
quote:Originally posted by T e x: I *am* the coolest
Posted by SherriT on :
LOL! You guys Posted by PCola77 on :
I'm illiterate. Can you write it for me, and I'll sign an "X" at the bottom?
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: OK folks...we tried this with CSHD, and it at least brought some attention on it. Anyone for writing letters to Congressmen and Senators? We have a leg to stand on here....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: You can't be the coolest, the other guy even has "cool" in his name.
quote:Originally posted by T e x: I *am* the coolest
and I can't the be Cola-est, either, wahhh Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: "if they were already in "talks" with BHUB---REGARDLESS of the "sister" relationship?
who is "they" ?
TELA- who do you think?!? Did you not know TELA was in talks with BHUB since Nov. '06 per there PR? I thought you kept up with all that.(sarcasm)
TEX-- are you here to converse and share ideas and information with people?? Or are you here to let everybody know you have been here the longest, and you are the smartest, and you are the coolest, and you are the only person who knows exactly evrything?
Ya know what man, I apologize for asking you anything. It won't happen again. Please don't respond to my posts, and I will not respond to yours.
lol, who bit yer apple?
I simply didn't understand the pronoun reference.
and, no, btw--haven't been here the longest, for sure don't "know everything" ...but ya, I *am* the coolest
TEX--REDEEMED!!! Humor heals all for me, forgive my "rant". Mis-understood ya. Can't wait for VoIp on this board. Nuances hard to recognize.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
COTTON- where are ya, buddy?
My connect. is indisposed. Do ya think you can verify something with your Fed. buddy? That- Select under criminal investigation, and Sparrow listed as alias on warrant??
That damn Darrell Peterson returned my call and I had my phone turned off. Tagged him back, and should hear from him in a couple of days.
So, anybody have any questions to ask him- I'll relay, and post answers.
I don't think it needs to be said, but I will- no questions that you know he can't answer specifically.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Boy, walking on egg shells this morning!! LMAO
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: I'm illiterate. Can you write it for me, and I'll sign an "X" at the bottom?
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: OK folks...we tried this with CSHD, and it at least brought some attention on it. Anyone for writing letters to Congressmen and Senators? We have a leg to stand on here....
WAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! i'm in with the X too. chit like this gives my other scam pinks a bad rap!
Posted by cottonjim on :
GOt an e-mail back from him this morning. I was trying to press him for more info and he told me he can't tell me anything more without risking getting himself into trouble. I have to respect that. He did tell me to go with my gut because it's "probably" right. Now i gotta figure out what my gut thinks.
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: COTTON- where are ya, buddy?
My connect. is indisposed. Do ya think you can verify something with your Fed. buddy? That- Select under criminal investigation, and Sparrow listed as alias on warrant??
That damn Darrell Peterson returned my call and I had my phone turned off. Tagged him back, and should hear from him in a couple of days.
So, anybody have any questions to ask him- I'll relay, and post answers.
I don't think it needs to be said, but I will- no questions that you know he can't answer specifically.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Cotton, thanks for trying- I understand and respect that also. He's right- 9 out of 10 times- the gut is right. Thanks dude.
Posted by ZeroCool on :
...Now i gotta figure out what my gut thinks.
me too. let me know when ya do. 2 "gut's" are better than one!LOL
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: OK folks...we tried this with CSHD, and it at least brought some attention on it. Anyone for writing letters to Congressmen and Senators? We have a leg to stand on here....
Sherri, I think to document everything, be best to "follow the trail," ie, get a written response from broker(s), then whomever they mention, if any, then from NASD, and so on...Then you have a record of being polite, going through the proper steps, etc... make sense?
Posted by BooDog on :
cool Tex... kinda like a chain of command eh?
Posted by PCola77 on :
What if the chain consists of being a beligerent a**hole? Should I refrain from sending those to everyone?
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: OK folks...we tried this with CSHD, and it at least brought some attention on it. Anyone for writing letters to Congressmen and Senators? We have a leg to stand on here....
Sherri, I think to document everything, be best to "follow the trail," ie, get a written response from broker(s), then whomever they mention, if any, then from NASD, and so on...Then you have a record of being polite, going through the proper steps, etc... make sense?
Posted by cottonjim on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ZeroCool: ...Now i gotta figure out what my gut thinks.
me too. let me know when ya do. 2 "gut's" are better than one!LOL [/QUOTE
So far, I know i'm hungry so we're making progress
Posted by cottonjim on :
Let me see if I am getting this straight, the BCIT share holders are being sued by the CEO over the issuance of counterfeight shares? WTF. I didn't read the whole story so correct me if I missed something.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: What if the chain consists of being a beligerent a**hole? Should I refrain from sending those to everyone?
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: OK folks...we tried this with CSHD, and it at least brought some attention on it. Anyone for writing letters to Congressmen and Senators? We have a leg to stand on here....
Sherri, I think to document everything, be best to "follow the trail," ie, get a written response from broker(s), then whomever they mention, if any, then from NASD, and so on...Then you have a record of being polite, going through the proper steps, etc... make sense?
LOL - I'm not saying to be beligerent...yet. I'm doing the polite way and have attempted to work up the chain of command. I think we have two different fights going here. Those who still have shares and those who don't. IMHO, those who sold should have their trades settled and be done with the BHUB mess. I've said it many times....if it traded at all, you have an expectation of that trade settling. The shares, bogus or not, were traded....if the SEC or whomever didn't halt it before, they have no standing to hold our money hostage. There is absolutely no reason they can't settle the trades prior to the halt and THEN untangle the real shares vs. bogus shares, who to blame, et al.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Sherri, i agree completely. Think about it this way, if the trade doesn't get settled, the what happens? Whoever bought our shares gets their money back? that would be ridiculous. It would be the first time I've ever heard of someone getting a "do-over" in the stock market because something didn't turn out well.
Posted by SherriT on :
I have to say I question the legality of them holding the settled proceeds this long...
Posted by PCola77 on :
Not sure if this is comforting or disconcerting:
"This is the first time we have seen this happen and it does not make sense why the funds are not given back even though the position was sold before the halt. Please bear with us"
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Not sure if this is comforting or disconcerting:
"This is the first time we have seen this happen and it does not make sense why the funds are not given back even though the position was sold before the halt. Please bear with us"
I vote comforting...was that from ChoiceTrade?
Posted by PCola77 on :
Yes'm.
My e-mail to them was "> I understand that you're probably getting crushed with concerns about > this, but here is my question. I think the answer is obvious, and the > solution should be as well. > > I sold my stock. That means that someone else bought it. If there is an > issue with clearing, and somehow it is determined that I do NOT get my > money back, where does that money go? Is the person on the other end of > the transaction just lucky in that their stock got halted but THEY get > their money back, while mine vanishes into thin air? I've never seen a > case where someone has lost money in the market only to see a third party > come in and say "You know what, you shouldn't have bought that stock, > we'll give you your money back and let you have a do over." I think you'd > have to agree that that would NEVER happen. > > In other words, all transaction that occurred before the stock was halted > HAVE to go through, if there is an issue with the shares that are out > there, I don't see how it applies to me at all, since I don't OWN shares > anymore."
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Not sure if this is comforting or disconcerting:
"This is the first time we have seen this happen and it does not make sense why the funds are not given back even though the position was sold before the halt. Please bear with us"
I vote comforting...was that from ChoiceTrade?
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Allright, Just got off the phone with Darrell Peterson. In the middle of organizing questions and answers- sorry, had to short hand. Gimme a minute.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Yes'm.
My e-mail to them was "> I understand that you're probably getting crushed with concerns about > this, but here is my question. I think the answer is obvious, and the > solution should be as well. > > I sold my stock. That means that someone else bought it. If there is an > issue with clearing, and somehow it is determined that I do NOT get my > money back, where does that money go? Is the person on the other end of > the transaction just lucky in that their stock got halted but THEY get > their money back, while mine vanishes into thin air? I've never seen a > case where someone has lost money in the market only to see a third party > come in and say "You know what, you shouldn't have bought that stock, > we'll give you your money back and let you have a do over." I think you'd > have to agree that that would NEVER happen. > > In other words, all transaction that occurred before the stock was halted > HAVE to go through, if there is an issue with the shares that are out > there, I don't see how it applies to me at all, since I don't OWN shares > anymore."
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Not sure if this is comforting or disconcerting:
"This is the first time we have seen this happen and it does not make sense why the funds are not given back even though the position was sold before the halt. Please bear with us"
I vote comforting...was that from ChoiceTrade?
good work...sounds like more progress to me
by the way, guys...you may have mentioned this already, but be sure to print all correspondence, etc, just in case...
Posted by PCola77 on :
haven't printed anything, but never delete e-mails. It's my company's storage problem, not mine
quote:Originally posted by T e x: good work...sounds like more progress to me
by the way, guys...you may have mentioned this already, but be sure to print all correspondence, etc, just in case...
Posted by cottonjim on :
Must of been a 'ell of a long conversation, or your having a hard time reading your short hand, lol. WHats the scoop zero.
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool: Allright, Just got off the phone with Darrell Peterson. In the middle of organizing questions and answers- sorry, had to short hand. Gimme a minute.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Maybe he has the same problem as PC? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by PCola77: I'm illiterate. Can you write it for me, and I'll sign an "X" at the bottom?
J/K Zero... Posted by ZeroCool on :
Posted by ZeroCool on :
I spoke with Mr. Peterson for about a half hour- I didn't address him in a Q&A fashion, rather like a good ole' neighbor.(I have condo's in his city) Let me start by saying- he is a very likeable guy, very laid back.
1) He is pursuing in Florida Federal District Court. 2)He will meet Monday with his attorney, and the SEC attorney in Ft. Lauderdale for a strategy meeting.(wouldn't elaborate) 3)He could not really have the "fakes" court ordered "cancelled", QOUTE; "b'cause they have not determined who would be responsible for the buy-in, and did not want to drag this out like BCIT." 4)Reason for transferring "right to sue" to TELA--"we want this to be trading again, as soon as possible". Also, Bhub was dormant, with no attention really, until March. ...now we are getting over 500,000 hits daily.(not sure if he was talking about his website or IHub?) Which has brought alot of attention to Bhub- but before they were ready to pursue Bhub at the end of the year. Therefore deciding to capitalize on BHUB's new public conciousness.
Mr. Peterson also elaborated the following; only one or two million shares traded a month- if that- prior to March 8th. From there, Mr. Peterson, checked out IHUB, noticed a post--"Bhub, hot deal towards end of March" He contacted the poster as a "shareholder" to ask him about it- which lead him to Cyberhand.(I won't post person's name at Ihub, but will PM those who want it) He then contacted Select American Transfer to get a list of shares issued, after receiving that list- "accidently"- from an employee, the same employee told him "she got in trouble for giving it to him" to which he replied, "the transfer agent had already agreed to deliver it within a couple days" That did not sit right with him.
He also explained- a Mr. Reals(spelling??) had called him posing as an investor- and would not comment on the conversation- but Mr. Peterson was already aware of who Mr. Reals was.LOL
Currently, Mr. Peterson believes SAT is party to the fraud- and through his investigation- has identified "34" companies involved in this scam. Stating- "our first priority is discovering the initial co. that brought the shares into the market". Unfortunately- ..."there are many alias' associated with this crime". As for criminal and Sec violations- "we believe they have violated the Patriot Act, Reg D, S-1, etc. Asked what he would like to say to shareholder's on allstocks bb- "Please be patient, hopfully we won't do anything wrong, while we proceed methodically toward a resolution"
Well, that's all the pertinent infofrom our conversation. I would like to say- Mr. Peterson comes across very level headed and determined. And by his own word's- "I don't like the lime-light, just give me my pay check"
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Maybe he has the same problem as PC? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by PCola77: I'm illiterate. Can you write it for me, and I'll sign an "X" at the bottom?
J/K Zero...
LOL... sorry man, got hungry, then fiance' called. Yea, I'm PW
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
GUTTER BALL! Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: GUTTER BALL!
How so? I wasn't expecting anything that would scream "HOT NEWS HERE" Were you?
My whole objective in speaking to him- was to find out why they wouldn't force a buy-in. And I am totally excited about his answer. The rest is just more copy for the BHUB tale.
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
THE WAY I SEE IT THESE THINGS NEVER TURN OUT WELL FOR THE INVESTER,JMO, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR POST. Posted by cottonjim on :
<-------*making whipping noises* LMAO, I've been there Zero, gotta keep them happy. Remember, there are 5 rules when finding a girl friend/ fiance. Rule #1 Find a woman who's company enjoy and you share mutual activities.
Rule #2 Find a woman who knows how to cook a great meal and enjoys doing so.
Rule #3 Find a woman who can keep a clean household and enloys doing so.
Rule #4 Find a woman who enjoys sex with you on a regular, frequent basis.
Rule #5 This is the most important rule. Make sure these 4 women never meet.
ROTFLMAO
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Maybe he has the same problem as PC? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by PCola77: I'm illiterate. Can you write it for me, and I'll sign an "X" at the bottom?
quote:Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY: I WAY I SEE IT THESE THINGS NEVER TURN OUT WELL FOR THE INVESTER,JMO, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR POST.
Sorry Imake, and I agree, but who knows?
Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: <-------*making whipping noises* LMAO, I've been there Zero, gotta keep them happy. Remember, there are 5 rules when finding a girl friend/ fiance. Rule #1 Find a woman who's company enjoy and you share mutual activities.
Rule #2 Find a woman who knows how to cook a great meal and enjoys doing so.
Rule #3 Find a woman who can keep a clean household and enloys doing so.
Rule #4 Find a woman who enjoys sex with you on a regular, frequent basis.
Rule #5 This is the most important rule. Make sure these 4 women never meet.
ROTFLMAO
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Maybe he has the same problem as PC? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by PCola77: I'm illiterate. Can you write it for me, and I'll sign an "X" at the bottom?
Cotton- you always keep it funny! My brother!
Posted by Jenna on :
Zero- thanks for making that call!!! It takes guts to get involved like that & then post the info....5 stars for you sir!!! Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: <-------*making whipping noises* LMAO, I've been there Zero, gotta keep them happy. Remember, there are 5 rules when finding a girl friend/ fiance. Rule #1 Find a woman who's company enjoy and you share mutual activities.
Rule #2 Find a woman who knows how to cook a great meal and enjoys doing so.
Rule #3 Find a woman who can keep a clean household and enloys doing so.
Rule #4 Find a woman who enjoys sex with you on a regular, frequent basis.
Rule #5 This is the most important rule. Make sure these 4 women never meet.
ROTFLMAO
quote:Originally posted by ZeroCool:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Maybe he has the same problem as PC? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by PCola77: I'm illiterate. Can you write it for me, and I'll sign an "X" at the bottom?
Sad thing is? Very true - could compose something similar for husbands as well. You forgot #5 - find a woman who enjoys the working world and can bring home the bacon as well (or better) than you can Posted by ZeroCool on :
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Zero- thanks for making that call!!! It takes guts to get involved like that & then post the info....5 stars for you sir!!!
Jenna-- thanks for the compliment, but i probably wouldn't use the word "guts"- more like the word "I got 5m free rider's, and I'm trying to figure out my play so I don't throw a "gutter ball"(Imake Slang.lol)"...or some other word that means the same thing. LOL
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Also,I just remembered something that I didn't write down; Mr. Peterson stated that; "before all of this happened, I didn't have anything to do with TELA". Which would deny my earlier posts of skepticm, and "smells fishy" comments- I apologize to all who gave those comments weight.
I would like to say- I have high confidence in Darrell Peterson, regardless of the outcome- I feel he is honestly concerned about BHUB and it's shareholder's.
That being said- anybody have an opinion on the seperation of shares BHUB/TELA?
Posted by BooDog on :
very interesting Zero. Surprised about the disconnect with TELA. doesn't canx the possibility of following through with the PR share buy out but raises an eyebrow. you want normal low risk your in the wrong place that's for sure. not directed at you Zero - just had to get it off my brain. i still can't rule out bhub themselves had something to do with this whole mess. I was remembering as a kid sitting around the campfire sharing wild stories, possibly this story was shared in a similar setting and someone figured out how to make it happen.
Thanks for sharing your conversation. If it works out and BHUB can move forward and make a company out of this, great for all. Just being able to have the option to get out and move on would be great also. we'll see.
Don't forget the big question - where did the ADVANCED GROWING SYSTEMS, INC come from.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: haven't printed anything, but never delete e-mails. It's my company's storage problem, not mine
quote:Originally posted by T e x: good work...sounds like more progress to me
by the way, guys...you may have mentioned this already, but be sure to print all correspondence, etc, just in case...
not talking about that, PC, but a crash--would at least dupe 'em onto a jump drive
Posted by T e x on :
zero posts:
quote:4)Reason for transferring "right to sue" to TELA--"we want this to be trading again, as soon as possible". Also, Bhub was dormant, with no attention really, until March. ...now we are getting over 500,000 hits daily.(not sure if he was talking about his website or IHub?) Which has brought alot of attention to Bhub- but before they were ready to pursue Bhub at the end of the year. Therefore deciding to capitalize on BHUB's new public conciousness.
yup, that's the thinking, and pretty much what you were asking me about when we got our wires crossed. To get BHUB trading again, supposedly CEO was advised that an MM would have a tough go getting form 211 accepted as long the unreg shares are not cleared up. Supposedly, TELA is a clean, reporting BB (I hedge here not to insinuate anything negative, but because I have not checked that out myself) and so has more options.
The TA in question is most likely under severe scrutiny--last I knew (I think I posted this ???) ihub has a BHUB-"spin-off" thread devoted solely to Select American.
Boo? not ruling out company involvment is wise, imo--multiple working hypotheses: Who's to say "Sparrow/Wong" weren't hatched within Yucatan? That being said, Select American has some pretty heavy circumstantial evidence against them...
Posted by ZeroCool on :
Boo? not ruling out company involvment is wise, imo--multiple working hypotheses: Who's to say "Sparrow/Wong" weren't hatched within Yucatan? That being said, Select American has some pretty heavy circumstantial evidence against them... [/QB][/QUOTE]
Tex- I want the answer to that also, I just didn't know any clever questions to ask without alienating Darrell.LOL I do however believe-- this could probably not have been accomplished without some inside knowledge. Just a conspiracy theory...but at this point- it's just another to add to the list.LOL
Posted by BooDog on :
gut in-stinks
lol
Posted by SherriT on :
Well, I just got another e-mail from ChoiceTrade that indicates no time frame at all for resolution. Time for the letters to congressmen and senators...here is mine (and I am including a copy of the most recent e-mail):
************************************************** Dear Honorable Senator Blah Blah Blah:
Sir, I hope this letter finds you well. I wanted to contact you regarding a securities issue that is affecting many citizens across the country. BigHub.com (BHUB) has been the victim of fraud in that an unrelated party (including but not limited to Select American Transfer) filed papers which effectively introduced fraudulent shares into the market. In doing so, trading occurred for several days on these shares, and the result has been a trading halt which went into effect on Thursday, April 12, 2007.
While I sympathize with those investors left holding worthless shares, my concern is related to the settlement of trades which occurred in the days just before the halt. Upon opening my brokerage account on the morning of Monday, April 16, 2007, I discovered that my account was missing over one thousand dollars. Naturally, I contacted the broker to correct the mistake. At that time, I learned that Penson Financial Services was unable to settle the trades that occurred on Wednesday, April 11, 2007, due to a global lock placed on the security by the DTC, Depository Trust Company.
I understand that crimes of this nature often take some time to straighten out, however, in my opinion, if the security was traded at all, those trades have to be settled in the appropriate time frame of three business days. At this moment, I have neither the cash nor the shares showing in my account. The shares were sold, implying another individual or entity bought them, and as such, I am entitled to the proceeds of that transaction. The fact that my broker (ChoiceTrade) cannot credit my funds is preventing me from doing any further trading using that capital, which I use to generate income for my family, and it also caused me to liquidate other securities which I bought with the BHUB proceeds prior to the settlement.
In short, my complaint is simply that there should be a rule in place, if not already, that prevents a lock on settlement of trades. Any assistance you can provide in the form of legislation to protect future victims, or pressure that can be brought to bear upon the DTC to settle those trades occurring prior to the halt would be most appreciated. For your reference, I am enclosing the latest e-mail I have received from ChoiceTrade regarding this issue.
Sincerely,
Me
Posted by T e x on :
Sherri, keep us updated...would like to see the reply.
Posted by SherriT on :
I mailed off one to each of my senators and my US Congressman...we shall see....my bet is on the Congressman first, Senator Shelby second, and Senator Sessions won't do a darn thing.
Wish I could trade stocks on that info....10X for sure Posted by T e x on :
I think it's great for "the elected" to become aware of how many people are migrating to trading/investing...maybe someday we can afford a lobbyist! lol
OK, since you're betting, I bet you get a "thank you, we've passed it on" and then finally a response from Banking & Finance, with a *hint* of doing something, but mostly blah blah.
Don't get me wrong--as I say, I think it's great to make them aware of "our growing community."
Posted by SherriT on :
Actually? I have contacted my electeds twice in my lifetime (other than this one). The first time it was just the Senators, and Sessions did a big nothing, Shelby got me what I needed and within a reasonable time frame. The second time was with the CSHD fiasco...enbarrassed I fell for that, but hey, again, Bonner (the congressman) was the most effective, Shelby was a very close second, and Sessions gave some B.S. excuse.
But then, maybe it is time for them to do nothing....will be surprised...benefits of living in a less populated state.
Night all!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Actually? I have contacted my electeds twice in my lifetime (other than this one). The first time it was just the Senators, and Sessions did a big nothing, Shelby got me what I needed and within a reasonable time frame. The second time was with the CSHD fiasco...enbarrassed I fell for that, but hey, again, Bonner (the congressman) was the most effective, Shelby was a very close second, and Sessions gave some B.S. excuse.
But then, maybe it is time for them to do nothing....will be surprised...benefits of living in a less populated state.
Night all!
you're going to bed, now?
lol...have fun!
Posted by BooDog on :
"you're going to bed, now?
lol...have fun!"
Real nice weekend to work on those "to do" lists. Darn exhausting though dat's for sure! speakin for myself. getting ready to work on some rock gardens and ponds.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: "you're going to bed, now?
lol...have fun!"
Real nice weekend to work on those "to do" lists. Darn exhausting though dat's for sure! speakin for myself. getting ready to work on some rock gardens and ponds.
Actually no, I just meant that I was getting off the computer Posted by T e x on :
ohhh... Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: ohhh...
Now Tex, are we so conventional that we have to go to bed for that stuff? Posted by kermit42 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: ohhh...
Now Tex, are we so conventional that we have to go to bed for that stuff?
OK! 5 stars for you!!!
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: ohhh...
Now Tex, are we so conventional that we have to go to bed for that stuff?
Maybe you really are Ms.XXX, how did choicetrade know? ROTFLMAO
Posted by Sally77 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I mailed off one to each of my senators and my US Congressman...we shall see....my bet is on the Congressman first, Senator Shelby second, and Senator Sessions won't do a darn thing.
Wish I could trade stocks on that info....10X for sure
SherriT you are from my neck of the woods....
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Sally77:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I mailed off one to each of my senators and my US Congressman...we shall see....my bet is on the Congressman first, Senator Shelby second, and Senator Sessions won't do a darn thing.
Wish I could trade stocks on that info....10X for sure
SherriT you are from my neck of the woods....
Must be - no one else in the country would catch those names - Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: ohhh...
Now Tex, are we so conventional that we have to go to bed for that stuff?
Maybe you really are Ms.XXX, how did choicetrade know? ROTFLMAO
LOL - no, but my husband would certainly appreciate the encouragement...but really...particularly after you have been married a while...
Posted by Sally77 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Sally77:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I mailed off one to each of my senators and my US Congressman...we shall see....my bet is on the Congressman first, Senator Shelby second, and Senator Sessions won't do a darn thing.
Wish I could trade stocks on that info....10X for sure
SherriT you are from my neck of the woods....
Must be - no one else in the country would catch those names -
You got a pretty safe bet there though on Sessions. Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Sally77:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Sally77:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I mailed off one to each of my senators and my US Congressman...we shall see....my bet is on the Congressman first, Senator Shelby second, and Senator Sessions won't do a darn thing.
Wish I could trade stocks on that info....10X for sure
SherriT you are from my neck of the woods....
Must be - no one else in the country would catch those names -
You got a pretty safe bet there though on Sessions.
Absolutely. Worst part about it is that his excuses are completely see-through.
Posted by Sally77 on :
Darn politicians!
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: ohhh...
Now Tex, are we so conventional that we have to go to bed for that stuff?
Maybe you really are Ms.XXX, how did choicetrade know? ROTFLMAO
LOL - no, but my husband would certainly appreciate the encouragement...but really...particularly after you have been married a while...
I know sherri, I have been married long enough to know that the only thing I am getting at noon when I go home for lunch is a sandwich, not for a lack of trying of course Posted by Jenna on :
Anything new with this one?.....
Oh well, RATS!!!!!!!!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Thanks for the reminder...Should come of the 10 day halt any day, right?
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Thanks for the reminder...Should come of the 10 day halt any day, right?
I really hadn't thought about it, but if it does come off the halt, I would think they would have to start settling trades again....
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Nothing today, maybe tomorrow.
Posted by SherriT on :
Technically Thursday would be 10 market days, so it could be then or Friday I would think....
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Technically Thursday would be 10 market days, so it could be then or Friday I would think....
It was halted on the 12th so wouldn't Wednesday be the last day of the halt and it resumes trading on Thursday?
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Technically Thursday would be 10 market days, so it could be then or Friday I would think....
It was halted on the 12th so wouldn't Wednesday be the last day of the halt and it resumes trading on Thursday?
The 12th was a Thursday - wasn't quite sure how they would count it, but I would think Thursday it would resume as well.
Posted by SherriT on :
I just talked to ChoiceTrade again for my daily "update" - LOL - and they said if it does come off the halt, then yes, the DTC would automatically start settling trades again.
I think their reps have been absolutely hammered with people....I told them I felt almost as sorry for them, and they didn't have money tied up...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Good, looks like Thursdays the day.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Is this POS gonna trade tommorow?
Posted by SherriT on :
Hope so. I'm ready for the DTC to hand over my cash.
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Me too....I want to buy more CSHD..........LOL
Posted by SherriT on :
LMAO - yeah, thought I had been smart this time and dumped prior to the halt and NOW I don't have shares or money - go figure...
Fingers crossed for the AM!
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: LMAO - yeah, thought I had been smart this time and dumped prior to the halt and NOW I don't have shares or money - go figure...
Fingers crossed for the AM!
hahaaaaa LOL yeah i thought i was being smart by getting in before it went bullistick like HVLN, PAVC , i still am holdin but no more than i can afford to lose Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
it jist fu(&in pisses me off that there are 1.5 billion shares shorted , and it gets halted , BULL ,,friggin,, sh1t
Posted by dollar13 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Me too....I want to buy more CSHD..........LOL
USXP IS CHEAPER
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I just talked to ChoiceTrade again for my daily "update" - LOL - and they said if it does come off the halt, then yes, the DTC would automatically start settling trades again.
I think their reps have been absolutely hammered with people....I told them I felt almost as sorry for them, and they didn't have money tied up...
unlikely that the Choicetrade rep knows what DTC might or might not do... for one, according to the rule NASD invoked, 10 days is the limit for the halt...ie, it can't *not* "come off" said halt. Whether DTC lifts its notice is a separate question...
***********
btw, Sherri--earlier? assumed the phrase you used was merely a euphemism... Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Me too....I want to buy more CSHD..........LOL
Funny you should mention that LOL. See the latest?
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Me too....I want to buy more CSHD..........LOL
USXP IS CHEAPER
LOL - Good one dollar. Just for that I'll buy 1/2 CSHD and 1/2 USXP.
I'll bet you $100 I'll make more money in CSHD. It may take a while though Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
If I am reading a T.3 Halt code correctly, I think we may begin trading today as of 7:00am 4-26-07.
Yep - Greys (at least that is my understanding....if you aren't halted, isn't that where you go if no MMs are signed back on?)
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
YEP. I am curious though, when CKYS went grey, the price per share was updated on my TDA account. This one isnt. Maybe it aint trading??? TMAN...
Posted by BooDog on :
sounds right to me. I don't have any so i didn't call. wonder if TELAE will show her feathers. seems like a lot of companies are getting the "E" lately.
Posted by madmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: YEP. I am curious though, when CKYS went grey, the price per share was updated on my TDA account. This one isnt. Maybe it aint trading??? TMAN...
that`s correct, it is not trading YET! could open on greysheets any day now.
Posted by retiredat49 on :
BHUB trading now...pps .0001
Posted by SherriT on :
Good to hear - that means at least within three days I SHOULD see my cash Posted by 10of13 on :
Oh yeah! Posted by 10of13 on :
I attempted to put an order in through CT...and I get..."trading not available"
Posted by retiredat49 on :
AMTD won't accept trades in this yet...only 1 trade for 10k shares at .0001
Posted by Chris4205 on :
Down 96% on only 10,000 shares traded?
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Chris4205: Down 96% on only 10,000 shares traded?
Welcome to the greys....sorry Chris....
Posted by Chris4205 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Chris4205: Down 96% on only 10,000 shares traded?
Welcome to the greys....sorry Chris....
Thanks Sherri,
Looks like I am not the only one that got stuck with this fiasco.
Posted by madmoney on :
I have real time level 2 quotes and i dont see any trades! says OTCBB - PINKS - closed. is there a new symbol?? what am i missing here?? I have this on historicle time and sales??----- 14:44:24 10000 0.0001 OTCEQ_NBB
Posted by kermit42 on :
It ain't much of a trade, but it is a trade.
10,000 X .0001 = $1.00
L O Oops
Posted by madmoney on :
this is NOT trading as far as i can see, that was some kind of closed market trade, between brokers??? it did not show up on my level 2 streamer
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Chris4205:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Chris4205: Down 96% on only 10,000 shares traded?
Welcome to the greys....sorry Chris....
Thanks Sherri,
Looks like I am not the only one that got stuck with this fiasco.
No, there are usually plenty of folks. Take comfort that this isn't quite like CSHD. We were at $2 and got halted....resuming on the greys wasn't pretty there either...
Posted by Chris4205 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Chris4205:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Chris4205: Down 96% on only 10,000 shares traded?
Welcome to the greys....sorry Chris....
Thanks Sherri,
Looks like I am not the only one that got stuck with this fiasco.
No, there are usually plenty of folks. Take comfort that this isn't quite like CSHD. We were at $2 and got halted....resuming on the greys wasn't pretty there either...
I am having quite a bad year. lol Other than PXIT.
According to Etrade it is an error and has not resumed trading. Hopefully they are correct.
Posted by thesource on :
Whats up with this crappy stock . I'm showing the .0001 trade on Etrade as well but with only 10K shares seems to bull crap . I think it might be an error . It doesn't appear to be trading even on the grey market .
Posted by 10of13 on :
My question would be...even if this were to trade...would it be worth it for anyone to sell? I mean...funds from the sell of this stock BEFORE the halt aren't even "settled" yet...
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: My question would be...even if this were to trade...would it be worth it for anyone to sell? I mean...funds from the sell of this stock BEFORE the halt aren't even "settled" yet...
<------ EXHIBIT A
Posted by 10of13 on :
reminds me of a song.. Where oh where has my money(dog) gone? Oh where oh where can it be? with its profit(tail) cut short and it's debt (ears) cut long...oh where oh where can it be?! Oh bring back my money to me...to me! You get the point! Posted by retiredat49 on :
Well here's the scoop on TELA
TELAE (.15)
Thursday, April 26 2007 4:18 PM, GMT-05:00
Techlabs To Be Traded on OTC Pink Sheets
PR Newswire "US Press Releases "
JENSEN BEACH , Fla., April 26 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Techlabs, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: TELAE) announced today that it has been notified by the NASD that pursuant to rule 6530(e), the Company's common stock is ineligible for continued quotation on the OTC Bulletin Board due to a failure to file timely reports three times over a 24 month period. The Company was further notified that its common stock will be ineligible for quotation on the OTC Bulletin Board for a period of one year. Accordingly, effective April 27, 2007, the Company's common stock will trade under its symbol TELA. The Company noted that it is presently current in all of its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and intends to continue to be a reporting company under all applicable SEC rules and regulations.
The Company further noted the recent four day delay in filing it's 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 2006 was due to material events that occurred subsequent to the year end and which were fully reported in Note 12, as contained in that filing. Because the Company does not believe that the pending change in the quotation of its common stock to The Pink Sheets will impair trading in its securities or its future plans, it does not intend to pursue its right of appeal concerning the matter but would rather concentrate on its current efforts and make application to the OTC Bulletin Board again in one year.
Techlabs is a developer of emerging businesses. The Company's primary focus is centered on developing business opportunities in the Caribbean basin and South America.
For further information regarding the company, contact Techlabs, Inc. at (267) 350-9210.
This press release contains forward-looking statements, some of which may relate to Techlabs, Inc. and which involve numerous risks and uncertainties. Actual results, performance or achievements could differ materially from those anticipated in such forward-looking statements as a result of certain factors, including those set forth in Techlabs, Inc.'s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
SOURCE TechLabs, Inc.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: My question would be...even if this were to trade...would it be worth it for anyone to sell? I mean...funds from the sell of this stock BEFORE the halt aren't even "settled" yet...
trading similar to post-suspension BCIT (which had similar unreg shares questions, of course), and even post-suspension GVRP in some regards...MMs can trade for their own accounts I believe, so you'll see junk like that $1 trade...paintin' da tape, basically...maybe covering...I imagine DTC will require more than a PR saying the unreg shares/lawsuit have been acquired by TELA(E) before they provide clearing services again...
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Scottrade has removed the # off of BHUB and recognizes yesterday's trade at .0001
bid 26 ask 27
Sells not allowed for this security as of 9:18am
Posted by thesource on :
*** Etrade notice ***
Trading is halted on this security Non-equity, bulletin board, OTC, pink sheet and other specific securities are not eligible for the price type you have specified
Posted by thesource on :
Bank of America took my sell order at .0065 Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Bank of America took my sell order at .0065
Are you serious??
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Bank of America took my sell order at .0065
I assume that is a pending order and it didn't execute?
Posted by Jenna on :
What was this at before the halt? I don't even remember....
Posted by retiredat49 on :
.0026
Posted by Jenna on :
Ok - thanks retiredat49....
Posted by retiredat49 on :
You bet Jenna
Posted by 10of13 on :
choice still won't accept mine... Let's see if at the end of the day BOA kicks it back...
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Bank of America took my sell order at .0065
Posted by Jenna on :
How weird........
Posted by BooDog on :
BHUB -- BigHub.com, Inc. (THE) Com ($0.001) Primary Venue: Nasdaq Bulletin Board
whooo!! go bhub!!!
Posted by Jenna on :
Boo- what??? Tell me what that means? Can't be...
Posted by BooDog on :
nasdaq is who shut them down remember?
sorry for the spook jenna.
pink sheets has this listed as nasdaq bulliten boards - should be no quote or Primary Venue: Other OTC?? maybe pinks will straighten it out.
Posted by BooDog on :
this went past the 4 day rule so it should be on the greys
Posted by thesource on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Bank of America took my sell order at .0065
I assume that is a pending order and it didn't execute?
Its still an open order but wasn't kicked back or pending . I just checked about 2 minutes ago .
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource:
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006:
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Bank of America took my sell order at .0065
I assume that is a pending order and it didn't execute?
Its still an open order but wasn't kicked back or pending . I just checked about 2 minutes ago .
OHHHH I thought you meant it executed the order. That makes more sense....
Posted by thesource on :
Hell no I wish it was executed . I just figured if it traded on the greys today maybe someone would hit it by chance .
Posted by PCola77 on :
When I saw your "Are you serious??" post from this morning, I typed "I think he means they accepted it, not that it executed.", but then I erased it and said to myself, "She's not that dumb, she must have just been excited that he could enter it." Guess you are that dumb
By the way, did you get my e-mail from last night? Did it explain the Form 4 program well enough?
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: OHHHH I thought you meant it executed the order. That makes more sense....
Posted by Jenna on :
PC!!! Did you feel that? I hope that hurt...I just cyber-kicked you in the dodge-ballz for talking to Sher-Bear like that....LOL Posted by PCola77 on :
Haha, just saw this post. And to think I called you a crazy chick on the CSHD thread BEFORE i saw this
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: PC!!! Did you feel that? I hope that hurt...I just cyber-kicked you in the dodge-ballz for talking to Sher-Bear like that....LOL
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: When I saw your "Are you serious??" post from this morning, I typed "I think he means they accepted it, not that it executed.", but then I erased it and said to myself, "She's not that dumb, she must have just been excited that he could enter it." Guess you are that dumb
By the way, did you get my e-mail from last night? Did it explain the Form 4 program well enough?
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: OHHHH I thought you meant it executed the order. That makes more sense....
In Southern speak, "took" = "executed". I know better now....I was hoping for my friends still holding that it was true anyway
Thanks for getting my back, Jenna!
I got your e-mail, but haven't had a chance to try it again. I think I have already tried what you suggested though - I am bombing when it tries to import...that is why I was asking for one specific page so I could go to it through a browser rather than the import to see what I am pulling....
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
So I know you guys cant see the future, but what does everyone think will happen with this stock? For example, I mean, will it start trading at .0001 like my Scottrade account says, trans into another company TEVA (I think it was), or something different.
Also, do you think that everyone will sell when it does start trading again? Will you?
One more thing...since this is shorted SO much...what is the PPS that it should be at in everyones opinion?
Posted by thesource on :
At this point all we can do is guess ........ I don't think anyone really knows where we will open up at or if we will open up anytime soon .
Posted by T e x on :
gun to my head? I'd have to guess grey-limbo for *at least* a few months...more likely several...and some degree of probability of never fully trading again...
Remember, "Mr. Clean" BB-listed TELA was gonna be the "out" and fade the heat? well, they got the really dreaded "E," the one before getting bumped off the BB for too many missed filings. So they're now pink... Not saying the situation can't be rehabilitated, but, wow, sure has gone south, overall...
As far as valuation, the play was always the race between a "real" squeeze/perceived squeeze vs the potential for suspension, which turned out be a new kind of halt, which *can be* equivalent to a suspension...lol--PENNYLAND! Anyway, what's a shell worth? What's a shell "with baggage" worth? Dressed up in Sunday-go-to-meeting clothes, with an impressive suitor? who knows... At this point, that's a long row to hoe, I'm thinking...
Posted by BooDog on :
TELA
keep telling my daughter that we can get a discount on car insurance if she is honor roll or better (not a problem of course but...) if you get an "E" it fks it all UP!!
Posted by Hitman on :
been watching this one. not sure yet
Posted by retiredat49 on :
Pretty profound statement there Hitman...care to elaborate? lol
Posted by SherriT on :
Anyone heard anything new? I can't believe they are still not settling the transactions PRIOR to the halt....
Posted by T e x on :
That sux...have you asked them how they *can* hold it before some ruling must be made, one way or the other?
Posted by SherriT on :
Yes, I have - and I also included that in my letters to two senator and one congressman....that I could not find a rule that allowed a stock to trade and not be settled within the three days.
Posted by T e x on :
what did they say when you asked about how long they can hold it?
Posted by SherriT on :
No response....of course, I was dealing with the broker because I couldn't get any answers out of the DTC since I am not a direct customer. I suspect that the electeds will start asking questions though....
Posted by cottonjim on :
Am i rich yet??? No, OK I will check back in a few weeks. This Sux
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: No response....of course, I was dealing with the broker because I couldn't get any answers out of the DTC since I am not a direct customer. I suspect that the electeds will start asking questions though....
no...of course, uunderstood re DTCC nexus...but it seems to me the broker(s) *must* reply as to how long they keep someone in limbo...
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: No response....of course, I was dealing with the broker because I couldn't get any answers out of the DTC since I am not a direct customer. I suspect that the electeds will start asking questions though....
no...of course, uunderstood re DTCC nexus...but it seems to me the broker(s) *must* reply as to how long they keep someone in limbo...
I just went to the broker and specifically asked for a rule, and they could not give me one. They said that the DTCC has the authority to not settle the trades, and that unfortunately, it was really between BigHub.com and the DTCC as to when they would start settling those trades. I was looking for contact info on BHUB (since I already know the DTCC won't tell me jack)...may try to get an update out of them.
Posted by IamtheWalrus on :
Unfortunately we all bent over for this one...I have only a few hundred in this one...but I feel for some chap on iHub that put tens of thousands in this...whatta drag! On the back burner..with a twinkling in my eye
We can only wait and see.
Posted by beechwood on :
Don't fall for the hype. The run is done. Subpoenas are flying. People will pay huge fines and/or go to jail over this mess. Let the MM's lick their wounds. Don't give em a chance to recoup their loss at YOUR expense. I made 400% in a coupla weeks and happy to leave it at that.
Posted by Jenna on :
This is bullcrack....
Posted by Jenna on :
Lottery Ticket...MY ASprin!!! (trying not to swear)....
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sherri...there's a 3 day settlement time for all stocks...and we sold it only the day before the halt...so it wasn't 3 days...Yes it sucks...but not a damn thing we can do!
Posted by PCola77 on :
but 10, the issue is, we don't have the shares OR our money. If someone esle has our shares, then we should have their money, if the someone else still has their money, than WE shoudl still have our sahres. They can't have it both ways. just doesn't make sense.
Posted by BooDog on :
I'm surprised TELAe is even still trading.
good luck to all.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sherri...there's a 3 day settlement time for all stocks...and we sold it only the day before the halt...so it wasn't 3 days...Yes it sucks...but not a damn thing we can do!
Oh I know the part about three days BUT a halt on trading is usually not a halt on settlement....think about CSHD? This is really a rare circumstance....even ChoiceTrade was talking about that aspect of it.
Posted by cottonjim on :
TORONTO -- (MARKET WIRE) -- May 07, 2007 -- Select American Stock Transfer announced today a corporate restructure of its ownership and executive management following recent allegations involving a former client of the firm.
Select American Stock Transfer was acquired by FJ Consultants Inc., a consulting firm wholly owned by Jackie Rossel, who will take on the role of President at Select American Transfer effective immediately and whereby Mr. Nathan Rogers has resigned from all offices held at the company. The company has also begun the process of relocating its offices to the TD Canada Trust Tower on Bay Street in Toronto as well as changing its name to Fairross Stock Transfer Company. The move is expected to be completed within the following 3 weeks.
The company has also immediately implemented a series of new control and compliance measures to assure the utmost standards in securities transfer and registrar as well as the implementation of a secured online transfer platform, which will enable issuer clients to receive shareholder list, control logs and many other important reports on a real-time basis.
Highlighted Links The MacReport.Net
Fairross Stock Transfer
"We are very satisfied with the transition and we will continue to service our clients without any interruptions and with the superior customer service they expect," said Jackie Rossel, President of Select American Transfer. "We will be contacting all of our clients over the next 3 weeks to not only reassure them on a smooth transition, but to also begin a review of all outstanding files and pending issues," further added Ms. Rossel.
Posted by cottonjim on :
So why in the world would this happen if Select American was innocent of any wrong doing? HMMMMMMMMM
Posted by kermit42 on :
I'm unclear how it affects us short-term, but it sure sounds like an admission of guilt to me.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Me too!!! Why would our ole buddy Nathan pull up stakes if he and his company wasnt compromised. Things that make you go hmmmm. TMAN...
Posted by T e x on :
wow...
really wow...
Posted by SherriT on :
I just want someone to "WOW" my 1100 dollars back into my account.
THAT would make me say WOW....
Posted by cottonjim on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: wow...
really wow...
Tex, tell us what you "really" think. LMAO
Posted by PCola77 on :
I'd prefer if they WOW'd it up a few bags first
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I just want someone to "WOW" my 1100 dollars back into my account.
THAT would make me say WOW....
Posted by T e x on :
is big ol' huge deal, imo...
I hope DOJ/FBI etc is all over it.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Wonder how this'll play out. Sure is a first for me.
Posted by 10of13 on :
PCola...I think its the first for most of us... Something needs to change in the market...there are crooks EVERY WHERE!!!!
Posted by juice on :
wow think it'll really be a while until we see something happen here. I really hope damages are being sought after for this... Select is SO guilty!! This P/R confirms shady actions on their part, but what the heck happens from here?? I'd like most if not all my money back here please. I have a huge profit tied up..... Posted by Jenna on :
Has anyone seen our money yet?....What did you say?....No?....Ok...I will check back again next week....
Posted by dollar13 on :
YEAH
WHATS UP WITH THIS ONE??????
Posted by T e x on :
a buncha stuff--basically who really owns what: will try to summarize this weekend, or early next week
Posted by cottonjim on :
Did anyone notice this yesterday? I was gone most of the day so I didn't. Is the TELA deal still a possibility for BHUB? If so, this still doesn't cover the shares they need does it? What the crap is the PPS going to look like after the split but before the BHUB deal? .10 now so .01 after and .0001 after the BHUB thing??? Am I being to pesimistic?
JENSEN BEACH, Fla., May 16, 2007 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Techlabs, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: TELA.PK) today announced today that its Board of Directors has declared a ten-for-one forward stock split of its issued and outstanding common stock. The record date for the forward split will be May 31, 2007 and the anticipated effective date will be June 1, 2007. Techlabs will provide supplemental information as to the new CUSIP number as the effective date of the forward stock split nears. Techlabs is a developer of emerging businesses. The Company recently reported that it reached an agreement in principle to license the Storm Depot International name logo and related materials from Eline Entertainment Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets: EEGI). This agreement represents the development of a business strategy whereby Techlabs, Inc. through a wholly owned subsidiary, will begin to market the Storm Depot concept through a franchise system.
For further information regarding the company, contact Techlabs, Inc. at (267) 350-9210.
This press release contains forward-looking statements, some of which may relate to Techlabs, Inc. and which involve numerous risks and uncertainties. Actual results, performance or achievements could differ materially from those anticipated in such forward-looking statements as a result of certain factors, including those set forth in Techlabs, Inc.'s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:IN THE MATTER OF JASON WONG, DAVID WATSON, NATHAN ROGERS, AMY GILES, JOHN SPARROW, KERVIN FINDLAY, LEASESMART, INC., ADVANCED GROWING SYSTEMS, INC., PHARM CONTROL LTD., THE BIGHUB.COM, INC., UNIVERSAL SEISMIC ASSOCIATES INC., POCKETOP CORPORATION, ASIA TELECOM LTD., INTERNATIONAL ENERGY LTD., CAMBRIDGE RESOURCES CORPORATION, NUTRIONE CORPORATION AND SELECT AMERICAN TRANSFER CO
Interesting... Thanks Tex. I may be making a phone call tomorrow if I can fit it in.
Posted by SherriT on :
Anyone else got their money out of purgatory yet?
Posted by 10of13 on :
I am thinking mine has gone straight to hell!
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Anyone else got their money out of purgatory yet?
Posted by T e x on :
hopeably, attention from reg authorities will help free up your funds...not timely, unfortunately, but perhaps eventually... ask for interest, too...
Posted by PCola77 on :
Bump, just to remind myself to call about this next week when work slows down...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I was wondering what was going on with this crazy BHUB?
Like I need another headache...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:As BigHub and Select American were blasting away at each other, the Depository Trust Company (DTC), the U.S. behemoth with subsidiaries that provide essential market services such as clearing, lumbered into action.
On April 11, the DTC issued a notice that it was suspending all services with the exception of custody services for BigHub and warned its participants "to take whatever precautions are necessary to protect themselves and their customers."
That effectively brought an end to trading in BigHub shares, but the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) followed up with its own trading halt on April 12.
While the trading at least temporarily stopped on April 11, the BigHub drama continued.
Posted by thesource on :
So whats the deal with this huge steamy pile of dung ???
Posted by PCola77 on :
It's just steaming away.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Starting to get hard and crusty and turning white on the ends...yuk, LMAO
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by thesource: So whats the deal with this huge steamy pile of dung ???
short answer--did you read the article?--is everything's up in the air... Not clear that Yucatan is rightful owner, less clear Wong/Sparrow entities have been up to. It *needs* investigating...
Posted by stocktrader2006 on :
Anyone know what is going on with this turdpile?
Will this ever trade again?
Posted by PCola77 on :
Thanks for the reminder. I'm going to try to make a phone call or two today and see if I can get any info. In particular, how, and for how long can they hold the money that I made when I sold the day before the halt, that they said didn't settle in time. Wondering how they can keep my shares AND money...
I'll also try to figure out if there's any estimated timeframe for things to proceed.
Posted by 5times1 on :
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Thanks for the reminder. I'm going to try to make a phone call or two today and see if I can get any info. In particular, how, and for how long can they hold the money that I made when I sold the day before the halt, that they said didn't settle in time. Wondering how they can keep my shares AND money...
I'll also try to figure out if there's any estimated timeframe for things to proceed.
Sorry if you posted earlier but who do you use, I used Scottrade and sold the day of the halt and I got my money on time, that doesnt make sense that yours is still being held.
Posted by juice on :
ive heard we will trade again in the coming weeks, not sure how soon or how lol so I can't really elaborate on that... in any case should see news coming very soon. watch the wires.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Really?? I was under the impression that people who sold the day before or of had their funds withheld. Interesting. I guess I'll be giving Choicetrade a call now too...
quote:Originally posted by 5times1:
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Thanks for the reminder. I'm going to try to make a phone call or two today and see if I can get any info. In particular, how, and for how long can they hold the money that I made when I sold the day before the halt, that they said didn't settle in time. Wondering how they can keep my shares AND money...
I'll also try to figure out if there's any estimated timeframe for things to proceed.
Sorry if you posted earlier but who do you use, I used Scottrade and sold the day of the halt and I got my money on time, that doesnt make sense that yours is still being held.
Posted by PCola77 on :
C'mon man, wtf kind of update is that?!?!!
quote:Originally posted by juice: ive heard we will trade again in the coming weeks, not sure how soon or how lol so I can't really elaborate on that... in any case should see news coming very soon. watch the wires.
Posted by beechwood on :
I made some big gains on the first run. Had no problem cashing in on a 4x bagger and my funds settled w/o a hitch. I sat the second run out cause I figured something was fishy when it ran to .007 Looks like I was right. To many of you had your funds frozen and are still waiting for your money. Rotsa Ruck! Bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaugggggggterrrred!!!!!!!
Posted by kermit42 on :
thebighub.com
Art2Gecko on IHUB says PR soon, trading within a few weeks (Art generally knows what he's talking about--at least on the PR).
Maybe/maybe not, but the website is new (and still under construction).
Posted by PCola77 on :
I won;t complain about how I did. Bought at .0007 sold half at .0014 (I may be off by a decimal point) and sold a little bit here and there. Exited almost all the way the day BEFORE the halt. They took my shares and my money. Not sure how they can do it, but I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.
quote:Originally posted by beechwood: I made some big gains on the first run. Had no problem cashing in on a 4x bagger and my funds settled w/o a hitch. I sat the second run out cause I figured something was fishy when it ran to .007 Looks like I was right. To many of you had your funds frozen and are still waiting for your money. Rotsa Ruck! Bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaugggggggterrrred!!!!!!!
Posted by stockcop on :
I sold day before and re-invested in something else same day. Did not have any problems.
Posted by kermit42 on :
The BigHub.com, Inc. Starts New Web Site
JENSEN BEACH, Fla., June 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The BigHub.com, Inc. (OTCPK: BHUB) announced today that it has started a website initially for corporate purposes. The website address is: www.thebhub.com. "This site is going to be a work in progress as the Company develops its corporate goals and purpose," stated Darrell Peterson, Interim President. "The website is obviously not a final product but will evolve as we develop and communicate management's goals and objectives. The site is intended to contain corporate information as well as developing commercial opportunities in the internet space," Mr. Peterson further added.
Additionally, the Company stated that it has been in contact with the Ontario Securities Commission regarding recent and planned hearings concerning The BigHub.com, Inc. as well as Select American Transfer, Leasesmart, Advanced Growing Systems, Inc. , Pharm Control, Pocketop Corporation, Asia Telecom, Nutrione Corporation, Jason Wong, David Watson, Nathan Rogers, John Sparrow et al. The Company's corporate counsel plans to be in contact directly with the Commission with regard to the status of The BigHub.com, Inc. The next planned hearing is June 25, 2007.
Finally, the Company is progressing in its efforts to regain listing on the OTC Pinksheets and plans to be submitting documentation and a plan to the Depository Trust and NASD over the next 30 days. At the same time the Company plans to file legal actions against parties regarding the issuance of shares of Company during the last two years.
Safe Harbor: This press release contains forward-looking information within the meaning of section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and is subject to the Safe Harbor created by those sections. This material contains statements about expected future events and/or financial results that are forward-looking in nature and subject to risks and uncertainties. Such forward-looking statements by definition involve risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause the actual results, performance or achievements of The BigHub.com, Inc. to be materially different from the statements made herein.
SOURCE The BigHub.com, Inc.
CONTACT: Darrell Peterson, Interim President of The BigHub.com, Inc., +1-267-350-9443 Web site: http://www.thebhub.com Posted by juice on :
well, my source was right. this is 1 of em... should be 1 or 2 more updates on their way stay tuned....
Posted by PCola77 on :
Scottrade is now showing a price of N/A (as opposed to .0001 that it was previously showing) Anyone else seeing the same or something else with other brokers?
Posted by kermit42 on :
Ameritrade unchanged at .0001. Choicetrade shows a trading value of 0.00, but a portfolio value based on the .0001 of old.
Posted by atleast on :
20 Queen St. W. Box 55, Suite 1900 Toronto, ON M5H 3S8 Commission des valeurs mobilières de l'Ontario FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 26, 2007
IN THE MATTER OF THE SECURITIES ACT R.S.O. 1990, C. S.5, AS AMENDED
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IN THE MATTER OF DAVID WATSON, NATHAN ROGERS, AMY GILES, JOHN SPARROW, LEASESMART, INC., ADVANCED GROWING SYSTEMS, INC. (a Florida corporation), PHARM CONTROL LTD., THE BIGHUB.COM, INC., UNIVERSAL SEISMIC ASSOCIATES INC., POCKETOP CORPORATION, ASIA TELECOM LTD., INTERNATIONAL ENERGY LTD., CAMBRIDGE RESOURCES CORPORATION, NUTRIONE CORPORATION AND SELECT AMERICAN TRANSFER CO.
TORONTO – Following a hearing held yesterday in the above noted matter, the Commission ordered that:
the hearing to extend the June 1st Order is adjourned until September 28, 2007 at 10:00 a.m.;
the title of proceedings shall be amended by removing the names of Jason Wong and Kervin Findlay; and
pursuant to subsection 127 (8) of the Act, the June 1st Order is extended as against the parties named in the title of proceedings in this Order until September 28, 2007 or until further order of the Commission. A copy of the Order is available at www.osc.gov.on.ca
OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY JOHN P. STEVENSON SECRETARY
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For media inquiries: Wendy Dey Director, Communications & Public Affairs 416-593-8120
Laurie Gillett Manager, Public Affairs 416-595-8913
For Investor Inquiries: OSC Contact Centre 416-593-8314 1-877-785-1555 (Toll Free)
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
WTF??????? Does anyone else show this trading? TDA shows two trades and its up to .0005. TMAN...
Posted by kermit42 on :
Yes. No MMs, but 2 trades. Probably fake outs like the earlier .0001 trades, but .0005 looks nicer in my portfolio.
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Maybe they are taunting us. LOL. TMAN...
Posted by juice on :
and today is the 90th day since the halt... go figure lol
Posted by PCola77 on :
Sigh. Seems like an anomaly and nothing of note.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Whats happenning? It looks like BHUB is alive again.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Even look's like a P.O.S. from Indiana, HMMM Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Somethings's funny here (Hi Cotton).
Maybe Rufus is the new CEO...LMAO!
Posted by cottonjim on :
What's up stockstar. I just had dinner with Tman, he is as nice in person as he is on allstocks. Thanks for the company and thanks for occupying our time in Indiana for a night. Have a safe trip back to TX. tman. .0005 IS 5X better than the alternative btw (phantom trade up to $1.00 you S.O.B.!!!!!!)
Posted by thesource on :
I'm holding mine until it hits $15.00 a share !!! We are GOLDEN .........
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
Hey Jimbo. Had a great time yesterday. Cold beer and good conversation cant be beat. All we need now is for this to get to a buck or so and all will be good. lol. Have a safe trip back home. TMAN...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I was just reading the last press release from the company. It dawned on me that according to the p/r news should be out or will be out ANY DAY! With the 4th Holiday and the strange activity yesterday I'm starting to think something may be shaking loose.
"Finally, the Company is progressing in its efforts to regain listing on the OTC Pinksheets and plans to be submitting documentation and a plan to the Depository Trust and NASD over the next 30 days."
----------------------------------------------- June 8, 2007 - 3:21 PM EST
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BHUB 0.0005 0.00
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The BigHub.com, Inc. Starts New Web Site JENSEN BEACH, Fla., June 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The BigHub.com, Inc. (OTCPK: BHUB) announced today that it has started a website initially for corporate purposes. The website address is: www.thebhub.com. 'This site is going to be a work in progress as the Company develops its corporate goals and purpose,' stated Darrell Peterson, Interim President. 'The website is obviously not a final product but will evolve as we develop and communicate management's goals and objectives. The site is intended to contain corporate information as well as developing commercial opportunities in the internet space,' Mr. Peterson further added.
Additionally, the Company stated that it has been in contact with the Ontario Securities Commission regarding recent and planned hearings concerning The BigHub.com, Inc. as well as Select American Transfer, Leasesmart, Advanced Growing Systems, Inc. , Pharm Control, Pocketop Corporation, Asia Telecom, Nutrione Corporation, Jason Wong, David Watson, Nathan Rogers, John Sparrow et al. The Company's corporate counsel plans to be in contact directly with the Commission with regard to the status of The BigHub.com, Inc. The next planned hearing is June 25, 2007.
Finally, the Company is progressing in its efforts to regain listing on the OTC Pinksheets and plans to be submitting documentation and a plan to the Depository Trust and NASD over the next 30 days. At the same time the Company plans to file legal actions against parties regarding the issuance of shares of Company during the last two years.
Safe Harbor: This press release contains forward-looking information within the meaning of section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and is subject to the Safe Harbor created by those sections. This material contains statements about expected future events and/or financial results that are forward-looking in nature and subject to risks and uncertainties. Such forward-looking statements by definition involve risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause the actual results, performance or achievements of The BigHub.com, Inc. to be materially different from the statements made herein.
SOURCE The BigHub.com, Inc.
Source: PR Newswire (June 8, 2007 - 3:21 PM EST)
Posted by kermit42 on :
Even if it's nuthin, at least it's something to talk about while we wait.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
True but I'd still rather see a PR with an update. I hate all this silent waiting.
Posted by Chris4205 on :
Up 600% with no bid or ask on Etrade?????
Posted by PCola77 on :
Scottrade showing a 40,000 share trade at .0035 also!
Posted by cottonjim on :
HMMMMM, or WTF Posted by SherriT on :
So does Scottrade....up 600% with the 40K trade.
Posted by madmoney on :
oops!! back to .0005!!! ya knew that was comming!!
Posted by cottonjim on :
Yeah but now there is 380K in volume, how is this possible without a filing?
Posted by madmoney on :
make that 580K volume!! and now it`s at .0001!!! DOWN 80 percent!!!!!
Posted by SherriT on :
Ouch - make that .0001 with 780K in volume
I just hope it means the other trades will settle soon. I am contacting ChoiceTrade to see if they can get any information.
Posted by SherriT on :
FROM CHOICETRADE:
Dear Madam,
We contacted Penson Financial in regards to BHUB this morning and they have informed us that DTC has not released its global lock on the security. The volume you may be seeing today is most likely away from the market, on the inside. There is no trading being done by the general investing public.
Thank you.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Dear Sir,
We contacted Penson this morning in regards to BHUB and they have informed us that the global lock status for this security remains in place. The volume you are seeing is most likely being done away from the market and does not reflect any trading currently being done by the general public. Thank you. -- Regards, ChoiceTrade Client Services Toll Free: 877-731-9114 Phone: 732-214-2660 Fax: 732-514-6765 service*choicetrade.com www.choicetrade.com Posted by cottonjim on :
980k, just for fun I tried to put a sell order in and Scotty says there is no B/A for this security, so I can't. Imagine that.
Posted by PCola77 on :
LOL. Good timing Sherri!
Posted by PCola77 on :
Just tried to buy with allof the following, and it was rejected in every case:
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: 980k, just for fun I tried to put a sell order in and Scotty says there is no B/A for this security, so I can't. Imagine that.
Posted by cottonjim on :
Repost from IHUB, don't know if theres any truth to it.
Posted by: todd0922 In reply to: Reddog65 who wrote msg# 48437 Date:8/8/2007 12:04:15 PM Post #of 48441
Called Etrade Bhub is trading you have to call your order in. The bid and ask are 0 at the present time because you cannot place any order less than .00001. Call Etrade at 1-800-387-2331 youself. Option 1 when you get connected and ask if Bhub is trading.
Posted by SherriT on :
LOL PCola - about as close to a form letter as we can get. Funny how they can trade at all, and I can't settle.
I'm calling BS.
Posted by PCola77 on :
BY the way, the "can only post once every 60 seconds" rule drive me NUTS!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Hmmm. ODD!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
100% UP ?
Posted by PCola77 on :
On a 52 cent trade...
Posted by cottonjim on :
LMAO...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by cottonjim: LMAO...
Are we talking about CSHD again...LOL
Posted by cottonjim on :
Could just as well be, 'cept the CEO is not in jail.......................yet Posted by cottonjim on :
anyone else notice this??
Tuesday, March 18 2008 10:48 AM, EST Techlabs, Inc. Acquires Stake in the BigHub.com, Inc. and Updates Shareholders on Sirenas Resorts Market Wire "US Press Releases " JENSEN BEACH, FL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 03/18/08 -- Techlabs, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: TCHL) reported that following its due diligence trip last month, Sirenas Resorts subsidiary is in negotiation with two properties in the Dominican Republic near Puerto Plata for its first resort operation on the island. The Company plans to finalize the negotiations within 30 days. Further, the Company announced that it will acquire a direct 7 (seven) percent interest in the http://BigHub.com in return for restricted common stock not available for sale for two years, and assistance with legal, accounting, and administrative matters. These matters are directly related to the relisting of the Company on the Pinksheets and with due diligence relating to potential acquisition candidates. The http://BigHub.com formerly traded under the symbol (PINKSHEETS: BHUB) on the OTC Pinksheets. About Techlabs, Inc. Techlabs is primarily engaged in the travel, leisure and entertainment industries, with a particular focus on emerging opportunities in the Spanish-speaking markets, including the Caribbean basin and South America . The Company seeks to acquire undervalued unique properties and assets utilizing them to their highest and best use via innovative concepts such as its specialty micro resort approach catering to various themes from total relaxation, to sports such as wind surfing and kiting. This news release contains "forward-looking statements" that are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. You are cautioned that such statements are subject to a multitude of risks and uncertainties that could cause future circumstances, events or results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors, including those set forth in Techlabs, Inc.'s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission . You should consider these factors in evaluating the forward-looking statements included herein and not place undue reliance on such statements. The forward-looking statements are made as of the date hereof and Techlabs, Inc. undertakes no obligation to update such statements. For further information regarding the company, contact: Techlabs, Inc. (267) 350-9210
It has produced quite a bit of activity over at IH.
Posted by coalkickin on :
Yes..I saw that this morning...but what will it mean for BHUB stockholders? It sure would be nice to recoup some of the losses from this one. I had pretty much written this one off....maybe there is some hope:)
Posted by PCola77 on :
Interesting thing happened with this. Someone on IHub posted that they got a letter from Penson about BHUB, and it turns out I had gotten the same letter, but had yet to open it. I had sold most of my BHUB shares the day before the halt, and they took the shares but never gave me the money, saying that the trade never cleared. The letter says the following:
"This letter serves as notification that Penson Financial Services, Inc. the clearing firm, has recently processed instructions, which resulted in a securities or cash disbursement from your account." Blah blah blah.
Then on the back, where they show the transaction it says "Recipient Name" and has my name, "Transaction description: Move BHUB to T7", "Symbol/Cusip or Currency: USD", "# of shares or amount:" and has the amount of BHUB shares that I sold in May of 2007 that I never got the money for.
Maybe they are finally unlocking the global halt and the trade will finally be settled. It would be nice to get the money back that has been kept from me for over 18 months.
Posted by T e x on :
agreed.
good post.
Posted by PCola77 on :
Just spend about 20 minutes on hold wiht Choicetrade. Guy said he was talking to a bunch of people at Penson and none of them knew the origina of the letter or what it means. He said he was involved in a lot of the original back and forth when BHUB was halted, and he hand't been contacted by anyone else about this letter yet, and said he was very excited that at least SOMETHING seemed to be going on. He said that he will e-mail me when he has more info. I will pass along anything that I find out.
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