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I'm pretty new to this but wouldn't the reason for the crazyness be that the brokers wern't allowing retail orders to go through so they could sit on whatever bid/ask they wanted to all day to buy up retail sales since they didnt have any real demand from customers just suppy??? Not invested in this just been following along with paiv.
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i got nothing but buys on my steamer...price gets down. A55 RAPAGE WITH NO PROTECTION is what that is
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Im sure it is MM's covering now. Maybe the Short List that came out has something to do with it? It'll probably stay way down and then maybe they let it go towards end of day? wish i had money to buy now!
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Heres the thing (stock) I noticed on this exchange.. the way orders are facilitated...theres alot of late prints..for example...there are 3 guys at 0025 bid they get hit and leave then people start jumping 25 offer hitting all the bids that werent reflected...the prints show up green but there actually sells
P.S. i think thats what all those prinst were AT the 25...
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i still think MM's are gathering. It probably wont start its run up again til late in the day and into tomorrow. will we see it hit .005 again by EOW, thats the question.
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but can we compare paiv and paim with each now or will paim will a different story..i count on a major run but no idea if it will come
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quote:Originally posted by *********06: but can we compare paiv and paim with each now or will paim will a different story..i count on a major run but no idea if it will come
my major run is to get to 0.0050 , thats major enough to me at least
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Is the some upward pressure mounting? .0021 x .0025
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Unbelievable..... how they are keeping it down. Its the same story with PAIV. Loosing patience
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I would say no. There's a general similarity, but as I've pointed out before, the differences are huge. I'm surprised that this ever touched .006, but I don't see it ever going any higher than that unless it finds lots of gold. I'll try to find my more detailed post and re-post it here.
quote:Originally posted by *********06: can we see the same rise as paiv or probably not?
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Here's my old post. By the way, I have 300,000 shares of this so I'd like to see it go up, but not at the expense of others who get in expecting the price to go up 35,000% like PAIV did. :
I would be very hesitant on thinking this will be anything like PAIV. There are some important differences here.
1) With PAIV, we knew exactly how many shares there are/were. With PAIM, between the reverse split that wasn't, and the companies endless dilution, no one knows how many outstanding shares there are, but the number is in the BIllions I think.
2) With PAIV there were hundred of millions of shares sold in one day, when the float was only 26 million. It was very obvious that shares were short sold, intentionally or not. The float was suddenly more than 1000 times what it should be. Since we don't know what the PAIM float is, no one can be sure how many shares were "shorted", and from everythign I read, the multiple is no where that amount, so any "short squeeze" would be dampened if not completely eliminated.
3) Many PAIM holders will sell this stock at any chance, given the confusing ways the stock and executives have acted in the past.
4) A lot of people have been so confused by past PRs, the "debenture" issuance, and a number of other things, that they won't be wiling to take a chance on a stock like this for fear of being burned.
5) There was an intial "Short squeeze" on PAIV the first couple of days, from .0008ish to .0013, but then a slow drop back into the .0040 range. After that it's taken around 2-3 months for the most recent leg to kick in. If there is really a squeeze on PAIM it may be a while before you even notice.
All in all, I'm not saying don't buy, but I am saying this will NOT be anything close to another PAIV
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I still own 250000 free shares juas purchased 54000 more with the rest of the money I had at Scottrade..... PAIM will go back up lots... just not sure how much/when I have a sell order in at AMTD for 200000 limit order.03 to hard to change it.... at AMTD you have to call the broker and get them to change it cant do it on line.... Takes a lot of time on hold so I will stick with the .03 limit sale..... The stock will hit that price in the future.... lots of recent good pr so I am willing to wait.....for....the.....reward
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I still own 250000 free shares just purchased 54000 more with the rest of the money I had at Scottrade..... PAIM will go back up lots... just not sure how much/when I have a sell order in at AMTD for 200000 limit order.03 to hard to change it.... at AMTD you have to call the broker and get them to change it cant do it on line.... Takes a lot of time on hold so I will stick with the .03 limit sale..... The stock will hit that price in the future.... lots of recent good pr so I am willing to wait.....for....the.....reward
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If I remember correctly it was at .0008 at the bottom, then went to .013 in about a week. Then over the course of like 2 months lost about 2/3 of its value to the .004 range. Then exploded in the last 2 weeks to a high of .28.
quote:Originally posted by megahead34: How did PAIV's run flow? have a small run, few bad days, then boom?
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I hope ur right OHIO, but Im not sure we hit that high this week. To many porfit takers on Fridays.
However, I agree with EOD run and into tmrw. Personally, I think Im gng to sell at .005 now, I shoulda Friday when I had the chance, but was stupid. I think it'll get there sometime this week.
Only because this stock is going up and down to much since last Thursday. I might as well play the whole FLIPPIN game to acquire more shares if this how the MM's are gng to play this stock.
Eventually, this stock will get over that penny.
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actually PC, I think the high was .35. Moot point now though. lol
I dont think its a good idea to try to use a comparison of the stocks. All stocks act differently.
Just go with ur DD and maybe some trust in others DD and let the dice roll. This stock is shorted. It already has started some of its run. Remember, it was at .0005 when it had that big gain day, then continued from there and has been up n down since.
I think alot of people that bought in still feel it'll hit a penny soon. Half a penny, much sooner!
good luck to all!
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