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dj-Randy's comment to double your investment was most likely to imply that it would be a wise thing to do..to be sarcastic i'll say especially in light of all the credible accessible information at your disposal..my opinion is that if your present investment which is sizable isn't enough.. than whats the problem? isn't 20-30 million shares in any company a substatial amount?...maybe he's just thinking that it only your money and not his.. so no harm no foul. Go figure
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i knew it lol i picked that up in your very first post on here. lol
Rod
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Yep, and if Frank was as "good ol boy" as Larry the Cable Guy is, then he would just "Git-R-Done" and there'd be a whole lot of happy campers out there singing Redneck songs.
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the dumb *******s oughto know that people want to know where there first fifty thousand is sitting.. I'll bet he got a pinch on the ass for that one,
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Here's an interesting scenerio: Place - the 2006 Gay Games, carried live on Q TV, of course, and in many background shots of the crowd are angry investors, with picket signs denouncing Frank. Then they console themselves with cheesecake!
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: dj-Randy's comment to double your investment was most likely to imply that it would be a wise thing to do..to be sarcastic i'll say especially in light of all the credible accessible information at your disposal..my opinion is that if your present investment which is sizable isn't enough.. than whats the problem? isn't 20-30 million shares in any company a substatial amount?...maybe he's just thinking that it only your money and not his.. so no harm no foul. Go figure
ORRRRRR DJ is the paid pumper that MillerTime so affectionately pointed out concenring people in this forum. IDK since im not there however with DJ's track record there are a few possibilities
1) DJ is the/a paid pumper that is promoting the hell out of the stock to get people excited about upcoming news (that never happens) so people will buy more. Id like to point out DJ does fit in this scenareio.
2) DJ is the patsy of the group mainly due to his proximity to the studio and his willingness to share information. Frank and company could be spoon feeding him information KNOWING it will get back to a good chunk of investors to try to drain more money of them to fund his project. But seeing that DJ is meaning well and likes to help us stay informed he dosent realize what is really going on. Id like to point out that the situation has occured more then once with DJ, so this might be possible. I dont know him well enough to peg him as a patsy or gullible.
3) DJ is being told half truths and either he exaderates what he was told in his fit of excitement or he tells verbetum what Frank said which is meant to pacify a group of shareholders who seem to reach a lot of people and have a large voice. This has also occured over the past 6 months with DJ so this is a possiblility.
4) DJ is competely talking out of his ass and just tring to ruin peoples days and filling people with false hope for his own personal amusement or personal gain. This is not an impossiblity which puts it in the realm of possible. However since DJ was confirmed to be at the stuido today then this would not be completely correct for this encounter.
If you make your judgement by facts and what you know then you wont conclude 1 2 3 or 4. Dj seems to mean well and is tring to keep us informed but that lawyer telling him to double his position, KNOWING hes going to come tell us that seems awefully suspicious to me. Realistically that should only fall into two categories, 1)insider info 2)helping a scam (as PT pointed out). I personaly think with DJ's track record its falling somewhere between 1 and 2, just based on the facts presented.
This is all conjecture on facts that i have been presented with out time. Im not blaming or accusing DJ of anything just pointing things out that SHOULD be reviewed and looked upon with a second view.
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quote:Originally posted by LUCKYB: Here's an interesting scenerio: Place - the 2006 Gay Games, carried live on Q TV, of course, and in many background shots of the crowd are angry investors, with picket signs denouncing Frank. Then they console themselves with cheesecake!
HAHAHAHAH ill give you props on that, that was very funny. I like that
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quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: frank and randy have not told me any specific information. thats 100% true.. they were good about that today god bless em
my take on things randy implied with a wink "gimme a couple days" he said how much you got in this thing? i told him 50 grand he said "double it" but once again..he didnt give me specific information.. either these guys are the slickest son of a bitches around , or we might actually hit a jackpot with this stock..no joke,,just to let you know ,i saw what was going on in the studios. they have new shows coming up.. the exact day. its pretty much narrowed down to thursday , friday,or monday. heres the thing .i was there the first couple days of january .he told me give me a month.so technically ill give him that. i told you guys already.. this thread should be called give me one more week. that will get his attention *
first off, i think a disclaimer should be put out, - DAVID JANAS HAS NEVER EVER CALLED ANYTHING. Everything he has said besides launching of NYC TWC (which was obvious) has been blatenly wrong.
Number two, David, i personally do not think you are a paid pumper (although i do wonder your motives) i will say that PLEASE watch what you say on this board. For god sakes, if you really are lieing about all this or are a paid pumper than you have suckered in many thousands of peoples hard earned dollars.
Many of us have kids, familes, grandkids, etc. We have worked hard for our money.
Again, i personally dont think you are a paid pumper or company insider, but you seriously have to watch what you say because PEOPLE DO BUY IN and HOLD ON because of you. Im sure many people on this board have lost thousands more becuase of your endless predictions.
And a disclaimer to many of the newbies on this board. --DAVID JANAS has never been right and predicted some things like "AUDIT AFTER HOURS THIS FRIDAY I GUARENTEE IT OR I WILL NEVER SPEAK AGAIN". That never happened. and trust me when i say he has been wrong on mannnnnnnny more things.
David, i will personally say that there is a little thing in me that still gets excited to hear your predictions, but i will say that if i ever find out that your motives are not true, then i will probably will be spending money on a plane ticket to cali.
With that being said, again i do not think david is a paid pumper, and i do hope his prediction comes true.
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Based on the share counts of the people on this board alone, It doesn't seem like 100 bill is that huge of a #. 50 k here, 264 mill there,236k there etc. I bet people that post and silent readers of this board account for 10 bill. atleast. Is ihub good for another 10-20 bill? Everythings relative I guess. Itespirits 236k while it is a lot of money to me, I believe he said it was only 1/6th. of his play money. I guess my point is I don't think the 100 bill is that big of a deal right now. It seems that theres alot of people who want a peice of this now with no financials. Imagine the people who won't get a piece of this untill they get financial info.off pinks, ie: fund managers, large portfolio managers, etc.. This share price will fly. I agree with Jennifer as far as the layers of investors who are watching this and waiting for something solid. If we get audit, profitable already, another board. I think you guys are way off with your hopes for .01 or .05. I think the shares are going to be gone.... then what will the share price do? alot more than that. Maybe I'm way off here, but I think shares will be scarce and pps will fly. People are hungry for investments. Look at Sirius. I know people still dumping money into that. They will be profitable when? There growth is steady and predictable with not nearly the potential for growth we have. They have a competitor with virtually the same product with a large headstart on them. The big question is still - if we get ....... Anybody agree with the pps projections if we get....? I am thinking august will be a good time to sell. David....
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quote:Originally posted by hypnostock: Based on the share counts of the people on this board alone, It doesn't seem like 100 bill is that huge of a #. 50 k here, 264 mill there,236k there etc. I bet people that post and silent readers of this board account for 10 bill. atleast. Is ihub good for another 10-20 bill? Everythings relative I guess. Itespirits 236k while it is a lot of money to me, I believe he said it was only 1/6th. of his play money. I guess my point is I don't think the 100 bill is that big of a deal right now. It seems that theres alot of people who want a peice of this now with no financials. Imagine the people who won't get a piece of this untill they get financial info.off pinks, ie: fund managers, large portfolio managers, etc.. This share price will fly. I agree with Jennifer as far as the layers of investors who are watching this and waiting for something solid. If we get audit, profitable already, another board. I think you guys are way off with your hopes for .01 or .05. I think the shares are going to be gone.... then what will the share price do? alot more than that. Maybe I'm way off here, but I think shares will be scarce and pps will fly. People are hungry for investments. Look at Sirius. I know people still dumping money into that. They will be profitable when? There growth is steady and predictable with not nearly the potential for growth we have. They have a competitor with virtually the same product with a large headstart on them. The big question is still - if we get ....... Anybody agree with the pps projections if we get....? I am thinking august will be a good time to sell. David....
Saying that shares are going to be scare for QBID is ridiclous. We are sitting at a 100B AS trading nearly 10B shares a day. Not a big majorityor shareholders own more than 25M shares.
I bet TOTAL of ALL board posters and readers is somewhere around 3B MAX. and thats a big number.
There is going to be so many shares out and avialbe that i will be surprised if QBID sees .001 again. You gotta figure the OS is at least 75B by now.
Sorry just had to comment on the scarsity of QBID shares. Yes i understand your commenting on the future.
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Look guys, im also seeing a lot of people saying that Frank needs pressure to get information out, like he doesnt understand what the problem is. He is a liar everybody plain and simple. Frank knows that he needs to release the audit, a audit, any audit.
Frank did not get this far from being stupid. He understands whats going on. Shares are coming out of everywhere and thats why we are going down and have been for a year. I guess what i just wanna say is that yes Frank knows what he needs to do but he is holding back for a reason.
THIS IS THE ONLY reason why i think there may be a faint hope that he is looking to or is buying back shares. Becuase of the fact that if he were to realeae an audit he could dilute at much higher prices thus decreasing the amount of OS.
Either that, or the audit really isnt that good and he knows that when he releases it the pps is going to be done, (more done than it already is)
I just wanna know who is selling shares
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Millertime posted:
#4 Somebody on this board HAS and DID send a cerfified letter (the exact same as DOC and IMAK) and it was returned without a signature. But the company allowed DOC and IMAK to view the books????that is something that is very interesting..
GET the facts straight, we never said that we saw the books, plain and simple
I would imagine that they will not accept any more letters, after getting ours in Dec/Jan. In addition, I would also imagine that if any party were to just drop in on Burbank that they would be escorted out.
Finally, if we had signed the NDA then that would have made us insiders, we did not sign anything. Nor were we given anything plain and simple.
Correct, sorry doc, didnt mean to put words into your mouth. You never did see the audit.
It would be nice to find out how the chosen few are able to speak with Frank as some who have went by and been very kind have been thrown out.
And NO, it is QTN's legal responsibility to allow shareholders to view the books. They just cant simply stop accepting cerified letters. If they were to and the Washington SOS were told of this, they would lose their license. (maybe not that far on first case, but you get my point.)
So is it true that all you really saw and heard was a good tour of the studios and the same lies that have been told to Davidjanas for months now?
Im just trying to get to the bottom of all this
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M.T. If thats the case, with only that many shares by board posters. How many shares are owned by investors total, 10 bill.? If so than where are the large volumes of shares going? Why would M.M.s trade that much with eachother. To keep the pps down? Are they accumulating franks shares? You know I am still a very new, naive investor, and appreciate your opinions. Can the M.M.'s control this that much? And if they can than imagine what the skittles and reeces pieces could do. tia David..
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quote:Originally posted by hypnostock: M.T. If thats the case, with only that many shares by board posters. How many shares are owned by investors total, 10 bill.? If so than where are the large volumes of shares going? Why would M.M.s trade that much with eachother. To keep the pps down? Are they accumulating franks shares? You know I am still a very new, naive investor, and appreciate your opinions. Can the M.M.'s control this that much? And if they can than imagine what the skittles and reeces pieces could do. tia David..
You are right on there hypno. That is probably what is going on, but honestly i have no idea. Nobody really knows. The fact is that, only 1 entity could be selling so many shares at .0001 and that is QTN diluting newly issued shares from the AS. Nobody has 50B shares to sell.
it could very well be that the MM are acquring the shares, but who knows how many. Some company (planetout) could be quickly acquiring a major portion of QTN through the shares for a small amount. Say 5M could buy however many shares and own that certain percentage of the company. Then if they put a bid in for a buyout, they could probably make their money back becuase of the crazy market capitalization on QBID currently.
The truth is nobody really knows, and i am just trying to get down to the bottom of it. All signs point to QTN diluting because they dont have enough funds, but then you have Frank telling Davidjanas that he is buyingback shares.
Its anyones guess whats going on right now.
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I am still long and strong, but the massive increase in the a/s and the major dumping lead me to believe that there is a simple reason for all of this that has been brought up before but not in so nearly as positive a fashion!
Frank said they had funding. If he obtained that funding through convertible debentures with price protection clauses (aka toxic financing) then that explains a lot.
This means in simplest form that someone loaned them money. TMM is repaying the loan, but at anytime the lender can convert that debt into a set number of shares.
The lender protects themselves by setting that level of shares based on the current pps. ie. If they convert while the pps is $1, they get 100 shares, but if they convert at $.001, they get 100000 shares.
Often times companies will be contractually obligated to increase the a/s if the loans are converted at an extremely low price and there are not enough shares remaining in the treasury to cover the conversion.
If one of the lenders decided to convert their debt in early december, then Frank would have been forced to increase the a/s as most of the shares had been issued already.
Now this would also explain the lag in producing the audit. A full audit would have disclosed this financing deal and driven the price down even faster, forcing the the condition that we are in now, even sooner. Frank may have been hoping to avoid that situation (God, I hope so).
Believe it or not (and I know you believe it!) there is a potential positive side to this from here out....
We can't get any lower! LOL Any convertible debenture agreement would have obviously bottomed out at the lowest possible price, which we are at. Frank may be waiting for these lenders to go ahead and dump their converted shares and then he won't have anything left to hide.
Just more fuel for the fire....
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i hope your not sitting on the Enron case. that is going to be a long one lol
rod
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Hoss, that makes good sense. If Frank was forced to increse the share count as financing converted to stocks, then maybe, given the hopes that the company has profits by now, Frank can buy back and reduce the share count and then release the audit.
I know he had said before that he was buying back...
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I watched the DVD "twice" and I can tell you that the first part of the DVD was people being very zany, flambouant, and just crazy. I wasn't to impressed, maybe it just wasn't my cup of tea, kinda over the top for me!
But a little redemption soon came, about half way through the DVD they started showing clips from Q On The Move with Nick Oram, The Reichen Show, and QTN World News with Steve Kemetko.
These shows appeared to be substantially better in quality, more professionally written, produced and of better film and editing quality.
A few people have commented about the production equipment (Cameras, Sound Equipment, Editing Equipment) appearing to be state of the art.
I wouldn't go that far. I've been in television studios where production of recorded shows and live shows are done, and seen state of the art equipment. QTN's equipment appears to be "Functionally Sound", but "state of the art". Maybe they didn't really show us all the good stuff on the DVD. Hmmmmn!
We have to remember that they bought a studio that was already in place and up and running, so they could hit the ground running. They obviously got something for their (OUR)money. How much does $25 Million really buy today, especially in Southern California? It may truly have been a bargin at West Coast prices.
Frank, opined that some share holders were unhappy with the stock price, and the reason that the share price is down is, because we bought all of this, as he throws his arms in the air and the camera swings around showing one of the sets and some equipment, he also indicated they are spending more than they are bringing in.
He didn't talk about any other Financial stuff at all, Period.
Overall the DVD appeared to be more of a promotional disk and one very big party for some, and at the shareholders expense. Will it payoff, only time will tell!
It's just my opinion, and probably won't carry much weight here as I only recently came out from behind the Qdoors of lurking for almost 2 years.
But Frank said it, right here on the DVD for "everyone" to hear, "Plain and Simple" the reason the stock price is down, is because they are spending money and lots of it.
Where do you think all of this money is coming from. The operating cost's on a daily basis have to be absolutely astronomical.
I think it should be obvious to everyone that we're not going to break even, or be "Profitable" as Frank indicated by the first Quarter of 2006, or anytime soon! Were still filling a very big hole with large sums of shareholders money just trying to stay a float, expansion also takes large sums of cash.
What happens when we get to the end of the 100 Billion A/S, where will the money come from to keep operating? I don't know but it appears that QTN is pulling out in front of the "Other Two" (Here and Logo)GLBT stations and is making a run for the top!
I will say this much, I've been here since .0135 for 1.383 million shares, putting my dreams and hopes in the hands of others.
Frank has "his" dream fulfilled, he's done it, he has an operational GLBT Television Network that is Broadcasting from East Coast to West Coast, and quite possibly Internationally.
Will we as shareholders that have been here with Frank since almost the beginning, who shared his vision, see our dreams fulfilled?
All I can say is it's been one hell of a roller coaster ride, my hands are thrown up in the air and I've been screaming all the way to the bottom!!!
Will we be rewarded for our part of making QTN a success, I believe in the end, we will either be filthy rich or filthy broke, and I have only the size of "My Dreams" to blame for either one!
Looker
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We ALL are in the same "dream" you are dreaming! I can say positive things about QBID and just as many, if not more, negative things about QBID. No one here knows anything more. So, at this point we have made our bets, put our money on the roulette table and now we are waiting for the wheel to stop spinning and the ball to stop.
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i have never talked to frank and i am a paid pumper.. believe what you need to.. because i will never post here again . so good luck to everyone. i wish you all well.
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Does anyone have fax # * The Q, and email addresses for those folks other than Frank? TIA.
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quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: Now that I threw that out, I have jury duty tomorrow Ugh. Have a good night all! And I will see you tomorrow evening.
Good luck with Jury duty and thanks for a fresh insite. The only downside is that I fear a R/S is coming...
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King Crimson...do you have yesterdays correct volume #'s
TIA
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quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: i have never talked to frank and i am a paid pumper.. believe what you need to.. because i will never post here again . so good luck to everyone. i wish you all well.
dj- dont leave because of one person.... we all appreciate those on this board who make a effert to contribute. cool down for a little bit , and come back
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If you know that you are not, why care what others think. Don't quit posting. I enjoy your post. Especially after you've had a couple of martini's.
(I can't think of anyone that pumps more than the person that called you a pumper)
quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: i have never talked to frank and i am a paid pumper.. believe what you need to.. because i will never post here again . so good luck to everyone. i wish you all well.
quote:Originally posted by BlackWidow: Oh, and I've not gotten a DVD. I live in a suburb of Phoenix. I think I'm on the do not contact list.
I am likely on the DVD list twice and so are coworkers and none of us have received the DVD either. (We are all near BW) Maybe Frank decided Arizona was too close to mail them and is going to hand deliver them to us! Posts: 482 | From: Arizona | Registered: Mar 2005
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quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: i have never talked to frank and i am a paid pumper.. believe what you need to.. because i will never post here again . so good luck to everyone. i wish you all well.
dont forget, some people like to get under your skin,,, if you leave then they win... dont let them win
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Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but if Frank has publically stated that "NO reverse split will occur while he is CEO" I believe both verbally and in written form. What would be the reprecussion of a RS happening. Unless obviously he were to step down and have someone else do it. Meaning, legally what would happen if he did something that he said he would not?
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