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Just being as kind as I can here....but I think all you bashers are just full of sh*t and a waist of page space.
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I just have a question for this board. why can't Frank get some financing to support the company instead of diluting the shares?

If Q is expanding in all directions, wouldn't any financial instituion lend them moeny. I have seen with companies with no idea getting funded and why can't Q get funded?

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[ January 07, 2006, 12:59: Message edited by: QBID'n ]

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Another rookie thought; If liquidity is low to begin with than it seems it would require more dilution. The question is, when will we see an A/S of 200 billion?
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But isn't the liquidity low because of less buying? And if so, with little or no buys at these levels, wouldn't dilution be fruitless?

Anyone?

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Is there less buying? I've seen people on this board buying all week, and with pps this low people are buying much more at a time, meaning the amount of money going in isn't really going down. Good questions QBID'n!
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http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=QBID,uu[h,a]daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUc20!Lf]&pref=G

according to Accum/Dist and CMF.. people are still buying into the Q the past 3 months

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Why are you asking the board, why don't you ask Frank yourself.

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Originally posted by laintbad:
I just have a question for this board. why can't Frank get some financing to support the company instead of diluting the shares?

If Q is expanding in all directions, wouldn't any financial instituion lend them moeny. I have seen with companies with no idea getting funded and why can't Q get funded?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=QBID,uu[h,a]daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUc20!Lf]&pref=G

according to Accum/Dist and CMF.. people are still buying into the Q the past 3 months

And I'm glad. But surely at a decreased rate and value ratio. Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not getting down on the pps, I'm merely just trying to justify (I think) why there shouldn't be any dilution at this point.

Doesn't a company dilute to generate more income? If so, wouldn't it be useless or almost like defeating the purpose when at this level of value?

Unless of course there just happened to be massive amounts of buying.

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Yes.

No.

I mean yes.

Uh, I don't know.

Perhaps it's the good, the bad and the ugly!

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quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
EVERYWHERE...........LOL

Yeah, well...lurking? You seem to have disappeared... You haven't been the same since Thursday... What happened to Mr. "Here's my opinion...blah!...Imak"

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quote:
Originally posted by suzainiee:
Yes.

No.

I mean yes.

Uh, I don't know.

Perhaps it's the good, the bad and the ugly!

aahahaha..... [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=QBID,uu[h,a]daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUc20!Lf]&pref=G

according to Accum/Dist and CMF.. people are still buying into the Q the past 3 months

And I'm glad. But surely at a decreased rate and value ratio. Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not getting down on the pps, I'm merely just trying to justify (I think) why there shouldn't be any dilution at this point.

Doesn't a company dilute to generate more income? If so, wouldn't it be useless or almost like defeating the purpose when at this level of value?

Unless of course there just happened to be massive amounts of buying.

Yeah, I don't know either QBID'n, the only thing I can think of is CMKX (I know, ouch). When I first started coming here to learn about pennies they were raising their A/S to 703 billion. I wodered how in the heck could they do that, and why. The answer, I think, is the lower the pps the more shares they needed to release into the market to keep generating money. It became a bit of a domino effect. And they had a combination of cult like followers buying up shares in larger quantities the lower the pps got, and newbies looking to get rich quick. Greedbeing the driver.
With QBID I've seen the A/S go up 3 times in less than a year, and the pps go down. Sure, Frank could have sold out at .02. My guess is he did, and instead of cutting and running he continued to make money by diluting down. Maybe through greed, or maybe to grow Q Television. Only transparency will tell us. And yes, QBID does have a cult like following, and yes there are still newbies coming in, and greed still drives.
I'm still very much a rookie so this is just my VHO. Time will tell...

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quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=QBID,uu[h,a]daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUc20!Lf]&pref=G

according to Accum/Dist and CMF.. people are still buying into the Q the past 3 months

And I'm glad. But surely at a decreased rate and value ratio. Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not getting down on the pps, I'm merely just trying to justify (I think) why there shouldn't be any dilution at this point.

Doesn't a company dilute to generate more income? If so, wouldn't it be useless or almost like defeating the purpose when at this level of value?

Unless of course there just happened to be massive amounts of buying.

Yeah, I don't know either QBID'n, the only thing I can think of is CMKX (I know, ouch). When I first started coming here to learn about pennies they were raising their A/S to 703 billion. I wodered how in the heck could they do that, and why. The answer, I think, is the lower the pps the more shares they needed to release into the market to keep generating money. It became a bit of a domino effect. And they had a combination of cult like followers buying up shares in larger quantities the lower the pps got, and newbies looking to get rich quick. Greedbeing the driver.
With QBID I've seen the A/S go up 3 times in less than a year, and the pps go down. Sure, Frank could have sold out at .02. My guess is he did, and instead of cutting and running he continued to make money by diluting down. Maybe through greed, or maybe to grow Q Television. Only transparency will tell us. And yes, QBID does have a cult like following, and yes there are still newbies coming in, and greed still drives.
I'm still very much a rookie so this is just my VHO. Time will tell...

If I were to make a point, I guess it would be that it just doesn't make sense to dilute knowing you aren't going to make effective income here at the bottom. And debentures will only provide income for the MM's at minimal margins. It all becomes a stale mate I guess.

And as for CMKX, I would think Frank is well aware of the fact that it was a recent and despicable investment. I would also like to think that he realizes CMKX is an investment model that many investors have and will learn from. So to think he would publicly take that path and expect everyone to follow is just ludicrous.

I’m still thankful for him but I just think he put his own dumbass in a bind. Just give him time. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=QBID,uu[h,a]daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUc20!Lf]&pref=G

according to Accum/Dist and CMF.. people are still buying into the Q the past 3 months

And I'm glad. But surely at a decreased rate and value ratio. Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not getting down on the pps, I'm merely just trying to justify (I think) why there shouldn't be any dilution at this point.

Doesn't a company dilute to generate more income? If so, wouldn't it be useless or almost like defeating the purpose when at this level of value?

Unless of course there just happened to be massive amounts of buying.

Im not necessarily directing this post at you QBIDn.
Just wanted to say that yes, over the past 6+ months there have been greatly biased buy to sell ratios. I mean id say expect for the past month, there was a 75% buy ratio on the stock. And we saw VERT sitting on the ask selling shares.
Now Recently we have seen that bias turn greatly to probably at least 75% selling.

And Having Frank (or whomever) sell at this level you are correct. It is DESTROYING our share structure and im sure that Frank knows this but becuase he said that he would not RS, that he has to hold to this promise and ruin our share structure.

Id be willing to bet that it is Frank diluting and that is why he raised the AS to 100B. He is going to continue to dilute as much as possible before DOC and IMAK meet with him, and once he has delayed them enough he will invite them in and show them the books. He will tell people who see him like Davidjanas great things regarding the network knowing that they will post on the board "great things to come".

We have seen this. (i AM NOT bashing this stock nor the two people i am about to talk about because they say what they are told. I do not think they lie.) Jenn and David both either speak with Frank or have insiders that tell them things probably from Frank himself that end up being complete lies as Frank is buying time until he is done diluting. Frank has meet with David Janas numerous times and every single time he has LIED to davids face. I used to think that david was lieing, but NO it is Frank straight up lieng. He lied when everybody went to the studio to meet with him.

This guy is a bonafide scam artist. Over on IHUB last month, some of the guys were bringing up his criminal record and how many different aliases this guy has. And add to that over 100+ civil lawsuits against him where he lost EVERY SINGLE ONE.

THIS GUY IS A LIAR , SCAM ARTIST, etc. Call it what you may. I have had enough of being suckered in and say 1 more week and have people get fed lines from Frank himself saying Big things to come. So im gonna say this stuff right out in the blue.
Many people will be pissed that i am saying this, but most of you know i really try to help out. I believe that many were like me and still not believing and still get a warm fuzzy feeling when people like David janas say things like (most recently) "its gonna get real good real soon". NO! Frank told him that so that he could buy himself more time to dilute another 40 Billion shares.

The OS by now is probably up around 70B.

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I will not take away from what he has accomplished as it is pretty impressive but this guy NEEDS to step down and get some accountible CFO or businessman from the outside to run the company. Frank Olson, Franklyin Olsen, Franklen Olson, Frank Olsen, you name it, this guy cannot run this company.

Im done rambling and please think about what im saying. I know that now Frank has played us like a fiddle and really have no other choice now but to hold becuase we are SOO low now.
I truely do hope that good things are uncovered in the visit that Doc and IMAK plan, but im betting that they wont visit until probably around Jan 23.
And i just pray to god that Frank was not lieing in the CC when he said that QBID shareholders own QTN 100% but i really am beginning to wonder just HOW MUCH we own.

Good luck to us all and heres to hopin for some more carriers and regions.

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Spoke with Randy Vahan (yesterday) nothing much to report other than they have hired a law firm in Washington State to help them with the request that they are receiving from shareholders.

Apparently, security lawyers in WA to help Randy better understand what the shareholder rights are. Also to bridge the gap in regulations between the SEC and WA State. Sounds like they are not taking the letters lightly. I have asked for the telephone number for their attorneys in WA.

We are suppose to get another call from Randy this coming Monday [Big Grin]

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*waiting patiently*

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Thanks Doc.
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quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=QBID,uu[h,a]daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUc20!Lf]&pref=G

according to Accum/Dist and CMF.. people are still buying into the Q the past 3 months

And I'm glad. But surely at a decreased rate and value ratio. Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not getting down on the pps, I'm merely just trying to justify (I think) why there shouldn't be any dilution at this point.

Doesn't a company dilute to generate more income? If so, wouldn't it be useless or almost like defeating the purpose when at this level of value?

Unless of course there just happened to be massive amounts of buying.

Im not necessarily directing this post at you QBIDn.
Just wanted to say that yes, over the past 6+ months there have been greatly biased buy to sell ratios. I mean id say expect for the past month, there was a 75% buy ratio on the stock. And we saw VERT sitting on the ask selling shares.
Now Recently we have seen that bias turn greatly to probably at least 75% selling.

And Having Frank (or whomever) sell at this level you are correct. It is DESTROYING our share structure and im sure that Frank knows this but becuase he said that he would not RS, that he has to hold to this promise and ruin our share structure.

Id be willing to bet that it is Frank diluting and that is why he raised the AS to 100B. He is going to continue to dilute as much as possible before DOC and IMAK meet with him, and once he has delayed them enough he will invite them in and show them the books. He will tell people who see him like Davidjanas great things regarding the network knowing that they will post on the board "great things to come".

We have seen this. (i AM NOT bashing this stock nor the two people i am about to talk about because they say what they are told. I do not think they lie.) Jenn and David both either speak with Frank or have insiders that tell them things probably from Frank himself that end up being complete lies as Frank is buying time until he is done diluting. Frank has meet with David Janas numerous times and every single time he has LIED to davids face. I used to think that david was lieing, but NO it is Frank straight up lieng. He lied when everybody went to the studio to meet with him.

This guy is a bonafide scam artist. Over on IHUB last month, some of the guys were bringing up his criminal record and how many different aliases this guy has. And add to that over 100+ civil lawsuits against him where he lost EVERY SINGLE ONE.

THIS GUY IS A LIAR , SCAM ARTIST, etc. Call it what you may. I have had enough of being suckered in and say 1 more week and have people get fed lines from Frank himself saying Big things to come. So im gonna say this stuff right out in the blue.
Many people will be pissed that i am saying this, but most of you know i really try to help out. I believe that many were like me and still not believing and still get a warm fuzzy feeling when people like David janas say things like (most recently) "its gonna get real good real soon". NO! Frank told him that so that he could buy himself more time to dilute another 40 Billion shares.

The OS by now is probably up around 70B.

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I will not take away from what he has accomplished as it is pretty impressive but this guy NEEDS to step down and get some accountible CFO or businessman from the outside to run the company. Frank Olson, Franklyin Olsen, Franklen Olson, Frank Olsen, you name it, this guy cannot run this company.

Im done rambling and please think about what im saying. I know that now Frank has played us like a fiddle and really have no other choice now but to hold becuase we are SOO low now.
I truely do hope that good things are uncovered in the visit that Doc and IMAK plan, but im betting that they wont visit until probably around Jan 23.
And i just pray to god that Frank was not lieing in the CC when he said that QBID shareholders own QTN 100% but i really am beginning to wonder just HOW MUCH we own.

Good luck to us all and heres to hopin for some more carriers and regions.

quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
The question is, when will we see an A/S of 200 billion?

I totally respect your opinion MT as I too feel that Frank is an unethical piece of sh*t....but yet we’re all grateful.

But I would be willing to bet your 75% figure was merely to cover their own take home holiday expenses. So out of curiosity [Big Grin] ...if nothing happens with the pps between now and the end of January, we could always make a 30 day assessment just to see if the increase is consistent proving your theory right....ahaha, just having fun!

I know its anybody’s guess as to what Frank “may” have diluted shares for, but if he diluted say 100,000,000 daily, at an average of .0002-.0003 for the last 20 trading days, that’s only 600k....would you think that is enough to pay for any of the things speculated in the past 30 days?

Just curious....thanks [Wink]

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oops...sorry about the confusion [Big Grin] but I was referring to the MM's selling.
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your not paying attention.

Imakemoney has choose to be quiet for a while. he has been quiet by choice since Frank called and set up the meeting.

this is not something new since Thursday.

He chooses to be quiet as he has the right to.

they have a meeting set for the 12th. and if that happens he can then make an accessment of what is happening, as of right now, everything that everyone knows is all seculative.

Stop calling him out, he will come and post when he is ready to and or when he has something he wants to share.

dont read into silence as your imagination can run wild and scare you.

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quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
EVERYWHERE...........LOL

Yeah, well...lurking? You seem to have disappeared... You haven't been the same since Thursday... What happened to Mr. "Here's my opinion...blah!...Imak"


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THEN WOULD YOU BELIEVE..........
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http://sovo.com/2006/1-6/arts/feature/feature.cfm

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Frank Olsen's Public Statement :

4/19/2005-RE:Reverse Split WILL NOT be one of them.

Management received many inquiries yesterday asking if there will be a reverse split.

Through the many changes Triangle Multi Media will be going through in the future, a reverse split WILL NOT be one of them.

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IMO, Frank Olsen has screw all the loyal shareholders to DEATH for having supported his lies.
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More people are calling for Frank to step down every day. We'll see if the next management team will reverse the no reverse split promise. Personally, I will not be surprised one bit if Frank does a reverse split. I'll bet he could do it and get away with it and, I'll bet, be thanked for it.
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Leo we need to know what we own. QBID TMM.
This stock is in the toilet. QTN Keeps growing. What's up with NTI and other holdings within TMM?

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Agreed firefly, transparency transparency transparency. Doesn't seem like there's much to do now but wait until the twelfth, eh...
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Leo, I really don't think the 12th is that important. I will get excited when real numbers are published for TMM. A QTN audit doesn't hold water.
Sec filing with published holdings is a whole different story.

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I hear you firefly, I just hope that this meeting is really putting pressure on Frank to get on the ball with the sec stuff
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I understand. Puts the pressure on. Don't know if it is premature,,but doesn't really matter at the current pps.

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Question; can/has a stock run up from .0001 with an A/S of 100 BILLION without a reverse split?
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A/S 100 bill at .0002. I want to know what the float is.

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yeah, and what's the O/S up to.
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