quote:Originally posted by will: See, there's nothing to worry about. The audit is coming, and they'll probably increase the amount of the share buy back too.
Yea Right!
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quote:Originally posted by will: See, there's nothing to worry about. The audit is coming, and they'll probably increase the amount of the share buy back too. I am learning so much here. Guys taking a sizable postion, and suspecting that the O/S was being diluted 200% and the Float was being diluted 460% in the last three months, but being brave enough to buy into that suspicion, shows a lot of courage. Timing, wow! what can I say about what I have learned about timing, guys holding long, and suddenly changing stragedy right before bad news hits. I just can't believe my good fortune that I get all these lessons for free. I sure wish I was that smart and shrewd.
How fast do you figure they get paid by Bluelinx! Once the cash flow evens out they can buy back shares but I imagine it takes a lot of product to get a basis order into each of 65 warehouses..............maybe get pd in 90 days???
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Well I'm gonna ramble a minute. I desreve to I've held PLNI since 06/2004. I've got to say I am so dam disapionted in PLNI I don't EVEN know what to say. I was pi$$ed this morning cause my sell order would NEVER go thru til it was finished falling. Sold at .005 and bought at forever ago at .0038.
It absolutly blows me away that PLNI closed at .0063. They now show that the O/S is 3.2 bill. (or whatever) after they repeatedly said there would be NO dilution. LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They now officially have more shares than fish in the sea. That's all they are. LIARS! When I bought 1 1/2 years ago it was because they were moving to the OTCBB. SURE, SURE, SURE...just like they are now right????? It's a bunch of crap! They are not doing anything but making up crap cause they know investors thrive on it. Think about it folks....they have been in business since what....87. That should tell you something about how they work the crowd. They pay for ad's in IBD and try to make it sound like a story being done on them. This is one shady company...period. I can say this....why...I was a long time investor swallowing all the BS thinking this would fly. State,Will, and Stock were right all the time. Every time they pointed out something...they were bashed and bashed hard. They were just stating the facts. What are the facts you newbies ask???? We have waited on an audit for over 2 years now and something ALWAYS comes up to prolong it....WHY...cause their won't ever be one. It's just their way to salvage the PPS when falling. Don't kid yourself....they know how to play the game and play it well....they are Pro's. This IS NOT....I repeat NOT a long term hold. Nothing more than swing on the ups and downs. I would bet my house that this will be trading at .006 2 years from now and you can go thru the posts and read the same old BULLSH!T over and over again. ( completing that audit)I'll bet 2 years from now we are still waiting on those final numbers for the audit. It's just right around the corner.( like that carrot)
Sorry folks..Old Time investor just venting his frustration here now that it's all over BUT.......take heed folks. I'm right on the money with this. Day trade and swing trade but holding long will probably ruin your year. Good luck to those holding this BAG of you know what. I'm sorry if I have offeded any holders but HEY....I just call em' like I see em" If I was face to face with Jim I would probably beat the livin' sh!t outta him then cover him in rebar supports and then bury him in 6" of cement.
What a gullable dumba$$ I was. Screw me once Shame on you....Screw me twice shame on me. And to think they don't even furnish Vasoline....shame on PLNI. GLTA!
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posted December 09, 2005 22:34 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You will never see an independent audit. They may swear to it, promise it, but it will never transpire.
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posted December 09, 2005 23:03 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Look, a lot of people were convinced the dilution was a stock buy back or accuumulation, because they had or have trusted sources. This is a pink sheet. This management is an experienced in pink sheet ploys, tactics, stradegies. They're talking about an audit, so they can move to a bigger board. How often have you heard that, and more importantly, how often does it really happen? I thought I saw a post where less than 15 companies, on the pinks moved up in a one year period, it just doesn't happen often, but is regularly said and/or promised. People have their hard earned cash invested in this, they want to believe the best, they don't want to feel foolish or duped, they will believe the most ridiculous senarios to save face or just not feel like they have poor judgement. These pink sheet operators know this and exploit it. Look at those poor people who still believe there is something good going to come out of CMKX. As far as meeting a guy, and reading his sincerity, well, a lot of people met Urban Casavant, and invested more afterwards. Just the fact that the float was diluted by 38% while "trusted sources", and company misleading PR's were telling people to belive otherwise should be more than enough to convince any reasonable person the company isn't playing fair. They will continue to promise great things on the horizon, and continue to not achieve them, because of some outisde force, whether it be, the SEC approval, MM's, NSS, or whatever they can think of. Eventually they will either have no choice to R/S or R/M leaving investors with much less. Can I prove or back up any of this? Heck no ! Is it just an opinion, Damn Right! Have you all seen it before? Damn Right you have. Does even the strongest supporter of companies like this have these doubts in the back of their minds? Damn right they do.
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DQ, I think you earned the right to say whatever the heck you want.
Sheesh, take a trip down memory lane. This thread, which now numbers 97 pages, started with the following post:
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LEXINGTON, Ky., Aug. 24, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- Plasticon International Inc. (Pink Sheets:PLNI) is pleased to announce that their Board has approved the retirement of 200 million shares, the first step in a process designed to decrease the total outstanding shares and increase shareholder value.
"We believe that the retirement of shares will add tremendous value for our shareholders," said Jim Turek, President and CEO of Plasticon International. "This is the first step in a share restructuring process. The restructuring will be reflected in a share price that is more truly representative of the actual value of Plasticon's shares. We firmly believe that this is in the best interests of both our shareholders and the company."
Mr. Turek added that Plasticon International is committed to a program designed to enhance shareholder value through a comprehensive strategy, starting with this initial retirement. As a part of this restructuring strategy, the Company plans to undertake a buy back program for still additional outstanding shares.
The retirement of 200 million shares is in addition to positive earnings. Plasticon recently announced that it is profitable as of the second quarter in 2005. "We believe that the retirement of shares will be significant as the first step in a process that should result in a better reflection of the value of Plasticon's shares," Mr. Turek concluded.... ============= Of course the nonsense has an even longer history than that.
Why the relatively mild decline, end of day, despite a more than tripling of the float and a 60% hike in the o/s? Pink market psychology is hard to predict. One element, I suspect, is that many holders here did not go through the earlier dilution lie; for them, this is just one mistake. Will has some good observations
The question now is whether the massive dilution will catch up to whatever future hype PLNI has in store. If and when it does, collapse. DQ is right--trade on swings, if at all; based on the track record and the character of the principals involved, this is not a long hold. It's possible Turek will eventually deliver on something, but it would represent a brand-new pattern.
Speaking of which, there is just under 1.3 billion shares Turek could add to the outstanding & float without having to file another document with the Wyoming Secretary of State (recalling that the a/s count is 5 billion.)
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Yes, and that is just this thread. There was another thread before this that FOT started way back when that was about 105 pages of the same old crap over and over and over again. I wish someone could tell me a REAL pink that I could DD. that was legit. Maybe there isn't a pink that is. Anyway. It breaks my heart to think of all the great things I thought this co. would accomplish. I thought by now this would be trading at .10 if not .15 by now. Sad thing is ...many newbies will fall for the same line I did. Beware. Suggestion......If by June they are still shouting we are completing the audit......be afraid! I'm one hard headed guy......but finally got the picture. Best of luck......maybe after some time I can find the courage to invest here again but they will have to show me something concrete....not hype with no facts. Sorry for the bad outlook Bearclaw. I really hope you kick some Butt with this stock.
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I should add that at the time of that post, the pps was around .015 (I'm eyeballing a crude chart, that's a ballpark) and would soon hit the .019 spike before, in the long view, beginning the decline. The share structure, as summarized by another poster in August last year:
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The Financials
A/S is in the range of 2 to 2.4 billion, with the most common figure being 2 Billion
O/S is in the range of 1.4 to 2Billion, with the most common data 1.4, and the most recent possibility 2.0
I hope the lessons learned will reap you profits many times over in your future endeavors. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and frustrations. The newbies need to hear this. If history is any guide, there will be another thread, another name, a symbol change, but the same old management and games in the future. Those who have been burnt before may try to warn the new wave of victims. The new legions of faithful will see this as a threat to their investment and go on the attack. Never let that discourage you from expressing your opinions or feelings. You can take some solace in knowing there are those who do not post regularly, or at all, but who do read the thread for information. Someone will benefit from your experience whether you know it or not. I know because I've received PMs from grateful observers who have benefited from auditing the thread(okay, maybe 'auditing' wasn't the best choice of words...)
Hopefully, someone on the thread of the next stock you're interested in will post thier experience and make(or save) you some money. The saying "what goes around, comes around" works for helpful deeds as well.
Good Luck.
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DQ... Please don't ever apologize for your thoughts to me. I've had my share both good and bad...
This has been a rollar coaster for a lot of folks. Whenever a stock has the kind of up and down movememnt of PLNI...it's a swing traders dream to follow it's trading behavior and act. I bought back in yesterday after getting out on Wednesday...it had a great retrace after the morning fall...and am looking for an exit now. Probably have swing traded this 1-2 times a week since the spring.
Folks think I pump PLNI. I have...in saying this is a great "Swing Stock" terrific play. It may have more movememt in the next month...we'll see. I would not hold long on PLNI...especially now that it's clear there has been intentional deception. Why that is...I don't know...but everyone certainly can speculate. In swing trading it doesn't matter...just play the stock.
There is still money to be made on PLNI but only as a "SWING PLAY"...If a stock moves 8-12 clicks per day on average and it develops a predictable behavior then it's a possible swing stock..GZFX has been perfect the last two months and have played that also.
I'll probably back off it after finding an exit next week and re-evaluate how this news has affected PLNI. I expect to be back in shortly after...My assumption is that it will probably fall into a swing pattern again and there will be money to be made...Holding long is very dangerous for most pennies IMO...Some folks play runners, some daytrade...I just find I'm most successful in charting swing stocks...PLNI not excluded. Oh ...and yes I'm disappointed in this development...but the story is still being told...
Good luck DQ and I wish you success...
"Sorry for the bad outlook Bearclaw. I really hope you kick some Butt with this stock."
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Thanks Bear and Stock. Bear, looking at it all this is a great swing stock. I wish I could be at the computer more so I could trade more often. I know I'm playing wrong with pinks. Examples: JPHC..bought at .0004 rode up to .0024 and back down. Holding. ICMH 0018 up to .0025 back down. CSJJ .0009 down. Holding. Haven't been selling cause my approach is that ONE of these things are going to make a HUGE move and they never do. (they did...I was just to stupid to know that was the move)
Now that I am out of PLNI and have learned, I am going to try the smarter path and get in and out in no more that 2 to 3 days tops. It takes a while to pound something thru my thick head...always gotta do things my way and prove everybody wrong. Anyway, best of luck to all. I hope 2006 brings many good short term plays. And I know there will be many more times to make money in PLNI. Thanks again all.
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On Wednesday, when Bear got out, I was putting up with this:
quote:State...Why does it not surprise me you think the float is higher..? No evidence of that just pure scepticism...You must have played on a sports team that never won a game...You need enthusiasm and teamwork to win...not someone sitting on the bench beeching...
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State... Want more?...I have plenty...or you can gloat as folks that held long watch their investment shrink. My position with you hasn't changed one bit...You know what that is...You guys aren't risking anything...Don't own anything and don't play this stock...At the time that was written there was no evidence. Did you know something before the public did?
There was a concerned effort by a web site group of bears/bashers to slam PLNI over the last two weeks. Consistant across the blogs...They even announced the new share numbers before they were released on Pinksheets...Did you have those numbers early? If you don't think there is an attack on PLNI, and has been, then your not paying attention...
Does it matter to me? Yes...Does it effect my swing trading...No...Buy low sell high...
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Hi Bear. Not gloating. I think I earned that one, after taking all of your paranoid abuse. An apology would have been nice, but I'm not so dreamy as to expect one.
No advance knowledge, as your bluster continues (bizarrely so, now that we know what happened). Anyone can go back for the many, many posts discussing VFIN, massive share marketing, and disbelief that the huge amounts of trades could be contained by the alleged 690 million float.
The record speaks for itself, I am content.
Regardless of the day-to-day movements ahead of us, the wise consensus on the boards right now is indeed that PLNI is not an investment but rather a swing trader's target. That makes sense.
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A little analysis from plni kinda optimist rrm, in another round of naked-short talk:
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'sjnc:
I am sure there is a huge naked short issue now.'
I agree with much of what you say, but there are now two really points that need to be clarified:
1) I thought there was only one possibility for months and that was vaporshares (Naked Short Selling). I now believe it is "manipulative short selling." I belive that because the number of shares sold into the float did not require NSS at all. If the OS had stayed at 2.3B, then NSS would have been required to create the declines and volumes involved. That wasnt the case. I now believe that MM's saw the company selling into the float and took advantage of the dilution by legally shorting the stock. The end game is the same if a restructure is announced... a rush to cover. That also explains the daily unwinding. ==============
Personally I don't think shorting is the controlling factor here--IMHO it would be statistical noise compared to the massive dilution we just learned about. But just thought I'd add another analysis of the stock to the mix.
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OK state...you decided you want to start something? I was here posting how this is a potential swing and folks can make some money...I did...How about you?
Not gloating hey? that's funny...You were really looking for an apology...now that's really funny...Kiss off state...No risk for you...It's like a little girl playing house...
The real folks on this thread are the ones playing the stock..You are not...Your opinion and stockhunters opinions or how you feel that I treat you means zero to me...nada...nothing... None of that helps me trade PLNI..
Keep slamming this company without any risk and I'll be here...You see I'm one of the folks on the field at the PLNI ballpark not home playing tea and dolls with the neighborhood girls... listening to the game on the radio...
Oh...one more thing...RRM can run circles around you in trading pennies...One of the best folks with charts I ever met...Remember...you bought high and sold low...Not a good way to make bank....Buy low and sell high...see??? Get it???
Your not even in the same league with Rick...RRM...He's here to make money...why are you here? You may be "content" but Rick and I are going to the bank...Friday was a great swing for us...How about you..??? Did mommy let you come out and play????
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The stocks that do have NSS problems become targets because they are sick or fraudulent companies for the most part. I pointed out some time ago that PLNI not being on the Reg Sho list should refocus people's attention on the company as the source of the dilution. The cycle of faith, hope and trust will begin again starting now. As new people buy in or oldtimers add to positions the fancifully optimistic theories will reemerge. NSS is one of the tried and true staples of the dilutional. The lack of PRs will probably be spun with optimistic assumptions as well.
The best we can do is forward a logical analysis and interpretation of facts, events, and history. Otherwise the company gets a free ride to repeat the cycle of dishonest behaviour.
A note of caution regarding swing trading this stock. The level of discontent and feedback to the regulatory authorities is very high, even for a pink. Given the degree and magnitude of deceptive behavior from this company, there is a real risk that on any give day the SEC could order a 10 day trading halt. Where it would open after that is anybody's guess. It would only be good if the full airing of the facts produces a positive outlook. That is far from certain. So anyone buying for a swing needs to ask whether they could afford to be without those funds for a couple weeks.
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People who swing trade don't get out! They are in the middle of a swing...They are playing the stock...Buy low...sell high...buy low again ...sell high again..
Your criticising me for playing the stock...now that's funny sheet...while you sit with no shares complaining and advising others who do own shares...I wonder how many held long while you were dishing out the gloom and doom instead of making helping them make money on PLNI...Look at your posts on Friday...Anyone say sell at the low???? Nooooo just more criticizing... I wonder how many bought into that...and then sold for a loss like you? Interesting question hey?
Darn boy...This place is here to make money
quote:Originally posted by state780: Wow.
On Wednesday, when Bear got out, I was putting up with this:
quote:State...Why does it not surprise me you think the float is higher..? No evidence of that just pure scepticism...You must have played on a sports team that never won a game...You need enthusiasm and teamwork to win...not someone sitting on the bench beeching...
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Hi Bear. I post analysis of the stock regardless of whether I agree with it, because it helps broaden my view. I post virtually nothing about the motives or tea-drinking preferences of people I don't know because such observations from either side don't increase my knowledge or create an atmosphere where rational analysis is welcomed from all quarters.
I post rrm in particular, from time to time, because although I believe he is overly optimistic, he usually has a logical rationale for his anlaysis. I also sometimes cite him as an aide to setting the record straight. For example, a few pages back I cited rrm to make it clear that Turek had not promised to deliver the audit by the end of January, but rather news about the audit.
Back to the topic at hand, I endorse Stockhunter's cautions. Even absent any nasty surprises on Monday, I admit I have no feel for which way the stock will go on Monday. On the one hand, attention in PLNI is high, bringing in new potential buyers unfamiliar with the record. On the other hand, the stock was slowly declining even before the dilution bomb hit on Friday. All things being equal (and they never are, on pinks) one could have expected another 5-10% decline on Monday anyway. Now, I think it's just a race between the massive dilution on the one hand and whatever hype Turek can come up with on the other.
Go with open eyes, everyone, as usual.
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I had heard this was part of the "Worms" plan to put PLNI down and out...Is this where you got it from? The same as the share information prior to the announcement? I hear your posts are all over his " Master" site...
I had planned on getting out Monday and looking closely at PLNI...this is good information to have that the bears and "Master" PLNI bashers plan is now to get the SEC to shut down trading...quite a lofty goal...wonder where that will drive the PPS? Wonder how many investors will suffer?
Let me admit.... your last sentence is typical of a level 4 basher...Congratulations, that was slick...Nice move stock...Wondering a few things...State must be in training still..Your his mentor aren't you? The "Worm" yours? Or are you even closer than that? The connection is obvious now...
So let me see if I have this right? Part of the plan to take down PLNI is to get the daytraders and swingtraders off this stock?....then... Get the SEC to shut down trading...I remember your call to arms and get folks calling and writing the SEC...Same time as the "Master" blog...hmmmmm..Plus either you or state is monitoring the Allstocks blog almost minute to mminute now...Any other blogs with different names? ...Not letting anything get by you guys hey?
Well OK...I'll factor the new possibilities in...Maybe just swing GZFX for a while...You don't have that one in your cross hairs...do you? I guess I should be grateful for the heads up....but...
Damn boy...wonder how many employees are at PLNI, Promold and Semco...?? Wonder how their families will get by after this raid by the "Master" is done?
A note of caution regarding swing trading this stock. The level of discontent and feedback to the regulatory authorities is very high, even for a pink. Given the degree and magnitude of deceptive behavior from this company, there is a real risk that on any give day the SEC could order a 10 day trading halt. Where it would open after that is anybody's guess. It would only be good if the full airing of the facts produces a positive outlook. That is far from certain. So anyone buying for a swing needs to ask whether they could afford to be without those funds for a couple weeks.
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PLNI shareholders... If anyone is interested...do some DD on what happens to a company when there is a "Bear Raid" on a company...especially in pennyland... There was a special on 60 Minutes that touched on this issue when reporting on Naked shorting... Good hunting...
I'm not sure exactly what is happening with PLNI but those flags are coming up the past few weeks...
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quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: I had heard this was part of the "Worms" plan to put PLNI down and out...Is this where you got it from? The same as the share information prior to the announcement? I hear your posts are all over his " Master" site...
I had planned on getting out Monday and looking closely at PLNI...this is good information to have that the bears and "Master" PLNI bashers plan is now to get the SEC to shut down trading...quite a lofty goal...wonder where that will drive the PPS? Wonder how many investors will suffer?
Let me admit.... your last sentence is typical of a level 4 basher...Congratulations, that was slick...Nice move stock...Wondering a few things...State must be in training still..Your his mentor aren't you? The "Worm" yours? Or are you even closer than that? The connection is obvious now...
So let me see if I have this right? Part of the plan to take down PLNI is to get the daytraders and swingtraders off this stock?....then... Get the SEC to shut down trading...I remember your call to arms and get folks calling and writing the SEC...Same time as the "Master" blog...hmmmmm..Plus either you or state is monitoring the Allstocks blog almost minute to minute now...Any other blogs with different names? ...Not letting anything get by you guys hey?
Well OK...I'll factor the new possibilities in...Maybe just swing GZFX for a while...You don't have that one in your cross hairs...do you? I guess I should be grateful for the heads up....but...
Damn boy...wonder how many employees are at PLNI, Promold and Semco...?? Wonder how their families will get by after this raid by the "Master" is done?
Posted by Stockhunter... "A note of caution regarding swing trading this stock. The level of discontent and feedback to the regulatory authorities is very high, even for a pink. Given the degree and magnitude of deceptive behavior from this company, there is a real risk that on any give day the SEC could order a 10 day trading halt. Where it would open after that is anybody's guess. It would only be good if the full airing of the facts produces a positive outlook. That is far from certain. So anyone buying for a swing needs to ask whether they could afford to be without those funds for a couple weeks."
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Some people analyze the stock. Other people analyze the people who analyze the stock. I know which one I think is more productive!
You know, one of the things that strikes me about the NSS talk is how unnecessary it is. When a company misses deadlines, makes secret a/s filings still unexplained more than three months later, and boosts the o/s while tripling the float, also without explanation--well, why should anyone be surprised with a decline?
That's why I say, from time to time, that the decline is rational market behavior. I think that's a fair opinion.
Have a good weekend, all, and Go Steelers!
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quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: I had heard this was part of the "Worms" plan to put PLNI down and out...Is this where you got it from? The same as the share information prior to the announcement? I hear your posts are all over his " Master" site...
I had planned on getting out Monday and looking closely at PLNI...this is good information to have that the bears and "Master" PLNI bashers plan is now to get the SEC to shut down trading...quite a lofty goal...wonder where that will drive the PPS? Wonder how many investors will suffer?
Let me admit.... your last sentence is typical of a level 4 basher...Congratulations, that was slick...Nice move stock...Wondering a few things...State must be in training still..Your his mentor aren't you? The "Worm" yours? Or are you even closer than that? The connection is obvious now...
So let me see if I have this right? Part of the plan to take down PLNI is to get the daytraders and swingtraders off this stock?....then... Get the SEC to shut down trading...I remember your call to arms and get folks calling and writing the SEC...Same time as the "Master" blog...hmmmmm..Plus either you or state is monitoring the Allstocks blog almost minute to minute now...Any other blogs with different names? ...Not letting anything get by you guys hey?
Well OK...I'll factor the new possibilities in...Maybe just swing GZFX for a while...You don't have that one in your cross hairs...do you? I guess I should be grateful for the heads up....but...
Damn boy...wonder how many employees are at PLNI, Promold and Semco...?? Wonder how their families will get by after this raid by the "Master" is done?
Posted by Stockhunter... "A note of caution regarding swing trading this stock. The level of discontent and feedback to the regulatory authorities is very high, even for a pink. Given the degree and magnitude of deceptive behavior from this company, there is a real risk that on any give day the SEC could order a 10 day trading halt. Where it would open after that is anybody's guess. It would only be good if the full airing of the facts produces a positive outlook. That is far from certain. So anyone buying for a swing needs to ask whether they could afford to be without those funds for a couple weeks."
I take exception to your attacks on State and StockHunter. Your attempt to suppress the excellent research and information that these two people have posted for your own greed is very clear. Had many long term investors listened to these two posters, instead of you, they would not be stuck in this stock at this price level.
Owning the stock does not give YOU any more right to express your opionions than the any other person on the stock message boards. The fact is that you sell your shares, while at the same time attacking people that post factual, but negative, information - This has a multiple effect on decreasing the stock price than them and shows the greedy type of person that you are.
Care to debate any of this?
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Hey State...
Now this shows your trading skills...
People who swing trade don't get out! They are in the middle of a swing...They are playing the stock...Buy low...sell high...buy low again ...sell high again..
Your criticising me for playing the stock...now that's funny sheet...while you sit with no shares complaining and advising others who do own shares...I wonder how many held long while you were dishing out the gloom and doom instead of making helping them make money on PLNI...Look at your posts on Friday...Anyone say sell at the low???? Nooooo just more criticizing... I wonder how many bought into that...and then sold for a loss like you? Interesting question hey?
Darn boy...This place is here to make money
quote:Originally posted by state780: Wow.
On Wednesday, when Bear got out, I was putting up with this:
quote:State...Why does it not surprise me you think the float is higher..? No evidence of that just pure scepticism...You must have played on a sports team that never won a game...You need enthusiasm and teamwork to win...not someone sitting on the bench beeching...
Just wondering....How do you know the level of feedback to the SEC is very high even for pinks? Where are you getting this information? Is it the same place where the information of the share count came before it was public? How do you know a trading shut down is imminent? Makes me wonder what's really going on...and you and state wondered why me and others came after you and some of the "Master" bloggers?
Posted by Stockhunter... "A note of caution regarding swing trading this stock. The level of discontent and feedback to the regulatory authorities is very high, even for a pink. Given the degree and magnitude of deceptive behavior from this company, there is a real risk that on any give day the SEC could order a 10 day trading halt. Where it would open after that is anybody's guess. It would only be good if the full airing of the facts produces a positive outlook. That is far from certain. So anyone buying for a swing needs to ask whether they could afford to be without those funds for a couple weeks." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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quote:Originally posted by theW: Bearclaw
I take exception to your attacks on State and StockHunter. Your attempt to suppress the excellent research and information that these two people have posted for your own greed is very clear. Had many long term investors listened to these two posters, instead of you, they would not be stuck in this stock at this price level.
Owning the stock does not give YOU any more right to express your opionions than the any other person on the stock message boards. The fact is that you sell your shares, while at the same time attacking people that post factual, but negative, information - This has a multiple effect on decreasing the stock price than them and shows the greedy type of person that you are.
Care to debate any of this?
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Hey State...
Now this shows your trading skills...
People who swing trade don't get out! They are in the middle of a swing...They are playing the stock...Buy low...sell high...buy low again ...sell high again..
Your criticising me for playing the stock...now that's funny sheet...while you sit with no shares complaining and advising others who do own shares...I wonder how many held long while you were dishing out the gloom and doom instead of making helping them make money on PLNI...Look at your posts on Friday...Anyone say sell at the low???? Nooooo just more criticizing... I wonder how many bought into that...and then sold for a loss like you? Interesting question hey?
Darn boy...This place is here to make money
quote:Originally posted by state780: Wow.
On Wednesday, when Bear got out, I was putting up with this:
quote:State...Why does it not surprise me you think the float is higher..? No evidence of that just pure scepticism...You must have played on a sports team that never won a game...You need enthusiasm and teamwork to win...not someone sitting on the bench beeching...
Note this was "theW"'s first post here...Do some DD and talk to your friends about the Worm and his website...I'm told he has a huge resentment for Turek and PLNI......I encourage all to look into the possibility of an attack on PLNI....I'm starting to look right now and am on the phone...this could be a devestating development for this stock if there is the possibility of an organized attempt to shut down trading...
I don't know exactly what is happening but this is beginning to smell...
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Whether I invest in PLNI or not IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS....and is not relevant...
I can tell you this, I have not been selling PLNI stock into the market while posting positive information about the stock like you have in a two-sided greedy manner.
This is a board intended for the discussion of PLNI, whether good or bad - that will lead to readers making a better decision whether to buy or sell the stock.
Care to debate PLNI, your postings, State postings, or any other matter that has been posted on this message board?
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Who is "The W" ?
Does the "W" stand for Worm?
I don't care what you take exception to..Do you invest in PLNI?
quote:Originally posted by theW: Bearclaw
I take exception to your attacks on State and StockHunter. Your attempt to suppress the excellent research and information that these two people have posted for your own greed is very clear. Had many long term investors listened to these two posters, instead of you, they would not be stuck in this stock at this price level.
Owning the stock does not give YOU any more right to express your opionions than the any other person on the stock message boards. The fact is that you sell your shares, while at the same time attacking people that post factual, but negative, information - This has a multiple effect on decreasing the stock price than them and shows the greedy type of person that you are.
Care to debate any of this?
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Hey State...
Now this shows your trading skills...
People who swing trade don't get out! They are in the middle of a swing...They are playing the stock...Buy low...sell high...buy low again ...sell high again..
Your criticising me for playing the stock...now that's funny sheet...while you sit with no shares complaining and advising others who do own shares...I wonder how many held long while you were dishing out the gloom and doom instead of making helping them make money on PLNI...Look at your posts on Friday...Anyone say sell at the low???? Nooooo just more criticizing... I wonder how many bought into that...and then sold for a loss like you? Interesting question hey?
Darn boy...This place is here to make money
quote:Originally posted by state780: Wow.
On Wednesday, when Bear got out, I was putting up with this:
quote:State...Why does it not surprise me you think the float is higher..? No evidence of that just pure scepticism...You must have played on a sports team that never won a game...You need enthusiasm and teamwork to win...not someone sitting on the bench beeching...
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Bear, if you cruise around the boards a bit, you will find several people talking about contacting the SEC. One fellow on RB composed a letter to the Wyoming Secretary of State. Another on another board (I think SI, I've lost track) said he's writing to so many agencies I think he may have made one up!
Stock didn't say he knew any kind of a shutdown was imminent. He did one of the things he does best--he looked at the evidence, explained his chain of reasoning and made an educated inference. When a bunch of people out there say they're contacting authorities, and when there is a reasonable basis for doing so (for example, issuing PRs about share buyback while exploding the count), well, no conspiracy is required to form that conclusion.
Anyway I hope we can focus on the stock.
Is it raining EVERYWHERE in the world? That's the only reason I can think we're still here! I'm out to a (covered) driving range, or a bookstore. I will look at pictures of happy little puppy dogs.
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It was just released that the company, while stating that it was buying back shares, issued 1.4 billion common shares in a period of about 1 1/2 months....the company is its own worse enemy...just the posting of those figures is all the information that investors need to know...
lets go...are you afraid to debate PLNI, your trading methods, your attacks on other posters, and your greed?
why?
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: PLNI Shareholders..
Note this was "theW"'s first post here...Do some DD and talk to your friends about the Worm and his website...I'm told he has a huge resentment for Turek and PLNI......I encourage all to look into the possibility of an attack on PLNI....I'm starting to look right now and am on the phone...this could be a devestating development for this stock if there is the possibility of an organized attempt to shut down trading...
I don't know exactly what is happening but this is beginning to smell...
I'm honored that you've taken the time to call me out here on Allstocks...I'm going to watch some college basketball and ponder this new development....This is kind of like Hitler talking to the guy taking tickets at the local Strand Theatre...
Wonder what might be happening this week with PLNI that you got off your Grand Poopaw Throne and lowered yourself to my level...After all...I'm just a penny Swingtrader...Oh Great One...
I do think it's funny that State brought in his mentor Stockhunter who then called the Grand Master Poopaw..."The worm" who has his own Bears website...Now this warrents checking out...
Gonna call some fellow Bulls and Swingtraders now who believe in PLNI...Gonna be a fun week...
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