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All I know is that it's going to get even more interesting now!

[Cool]

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quote:
Originally posted by Zman:
Shlik:

Don't take the contents of one of my post and turn them around for your own personal use without at least giving me credit for the idea. By doing so, you only prove to everyone that you are a follower with little or no imagination.

To the dilution dumbs***s:

With regards to the dilution issue, the answer is right in front of us and very simple. Here is how it goes:

Over the past several months, Q has released PR's announcing stock buyback programs. From what was released, we know at least 3% was bought back by the company. Frank has also released PR's that expressed his displeasure with Q's pps, his intention to investigate manipulation, and the converting of his 53% stake into preferred shares with voting rights. Beyond a reasonable doubt, this would lead the average observer(jury) to believe that Frank is working for the benefit of the companies shareholders. Here is where it gets tricky. Frank converted his common shares into preferred shares with voting rights. While it reduced the float by 53%, it still left Frank with complete controll of the company. It is possible that Frank could sell his stake for a considerable amount of money before Q ever makes a major run. If that were the case we would all be screwed, because the new owner would RS the hell out of Q, or we would end up with a fractional number of the new owners shares. In this scenario we the common shareholders get screwed three ways sideways. Although this scenario is possible, we can pretty much be assured that Frank has no intentions of doing this. By releasing PR's that state his desire to raise pps and aid shareholders, Frank has already built the prosecutions case against him. If he screws us, he is guilty of fraud and there is no way he can win. In the end, he loses hundreds of millions of dollars and his freedom. This same concept can be applied to the dilution issue. Based upon his past PR's, Frank has placed himself in a no win situation. Diluting shares at this point would be fraud, and it would end up being uncovered. Again, Frank would lose hundreds of millions of dollars and his freedom.

On the other hand, if he plays it straight, he makes a few speculators a **** load of money, maintains the ability to cash out for hundreds of millions of dollars(if not more), and spends the rest of his life living in luxury.

Which path would you take?

Some of you out there need to plug your f*****g brains into a power source before you post.

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Wonderful dose of reality!!!!!!!

I know many investors had heavy losses in 2001. That is called risks.

However, they have had many opportunities to re-invest at a much lower pps with a much higher potential.

As Frank inched out on the proverbial limb through his investor messages and PR's, the more shares I have accumulated.

Sure Frank wants to increase his wealth--don't we all?

He is also a man with a dream and a plan to fulfill his mission.

Now he is on the brink of attaining all three.

Go Frank!

Just happy to be along for the ride. [Wink]

Have a star.....

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I now get Logo on Direct TV and have been checking it out on occasion. Man is it terrible. Once everyone has several options, they will flock to Q televison.(I have not seen the Q but it has to be better by accident) I can't count how many times they have showed the movie about the guys running around the countryside in a pink bus.
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Hi Clyde.

Perhaps Logo isn't too concerned about improving.

They have the bucks to buy the best competition.


Investing is quicker and easier--remember the need for the high A/S.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
Maybe this will put the selling of another channel to rest [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by pennnies:
Founder and CEO Frank Olsen to speak at University of California, Riverside, Leadership Exploration and Development Series on 1 June 2005. http://www.studentlife.ucr.edu/involvement/lead.html


"Presenter: Frank Olsen, President/CEO of Q Television Network
Location: Terrace Room A (University Commons)
About the Presenter: Frank Olsen is President/CEO of Q Television Network, a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc.. Mr. Olsen has been in the broadcasting industry for over 35 years and has helped shape minority programming. He created Q Television Network to provide quality programming for and about the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender communities around the world. Mr. Olsen previously launched the first radio station focused on African Americans and their culture in Seattle. He entered the television arena with a four-hour home shopping program which was the forerunner of the current home shopping channels. He was president of The Hospitality Movie Channel which he sold that business to Showtime/Viacom. In addition to his broadcasting ventures, Mr. Olsen has also worked in the LGBT communities, starting 17 clubs centered on LGBT entertainment. His wealth of experience in broadcasting and business, combined with his creativity, has helped him bring Q Television Network to a national audience and create the premiere LGBT television network of his dreams."


That's what I want to do is put this to rest but,
other than that biography for the U of C Riverside speech in June(that some student probably put together), or a link to Matt's site, I can find nothing, nada, zilch. I've put "The Hospitality Movie Channel" into five different search engines and came up with Jack Squat. In fact, I cannot find any connection between Frank Olsen and any other television network period.

Has Frank or Richard ever stated this as a fact? Or has this just been repeated over and over again by optimistic shareholders?

Can someone please enlighten me with some facts about these claims because for us to keep claiming this as fact if it is not does more harm to the credibility of our stock than any basher could.

Just the other day buckwheat bob(whom I consider a credible regular poster here) elaborated on this notion by saying "stations"(plural), and that Frank profited "a tidy sum" on the sale of these stations. I know it's easy to do when you're hot about the stock.

I am not trying to be negative here, as I am in this stock for the long haul, I just want to know the TRUTH, whether it's good news or bad news. And whether it comes from a "basher" or a "pumper".
Anyone who doesn't want that has another agenda and cannot and should not be trusted.

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quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
MM's buy shares from the transfer agent.
Anything else I can help you with?

Yeah, you can help me understand how if the stock is so diluted that it doesn't move when over a billion shares trade in one day, it can move 20% when only 500,000,000 shares are traded.
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Twenty percent for a micro penny is in this case two one hundredths of a penny.... yeah big move. The ask went up one tick... wow

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quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
Twenty percent for a micro penny is in this case two one hundredths of a penny.... yeah big move. The ask went up one tick... wow

It actually had a FIVE tick movement just six days prior to the "billion share/no movement day" that you keep referring to.

You're trying to say that the stock cannot move because there are too many shares, yet it did.

Maybe it was un-diluted just for that day.

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No it did went up, at a moment that day it ticked 0.0019 so that would mean it was normaly trading till the good news..and then there were 2 options: the good news was in many people bad news and they sold or the MMs were shorting, I think it is the last one, why do you not mension that? they can and may go short, because they also have to live of something..I did say did already a lot of time that those are shorts, but no one did respond, I'm not saying that I'm right but nobody seems the have an answer for that.

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how long are you going to harp on this subject.

you cant prove your point. You are entitled to your opinion and you have stated it now STFU

you dont need to waist pages on this mindless dribble.

you have made your statements and stated your possition, now move on to the next message board of a stock you dont want to buy and dont think it is going to make it.

you have gone on here for months about this all for a stock you state you are not interested in.

If you want to buy more then fine. state the price you want to buy it at and let us know when you fill. we really dont care about your $3 you have invested.

grow up and move on you have spent the better part of 2 days with this childish behavior and for what prurpose?

Now i suggest everyone stop responding to this dribble as it is doing nothing but serving this childs need for attention.

Rod

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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
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by the way i looked into this claim by my friend at the party, and it turns out that he has not got Q television it is QAT or something like this.


Sorry for posting that info with out first verifying it.

he did name Chrisanne Eastwood though which really baffled me. Im wondering if they where maybe talking about her and her show on Q Televison.

It did however freak me out.

again sorry for posting that info before i verified it, but i was excited to think that there may be a possibility of a carrier agreement in Canada.

I have sent this gentleman to our web site though and told him to investigate it and let me know what he thinks.


Rod

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something to think about:
Here's a simple question. How come the market makers are never to blame when your stock goes up?
Stock goes down? It must be a conspiracy. Somebody's doing something unfair. It's gotta be the specialists and market makers. If it's not them, it must be the naked shorts! Or those "montly fools are short!" Quite simply, it can't be my fault.
But the reverse never holds. Stock goes up? It's not market makers. It's certainly not the naked shorts. It can only be because I'm so smart. I made the right decision! I deserve my reward.
Don't believe it. There will come a time when your best-researched company falls and can't get up. Conversely, you will make some pretty uninformed-- even downright stupid -- investments, and you'll be rewarded anyway.

Although your wallet won't know, there is a difference. As you move on down the road, bad bets will eventually take their toll. A few wins won't be able to make up for years of bucking the probabilities. In the end, the odds always win, but precious few people actually care.
The bottom line is this: Building wealth through stocks depends on betting the right side of the odds more often than not. Admitting mistakes and recognizing the real reasons for your success are vital for learning where the odds are.

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Penny -trader,you have to say the name to who you wrote this else they're gonna think you sad this to me (some) because you posted that right under mine [Smile]
thnx
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
how long are you going to harp on this subject.

you cant prove your point. You are entitled to your opinion and you have stated it now STFU

you dont need to waist pages on this mindless dribble.

you have made your statements and stated your possition, now move on to the next message board of a stock you dont want to buy and dont think it is going to make it.

you have gone on here for months about this all for a stock you state you are not interested in.

If you want to buy more then fine. state the price you want to buy it at and let us know when you fill. we really dont care about your $3 you have invested.

grow up and move on you have spent the better part of 2 days with this childish behavior and for what prurpose?

Now i suggest everyone stop responding to this dribble as it is doing nothing but serving this childs need for attention.

Rod



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dont worry he knows who it is directed at

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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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Perhaps you should rename the thread to QBID mindless pumpers only thread.
Last I checked this was a free board. No gates around this thread as far as I can tell.

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What do you care if I waste space on this thread... this is the ninety second page of the one hundred and tenth thread devoted to QBID and it's death spiral. It doesn't matter.

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Does anyone think the possiblity of these after hours trades could actually shares being retired?

Or are they actual sales going through?

Is there anyway to tell the difference?

(My hope is they are retiting shares)

4.5mm and holding - next sell between .006 & .009 depending

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jonas you are a smart person good post

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jonas, just wondering where u copied this from.
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
something to think about:
Here's a simple question. How come the market makers are never to blame when your stock goes up?
Stock goes down? It must be a conspiracy. Somebody's doing something unfair. It's gotta be the specialists and market makers. If it's not them, it must be the naked shorts! Or those "montly fools are short!" Quite simply, it can't be my fault.
But the reverse never holds. Stock goes up? It's not market makers. It's certainly not the naked shorts. It can only be because I'm so smart. I made the right decision! I deserve my reward.
Don't believe it. There will come a time when your best-researched company falls and can't get up. Conversely, you will make some pretty uninformed-- even downright stupid -- investments, and you'll be rewarded anyway.

Although your wallet won't know, there is a difference. As you move on down the road, bad bets will eventually take their toll. A few wins won't be able to make up for years of bucking the probabilities. In the end, the odds always win, but precious few people actually care.
The bottom line is this: Building wealth through stocks depends on betting the right side of the odds more often than not. Admitting mistakes and recognizing the real reasons for your success are vital for learning where the odds are.


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quote:
Originally posted by freebird68nj:
Does anyone think the possiblity of these after hours trades could actually shares being retired?

Or are they actual sales going through?

Is there anyway to tell the difference?

(My hope is they are retiting shares)

4.5mm and holding - next sell between .006 & .009 depending

Not how it works... there is a delay between the actual transaction and what you see on your streamer... all that activity you see after hours on an OTC stock actually occurred before 4:00

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Yes I did copy that, when I was looking for more info about MM's
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
jonas, just wondering where u copied this from.
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
something to think about:
Here's a simple question. How come the market makers are never to blame when your stock goes up?
Stock goes down? It must be a conspiracy. Somebody's doing something unfair. It's gotta be the specialists and market makers. If it's not them, it must be the naked shorts! Or those "montly fools are short!" Quite simply, it can't be my fault.
But the reverse never holds. Stock goes up? It's not market makers. It's certainly not the naked shorts. It can only be because I'm so smart. I made the right decision! I deserve my reward.
Don't believe it. There will come a time when your best-researched company falls and can't get up. Conversely, you will make some pretty uninformed-- even downright stupid -- investments, and you'll be rewarded anyway.

Although your wallet won't know, there is a difference. As you move on down the road, bad bets will eventually take their toll. A few wins won't be able to make up for years of bucking the probabilities. In the end, the odds always win, but precious few people actually care.
The bottom line is this: Building wealth through stocks depends on betting the right side of the odds more often than not. Admitting mistakes and recognizing the real reasons for your success are vital for learning where the odds are.




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quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
What do you care if I waste space on this thread... this is the ninety second page of the one hundred and tenth thread devoted to QBID and it's death spiral. It doesn't matter.

exactly, this is the most overhyped stock that never amounted to anything. people just keep pumping this stock as the price goes down. high number of threads for a pinksheet stock always means bagholders that are stuck and some here havent figured it out yet, sadly they never will till its too late.
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OK with the sales being before the close and posting later...but what about the possiblity of these large numbers being retired?

Also, I don't have anything with the trades showing in detail. Where can you recommend where I can get that information for 'real-time'. I find most info/boards are delayed (like yahoo/etrade/etc. RB seemd to be the most current for me to see pps - but take RB for what its worth - P&D, bashers, un-intelligent banter, etc)

Any referal to where it's free would be nice too.
(Is it available here through allstocks?)


quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
quote:
Originally posted by freebird68nj:
Does anyone think the possiblity of these after hours trades could actually shares being retired?

Or are they actual sales going through?

Is there anyway to tell the difference?

(My hope is they are retiting shares)

4.5mm and holding - next sell between .006 & .009 depending

Not how it works... there is a delay between the actual transaction and what you see on your streamer... all that activity you see after hours on an OTC stock actually occurred before 4:00


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BTW - I have been browsing the boards since my initial investment over 2 years ago. I want to say this sight is very informative. It is nice to se some control over negative elements and you can 'vote them off the island'. It's good to get both sides of the conversation, but outright bashing is minimal here. But has been picking up lately.

It's funny how a lot of people have a lot to sasy with 'no interest in the stock'. thank god they are being our 'friends' and putting all these hours into saving us.

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there really is not way of knowing unless you can see who is buying and selling. Unfortuantely even l2s will only show you what mm is trading them not who they are trading them for

no real answer to that.

I'm sure someone will try to convince us that it is dilution though.


quote:
Originally posted by freebird68nj:
Does anyone think the possiblity of these after hours trades could actually shares being retired?

Or are they actual sales going through?

Is there anyway to tell the difference?

(My hope is they are retiting shares)

4.5mm and holding - next sell between .006 & .009 depending



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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this was posted acouple of days ago i saw it.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
jonas, just wondering where u copied this from.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
something to think about:
Here's a simple question. How come the market makers are never to blame when your stock goes up?
Stock goes down? It must be a conspiracy. Somebody's doing something unfair. It's gotta be the specialists and market makers. If it's not them, it must be the naked shorts! Or those "montly fools are short!" Quite simply, it can't be my fault.
But the reverse never holds. Stock goes up? It's not market makers. It's certainly not the naked shorts. It can only be because I'm so smart. I made the right decision! I deserve my reward.
Don't believe it. There will come a time when your best-researched company falls and can't get up. Conversely, you will make some pretty uninformed-- even downright stupid -- investments, and you'll be rewarded anyway.

Although your wallet won't know, there is a difference. As you move on down the road, bad bets will eventually take their toll. A few wins won't be able to make up for years of bucking the probabilities. In the end, the odds always win, but precious few people actually care.
The bottom line is this: Building wealth through stocks depends on betting the right side of the odds more often than not. Admitting mistakes and recognizing the real reasons for your success are vital for learning where the odds are.




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Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.

This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
there really is not way of knowing unless you can see who is buying and selling. Unfortuantely even l2s will only show you what mm is trading them not who they are trading them for

no real answer to that.

I'm sure someone will try to convince us that it is dilution though.


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Originally posted by freebird68nj:
Does anyone think the possiblity of these after hours trades could actually shares being retired?

Or are they actual sales going through?

Is there anyway to tell the difference?

(My hope is they are retiting shares)

4.5mm and holding - next sell between .006 & .009 depending


Dilution is when the company tells the transfer agent to create more shares and sell them to the Market Makers... there is no ticker on this transaction and no way to prove it did or didn't happen. Shares traded on the open market that you see on your streamer have nothing to do with dillution.
It is amazing how little you really know about the fundamentals of a game you seem to feel you should be preaching about.
You have become emotional about a stock that has no chance of ever recovering from it's death spiral.
Seriously how much are you down on your initial investment?

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you noticed that too? they like to convince them selves that they are Robin Hood of the investment world.

and by the way there is trading activity that takes place after hours. if you go to the below link you will see the rules for buyback state that they can buy back in the last 10 minutes of the day and after hours in large even blocks.

Im not saying that that is what the after hours activity is as i am not certain. I am certain though that it is not dilution.

http://www.dorsey.com/publications/legal_detail.aspx?FlashNavID=pubs_legal&pubid=123659603

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BTW - I have been browsing the boards since my initial investment over 2 years ago. I want to say this sight is very informative. It is nice to se some control over negative elements and you can 'vote them off the island'. It's good to get both sides of the conversation, but outright bashing is minimal here. But has been picking up lately.

It's funny how a lot of people have a lot to sasy with 'no interest in the stock'. thank god they are being our 'friends' and putting all these hours into saving us.



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Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.

This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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has anyone on this board actualyl ever talked to frank? and if so what kind of impressions did you get from him? im sure investor relations does the talking but didnt know if maybe someone has bumped in to him someplace

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yes i believe there are a few. I spoke with him on the phone last year at one point. He is a nice guy, but crude in his speach. I like the guy actually.

I have not spoke to him since.

Im sure there are some here though that have.

I know of at least one for sure but i will let that person speak up about it if they so desire.

there have been several that have met with him in Dallas as well.

Rod

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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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Word for word, line by line, verse by verse......
same song, second verse..........always sadder than the first.

We have read your repetitive posts.

You have our attention. We know that you are back.

Now, what can we do for you?

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I talked to Frank briefly in Atlanta at Joe's He was very curtious.

Hi Penny Trader.

Q keeps moving forward, just wish the pps started tracking.

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i came across this article on the ihub board i think some of you would enjoy reading it.


nice writeup on Cheryl Jacques...

Another Battle for Civil Rights
By SWANEE HUNT
Jul 21, 2005, 00:53
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When Cheryl Jacques walks into a room, she commands attention. Tall, elegant and professional, she has a broad smile and firm handshake. The proud mother of mischievous twin 3-year-old boys, Cheryl balances her rewarding family life with a robust career.

An accomplished lawyer, she served six terms in the Massachusetts state Senate and was known for authoring one of the nation's toughest gun-control laws. She currently practices law in Boston and will be a Fellow at Harvard's Institute of Politics this fall. Cheryl has long been an outspoken leader in the modern civil-rights movement; in fact, she's gay.

Many gays and lesbians share their sexual identity -- and the many challenges they face -- with family and friends. Still, many straight Americans don't know what gays are really up against.

In 34 states, they can be fired based on sexual orientation alone. When Cheryl told her father about this fact, he reacted as many do: "Not in America!" But it's true, and that's only one strand of a larger pattern of discrimination.

In hospitals around the country, gays and lesbians are often prevented from visiting loved ones during medical emergencies because they're not legally recognized as next of kin.

Cheryl shared with me the story of a woman who recently passed away after a long battle with cancer. The coroner refused to allow her life partner to sign the death certificate. What a bitter moment for the woman who had nursed her for a year and a half.

Same-sex couples are also denied more than 1,000 federal benefits available to heterosexual married couples, including Social Security benefits upon the death of a spouse.

The fierce debate over gay marriage is at the heart of the struggle for equal rights. But in Canada last month, the House of Commons passed legislation that would make gay marriage legal by the end of July, provided the Senate passes the same bill _ which it's expected to do. Two days later, traditionally Roman Catholic Spain passed a law allowing gay couples to marry, adopt children and inherit property.

But here in America, the controversy continues.

Opponents cite with great zeal the so-called "sanctity of marriage" between a man and a woman. But let's not forget that more than half of all heterosexual marriages end in divorce. Last summer, one equal-rights supporter carried a sign asking an elected official which of his three marriages he was interested in protecting.

Not only is the level of intervention in Americans' private lives astounding, the hypocrisy is almost too much to bear.

Earlier this year, the Texas House of Representatives passed legislation that would prohibit gays from becoming foster parents, as if their sexual orientation is contagious or disqualifies them from being caring human beings. Rep. Robert Talton, who introduced the amendment, proclaimed, "It is our responsibility to make sure that we protect our most vulnerable children."

It's a shame that -- as we argue about bedroom politics -- hundreds of thousands of children need foster care to find a safe home. In 2003, almost 300,000 children entered foster care, mostly due to parental abuse or neglect. By preventing qualified gay couples from becoming foster parents, are we really protecting at-risk children, or are we, in fact, denying them the chance to find safe and loving homes?

Of course, America is no stranger to the struggle for social equality. Rights we now consider self-evident were once hotly debated. It took 140 years for women to win a constitutional amendment allowing them to vote. During the women's-suffrage movement, a medical doctor offered "factual evidence" that if women were given the vote, their bodies would divert juices from their uteruses to their brains, resulting in a generation of malformed children. I think we've turned out just fine.

Less than 50 years ago, racial segregation was legal in many states, with "separate but equal" meaning anything but. Today, when we see the images of attack dogs biting and fire hoses blasting black citizens in Birmingham, Ala., in the 1960s, we're appalled. We ask ourselves: How did we allow this?

The great 19th-century philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer said: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

I imagine and hope that, when it comes to basic civil rights for gays, our grandchildren will ask, "What were you thinking?"


(Swanee Hunt, former U.S. ambassador to Austria, teaches at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government and is author of "This Was Not Our War: Bosnian Women Reclaiming the Peace." She can be reached at response(at)swaneehunt.org.)


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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
has anyone on this board actualyl ever talked to frank? and if so what kind of impressions did you get from him? im sure investor relations does the talking but didnt know if maybe someone has bumped in to him someplace

Yes on a number of occaisions. Course voice, energetic, sold on his mission of making "Q" a great success, as if this will be his legacy. He is attentive, uses some abrasive language, has a drive, does not like to be told "no" and is very strong willed. He is the type of guy who loves challenge, stops at no barriers and I sure would not want to be one of his enemies.

That is why I like him, he is not a yes man and he usually gets what he wants.

GO QBID!!!!! Bring On The Green [Big Grin]

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I think based on your analogy, you are a definite beginner. Obviously you have no clue what you are looking for.

Second of all I have no intentions of even attempting to impress one who is not even toilet trained. You are just another snot nose bashing a$$ who thinks he knows it all.

So one thing the board would like to know is what other alias you post under. There is a bunch of bashers who don’t seem to be present and suddenly some snot nose under aged pimple popping twit shows up and tries to tell a board full off people who knows what they have decided and why they have decided, what to do.

Jr. Kindergarten starts in 2 weeks, don’t be late for registration.


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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
Ok fool,question for you. If no one is selling then how does an MM buy 100's of millions of shares?

Answer=NAKED SHORTING!

Watch your L2's and see how the puzzle is put together

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Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
4art... you don't know do you... squirming... aren't you.
were it not for your investment in this company you could easily find the answer.


First off.... I do watch level two... I do watch the last sale streamer... and from these two tools I can easily tell you there is no shorting going on... You hardly ever see anything go through at the bid price... most everything is buys... not sells.
When you short a stock you typically have to sell at the bid price and cover at the ask price...
Secondly.... Save your delusional aggression for someone who is impressed by it.. or you.



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