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also add into your calculations that there was a billion shares retired of franks personal shares back in december. and along with that there intial buyback was for a billion shares.
if you do the math right you will find that your figures are high.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by polo1110: I hate to keep bringing up the O/S count, but I'm curious as to how some of you calculate what you estimate the O/S number to be. The way I understand it, we have the information we need (from the conference call) and subsequent PRs:
"9.5 billion shares in oustanding, with an additional 5-6 billion as a security on financing"
We also know there was at least a 2-3% buyback.
"We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares."
I just don't understand how many on this board are comming up with a number closer to 3 billion. It seems to me the estimation should fall somewhere between 4.33105 and 7.1319 billion shares outstanding. Please help me understand. Thanks.
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quote:Originally posted by justplayin: Does anybody REALLY (and back it with fact) know the share structure??
This would help greatly to know how much the company needs to be worth to have the pps reach .01!
Thanks in advance for your help.
No. Not until the audit is released to the public and the company resumes filing reports with the SEC. That's why everyone is waiting on the audit to come out.
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quote:Originally posted by pennnies: FOT hit me with some eod L2's... How we looking. We need that next down tick.
Thanks!
Sorry I didn't have them open to see....
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quote:Originally posted by pennnies: FOT hit me with some eod L2's... How we looking. We need that next down tick.
Thanks!
Sorry I didn't have them open to see....
no biggie.. If you remember pm me the L2's sometime after lunch or something. Hope we get that downtick.
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Rumor Stocks: Good Buys Aren't Always What They Seem April 21, 2004 Walter B. Schubert Jr.
After 25 years on Wall Street, it still amazes me how intelligent human beings continue to be drawn into the too-good-to be-true, once-in-a-lifetime investment opportunity.
The latest rumor stock to cross my path is Triangle MultiMedia Limited, promoted as a new gay cable channel (not to be confused with media giant Viacom's (NYSE: VIA) plans for a gay network called Outlet, or Canada's PrideVision TV).
In this case, a neighbor I hadn't seen in ages but who remembered me and that I was gay, stopped by last weekend to ask me about "that new gay cable channel," Triangle MultiMedia.
I told my neighbor I had heard of the company, and had in fact received some emails from GFN readers asking why we hadn’t written anything about them. I also noticed "the action" in the stock in the past few weeks – hundreds of millions of shares changing hands – and that its price had moved from less than one cent a share up to as high as 3 cents a share.
Yes, you read correctly - that’s the total price of a share.
Triangle Multimedia Limited, Inc. of Palm Springs California (OTC symbol QBID) is a penny stock traded in the Pink Sheets (more on that in a moment). My neighbor claimed he has been day trading this stock for a while with his average daily positions in the millions of shares.
So now I'm more than a little curious – I needed to know more about this company. Easier said than done.
Finding any hard information on Triangle MultiMedia Limited at all was nearly impossible. I started first with the company's own Web site, a scant affair of about 700 words, but it gave no information for any potential investor.
Of course, there's nothing like going to the source, so I called the company. Unfortunately, there was no one to speak with besides the guys answering the phone, and there was nothing they could send me, and no investor relations man or woman to call me back. But they did tell me "stuff" is coming, a declaration that didn't instill confidence.
Next stop was the Securities Exchange Commissions EDGAR filing system. This is where one can go to see company filings like a 10K or 10Q reports, the reports that listed public companies, like those that trade on the NYSE, must file.
After spending some time searching for information I could reasonably base an investment decision on from the SEC, I found nothing … because there are no reports on file at the SEC on Triangle.
That's not so unusual in this case, though, because this is a penny stock traded in what's called the Pink Sheets, a name derived from the color of the paper that penny stocks daily quotations used to be printed on. (It has nothing to do with anything gay, just a happy coincidence.)
But what are the Pink Sheets anyway, and are they a reliable research tool?
The first thing to know is, the Pink Sheets is not a stock exchange and is not regulated by any governmental entity such as the SEC.
Price quotations are provided by Over the Counter, or OTC, market makers and company information is provided by the OTC companies themselves. Investors should be aware that any market quotation information is not verified and has not been reviewed by any regulatory body.
The Pink Sheets is a centralized quotation service that disseminates market maker quotes (those are the licensed individuals registered with the SEC – not my neighbor) for OTC securities.
OTC securities are issued by companies that either choose not to, or are unable to, meet the standards for listing on the NASDAQ or a stock exchange. Quotation of a security in the Pink Sheets does not in itself create any ongoing filing or reporting obligations with the SEC or the NASD for the issuer.
In simple terms this means they usually contain a high degree of risk. And to that I say: goodbye. Goodbye house, goodbye car, goodbye retirement, if you're trading in OTC securities with serious money.
Usually OTC issuers are small companies, very small, with sometimes only a couple of employees, very limited operating histories and usually under lots of pressure financially which means that they can quickly disappear into thin air. Investors should always be wary of any sign of fraud or manipulation.
I wish I had a special clairvoyance to pick the right stock at the right time, but there are some good, basic demarcations for those of us without magic powers. Audited financial reports, Management Discussion and Analysis, cash flows, debt ratio, product line, profitability, etc., allow those of us without the ability to see into the future some real basis to determine whether it's a reasonable risk to put one's hard-earned dollars – or pennies – into a stock.
So far, I haven't been able to get this kind of information about Triangle MultiMedia. And to invest in a company you can't get information on is, to say the least, unwise. Truth be told, I'm excited about the prospect of a gay cable channel, and would potentially invest in one. I'd love nothing more than 24/7 programming for our community and culture, similar to Robert Johnson's BET, Black Entertainment Network (a Viacom company, by the way). But is Triangle MultiMedia the investment we’ve been waiting for?
We'll keep an eye on the company going forward, hope for the best, and report next when real financial information becomes available.
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Jonas Devil Dutch French, since you posted the above article, link please. please also note this article dated April 21, 2004 when the qtv was still infantry. now, it's Aug 24, 2005 and qtv is becoming a network with so many things going on. yes, we all know it's pinksheet stock, yes we all know it's way too risk to invest in yada yada yada...what is your point of posting this 1.5 year old article from a source that link not provided ??? you know what, dont even bother about the link. why would I care a post from a multiple id poster !!! does anyone elso care outthere?
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the link http://www.gfn.com/archives/story.phtml?sid=15534 , you care because in the same post you wanted it, and in the end not, Am I the only one who's posting old articles? No, so what's the problem then? Ah I know, it's frustrating I think for some of you to see me here, first some of you tought I'm a basher, then some of you wouldn't believe that I'm from belgium, what will it be tommorow?
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quote:Originally posted by Jonas Invest: the link http://www.gfn.com/archives/story.phtml?sid=15534 , you care because in the same post you wanted it, and in the end not, Am I the only one who's posting old articles? No, so what's the problem then? Ah I know, it's frustrating I think for some of you to see me here, first some of you tought I'm a basher, then some of you wouldn't believe that I'm from belgium, what will it be tommorow?
Just wanted to point out that your english seems much more polished in this post.
...and although you're welcome to post the above article, the difference between QBID of today and QBID of back then is night and day, for those of us who have been following at least, nobody can argue that point. So to those of us who have been there from the beginning, posting such old articles is... well... silly.
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i asked you to provide a link to authenticate the article; that is what the link for just incase you dont know. what will it be tomorrow? depend on what id you are gonna use.
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Jonas if your a basher or not i dont really care. post if you want to, but if you want to be take serious, then make sure you always post the link to any article you past here. and make it a point of stating the date of the article.
If you are not a basher then that is fine, but you have exhibited the traits of a basher.
If you dont want to be called a basher, then dont walk, talk and look like a basher.
you have admitted to multiple user names which is against the rule. Why that has not been addressed by the moderator is beyond me, I know it has been brought to thier attention.
You have a tendancy to post old prs and old news which is again a tactic of the bashers.
I see you are struggling with a laguage barrier, and that again is a classic technique of a basher. If you truely are struggling with a language barrier, your posts seem to indicate that you stuggle harder on some post then other.
I never heard of someone only having a problem with a language as certain times of the day. If you are honestly struggling woth the english then i sympathises with you as i can understand language barriers are a big hurdle.
You have to prove to us that you are not here with an agenda as you have not started out on the right foot in this forum. We have seen this behavior over and over again and will continue to be leary of your intentions untill you prove otherwise.
If we are wrong about you then please understand that we are looking out for our best interest.
Rod
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Still trying to get me down You better get used to it me being here, because I'll be here for a long long time, and as I sad yersterday you can check it how many ID's I have( those who don't believe me) So if your sure about what your thinking go get the prove then, don't be dissapointed after.
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Ik ben Jonas, ik woon in belgie antwerpen meer bepaald, ik ben 22 jaar en ik kan zo door gaan met praten maitenant en francais je suis Jonas, j' habbite en Anvers, 22 ans et je peut ce continue encore avec parle You see!!!! Dutch and French
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quote:The MM's kept bouncing shares back and forth and held the price down all day to try and cover the short positions.
If you still believe this, I will sell you some CMKX shares. You can just send me the money. If you want some certificates I'll print them out on an inkjet for you. In a month or two when the stock is no longer trading you can use them as toliet paper and I'll enjoy spending your money. It's basically what Urban C. did to his shareholders.
quote:Check out PAX. (Paxson Communications). They are running at a loss and trading at .60 a share.
For all we know, Q Television has been operating at a loss for over 10 years. But we don't know how much because they don't report. If they reported, you'd see this valued appropriately. Since Frank isn't reporting, the assumption has to be that it is actually quite worse than we could possible suspect. That's the sad story of pinks.
quote:QBID is one of the worst investments at this moment in penny stocks IMO.
I disagree. CMKX, PLNI, and ICAN are in competition. At least QBID moves big once a month so some of us can make our money back.
quote:Does anybody REALLY (and back it with fact) know the share structure??
Yes. I do. Frank used to own 53% of the stock. A few weeks back he changed this to preferred stock. If you buy that he has been diluting, that means the stock at the time before that was nearly 47% of 50 billion authorized shares, or about 23 billion now.
If anyone is willing to post verbatim an email from Richard or Frank saying Frank is not diluting, I'll be willing to think otherwise, but for now, that PR and that PR alone is the second reason why I believe Frank is diluting. The first reason is hitting a new 52-week low just two days after a PR saying we were being broadcast on a national carrier.
I don't know what more proof you people need. You need to get on Frank's ass about diluting, cause it's hurting us badly and he knows it.
quote:You better get used to it me being here, because I'll be here for a long long time
If Frank is really diluting, we've got about a year left in this stock's life.
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you want to explain then who is buying and selling CMKX all day long into the 5 digits. it is not investors.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by g-invest:
quote:The MM's kept bouncing shares back and forth and held the price down all day to try and cover the short positions.
If you still believe this, I will sell you some CMKX shares. You can just send me the money. If you want some certificates I'll print them out on an inkjet for you. In a month or two when the stock is no longer trading you can use them as toliet paper and I'll enjoy spending your money. It's basically what Urban C. did to his shareholders.
quote:Check out PAX. (Paxson Communications). They are running at a loss and trading at .60 a share.
For all we know, Q Television has been operating at a loss for over 10 years. But we don't know how much because they don't report. If they reported, you'd see this valued appropriately. Since Frank isn't reporting, the assumption has to be that it is actually quite worse than we could possible suspect. That's the sad story of pinks.
quote:QBID is one of the worst investments at this moment in penny stocks IMO.
I disagree. CMKX, PLNI, and ICAN are in competition. At least QBID moves big once a month so some of us can make our money back.
quote:Does anybody REALLY (and back it with fact) know the share structure??
Yes. I do. Frank used to own 53% of the stock. A few weeks back he changed this to preferred stock. If you buy that he has been diluting, that means the stock at the time before that was nearly 47% of 50 billion authorized shares, or about 23 billion now.
If anyone is willing to post verbatim an email from Richard or Frank saying Frank is not diluting, I'll be willing to think otherwise, but for now, that PR and that PR alone is the second reason why I believe Frank is diluting. The first reason is hitting a new 52-week low just two days after a PR saying we were being broadcast on a national carrier.
I don't know what more proof you people need. You need to get on Frank's ass about diluting, cause it's hurting us badly and he knows it.
quote:You better get used to it me being here, because I'll be here for a long long time
If Frank is really diluting, we've got about a year left in this stock's life.
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Seems like gay people are busy visiting their site......http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=www.qtelevision.com
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so I was planning to do something or what? because I've 3 mobille phones it would mean that I have 3 girlfriends to cheat on it or what? like I have maybe 10 different email adresses it means that each adres I've an other karrakter or what? 4art you still didn't say how old you are? and can you write a post longer then 3 sentences, whithout LOL without quoting someone, whitout giving stars, i tried to surch yesterday some, but i couln't find it direct so I gave up
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Jonas i would not talk about someone avoiding questions. you dont answer questions yourself.
I still would like to hear your explanation as to why you have 3 different login ids. if you are not trying to look like 3 differnt people then why would you have 3 differnt ids.
I dont care how old 4Art is but is do want to hear your explanation as to why you have done this.
Rod
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HELLO EVERYONE MY NAME IS DAVID JANAS ..IM A MORTGAGE BROKER FROM LOS ANGELES..IVE BEEN VIEWING YOUR POSTS FOR A WHILE AND THINK MANY OF YOU HAVE LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION..I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION I CAN FIND ABOUT QBID BECAUSE I HAVE 20 MILLION SHARES AND IM GETTING QUITE CONCERNED THAT ITS GONNA GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION Posts: 414 | From: los angeles | Registered: Aug 2005
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Of course they don't report anything, if they did , no one would invest in it silly! But wait till next week........ Posts: 304 | From: Michigan | Registered: Apr 2004
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FIRST OF ALL AS YOU KNOW WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE "AUDIT" . I HAVE TALKED TO RICHARD AND HE STATED THAT BEFORE THEY RELEASE IT HE MUST REVIEW IT SO THEY CAN GIVE THE GOOD PR STATEMENT..THERES NO QUESTION THAT THE AUDIT IS COMING..THE MANIPULATION IN PRICE IS DEFINATELY DONE BY DAY TRADERS..BUT THE MAIN THING TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT BESIDES THE DAYTRADERS WHO CAN FLUCTUATE MANY MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS OF SHARES..THERE ARE STILL LOTS OF STRONG SOLID INVESTORS LIKE OUR SELVES WHO OWN LOTS OF SHARES AND ARE NOT SELLING TILL WE SEE A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE...THE AUDIT IS ESTIMATED TO COME WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK .WHEN I CALLED Q TODAY I ASKED TO SPEAK TO RENE BUT HE WAS OUT ON A DOCTORS APPOINTMENT..THEY ARE FULLY AWARE OF WHATS GOING ON AND IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS YOU GUYS WILL SEE SOME BIG CHANGES. THIS IS NOT A "DREAM" ..ITS JUST A GREAT COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR A WHILE BUT IF WE ALL WAIT JUST ONE WEEK...WE WILL HOPEFULLY ALL SEE REWARDS...JUDGEMENT DAY IS COMING ..WEVE WAITED THIS LONG..FOR THE NEXT WEEK ALL SHOULD PREY AND MAYBE THE GUT FEELING WE HAD ABOUT THIS STOCK WILL TURN BLESSED.. HELLO ARION AND MIKE
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Welcome! I'm not thrilled about the ALL CAPS because they remind me of U4TSAF2, (a basher here). However, five stars for you anyway. Twenty million shares! Holy Toledo!
quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: HELLO EVERYONE MY NAME IS DAVID JANAS ..IM A MORTGAGE BROKER FROM LOS ANGELES..IVE BEEN VIEWING YOUR POSTS FOR A WHILE AND THINK MANY OF YOU HAVE LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION..I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION I CAN FIND ABOUT QBID BECAUSE I HAVE 20 MILLION SHARES AND IM GETTING QUITE CONCERNED THAT ITS GONNA GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
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