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it is

were proud of you Paula.

nice work

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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
it is

were proud of you Paula.

nice work

Makes me want to order Oil of Olay for all my patients, but maybe it's to late [Big Grin] you think??

GO QBID!!!!! Grease Our Palms With Some Green.

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I'm off to the beach with the boys, so lets keep it civil around here and maybe this thing will hold steady. I for one don't want this to drop any lower than it is right now.. unlike jonas stock invest devil.

So be nice and play fair.

There will be a lot of reading to do when I get back, so please keep it entertaining.

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quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
except that report doesnt say that it is happening. it also doesnt say that Q will never report, unlike you do.

they say it may be diluted not that it is.
Im willing to entertain any information good or bad, but your childish way of behaviour does not give you any credibility.

I will admit that it is possible, and if so then i am going to be very upset with Richard and will take legal action if it turns out they where lieing to us.

I was told by Richard that absolutely no that they where not diluting the stock.

This was not told to just myself. I will hold off for a bit longer so see what the price does as we approach 30 RSI.

I still see the market makers covering shorts as a major possibility. And untill we can prove the dilution theory as being true, the manipulation is what is being sold to us by the company. they have released a pr to this effect, i would think that they have placed themselves into a legal liable state with that pr if they are indeed diluting.

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Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
Wow... that report said pretty much everything I have been saying.
Obviously smart people.


Rod or anyone else, how are investors able to take legal action against a company if they lied to its shareholders about dilution? Is that really possible?
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I know that this was addressed but I emailed Rogers cable about Q, this is their response.

Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:14:56 -0400
To: @yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Your Cable General Inquiry (KMM10648082V20774L0KM)
From: "Rogers Cable Customer Service" <rogerscabletv@rci.rogers.com> Add to Address Book


Dear KS,

Thank you for using our email service.

We regret to inform you that the Q television is not currently
available on our channel line up. We will be adding new channels to
our digital choice line up in the future. Information on any
additional channels will be announced prior to their launch.

We have forwarded your suggestion to our programming department for
future consideration.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to write us
back at any time; our Online Customer Care department can be reached
via email 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Thank you again for writing and thank you for choosing Rogers.

For future reference with respect to this e-mail, please quote
reference number 5313350.

Regards,
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quote:
Originally posted by 4Art:
Here's that report, MT! :cool:
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1)"the company is traded on the pink sheet exchange and doesnt have fully reporting financials for public review."

2)"thier second weakness, dilution"

3)"high risk"

what a great report, maybe some of you can figure it out now.

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I think that ludow report is a joke. It has no prooof or backing. It's like me writing up a report and charging $100 for it. Since am charging I must know what I am talking about. Seems funny we go from a C to a B and then back to a C and nothing happened to change our grade other then we got the COX deal which should have given us a B+ or higher. Don't listen to this crap do what you think is right.
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the report stated facts, most investors will come up with the conclusion this is a poor investment, if not thier just in denial. QBID is one of the worst investments at this moment in penny stocks IMO.
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Also before I go. We have bounced from .0014 back to .0015 a few times yesturday. Now with dilution (IMO) your price drops much faster and you don't uptick. If VERT was dumping 6 billion shares we would be under .0010 right now. I really firmly believe once we hit RSI 30 we will level then run. JMO It just doesn't feel like dilution to me.


Early buying going on. Big orders. Might open at .0015 today.. hmmm

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quote:
Originally posted by roadrunnerv8383:
the report stated facts, most investors will come up with the conclusion this is a poor investment, if not thier just in denial. QBID is one of the worst investments at this moment in penny stocks IMO.

If this is such a bad investment why invest your time posting on this thread. I allways question those who let everyone know what's good and bad but doesn't have the common sense to use their time wisely.
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also look at this chart! Everytime we have hit RSI 30 we spike. Only one time we didn't. So a run is coming. Also to me the chart shows no signs of dilution. The price being driven down by daytraders buying then getting out and slowly bring the price to this point.

http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=QBID,uu[w,a]daclyyay[de][pb50!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G

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remember QBIDs O/S was only 1.2 billion in may of 2002 and as of oct 2004 the O/S was 15.5 billion. and QBIDs costs have risen significantly with thier launch and production costs of $1.5-$2 million a month. with little or no revenue, how do you think they are paying for it all? still no current O/S count, its obvious they are diluting. and also A/S last year was raise to 50 billion so, they can legally sell up to 50 billion shares.
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Posted from another board

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Their worldwide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I just got like 40 phone calls!!!!!!!

Very nice exposure.....they went on about them for a few minutes!!!!

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right on juice .......... keep spreading the q !!!

qbid the terrible is gonna come to a town near you just wait and see.

long strong and accumulating.

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was I right or was I right? Nice Open at .0015 like I said!

Lets get that RSI to 30 baby!

Just call me butter because I'm on a roll!

I am calling for a big PR today.. I feel like it is going to be today.. Just a feeling. I have been right the last four times so I might be off today.... lol

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b x a now 13 x 14.... Nite pushed it down this time....

13 MM's @ 13 Bid
2 MM's @ 12 Bid <--Nite


1 MM @ 14 Ask <--Nite
5 MM's @ 15 Ask

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quote:
Originally posted by FatherOfTwo:
b x a now 13 x 14.... Nite pushed it down this time....

13 MM's @ 13 Bid
2 MM's @ 12 Bid <--Nite


1 MM @ 14 Ask <--Nite
5 MM's @ 15 Ask

FOT is VERT still on the ask on .0015?
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you are right it stated the fact that it may be diluting. that report did not say it was.

heres another fact the company is denying any dilution and has pointed too the fact that there is manipulation.


heres another Fact we all know that there is high risk in pinks

heres another fact. you have just taken a statement that is stated as speculation, and twisted it yet again to meet your agenda

oh an heres a fact YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY HERE.


if your going to use Facts, make sure they are facts not fiction

Rod


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Originally posted by roadrunnerv8383:
the report stated facts, most investors will come up with the conclusion this is a poor investment, if not thier just in denial. QBID is one of the worst investments at this moment in penny stocks IMO.



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
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Get'em Rod!!! lol these fools! I tell ya man. Just because you pay money for a report that doesn't make it true. They state that it is not a FACT! lol Dilution doesn't uptick.
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why do you leave out facts like a revenue generating studio that cut our costs by 73%

finacial backing till 2008.

and profitable by second quarter of 2006.

why do you not talk about anything positive.

why do you not talk about your last phyciatrist visit?


Rod


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Originally posted by roadrunnerv8383:
remember QBIDs O/S was only 1.2 billion in may of 2002 and as of oct 2004 the O/S was 15.5 billion. and QBIDs costs have risen significantly with thier launch and production costs of $1.5-$2 million a month. with little or no revenue, how do you think they are paying for it all? still no current O/S count, its obvious they are diluting. and also A/S last year was raise to 50 billion so, they can legally sell up to 50 billion shares.



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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this describes almost every pink sheet stock ive ever been in?
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by roadrunnerv8383:

1) "the company is traded on the pink sheet exchange and doesnt have fully reporting financials for public review."

2)"thier second weakness, dilution"

3)"high risk"

what a great report, maybe some of you can figure it out now.


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my question is how much volume is typically needed (assuming if this was a normal and unmanipulated stock) to push the ask up and make this move if for example the L2 is: (im talking about where Nite is)
1 MM @ 14 Ask <--Nite
5 MM's @ 15 Ask

so this is saying Nite is the only MM at .0014 that needs to be filled before the next 5 MM's at .0015 need to be filled. so is NITE asking for a babillion shares or what. we just saw like 20 mill easily at the ask at .0014 and it doesn't move, instead it drops!! lol

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quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
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why do you not talk about anything positive.

why do you not talk about your last phyciatrist visit? .....

Houston, we have a problem. Coffee has now been spewed all over the monitor.
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quote:
Originally posted by juice:
my question is how much volume is typically needed (assuming if this was a normal and unmanipulated stock) to push the ask up and make this move if for example the L2 is: (im talking about where Nite is)
1 MM @ 14 Ask <--Nite
5 MM's @ 15 Ask

so this is saying Nite is the only MM at .0014 that needs to be filled before the next 5 MM's at .0015 need to be filled. so is NITE asking for a babillion shares or what. we just saw like 20 mill easily at the ask at .0014 and it doesn't move, instead it drops!! lol

all depends on the O/S. I have been in stocks back when I day traded that would shoot up 100% or more in a matter of mins with little buying. All in the O/S and also what the MM's want to do with it. Everyone says the MM's are just a cop out and they don't have all of that control. The fact is they do! If they don't want to run they don't run. If they want it to run it will run. plain and simple. I know for a fact this is the truth. MM's control.
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so pennies are u saying only because an O/S is unknown the mm's can hold it down? seems like there could possible be a trillion shares out there, with over a billion in volume those couple days we didnt go anywhere.... that does concern me however, think if these are all naked shorts and illegal shares are being flooded the O/S is not what it may look like it is and the mm's may be playing with us like that. i really hope this audit is just about complete, if not complete already, and everything gets fixed up pretty soon. come september the ball shall be rolling in our court IMO. q has been making huge strides this year, its obvious they want to succeed. now almost everyone i know is in on Q its a little ridickulous! go franko!
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I hate to keep bringing up the O/S count, but I'm curious as to how some of you calculate what you estimate the O/S number to be. The way I understand it, we have the information we need (from the conference call) and subsequent PRs:

"9.5 billion shares in oustanding, with an additional 5-6 billion as a security on financing"

We also know there was at least a 2-3% buyback.

"We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares."

I just don't understand how many on this board are comming up with a number closer to 3 billion. It seems to me the estimation should fall somewhere between 4.33105 and 7.1319 billion shares outstanding. Please help me understand. Thanks.

[ August 24, 2005, 11:05: Message edited by: polo1110 ]

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quote:
Originally posted by juice:
so pennies are u saying only because an O/S is unknown the mm's can hold it down? seems like there could possible be a trillion shares out there, with over a billion in volume those couple days we didnt go anywhere.... that does concern me however, think if these are all naked shorts and illegal shares are being flooded the O/S is not what it may look like it is and the mm's may be playing with us like that. i really hope this audit is just about complete, if not complete already, and everything gets fixed up pretty soon. come september the ball shall be rolling in our court IMO. q has been making huge strides this year, its obvious they want to succeed. now almost everyone i know is in on Q its a little ridickulous! go franko!

That is true. We had two large volume days and we didn't move. With that in mind we alos had two days that on low volume we went from .0017 to .002. And one day we even touched .0021. So honestly the MM's control it all. As for naked shorting. I don't think that is the case or dilution. I think what is the porblem is these small runs that level off. They have to come back down because day traders don't stay in forever. So when they sell off it drops the PPS lower and lower every time. To our current level. With all the news out and the plus going for Q I think the next run will be for real. Which will happen once we see RSI hit 30. As you can see from the chart I put up. Everytime we hit RSI 30 we spike.(one time we went up and down for a few) but for the most part the MM's will run it once we see those levels.
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polo...what happend to the between 9 & 15 bill figure? sounds like you figured something out in the last couple minutes? yeh or ney? can u show ur calculations?
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you know..I thought about it..Yes, dilution.

When demand is up but price down...someone is selling those shares.

Pure economics, if no dilution, then demand brings price up but with more shares flooded into the market..same or down..

It is a shame...another dream down the toilet...

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thanks pennies....yeah ive noticed that too, actually the charts on Q have always been a great indicator of SHORT term trends, which is pretty much all q has done for me in the past. Im looking long now. with a all the interest and speculation surrounding q a long term trend will only happen with the news we are waiting for, and if the chart is there to support at that time, (which is where it is just about now) well bingo jump on, lets see that news! otherwise we will see the same short gains over and over with a further push down each time. anyway, with great reward comes risk, thats why we are all here, (for the reward part mainly hehe). ill wait this out, Q will with out a doubt in my mind be a nice play. JMHO.
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lol, I forgot about the 53% from Frank. Sorry

quote:
Originally posted by juice:
polo...what happend to the between 9 & 15 bill figure? sounds like you figured something out in the last couple minutes? yeh or ney? can u show ur calculations?



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Yeah juice, I just took the low (9.5) and high (15.5), reduced the 9.5 by 3% and the 15.5 by 2% to cover all possible numbers. Then I removed 53% from each number leaving me with 4.33105 on the low side and 7.1319 on the high side. The 53% was a MAJOR oversite when first posting, and now 3 billion doesn't seem so far off. Either way, I jsut wondered if I was missing something, so I asked.

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ThinkMoney,

Nothing personal, but how can you say "i've thought about it" as if you just came up with this theory when it's all you've said? That and the fact that you lost a lot of money on Q, though you also said that you're in it for peanuts.

Your posts stick out to me cuz they never "say" anything...

~BB

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Originally posted by thinkmoney:
It makes sense to me - dilution

get PRs out so folks will buy.

another cmkx?

AUGUST 2ND --> dilution - frank puts out a pr so folks will buy...
the more the merrier.


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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
you know..I thought about it..Yes, dilution.

When demand is up but price down...someone is selling those shares.

Pure economics, if no dilution, then demand brings price up but with more shares flooded into the market..same or down..

It is a shame...another dream down the toilet...


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alright guys i have visitied the bank and my money is being wired in as we speak...and i am not going little this time!!!MM (with daytraders helpin out) are runnin this down like a textbook example...right once we all get scared and see tons and tons of .0013 trades (MM trading shares to themsleves) than, that is when all the last bit of rookies will sell to the MM and the chart will fill in and the daytraders and MM will run it up...maybe not to high, but it will be a chart run, in the range of .0018 to .0023 if no news occurs....

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Everybody sure is edgy today... [Wink]
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