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hmmmmmmm he must have been shut down. i cant connect to that site now. Im getting a cant find that page error.

maybe to much public info,

that could be a good thing.

rod

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Originally posted by mavinsmavin:
http://joebechely.blogspot.com/


6 Days in LA...

So I have been here just under a week now and have already managed to get arrested, addicted to drugs, botox treatment, and an agent.

OK, so just kidding, but for many of you, that is what you would have expected (especially you, mom). What I have done is moved many of my clothes and a few personal belongings into the Extended Stay Americain Burbank, rented a car, found the Q Television Network Studios, and started a new chapter of my life on the opposite end of the country - LA.

My life was wrapped up in Atlanta this weekend by my parents and friends, since I had to leave quickly. The move was bumped back and forth, but finally happened on last Tuesday. My first day at the Q Television Network Media City Studios was Thursday. You heard me, QTN Media City Studios. We aren't renting, we're buying (insert the theme from 'The Jeffersons' here). The building (once used for Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy post-production work) has two stages; one will be used for On Q Live (my show), Brunch (the daily morning show), and our Ques Desk (the gay news), and the other will be rented out during the day, and used for our live dance show (Flesh and Threads) on Saturdays. Just this Friday we had Fear Factor in that stage taping some bug-eating segments. A 4" cockroach escaped and ended up in our Production Office. Yummy. I have attached the requisite cheesy picture in front of the studio.

While the sets are being constructed, we (the On Q Live team) have been meeting with our AMAZING new producer, Andrew, and deciding on the vision and future of the show. With a new home, new sets, and new faces, we are able to really make the show what we want - great. Beginning this week we start booking guests, taping packages out in the field, and seeing the sights (part for fun, part for the show's opening and LA segments).

If you are standing, sit. If you have socks on, hold on to them (because this will knock them off). On Saturday, I was involved in a photo shoot for the New York Times! How crazy is that!?! They are doing a big story on us in a few weeks to highlight the network and our new fall line-up. When I hear more about that, I will let you know so you can pick up your copy! I have attached a picture (taken by a friend) from the shoot below. Hopefully I will get some proofs (head shots can be really expensive).

On a related note, QTN was part of a gay TV network panel at a recent New York gay professionals event. After our representatives stole the show during the panel discussion, there was a 45-minute wait to talk to them - everyone flooded our table and left Logo and Here! wondering what happened! We are definitely THE gay network out there now!

I am getting to know the city already. I have been lost several times, but that is often the best way to learn a new place. I am already looking for a place to live. Some places that I want to investigate are North Hollywood, Toluca Lake, Glendale, and possibly even Burbank. I know, I know - many of those places are in the valley. It is closer to work, and I can avoid unnecessary traffic. I promise I won't turn into a Valley Girl.

Before I go, I know what you have all been waiting for - celebrity sightings. I have none. Sorry. I have seen NBC, ABC, and Disney Animation Studios (all in Burbank). To ensure that I have good, natural responses when we travel around the city next week, I haven't gone out to see much. I did have dinner in West Hollywood before a drive through Beverly Hills and ending at the Santa Monica Pier. It was nice (and just like the movies). I haven't seen the Hollywood sign yet, but it is on the other side of the hills, so I will have to wait.

I have to go make dinner now (Hamburger Helper) and open my new QTN e-mail account. Ahh, the glamorous life of a Hollywood actor - ground beef and e-mail.

posted by Joe Bechely at 10:13 PM | 0 comments



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quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
quote:
Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars:
quote:
Originally posted by g-invest:
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Originally posted by 4Art:
Jonas Invest ... g-invest ... Hmmm ...

I have only one account. I am also not a basher. I am a concerned investor. I would not be in this stock if I didn't think it was a worthwhile investment. A great deal of actions by Frank upset me, but I have faith in the network as a whole.
We do have a lot of bashers on this site, but g-invest is not one of them. This I can say for sure.
Bashers tell you to sell a stock. Actually they try to scare you into selling.

I have checked the last 10 pages and nobody has said to sell the stock. Some of us here are just debating the possibility of the intent of the company and the possibility of the stock pps.

Well, like you said, "bashers try to scare you into selling." While they may not have said "sell your shares," they still are trying to get you to do so.
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Often a basher's main motivation is to lower the PPS by spreading unsubstantiated fear and doubt. If you check the last ten pages again, you'll find several examples. [Cool]

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Originally posted by forfun:
Bashers tell you to sell a stock. Actually they try to scare you into selling.


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Quick. Print this out! [Cool]

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
hmmmmmmm he must have been shut down. i cant connect to that site now. Im getting a cant find that page error.

maybe to much public info,

that could be a good thing.

rod

quote:
Originally posted by mavinsmavin:
http://joebechely.blogspot.com/


6 Days in LA...

So I have been here just under a week now and have already managed to get arrested, addicted to drugs, botox treatment, and an agent.

OK, so just kidding, but for many of you, that is what you would have expected (especially you, mom). What I have done is moved many of my clothes and a few personal belongings into the Extended Stay Americain Burbank, rented a car, found the Q Television Network Studios, and started a new chapter of my life on the opposite end of the country - LA.

My life was wrapped up in Atlanta this weekend by my parents and friends, since I had to leave quickly. The move was bumped back and forth, but finally happened on last Tuesday. My first day at the Q Television Network Media City Studios was Thursday. You heard me, QTN Media City Studios. We aren't renting, we're buying (insert the theme from 'The Jeffersons' here). The building (once used for Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy post-production work) has two stages; one will be used for On Q Live (my show), Brunch (the daily morning show), and our Ques Desk (the gay news), and the other will be rented out during the day, and used for our live dance show (Flesh and Threads) on Saturdays. Just this Friday we had Fear Factor in that stage taping some bug-eating segments. A 4" cockroach escaped and ended up in our Production Office. Yummy. I have attached the requisite cheesy picture in front of the studio.

While the sets are being constructed, we (the On Q Live team) have been meeting with our AMAZING new producer, Andrew, and deciding on the vision and future of the show. With a new home, new sets, and new faces, we are able to really make the show what we want - great. Beginning this week we start booking guests, taping packages out in the field, and seeing the sights (part for fun, part for the show's opening and LA segments).

If you are standing, sit. If you have socks on, hold on to them (because this will knock them off). On Saturday, I was involved in a photo shoot for the New York Times! How crazy is that!?! They are doing a big story on us in a few weeks to highlight the network and our new fall line-up. When I hear more about that, I will let you know so you can pick up your copy! I have attached a picture (taken by a friend) from the shoot below. Hopefully I will get some proofs (head shots can be really expensive).

On a related note, QTN was part of a gay TV network panel at a recent New York gay professionals event. After our representatives stole the show during the panel discussion, there was a 45-minute wait to talk to them - everyone flooded our table and left Logo and Here! wondering what happened! We are definitely THE gay network out there now!

I am getting to know the city already. I have been lost several times, but that is often the best way to learn a new place. I am already looking for a place to live. Some places that I want to investigate are North Hollywood, Toluca Lake, Glendale, and possibly even Burbank. I know, I know - many of those places are in the valley. It is closer to work, and I can avoid unnecessary traffic. I promise I won't turn into a Valley Girl.

Before I go, I know what you have all been waiting for - celebrity sightings. I have none. Sorry. I have seen NBC, ABC, and Disney Animation Studios (all in Burbank). To ensure that I have good, natural responses when we travel around the city next week, I haven't gone out to see much. I did have dinner in West Hollywood before a drive through Beverly Hills and ending at the Santa Monica Pier. It was nice (and just like the movies). I haven't seen the Hollywood sign yet, but it is on the other side of the hills, so I will have to wait.

I have to go make dinner now (Hamburger Helper) and open my new QTN e-mail account. Ahh, the glamorous life of a Hollywood actor - ground beef and e-mail.

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And pumpers promote blue skies without any substantial backup. Go back through 119 pages and you will see many examples.

I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders. Between those here and at the 3 other major bulletin boards and the friends and family that invest, I think there is alot more than 500 shareholders.

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all i gott say is next week we will get an audit..its not inside information but its more of a timeline fact
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quote:
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all i gott say is next week we will get an audit..its not inside information but its more of a timeline fact

Please go on...
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Great news! Frank has even more motivation to get that audit completed! [Big Grin]

Actually, if this is true, then many, if not most, stocks on this board are in violation as well.

quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders.


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Sell... Buy... Hold...
I don't care..
Just be honest about the facts.
The faithfull followers of Frank have no info.
All these supposed e-mails from richard or telephone calls with Frank are worthless... they didn't happen..
I have tried on many occasions to get in touch with frank and it just doesn't happen.
Be honest about dillution.
When I bought this stock last year the rumored A/S was six billion... now the conservative estimate is fifty billion...
That my friends is dillution.
Dillution is a bad thing as it reduces the per share price we all depend on.

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The relentless bashers of Frank have no info either. It's just speculation on both sides. [Cool]

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Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
Sell... Buy... Hold...
I don't care..
Just be honest about the facts.
The faithfull followers of Frank have no info.
All these supposed e-mails from richard or telephone calls with Frank are worthless... they didn't happen..
I have tried on many occasions to get in touch with frank and it just doesn't happen.
Be honest about dillution.
When I bought this stock last year the rumored A/S was six billion... now the conservative estimate is fifty billion...
That my friends is dillution.
Dillution is a bad thing as it reduces the per share price we all depend on.


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quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
And pumpers promote blue skies without any substantial backup. Go back through 119 pages and you will see many examples.

I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders. Between those here and at the 3 other major bulletin boards and the friends and family that invest, I think there is alot more than 500 shareholders.

119 pages on this tread... don't forget the hundred and fifty other QBID threads... all of which are over a hundred pages.

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... and there are pretty much an even number of pumpers and bashers on all of 'em. [Big Grin]
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Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
119 pages on this tread... don't forget the hundred and fifty other QBID threads... all of which are over a hundred pages.


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My last post tonight:
looks like QTN is producing a new show
http://www.senwotnellafilms.com/

...and here is the home: www.thecloset.tv

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here is a prime example of a basher. takes an actual statement from the SEC and changes one small word and then states that Frank is in violation.

here is what it stated

A company must file reports with the SEC if:

it has 500 or more investors and(not or) $10 million or more in assets; or

it lists its securities on the following stock markets


god you guys must think we are stupid to try a statement like that..

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
And pumpers promote blue skies without any substantial backup. Go back through 119 pages and you will see many examples.

I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders. Between those here and at the 3 other major bulletin boards and the friends and family that invest, I think there is alot more than 500 shareholders.



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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Damn, Rod. You beat me to it.
quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
here is a prime example of a basher. takes an actual statement from the SEC and changes one small word and then states that Frank is in violation.

here is what it stated

A company must file reports with the SEC if:

it has 500 or more investors and(not or) $10 million or more in assets; or

it lists its securities on the following stock markets


god you guys must think we are stupid to try a statement like that..

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
And pumpers promote blue skies without any substantial backup. Go back through 119 pages and you will see many examples.

I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders. Between those here and at the 3 other major bulletin boards and the friends and family that invest, I think there is alot more than 500 shareholders.



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you have stated that that everything you have stated has been proven as fact.

this is another example of your verbal diareaha problem.

this is at the most the 30th qbid thread and this is maybe one of the longest one. many of them where cut at 30 pages.

no wonder your messages stink so badly you mouth appears to be full of shiit


Rod


quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
And pumpers promote blue skies without any substantial backup. Go back through 119 pages and you will see many examples.

I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders. Between those here and at the 3 other major bulletin boards and the friends and family that invest, I think there is alot more than 500 shareholders.

119 pages on this tread... don't forget the hundred and fifty other QBID threads... all of which are over a hundred pages.


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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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quote:
Originally posted by 4Art:
Great news! Frank has even more motivation to get that audit completed! [Big Grin]

Actually, if this is true, then many, if not most, stocks on this board are in violation as well.

quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders.


It actually is TRUE. Go look for yourself. It is a GOVERNMENT webpage for the SEC.

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/microcapstock.htm

And yes, if "Q" has more than 500 holders and more $10 Million in assets, he has great motivation to get it done.

All it takes is one formal complaint to start and inquiry on any of these micro-cap stocks. The volume would suggest that alot of people (more than 500) are holders of this company.

Right in that link, it describes the actions one should take to file a complaint for any stock in which you feel is in violation of SEC rules.

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YET AGAIN ANOTHER BASHING TECHNIQUE.

give it up guys your not going to put one over us here.


A company must file reports with the SEC if:

it has 500 or more investors and(not or ) $10 million or more in assets; or

it lists its securities on the following stock markets


quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Art:
Great news! Frank has even more motivation to get that audit completed! [Big Grin]

Actually, if this is true, then many, if not most, stocks on this board are in violation as well.

quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders.


It actually is TRUE. Go look for yourself. It is a GOVERNMENT webpage for the SEC.

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/microcapstock.htm

And yes, if "Q" has more than 500 holders or $10 Million in assets, he has great motivation to get it done.

All it takes is one formal complaint to start and inquiry on any of these micro-cap stocks. The volume would suggest that alot of people (more than 500) are holders of this company.

Right in that link, it describes the actions one should take to file a complaint for any stock in which you feel is in violation of SEC rules.



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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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once again...thanks rod

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buying another 200,000 in the morning
to total 2,500,000

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they only thing that will make them report is if their assets become more then 10 million dollars.

they dont have more then 10 million to my knowledge so there is not a legitimate complaint to the SEC that puts Frank in violation.

You guys have to do better then this to scare the shares from Allstocks.

Rod

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Q TV has updated their site...

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SFTV.004-.0075
AVNT.0018-.0033
FPPL.0034-.03
WEGI. My new Call

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quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
here is a prime example of a basher. takes an actual statement from the SEC and changes one small word and then states that Frank is in violation.

here is what it stated

A company must file reports with the SEC if:

it has 500 or more investors and(not or) $10 million or more in assets; or

it lists its securities on the following stock markets


god you guys must think we are stupid to try a statement like that..

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
And pumpers promote blue skies without any substantial backup. Go back through 119 pages and you will see many examples.

I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders. Between those here and at the 3 other major bulletin boards and the friends and family that invest, I think there is alot more than 500 shareholders.


Read the previous post where I copied the SEC web page EXACTLY.

You can insult my all you want, but you really have no basis.

My statement WAS I fear Frank is in violation of SEC requirements. Based upon the press releases HIS NAME is on about the library, studio, and revenues. It would be safe to assume that assets are over 10 Million dollars. If not, take you 50 billion shares and divide that by 9.9 Million and you will see the exact value of "Q".

I am sure you will find something wrong with my simple math, but that is o.k. I can take it.

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Haha! Guess you told them!!!

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
YET AGAIN ANOTHER BASHING TECHNIQUE.

give it up guys your not going to put one over us here.


A company must file reports with the SEC if:

it has 500 or more investors and(not or ) $10 million or more in assets; or

it lists its securities on the following stock markets


quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Art:
Great news! Frank has even more motivation to get that audit completed! [Big Grin]

Actually, if this is true, then many, if not most, stocks on this board are in violation as well.

quote:
Originally posted by forfun:
I really fear that Frank is in violation of SEC regulations. A company MUST report if it has 500 or more shareholders.


It actually is TRUE. Go look for yourself. It is a GOVERNMENT webpage for the SEC.

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/microcapstock.htm

And yes, if "Q" has more than 500 holders or $10 Million in assets, he has great motivation to get it done.

All it takes is one formal complaint to start and inquiry on any of these micro-cap stocks. The volume would suggest that alot of people (more than 500) are holders of this company.

Right in that link, it describes the actions one should take to file a complaint for any stock in which you feel is in violation of SEC rules.



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Thanks for making me look harder at SEC rules. I was totally wrong. It is required to report to the SEC (which becomes public) if you have more than 300 shareholders of a particular class of stock:

Reporting obligations because of Securities Act registration
Once the staff declares your company's Securities Act registration statement effective, the Exchange Act requires you to file reports with the SEC. The obligation to file reports continues at least through the end of the fiscal year in which your registration statement becomes effective. After that, you are required to continue reporting unless you satisfy the following "thresholds," in which case your filing obligations are suspended:


your company has fewer than 300 shareholders of the class of securities offered; or
your company has fewer than 500 shareholders of the class of securities offered and less than $10 million in total assets for each of its last three fiscal years.
If your company is subject to the reporting requirements, it must file information with the SEC about:


its operations;
its officers, directors, and certain shareholders, including salary, various fringe benefits, and transactions between the company and management;
the financial condition of the business, including financial statements audited by an independent certified public accountant; and
its competitive position and material terms of contracts or lease agreements.
All of this information becomes publicly available when you file your reports with the SEC. As is true with Securities Act filings, small business issuers may choose to use small business alternative forms and Regulation S-B for registration and reporting under the Exchange Act.

http://www.sec.gov/info/smallbus/qasbsec.htm#eod5

This is the same rule that got UC and CMKX.

No public reports + no sec filings. I can't seem to find the filings for the year for which the stock went public.

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I haven't read the threads lately but can someone tell me their guess at what price Q television would be worth right now ie:What would a Viacom pay for them?
Input Please
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You know its almost gotten so bad on this board this week that I wish the pps wopuld go up just some some of these people would STFU and go bash, repost, mislead, whine, etc on some other thread they want to daytrade on.

I have almost gotten to the point that I dont even care what money I make (or lose) as long as I we come back to the intelligent, friendly conversations I have come to respect and expect on this board.

I am not an advocate of censorship in anyway so dont pull that crap in responding, but if this was my board there are a half a dozen IPs and their subsets I would ban just to make this back to a more conversational discussion arena than the confrontational bs it has become of late.

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Learn About the Markets

SEC Documents You Should Know
The Securities and Exchange Commission was created in the '30s, after the 1929 crash to help protect investors. One of the requirements that the SEC instituted to help keep investors informed are the filing requirements. Here's a list of the basic SEC filing requirements and forms.

Filing Requirements
All public companies are required to file financial documents with the SEC, unless they meet certain exemptions.

Public companies can be exempted from filing the standard SEC forms if they have less than 500 stockholders and less than $10 million in total assets. Exceeding either of these criteria requires them to file.

However, non-filing companies are required to provide shareholders with financial information on request. If you own stock in a non-filing company, you can call them and ask for financial data.

All other companies must file regular reports of all kinds with the SEC. Since 1996, these filings must be made in an SGML coded format in order to be easily stored in the EDGAR database operated by the SEC. There are numerous sources on the Internet for accessing these electronic filings.

Registration Forms
S-1 and S-2 forms are the initial filings by a private company that intends to become public. The filing of this form is the first step in an IPO. The forms require disclosure of the current owners of the stock, the past revenue and earnings history, a description of the business plan, all known risks associated with the stock (many of these are boilerplate), and the company's intentions for the capital raised.

S-1's are typically filed first with blanks for such things as the number of shares to be sold and the price. An S-1/A is filed when these "blanks" are known.

A 424A or 424B filing is an amendment to the original S-1 or S-2 filings but which contains a substantial change other than filing in the blanks of the original S-1.

An S-4 filing is used for new securities issued when two existing public companies merge or combine businesses.

Financial Reporting Forms
10-K The annual financial filing form required of all companies. The 10-K is the single most complete description of a company, with a complete description of all risks and history of the business. The 10-K must be filed within 90 days after the closing of the company's fiscal year.

10-Q The 10-Q is the quarterly filing of financial reports. It often does not have the three-year history of financials as the 10-K does, though some companies include this. The 10-Q must be filed within 45 days of the closing of the quarter. There is no 10-Q for the fourth fiscal quarter, as the 10-K fulfills this function.

Amendments to previously filed 10-Ks and 10-Qs are identified with a "/A" as in 10-K/A.

Material Events
Whenever a "material" event occurs, the company must file a Form 8-K describing the event and its possible effect on the company's business. By the very nature, 8-K reports have no schedule. A material event includes such things as bankruptcy, a lawsuit, a merger, resignation of a key officer or director, patent denial, or other significant event.

Insider Transactions
"Insider" is a general term for officers and directors of a company. However, most "insider" rules also apply to shareholders who have more than 10% of the company's stock.

Restricted stock, in general, is stock that has been purchased in any way other than a public offering. There may or may not be actual restrictions imposed by the company or underwriters on how the owner can dispose of the stock (often there are). However, for SEC purposes, restricted stock means stock sold directly by the company to an investor in a privately arranged sale. Exercise of stock options generally does not fall into this category.

Form 144 filings report the proposed sale of any restricted stock. While this includes company insiders, it also includes anyone who owns restricted stock, as defined above, regardless of how many shares.

It is important to note that many "insider" trading reporting agencies list filings of Form 144 by directors and officers, but do not include Form 144 filings by unaffiliated shareholders.

It is also important to note that the filing of a Form 144 does not obligate the filer to sell any or all of the shares listed. The filer has 90 days in which to make the transaction, or portion of it. If the 90 days passes without a transaction, a new Form 144 may be filed.

Form 3 filings state the ownership totals for a new officer, director, or 10% owner.

Form 4 filings state the changes to an insider's holdings when they occur. The Form 4 includes purchases and sales as well as exercise of options, disposition by gift, or other transactions.

Form 5 filings are an annual summation of the Form 4 changes to give a annual summation of the ownership by officers, directors, and 10% owners.

Large Position Shareholders
Forms 13D and 13G are used to report positions by large shareholders, defined as any shareholder who owns more than 5% of the outstanding shares.

Form 13D is a required filing by any entity which becomes a 5% holder. This filing must be made at the time (within 10 days) the holder crosses the 5% threshold.

Form 13G is the same form, but used when the person or entity is making the purchase for "investment" only.) Additional purchases by this holder do not have to be reported on Forms 3, 4, or 5, until the holder crosses the 10% threshold.

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Must read from Raging bull message board:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=QBID&read=995845

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Not to put thistles in your grass but I got my 200k filled @.0013 3:58pm [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
I also had a buy in all day for .0013 with no fills for just over 300,000 shares.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by imakmony2005:
For what its worth i had a buy in all day at .0013 and did not get filled for 1 mil all are none,so there not just dumping this stock.




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ROTFLMAO!!!!! How long did you say you have been trading 45$ at a time? As Daffy Duck once said "what a maroon"

Now you said "Just be honest about the facts." and "That my friends is dilution." ROFLMAO! You contradicted yourself. Did you just get off the Special Ed bus or something?

Where is your proof of dilution? Where are your facts? Now just honest and tell the truth!


quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
Sell... Buy... Hold...
I don't care..
Just be honest about the facts.
The faithfull followers of Frank have no info.
All these supposed e-mails from richard or telephone calls with Frank are worthless... they didn't happen..
I have tried on many occasions to get in touch with frank and it just doesn't happen.
Be honest about dillution.
When I bought this stock last year the rumored A/S was six billion... now the conservative estimate is fifty billion...
That my friends is dillution.
Dillution is a bad thing as it reduces the per share price we all depend on.



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BTW, I will be calling the company and requesting the financial information. I will report to the board their response.

Also, I will not take no for an answer and will follow through with all legal resources to have this information supplied to me.

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Its getting fun now boys and girls, still trying in the morning for a fill .0013.and good for you buckwheat we will all come out ahead.
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go get them forfun, then just let me know so i can dump all these worthless shares. thanks
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