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The only part I did not like was the end..Frankie should be trying to gain investor confidence to grow his company..otherwise sounded good.
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Hey mr conductor, whays your point. that list is in alphabetical order. Not by your rating of what stock is hot or not.
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Originally posted by Maestro232:
My very first real DD.

Check out who's on top:

http://www.newsfollowup.com/tdoc5.htm


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THATS YOUR ANSWER. YOU BOUGHT THIS STOCK ON A GAMBLE, NOW YOU HAVE TO LET IT RIDE. TAKE YOUR CHANCES> PULL OUT IF YOU NEED TO. WHO SAID EVERYTHING UIS GOING TO GO THE WAY YOU DICTATE THAT IT SHOULD. ARE YOU SOME EXPERT ON STARTING TV COMPANIES?
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Originally posted by jackpot:
Hmmmm - my intentions with the stock.....
Well.....if I sell now, I could take a tax write off. But what the hell , it's only gambling money so I'll let it ride.


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quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
THATS YOUR ANSWER. YOU BOUGHT THIS STOCK ON A GAMBLE, NOW YOU HAVE TO LET IT RIDE. TAKE YOUR CHANCES. PULL OUT IF YOU NEED TO. WHO SAID EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GO THE WAY YOU DICTATE THAT IT SHOULD. ARE YOU SOME EXPERT ON STARTING TV COMPANIES?
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Originally posted by jackpot:
Hmmmm - my intentions with the stock.....
Well.....if I sell now, I could take a tax write off. But what the hell , it's only gambling money so I'll let it ride.



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Calm before the storm!
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Earth_Shaker! Excellent work on the DD. Thanks!


quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
The Ultimate QBID DD Post! here it is......

NICE READING: NOT MINE but STILL GOOD [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]

Q Television logo on Fifth Avenue in NYC. Its on a banner for the NYC Gay Pride Event this month which Q is a major sponsor...[/b]

Posted by: DoubleK
In reply to: None Date:6/5/2005 7:35:05 PM
Post #of 120470

Okay, along Fifth Avenue on each street corner there's
a banner announcing the Gay Pride parade on June 26th;
underneath the heading there's a sponser on each banner:
Washington Mutual, Delta, American Air Lines,YMCA...
QTelevision is featured on the banner that hangs on
the corner of 25rd (corrected) and Fifth Avenue.


Posted by: DoubleK
In reply to: None Date:6/5/2005 7:57:10 PM
Post #of 120470

Here's the link to the photos:
http://img98.echo.cx/img98/7889/img03984nq.jpg

[chart]img98.echo.cx/img98/7889/img03984nq.jpg[/chart]

Q TELEVISION TOP-LEVEL SPONSOR FOR PRIDE ~ network supports Atlanta with flying colors
ATLANTA, (June 3, 2005)


Posted by: skunksyard
In reply to: None Date:6/5/2005 1:23:35 PM
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Q TELEVISION TOP-LEVEL SPONSOR FOR PRIDE ~ network supports Atlanta with flying colors
ATLANTA, (June 3, 2005) -- The Atlanta Pride Committee (APC) has announced Q Television Network as the top level "Rainbow" sponsor for the 2005 Atlanta Pride Festival, June 24-26. Rainbow level sponsors are those who contribute $50,000 and above.

"They will begin their broadcast in the Atlanta market sometime in June," says Donna Narducci, APC executive director. "So being at Atlanta Pride made good business sense, in addition to the fact that it's the largest Pride event in the South East."

Atlanta is one of only five cities selected by the Q Television Network to receive sponsorship dollars. Those other five cities include Boston, New York City, Chicago, Houston and San Francisco.

Boston, New York City and San Francisco are the only cities receiving Q Television at this time, although negotiations to carry the network are underway in Atlanta. Once approved, subscriptions will allow customers to receive the channel via either satellite or cable.

Q Television will make its first visit to Atlanta on June 7-10 to film its show "On Q Live" from 7:30 p.m. to 10 p.m. at Joe's on Juniper. The 2 ½-hour live talk show airs every day and covers various topics of interest to the LBGT community.


Atlanta Pride Festival attendees can visit the Q Television booth in the market at Piedmont Park and will also be able to see its float in the parade as well as commercials on the video screen of the Coca Cola stage. The second entertainment stage at the festival has been named the Q Television stage and the network will have exclusive broadcasting rights for the festival.

"How amazing that for our 35th Anniversary Pride celebration we have Q Television Network as the top level sponsor of our event," says Narducci. "Thirty-five years ago, the police were raiding gay bars and arresting people for associating with each other as homosexuals, now we have our own television station dedicated to the LGBT community. Wow! That's progress!"

Atlanta Pride Committee
The Atlanta Pride Committee produces the annual festival and parade at Piedmont Park, attracting as many as 300, 000 participants from the greater Atlanta area and neighboring states. Held this year on June 24-26, the celebration commemorates the Stonewall riots in New York City that launched the modern GLBT rights movement. The Atlanta Pride festival it is the largest of its kind in the Southeast and one of the largest in the country. More information can be found at .

2005 Sponsors
This year's sponsors include: Coca Cola, Delta Air Lines, BellSouth, Labrys Atlanta Magazine, Instinct Magazine, Southern Voice / David Magazine, Hewlett Packard, Atlanta Gay Pages, Sheraton Midtown Atlanta Hotel, Einstein's Restaurant, Esurance, and Smirnoff Twist, Bud Light, Q Television Network.


Q website update, On Q Live Pride info added.....

1)On Q Live logo/link added on Q homepage.....

http://www.qtelevision.com/main/
[chart]www.qtelevision.com/images/qfestivals1.jpg[/chart]

that link takes you to this info.............

2)By: an0brainer
03 Jun 2005, 02:19 PM EDT
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Just a FYI,,, http://www.qtelevision.com/main/onqlive/festivals.asp

ON Q LIVE!

On Q Live -- LIVE!
Watch for the QTN floats and camera crews! QTN will be bringing you live 24 hour coverage from the following parades and festivals:

Atlanta (June 7th - June 10th, 2005)
Please come and be a part of our live studio audience every night from 7:30 PM to 10:00 PM at:

Joes on Joes
Juniper 1049 Juniper St. NE
Atlanta, GA 30309
(404) 875-6634

Boston (June 10th and 11th, 2005)
We'll be broadcasting LIVE from the Boston Gay Pride Parade route! Stop by and see us there!

San Francisco (June 20th - June 26th, 2005)
Come join us in San Fransisco! We'll be in the Castro from the 20th through the 26th and will be broadcasting LIVE in the evenings beginning on the 20th and running through the 24th!

More to come! Please check again for future locations!

06/02/05- New Q commericals on TNT, Lifetime Channel and MTV for those of you have RCN cable.....which means you will only see the commercials if you have RCN Cable in your area and you subscribe to it..........
http://www.rcn.com/

RCN Cable has roughly 400,000 cable subscribers throughout the following areas...click on the link below for specific details on which areas of these cities carry RCN Cable....
Chicago / California / Maryland / Massachusetts / New York / Pennsylvania / Virginia / Washington, DC
http://www.rcn.com/cabletv/lineupMain.php

The following posts are from some of the good people on the boards who have seen the new Q commercials and have shared that info with us......
Posted by: zeus1
In reply to: None Date:6/2/2005 10:36:09 AM
Post #of 14366

Commercial for QTN. I am watching ER on TNT, and they just showed about a 30 second commercial for QTN. It looked great. It showed Chrisanne, Jack E Jett, what is his first name Cummings. Said to subscribe now on RCN

Posted by: zeus1
In reply to: firefight4 who wrote msg# 14362 Date:6/3/2005 7:48:04 AM
Post #of 14375

fire, I also saw it on the Lifetime network last night. So it leads me to believe that whatever channels RCN promotes their shows Q will be shown. That is most of the channels. It will probably air for at least a month if not more.

Posted by: skunksyard
In reply to: None Date:6/3/2005 12:13:39 AM
Post #of 119744

QTN commercial just on TNT

Posted by: skunksyard
In reply to: None Date:6/3/2005 12:54:07 AM
Post #of 119744

QTN Commercial just on MTV..different one from the TNT one. I'll have to pay more attention to it next time.


Posted by: skunksyard
In reply to: zandant who wrote msg# 119736 Date:6/3/2005 1:54:00 AM
Post #of 119745

another QTN commercial on MTV.....

[b]NEW! 06/01/05 Q sponsoring Outfest 2005! July 7th-18th! Premeire Sponsor! more great newssssssssssssss! thanks to a poster named Reindl for finding this.....


[chart]www.outfest.org/images/KeyArt-Web-NEW.gif[/chart]

http://www.outfest.org/fest2005/2005sponsors.html


05/31/05 NEW Q WEBSITE LINK! KIIS FM presents the Q on the Move Summer Splash Tour '05 Kickoff Party with Nick Oram!

http://www.qtelevision.com/main/

[chart]www.qtelevision.com/images/qotm_ad6_small.jpg[/chart]


[b]05/28/05- Q is now on the Eurogames 2005 website in two places. Scroll down on the homepage and you will see Q. Q is also listed as a sponsor on the Eurogames website. thanks to a poster on RB named IntheCurl....


homepage link....
http://2005.eurogames.info/index.html

sponsor link.....
http://2005.eurogames.info/index.html

EuroGames Utrecht and Q Television Network have finalized an agreement for the exclusive US and Canadian broadcasting rights of the EuroGames Utrecht 2005.

Q Television will have access to all sports events, a host family of one of the Participants and will chronicle the activities of that athlete.
Subscribers of Q Television will get to view the EuroGames Utrecht 2005 and witness the triumphs and struggles the athletes endure while participating.
www.qtelevision.com

Q at "One Mighty Weekend!" June 3rd-June 5th at the Walt Disney World Resort in Florida......

heres the website link...
http://www.onemightyweekend.com/events.html

[chart]www.onemightyweekend.com/images/2005Reunion_6b.jpg[/chart]


[b]Q in the Gay Day Orlando 2005 Guide. I spotted Q in 5 places in this guide. Not sure if I got'em all....

http://www.gayday.com/schedule/2005/guide2005.pdf


1) on page 26 and 27 of the Gay Day Orlando 2005 Guide you will see the "Travel Expo Floorplan" in which Q Television is listed in one of the large booths numbered B26 at the following event...
13th Gay & Lesbian Travel Expo/ World Welcome Center
June 3-4TH,2005
Wyndham Palace Resort and Spa
Lake Beuna Vista, Florida

2) On page 54 of the guide you will see Q Television as a New York Sponsor for the "Gay Life Expo" in Los Angeles September 24-25th, 2005 at the Hollywood Palladium and New York, November 19-20,2005 at the Jacob Javits Center.

3) On page 59, Q on the Move and Nick Oram will be at an event at Gay Day Orlando 2005 called Splash! A Gay Day Reunion.

4) Page 68 of the guide has this Full Page Q Television ad....
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6513638

5) Page 96, Q LOGO, a Thank You Page for all Gay Day Olando 2005 Sponsors.


LINK TO CBS MARKETWATCH QBID INTERVIEW! Recent interview with Frank Olsen, CEO of QBID......

Q Television Network CEO Says Logo Debut Isn't A Threat
05/09/05
Q Television Network Chief Executive and President Frank Olsen says the June debut of Viacom's gay-themed Logo cable network will enhance his company's audience reach by opening doors to satellite and cable system operators.
http://guide.real.com/media/news?contentid=7294859&pageid=myreal.newsMAP&pageregion=A2&r....

[b]Posted by: zandant
In reply to: None Date:5/11/2005 4:39:31 AM
Post #of 13829

Q ON OXYGEN!!!!1:30 SF West Coast time and the Q infomercial is on Oxygen.

Posted by: zandant
In reply to: None Date:5/11/2005 5:15:22 AM
Post #of 13830

An excellent compilation of what is on the Q Television Network. The infomercial ran from 1:3- to 2:00 west coast time on Oxygen and urged viewers to call 1-877-ITS-4QTV. It was great to finally see Jack E. Jett (this guy has star quality and the Q should focus a lot on the Jett), Nick Oram (I'm not gay but this guy is one good looking, buff guy), Scott Withers, Crisanne, Cassean, Toria Tolley and the rest of the Q group on the screen. The infomercial is composed of snippets from the Q shows, focusing on On Q Live (Jack E. Jett), Q on the Move (Nick Oram), Infoqus (Scott Withers), Women on Women (Torie Tolley and some women with spiked platinum hair, both who seem excellent, and a sampling of the movies, broadway musicals, concerts, and some of the series (Concrete Jungle, the Agenda)shown on the Q. It also focused on some of the hosts, including all of the personalities from On Q Live (Jett, Withers, Crisanne, Cassean, Jackie...), Nick Oram, Torie and the other hostesses of WOW, Honey, Cary Harrison, and two women who I was not familiar with, a Chelsie and an African-American women who skunks has mentioned but whose name I missed. It also showed many of the places the Q goes to -Sundance, Palm Springs, Washington, etc. and showed quick clips of celebrities including Jenny McCarthy, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Ted Danson (holding a Q microphone), Donny Walberg, and Boy George. The infomercial ended with Nick telling viewers that "This Revolution Will Be Televised!"

Overall, a great job by the Q - and another "proomise" fulfilled. Hopefully, more than one person saw it, but apparently it will be repeated in the infomercial fashion. LOL



[b]QBID Investor Information from the QBID website. heres the link.....
http://www.qtelevision.com/main/investorinfo.asp

5/10/2005 - RE: Marketwatch Interview


Please watch Frank Olsen in an exclusive interview on CBS Marketwatch.

www.marketwatch.com

Posted by: Garvis
In reply to: None Date:5/9/2005 6:42:44 PM
Post #of 111842

Q will be HUGE.... Wake up all...

Interview with Frank at MarketWatch :

15 000 suscribers and growing daily...
1.5 millions request in a month...
Worldwide soon...AUTRALIA in JULY...
Work with TIME WARNER and others...
He say many carriers soon...
Morning show soon : Gay Day...
Gay court ready...
Reality show...
Fund until 2008 for break even...

WOW !!!
Q will be HUGE soon
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/default.asp?siteID=mktw


5/10/2005 - From Frank


Dear Shareholders,

I would like to address all of the owners of QBID. First, things are going very well and although there are many items I cannot discuss because of confidentiality agreements, we are confident that we will make each and every one of you proud to be a shareholder. We are well beyond our estimated target with both discussions that our team is having with carriers and our internal restructure to have QTelevision fully reporting. Our network is a first of its kind and it's very important to have all its components in place to achieve complete success. The approach we've taken in being a 24X7 network will represent the GLBT community best. Our business plan has begun!!!!!



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quote:
Originally posted by jackpot:
What happened to "all we have to do is launch"?
We've been launched and no take off (LOL)

"All we ever had to do is launch!"

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On a personal note,,,

Cory, Rod! Thanks for keeping me in the loop!

I genuinely appreciate it.

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By: dalo_jones1
09 Jun 2005, 12:16 AM EDT
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Photo's from Joe's on Junipers!!! Courtesy of Oldone...

http://dalojones.gfoto.com

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

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quote:
Originally posted by jackpot:
Now I'm causing mayhem?
Give me a break....
I'm calling it as I (note the word "I") see it.
Now if I were to say nothing but positive, would I be a pumper. How can people be so close minded?

In actual fact, there is a large difference between pumping ,bashing and just having a decent conversation. The people on this board who wish to have a discussion would like to do so without you arrogance and ignorance. Saying positive things does not make you a pumper as for the people on this board supply links to back up what they are saying or say up from where they got it from. Continual negative comments identifies you that you are disgruntled. However, you supply nothing to back up your statements nor do you attempt to have a decent conversation. You seem to play both sides of the fence. As for personal attack on Rod, that just makes you obnoxious and ignorant

Basher – Pumper, one second this stock and pinks have been good to you and the next they have not. You seem to fall into areas that describe you well in the following:

Is the "Bashing" of a stock an essential part of the online investment landscape?

Our Constitution guarantees us free speech and we have always valued the lessons gleaned from dissent. When does dissent cross over that imaginary line and become "Bashing"? To often we find well grounded dissent capriciously labeled as "Bashing" by over zealous investors bent on protecting a stocks reputation at any cost. The "Bashing" that is addressed on this site is quite different from dissent. The Anatomy of a Basher strives to look at the calculated erosion of confidence in a given stock. Erosion by means that are, in every sense, void of truth, hinged on deception and innuendo, and motivated by greed at the expense of others. This compendium is offered to aid in identifying the telltale signs of "Bashing", and hopefully provide a counter balance to this heretofore unchecked manipulation of investors fears for personal gain.

IS IT EASIER TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO BUYING A STOCK? I have asked some knowledgeable investors this question and the answer is always: "YES, OF COURSE YES!"


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WHO BASHERS PREY UPON

Consider the elderly that are in*****ng for retirement, they find their way to the message boards for validation only to see false posts about "SEC Violations" and "Class action suits"... or the head of a "typical growing family", with children to put through college, who is monitoring a message board only to read posts by a "pack of 15 to 20 Bashers" (probably 5 or 6 under various alias's) posting continuous disinformation... what do you think these new investors will do? It's safer to not buy or even sell the stock, put the money back in the bank than to deal with all this whirl wind of "unsupported" negative chaff.

The Internet has lured a whole new class of investor into the market. A new investor is just that - New! This new investor, while learning the basics, is particularly vulnerable to the tactics of professional Bashers. New investors tend to lurk in the background of message boards, content to form independent opinions based on what they read with their own eyes. Very often, honest, intelligent and cautious people can easily be overcome by a well orchestrated propaganda effort.

You must always remember that their is a lot of money to be made in just the motion of a stock UP or DOWN it doesn't matter! And Bashers have money at risk just as you do. But they have the edge of fear, lies, and falsehoods to post while preying on the un-initiated. The average investor dose not have the edge of organized deception.

Recent revelations have indicated that even Market Makers (those charged with keeping the playing field level) have been involved in stock manipulation by Bashing on a stock message board. HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS IS A REAL THREAT!


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Lesson 1: Remember, BASHERS NEVER Bash A BAD STOCK. Check the boards for stocks with no potential. They never have any Bashers. Bashers only go after stocks that are moving up or have excellent potential to do so. Bashers work to bring the price down to either increase their position at the expense of others or help a Short make their bones.

Lesson 2: BASHERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES. New startup companies always have a few bits of bad news. The Basher will post this over and over again. Unsophisticated Bashers will try to freshen up old news with a new date or by-line in an attempt to fool you.

Lesson 3: BASHERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY. They try to wear you out. They comment on everything, every other post, and can answer every question. THEY KNOW IT ALL! There is no positive comment they won't Bash. They try to control the board. True longs may have to confront the Bashers or they will appear to the newbies as being the people with all the information. This is best accomplished by posting positive, well researched data on the company, repetitively, while trying hard not to engage the Bashers in direct repartee. REMEMBER - LONGS... RESIST USING THE BASHERS ALIAS!

Lesson 4: BASHERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Never trust a Basher. The truth on startup companies is that they make mistakes. What new company hasn't? The Basher will compare your issue to a another companies, financials - deals - management, etc., trying to lure you into making an Apples to Oranges comparison. Remember each company is unique and while it is prudent to seek out established indicators, do so with care and don't take someone else's word for it. Strive to come up with at least a "six-pack" of indicators so your vision of the state of a company is not tied to a single barometer. Not doing so is tantamount to going to a Race Track and betting on the "Pretty Brown Horsey". BASHERS WANT TO WHISPER IN YOUR EAR - PLANT A SEED OF DOUBT, AND HOPE THAT YOU ARE NOT SAVVY ENOUGH TO RESEARCH THE TRUTH ON YOUR OWN. This is how they achieve their greatest success.

DOUBT + FEAR + LAZINESS = BAIL OUT!

This is your investment... work for it, protect it and don't panic on the words of very shadowy figure that "has your best interest in their heart". Consider that one factor: Someone you have never met, is not a member of your family, is now, out of the goodness of their hearts - GIVING YOU FREE ADVICE (that you didn't ask for). It's a no brainer. They have motives $$$$$$$$$$$$.

Lesson 5: Bashers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS. That's why they make the vague statements they do. They rely on you being to lazy to research their droppings other than to scan the board for others opinions. This is particularly dangerous when you consider that Bashers work in packs and often validate and back up each others nonsense with what appears to be "innocuous and unsolicited" verification by comrade Bashers. Let's face it, we are all conditioned to "believe" everything we see in writing. If others by virtue of their "posts" also confirm this belief, then we are subconsciously doomed to swallow the hook, line and sinker... Basher - 1 Honest Investor - 0

Lesson 6: The Bashers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. They can lie about information and you won't know the difference (unless you have done your own DD on the company and know the truth and facts).


Lesson 7: Bashers play on your lack of patience. You have held a stock for a while. You knew it will be a big stock someday, but the BASHER CAN GET TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR GAIN. That's when the Basher is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the goal for the stock was to hold it for one year. The Basher is bothersome, so you dump it on a bad day. Some others also dump. Then you get mad for your loss and return to let everyone know how mad you are. Then you turn into a semi-Basher as well. THE BASHER HAS WON, AND GAINED A NEW ALLY - YOU!

Lesson 8: BRING THE PRICE DOWN. That is the Basher's job. The truth is not important. Lies are the norm. Post continuously on the board every day. They are trying to scare the newbies that are just in*****gating a stock. They are trying to wear down the faithful longs on the board and gain free reign and control.

A BASHER HANDBOOK:
Do not underestimate a Bashers influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their "hand-book". Learn from it or you will be donating your hard earned money to them!


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Rules for Successful Bashing:


1. Be anonymous


2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.


3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a
support base before initiating your Bashing routine.


4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.

5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.


6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.


7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock. Build softly.


8. Identify your foes (Longs) and the boards "guru" Use them to
your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.

9. Only Bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the
rest of the way.


10. Give the appearance of being open minded.


11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.


12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.


13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.


14. Don't worry about being labeled a "Basher". Newbies won't
know your history.


15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.


16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run. Not to tank the
company or create a plunge in the stock; be subtle and consistent.


17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company or the stock.


18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to
reinforce facts.


19. DO NOT LIE, NAME CALL or USE PROFANITY.


20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that is inaccurate in how they report their findings.


21. Discourage people from believing Press Releases.
Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.


22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.


23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or the PR, temporary
mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.


24. If other posters share your concerns, play on that and share theirs too.


25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.


26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs.


27. Bait the Longs into personal debates putting their
focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts.


28. Promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to
instead of the one your Bashing.


30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules.


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Grade 'A' Basher:
If you post lots of old news, respond to all positive posts with a negative side. Never respond to being called a Basher, never post on another board with same alias. Can spend up to 80 hours a week Bashing a stock.

Grade 'B' Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about 60 hours a week.


Grade 'C' Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when Bashers rules say not to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.


Grade 'D' Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negative statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a week.


Grade 'F' Basher:
A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.


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LEARN ABOUT HOW BASHERS WORK: For instance: did you know that some Bashers are paid?

Golden Rule:

IGNORE THEM ...learn how professional Bashers are paid: When you REPLY to Bashers you give them an opportunity to earn appox. 5-7 dollars. The service agreement they enter into with their employer states their messages will be monitored for content, profanity, lies, etc. but Overseers and the like don't have the time to check all their Bashers messages. Only occasional spot checks are done. Those who manage the Basher will generally read the headlines to see if a Basher is replying to other posters by name. That tells them the Basher isn't just "posting blindly" or repeating the same message over and over since they won't pay for those.(True to form a Basher will put the bite on anyone, even their unscrupulous employer). A Basher will attempt to milk three to five replies per post at one to two dollars each. This way the Basher spreads negative influence to as many stockholders as possible. A Basher will create this discussion thread because it takes less time reading more messages than is necessary. This ultimately allows the Basher more time to post and make money. In general, NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER. Make them read all the posts and think up ways to enter the discussion. NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE BASHER,S AID! If you feel compelled to challenge a Basher do so without mentioning his/her true alias in your response. This will make it hard for the Basher to use your post as a revenue stream. Read the news, do your own homework and make your own decisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a couple of weeks. Due Diligence is key here. Know that there will be a time when the stock runs up which will be followed followed by the Bashers and those that missed the boat. The Bashers will trash the stock by saying such things as "it's a Pump and Dump" and "the company is lying" and deceiving. There goal is to scare off newbies and potential new investors by "shaking" you out of your shares. Take the time to confirm your DD ,trust your own judgement and believe in yourself, pick your point of return or loss and live with it. Don't listen to hype or Bashers trust your own judgement. Live by the rules you have created .


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HOW TO IDENTIFY A BASHER


1. Check the "Born on Date" Bashers create identities on a regular basis. Rarely do you find a Basher with older "Created On" date. So click on the Identity icon for more details.


2. Take the time to look at the Basher's history of Posts. Go to other boards and see if their is a pattern to the theme of the posts. Bashers rarely waste time trying to blend in with "positive" posts, unless they are cultivating a new uninformed assistant.


3. When did the Basher show up. Bashers rarely show up when activity is in at a Lull. They show up when activity up/down..


4. Bashers never answer direct questions except with another question.


5. Bashers do work in teams (sometimes themselves as a team). So be suspicious of someone showing up and automatically having a Shadow to converse with who supports their argument.


6. Bashers always select "an argument" that can never be resolved by research.


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The Basher 'Pack' Mentality

Bashers love to work in packs. It provides the quintessential cover to achieve supposedly "independent" validation of an argument. It is neither independent nor validating.

Pack Structure: Basher Packs can be comprised of any number of Bashers. They can be purposely formed within an organization or they can be "ad hoc" formed during a conclave on a particular board. In fact a pack mentality can be achieved by an ambitious "party of one" with a few select aliases.

Once a pack is formed, a leader emerges. This leader is usually acknowledged by other Bashers because of 1. Knowledge of the stock. or 2. Recognition by current board Longs (high visibility). Once established the Leader will usually work the Pack members up in to a posting frenzy. Constantly changing themes and even occasionally biting the ear of another pack member (this earns instant credibility), and it doesn't offend the bitten Basher because he/she knows it is all part of the effect. Quite sophisticated.

Packs will disband and slink away without notice. Usually this is the call of the Pack Leader who is adept at recognizing overplay. More often than not, Pack members must move on because they have other Bashing commitments to fulfill. They will return to the site of a good hunt over and over again, until hamstringing is achieved.

What calls a pack together. The Cry of the Leader. Certain Bashers love to work together. They know each others bite, how to feign in and out, it is a well choreographed Bash when pack members have worked together before. They constantly check their "Sites Du Jour" for signs of Pack activity. Occasionally they will throw out a "Nibbler" Bash to see if the pack responds or if not they can work the site themselves. It's all about effectiveness, time and earning money.

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Golden Rule:

IGNORE THEM ...

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ummm...regarding my DD, it was kind of a joke. I just found it interesting that my other stock was in with this stock. BTW...I don't think that list is in alphabetical order. The Q appears before the C.

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this stock sucks. Nothing. No news. Nothing.

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The calm before the snore! [Wink]

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This is their biggest, most expensive, most extravagent, most reported, most visible month.....and the stock just sits here. What a joke.

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Methinks we're getting swindled from behind. No pun intended.

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Grade 'F' Basher:
A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.

Golden Rule:

IGNORE THEM ...

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quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
quote:
Originally posted by jackpot:
[qb] Now I'm causing mayhem? Give me a break....
I'm calling it as I (note the word "I") see it.
Now if I were to say nothing but positive, would I be a pumper. How can people be so close minded?

In actual fact, there is a large difference between pumping, bashing and just having a decent conversation. The people on this board who wish to have a discussion would like to do so without your arrogance and ignorance. Saying positive things does not make you a pumper. As for the people on this board supply links to back up what they are saying or say up from where they got it from. Continual negative comments identifies you that you are disgruntled. However, you supply nothing to back up your statements nor do you attempt to have a decent conversation. You seem to play both sides of the fence. As for personal attack on Rod, that just makes you obnoxious and ignorant.
Good reply and I agree wholeheartedly. But we both know it's a waste of time to respond to people like jackpot. I don't know or care why he posts as he does, so I just ignore him and others like him.

By the way, I appreciate the information you provided on bashers, etc. I've saved it for future reference. GLTA and go Q.

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In my defense, while saying "the stock is junk" might be facicious, I brought up a legitimate concern:

"This is their biggest, most expensive, most extravagent, most reported, most visible month.....and the stock just sits here."

That is something to at least regard with an explanation rather than just write it off as "grade-f bashing"

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I sent this e-mail to Richard after someone posted that the license were to expire on May 31st 2005. Here is his reply from today. Apparently he has been out of town and very busy with all the Pride activities.

Doctoall. GO QBID!!!!! Bring On The Green [Big Grin]

From: Equity Relations Inc SentThu 8/9/2005 804am
To: Wayne *******[doctoall@************]
Subject: RE BUSINESS LICENSE CORPORATE RENEWAL

This has been taken care of.

Regards,
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From: Wayne ******* [mailto Doctoall@******]
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 7:55 PM
To: staff@equityrelations.com
Subject: Business License Corporate Renewal

Rich; the big buzz on the chat boards is if Frank did the renewal and filing that was due on May 31st 2005. Will you please clarify, as usual the bashers are running with this one. Please give us some clarification on this one.

Wayne ********
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"This has been taken care of."

Sounds like they've been using shareholder dollars to pay off some people. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Maestro232:
"This has been taken care of."

Sounds like they've been using shareholder dollars to pay off some people. [Wink]

Sounds like you need to get back to your village they are looking for their Idiot [Big Grin]

GO QBID!!!!!! Bring on the Green [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Maestro232:
In my defense, while saying "the stock is junk" might be facicious, I brought up a legitimate concern:

"This is their biggest, most expensive, most extravagent, most reported, most visible month.....and the stock just sits here."

That is something to at least regard with an explanation rather than just write it off as "grade-f bashing"

Maestro, you need to determine what type of investor you are and then run with that type of investing. Are you a daytrader? If so QBID probably isn't for you. Are you a buy-and-hold type of guy? They QBID would probably be a good choice for you. If you are the daytrader type of investor please don't ask for someone to clarify your concerns because this HASN'T been there most "their biggest, most expensive, most extravagent, most reported, most visible month", you are looking for the quick payday (1 week!?) and you are not going to get it here.

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quote:
Originally posted by mydogsky:
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Originally posted by Maestro232:
In my defense, while saying "the stock is junk" might be facicious, I brought up a legitimate concern:

"This is their biggest, most expensive, most extravagent, most reported, most visible month.....and the stock just sits here."

That is something to at least regard with an explanation rather than just write it off as "grade-f bashing"

Maestro, you need to determine what type of investor you are and then run with that type of investing. Are you a daytrader? If so QBID probably isn't for you. Are you a buy-and-hold type of guy? Then QBID would probably be a good choice for you. If you are the daytrader type of investor please don't ask for someone to clarify your concerns because this HASN'T been "their biggest, most expensive, most extravagent, most reported, most visible month", you are looking for the quick payday (1 week!?) and you are not going to get it here.

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Been a member for 13 days and has posted 100 negative slants on this thread concerning "Q".

You think that he has a purpose with this stock, maybe an agenda.

GO QBID!!!!!! Bring On Some Green [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Maestro232:
This is their biggest, most expensive, most extravagent, most reported, most visible month.....and the stock just sits here. What a joke.

15 more trading days (after today) left in this month...
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No, I'm not looking for a quick buck. I'm holding tons of CHDT, which is definitely a long investment. But, when good things happen, I expect the stock to move at least an ounce, even if it goes back down a week later. Otherwise, one is right to be skeptical about whether some insiders are manipulating things for their own benefit.

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quote:
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No, I'm not looking for a quick buck. I'm holding tons of CHDT, which is definitely a long investment. But, when good things happen, I expect the stock to move at least an ounce, even if it goes back down a week later. Otherwise, one is right to be skeptical about whether some insiders are manipulating things for their own benefit.

101 post of nothing but crap, how many shares of this stock do you have?

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250,000

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You know, for someone who is bothered by my sweeping statements, I'd say you just let out a doosie: "101 posts of nothing but crap".

Come on, there are a few posts there which are legitimate comments.

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quote:
Originally posted by Maestro232:
250,000

And you are doing all this stressing for $500.00 now that is sad, that is unless you bought them for 0.0090 in the fall [Smile]

I get the feeling that you are a chronic whinner and it won't make any difference what people will tell you, you thrive in being negative. Well you just go on and have a boring day in your negative world.

You remind me of another posted who was here awhile ago, all he did was whine about everything, can't remember his name but maybe you are a relative of his because you sound the same. I am done with you, negative people are boring.

GO QBID!!!!!!! Give Us Some Green [Big Grin]

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MM signals 2500 = whatever

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In the meantime, I just got some fill at .0019. I put my order in late yesterday.

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You have not shown any evidence the after hours activity can be stock repurchases for QBID. Your two points, the 25% volume and after hours purchases, clearly go against the safe harbor rules for market manipulation provided by the SEC.

http://www.sec.gov/rules/final/33-8335.htm

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how about answering some of the questions then that i have directed to you.

please enlighten us on who is buying these dilution shares after hours in such large blocks?

Please enlighten us on how you see the price dropping every day and you loosing more money down the crapper everyday.

Please fill us in on what you see. and what do you have to back it up?

Please use your freedom of speech to show us these things.

Please use your superior insight to enlighten us.

AND PLEASE DONT JUST SAY THIS IS HOW I SEE IT.


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What's up with the 20000 buys?

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