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DrDiamond
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A Correction: Sorry for the error: It should have been:

I don't care if any that have a bad opinion of CMKX ever buys a share because I am not promoting or pumping the company, but only trying to support my investment and my fellow investors.


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awww dr d dont go we are getting tired of poking holes in legels stuff. its too easy. we need a challenge. in fact poking holes in the cmkx faithful cults ideas have proven quite easy. i will say i hope you can prove a NS as it will help real companies that truely suffer from NS problems. unfortunatly cmkx suffers from UC problems.

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Dr. D, please stick around, it would save me a lot of copying and pasting here. You are exactly what this forum needs.
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well if you cant stand the heat you get out of the kitchen.

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Dr. D, check your mail here.
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well legal, i thought you would have a partner at least for a while. i guess not. i would sure like to know how he figures a NS is proven. frizzys numbers leave it short almost 150 billion shares & logic says almost every large shareholder has been counted. even more so since they can fax the numbers in free & not join the OG. & that includes every cert share out there. there is no proof or even a hint of proof UC bought share #1 off the open market. & if he bought more then 10% he is in deeper trouble with the SEC. even pinks have to file insider buys & sells.

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This was a brilliant investment.......LOL

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Well, DrD, I guess you know my position re CMKX, UC and cohorts.

You stated:
"It is amazing though how negatively convinced someone can be with no real facts in their possession,

What do you mean "no real facts in their possession"? You have been worse than anyone in turning and twisting facts into something else thoughout all of your postings. What do you call no records? What do you call two tiny diamond specks? What do you call no financials reported to the SEC or to shareholders? What do you call taking the 5th by Urban Casavant? What do you call misleading/false statements on Form 15? What do you call not filing 10Qs/10Ks with the SEC? What do you call not having any drilling expenses for 2004? What do you call giving monies to CIM and for what good reason? What do you call the Carolyn pipe being a complete failure? What do you call....I GIVE UP! You and others will continue the charade as long as you can, no matter how much it may have drawn or draw others into supporting your pps.

You stated: I guess it is "hoping that others hope fails".

You must be out of your mind that stating facts such as many of us have presented is "hoping that others hope fails". NO! Just an attempt to show others reality so they don't make the same mistakes again by listening to someone such as yourself who starts and encourages hopeless hope.

You also stated:
"I am not promoting or pumping the company, but only tryiong to support my investment and my fellow investors."

Obviously you have no idea or concept of exactly what constitutes promoting and pumping. You have done nothing but promote and pump CMKX. Maybe you are in for a lawsuit as well for your so called contributions to shareholder losses. I do not think it would be a bad thing to happen to someone such as yourself or to any major pumper.

How can you even look yourself in the mirror knowing that many people may have purchased and lost considerable amounts of money because of something you have said, twisted, spun, omitted, or etc.?

[ May 18, 2005, 00:04: Message edited by: Wallace#1 ]

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Well I guess he's gone. Didn't answer any questions, just came in here to politely tell us we're all fools. Oh well.
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Come on Wallace, they have facts. CMKX sponsors a race car. UC bought a new 3 million dollar home and a Hummer. He travels the country promoting the sell of CMKX shares at the race tracks. He has parties in Vegas. See, lots of facts.

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bill wrote: "every large shareholder has been counted. even more so since they can fax the numbers in free & not join the OG."

Yes, bill, and it gives FizzleFrazzle the perfect list to bring class action suits against UC and cohorts, pumpers (maybe even people like DrD) and former advisors such as RG, Desormeau, etc.

DrD,

Yes, stay around. It will be an extreme pleasure for some of us to mince words with a person as knowledgeable as yourself. Maybe you will either give some answers or get some REALITY ANSWERS about CMKX. However, if you have been a member for as long as you say, reality has not yet set in, huh?

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quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Dr. D, please stick around, it would save me a lot of copying and pasting here. You are exactly what this forum needs.

Oh by the way what flavor kool-aid do you like? [Big Grin]

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On to more tantalizing posts: DeliDogs serving up Chicago Style Dogs at the Joliet event. Free for shareholders: http://www.delidoghouse.com/jolietevent.htm
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Proof sometimes is like a good recipe that has been assembled with every ingredient added in the exact and precise measurement, mixed appropriately according to the prescribed instructions and set in the environment to cook until the predetermined and expected results have been achieved. I believe even Frizzell has shown that we are bringing forth the recipe to successfully "prove" that a NSS position on CMKX is and has been an "absolute".

Either that or Frizzell needs his head examined for falsifying information to the SEC.

I appreciate your need and desire for entertainment bill-1352, (poking holes [Smile] ) but I am not here for your pleasure or displeasure I am simply here because some of my fellow investors asked me to stop by and say hi and I have agreed to do so. Too, I see you sold your position on CMKX and chose to take a loss, which that does leave a bad taste in someones mouth for sure. I don't know why you bought or why you sold, but I am sure you had your reasons.

I bought in 2 years ago after doing some research on the claims and looking at the low cost for the investment opportunity. I have found CMKM Diamonds to be a roller coaster of and adventure that has set records in trading and probably others that we will find out soon.
Just for ha ha's how would you process the info that Bill Frizzell has supplied to the SEC and the shareholders to date carrying some 57 million each.

I believe the numbers will drop more as the other shareholders report and their data is collected, but it would have to drop below 2 million per remaining shareholder for there to not be a NSS position already in place for CMKX. Even in my optimistic view I see no way that 52,000 more shareholders bought less than 2 million shares on the average. Too, not all of the huge shareholders are on board yet with the shareholders Group, believe it or not.

You will be right until the recipe is finished cooking and then the proof of the cummulative efforts of all of the added ingredients will prevail and the NSS position will be exposed and will show that it was an absolute for sometime the problem was that it was concealed.

Remember the world was believed to be flat and the center of the universe until just over 100 years ago or so. The absolute is that it was round and revolved around the sun with other planets, but it was concealed. This made it no less an absolute that it was round and revolved around the sun, the problem being that it just had to cook until those listening could receive the truth of the obvious.

Thanks for listening. JMHO and I ask that you treat them as such.

Success to all.

Dr.D

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This request is being made on behalf of 5,050 shareholders of CMKX stock. These shareholders own over 300 billion shares of common stock. This number does not include shareholders who possess certificates of ownership. A current NOBO/OBO list has confirmed that there exists a minimum of 59,669 accounts in various firms with holdings of CMKX. A December 2004 certificate detail report from the transfer agent states that 2033 people hold certificates of ownership. Those certificates represent 326 billion shares being held by individuals other than Cede and Co. By these numbers 626 billion shares are owned by only 7,083 shareholders. The company states that 703 billion shares are issued and outstanding. The CMKX shareholders that own the balance of the 59,669 accounts (an estimated 50,000) are confirmed owners of the remaining of the outstanding stock. I trust you can understand our need for the information requested in this document. I will be glad to provide you with documentation of my group’s share ownership upon your request.

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GEEZ these guys will do anything to protect this SCAM.

CMKX is nothing but a SCAM. [Big Grin] The only people who got rich with this stock is Urban et al. and his low life pumpers. I am still holding my certs so that I will never run out of azz wipe, actually not even a good quality paper.

Dr. D if my shares are worth so much then you should not mind giving me $1.25 per share now should you?

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DrD wrote:
"I believe even Frizzell has shown that we are bringing forth the recipe to successfully "prove" that a NSS position on CMKX is and has been an "absolute".

RESP: We have already discussed recipes....including crow, spare ribs and other things. This is no cooking class when it comes to CMKX and the damage created.

DrD stated:
"I am simply here because some of my fellow investors asked me to stop by and say hi and I have agreed to do so."

RESP: I thought you said you were doing something other than "promoting or pumping" CMKX.
Something like maybe thinking about addressing UC's "Master Plan", the conflicts of interest involved, the precise nature of expenses and where monies have gone, why no 2004 drilling expenses, etc., etc.

You also said:
"Remember the world was believed to be flat and the center of the universe until just over 100 years ago or so. The absolute is that it was round and revolved around the sun with other planets, but it was concealed. This made it no less an absolute that it was round and revolved around the sun, the problem being that it just had to cook until those listening could receive the truth of the obvious."

RESP: Now both a history lesson and a cooking lesson reference just to take up space and spout off words.

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Hey Doc, if you have just a 1 share certificate I will give you the $1.25 for it. It would look great framed above the bathroom toilet with a "classic" quote beneath. I am serious! Just one though. I don't want to go broke buying CMKX.

Guess what, if you do and we make the deal, it will never show up on the daily trading volume. Of course, like I said before, the same would be true if we traded 5 million CMKX shares.

PS: Don't tell that to legal, Debi, Van or any of the CT people. They think they will show up.

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He scares ya, huh, Wallace. LOL
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Actually DrD, the way the final numbers are going to flush out are that approximately 11,900 shareholders are going to own about 560 billion shares, (roughly 47 million each) and about 47,700 share holders are going to hold the remaining 143 billion or about 3 million each. That is based on a proven statistical model and my assertion that Urban and other insider holdings are negligible.
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quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
He scares ya, huh, Wallace. LOL

Oh yeah! Really scared. What a laugh....more of a joke. Even you, legal, are not that demented.
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Well, at least Dr. D conducted himself as a gentleman. Can't say that about his detractors.
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How about some powder for your nose, legal?
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Originally posted by Legaleagle:
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Well, at least Dr. D conducted himself as a gentleman. Can't say that about his detractors.
Hey! I behaved, I even gave him 5 stars just for showing up!
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Up, do you rank yourself with the "detractors". You are a neg, but you don't stoop to bashing people.
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Wallace,

I will humor you with answers I am sure you will reject!

Question #1 What do you mean "no real facts in their possession"?
Answer #1 i would ask a few questions of you in this resolve. Have you seen the claims reports? Lab results? TDEM results? Financials? Share Structure? Are you an insider? What Facts do you think you have? I would venture to say you have very few like the rest of us.

Question #2 What do you call no records?
Answer #2 How do you have a draft of 2002, 2003, 2004 already admitted to in the Hearing without records? Sure they were sorry at keeping books, I never said they weren't. Your No Records statement sir is "no fact" at all!

Question #3 What do you call two tiny diamond specks?
Answer#3 Where do you get your information from to know that the company reported only two diamond specs? CMKM Diamonds never reported that. Let's try and stay focused if we can. Remember we are stating facts! You must be referring to a very minute set of core sample results that were sent by a JV partner from a partial lab test on Carolyn around a year ago. I didn't invest on or party over our JV's partial reports which were never confirmed or reported to be the results of all of the core samples taken. I would call two diamond specs though - weak evidence that those core samples tested came from the center of a diamondiferous kimberlite pipe.

Question #4 What do you call no financials reported to the SEC or to shareholders?
Answer #4 From what I read of the "facts", a Form 15 was filed by the company in July of 2003 that removed their filing requirements. We all know now that the Form 15 was discovered recently to have been filed in error, but that is the reason no financials were filed. Even with "no obligation" to file, Urban was still spending money and taking steps to be fully reporting and still is today. Why would you do that if you were trying to hide something? You don't. You take the money you've made, file bankruptcy, shut it down and move on.

Question #5 What do you call taking the 5th by Urban Casavant?
Answer #5 His constitutional right. A lot of good men fought and died for his right to take the 5th for whatever reason he choses too. If an officer of a company knows that the information he has been supplied with is not complete or in error and you have the SEC or anyone else in a courtroom holding you accountable for every word you utter, you take the 5th, if your smart.

Question #6 What do you call misleading/false statements on Form 15?
Answer#6 - I would call it an error of management at some level and degree nearly 2 years ago that would need to have a Form 15A filed in order to correct the mistake and that is exactly what happened. There is no evidence that this was done intentionally or fraudulently seeing that if that were the case CMKX would be halted right now and Urban Casavant that signed off on the original Form 15 would have charges filed against him. The "fact" is we are not halted and Urban does not have these charges filed against him to my knowledge.


Question #7 What do you call not filing 10Qs/10Ks with the SEC?
Answer #7 See answer #4

Question #8 What do you call not having any drilling expenses for 2004?
Answer #8 Could you give me a link to that information so I could review it in it's entirety. I have not seen that one. If it is the case then that is one "fact" that I have not seen. My guess would be, that our JV's must have shouldered the cost seeing that they were more than likely in position to absorb these expenses as part of the Joint Venture. In all truth, that one I don't know for sure.


Question #9 What do you call giving monies to CIM and for what good reason?
Answer # 9 I think it was obvious that we gave money to CIM for 10% of the profits for lifetime. Plenty of Zinc claims where 10% would definitely be worth more than the 1 million dollars we paid for them. Plus it was a spin off that the company gave shareholders a stake in and I would not believe there is anything wrong with boosting it for the potential benefit of all. Also - There is no way you could know that it was a "fact" that "it was for no good reason".
You are breaking the rules here.

Question #10 What do you call the Carolyn pipe being a complete failure?
Answer # 10 - No fact! There is no evidence that Carolyn was a complete failure, except possibly to us. Obviously our JV partners were responsible for keeping the claim up to date and failed to do so, for some reason. Carolyn may be in the hands of Aztec or some other company at this point, but it was one target amongst many. It sounds like someone placed high hopes way beyond reality and wanted to make a million over night.

What do you call....I GIVE UP!
I'm glad you gave up! [Smile]

It seems that some of your facts are not necessarily negative facts at all. I have spent too long trying to answer these questions. Thanks for trying to base your questions on "true facts" as it was interesting.

Personally, however, I don't think the bashing of my character or the intent on which I support the company is of any fact to you whatsoever. I appreciate your position and you are entitled to it, but I would appreciate it if you would return a little respect my way as well.

Thank you sir.

Good day. I hope you succeed in your investments and learn to be a little more considerate.

Be well.

Dr.D

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Great! Before I read them I will LMAO, OK?

"I will humor you with answers I am sure you will reject!"

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DrD,

Read your weasel worded responses. They lack merit. Still LMAO!

"I would appreciate it if you would return a little respect my way as well."

RESP: You must first earn it!!! Just as do UC, Glenn, Dhonau, Desormeau, Williams, Casavant family members, Dvorak and others.

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Now, I am tired from all the difficulty I have had responding to both legal and DrD. LOL Good night.
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Hi Wallace,

I read some of your other comments about me. Very distasteful IMHO.

Are you a representative of the typical response one can get when coming to the All Stocks boards?
Does everyone get this kind of treatment from you?

If one disagrees with another it should be done within the framework of some kind of decorum. I can see that a logical conversation within those parameters may be unlikely to manifest with you, so do not take offence if I do not respond to any more of your outbursts or rantings.

I am very new to this board although I am not new to confrontation. I did not come to confront, convince, or connive. I see you have an agenda and I do not intend to play along. I made an effort to be reasonable and I ca see it was unacceptable to you.

I enjoy conversing with reasonable and logical investors that may have a contribution to make whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant as I understand completely I don't have all of the answers to the questions I have, but I am searching for solutions and not slanders.

Thank you very much for your time. I assure you I did not intend on intruding your domain of negativity.

Be well. Success to you with all sincerity.

Dr.D

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I like that, under 300 shareholders when really 689 is a mistake. You make a mistake when your 10% off not 130% off. Come on here, thats silly to thank thats an error. geez

The no expenses for 2004 came out of the Admin hearing.

Well no records is what CMKX has given to anyone, like auditors. UC said he had Voids in the records. How big is the void is dependant on what UC needs to hide.

But you said it all. Basically you agree with us. That the company refuses to give information. So how can you say this is a sound investment when all you can do is hope they aren't lying to you.

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Very weak response Wallace. All you can do is attack the messenger instead of the message.
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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Actually DrD, the way the final numbers are going to flush out are that approximately 11,900 shareholders are going to own about 560 billion shares, (roughly 47 million each) and about 47,700 share holders are going to hold the remaining 143 billion or about 3 million each. That is based on a proven statistical model and my assertion that Urban and other insider holdings are negligible.

Hi Upside.

That is very interesting. I know it would probably be a bother, but I would be very interested in looking at the input and the output that produced those stats.

Are they based on known and quoted shareholder/share numbers? The reports testified on the SEC request by Frizzell shows Much higher figures, that he says can be proven. Also he states that those numbers exclude anything that CEDE holds. Thats tough to compete with when he is looking at the OBO/NOBO lists and taking numbers from the T/A records.

I am interested in looking at anything you can share, and I assure you that it will be appreciated and treated with confidentiality.

TIA.

Dr.D

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quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
I like that, under 300 shareholders when really 689 is a mistake. You make a mistake when your 10% off not 130% off. Come on here, thats silly to thank thats an error. geez

The no expenses for 2004 came out of the Admin hearing.

Well no records is what CMKX has given to anyone, like auditors. UC said he had Voids in the records. How big is the void is dependant on what UC needs to hide.

But you said it all. Basically you agree with us. That the company refuses to give information. So how can you say this is a sound investment when all you can do is hope they aren't lying to you.

Hi Ric,

I appreciate your comments.

Statement: I like that, under 300 shareholders when really 689 is a mistake. You make a mistake when your 10% off not 130% off. Come on here, thats silly to thank thats an error. geez

Answer:The CFO was Dave Desormeau from 2002-2004 and the accounting responsibilities were on him. I believe Wesley Casavant was also coordinating Desormeau's new fangled Computer Technology of linking everything together in Jan 2003. The company is relatively new in this shell (Cybermark). Urban was no bookkeeper and he knew it, so he hired those that should have known. I believe they advised him and he signed it trusting that it was a legitimate filing.


I didn't mean to infer that 300 could be mistaken for 698. I do agree that 300 is not 698 shareholders, but where did the numbers come from? They should have came from the T/A. If the Form 15 was filed with intent and it is proven, then I would expect the SEC to call Urban on it, because he signed off on it. This still could happen as the Hearing is not actually over yet. But, a misfiled Form 15 does not negate the validity of the company and its chances for success, IMHO.

Statement #2: The no expenses for 2004 came out of the Admin hearing.
Answer: Thanks, I missed that. I am very much looking forward to seeing the transcript as I couldn't make the hearing. Do you have a link to the info quoting it from the hearing? There may be other things I missed. TIA

Statement #3: Well no records is what CMKX has given to anyone, like auditors. UC said he had Voids in the records. How big is the void is dependant on what UC needs to hide.

Answer: I would disagree as to there being "no records" although what they did have pretty much were in sad shape and I believe had to be reconstructed. I believe the "voids" have to do with records they are still trying to recreate. There is always a paper trail and it can be followed especially when you are using a check book and dealing in shares. It may take some time, but Maheu said they could do it, and I am believing he knows better about what is in the company's possession than I do.

I think your statement "How big is the void is dependant on what UC needs to hide" is unqualified, but definitely within your realm of opinion and I can respect your position.

Statement #4 : But you said it all. Basically you agree with us. That the company refuses to give information. So how can you say this is a sound investment when all you can do is hope they aren't lying to you.

Answer: I'm not sure I agree with you, as I do not know what you believe. I do not believe that the company refuses to give us information, if that is the inference? I believe they could give us more than they have given us, but I believe what we really want to hear they can't give us, not won't give us. I don't think it is a "refusal" I think for one that the attorney's have squashed the release of most of the information we want to hear. Financials and Share Structure evidently is in question and it would be improper to give out numbers and statements that can't be "fully" supported and substantiated by the company. These are the key factors that are being worked on in the company, but they are being worked on and it appears in our current professionals opinions that they are confident they will be successful.

I believe there is more involved here than "hoping they are not lying to me" as a great deal of effort has been employed by myself and others to research everything that "is available" whether it is in the USA, Canada, Ecuador, etc... I don't think there is a so called "sound investment" without some kind of reasonable assumption that you have confidence in the ability of the company, its industry, its assets, its direction, potential, etc... I don't know of a Pink Sheet company that would meet my requirements for a "sound investment". Its a risk, we all knew that, know that and no one should be denying that. But that doesn't make it a loser, because it is volatile and risky.

Has CMKM Diamonds been handled like a Microsoft or General Electric? Absolutely not, but no one should have expected it to be either. Not at these prices. The company has the potential through the development of "proven assets" in Canada, USA, Ecuador, JV's, etc... to produce an incredible return per investment dollar.

The potential is there, in my opinion. The management team has, thus far, not proven itself to be successful in accomplishing significant development in the assets as too have proven increases in the shareholder value and/or the market value of the security. But, the potential is still there. The management team is changing, developing, internally Maheu said they are overhauling the management team. That makes the investment that much more "sound" IMHO. Because a "true seasoned management team" will be able to secure the company internally so that it can catch up to what it has developed into externally.

Simply it grew to far to fast and they weren't ready for it. They are getting ready and the potential and probabilities are still there. IMHO

I have said and still say you should never invest anything in a Pink Sheet stock, especially in the Mining Industry, which is mostly exploration and development, that you are not willing to risk 100% loss.

Many of us have received 3 dividends (that may show value one day and may not), but we have them nonetheless and we are still in the mining business, with or without a security registration.

Anyone that thinks the market isn't a gamble regardless of the company and or security must not have been around for the Enron, WorldCom, and Dot.Com scenarios. I saw them all and survived through them all, but just barely at times. Those were portrayed by the "market" as being sound investments.

I believe CMKX is as sound as one would expect in the pinks/otc for these prices and with the incredible adventure it has been I wouldn't have traded it for all of my money back at this point.

Sorry for taking so long! I do that on occasion.

Thanks for your input Ric.

Be well.

Dr.D [Cool] [Big Grin]

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I think a lot of everything is IMO but not all. For example the 703 billion o/s and that float is over 300 billion but don't know how much over because UC state that in March PR by stating shareholders list which has to have all insiders on it and all voting JV's aand cert holders. Since float wasn't stated itself then no one know what it is exactly above 300 billion. Could be 696 billion for all we know (703 billion minus original share distrubution).

There are a few other facts but almost every part of the company is hidden from the shareholders. Why hide good information. And I have heard the spill why but this is a reporting company. And if UC really does intend to file then whats the big deal with being honest with the shareholders. Basically all information from July 2003 to March 2nd 2005 is one big void. PR's were vague at best given so much room for theories with no real facts and O/S was not only hidden but led to believe very low. What was the statement something like we would be happily surprised by the o/s. Don't know about you but I wasn't very happy with it. But UC taken the 5th is no surprise to me. He has taken the 5th since 2003 to the shareholders.

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FRIZZELL LAW FIRM
305 S. Broadway, Suite 302
Tyler, Texas 75702
(903)595-1921
Fax (903)595-4383
E-Mail jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com

May 17, 2005


Letter to the Troops


Greetings to All,

Yesterday, a very supportive shareholder came by the office as he was
in town handling other business. During an office tour and subsequent
conversation it occurred to me that many of you may not fully
understand the task we have undertaken; therefore, the following. .


John and I have conducted many tours of the work areas for quite a
number of shareholders in the past weeks, but this particular tour
gave me reason to write this letter. The questions from this
shareholder were similar to questions asked by most of you in emails
and phone calls. However I feel the need to digress for a moment and
review the big picture of what our mutual task has become.


War on Naked Shorts


Thousands of CMKX shareholders have invested millions (and possibly
billions of dollars) in a micro penny stock having the potential to
become a solid long term investment and may enjoy a huge run-up in the
short run if progress can continue to be made on several fronts. This
investment by shareholders was made during a time when a serious
trading technique known as naked shorting flourished in the market
place. Most of us knew little of its damaging effects and were
willing to risk substantial funds once we heard of the potential value
of the claims owned in Canada by CMKX. As we all sit amazed at the
unending cellar boxing of our stock, we have joined together to fight
the lawbreakers responsible for this illness in the stock market.


Are We Fighting Some Death Spiral Financing?


I will try not to be overly dramatic about the effects on our stock of
the market participants that see no problem violating SEC covering
rules existing on the SEC books since the passing of the 1934 Act. To
add to our challenge, we are slowly learning about another devious
financing technique known as death spiral financing: this is a *******
child of naked shorting. The effects are the same for the most part
except a takeover by the financier is sometimes an initial underlying
purpose. I cannot confirm that CMKX management entered into any such
agreement, but I have serious concerns about the distribution of our
stock and how certain people came into possession of that stock. I
will have more info for you as my investigation proceeds. As I see
it, this is merely one more battle for us as a group. As our staff
pours over stock transfer records and the NOBO/OBOlists, in
conjunction with various pr's and documents we have found from
2002
and 2003, we are piecing together a very detailed chronology of
company events and transactions. I am not sounding an alarm nor am I
ready to point fingers, but we are gaining the knowledge needed to
proceed and help our company..


The Immediate Task


I took delight in answering questions yesterday regarding the assembly
line we have set up to document the share ownership by the vast
majority of CMKX shareholders. We have gone to great expense to use
current technology to assist us in creating a digital mass of records,
which can be presented, in one single CD to anyone requiring proof of
the massive short selling of our stock. I read yesterday that Senator
Shelby has become interested in looking into the CMKX
matter--wouldn't
it be nice if we could hand Senator Shelby and others a single CD
proving, without question, that a company's stock had been naked
shorted and that such shorting continues as we speak? Never before
has any company sought to gather monthly statements from its
shareholders to show what sales have occurred through the brokerage
houses as proof of illegal short selling. We have been told we will
be lucky to get 20% to 30% of the shareholders to respond to our
requests. Fortunately for us, even 20% to 30% will document a
massive naked short position in this stock.


Very few of the group's members have actually seen the final work
product of the fax in campaign. When I met with the SEC on the day
after the hearing in Los Angeles, I carried with me a 100-page summary
containing a line of information for every shareholder that faxed his
or her statement into our office. I also carried a CD ROM, which
contained a tif. file for each document faxed to us. Any person
(Congressman, Judge, or SEC Attorney) can put this CD in his or her
computer and have access to the information we have compiled. The
first page appearing on the CD reads as follows:


Exhibit __

CMKX DIAMONDS, INC.
Shareholder List
(verified by brokerage statements and issuer current NOBO list)

Total Share Amount: 302,097,079,212


First Name


Last Name


Acct Num


Acct Type


Share Amount


Broker


Cusip


File Name


Each page with the heading above has fifty lines containing the above
info on fifty different shareholders. When anyone clicks his or her
mouse on any one line, the document pops up in its entirety. It will
be difficult for anyone to dispute our evidence when gathered in this
way. The ultimate key to our success is to have as many shareholders
as possible forward their information to our office so we can document
the total owned shares.


Why have companies never taken the trouble to combat the naked short
sellers? More often than not the company being victimized is on shaky
grounds to start with. Generally, they have a poor product or
unscrupulous management. The devastating effects of such short
selling have proven effective in bankrupting the targeted companies so
in most cases the investors write off the loss and simply swear off
pink sheet stock investing. Well, I am proud to say that I represent
thousands of shareholders who want to straighten out this mess and are
willing to back the company for the fight.


Many Americans have a dream of starting a small company and some day
walk it through the steps of becoming a public company. Should
everyone have to fear an attack and market manipulation by market
makers and hedge funds if they want to start small in the market and
work their way up? Should everyone be forced to fear collusion by the
brokerage houses and the market makers when you deliver your hard
earned dollars to your broker? The answer is a very emphatic NO!


Thus, I encourage you to continue banding together and keeping up the
good fight. You would be amazed at what a group of 50,000 people with
a common purpose can accomplish. I want to accumulate monthly
brokerage statements totaling one trillion shares in this stock. I am
confident this goal can be reached in a reasonably short period of
time. We are beginning our mail-out campaign today to many
shareholders that have not faxed in their share information. I would
appreciate your encouragement to those that have not sent their info
in for whatever reason. This documentation will serve you well.


We will report to you our progress.


Onward,


Bill


PS. Check out the newly designed CMKX Owners Group web site at
www.cmkxownersgroup.com If you have not already sent in your
brokerage statement, go to the web site in the document section and
click on the icon titled Naked Short Fax Campaign and follow the
directions.

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