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Shakeman !!! LOL I almost forgot about that, thanks for reminding me, dusty.
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Heres a theory for you. The "Sellers" and UC got together and said hum, we have this property rights beside Debeers and a few other companies. They bought up the prime properties and these properties may have something on it but the expense to explore them to actually find something will cost us a fortune. But I bet we can convince the public we have something because were we are located.
We will take a shell and sell shares to people on the dreams of diamonds. We will get a few other companies started and pretend to have interest between us and pass back and forth money and shares like there is something real going on. When the money started rolling in they had to show proof of something to keep people buying the massive dilution.
They find a small gold mining in Equador real cheap then they go out and buy some gems to pass off as a real gem company. CMKX took the lead and CIM was a rouse to make the masses think they were getting thank you gifts from UC in form of DIVY's. Not that it was a real comany even though it is a LLC. Then the restricted GEMM? But you have a dividend, yeaaaaaaa.
Now USCA is second in line in the scam. They will take the lead after CMKX. While SGGM would bring up the rear in case they needed a back door. Other companies seeing the windfall that CMKX was pulling in wanted pieces of the pie and helped UC hide his money from sells of shares.
He hires name people to get the scam to look legit but refuses to tell them anything. He pays them big bucks and tells them to look pretty. They want to help but UC refuses to give them anything so they slowly walk out but happy with the money they are quiet about it.
UC picks on the unemployed and disabled. He goes to the race track to get the people who don't know much about the market and convinces them this will make them millionaires. He lies about how much shares are out there and even when busted by the SEC he still doesn't break it down so the cult followers can still dream there is no float.
He makes off mark statements that really mean nothing but can gives rise to theories and lays a trail of blame on everyone else. He has let the cult believe the "Sellers" and the SEC are the bad guys yet the Sellers IMO are in on it. They all made a killing on selling shares. I don't think by now there is one insider with shares left nor any of the A/S left.
You know 800 billion shares at even a avg. of .0001 made them 80 million clear in just 3 years. Put we know he sold a couple hundred billion from .0007 to .001. Man were do I sign up for that.
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quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: Dwman......I thought by now Wallace would of taken the bait!
Is he still making those clandestine raids on the ice box?
And I thought Upside was the only instigator on this thread! LOL So much for my thoughts!!!
Have to go now, good night all!
PS: Cannot do those refrig. raids now. Just had 6 upper teeth pulled today w/2 more to get pulled. Then, an upper. Man!! It's really great getting old, huh? No such thing as "The Golden Years"!!!!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by stockster5: [QB] I'm pretty sure this is a bankrupt company doing no business, there's has to be some sort of automatic system somewhere to alert sec or whomever of a defunct company..... This is just plain nuts....
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May I ask what Planet you have been on?
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i'll add to your theory Ric..UC in an effort to cover his tracks lends cmkx money thus making it look $36 million in the hole. at the same time he makes 2 buys of muti-million dollar gem collections. 1 of which is paid for with shares. he states in a pr this deal is canceled yet no proof it was. the second he never brings up to shareholders but tells a few ppl it was canceled too. gems are easy to covert to cash. the company is revoked with the few records kept saying its $36 million in the hole thus bankruptcy & the wiping out of all shares and assets is complete. UC walks with $115 million in gems, cash & a $3 million home.
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has cmkx ever put out a pr with this much detail????
CGHI -- Centurion Gold Holdings, Inc. Com ($0.0001)
COMPANY NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES FROM OTHER SOURCES:
Centurion Gold Holdings Increases Platinum Assets Through Acquisition of Fulloutput 259 Pty
Following on its recent acquisition of Naboom Platinum, Centurion Gold Holdings, Inc. (OTCBB:CGHI), announced today that it has acquired Fulloutput 259 Pty, a company securing Rights to the De Kroon platinum-ore bearing property. The De Kroon deposit is a platinum rich deposit bearing an indicated resource of 104,000 ounces of PGMs and an inferred platinum group resource of 240,000 ounces of PGMs, giving a Total PGM resource of approximately 351,000 oz. valued at $217.62 million. The Total Resource of 351,000 ounces is strategically placed between two Platinum majors and development from one of the neighboring mines has made this orebody highly accessible.
Fulloutput 259 Pty has submitted an application for prospecting permits for portions 157 and 159 in the area of De Kroon 444 JQ. All DME departments including the Legal and Finance division have given their clearance. The application has been approved at the Regional Level and is simply awaiting issuing in Pretoria.
Portions 157 and 159 are rich in geological data. Two adjacent properties have been mined, contributing significant information. Additionally, there are four geological exploration holes that offer information on structure and grade, which give a further fix on the location of the reef in space.
"The wealth of geological data on these two portions speeds up our exploration stage and will bring us closer to mining the platinum and generating revenues. We are moving ahead with our business strategy and we strongly believe that this acquisition strategy will bear revenue and earnings results for us in the future," stated Dale Paul, CEO of Centurion Gold Holdings.
Centurion's existing properties are valued at $4.89 billion and consist of gold resources of 6.74 million oz. with an estimated value of $2.86 billion, 1.41 million tons estimated chrome resource valued at $105.75 million, 5,000 tons of tin resources valued at $40.45 million, and 2.18 million oz. estimated platinum resource valued at $1.88 billion. Traditional valuation methods of 10% of resources value the Company's current holdings at $488.76 million, or $4.13 per share. Fulloutput 259 will add 351,000 oz. PGM resource valued at $217.62 million (based on a PGM basket price of $620/oz.), to Centurion's existing platinum resource; 10% valuation methods value the property at $21.76 million, thus revaluing the per share price to $3.79.
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Dustoff... it plainly states below my sig... Mars.
Again, my remarks were about a different co. So, your implying that bankrupt trading is the norm in micro stocks...
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some more theory...UC looks around, sees boatloads of dudes selling invisible shares, thinks how hard is this..?? figures mining is pretty vague to most people, uses that as starting point..(many examples for him to follow) then makes chit up as it happens to keep himself in track money.
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bill.. just checked out CGHI. It's now making claims to be considering buyout bids. If this doesn't happen, CGHI's ceo Mr.Paul could be charged with false filing and false news bulletins creating stock price manipulations. The pps has already jumped up and down. This is also a well known technique in the micro cap shenanigans.
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Are you taking something for those teeth that were pulled? Up pretty late there might need more drugs. I have to watch American Chopper at 2am, Only time I get to watch it so always up this late, lol.
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Topic: DrDiamond on the Death of Certs (Read 412 times) EyeSpy Diamondologist
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Joined: Aug 2004 Gender: Male Posts: 327 DrDiamond on the Death of Certs « Thread Started on Yesterday at 3:10pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would like to share with the board an email letter sent to me from DrDiamond (Dr. Frank Hudson) as a reply on my concern about the effort to eliminate stock certificates. He gave me permission to share this with the board. This "kill the cert" scheme will make it a crime to even possess such paper certs. This scheme is being rammed through without debate, analysis, or much forethought. I've not seen any coverage of this on the news, but in fairness I may have missed it since I don't watch a lot of TV news. However, I've been aware of the endless coverage of the runaway bride, Michael Jackson, Terry Schiavo, but no (if any) reporting of this certificate elimination. It's very suspicious to me that the very ones we think are the ones practicing and defending naked shorting are the ones wanting to rush the killing of share ownership proof (paper certs) into law. I called my governor's office last Thursday and the person there said she never heard of this and didn't know if the governor knew anything about it although my state has signed off on this cert kill. When explaining the cert kill effort she agreed with my concern and suggested I write the governor asking him to reconsider it. Please understand this is NOT necessarily a plea to do a CMKX cert pull. That's for management to do (if they could without being busted by our beloved SEC). This is just a wake-up call on an option, a choice, being taken away from all investors and companies.
Anyway, here is DrDiamond's email giving more detail on the issue of cert kill and naked shorting.
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Hi Wayne,
I thank you for the letter. I have been trying to get the word out about the "dematerialization" (the wiping out of paper certificates) push by Jill Considine (DTCC), Annette Nazareth (SEC), Securities Industry Assoc., and the NSCC. The desire to eliminate the "paper stock certificates" is part of the agenda to move to "STP (straight through processing)" which is same day settling (T+0). This is possible, but the cost is going to be the complete loss of any possibility of having a true, honest, market with integrity to protect the company and the shareholders. OMGEO handles the STP operations for the DTCC and unless the "Dematerialization" effort is completed, the DTCC cannot move truly to STP. Right now we have 6 billion dollars a day worth of trades that are "failing to deliver". Statistics say that only 18% of them can legitimately be covered by the NSCC's "borrowing pool" leaving the remaining 82% to take on, imho, "counterfeit status" (NSS). These incredible FTD's are coming under a T+3 settling formula and the NSCC, DTCC, and SEC is blaming "paper stock certificates" for the delays that are causing the failures. If the SEC is this blind or naive, then we need to rewrite the system and overhaul the SEC from the top to the bottom. The DTCC and the NSCC are throwing NSS's into the mix to get the transaction volumes plus the positions that they may never have to cover. The T+3 settling formula is swamping the market system with failures that can't be covered because the problem is the NSS that are being allowed in and the SEC believes it is because the shareholders are holding back paper certificates and the processing time is taking to long. Right now this is sticking out like a sore thumb, but when STP (T+0) is running full speed ahead then the daily FTD's will be the norm and NSS will be lost in the swarm. What is holding up the SEC, DTCC, NSCC, etc... from running "STP" at full speed? "Dematerialization" is incomplete. We still have 2 states that require companies to issue paper stock certificates to shareholders of record and as long as these state laws require companies trading to issue paper stock certificates "dematerialization" is on hold along with "STP". When "dematerialization" is accomplished, IMHO, the SEC will step in and BAN / OUTLAW/ MAKE IT ILLEGAL for anyone to own or hold paper stock certificates. All in the name of speeding up the settling process.
When this is accomplished and made law by the SEC then there is no way any company or Transfer Agent is going to be able to verify it's shareholders or track a possible "professional trading position" being held against the company because all of the info will be held by the NSCC, the DTCC, and the SEC. We have already seen the performance of these regulating organizations when they are approached for disseminating of information. Even when a company is trying to protect itself in an Administrative Hearing, the company cannot get a court order or FOIA to work for them. This is the "ISSUING COMPANY" that has reporting obligations and for whom these regulating agencies are supposed to be cooperating and they still are prohibited from seeing information on their company.
A bad situation is developing and I for one have been contacting anyone that will listen and I have suggested that all who will, need to write their Governor and have them recind their decision that withdrew the requirement of Companies to issue "paper stock certificates". Along with that our legislators have to be contacted and confronted to make a decision on this issue ASAP.
Thanks for the time.
Dr.D -- Frank
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From: W. *. <******@hotmail.com> To: jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com Cc: kevinw777@AmericaNeedsToKnow.com, frankhud@msn.com Subject: Threat to Certificates Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:55 PM
John [Martin],
I know you are aware of the push to eliminate ALL stock certificates. Please encourage Bill to include this in the discussion on counterfeiting of shares. It is obvious the push to eliminate certificates alltogether is tied to hiding electronically counterfeited of shares. This is unacceptable! It needs to be talked about more. When talking about NSS, the eliminating of stock certificates should be brought up in the same breath. They are the same.
Paper certificates = stock issued by a company. No certificates = electronic fluff and no proof of ownership. Eliminating of stock certificates = Naked Short Selling
There was an effort about 2 decades ago to eliminate paper money and even coin money! That dumb idea didn't go over well. Most people don't understand the impact of eliminating certs. They must be educated on this, including some of the CMKX investors who seem anti-cert!
Thanks, Wayne ****, *******, Texas
cc: Kevin West cc: Dr. Frank Hudson
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Legal..? are you cannadian...and what's wrong with my spelling..? The idea is working just fine...it's called credit cards and debit cards.....credit is what needs to be outlawed. You can thank bush for the new law that credit cards can raise your rates no matter what creditor you so carelessly became an hour late on your monthly payment....!! if your late on a gas card, your visa will go up 5% apr. Bush is also responsible the insurance business to use your credit score to rate your driving rates....this of course after bush lined his pockets with insurance lobbyist money. While i'm at it, whatever laws that allow multiple reverse splits and name changes should be struck from the books period.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wallace#1: [QB] Wan't mentn enny nams, but thos of ya who hav trowble spellink mite bee intrested in da folering fre doonlode syte:
spleezz protrunceeate pooperly Me dIcTinarY ain'ts so goot, dontz yul recrimber IZ got its atz de fIressAIL AND ITS A STILL A SMOLdereen.
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stockster...not really a claim...watched an interveiw on MoneyTV said the same thing live on TV. if you check the prs they had 2 buy out offers this one for .45 looked the best. the pr stated it wasn't a done deal, that they needed to look it over. the pps is .04 below the day the news came out & .05 above before it came out. as for pr scams, i've seen a number of them & am well aware of them. the r/s stock you mentioned is 1 of them. they had a divy pr for .0057 about 2 months ago. my point was the differance in the info given compared to cmkx
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Dustoff..It's the best here on mars. It's just like Nevada. No sec rules, no record keeping and never have to keep any books or list officers at all. Daytrading all night long too. I'll let you know when a condo opens up. S5
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Bill, may not be talking about the same stock, take your pick...most are doing this...but I did pick the stock up week after a divy, so it fooled me into thinking it would hold for a few weeks. Ya boy, you can't trust nothing no more.
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Dustoff, that shed has been moved to UC's back yard, lol. Because the new theory on PB is that UC uses his home as a office because its more secure. That a Office could be broken into and all the secrets that CMKX has and all the Diamonds would be stolen. So he keeps everything at home to safeguard it, One problem with that theory is, why is there so many missing documents then? Guess a another story for unsolved mysteries.
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Ric, I just come by the thread once in awhile these days for laughs, and to check up on Wallace and dwman..
Sometimes I'll come by to beg for stars when I get in a little to deep on the off topic thread. hehe
However, in all seriousness, the calibar of the arguments is still an excellant source of referance for many of us amateurs.
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LOL, sounds like Art. I quit arguing with him. You can't win when two people refuse to lose. He helps keep the off topic board going. But Purl Girl is making it interesting this last month, lol.
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I dug up a couple hundred Dow, Nasdaq and Amex stocks under 5 bucks...
Some of the volume on them is hilarious...I found one that just flat out doesn't trade...
When I find it again I am going to buy some just to trigger everyones vol. triggers! hehe
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: LOL, sounds like Art. I quit arguing with him. You can't win when two people refuse to lose. He helps keep the off topic board going. But Purl Girl is making it interesting this last month, lol.
Hey, you haven't lost anything until you sell, right?
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Here's some cheer for those who have it not as bad as this:
"A Taiwan stock trader mistakenly bought $251 million worth of shares with a misstroke of her computer keyboard, meaning her company is looking at a paper loss of more than $12 million and she is looking for a new job. "
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New title for next thread CMKX- The Death Throes
LOL
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You know, there was a PR today on MLON were a new president was put in place. Read further you will find Mario is being kept on in a advisory position. ROFLMAO
People are already falling for it. It is so funny how these scams can keep on scamming and people just don't get it. AMVS (SSWH) burnt its shareholders bad but there are sheep now pumping this again saying it will take off. That they changed and it won't happen again. PRRM shareholders have seen O/S go from 45 billion to 54 billion, Oh it won't raise again they promised to 65 billion to now 71 billion with the management promising each stage that it wouldn't go up again. Yet people still believe in its management. ICAN promised it would spinoff to a OTCBB and everyone would get divy's in the new company. After the pps climbed the o/s did also. Then all of a sudden everything was cancelled for vague reasons. The stock plummetts yet its a steal at .0001.
CMKX refuses to file, give shareholders even basic information yet the diluted to 778 billion shares behind there back. Yet they still believe. Even when the SEC tells them its a scam. But the evil SEC is a liar. They are going after us because they are afraid of this tiny little pinksheet that suppose to make us all millionaires.
CNES did the classic P&D and still there are loyal followers. Even though there portfolio looks like a sink drain that was full of water and the plug was pulled. HCCF has convinced investors that they have the next cure for Diabetes. They are a herbal company people, get real. Qbid even did a great number last year and no one even noticed. They sold a billion shares at a high pps then anounced a share buyback after it sank and bought the shares back at bargain basement. Yet it was passed off as a buyback. No they sold shares high and bought back low. Actually I like that better then sell high and don't buyback after your dilution killed the stock like most pennies. But still it was a lie and the TA is still gagged.
I think that people need to stop buying shares of companies that gag TA's. Send a message that we won't stand for it anymore. Everyone gets so upset over NSS yet they condon this action by the company to cover up dilution. Really as far as the investor is concerned it is the same thing and hurts our investment. Do you really think there would be 50K investors in CMKX if they knew how bad the dilution was getting. Well with the strong koolaid here maybe, lol.
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