quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: The Bashers are back something big is going to happen, hang tight and let the fools post.
GO QBID!!!!!! Bring ON The Green
I too must be a basher. I follow this thread everyday to stay informed, i quit posting because there is not much to say that is positive. I want to think that yes someday Q will be something. But right now it is not and has not been. I got in and out along time ago for the same reasons these guys are talking about. BROKEN PROMISES, bad PR's that do not hold water, PR's that are released before they really finalize things...I mean come on they really need to cleanup their act. Ah forget it I will just go back to silent mode becuase I know you guys do not want to hear the otherside of the story even when facts are presented........I will get back into this probally when it goes under new management.
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: The Bashers are back something big is going to happen, hang tight and let the fools post.
GO QBID!!!!!! Bring ON The Green
I too must be a basher. I follow this thread everyday to stay informed, i quit posting because there is not much to say that is positive. I want to think that yes someday Q will be something. But right now it is not and has not been. I got in and out along time ago for the same reasons these guys are talking about. BROKEN PROMISES, bad PR's that do not hold water, PR's that are released before they really finalize things...I mean come on they really need to cleanup their act. Ah forget it I will just go back to silent mode becuase I know you guys do not want to hear the otherside of the story even when facts are presented........I will get back into this probally when it goes under new management.
Much appreciated... My point as well is the handling of the PR's.
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George: If you are waiting for new management, I would expect that you will not be in for awhile or if there is new management you will be paying a hell of alot more than 0.0028 Good luck with your lurking and getting back in.
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quote:Originally posted by Ricardo: Now it seems we have (3) Could we call them Larry, Moe, and Curly Give it up guys, you are not going to run any of us off.
wow you really cant see both sides to an issue. I'm not trying to run off anybody. As a matter of fact I plan on buying more when RCN does launch. I've talked to them personally and know the situation. My whole point from the beginning is they are hurting the image of the company to investors by setting dates and not meeting them.
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Excuse Me, How do you know what is going on behind the scenes that NONE of us know about? Many things could happen to delay a project and force a change or delay. What world are you living in?
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Doc and Ricardo I agree with you about QBID, but it's a waste of time responding to recent negative comments about QBID.
If Ghosty and/or Stealx are serious about their "concerns", they should give their money to a professional money manager because they don't have what it takes to invest by themselves.
If one or both are paid "bashers", nothing we say or do will chase them away.
For the record, I'd rather listen to paid bashers than "scared" investors. The basher is just trying to earn a living and very likely understands the potential of QBID. But scared investors understand very little and lets the bashers convince them to panic-sell, which drives down the PPS for everyone.
If all current QBID shareowners refused to sell their shares, the price would go up. Economics 101 . . . the law of supply and demand.
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quote:Originally posted by Ricardo: Excuse Me, How do you know what is going on behind the scenes that NONE of us know about? Many things could happen to delay a project and force a change or delay. What world are you living in?
It's called calling up RCN and asking the right people. I talked to them regarding carrying Q in Chicago and they told me its gonna happen, no date has been set yet though. Go ahead and call or e-mail yourself.
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Don't bother to try and reason with these people. They have lost their minds in lala land. I've been out of this for awhile myself and I do plan on watching it carefully to jump aboard IF it takes off.
I, like a smart investor/trader, took my money out of qbid for now because it's a pig (right now). I'll come back when its the right time.
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I dont disagree that there have been some bad PRs released prematurely that probably shouldnt have been at all. Mistakes happen, I am not convinced that they are lies though. No offense to everyone all excited (and now upset) about the Oxygen thing but I am just not concerned about that piece of the puzzle. I have seen the accusations towards Frank as a liar etc but really... do you think he would make that crap up? Why? He has to know as well as we do that there is NOTHING that will move the pps anymore other than a carrier deal or financials reported that are in line with or better than the best guesses we have out there. So why in the world would Frank lie about BUYING COMMERCIAL AIRTIME. Thats just silly. I can see if it was a "Oxygen has signed a agreement with Q to air their shows nightly for free because they feel so strongly in its success!" headline that people might have the opportunity to accuse Frank of lying if it then didnt happen and no answers were given. But this is different. He paid for advertising... it hasnt happened yet, for whatever reason... big 88888888 deal!
We have seen the ads in other places and we have seen the progress made on other fronts. Thats all good news. We have seen confirmation from other companys in relation to deals made. Firestone, Gay Games, Gay Day, B&C full page ads, talent that has been hired, marketing team, law firm (I can guarrantee you that if we were not paying those attorneys to work on our behalf they would have issued a press release to that effect, how many hits do you think they got with odd out of the blue referring tags being Allstocks, Ihub, qtelevisiondotcom etc. when that PR came out? It got noticed I am sure.), PrideTV, and so on and so on.
I dont know what happened to the Oxygen deal today nor do I care one bit. The company is tracking correctly from everything I see. It is unfortunate that things have not always been as they seemed or panned out as we all would have liked in the past, and I firmly believe it is due to the past issues and the betrayal some people are feeling from those problems that this Oxygen deal has turned into such an explosive issue. Its really not a big deal... we are buying commercials. There is nothing significant about that or in my eyes even important. Its late night nontarget audience programming we are paying to have aired!! Hell, I wish they would save all that money and run 15-30 second spots in prime time or during the news hours and show off their programming on Public Access stations to get attention for a while or just increase bandwidth on the web and have the mini commercials direct them there.
Anyway, I picked up some more today at .0027, thanks for that at least.
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Bottomliner, Right On Amigo. I am going back to work part time beginning next week and I thought I would pull their chains a little. Won't be able to monitor the Board as closely beginning next week. My Ex-Assistant Laboratory Manager is one of those Negative Geeks about Q. I have made a promise to myself to buy him a $10.00 gift certificate to MacDonalds when the Q rolls. That's about all he deserves.
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quote:Originally posted by Bottomliner: Doc and Ricardo I agree with you about QBID, but it's a waste of time responding to recent negative comments about QBID.
If Ghosty and/or Stealx are serious about their "concerns", they should give their money to a professional money manager because they don't have what it takes to invest by themselves.
If one or both are paid "bashers", nothing we say or do will chase them away.
For the record, I'd rather listen to paid bashers than "scared" investors. The basher is just trying to earn a living and very likely understands the potential of QBID. But scared investors understand very little and lets the bashers convince them to panic-sell, which drives down the PPS for everyone.
If all current QBID shareowners refused to sell their shares, the price would go up. Economics 101 . . . the law of supply and demand.
Have you ever heard of Naked Shorting...we must consider that as well in the stock price..That is why it is imperitive that we get onto a real board....
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Thanks guys, the insanity today is umm well insane.
Q is going to make it, I dont have a single doubt in my head of that part. The question is what will they make it as. Even if its just as a content provider or partner for someone like LOGO it is still a big win for the investors.
I look at this as a guarranteed 4 bagger. If it doubles that and makes it to .02 then thats just more money for me. If he gets real truly substantial carrier deals or surprises us with an unbelievable OS report... then I will quit my day job and buy my hammock in the islands.
Frank is not a dummy and while he may have made some snafus in the past I think much of what we are being fed and what we are seeing happen is being orchestrated from on high. Its just a hunch, but I think there is more going on than we are being told and when this does all happen and it is all announced it will be fast and furious.
Unless Frank is flipping shares (lol maybe he is ghosty trying to get back in low) or releasing more stock and lying about it they have not made any money on this stock for some time. Yet, all of a sudden, starting in the last few months they are spending a ton. Where is it coming from?
My guess is more restricted shares have gone out as well as some hefty partnerships have been created.
If anyone can figure that out we will have all the answers we will ever need.
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quote:Originally posted by Bottomliner: Doc and Ricardo I agree with you about QBID, but it's a waste of time responding to recent negative comments about QBID.
If Ghosty and/or Stealx are serious about their "concerns", they should give their money to a professional money manager because they don't have what it takes to invest by themselves.
If one or both are paid "bashers", nothing we say or do will chase them away.
For the record, I'd rather listen to paid bashers than "scared" investors. The basher is just trying to earn a living and very likely understands the potential of QBID. But scared investors understand very little and lets the bashers convince them to panic-sell, which drives down the PPS for everyone.
If all current QBID shareowners refused to sell their shares, the price would go up. Economics 101 . . . the law of supply and demand.
Have you ever heard of Naked Shorting...we must consider that as well in the stock price..That is why it is imperitive that we get onto a real board....
According to this web site QBID is not on the list of stocks that have been shorted.
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quote:Originally posted by xj-ken: Stealx & George,
Don't bother to try and reason with these people. They have lost their minds in lala land. I've been out of this for awhile myself and I do plan on watching it carefully to jump aboard IF it takes off.
I, like a smart investor/trader, took my money out of qbid for now because it's a pig (right now). I'll come back when its the right time.
Bingo. I have a lot of shares of QBID, most of which are free shares from the last run. I can't understand how these people (many of whom have been here for well over a year) can sit here and call people bashers who post a list of things that have not happened that the company said would. And their only response is "that's the past, who cares". It is amazing.
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quote:Originally posted by Ricardo: ghosty: Thanks for the reply, but I think you are Full of s**t.
What? It's right in front of you. Last week he missed it, as did he this week. Investors are tired of things NOT happening, and these delays. UNTIL he can live up to his word, the PPS will continue to decline.
He needs to release financials, move onto a better exchange, and stay on top of his promises.
Taken from IHUB:
1) No 123 sation deal 2) No RCN expansion that was "iminent" according to your written words. 3) No Liz Taylor tribute 4) No Morning show, whatever the hell the are gonna call it. No sponsors ever announced for the show. 5) No other cities for the road show isnpite of only 1 of the original 2 months remaining, except for the one city that Frank happens to LIVE IN (how convenient) 6) No talk of the "programming deals" announced by Rene after NCTA. 7) No superbowl coverage.
I want it to go up just as much as you do, but there is a lot of work that needs to be done.
Good questions - the truth does hurt but if you have been in this one for a while, you get use to the screw ups and missed dates. That's how Frank runs the ship. If you don't like it, jump overboard.
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Today was disappointing,but on the other hand we continue to get everything in order to get onto an exchange. Does anyone know how long that would take?
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Ghosty Posted: Bingo. I have a lot of shares of QBID, most of which are free shares from the last run. I can't understand how these people (many of whom have been here for well over a year) can sit here and call people bashers who post a list of things that have not happened that the company said would. And their only response is "that's the past, who cares". It is amazing
Ghosty, I know that this comment was focused at me, yes I am still here and yes you are still the Village Idot. The difference between you and I is that I play stock for fun and a pastime, I have a very profitable profession but in your case you depend on the market each and every day to sustain your life. So I can afford to wait, but I believe its not the same for you.
and this is for you:
GO QBID!!!!!!!! BRING ON THE GREEN
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quote:Originally posted by Rich735: LMAO Doctoall,Watch it though. I usually don't even respond to the Village Idiots and my stars are down to 3 as are firefly's.
As long as I remain a star in the eyes of my true friends that is all that matters to me.
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