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WIll. I said give it time, and I never said everything will be okay. Give it time because that's all we can do now. Please, get real. Also, about the Vegas thing. A lady freaked out, what if it was a few guys, maybe drunk, maybe just crazy. Anyone could have kicked some ass and they wouild not have cared if they got in trouble, as long as they got 1 good punch. I know some people like that, they don't care of what happens to them as long as they can fight and throw a few. And I never said everything will be okay.
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Will If any one follows some one else when it comes to stocks then you my as well just hand your money to me! I could use a new car!
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"I was just wondering if the skeptics on this thread are going to apologize if you are wrong about this stock and it does turn out to be the play of the century and you talked people into selling? (costing them a lot of money?)"
I would take those remarks as being supportive of CMKX, and chastising skeptics for their opinions. The management of CMKX have never been forthright and honest in their PR's or reporting. Right now the cautious and skeptical look like their position are being proven correct. CMKX thrived on some double talking lead investors, and weak minded folks that took their inuendo, rumor, and touting as fact. The faithful invested big dollars here, and conned themselves, and others, into the "play of the century", "the squeeze of the century", and it appears to be the "screwing of the century"! If you don't want to be involved in this thread, then don't. If you want to come here and try to overcome the obvious that any right minded person can see, then be prepared for a difference in opinion to yours. If typing that subtle bash of skeptics is the best you can do, then run off, sobeit. I don't think anyone here shares your opinion, so don't allude to someone challenging your tripe as someone who likes to fight. GIT!
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I would gladly change my position if the facts told me to. With the state of affairs as they are I have no choice but to have a negative position. Can someone give me positives? I don't mean, "they own 1.4 million acres of mineral rights, or they have Roger Glenn", either. Those were the two major positives the faithful hung their hats on. Maybe I don't understand this stock? Maybe being halted and investigateded is a good thing? Maybe I find negatives where there aren't any? Maybe being halted and investigateded is a good thing? Maybe I kvetch too much? Maybe being halted and investigateded is a good thing? Maybe some other people need to apologize for costing others money talking them into buying this stock? Maybe they need to admit there was a chance of the skeptics being right 6 - 8 months ago?
quote:Originally posted by Upside: originally posted by Will: Heck, Ill change my position in a heartbeat if you really want to fight!
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Ok Will, positives you want, positives you get. Let's start with CMKX itself, its going through the roof and trading at.... oops, .0001/.0002. Ok then, UCAD! Now there's a mover that we own and is really going to rise and.... oops, that one's halted, delisted and under SEC investigation. Well then CIM, how about CIM?! We're getting DIVIDENDS there and that means.... oops, can't trade that one. Let me think here, AHA, GEMM, yes GEMM! More DIVIDENDS, tradeable upon receipt for instant wealth and.... oops, only worth 9 or 10 bucks per million CMKX shares. Darn it, you bashers just might be onto something here. Oh well, it matters not because I'm one of the faithful! Long and strong to the end!
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You guys are funny! I'm not into this stock! I just get a kick out of reading what you guys post! I was just asking a simple question! If you don't have no faith in this stock then why don't you sell and move on to some thing bigger and better?
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USCA/CMKX may have some unsettled issues, or may be on the brink of unseating shady MM's & Hedge fund companies. For those who still are beating the "this is a scam" drum I'd like to know if they honestly believe that a company out to scam 40,000 + stockholders would ingeniously incorporate a top flight SEC attorney into their scam plan? Do they truly think Roger Glenn is part of the scam? Can they actually think that Rendell and UC are so insidiously sly that they also scammed R.G? Do they really believe that by actually giving stockholders dividends(that may not be at top dollar value now, but unless the doubters have crystal balls, who knows what their value may be worth in a years time)they will be lulled into not knowing they have bought into a scam? We only know that USCA/CMKX have been temporarily halted. We don't know the other side of the story and IMO the long and faithful will be rewarded greatly, and the "Scam Troopers" will be left out in the cold, which is where they probably already are and that is why they're screaming "scam". Get real people. If you think this is a scam then it would have to be a scheme of monumental proportions and you don't usually involve prestigious attorneys if you're out to scam folks. I imagine you would actually try to avoid contact with the legal element.
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UC is planning to be around in 2005, wants to fund the funny car and 3 drivers (not just Jeff). Are the A/S going to be 2Trillion?
-------------------------------------------- In 2005, the precious gem conglomerate, CMKM Diamonds, headed by board chairman Urban Casavant, will back a new multi-class assault group with Funny Car drivers Jeff Arend and Tony Bartone, and Pro Stock Motorcycle rider Connie Cohen all competing at all 23 of the NHRA POWERade national events. -------------------------------------------- Here is the actual link.. http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?id=1919468
quote:I imagine you would actually try to avoid contact with the legal element.
Look at the other side of that coin. If you had dug youself a hole so deep that it could hold 800 billion shares, and 40,000+ investors might be coming after you with anything ranging from rocks and sticks to class action lawsuits, would you not seek out the best attorney your money could buy or would you sit back and let yourself get beaten to a pulp?
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There has been a hell of alot said about this stock, and IMO no one knows what is going to happen with this stock. We are going to have to wait and see. The pps is remaining the same and although its future is somewhat cloudy, we just don't know whats happening behind closed doors. There is plenty of speculation that it is dead amd also that its alive and well. When all is said and done, no one outside the Uraban ring knows for sure, so we continue to speculate. Thats the bottom line, speculation and speculation only.
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"USCA/CMKX may have some unsettled issues, or may be on the brink of unseating shady MM's & Hedge fund companies." "I'd like to know if they honestly believe that a company out to scam 40,000 + stockholders would ingeniously incorporate a top flight SEC attorney into their scam plan?"
So, they are still clinging to: "evil MM's" conspired against CMKX, along with the SEC and DTC. The UCAD dividend debunked the "squeeze of the century" theory. People hire top flight attorneys to clean up messes and keep their butts out of jail.
You maybe correct, but all evidence points to trouble, liars, cheats, thieves, con, at this time. The proof is the state affairs, three CMKX management barred from trading, UCAD halted/investigated. What proof do you have that makes you beat the faithful's drum. I would say reality is closer to this being a scam as opposed to the play of a life time. If you can, please tell me where I am wrong.
quote:If you don't have no faith in this stock then why don't you sell and move on to some thing bigger and better?
Why sell? With so much speculation out there there is a chance this could still rise whether it's a real company or not. If it goes down the drain, no big deal. If I sold I'd lose interest in it and miss out on all of this fun.
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You have my answer, yes, I would apologize, but I am willing to bet there will be no need to. I invested $350 and might be able to sell for $300 @ .0002, $150 for sure @ .0001. It is not a substantial amount of money, but it paid my way into the cheap seats where I can boo or cheer. Like I said, I just might like to argue. Owning some of this crap keeps me interested. Believe it or not, this thread has become great entrtainment for me. Sounds like you don't, or never have owned any CMKX, so who is sillier, me for owning it and not selling it, or you for wasting your and everyone's time? You didn't even pay for your ticket. You're the misfit, not I.
quote:Originally posted by Cortney: You guys are funny! I'm not into this stock! I just get a kick out of reading what you guys post! I was just asking a simple question! If you don't have no faith in this stock then why don't you sell and move on to some thing bigger and better?
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Why wasn't the short position exposed when the UCAD dividend was paid to out accounts with restricted shares? Explain that in clear detail to me. Break it down like I'm a six year old, so everyone can follow your logic and undertstand your explanation.
quote:Originally posted by bckibler: "You maybe correct, but all evidence points to trouble, liars, cheats, thieves, con, at this time."
You just described the MM's and Hedge fund operators and if you don't think this has been naked shorted then you must be living in lala land.
quote:You just described the MM's and Hedge fund operators and if you don't think this has been naked shorted then you must be living in lala land.
bckibler, I'll be the first to admit that I have no concrete proof that this is a scam. My feelings towards this stock are based upon it's history, Mr. Casavant's history, and it's current performance. Apparently though you have proof of the naked shorts as you don't seem to be living in "lala land". Please share it with us.
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Popular opinion is that the UCAD dividend ratio may not be accurate and that is ultimately why the halt was enforced. The short position HAS been exposed and D. Roger Glenn will be meeting with the SEC in California to discuss that very topic tomorrow.
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I also am off to watch the CMA's and will check back in later. Have enjoyed discussing our differing viewpoints and hold only successful investing hopes for you! I am long and strong in CMKX.
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That is your detailed, clear explanation? "popular opinion" , and "The short position HAS been exposed and D. Roger Glenn will be meeting with the SEC in California to discuss that very topic" Kind of short on facts, I'd say. I asked for detailed, clear explanation not some bullcrap explanation without any fcactual information to back it up. It is always the same with you people, you tell us we don't know crap, and spin us with some unfounded nonsense and double talk. You have no proof, and less credibility with me.
quote:Originally posted by bckibler: Popular opinion is that the UCAD dividend ratio may not be accurate and that is ultimately why the halt was enforced. The short position HAS been exposed and D. Roger Glenn will be meeting with the SEC in California to discuss that very topic tomorrow.
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Hold on a minute there Will my basher friend. He/she said the short position HAD been exposed so maybe a link to the information will be forthcoming. It is possible that the news broke and you, I, and everyone else here missed it.
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If the people at USCA/UCAD and those at CMKX (Casavant, DeSormeau, Melvin) do exactly what Dhonau did back in Ohio, they just might get a CEASE AND DESIST ORDER. In other words, a slap on the hand. That's what Dhonau did...he never responded and that is what happened to him in that case. Maybe that is what they hope to get by not responding. ********************************8
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"For those who still are beating the "this is a scam" drum I'd like to know if they honestly believe that a company out to scam 40,000 + stockholders would ingeniously incorporate a top flight SEC attorney into their scam plan?"
YES!!! And, "top flight SEC attorney" are the words of yourself and other cult members.
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"Do they truly think Roger Glenn is part of the scam?"
MAYBE - MAYBE NOT!!! One thing is certain and that is that Glenn is there to TRY to protect their butts! No other known reason.
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"Can they actually think that Rendell and UC are so insidiously sly that they also scammed R.G?"
It does not matter!!! RG is there for the money...PERIOD. That is why law firms exist. Seems to me that I have heard an expression that "All lawyers are whores". ********************************
YES, it does look like 40,000 plus people got sucked into this thing. Isn't that what a successful SCAM is meant to accomplish?
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You know UpMan when there was no solid proof of CMKX being in trouble, and speculation ran wild from the faithful, we couldn't get a word in edgewise. Now there is definate proof of negativity regarding CMKX and it's JV partners, and none of the faithful want to show their red embarrassed faces. There is no one for us to play with anymore. The faithful that use to post here insulted people here, telling them they didn't understand this stock. Now that this stock and the management has shown itself and made things a little more understandable they are nowhere to be found. I swore they told us if they were wrong the would admit it. I don't even want them to admit they're wrong. I want them to come explain this to me, and share their superior knowledge with me. I want them to make me understand this stock, like they said I didn't, (but really did), and I want them to tell me how being halted and investigated, and barred from trading is a positive, like they said I saw negatives where their isn't any, (and there obviously are). Maybe all this barring trading, halting, and investigated is positve? OH! wait a minute, they haven't said UNCLE yet, RG is meeting with SEC to discuss the reason of the halt, NSS, forgot that. It is just amazing the amount of proof these poor unfortunates need to see the truth. On the other hand, if I were stuck for $25,000+, I wouldn't want reality biting me in the ass, I too would deny the pain.
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quote:There is no one for us to play with anymore.
I know what you mean, a guy can only play with himself for so long before it's no fun anymore. Maybe Workaholic will surface again. He's always good for a laugh.
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Will, it's just plain faith. How could you dare argue with that? Remember, RG walks on water!!! Remember, UC is someone you can trust completely!!! Remember, Melvin is a good person!!!
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Oh, they're lurking, but just too ashamed of themselves to make an appearance. They were all loud mouthed a few months ago, being superior and dismissive of anyone who showed an iota of doubt. Now that things have broke the wrong way for them, they have dismissed themselves. They're somewhere else thumpimg their bibles, and praying for God to enlighten their heroes. These guys have been enlightened, and their "master plan" was to get foolish people to believe Sterling's, Doctor D's, and Zen's double talk, and get stuck for big $. That guy is right $350 isn't a good night on the town, but $25,000 is. Glad I'm a cheap date in this case.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: originally posted by Will: I know what you mean, a guy can only play with himself for so long before it's no fun anymore. Maybe Workaholic will surface again. He's always good for a laugh.
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Hey, Wallace. I had UC, and Melvin, aka Marvin, pegged long ago. UC never demanded clear, accurate, forthright PR's, and Marvin, his whore, would tell a lie when the truth sounds better. As far as Roger Glenn is concerned, you're 100% correct, all those .0002 sells of 279,000,000,000 shares can pay for a lot of "alledged" top flight attorneys. He's just there for the $$$$ !! These asses think UC is forthright and honest. These asses even started a fund for Melvin's sick wife, (doubt if the guy is married). These asses assign god status to an attorney they never heard of. He scribbled with crayon on the Ox blood act, or some such nonsense. Yet they had balls enough to dismiss and insult the cautious and skeptical.
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Will, it's just plain faith. How could you dare argue with that? Remember, RG walks on water!!! Remember, UC is someone you can trust completely!!! Remember, Melvin is a good person!!!
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i can't seriously believe ppl on other boards still think cmkx is naked shorted. by now UC has worked out a deal, the mm's paid him off & cmkx goes under covering, the casavant manuver. the one thing those faithful never did understand is that the whole idea of naked shorting is to drive the company into bankruptcy, period. covering is not an option. the company doesn't get money from share sales so it increases the o/s, ya think 779 billion shares is considered increasing the o/s???, at least in a few stock market circles??? i did think the faithful would one day drive the pps up enough to make a good profit but ucad getting halted ended that add to it cmkx's trouble in canada and i'd say its time to stick the fork in its cooked.
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bill, I always loved your sober posts. The faithful are drunk with hope in a hopeless situation. Where are they to make me understand like you have? Where is noah, he can come back according to Bob Frey. Where is that grasshopper guy, who dismissed all I had to say? Where is debi, who dismissed everyone for being negative, and then claimed the thread as hijacked, and went where like minded people would pet her feathers not ruffle them? Come back, y'all, explain this to me, make me understand how the situation as it is, is a good situation.
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: i can't seriously believe ppl on other boards still think cmkx is naked shorted. by now UC has worked out a deal, the mm's paid him off & cmkx goes under covering, the casavant manuver. the one thing those faithful never did understand is that the whole idea of naked shorting is to drive the company into bankruptcy, period. covering is not an option. the company doesn't get money from share sales so it increases the o/s, ya think 779 billion shares is considered increasing the o/s???, at least in a few stock market circles??? i did think the faithful would one day drive the pps up enough to make a good profit but ucad getting halted ended that add to it cmkx's trouble in canada and i'd say its time to stick the fork in its cooked.
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